On 12/6/05, Jim Fulton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The Zope 3 development team is proud to announce Zope 3.2.0 beta 1.
Can anyone recommend the best method to install Zope 3.2 in Debian 3.1 (Sarge)
Python version:
1. Install Python 2.4.1 (available in Sarge)
2. Install Python 2.4.2 from testin
Andreas Jung wrote:
--On 6. Dezember 2005 16:46:02 +0100 Jean-Marc Orliaguet
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi!
I'm about to write an xml importer for importing simple data
(properties,
dictionaries). Exporting is easy, importing is trickier because a parser
is required.
Is there any prefe
Sidnei da Silva wrote:
Hi there,
There's a couple of mad brazilian pythoneers that might hang out
together early in January in some hidden beach somewhere, and one of
the proposed tasks for working on (of course, powered by caipirinha)
was to take a stab at replacing Zope 2's ZServer/ZPublisher
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Zachery Bir wrote:
> I'd like to propose forward porting some behavior from the Zope2
> world's zopectl implementation:
>
> - 'run' command ('run' for hysterical reasons, I'd prefer to call it
> 'exec'): take a filesystem python script and execute
Hi there,
There's a couple of mad brazilian pythoneers that might hang out
together early in January in some hidden beach somewhere, and one of
the proposed tasks for working on (of course, powered by caipirinha)
was to take a stab at replacing Zope 2's ZServer/ZPublisher by Zope
3's Twisted/Publi
Florent Guillaume wrote:
Myself I absolutely love the approach taken by CrackAjax
(http://www.aminus.org/blogs/index.php/phunt/2005/10/06/subway_s_new_ajax_framework)
It's funny you mention that. I was intrigued by that too, but I can
only characterize his implementation as a toy. :(
I've
Tarek Ziadé wrote:
I don't know if Javascript is mature...
I meant that there are many new Ajax toolkits out there that haven't
been there for long. I wouldn't consider any of them mature. Mochikit
comes the closest as far as I can tell.
I was talking about a toolkit because it seems tha
Tarek Ziadé wrote:
Florent Guillaume wrote:
Tarek Ziadé wrote:
Hi all,
Some UI works have been done lately around and in Zope 3. I am thinking
about the work that has been done at Neckar sprint (Zope3.org website,
Viewlets, etc..), and on projects like CPSSkins for Z3 at ECM.
I a
On Dec 6, 2005, at 5:35 PM, Tarek Ziadé wrote:
I don't know if Javascript is mature
(I think Benji's question is not whether JS is mature but the AJAX
library landscape is mature; that's certainly what I question)
but I do know we all do javascript/ajax in our customer apps
today because
Florent Guillaume wrote:
> Tarek Ziadé wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Some UI works have been done lately around and in Zope 3. I am thinking
>> about the work that has been done at Neckar sprint (Zope3.org website,
>> Viewlets, etc..), and on projects like CPSSkins for Z3 at ECM.
>>
>> I am planning
Uwe Oestermeier wrote:
>a toolkit that is shared by the whole Zope community would be great,
>independent of the question whether it should be part of Z3 core or not.
>As an alternative http://svn.zope.org/zope3org could also be a place where
>all contributors could access and maintain such a libr
Zachery Bir wrote:
I'd like to propose forward porting some behavior from the Zope2
world's zopectl implementation:
- 'run' command ('run' for hysterical reasons, I'd prefer to call it
'exec'): take a filesystem python script and execute it on the
instance, with access to the root contai
Tarek Ziadé wrote:
Hi all,
Some UI works have been done lately around and in Zope 3. I am thinking
about the work that has been done at Neckar sprint (Zope3.org website,
Viewlets, etc..), and on projects like CPSSkins for Z3 at ECM.
I am planning to work on UI things as well, and on Ajax thin
Martijn Faassen wrote:
Zope 2.8 *is* actually interpolating and translating message ids
correctly *without* i18n:translate already. I think that this is the
same as Zope 3's (deprecated) behavior.
The problem is when 'structure' is used in TALES. If this isn't used,
translations happen normal
On Tuesday 06 December 2005 14:20, Dieter Maurer wrote:
> Jim Fulton wrote at 2005-12-6 08:49 -0500:
> >I still don't like the implicit translation of message ids
>
> + 1
BTW, +1 on all of Jim's comments, including bowing to the majority.
Regards,
Stephan
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Jim Fulton wrote at 2005-12-6 08:49 -0500:
>I still don't like the implicit translation of message ids
+ 1
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Jean-Marc Orliaguet wrote at 2005-12-6 16:46 +0100:
> ...
>CMFSetup uses sax, GenericSetup uses sax too. ZCML relies on sax... Does
>it mean that writing a sax parser is the way to go,
No need to write one -- Python comes with one...
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On Tue, Dec 06, 2005 at 12:01:37PM -0200, Sidnei da Silva wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 06, 2005 at 08:55:56AM -0500, Jim Fulton wrote:
> | Interesting. I wasn't aware of this in Z2. Zope 3 definately
> | doesn't have this. Sindnei, have you verified that this actially
> | works in Z2? I didn't think th
Jeff Shell wrote:
No 'formlib' for the core distribution, or was that just omitted from
the feature list?
It's there. Hm, I guess it isn't mentioned in the announcement
or in changes.txt. Dang, we need to fix that in the next release.
Jim
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Bottlerocket has also chosen MochiKit. It's not full of flashy
effects, but its Ajax support is nice, it's well tested, and it brings
a lot of Python style functionality to JavaScript which makes
JavaScript suck a whole lot less (for real - the DOM and Iterator
libraries are absolutely great).
In
No 'formlib' for the core distribution, or was that just omitted from
the feature list?
I plan to start testing this soon. We had some problems with Python
2.4.1 + Zope 3.1 on one of our deployment boxes (the app/ZODB was
developed against Python 2.3.x). I'm hoping it was just the [EMAIL PROTECTED
--On 6. Dezember 2005 16:46:02 +0100 Jean-Marc Orliaguet
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi!
I'm about to write an xml importer for importing simple data (properties,
dictionaries). Exporting is easy, importing is trickier because a parser
is required.
Is there any prefered framework for doing
Hi there,
An amendment on the behavior in Zope 2.8 + Five 1.2; it's different than
I thought and actually this is quite a relief to me (though there are
still problems).
Zope 2.8 *is* actually interpolating and translating message ids
correctly *without* i18n:translate already. I think that
Jim Fulton wrote:
I still don't like the implicit translation of message ids, but I'll
bow to the majority opinion. This really needs to be run by the ZPT
and Zope lists as well.
If we do this, then it would be tempting to deprecate allowing
i18n:translate to be used in combination with tal:c
Dmitry Vasiliev wrote:
[snip]
* currently you can translate any string (not only a message id) like this:
In this case the string will be automatically converted to message id
and then translated. I think we definitely shouldn't translate any
string, only message ids.
This is an interestin
Hi,
Am Dienstag, den 06.12.2005, 09:30 -0500 schrieb Jim Fulton:
> > I'd
> > be good to do it via a temporary file and pass that back either via
> > adaption or wrapping it into an IResult-thingy.
>
> Yes.
>
> > Now I wonder whether I _do_ have to provide the headers which are set
> > automatic
Am Dienstag, den 06.12.2005, 12:01 -0200 schrieb Sidnei da Silva:
> On Tue, Dec 06, 2005 at 08:55:56AM -0500, Jim Fulton wrote:
> | Interesting. I wasn't aware of this in Z2. Zope 3 definately
> | doesn't have this. Sindnei, have you verified that this actially
> | works in Z2? I didn't think t
The Zope 3 development team is proud to announce Zope 3.2.0 beta 1.
Zope 3 is the next major Zope release and has been written from scratch based
on the latest software design patterns and the experiences of Zope 2.
It is our opinion that Zope 3 is more than ready for production use,
which is wh
Hi!
I'm about to write an xml importer for importing simple data
(properties, dictionaries). Exporting is easy, importing is trickier
because a parser is required.
Is there any prefered framework for doing such things in zope3 (zope2)?
CMFSetup uses sax, GenericSetup uses sax too. ZCML relie
I'd like to propose forward porting some behavior from the Zope2
world's zopectl implementation:
- 'run' command ('run' for hysterical reasons, I'd prefer to call
it 'exec'): take a filesystem python script and execute it on the
instance, with access to the root container in locals. The c
For the backend (manage) this isn't problem. i have just one suggestion
FireFox+xul+Zope is good ?
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Stephan Richter wrote:
On Tuesday 06 December 2005 09:44, Fabrice Monaco wrote:
Why not XUL?
Because it sucks and is browser-specific.
Be careful, or you'll have Paul in tears ;-)
Chris
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On Tuesday 06 December 2005 09:44, Fabrice Monaco wrote:
> Why not XUL?
Because it sucks and is browser-specific.
Regards,
Stephan
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CBU Physics & Chemistry (B.S.) / Tufts Physics (Ph.D. student)
Web2k - Web Software Design, Development and Training
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Fabrice Monaco wrote:
Why not XUL?
Because you quoted an entire digest message I have only a vague idea of
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include only the text to which you're replying. Oh, and don't top post. :)
To answer the question I presume yo
Why not XUL?
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Christian Theune wrote:
Hi,
Am Montag, den 05.12.2005, 11:13 -0500 schrieb Jim Fulton:
For A, you want to compute that data and then leave
application code. You don't want to stay in the
application, holding application resources, like database
connections, while the data is being consumed.
Philipp von Weitershausen wrote:
Jim Fulton wrote:
There are a number of reasons we needed IResult:
- We want to be able to adapt existing output, especially
string output and we needed an interface to adapt to.
I see. I presume this is for the reason you state below, namely to be able to
On Tue, Dec 06, 2005 at 08:55:56AM -0500, Jim Fulton wrote:
| Interesting. I wasn't aware of this in Z2. Zope 3 definately
| doesn't have this. Sindnei, have you verified that this actially
| works in Z2? I didn't think the Zope 2 publisher actually started
| propducing output until the request
Interesting. I wasn't aware of this in Z2. Zope 3 definately
doesn't have this. Sindnei, have you verified that this actially
works in Z2? I didn't think the Zope 2 publisher actually started
propducing output until the request was finished.
Jim
Paul Winkler wrote:
On Mon, Dec 05, 2005 at 0
On Dec 6, 2005, at 8:26 AM, Benji York wrote:
Tarek Ziadé wrote:
Before starting it up, I was thinking that it would be nice if the
whole
Z3 community would be using the same toolkit, and maybe, even
integrate
it into Z3 itself.
I think that instead of settling one a single toolkit we sh
I still don't like the implicit translation of message ids, but I'll bow
to the majority opinion. This really needs to be run by the ZPT and Zope
lists as well.
If we do this, then it would be tempting to deprecate allowing i18n:translate
to be used in combination with tal:content or tal:replac
Tarek Ziadé wrote:
Before starting it up, I was thinking that it would be nice if the whole
Z3 community would be using the same toolkit, and maybe, even integrate
it into Z3 itself.
I think that instead of settling one a single toolkit we should come up
with some simple ideas for offering up
Hi Tarek,
>
>
>Before starting it up, I was thinking that it would be nice if the whole
>Z3 community would be using the same toolkit, and maybe, even integrate
>it into Z3 itself.
a toolkit that is shared by the whole Zope community would be great,
independent of the question whether it should b
Martijn Faassen wrote:
* if a i18n:translate has to be explictily added, extraction tools will
find the i18n:translate="" in the ZPT and think there's a message in the
ZPT to translate. But there's not, it's coming from Python code. This
might result in the extraction tool mistakenly extractin
Martijn Faassen wrote:
Current (deprecated) behavior of Zope 3
If a message id is defined in python, such as _("Foo"), it gets
translated by the page template engine automatically when it enters
through a tal:content, tal:replace, or tal:attributes. No
Hi all,
Some UI works have been done lately around and in Zope 3. I am thinking
about the work that has been done at Neckar sprint (Zope3.org website,
Viewlets, etc..), and on projects like CPSSkins for Z3 at ECM.
I am planning to work on UI things as well, and on Ajax things in
particular, bot
Hi,
Am Montag, den 05.12.2005, 11:13 -0500 schrieb Jim Fulton:
> For A, you want to compute that data and then leave
> application code. You don't want to stay in the
> application, holding application resources, like database
> connections, while the data is being consumed. In this case,
> you
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