Re: CSany help dealing with MRSA, please

2010-03-11 Thread Vigilius Haufniensis

Put aloe over the DMSO.



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From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 7:26 PM
Subject: Re: CSany help dealing with MRSA, please


Straight CS or EIS (same thing) will kill MRSA if kept in contact long
enough.  The trouble with plain CS is that it does not penetrate and
could cause healing of the surface while allowing infection to remain
below.

I have used CS with  approx 10%DMSO, which penetrates well.  The
problem with this is that it is drying to the skin.

Probably the best thing is the mixture recommended by Brooks Bradley
which is 75% 10 to 20 ppm CS with 10% DMSO and 15% glycerin (all
percentages by volume).  This contains the CS, penetrates, prevents
drying, and perhaps holds the CS in contact with the bacteria on the
skin for a longer time.

The above is for topical application.  For internal application, you
should be able to use straight CS orally.  Remember that frequent
small doses orally is more effective for this sort of thing than 1 big
gulp only.

I am appending Brooks' post to the end of this post.

Dan


From: Brooks Bradley
Date: Wednesday, 23 June 2004
Subject: CS/ MRSA cure? Comment

About three years ago we conducted rather extensive evaluations for
effectivity of colloidal silver on MRSA (presenting both topically and
as epithelial tissue challenge in the throat).

We investigated a consequential number of protocol variations. ALL
those including colloidal silver proved acceptably effective.
However, the most effective single protocol, utilizing a minimum
number
of total ingredients, revealed to be one including nothing more than
75% 10 to 20 ppm colloidal silver (by volume), 10% full-strength DMSO
(by
volume) and 15% Glycerin (by volume).
Our results displayed to be (in comparison to the general anecdotal
information in the posted article) equal or superior in time response
to those claimed by the authors of the information appearing in web
posting at Mr. Rense's site.
My comments are not designed in any way to denigrate the very
useful/effective results achieved by the gentleman at the center of
this disclosure.

It is quite pleasing to observe the demonstrated success of the
untaught medical savage in addressing the very real, and
threatening,
challenge of MRSA in contrast to the ineptitude and poorly
designed/executed research machinations of  the U.K's  reigning
Phamaceutical Convention. :)

Sincerely,  Brooks Bradley.
Harborne Research Foundation





On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Rainie Cole raini...@gmail.com wrote:

My friend's sister has contacted this. Can anyone offer any help on if
silver would work and a good starting dosage point. I thought I remembered
reading somewhere that silver was good for MRSA.
I thank you; my friend thanks you.

--
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Re: CSliposomal Vit C

2010-03-11 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
Thanks for this Chuck.  Can I ask another question?  The mix I made is three 
tablespoons of lecithin to one sort of level teaspoon of sodium ascorbate.  
This in a cup and a half of DW.  The question is: is this a high level of Vit C 
altogether?  I mean--how much of this do I drink in one go and approximately 
how many grams would it be?  I am no good at maths I'm afraid.  I know this is 
the protocol as Brooks said--without using the US cleaner that is--but I was 
wondering how much this would actually be in grams etc.,  I am still a bit 
worried about the article(s) I have read citing the low dose vitC/cancer 
connection and I know Brooks' research was done using high doses, so am 
wondering what category this would fall into.

I don't have a problem with bowel tolerances for *anything* really--can eat 
literally anything with impunity - including laxatives - so this wouldn't be a 
problem.

By the way, my mix is still in suspension - no separation and no foam so it 
seems to be working doing it this way.  Tastes nice too.  dee

On 10 Mar 2010, at 21:12, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:

 Now don't forget Dee, that you are not using the complete protocol
 that Brooks posted for making liposol C, but the way you are doing it
 will give some of the effect.
 
 Just to be clear, you are not using a ultrasonic cleaner to agitate
 the lecithin/C mix.
 Brooks did this.
 You are agitating with a blender only.
 You will still get results.
 
 To reassure you:
 lecithin is a great brain food by itself.
 It also lowers cholesterol.
 Great daily supplement.
 
 We are using it because it is a terrific emulsifier.
 It is combining with your C to make it a highly assimilable mix.
 


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Re: CSliposomal Vit C

2010-03-11 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
Why does the encapsulation break down if heated?  I warmed mine slightly in the 
microwave before adding the lecithin.  The whole mix has stayed in suspension 
still today, so I can't see how it is not the 70% that Brooks said--even 
without using the US cleaner.  I would have thought the cleaner was just to mix 
the two substances up but bow to superior knowledge.  dee

On 10 Mar 2010, at 22:06, Saralou Pedigo wrote:

 Yes, Brooks said 70% encapsulation IF you use the Ultrasonic Cleaner as part 
 of your process.  it's 20% encapsulation if you're only using a 
 mixer/blender/ vitamix.  And if you're heating any of the liquid the 
 encapsulation breaks down.
 
 sl
 
 
 


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CSMercury in fillings

2010-03-11 Thread Kirsteen Wright
Hi Guys

I've been having a lot of problems with my teeth lately and I can't put off
going to the dentist much longer. The problem is that I have quite a few
mercury fillings. Some of these are going to have to be renewed, which will
involve them being drilled out and new ones put in. unfortunately no special
precautions will be taken by the dentist. There may even be some teeth that
get mercury fillings for the first time :-(

According to the dentist, he could put white fillings in the teeth at the
front for 'cosmetic reasons' but if I want them at the back I would need a
note from the doc to say I was allergic to mercury. It's pretty academic
anyway as there's no way I can afford them.
Living on disability benefits I get the dental treatment free, but non
mercury fillings or removal of mercury isn't included. i know health is a
priority but when it's a choice of paying my rent or paying for non mercury
fillings and being homeless then it ain't much of a choice.

I feel my immune system is already severely compromised (I have myalgic
encephomeyelytis) so is there anything I can do to lesten the impact of all
this mercury floating about.

Cheers
Kirsteen


Re: CSMercury in fillings

2010-03-11 Thread herb
 Hi Guys

 I've been having a lot of problems with my teeth lately and I can't put

 Cheers
 Kirsteen

Hi Kirsteen, I have had results with using MMS according to Jim Humbles
instructions. Use about 6 drops, activate it, brush teeth with, swallow
the whole mix.
Regards, Steveh...@mcmo.net


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Re: CSany help dealing with MRSA, please

2010-03-11 Thread Ode Coyote

It's actually Brooks Bradley's formula, Shirley. :)
I learned it on this list. The original is 75% CS, 15% Glycerine,
and 10% DMSO. I've had problems with dry skin though, and use 85%
CS, 10% Glycerine, and 5% DMSO. It has indeed worked wonders for my
MRSA -- though I still don't seem to be rid of it, my symptoms are
greatly reduced. I have have had only one minor abscess on my left
leg in the last two months. Using it as a nasal spray will
practically eliminate sinus allergies, too. I am sure that if my skin
wasn't so easily dried out the B.B. formula would have licked it by
now, but I do get so dry it's painful, and so cannot use it everyday.

But lately I've also begun using a Hulda Clark zapper, and it too is
helping. I highly recommend Clark's book (in spite of it's hyperbolic
title), The Cure For All Diseases. Many people on the Yahoo group
microelectricitygermkiller also seem to be having quite a bit of
success with the godzilla device.

Cheers,
indi

I talked to a friend today that had gotten a call from her X's wife saying 
he was very very sick (MRSA) and wanted to know if she had anything he 
could take to keep him from the hospital.  I had recently given her some 
MMS for a fungus on her mule and she has been using CS also recently.  She 
took both over there to him.  She said he looked like death, not gray but a 
pasty clay color and had lumps down his arm.  She couldn't believe he 
wasn't in the hospital.


She had downloaded the on-line book on MMS and gave that to him, explained 
how to mix it and left a sprayer filled with cs for his arm.  He was in bad 
shape and she was worried about being exposed herself.  He sprayed his arm 
with CS and said it immediately felt better.  He took 15 drops of 
AMMS.  She was worried because she had never used MMS internally.  She 
called this morning and talked to his wife to see how he was doing and she 
said he was 200% better and had gone to work.  I was worried about the side 
effects of MMS (nausia/diarhria) at the 15 drop level without build up.


I will be interested to see how this turns out but didn't know the MMS 
could work so fast on MRSA.  I'm glad I just ordered more.


Dianne

Date 2009
 Possibly Faulty memory seems to recall the use of salt in Alky water makers

Least-ways, in *this* one...

http://www.hiddencures.com/ionizer.htm


Frequently Asked Questions


Q: Do you need to add minerals, and what kind?
A: Yes, minerals are required in order for the ionizer to work. I have 
found that the most effective mineral to add is salt. Salt is needed to 
make the water conductive so that the ionizer will work.


Ohhh Kay.
If salt is used, one electrode makes Hypochlorus acid and the other, sodium 
hydroxide [Lye] which will definitely make that water Alkaline.
 From the handy dandy household cleaner article that sheds light on what 
blood electrifiers aka Zappers, might actually be doing. [Controllable 
Electro-Chemo-Therapy? or an MMS analog with an antidote right around the 
corner...not a blood electrolizer but a blood electro-chemicalizer, cuz 
blood is bloody salty]


..easier to just add a few Lye crystals to water. [And turn it into salt 
water when it hits the ole tummy]


http://www.housekeepingchannel.com/a_820-Electrolyzed_Water_Alternative_to_Chemical_Cleaners

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrolysed_water

http://www.psfk.com/2009/02/electrolyzed-water-miracle-cleaning-fluid-made-from-water-salt.html

Ode


 From: Brooks Bradley
 Date: Wednesday, 23 June 2004
 Subject: CS/ MRSA cure? Comment

 About three years ago we conducted rather extensive evaluations for
 effectivity of colloidal silver on MRSA (presenting both topically and
 as epithelial tissue challenge in the throat).

 We investigated a consequential number of protocol variations. ALL
 those
 including colloidal silver proved acceptably effective.
 However, the most effective single protocol, utilizing a minimum number
 of total ingredients, revealed to be one including nothing more than
 75%
 10 to 20 ppm colloidal silver (by volume), 10% full-strength DMSO (by
 volume) and 15% Glycerin (by volume).
 Our results displayed to be (in comparison to the general anecdotal
 information in the posted article) equal or superior in time response
 to
 those claimed by the authors of the information appearing in web
 posting
 at Mr. Rense's site.
 My comments are not designed in any way to denigrate the very
 useful/effective results achieved by the gentleman at the center of
 this
 disclosure.

 It is quite pleasing to observe the demonstrated success of the
 untaught medical savage in addressing the very real, and threatening,
 challenge of MRSA in contrast to the ineptitude and poorly
 designed/executed research machinations of  the U.K's  reigning
 Phamaceutical Convention. :)

 Sincerely,  Brooks Bradley.
 Harborne Research Foundation

At 11:30 AM 3/10/2010 -0500, you wrote:
My friend's sister has contacted this. Â Can anyone offer any help on if 
silver would work 

Re: CSSilver Oxide Formation

2010-03-11 Thread Ode Coyote



  It's electrolysis of the water.  Hydrogen and Oxygen.

ode


At 01:32 PM 3/10/2010 -0800, you wrote:

Hello Steve,

It may also be important to figure out what oxidizes silver to form these
oxides.

Tom



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Re: CSSilver Oxide Formation

2010-03-11 Thread Ode Coyote

At 10:27 AM 3/10/2010 -0600, you wrote:

Several studies I have seen attribute most, if not all, of the
antimicrobial activity of silver particles to the formation of silver
oxide on the particle in the bloodstream. One example:

http://www.fpl.fs.fed.us/documnts/pdf2004/fpl_2004_dorau001.pdf
Note that all these mechanisms relate to solvated silver ions, Ag+. The
antibacterial properties of any metal come from its ions, which are
generated from the neutral metal (1 5). In the presence of oxygen,
metallic silver can be bactericidal because silver (I) oxide is soluble
enough to release free silver ions (18). When dealing with metallic
silver, though, it is important to note that antimicrobial activity
depends on the extent of the active silver surface.

Would it not then be desirable to form silver oxide on the particles
that do form in EIS?

 - Steve N



  Maybe..but where and when?
IN the blood stream or in the jar?..or does it matter?
Ion exchange and reaction chains are a complicated deal and there's nothing 
at all simple about where the CS is headed.

 I suppose that any number of reactions will wind up doing the same thing.
Is yellow CS bad  ??  Hellifino.  If it works, use it.  Even if the 
oxides do nothing, there's lots of other stuff in there.


Ode



-Original Message-
From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@windstream.net]
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 7:28 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSSilver Meter


...text omitted...

[Color part not true, but particles do reflect light and ions
don't.  Although particle size can have an effect on color and
numbers/density on depth of color, it's more an indication of the
chemical
composition of the majority of particles. If the color is yellow to
brown
to black, it mostly means that you have silver oxides in the water and
the
best way I've found to do that is to use too much current over too small

electrodes..you can actually see the oxides being formed in the water
rather than nearly all of it being stuck on the electrode that gets
black
as a golden mist]



Ode



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Re: CSany help dealing with MRSA, please

2010-03-11 Thread herb
 Put aloe over the DMSO.



 - Original Message -
 From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 7:26 PM
 Subject: Re: CSany help dealing with MRSA, please

Hello, I'm a bit late in this thread but have found two things useful in
combatting MRSA.
1. Blue laser/LED light especially with staph/strep frequencies run at the
same time if one has access to that equipment.
2. A bentonite soak will draw it out if able to be incontact with the
major area of concern.
Regards, Steve  h...@mcmo.net



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Re: CSMaking 100% colloidal EIS

2010-03-11 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
Do you think that would work with sodium ascorbate Marshall?  dee

On 11 Mar 2010, at 05:05, Marshall Dudley wrote:

 I think I have a way to convert EIS to 100% particulate.  If you add a pinch 
 of ascorbic acid (vitamin C) powder to a glass of EIS, it will almost 
 immediately reduce the silver oxide/hydroxide to silver particles of one and 
 2 atom each.  I tried it and it doe seem to work.
 
 Reference: http:www.fpl.fs.fed.us/documnts/pdf2004/fpl_2004_dorau001.pdf 
 /page 139 last sentence: :When silver ions encounter ascorbic acid, they are 
 reduced to metallic silver nanoparticles./
 
 Marshall
 
 


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Re: CSMaking 100% colloidal EIS

2010-03-11 Thread Richard Goodwin
Cool!  So I could probably dissolve a vit C tablet in there and it would do the 
same thing.

But ... if the ionic form is more effective for most things, then would you 
want to convert it all to non-ionic particles?

Or would you maybe want to mix the two?  The non-ionic form lasts longer in 
your blood when you drink it, yes?

But does it kill bacteria and viruses and lyme as well?

Dick



- Original Message 
From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, March 11, 2010 12:05:13 AM
Subject: CSMaking 100% colloidal EIS

I think I have a way to convert EIS to 100% particulate.  If you add a pinch of 
ascorbic acid (vitamin C) powder to a glass of EIS, it will almost immediately 
reduce the silver oxide/hydroxide to silver particles of one and 2 atom each.  
I tried it and it doe seem to work.

Reference: http:www.fpl.fs.fed.us/documnts/pdf2004/fpl_2004_dorau001.pdf /page 
139 last sentence: :When silver ions encounter ascorbic acid, they are reduced 
to metallic silver nanoparticles./

Marshall


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CSliposomal Vit C

2010-03-11 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
Can anyone tell me if this form of Vit C would be beneficial to dogs with an 
injury?  Also is soya lecithin ok to give dogs?  Thanks for any help.  dee

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Re: CSPotassium Deficiency Information

2010-03-11 Thread MaryAnn Helland
Hello Brooks -- thank you for that wonderful information.  The next logical 
question is where does one get AR grade Potassium Chloride Salt?
I'll Google it, but thought you might have a better/best sort of answer.
MA 





From: Brooks Bradley bradlebro...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, March 10, 2010 5:15:13 PM
Subject: CSPotassium Deficiency Information

              I impose on the good offices of the list membership's
collective patience..but I believe this information is
exceptionally valuable to the lay-person audience
and also to the studied academics among us.  Joe Vialls has been dead
for several years now...but he was...in trutha real warrior for
the just cause of informing the public
of many of the cardinal elements critical to vibrant health in human
beings.  It is my belief that this information is of genuine value to
most people, if only for its address of the critical role
potassium plays.together with valid observations pointing out the
almost deliberate attempts by portions of the allopathic community
to marginalize the critical role adequate levels of
potassium play in maintaining sound health.
                                                  Sincerely, Brooks Bradley/



http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/salud/salud_potassium.htm


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Re: CSMaking 100% colloidal EIS

2010-03-11 Thread Bob Banever
Why would you want to do that?  It is the ionic portion that has the most 
theraputic benefit.



- Original Message - 
From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 9:05 PM
Subject: CSMaking 100% colloidal EIS


I think I have a way to convert EIS to 100% particulate.  If you add a 
pinch of ascorbic acid (vitamin C) powder to a glass of EIS, it will almost 
immediately reduce the silver oxide/hydroxide to silver particles of one 
and 2 atom each.  I tried it and it doe seem to work.


Reference: http:www.fpl.fs.fed.us/documnts/pdf2004/fpl_2004_dorau001.pdf 
/page 139 last sentence: :When silver ions encounter ascorbic acid, they 
are reduced to metallic silver nanoparticles./


Marshall


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Re: CSMercury in fillings

2010-03-11 Thread Deborah Gerard
Kirsteen...have you checked to see if you have a dental college in your area 
they will do things for alot cheaper. If they are not going to dam off your 
throat drilling the old fillings out I would not even bother because the fumes 
and dust will go right into your lungs,
Debbie





From: Kirsteen Wright kirsteen.falcons...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, March 11, 2010 4:45:45 AM
Subject: CSMercury in fillings

Hi Guys

I've been having a lot of problems with my teeth lately and I can't put off 
going to the dentist much longer. The problem is that I have quite a few 
mercury fillings. Some of these are going to have to be renewed, which will 
involve them being drilled out and new ones put in. unfortunately no special 
precautions will be taken by the dentist. There may even be some teeth that get 
mercury fillings for the first time :-(

According to the dentist, he could put white fillings in the teeth at the front 
for 'cosmetic reasons' but if I want them at the back I would need a note from 
the doc to say I was allergic to mercury. It's pretty academic anyway as 
there's no way I can afford them.
Living on disability benefits I get the dental treatment free, but non mercury 
fillings or removal of mercury isn't included. i know health is a priority but 
when it's a choice of paying my rent or paying for non mercury fillings and 
being homeless then it ain't much of a choice.

I feel my immune system is already severely compromised (I have myalgic 
encephomeyelytis) so is there anything I can do to lesten the impact of all 
this mercury floating about.

Cheers
Kirsteen



  

Re: CSMaking 100% colloidal EIS

2010-03-11 Thread mborgert






Does make the cs penetrate deeper?
Mary
-- Original message from Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com: --  I think I have a way to convert EIS to 100% particulate. If you add a  pinch of ascorbic acid (vitamin C) powder to a glass of EIS, it will  almost immediately reduce the silver oxide/hydroxide to silver particles  of one and 2 atom each. I tried it and it doe seem to work.   Reference: http:www.fpl.fs.fed.us/documnts/pdf2004/fpl_2004_dorau001.pdf  /page 139 last sentence: :When silver ions encounter ascorbic acid, they  are reduced to metallic silver nanoparticles./   Marshall--  The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver.  Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org   Unsubscribe:   Archives:  http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html   Off-Topic discussions:  List Owner: Mike Devour   






Re: CSMaking 100% colloidal EIS

2010-03-11 Thread Marshall Dudley
It is much less likely to, with sodium ascrobate it must form sodium 
hydroxide which requires energy so that would boil down to whether 
silver or sodium prefer ascorbate.  Ascorbic acid is available in power 
form from health food stores for about $10 a bottle.


Marshall

Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:

Do you think that would work with sodium ascorbate Marshall?  dee

On 11 Mar 2010, at 05:05, Marshall Dudley wrote:

  

I think I have a way to convert EIS to 100% particulate.  If you add a pinch of 
ascorbic acid (vitamin C) powder to a glass of EIS, it will almost immediately 
reduce the silver oxide/hydroxide to silver particles of one and 2 atom each.  
I tried it and it doe seem to work.

Reference: http:www.fpl.fs.fed.us/documnts/pdf2004/fpl_2004_dorau001.pdf /page 
139 last sentence: :When silver ions encounter ascorbic acid, they are reduced 
to metallic silver nanoparticles./

Marshall






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Re: CSMaking 100% colloidal EIS

2010-03-11 Thread Marshall Dudley
It has thus far, tried it with 15 ppm, gave me a heck of a Tyndall and a 
slight yellow color.


Marshall

Norton, Steve wrote:


Very interesting indeed. I assume the silver remained in suspension? 
The CS manufacturers won't like this. :-)

Nice discovery.

 - Steve N

- Original Message -
From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed Mar 10 23:05:13 2010
Subject: CSMaking 100% colloidal EIS

I think I have a way to convert EIS to 100% particulate.  If you add a
pinch of ascorbic acid (vitamin C) powder to a glass of EIS, it will
almost immediately reduce the silver oxide/hydroxide to silver particles
of one and 2 atom each.  I tried it and it doe seem to work.

Reference: http:www.fpl.fs.fed.us/documnts/pdf2004/fpl_2004_dorau001.pdf
/page 139 last sentence: :When silver ions encounter ascorbic acid, they
are reduced to metallic silver nanoparticles./

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Re: CSMaking 100% colloidal EIS

2010-03-11 Thread Marshall Dudley

Richard Goodwin wrote:

Cool!  So I could probably dissolve a vit C tablet in there and it would do
 the same thing.

  
Not necessarily.  There could be components in it that bind with silver 
more tightly than the loosely bound oxide and hydroxide, and if they 
grab it first it would not reduce.  When other compounds and elements 
are added, all bets are off.


Marshall

But ... if the ionic form is more effective for most things, then would you
 want to convert it all to non-ionic particles?

Or would you maybe want to mix the two?  The non-ionic form lasts longer in
 your blood when you drink it, yes?

But does it kill bacteria and viruses and lyme as well?

Dick



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To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, March 11, 2010 12:05:13 AM
Subject: CSMaking 100% colloidal EIS

I think I have a way to convert EIS to 100% particulate.  If you add a pinch
 of ascorbic acid (vitamin C) powder to a glass of EIS, it will almost
 immediately reduce the silver oxide/hydroxide to silver particles of one and 2
 atom each.  I tried it and it doe seem to work.

Reference: http:www.fpl.fs.fed.us/documnts/pdf2004/fpl_2004_dorau001.pdf
 /page 139 last sentence: :When silver ions encounter ascorbic acid, they are
 reduced to metallic silver nanoparticles./

Marshall


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Re: CSMercury in fillings

2010-03-11 Thread Kirsteen Wright
On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 3:17 PM, Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.comwrote:

 Kirsteen...have you checked to see if you have a dental college in your
 area they will do things for alot cheaper.


There is a dental hospital but because of the ME it's just not an option.
This is th only dentist I've found that can accomodate what I need for that.

If they are not going to dam off your throat drilling the old fillings out I
 would not even bother because the fumes and dust will go right into your
 lungs,


Unfortunately, I know that. I'm not having the fillings removed to get rid
of them but some are crumbling and will have to have at least part removed
before the teeth can be repaired.  Believe me I'd rather leave them the way
they are but it's not an option.

One tooth has 3 walls and nothing in the middle (though there's bound to be
old bits of mercury filling), one has split in half horizontally and again
has old filling but rough and only half the size it should e and several
have fillings that have come loose or the walls have crumbled.

I haven't been to a dentist for years; first of all because I was housebound
and physically unable to and then i kept putting it off precisely because I
didn't want the mercury tampered with. Now it's got to the stage I don't
really have a choice.

Cheers
Kirsteen


Re: CSMaking 100% colloidal EIS

2010-03-11 Thread Marshall Dudley
Well, for one thing, it would allow testing to verify just what the 
therapeutic benefits are for each component.  Being able to completely 
eliminate one component, and get 100% of the other can be of great 
benefit for doing research.  We now have methods to get both 100% ionic 
and 100% colloid.  That is a big help for doing any type of research.


Marshall

Bob Banever wrote:
Why would you want to do that?  It is the ionic portion that has the 
most theraputic benefit.



- Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley 
mdud...@king-cart.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 9:05 PM
Subject: CSMaking 100% colloidal EIS


I think I have a way to convert EIS to 100% particulate.  If you add 
a pinch of ascorbic acid (vitamin C) powder to a glass of EIS, it 
will almost


immediately reduce the silver oxide/hydroxide to silver particles of 
one and 2 atom each.  I tried it and it doe seem to work.


Reference: 
http:www.fpl.fs.fed.us/documnts/pdf2004/fpl_2004_dorau001.pdf /page 
139 last sentence: :When silver ions encounter ascorbic acid, they 
are reduced to metallic silver nanoparticles./


Marshall


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CSInteresting science fair experiment

2010-03-11 Thread Marshall Dudley

http://gotpetroleum.blogspot.com/2010/03/alyssas-science-experiement.html

Shows how bad aspartame and some food colorings are for plants.

Marshall


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Re: CSMaking 100% colloidal EIS

2010-03-11 Thread Marshall Dudley
Normally you would expect the ionic to penetrate better, except that 
silver forms a pretty reactive ion, and it will quickly get bound with 
proteins and chlorine in the tissues.  So it may, or it may not.  
Experimenting on things like this were previously expensive since the 
only source for near pure colloidal silver was from Frank Key and that 
was pretty expensive stuff. Now we can make it ourselves.


Marshall

mborg...@att.net wrote:

Does make the cs penetrate deeper?
Mary

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mdud...@king-cart.com: --


 I think I have a way to convert EIS to 100% particulate. If you
add a
 pinch of ascorbic acid (vitamin C) powder to a glass of EIS, it
will
 almost immediately reduce the silver oxide/hydroxide to silver
particles
 of one and 2 atom each. I tried it and it doe seem to work.

 Reference:
http:www.fpl.fs.fed.us/documnts/pdf2004/fpl_2004_dorau001.pdf
 /page 139 last sentence: :When silver ions encounter ascorbic
acid, they
 are reduced to metallic silver nanoparticles./

 Marshall


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Re: CSPotassium Deficiency Information

2010-03-11 Thread Sandee George
Agreed Brooks, so eat bananas - that is why monkeys are so active and  
healthy    smile

Regards
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Re: CSMercury in fillings

2010-03-11 Thread Bob Banever
Kirsteen,

  You are in a very infortunate situation.   Probably the best you can do 
is take a few capsules of activated charcoal along with a tablespoon of 
chlorella an hour before the procedure, then take more charcoal afterwards.  I 
feel for you... you are about to be poisoned with mercury.  
  - Original Message - 
  From: Kirsteen Wright 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 1:45 AM
  Subject: CSMercury in fillings


  Hi Guys

  I've been having a lot of problems with my teeth lately and I can't put off 
going to the dentist much longer. The problem is that I have quite a few 
mercury fillings. Some of these are going to have to be renewed, which will 
involve them being drilled out and new ones put in. unfortunately no special 
precautions will be taken by the dentist. There may even be some teeth that get 
mercury fillings for the first time :-(

  According to the dentist, he could put white fillings in the teeth at the 
front for 'cosmetic reasons' but if I want them at the back I would need a note 
from the doc to say I was allergic to mercury. It's pretty academic anyway as 
there's no way I can afford them.
  Living on disability benefits I get the dental treatment free, but non 
mercury fillings or removal of mercury isn't included. i know health is a 
priority but when it's a choice of paying my rent or paying for non mercury 
fillings and being homeless then it ain't much of a choice.

  I feel my immune system is already severely compromised (I have myalgic 
encephomeyelytis) so is there anything I can do to lesten the impact of all 
this mercury floating about.

  Cheers
  Kirsteen


FW: CSMaking 100% colloidal EIS

2010-03-11 Thread Norton, Steve
We now have a cheap and easy way to provide 100% particulate CS. Not everyone 
views EIS as we do. There are health sites that push CS over EIS for internal 
uses. And of course people have to purchase the CS at fairly high prices vs 
making their own. I can't say whether the site moderators really believe their 
claims or if profit is a motive. But now those people who want CS because of 
what they are told can now be given an inexpensive alternative to get a quality 
CS,

 - Steve N

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From: Bob Banever [mailto:bbane...@earthlink.net] 
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 7:11 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSMaking 100% colloidal EIS

Why would you want to do that?  It is the ionic portion that has the most 
theraputic benefit.


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Re: CSPotassium Deficiency Information

2010-03-11 Thread MaryAnn Helland
Sandee -- didn't you read the part where potatoes are four times higher in 
potassium than bananas?
MA





From: Sandee George oha...@juno.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, March 11, 2010 10:05:39 AM
Subject: Re: CSPotassium Deficiency Information

Agreed Brooks, so eat bananas - that is why monkeys are so active and healthy 
  smile
Regards
Sandee


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Re: CSShingles

2010-03-11 Thread Sunwaterclear - Sunny
Hey again, thanks all.. shingles not gone yet, but haven't yet received chinese 
medicine or MSM.. Like your friend, Lois, I'll try anything... haven't got 
any glycerine, but assumed it's a non active ingredient, so just tried today 
pasting on CS and DMSO in the same ration as you suggested.. let's see... I'm 
concerned about the post shingles neuralgia.. that some sites 'threaten'... but 
know it's better not to focus on what I don't want... 

I had NO idea shingles came from having chicken pox.. and that there is a 
vaccine in theUS for those over 62 [I don't qualify yet!]... off to investigate 
that vaccine now.. I am wary of all vaccines..but just curious..

Appreciate your offers and have tried as many as the bank will allow right 
now!!! 

Am making my CS with a generator... 

with love
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From: Vigilius Haufniensis thehatefuln...@comcast.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, March 9, 2010 5:56:33 PM
Subject: Re: CSShingles


Suan Zao Ren Tang.  It's a Chinese herbal formula.  The shingles will be gone 
in a day or two.




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From: zzekel...@aol.com 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 6:23 AM
Subject: Re: CSShingles

In a message dated 3/8/2010 4:42:29 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
sunwatercl...@yahoo.com writes:
And the shingles marches on.. quite painful now and I'm awaiting various 
remedies recommended by all you wonderful listers, on here and elsewhere.   

sunny
Hi Sunny, found this by chance when I read one of the GMO subjects... I have a 
friend who was hit by a really bad case of shingles. I had never tried this 
but she said she would try anything.  I gave her some EIS--( CS )  a bottle 
of what I call the Brooks Mix  She took a tsp per day of EIS (CS)   applied 
the Mix to the shingles topically... In about a week they were gone. This 
was over a year ago  she had one reoccurrence when she had not had any EIS. 
Now she has her own simple generator  no more shingles...
www.atlasnova.com ...    The Mix =   75%  EIS (CS) ---10 % DMSO ---15 % 
Glycerin   ... It is also great to cure many skin problems... {{ I use a shot 
glass-- 3-shots of EIS---1 shot of DMSO  11/2 shot glycerin... give it a 
shake shake before you put it on.}}
   There are a lot of good generators out there. The one from atlasnova is 
just the one I found out about first  very reasonable Good luck-- Lois


  

Re: CSPotassium Deficiency Information

2010-03-11 Thread Sandee George
Yep I did, however I do not need to eat glue I use other types  
of carbs for my energy !!!Like sweet potatoes, yams, brown rice  
all of which do not have the glue of white potatoes - at least this is  
what I think, I am open to being corrected.

Take good care
Regards
SAndee


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Re: CSPotassium Deficiency Information

2010-03-11 Thread MaryAnn Helland
Glue?





From: Sandee George oha...@juno.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, March 11, 2010 10:34:01 AM
Subject: Re: CSPotassium Deficiency Information

Yep I did, however I do not need to eat glue     I use other types of carbs 
for my energy !!!    Like sweet potatoes, yams, brown rice all of which do not 
have the glue of white potatoes - at least this is what I think, I am open to 
being corrected.
Take good care
Regards
SAndee


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Re: CSPleurisy

2010-03-11 Thread Day Sutton
Thanks, I'll get this information to him right away

On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 10:04 PM, linda...@att.net wrote:

  Hi Day,

 This isn't a CS protocol but I have gotten excellent results with others
 who had pleurisy by using simple moist heat with no drugs, i.e., lay
 a heating pad down on the bed, position a plastic sheet on it (an unopened
 garbage bag will do fine), then lay a non-dripping but wet dish towel over
 the plastic sheet.

 1.) Turn the heating pad on awhile to warm the wet towel first, so it isn't
 too cold, then have him or her lay down on the towel and cover 'em up.

 2.) Let the heating pad stay hot (med or med/high only, not high) until the
 person feels thoroughly warmed (be careful not to burn them), leave it warm
 for about 15-20 minutes, then turn it off for ~20 min until the
 pad cools. Do not try to get them to tolerate more heat than they can, back
 off if they say it's too hot or too long a time. See to it that the towel
 stays wet.

 3.) Then repeat step #2 for 3 or more iterations.

 4.) Remove towel, plastic and heating pad before they finally settle down
 to sleep for the night. You don't want them sleeping on cold/wet. They
 should sleep covered up.

 This has never failed for me, provides rapid relief, and has saved a few
 trips to the ER over the years.

 Stay well,

 Linda


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 --

 I have a friend that has been diagnosed with pleurisy.  Doc gave him a
 prescription for simvastatin  anyone know a CS protocol that will help?

 --
 Day Sutton
 day.sut...@gmail.com




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Re: CSPotassium Deficiency Information

2010-03-11 Thread MaryAnn Helland
OK -- I have Googled this -- and am more than confused.  First of all, I can't 
find anything described as *AR grade*.   Second, all of the bulk providers that 
I pursued are geared to sell to companies, research labs, etc. -- and not to 
individuals.  Third -- some Google references are for de-icing products -- 
what's that about?  Is that the same thing?  Fourth -- one company listed over 
two dozen different Potassium Chloride products.  I have no chemistry education 
and absolutely do not know where to go with this.  :-(
MA 





From: MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, March 11, 2010 8:50:06 AM
Subject: Re: CSPotassium Deficiency Information


Hello Brooks -- thank you for that wonderful information.  The next logical 
question is where does one get AR grade Potassium Chloride Salt?
I'll Google it, but thought you might have a better/best sort of answer.
MA 





From: Brooks Bradley bradlebro...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, March 10, 2010 5:15:13 PM
Subject: CSPotassium Deficiency Information

              I impose on the good offices of the list membership's
collective patience..but I believe this information is
exceptionally valuable to the lay-person audience
and also to the studied academics among us.  Joe Vialls has been dead
for several years now...but he was...in trutha real warrior for
the just cause of informing the public
of many of the cardinal elements critical to vibrant health in human
beings.  It is my belief that this information is of genuine value to
most people, if only for its address of the critical role
potassium plays.together with valid observations pointing out the
almost deliberate attempts by portions of the allopathic community
to marginalize the critical role adequate levels of
potassium play in maintaining sound health.
                                                  Sincerely, Brooks Bradley/



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Re: CSGMO foods

2010-03-11 Thread Sunwaterclear - Sunny
Here's another great place for seeds and anyone wanting to get medicinal 
herbs.  Ships out of Oregon.   They will ship to Germany - read this rider - to 
International Customers, they specify certain European countries where they 
cannot guarantee arrival.. Germany is NOT one.  You want dried seeds anyway, 
not fresh ones.. as they wouldn't last the journey probably.


And there's no reason why they wouldn't pass customs as there probably isnt 
some law about buying seeds yet... it's just that so many of the seeeds 
available are tainted... so you've gotta look far and wide.

This place was recommended by my permaculture instructor Chuck Marsh who grows 
medicinal herbs and plants as well as unusual ones. He's been at it for 35 
years... and I trust his recommendations.

www.horizonherbs.com

They are also authors of a new herbal medicinal book.. sounds great, so I 
ordered it... I'm going to start making essaic tea... google that one...

with love
sunny
 
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From: Golden Aldi goldena...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, March 9, 2010 2:29:44 PM
Subject: Re: CSGMO foods

I wonder if the seeds would make customs over here in Germany, or if they would 
be returned to sender :-(
I guess I should just give the company a call before I spend time picking seeds 
to order.

We have, apparently, GMO butternuts, cause we've already tried 3 yrs in a row, 
to grow butternuts from the seeds taken from the squash we buy directly from 
the farmer. When I asked him what the deal was, why we never really got any 
decent squash, he told us he had to buy new seeds every year. I hadn't heard of 
Monsanto at the time, but it sure did click when I watched the movie about 
Monsanto.

Aldi


On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 10:41 PM, Sunwaterclear - Sunny 
sunwatercl...@yahoo.com wrote:

So Not Man owns 90% of all seed genes.  Some of them are engineered to be 
sterile, so you have to buy and buy.. BTW Monsanto created DDT, Agent Orange 
and Aspartame.  Do you want such people in charge of what you eat?

Seeds guaranteed non GMO and un So Not Man tainted.  Deadline for orders March 
10

www.fedcoseeds.com  If you are planting and haven't bought seeds yet, these 
are the people to buy from!  No affiliations - wish there were!  

with love and hope
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RE: CSMercury in fillings

2010-03-11 Thread Lisa
Dentists should ALWAYS dam off the throat so particles don't get into the
airway or the throat/stomach.

 

Call the dentist in question and ask. IF they say they don't, then go to
either your local drug store or walmart and get a package of those stretchy
bands (they're used for physical therapy and come in different lengths and
strengths). You can find the thinnest of them all and tell them to use that.
It would be better than nothing and they should be able to cut it to size
and stretch it just like the dam material they use (which is also stretchy
rubbery stuff). I've seen them for $5-7 each.

 

Good luck and regardless if this is a dentist you have to go to - they too
must be held responsible for safety and the damming is definitely a big part
of that. If they were to lose a piece of a filling and if it were large
enough and unfortunate enough to go down somewhere.you'd have major issues
and they'd have huge responsibilities/liabilities on their part. I'm sure
the few bucks (if that) it would cost for damming material.would be used. 


CALL and then proceed from there.

 

Lisa

 

  _  

From: Kirsteen Wright [mailto:kirsteen.falcons...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 10:41 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSMercury in fillings

 

 

On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 3:17 PM, Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com
wrote:

Kirsteen...have you checked to see if you have a dental college in your area
they will do things for alot cheaper. 


There is a dental hospital but because of the ME it's just not an option.
This is th only dentist I've found that can accomodate what I need for that.

If they are not going to dam off your throat drilling the old fillings out I
would not even bother because the fumes and dust will go right into your
lungs,


Unfortunately, I know that. I'm not having the fillings removed to get rid
of them but some are crumbling and will have to have at least part removed
before the teeth can be repaired.  Believe me I'd rather leave them the way
they are but it's not an option. 

One tooth has 3 walls and nothing in the middle (though there's bound to be
old bits of mercury filling), one has split in half horizontally and again
has old filling but rough and only half the size it should e and several
have fillings that have come loose or the walls have crumbled.

I haven't been to a dentist for years; first of all because I was housebound
and physically unable to and then i kept putting it off precisely because I
didn't want the mercury tampered with. Now it's got to the stage I don't
really have a choice.

Cheers
Kirsteen



 



Re: CSMercury in fillings

2010-03-11 Thread Peter Converse
Hi Kirsteen,

I highly recommend joining the Yahoo group called adult-metal-chelation and 
definitely finding a biological dentist who can do the work for you as safely 
as possible. 

There are things you can take, such as charcoal capsules, to absorb any mercury 
you might take in from the dental work but posting to the group might give you 
a much higher chance of success by providing you with an overall game plan on 
how to proceed. There are members experienced in this issue there who can also 
suggest some low dose chelation protocols to help you get rid of the heavy 
metal burden you might have, after you dental work has been completed.

How a dentist handles the mercury removal while working on you and how he/she 
supports you with supplemental O2 while simultaneously suctioning off mercury 
vapor-laden air from the vicinity to prevent you from breathing it in is 
considered vitally important by some experts. A rubber dam placed in the mouth 
is the very least which needs to done to prevent you from ingesting fragments 
of fillings which might otherwise make it down your throat but the other 
measures are almost equally important.

If you can't afford the right kind of dentist, get some money somewhere so you 
can afford one because the wrong kind of dentist can cause you to experience 
some very life changing and unpleasant experiences which, believe me, you want 
to avoid! Been there...done that...got the T-shirt!

Take whatever time you can to make the right choices for the best possible 
outcome and it will be well worth it. You'll be glad you did. Also, read Dr. 
Andrew Hall Cutler's book, Amalgam Illness, Diagnosis and Treatment. Being as 
informed as you can be about this matter, and acting accordingly, will be 
something that will pay off for decades for you, in terms of your health and 
your finances.

Look at the Immune Restoration Handbook, available from The Keep Hope Alive 
Home Page. It has many immune supportive ideas and is well worth the small 
price it costs.

I hope this helps,

Peter
  - Original Message - 
  From: Kirsteen Wright 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 4:45 AM
  Subject: CSMercury in fillings


  Hi Guys

  I've been having a lot of problems with my teeth lately and I can't put off 
going to the dentist much longer. The problem is that I have quite a few 
mercury fillings. Some of these are going to have to be renewed, which will 
involve them being drilled out and new ones put in. unfortunately no special 
precautions will be taken by the dentist. There may even be some teeth that get 
mercury fillings for the first time :-(

  According to the dentist, he could put white fillings in the teeth at the 
front for 'cosmetic reasons' but if I want them at the back I would need a note 
from the doc to say I was allergic to mercury. It's pretty academic anyway as 
there's no way I can afford them.
  Living on disability benefits I get the dental treatment free, but non 
mercury fillings or removal of mercury isn't included. i know health is a 
priority but when it's a choice of paying my rent or paying for non mercury 
fillings and being homeless then it ain't much of a choice.

  I feel my immune system is already severely compromised (I have myalgic 
encephomeyelytis) so is there anything I can do to lesten the impact of all 
this mercury floating about.

  Cheers
  Kirsteen


Re: CSPotassium Deficiency Information

2010-03-11 Thread Sam L.
Salt Substitute made by Morton contains Potassium chloride, dont know if it
qualifies. Ive been using this for years.

Sam

On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 11:54 AM, MaryAnn Helland
marmar...@bellsouth.netwrote:

 OK -- I have Googled this -- and am more than confused.  First of all, I
 can't find anything described as *AR grade*.   Second, all of the bulk
 providers that I pursued are geared to sell to companies, research labs,
 etc. -- and not to individuals.  Third -- some Google references are for
 de-icing products -- what's that about?  Is that the same thing?  Fourth --
 one company listed over two dozen different Potassium Chloride products.  I
 have *no* chemistry education and absolutely do not know where to go with
 this.  :-(
 MA

  --
 *From:* MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net

 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Thu, March 11, 2010 8:50:06 AM

 *Subject:* Re: CSPotassium Deficiency Information

  Hello Brooks -- thank you for that wonderful information.  The next
 logical question is where does one get AR grade Potassium Chloride Salt?
 I'll Google it, but thought you might have a better/best sort of answer.
 MA

  --
 *From:* Brooks Bradley bradlebro...@gmail.com
 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Wed, March 10, 2010 5:15:13 PM
 *Subject:* CSPotassium Deficiency Information

   I impose on the good offices of the list membership's
 collective patience..but I believe this information is
 exceptionally valuable to the lay-person audience
 and also to the studied academics among us.  Joe Vialls has been dead
 for several years now...but he was...in trutha real warrior for
 the just cause of informing the public
 of many of the cardinal elements critical to vibrant health in human
 beings.  It is my belief that this information is of genuine value to
 most people, if only for its address of the critical role
 potassium plays.together with valid observations pointing out the
 almost deliberate attempts by portions of the allopathic community
 to marginalize the critical role adequate levels of
 potassium play in maintaining sound health.
   Sincerely, Brooks
 Bradley/



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Re: CSPotassium Deficiency Information

2010-03-11 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
Apparently, it is a myth that bananas are high in potassium -- the jacket 
potato contains four times as much weight for weight.  dee

On 11 Mar 2010, at 16:05, Sandee George wrote:

 Agreed Brooks, so eat bananas - that is why monkeys are so active and healthy 
    smile
 Regards
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Re: CSMercury in fillings

2010-03-11 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
I am the same Kirsteen.  I have a broken tooth but I just cannot afford to have 
the work done that I need.  It cost thousands of pounds to have the work done.  
dee

On 11 Mar 2010, at 15:40, Kirsteen Wright wrote:

 
 
 On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 3:17 PM, Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Kirsteen...have you checked to see if you have a dental college in your area 
 they will do things for alot cheaper.
 
 There is a dental hospital but because of the ME it's just not an option. 
 This is th only dentist I've found that can accomodate what I need for that.
 
 If they are not going to dam off your throat drilling the old fillings out I 
 would not even bother because the fumes and dust will go right into your 
 lungs,
 


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Re: CSMaking 100% colloidal EIS

2010-03-11 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
It is a marvellous piece of knowledge to have--well done Marshall!  dee

On 11 Mar 2010, at 16:06, Norton, Steve wrote:

 We now have a cheap and easy way to provide 100% particulate CS. Not everyone 
 views EIS as we do. There are health sites that push CS over EIS for internal 
 uses. And of course people have to purchase the CS at fairly high prices vs 
 making their own. I can't say whether the site moderators really believe 
 their claims or if profit is a motive. But now those people who want CS 
 because of what they are told can now be given an inexpensive alternative to 
 get a quality CS,
 
 - Steve N
 


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Re: CSMercury in fillings

2010-03-11 Thread Deborah Gerard
dee...won't they barter with you?
Deb





From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, March 11, 2010 1:42:35 PM
Subject: Re: CSMercury in fillings

I am the same Kirsteen.  I have a broken tooth but I just cannot afford to have 
the work done that I need.  It cost thousands of pounds to have the work done.  
dee

On 11 Mar 2010, at 15:40, Kirsteen Wright wrote:

 
 
 On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 3:17 PM, Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Kirsteen...have you checked to see if you have a dental college in your area 
 they will do things for alot cheaper.
 
 There is a dental hospital but because of the ME it's just not an option. 
 This is th only dentist I've found that can accomodate what I need for that.
 
 If they are not going to dam off your throat drilling the old fillings out I 
 would not even bother because the fumes and dust will go right into your 
 lungs,
 


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Re: CSPotassium Deficiency Information

2010-03-11 Thread Deborah Gerard
Sam how do you take it?
Debbie





From: Sam L. one...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, March 11, 2010 1:21:22 PM
Subject: Re: CSPotassium Deficiency Information

Salt Substitute made by Morton contains Potassium chloride, dont know if it 
qualifies. Ive been using this for years.

Sam


On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 11:54 AM, MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net 
wrote:

OK -- I have Googled this -- and am more than confused.  First of all, I can't 
find anything described as *AR grade*.   Second, all of the bulk providers that 
I pursued are geared to sell to companies, research labs, etc. -- and not to 
individuals.  Third -- some Google references are for de-icing products -- 
what's that about?  Is that the same thing?  Fourth -- one company listed over 
two dozen different Potassium Chloride products.  I have no chemistry education 
and absolutely do not know where to go with this.  :-(
MA 





From: MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net 

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, March 11, 2010 8:50:06 AM 

Subject: Re: CSPotassium Deficiency Information



Hello Brooks -- thank you for that wonderful information.  The next logical 
question is where does one get AR grade Potassium Chloride Salt?
I'll Google it, but thought you might have a better/best sort of answer.
MA 





From: Brooks Bradley bradlebro...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, March 10, 2010 5:15:13 PM
Subject: CSPotassium Deficiency Information

              I impose on the good offices of the list membership's
collective patience..but I believe this information is
exceptionally valuable to the lay-person audience
and also to the studied academics among us.  Joe Vialls has been dead
for several years now...but he was...in trutha real warrior for
the just cause of informing the public
of many of the cardinal elements critical to vibrant health in human
beings.  It is my belief that this information is of genuine value to
most people, if only for its address of the critical role
potassium plays.together with valid observations pointing out the
almost deliberate attempts by portions of the allopathic community
to marginalize the critical role adequate levels of
potassium play in maintaining sound health.
                                                  Sincerely, Brooks Bradley/



http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/salud/salud_potassium.htm


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Re: CSPleurisy

2010-03-11 Thread sol

Day Sutton wrote:
I have a friend that has been diagnosed with pleurisy. Doc gave him a 
prescription for simvastatin anyone know a CS protocol that will help?

*pleurisy definition - medical *

pleu·ri·sy (plo?or?i(-se-)

noun
An inflammation of the pleura, usually occurring because of 
complications of a disease such as pneumonia, and accompanied by 
accumulation of fluid in the pleural cavity, chills, fever, and 
painful breathing and coughing. Also called pleuritis.
I can't figure out why he would be prescribed a statin (cholesterol 
lowering) drug for a lung disease?


At any rate, nebulizing with CS/DMSO might help.
sol


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Re: Re: CSPotassium Deficiency Information

2010-03-11 Thread Acmeair

no,, it doesn't say that. bananas are one of the high potassium foods to eat. it is just that a potato, with skin, has just four times more. maybe that's why the irish are so hardy, eh? jimMar 11, 2010 10:49:12 AM, silver-list@eskimo.com wrote:
Apparently, it is a myth that bananas are high in potassium -- the jacket potato contains four times as much weight for weight. deeOn 11 Mar 2010, at 16:05, Sandee George wrote: Agreed Brooks, so eat bananas - that is why monkeys are so active and healthy  smile Regards Sandee--The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver.Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.orgUnsubscribe:Archives:http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.htmlOff-Topic discussions: List Owner: Mike Devour 



Re: CSany help dealing with MRSA, please

2010-03-11 Thread Rainie Cole
Thank you to all of your who have responded so far.  You are all so
immensely intelligent and generous in sharing your knowledge.  I am very
grateful to you.   I am going to send this information (of course
anonymously) to my friend.  Info only no names or email addresses.  Please
if any others of you read this and have anything to add, I would appreciate
it immensely and so would my friend and her niece.

On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 4:35 AM, Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.netwrote:

 It's actually Brooks Bradley's formula, Shirley. :)
 I learned it on this list. The original is 75% CS, 15% Glycerine,
 and 10% DMSO. I've had problems with dry skin though, and use 85%
 CS, 10% Glycerine, and 5% DMSO. It has indeed worked wonders for my
 MRSA -- though I still don't seem to be rid of it, my symptoms are
 greatly reduced. I have have had only one minor abscess on my left
 leg in the last two months. Using it as a nasal spray will
 practically eliminate sinus allergies, too. I am sure that if my skin
 wasn't so easily dried out the B.B. formula would have licked it by
 now, but I do get so dry it's painful, and so cannot use it everyday.

 But lately I've also begun using a Hulda Clark zapper, and it too is
 helping. I highly recommend Clark's book (in spite of it's hyperbolic
 title), The Cure For All Diseases. Many people on the Yahoo group
 microelectricitygermkiller also seem to be having quite a bit of
 success with the godzilla device.

 Cheers,
 indi

 I talked to a friend today that had gotten a call from her X's wife saying
 he was very very sick (MRSA) and wanted to know if she had anything he could
 take to keep him from the hospital.  I had recently given her some MMS for a
 fungus on her mule and she has been using CS also recently.  She took both
 over there to him.  She said he looked like death, not gray but a pasty clay
 color and had lumps down his arm.  She couldn't believe he wasn't in the
 hospital.

 She had downloaded the on-line book on MMS and gave that to him, explained
 how to mix it and left a sprayer filled with cs for his arm.  He was in bad
 shape and she was worried about being exposed herself.  He sprayed his arm
 with CS and said it immediately felt better.  He took 15 drops of AMMS.  She
 was worried because she had never used MMS internally.  She called this
 morning and talked to his wife to see how he was doing and she said he was
 200% better and had gone to work.  I was worried about the side effects of
 MMS (nausia/diarhria) at the 15 drop level without build up.

 I will be interested to see how this turns out but didn't know the MMS
 could work so fast on MRSA.  I'm glad I just ordered more.

 Dianne

 Date 2009
  Possibly Faulty memory seems to recall the use of salt in Alky water
 makers

 Least-ways, in *this* one...

 http://www.hiddencures.com/ionizer.htm


 Frequently Asked Questions


 Q: Do you need to add minerals, and what kind?
 A: Yes, minerals are required in order for the ionizer to work. I have
 found that the most effective mineral to add is salt. Salt is needed to make
 the water conductive so that the ionizer will work.

 Ohhh Kay.
 If salt is used, one electrode makes Hypochlorus acid and the other, sodium
 hydroxide [Lye] which will definitely make that water Alkaline.
  From the handy dandy household cleaner article that sheds light on what
 blood electrifiers aka Zappers, might actually be doing. [Controllable
 Electro-Chemo-Therapy? or an MMS analog with an antidote right around the
 corner...not a blood electrolizer but a blood electro-chemicalizer, cuz
 blood is bloody salty]

 ..easier to just add a few Lye crystals to water. [And turn it into salt
 water when it hits the ole tummy]


 http://www.housekeepingchannel.com/a_820-Electrolyzed_Water_Alternative_to_Chemical_Cleaners

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrolysed_water


 http://www.psfk.com/2009/02/electrolyzed-water-miracle-cleaning-fluid-made-from-water-salt.html

 Ode



  From: Brooks Bradley
  Date: Wednesday, 23 June 2004
  Subject: CS/ MRSA cure? Comment
 
  About three years ago we conducted rather extensive evaluations for
  effectivity of colloidal silver on MRSA (presenting both topically and
  as epithelial tissue challenge in the throat).
 
  We investigated a consequential number of protocol variations. ALL
  those
  including colloidal silver proved acceptably effective.
  However, the most effective single protocol, utilizing a minimum number
  of total ingredients, revealed to be one including nothing more than
  75%
  10 to 20 ppm colloidal silver (by volume), 10% full-strength DMSO (by
  volume) and 15% Glycerin (by volume).
  Our results displayed to be (in comparison to the general anecdotal
  information in the posted article) equal or superior in time response
  to
  those claimed by the authors of the information appearing in web
  posting
  at Mr. Rense's site.
  My comments are not designed in any way to denigrate the very
  useful/effective results 

Re: CSliposomal Vit C

2010-03-11 Thread M. G. Devour
 Why does the encapsulation break down if heated? 

Think of melting butter or coconut oil, Dee. 

The lecithin provides a certain kind of lipid, fat molecules that 
happen to form little balls under the right conditions. Above a certain 
temperature that structure breaks down.

 I warmed mine slightly in the microwave before adding the lecithin. 
 The whole mix has stayed in suspension still today, so I can't see how
 it is not the 70% that Brooks said--even without using the US cleaner. 
 I would have thought the cleaner was just to mix the two substances up
 but bow to superior knowledge. 

I think the question is if you just mixed the ingredients and 
thoroughly dissolved the lecithin *without* either ultrasonic or 
blender agitation if you'd see anything different on the gross scale of 
looking at it? The lecithin can go into the water and stay dissolved 
regardless of whether it's liposomal, I think.

I suspect that the possibility of seeing a meniscus (dividing line) 
between, say, the yellow part and left-over unencapsulated ascorbate 
solution (clear), would be a better indication that we are doing 
something good on the microscopic level than having it stay completely 
homogeneous to the naked eye.

I'm saying this because, with the US cleaner I'm using and the 
particular brand of lecithin, I've never seen any tendency to separate 
out. So either we've been doing it perfectly, or not at all, or 
somewhere in between, and I don't yet know how to tell! grin

Perhaps Brooks will have some input.

Meanwhile, at least you should know that there's nothing wrong with 
taking lecithin or C, regardless of how much might be encapsulated. 
It's all good. Some might be better... smile

Be well,

Mike D.

[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
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Re: CSShingles

2010-03-11 Thread Vigilius Haufniensis
Find a good practitioner of TCM.  They should have the herbal formula there or 
be able to put together a formula with raw herbs.  You can also order the 
formula on line.
I'd have the patent formula at the house just in case you have another 
outbreak.  I understand it's quite painful.



  - Original Message - 
  From: Sunwaterclear - Sunny 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 8:30 AM
  Subject: Re: CSShingles


  Hey again, thanks all.. shingles not gone yet, but haven't yet received 
chinese medicine or MSM.. Like your friend, Lois, I'll try anything... haven't 
got any glycerine, but assumed it's a non active ingredient, so just tried 
today pasting on CS and DMSO in the same ration as you suggested.. let's see... 
I'm concerned about the post shingles neuralgia.. that some sites 'threaten'... 
but know it's better not to focus on what I don't want... 

  I had NO idea shingles came from having chicken pox.. and that there is a 
vaccine in theUS for those over 62 [I don't qualify yet!]... off to investigate 
that vaccine now.. I am wary of all vaccines..but just curious..

  Appreciate your offers and have tried as many as the bank will allow right 
now!!! 

  Am making my CS with a generator... 

  with love
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  Suan Zao Ren Tang.  It's a Chinese herbal formula.  The shingles will be gone 
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From: zzekel...@aol.com 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 6:23 AM
Subject: Re: CSShingles


In a message dated 3/8/2010 4:42:29 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
sunwatercl...@yahoo.com writes:
  And the shingles marches on.. quite painful now and I'm awaiting various 
remedies recommended by all you wonderful listers, on here and elsewhere.   

  sunny
Hi Sunny, found this by chance when I read one of the GMO subjects... I 
have a friend who was hit by a really bad case of shingles. I had never tried 
this but she said she would try anything.  I gave her some EIS--( CS )  a 
bottle of what I call the Brooks Mix  She took a tsp per day of EIS (CS)   
applied the Mix to the shingles topically... In about a week they were gone. 
This was over a year ago  she had one reoccurrence when she had not had any 
EIS. Now she has her own simple generator  no more shingles...
www.atlasnova.com ...The Mix =   75%  EIS (CS) ---10 % DMSO ---15 % 
Glycerin   ... It is also great to cure many skin problems... {{ I use a shot 
glass-- 3-shots of EIS---1 shot of DMSO  11/2 shot glycerin... give it a 
shake shake before you put it on.}}
   There are a lot of good generators out there. The one from atlasnova is 
just the one I found out about first  very reasonable Good luck-- Lois



Re: CSMercury in fillings

2010-03-11 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
No chance!  Not in the UK. dee

On 11 Mar 2010, at 19:07, Deborah Gerard wrote:

 dee...won't they barter with you?
 Deb
 
 From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Thu, March 11, 2010 1:42:35 PM
 Subject: Re: CSMercury in fillings
 
 I am the same Kirsteen.  I have a broken tooth but I just cannot afford to 
 have the work done that I need.  It cost thousands of pounds to have the work 
 done.  dee
 


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Re: CSPleurisy

2010-03-11 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
They try and give everyone they can statins--must be terrific kudos from the 
Big Pharma!  My friend was put on statins and her cholesterol was only 4.7  
They put me on it when my sugars were slightly elevated.  Caused immediate 
memory loss and sent me scuttling to find out more about them!  Wouldn't touch 
them with a pole now.  dee

On 11 Mar 2010, at 18:05, sol wrote:

 Day Sutton wrote:
 I have a friend that has been diagnosed with pleurisy. Doc gave him a 
 prescription for simvastatin anyone know a CS protocol that will help?
 *pleurisy definition - medical *
 
 pleu·ri·sy (plo?or?i(-se-)
 


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Re: CSPotassium Deficiency Information

2010-03-11 Thread Vigilius Haufniensis

gatorade.





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To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: CSPotassium Deficiency Information


Apparently, it is a myth that bananas are high in potassium -- the jacket 
potato contains four times as much weight for weight.  dee


On 11 Mar 2010, at 16:05, Sandee George wrote:

Agreed Brooks, so eat bananas - that is why monkeys are so active and 
healthy    smile

Regards
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Re: CSPotassium Deficiency Information

2010-03-11 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
Yes but everyone thinks bananas are one of the highest and they are not.  He 
actually says its a lie--not a myth.  They are quite low if you look at the 
chart.  Broccoli and spinach etc., are higher and fruits especially dried ones. 
 dee
 
On 11 Mar 2010, at 19:13, Acmeair wrote:

 no,, it doesn't say that.  bananas are one of the high potassium foods to 
 eat.  it is just that a potato, with skin, has just four times more.  maybe 
 that's why the irish are so hardy, eh?   jim
 
 
 Mar 11, 2010 10:49:12 AM, silver-list@eskimo.com wrote:
 Apparently, it is a myth that bananas are high in potassium -- the jacket 
 potato contains four times as much weight for weight. dee
 
 On 11 Mar 2010, at 16:05, Sandee George wrote:
 
 


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Re: CSliposomal Vit C

2010-03-11 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
This is it Mike--how do we know if it is encapsulated?  Mine has stayed all the 
one milky colour with no separation that I can see at all.  I am using sodium 
ascorbate so whether that has made any difference I don't know.  The little 
Bullet sort of blender I'm using is quite fierce, and I only pulse it about six 
times.  The one I made today I made without heating the water at all and 
although it took much longer for the lecithin to 'melt' it still has had the 
same results.  Has anyone had any different ones to this i.e. has anyone had 
theirs separating?  Thanks for the info anyway--it is still ok anyhow but it 
would be nice to *know!*  dee

On 11 Mar 2010, at 14:22, M. G. Devour wrote:

 Why does the encapsulation break down if heated? 
 
 Think of melting butter or coconut oil, Dee. 
 
 The lecithin provides a certain kind of lipid, fat molecules that 
 happen to form little balls under the right conditions. Above a certain 
 temperature that structure breaks down.
 
 I warmed mine slightly in the microwave before adding the lecithin. 
 The whole mix has stayed in suspension still today, so I can't see how
 it is not the 70% that Brooks said--even without using the US cleaner. 
 I would have thought the cleaner was just to mix the two substances up
 but bow to superior knowledge. 
 


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Re: CSSilver Oxide Formation

2010-03-11 Thread poast
Hello Ode,

If I am understanding you correctly, that would indicate that all of the
silver partials in EIS are oxidized...

I was really looking forward to putting the EIS into the force field
generator and letting the dialithium crystals take a shot at oxidizing them.
Oh well, it's best to keep things simple, just brew and use.

Tom


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From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 2:40 AM
Subject: Re: CSSilver Oxide Formation


It's electrolysis of the water.  Hydrogen and Oxygen.

 ode


 At 01:32 PM 3/10/2010 -0800, you wrote:
 Hello Steve,
 
 It may also be important to figure out what oxidizes silver to form these
 oxides.
 
 Tom


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Re: CSPotassium Deficiency Information

2010-03-11 Thread Sara Mandal-Joy
I buy food grade potassium chloride from vitaglo, NOW brand.  It is 
inexpensive and works well for me.

I use it half and half with real salt  for all salt purposes.  Sara


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Re: CSMercury in fillings

2010-03-11 Thread Sara Mandal-Joy
Like what Peter has to say about this, and while trying to do your 
research and gather funds somehow (believe me, I understand that one - 
haven't been able to do it myself yet) - you might want to try this.
I brush three or four times a day with a dab of coconut oil, topped with 
3-4 drops of tea tree oil, topped with a sprinkle of Peelu Dental 
Fibers.   I have a mouth full of fillings, most of which have been 
there for twenty years or more and are breaking down.  I haven't yet 
been able to replace them.  I do do cilantro regularly to help my body 
deal with the mercury.  I haven't been to a dentist in 15 years, and 
don't plant to till I can afford to go to a good  one and get these 
fillings replaced.   There was a time about 5 years ago that I was sure 
I was going to have to give in - had been losing fillings, and was 
having active pain.This regime with the tea tree oil and peelu has 
taken care of that, completely.  No bleeding from the gums, no pain.  I 
do pick at my teeth with toothpicks and such after each meal, going 
deep into all the cracks and crannies left by missing fillings.   So far 
it is working well.  The few times I've backed off from this for 
whatever reason - tried a new xylitol based toothpaste recently, for 
instance, I immediately start to get into severe trouble, within a week 
or so.  But one day back on this regime and I'm okay.Well worth a 
try.Sara

Hi Kirsteen,
 
I highly recommend joining the Yahoo group called 
adult-metal-chelation and definitely finding a biological dentist who 
can do the work for you as safely as possible.
 
There are things you can take, such as charcoal capsules, to absorb 
any mercury you might take in from the dental work but posting to the 
group might give you a much higher chance of success by providing you 
with an overall game plan on how to proceed. There are members 
experienced in this issue there who can also suggest some low dose 
chelation protocols to help you get rid of the heavy metal burden you 
might have, after you dental work has been completed.
 
How a dentist handles the mercury removal while working on you and how 
he/she supports you with supplemental O2 while simultaneously 
suctioning off mercury vapor-laden air from the vicinity to prevent 
you from breathing it in is considered vitally important by some 
experts. A rubber dam placed in the mouth is the very least which 
needs to done to prevent you from ingesting fragments of fillings 
which might otherwise make it down your throat but the other measures 
are almost equally important.
 
If you can't afford the right kind of dentist, get some money 
somewhere so you can afford one because the wrong kind of dentist can 
cause you to experience some very life changing and unpleasant 
experiences which, believe me, you want to avoid! Been there...done 
that...got the T-shirt!
 
Take whatever time you can to make the right choices for the best 
possible outcome and it will be well worth it. You'll be glad you did. 
Also, read Dr. Andrew Hall Cutler's book, Amalgam Illness, Diagnosis 
and Treatment. Being as informed as you can be about this matter, and 
acting accordingly, will be something that will pay off for decades 
for you, in terms of your health and your finances.
 
Look at the Immune Restoration Handbook, available from The Keep 
Hope Alive Home Page. It has many immune supportive ideas and is well 
worth the small price it costs.
 
I hope this helps,
 
Peter


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*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Thursday, March 11, 2010 4:45 AM
*Subject:* CSMercury in fillings

Hi Guys

I've been having a lot of problems with my teeth lately and I
can't put off going to the dentist much longer. The problem is
that I have quite a few mercury fillings. Some of these are going
to have to be renewed, which will involve them being drilled out
and new ones put in. unfortunately no special precautions will be
taken by the dentist. There may even be some teeth that get
mercury fillings for the first time :-(

According to the dentist, he could put white fillings in the teeth
at the front for 'cosmetic reasons' but if I want them at the back
I would need a note from the doc to say I was allergic to mercury.
It's pretty academic anyway as there's no way I can afford them.
Living on disability benefits I get the dental treatment free, but
non mercury fillings or removal of mercury isn't included. i know
health is a priority but when it's a choice of paying my rent or
paying for non mercury fillings and being homeless then it ain't
much of a choice.

I feel my immune system is already severely compromised (I have
myalgic encephomeyelytis) so is there anything I can do to lesten
the impact of all this mercury floating about.

Cheers
Kirsteen




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Re: CSPotassium Deficiency Information

2010-03-11 Thread Sara Mandal-Joy
I would never use Morton - yes, it contains potassium chloride, but 
also a bunch of junk/chemicals.

MUCH better to purchase potassium chloride with nothing else in it.Sara
Salt Substitute made by Morton contains Potassium chloride, dont know 
if it qualifies. Ive been using this for years.





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Re: CSPotassium Deficiency Information

2010-03-11 Thread Sara Mandal-Joy
All fresh fruits and vegetables are full of potassium, especially raw.  
Cooking alters that - including for
potatoes, and I'm not fond of raw potatoes - though there are those who 
swear by it.   Oranges are high, even more so if you eat them with some 
of the peel (assuming they are grown chemical free).  If you eat a diet 
of mostly fruits and vegetables you really can't miss getting enough 
potassium.Sara
no,, it doesn't say that.  bananas are one of the high potassium foods 
to eat.  it is just that a potato, with skin, has just four times 
more.  maybe that's why the irish are so hardy, eh?   jim





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Re: CSPotassium Deficiency Information

2010-03-11 Thread Annie B Smythe
I use potassium bicarbonate. I don't get enough 
fresh fruit and veggies, well raw that is. I like 
the alkalizing effect of the potassium 
bicarbonate. Kills two birds with one stone. And I 
hesitate to believe there's any more potassium in 
fruits and veggies than there are minerals and 
vitamins with the depleted soils. And everyone 
can't afford organic, It's pricey. That's one 
reason I want to grow my own this year:)



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Re: CSliposomal Vit C

2010-03-11 Thread cking001
On 3/11/2010 4:21:30 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick (d...@deetroy.org) wrote:
 Thanks for this Chuck.  Can I ask another question?  The mix I made is
 three tablespoons of lecithin to one sort of level teaspoon of sodium
 ascorbate.  This in a cup and a half of DW.  The question is: is this a
 high level of Vit C altogether?  I mean--how much of this do I drink in
 one go and approximately how many grams would it be?  I am no good at maths
 I'm afraid.

A level teaspoonful of Ascorbic Acid (Vitamin C) is said to be 4
grams. I've seen others reference it to be 5 grams.

This is a fairly large dose, and would probably induce a bowel
reaction for first timers. It is a great dose for general health
maintenance.

If you DID get a bowel reaction...your body acclimates fairly quickly,
and the same dose the next day would be easily tolerated.

You could then increase the dosage in this manner (daily) until you DO
find a dose that you don't feel like tolerating.

That could be considered your limit.

I've found the limit to be tremendously increased using Brook's
discovery/protocol.

 I know this is the protocol as Brooks said--without using the US cleaner that 
 is--but I was wondering how much this would actually be in grams etc.,  I am 
 still a bit worried about the article(s) I have read citing the low dose 
 vitC/cancer connection and I know Brooks'
 research was done using high doses, so am wondering what category this
 would fall into.

Health maintenance.


Chuck
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Re: CSliposomal Vit C

2010-03-11 Thread Saralou Pedigo
Pretty much we know by logic and faith.  Because Brooks has the equipment to
test it; because Brooks did the testing and developed the protocol, and
because Brooks said so.

Brooks initially posted a method by which the home encapsulator could
measure encapsulation and retracted it as inaccurate.  Perhaps you're
remembering that post and mixing it into some others.

Brooks said nothing about the liquid staying in emulsion (no separation)
being an indicator of encapsulation (save in the post which he
retracted). No separation is not an indicator of encapsulation but an
indicator of emulsification.  Your water and your lecithin is mixed quite
well.  Says nothing about how much Sodium Ascorbate was encapsulated--per
Brooks retraction of how to test.

Brooks Bradley's testing showed that the ultrasonic cleaner was the way one
could achieve micro encapsulation of vitamin C.  The effect of the
ultrasonic cleaner is to blast the lecithin and the C together very
forcefully so that whammo, the C is encapsulated in the Lecithin.  Without
the additional force of the ultrasonic cleaner, according to his testing, it
is not possible to achieve more than about 20% encpasulation if that.  And
that would be if using any kind of mechanical mixing/blending device.

In another vein, if you're concerned with encapsulation, Dee, warm your DW
and melt the lecithin then zap it a few times with your Magic Bullet.  Put
it in the fridge and let it cool without doing anything with the Sodium
Ascorbate.  Once the Lecithin mixture is cool then add the sodium ascorbate
and use your blender to encapsulate what will with the force available.

Have you used EIS instead of distilled water yet?  Makes it a realy icky
color.  I suppose that means some of the silver has come out of it's ionic
form? Dunno but am curious.

SL



On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 2:43 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.orgwrote:

 This is it Mike--how do we know if it is encapsulated?  Mine has stayed all
 the one milky colour with no separation that I can see at all.  I am using
 sodium ascorbate so whether that has made any difference I don't know.  The
 little Bullet sort of blender I'm using is quite fierce, and I only pulse it
 about six times.  The one I made today I made without heating the water at
 all and although it took much longer for the lecithin to 'melt' it still has
 had the same results.  Has anyone had any different ones to this i.e. has
 anyone had theirs separating?  Thanks for the info anyway--it is still ok
 anyhow but it would be nice to *know!*  dee

 On 11 Mar 2010, at 14:22, M. G. Devour wrote:

  Why does the encapsulation break down if heated?
 
  Think of melting butter or coconut oil, Dee.
 
  The lecithin provides a certain kind of lipid, fat molecules that
  happen to form little balls under the right conditions. Above a certain
  temperature that structure breaks down.



Re: CSPotassium Deficiency Information

2010-03-11 Thread Sara Mandal-Joy
I wouldn't touch gatorade.  Have you checked the ingredients?   Yes, 
you'd get potassium, but also lots of things you probably aren't 
wanting, including sugar/corn syrup.Sara

gatorade.





- Original Message - From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick 
d...@deetroy.org

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: CSPotassium Deficiency Information


Apparently, it is a myth that bananas are high in potassium -- the 
jacket potato contains four times as much weight for weight.  dee


On 11 Mar 2010, at 16:05, Sandee George wrote:

Agreed Brooks, so eat bananas - that is why monkeys are so active and 
healthy    smile

Regards
Sandee


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Re: CSMaking 100% colloidal EIS

2010-03-11 Thread Marshall Dudley
Here is a link with a picture I just made. It's not very good, I had to 
have the room pretty dark with no flash to even see a hint of the 
Tyndall in the EIS glass.  From left to right, 15 ppm EIS with a pinch 
of ascorbic acid added,  pure15 ppm EIS, distilled water with a pinch of 
ascorbic acid added.


Note that the colors are not true. The laser beam is actually red, but 
appears yellow because it is so overexposed.  Then the reflection of the 
beam off other particles gives the entire left hand glass a red color, 
which is really only red because the laser light is red.  The actual 
color is more of a yellow if white light comes in from the side, but 
somewhat murky due to the large number of particles.  Viewing on a white 
background and illuminated from the rear it is more bluish.


http://silver-lightning.com/ascorbic-cs.jpg

Marshall


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RE: CSSilver Oxide Formation

2010-03-11 Thread Norton, Steve
I asked my question re oxidizing the silver particles for a couple of
reasons. First, Utopia Silver once announced the upcoming debut of their
Silver Bullet but then the debut kept being put off. It was reported
that the design was still being refined. It was also announced that the
machine would provide an unprecedented percentage of silver particles
for a LVDC CS generator. Given the simplicity of the generator and the
ease of generating a high percentage of particles if you don't care what
the color of the brew is, I have always wondered why the delay. Ode's
comment made me wonder if they used 48 VDC intentionally in order to
create silver oxide on the particles and not just to shorten the brewing
time. It seems unlikely that they put that much intelligence into the
design but who knows?

The second reason was regarding the ASAP CS brand. They make their CS
using 10,000 VAC and then add 1 to 1.5 percent H2O2 by weight to the CS.
The ASAP CS is designed to have a silver oxide coating on the silver
particles. My original thought on reading their patent is that the high
H2O2 content might be the source of the silver oxide. But then Ode's
comment made me think that the high voltage might play a part. 

 - Steve N

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From: poast [mailto:po...@prodigy.net] 
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 11:46 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSSilver Oxide Formation

Hello Ode,

If I am understanding you correctly, that would indicate that all of the
silver partials in EIS are oxidized...

I was really looking forward to putting the EIS into the force field
generator and letting the dialithium crystals take a shot at oxidizing
them.
Oh well, it's best to keep things simple, just brew and use.

Tom


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To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 2:40 AM
Subject: Re: CSSilver Oxide Formation


It's electrolysis of the water.  Hydrogen and Oxygen.

 ode




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Re: CSPotassium Deficiency Information

2010-03-11 Thread LINDARAY





I frequently bury a raw, organic, unpeeledpotato in my carrot/whatever juice- You can't even find the flavor in there, even with carrots alone.

Come to think of it, if you peel organic potatoes when you use them (I don't), you could juice those peels too.

Stay well,

Linda
..Gonna try growing my own potatoes this year :)
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Re: CSPotassium Bicarbonate Source?

2010-03-11 Thread LINDARAY






Hi Annie (or anyone else who knows),

Here's the question- Wheredo yougetyour Potassium Bicarbonate? Thanks in advance :-).

An interesting addendum to the Potassium discussion- whenI was younger (~30 years ago or so),I could not take Potassium. The 3 orsotimes I tried, itmade me very sick and nauseous. I had thought it would be a good thing, but at that time I guess it wasn't. From what I know now,I probably was not able to find the right form in which to ingest it, as at the time, some things were hard to find. Anyone who took vitamins at that time was still labelled a "health food freak". Ha.

Nowadays, Potassium is one of the things which helps me most, along with Magnesium. I'm still looking for the rest of whatever will help, but Potassium was instrumental in stopping my feet (Left foot, the two outside smalltoes) from burning so badly it kept me awake at night and often made it hard to walk. I figured it out from taking Emergen-C (One of the versions of it used to have higher Potassium than the others). It stopped that burning, and was the only thing that did.

Stay well,

Linda
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Re: CSPotassium Bicarbonate Source?

2010-03-11 Thread Annie B Smythe
Beyond A Century has it, and I think it was Steve 
that found it even cheaper on a wine making site, 
or similar:)


Annie
Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh


linda...@att.net wrote:

Hi Annie (or anyone else who knows),


Here's the question- Where do you get your Potassium Bicarbonate? Thanks 
in advance :-).
 
An interesting addendum to the Potassium discussion- when I was younger 
(~30 years ago or so), I could not take Potassium. The 3 or so times I 
tried, it made me very sick and nauseous. I had thought it would be a 
good thing, but at that time I guess it wasn't. From what I know now, I 
probably was not able to find the right form in which to ingest it, as 
at the time, some things were hard to find. Anyone who took vitamins at 
that time was still labelled a health food freak. Ha. 
 
Nowadays, Potassium is one of the things which helps me most, along with 
Magnesium. I'm still looking for the rest of whatever will help, but 
Potassium was instrumental in stopping my feet (Left foot, the two 
outside small toes) from burning so badly it kept me awake at night and 
often made it hard to walk. I figured it out from taking Emergen-C (One 
of the versions of it used to have higher Potassium than the others). It 
stopped that burning, and was the only thing that did.
 
Stay well,
 
Linda



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Re: CSSafe Seeds, was GMO foods

2010-03-11 Thread LINDARAY






Hi Sunny,

Yes Horizon is wonderful, and that book is on my list to get, if it's the onefrom Richo.

Another dependable source for non-GMO seeds is Baker Creek Heirloom Seeds @ www.rareseeds.com . They are also very active in attempting to stem the tide of this GMO junk.
X-ed out any seeds with patent#'s listed, I was sad to see how it lessened the selection- no more Gurney's for me.

Thanks for helping to spread the word.

Stay well,

Linda
-- Original message from Sunwaterclear - Sunny sunwatercl...@yahoo.com: -- 




Here's another great place for seeds and anyone wanting to get medicinal herbs. Ships out of Oregon.They will ship to Germany - read this rider - to International Customers, they specify certain European countries where they cannot guarantee arrival.. Germany is NOT one. You want dried seeds anyway, not fresh ones.. as they wouldn't last the journey probably.


And there's no reason why they wouldn't pass customs as there probably isnt some law about buying seeds yet... it's just that so many of the seeeds available are tainted... so you've gotta look far and wide.

This place was recommended by my permaculture instructor Chuck Marsh who grows medicinal herbs and plants as well as unusual ones. He's been at it for 35 years... and I trust his recommendations.

www.horizonherbs.com

They are also authors of a new herbal medicinal book.. sounds great, so I ordered it...I'm going to start making essaic tea... google that one...

with love
sunny
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From: Golden Aldi goldena...@gmail.comTo: silver-list@eskimo.comSent: Tue, March 9, 2010 2:29:44 PMSubject: Re: CSGMO foodsI wonder if the seeds would make customs over here in Germany, or if they would be returned to sender :-(I guess I should just give the company a call before I spend time picking seeds to order.We have, apparently, GMO butternuts, cause we've already tried 3 yrs in a row, to grow butternuts from the seeds taken from the squash we buy directly from the farmer. When I asked him what the deal was, why we never really got any decent squash, he told us he had to buy new seeds every year. I hadn't heard of Monsanto at the time, but it sure did click when I watched the movie about Monsanto.Aldi
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 10:41 PM, Sunwaterclear - Sunny sunwatercl...@yahoo.com wrote:




So Not Man owns 90%of all seed genes. Some of them are engineered to be sterile, so youhave to buy and buy.. BTW Monsantocreated DDT, Agent Orange and Aspartame. Do you want such people in charge of what you eat?

Seeds guaranteed non GMO and unSo Not Man tainted. Deadline for orders March 10

www.fedcoseeds.com If you are planting and haven't bought seeds yet, these are the people to buy from! No affiliations - wish there were! 

with love and hope
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Re: CSMaking 100% colloidal EIS

2010-03-11 Thread nupa_n...@hotmail.com
I was wondering if there was some one out there that would make me some CS. I 
will pay for the shipping and what ever else you may need to get it to me. I 
just found out I have what is called Amyloidosis. It's incurable and will 
probably die some day of this. I would like to take CS to see if it will help 
this amyloidosis




From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: carcinoma, March 11, 2010 4:28:28 PM
Subject: Re: CSMaking 100% colloidal EIS

Here is a link with a picture I just made. It's not very good, I had to have 
the room pretty dark with no flash to even see a hint of the Tyndall in the EIS 
glass.  From left to right, 15 ppm EIS with a pinch of ascorbic acid added,  
pure15 ppm EIS, distilled water with a pinch of ascorbic acid added.

Note that the colors are not true. The laser beam is actually red, but appears 
yellow because it is so overexposed.  Then the reflection of the beam off other 
particles gives the entire left hand glass a red color, which is really only 
red because the laser light is red.  The actual color is more of a yellow if 
white light comes in from the side, but somewhat murky due to the large number 
of particles.  Viewing on a white background and illuminated from the rear it 
is more bluish.

http://silver-lightning.com/ascorbic-cs.jpg

Marshall


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CSamyloidosis

2010-03-11 Thread Norton, Steve
It is claimed that serrapeptase will dissolve the excess protein that
causes amyloidosis.

 - Steve N

From: nupa_n...@hotmail.com [mailto:martinjmiller2...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 3:33 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSMaking 100% colloidal EIS

I was wondering if there was some one out there that would make me some
CS. I will pay for the shipping and what ever else you may need to get
it to me. I just found out I have what is called Amyloidosis. It's
incurable and will probably die some day of this. I would like to take
CS to see if it will help this amyloidosis


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CSCS Everywhere

2010-03-11 Thread Sunwaterclear - Sunny
Shopping today in the local church food shop for the 'less wealthy' or as some 
call it 'The THursday shop' we were perusing the ridiculously low cost vitamins 
when we heard the word 'silver'.

My husband says to the guy 'are you talking about colloidal silver?'  Yes he 
says.. I've been using it for 10 years. Got a generator made by some guy up 
Mineral Bluff way'..
 
He was a retired cop now working as a bodyguard.  He said that he got a bad 
sinus infection a couple of times and used CS.. and every day he sprays it down 
his throat religiously.  
 
Then he took our facebook address and said 'let's connect'.
 
In these back hollers, it's refreshing to know the word is spreading and has 
been slowly infiltrating...
 
sunny

 

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Re: CSPotassium Deficiency Information

2010-03-11 Thread Vigilius Haufniensis
gatorade also has high sodium content, which tends to counteract potassium. 
powerade is much better from that standpoint, but also has the sugar. 
smartwater is probably the best.





- Original Message - 
From: Sara Mandal-Joy smjl...@wavewls.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 12:51 PM
Subject: Re: CSPotassium Deficiency Information


I wouldn't touch gatorade.  Have you checked the ingredients?   Yes, you'd 
get potassium, but also lots of things you probably aren't wanting, 
including sugar/corn syrup.Sara

gatorade.





- Original Message - From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick 
d...@deetroy.org

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: CSPotassium Deficiency Information


Apparently, it is a myth that bananas are high in potassium -- the jacket 
potato contains four times as much weight for weight.  dee


On 11 Mar 2010, at 16:05, Sandee George wrote:

Agreed Brooks, so eat bananas - that is why monkeys are so active and 
healthy    smile

Regards
Sandee


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Re: CSMaking 100% colloidal EIS

2010-03-11 Thread poast
Hello Marshall,

When I add ascorbic acid to distilled water my PWT meter goes off of the
charts.

Does the ascorbic acid add ions to the water, or what am I measuring?

Tom


- Original Message - 
From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: CSMaking 100% colloidal EIS


 Here is a link with a picture I just made. It's not very good, I had to
 have the room pretty dark with no flash to even see a hint of the
 Tyndall in the EIS glass.  From left to right, 15 ppm EIS with a pinch
 of ascorbic acid added,  pure15 ppm EIS, distilled water with a pinch of
 ascorbic acid added.

 Note that the colors are not true. The laser beam is actually red, but
 appears yellow because it is so overexposed.  Then the reflection of the
 beam off other particles gives the entire left hand glass a red color,
 which is really only red because the laser light is red.  The actual
 color is more of a yellow if white light comes in from the side, but
 somewhat murky due to the large number of particles.  Viewing on a white
 background and illuminated from the rear it is more bluish.

 http://silver-lightning.com/ascorbic-cs.jpg

 Marshall


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CSVitamin D

2010-03-11 Thread Pat
I was disappointed today to find out that my 25-hydroxy vitamin D test 
showed my vitamin D level to be only 25.  I was so sure it would be high that I 
almost didn't request one.  Since last fall I've been taking at 
least 1,000 units D3 plus the D3 in my multivitamin and calcium pills.  
When the day is warm enough, I go out with a jacket and shorts to get 
some sun.  It's been a very cold winter for here, though. 

 I'd gotten my level up two years ago from 14 in February to a near ideal 55 in 
the summer by taking 2,000 units D3 and then lying in the sun 20 minutes two or 
three times a week as soon as weather allowed.

Have any of you had the vitamin D blood test?  I've heard that in the 
north in the winter, even if you lie outside naked at noon, you can't 
get any vitamin D because of the angle of the sun.  (Plus you'd be a 
popsicle!)

Pat



  


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Re: CSVitamin D

2010-03-11 Thread slickpicker
Several months ago my 25OH-D level was about 75.  I take 5000 i.u. D3 per day 
in addition to smaller amounts in my multivitamin.  I take none on summer days 
when I can get 20-30 minutes in the Arizona sun.  I have seen some 
recommendations for levels as high as 100, especially if you're dealing with a 
serious health concern like fending off cancer.

TW



 Pat pattycake29...@yahoo.com wrote: 

=
I was disappointed today to find out that my 25-hydroxy vitamin D test 
showed my vitamin D level to be only 25.  I was so sure it would be high that I 
almost didn't request one.  Since last fall I've been taking at 
least 1,000 units D3 plus the D3 in my multivitamin and calcium pills.  
When the day is warm enough, I go out with a jacket and shorts to get 
some sun.  It's been a very cold winter for here, though. 

 I'd gotten my level up two years ago from 14 in February to a near ideal 55 in 
the summer by taking 2,000 units D3 and then lying in the sun 20 minutes two or 
three times a week as soon as weather allowed.

Have any of you had the vitamin D blood test?  I've heard that in the 
north in the winter, even if you lie outside naked at noon, you can't 
get any vitamin D because of the angle of the sun.  (Plus you'd be a 
popsicle!)

Pat



  


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Re: CSVitamin D

2010-03-11 Thread slickpicker
Several months ago my 25OH-D level was about 75.  I take 5000 i.u. D3 per day 
in addition to smaller amounts in my multivitamin.  I take none on summer days 
when I can get 20-30 minutes in the Arizona sun.  I have seen some 
recommendations for levels as high as 100, especially if you're dealing with a 
serious health concern like fending off cancer.

TW

 Pat pattycake29...@yahoo.com wrote: 

=
I was disappointed today to find out that my 25-hydroxy vitamin D test 
showed my vitamin D level to be only 25.  I was so sure it would be high that I 
almost didn't request one.  Since last fall I've been taking at 
least 1,000 units D3 plus the D3 in my multivitamin and calcium pills.  
When the day is warm enough, I go out with a jacket and shorts to get 
some sun.  It's been a very cold winter for here, though. 

 I'd gotten my level up two years ago from 14 in February to a near ideal 55 in 
the summer by taking 2,000 units D3 and then lying in the sun 20 minutes two or 
three times a week as soon as weather allowed.

Have any of you had the vitamin D blood test?  I've heard that in the 
north in the winter, even if you lie outside naked at noon, you can't 
get any vitamin D because of the angle of the sun.  (Plus you'd be a 
popsicle!)

Pat



  


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Re: CSPleurisy

2010-03-11 Thread Leo Regehr
probiotics fixed my bronchitus and sinusitus. Take 20 billion capsule, 2-3 
times per day. Let us know how it works.
Leo


  - Original Message - 
  From: Day Sutton 
  To: Silver Post 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 5:10 PM
  Subject: CSPleurisy


  I have a friend that has been diagnosed with pleurisy.  Doc gave him a 
prescription for simvastatin  anyone know a CS protocol that will help?

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Re: CSVitamin D

2010-03-11 Thread icccmda...@netzero.com
Howdy,

I take 5,000 units of D3 even in the summer time in Phoenix. At work I'm in and 
out of the air conditioning all day long and this way I do not get the summer 
sniffles, dry nose as bad.

R. David Hanthorn

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From: slickpic...@cox.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Cc: Pat pattycake29...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: CSVitamin D
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 21:05:21 -0700

Several months ago my 25OH-D level was about 75.  I take 5000 i.u. D3 per day 
in addition to smaller amounts in my multivitamin.  I take none on summer days 
when I can get 20-30 minutes in the Arizona sun.  I have seen some 
recommendations for levels as high as 100, especially if you're dealing with a 
serious health concern like fending off cancer.

TW



 Pat pattycake29...@yahoo.com wrote: 

=
I was disappointed today to find out that my 25-hydroxy vitamin D test 
showed my vitamin D level to be only 25.  I was so sure it would be high that I 
almost didn't request one.  Since last fall I've been taking at 
least 1,000 units D3 plus the D3 in my multivitamin and calcium pills.  
When the day is warm enough, I go out with a jacket and shorts to get 
some sun.  It's been a very cold winter for here, though. 

 I'd gotten my level up two years ago from 14 in February to a near ideal 55 in 
the summer by taking 2,000 units D3 and then lying in the sun 20 minutes two or 
three times a week as soon as weather allowed.

Have any of you had the vitamin D blood test?  I've heard that in the 
north in the winter, even if you lie outside naked at noon, you can't 
get any vitamin D because of the angle of the sun.  (Plus you'd be a 
popsicle!)

Pat



  


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