K7 sharpness question
nothing fancy, just some test shots. I got, as they say, an offer I couldn't refuse. Question: is anyone having problems with sharpness? I've got it set at *Fine Sharpness advanced all the way to the + sign* and I still had to sharpen them up a bit in Lightroom. I know folks were in motion, but still. cheers, Christine http://www.caguila.com/caguila/people/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K7 sharpness question
-- From: Christine Aguila Subject: K7 sharpness question nothing fancy, just some test shots. I got, as they say, an offer I couldn't refuse. Question: is anyone having problems with sharpness? I've got it set at *Fine Sharpness advanced all the way to the + sign* and I still had to sharpen them up a bit in Lightroom. I know folks were in motion, but still. cheers, Christine http://www.caguila.com/caguila/people/ I find most lenses aren't at their best wide open. Every one of your pictures is listed as shot at f/4. Perhaps stopping down a little bit would improve things? Also, have you checked to ensure both AF and MF are accurate and in agreement with each other? William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K7 sharpness question
- Original Message - From: William Robb war...@gmail.com Perhaps stopping down a little bit would improve things? Good point Also, have you checked to ensure both AF and MF are accurate and in agreement with each other? No, but I will. Thanks, Bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: First impression of Photoshop CS5 and a PESO: Wolfe's Angel
Nice pic, though. Unlike Bob and Doug, I like the sign. Don't know why, I just do. But since two of the best and most knowledgable photogs on the list don't like it, who am I to say? ;-) yea, get back in yer hide, Nature-boy! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Adobe CS5 vs. Lightroom 3
Thanks for that insight Mark. I was close to on the verge of understanding that. And of course in PS, that's one of the things that bites me frequently. Not damaging my original, but creating a sized version that I have trouble recreating later, sized differently. I feel a certain degree of ambivalence regarding workflow, because to me it seems, at least with my images, that the same adjustments, a.k.a workflow, should NOT be applied to each image, because each is unique and therefore will likely require unique post-capture processing to reach its potential, Sure if a series of shots are of a very closely related subject, but what about the next where I turn 180 degrees and all the elements and lighting change? you've misunderstood this, Tom. LR does not force you to apply any settings to more than one image. You can work on each image individually exactly as you describe. However you can if you wish apply the work you've done on one image to any number of other images if you feel that's appropriate. You can also set up parameters to your import that will apply to all the images in an import, if you want. This is useful for things like captions and similar exif data. I have an import preset which puts my name, address, copyright info etc. on everything I import. For each import I also put in some generic caption info, eg 'Cevennes, France. 2010', and keywords (nature, landscape, france, people, rural, ...). When I edit the individual pictures I put in more specific caption info and keywords. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO -- From Conspiracy to Conspiracy
This is really a pretty lame photograph, it since it doesn't tell a story without the caption. Caption: Former Masonic Temple now a Scientology Center. There's no outward sign but this building is now a Center for Scientology, a group even more secretive than the group that preceded them in ownership. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20contocon.html that's not a secret society. THIS is a secret society: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Zj50DmBFp0 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESOs - Pink and Blue Suede
My own blue suede shoes: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/4867617684/ Nice! I wish I had photos of my blue suede shoes. Unfortunately, they predated my interest in photography by several years, and I haven't seen any family snapshots that managed to capture them. It was the mid 1970s, so they were two tone (robin's egg blue and navy blue) with 2 heels ... about a fourth the length of my hair at the time. :-) I was about twelve then. I used to wear blue suede desert boots in the mid-70s. God knows why. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESOs - Pink and Blue Suede
Nothing but just fooling around. Elvis's pink Cadillac: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/4867617482/ that's one for the money. My own blue suede shoes: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/4867617684/ and two for the shoe. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Wolfe's angel without the sign
prostitutes are cheaper, and there are more of them around. Nice light, nice angel. I could use an angel most days. Paul On Aug 6, 2010, at 8:23 PM, John Sessoms wrote: Still not satisfied with it, but ... http://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/4867574190/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Should the K10D switch batteries automatically? (and a GESO)
Did a job for my parents this weekend. They are members of a philanthropic group, Australian Council for the Promotion of the Peaceful Reunification of China, which sounds just as long in Mandarin. Being it's 10th anniversary, there was a three day conference. Not normally my sort of thing, but you know, parents must be obeyed. Turned out to be interesting in parts. Lots of ambassadors, politicians, doctors, and professors from both sides of the Strait, and around the world having a good old chat. Had the K10D with grip, the venerable *istDS and mostly primes. On the K10D, I have the battery selection set to grip first. I seem to recall it should switch automatically to the body battery when it poops out. But I had to change the menu setting or swap batteries. A good battery works in both slots, and the level indication in the menu setting works seems to be telling the truth. No switching goodness though. Anyway, here's a rough gallery. Still culling http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/10/10_08/10_08_acpprc/index.htm -- der...@iinet.net.au http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - A Cartoon Without a Caption
On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 8:56 PM, Anthony Farr farranth...@gmail.com wrote: Very well Mr Jones, I'll make an exception this time. But NEXT YEARS prostate examination will definitely be conducted in my consulting rooms. I think we have a winner! LOL cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Quick LR3 question
Hi! In Gallery mode there is a screen called Keyword list. It shows the tree of my LR keywords. Is there a way (I think I remember it was possible in LR2) to make it so that sub-keywords would count towards the respective keywords up in the tree??? Thanks. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K7 sharpness question
That fine sharpness setting is only relevant if your shooting jpegs. If you're shooting RAW, some sharpening is always necessary with any DSLR. Also make sure the camera and your lenses are in synch in regard to focal point. Test each lens for excessive front and rear focus and adjust as necessary. That said, my K7 delivers sharp photos. Shooting RAW, I generally ad just a bit of Smart Sharpen/Gaussian after conversion and any editing tweaks. But you really have to test shooting a target with wide open lenses off a tripod. Action pics are not a good way to determine if you have a problem. Paul On Aug 7, 2010, at 3:12 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: nothing fancy, just some test shots. I got, as they say, an offer I couldn't refuse. Question: is anyone having problems with sharpness? I've got it set at *Fine Sharpness advanced all the way to the + sign* and I still had to sharpen them up a bit in Lightroom. I know folks were in motion, but still. cheers, Christine http://www.caguila.com/caguila/people/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K7 sharpness question
On Aug 7, 2010, at 3:41 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: - Original Message - From: William Robb war...@gmail.com Perhaps stopping down a little bit would improve things? Good point Depends on what lens you're shooting with. The DA* 50-135 is sharpest at f4. I believe the 16-50 is as well. Also, have you checked to ensure both AF and MF are accurate and in agreement with each other? No, but I will. Thanks, Bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Boris PESO 34 - Modern times
Hi! Spotted this happy couple in the park... http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/08/peso-2010-35-modern-times.html Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Boris PESO 34 - Modern times
On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 7:05 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! Spotted this happy couple in the park... http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/08/peso-2010-35-modern-times.html Young love - connected by wires. ;-) Terrific shot, Boris! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Pentax SMC FA 24-90 mini review with samples
Hi! http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/08/pentax-fa-24-9035-45-if-al-mini-review.html All in all - I am very happy about my yet another recent acquisition. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESOs - Pink and Blue Suede
Bob W Sent: 07 August 2010 10:12 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: PESOs - Pink and Blue Suede My own blue suede shoes: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/4867617684/ Nice! I wish I had photos of my blue suede shoes. Unfortunately, they predated my interest in photography by several years, and I haven't seen any family snapshots that managed to capture them. It was the mid 1970s, so they were two tone (robin's egg blue and navy blue) with 2 heels ... about a fourth the length of my hair at the time. :-) I was about twelve then. I used to wear blue suede desert boots in the mid-70s. God knows why. The 70s - the decade that fashion forgot? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Semi OT: Some fond memories
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jaiq_ZZ_eMfeature=player_embedded# I think we all had fun with these in our time. Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K7 sharpness question
They look pretty good overall. Some are a tad flat and might benefit from your punching up the contrast.(?) I've never tried sharpening totally within the camera. Jack --- On Sat, 8/7/10, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: From: Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net Subject: K7 sharpness question To: pdml@pdml.net Date: Saturday, August 7, 2010, 12:12 AM nothing fancy, just some test shots. I got, as they say, an offer I couldn't refuse. Question: is anyone having problems with sharpness? I've got it set at *Fine Sharpness advanced all the way to the + sign* and I still had to sharpen them up a bit in Lightroom. I know folks were in motion, but still. cheers, Christine http://www.caguila.com/caguila/people/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
ME-F united with AF lens
John Celio's AF 35-70/2.8 arrived and is united with the ME-F that's been sitting in a cupboard for years: http://mitch.myzen.co.uk/PDML/_IGP5615.jpg With new batteries throughout, it all works perfectly. AF is slow and only works in good contrasty light. It's done by pressing a button on the lens grip. There are two buttons for when the camera is held in landscape or portrait. It's bulky when compared to the other M cameras, but smaller and lighter than my K7 with the 16-50/2.8, but I can see why the format never took off. I guess Pentax were keen to gain the accolade of introducing the first AF SLR so had to retrofit it to a modified existing body. I've been on the lookout for the lens, ever since a friend gave me the ME-F as payment for taking some family portraits, more as a curiosity than anything. When John's appeared at a good price, I jumped at it. My daughter used to use the ME-F with a standard 50/1.7 lens when she was learning the ropes. It's effectively an ME Super with focus confirmation without the AF lens. One day I'll put a film in it... Did Pentax ever make a non-AF version of the lens? There's not one on Boz's site so probably not then. Chris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Quick LR3 question
In Gallery mode there is a screen called Keyword list. It shows the tree of my LR keywords. Is there a way (I think I remember it was possible in LR2) to make it so that sub-keywords would count towards the respective keywords up in the tree??? right click on a keyword to open a context menu which includes various options for working with keyword sets and hierarchies. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Boris PESO 34 - Modern times
Cute shot of a Modern high tech couple. Very well seen, Boris! Jack --- On Sat, 8/7/10, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: From: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com Subject: Boris PESO 34 - Modern times To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Saturday, August 7, 2010, 4:05 AM Hi! Spotted this happy couple in the park... http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/08/peso-2010-35-modern-times.html Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Quick LR3 question
On 8/7/2010 3:12 PM, Bob W wrote: right click on a keyword to open a context menu which includes various options for working with keyword sets and hierarchies. B Hmmm... Nothing in there. If you can send me a screen shot off list, Bob... Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Adobe CS5 vs. Lightroom 3
Just jumping in here. I just saw a short interview with Scott Kelby. He was asked about his use of Lightroom and Photoshop. He said that is a little strange that the guy known as the Photoshop king does about 80% of his work in Lightroom. He also said that when he does go to Photoshop it is for creative as opposed to corrective or bulk work. GS www.GeorgesPhotos.net -- George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com www.georgesphotos.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: HSS with af 360 and K10D
Thanks Rick. I think i only tried it in P mode. Still looking for it, i know its in the house some were. Dave On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 10:35 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: Manual page 181. Camera to TV or M, flash to high-speed sync. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Fri, 8/6/10, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com Subject: HSS with af 360 and K10D To: Pentax Discuss pdml@pdml.net Date: Friday, August 6, 2010, 9:43 AM I;m looking for my manual as i speak, but, i thought if i set the af360 to HSS i could shoot over and above the 1/180 sync speed. I was trying to use fill flash for some bluejay pic's yesterday but could only shoot as high as 1/180. I had the flash set on the hss mode, am i missing a step, Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Off to bicycle across Massachusetts in the PMC Challenge!
Sounds like a decent ride. 162 miles, i'm happy just to get through my 8.5 Km ride everyday.:-) Dave On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 7:59 PM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: Tomorrow Dr Lisa and I set off on a 162-mile bike ride (over 2 days) From Wellesley to Provincetown. The Pan-Mass Challenge, rather than a contest to see who can make the heaviest or lightest cooking pot, is a charity bike ride that raises money for the Dana-Farber Cancer Institute. One of the best research institutes of its kind on the world according to Dr Lisa, who should know. I'll be back with a report and photos on Monday (should I survive the ride, anyway). P.S. Thanks to the PDML members - you know who you are - who've donated a buck or two. http://www.pmc.org/profile/MR0239 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: HSS with af 360 and K10D
If it were me, it would be faster to download another copy from the Pentax website. GS On Saturday, August 7, 2010, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Rick. I think i only tried it in P mode. Still looking for it, i know its in the house some were. Dave -- George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com www.georgesphotos.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Monaro Drift
On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 10:51 PM, Doug Franklin jehosep...@mindspring.com wrote: On 2010-08-06 19:25, frank theriault wrote: Phil, do I understand that a Monero is the Aussie version of a Pontiac Grand Prix? If so, the mechanics can't be the same, as the Pontiac is a FWD car, and clearly from the smoking rear tires, the Monero is RWD. Or is it tricked out for drifting? I believe it's the reverse ... the GTO (not the Grand Prix) is a US version of the Monaro. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) The GTO was indeed a lightly restyled Monaro. Nice car, one of the few GM did in recent memory. Didn't sell though, arguably due to poor promotion and the restrained styling. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Peso Gear down.
Spent an hour or so Friday shooting bluejays in the back yard. I tried to get shots of them landing on the old BBQ but failed miserably. This was the best. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11391240 K10D D FA 50-200 Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESOs - Pink and Blue Suede
On 8/7/2010 7:45 AM, Chris Mitchell wrote: Bob W Sent: 07 August 2010 10:12 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: PESOs - Pink and Blue Suede My own blue suede shoes: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/4867617684/ Nice! I wish I had photos of my blue suede shoes. Unfortunately, they predated my interest in photography by several years, and I haven't seen any family snapshots that managed to capture them. It was the mid 1970s, so they were two tone (robin's egg blue and navy blue) with 2 heels ... about a fourth the length of my hair at the time. :-) I was about twelve then. I used to wear blue suede desert boots in the mid-70s. God knows why. The 70s - the decade that fashion forgot? No the decade we wish fashion forgot. -- Here's something to think about: How come you never see a headline like 'Psychic Wins Lottery'? --Jay Leno -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Five Swans and Thousands of Cormorants
On Fri, Aug 06, 2010 at 07:44:07PM -0400, frank theriault scripsit: Okay, maybe not thousands, but that almost solid line just below the trees is (believe it or not) a line of cormorants skimming across the water: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/08/five-swans-and-thousands-of-cormorants.html I've seen them skimming like that in the dozens, maybe even up to 50 or so, but never like that. Any idea what they're up to when they do that? It looks like they're just doing it for the fun of it! It's the start of fall migration, and they're practising flocking, probably. You get substantial groups flying out to feed together, but that's a migration-scale flock. -- Graydon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso Gear down.
Nice sharp photograph of cowering peanuts... On 8/7/2010 9:21 AM, David J Brooks wrote: Spent an hour or so Friday shooting bluejays in the back yard. I tried to get shots of them landing on the old BBQ but failed miserably. This was the best. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11391240 K10D D FA 50-200 Dave -- Here's something to think about: How come you never see a headline like 'Psychic Wins Lottery'? --Jay Leno -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso Gear down.
The slight over exposure of the peanuts (on my monitor) and Jay blur makes me curious as to the camera settings. This sort of catch is extremely difficult due to the virtual impossibility of panning and then stopping on a mark. Jack --- On Sat, 8/7/10, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com Subject: Peso Gear down. To: Pentax Discuss pdml@pdml.net, Barbara Brooks bbaro...@gmail.com, Petch Dianne dianne.pe...@yahoo.com Cc: Home Sarah sarah.h...@firstgroup.com, Conley Leah leah.con...@firstgroup.com, Smillie Dale dale.smil...@firstgroup.com, Wonch Joyce joyce.wo...@firstgroup.com Date: Saturday, August 7, 2010, 6:21 AM Spent an hour or so Friday shooting bluejays in the back yard. I tried to get shots of them landing on the old BBQ but failed miserably. This was the best. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11391240 K10D D FA 50-200 Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESOs - Pink and Blue Suede
On 2010-08-07 7:45, Chris Mitchell wrote: The 70s - the decade that fashion forgot? I don't think it forgot, I think it was still having flashbacks from the 60s. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO 2010 - 130 - GDG
A new photo and scribbling available for your pleasure http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com/in-motion comments always appreciated, thanks for looking. Godfrey -- http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax SMC FA 24-90 mini review with samples
Glad to see you are enjoying the lens. Paired well with the Zx-5n. For me, the FOV was better on 35mm than APS-C because it isn't wide enough at the short end. If you think that the build is plasticky, it's pretty much the same as the FA 28-105/3.2-4.5. They are roughly the same length when fully extended (and slightly wobbly), with the 24-90 being just a bit larger in circumference. Have a nice weekend. Pat On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 4:29 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/08/pentax-fa-24-9035-45-if-al-mini-review.html All in all - I am very happy about my yet another recent acquisition. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Boris PESO 34 - Modern times
Gee, when I was younger, all we had were string can phones. lol Nice capture. Pat On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 4:05 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! Spotted this happy couple in the park... http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/08/peso-2010-35-modern-times.html Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Adobe CS5 vs. Lightroom 3
-- From: George Sinos Subject: Re: Adobe CS5 vs. Lightroom 3 Just jumping in here. I just saw a short interview with Scott Kelby. He was asked about his use of Lightroom and Photoshop. He said that is a little strange that the guy known as the Photoshop king does about 80% of his work in Lightroom. He also said that when he does go to Photoshop it is for creative as opposed to corrective or bulk work. This is how Lightroom/Photoshop should be used. I suppose it isn't surprising that Kelby knows this, he's the founding father and I believe the president of NAAP. Anyway, I import everything via Lightroom, since I can add appropriate keywords and the like at that time. I use Lightroom for what I consider the prep work to my editing process. I use it for setting white balance, flagging the picks and that sort of thing. Any web galleries I've done over the past couple of years have been generated by Lightroom. Once I'm past that stage, I'm pretty much done with Lightroom, and I then move on to Photoshop. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K7 sharpness question
-- From: paul stenquist Subject: Re: K7 sharpness question On Aug 7, 2010, at 3:41 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: - Original Message - From: William Robb war...@gmail.com Perhaps stopping down a little bit would improve things? Good point Depends on what lens you're shooting with. The DA* 50-135 is sharpest at f4. I believe the 16-50 is as well. Correct me if I'm wrong, but f/4 on both of those lenses is stopped down a bit? William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Semi OT: Some fond memories
-- From: Walter Hamler Subject: Semi OT: Some fond memories http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jaiq_ZZ_eMfeature=player_embedded# I think we all had fun with these in our time. Shot my first porn with one of those. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Should the K10D switch batteries automatically? (and a GESO)
-- From: Derby Chang Subject: Should the K10D switch batteries automatically? (and a GESO) Had the K10D with grip, the venerable *istDS and mostly primes. On the K10D, I have the battery selection set to grip first. I seem to recall it should switch automatically to the body battery when it poops out. But I had to change the menu setting or swap batteries. A good battery works in both slots, and the level indication in the menu setting works seems to be telling the truth. No switching goodness though. Depending on the settings. I use grip first as well. On the k10/k20, when the first battery dies, you have to switch the camera off and back on to make it change to the alternate battery. I found it annoying at first, but realized it's a good thing to know when battery one has failed and the camera has switched to battery two. If you don't like this behaviour, set the camera to use the best battery, it will wear them both down relatively evenly and then when the camera dies, you change both batteries out. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K7 sharpness question
On Aug 7, 2010, at 11:10 AM, William Robb wrote: -- From: paul stenquist Subject: Re: K7 sharpness question On Aug 7, 2010, at 3:41 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: - Original Message - From: William Robb war...@gmail.com Perhaps stopping down a little bit would improve things? Good point Depends on what lens you're shooting with. The DA* 50-135 is sharpest at f4. I believe the 16-50 is as well. Correct me if I'm wrong, but f/4 on both of those lenses is stopped down a bit? William Robb You're right, but I believe she was shooting at f4. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Adobe CS5 vs. Lightroom 3
On Aug 7, 2010, at 11:08 AM, William Robb wrote: -- From: George Sinos Subject: Re: Adobe CS5 vs. Lightroom 3 Just jumping in here. I just saw a short interview with Scott Kelby. He was asked about his use of Lightroom and Photoshop. He said that is a little strange that the guy known as the Photoshop king does about 80% of his work in Lightroom. He also said that when he does go to Photoshop it is for creative as opposed to corrective or bulk work. This is how Lightroom/Photoshop should be used. I suppose it isn't surprising that Kelby knows this, he's the founding father and I believe the president of NAAP. Anyway, I import everything via Lightroom, since I can add appropriate keywords and the like at that time. I use Lightroom for what I consider the prep work to my editing process. I use it for setting white balance, flagging the picks and that sort of thing. Any web galleries I've done over the past couple of years have been generated by Lightroom. Once I'm past that stage, I'm pretty much done with Lightroom, and I then move on to Photoshop. William Robb I spent about 45 minutes in Lightroom this morning, which is probably the most time I've ever given it. I can see that it might offer some advantages to my workflow. I may eventually use it the way you are using it. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K7 sharpness question
-- From: paul stenquist Subject: Re: K7 sharpness question Perhaps stopping down a little bit would improve things? Good point Depends on what lens you're shooting with. The DA* 50-135 is sharpest at f4. I believe the 16-50 is as well. Correct me if I'm wrong, but f/4 on both of those lenses is stopped down a bit? You're right, but I believe she was shooting at f4. I believe the 16-45/4 is an f/4 maximum aperture. I could be mistaken. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Boris PESO 34 - Modern times
Boris Liberman wrote: Hi! Spotted this happy couple in the park... http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/08/peso-2010-35-modern-times.html Boris that's a chuckle :) ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso Gear down.
On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: The slight over exposure of the peanuts (on my monitor) and Jay blur makes me curious as to the camera settings. It showed under exposure, slightly, on the LCD histogram. However the histogram in LR showed clipping, so i eliminated it, but one big problem i have with these blue jay shots in the peanuts being blown out. My one big nit with this K10D is blown high lites when they really shouldn't be., Could be the lens used.?? This sort of catch is extremely difficult due to the virtual impossibility of panning and then stopping on a mark. I don't pan on these Jack, i just position the camera and fire the shutter when i thing the bird is in the FOV. Dave Jack --- On Sat, 8/7/10, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com Subject: Peso Gear down. To: Pentax Discuss pdml@pdml.net, Barbara Brooks bbaro...@gmail.com, Petch Dianne dianne.pe...@yahoo.com Cc: Home Sarah sarah.h...@firstgroup.com, Conley Leah leah.con...@firstgroup.com, Smillie Dale dale.smil...@firstgroup.com, Wonch Joyce joyce.wo...@firstgroup.com Date: Saturday, August 7, 2010, 6:21 AM Spent an hour or so Friday shooting bluejays in the back yard. I tried to get shots of them landing on the old BBQ but failed miserably. This was the best. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11391240 K10D D FA 50-200 Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso Gear down.
On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: The slight over exposure of the peanuts (on my monitor) and Jay blur makes me curious as to the camera settings. Sorry, i forgot to add: 1/400 at f5.6 at 200mm ISO at 200. Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Five Swans and Thousands of Cormorants
I like the composition. Looks like they are getting ready to fly out and see Bruce and Jack.;-) Dave On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 7:44 PM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Okay, maybe not thousands, but that almost solid line just below the trees is (believe it or not) a line of cormorants skimming across the water: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/08/five-swans-and-thousands-of-cormorants.html I've seen them skimming like that in the dozens, maybe even up to 50 or so, but never like that. Any idea what they're up to when they do that? It looks like they're just doing it for the fun of it! Not a great photo, I know. I'm showing it more for the content (ie: all them damn cormorants!) than the artistic value... Hope you like. Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 2010 - 130 - GDG
Well done. I like the not over bearing swirls and the rendering is wonderful Dave On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi ramar...@mac.com wrote: A new photo and scribbling available for your pleasure http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com/in-motion comments always appreciated, thanks for looking. Godfrey -- http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso Gear down.
I did assume that, Dave. My point was that panning wasn't an option and that you had done exactly as you stated. In which case you would need a bit more shutter speed for the Jay. =) Jack --- On Sat, 8/7/10, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Peso Gear down. To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Saturday, August 7, 2010, 10:20 AM On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: The slight over exposure of the peanuts (on my monitor) and Jay blur makes me curious as to the camera settings. It showed under exposure, slightly, on the LCD histogram. However the histogram in LR showed clipping, so i eliminated it, but one big problem i have with these blue jay shots in the peanuts being blown out. My one big nit with this K10D is blown high lites when they really shouldn't be., Could be the lens used.?? This sort of catch is extremely difficult due to the virtual impossibility of panning and then stopping on a mark. I don't pan on these Jack, i just position the camera and fire the shutter when i thing the bird is in the FOV. Dave Jack --- On Sat, 8/7/10, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com Subject: Peso Gear down. To: Pentax Discuss pdml@pdml.net, Barbara Brooks bbaro...@gmail.com, Petch Dianne dianne.pe...@yahoo.com Cc: Home Sarah sarah.h...@firstgroup.com, Conley Leah leah.con...@firstgroup.com, Smillie Dale dale.smil...@firstgroup.com, Wonch Joyce joyce.wo...@firstgroup.com Date: Saturday, August 7, 2010, 6:21 AM Spent an hour or so Friday shooting bluejays in the back yard. I tried to get shots of them landing on the old BBQ but failed miserably. This was the best. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11391240 K10D D FA 50-200 Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso Gear down.
Opps, sorry.:-) Ya i think i need 800 or higher. I'll be working on this for a while. I'm still on vacation for another 4 weeks,. Hopefully i can get one good shot.:-) Dave On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: I did assume that, Dave. My point was that panning wasn't an option and that you had done exactly as you stated. In which case you would need a bit more shutter speed for the Jay. =) Jack --- On Sat, 8/7/10, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Peso Gear down. To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Saturday, August 7, 2010, 10:20 AM On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: The slight over exposure of the peanuts (on my monitor) and Jay blur makes me curious as to the camera settings. It showed under exposure, slightly, on the LCD histogram. However the histogram in LR showed clipping, so i eliminated it, but one big problem i have with these blue jay shots in the peanuts being blown out. My one big nit with this K10D is blown high lites when they really shouldn't be., Could be the lens used.?? This sort of catch is extremely difficult due to the virtual impossibility of panning and then stopping on a mark. I don't pan on these Jack, i just position the camera and fire the shutter when i thing the bird is in the FOV. Dave Jack --- On Sat, 8/7/10, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com Subject: Peso Gear down. To: Pentax Discuss pdml@pdml.net, Barbara Brooks bbaro...@gmail.com, Petch Dianne dianne.pe...@yahoo.com Cc: Home Sarah sarah.h...@firstgroup.com, Conley Leah leah.con...@firstgroup.com, Smillie Dale dale.smil...@firstgroup.com, Wonch Joyce joyce.wo...@firstgroup.com Date: Saturday, August 7, 2010, 6:21 AM Spent an hour or so Friday shooting bluejays in the back yard. I tried to get shots of them landing on the old BBQ but failed miserably. This was the best. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11391240 K10D D FA 50-200 Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Adobe CS5 vs. Lightroom 3
As a slight aside here, I have been using Photoshop CS (version 8) for a few years and never updated past that - but since I have effectively stopped my stills photography, I am now using CS more and more for a lot of my video graphics. The nice thing about it is I can save the artwork as .PSD files and they import straight into Final Cut, even as layers if required. This gives me excellent control in Final Cut and it all looks great. If I were starting out again in stills and wanted to organise my work, I'd try Lightroom and Aperture for sure - I think the workflow thing with a prolific photographer would be pretty crucial. That said, I'm so comfortable with CS that I wouldn't give it up. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K7 sharpness question
On Aug 7, 2010, at 1:12 PM, William Robb wrote: -- From: paul stenquist Subject: Re: K7 sharpness question Perhaps stopping down a little bit would improve things? Good point Depends on what lens you're shooting with. The DA* 50-135 is sharpest at f4. I believe the 16-50 is as well. Correct me if I'm wrong, but f/4 on both of those lenses is stopped down a bit? You're right, but I believe she was shooting at f4. I believe the 16-45/4 is an f/4 maximum aperture. I could be mistaken. I thought she was shooting with the 16-50, which of course is a 2.8 and is sharpest at f4. Mea culpa. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT - Balanced Audio Question, Rob, Cory?
Was going to write to Rob and Cory off list but I'll throw it open as I'm a glutton for punishment and someone somewhere might glean a tidbit here. Wiring explanation please! I'm coming out of a portable computer and going into a Fostex squawkbox. The computer audio out is stereo 3.5mm TRS (mini-jack) and the Fostex is a standard XLR in. Obviously I'm wanting to take the stereo signal and listen to it through a single mono speaker. I've bought a 3.5mm male to XLR male lead but the sound is crap and only hearing one side! In my Land Rover I use a stereo system - a 3.5mm lead out of the Macbook to 2 RCA females and then another lead with 2 RCA males leading to 2 XLR males which go into 2 Fostex speakers (don't ask, it's what I had in the parts bin). This gives me left and right audio as needed while editing. I took half of this setup off the Land Rover and popped it onto my single Fostex in the house and that works fine. But the lead I bought doesn't :-( So - take me through from the 3.5mm jack into the lead and at the XLR end, what should be connected to what? Obviously I've got 3 wires from the 3.5mm jack - tip, ring and sleeve - which goes to which of the 3 terminals on the XLR - 1 Chassis, 2 hot, 3 return. Answers on a postcard please. Then copy by hand onto a reply email :-))) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso Gear down.
I'm still on vacation for another 4 weeks,. Hopefully i can get one good shot.:-) MARK ! Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Peso Gear down. Opps, sorry.:-) Ya i think i need 800 or higher. I'll be working on this for a while. I'm still on vacation for another 4 weeks,. Hopefully i can get one good shot.:-) Dave On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: I did assume that, Dave. My point was that panning wasn't an option and that you had done exactly as you stated. In which case you would need a bit more shutter speed for the Jay. =) Jack --- On Sat, 8/7/10, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Peso Gear down. To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Saturday, August 7, 2010, 10:20 AM On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: The slight over exposure of the peanuts (on my monitor) and Jay blur makes me curious as to the camera settings. It showed under exposure, slightly, on the LCD histogram. However the histogram in LR showed clipping, so i eliminated it, but one big problem i have with these blue jay shots in the peanuts being blown out. My one big nit with this K10D is blown high lites when they really shouldn't be., Could be the lens used.?? This sort of catch is extremely difficult due to the virtual impossibility of panning and then stopping on a mark. I don't pan on these Jack, i just position the camera and fire the shutter when i thing the bird is in the FOV. Dave Jack --- On Sat, 8/7/10, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com Subject: Peso Gear down. To: Pentax Discuss pdml@pdml.net, Date: Saturday, August 7, 2010, 6:21 AM Spent an hour or so Friday shooting bluejays in the back yard. I tried to get shots of them landing on the old BBQ but failed miserably. This was the best. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11391240 K10D D FA 50-200 Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Five Swans and Thousands of Cormorants
Can't wait for all those migratory birds to come down and winter here in the Valley of the Sun! Jerry From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - Five Swans and Thousands of Cormorants Message-ID: aanlktimrp5wvy8achdm_-nf+snun2y9eiumvsp0dz...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I like the composition. Looks like they are getting ready to fly out and see Bruce and Jack.;-) Dave On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 7:44 PM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Okay, maybe not thousands, but that almost solid line just below the trees is (believe it or not) a line of cormorants skimming across the water: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/08/five-swans-and-thousands-of-cormorants.html l I've seen them skimming like that in the dozens, maybe even up to 50 or so, but never like that. ?Any idea what they're up to when they do that? ?It looks like they're just doing it for the fun of it! Not a great photo, I know. ?I'm showing it more for the content (ie: all them damn cormorants!) than the artistic value... Hope you like. ?Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 2010 - 130 - GDG
Thanks Dave! On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 10:31 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: Well done. I like the not over bearing swirls and the rendering is wonderful Dave On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi ramar...@mac.com wrote: A new photo and scribbling available for your pleasure http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com/in-motion comments always appreciated, thanks for looking. Godfrey -- http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
re: another slight aside
Cotty, are you still running Apple-PowerPC systems or are you on Apple-Intel systems now? If you're on Apple-Intel systems, you really want to move to Photohop CS3 at least for performance reasons. CS/CS2 are PowerPC executables, running in emulation on the current generation of Apple hardware. CS3 is the first native-code version of Photoshop for Apple-Intel systems: the performance improvement is substantial. On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 11:19 AM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: As a slight aside here, I have been using Photoshop CS (version 8) for a few years and never updated past that - but since I have effectively stopped my stills photography, I am now using CS more and more for a lot of my video graphics. The nice thing about it is I can save the artwork as .PSD files and they import straight into Final Cut, even as layers if required. This gives me excellent control in Final Cut and it all looks great. If I were starting out again in stills and wanted to organise my work, I'd try Lightroom and Aperture for sure - I think the workflow thing with a prolific photographer would be pretty crucial. That said, I'm so comfortable with CS that I wouldn't give it up. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Adobe CS5 vs. Lightroom 3
In my world at least,and I suspect in many others, proflic great, prolific good. The good ones, ones worth keeping are far and few between, and the excellent ones even more rare. So routinely running a bunch of images through a workflow, only to have done so, and then writing them to some directory on a hard drive, possibly not to be viewed again (the vast majority not worthy of further processing), is a bit akin to taking a roll of film down to the local 'one size fits all 1 hour mini-lab', getting the prints and negs back, and then throwing them in a box somewhere. Again this is for me, and the way I work. I can tell quickly when looking at the RAW images, which are worthy of futher consideration and which are dustbin fodder. And those worthy of further consideration, aside from a handful, here or there, will likely not benefit from the same post-processing. So do those of you using workflow do it largely for organizational purposes? Tom C. If I were starting out again in stills and wanted to organise my work, I'd try Lightroom and Aperture for sure - I think the workflow thing with a prolific photographer would be pretty crucial. That said, I'm so comfortable with CS that I wouldn't give it up. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
FS - 645 and lenses
Hi gang. I need to sell my 645 kit. Included are the manual focus body with front and rear caps, 120 and 220 film magazines with holders, A200/4, A120/4 Macro (best lens ever, IMHO), A45/2.8 with 45-125 hood, A35/3.5 with case. The A35 has the original front cap, the 200 and 120 have newer Pentax caps and the 45 has a generic cap. All four have original rear caps. Also included are a #1 extension tube, an extra rear lens cap and one of those big D-shaped eyepieces. $600US plus shipping for all of it. Thanks! -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ __o _'\,_ (*)/ (*) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
last call for August PUG - Speed
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Re: Adobe CS5 vs. Lightroom 3
On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: ... So do those of you using workflow do it largely for organizational purposes? The question is rather odd. The term workflow can be applied to any sequenced series of steps that take you from one state to another in accomplishing a task. Conceptually, a computer program is a very precise workflow. We use workflows to do everything ... Surely you don't mean that you do your image processing by randomly pushing and shoving on various controls until something looks good? That's a scary thought: a terribly inefficient way to do it. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Balanced Audio Question, Rob, Cory?
Cotty, I think this should work: http://www.mediacollege.com/audio/connection/xlr-jack-stereo.html In addition, here's a LOT of words and some photos that are likely more than most people want to know about TRS and TS and TRRS connectors: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRS_connector And if you want to send some of those Fostex speakers you have lying about over there, I'll gladly accept them. I have several of the 6301s in use at the Dome. They're heavy (read: Rugged) and louder than the ought to be for their size. Cory On 8/7/2010 2:36 PM, Cotty wrote: Was going to write to Rob and Cory off list but I'll throw it open as I'm a glutton for punishment and someone somewhere might glean a tidbit here. Wiring explanation please! I'm coming out of a portable computer and going into a Fostex squawkbox. The computer audio out is stereo 3.5mm TRS (mini-jack) and the Fostex is a standard XLR in. Obviously I'm wanting to take the stereo signal and listen to it through a single mono speaker. I've bought a 3.5mm male to XLR male lead but the sound is crap and only hearing one side! In my Land Rover I use a stereo system - a 3.5mm lead out of the Macbook to 2 RCA females and then another lead with 2 RCA males leading to 2 XLR males which go into 2 Fostex speakers (don't ask, it's what I had in the parts bin). This gives me left and right audio as needed while editing. I took half of this setup off the Land Rover and popped it onto my single Fostex in the house and that works fine. But the lead I bought doesn't :-( So - take me through from the 3.5mm jack into the lead and at the XLR end, what should be connected to what? Obviously I've got 3 wires from the 3.5mm jack - tip, ring and sleeve - which goes to which of the 3 terminals on the XLR - 1 Chassis, 2 hot, 3 return. Answers on a postcard please. Then copy by hand onto a reply email :-))) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3056 - Release Date: 08/07/10 02:28:00 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: another slight aside
On 2010-08-07 13:26 , Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: If you're on Apple-Intel systems, you really want to move to Photohop CS3 at least for performance reasons. CS/CS2 are PowerPC executables, running in emulation on the current generation of Apple hardware. CS3 is the first native-code version of Photoshop for Apple-Intel systems: the performance improvement is substantial. while it's not as fast, CS2 runs without problem on Intel Macs (my experience is up through Mac OS X 10.5); the Intel-native version is quicker and has new features, and is an obvious choice for commercial production use, but for basic work where speed isn't the crucial factor, i've found CS2 to be completely adequate the PowerPC emulation in Mac OS X is surprisingly good; in fact i just did some basic editing on some 200 MB TIFFs (scans of plat maps) the other day and didn't really notice any lags (i have 8GB RAM, which helps); it sure beats the Quadra 950 with 128MB of RAM with which i used to do compositing for prepress i'm likely to upgrade sometime soon, but it won't be because CS2 is too slow -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Adobe CS5 vs. Lightroom 3
I don't find it odd at all. Of course, I asked it. What I find odd is that one would use an *automated* *image adjustment workflow* in a manner that is like taking ones images to a 3rd party processor and having all images processed using the same parameters. One might get consistently mediocre or even decent results, but likely not optimal, unless each image in the batch being processed was very similar, and the adjustments were tuned to that batch or standard set of shooting conditions. No surely, I don't mean that, and surely you don't believe me to be that stupid. Tom C. On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 4:05 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: ... So do those of you using workflow do it largely for organizational purposes? The question is rather odd. The term workflow can be applied to any sequenced series of steps that take you from one state to another in accomplishing a task. Conceptually, a computer program is a very precise workflow. We use workflows to do everything ... Surely you don't mean that you do your image processing by randomly pushing and shoving on various controls until something looks good? That's a scary thought: a terribly inefficient way to do it. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Balanced Audio Question, Rob, Cory?
On 7/8/10, Cory Waters, discombobulated, unleashed: Cotty, I think this should work: http://www.mediacollege.com/audio/connection/xlr-jack-stereo.html Thanks mate I will - Mrs has a DVD of Crazy Heart which I am told I have to watch. Then I will have a look at above. In addition, here's a LOT of words and some photos that are likely more than most people want to know about TRS and TS and TRRS connectors: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRS_connector And if you want to send some of those Fostex speakers you have lying about over there, I'll gladly accept them. I have several of the 6301s in use at the Dome. They're heavy (read: Rugged) and louder than the ought to be for their size. I have 3 X 6301B speakers - 2 in the Land Rover and one I use as a squawk box for demos etc. Hey, I know I could use a pair of cheapo computer speakers but when I arrive in a client's conference room and ask them to 'just put this speaker over there would you' I like to watch their eyebrows ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Adobe CS5 vs. Lightroom 3
-- From: Tom C Subject: Re: Adobe CS5 vs. Lightroom 3 In my world at least,and I suspect in many others, proflic great, prolific good. The good ones, ones worth keeping are far and few between, and the excellent ones even more rare. So routinely running a bunch of images through a workflow, only to have done so, and then writing them to some directory on a hard drive, possibly not to be viewed again (the vast majority not worthy of further processing), is a bit akin to taking a roll of film down to the local 'one size fits all 1 hour mini-lab', getting the prints and negs back, and then throwing them in a box somewhere. Again this is for me, and the way I work. I can tell quickly when looking at the RAW images, which are worthy of futher consideration and which are dustbin fodder. And those worthy of further consideration, aside from a handful, here or there, will likely not benefit from the same post-processing. So do those of you using workflow do it largely for organizational purposes? That's about all I use Lightroom for. While I am an inveterate hoarder, someone who bins images that they don't thin worth keeping would have a great time with Lightroom, since you can go through a directory very quickly, sort out the gobbets of fresh meat from the cesspool of entrails and trash what looks yucky very quickly. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESOs - Pink and Blue Suede
From: Doug Franklin On 2010-08-06 20:49, John Sessoms wrote: My own blue suede shoes: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/4867617684/ Nice! I wish I had photos of my blue suede shoes. Unfortunately, they predated my interest in photography by several years, and I haven't seen any family snapshots that managed to capture them. It was the mid 1970s, so they were two tone (robin's egg blue and navy blue) with 2 heels ... about a fourth the length of my hair at the time. :-) I was about twelve then. Other than a period of about 4 years in the mid to late 70s while I was married, I've had a pair since the 60s. Those are just a pair of Hush Puppies I ordered through a local department store ... I'd guess maybe in the late 90s. Don't wear them enough to wear them out. Some idiot might step on 'em. ;-D -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Adobe CS5 vs. Lightroom 3
On 2010-08-07 13:43 , Tom C wrote: So do those of you using workflow do it largely for organizational purposes? yes, my workflow is largely about organization; early on i set aside the larger portion of images, but i also quickly process them in order to be able to find them later, except for those i completely discard these first passes take only a few minutes for a day's worth of photos; it is after this that i work on adjustments and selections among a smaller set of photos; Aperture (or Lightroom) makes it easy to focus on more worthy images after the initial filtering has been done in my consulting i have a specialty in workflow for publishing and other environments; it is not only in photography that one can have large sets of items to organize and act upon; i have often found myself working with fairly limited tools to construct a workflow, so it's very refreshing how highly evolved Lightroom and Aperture are as workflow tools; nonetheless one still has to think and be open to experimentation to develop an effective workflow -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: last call for August PUG - Speed
Scott Loveless wrote: Submit photos here: http://pdmlpug.org/?page_id=54 ok - I'll get one in this evening! ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Semi OT: Some fond memories
Why does that NOT surprise me :-) Walt On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 11:13 AM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: Shot my first porn with one of those. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Should the K10D switch batteries automatically? (and a GESO)
William Robb wrote: -- From: Derby Chang Subject: Should the K10D switch batteries automatically? (and a GESO) Had the K10D with grip, the venerable *istDS and mostly primes. On the K10D, I have the battery selection set to grip first. I seem to recall it should switch automatically to the body battery when it poops out. But I had to change the menu setting or swap batteries. A good battery works in both slots, and the level indication in the menu setting works seems to be telling the truth. No switching goodness though. Depending on the settings. I use grip first as well. On the k10/k20, when the first battery dies, you have to switch the camera off and back on to make it change to the alternate battery. I found it annoying at first, but realized it's a good thing to know when battery one has failed and the camera has switched to battery two. If you don't like this behaviour, set the camera to use the best battery, it will wear them both down relatively evenly and then when the camera dies, you change both batteries out. William Robb Thanks Bill, that makes sense. I do have a feeling I might have switched the camera off and on, but I should check it. Derby -- der...@iinet.net.au http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K7 sharpness question
- Original Message - From: paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 1:34 PM Subject: Re: K7 sharpness question On Aug 7, 2010, at 1:12 PM, William Robb wrote: -- From: paul stenquist Subject: Re: K7 sharpness question Perhaps stopping down a little bit would improve things? Good point Depends on what lens you're shooting with. The DA* 50-135 is sharpest at f4. I believe the 16-50 is as well. Correct me if I'm wrong, but f/4 on both of those lenses is stopped down a bit? You're right, but I believe she was shooting at f4. I believe the 16-45/4 is an f/4 maximum aperture. I could be mistaken. I thought she was shooting with the 16-50, which of course is a 2.8 and is sharpest at f4. Mea culpa. William Robb Yep, I used the 16-45 f4. Help very much appreciated guys! Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Adobe CS5 vs. Lightroom 3
On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 1:33 PM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: What I find odd is that one would use an *automated* *image adjustment workflow* in a manner that is like taking ones images to a 3rd party processor and having all images processed using the same parameters. ... a) Who said anything about an *automated image adjustment workflow*? b) Where do you find this to be the case in the use of Lightroom? You can apply the same adjustments to as many or as few image simultaneously as you want. You can apply any specifically different adjustments you want to any individual image you want at any time you want. In other words, with Lightroom, you can automate doing as much, or as little, of the workflow as is sensible for what you are trying to achieve. You're speaking as someone who presumes quite a lot but knows quite little about using Lightroom. I suggest you go to one of the several free sites offering Lightroom tutorials and work your way through a few of them so that you understand it better before you make statements about how it works. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K7 sharpness question
- Original Message - From: Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 7:12 AM Subject: Re: K7 sharpness question They look pretty good overall. Some are a tad flat and might benefit from your punching up the contrast.(?) I've never tried sharpening totally within the camera. Thanks, Jack. I'll take another look at the contrast. Much appreciated. Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Semi OT: Some fond memories
Cam you imagine what it was like? On 8/7/2010 5:08 PM, Walter Hamler wrote: Why does that NOT surprise me :-) Walt On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 11:13 AM, William Robbwar...@gmail.com wrote: Shot my first porn with one of those. William Robb -- Here's something to think about: How come you never see a headline like 'Psychic Wins Lottery'? --Jay Leno -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESOs - Pink and Blue Suede
- Original Message - From: Bob W p...@web-options.com To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 4:11 AM Subject: RE: PESOs - Pink and Blue Suede My own blue suede shoes: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/4867617684/ Nice! I wish I had photos of my blue suede shoes. Unfortunately, they predated my interest in photography by several years, and I haven't seen any family snapshots that managed to capture them. It was the mid 1970s, so they were two tone (robin's egg blue and navy blue) with 2 heels ... about a fourth the length of my hair at the time. :-) I was about twelve then. I used to wear blue suede desert boots in the mid-70s. God knows why. When I was young, I had a pair of Converse blue suede gym shoes. They were beautiful to look at. But, my natural foot perspiration caused the blue dye to stain my feet or socks--mostly feet, since I seldom wore socks with gym shoes in the summer. Took a while for that blue dye to go away. Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: some progress
I've spent the day in Bridge re-organizing my back catalog. I'm trying achieve a consistent naming scheme that identifies the camera and keeps all the files in the sequence they were taken - e.g. istD_n.xxx, K10D_.xxx ... five digits allows for when the shutter goes past . I preserve the original file name when I do a batch rename in Bridge. IIRC, I got my K10D in late March 2007 and didn't notice the date was wrong (527 days 5 hours) until sometime in August. Even though I reset the date, I actually did not get it set completely correctly until October. It makes me crazy because I organize in folders by date mmdd_location-job_name, and having the wrong date in the EXIF makes it very difficult to figure out what the date should be for the folder. Finally figured out how to get Exiftool to work and what arguments to pass to it so the date would be adjusted correctly. Tested it out on copies in a different folder until I was sure the correction was getting the right date. Now Date Created shows up correctly in Bridge Metadata, but the Date File Modified is still wrong, showing the original screwed up date. Eventually I'll get that one figured out too. Just realized I have to 2005 and fix the ist-D files because I forgot to change the Time-Zone when I got home from Iraq and Iraq is about 11 hours ahead. IIRC, I finally noticed that some time in 2006. Made sure I checked and set all the dates/times today ... *istD was off by an hour (not set to daylight time) and K10D was 53 min fast - K20D was 1 min fast. All had the correct time zone. I still need to go back and start key-wording my back catalog. I'm expecting to pick up Lightroom 3 this next semester. Would it be better to key-word with that or to continue in Bridge. Will Lightroom update the sidecar files I've already created using Bridge, or does it keep it's own key-word list? Or, looking at it from the other direction, will Bridge see the key-words that Lightroom adds? Got out to shoot yesterday, and I'll probably get out again this evening. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: another slight aside
On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 1:29 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: while it's not as fast, CS2 runs without problem on Intel Macs (my experience is up through Mac OS X 10.5); the Intel-native version is quicker and has new features, and is an obvious choice for commercial production use, but for basic work where speed isn't the crucial factor, i've found CS2 to be completely adequate the PowerPC emulation in Mac OS X is surprisingly good; in fact i just did some basic editing on some 200 MB TIFFs (scans of plat maps) the other day and didn't really notice any lags (i have 8GB RAM, which helps); it sure beats the Quadra 950 with 128MB of RAM with which i used to do compositing for prepress I'll extend your compliment to the PowerPC emulation engineers at Apple. The three leads on that part of the system are buddies of mine since 1991. :-) I didn't say CS2 had problems running on the Apple-Intel box; I said performance was *significantly* improved. I just received a new Mac Mini with Core-Duo 2.66Ghz and 8G RAM, running Mac OS X Snow Leopard. Since I need Rosetta installed anyway for other applications, my first interest was to compare performance between CS2 and CS4. And since my PowerMac G5 (10.5.6, 8G RAM, etc) is still up and running with both applications installed, I tested it there too. test 1: I have a 250 step image manipulation script which stamps a start and end time into the image for this testing. I threw the same 60 Megabyte TIFF image file at both CS2 and CS4, running the identical script, three times each, on both machines. CS4 on the PowerPC system runs the script approximately 10% faster on average than CS2. CS2 on the Mac Mini runs the script approximately 5% faster than on the G5; CS4 on the Mac Mini runs the script approximately 60% faster than on the G5. test 2: CS4+ACR 5.7 processes 100 native K10D PEF files in 30% of the time that CS2+ACR 3.7 consumes on the Mac Mini. (I didn't run this test on the G5.) To me, performance improvements like that make the CS2 to CS4 upgrade fee trivial when I consider how much time it will save. It also means editing becomes FAR more responsive and fun. :-) -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Adobe CS5 vs. Lightroom 3
As is often the case, you assume I know much less than I do, and therefore interpret what I write as if I'm a total neophyte which is not the case. Maybe that's because you perceive yourself as superior? You didn't tell me one thing there that I didn't already know. Nor did I make a statement regarding how Lightroom works, in the post you just responded to. If you'd read everything I wrote you'd see I was talking about two different kinds of workflow. And of course, I don't know ALOT about using Lightroom as in my opening post I stated I downloaded the trial version of LR3. Go talk down to someone else. Tom C. On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 1:33 PM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: What I find odd is that one would use an *automated* *image adjustment workflow* in a manner that is like taking ones images to a 3rd party processor and having all images processed using the same parameters. ... a) Who said anything about an *automated image adjustment workflow*? b) Where do you find this to be the case in the use of Lightroom? You can apply the same adjustments to as many or as few image simultaneously as you want. You can apply any specifically different adjustments you want to any individual image you want at any time you want. In other words, with Lightroom, you can automate doing as much, or as little, of the workflow as is sensible for what you are trying to achieve. You're speaking as someone who presumes quite a lot but knows quite little about using Lightroom. I suggest you go to one of the several free sites offering Lightroom tutorials and work your way through a few of them so that you understand it better before you make statements about how it works. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: last call for August PUG - Speed
On 8/08/2010 06:01, Scott Loveless wrote: Submit photos here: http://pdmlpug.org/?page_id=54 Phew - made it! Regards, Pete Mac in western Sydney -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
NorCal PDML Dinner in San Francisco
If any of the NorCal PDMLers want to join Larry, Igor, and myself for dinner on Sunday, we will be meeting at the City College of San Francisco Wellness Center (Ocean Avenue at Howth St) at 6:20pm. Then we'll be heading off for dinner at Ninki Sushi at 1439 Taraval St (x-street 24th Ave). Pat -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Adobe CS5 vs. Lightroom 3
As is so often the case, what you wrote evidently didn't match what you meant to say. I'm sorry, I can't divine your intended meaning if you don't know how to write comprehensible English. I've been using Lightroom through all beta and release versions for five years, have produced 6,000+ completed images for paid assignments, personal projects and gallery exhibitions with it. I've been teaching Lightroom and Photoshop in workshop classes and 1:1 consulting sessions for two years. I've documented and reported 165 bugs with LR since 2006, 138 of which have been verified by Adobe and fixed in subsequent releases. I don't consider myself to be the definitive expert in LR: I continue to learn new aspects of using it as I work on new types of projects and produce more and more work with it. But I bet that I know a feck of a lot more about using it than you do, Tom. You might consider spending some time to learn how it is supposed to work and gaining skill in using it before pronouncing stupid judgments and making statements that express your lack of understanding. On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 2:38 PM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: As is often the case, you assume I know much less than I do, and therefore interpret what I write as if I'm a total neophyte which is not the case. Maybe that's because you perceive yourself as superior? You didn't tell me one thing there that I didn't already know. Nor did I make a statement regarding how Lightroom works, in the post you just responded to. If you'd read everything I wrote you'd see I was talking about two different kinds of workflow. And of course, I don't know ALOT about using Lightroom as in my opening post I stated I downloaded the trial version of LR3. Go talk down to someone else. Tom C. On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 1:33 PM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: What I find odd is that one would use an *automated* *image adjustment workflow* in a manner that is like taking ones images to a 3rd party processor and having all images processed using the same parameters. ... a) Who said anything about an *automated image adjustment workflow*? b) Where do you find this to be the case in the use of Lightroom? You can apply the same adjustments to as many or as few image simultaneously as you want. You can apply any specifically different adjustments you want to any individual image you want at any time you want. In other words, with Lightroom, you can automate doing as much, or as little, of the workflow as is sensible for what you are trying to achieve. You're speaking as someone who presumes quite a lot but knows quite little about using Lightroom. I suggest you go to one of the several free sites offering Lightroom tutorials and work your way through a few of them so that you understand it better before you make statements about how it works. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: some progress
John - One of the biggest advantages of converting to DNG is the elimination of sidecar files. Since Adobe understands the file layout, they can embed the information directly in the DNG. One less thing to keep track of. This has been a typical internet answer to a question that wasn't asked, all the while not answering the question you actually asked. George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com www.georgesphotos.net On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 4:28 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: I've spent the day in Bridge re-organizing my back catalog. I'm trying achieve a consistent naming scheme that identifies the camera and keeps all the files in the sequence they were taken - e.g. istD_n.xxx, K10D_.xxx ... five digits allows for when the shutter goes past . I preserve the original file name when I do a batch rename in Bridge. IIRC, I got my K10D in late March 2007 and didn't notice the date was wrong (527 days 5 hours) until sometime in August. Even though I reset the date, I actually did not get it set completely correctly until October. It makes me crazy because I organize in folders by date mmdd_location-job_name, and having the wrong date in the EXIF makes it very difficult to figure out what the date should be for the folder. Finally figured out how to get Exiftool to work and what arguments to pass to it so the date would be adjusted correctly. Tested it out on copies in a different folder until I was sure the correction was getting the right date. Now Date Created shows up correctly in Bridge Metadata, but the Date File Modified is still wrong, showing the original screwed up date. Eventually I'll get that one figured out too. Just realized I have to 2005 and fix the ist-D files because I forgot to change the Time-Zone when I got home from Iraq and Iraq is about 11 hours ahead. IIRC, I finally noticed that some time in 2006. Made sure I checked and set all the dates/times today ... *istD was off by an hour (not set to daylight time) and K10D was 53 min fast - K20D was 1 min fast. All had the correct time zone. I still need to go back and start key-wording my back catalog. I'm expecting to pick up Lightroom 3 this next semester. Would it be better to key-word with that or to continue in Bridge. Will Lightroom update the sidecar files I've already created using Bridge, or does it keep it's own key-word list? Or, looking at it from the other direction, will Bridge see the key-words that Lightroom adds? Got out to shoot yesterday, and I'll probably get out again this evening. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Adobe CS5 vs. Lightroom 3
You still didn't get it. On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote: As is so often the case, what you wrote evidently didn't match what you meant to say. I'm sorry, I can't divine your intended meaning if you don't know how to write comprehensible English. I've been using Lightroom through all beta and release versions for five years, have produced 6,000+ completed images for paid assignments, personal projects and gallery exhibitions with it. I've been teaching Lightroom and Photoshop in workshop classes and 1:1 consulting sessions for two years. I've documented and reported 165 bugs with LR since 2006, 138 of which have been verified by Adobe and fixed in subsequent releases. I don't consider myself to be the definitive expert in LR: I continue to learn new aspects of using it as I work on new types of projects and produce more and more work with it. But I bet that I know a feck of a lot more about using it than you do, Tom. You might consider spending some time to learn how it is supposed to work and gaining skill in using it before pronouncing stupid judgments and making statements that express your lack of understanding. On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 2:38 PM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: As is often the case, you assume I know much less than I do, and therefore interpret what I write as if I'm a total neophyte which is not the case. Maybe that's because you perceive yourself as superior? You didn't tell me one thing there that I didn't already know. Nor did I make a statement regarding how Lightroom works, in the post you just responded to. If you'd read everything I wrote you'd see I was talking about two different kinds of workflow. And of course, I don't know ALOT about using Lightroom as in my opening post I stated I downloaded the trial version of LR3. Go talk down to someone else. Tom C. On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 1:33 PM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: What I find odd is that one would use an *automated* *image adjustment workflow* in a manner that is like taking ones images to a 3rd party processor and having all images processed using the same parameters. ... a) Who said anything about an *automated image adjustment workflow*? b) Where do you find this to be the case in the use of Lightroom? You can apply the same adjustments to as many or as few image simultaneously as you want. You can apply any specifically different adjustments you want to any individual image you want at any time you want. In other words, with Lightroom, you can automate doing as much, or as little, of the workflow as is sensible for what you are trying to achieve. You're speaking as someone who presumes quite a lot but knows quite little about using Lightroom. I suggest you go to one of the several free sites offering Lightroom tutorials and work your way through a few of them so that you understand it better before you make statements about how it works. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Adobe CS5 vs. Lightroom 3
Ah, you want to be a clown. I get it. On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: You still didn't get it. On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote: As is so often the case, what you wrote evidently didn't match what you meant to say. I'm sorry, I can't divine your intended meaning if you don't know how to write comprehensible English. I've been using Lightroom through all beta and release versions for five years, have produced 6,000+ completed images for paid assignments, personal projects and gallery exhibitions with it. I've been teaching Lightroom and Photoshop in workshop classes and 1:1 consulting sessions for two years. I've documented and reported 165 bugs with LR since 2006, 138 of which have been verified by Adobe and fixed in subsequent releases. I don't consider myself to be the definitive expert in LR: I continue to learn new aspects of using it as I work on new types of projects and produce more and more work with it. But I bet that I know a feck of a lot more about using it than you do, Tom. You might consider spending some time to learn how it is supposed to work and gaining skill in using it before pronouncing stupid judgments and making statements that express your lack of understanding. On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 2:38 PM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: As is often the case, you assume I know much less than I do, and therefore interpret what I write as if I'm a total neophyte which is not the case. Maybe that's because you perceive yourself as superior? You didn't tell me one thing there that I didn't already know. Nor did I make a statement regarding how Lightroom works, in the post you just responded to. If you'd read everything I wrote you'd see I was talking about two different kinds of workflow. And of course, I don't know ALOT about using Lightroom as in my opening post I stated I downloaded the trial version of LR3. Go talk down to someone else. Tom C. On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 1:33 PM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: What I find odd is that one would use an *automated* *image adjustment workflow* in a manner that is like taking ones images to a 3rd party processor and having all images processed using the same parameters. ... a) Who said anything about an *automated image adjustment workflow*? b) Where do you find this to be the case in the use of Lightroom? You can apply the same adjustments to as many or as few image simultaneously as you want. You can apply any specifically different adjustments you want to any individual image you want at any time you want. In other words, with Lightroom, you can automate doing as much, or as little, of the workflow as is sensible for what you are trying to achieve. You're speaking as someone who presumes quite a lot but knows quite little about using Lightroom. I suggest you go to one of the several free sites offering Lightroom tutorials and work your way through a few of them so that you understand it better before you make statements about how it works. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Adobe CS5 vs. Lightroom 3
And you want to be an ***. On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 6:10 PM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: You still didn't get it. On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote: As is so often the case, what you wrote evidently didn't match what you meant to say. I'm sorry, I can't divine your intended meaning if you don't know how to write comprehensible English. I've been using Lightroom through all beta and release versions for five years, have produced 6,000+ completed images for paid assignments, personal projects and gallery exhibitions with it. I've been teaching Lightroom and Photoshop in workshop classes and 1:1 consulting sessions for two years. I've documented and reported 165 bugs with LR since 2006, 138 of which have been verified by Adobe and fixed in subsequent releases. I don't consider myself to be the definitive expert in LR: I continue to learn new aspects of using it as I work on new types of projects and produce more and more work with it. But I bet that I know a feck of a lot more about using it than you do, Tom. You might consider spending some time to learn how it is supposed to work and gaining skill in using it before pronouncing stupid judgments and making statements that express your lack of understanding. On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 2:38 PM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: As is often the case, you assume I know much less than I do, and therefore interpret what I write as if I'm a total neophyte which is not the case. Maybe that's because you perceive yourself as superior? You didn't tell me one thing there that I didn't already know. Nor did I make a statement regarding how Lightroom works, in the post you just responded to. If you'd read everything I wrote you'd see I was talking about two different kinds of workflow. And of course, I don't know ALOT about using Lightroom as in my opening post I stated I downloaded the trial version of LR3. Go talk down to someone else. Tom C. On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 1:33 PM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: What I find odd is that one would use an *automated* *image adjustment workflow* in a manner that is like taking ones images to a 3rd party processor and having all images processed using the same parameters. ... a) Who said anything about an *automated image adjustment workflow*? b) Where do you find this to be the case in the use of Lightroom? You can apply the same adjustments to as many or as few image simultaneously as you want. You can apply any specifically different adjustments you want to any individual image you want at any time you want. In other words, with Lightroom, you can automate doing as much, or as little, of the workflow as is sensible for what you are trying to achieve. You're speaking as someone who presumes quite a lot but knows quite little about using Lightroom. I suggest you go to one of the several free sites offering Lightroom tutorials and work your way through a few of them so that you understand it better before you make statements about how it works. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Adobe CS5 vs. Lightroom 3
On 2010-08-07 14:33 , Tom C wrote: I don't find it odd at all. Of course, I asked it. What I find odd is that one would use an *automated* *image adjustment workflow* in a manner that is like taking ones images to a 3rd party processor and having all images processed using the same parameters. One might get consistently mediocre or even decent results, but likely not optimal, unless each image in the batch being processed was very similar, and the adjustments were tuned to that batch or standard set of shooting conditions. i'm reading this carefully and trying to understand how it is relevant; i suppose a naive user of Lightroom might create one preset and push every last image through it with mediocre or garish results; like hammering screws; one coudl do that, but that's not at all what Lightroom is designed for -- might as well use a Photoshop action instead -- so i'm not sure whom it is you think would do what you find odd -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: another slight aside
On 2010-08-07 15:36 , Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: I didn't say CS2 had problems running on the Apple-Intel box; I said performance was *significantly* improved. indeed it is improved; i simply wanted to reassure Cotty that the performance for many purposes is good enough and that CS2 is otherwise quite workable To me, performance improvements like that make the CS2 to CS4 upgrade fee trivial when I consider how much time it will save. It also means editing becomes FAR more responsive and fun. :-) it's a significant but not enormous difference, and it is quite seldom that i sit and wait for Photoshop CS2 anyway; so i think for many people the fee is non-trivial (and note that CS, and for obscure reasons my version of CS2, don't get an upgrade price) otoh, if i were in production, it would be a no-brainer to buy the latest; of course in a production situation i'd probably also buy a Mac Pro, lots of RAM and fast drives ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: another slight aside
On 7/8/10, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: Cotty, are you still running Apple-PowerPC systems or are you on Apple-Intel systems now? If you're on Apple-Intel systems, you really want to move to Photohop CS3 at least for performance reasons. CS/CS2 are PowerPC executables, running in emulation on the current generation of Apple hardware. CS3 is the first native-code version of Photoshop for Apple-Intel systems: the performance improvement is substantial. Intel. Interesting! I will consider the upgrade. I'm still getting over the shock of having to buy Final Cut Studio and that was nearly three years ago!!! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: another slight aside
On 7/8/10, steve harley, discombobulated, unleashed: indeed it is improved; i simply wanted to reassure Cotty that the performance for many purposes is good enough and that CS2 is otherwise quite workable Hey, you wanna try rendering some complicated stuff in Final Cut on a 2.4 15 MBP - compared to that, CS is a breeze! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax to Release Mirrorless Camera? The Answer Might Be YES
On 6/8/10, Michael Beacom, discombobulated, unleashed: Finally- a Pentax Rangefinder! Except it's a fantasy that 8 or maybe 10 people share. 11. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: another slight aside
On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 3:37 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: To me, performance improvements like that make the CS2 to CS4 upgrade fee trivial when I consider how much time it will save. It also means editing becomes FAR more responsive and fun. :-) it's a significant but not enormous difference, Well, enormous is a judgment call. I only go into Photoshop these day to do complex things that can't be done in Lightroom, so when I go in there it needs be to do some serious heavy lifting. Doing lens corrections, blending, compositing, stitching, etc are MUCH MUCH faster in CS4 on the Mac Mini than in CS2. (Lightroom is also quite a lot faster too, and when I get back from a trip like I did this week with 800+ exposures that I want to work with, it cuts the preview-build time from import to 'ready to work' substantially.) -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Adobe CS5 vs. Lightroom 3
Being called an *** by a clown reflects on the clown more than the ***. On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: And you want to be an ***. On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 6:10 PM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: You still didn't get it. On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote: As is so often the case, what you wrote evidently didn't match what you meant to say. I'm sorry, I can't divine your intended meaning if you don't know how to write comprehensible English. I've been using Lightroom through all beta and release versions for five years, have produced 6,000+ completed images for paid assignments, personal projects and gallery exhibitions with it. I've been teaching Lightroom and Photoshop in workshop classes and 1:1 consulting sessions for two years. I've documented and reported 165 bugs with LR since 2006, 138 of which have been verified by Adobe and fixed in subsequent releases. I don't consider myself to be the definitive expert in LR: I continue to learn new aspects of using it as I work on new types of projects and produce more and more work with it. But I bet that I know a feck of a lot more about using it than you do, Tom. You might consider spending some time to learn how it is supposed to work and gaining skill in using it before pronouncing stupid judgments and making statements that express your lack of understanding. On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 2:38 PM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: As is often the case, you assume I know much less than I do, and therefore interpret what I write as if I'm a total neophyte which is not the case. Maybe that's because you perceive yourself as superior? You didn't tell me one thing there that I didn't already know. Nor did I make a statement regarding how Lightroom works, in the post you just responded to. If you'd read everything I wrote you'd see I was talking about two different kinds of workflow. And of course, I don't know ALOT about using Lightroom as in my opening post I stated I downloaded the trial version of LR3. Go talk down to someone else. Tom C. On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 1:33 PM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: What I find odd is that one would use an *automated* *image adjustment workflow* in a manner that is like taking ones images to a 3rd party processor and having all images processed using the same parameters. ... a) Who said anything about an *automated image adjustment workflow*? b) Where do you find this to be the case in the use of Lightroom? You can apply the same adjustments to as many or as few image simultaneously as you want. You can apply any specifically different adjustments you want to any individual image you want at any time you want. In other words, with Lightroom, you can automate doing as much, or as little, of the workflow as is sensible for what you are trying to achieve. You're speaking as someone who presumes quite a lot but knows quite little about using Lightroom. I suggest you go to one of the several free sites offering Lightroom tutorials and work your way through a few of them so that you understand it better before you make statements about how it works. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Should the K10D switch batteries automatically? (and a GESO)
On 7/8/10, Derby Chang, discombobulated, unleashed: Anyway, here's a rough gallery. Still culling http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/10/10_08/10_08_acpprc/index.htm Well done Derbs, and you *still* manage to get a few pretty girl shots! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Adobe CS5 vs. Lightroom 3
Tom! I just spent some of my valuable time left in my life reading every one of these posts about P.S., Lightroom, Aperture. I'm not sure why. But I will say that it appears to me that you are the one not getting it. You asked the question. These others are trying to help you understand how the two LR/Aperture programs work in making life easier for photographers. You are impeding their attempts. Remove the term workflow from all the previous posts. To me it does seem to impose some limitation to getting the job done. First off, you forgot and left your K-7's white balance set on cloudy from the shoot the day before. Damn. So you find the appropriate sheet of Blue Wratten filter to lay out on the light table to correct the white balance for the sunny day that it was. (batch WB correction before examining the slides) Lay DUPLICATES of all your slides from a day's shoot out on them. Use a Sharpie marker to mark each one that is exposed correctly and has the subject sharp and within the frame with a dot. Take the others and throw them away, or store in a bad shots bin for later interpretive manipulation. Now go through the ones on the light table again and put a second dot on the slides that are the best of each particular subject. Take all those two dot slides and look at them very carefully, maybe project them, maybe just use a loupe. Choose the best of those, the very best, and make minor corrections in WB, color matching with more Wratten Filters, and put a third dot on them. Take that batch and show them to the client. Put a fourth dot on the ones the client chooses as the ones he thinks would meet the criteria of the project he has you working on. Set all the Two and Three dot slides aside. Now, Tom, you ARE that client and can now communicate to the lab who will be making the finished prints (also you) what changes you want made by dodging or burning, retouching, cropping, horizon straightening, lens distortion repair, etc. on each and every final image. Then you must annotate each image with key words, dates, etc. on a mini-label for easy retrieval later before you place it carefully alongside the original slide in the appropriate filing cabinet, after making yet another dupe to be sent to archival storage in an abandoned bomb shelter. Up to this point, LR/Aperture would do the job for you, rapidly. Now you must send the final print on to the graphics dept. for titling and anything else that is needed for finished copy. This final step is for Photoshop. Maybe now you will have gotten it. On Aug 7, 2010, at 15:31 , steve harley wrote: On 2010-08-07 14:33 , Tom C wrote: I don't find it odd at all. Of course, I asked it. What I find odd is that one would use an *automated* *image adjustment workflow* in a manner that is like taking ones images to a 3rd party processor and having all images processed using the same parameters. One might get consistently mediocre or even decent results, but likely not optimal, unless each image in the batch being processed was very similar, and the adjustments were tuned to that batch or standard set of shooting conditions. i'm reading this carefully and trying to understand how it is relevant; i suppose a naive user of Lightroom might create one preset and push every last image through it with mediocre or garish results; like hammering screws; one coudl do that, but that's not at all what Lightroom is designed for -- might as well use a Photoshop action instead -- so i'm not sure whom it is you think would do what you find odd Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com http://gallery.me.com/jomac -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Wolfe's angel without the sign
On 7/8/10, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: prostitutes are cheaper, and there are more of them around. Especially where you live. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Adobe CS5 vs. Lightroom 3
On 7/8/10, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: Being called an *** by a clown reflects on the clown more than the ***. You guys should count your blessings. I am regularly called a * *** *** * ** . -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Should the K10D switch batteries automatically? (and a GESO)
On Aug 7, 2010, at 16:17 , Cotty wrote: On 7/8/10, Derby Chang, discombobulated, unleashed: Anyway, here's a rough gallery. Still culling http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/10/10_08/10_08_acpprc/index.htm Well done Derbs, and you *still* manage to get a few pretty girl shots! To each their own, Cotty! :-) http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/10/10_08/10_08_acpprc/08.htm Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com “ The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.” — Kevan Olesen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
