Re: [WISPA] Trango 900 problems

[Christian Elliott Palecek]

This message was originally HTML formatted.  View in a HTML capable client to 
see the original version.\r\n\r\nI would assume it is ARQ?  check the su's to 
see if arq is on/off in telnet and/or on/off on the ap.

 Original Message 
From: "Vince West" vi...@shelbybb.com
Sent: 6/26/2013 4:30:28 PM
To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Trango 900 problems





What is the [RF Tx Retry at AP]  [RF Tx Retry Maxed Out at AP]?? The SU could 
be hitting the AP just fine, but if the AP isn't hitting the SU that would 
cause some issues.



For those customers that you are having issues with, try doing su linktest and 
seeing what their error rate is.



Also things to consider are noise floor and any potential interference. Are 
these customers all located in the same area






On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 1:05 PM, Terry White twh...@ueci.coop wrote:






we are using the legacy 900 mhz and having frequent disconnects on a few 
customers. the only thing i find on these customers is when looking in the ap i 
find the following line at the bottom of the su info command. all the subs that 
are having problems have a 0 at the maxed out tx retry. [RF Tx Retry at SU] 0 
[RF Tx Retry Maxed Out at SU] 0 





Terry White

 United Services

(800) 585 - 6454

twh...@ueci.coop





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Re: [WISPA] Trango 900 problems

[Christian Palecek]

ARQ?Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone  Original message From: Vince West  Date: 06/26/2013  5:29 PM  (GMT-07:00) To: WISPA General List  Subject: [WISPA]  Trango 900 problems  What is the [RF Tx Retry at AP]  [RF Tx Retry Maxed Out at AP]?? The SU could be hitting the AP just fine, but if the AP isn't hitting the SU that would cause some issues.
 For those customers that you are having issues with, try doing su linktest and seeing what their error rate is. Also things to consider are noise floor and any potential interference. Are these customers all located in the same area
  On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 1:05 PM, Terry White  wrote:

we are using the legacy 900 mhz and having frequent disconnects on a few customers. the only thing i find on these customers is when looking in the ap i find the following line at the bottom of the su info command. all the subs that are having problems have a 0 at the maxed out tx retry. [RF Tx Retry at SU] 0 [RF Tx Retry Maxed Out at SU] 0 
  Terry White United Services
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Re: [WISPA] Trango M900 ap

[Terry White]

Yes it is messy but I think I got it. thanks.

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Christian Palecek
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 11:35 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango M900 ap

Probably going to have to be onsite, tftp is a messy protocol

Eric Muehleisen mailto:ericm...@gmail.com>> wrote:
upgrade instructions, examples and procedures here.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1578608/Public/Trango_900.zip

On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 11:24 AM, Terry White 
mailto:twh...@ueci.coop>> wrote:
I had a trango M900 ap that got hit by lightning and I had to replace it. the 
one I replaced it with has an older firmware version and is randomly rebooting 
itself. After some research I found a newer firmware that is suppose to fix the 
problem but I can’t find step by step instructions on how to upload the 
firmware to the ap. My command line skills are not that great so any help would 
be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

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United Services
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Re: [WISPA] Trango M900 ap

[Christian Palecek]

Probably going to have to be onsite, tftp is a messy protocol

Eric Muehleisen  wrote:

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Re: [WISPA] Trango M900 ap

[Eric Muehleisen]

upgrade instructions, examples and procedures here.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1578608/Public/Trango_900.zip


On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 11:24 AM, Terry White  wrote:

> I had a trango M900 ap that got hit by lightning and I had to replace it.
> the one I replaced it with has an older firmware version and is randomly
> rebooting itself. After some research I found a newer firmware that is
> suppose to fix the problem but I can’t find step by step instructions on
> how to upload the firmware to the ap. My command line skills are not that
> great so any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks
>
> 
>
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>
> Terry White
>
> United Services
>
> (800) 585 – 6454
>
> 816*261*9484 cell 
>
> twh...@ueci.coop
>
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Re: [WISPA] Trango and 17Ghz

[Josh Luthman]

I can vouch for their 11 GHz, too.

Josh Luthman
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Direct: 937-552-2343
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On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 10:11 PM, Scott Carullo wrote:

> The SAF radios work very well  It would be good to try them out.  I'm
> glad we did.
>
> Scott Carullo
> Technical Operations
> 855-FLSPEED x102
>
>
>
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> *From*: "Daniel White" 
> *Sent*: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 5:22 PM
> *To*: "WISPA General List" ,
> paolo.difrance...@level7.it
>
> *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Trango and 17Ghz
>
>
>  SAF sells all of our platforms (including Freemile) in the 17GHz band
> for Europe.
>
>
>
> *Daniel White –* Sales Manager West and Southeast USA
>
> *SAF Tehnika JSC*
>
> * *
>
> Cell:  +1 303-746-3590
>
> Skype: danieldwhite
>
> daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com
>
>
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 6, 2013 4:24 PM
> *To:* paolo.difrance...@level7.it; WISPA General List
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Trango and 17Ghz
>
>
>
> Trango is direct.  You'll need to call them if you want an answer.
>
>
>
> SAF more than likely can do it, but I'm only 95% sure.  You'll need to
> contact them if it's not a commonly used band in Europe.  SAF is in Latvia,
> which would presumably make it easier on you if you're in Europe.
>
>
>  Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 4:22 PM, Paolo Di Francesco <
> paolo.difrance...@level7.it> wrote:
>
> Hi all
>
> does trango works on 17ghz ? if so which model?
>
> Any european distributor in the list?
>
> Thank you
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] Trango and 17Ghz

[Scott Carullo]

The SAF radios work very well  It would be good to try them out.  I'm glad 
we did.

Scott Carullo
Technical Operations
855-FLSPEED x102


 From: "Daniel White" 
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 5:22 PM
To: "WISPA General List" , paolo.difrance...@level7.it
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango and 17Ghz

  SAF sells all of our platforms (including Freemile) in the 17GHz band for 
Europe.   Daniel White - Sales Manager West and Southeast USA SAF Tehnika JSC   
Cell:  +1 303-746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite 
daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com   From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2013 4:24 PM
To: paolo.difrance...@level7.it; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango and 17Ghz  Trango is direct.  You'll need to 
call them if you want an answer.  SAF more than likely can do it, but I'm 
only 95% sure.  You'll need to contact them if it's not a commonly used band in 
Europe.  SAF is in Latvia, which would presumably make it easier on you if 
you're in Europe.   Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 4:22 PM, Paolo Di Francesco 
 wrote: Hi all

does trango works on 17ghz ? if so which model?

Any european distributor in the list?

Thank you

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Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale

Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo

C.F. e P.IVA  05940050825
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Re: [WISPA] Trango and 17Ghz

[Daniel White]

SAF sells all of our platforms (including Freemile) in the 17GHz band for
Europe.

 

Daniel White - Sales Manager West and Southeast USA

SAF Tehnika JSC

 

Cell:  +1 303-746-3590

Skype: danieldwhite

 <mailto:daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com> daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2013 4:24 PM
To: paolo.difrance...@level7.it; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango and 17Ghz

 

Trango is direct.  You'll need to call them if you want an answer.

 

SAF more than likely can do it, but I'm only 95% sure.  You'll need to
contact them if it's not a commonly used band in Europe.  SAF is in Latvia,
which would presumably make it easier on you if you're in Europe.




Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 4:22 PM, Paolo Di Francesco
 wrote:

Hi all

does trango works on 17ghz ? if so which model?

Any european distributor in the list?

Thank you


--


Ing. Paolo Di Francesco

Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale

Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo

C.F. e P.IVA  05940050825
Fax : +39-091-8772072  
assistenza: (+39) 091-8776432  
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Re: [WISPA] Trango and 17Ghz

[Mathew Howard]

SAF does do 17ghz with their Freemile line and I think they also do in the CFIP 
line. I don't know if Trango makes anything though.


From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [wireless-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Josh 
Luthman [j...@imaginenetworksllc.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 3:24 PM
To: paolo.difrance...@level7.it; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango and 17Ghz

Trango is direct.  You'll need to call them if you want an answer.

SAF more than likely can do it, but I'm only 95% sure.  You'll need to contact 
them if it's not a commonly used band in Europe.  SAF is in Latvia, which would 
presumably make it easier on you if you're in Europe.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 4:22 PM, Paolo Di Francesco 
mailto:paolo.difrance...@level7.it>> wrote:
Hi all

does trango works on 17ghz ? if so which model?

Any european distributor in the list?

Thank you


--


Ing. Paolo Di Francesco

Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale

Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo

C.F. e P.IVA  05940050825
Fax : +39-091-8772072
assistenza: (+39) 091-8776432
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Re: [WISPA] Trango and 17Ghz

[Josh Luthman]

Trango is direct.  You'll need to call them if you want an answer.

SAF more than likely can do it, but I'm only 95% sure.  You'll need to
contact them if it's not a commonly used band in Europe.  SAF is in Latvia,
which would presumably make it easier on you if you're in Europe.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 4:22 PM, Paolo Di Francesco <
paolo.difrance...@level7.it> wrote:

> Hi all
>
> does trango works on 17ghz ? if so which model?
>
> Any european distributor in the list?
>
> Thank you
>
>
> --
>
>
> Ing. Paolo Di Francesco
>
> Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale
>
> Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo
>
> C.F. e P.IVA  05940050825
> Fax : +39-091-8772072
> assistenza: (+39) 091-8776432
> web: http://www.level7.it
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Re: [WISPA] Trango

[Jesse Preiner]

Only way I know of is to use a Trango console cable and use the
"resetpassword" command through hyperterminal. 

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Behalf Of tcl
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 7:01 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] Trango

Any old timers here remember how to reset a trango 58 series ap?

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Re: [WISPA] Trango

[joe.miller]

If memory serves me there is a button under the rubber boot on the  
bottom on the AP.  
http://www.barco.cz/en/data/products/download/Access5830_UserManual_F.pdf. Or  
if you want to find the IP address of the unit, connect the radio to a  
computer that is running wireshark, Power cycle the unit. When the  
unit powers up, it will displat the IP address of the radio.

Good luck,

Joe Miller
www.dslbyair.com
228-831-8881

Quoting "Tony C. Loosle" :

> 5830AP
>
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>> Chuck Hogg 
>> Friday, August 31, 2012 9:45 AM
>> What model radio is this?
>>
>> Regards,
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Re: [WISPA] Trango

[Scott Carullo]

If it helps anyone, I have 50gal cans stacked with trango gear in my storage 
area.  I know the passwords on all mine :)
2.4 and 5Ghz
If anyone needs some more and can't get those to work we can probably work 
something out...

Scott Carullo
Technical Operations
855-FLSPEED x102


 From: "Victoria Proffer" 
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 1:42 PM
To: "WISPA General List" 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango

  No reset buttons on the 5800/5830 series . you can trust me on this one .  =( 
You have to have that cable or you are SOL. RJ11 > serial port.   Victoria 
Proffer President/CEO  314-974-5600 St. Louis Broadband, LLC www. 
StLouisBroadband.comFrom: wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 12:20 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] TrangoThat's only on the FOX radios according to that 
manual.  I don't see the button on my bigger units, 5800 and 5830.Josh 
Luthman
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  On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Chuck Hogg  wrote: On 
the bottom there is a reset button under the rubber plug.   Pressing the 
reset button will reset the radio's IP address to factory default of 
192.168.100.100, and password trango.I confirmed this with the manual:  
 http://www.barco.cz/en/data/products/download/Access5830_UserManual_F.pdf 
Regards,
Chuck
  On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Tony C. Loosle  wrote:  
5830AP

   Chuck Hogg   Friday, August 31, 2012 9:45 AM  What model radio is 
this?   Regards,
Chuck

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ip it was configured with was lost.

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Re: [WISPA] Trango

[Tony C. Loosle]

Thank you for that!  I had
 just done exactly that!

Tony




   	   
   	Michael Hughes  
  Friday, August 
31, 2012 2:30 PM
  
  

  
Hook up a serial cable, 9600 bits per
  second, no parity, 1 stop bit and no flow control.
  
  hit enter immediately on start-up to stop the boot.
  
  at the monitor prompt enter "resetpassword" (sets password to
  "trango")
  
  Enter "main" to boot.
  
  log in and set IP  (ipconfig  address  netmask  gateway)
  
  save ss
  
  reboot and proceed to configure with the web browser.
  
  Michael C. HughesCEO Antelecom, Inc.
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31, 2012 2:02 PM
  

Yeah, no reset button on 
the 5830, but is on the 900ap.

With a serial and a telnet connection I think anything can be reset up. 
 Thanks for the help

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with removable rubber doors...Josh LuthmanOffice:
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31, 2012 11:34 AM
  Now I remember that same cover 
is covered by a little steel plate on the 5GHz...thus Victoria is 
correct in that you need a serial cable to connect to it.  Per the 
manual it also states that and how to wire one if you don't have it.
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31, 2012 11:32 AM
  Ok, well then I don't know.  I 
thought they were the same unit as the 900's with different frequency. 
 The 900's have that port covered with a rubber grommet that has a reset
 button on the board.  The grommet also covers the LEDs.  I looked at 
the manual of the 5830AP and that looked to be the same unit.
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Re: [WISPA] Trango

[Michael Hughes]

  
  
Hook up a serial cable, 9600 bits per
  second, no parity, 1 stop bit and no flow control.
  
  hit enter immediately on start-up to stop the boot.
  
  at the monitor prompt enter "resetpassword" (sets password to
  "trango")
  
  Enter "main" to boot.
  
  log in and set IP  (ipconfig  address  netmask  gateway)
  
  save ss
  
  reboot and proceed to configure with the web browser.
  
  Michael C. Hughes
CEO Antelecom, Inc.
  On 8/31/2012 1:02 PM, Tony C. Loosle wrote:


  
  Yeah, no reset button on the 5830, but is on the 900ap.
  
  With a serial and a telnet connection I think anything can be
  reset up.  Thanks for the help
  
  t
  
  

  


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  Friday,
  August 31, 2012 11:46 AM
  

They actually
  starting coming with removable rubber doors...
  
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  Friday,
  August 31, 2012 11:34 AM
  

Now I remember that
  same cover is covered by a little steel plate on the
  5GHz...thus Victoria is correct in that you need a serial
  cable to connect to it.  Per the manual it also states that
  and how to wire one if you don't have it.
  

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  Friday,
  August 31, 2012 11:32 AM
  

Ok, well then I don't
  know.  I thought they were the same unit as the 900's with
  different frequency.  The 900's have that port covered with a
  rubber grommet that has a reset button on the board.  The
  grommet also covers the LEDs.  I looked at the manual of the
  5830AP and that looked to be the same unit.
  

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  Friday,
  August 31, 2012 11:20 AM
  

That's only on the
  FOX radios according to that manual.
  
  
  I don't see the button on my bigger units, 5800 and 5830.
  
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  Friday,
  August 31, 2012 11:17 AM
  

On the bottom there
  is a reset button under the rubber plug.
  
  
  
Pressing the reset button will reset the radio's IP
  address to factory default of 192.168.100.100, and
  password trango.
  
  

  
  I confirmed this with the manual:
  http://www.barco.cz/en/data/products/download/Access5830_UserManual_F.pdf
  
  
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Re: [WISPA] Trango

[Tony C. Loosle]

Yeah, no reset button on 
the 5830, but is on the 900ap.

With a serial and a telnet connection I think anything can be reset up. 
 Thanks for the help

t


   	   
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  Friday, August 
31, 2012 11:46 AM
  They actually starting coming 
with removable rubber doors...Josh LuthmanOffice:
 937-552-2340Direct: 937-552-23431100 Wayne StSuite 1337Troy,
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  Now I remember that same cover 
is covered by a little steel plate on the 5GHz...thus Victoria is 
correct in that you need a serial cable to connect to it.  Per the 
manual it also states that and how to wire one if you don't have it.
Regards,Chuck


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31, 2012 11:32 AM
  Ok, well then I don't know.  I 
thought they were the same unit as the 900's with different frequency. 
 The 900's have that port covered with a rubber grommet that has a reset
 button on the board.  The grommet also covers the LEDs.  I looked at 
the manual of the 5830AP and that looked to be the same unit.
Regards,Chuck


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  That's only on the FOX radios 
according to that manual.I don't see the button on 
my bigger units, 5800 and 5830.Josh LuthmanOffice:
 937-552-2340Direct: 937-552-2343

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31, 2012 11:17 AM
  On the bottom there is a reset 
button under the rubber plug.Pressing the 
reset button will reset the radio's IP address to factory default of 
192.168.100.100, and password trango.
I confirmed this with the manual:http://www.barco.cz/en/data/products/download/Access5830_UserManual_F.pdf
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Re: [WISPA] Trango

[Josh Luthman]

They actually starting coming with removable rubber doors...

Josh Luthman
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Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Chuck Hogg  wrote:

> Now I remember that same cover is covered by a little steel plate on the
> 5GHz...thus Victoria is correct in that you need a serial cable to connect
> to it.  Per the manual it also states that and how to wire one if you don't
> have it.
>
> Regards,
> Chuck
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Chuck Hogg  wrote:
>
>> Ok, well then I don't know.  I thought they were the same unit as the
>> 900's with different frequency.  The 900's have that port covered with a
>> rubber grommet that has a reset button on the board.  The grommet also
>> covers the LEDs.  I looked at the manual of the 5830AP and that looked to
>> be the same unit.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Chuck
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Josh Luthman <
>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>
>>> That's only on the FOX radios according to that manual.
>>>
>>> I don't see the button on my bigger units, 5800 and 5830.
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Chuck Hogg  wrote:
>>>
 On the bottom there is a reset button under the rubber plug.

 Pressing the reset button will reset the radio's IP address to factory
 default of 192.168.100.100, and password trango.

 I confirmed this with the manual:

 http://www.barco.cz/en/data/products/download/Access5830_UserManual_F.pdf

 Regards,
 Chuck



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> 5830AP
>
>
>
>   Chuck Hogg 
>  Friday, August 31, 2012 9:45 AM
> What model radio is this?
>
> Regards,
> Chuck
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Re: [WISPA] Trango

[Victoria Proffer]

No reset buttons on the 5800/5830 series . you can trust me on this one .
=(

You have to have that cable or you are SOL.

RJ11 > serial port.

 

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President/CEO 

314-974-5600

St. Louis Broadband, LLC

 <http://www.stlbroadband.com/> www. StLouisBroadband.com

 

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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango

 

That's only on the FOX radios according to that manual.

 

I don't see the button on my bigger units, 5800 and 5830.


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Direct: 937-552-2343
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On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Chuck Hogg  wrote:

On the bottom there is a reset button under the rubber plug.

 

Pressing the reset button will reset the radio's IP address to factory
default of 192.168.100.100, and password trango.

 

I confirmed this with the manual:

http://www.barco.cz/en/data/products/download/Access5830_UserManual_F.pdf 


Regards,
Chuck





On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Tony C. Loosle  wrote:

5830AP








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Friday, August 31, 2012 9:45 AM

What model radio is this?


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I need to factory reset the radio as the ip it was configured with was lost.

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Re: [WISPA] Trango

[Chuck Hogg]

Now I remember that same cover is covered by a little steel plate on the
5GHz...thus Victoria is correct in that you need a serial cable to connect
to it.  Per the manual it also states that and how to wire one if you don't
have it.

Regards,
Chuck


On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Chuck Hogg  wrote:

> Ok, well then I don't know.  I thought they were the same unit as the
> 900's with different frequency.  The 900's have that port covered with a
> rubber grommet that has a reset button on the board.  The grommet also
> covers the LEDs.  I looked at the manual of the 5830AP and that looked to
> be the same unit.
>
> Regards,
> Chuck
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Josh Luthman  > wrote:
>
>> That's only on the FOX radios according to that manual.
>>
>> I don't see the button on my bigger units, 5800 and 5830.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Chuck Hogg  wrote:
>>
>>> On the bottom there is a reset button under the rubber plug.
>>>
>>> Pressing the reset button will reset the radio's IP address to factory
>>> default of 192.168.100.100, and password trango.
>>>
>>> I confirmed this with the manual:
>>> http://www.barco.cz/en/data/products/download/Access5830_UserManual_F.pdf
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Chuck
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Tony C. Loosle wrote:
>>>
 5830AP



   Chuck Hogg 
  Friday, August 31, 2012 9:45 AM
 What model radio is this?

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Re: [WISPA] Trango

[Chuck Hogg]

Ok, well then I don't know.  I thought they were the same unit as the 900's
with different frequency.  The 900's have that port covered with a rubber
grommet that has a reset button on the board.  The grommet also covers the
LEDs.  I looked at the manual of the 5830AP and that looked to be the same
unit.

Regards,
Chuck


On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Josh Luthman
wrote:

> That's only on the FOX radios according to that manual.
>
> I don't see the button on my bigger units, 5800 and 5830.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Chuck Hogg  wrote:
>
>> On the bottom there is a reset button under the rubber plug.
>>
>> Pressing the reset button will reset the radio's IP address to factory
>> default of 192.168.100.100, and password trango.
>>
>> I confirmed this with the manual:
>> http://www.barco.cz/en/data/products/download/Access5830_UserManual_F.pdf
>>
>> Regards,
>> Chuck
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Tony C. Loosle wrote:
>>
>>> 5830AP
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   Chuck Hogg 
>>>  Friday, August 31, 2012 9:45 AM
>>> What model radio is this?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Chuck
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>>> lost.
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Re: [WISPA] Trango

[Josh Luthman]

That's only on the FOX radios according to that manual.

I don't see the button on my bigger units, 5800 and 5830.

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Direct: 937-552-2343
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On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Chuck Hogg  wrote:

> On the bottom there is a reset button under the rubber plug.
>
> Pressing the reset button will reset the radio's IP address to factory
> default of 192.168.100.100, and password trango.
>
> I confirmed this with the manual:
> http://www.barco.cz/en/data/products/download/Access5830_UserManual_F.pdf
>
> Regards,
> Chuck
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Tony C. Loosle wrote:
>
>> 5830AP
>>
>>
>>
>>   Chuck Hogg 
>>  Friday, August 31, 2012 9:45 AM
>> What model radio is this?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Chuck
>>
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>> lost.
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Re: [WISPA] Trango

[Chuck Hogg]

On the bottom there is a reset button under the rubber plug.

Pressing the reset button will reset the radio's IP address to factory
default of 192.168.100.100, and password trango.

I confirmed this with the manual:
http://www.barco.cz/en/data/products/download/Access5830_UserManual_F.pdf

Regards,
Chuck


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> 5830AP
>
>
>
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>  Friday, August 31, 2012 9:45 AM
> What model radio is this?
>
> Regards,
> Chuck
>
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> lost.
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Re: [WISPA] Trango

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Re: [WISPA] Trango

[Josh Luthman]

Grab a new one, configure it, swap it.  Then you can bust out the rj11
crimpers and make yourself a com cable.

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Re: [WISPA] Trango

[Chuck Hogg]

What model radio is this?

Regards,
Chuck


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> I need to factory reset the radio as the ip it was configured with was
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I need to factory reset 
the radio as the ip it was configured with was lost.

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Re: [WISPA] Trango

[Josh Luthman]

No, just means you know your stuff.

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Re: [WISPA] Trango

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Does this mean I am an old timer ... =(

~V~


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You have to have the serial cable ...

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Re: [WISPA] Trango

[Victoria Proffer]

You have to have the serial cable ...

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Re: [WISPA] Trango

[Chuck Hogg]

Reset button?

Regards,
Chuck


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Re: [WISPA] Trango

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Can you log in, or is that the problem?

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Re: [WISPA] Trango

[Josh Luthman]

You mean "reboot"?

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Re: [WISPA] Trango Support

[Scott Chester]

Mark,

I see you also submitted a ticket, which I've just responded to.

Hopefully it will resolve your issue and we can address it further there.

-- 
Scott Chester

Sent from my iPhone.

On Jan 14, 2012, at 3:37 PM, Mark Theis  wrote:

Trango Support I am not sure if this is the correct place to post this
messages, but..  Is anyone available to do some paid support on a Trango
radio?  Trango corp said that they can’t help us until Monday. I would
prefer to not be down the entire weekend though. It pretty much crashed
when we did a firmware update and rebooted it. We can access it via console
cable though.

Thanks!


Mark Theis
Chief Technology Officer
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Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex V1.3.0 Stable Yet?

[David E. Smith]

On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 19:31, Scott Carullo wrote:

> What issues?  I've been running it on two links for some time now and have
> noticed anything yet.  Maybe I'm not looking hard enough?
>

I don't know what issues specifically Trango was referring to, but while the
1.3.0 firmware has been on their Web site for a couple months, it was only
"officially" released about two weeks ago (and one of the files was quietly
updated in the interim). Trango Support told me not to use it, even though
it was on their FTP site for quite a while (labeled "pending release"), due
to some unspecified concerns they had.

I did install it on two Apex links (one 11Ghz, one 23GHz) as soon as they
said it was a final release, and I'm happy with it. While it introduced a
new cosmetic bug (the Web interface no longer shows the correct Tx/Rx
profiles in use, or the Ethernet interfaces' status if you use RPS), that's
a minor detail to me. The CLI has correct information for both of those, and
the fact that RPS actually WORKS properly (after two years of not working
reliably) brings me so much joy.

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Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex V1.3.0 Stable Yet?

[Scott Carullo]

What issues?  I've been running it on two links for some time now and have 
noticed anything yet.  Maybe I'm not looking hard enough?

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I know some people noticed some issues with the Trango Apex V1.3.0
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Re: [WISPA] Trango, UBNT & Alvarion equipment for sale

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Interested in the Trango units -still have them?
How do I contact you offl list?

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Re: [WISPA] Trango, UBNT & Alvarion equipment for sale

[Cameron Kilton]

sorry earlier, didn't realize it was going to the whole list. Apologies


Thanks,
Cameron

On 9/3/2010 1:20 PM, Jim Wilson wrote:
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>> I have:
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>> (9) Trango Fox 5580 Units for sale $60 Each or $480 if you buy all of them.
>>
>> (2) Trango 5800 units $75 each
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>> Contact me and I'll see what I have for a real good price.
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Re: [WISPA] Trango, UBNT & Alvarion equipment for sale

[Cameron Kilton]

Yes, I may have some Trango 5580 and possible from 5800 units. What else 
are you looking for?




Thanks,
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>>
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>>
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>>
>> Contact me and I'll see what I have for a real good price.
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Trango, UBNT & Alvarion equipment for sale

[Jim Wilson]

Cameron Kilton  midcoast.com> writes:

> 
> I have:
> 
> (9) Trango Fox 5580 Units for sale $60 Each or $480 if you buy all of them.
> 
> (2) Trango 5800 units $75 each
> 

> 
> Contact me and I'll see what I have for a real good price.
> 

Do you still have any 5580 or other trango gear?
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Re: [WISPA] Trango APEX v1.3.0 live

[Scott Carullo]

Well my bug has been sleeping so far :)  Have not noticed anything wrong, 
but I am very glad to hear they may have finally fixed the RPS re-enable 
problem that was a nice feature we had hoped to use to reduce cut-over time 
upon link failure.  Thanks for the info.

One quick question since this is the right crowd...   Does the FCC license 
for 11Ghz gear need to be posted somewhere at the tower site?  I'm guessing 
it does but I'm not positive and I haven't received them in the mail yet.

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Just wanted to let you guys know, Trango released v1.3.0 today -- I was
talking to them on the phone and they mentioned it would go live this
week. It's on their FTP now, no release notes unfortunately.


You may want to be careful with this. I've been waiting for 1.3.0 to fix a 
pretty big showstopper bug (where RPS will disable the radio's data ports 
but not re-enable them later), and while there's something on their FTP 
dropbox, a Trango tech just told me that 1.3.0 hasn't yet officially been 
released because of a last-minute bug.


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Re: [WISPA] Trango APEX v1.3.0 live

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but not re-enable them later), and while there's something on their FTP
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I'll send you the FTP login offlist, I'm not sure if Trango would like 
me to post that on the list or not -- but yeah I just installed this 
on a bench/un-used pair and no problems. Should be putting this unit 
into production this week.


Thanks.


On 8/23/2010 16:40, Nick Olsen wrote:
Do you have a link to the FTP? We have a few apex's that could use 
some love.


I'll wait for the release notes though, before I upgrade.

Nick Olsen
Network Operations
(321) 205-1100 x106




*From*: "Steven McGehee" 
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*Subject*: [WISPA] Trango APEX v1.3.0 live

Just wanted to let you guys know, Trango released v1.3.0 today -- I was
talking to them on the phone and they mentioned it would go live this
week. It's on their FTP now, no release notes unfortunately.





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Re: [WISPA] Trango APEX v1.3.0 live

[Scott Carullo]

Hey Steven,

I upgraded one of our apex links this morning and its been fine all day in 
the wild pushing about 50Mb.

I have a few questions to compare with you though, I emailed Trango tech 
support but I never heard anything back.  Maybe I have the wrong email, its 
like they never get them??

First, I could not upgrade the sys_rfm_v130.F915283E file.  The bootimage 
upgrade 4 command returned FAILED.  Re-downloaded the file from the ftp 
site and re-tftp'd it to the radio tried again and still no love - on 
either radio.  I proceeded without it and its been working fine.  I'd like 
to know if you had the same problem and if you know what that system file 
is for.  It looks like a big text file with OIDs or something.

Second, after the upgrade, in the web interface under statistics I think, 
it shows the modulation at the top as QPSK for both sides but it isn't - a 
speed command or status modem command from the CLI returns 256QAM both 
sides at 250Mb.  The previous v123 firmware worked properly I'm pretty sure 
I would have notice that before.

Lastly, since you were discussing the new firmware on the phone with them 
do you happen to know any of the changes in this newer version?

Thanks

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Re: [WISPA] Trango APEX v1.3.0 live

[Steven McGehee]

I'll send you the FTP login offlist, I'm not sure if Trango would like 
me to post that on the list or not -- but yeah I just installed this on 
a bench/un-used pair and no problems. Should be putting this unit into 
production this week.


Thanks.


On 8/23/2010 16:40, Nick Olsen wrote:
Do you have a link to the FTP? We have a few apex's that could use 
some love.


I'll wait for the release notes though, before I upgrade.

Nick Olsen
Network Operations
(321) 205-1100 x106




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Just wanted to let you guys know, Trango released v1.3.0 today -- I was
talking to them on the phone and they mentioned it would go live this
week. It's on their FTP now, no release notes unfortunately.





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Re: [WISPA] Trango APEX v1.3.0 live

[Scott Carullo]

I downloaded the files but I'm not going first :)

Someone let me know if you have a successful upgrade and the link doesn't 
get blown up.  I've bled so much lately (non-related) that I can't 
self-induce this one.  Any successful or non-successful feedback on this 
upgrade would be very appreciated.  Thanks.

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Re: [WISPA] Trango APEX v1.3.0 live

[Nick Olsen]

Do you have a link to the FTP? We have a few apex's that could use some 
love.

I'll wait for the release notes though, before I upgrade.

Nick Olsen
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Subject: [WISPA] Trango APEX v1.3.0 live

Just wanted to let you guys know, Trango released v1.3.0 today -- I was 
talking to them on the phone and they mentioned it would go live this 
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Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex fiber module

[David E. Smith]

On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 21:30, Scott Carullo wrote:

> Those of you familiar with which ones work do you know which model from
> this website will work best?
>
> http://www.oemoptic.com/
>
>
The whole point of SFPs is that (in theory, anyway) they're pretty much
interchangeable, so long as you have the same optics at both ends and
compatible fiber between. For mine, we've got the official Trango ones in a
couple radios, a couple horribly-overpriced Dell ones, and a bunch of $50
ones from Newegg, and they all inter-operate perfectly.

If you're using multi-mode fiber (and for a tower, you probably are),
something like this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833516014
will work just fine.

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Re: [WISPA] Trango Fox 5580 and 5300 SUs For Sale

[Paul Gerstenberger]

Curious, what PtMP platform are you using to replace Trango?

-Paul

On Jul 15, 2010, at 12:52 PM, Steven McGehee wrote:

> Apologies if this is the wrong outlet to send this to, but would anyone be 
> interested in purchasing used Trango Fox M5580 (5.8Ghz) and/or Trango 5300 
> (5.3Ghz) subscriber units (SUs)? I've got a ton of these to sell. Please 
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Re: [WISPA] Trango GigaPlus Experience?

[can...@believewireless.net]

If it's anything like the original Giga, I'd pass.



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Re: [WISPA] Trango Fox 5580 and 5300 SUs For Sale

[tfadgen]

Ebay is the place! I am a buyer and seller of used Wisp equipment.


On Thursday 15/07/2010 at 1:03 pm, Steven McGehee wrote:


Apologies if this is the wrong outlet to send this to, but would 
anyone be interested in purchasing used Trango Fox M5580 (5.8Ghz) 
and/or Trango 5300 (5.3Ghz) subscriber units (SUs)? I've got a ton of 
these to sell. Please reply off-list.


Thanks!





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Re: [WISPA] Trango APEX data / mgmt cable connection question

[Tom DeReggi]

Trango Apexes and Dragonwaves use the same type cable Entry fitting.
They are the highest quality fitting on the market in my opinion for THIN 
outdoor Cat5.
Shireen outdoor shielded directburiel cable fits through just fine, and I 
recommend the use of it, for Trango Apexes.

HOWEVER, IF you use THICK outdoor direct buriel cable such as Superior 
Essex, Beldon, or Mohawk (.4- .45"), it will NOT fit through, and makes a 
very poor design.
It is disappointing that there is not an optional Passthru fitting for 
thicker cable.  With Superior Essex what we have to do is, we strip off the 
outer PVC layer and then the inner layer will fit through the fitting. 
Obviously this leave a water liabilty to the inside of the outer layer. 
So... That means water proofing it with Mastic and Electrical tape, just 
like any other COAX connector needing sealed. This is not pretty. However, 
the Superior Essex's inner rubbery shield does offer some water proofing, so 
its not that bad.

The connectors are called the "Conec" system.  They can be bought from Conec 
or Digikey. What we really need to  do is convince Conec to amke a revised 
version to accept the larger diameter Cable.

Tom DeReggi
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IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


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Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 11:46 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango APEX data / mgmt cable connection question


> We use what is provided by Trango. We have never sealed or
> weatherproofed them.
>
> Travis
> Microserv
>
>
> Scott Carullo wrote:
>> Those of you that use this equipment do you recommend using the supplied
>> connectors for ethernet only or do you seal around them with additional
>> material like coax seal or similar?
>>
>> I have never liked connectors that have cables enter from the sides into
>> the equipment even with the fancy seal connectors provided.  I just don't
>> want to have a problem and was curious what you guys do to keep the water
>> out or if what is provided is sufficient.
>>
>> Thanks for your time.
>>
>> Scott Carullo
>> Brevard Wireless
>> 321-205-1100 x102
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Re: [WISPA] Trango APEX data / mgmt cable connection question

[Josh Luthman]

Travis has no problems and we all know he has a bunch of them Trangos.
 Can't argue with results...

On 6/10/10, Robert West  wrote:
> Cables from the sides?  Drip loop, coax seal or silicone and a WTF letter to
> the manufacturer.
>
> Bob-
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>
> Those of you that use this equipment do you recommend using the supplied
> connectors for ethernet only or do you seal around them with additional
> material like coax seal or similar?
>
> I have never liked connectors that have cables enter from the sides into
> the equipment even with the fancy seal connectors provided.  I just don't
> want to have a problem and was curious what you guys do to keep the water
> out or if what is provided is sufficient.
>
> Thanks for your time.
>
> Scott Carullo
> Brevard Wireless
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Re: [WISPA] Trango APEX data / mgmt cable connection question

[Robert West]

Cables from the sides?  Drip loop, coax seal or silicone and a WTF letter to
the manufacturer.

Bob-


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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Scott Carullo
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 11:22 AM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Trango APEX data / mgmt cable connection question

Those of you that use this equipment do you recommend using the supplied 
connectors for ethernet only or do you seal around them with additional 
material like coax seal or similar?  

I have never liked connectors that have cables enter from the sides into 
the equipment even with the fancy seal connectors provided.  I just don't 
want to have a problem and was curious what you guys do to keep the water 
out or if what is provided is sufficient.

Thanks for your time.

Scott Carullo
Brevard Wireless
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Re: [WISPA] Trango APEX data / mgmt cable connection question

[Brad Belton]

We apply Coax-Seal around the cable clamp gland wrapping it out to the 3/8"
armored CAT5 cable, but not around the 1/8 turn locking collar.  I agree the
Apex cable entries are about as chickenshit as we've ever seen, but so far
no water issues when additional Coax-Seal is used.

Best,


Brad


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Scott Carullo
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 10:22 AM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Trango APEX data / mgmt cable connection question

Those of you that use this equipment do you recommend using the supplied 
connectors for ethernet only or do you seal around them with additional 
material like coax seal or similar?  

I have never liked connectors that have cables enter from the sides into 
the equipment even with the fancy seal connectors provided.  I just don't 
want to have a problem and was curious what you guys do to keep the water 
out or if what is provided is sufficient.

Thanks for your time.

Scott Carullo
Brevard Wireless
321-205-1100 x102






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Re: [WISPA] Trango APEX data / mgmt cable connection question

[Travis Johnson]

We use what is provided by Trango. We have never sealed or 
weatherproofed them.

Travis
Microserv


Scott Carullo wrote:
> Those of you that use this equipment do you recommend using the supplied 
> connectors for ethernet only or do you seal around them with additional 
> material like coax seal or similar?  
>
> I have never liked connectors that have cables enter from the sides into 
> the equipment even with the fancy seal connectors provided.  I just don't 
> want to have a problem and was curious what you guys do to keep the water 
> out or if what is provided is sufficient.
>
> Thanks for your time.
>
> Scott Carullo
> Brevard Wireless
> 321-205-1100 x102
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] Trango 900AP

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Re: [WISPA] Trango APEX link trouble

[Brad Belton]

Ha!  Good to hear and you have to love the simple fix!

Brad


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Kevin Sullivan
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 2:14 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango APEX link trouble

Ok, I think we finally fixed it. It was only happening when it was hot 
becauseof a loose wire. The PS that came from Trango already had the 
power connector on it, so we didn't check the set screws that hold the wires

into the connector. While I was troubleshooting today, one of the wires fell

out. Both set screws were so loose, I'm suprised they stayed in long enough 
for us to mount the equipment. I tightened them down, and the problem seems 
to be solved.

Cheers,
Kevin
- Original Message - 
From: "Tom DeReggi" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 6:24 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango APEX link trouble


> Sure its possible to have a radio that is failing. All I can say isthe
> easiest and quickest thing to do is to 100% rule out everything else.
> I have to admit, I jumped to think I had a bad radio twice, even go the
> replacements shipped, and both times it ended up being cabling after all.
> The Apexes are pretty solid.
>
> There are so many possible ways CAT5 can go bad. And I know, the odds of 
> two
> cables going bad, (the management and Data) doesn't sound likey, but its
> possible.
> the APEX can be powered up by ether management or data cable. You might 
> want
> to try powering from the other one.
>
> For cable damage, the big things are corrosion on the pins, or a bad crimp
> to one of the pins. Those things are hard to spot, and dont always surface
> for 6 months or so.. Cable blows in the wind, link goes down, or overheats
> or shuts down because not getting enough current or to much while shorting
> out.
>
> Now when the APEXs first came out (like the first batch) there was a
> manufacturering flaw with a part that I think effected Ethernet life, but
> Trango proactively recalled them, like days after they shipped, and gave
> free repairs on it. (I was impressed, very responsibly done) But that was
> ages ago.
>
> Tom DeReggi
> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>
>
> ----- Original Message - 
> From: "Kevin Sullivan" 
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 8:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango APEX link trouble
>
>
>> It's been running six months without a dropped packet. Cable run is ~100
>> feet, maybe a little less. We were powering it over the data port, but we
>> switched to the management port today. We checked the power output on the
>> PS, and with the power supply plugged into the power injector, but the
>> radio
>> not actually working, we got -47.8v. That makes me think it is unlikely 
>> to
>> be an actual power supply issue.
>>
>>I'm starting to wonder if it is heat related somehow. The problem
>> started at around 10:00am today, and now that it's nearing six and 
>> cooling
>> down, the link came back up and started working fine. I can't think what
>> else it would be related to... maybe the power injector doesn't like it
>> when
>> it gets warm? I have a new power injector coming from Trango -- I'm
>> thinking
>> maybe the current power injector has a bad component that doesn't react
>> well
>> to heat.
>>
>> Kevin
>>
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Brad Belton" 
>> To: "'WISPA General List'" 
>> Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 1:39 PM
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango APEX link trouble
>>
>>
>>> How long have you had the link installed?
>>>
>>> How long is the Ethernet cable that you are running the PoE on?
>>>
>>> Are you powering the unit over the management port or the data port?
>>>
>>> We had trouble keeping an Apex unit powered up some time ago.  It would
>>> run
>>> for 15min to an hour and then stop.  Turned out even though the Ethernet
>>> cable was only 250-260' we determined we need to power the unit via a
>>> shorter cable run.  Once we did that the problem hasn't arisen again
>>> since.
>>>
>>> The odd thing is we have several Apex radios running without trouble on
>>> cables even longer than the 250-260' cable this unit was running on.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>>
>>> Brad
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: wireless-boun..

Re: [WISPA] Trango APEX link trouble

[Kevin Sullivan]

Ok, I think we finally fixed it. It was only happening when it was hot 
becauseof a loose wire. The PS that came from Trango already had the 
power connector on it, so we didn't check the set screws that hold the wires 
into the connector. While I was troubleshooting today, one of the wires fell 
out. Both set screws were so loose, I'm suprised they stayed in long enough 
for us to mount the equipment. I tightened them down, and the problem seems 
to be solved.

Cheers,
Kevin
- Original Message - 
From: "Tom DeReggi" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 6:24 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango APEX link trouble


> Sure its possible to have a radio that is failing. All I can say isthe
> easiest and quickest thing to do is to 100% rule out everything else.
> I have to admit, I jumped to think I had a bad radio twice, even go the
> replacements shipped, and both times it ended up being cabling after all.
> The Apexes are pretty solid.
>
> There are so many possible ways CAT5 can go bad. And I know, the odds of 
> two
> cables going bad, (the management and Data) doesn't sound likey, but its
> possible.
> the APEX can be powered up by ether management or data cable. You might 
> want
> to try powering from the other one.
>
> For cable damage, the big things are corrosion on the pins, or a bad crimp
> to one of the pins. Those things are hard to spot, and dont always surface
> for 6 months or so.. Cable blows in the wind, link goes down, or overheats
> or shuts down because not getting enough current or to much while shorting
> out.
>
> Now when the APEXs first came out (like the first batch) there was a
> manufacturering flaw with a part that I think effected Ethernet life, but
> Trango proactively recalled them, like days after they shipped, and gave
> free repairs on it. (I was impressed, very responsibly done) But that was
> ages ago.
>
> Tom DeReggi
> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>
>
> ----- Original Message - 
> From: "Kevin Sullivan" 
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 8:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango APEX link trouble
>
>
>> It's been running six months without a dropped packet. Cable run is ~100
>> feet, maybe a little less. We were powering it over the data port, but we
>> switched to the management port today. We checked the power output on the
>> PS, and with the power supply plugged into the power injector, but the
>> radio
>> not actually working, we got -47.8v. That makes me think it is unlikely 
>> to
>> be an actual power supply issue.
>>
>>I'm starting to wonder if it is heat related somehow. The problem
>> started at around 10:00am today, and now that it's nearing six and 
>> cooling
>> down, the link came back up and started working fine. I can't think what
>> else it would be related to... maybe the power injector doesn't like it
>> when
>> it gets warm? I have a new power injector coming from Trango -- I'm
>> thinking
>> maybe the current power injector has a bad component that doesn't react
>> well
>> to heat.
>>
>> Kevin
>>
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Brad Belton" 
>> To: "'WISPA General List'" 
>> Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 1:39 PM
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango APEX link trouble
>>
>>
>>> How long have you had the link installed?
>>>
>>> How long is the Ethernet cable that you are running the PoE on?
>>>
>>> Are you powering the unit over the management port or the data port?
>>>
>>> We had trouble keeping an Apex unit powered up some time ago.  It would
>>> run
>>> for 15min to an hour and then stop.  Turned out even though the Ethernet
>>> cable was only 250-260' we determined we need to power the unit via a
>>> shorter cable run.  Once we did that the problem hasn't arisen again
>>> since.
>>>
>>> The odd thing is we have several Apex radios running without trouble on
>>> cables even longer than the 250-260' cable this unit was running on.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>>
>>> Brad
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Kevin Sullivan
>>> Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 3:26 PM
>>> To: WISPA General List
>>> Subject: [WISPA] Trango APEX link trouble
>>>
>>> Hel

Re: [WISPA] Trango APEX link trouble

[can...@believewireless.net]

Another thing to try is to make sure you have the latest version of
the firmware.  We have seen Apex links stop passing traffic in
rain/thunderstorms with version 1.2.0.  Upgrading it fixes it.



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Re: [WISPA] Trango APEX link trouble

[Tom DeReggi]

Sure its possible to have a radio that is failing. All I can say isthe 
easiest and quickest thing to do is to 100% rule out everything else.
I have to admit, I jumped to think I had a bad radio twice, even go the 
replacements shipped, and both times it ended up being cabling after all.
The Apexes are pretty solid.

There are so many possible ways CAT5 can go bad. And I know, the odds of two 
cables going bad, (the management and Data) doesn't sound likey, but its 
possible.
the APEX can be powered up by ether management or data cable. You might want 
to try powering from the other one.

For cable damage, the big things are corrosion on the pins, or a bad crimp 
to one of the pins. Those things are hard to spot, and dont always surface 
for 6 months or so.. Cable blows in the wind, link goes down, or overheats 
or shuts down because not getting enough current or to much while shorting 
out.

Now when the APEXs first came out (like the first batch) there was a 
manufacturering flaw with a part that I think effected Ethernet life, but 
Trango proactively recalled them, like days after they shipped, and gave 
free repairs on it. (I was impressed, very responsibly done) But that was 
ages ago.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: "Kevin Sullivan" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 8:49 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango APEX link trouble


> It's been running six months without a dropped packet. Cable run is ~100
> feet, maybe a little less. We were powering it over the data port, but we
> switched to the management port today. We checked the power output on the
> PS, and with the power supply plugged into the power injector, but the 
> radio
> not actually working, we got -47.8v. That makes me think it is unlikely to
> be an actual power supply issue.
>
>I'm starting to wonder if it is heat related somehow. The problem
> started at around 10:00am today, and now that it's nearing six and cooling
> down, the link came back up and started working fine. I can't think what
> else it would be related to... maybe the power injector doesn't like it 
> when
> it gets warm? I have a new power injector coming from Trango -- I'm 
> thinking
> maybe the current power injector has a bad component that doesn't react 
> well
> to heat.
>
> Kevin
>
>
> ----- Original Message - 
> From: "Brad Belton" 
> To: "'WISPA General List'" 
> Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 1:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango APEX link trouble
>
>
>> How long have you had the link installed?
>>
>> How long is the Ethernet cable that you are running the PoE on?
>>
>> Are you powering the unit over the management port or the data port?
>>
>> We had trouble keeping an Apex unit powered up some time ago.  It would
>> run
>> for 15min to an hour and then stop.  Turned out even though the Ethernet
>> cable was only 250-260' we determined we need to power the unit via a
>> shorter cable run.  Once we did that the problem hasn't arisen again
>> since.
>>
>> The odd thing is we have several Apex radios running without trouble on
>> cables even longer than the 250-260' cable this unit was running on.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>>
>> Brad
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Kevin Sullivan
>> Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 3:26 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: [WISPA] Trango APEX link trouble
>>
>> Hello,
>>We have an 11ghz Trango APEX link up for one of our incoming lines, 
>> and
>> it went down this morning. There is no link light on either the managment
>> or
>> traffic port on one end. We unplugged-and-replugged the power on it, and
>> it
>> came back up for fifteen to twenty minutes, then crashed again. I've been
>> trying to get a hold of Trango tech support, but so far it's been several
>> hours and I just keep getting voice mail. Has anyone else seen anything
>> like
>> this?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>Kevin
>>
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Trango APEX link trouble

[Josh Luthman]

The Redline an80 5.4 had a cold temperature problem.

Your theory is possible...

On 5/14/10, Kevin Sullivan  wrote:
> It's been running six months without a dropped packet. Cable run is ~100
> feet, maybe a little less. We were powering it over the data port, but we
> switched to the management port today. We checked the power output on the
> PS, and with the power supply plugged into the power injector, but the radio
> not actually working, we got -47.8v. That makes me think it is unlikely to
> be an actual power supply issue.
>
> I'm starting to wonder if it is heat related somehow. The problem
> started at around 10:00am today, and now that it's nearing six and cooling
> down, the link came back up and started working fine. I can't think what
> else it would be related to... maybe the power injector doesn't like it when
> it gets warm? I have a new power injector coming from Trango -- I'm thinking
> maybe the current power injector has a bad component that doesn't react well
> to heat.
>
> Kevin
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Brad Belton" 
> To: "'WISPA General List'" 
> Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 1:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango APEX link trouble
>
>
>> How long have you had the link installed?
>>
>> How long is the Ethernet cable that you are running the PoE on?
>>
>> Are you powering the unit over the management port or the data port?
>>
>> We had trouble keeping an Apex unit powered up some time ago.  It would
>> run
>> for 15min to an hour and then stop.  Turned out even though the Ethernet
>> cable was only 250-260' we determined we need to power the unit via a
>> shorter cable run.  Once we did that the problem hasn't arisen again
>> since.
>>
>> The odd thing is we have several Apex radios running without trouble on
>> cables even longer than the 250-260' cable this unit was running on.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>>
>> Brad
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Kevin Sullivan
>> Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 3:26 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: [WISPA] Trango APEX link trouble
>>
>> Hello,
>>We have an 11ghz Trango APEX link up for one of our incoming lines, and
>> it went down this morning. There is no link light on either the managment
>> or
>> traffic port on one end. We unplugged-and-replugged the power on it, and
>> it
>> came back up for fifteen to twenty minutes, then crashed again. I've been
>> trying to get a hold of Trango tech support, but so far it's been several
>> hours and I just keep getting voice mail. Has anyone else seen anything
>> like
>> this?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>Kevin
>>
>>
>> 
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Re: [WISPA] Trango APEX link trouble

[Kevin Sullivan]

It's been running six months without a dropped packet. Cable run is ~100 
feet, maybe a little less. We were powering it over the data port, but we 
switched to the management port today. We checked the power output on the 
PS, and with the power supply plugged into the power injector, but the radio 
not actually working, we got -47.8v. That makes me think it is unlikely to 
be an actual power supply issue.

I'm starting to wonder if it is heat related somehow. The problem 
started at around 10:00am today, and now that it's nearing six and cooling 
down, the link came back up and started working fine. I can't think what 
else it would be related to... maybe the power injector doesn't like it when 
it gets warm? I have a new power injector coming from Trango -- I'm thinking 
maybe the current power injector has a bad component that doesn't react well 
to heat.

Kevin


- Original Message - 
From: "Brad Belton" 
To: "'WISPA General List'" 
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 1:39 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango APEX link trouble


> How long have you had the link installed?
>
> How long is the Ethernet cable that you are running the PoE on?
>
> Are you powering the unit over the management port or the data port?
>
> We had trouble keeping an Apex unit powered up some time ago.  It would 
> run
> for 15min to an hour and then stop.  Turned out even though the Ethernet
> cable was only 250-260' we determined we need to power the unit via a
> shorter cable run.  Once we did that the problem hasn't arisen again 
> since.
>
> The odd thing is we have several Apex radios running without trouble on
> cables even longer than the 250-260' cable this unit was running on.
>
> Best,
>
>
> Brad
>
>
> -Original Message-
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> Behalf Of Kevin Sullivan
> Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 3:26 PM
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> Subject: [WISPA] Trango APEX link trouble
>
> Hello,
>We have an 11ghz Trango APEX link up for one of our incoming lines, and
> it went down this morning. There is no link light on either the managment 
> or
> traffic port on one end. We unplugged-and-replugged the power on it, and 
> it
> came back up for fifteen to twenty minutes, then crashed again. I've been
> trying to get a hold of Trango tech support, but so far it's been several
> hours and I just keep getting voice mail. Has anyone else seen anything 
> like
> this?
>
> Thanks,
>Kevin
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Re: [WISPA] Trango APEX link trouble

[Brad Belton]

Possibly with the Trango rack mount style power supplies (have to go look at
one to confirm) or a third party power suppliy, but not with the Trango
laptop power supply style.  

We were using the Trango laptop style PS on this particular Apex as it was a
single client user with VERY limited space.  There was no room for even a 1U
power supply!  Now that's limited space!  Lol

Best,


Brad


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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 3:41 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango APEX link trouble

Voltage on the power supply can be increased if all you need is a
shorter power run.

On 5/14/10, Brad Belton  wrote:
> How long have you had the link installed?
>
> How long is the Ethernet cable that you are running the PoE on?
>
> Are you powering the unit over the management port or the data port?
>
> We had trouble keeping an Apex unit powered up some time ago.  It would
run
> for 15min to an hour and then stop.  Turned out even though the Ethernet
> cable was only 250-260' we determined we need to power the unit via a
> shorter cable run.  Once we did that the problem hasn't arisen again
since.
>
> The odd thing is we have several Apex radios running without trouble on
> cables even longer than the 250-260' cable this unit was running on.
>
> Best,
>
>
> Brad
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Kevin Sullivan
> Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 3:26 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: [WISPA] Trango APEX link trouble
>
> Hello,
> We have an 11ghz Trango APEX link up for one of our incoming lines,
and
> it went down this morning. There is no link light on either the managment
or
> traffic port on one end. We unplugged-and-replugged the power on it, and
it
> came back up for fifteen to twenty minutes, then crashed again. I've been
> trying to get a hold of Trango tech support, but so far it's been several
> hours and I just keep getting voice mail. Has anyone else seen anything
like
> this?
>
> Thanks,
> Kevin
>
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Re: [WISPA] Trango APEX link trouble

[Josh Luthman]

Voltage on the power supply can be increased if all you need is a
shorter power run.

On 5/14/10, Brad Belton  wrote:
> How long have you had the link installed?
>
> How long is the Ethernet cable that you are running the PoE on?
>
> Are you powering the unit over the management port or the data port?
>
> We had trouble keeping an Apex unit powered up some time ago.  It would run
> for 15min to an hour and then stop.  Turned out even though the Ethernet
> cable was only 250-260' we determined we need to power the unit via a
> shorter cable run.  Once we did that the problem hasn't arisen again since.
>
> The odd thing is we have several Apex radios running without trouble on
> cables even longer than the 250-260' cable this unit was running on.
>
> Best,
>
>
> Brad
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Kevin Sullivan
> Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 3:26 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: [WISPA] Trango APEX link trouble
>
> Hello,
> We have an 11ghz Trango APEX link up for one of our incoming lines, and
> it went down this morning. There is no link light on either the managment or
> traffic port on one end. We unplugged-and-replugged the power on it, and it
> came back up for fifteen to twenty minutes, then crashed again. I've been
> trying to get a hold of Trango tech support, but so far it's been several
> hours and I just keep getting voice mail. Has anyone else seen anything like
> this?
>
> Thanks,
> Kevin
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Re: [WISPA] Trango APEX link trouble

[Travis Johnson]

Hi,

Have you done the basic troubleshooting? Checked the cables, connectors 
for water, etc. Have you rebooted the far side? When it comes back up, 
what is the signal level?

Travis
Microserv


Kevin Sullivan wrote:
> Hello,
> We have an 11ghz Trango APEX link up for one of our incoming lines, and 
> it went down this morning. There is no link light on either the managment or 
> traffic port on one end. We unplugged-and-replugged the power on it, and it 
> came back up for fifteen to twenty minutes, then crashed again. I've been 
> trying to get a hold of Trango tech support, but so far it's been several 
> hours and I just keep getting voice mail. Has anyone else seen anything like 
> this?
>
> Thanks,
> Kevin
>
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Re: [WISPA] Trango APEX link trouble

[Brad Belton]

How long have you had the link installed?

How long is the Ethernet cable that you are running the PoE on?

Are you powering the unit over the management port or the data port?

We had trouble keeping an Apex unit powered up some time ago.  It would run
for 15min to an hour and then stop.  Turned out even though the Ethernet
cable was only 250-260' we determined we need to power the unit via a
shorter cable run.  Once we did that the problem hasn't arisen again since.

The odd thing is we have several Apex radios running without trouble on
cables even longer than the 250-260' cable this unit was running on.

Best,


Brad


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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Kevin Sullivan
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 3:26 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Trango APEX link trouble

Hello,
We have an 11ghz Trango APEX link up for one of our incoming lines, and
it went down this morning. There is no link light on either the managment or
traffic port on one end. We unplugged-and-replugged the power on it, and it
came back up for fifteen to twenty minutes, then crashed again. I've been
trying to get a hold of Trango tech support, but so far it's been several
hours and I just keep getting voice mail. Has anyone else seen anything like
this?

Thanks,
Kevin




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Re: [WISPA] Trango 5830 AP going deaf

[Randy Cosby]

My experience has been the same.  They are getting old and don't keep up 
with the young kids so well, but they are solid. I've had 2 fail so far 
- one with a heater issue and this one.



On 3/20/2010 5:42 PM, Tom DeReggi wrote:
> Overall our Trango APs have lasted very long, been super reliable, more
> reliable than any other product we have ever used. Many going on 10 years
> now, without a blip.
> But, for the few that have failed, one of the commom symptoms is going deaf.
> It can be hard to troubleshoot because at first, they'll just get lower RSSI
> for a short period usually at peak Sun/heat time, and get stronger at night.
> The exact same symptoms occur when there is random noise. The noise
> resulting in 5-10 db loss, and full strength comes back when noise is gone.
> So sometimes the only way we know its the radio was to replace the AP, and
> see if the same problem occurs. Or relocte the AP, and see if it has the
> same random symptoms. In some cases, the APs go deaf, and CPEs see them with
> RSSI but cant associate because APs cant hear them.
>
> I dont have an exact number, but I know I can count the total failure over
> 10 years on fingers of one hand, with a finger or two to spare. So it does
> not happen often. But its one reason I tend not to want to buy used APs.
> You'd have no way to test if it was flaky before putting it in the field for
> a while..
>
> Tom DeReggi
> RapidDSL&  Wireless, Inc
> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Gary Garrett"
> To: "WISPA General List"
> Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 2:32 AM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango 5830 AP going deaf
>
>
>
>> That is the classic sign of a mid path lightning strike.
>> Kind of like looking at a nuclear explosion with field glasses.
>> It probably hit somewhere closer to the AP than the clients.
>>
>> We had a strike in the middle of a lake... it got the AP and all the
>> clients all around the lake shore, not the Backhaul though because it
>> was a narrow beam  pointed up at a mountain not down at the water.
>> That really sucked.
>>
>>
>> On 3/19/2010 2:10 PM, Randy Cosby wrote:
>>  
>>> Anyone ever seen a Trango 5830 AP go deaf?  I have one that was showing
>>> RSSI from AP to SU at 10 to 13db higher than SU to AP.  Same on all
>>> channels, vert or horiz polarity.  Cruddy linktests as well.
>>>
>>> Thought I might have a bad noise problem, but replacing the AP fixed it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [WISPA] Trango 5830 AP going deaf

[RickG]

I second your results on Trango. I had 3 Atlas 5800 units on top of a
very lightning prone 550' tower in West Palm Beach since 2003. I know
they took hits because the switches on the bottom lost ports on a
monthly basis even with LP protection. I finally ran fiber to the AP's
whcih took care of the switch issues. Trango - just set'em &
forget'em!

On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 7:42 PM, Tom DeReggi  wrote:
> Overall our Trango APs have lasted very long, been super reliable, more
> reliable than any other product we have ever used. Many going on 10 years
> now, without a blip.
> But, for the few that have failed, one of the commom symptoms is going deaf.
> It can be hard to troubleshoot because at first, they'll just get lower RSSI
> for a short period usually at peak Sun/heat time, and get stronger at night.
> The exact same symptoms occur when there is random noise. The noise
> resulting in 5-10 db loss, and full strength comes back when noise is gone.
> So sometimes the only way we know its the radio was to replace the AP, and
> see if the same problem occurs. Or relocte the AP, and see if it has the
> same random symptoms. In some cases, the APs go deaf, and CPEs see them with
> RSSI but cant associate because APs cant hear them.
>
> I dont have an exact number, but I know I can count the total failure over
> 10 years on fingers of one hand, with a finger or two to spare. So it does
> not happen often. But its one reason I tend not to want to buy used APs.
> You'd have no way to test if it was flaky before putting it in the field for
> a while..
>
> Tom DeReggi
> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>
>
> - Original Message -----
> From: "Gary Garrett" 
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 2:32 AM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango 5830 AP going deaf
>
>
>> That is the classic sign of a mid path lightning strike.
>> Kind of like looking at a nuclear explosion with field glasses.
>> It probably hit somewhere closer to the AP than the clients.
>>
>> We had a strike in the middle of a lake... it got the AP and all the
>> clients all around the lake shore, not the Backhaul though because it
>> was a narrow beam  pointed up at a mountain not down at the water.
>> That really sucked.
>>
>>
>> On 3/19/2010 2:10 PM, Randy Cosby wrote:
>>> Anyone ever seen a Trango 5830 AP go deaf?  I have one that was showing
>>> RSSI from AP to SU at 10 to 13db higher than SU to AP.  Same on all
>>> channels, vert or horiz polarity.  Cruddy linktests as well.
>>>
>>> Thought I might have a bad noise problem, but replacing the AP fixed it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Trango 5830 AP going deaf

[Tom DeReggi]

Overall our Trango APs have lasted very long, been super reliable, more 
reliable than any other product we have ever used. Many going on 10 years 
now, without a blip.
But, for the few that have failed, one of the commom symptoms is going deaf. 
It can be hard to troubleshoot because at first, they'll just get lower RSSI 
for a short period usually at peak Sun/heat time, and get stronger at night. 
The exact same symptoms occur when there is random noise. The noise 
resulting in 5-10 db loss, and full strength comes back when noise is gone. 
So sometimes the only way we know its the radio was to replace the AP, and 
see if the same problem occurs. Or relocte the AP, and see if it has the 
same random symptoms. In some cases, the APs go deaf, and CPEs see them with 
RSSI but cant associate because APs cant hear them.

I dont have an exact number, but I know I can count the total failure over 
10 years on fingers of one hand, with a finger or two to spare. So it does 
not happen often. But its one reason I tend not to want to buy used APs. 
You'd have no way to test if it was flaky before putting it in the field for 
a while..

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: "Gary Garrett" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 2:32 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango 5830 AP going deaf


> That is the classic sign of a mid path lightning strike.
> Kind of like looking at a nuclear explosion with field glasses.
> It probably hit somewhere closer to the AP than the clients.
>
> We had a strike in the middle of a lake... it got the AP and all the
> clients all around the lake shore, not the Backhaul though because it
> was a narrow beam  pointed up at a mountain not down at the water.
> That really sucked.
>
>
> On 3/19/2010 2:10 PM, Randy Cosby wrote:
>> Anyone ever seen a Trango 5830 AP go deaf?  I have one that was showing
>> RSSI from AP to SU at 10 to 13db higher than SU to AP.  Same on all
>> channels, vert or horiz polarity.  Cruddy linktests as well.
>>
>> Thought I might have a bad noise problem, but replacing the AP fixed it.
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Trango 5830 AP going deaf

[Gary Garrett]

That is the classic sign of a mid path lightning strike.
Kind of like looking at a nuclear explosion with field glasses.
It probably hit somewhere closer to the AP than the clients.

We had a strike in the middle of a lake... it got the AP and all the 
clients all around the lake shore, not the Backhaul though because it 
was a narrow beam  pointed up at a mountain not down at the water.
That really sucked.


On 3/19/2010 2:10 PM, Randy Cosby wrote:
> Anyone ever seen a Trango 5830 AP go deaf?  I have one that was showing
> RSSI from AP to SU at 10 to 13db higher than SU to AP.  Same on all
> channels, vert or horiz polarity.  Cruddy linktests as well.
>
> Thought I might have a bad noise problem, but replacing the AP fixed it.
>
>
>




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Re: [WISPA] Trango 5830 AP going deaf

[Josh Luthman]

Ok.  Thanks for posting your experience.

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On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 5:35 PM, Randy Cosby  wrote:
> Mostly SU to AP.
>
>
>
> On 3/19/2010 3:28 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>> Cruddy linktests as well.
>>>
>> Both ways or just from SU to AP?
>>
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>> continue that counts.”
>> --- Winston Churchill
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Randy Cosby  wrote:
>>
>>> Anyone ever seen a Trango 5830 AP go deaf?  I have one that was showing
>>> RSSI from AP to SU at 10 to 13db higher than SU to AP.  Same on all
>>> channels, vert or horiz polarity.  Cruddy linktests as well.
>>>
>>> Thought I might have a bad noise problem, but replacing the AP fixed it.
>>>
>>>
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>>>
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Re: [WISPA] Trango 5830 AP going deaf

[Randy Cosby]

Mostly SU to AP.



On 3/19/2010 3:28 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>> Cruddy linktests as well.
>>  
> Both ways or just from SU to AP?
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> On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Randy Cosby  wrote:
>
>> Anyone ever seen a Trango 5830 AP go deaf?  I have one that was showing
>> RSSI from AP to SU at 10 to 13db higher than SU to AP.  Same on all
>> channels, vert or horiz polarity.  Cruddy linktests as well.
>>
>> Thought I might have a bad noise problem, but replacing the AP fixed it.
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Trango 5830 AP going deaf

[Josh Luthman]

>Cruddy linktests as well.

Both ways or just from SU to AP?

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On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Randy Cosby  wrote:
> Anyone ever seen a Trango 5830 AP go deaf?  I have one that was showing
> RSSI from AP to SU at 10 to 13db higher than SU to AP.  Same on all
> channels, vert or horiz polarity.  Cruddy linktests as well.
>
> Thought I might have a bad noise problem, but replacing the AP fixed it.
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] Trango APEX firmware question

[Steven McGehee]

Hi all,

Just to update you, Trango contacted me in the meantime and suggested 
doing a full 'reset' on each side and then re-entering in all my config, 
excluding the 'remark,' but including the license key and everything 
else (freqs, IPs, etc). Doing this did work, and the link is 
re-established. However, I still cannot reach my units over their 
assigned IBM (In-Band Management) IP when I am attempting to contact 
them outside of their assigned Vlan. The reason for this is I cannot (or 
do not see how) to specify an IBM IP Gateway, although this version of 
the firmware supposedly adds "IBM gateway fixed" -- do any of you have 
similar issues?

Thank you.

-Steven



Steven McGehee wrote:
> I have a similar issue with an 11Ghz Apex that for some reason, is stuck 
> in debug mode in the command line (and the command to leave that and go 
> back to normal view/config mode isn't working). It's still running the 
> v1p1p1 firmware.
>
> Thank you all for your responses by the way -- I did, earlier today, go 
> to each side of the first Apex link I wanted to upgrade which operates 
> in 11Ghz. I plugged my laptop into each Management port on the unit and 
> performed the upgrade per the Manual_TLink_APEX18_Rev1p0.pdf. Everything 
> went well, but after the reboot, the link was down. Fortunately, this is 
> just a secondary link and no customers were on it.
>
> I went to the other side of it, and did the exact same procedure there. 
> The link was still down, although the upgrade procedure went by the 
> book. I power cycled both sides, no luck. Any thoughts? All settings 
> were saved just before the reboot (after the firmware updates, the final 
> step is to reboot and I saved the config just before that). I'm going to 
> look more into it tomorrow and report back, but I would appreciate any 
> thoughts in the meantime if you folks have similar experiences.
>
> Thanks!
>
> -Steven
>
>
>
>
> Tom DeReggi wrote:
>   
>> I always find it interesting how different people have different experiences 
>> with the same gear.
>> I'm wondering if it depends on what firmware each was using.at the time?
>>
>> Our APEX gear is 18Ghz, and we have not had the same experiences shared by 
>> the others.
>> The experience we had was that the management interface became unaccessible 
>> after a period of like a month, but data always passed flawlessly.
>> Since we upgraded to the latest firmware, this no longer occurs.
>>
>> Tom DeReggi
>> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
>> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>>
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "David E. Smith" 
>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>> Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 11:06 AM
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango APEX firmware question
>>
>>
>>   
>> 
>>> On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 08:50, Brad Belton  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>   
>>>> The reason the Apex18 was upgraded was because it would just stop passing
>>>> data even though the rssi, BER, MSE and link lock status all showed good.
>>>> So far we haven't seen the issue again, but this problem only surfaced
>>>> every
>>>> month or two.  Jury is still out if the firmware resolved the issue.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   
>>>> 
>>> I had basically that same problem, except the radios would stop passing
>>> traffic every two or three days. Applied that firmware late last summer
>>> (August, maybe? September? I've slept since then). Not a single glitch
>>> since, so I'm willing to say the firmware resolved it.
>>>
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Re: [WISPA] Trango APEX firmware question

[Steven McGehee]

Hi Brad,

I haven't had that particular problem, but I am sure that none of our 
(5) Apex installs have cable lengths of more than probably 200-225'. I 
did hear back from Trango today by the way, and here's what I was given 
as what v1p2r2 offers:

Changes and Enhancements
 

   1. Support for 14 Mhz channel width for Apex-18E.  (speed 6)
   2. RF IN/OUT counter fix
   3. Ip format OID fix in SNMP
   4. New state INPROGRESS added to SNMP ImageUpgradeStatus
   5. IBM netmask and fiber port fix
   6. IBM gateway fixed


Thanks.




Brad Belton wrote:
> Hello David,
>
> Good to hear about your v122 firmware results.  Trango couldn't give me any
> details if the firmware would definitely fix the issue or not.  The problem
> only surfaced every so often, so it was difficult to troubleshoot.
>
> Have you run into any copper Ethernet cable length issues that prevent the
> Apex radios from functioning correctly?  We had an installation that
> required a 250' - 260' cable run and had an issue that would cause the radio
> to shut down.  Sometimes it would be within 15 minutes other times it might
> be 2 hours before it shut down.  Sometimes the radio wouldn't even complete
> its boot up process.
>
> We replaced everything, power supply, cables, DC injector and radio all with
> the same results.  Only after installing another NEMA enclosure in the
> building roof penthouse for another UPS and the Apex power supply to shorten
> the cable length were we able to resolve the problem.  The odd thing is we
> have other Apex radios with similar or even longer cable runs that haven't
> had any trouble.
>
> Just curious if anyone else had seen this issue.
>
> Best,
>
>
> Brad
>
>
> -Original Message-
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> Behalf Of David E. Smith
> Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 10:07 AM
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> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango APEX firmware question
>
> On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 08:50, Brad Belton  wrote:
>
>   
>> The reason the Apex18 was upgraded was because it would just stop passing
>> data even though the rssi, BER, MSE and link lock status all showed good.
>> So far we haven't seen the issue again, but this problem only surfaced
>> every
>> month or two.  Jury is still out if the firmware resolved the issue.
>>
>>
>> 
> I had basically that same problem, except the radios would stop passing
> traffic every two or three days. Applied that firmware late last summer
> (August, maybe? September? I've slept since then). Not a single glitch
> since, so I'm willing to say the firmware resolved it.
>
> David Smith
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Re: [WISPA] Trango APEX firmware question

[Steven McGehee]

I have a similar issue with an 11Ghz Apex that for some reason, is stuck 
in debug mode in the command line (and the command to leave that and go 
back to normal view/config mode isn't working). It's still running the 
v1p1p1 firmware.

Thank you all for your responses by the way -- I did, earlier today, go 
to each side of the first Apex link I wanted to upgrade which operates 
in 11Ghz. I plugged my laptop into each Management port on the unit and 
performed the upgrade per the Manual_TLink_APEX18_Rev1p0.pdf. Everything 
went well, but after the reboot, the link was down. Fortunately, this is 
just a secondary link and no customers were on it.

I went to the other side of it, and did the exact same procedure there. 
The link was still down, although the upgrade procedure went by the 
book. I power cycled both sides, no luck. Any thoughts? All settings 
were saved just before the reboot (after the firmware updates, the final 
step is to reboot and I saved the config just before that). I'm going to 
look more into it tomorrow and report back, but I would appreciate any 
thoughts in the meantime if you folks have similar experiences.

Thanks!

-Steven




Tom DeReggi wrote:
> I always find it interesting how different people have different experiences 
> with the same gear.
> I'm wondering if it depends on what firmware each was using.at the time?
>
> Our APEX gear is 18Ghz, and we have not had the same experiences shared by 
> the others.
> The experience we had was that the management interface became unaccessible 
> after a period of like a month, but data always passed flawlessly.
> Since we upgraded to the latest firmware, this no longer occurs.
>
> Tom DeReggi
> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "David E. Smith" 
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 11:06 AM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango APEX firmware question
>
>
>   
>> On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 08:50, Brad Belton  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>> The reason the Apex18 was upgraded was because it would just stop passing
>>> data even though the rssi, BER, MSE and link lock status all showed good.
>>> So far we haven't seen the issue again, but this problem only surfaced
>>> every
>>> month or two.  Jury is still out if the firmware resolved the issue.
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>> I had basically that same problem, except the radios would stop passing
>> traffic every two or three days. Applied that firmware late last summer
>> (August, maybe? September? I've slept since then). Not a single glitch
>> since, so I'm willing to say the firmware resolved it.
>>
>> David Smith
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Re: [WISPA] Trango APEX firmware question

[Tom DeReggi]

I always find it interesting how different people have different experiences 
with the same gear.
I'm wondering if it depends on what firmware each was using.at the time?

Our APEX gear is 18Ghz, and we have not had the same experiences shared by 
the others.
The experience we had was that the management interface became unaccessible 
after a period of like a month, but data always passed flawlessly.
Since we upgraded to the latest firmware, this no longer occurs.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: "David E. Smith" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 11:06 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango APEX firmware question


> On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 08:50, Brad Belton  wrote:
>
>>
>> The reason the Apex18 was upgraded was because it would just stop passing
>> data even though the rssi, BER, MSE and link lock status all showed good.
>> So far we haven't seen the issue again, but this problem only surfaced
>> every
>> month or two.  Jury is still out if the firmware resolved the issue.
>>
>>
> I had basically that same problem, except the radios would stop passing
> traffic every two or three days. Applied that firmware late last summer
> (August, maybe? September? I've slept since then). Not a single glitch
> since, so I'm willing to say the firmware resolved it.
>
> David Smith
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Re: [WISPA] Trango APEX firmware question

[Brad Belton]

Hello David,

Good to hear about your v122 firmware results.  Trango couldn't give me any
details if the firmware would definitely fix the issue or not.  The problem
only surfaced every so often, so it was difficult to troubleshoot.

Have you run into any copper Ethernet cable length issues that prevent the
Apex radios from functioning correctly?  We had an installation that
required a 250' - 260' cable run and had an issue that would cause the radio
to shut down.  Sometimes it would be within 15 minutes other times it might
be 2 hours before it shut down.  Sometimes the radio wouldn't even complete
its boot up process.

We replaced everything, power supply, cables, DC injector and radio all with
the same results.  Only after installing another NEMA enclosure in the
building roof penthouse for another UPS and the Apex power supply to shorten
the cable length were we able to resolve the problem.  The odd thing is we
have other Apex radios with similar or even longer cable runs that haven't
had any trouble.

Just curious if anyone else had seen this issue.

Best,


Brad


-Original Message-
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Behalf Of David E. Smith
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 10:07 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango APEX firmware question

On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 08:50, Brad Belton  wrote:

>
> The reason the Apex18 was upgraded was because it would just stop passing
> data even though the rssi, BER, MSE and link lock status all showed good.
> So far we haven't seen the issue again, but this problem only surfaced
> every
> month or two.  Jury is still out if the firmware resolved the issue.
>
>
I had basically that same problem, except the radios would stop passing
traffic every two or three days. Applied that firmware late last summer
(August, maybe? September? I've slept since then). Not a single glitch
since, so I'm willing to say the firmware resolved it.

David Smith
MVN.net




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Re: [WISPA] Trango APEX firmware question

[David E. Smith]

On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 08:50, Brad Belton  wrote:

>
> The reason the Apex18 was upgraded was because it would just stop passing
> data even though the rssi, BER, MSE and link lock status all showed good.
> So far we haven't seen the issue again, but this problem only surfaced
> every
> month or two.  Jury is still out if the firmware resolved the issue.
>
>
I had basically that same problem, except the radios would stop passing
traffic every two or three days. Applied that firmware late last summer
(August, maybe? September? I've slept since then). Not a single glitch
since, so I'm willing to say the firmware resolved it.

David Smith
MVN.net



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Re: [WISPA] Trango APEX firmware question

[Brad Belton]

I agree that Trango needs a change log.  I thought they had one, but can't
seem to find it right now.

We recently upgraded an Apex18 and an Apex11 with v122 firmware.  

The reason the Apex18 was upgraded was because it would just stop passing
data even though the rssi, BER, MSE and link lock status all showed good.
So far we haven't seen the issue again, but this problem only surfaced every
month or two.  Jury is still out if the firmware resolved the issue.

The reason the Apex11 was upgraded was because one side would "flap" MSE
readings from -35 to -17 causing ACM to shift modulation from 256QAM to QPSK
and even lose link lock status at times.  The duration of the issue the
couple times we've seen it was relatively short...several minutes...before
clearing up all on its own.

Trango support seems to think there could be some sort of noise being
injected into the radio from the Ethernet port, but wanted us to upgrade
firmware first before continuing troubleshooting.  Since the upgrade we
haven't seen the issue, but again the jury is still out as not enough time
has passed since the upgrade.

Other than that the rest of our Trango licensed links have been pretty
flawless.

Best,


Brad




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Behalf Of Steven McGehee
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 8:10 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Trango APEX firmware question

Hi all,

Wasn't sure if any of you used Trango APEX 11/18Ghz products. We have a 
link in production that is using an older firmware that I plan to 
upgrade to the latest, v1p2r2. I'm unable to find any documentation 
regarding what this firmware actually fixes or what known issues it has. 
Does anyone have the details or have this firmware in production?

Thank you.




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Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex Fiber port

[Brad Belton]

I just noticed you mentioned this problem only affects the 2' antennas, but
we have seen the same trouble with 3' antennas as well.  

Again, we don't use the light duty Home Depot type outdoor CAT5, but a much
higher quality armor jacketed CAT5.  It is not uncommon for us to find a
competitor's light duty outdoor CAT5 split open or damaged after a period of
time on a commercial roof.

Those HVAC and roofing guys can be brutal to cables.  It isn't worth it to
us to skimp on the cable.  

Brad


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Behalf Of Brad Belton
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 7:30 AM
To: can...@believewireless.net; 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex Fiber port

Correct, but flipping the antenna to the other side of the pole is NOT
always an option.

Best,


Brad

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Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 6:40 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex Fiber port

The problem with the connector only shows itself on 2ft antennas.  If
you are looking at the mount from behind the antenna, mounting the
antenna on the right with a 2ft antenna will cause you to have to bend
the cable at 90 degrees right up against the mounting plate.  Trango's
solution for this is to rotate the antenna to the other side of the
mast.  My default it mounts on the right side, but you can switch it
to the left.

Larger or smaller antennas are unaffected.




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Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex Fiber port

[Brad Belton]

Correct, but flipping the antenna to the other side of the pole is NOT
always an option.

Best,


Brad

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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex Fiber port

The problem with the connector only shows itself on 2ft antennas.  If
you are looking at the mount from behind the antenna, mounting the
antenna on the right with a 2ft antenna will cause you to have to bend
the cable at 90 degrees right up against the mounting plate.  Trango's
solution for this is to rotate the antenna to the other side of the
mast.  My default it mounts on the right side, but you can switch it
to the left.

Larger or smaller antennas are unaffected.




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Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex Fiber port

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The problem with the connector only shows itself on 2ft antennas.  If
you are looking at the mount from behind the antenna, mounting the
antenna on the right with a 2ft antenna will cause you to have to bend
the cable at 90 degrees right up against the mounting plate.  Trango's
solution for this is to rotate the antenna to the other side of the
mast.  My default it mounts on the right side, but you can switch it
to the left.

Larger or smaller antennas are unaffected.



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Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex Fiber port

[Brad Belton]

Tom, 

I give...but only because I just don't have nearly the amount of free time
to ramble as you apparently do.  We'll just have to agree to disagree.

Best,


Brad

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Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 4:41 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex Fiber port

Brad,

I do not mean to argue against your points just for the sake of it...










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Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex Fiber port

[Tom DeReggi]

Brad,

I do not mean to argue against your points just for the sake of it, but I 
honestly disagree with your assessment.

On Cat5... Trango APEX uses Conex passthrus the same type that Dragonwave 
uses for their radios.
There is a reason high grade radio manufacturers pick thems, they are 
quality. It is the cream of the crop, period. We've used them all.
Dont hold me to this, but I think Conex makes different size passthrue holes 
for their various caps, and I think the caps are interchangable with the 
same base units.
But I would need to double check that, you might want to explore that 
possibilty.  The Conex passthrues are available through third parties cost 
effectively.
But the fact is, a Passthrue rubber seal hole can NOT be made and proper 
sized for BOTH thickest and thinnest cable. Its one or the other, and best 
that it is made for the type cable most commonly used.
Especially if there is an option to buy seperately the odd size passthru 
that you might need.

Fiber base plate... Why in the world does it matter what it looks like? The 
radio is either located on a commerical roof top or 200ft up a tower. It 
looking like pipe conduit does absolutely no harm.

I agree the same Fiber slot metal plate passthru when used on th TLink45 for 
Cat5, the hole is to small, and wish it was drilled out larger. But on the 
APEX, the hole is the right size for Fiber cable.
And the Conex passthrues are the right size for many CAT5..

> Additionally, Trango placed one of the copper Ethernet ports on the side 
> of
> the radio rather than on the bottom.  This can make for a difficult if not
> impossible connection to service as the cable has to make a sharp 90* turn
> before hitting the mounting pipe.  Hopefully the next generation Apex 
> radios
> will have better weatherized ports and have all of them placed in 
> accessible
> locations.

Once again, FUD.  The Trango Apex as well as any other Manufacturer's ODU, 
has the option to turn 90 degrees to change polarities. In that 
circumstance, IF a connector was on the bottom standard, it would no longer 
be if turned 90 degrees to the alternate polarity.  In Trangos design it 
guarantees that atleast one of the two connectors is in a downward posiiton, 
which is better than the alternative of none in the downward position.  Lets 
compare it to Dragonwave
Dragonwave's pertude outward from the back, equivellent to ALWAYS being 
horizontal or from the side. As well, pertruding out in that direction can 
cause them to bump into back walls or poles behind radio, if aligning at a 
sharp angle from behind's surface.  My point here is that Trango's choice of 
CAT5 placement is better than the competitors. I'm not aware of any 
Manufacturer that came up with better placement.  PS, I do not mean to 
attack Dragonwave, its just that Dragonwave is one of the other radios we 
frequently use, and it was clear in my mind where the CAT5 positioning was, 
so easy example to compare.
Dragonwave's positioning is also exceptable because the Conex Cat5 passthru 
is weathertight at Horizontal placement. But my point is, Trango's placement 
is NOT inferior in design.

I will admit, that if BRad needs a solution to accommodate a thicker cable, 
then that is something that he needs a solution for. But that does not mean 
Trango's design was wrong or bad.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: "Brad Belton" 
To: "'WISPA General List'" 
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 2:06 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex Fiber port


> This throwback port design from the "Trango Summer Engineer Interns" Atlas
> days is crap.  Nothing like the professional look of a galvanized water 
> pipe
> cap on a carrier class radio.  The split rubber gland that is under this
> metal plate/water pipe cap is poor as well.  I'm glad you've been lucky 
> with
> your results, but inspecting these old style "weather proof" ports after a
> period of time always reveals some water and dust penetration.
>
> It's a hack design...for all the good Trango does for our industry don't 
> try
> and defend their short comings.  It diminishes your objective credibility.
> Instead point them out and hopefully Trango will take note on the next
> generation design.
>
> The Apex copper Ethernet ports are far from "the best type in the 
> industry."
> Clearly your exposure to quality weatherized Ethernet ports has been
> limited.  While the Apex copper Ethernet ports are far better than the 
> fiber
> port they are too small to pass a heavy jacketed, outdoor armored jacket.
> So, the result is striping back the armored outer jacket and using 
> Coax-Seal
> from the compression ring to the outer jacket.  It seems Trango opted t

Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex Fiber port

[Randy Cosby]

Thanks for all the tips guys.

I'll definitely be doing it better next time.

Randy

On 1/12/2010 10:11 AM, Tom DeReggi wrote:
> Nothing actually has to be done to seal it because, Trango includes a
> rubbery gel sleeve that compresess between the passsthru metal plate and the
> case, with a tight fitting hole. In most cases that can be good enough.
>
> But to answer your question it depends what Fiber cable type and Power type
> you use.  We generally dont run a dedicated power cable through that same
> hole as fiber. We power the radio through one of the CAT5 ports, which has a
> great paththrue grommit type. That way its one less cable to run, and we get
> a redundant data path to the radio. The radio can be POE powered from either
> CAT5 port. There are reasons that you might choose the management vs data
> CAT5 port, dependant on the circumstances.
>
> (It should be noted that both teh data and fiber port can be both used as
> seperate PVLANs, if desired)
>
> So when just fiber going through the Metal base plate, there is not much to
> seal, UNLESS you do not have fiber cable adequate to survive the elements.
> What we often do is we use 3ft of  Flex tubing from the APEX to an outdoor
> junction box, and then patch in fiber there. It can be a hassle finding a
> cheap outdoor junction box. (So we made our own, for half the cost.)
>
> If using direct buriel multi-pair Loose tube, you can run the cable to the
> outdoor junction box and terminate with a fan out kit to a LC jack patch
> panel.  Then use a short patch cable to extend to the APEX.
> This type install is rock solid, once its done. But its a pain working with
> Fan-out kits on a windy dirty roof. (If on a tower should probably be done
> on ground first, but on roofs it would not fit through access holes in walls
> and such)
>
> There is also indoor/outdoor Fiber that has an overall outer layer, and then
> each inner layer also has its own individual outer jacket. This type cable
> is cheaper, and can have LC connector connected directly to it, without the
> hassle of a Fanout kit. This cable is also significantly thinner, and can
> fit through APEX passthrough. In these cases, the cable can be run directly
> into the APEX without any junctions inbetween.
>
> We always run Fiber that has two pair (two tx and two rx) so if one fiber
> breaks, there is an immediate spare. There is room to slip both pair with
> conectors inside the APEX, I think.
>
> It should be noted that Indoor and Outdoor fiber are not the same. It is not
> just to prevent physical breaks from getting stepped on, or Firecode/UV of
> sleeve. The mor important issue is that it has a different Temperature
> rating for Cold.  If you use indoor fiber outdoor in cold, it can crack
> internally due to cold. It should be noted that allthough Outdoor fiber and
> Fan-out kits will often have a different part number for its outdoor temp
> rated version. But most patch panels and stuff wont have an outdoor temp
> version.
>
> So, fo this reason, sometimes people perfer to put the fiber inside Flex, so
> its one more level of temperature insulation. Actually we use something
> called Liqui-tight, the grey stuff tthat can be bought just about anyware
> like HomeDepot.
>
> We debated for quite a while, whether we should use sealed FC type
> connectors inside the outdoor enclosure. The outcome was LC patch panels
> were easier to find, and LC patch panels will survive the elements just fine
> in most cases.
>
> As well, its also possible to run long fan outkits, and just run the thin
> inner fibers up through the 3ft of Liqui-tight to the APEX. That will
> survive the elements, if using outdoor temp version. BUT we chose NOT to do
> that because we were afraid that if we performed maintenance and needed to
> disconnect the fiber from the APEX, that the weight of the liqui-tight might
> break the fiber or pull loose from connector, if not careful.
> That is why we used a patch panel inside the Junction box, and patch cables
> to the APEX.
>
> We rarely ever run Conduit the whole fiber cable path, its to much of a
> pain. We'd rather use a fiber cable that is of a type that wont easilly
> break. But depending on your install location, you may disagree for your
> situation.  But if you use conduit for the run,  we recommend Liqui-tight,
> its not all that expensive and is easy to run, because you just carry it up
> in the spool.
>
> If you are worried about water intrusion, but dont want to use conduit, you
> can just cut a 6-10" peice of liquitight and screw that to the APEX base
> plate. (They make adapter to integrate to that size I think)
>
> Tom DeReggi
> RapidDSL&  Wireless, Inc
> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Randy Cosby"
> To: "WISPA General List"
> Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 11:04 AM
> Subject: [WISPA] Trango Apex Fiber port
>
>
>
>> Just put up our first Apex 11Ghz link.  Wondering what everyone does to
>> seal up that port.  T

Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex Fiber port

[Brad Belton]

This throwback port design from the "Trango Summer Engineer Interns" Atlas
days is crap.  Nothing like the professional look of a galvanized water pipe
cap on a carrier class radio.  The split rubber gland that is under this
metal plate/water pipe cap is poor as well.  I'm glad you've been lucky with
your results, but inspecting these old style "weather proof" ports after a
period of time always reveals some water and dust penetration.  

It's a hack design...for all the good Trango does for our industry don't try
and defend their short comings.  It diminishes your objective credibility.
Instead point them out and hopefully Trango will take note on the next
generation design.

The Apex copper Ethernet ports are far from "the best type in the industry."
Clearly your exposure to quality weatherized Ethernet ports has been
limited.  While the Apex copper Ethernet ports are far better than the fiber
port they are too small to pass a heavy jacketed, outdoor armored jacket.
So, the result is striping back the armored outer jacket and using Coax-Seal
from the compression ring to the outer jacket.  It seems Trango opted to
cater to those that prefer to run small diameter Home Depot CAT5 rather than
a higher quality far more durable armored CAT5.

Additionally, Trango placed one of the copper Ethernet ports on the side of
the radio rather than on the bottom.  This can make for a difficult if not
impossible connection to service as the cable has to make a sharp 90* turn
before hitting the mounting pipe.  Hopefully the next generation Apex radios
will have better weatherized ports and have all of them placed in accessible
locations.

Best,


Brad



-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 11:27 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex Fiber port

> I agree the execution of this port is
> poor at best.

Not at all the case. Compared to other brand radios, the Apex is one of the 
few that actually has an easilly accessible Fiber port. Both for replacing 
bad Transcievers and for connecting the fiber ends.
This is a PLUS, not a disadvantage. The Fiber connector ends are designed to

clip and adequately hold the Fiber ends in place. Fiber cable does not get 
damaged by water like a coax jack, and it just does not need the same 
precautions.

If the fiber is NOT in flex conduit, then teh fiber should be tied of within

a reasonable distance, which is easy enough.

>  I really don't care for the copper Ethernet ports either as
> they do not have a large enough opening for the shielded outdoor cable we
> run.

Sounds like you are using the wrong type of cable, then
The CAT5 pass-thru jacks are of the best type in the industry. I'm glad they

decided to use the best.
If the Rubber are to thin, you can drill it by freeezing it, and then 
drilling.
But we use direct buriel Superior Essex cable that fits perfectly.
(Thicker mohawk wont fit).

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: "Brad Belton" 
To: "'WISPA General List'" 
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 11:41 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex Fiber port


> Fortunately all our Apex installations have had relatively short cable 
> runs,
> so haven't used the fiber port yet.  I agree the execution of this port is
> poor at best.  I really don't care for the copper Ethernet ports either as
> they do not have a large enough opening for the shielded outdoor cable we
> run.
>
> I would run a short piece of weather tight flex conduit from the radio to 
> a
> NEMA enclosure and then continue the cable run from that point.  We've 
> done
> this with our BridgeWave installations.
>
> I'd still like to see pictures or hear what you ended up doing.
>
> Best,
>
>
> Brad
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Randy Cosby
> Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 10:05 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: [WISPA] Trango Apex Fiber port
>
> Just put up our first Apex 11Ghz link.  Wondering what everyone does to
> seal up that port.  The manual says you have to hook up the fiber /
> power port to metal conduit.  Do you run conduit all the way back to the
> base?  Do you just use a short piece? Do you put a compression fitting
> on the end?  Use flex?  Just curious.
>
> I used a threaded metal 3/4" sweep 90, then capped it off with a Trango
> AP compression fitting.  It's a little heavy though, and I worry about
> the little screws that hold the 3/4" threaded base plate getting
> stripped out.
>
> -- 
> Randy Cosby
> Vice President
> InfoWest,

Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex Fiber port

[Tom DeReggi]

> I agree the execution of this port is
> poor at best.

Not at all the case. Compared to other brand radios, the Apex is one of the 
few that actually has an easilly accessible Fiber port. Both for replacing 
bad Transcievers and for connecting the fiber ends.
This is a PLUS, not a disadvantage. The Fiber connector ends are designed to 
clip and adequately hold the Fiber ends in place. Fiber cable does not get 
damaged by water like a coax jack, and it just does not need the same 
precautions.

If the fiber is NOT in flex conduit, then teh fiber should be tied of within 
a reasonable distance, which is easy enough.

>  I really don't care for the copper Ethernet ports either as
> they do not have a large enough opening for the shielded outdoor cable we
> run.

Sounds like you are using the wrong type of cable, then
The CAT5 pass-thru jacks are of the best type in the industry. I'm glad they 
decided to use the best.
If the Rubber are to thin, you can drill it by freeezing it, and then 
drilling.
But we use direct buriel Superior Essex cable that fits perfectly.
(Thicker mohawk wont fit).

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: "Brad Belton" 
To: "'WISPA General List'" 
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 11:41 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex Fiber port


> Fortunately all our Apex installations have had relatively short cable 
> runs,
> so haven't used the fiber port yet.  I agree the execution of this port is
> poor at best.  I really don't care for the copper Ethernet ports either as
> they do not have a large enough opening for the shielded outdoor cable we
> run.
>
> I would run a short piece of weather tight flex conduit from the radio to 
> a
> NEMA enclosure and then continue the cable run from that point.  We've 
> done
> this with our BridgeWave installations.
>
> I'd still like to see pictures or hear what you ended up doing.
>
> Best,
>
>
> Brad
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Randy Cosby
> Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 10:05 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: [WISPA] Trango Apex Fiber port
>
> Just put up our first Apex 11Ghz link.  Wondering what everyone does to
> seal up that port.  The manual says you have to hook up the fiber /
> power port to metal conduit.  Do you run conduit all the way back to the
> base?  Do you just use a short piece? Do you put a compression fitting
> on the end?  Use flex?  Just curious.
>
> I used a threaded metal 3/4" sweep 90, then capped it off with a Trango
> AP compression fitting.  It's a little heavy though, and I worry about
> the little screws that hold the 3/4" threaded base plate getting
> stripped out.
>
> -- 
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> Vice President
> InfoWest, Inc
>
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Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex Fiber port

[Tom DeReggi]

Nothing actually has to be done to seal it because, Trango includes a 
rubbery gel sleeve that compresess between the passsthru metal plate and the 
case, with a tight fitting hole. In most cases that can be good enough.

But to answer your question it depends what Fiber cable type and Power type 
you use.  We generally dont run a dedicated power cable through that same 
hole as fiber. We power the radio through one of the CAT5 ports, which has a 
great paththrue grommit type. That way its one less cable to run, and we get 
a redundant data path to the radio. The radio can be POE powered from either 
CAT5 port. There are reasons that you might choose the management vs data 
CAT5 port, dependant on the circumstances.

(It should be noted that both teh data and fiber port can be both used as 
seperate PVLANs, if desired)

So when just fiber going through the Metal base plate, there is not much to 
seal, UNLESS you do not have fiber cable adequate to survive the elements. 
What we often do is we use 3ft of  Flex tubing from the APEX to an outdoor 
junction box, and then patch in fiber there. It can be a hassle finding a 
cheap outdoor junction box. (So we made our own, for half the cost.)

If using direct buriel multi-pair Loose tube, you can run the cable to the 
outdoor junction box and terminate with a fan out kit to a LC jack patch 
panel.  Then use a short patch cable to extend to the APEX.
This type install is rock solid, once its done. But its a pain working with 
Fan-out kits on a windy dirty roof. (If on a tower should probably be done 
on ground first, but on roofs it would not fit through access holes in walls 
and such)

There is also indoor/outdoor Fiber that has an overall outer layer, and then 
each inner layer also has its own individual outer jacket. This type cable 
is cheaper, and can have LC connector connected directly to it, without the 
hassle of a Fanout kit. This cable is also significantly thinner, and can 
fit through APEX passthrough. In these cases, the cable can be run directly 
into the APEX without any junctions inbetween.

We always run Fiber that has two pair (two tx and two rx) so if one fiber 
breaks, there is an immediate spare. There is room to slip both pair with 
conectors inside the APEX, I think.

It should be noted that Indoor and Outdoor fiber are not the same. It is not 
just to prevent physical breaks from getting stepped on, or Firecode/UV of 
sleeve. The mor important issue is that it has a different Temperature 
rating for Cold.  If you use indoor fiber outdoor in cold, it can crack 
internally due to cold. It should be noted that allthough Outdoor fiber and 
Fan-out kits will often have a different part number for its outdoor temp 
rated version. But most patch panels and stuff wont have an outdoor temp 
version.

So, fo this reason, sometimes people perfer to put the fiber inside Flex, so 
its one more level of temperature insulation. Actually we use something 
called Liqui-tight, the grey stuff tthat can be bought just about anyware 
like HomeDepot.

We debated for quite a while, whether we should use sealed FC type 
connectors inside the outdoor enclosure. The outcome was LC patch panels 
were easier to find, and LC patch panels will survive the elements just fine 
in most cases.

As well, its also possible to run long fan outkits, and just run the thin 
inner fibers up through the 3ft of Liqui-tight to the APEX. That will 
survive the elements, if using outdoor temp version. BUT we chose NOT to do 
that because we were afraid that if we performed maintenance and needed to 
disconnect the fiber from the APEX, that the weight of the liqui-tight might 
break the fiber or pull loose from connector, if not careful.
That is why we used a patch panel inside the Junction box, and patch cables 
to the APEX.

We rarely ever run Conduit the whole fiber cable path, its to much of a 
pain. We'd rather use a fiber cable that is of a type that wont easilly 
break. But depending on your install location, you may disagree for your 
situation.  But if you use conduit for the run,  we recommend Liqui-tight, 
its not all that expensive and is easy to run, because you just carry it up 
in the spool.

If you are worried about water intrusion, but dont want to use conduit, you 
can just cut a 6-10" peice of liquitight and screw that to the APEX base 
plate. (They make adapter to integrate to that size I think)

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: "Randy Cosby" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 11:04 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Trango Apex Fiber port


> Just put up our first Apex 11Ghz link.  Wondering what everyone does to
> seal up that port.  The manual says you have to hook up the fiber /
> power port to metal conduit.  Do you run conduit all the way back to the
> base?  Do you just use a short piece? Do you put a compression fitting
> on the end?  Use flex?  Just curious.
>
> I used 

Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex Fiber port

[Cameron Kilton]

If you have pictures of your install, or anybody for that matter, I'm
sure we all would be interested in seeing them. I like seeing other
ideas that make my life easier...

-Cameron

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Brad Belton
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 11:41 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex Fiber port

Fortunately all our Apex installations have had relatively short cable
runs,
so haven't used the fiber port yet.  I agree the execution of this port
is
poor at best.  I really don't care for the copper Ethernet ports either
as
they do not have a large enough opening for the shielded outdoor cable
we
run.

I would run a short piece of weather tight flex conduit from the radio
to a
NEMA enclosure and then continue the cable run from that point.  We've
done
this with our BridgeWave installations.

I'd still like to see pictures or hear what you ended up doing.

Best,


Brad

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Randy Cosby
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 10:05 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Trango Apex Fiber port

Just put up our first Apex 11Ghz link.  Wondering what everyone does to 
seal up that port.  The manual says you have to hook up the fiber / 
power port to metal conduit.  Do you run conduit all the way back to the

base?  Do you just use a short piece? Do you put a compression fitting 
on the end?  Use flex?  Just curious.

I used a threaded metal 3/4" sweep 90, then capped it off with a Trango 
AP compression fitting.  It's a little heavy though, and I worry about 
the little screws that hold the 3/4" threaded base plate getting 
stripped out.

-- 
Randy Cosby
Vice President
InfoWest, Inc

435-674-0165 x 2010

http://www.infowest.com/

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Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex Fiber port

[Brad Belton]

Fortunately all our Apex installations have had relatively short cable runs,
so haven't used the fiber port yet.  I agree the execution of this port is
poor at best.  I really don't care for the copper Ethernet ports either as
they do not have a large enough opening for the shielded outdoor cable we
run.

I would run a short piece of weather tight flex conduit from the radio to a
NEMA enclosure and then continue the cable run from that point.  We've done
this with our BridgeWave installations.

I'd still like to see pictures or hear what you ended up doing.

Best,


Brad

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Randy Cosby
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 10:05 AM
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Subject: [WISPA] Trango Apex Fiber port

Just put up our first Apex 11Ghz link.  Wondering what everyone does to 
seal up that port.  The manual says you have to hook up the fiber / 
power port to metal conduit.  Do you run conduit all the way back to the 
base?  Do you just use a short piece? Do you put a compression fitting 
on the end?  Use flex?  Just curious.

I used a threaded metal 3/4" sweep 90, then capped it off with a Trango 
AP compression fitting.  It's a little heavy though, and I worry about 
the little screws that hold the 3/4" threaded base plate getting 
stripped out.

-- 
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Vice President
InfoWest, Inc

435-674-0165 x 2010

http://www.infowest.com/

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Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga Microwave

[Kevin Lamothe]

Trango just recently released fw 2.4.2 which fixes this problem 
according to their engineering team.

Gino Villarini wrote:
> We are seeing the same issue on a 18 ghz Giga, rf link is great, no
> traffic.  We need to physically reboot one end, software reboot wont fix
> it.  Happens once per month ...
>
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> Behalf Of Kevin Lamothe
> Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 8:10 AM
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> Subject: [WISPA] Trango Giga Microwave
>
> Has anyone had any experience with this product?
>
> We have the latest firmware from Trango and are still experiencing the 
> same problem.
>
> After being online for a few weeks, our link starts to get packet loss 
> then it won't transfer any traffic at all without a power cycle of both 
> ends, the odd thing is that there's still a link between the two
> microwaves.
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Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga Microwave

[can...@believewireless.net]

We had a problem during storms with one link where the link would show
as up but wouldn't pass traffic.  Turned out to be a mis-matched ODU
firmware.  2.3.9 doesn't auto rateshift back up but was pretty stable.
 2.4.0 can have the interface lock up but still pass traffic.  2.4.1
doesn't have the interface lock up but it loses the auto rateshift
back up.

So, check your firmware and make sure it has the same version on both
sides.  We had an Apex link that wouldn't pass traffic if we upgraded
one side and not the other.  So, it seems very critical to have
everything identical on both ends.

On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 8:09 AM, Kevin Lamothe wrote:
> Has anyone had any experience with this product?
>
> We have the latest firmware from Trango and are still experiencing the
> same problem.
>
> After being online for a few weeks, our link starts to get packet loss
> then it won't transfer any traffic at all without a power cycle of both
> ends, the odd thing is that there's still a link between the two microwaves.
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Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga Microwave

[Gino Villarini]

We are seeing the same issue on a 18 ghz Giga, rf link is great, no
traffic.  We need to physically reboot one end, software reboot wont fix
it.  Happens once per month ...

Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145

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Behalf Of Kevin Lamothe
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 8:10 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Trango Giga Microwave

Has anyone had any experience with this product?

We have the latest firmware from Trango and are still experiencing the 
same problem.

After being online for a few weeks, our link starts to get packet loss 
then it won't transfer any traffic at all without a power cycle of both 
ends, the odd thing is that there's still a link between the two
microwaves.




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Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga Problem

[Gino Villarini]

Tom

Great Piece of info,  I was able to lower my channel size from 40 to 10,
I lowered my modulation to qpsk, disabled all auto features and set the
power to 10 db

This are my numbers now: (similar on both ends)

(trango-config)# linktest 10
LOCK   RSSI  MSEBER
  1> 1  -36.00 dBm  -34.57 dB   0.00E+00
  2> 1  -36.00 dBm  -34.57 dB   0.00E+00
  3> 1  -36.00 dBm  -34.60 dB   0.00E+00
  4> 1  -36.00 dBm  -34.63 dB   0.00E+00
  5> 1  -36.00 dBm  -34.52 dB   0.00E+00
  6> 1  -36.00 dBm  -34.56 dB   0.00E+00
  7> 1  -36.00 dBm  -34.53 dB   0.00E+00
  8> 1  -36.00 dBm  -34.60 dB   0.00E+00
  9> 1  -36.00 dBm  -34.55 dB   0.00E+00
 10> 1  -36.00 dBm  -34.63 dB   0.00E+00
(trango-config)# 

I'll start upping modulation and channel size and confirm where I start
to have problems, anyone thinks this is interference?

BTW: what (HI)  means:

65> 1  -37.00 dBm (HI)  -34.31 dB  0.00E+00


Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 1:25 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga Problem

Trango is not clear on the algorythm's exact details they use to
calculate MSE.  (I personally believe that is intentional, as it is
sorta like a proprietary trade secret, but nobody has said that).
What we do know is MSE is the method to evaluated link quality and noise
via a single parameter value, to make it easy.
The point that I am making is... We should not automatically assume the
problem is correctable by radio settings, or possibly assume problem
with a radio. Our experience has shown the opposite.
Nor should we assume the answer is APEX, when a Giga gets a low MSE.
Travis is right about the Apex being a fine radio with excellent value,
probably a first choice for many, but there are still many reasons where
a Giga is more appropriate to use, and Giga still offers excellent
value, and reliable operation.

If the MSE is low, (below 32), then there is usually a problem needing
addressed. It can be... 1) an antenna moving out of alignment. Note that
misalignment may not always reflect itself via lost RSSI, but could also
result in picking up more interference or multi-path in some cases,
causing degrated MSE.  2) new noise.

The first step for troubleshooting, is to disable every advanced feature
like AGC, ATPC, Auto Modulation Adjust. Hard set  Transmit power and
Modulation to a "conservative" level. That means lower modulation, and
that means also slightly lower power, just to rule out
transmitter/receive overload, even though at the expense that maybe your
RSSI might now be closer to the suspect noise.
Also shrink your channel size.  If you have a 40Mhz channel, switch to
using only 10-20Mhz, to again create more isolation from adjacent
channel noise. 
Sure all these things would take time, and result in short downtime,
when radios reconfigured for this. But they are ways to isolate
noise Before suspecting a Radio itself or incurring any large cost,
like a tower climb, radio repurchase, or a New Freq Coord.

There are a couple of ways Noise could be generated by others, even if
they responisbly did Freq Coords. For example, what if they got a
Verticle Pol Freq Coord, but the installer got confused and accidentally
mounted in Horizontal Pol, thinking they were on their allocated
channel, but actually they weren't?  And also double check that your
installer did not make that mistake.

Brad made a good point, that it should not be a "first" choice to change
Channels, as that could cause interference with another Licensee. I'd
explore all other options first. The ethical thing todo would  be to
determine what channel is still free from your Freq Coordinator, prior
to doing that.  I made the suggestion based on... I had multiple links
on thesame path, so I could turn down the other link, to borrow the
cahannel for testing.

That may not be as expensive or hard as some think. For example, when
you get your Freq Coord, they "may" deterine 1 or 2 free channels, so
there is a backup channel, in case there was an objection during the PON
process for the first one selected (Its easier to assign a different
channel, that to negotiate a dispute, and easier to get more info in the
original freq Coord, than go back later to repeat it.). So they "may"
already have a record of additional unused channels, or for that matter
ones that were not free to avoid. They also have a record of any newer
PONs that were sent out in your area. So if no new PONs were sent, the
old Freq Cord info would still be relevent and a

Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga Problem

[Tom DeReggi]

Trango is not clear on the algorythm's exact details they use to calculate 
MSE.  (I personally believe that is intentional, as it is sorta like a 
proprietary trade secret, but nobody has said that).
What we do know is MSE is the method to evaluated link quality and noise via 
a single parameter value, to make it easy.
The point that I am making is... We should not automatically assume the 
problem is correctable by radio settings, or possibly assume problem with a 
radio. Our experience has shown the opposite.
Nor should we assume the answer is APEX, when a Giga gets a low MSE.
Travis is right about the Apex being a fine radio with excellent value, 
probably a first choice for many, but there are still many reasons where a 
Giga is more appropriate to use, and Giga still offers excellent value, and 
reliable operation.

If the MSE is low, (below 32), then there is usually a problem needing 
addressed. It can be... 1) an antenna moving out of alignment. Note that 
misalignment may not always reflect itself via lost RSSI, but could also 
result in picking up more interference or multi-path in some cases, causing 
degrated MSE.  2) new noise.

The first step for troubleshooting, is to disable every advanced feature 
like AGC, ATPC, Auto Modulation Adjust. Hard set  Transmit power and 
Modulation to a "conservative" level. That means lower modulation, and that 
means also slightly lower power, just to rule out transmitter/receive 
overload, even though at the expense that maybe your RSSI might now be 
closer to the suspect noise.
Also shrink your channel size.  If you have a 40Mhz channel, switch to using 
only 10-20Mhz, to again create more isolation from adjacent channel noise. 
Sure all these things would take time, and result in short downtime, when 
radios reconfigured for this. But they are ways to isolate noise Before 
suspecting a Radio itself or incurring any large cost, like a tower climb, 
radio repurchase, or a New Freq Coord.

There are a couple of ways Noise could be generated by others, even if they 
responisbly did Freq Coords. For example, what if they got a Verticle Pol 
Freq Coord, but the installer got confused and accidentally mounted in 
Horizontal Pol, thinking they were on their allocated channel, but actually 
they weren't?  And also double check that your installer did not make that 
mistake.

Brad made a good point, that it should not be a "first" choice to change 
Channels, as that could cause interference with another Licensee. I'd 
explore all other options first. The ethical thing todo would  be to 
determine what channel is still free from your Freq Coordinator, prior to 
doing that.  I made the suggestion based on... I had multiple links on 
thesame path, so I could turn down the other link, to borrow the cahannel 
for testing.

That may not be as expensive or hard as some think. For example, when you 
get your Freq Coord, they "may" deterine 1 or 2 free channels, so there is a 
backup channel, in case there was an objection during the PON process for 
the first one selected (Its easier to assign a different channel, that to 
negotiate a dispute, and easier to get more info in the original freq Coord, 
than go back later to repeat it.). So they "may" already have a record of 
additional unused channels, or for that matter ones that were not free to 
avoid. They also have a record of any newer PONs that were sent out in your 
area. So if no new PONs were sent, the old Freq Cord info would still be 
relevent and accurate.

We also found that at the higher freqs, loss is not always symetrical, 
dependant on misalignment of one side. With 2 degree beamwidths it can be 
hard to tell if a antenna moved visually. For example, in one of our 
cases... We took great care to inspect the antenna mount to the pole, 
because we mounted to less than 4" dia pole, and wanted to make sure it was 
secure for long term. But we forgot to inspect the mounts holding the pole 
to the super structure. And as it turned out, it was the pole itself that 
moved.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: "Gino Villarini" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 12:26 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga Problem


> Travis,
>
> I assume the Apex Calculates the MSE, and you dont have to input any
> cable loss figures 
>
> Got the Apex Manual handy that you can send offlist?,
>
> thanks
>
>
> Gino A. Villarini
> g...@aeronetpr.com
> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
>
>
>
> 
>
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Travis Johnson
> Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 12:17 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga Problem
>
>

Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga Problem

[Brad Belton]

Hey Travis,

 

Interesting information regarding the Apex.  I assumed it only had the PoE
port and the SFP port.  So, are you saying it has two PoE ports and the SFP
port?

 

I guess I need a copy of the Apex manual as well and do some reading.  Go
ahead and send it to me if you have it handy.  We've got four Apex's coming
and another 6GHz Giga on the way.  Hopefully John will get them to us by end
of next week.  

 

Agreed the Apex looks to be a nice radio.we were attracted to the slightly
higher throughput numbers the Apex claims over the Giga, but there are still
many cases where the Giga makes a lot more sense due to the flexibility the
Giga IDU offers.  We're very happy Trango offers both products.  

 

Best,

 

 

Brad

 

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 11:17 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga Problem

 

Brad,

We put 3 Apex units up about 4 months ago. They are basically the same as
the Giga, with only a few minor differences. The only frustrating part for
us was having to run two CAT5 cables (one for transport, one for
management). We had to do that because we don't use VLANs, and that's the
only way to do in-band management on the transport interface. It wasn't a
huge deal (and could actually come in handy later, because you can run the
PoE over either cable, or over both to have redundancy).

The coolest option was using the GBIC module to run fiber for the transport.
It ended up costing about $300 more per radio for the module and the custom
made fiber cable (outdoor rated, etc) but it has been a life saver at one of
our FM station repeaters.

We will probably be ordering more APEX units this summer to upgrade some of
our backhauls that are needing more bandwidth. I don't see why anyone would
use anything else when you can get a complete link (including all FCC
licensing) for around $11,500. :)

Travis
Microserv

Brad Belton wrote: 

It's just how Trango designed the Giga.  As I mentioned in an off list
email, the "modem" that calculates the Giga's RSSI is located in the IDU and
not the ODU.  This is why the IF cable is so critical with the Giga.  There
were/are reasons why Trango designed the Giga this way (regarding future
product enhancements utilizing multiple "modems" in the IDU for greater
throughput capacity), but it would be best that you take it up with Trango
if you are interested in that.
 
You need to know what your expected RSSI for the path is supposed to be.
That doesn't mean the link will always end up there, but it gives you a
starting point.  For example we have a link that one end is behind a metal
based glass.  That link is about 10db off from expected RSSI due to the
glass attenuation.  Once we accounted for this by adjusting our target rssi
we have a much more solid link.
 
The bottom line is, while it may be frustrating for the first time Giga user
to get their initial Giga up and running the Giga has proven itself as a
solid product.  We have several deployed, continue to order them and have
been pleased with their performance. 
 
Yes, the Apex is an all ODU design and while we haven't deployed an Apex
yet, I understand the configuration is a bit more simple.  We expect to have
a couple Apex's on hand in the next week or two and I'll know a lot more
about the Apex once we have them hung.
 
Best,
 
 
Brad
 
 
 
 
 
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 2:30 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga Problem
 
That's why I asked, it doesn't completely explain how it works, for
example
 
Rssi on end 1 is -39 , mse is -30 targetrssi is -39
 
Why in the heck if I change the target rssi to -35, the "real rssi
changes too??? To -35 ...?!?!?! MSE still is -30
 
I have not changed the power on the other end and atpc is off ...wtf? 
 
BTW: The Apex being an all outdoor unit, it's the same? Got the Apex
user manual handy?
 
Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
 
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Brad Belton
Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 11:03 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga Problem
 
MSE concept explained on Page 18 of the manual or page 20 of this pdf...
 
How is the link looking now after adjusting power, target rssi and cable
loss settings?
 
 
Best,
 
 
Brad
 
 
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 8:39 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga Problem
 
How the mse would show interference

Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga Problem

[Gino Villarini]

Travis,
 
 I assume the Apex Calculates the MSE, and you dont have to input any
cable loss figures 
 
Got the Apex Manual handy that you can send offlist?,
 
thanks
 

Gino A. Villarini 
g...@aeronetpr.com 
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 
tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145 

 



From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 12:17 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga Problem


Brad,

We put 3 Apex units up about 4 months ago. They are basically the same
as the Giga, with only a few minor differences. The only frustrating
part for us was having to run two CAT5 cables (one for transport, one
for management). We had to do that because we don't use VLANs, and
that's the only way to do in-band management on the transport interface.
It wasn't a huge deal (and could actually come in handy later, because
you can run the PoE over either cable, or over both to have redundancy).

The coolest option was using the GBIC module to run fiber for the
transport. It ended up costing about $300 more per radio for the module
and the custom made fiber cable (outdoor rated, etc) but it has been a
life saver at one of our FM station repeaters.

We will probably be ordering more APEX units this summer to upgrade some
of our backhauls that are needing more bandwidth. I don't see why anyone
would use anything else when you can get a complete link (including all
FCC licensing) for around $11,500. :)

Travis
Microserv

Brad Belton wrote: 

It's just how Trango designed the Giga.  As I mentioned in an
off list
email, the "modem" that calculates the Giga's RSSI is located in
the IDU and
not the ODU.  This is why the IF cable is so critical with the
Giga.  There
were/are reasons why Trango designed the Giga this way
(regarding future
product enhancements utilizing multiple "modems" in the IDU for
greater
throughput capacity), but it would be best that you take it up
with Trango
if you are interested in that.

You need to know what your expected RSSI for the path is
supposed to be.
That doesn't mean the link will always end up there, but it
gives you a
starting point.  For example we have a link that one end is
behind a metal
based glass.  That link is about 10db off from expected RSSI due
to the
glass attenuation.  Once we accounted for this by adjusting our
target rssi
we have a much more solid link.

The bottom line is, while it may be frustrating for the first
time Giga user
to get their initial Giga up and running the Giga has proven
itself as a
solid product.  We have several deployed, continue to order them
and have
been pleased with their performance. 

Yes, the Apex is an all ODU design and while we haven't deployed
an Apex
yet, I understand the configuration is a bit more simple.  We
expect to have
a couple Apex's on hand in the next week or two and I'll know a
lot more
about the Apex once we have them hung.

Best,


Brad





-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 2:30 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga Problem

That's why I asked, it doesn't completely explain how it works,
for
example

Rssi on end 1 is -39 , mse is -30 targetrssi is -39

Why in the heck if I change the target rssi to -35, the "real
rssi
changes too??? To -35 ...?!?!?! MSE still is -30

I have not changed the power on the other end and atpc is off
...wtf? 

BTW: The Apex being an all outdoor unit, it's the same? Got the
Apex
user manual handy?

Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Brad Belton
Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 11:03 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga Problem

MSE concept explained on Page 18 of the manual or page 20 of
this pdf...

How is the link looking now after adjusting power, target rssi
and cable
loss settings?


Best,


Brad


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 

Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga Problem

[Travis Johnson]

Brad,

We put 3 Apex units up about 4 months ago. They are basically the same
as the Giga, with only a few minor differences. The only frustrating
part for us was having to run two CAT5 cables (one for transport, one
for management). We had to do that because we don't use VLANs, and
that's the only way to do in-band management on the transport
interface. It wasn't a huge deal (and could actually come in handy
later, because you can run the PoE over either cable, or over both to
have redundancy).

The coolest option was using the GBIC module to run fiber for the
transport. It ended up costing about $300 more per radio for the module
and the custom made fiber cable (outdoor rated, etc) but it has been a
life saver at one of our FM station repeaters.

We will probably be ordering more APEX units this summer to upgrade
some of our backhauls that are needing more bandwidth. I don't see why
anyone would use anything else when you can get a complete link
(including all FCC licensing) for around $11,500. :)

Travis
Microserv

Brad Belton wrote:

  It's just how Trango designed the Giga.  As I mentioned in an off list
email, the "modem" that calculates the Giga's RSSI is located in the IDU and
not the ODU.  This is why the IF cable is so critical with the Giga.  There
were/are reasons why Trango designed the Giga this way (regarding future
product enhancements utilizing multiple "modems" in the IDU for greater
throughput capacity), but it would be best that you take it up with Trango
if you are interested in that.

You need to know what your expected RSSI for the path is supposed to be.
That doesn't mean the link will always end up there, but it gives you a
starting point.  For example we have a link that one end is behind a metal
based glass.  That link is about 10db off from expected RSSI due to the
glass attenuation.  Once we accounted for this by adjusting our target rssi
we have a much more solid link.

The bottom line is, while it may be frustrating for the first time Giga user
to get their initial Giga up and running the Giga has proven itself as a
solid product.  We have several deployed, continue to order them and have
been pleased with their performance. 

Yes, the Apex is an all ODU design and while we haven't deployed an Apex
yet, I understand the configuration is a bit more simple.  We expect to have
a couple Apex's on hand in the next week or two and I'll know a lot more
about the Apex once we have them hung.

Best,


Brad





-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 2:30 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga Problem

That's why I asked, it doesn't completely explain how it works, for
example

Rssi on end 1 is -39 , mse is -30 targetrssi is -39

Why in the heck if I change the target rssi to -35, the "real rssi
changes too??? To -35 ...?!?!?! MSE still is -30

I have not changed the power on the other end and atpc is off ...wtf? 

BTW: The Apex being an all outdoor unit, it's the same? Got the Apex
user manual handy?

Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Brad Belton
Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 11:03 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga Problem

MSE concept explained on Page 18 of the manual or page 20 of this pdf...

How is the link looking now after adjusting power, target rssi and cable
loss settings?


Best,


Brad


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 8:39 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga Problem

How the mse would show interference? 


Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 7:41 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga Problem

Also, don't assume its not interference. Licensed gets interference to.
If your MSE is showing Interference its very possible that is exactly
what you are having.
You may need to briefly/temporarilly change channels to verifiy.


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message -----
From: "Brad Belton" 
To: "'WISPA General List'" 
Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 2:47 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga Problem


  
  
Going to need lots more info to be able to help.

Cable run length and type of cable used.
What is your expected RSSI per your path analysis What is yo

Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga Problem

[Brad Belton]

It's just how Trango designed the Giga.  As I mentioned in an off list
email, the "modem" that calculates the Giga's RSSI is located in the IDU and
not the ODU.  This is why the IF cable is so critical with the Giga.  There
were/are reasons why Trango designed the Giga this way (regarding future
product enhancements utilizing multiple "modems" in the IDU for greater
throughput capacity), but it would be best that you take it up with Trango
if you are interested in that.

You need to know what your expected RSSI for the path is supposed to be.
That doesn't mean the link will always end up there, but it gives you a
starting point.  For example we have a link that one end is behind a metal
based glass.  That link is about 10db off from expected RSSI due to the
glass attenuation.  Once we accounted for this by adjusting our target rssi
we have a much more solid link.

The bottom line is, while it may be frustrating for the first time Giga user
to get their initial Giga up and running the Giga has proven itself as a
solid product.  We have several deployed, continue to order them and have
been pleased with their performance. 

Yes, the Apex is an all ODU design and while we haven't deployed an Apex
yet, I understand the configuration is a bit more simple.  We expect to have
a couple Apex's on hand in the next week or two and I'll know a lot more
about the Apex once we have them hung.

Best,


Brad





-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 2:30 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga Problem

That's why I asked, it doesn't completely explain how it works, for
example

Rssi on end 1 is -39 , mse is -30 targetrssi is -39

Why in the heck if I change the target rssi to -35, the "real rssi
changes too??? To -35 ...?!?!?! MSE still is -30

I have not changed the power on the other end and atpc is off ...wtf? 

BTW: The Apex being an all outdoor unit, it's the same? Got the Apex
user manual handy?

Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Brad Belton
Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 11:03 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga Problem

MSE concept explained on Page 18 of the manual or page 20 of this pdf...

How is the link looking now after adjusting power, target rssi and cable
loss settings?


Best,


Brad


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 8:39 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga Problem

How the mse would show interference? 


Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 7:41 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga Problem

Also, don't assume its not interference. Licensed gets interference to.
If your MSE is showing Interference its very possible that is exactly
what you are having.
You may need to briefly/temporarilly change channels to verifiy.


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message -
From: "Brad Belton" 
To: "'WISPA General List'" 
Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 2:47 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga Problem


> Going to need lots more info to be able to help.
>
> Cable run length and type of cable used.
> What is your expected RSSI per your path analysis What is your 
> targetrssi set to What are your cableloss settings What is your power 
> set to Run a link 10 command from both sides and provide results What 
> version software are you running on both sides
>
> Maybe the best thing to do is run a sysinfo command on both ends and
send 
> me
> the results off list.
>
> Best,
>
>
> Brad
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On
> Behalf Of Gino Villarini
> Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 1:38 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: [WISPA] Trango Giga Problem
>
> I have a 2 mile 18 ghz link using Trango Giga, Im starting to drop 
> packets, auto rate has dropped speed to qpsk, still MSE and BER is
being
> affected sometimes on one end or both ...ATPC is on, rssi is -35 on
both
> ends
>
> anyway to tell where the problem is?
>
>
> Gino A. Villarini
> g...@aeronetpr.c