[xul-talk] Tech Press Comments on XAML and Xamlon

2004-10-04 Thread Gerald Bauer
netnews.com/dev-news/article.php/3416551 What's your take? Are you ready to jump on the XAML bandwagon? Do you think Xamlon can beat Microsoft? - Gerald --- Gerald Bauer Rich Client Conference (RichCon) 2005 - http://richcon.com XUL News Wire - http://xulnews.com

[xul-talk] The Web as Platform - Central, Web Start, Mozilla/XUL, Avalon/XAML, SVG+XBL, WHATTF?

2004-10-01 Thread Gerald Bauer
ver achieve its full potential as an applicaton platform. Source: http://webstandards.org/buzz/archive/2004_10.html#a000450 What's your take? Whose horse do you bet on? - Gerald ------- Gerald Bauer Rich Client Conference (RichCon) 2005 - http://richcon.com XUL News

Re: [xul-talk] document in firefox extensions

2004-09-25 Thread Gerald Bauer
out general & interop discussions touching more than one XUL/XUI/XAML/XForms motor/browser/runtime/player/etc. - Gerald ------- Gerald Bauer Rich Client Conference (RichCon) 2005 - http://richcon.com XUL News Wire - htt

[xul-talk] gbrowser.com - Google Registers Domain For Its Own Browser

2004-09-23 Thread Gerald Bauer
Source: http://www.kottke.org/04/09/more-google-browser - Gerald ------- Gerald Bauer Rich Client Conference (RichCon) 2005 - http://richcon.com XUL News Wire - http://xulnews.com --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Y

[xul-talk] Google Prepares To Launch Its Own XUL Browser - GBrowser

2004-09-23 Thread Gerald Bauer
your take? Is the browser war heating up? This time its Google vs. Microsoft? Is Google the new Netscape? Will Yahoo follow? Will we see a Y!Browser? - Gerald Gerald Bauer Lopica - All Things Web Start | http://lopica.sourceforge.net Web Start Forum | http://webstar

[xul-talk] Google Unveils XUL Search Page - Comments?

2004-09-23 Thread Gerald Bauer
Hello, You can now search Google using a XUL search page. See http://www.google.com/mozilla/google.xul for details. - Gerald --- Gerald Bauer Rich Client Conference (RichCon) 2005 - http://richcon.com XUL News Wire - http://xulnews.com

[xul-talk] Microsofts Drops Avalon From Windows 2007/Longhorn? Is MS-XAML Dead?

2004-09-22 Thread Gerald Bauer
ithout Avalon - the next-gen graphics engine for Windows 2007/8/9? Will MyXAML fill the void? - Gerald --- Gerald Bauer Rich Client Conference (RichCon) 2005 - http://richcon.com XUL News Wire - http://xulnews.com -

[xul-talk] Diving Into XAML - Xamlon vs. MyXAML

2004-09-20 Thread Gerald Bauer
s such a common application that everybody wants. I may have missed a thing or two, these are just first impressions from a fairly experienced programmer getting his feet wet with XAML. Martin. What's your take? Do you prefer MyXAML over Xamlon? Has anyone tried out Xamlon or MyXAML? Wha

[xul-talk] XUL Titan Interview Series - Fall Season Upcoming - Comments?

2004-09-11 Thread Gerald Bauer
erald --- Gerald Bauer Rich Client Conference (RichCon) 2005 - http://richcon.com --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: YOU BE THE JUDGE. Be one of 170 Project Admins to receive an Apple iPod Mini FREE for your judgement on who

[xul-talk] XForms Links, Links, Links - Free Books And Much More

2004-08-23 Thread Gerald Bauer
http://www.codeproject.com/html/fP-and-weather-ws.asp * XForms: XML Powered Web Forms by T. V. Raman http://safariexamples.informit.com/0321154991/book.html * XForms At A Glance http://almaden.ibm.com/u/tvraman/xforms/glance.pdf - Gerald Gerald Bauer Lopica - All Thing

[xul-talk] Let's Welcome CookXML/CookSwing, Keystone and Xulender

2004-08-22 Thread Gerald Bauer
Hello, Just to let you know I've added the CookXML/CookSwing, Keystone and Xulender projects to the XUL Alliance frontpage. If you want to see any other projects added, please let me know. More @ http://xulalliance.org - Gerald --- Gerald Bauer XUL Alliance |

[xul-talk] XForms Links, Links, Links - First Draft Online

2004-08-19 Thread Gerald Bauer
.html for details. If you know of any good XForms links that are missing, please let me know. - Gerald --- Gerald Bauer XUL Alliance | http://xul.sourceforge.net United XAML | http://xaml.sourceforge.net Interested in hiring Gerald Bauer? Yes, I'm available. If y

Re: [xul-talk] Discussion Spotlight: Link Errata

2004-08-18 Thread Gerald Bauer
Hello, Sorry, for some reason the link to the ongoing discussion on the Server Side was cut short (e.g. missing that last digit in 2813). Here's the working link: http://www.theserverside.com/news/thread.tss?thread_id=28136 - Gerald --- Gerald Bauer Thinlet Devel

[xul-talk] Discussion Spotlight: Rich Internet Applications Article and Discussion on TSS

2004-08-18 Thread Gerald Bauer
13 - Gerald ------- Gerald Bauer XUL Alliance | http://xul.sourceforge.net United XAML | http://xaml.sourceforge.net Interested in hiring Gerald Bauer? Yes, I'm available. If you know of an opportunity in Toronto or Vancouver, ple

[xul-talk] Is the Windows 2009/Avalon XAML Format Extensible or Versionable?

2004-08-15 Thread Gerald Bauer
valon XAML format is extensible or versionable or do you think that the Windows 2009/Avalon XAML format is bound so tightly to the Windows 2009/Avalon API that it's not really a free-standing extensible and versionable XML format but just a XML dump. Any thoughts? Any comments? - Gerald ---

[xul-talk] Discussion Spotlight: XUL at the Server Side (TSS)

2004-08-13 Thread Gerald Bauer
Open yourself. More @ http://www.theserverside.com/news/thread.tss?thread_id=28029 What's your take on the diversity of XML UI language formats? Is it a strength or a weakness? --- Gerald Bauer XUL Alliance | http://xul.sourceforge.net United XAML |

[xul-talk] Brendan Eich (Mozilla Chief Architect) on the optional W3C XForms addon for Mozilla

2004-08-11 Thread Gerald Bauer
n it? Do you want to see W3C XForms support builtin or is a one-click download-and-install optional package good enough? Any thoughts? Any comments? - Gerald ------- Gerald Bauer XUL Alliance | http://xul.sourceforge.net United XAML | http://xaml.sourceforge.net Interested in

Re: [xul-talk] WHAT WG Spokesman Declares Mozilla XUL a proprietary language - Comments?

2004-08-11 Thread Gerald Bauer
mple Windows that the word has somehow lost its meaning. - Gerald --- Gerald Bauer XUL Alliance | http://xul.sourceforge.net United XAML | http://xaml.sourceforge.net Interested in hiring Gerald Bauer? Yes, I'm available. If you know of an opportunity in Toronto or

[xul-talk] WHAT WG Spokesman Declares Mozilla XUL a proprietary language - Comments?

2004-08-11 Thread Gerald Bauer
tandard" and language controlled by a single vendor? - Gerald PS: I guess Ian cansomehow not bring himself to write XML UI languages instead of UI languages. --- Gerald Bauer XUL Alliance | http://xul.sourceforge.net United XAML | http://xaml.sourceforge.net Interested

[xul-talk] How can I create Eclipse UIs using XML?

2004-08-10 Thread Gerald Bauer
o you know of any others? Has anyone tried out any of the XML UI offerings for Eclipse? Let us know what you think. Any thoughts and comments are welcome. - Gerald (*) Disclaimer: I created the Luxor XUL SWT prototype last winter. --- Gerald Bauer XUL Alliance |

[xul-talk] Mono/Gtk#/MyXAML - Anyone Tried It Out?

2004-08-10 Thread Gerald Bauer
box); vbox.PackStart(button, false, false, 12); window.Add(vbox); window.SetDefaultSize(200, 100); Any thoughts? Any comments? - Gerald --- Gerald Bauer XUL Alliance | http://xul.sourceforge.net United XAML | http://xaml.sourceforge.net Interested in hiring G

Re: [xul-talk] Can XUL do this?

2004-08-10 Thread Gerald Bauer
a as its HTML browser widget under Linux.) - Gerald --- Gerald Bauer XUL Alliance | http://xul.sourceforge.net United XAML | http://xaml.sourceforge.net Interested in hiring Gerald Bauer? Yes, I'm available. If you know of an opportunity in Toronto or Vancouve

[xul-talk] Using Non-XML Compact Syntax Alternatives for Your UI Markup

2004-08-04 Thread Gerald Bauer
e more than welcome. Also note that I stress XML in the UI language because XML at its best is vendor neutral, language independent and operating system independent. Also XML at its best is just data and thus clearly separates the code from the markup in contrast to lets say Java, C# or Tcl/Tk.

[xul-talk] Re: Is WAML the new XUL/XAML?

2004-08-03 Thread Gerald Bauer
Hello Matthew, since you're now a regular contributor on xul-talk may I ask you to introduce yourself to give us a better picture of where are you coming from and what's your interest in XML for creating UIs. - Gerald ------- Gerald Bauer XUL Allia

Re: [xul-talk] Is WAML the new XUL/XAML?

2004-08-03 Thread Gerald Bauer
> of HTML. The idea is that HTML itself will become > more like a basic XUIL. Well, Opera and Mozilla *hope* that WHATWG WAML will be part of the next version of HTML. As far as I know the W3C is the steward of HTML and so far hasn't endorsed the renegade WHAT WG and their redefiniti

[xul-talk] Is WAML the new XUL/XAML?

2004-08-03 Thread Gerald Bauer
ish Tags") -- highlighting one minor aspect of the language to the exclusion of others. Source: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.org.w3c.whatwg.discuss/1449 Hear. Hear. Wasn't Mr. Ian "Hixie" Hickson the leading advocate for using the XUIL acronym here on xul-talk? Is WA

[xul-talk] Choosing a UI Markup Language by Vik David

2004-08-02 Thread Gerald Bauer
ee how they intend to compete with Java's benefits. Source: http://vikdavid.typepad.com/fairbiased/2004/08/markup_language.html Do you agree with Vik's analysis? Has Vik missed out on something? Do you have any advice for Vik? Let us know what you think. - Gerald ---

[xul-talk] XUL Challenge Update: Let's Welcome UIML.NET

2004-08-02 Thread Gerald Bauer
hours @ http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/xul/challenge (look for the uiml-net folder). - Gerald --- Gerald Bauer XUL Alliance | http://xul.sourceforge.net United XAML | http://xaml.sourceforge.net Interested in hiring Gerald Bauer? Yes, I'm available. If you

[xul-talk] xThoth Parser - XAML for Flash Upcoming?

2004-07-31 Thread Gerald Bauer
e0.69.html ------- Gerald Bauer XUL Alliance | http://xul.sourceforge.net United XAML | http://xaml.sourceforge.net Interested in hiring Gerald Bauer? Yes, I'm available. If you know of an opportunity in Toronto or Vancouver, please c

[xul-talk] JT Paasch reports on Renaissance - XUL for GNUStep/Cocoa

2004-07-29 Thread Gerald Bauer
es? - Gerald ------- Gerald Bauer XUL Alliance | http://xul.sourceforge.net United XAML | http://xaml.sourceforge.net Interested in hiring Gerald Bauer? Yes, I'm available. If you know of an opportunity in Toronto or Vancouver, Canada, ple

Re: [xul-talk] Dynamic progress meter

2004-07-21 Thread Gerald Bauer
php-xul - Gerald --- Gerald Bauer XUL Alliance | http://xul.sourceforge.net United XAML | http://xaml.sourceforge.net Interested in hiring Gerald Bauer? Yes, I'm available. If you know of an opportunity, please contact me today. --

[xul-talk] Why Sign Up For XUL Challenge Two?

2004-07-20 Thread Gerald Bauer
//www.clientjava.com/blog/2004/07/19.html If anyone is interested in completing the new weather forecast applet/desklet/widget for your your XUL/XUI/XAML/XML-UI toolkit/parser/player/etc. of choice, please let me know. - Gerald ------- Gerald Bauer XUL Al

[xul-talk] The Ideal Application Architecture - XUL, XAML, WHAT, RCP, W3C XWhatever?

2004-07-19 Thread Gerald Bauer
wers to David's questions? What is your ideal application architecture? - Gerald ------- Gerald Bauer XUL Alliance | http://xul.sourceforge.net United XAML | http://xaml.sourceforge.net Interested in hiring Gerald Bauer? Yes, I'm available. If you know of an opportunity

[xul-talk] Why Use Vexi? Visual, Extensible, XML Interfaces

2004-07-19 Thread Gerald Bauer
Hello, allow me to forward an email by Vexi project lead Charles Goodwin posted to the uuu-devel mailinglist that answers the question why use Vexi in detail. Here we go: Unununium is one of these really interesting projects that I like to monitor (I guess I'm just one of those web junkies)

[xul-talk] Re: [xul-announce] XUL IDE

2004-07-19 Thread Gerald Bauer
t looking for an IDE for Mozilla XUL, please repost your question to the Mozilla XUL mailinglist. See http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mozilla-xul - Gerald ------- Gerald Bauer XUL Alliance | http://xul.sourceforge.net United XAML | http://xaml.sourceforge.net Interested in hir

Re: [xul-talk] Challenge 2004 submissions

2004-07-18 Thread Gerald Bauer
hallenge 2004 is http://xul.sourceforge.net/challenge.html --- Gerald Bauer XUL Alliance | http://xul.sourceforge.net United XAML | http://xaml.sourceforge.net Interested in hiring Gerald Bauer? Yes, I'm available. If you know of an opportunity, please contact me today.

[xul-talk] KDE Developer on XML UI Language Formats - Any Comments?

2004-07-16 Thread Gerald Bauer
ow of any other XML UI language formats in the KDE world? - Gerald --- Gerald Bauer XUL Alliance | http://xul.sourceforge.net United XAML | http://xaml.sourceforge.net Interested in hiring Gerald Bauer? Yes, I'm available.

[xul-talk] Guardian Article: The second browser war - we're rocking like it's 1997.

2004-07-15 Thread Gerald Bauer
3605,1260994,00.html What's your take? Do you think Internet Explorer's market share drop from 95.73% to 94.73% heralds a new browser war? - Gerald --- Gerald Bauer XUL Alliance | http://xul.sourceforge.net United XAML | http://xaml.sourceforge.net Interested in

[xul-talk] XUL Challenge Round Two - The "Is It Hot Or Not" Series - Wiki Page Now Live

2004-07-07 Thread Gerald Bauer
Hello, I've created a Wiki page for the upcoming XUL Challenge Round Two - Weather Web Service Applet (The "Is It Hot Or Not" Series). So far the sign up list includes: * Gerald Bauer - Luxor * Marc Clifton - MyXAML * Pierre Dezon - xWidglets * Son To - Sulu

[xul-talk] David Baron: The W3C Member Companies Conspire to Kill the Web

2004-07-06 Thread Gerald Bauer
is now paralysed by commerical interests and that to move on we need a new forum? Or do you think David Baron is a conspiracy nutcase? - Gerald --- Gerald Bauer XUL Alliance| http://xul.sourceforge.net United XAML | http://xaml.sourceforge.net T

[xul-talk] David Baron's Essay: The Balkanization of the Rich Internet

2004-07-06 Thread Gerald Bauer
all of their requirements (XML, XML namespaces, XPath, XML Schema, XML Events, XLink, etc.) will ever get build before the end of the century? - Gerald --- Gerald Bauer All Things XAML Group | http://groups.yahoo.com/group/xaml-talk MyXAML Developers Group | http://grou

[xul-talk] Ben Cantlon: Start Using XAML Today - Comments?

2004-07-01 Thread Gerald Bauer
Hello, Ben Cantlon - a Xamlon dream team member - writes in a blog story titled "XAML Today": When Longhorn is released, developers and organizations will face a challenge: do we build for Longhorn and sacrifice backward compatibility; do we build for pre-Longhorn versions of Windows and sacr

[xul-talk] David Hyatt on Apple's Upcoming OS X 1.4 Mini-XUL Motor Dashboard

2004-07-01 Thread Gerald Bauer
X) or SuperKaramba (KDE) or gDesklets (Gnome)? - Gerald --- Gerald Bauer XUL Alliance| http://xul.sourceforge.net United XAML | http://xaml.sourceforge.net The Thinlet World | http://thinlet.blog-city.com --- This SF.Net email s

Re: [xul-talk] Using a scrollbar inside a popup element?

2004-06-30 Thread Gerald Bauer
Hello Sven Andersson, > I'm creating a extension for mozilla firefox, and I > need to have a volume-controler. > And I think a simple scrollbar would do the trick, > but I wan't it only be visible when > I klick on a little button in the statusbar... So I > created a popup element that > pops u

[xul-talk] gDesklet Weather Forecast XUL Sample - Sign up for the "Is it hot or not?" Series

2004-06-29 Thread Gerald Bauer
Pretty impressive, isn't it? Anyways, let us know if you want to join in and I sign you up in the XUL Challenge Round 2 also known as the "Is it hot or not?" series. - Gerald --- Gerald Bauer X

[xul-talk] XUL/XUI/XUIL/XML-UI/UIML/UML/etc. Wiki Page

2004-06-28 Thread Gerald Bauer
- Gerald ------- Gerald Bauer XUL Alliance| http://xul.sourceforge.net United XAML | http://xaml.sourceforge.net --- This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings & Training. Attend Black Hat Briefings & T

Re: [xul-talk] XUL/XUI/XUIL/XML-UI - It's Your Choice

2004-06-28 Thread Gerald Bauer
out UI Markup Language (UML). I guess it's a non-started. - Gerald --- Gerald Bauer XUL Alliance| http://xul.sourceforge.net United XAML | http://xaml.sourceforge.net --- This SF.Net email sponsored

[xul-talk] XUL/XUI/XUIL/XML-UI - It's Your Choice

2004-06-27 Thread Gerald Bauer
Hello, Just to let you know I invite you to use whatever acronym you feel most comfortable with on xul-talk. Be it XUL, XUI, XUIL, XML-UI, XPML, XAML, UIML, UML, WML etc. It's your choice and I ask everyone to respect it. - Gerald --- Gerald Bauer XUL All

Re: [xul-talk] xui/xul/xuil/uiml/uml poll?

2004-06-27 Thread Gerald Bauer
Hello Pike, > is there a poll online about how to call "XML/UI"? Not yet. Check back in a couple of weeks. > .. I notice I'm saying XUI to people and they just > understand it .. > everyone in my bussines knows the word gui .. and > xui sounds the same. And it coveres the meaning > better tha

[xul-talk] Poll: What is Your Scripting Language of Choice? Call For Nominations

2004-06-27 Thread Gerald Bauer
et us know if your scripting language of choice is missing in the lineup. - Gerald ------- Gerald Bauer XUL Alliance| http://xul.sourceforge.net United XAML | http://xaml.sourceforge.net __ Post

[xul-talk] Poll: What Java XML UI Toolkit Do You Use Most? Call For Nominations

2004-06-27 Thread Gerald Bauer
- Gerald PS: You can see the results from the last "What Java XUL Toolkit Do You Use Most?" poll online @ http://viva.sourceforge.net/republic/2004/03/poll_results_the_most_used_free_java_xul_toolkits_and_the_winner_is.html ------- Gerald Bauer Thinlet Deve

[xul-talk] The Future of the Web - HTML 4, HTML 4.3, (X)HTML 5?

2004-06-27 Thread Gerald Bauer
ere at pains to position XAML as a way to write Windows apps, not Web apps. More @ http://www.davidtemkin.com/mtarchive/04.html What position do you you favor? Let us know. - Gerald --- Gerald Bauer XUL Alliance| http://xul.sourceforge.

[xul-talk] XUL Challenge Round 2 - Weather Web Service Applet - Anyone?

2004-06-25 Thread Gerald Bauer
Hello, I'm just wondering if anybody is interested in a new XUL challenge. This time I suggest creating a somewhat more practical example. How about creating an applet/desklet that shows a five day weather forecast using a web service? Marc Clifton of MyXaml has written up an article titl

[xul-talk] Is XML UI language a dirty word?

2004-06-24 Thread Gerald Bauer
Hello, It looks like Amy Fowler (Sun) goes to great length to distance the JDNC markup language from the XUL family. e.g. Amy writes: JDNC Markup Language is not a user interface markup language, but an extensible configuration language for UI and non-UI components alike. But then agai

[xul-talk] Sun joins the XUL bandwagon at last

2004-06-24 Thread Gerald Bauer
ar. Hear. Any thoughts? Any comments? - Gerald --- Gerald Bauer Thinlet Developers Group | http://groups.yahoo.com/group/thinlet SwiXml Developers Group | http://groups.yahoo.com/group/swixml JDNC Developers Group | http

[xul-talk] XUL - Very clever, clean, concise, user-modifiable/skinnable, and a big win overall

2004-06-24 Thread Gerald Bauer
Hello, for a change allow me to forward Stephen D. Williams mail titled "XML API examples". Here we go: XML-based GUI interpreters are the way to go for the long term, although it will take a while to standardize. All native GUI toolkits will likely be left in the dust, including my favor

[xul-talk] XUL - Ease of Use Vs. Flexibility

2004-06-24 Thread Gerald Bauer
Hello, It looks like my main mail address is now blocked as my last couple of postings just evaporated and never showed up. Strange. Here's my response to Michael Gloegls mail: > Well, has anybody done that with XUL yet? Again, XUL builds on the success of HTML. XUL doesn't replace HTML b

[xul-talk] Michael Gloegls (of Team Hibernate) on XUL

2004-06-22 Thread Gerald Bauer
is Sun's frontpage @ http://www.sun.com not a full-page Java applet? Do you see why Java is irrelevant and why a REST-style XML format beats an API anytime? - Gerald --- Gerald Bauer XUL Alliance| http://xul.sourceforge.net United XAML | http://xaml.sourceforge.

[xul-talk] XUL-like language for Python - Why Not?

2004-06-22 Thread Gerald Bauer
Hello, allow me to forward the comp.lang.python post by Jon Perez titled "XUL like languages for addressing the Python GUI problem". Here we go: It might be a good idea if a Python module were created that supported XUL (whether based on the Mozilla, Luxor, Microsoft XAML dialect or its own

RE: [xul-talk] Project FopSpeen - Why Not?

2004-06-21 Thread Gerald Bauer
Hello Alex, > Simple: because not everyone wants to use C# (or VB, > heaven forbid) as their scripting language. Well, Mono is a common language runtime and thus you can use whatever scripting language you prefer e.g. Python, Javascript, etc. Mono doesn't imply that you have to use C#, VB, or

[xul-talk] Joel Spolsky on WHAT and the Web 1.1 and ideas on how to make HTML sing

2004-06-21 Thread Gerald Bauer
ch more Full story @ http://www.joelonsoftware.com/items/2004/06/17.html What are your ideas for improving the HTML/CSS/JavaScript infrastructure to make web app development better? - Gerald --- Gerald Bauer Thinlet Developers Group | http://groups.yahoo.com/group/thinlet Sw

[xul-talk] Mono/MyXAML/Qt#/Gtk# - Anyone Tried It Out?

2004-06-21 Thread Gerald Bauer
Hello Marc, > Why go through all those hoops illustrated in the > diagram? Use .NET/Mono for the UI, use MyXaml for > the scripting interface, and use C# for the client > side scripting. You can eliminate all the different > layers in the FopSpeen design diagram, and get your > apps working

[xul-talk] Project FopSpeen - Why Not?

2004-06-21 Thread Gerald Bauer
.nl/phpwiki/index.php/FopSpeen What's your take on it? Is Alexander on to something? - Gerald --- Gerald Bauer XUL Alliance| http://xul.sourceforge.net United XAML | http://xaml.sourceforge.net The T

[xul-talk] Tech Paper: Inside XUI, Inside Carousel

2004-06-18 Thread Gerald Bauer
Hello, allow me to highlight the tech paper titled "The Carousel Architecture". What is Carousel? Carousel is a development platform built on the open-source XUI framework. XUI's core functionality provides for user-interface construction and data abstraction. Carousel extends th

[xul-talk] Jon Udell Column: Thin clients and rich data

2004-06-17 Thread Gerald Bauer
the way to get more out of Internet Explorer? - Gerald ------- Gerald Bauer Mozilla XUL Developers Group | http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mozilla-xul PHP XUL Developers Group | http://groups.yahoo.com/group/php-xul Perl XUL Developers Group| http://groups.yahoo.com

[xul-talk] Joel on Software: How Microsoft Lost the API War - Let's Make HTML Sing

2004-06-17 Thread Gerald Bauer
ent..." The trouble is: it's too late. More @ http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/APIWar.html Do you agree with Joel's conclusion that Windows 2007 can't compete against the Web 1.0 or the Web 2.0? - Gerald --- Gerald Bauer

[xul-talk] Is HTML a free-for-all? WHAT WG spokesman says W3C doesn't care about HTML

2004-06-17 Thread Gerald Bauer
Hello, allow me to highlight a posting from Ian "Hixie" Hickson - the WHAT WG spokesman - in response to Jim Ley who asks how dare you hijack HTML, doesn't it belong to the W3C? Here we go: > Jim Ley wrote: > > So it is the intention of Web Forms 2.0 to extend the XHTML namespace, > not cari

[xul-talk] Creating a Rich Internet For Everyone - How?

2004-06-17 Thread Gerald Bauer
Hello Dave, > Otherwise, the aim of RICHIE is not clear - is it > published? Well, RICHIE stands for RICH Internet for Everyone. Now guess what? The aim of the RICHIE initiative is to create a rich internet for everyone. > I would like to understand what it is that is being > ignored and ple

[xul-talk] XUL Challenge Update: Let's Welcome Thinlet

2004-06-14 Thread Gerald Bauer
I'll finish the second an publish the sources for review later. - Gerald --- Gerald Bauer Thinlet Developers Group | http://groups.yahoo.com/group/thinlet The Thinlet World | http://thinlet.blog-cit

[xul-talk] WHATWG Spokesperson attacks and ridicules XUL Alliance

2004-06-13 Thread Gerald Bauer
Hello Ian, > since the "XUL alliance" > has failed to get any standardisation done in its > years of existence The goal of the XUL alliance for now is *not* to create a new spec. If you care to check out the sourceforge project blurb, it states: The XUL (XML User Interface Language) project

[xul-talk] HTML 5.0 Is The New XUL/XAML/XUI/XForms - Welcome To The Web 2.0

2004-06-13 Thread Gerald Bauer
Hello, > I really don't understand what this solves. If your > advocating that HTML support basic XUL (which is the > implication) then you may as well > just advocate that all browsers support XUL. In > which case, XUL doesn't > need to be part of HTML but instead an alternative > markup for w

[xul-talk] WHAT WG Spokesperson on XUL Basic Spec - XUL and HTML It's All The Same

2004-06-13 Thread Gerald Bauer
Hello, allow me to quote Ian "Hixie" Hickson on the XUL Basic Spec proposal: The parts of XUL that make sense for this work will indeed be merged into the Web Apps spec. Matthew Raymond comments: Interesting. This would probably be an appropriate solution. I'm concerned that we may be

[xul-talk] WHAT WG Spotlight: How about a XUL Basic spec?

2004-06-13 Thread Gerald Bauer
criticism are welcome. Source: http://listserver.dreamhost.com/pipermail/whatwg-whatwg.org/2004-June/000111.html What's your take on it? Any comments? Any thoughts? - Gerald --- Gerald Bauer Open XUL Alliance - A Rich Internet For Everyone | http://xul.sourceforge.

[xul-talk] Marc Clifton (of MyXAML fame) on (Web) Standards

2004-06-13 Thread Gerald Bauer
Hello, allow me to forward a mail by Marc Clifton (of MyXAML fame) where Marc shares the 10 top realistic opinions about standards. Here we go: I see several things, and it surprises me that no one actually says what I'm about to say (or at least, that I'm aware of), but then again, I'm

[xul-talk] Counter Sample Showcase Update: Let's Welcome Mozilla

2004-06-12 Thread Gerald Bauer
r.org/sources/xulchallenge2004 for details. Also thanks to Hans Harder who sent in a Mozilla XUL counter sample a while ago. I've include Hans Harder's sample and Firefox screenshot in the upcoming XUL Challenge 2004 download package. - Gerald ------- Gerald Bauer Thi

[xul-talk] Counter Sample Showcase Update: Let's Welcome Keystone

2004-06-12 Thread Gerald Bauer
://xul.sourceforge.net/counter.html#keystone - Gerald --- Gerald Bauer All Things XAML Group | http://groups.yahoo.com/group/xaml-talk MyXAML Developers Group | http://groups.yahoo.com/group/myxaml --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by

Re: [xul-talk] XUL World's Who's Who - Call For Nomination

2004-06-10 Thread Gerald Bauer
Salut Laurent Jouanneau, > There is already a page like this on the wiki : > > http://xul.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/XulPeople Thanks for pointing out the Wiki page. The Who's Who list is a little different because it will include a short bio and a paragraph or two about the contribution t

[xul-talk] Thinlet on .NET?

2004-06-08 Thread Gerald Bauer
Hello Charlie, > Does Thinlet run on .NET? I can't promise it but you might try to run it on .NET using Mono+IKVM.NET. - Gerald --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: GNOME Foundation Hackers Unite! GUADEC: The world's #1 Open Source De

[xul-talk] Questions Wanted For Luan O'Carroll (Xoetrope XUI and Carousel project lead)

2004-06-08 Thread Gerald Bauer
Hello, I invite you to also send in your questions for the next XUL Titan interview with special guest Luan O'Carroll who leads the Xoetrope XUI and Carousel projects. Xoetrope XUI is a free, open source Java and XML framework for building rich client, desktop and mobile applications. The lat

[xul-talk] Questions Wanted For Sulu Project Lead Son To

2004-06-08 Thread Gerald Bauer
Hello, Son To who has just announced the Sulu and Suzilla projects at the XUL News Wire has signed up for the next XUL Titan interview. If you have any questions about Sulu, please hurry and post them to xul-talk or send them to my private mail as I will send all questions off to Son To

[xul-talk] Chris Lilley (W3C SVG WG Chair) Comments on WHAT WG

2004-06-07 Thread Gerald Bauer
Hello, allow me to quote Chris Lilley who chairs the W3C SVG working group. Here we go: So, it's not a W3C working group but instead, is a small group of individuals trying to bring back the browser wars mentality. It's invitation only, I see, though I expect most specs will be on hixie.ch

[xul-talk] Ian Hickson on "Is the W3C Irrelevant?" and "Who looks out for Mozilla and Opera?"

2004-06-07 Thread Gerald Bauer
Hello, For more background about Ian Hickson (who used to work full-time for Mozilla and now works full-time for Opera) allow me to quote again from Hixie's Natural Log: Ian writes: I might even want to participate in the working group, since someone will have to look out for the Opera

[xul-talk] Ian Hickson blogs on "Is WHAT WG a W3C alternative?"

2004-06-07 Thread Gerald Bauer
Hello, on the question if WHAT WG is a W3C alternative allow me to quote Ian Hickson (WHAT WG spokesperson). We [Mozilla and Opera], of course, want the W3C to go down our chosen route. Since there doesn't seem to be much consensus on doing that, though, the question is what should we do now?

[xul-talk] WHAT WG Membership is by Invitation only

2004-06-07 Thread Gerald Bauer
Hello, > Wow, so many mistakes in such a short paragraph. > > It's not by-invitation-only. Anyone can join. Many > dozens of people > already have. You just have to subscribe to a > mailing list. Ian allow me to quote from your very own website: **Membership is by invitation only**, and con

[xul-talk] Neal Deakin (Mr. XUL Planet) Comments on the WHAT WG Initiative

2004-06-07 Thread Gerald Bauer
Hello, Neal Deakin comments on the new WHAT WG initiative in the blog story over at XUL Planet titled "What is the WHAT?". Neal writes: WHAT is just trying to build a few additional features onto HTML, CSS and the DOM to allow more sophisticated interaction, perhaps what XHTML really shoul

[xul-talk] WHAT WG Takes On Microsoft and the W3C - Any Comments?

2004-06-07 Thread Gerald Bauer
Hello, WHAT WG is a new by-invitation-only W3C alternative launched by Mozilla, Opera & Apple that excludes Microsoft and is chartered to create new backward compatible web standards that let you build web applications using HTML, CSS, DOM and Javascript. See the XUL News Wire story @ http://

Re: [xul-talk] Open XUL Alliance Becomes RICHIE Alliance? Comments?

2004-06-07 Thread Gerald Bauer
Hello Charles, > Here's a suggestion: > > Or, even simpler: XmlUI - www.xmlui.org is > unregistered, I believe. Thanks for your suggestion. I've created a new wiki page titled "New Xul Alliance Name" and added your suggestion. See http://xul.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/NewXulAllianceName

Re: [xul-talk] xul challenge

2004-06-07 Thread Gerald Bauer
Hello Pike, > looking again at the old xul-challenge for the > counter > http://xul.sourceforge.net/counter.html > > I notice mozilla is not in there. at all ! is there > a good reason for that, or is it just because nobody > signed up ? I will update the XUL Challenge 2004 Counter show

[xul-talk] flash-xul, perl-xul & php-xul mailinglists Now Live - Comments?

2004-06-04 Thread Gerald Bauer
Hello, I've created a couple of more mailinglist over at Yahoo! Groups. The new lineup includes: * flash-xul Mailing List @ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flash-xul Talk about all things Flash and XUL * php-xul Mailing List @ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/php-xul Talk about all th

Re: [xul-talk] Crazy idea - but has anybody thought of this?

2004-06-04 Thread Gerald Bauer
Hello Arron, > Is this just one of those "Gee Arron, nice but I > think you need to lay off the caffeine and get some > sleep" moments or does this sound like something > that is viable? > > Comments? Rants? Makes a lot of sense. However, putting together a Linux distro and integrating all the

[xul-talk] Neal Deakin (Mr. XUL Planet) Comments on the W3C RICHIE Workshop

2004-06-03 Thread Gerald Bauer
Hello, Neal Deakin comments on the W3C RICHIE Workshop in the blog story over at XUL Planet titled "Some Web Application thoughts". Neal writes: Here are a number of thoughts on web applications, inspired from reading the recent discussions of the W3C Workshop on Web Applications. * Th

[xul-talk] Ian "Hixie" Hickson Can You Hear Us? Care To Comment?

2004-06-03 Thread Gerald Bauer
Hello, > I have to agree that the entire opinion is baloney. > The reason they > don't want to cooperate is it suits nobody's > business interest to > cooperate. If, for instance, Java is so hard to > 'recreate' then how > come a handful of volunteers have come up with > things like GCJ and G

Re: [xul-talk] JAXFront open source?

2004-06-03 Thread Gerald Bauer
Hello Mark Rzepka, > do anybody knows is ther a tool like JAXFront but > open source? > JAXFront http://www.jaxfront.com/ generates based on > a XML Schema an > interactive graphical user interface without writing > one line of code. The > generated front end allows editing the underlying > XML.

[xul-talk] Open XUL Alliance Becomes RICHIE Alliance? Comments?

2004-06-02 Thread Gerald Bauer
Hello, let me know what you think of rebranding the Open XUL Alliance to the RICHIE Alliance. RICHIE (TM) stands for a Rich Internet for Everyone (TM). Does anyone care? Does anyone have any other suggestions? How about using the RICHIE Alliance as an umbrella for the Open XUL Alliance

[xul-talk] Ian "Hixie" Hickson Reports On The W3C Rich Client Workshop

2004-06-02 Thread Gerald Bauer
atform Markup Language (RCPML) thingy is all about? Full story @ http://ln.hixie.ch/?start=1086158925&count=1 Any thoughts? Any comments? - Gerald --- Gerald Bauer Open XUL Alliance - A Rich Internet For Everyone | http://xul.sourceforge.net

Re: [xul-talk] Poll: What do you think encourages more usage of Mozilla XUL?

2004-06-01 Thread Gerald Bauer
Salut Laurent, Thanks for your answers and comments. >> o A Mozilla XUL specification > > Spécifications are at http://www.xulplanet.com Well, can you point me to the spec at XUL Planet? Or lets put it another way: Can you let me know if in your world XUL can work without the Mozilla ma

[xul-talk] Poll: What do you think encourages more usage of Mozilla XUL?

2004-05-29 Thread Gerald Bauer
up/mozilla-xul/surveys?id=1251132 You can find the mozilla-xul Yahoo! Group @ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mozilla-xul - Gerald ------- Gerald Bauer Open XUL Alliance - A Rich Internet For Everyone | http://xul.sourc

Re: [xul-talk] Vexi Web Start Demo didn't work for me

2004-05-28 Thread Gerald Bauer
Hello Marc, > I got the following error: > > java.io.FileNotFoundException: C:\Documents and > Settings\Marc Clifton\Local > Settings\Temporary Internet > Files\Content.IE5\1VFFTT4E\vexi[1].jnlp (The > system cannot find the file specified) I think this is a Internet Explorer caching issue onl

[xul-talk] XUL Usage Poll Link Errata

2004-05-27 Thread Gerald Bauer
Hello, sorry for the XUL Usage Poll the wrong link slipped in. Here's the correct link: http://www.xulplanet.com/ndeakin/article/218 - Gerald --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Oracle 10g Get certified on the hottest thing ever to

Re: [xul-talk] Who's Mr. Mozilla XUL? Is Mozilla XUL an orphan? Is Mozilla XUL dead?

2004-05-27 Thread Gerald Bauer
Hello, > While I have no evidence, it would appear to me that > you're sampling too much of your own product. Well, it's not about Luxor. Since you're a new to the discussion allow me to highlight some blog stories from Neal Deankin (Mr. XUL Planet). Here we go: XUL-related quotes fr

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