Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.12.0a2 released

2009-04-24 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Apr 24, 2009, at 06:52 , Andreas Jung wrote: Am 23.04.2009 um 22:23 schrieb Jens Vagelpohl: On Apr 23, 2009, at 20:13 , Andreas Jung wrote: Does anyone know about the procedure for uploading stuff to download.zope.org

Re: [Zope-dev] standard_error_message no longer used in Zope 2.12?

2009-04-24 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Apr 24, 2009, at 09:49 , Chris Withers wrote: Tres Seaver wrote: Is it really the case that no-one knows what's going on here? Maybe nobody else cares enough to do the debugging you're too lazy to do? ;) Tres, That's not exactly fair.

Re: [Zope-dev] standard_error_message no longer used in Zope 2.12?

2009-04-24 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Apr 24, 2009, at 16:35 , Chris Withers wrote: Jens Vagelpohl wrote: Sorry Chris, but that's exactly the method you use every single time. You complain very loudly and expect others to come to your help and fix stuff without doing any

Re: [Zope-dev] Request to mailing list Foundation-Info rejected

2009-04-23 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Apr 23, 2009, at 11:57 , Lacko Roman wrote: Hi, Could someone explain me what that message means ? This simply means that during a moderation queue cleanup of probably 100 (mostly spam) messages to the foundation-info list your post was

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.12.0a2 released

2009-04-23 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Apr 23, 2009, at 20:13 , Andreas Jung wrote: Does anyone know about the procedure for uploading stuff to download.zope.org? Stephan Richter is maintaining the contents of download.zope.org with a series of scripts that do a simple PyPI

Re: [Zope-dev] [ZF] Zope Source Code Repository

2009-04-02 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Apr 2, 2009, at 22:53 , Tres Seaver wrote: +1 to making svn-over-http read-only checkouts work. This is now working. The repository can be reached under... http://svn.zope.org/repos/main/ jens -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG

Re: [Zope] How to add existing folder in Zope

2009-03-28 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mar 28, 2009, at 01:16 , thedag...@gmail.com wrote: Telling someone to install all of Plone just to make filesystem content available seems insane, sorry. There are several products out there which can do the job, like LocalFS. LocalFS has

Re: [Zope] How to add existing folder in Zope

2009-03-27 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mar 27, 2009, at 18:11 , Tim Nash wrote: Or you may be able to use CMF 'Filesystem directory view'. The easiest way to do that is to use Plone 3. Telling someone to install all of Plone just to make filesystem content available seems

Re: [Zope-dev] svn.zope.org fails?

2009-03-10 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mar 10, 2009, at 17:37 , Roger Ineichen wrote: svn co -r 93260 svn://svn.zope.org/repos/main/zc.table/trunk/src/zc/table zc.table fails for me with: svn: Connection closed unexpectedly (tried from different countries) I have that problem

Re: [Zope] Can't start Zope

2009-03-10 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mar 10, 2009, at 21:35 , Ken Winter wrote: I have done something to my Zope instance that has prevented Zope from starting (after many years of working fine). Can you help me find a way out? From the traceback it looks like the Zope

Re: [Zope-dev] zope3docs - zopeframework?

2009-03-05 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mar 5, 2009, at 16:32 , Martijn Faassen wrote: Thanks for pointing that out. If we moved it could you put a redirect in place that just pointed .../zope3docs to .../zopeframework? I think to get started on the move we could copy the

Re: [Zope-dev] zope3docs - zopeframework?

2009-03-05 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mar 5, 2009, at 18:24 , Jens Vagelpohl wrote: Let's do this: - svn copy zope3docs to zopeframework - once you think zopeframework is ready for public viewing, let me know and I'll set up a self-updating sandbox and a redirect - after

Re: [Zope-dev] zope3docs - zopeframework

2009-03-05 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mar 5, 2009, at 17:55 , Martijn Faassen wrote: Jens, could you pick up zopeframework/trunk now for http://docs.zope.org/zopeframework? And put a redirect in place for http://docs.zope.org/zope3docs to the new location? We can then retire

Re: [Zope-dev] zope3docs - zopeframework

2009-03-05 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mar 5, 2009, at 19:08 , Martijn Faassen wrote: Hey, Jens Vagelpohl wrote: On Mar 5, 2009, at 17:55 , Martijn Faassen wrote: Jens, could you pick up zopeframework/trunk now for http://docs.zope.org/zopeframework? And put a redirect in place

Re: [Zope-dev] zope3docs - zopeframework?

2009-03-04 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mar 5, 2009, at 08:24 , Christian Theune wrote: As Dan pointed out, some of those documents are a bit more general than Zope Framework, but, then again, they're also more general than Zope 3. So even for that its better to have them in

Re: [Zope-dev] [Checkins] SVN: Zope/trunk/README.txt The zope-lice...@zope.org address is bouncing.

2009-02-26 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 My suggestion would be foundation-i...@zope.org, since the ZF is the publisher of the ZPL at this point. jens On Feb 26, 2009, at 12:32 , Baiju M wrote: Can anyone please verify this change. As it is related to license, I thought just get

Re: [Zope-dev] zope2docs

2009-02-23 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Feb 23, 2009, at 17:58 , Andreas Jung wrote: - the new.zope.org skins should be removed for docs.zope,org. Since all/most of the content will be auto-generated through Sphinx it should be sufficient to adjust the color scheme, putting a

Re: [Zope-dev] Overhauling the Zope 2 presentation on zope.org

2009-02-21 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Feb 21, 2009, at 08:55 , Andreas Jung wrote: - - are there any legal issues with the design layout in case we want to make modifications? I know that the designer of new.zope.org theme made some trouble when it came to discussion about the

Re: [Zope-dev] SVN: zope2book/trunk/ Lot's of updates over the weekend!

2009-02-16 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Feb 16, 2009, at 19:43 , Dieter Maurer wrote: Andreas Jung wrote at 2009-2-16 19:20 +0100: ... Please come off it. Either become an active contributor and participate in our dictatorship I will never participate in your dictatorship!

Re: [Zope-dev] zope3docs

2009-02-02 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Feb 2, 2009, at 18:32 , Christian Theune wrote: Nevertheless, you're right about the ease of writing ReST in my own editor. What's even better: SVN-based documentation (or buildouts that create it) can be automated so that the site can be

Re: [Zope-dev] ** PROBLEM alert - Zope Project Services (SVN/Downloads/Mailman/...)/KGS age is WARNING **

2009-02-01 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Feb 1, 2009, at 06:54 , Stephan Richter wrote: On Saturday 31 January 2009, Jens Vagelpohl wrote: I just need to know what to look for to see if it's fixed. Works. Quick question: How is doenload.zope.org maintained? Shell access? And who

Re: [ZWeb] an idea for the wiki

2009-02-01 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Jan 31, 2009, at 20:23 , Simon Michael wrote: Oh. That seems a pity, with Zope 3.4 just out; a site facelift would help. Would the designer care to comment ? The designer is not part of the community. He won't see your mail. jens

Re: [Zope-dev] Fw: ** PROBLEM alert - Zope Project Services (SVN/Downloads/Mailman/...)/KGS age is WARNING **

2009-01-31 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Jan 31, 2009, at 09:49 , Stephan Richter wrote: On Saturday 31 January 2009, Stephan Richter wrote: On Saturday 31 January 2009, Christian Theune wrote: Darn. The moment I send the mail I realise that Stephan said he'll move the URLs

Re: [Zope-dev] ** PROBLEM alert - Zope Project Services (SVN/Downloads/Mailman/...)/KGS age is WARNING **

2009-01-31 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Jan 31, 2009, at 10:06 , Tres Seaver wrote: If you could provide a little bit more context since I have no idea how download.zope.org is managed I could look at it. I need to know what the URLs are that do not work. Probably the virtualhost

Re: [Zope-dev] Outage wiki.zope.org

2009-01-29 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Jan 29, 2009, at 14:42 , Christian Theune wrote: wiki.zope.org is down. The hosting centre operator just sent a mail that they have power outages and the location at which wiki.zope.org sits is affected. All services should be restored. One

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.globalrequest?

2009-01-16 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Jan 16, 2009, at 18:25 , Hanno Schlichting wrote: The concept of giving SVN repositories any kind of quality level aspect failed in the same way. Dependencies are specified in the setup.py and egg metadata. Quality is judged by who has

Re: [Zope] Error in python method...

2009-01-13 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Jan 13, 2009, at 20:53 , Jeff Peterson wrote: Don’t quote me but I believe Plone 3 runs on the Zope 3 framework already. Anyone? No. jens -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (Darwin)

[Zope-Annce] New Zope Foundation bylaws passed

2008-12-17 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
Member. 2. Sponsorship Members, members who financially sponsor the Foundation. 3. Emeritus Members, members who retired from active membership. The new bylaws can be downloaded from the Zope Foundation website at http://foundation.zope.org/bylaws/zope_foundation_bylaws.pdf Jens

[Zope] New Zope Foundation bylaws passed

2008-12-17 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
Member. 2. Sponsorship Members, members who financially sponsor the Foundation. 3. Emeritus Members, members who retired from active membership. The new bylaws can be downloaded from the Zope Foundation website at http://foundation.zope.org/bylaws/zope_foundation_bylaws.pdf Jens

Re: [Zope-dev] Subversion merge tracking

2008-11-13 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Nov 13, 2008, at 14:42 , Benji York wrote: I'd like for us to disallow pre-1.5 Subversion clients from making commits starting one year from now (or sooner if there is consensus). +1 jens -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8

Re: [ZWeb] svn server broken

2008-11-09 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Nov 9, 2008, at 13:05 , Michael Haubenwallner wrote: A 'svn up' at svn.zope.org returns an error atm: svn: Can't find a temporary directory: Error string not specified yet I have poked around a little bit and it appears there's a hard drive

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.12 features

2008-11-04 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Nov 4, 2008, at 09:10 , Andreas Jung wrote: In the meantime, we can acknowledge that 2.8 and 2.9 are retired (no future work except maybe important security fixes), +1 and announce that 2.10 will be retired after the 2.12 release: We

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.12 features

2008-11-04 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Nov 4, 2008, at 13:59 , Hanno Schlichting wrote: If I'm not mistaken there was something about every release being supported two years after its initial release in those discussions. But time went on, we haven't sticked to a time-based

Re: [Zope-dev] ZCatalog caching with memcached

2008-10-27 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Oct 27, 2008, at 13:08 , Roché Compaan wrote: On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 14:07 -0400, Tres Seaver wrote: - Plone uses too many indexes, and in particular, uses multiple text indexes. Having extra indexes around just in case is a sure lose a

Re: [Zope-dev] ZCatalog caching with memcached

2008-10-27 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Oct 27, 2008, at 13:32 , Roché Compaan wrote: On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 13:23 +0100, Jens Vagelpohl wrote: When it comes to integrating anything in Zope itself I'd choose the latter. Sure, we're not trying to get this into Zope, we're just

Re: [Zope-dev] Proposal: Make Zope2 smaller

2008-10-26 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Oct 26, 2008, at 16:37 , Hanno Schlichting wrote: I'd like to change the egg distribution alone and introduce one setuptools extra to it. The old tarball distribution would stay the same. The standard Zope2 egg install would only include

Re: [Zope-dev] Need help - wrong hierarchy on svn.zope.org

2008-10-20 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Oct 20, 2008, at 14:05 , kevin gill wrote: Hi, I need a little help. I checked two packages into svn.zope.org, but I have set up the hierarchy incorrectly. The packages are z3c.rotterdam and z3c.boston. The egg is in the base folder,

Re: [Zope] Zope 2.x for Py 2.6 as 64 bit Windows application?

2008-10-10 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Oct 10, 2008, at 17:00 , Chris Withers wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd be grateful for a rough idea on when there could be a Zope 2.x release working with Python 2.6 as a 64-bit Windows application. Given that we don't even have Zope

Re: [Zope-PAS] _verifyUser() broken for anonymous

2008-10-04 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sep 24, 2008, at 18:11 , Paul Winkler wrote: Any thoughts on the fix itself? I've got two branches now, against trunk and against 1.5: .../branches/slinkp-fix-anonymous-performance-branch

Re: [Zope-dev] Wiki down

2008-10-01 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Oct 1, 2008, at 08:54 , Christian Theune wrote: Good morning, My Nagios just alarmed me, that the wiki is down. Anybody around who can poke it? Works fine for me. jens -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (Darwin)

Re: [Zope-dev] Wiki down

2008-10-01 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Oct 1, 2008, at 11:06 , Christian Theune wrote: On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 09:15 +0200, Jens Vagelpohl wrote: On Oct 1, 2008, at 08:54 , Christian Theune wrote: Good morning, My Nagios just alarmed me, that the wiki is down. Anybody around who

Re: [Zope-PAS] _verifyUser() broken for anonymous

2008-09-23 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sep 23, 2008, at 20:55 , Paul Winkler wrote: (There does not seem to be a 1.6 branch.) We have informally decided to proceed with a simpler trunk + tags release policy, right now there's no need to add the complication of release branches.

Re: [ZWeb] Reverse DNS record for cvs.zope.org

2008-08-29 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Aug 29, 2008, at 12:09 , Sascha Welter wrote: Hi! The DNS for cvs.zope.org (used to send out password mails from zope.org) points to 74.84.203.155. The reverse lookup of 74.84.203.155 points to 203-155.baymountain.com and

Re: [Zope-dev] Browsing ancient history in CVS

2008-08-26 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Aug 26, 2008, at 17:55 , Behrens, Matt wrote: I am sort of at my wit's end trying to find out how to work this out, and I've been sort of absent from Zope-dom for the a few years, so please forgive me if I've missed an obvious statement

Re: [Zope] uncataloging

2008-08-16 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Aug 16, 2008, at 11:06 , Dieter Maurer wrote: The easiest way to determine the uid is probably to locate the object via a catalog search. You will get a catalog proxy for the object, often also called brain. This proxy has the method getPath() which returns the object's uid -- don't

Re: [Zope-dev] KGS buildbot news (zope.server failure almost explained)

2008-08-15 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Aug 15, 2008, at 02:35 , Christophe Combelles wrote: We should also probably consider waiting a bit more for the new site (new.zope.org) to come up, but I don't know when it will be finished. It only needs some content for zope2, grok, and some other pages. I don't see the connection

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 4 OK, 1 Unknown

2008-08-14 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Aug 14, 2008, at 13:59 , Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Zope Tests Summarizer wrote: Unknown --- Subject: Storesonline, Plan for an ecommerce Website. From: Mister Nice Guy Date: Wed Aug 13 09:14:30 EDT 2008 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2008-August/

Re: [Zope] Zope capacity planning

2008-08-13 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Aug 13, 2008, at 22:42 , Ricardo Bánffy wrote: Hi folks. I was giving a class on Zope/Plone administration and one of the students asked about an official guide on Zope capacity planning. I searched zope.org, asked all mighty Google and wandered through both the darkest and lightest

Re: [Zope-dev] wiki downtime, zope.interface 3.0.0b1, and buildout/setuptools crash

2008-08-11 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Aug 11, 2008, at 10:07 , Christian Theune wrote: a) the wiki is down. Can someone please fix this? Well, it wasn't down like it always was on the old server, Apache just served an empty page for it. This appears to have been a (unrelated) Apache configuration. It's fixed now. jens

Re: [Zope] Thesaurus / ontology / taxonomy support in Zope-Plone

2008-08-11 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Aug 11, 2008, at 14:26 , Benjamin Michiels wrote: Hi, (I'm new to Zope and Plone, so don't hesitate to indicate me a more appropriate mailing-list if necessary) You may get better Plone-related answers on the Plone list(s). See plone.org. jens

Re: [ZWeb] weird cache behaviour?

2008-07-21 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Jul 21, 2008, at 17:55 , Chris Withers wrote: Is it just me or is the cache behaviour still pretty weird? I'm trying to upload the windows build for 2.11.1 and have had to log in 2 or 3 times... It is still weird and it will probably remain that way. The caching tier is independent

Re: [Zope-dev] Buildout site

2008-07-17 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Jul 17, 2008, at 14:02 , Baiju M wrote: Hi all, Few weeks back Buildout site become live, Jens Vagelpohl setup the site at http://buildout.zope.org/ But I couldn't work further on the site. If anyone want contribute to the content please add it here: svn co svn://svn.zope.org

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Plone-developers] PAULA: bringing Zope 3's authentication to Plone and beyond

2008-07-12 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Jul 12, 2008, at 09:33 , Mark Hammond wrote: Well, Zope moved onwards from PAS to PAU and I think Plone should too, because: It seems like just yesterday that PAS offered the promise of being the nice clean way forward for authentication, and even offered a path to Zope3. I've been

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Plone-developers] PAULA: bringing Zope 3's authentication to Plone and beyond

2008-07-12 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Jul 12, 2008, at 03:04 , Florian Friesdorf wrote: On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 10:56:19PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: The one thing I am missing is: why? Well, Zope moved onwards from PAS to PAU Huh? Zope 2 uses PAS. The Zope 3 folks have attempted to come up with a similar solution,

Re: [ZWeb] Zope and https

2008-07-08 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
Hi Chad, The mailing list for technical questions is [EMAIL PROTECTED], the one you sent your request to is only for technical or organizational issues pertaining to the zope.org websites and services. Currently we use pound as a front end to Zope instances (mainly 2.8 and 2.9). To

Re: [Zope] LDAPUserFolder question

2008-07-08 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Jul 8, 2008, at 18:51 , Erik Myllymaki wrote: I am using LDAPUserFolder-2.9 with Zope 2.10.6 on Ubuntu 7. It is working well, users can log in and I can map groups to Zope roles. However, I was hoping that I could assign groups local roles, so that I can allow groups to be 'Managers'

Re: [ZWeb] zope.org migration

2008-06-20 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Jun 20, 2008, at 06:20 , David Lawson wrote: Dave, is there a way to go back to the caching configuration that existed before the move? The current caching is way too aggressive and prevents people from doing any content creation and editing on zope.org. Well. I had a look and I can

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Extend specification of how to maintain the changelog

2008-06-19 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Jun 18, 2008, at 20:30 , yuppie wrote: The current Zope 2 policy doesn't make sure the change history of unreleased versions is complete. But that's no essential part of that policy. And working with unreleased versions you might use subversion anyway. See, I think that's bad. The

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Extend specification of how to maintain the changelog

2008-06-19 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Jun 19, 2008, at 09:51 , Christian Theune wrote: On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 09:08:54AM +0200, Jens Vagelpohl wrote: See, I think that's bad. The change log should reflect all changes, be it in a released version or from Subversion. Or be it a release branch or the trunk. Please note

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Extend specification of how to maintain the changelog

2008-06-19 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Jun 19, 2008, at 12:32 , yuppie wrote: There is always *one* well defined current maintenance branch. Version numbering *does* imply a time line if you ignore old maintenance branches. It's not hard at all to get this right. I don't think that assumption holds true. Again, using the

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Extend specification of how to maintain the changelog

2008-06-19 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Jun 19, 2008, at 13:36 , yuppie wrote: Jens Vagelpohl wrote: On Jun 19, 2008, at 12:32 , yuppie wrote: There is always *one* well defined current maintenance branch. Version numbering *does* imply a time line if you ignore old maintenance branches. It's not hard at all to get

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Extend specification of how to maintain the changelog

2008-06-19 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Jun 19, 2008, at 14:41 , Martijn Faassen wrote: Tres Seaver wrote: Christian Theune wrote: [snip] My preference would be to have more important changes first. Please don't make it a judgement call: keep it time-descending order, just like the releases. Among other things, this makes

Re: [ZWeb] zope.org migration

2008-06-19 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Jun 19, 2008, at 20:53 , Andreas Jung wrote: I am logged in as ajung. http://zope.org/Products/Zope/2.11.0 shows up with all Plohn edit options. http://zope.org/Products/Zope/2.10.6/ does not. Even worser: wget http://zope.org/Products/Zope/2.11.0/folder_contents; returns the page from

Re: [Zope-dev] Extend specification of how to maintain the changelog

2008-06-18 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Jun 18, 2008, at 12:09 , Christian Theune wrote: - A change on a branch is recorded in the next unreleased section. (Merges of the same fix over multiple branches are not recorded in different places on the other branches.) This results in the following properties for the CHANGES.txt:

Re: [Zope-dev] Extend specification of how to maintain the changelog

2008-06-18 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Jun 18, 2008, at 14:32 , Christian Theune wrote: Hi, On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 01:11:46PM +0200, Jens Vagelpohl wrote: Just for clarification, does this imaginary scenario describe what you mean? - I am fixing a problem in the 1.2-branch of my Foobar product and note the fix

Re: [Zope-dev] Extend specification of how to maintain the changelog

2008-06-18 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Jun 18, 2008, at 15:07 , Christian Theune wrote: On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 02:48:22PM +0200, Jens Vagelpohl wrote: So in essence it sounds like changes will be noted in CHANGES.txt for *all* those branches and the trunk that they're applied to, and the only difference is the version

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Extend specification of how to maintain the changelog

2008-06-18 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Jun 18, 2008, at 19:00 , yuppie wrote: Why do we maintain a CHANGES.txt file? Who reads it and why? The audience I have in mind are users of released versions. They read CHANGES.txt to figure out what's new in a release. Let's take Zope 2 as an example: Most people will currently use

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Extend specification of how to maintain the changelog

2008-06-18 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Jun 18, 2008, at 19:27 , yuppie wrote: That's not the only audience. I as a developer consult CHANGES.txt to (hopefully) find *all* changes on the respective branch or on the trunk that have flowed into it until now. Can't developers use the subversion history? It's much quicker to

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Extend specification of how to maintain the changelog

2008-06-18 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Jun 18, 2008, at 19:32 , Fred Drake wrote: On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 1:27 PM, yuppie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry. I was referring to the current Zope 2 (and CMF) policy: Note that you don't need to note the fix in the CHANGES.txt on the trunk if you don't want to. At the time a new

Re: [ZWeb] zope.org migration

2008-06-15 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Jun 15, 2008, at 06:09 , Andreas Jung wrote: --On 15. Juni 2008 06:04:37 -0500 Jens Vagelpohl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IMHO seeing some caching-related issues in exchange for enjoying a redundantly configured caching tier is a good tradeoff for the current site. The current

[Zope-dev] z3c.form with Zope 2?

2008-06-13 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
Hi guys, Are there any basic problems using z3c.form with Zope 2? All the tutorials and documentation I have found uses straight Zope 3. If anyone has successfully used z3c.form in a Zope 2 project I'd love to see some sample code ;-) jens

Re: [Zope] not possible to download anything

2008-06-13 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Jun 13, 2008, at 10:18 , robert rottermann wrote: Hi there, after the dislocation of the zope servers zope.org is reachable again from where I am (switzerland) however it is not possible to download anything. The Zope Corp sysadmins and Jim are aware of the problems and working on

[Zope-dev] NOTICE: zope.org server move

2008-06-11 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
The zope.org-related servers and services maintained by Zope Corporation will be moving to a new home late Thursday night Eastern Standard Time. What services are affected? --- The most important service addresses include... - www.zope.org - svn.zope.org -

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-Users] NOTICE: zope.org server move

2008-06-11 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Jun 11, 2008, at 06:05 , Marius Gedminas wrote: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 01:22:18AM -0500, Jens Vagelpohl wrote: The zope.org-related servers and services maintained by Zope Corporation will be moving to a new home late Thursday night Eastern Standard Time. How long will the outage

[ZWeb] NOTICE: zope.org server move

2008-06-11 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
The zope.org-related servers and services maintained by Zope Corporation will be moving to a new home late Thursday night Eastern Standard Time. What services are affected? --- The most important service addresses include... - www.zope.org - svn.zope.org -

[Zope] NOTICE: zope.org server move

2008-06-11 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
The zope.org-related servers and services maintained by Zope Corporation will be moving to a new home late Thursday night Eastern Standard Time. What services are affected? --- The most important service addresses include... - www.zope.org - svn.zope.org -

Re: [Zope-dev] buildout and broken Cheeseshop download URLs

2008-05-28 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On May 28, 2008, at 02:25 , Christian Theune wrote: On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 02:31:04PM -0400, Jim Fulton wrote: Did you try setting up a download cache and putting it there? Note that if you had a download cache named foo, you would need to put the tar ball in foo/dist. I could and

[Zope-dev] buildout and broken Cheeseshop download URLs

2008-05-27 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
Hi guys, Does zc.buildout and/or the default egg recipe have any way of overriding the download URL from the cheese shop if that URL is broken and I cannot reach the package maintainer? Thanks! jens ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org

Re: [Zope-dev] buildout and broken Cheeseshop download URLs

2008-05-27 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On May 27, 2008, at 12:49 , Jim Fulton wrote: On May 27, 2008, at 1:42 PM, Jens Vagelpohl wrote: Hi guys, Does zc.buildout and/or the default egg recipe have any way of overriding the download URL from the cheese shop if that URL is broken and I cannot reach the package maintainer

Re: [Zope-dev] buildout and broken Cheeseshop download URLs

2008-05-27 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On May 27, 2008, at 13:31 , Jim Fulton wrote: Did you try setting up a download cache and putting it there? Note that if you had a download cache named foo, you would need to put the tar ball in foo/dist. Haven't tried that yet. jens ___

Re: [Zope] Multithreading sessions

2008-05-23 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On May 23, 2008, at 11:49 , Jon Emmons wrote: Another thought I had, is that Zope has only one python interpreter running, pretty much forcing all processing to be serial by default given what you've just said. Sorry, that's all baloney. Just like blindly hiking the number of threads or

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope2 monitoring

2008-04-30 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Apr 30, 2008, at 12:41 , Christian Theune wrote: On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 12:16:53PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: I'm trying to figure out what the current state of the art for monitoring Zope2 processes is. Ideally I'ld want the equivalent of zc.z3monitor. I figured the medua

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Checkins] SVN: z3c.formjs/branches/pcardune-extjs/ creating a branch to see what I can do about extjs integration.

2008-04-18 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Apr 18, 2008, at 14:09 , Stephan Richter wrote: On Friday 18 April 2008, Wichert Akkerman wrote: There is still an ongoing debate about that even - the extjs authors basically only want to offer LGPL to you if you meet certain criteria but won't allow you to redistribute it with just

Re: [Zope-dev] Proposal: Merge philikon-aq branch into Zope trunk

2008-04-17 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Apr 17, 2008, at 12:27 , Hanno Schlichting wrote: Opinions, votes? +1 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists -

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Five and browser-oriented components

2008-04-14 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Apr 14, 2008, at 19:11 , Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: *IF* you'd like to be pragmatic, I'd suggest we clean up those failing Plone tests, merge the branch and be on our way. +1 jens ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Let's fix the damned website

2008-04-07 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Apr 7, 2008, at 00:20 , Alexander Limi wrote: - Try not to be too clever with the Taste/Get and other links. People actually scan for links that are similar from other projects, and having to interpret/understand them is confusing. +1 - The list of companies using Zope includes

Re: [Zope] External Method in Zope

2008-04-07 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Apr 7, 2008, at 11:23 , vaibhav pol wrote: Thanks alot but i am not using command but i using perl function to modify the passwd and shadow file. in my module that's why i want to invoke that module as root There's a few things seriously wrong with your plan: - you want to create a

Re: [Zope] External Method in Zope

2008-04-07 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Apr 7, 2008, at 12:18 , Chris Withers wrote: Jens Vagelpohl wrote: - doing Perl methods or external methods in Zope has been deprecated years and years ago. You will have a hard time finding anyone to support that. I'm guessing you mean perl external methods rather than all external

Re: [Zope-dev] Let's fix the damned website

2008-04-05 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Apr 5, 2008, at 17:52 , Martin Aspeli wrote: Then, we need a champion for each of the sub-projects. These are: - Zope 3 and the Zope Libraries -- this is the most important one in the short term! - Zope 2 - CMF - ZODB I'm volunteering for the CMF. jens

Re: [Zope] ZServer uncaptured python exception

2008-04-02 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Apr 2, 2008, at 11:11 , Allen Schmidt Sr. wrote: Thanks Chris. Seeing tons of squid messages about the new msnbotand it is not following our robots.txt directive. In fact, I have even disallowed it completely and it still goes where it wants. And the updated version was supposed to

Re: [Zope-dev] Packaging Zope for Fedora

2008-03-26 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Mar 26, 2008, at 01:12 , Timothy Selivanow wrote: I would rather have a package that upstream approves of and participates in, than blindly create it in a silo not caring. It never turns out well in the long run with the latter. You may be fighting windmills here. Previous attempts at

Re: [Zope] problem migrating ZClasses from Zope 2.6.1 to Zope 2.9.8

2008-03-26 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Mar 26, 2008, at 11:19 , Yuri wrote: Hi! I've got a trouble importing a ZClass app to 2.9.8 from 2.6.1. IMHO you're not investing your time wisely trying to make a ZClas application work on a later Zope version. They're unsupported and dead. I would keep the old setup running and

Re: [Zope] problem migrating ZClasses from Zope 2.6.1 to Zope 2.9.8

2008-03-26 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Mar 26, 2008, at 12:59 , Allen Schmidt Sr. wrote: That sounds so easy. We have one ZClass but it is the basis of almost our entire newspaper website. The news ZClass was built in 2000 and put into production when we went live on Zope in Feb 2001 (just before the guys at Zope Corp said

Re: [Zope] running in debug mode

2008-03-26 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Mar 26, 2008, at 15:40 , David Bear wrote: Is it possible to have one zeo client running in debug mode while another is not? It seems that it should be the way most people would make a development environment. One zeo is running in standard mode so you could see how the site performs --

Re: [Zope] problem migrating ZClasses from Zope 2.6.1 to Zope 2.9.8

2008-03-26 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Mar 26, 2008, at 16:19 , Yuri wrote: On Mar 26, 2008, at 11:19 , Yuri wrote: Hi! I've got a trouble importing a ZClass app to 2.9.8 from 2.6.1. IMHO you're not investing your time wisely trying to make a ZClas application work on a later Zope version. They're unsupported and

Re: [Zope] Re: running in debug mode

2008-03-26 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Mar 26, 2008, at 17:55 , Simon Michael wrote: ZEO clients connecting to one and the same ZEO database server then that's pretty dangerous. It is ? Yikes. I believe you, as I remember this working for a while and then giving zodb errors requiring a restart. I wonder why ? I wouldn't

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: zope.sendmail Retry fixes and new state machine.

2008-03-10 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Mar 10, 2008, at 17:57 , Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Tres Seaver wrote: Gary Poster wrote: Also, some variety of doctest would be nice. Even when a package is not using doctests, I add new tests as doctest unless there's a really good reason not to. Becuase they make for poor

Re: [Zope] repozo, pack and backups

2008-03-05 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Mar 5, 2008, at 12:38 , Miles wrote: Hi, I'm hoping someone can share their experience of using repozo, packing and backups to answer a couple of questions. I've googled around to confirm that packing means a full backup. Is there any way to carry out incremental backups and then

Re: [Zope-dev] [Zope2.10+] zopectl run conflicts with Traversable

2008-02-22 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Feb 22, 2008, at 17:52 , Andreas Jung wrote: Hi, I (and some co-workers) encountered lately issues with traversal when running scripts using zopectl run from the command line. The lookup code fore views apparently expects always the existence of a REQUEST. What's the best approach to

Re: AW: [ZWeb] Re: [Zope] Zope lists in google

2008-02-11 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Feb 11, 2008, at 15:03 , Chris Withers wrote: Josef Meile wrote: Somebody didn't like the bots to roam the archives? I have a feeling someone didn't want bots spanking some web- subversion front end that's running, but the end result is that we loose all Zope code and mailing list

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