Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's
Sebastian Günther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately the GPL has not been written in an unambiguous way. This is why the OSI rated the GPL as non-free for several years. Some years ago, the FSF explained that the GPL needs to be interpreted in a way that makes it compliant to the rules at http://www.opensource.org/docs/osd And that is the bottom of the line in this whole elaborate discussion: The definition of freedom. I *like* the GPL because of that You have all the freedom, exept to cut down this freedom-attitude. It is like: I am a tolerant person, but not to intolerant people. And as another example: The german constitution also prohibits the change of the articles that guarantee human rights. You seem to have a major missunderstanding with the background ot the constitution. The constitution has not been written to save the constitution while ignoring possible harm to the people. The constitution does not give asymmetric rights to parts of the whole population only. The GPL however limits the usability of OpenSource as OSS and claims this is in order to save OSS. The GPL allows GPLd software to use any kind of software but disallows other OpenSource Software to use GPLd software. Another big problem with the GPL is that the Free Software Foundation does not care about leality in own projects. There are at least two official FSF projects that did ilegally change the license of the code they use from other projects. libcdio did change code taken from cdrtools from GPLv2-only to GPLv2-or-any-later and vcdimager publishes code under GPL that never has been put under GPL by the author. And if I wrote software, I would not want people to reuse the codeit in closed source. So GPL is the right choice for me, because of the viral and supposed non-free issue. If you like this, you do not need to forbid to use the software for other OSS as done by the GPL. But remember, if more people contibute to a software project, then the license is some essential part of the collaboration. Changing it requires the consensus of *all* people who *ever* contributed to it. You are obviously uninformed about legal facts. In Europe as well as in the USA, minor contributors are not given the right to decide on this. So changing a license is always cumbersome. Then you should be against the GPL as many GPL people take BSD code and illegally add GPL tags. This may be tolerated by the authors but it is still forbidden by law. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: CD/DVD burning tools?
Daniel Iliev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 23:47:31 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joerg Schilling) wrote: You should carefully check the history to understand that most of the changes are speudo changes (like adding a space and later removing it again). I beg to differ. I don't have any reason to do anything at all. It is you who has to convince me that you are right. I did not ever send you mail asking or telling you anything. It is you who sends unwanted mails to advertise against cdrkit in favour of cdrtools to every thread about optical media in the list. That is called spam. If you are not interested in reality but only in what people pretend to do, then a further discussion with you does not seem to be useful. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: CD/DVD burning tools?
b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Daniel Iliev ha scritto: How about if you remake your site and explain everything there. What happened (chronologically and in detail) and provide evidence. Remake it to be clear with simple sentences and easy for finding the information. Then provide means (as web forum, mailing list etc) for the visitors to post their comments and questions. After all that is ready it would absolutely acceptable to participate in this and every other public list as a normal member and put links to your site in your signature. How about that? I want that too. I back the proposal of Iliev. Joerg, why don't you do that so that you can settle all this in the most informative way possible? I pointed you to the FAQ and I asked you to tell me what questions remain unanswered. I am sorry but I can only extend information if people tell me which information they like to see. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: CD/DVD burning tools?
On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 11:00:39 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joerg Schilling) wrote: b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Daniel Iliev ha scritto: How about if you remake your site and explain everything there. What happened (chronologically and in detail) and provide evidence. Remake it to be clear with simple sentences and easy for finding the information. Then provide means (as web forum, mailing list etc) for the visitors to post their comments and questions. After all that is ready it would absolutely acceptable to participate in this and every other public list as a normal member and put links to your site in your signature. How about that? I want that too. I back the proposal of Iliev. Joerg, why don't you do that so that you can settle all this in the most informative way possible? I pointed you to the FAQ and I asked you to tell me what questions remain unanswered. Sorry, never saw the message in which you ask what more info to publish. Perhaps I didn't receive it. I am sorry but I can only extend information if people tell me which information they like to see. Actually you can figure out which are the most FAQ from this thread, but let me help you for the start. Please, publish detailed information for the following events in chronological order: - When the first contact with the attackers took place and what was the reason for that contact - When the first attack took place and what (you suppose if you don't know for sure) was the reason for the attack. Describe the attack itself - what were the actions of those who attacked you - When other attacks (if any) took place. Describe them. - When you changed the license. For what reason. Explain, please, why there is no problem to mix GPL with CDDL (for me personally it is the most interesting part) - When the fork was launched - The exact statement of the lawyers you consulted - Any evidence (e-mails, posts to web forums, blogs, publications, etc) or reference to that evidence that you can provide That's what I could think off for the moment, but I'm sure others will fill in the gaps I've left. -- Best regards, Daniel -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Microphone help
Hello gentoo-user. I bought a Creative NX Pro 2 webcam a few years back, and got it working with no problems in Gentoo using the gspcav1 drivers from Portage. Now, when I plug in the microphone (Which isn't a USB, but a regular microphone) nothing happens. I can't hear it through my speakers no matter how high I make the sound and I'm not sure if there are any drivers I need to load before it will work. Running `cat /proc/asound/cards` doesn't do much...It _should_ show my device, but in actuality shows: ackbar linux # cat /proc/asound/cards 0 [Intel ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel HDA Intel at 0xfeb38000 irq 16 So at the moment I'm pretty sure my microphone isn't being detected at all. Perhaps there is a kernel driver I missed (looked through two times) or something I need to emerge? If this driver is unusable in Gentoo, can someone recommend me a (relatively cheap) replacement? Because I'd like to be able to use it as soon as possible. Thank you. -- If programmers deserve to be rewarded for creating innovative programs, by the same token they deserve to be punished if they restrict the use of these programs. - Richard Stallman pgpqB38txytFt.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb
Norman, I am glad to know that you have chosen Gentoo as your first contact with GNU/Linux. First of all, congratulations! having a working Gentoo system without any previous Linux knowledge is a terrific start! I assumed that you knew what fstab is and how to modify that file because it is explained in the Gentoo Handbook, which is the reference to install this distribution. As explained in the Gentoo Handbook chapter 8 [1], you manually created a text file under /etc called fstab. This simple text file contains all the necessary information to, let's say auto-mount your different devices. This is my fstab, I post it here as an example: --- /dev/hdc1 /boot ext2defaults,noatime 1 2 /dev/hdc3 / reiserfsnoatime 0 1 /dev/hdc2 noneswapsw 0 0 /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom auto noauto,ro,user 0 0 /dev/floppy/fd0 /mnt/floppy autonoauto,rw,user 0 0 /dev/hda1 /mnt/RICvfat defaults,noatime,user 0 0 /dev/hdb2 /mnt/ZERO vfatdefaults,noatime,user 0 0 /dev/sda1 /mnt/USBautonoauto,rw,user # NOTE: The next line is critical for boot! proc/proc procdefaults 0 0 # glibc 2.2 and above expects tmpfs to be mounted at /dev/shm for # POSIX shared memory (shm_open, shm_unlink). # (tmpfs is a dynamically expandable/shrinkable ramdisk, and will # use almost no memory if not populated with files) shm /dev/shmtmpfs nodev,nosuid,noexec0 0 --- Usually, adding this /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom autonoauto,ro,user 0 0 should be enough to have your cd-rom/cd-rw/dvd working =). If that does not work, then let us know and see if we can figure out something else. If it does work, then great! go on enjoying Gentoo Linux. You learn a lot using Gentoo. Is the only distribution that gave m the chance to learn a lot about Linux. It is very stable and flexible, you always have control over your own system, that is very important. Regards, Ricardo. (Richard) [1] http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1chap=8 -- Cristian Gary, i've grouped it into plugdev. Richard, After i type this command /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom auto noauto,ro,user 0 0 it shows: bash: /dev/cdrom: Permission denied i've login using root account. i've right clicked at the cdrom to see the properties and under Permissions tab the Owner column stated unknown and i tried to change the Access column to Read and Write it popup The permisions could not be changed Regards, Norman -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Microphone help
On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 06:24:44 -0400 Michael Pobega [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I bought a Creative NX Pro 2 webcam a few years back, and got it working with no problems in Gentoo using the gspcav1 drivers from Portage. Now, when I plug in the microphone (Which isn't a USB, but a regular microphone) nothing happens. I can't hear it through my speakers no matter how high I make the sound and I'm not sure if there are any drivers I need to load before it will work. Running `cat /proc/asound/cards` doesn't do much...It _should_ show my device, but in actuality shows: ackbar linux # cat /proc/asound/cards 0 [Intel ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel HDA Intel at 0xfeb38000 irq 16 So at the moment I'm pretty sure my microphone isn't being detected at all. Perhaps there is a kernel driver I missed (looked through two times) or something I need to emerge? If this driver is unusable in Gentoo, can someone recommend me a (relatively cheap) replacement? Because I'd like to be able to use it as soon as possible. Thank you. Have you checked that the microphone is unmuted? Does your card have multiple options for the microphone port (line-in as well as mic)? Have you adjusted the microphone volume? These are all issues I have had with the microphone on my webcam. The drivers which matter are the soundcard drivers if you are plugging the microphone into it, so I am 99.99% sure it will work with the current setup, once you find the correct combination of settings for the sound card. Good luck with it, Rob. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] GentooVe en el Gentoo Monthly Newsletter
Este breve pero placentero mail es para avisarles de manera tranquila que ESTAMOS EN EL GMN CARAJO (respira profundo) Pueden leer la nota sobre la participación de GentooVe en el FLISOL2008 acá: http://www.gentoo.org/news/en/gmn/20080630-newsletter.xml -- En el pasado creímos que se nos acababa el petróleo, pero en realidad lo que se nos acababan eran las IDEAS. http://www.lacomunidadpetrolera.com Gentoo/* (Linux #455615) www.gentoove.org 53:04:4e:b5:f9:7e:4a:fb:66:a2:19:12:da:d5:97:f8 8A3A C955 715D D88A 87CD E21F F827 ADD7 F589 B4A4 Sebastian Magrí (sebasmagri) sebasmagri_at_gmail_dot_com
[gentoo-user] speakers have no sound in Gentoo, but work in Ubuntu
Hi, my laptop(Dell1400)'s speakers never work in Gentoo(headphones can work). But server days ago, I installed Ubuntu and I found that the speakers work(headphones also work)! I thought the alsa-driver could not drive my sound card properly before, and now, I think there must be some way since Ubuntu can work. # lspci | grep Audio 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02) / In Gentoo ***/ $ cat /proc/asound/version Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.16rc2 (Thu Jan 31 16:40:16 2008 UTC). / In Ubuntu ***/ $ cat /proc/asound/version Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.16. Compiled on Apr 21 2008 for kernel 2.6.24-16-generic (SMP). / In Gentoo ***/ # uname -a Linux wcw-laptop 2.6.25-tuxonice-r5 #1 SMP Mon Jun 30 15:13:46 CST 2008 x86_64 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T5470 @ 1.60GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux / In Ubuntu ***/ $ uname -a Linux wcw-laptop 2.6.24-16-generic #1 SMP Thu Apr 10 12:47:45 UTC 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux / In Gentoo ***/ # lsmod | grep snd Module Size Used by snd_seq_oss28992 0 snd_seq_device 6160 1 snd_seq_oss snd_seq_midi_event 6912 1 snd_seq_oss snd_seq47968 4 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event snd_pcm_oss37600 0 snd_mixer_oss 14592 1 snd_pcm_oss snd_hda_intel 405080 2 snd_pcm70984 2 snd_pcm_oss,snd_hda_intel snd_timer 19792 2 snd_seq,snd_pcm snd_page_alloc 8144 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm snd_hwdep 7816 1 snd_hda_intel snd50632 13 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_device,snd_seq,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_hwdep soundcore 6688 1 snd / In Ubuntu ***/ $ lsmod | grep snd snd_hda_intel 440408 3 snd_pcm_oss47648 0 snd_mixer_oss 20224 1 snd_pcm_oss snd_pcm92168 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm_oss snd_page_alloc 13200 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm snd_hwdep 12552 1 snd_hda_intel snd_seq_dummy 5764 0 snd_seq_oss38912 0 snd_seq_midi 10688 0 snd_rawmidi29856 1 snd_seq_midi snd_seq_midi_event 10112 2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi snd_seq63232 6 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event snd_timer 27912 2 snd_pcm,snd_seq snd_seq_device 10644 5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq snd70856 17 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_hwdep,snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device soundcore 10400 1 snd / In Gentoo ***/ # amixer Simple mixer control 'Master',0 Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Mono Limits: Playback 0 - 127 Mono: Playback 127 [100%] [0.00dB] [on] Simple mixer control 'PCM',0 Capabilities: pvolume Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 255 Mono: Front Left: Playback 255 [100%] [0.00dB] Front Right: Playback 255 [100%] [0.00dB] Simple mixer control 'Front',0 Capabilities: pvolume pswitch Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 127 Mono: Front Left: Playback 119 [94%] [-6.00dB] [on] Front Right: Playback 119 [94%] [-6.00dB] [on] Simple mixer control 'Surround',0 Capabilities: pvolume pswitch Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 127 Mono: Front Left: Playback 127 [100%] [0.00dB] [off] Front Right: Playback 127 [100%] [0.00dB] [off] Simple mixer control 'Center',0 Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Mono Limits: Playback 0 - 127 Mono: Playback 127 [100%] [0.00dB] [off] Simple mixer control 'LFE',0 Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Mono Limits: Playback 0 - 127 Mono: Playback 127 [100%] [0.00dB] [off] Simple mixer control 'Mic as Output',0 Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Mono Mono: Playback [off] Simple mixer control 'IEC958',0 Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Mono Mono: Playback [off] Simple mixer control 'Capture',0 Capabilities: cvolume cswitch Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Capture 0 - 14 Front Left: Capture 4 [29%] [6.00dB] [off] Front Right: Capture 4 [29%] [6.00dB] [off] Simple mixer control 'Capture',1 Capabilities: cvolume cswitch Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Capture 0 - 14 Front Left: Capture 5 [36%] [7.50dB] [off] Front Right: Capture 5 [36%] [7.50dB] [off] Simple mixer control 'Capture',2 Capabilities: cvolume cswitch Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Capture 0 - 14 Front Left: Capture 7 [50%] [10.50dB] [off] Front Right:
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: CD/DVD burning tools?
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 12:10 PM, Daniel Iliev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 11:00:39 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joerg Schilling) wrote: b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Daniel Iliev ha scritto: How about if you remake your site and explain everything there. What happened (chronologically and in detail) and provide evidence. Remake it to be clear with simple sentences and easy for finding the information. Then provide means (as web forum, mailing list etc) for the visitors to post their comments and questions. After all that is ready it would absolutely acceptable to participate in this and every other public list as a normal member and put links to your site in your signature. How about that? I want that too. I back the proposal of Iliev. Joerg, why don't you do that so that you can settle all this in the most informative way possible? I pointed you to the FAQ and I asked you to tell me what questions remain unanswered. Sorry, never saw the message in which you ask what more info to publish. Perhaps I didn't receive it. I am sorry but I can only extend information if people tell me which information they like to see. Actually you can figure out which are the most FAQ from this thread, but let me help you for the start. Please, publish detailed information for the following events in chronological order: - When the first contact with the attackers took place and what was the reason for that contact - When the first attack took place and what (you suppose if you don't know for sure) was the reason for the attack. Describe the attack itself - what were the actions of those who attacked you - When other attacks (if any) took place. Describe them. - When you changed the license. For what reason. Explain, please, why there is no problem to mix GPL with CDDL (for me personally it is the most interesting part) - When the fork was launched - The exact statement of the lawyers you consulted - Any evidence (e-mails, posts to web forums, blogs, publications, etc) or reference to that evidence that you can provide That's what I could think off for the moment, but I'm sure others will fill in the gaps I've left. Let me add: do not only *describe*. Post all *sources* that you have. Emails, chats, whatever. Otherwise it's just your word vs someone else, and we cannot decide. Give people the *facts*, and everything will come up by itself. m. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Fwd: [gentoo-user] beagle and thunderbird
-- Forwarded message -- From: Nirbheek Chauhan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 2:33 PM Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] beagle and thunderbird To: Dirk Uys [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 3:14 PM, Dirk Uys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] So I have app-misc/beagle-0.2.18 now, with USE-flags eds gtk pdf python thunderbird xscreensaver, along mail-client/mozilla-thunderbird-2.0.0.14 ... And I have gnome-extra/deskbar-applet-2.20.3 installed for searching. [...] Google Summer of Code 2007 sponsored a beagle project on the Thunderbird backend. The work is finished and was merged in svn trunk in September, 2007. The thunderbird backend will be available in 0.3.0+. Should I unmask this unstable release to get the feature I am looking for? You will have to keyword the following: app-misc/beagle dev-libs/libbeagle dev-dotnet/dbus-sharp dev-dotnet/dbus-glib-sharp dev-dotnet/taglib-sharp You will want to build Beagle with -eds otherwise that will add additional deps on evolution-data-server etc which you probably don't need since you use thunderbird. Also, don't build Nautilus or Yelp with the beagle USE flag, the stable versions (2.20) of both depend on beagle-0.2.18 If you face problems, feel free to mail this list or catch me (bheekling) or Arun (Ford_Prefect) on #gentoo-desktop @ FreeNode or #dashboard @ GimpNet (depending on whether the question is gentoo-specific or beagle-specifi ;) Should things behave as I expect them to behave? Beagle should behave, cedk (the maintainer) has kept the package in good shape :) Do I have to configure something somewhere? Probably not. Your profile will be migrated automatically. Once again, feel free to contact me or Arun if you face problems. This will help us as well since Arun has recently started pushing for getting Beagle stabilised with GNOME 2.22, and we would appreciate it if we could get some testers :) -- ~Nirbheek Chauhan -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] portage update bloacked
Hi, I'm building a system using a 2006.0 minimal install disk and following the (current) installation docs. I got to the part where it is suggested I upgrade portage. However, there is a blocker: (chroot) livecd / # emerge -p --oneshot portage These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild U ] sys-apps/sandbox-1.2.18.1-r2 [1.2.17] [ebuild U ] dev-python/pycrypto-2.0.1-r6 [2.0.1-r5] [ebuild U ] sys-apps/portage-2.1.4.4 [2.1.2.2] *** Portage will stop merging at this point and reload itself, then resume the merge. [ebuild U ] app-shells/bash-3.2_p33 [3.1_p17] USE=-plugins% [blocks B ] sys-apps/portage-2.1.4_rc1 (is blocking app-shells/bash-3.2_p33) (chroot) livecd / # emerge -pC portage These are the packages that would be unmerged: !!! 'sys-apps/portage' is part of your system profile. !!! Unmerging it may be damaging to your system. sys-apps/portage selected: 2.1.2.2 protected: none omitted: none 'Selected' packages are slated for removal. 'Protected' and 'omitted' packages will not be removed. I looked on the bugzilla but this bug is maked invalid. Could someone please suggest a next step? Thanks, Roger -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb
Hi again, In fact, just like Ricardo said, my congrats to a person who wants to learn Linux starting by Gentoo :-) But, back to the problem: Then, I insist at the point: As root, try to mount it manually and paste the output here: # mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom Certify that /mnt/cdrom exists. :-) []'s On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 8:23 AM, Norman Hakim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Norman, I am glad to know that you have chosen Gentoo as your first contact with GNU/Linux. First of all, congratulations! having a working Gentoo system without any previous Linux knowledge is a terrific start! I assumed that you knew what fstab is and how to modify that file because it is explained in the Gentoo Handbook, which is the reference to install this distribution. As explained in the Gentoo Handbook chapter 8 [1], you manually created a text file under /etc called fstab. This simple text file contains all the necessary information to, let's say auto-mount your different devices. This is my fstab, I post it here as an example: --- /dev/hdc1 /boot ext2defaults,noatime 1 2 /dev/hdc3 / reiserfsnoatime 0 1 /dev/hdc2 noneswapsw 0 0 /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom auto noauto,ro,user 0 0 /dev/floppy/fd0 /mnt/floppy autonoauto,rw,user 0 0 /dev/hda1 /mnt/RICvfat defaults,noatime,user 0 0 /dev/hdb2 /mnt/ZERO vfatdefaults,noatime,user 0 0 /dev/sda1 /mnt/USBautonoauto,rw,user # NOTE: The next line is critical for boot! proc/proc procdefaults 0 0 # glibc 2.2 and above expects tmpfs to be mounted at /dev/shm for # POSIX shared memory (shm_open, shm_unlink). # (tmpfs is a dynamically expandable/shrinkable ramdisk, and will # use almost no memory if not populated with files) shm /dev/shmtmpfs nodev,nosuid,noexec0 0 --- Usually, adding this /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom autonoauto,ro,user 0 0 should be enough to have your cd-rom/cd-rw/dvd working =). If that does not work, then let us know and see if we can figure out something else. If it does work, then great! go on enjoying Gentoo Linux. You learn a lot using Gentoo. Is the only distribution that gave m the chance to learn a lot about Linux. It is very stable and flexible, you always have control over your own system, that is very important. Regards, Ricardo. (Richard) [1] http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1chap=8 -- Cristian Gary, i've grouped it into plugdev. Richard, After i type this command /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom auto noauto,ro,user 0 0 it shows: bash: /dev/cdrom: Permission denied i've login using root account. i've right clicked at the cdrom to see the properties and under Permissions tab the Owner column stated unknown and i tried to change the Access column to Read and Write it popup The permisions could not be changed Regards, Norman -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list -- Eduardo Otubo Linux Registered User #424252 http://otubo.net |_|0|_| |_|_|0| |0|0|0| -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] portage update bloacked
On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 11:14:02 -0230 Roger Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, snip I looked on the bugzilla but this bug is maked invalid. Could someone please suggest a next step? Thanks, Roger emerge -O bash -- Ken69267 -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] portage update bloacked
Roger Mason writes: I'm building a system using a 2006.0 minimal install disk and following the (current) installation docs. I got to the part where it is suggested I upgrade portage. However, there is a blocker: (chroot) livecd / # emerge -p --oneshot portage These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild U ] sys-apps/sandbox-1.2.18.1-r2 [1.2.17] [ebuild U ] dev-python/pycrypto-2.0.1-r6 [2.0.1-r5] [ebuild U ] sys-apps/portage-2.1.4.4 [2.1.2.2] *** Portage will stop merging at this point and reload itself, then resume the merge. [ebuild U ] app-shells/bash-3.2_p33 [3.1_p17] USE=-plugins% [blocks B ] sys-apps/portage-2.1.4_rc1 (is blocking app-shells/bash-3.2_p33) (chroot) livecd / # emerge -pC portage Wh! Better not. These are the packages that would be unmerged: !!! 'sys-apps/portage' is part of your system profile. !!! Unmerging it may be damaging to your system. Right, you would be without portage, and emerge portage would not work. I'm not entirely sure what's going on, seems like the new portage needs a new bash, but your old portage will not work with this shell before upgrading, and the new bash will not work with the old portage. So you need to directly emerge a bash in-between. So, first try this: emerge -1a =app-shells/bash-3.2_p17-r1 You should be able to upgrade portage then fine: emerge -1a portage Then upgrade bash: emerge -ua bash (or emerge -ua world if you like) Wonko -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] weird gnome vol control behaviour
Hi all, Just got a new Dell Precision M6300, with Intel audio which identifies as: 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02) and uses the good ol' snd_hda_intel module (2.6.25-tuxonice-r4). /etc/modprobe.d/alsa is full of the usual guff: alias char-major-116 snd alias char-major-14 soundcore alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss alias /dev/mixer snd-mixer-oss alias /dev/dsp snd-pcm-oss alias /dev/midi snd-seq-oss options snd cards_limit=1 Now to the problems: The Gnome volume control app (gnome-volume-control) doesn't always show all mixers, nor does alsa restore the mixer settings the same. gnome-volume-control starts in various ways, the most common like this: 1: Master vol Front vol (muted) no PCM fader 2: Master vol Front vol (muted) PCM fader present The problem with the first instance, is that I use the PCM volume as a master because it's the only channel that controls both the headphones and the front speakers. If I remove and then add the applet, the correct faders usually (but not always) appear. The second problem I have, is that when changing the volume level using a stereo slider, the stereo lock keeps unlocking, and I end up changing one channel only. This can happen immediatly, so it is not possible to change both channels together, or only occasionally. And the third problem, is that the media volume hotkeys (those extra keys labelled mute, play, pause, etc) only seem to change the channel named Master, and not a channel of my choosing (Master is only good for the built-in speakers, not the headphone or digital outputs). I've played with various options in /etc/conf.d/alsasound and other misc things, but I can't seem to make a difference. I never had this problem with my last ~x86 laptop, but it had different hw. thanks for any tips! -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au Einstein argued that there must be simplified explanations of nature, because God is not capricious or arbitrary. No such faith comforts the software engineer. - Fred Brooks, Jr. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's
b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joerg Schilling ha scritto: But that's irrelevant to our discussion, because I do not want a web of pointers to copies. I want a single pointer to the (hopefully public) mailing list thread(s) where you discussed with Bloch and you were attacked by him. Where is this thread? Bloch did run these attacks in private mail. I'm sure you can post the mail exchange *in full* on your website, therefore. So -hey!- you can show the world how Bloch is the asshole you say he is. What's better than that to bring people on your side? If I was wrong, he could try to sue me. But then I would show the mail containing the insults to the judge. So he does not sue me ;-) Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's
Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wrote that the *thread* - digressing from useful discussion about software tools and into religion - was pissing me off. This is why I tried not to answer your first question. I know that this usually happens and try to avoid it. I asked because I wanted to hear your point of view and your reason (for changing license to CDDL). This is not very obvious when searching the web, and the reason given on your website (which I only found after asking the question) is somewhat vague. Why is the CDDL more free and why do you particularly like it? Well, the information is in the cdrtools FAQ and parts are in the Sun CDDL FAQ. When I searched the web I rather expected to find loads of mailing- list posts, blog entries and other articles and that half of them would announce what a rotter you are, the other half how poor old Joerg has been stitched up. But it is NOT so obvious from Googling. Charity is what you get for free, enviousness is something you need to earn ;-) You get this kind of enemies if you get a certain degree of familarity. As I told you already I might quite aggressively support your software if you would just make the effort to convince me. No one else on this list mistook my question for antagonism. I deliberately tried to be polite and tactful when asking you, and it did me no good at all! Frankly, therefore, I can see why everyone is against you if you insist on misconstruing an innocent question as an attack. If my example is anything to go by then I can only assume that the whole Debian and Bloch fiasco is the result of your own over-reaction (sorry to be so honest about how I see things!). This is obviously a missinterpretation of the facts. What people with english mothertonge believe is a courtesy, is usually seen as a underlying attack by Germans. Try to just be direct and there will be less missunderstanding. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's
Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am sorry I offended you, Joerg, but your are making it impossible to be your friend. You could learn to be direct and tell people what you mean. You asked in a missleading way on a list where hostile statements from other people have already been seen. As I said: less than 20% of human communication is done via words. If I did see you, I would have known whether your non-direct posting was meant to have an underlying hostile base or not. As I cannot see you, the only way to avoid missunderstanding is to use unambiguous words. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: CD/DVD burning tools?
Daniel Iliev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually you can figure out which are the most FAQ from this thread, but let me help you for the start. Please, publish detailed information for the following events in chronological order: Please explain why you don't read the FAQ? All your questions are answered in the FAQ. If you don't read the available information, it seems that you like to turn this thread into a thread where you spread your FUD. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] portage update bloacked
Kenneth Prugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: emerge -O bash and Alex Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: So, first try this: emerge -1a =app-shells/bash-3.2_p17-r1 Well, in the end I decided to play very straight and use a more up-to-date install CD. I'm currently installing from 2008.0_beta2, so far without any problems. Thanks for you help. Roger -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] portage update bloacked
On Monday 30 June 2008, Roger Mason wrote: Kenneth Prugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: emerge -O bash and Alex Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: So, first try this: emerge -1a =app-shells/bash-3.2_p17-r1 Well, in the end I decided to play very straight and use a more up-to-date install CD. I'm currently installing from 2008.0_beta2, so far without any problems. For the record, this turns out to be a fairly straightforward blocker. A recent version of portage uses new features in a recent bash, and Alex's suggestion will work just fine. I recently had to update 10+ old machines around this entirely trouble free. But using a more recent CD is probably the better idea, it's entirely possible to manoeuvre through two years of updates, but it's kinda pointless if you have a better base system at hand :-) -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb
2008/6/30 Norman Hakim [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Cristian Gary, i've grouped it into plugdev. Richard, After i type this command /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom auto noauto,ro,user 0 0 it shows: bash: /dev/cdrom: Permission denied Actually, the line /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom auto noauto,ro,user 0 0 is what you need to add to /etc/fstab to get your cdrom working. Sorry if I did not express myself correctly. i've login using root account. i've right clicked at the cdrom to see the properties and under Permissions tab the Owner column stated unknown and i tried to change the Access column to Read and Write it popup The permisions could not be changed Well, you can not change permissions to read and write, because the cdrom is a read-only media. Yes, I know you are able to burn a CD or a DVD, but it is not considered as writable media and it is mounted as a read-only file system. Just try by adding that line to your fstab, and if that does not work, then try to mount it manually as Eduardo Otubo says: # mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom And post the output here. Regards, Norman Regards, Richard. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] unstable glib pulled down, but why?
On Sunday 29 June 2008, b.n. wrote: By the way: I find the fact emerge -pv just fails in those cases extremly annoying. Shoudn't it report the error, skip offending packages but let me see what can be happily merged independently of that? Seems a reasonable question, but will be almost impossible to implement, as how would you define a package that can be happily merged independently of a blocking package? portage is software, it isn't intelligent so it doesn't know how to answer that. I admit it's annoying though. -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: CD/DVD burning tools?
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 6:15 PM, Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Daniel Iliev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually you can figure out which are the most FAQ from this thread, but let me help you for the start. Please, publish detailed information for the following events in chronological order: Please explain why you don't read the FAQ? All your questions are answered in the FAQ. If you don't read the available information, it seems that you like to turn this thread into a thread where you spread your FUD. The FAQ (I assume you're talking about http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/linux-dist.html ) only contain basic information on your side, almost without a single reference that shows me the actual full text of the email exchanges etc. supporting what you say. The FAQ is not in chronological order and it is even self-contradicting in chronological details (e.g. it starts with In autumn 2005 and early spring 2006, a group of Debian maintainers started to attack the cdrtools project. The attacks have been based on the fact that cdrtools was licensed under the GPL. then, in the final part of the document, you talk about the UTF story: In fact, this happened around y2004 [...] Now these people have been in trouble and needed an excuse for their behavior. -from this it seems implicit the problems started in 2004). Only explanation you give for all what was happening is a commercial-distributions-are-evil conspiracy theory (which maybe is true, but I am again waiting for evidence -the theory is quite weak, since forking an essential desktop software seems *much worse* than rewriting UTF8 support, and they could have inserted their unofficial patch into their packages even if you refused it upstream, if they felt their UTF8 patch was important). Anyway, I'm sure you can fix the FAQ and provide the full disclosed evidence, and everyone will be happier. m. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 6:08 PM, Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You could learn to be direct and tell people what you mean. You asked in a missleading way on a list where hostile statements from other people have already been seen. As I said: less than 20% of human communication is done via words. If I did see you, I would have known whether your non-direct posting was meant to have an underlying hostile base or not. As I cannot see you, the only way to avoid missunderstanding is to use unambiguous words. Tip: do not assume people on a mailing list have an underlying hostile base unless they are explicitly hostile. Otherwise you're just putting fuel on flames. m. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone else's Gentoo unruly lately?
On Sunday 29 June 2008, Philip Webb wrote: Doesn't that give you a huge world file ... No: of course, I 'emerge -1' when the pkg is not marked 'W/S' in my pkg.ref. Currently, 'world' lists 97 pkgs ; pkg.ref lists 513 pkgs. OK, that would work. I suppose I don't stand much chance of trying to convince you that portage does a damn fine job of automating this (quite extensive looking) tracking process and just correctly doing what you want anyway? :-) -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] unstable glib pulled down, but why?
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 5:57 PM, Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 29 June 2008, b.n. wrote: By the way: I find the fact emerge -pv just fails in those cases extremly annoying. Shoudn't it report the error, skip offending packages but let me see what can be happily merged independently of that? Seems a reasonable question, but will be almost impossible to implement, as how would you define a package that can be happily merged independently of a blocking package? portage is software, it isn't intelligent so it doesn't know how to answer that. I admit it's annoying though. The block will in many cases affect only a branch of the dependency tree. For example, in this case it is all blocked because glibmm wants a masked glib. Portage knows that glibmm wants the masked glib, so it knows that glibmm causes the trouble. So it could in principle give me what is to update except for glibmm and glib - and give me the error about those two. Am I missing something? m. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's
* Joerg Schilling ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [30.06.08 10:48]: The GPL however limits the usability of OpenSource as OSS and claims this is in order to save OSS. The GPL allows GPLd software to use any kind of software but disallows other OpenSource Software to use GPLd software. The main point is that this also disallows the usage within NonOSS software. That's what counts. Many OSS licenses do not care about later closed usage, and so one backdoor is closed, where GPL code may become unfree. For me, some of the so called OSS licenses undermine the freedom and I don't want them to be spread anymore. BSD is the one license where freedom goes the step to far and is suicide. Another big problem with the GPL is that the Free Software Foundation does not care about leality in own projects. There are at least two official FSF projects that did ilegally change the license of the code they use from other projects. libcdio did change code taken from cdrtools from GPLv2-only to GPLv2-or-any-later and vcdimager publishes code under GPL that never has been put under GPL by the author. That's not a problem of the GPL, but of the FSF. You can't blame the GPL for that. And I'm just curious: under which license was that code, which is now in vcdimager? And if I wrote software, I would not want people to reuse the codeit in closed source. So GPL is the right choice for me, because of the viral and supposed non-free issue. If you like this, you do not need to forbid to use the software for other OSS as done by the GPL. This is a all or nothing matter, or you end up categorizing every single license if it fits. overstatement And remember the GPL is a virus, that wants world domination. /overstatement But remember, if more people contibute to a software project, then the license is some essential part of the collaboration. Changing it requires the consensus of *all* people who *ever* contributed to it. You are obviously uninformed about legal facts. In Europe as well as in the USA, minor contributors are not given the right to decide on this. Well, in which crude copyright law is this stated? link please. I think it is more a problem of the enforcement, not the laws itself. If you do not fight for your right, you loose it. But I agree, that in our society, it is a matter of money. But that is a problem in society. So changing a license is always cumbersome. Then you should be against the GPL as many GPL people take BSD code and illegally add GPL tags. This may be tolerated by the authors but it is still forbidden by law. That is *again* not an issue of the GPL but of the authors, s.o., and the licences changers. It's a people problem. And an issue of the BSD license: I'm not quite sure, but can't you do anything with source code under BSD licences, as long this infamous copyright notice stays? What can happen to BSD code is shown with Kerberos, which ended up in Active Directory with some uncompatiple changes and some really lousy, security short commings. Jörg When it is free, than it shall be free from here to eternity. Sebastian -- Religion ist das Opium des Volkes. Karl Marx [EMAIL PROTECTED]@N GÜNTHER mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp3rhDg4HE56.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] unstable glib pulled down, but why?
On Monday 30 June 2008, brullo nulla wrote: Seems a reasonable question, but will be almost impossible to implement, as how would you define a package that can be happily merged independently of a blocking package? portage is software, it isn't intelligent so it doesn't know how to answer that. I admit it's annoying though. The block will in many cases affect only a branch of the dependency tree. For example, in this case it is all blocked because glibmm wants a masked glib. Portage knows that glibmm wants the masked glib, so it knows that glibmm causes the trouble. So it could in principle give me what is to update except for glibmm and glib - and give me the error about those two. Am I missing something? Probably not :-) But the portage code has been described as difficult to maintain, so I suppose the correct person to ask is Zac himself. Perhaps there are tricky edge cases? -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: Fwd: [gentoo-user] beagle and thunderbird
Dirk Uys schrieb: Should I unmask this unstable release to get the feature I am looking for? You will have to keyword the following: app-misc/beagle dev-libs/libbeagle dev-dotnet/dbus-sharp dev-dotnet/dbus-glib-sharp dev-dotnet/taglib-sharp OK, did that ... You will want to build Beagle with -eds otherwise that will add additional deps on evolution-data-server etc which you probably don't need since you use thunderbird. Also, don't build Nautilus or Yelp with the beagle USE flag, the stable versions (2.20) of both depend on beagle-0.2.18 Understood and set accordingly. If you face problems, feel free to mail this list or catch me (bheekling) or Arun (Ford_Prefect) on #gentoo-desktop @ FreeNode or #dashboard @ GimpNet (depending on whether the question is gentoo-specific or beagle-specifi ;) Should things behave as I expect them to behave? Beagle should behave, cedk (the maintainer) has kept the package in good shape :) Do I have to configure something somewhere? Probably not. Your profile will be migrated automatically. Once again, feel free to contact me or Arun if you face problems. This will help us as well since Arun has recently started pushing for getting Beagle stabilised with GNOME 2.22, and we would appreciate it if we could get some testers :) Yup, I face (a) problem(s): I keyworded the mentioned pkgs and tried to emerge beagle. I get access violations and libbeagle does not emerge successfully: --- ACCESS VIOLATION SUMMARY --- LOG FILE = /var/log/sandbox/sandbox-15448.log unlink:/usr/share/pygtk/2.0/codegen/argtypes.pyc open_wr: /usr/share/pygtk/2.0/codegen/argtypes.pyc unlink:/usr/share/pygtk/2.0/codegen/definitions.pyc open_wr: /usr/share/pygtk/2.0/codegen/definitions.pyc unlink:/usr/share/pygtk/2.0/codegen/defsparser.pyc open_wr: /usr/share/pygtk/2.0/codegen/defsparser.pyc unlink:/usr/share/pygtk/2.0/codegen/scmexpr.pyc open_wr: /usr/share/pygtk/2.0/codegen/scmexpr.pyc unlink:/usr/share/pygtk/2.0/codegen/override.pyc open_wr: /usr/share/pygtk/2.0/codegen/override.pyc unlink:/usr/share/pygtk/2.0/codegen/reversewrapper.pyc open_wr: /usr/share/pygtk/2.0/codegen/reversewrapper.pyc I don't want to delete them, I prefer to ask you first ;) Thanks for any help, Stefan -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: CD/DVD burning tools?
On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 09:46:41PM +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: I've just read your outdated page It is not outdated. Since more than a year, there is no visible development in cdrkit. Not visible to you. cdrkit-1.1.8 at http://cdrkit.org/releases/ is dated 25.05.2008. It would be prudent for them to bring their website up-to-date, though. So I asume that they did not add new bugs. Maybe you should assume less and research more. http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/linux-dist.html. Where you listed specific bugs, I see they don't affect me (and can't imagine they'd affect most users). Most of what you cite as bugs are just features they haven't implemented yet (and for all I know, they have since you wrote that page). This is obviously FUD: Just because you don't already know that you are affected does not mean that you are not affected. Of course not. Even the linux-kernel mailing-list hasn't seen your light, yet. It would be fun to see you in 5 years after your then current OS won't read your DVDs anymore because of the bugs in the filesystem structure. It would be fun if you would finally stop trolling forums, newsgroups and mailing-lists and keep your FUD and ego problems to yourself. You obviously take it as a personal insult that cdrtools was snubbed by some distributions and that somebody else is working on a replacement. Your constant ridicule and insults of a project you shouldn't care about at all is very telling, considering the alleged superiority of your own project. Thankfully, the GPL allows forks to eventually get rid of project leaders like you. -- P.S. der neue Automat da oben ist echt ein Scherzkeks. Will Noten annehmen hat aber keinen Schlitz dafür. probier doch mal, was zu singen, vielleicht hat er ja ein Mikrofon -- Matthias Dingeldein in de.etc.bahn.misc -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: CD/DVD burning tools?
Heiko Nock wrote: On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 09:46:41PM +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: I've just read your outdated page It is not outdated. Since more than a year, there is no visible development in cdrkit. Not visible to you. cdrkit-1.1.8 at http://cdrkit.org/releases/ is dated 25.05.2008. It would be prudent for them to bring their website up-to-date, though. So I asume that they did not add new bugs. Maybe you should assume less and research more. http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/linux-dist.html. Where you listed specific bugs, I see they don't affect me (and can't imagine they'd affect most users). Most of what you cite as bugs are just features they haven't implemented yet (and for all I know, they have since you wrote that page). This is obviously FUD: Just because you don't already know that you are affected does not mean that you are not affected. Of course not. Even the linux-kernel mailing-list hasn't seen your light, yet. It would be fun to see you in 5 years after your then current OS won't read your DVDs anymore because of the bugs in the filesystem structure. It would be fun if you would finally stop trolling forums, newsgroups and mailing-lists and keep your FUD and ego problems to yourself. You obviously take it as a personal insult that cdrtools was snubbed by some distributions and that somebody else is working on a replacement. Your constant ridicule and insults of a project you shouldn't care about at all is very telling, considering the alleged superiority of your own project. Thankfully, the GPL allows forks to eventually get rid of project leaders like you. I think it would be in everyone's best interests if we let this thread die now, I've been reading this thread for the past 2 or 3 days and frankly, it doesn't seem to be bringing anything of use to the ML. I don't want to get involved or takes anyone's side, but maybe the more mature readers can just let it go :) I doubt anyone will miss any benefit of this thread continuing. Just want to help keep this list with its feet on the ground :) -- Matt -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: CD/DVD burning tools?
Matt Harrison wrote: Heiko Nock wrote: On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 09:46:41PM +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: I've just read your outdated page It is not outdated. Since more than a year, there is no visible development in cdrkit. Not visible to you. cdrkit-1.1.8 at http://cdrkit.org/releases/ is dated 25.05.2008. It would be prudent for them to bring their website up-to-date, though. So I asume that they did not add new bugs. Maybe you should assume less and research more. http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/linux-dist.html. Where you listed specific bugs, I see they don't affect me (and can't imagine they'd affect most users). Most of what you cite as bugs are just features they haven't implemented yet (and for all I know, they have since you wrote that page). This is obviously FUD: Just because you don't already know that you are affected does not mean that you are not affected. Of course not. Even the linux-kernel mailing-list hasn't seen your light, yet. It would be fun to see you in 5 years after your then current OS won't read your DVDs anymore because of the bugs in the filesystem structure. It would be fun if you would finally stop trolling forums, newsgroups and mailing-lists and keep your FUD and ego problems to yourself. You obviously take it as a personal insult that cdrtools was snubbed by some distributions and that somebody else is working on a replacement. Your constant ridicule and insults of a project you shouldn't care about at all is very telling, considering the alleged superiority of your own project. Thankfully, the GPL allows forks to eventually get rid of project leaders like you. I think it would be in everyone's best interests if we let this thread die now, I've been reading this thread for the past 2 or 3 days and frankly, it doesn't seem to be bringing anything of use to the ML. I don't want to get involved or takes anyone's side, but maybe the more mature readers can just let it go :) I doubt anyone will miss any benefit of this thread continuing. Just want to help keep this list with its feet on the ground :) -- Matt Sorry, maybe my reply was actually destined for the CD ROM does not play audio CD's thread, but I think it goes for both. *hides under a stone* -- Matt -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] unstable glib pulled down, but why?
Alan McKinnon ha scritto: On Monday 30 June 2008, brullo nulla wrote: The block will in many cases affect only a branch of the dependency tree. For example, in this case it is all blocked because glibmm wants a masked glib. Portage knows that glibmm wants the masked glib, so it knows that glibmm causes the trouble. So it could in principle give me what is to update except for glibmm and glib - and give me the error about those two. Am I missing something? Probably not :-) But the portage code has been described as difficult to maintain, so I suppose the correct person to ask is Zac himself. Perhaps there are tricky edge cases? Maybe. It could be a toggable feature. It is often said the current state of Portage code is quite messy. I don't know, never read it. I'd like to contribute them a bit (I know some Python) but if experienced Portage developers are in fear of touching code, I wouldn't probably be of help. I wonder if Paludis does what I say. Could it be the day I switch... (If only there was a Python portage replacement... a Portage-ng project?) m. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: CD/DVD burning tools?
On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:01:59 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joerg Schilling) wrote: What people with english mothertonge believe is a courtesy, is usually seen as a underlying attack by Germans. Try to just be direct and there will be less missunderstanding. I'll be as direct as possible. Please, do the same. I've read your site but I could not find the info I'm looking for. Please, quote the following two lines and provide the relevant text under each of them. Line 1: Why do you think there is no problem to mix GPL with CDDL? Line 2: Full quotation of the lawyers' conclusion -- Best regards, Daniel -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb
On Monday 30 June 2008, Eduardo Otubo wrote: Hi again, In fact, just like Ricardo said, my congrats to a person who wants to learn Linux starting by Gentoo :-) But, back to the problem: Then, I insist at the point: As root, try to mount it manually and paste the output here: # mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom Certify that /mnt/cdrom exists. :-) Or: $ dmesg | grep CD and: $ ls -la /dev/cd* -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's
Joerg Schilling ha scritto: b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joerg Schilling ha scritto: But that's irrelevant to our discussion, because I do not want a web of pointers to copies. I want a single pointer to the (hopefully public) mailing list thread(s) where you discussed with Bloch and you were attacked by him. Where is this thread? Bloch did run these attacks in private mail. I'm sure you can post the mail exchange *in full* on your website, therefore. So -hey!- you can show the world how Bloch is the asshole you say he is. What's better than that to bring people on your side? If I was wrong, he could try to sue me. But then I would show the mail containing the insults to the judge. So he does not sue me ;-) And why can't you show these mails to us? Bloch could also well not give a f**k about your claims and maybe does not want to spend money etc. just to sue an upset programmer. I most probably wouldn't sue you, if I was him. You're tiptoeing around the main issue, that is: You bring no proof of your most important claims. You cannot expect widespread support of your cause without proof. If you want us on your side, Show. The. Evidence. m. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's
b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bloch could also well not give a f**k about your claims and maybe does not want to spend money etc. just to sue an upset programmer. I most probably wouldn't sue you, if I was him. You're tiptoeing around the main issue, that is: You bring no proof of your most important claims. You cannot expect widespread support of your cause without proof. If you want us on your side, Show. The. Evidence. I am not going to do illegal things, therefore I cannot show the evidence. If needed, I will show it a judge. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: CD/DVD burning tools?
Daniel Iliev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll be as direct as possible. Please, do the same. I've read your site but I could not find the info I'm looking for. Please, quote the following two lines and provide the relevant text under each of them. Line 1: Why do you think there is no problem to mix GPL with CDDL? Line 2: Full quotation of the lawyers' conclusion Why do you start a new round and why are you now asking for completely different things? Did you read the GPL to understand what the GPL allows? No non-GPL source is based on or derived from GPL code. If you claim that there is a problem, it would be _you_ who needs to prove this claim. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: CD/DVD burning tools?
Joerg Schilling ha scritto: Daniel Iliev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll be as direct as possible. Please, do the same. I've read your site but I could not find the info I'm looking for. Please, quote the following two lines and provide the relevant text under each of them. Line 1: Why do you think there is no problem to mix GPL with CDDL? Line 2: Full quotation of the lawyers' conclusion Why do you start a new round and why are you now asking for completely different things? He's not asking different things. Quotes from his mail: - When you changed the license. For what reason. Explain, please, why there is no problem to mix GPL with CDDL (for me personally it is the most interesting part) - The exact statement of the lawyers you consulted Now, if you want to be taken seriously, please answer to these questions. We have asked them several times. Why do you dance around them and never answer them? They should be very easy to answer, if your position is so solid. Did you read the GPL to understand what the GPL allows? No non-GPL source is based on or derived from GPL code. If you claim that there is a problem, it would be _you_ who needs to prove this claim. What do you not understand of the word explain, Joerg? m. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: CD/DVD burning tools?
Matt Harrison ha scritto: I think it would be in everyone's best interests if we let this thread die now, I've been reading this thread for the past 2 or 3 days and frankly, it doesn't seem to be bringing anything of use to the ML. I don't want to get involved or takes anyone's side, but maybe the more mature readers can just let it go :) I doubt anyone will miss any benefit of this thread continuing. I disagree. CD/DVD burning is an important piece of software for a free system. It has no little importance to understand what software of this kind can be distributed, and how, and if there are problems. Maybe the Gentoo mailing list is not the best place to discuss that, but since mr.Schilling is here, and the discussion started, better go on with it until a solution comes out. At least, next time this discussion comes up, we hope to provide a quick link and settle the question. So let's chase this thread to the end, once for all, if possible. m. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] speakers have no sound in Gentoo, but work in Ubuntu
Almost all snd-hda-intel sound cards need quirks added to /etc/modules.d/alsa Under the auto-generated configuration add: options snd-hda-intel model=dell-3stack Once that is done, save the file and run: update-modules Once that has completed (you may need to update-modules --force if it complains). Simply reboot the computer or restart the alsasound service. Note, some programs/applets using ALSA may crash if you unload/reload the sound card. - Brian On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 5:49 AM, Chuanwen Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, my laptop(Dell1400)'s speakers never work in Gentoo(headphones can work). But server days ago, I installed Ubuntu and I found that the speakers work(headphones also work)! I thought the alsa-driver could not drive my sound card properly before, and now, I think there must be some way since Ubuntu can work. # lspci | grep Audio 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02) / In Gentoo ***/ $ cat /proc/asound/version Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.16rc2 (Thu Jan 31 16:40:16 2008 UTC). / In Ubuntu ***/ $ cat /proc/asound/version Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.16. Compiled on Apr 21 2008 for kernel 2.6.24-16-generic (SMP). / In Gentoo ***/ # uname -a Linux wcw-laptop 2.6.25-tuxonice-r5 #1 SMP Mon Jun 30 15:13:46 CST 2008 x86_64 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T5470 @ 1.60GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux / In Ubuntu ***/ $ uname -a Linux wcw-laptop 2.6.24-16-generic #1 SMP Thu Apr 10 12:47:45 UTC 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux / In Gentoo ***/ # lsmod | grep snd Module Size Used by snd_seq_oss28992 0 snd_seq_device 6160 1 snd_seq_oss snd_seq_midi_event 6912 1 snd_seq_oss snd_seq47968 4 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event snd_pcm_oss37600 0 snd_mixer_oss 14592 1 snd_pcm_oss snd_hda_intel 405080 2 snd_pcm70984 2 snd_pcm_oss,snd_hda_intel snd_timer 19792 2 snd_seq,snd_pcm snd_page_alloc 8144 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm snd_hwdep 7816 1 snd_hda_intel snd50632 13 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_device,snd_seq,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_hwdep soundcore 6688 1 snd / In Ubuntu ***/ $ lsmod | grep snd snd_hda_intel 440408 3 snd_pcm_oss47648 0 snd_mixer_oss 20224 1 snd_pcm_oss snd_pcm92168 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm_oss snd_page_alloc 13200 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm snd_hwdep 12552 1 snd_hda_intel snd_seq_dummy 5764 0 snd_seq_oss38912 0 snd_seq_midi 10688 0 snd_rawmidi29856 1 snd_seq_midi snd_seq_midi_event 10112 2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi snd_seq63232 6 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event snd_timer 27912 2 snd_pcm,snd_seq snd_seq_device 10644 5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq snd70856 17 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_hwdep,snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device soundcore 10400 1 snd / In Gentoo ***/ # amixer Simple mixer control 'Master',0 Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Mono Limits: Playback 0 - 127 Mono: Playback 127 [100%] [0.00dB] [on] Simple mixer control 'PCM',0 Capabilities: pvolume Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 255 Mono: Front Left: Playback 255 [100%] [0.00dB] Front Right: Playback 255 [100%] [0.00dB] Simple mixer control 'Front',0 Capabilities: pvolume pswitch Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 127 Mono: Front Left: Playback 119 [94%] [-6.00dB] [on] Front Right: Playback 119 [94%] [-6.00dB] [on] Simple mixer control 'Surround',0 Capabilities: pvolume pswitch Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 127 Mono: Front Left: Playback 127 [100%] [0.00dB] [off] Front Right: Playback 127 [100%] [0.00dB] [off] Simple mixer control 'Center',0 Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Mono Limits: Playback 0 - 127 Mono: Playback 127 [100%] [0.00dB] [off] Simple mixer control 'LFE',0 Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Mono Limits: Playback 0 - 127 Mono: Playback 127 [100%] [0.00dB] [off] Simple mixer control 'Mic as Output',0 Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Mono Mono: Playback [off] Simple mixer control 'IEC958',0 Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Mono Mono: Playback [off] Simple mixer control 'Capture',0
Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's
Joerg Schilling ha scritto: b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bloch could also well not give a f**k about your claims and maybe does not want to spend money etc. just to sue an upset programmer. I most probably wouldn't sue you, if I was him. You're tiptoeing around the main issue, that is: You bring no proof of your most important claims. You cannot expect widespread support of your cause without proof. If you want us on your side, Show. The. Evidence. I am not going to do illegal things, therefore I cannot show the evidence. If needed, I will show it a judge. I didn't know that showing a mail *you* received is illegal. Maybe I can contact Bloch and ask him permission? m. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Microphone help
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 12:30:38PM +0100, Robert Bridge wrote: On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 06:24:44 -0400 Michael Pobega [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I bought a Creative NX Pro 2 webcam a few years back, and got it working with no problems in Gentoo using the gspcav1 drivers from Portage. Now, when I plug in the microphone (Which isn't a USB, but a regular microphone) nothing happens. I can't hear it through my speakers no matter how high I make the sound and I'm not sure if there are any drivers I need to load before it will work. Running `cat /proc/asound/cards` doesn't do much...It _should_ show my device, but in actuality shows: ackbar linux # cat /proc/asound/cards 0 [Intel ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel HDA Intel at 0xfeb38000 irq 16 So at the moment I'm pretty sure my microphone isn't being detected at all. Perhaps there is a kernel driver I missed (looked through two times) or something I need to emerge? If this driver is unusable in Gentoo, can someone recommend me a (relatively cheap) replacement? Because I'd like to be able to use it as soon as possible. Thank you. Have you checked that the microphone is unmuted? Does your card have multiple options for the microphone port (line-in as well as mic)? Have you adjusted the microphone volume? These are all issues I have had with the microphone on my webcam. The drivers which matter are the soundcard drivers if you are plugging the microphone into it, so I am 99.99% sure it will work with the current setup, once you find the correct combination of settings for the sound card. Good luck with it, Rob. No matter what I do the Mic doesn't seem to make any sound through my laptop's speakers...Any other ideas on what might be causing this problem? -- If programmers deserve to be rewarded for creating innovative programs, by the same token they deserve to be punished if they restrict the use of these programs. - Richard Stallman pgpqY2WGVEXKT.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's
b.n. wrote: I didn't know that showing a mail *you* received is illegal. Maybe I can contact Bloch and ask him permission? I think this thread has long since left the topic of Gentoo in the dust. If you cannot just accept that Joerg is not going to be cooperative on this issue and drop it, can you please at least take this private? --Mike -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] SOLVED [ was: codec read/write errors ]
On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 18:13:20 -0400 Willie Wong wrote: On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 01:02:39PM -0400, Penguin Lover David Relson squawked: Jun 29 12:53:02 fpc Failure writing to cs5535 codec Jun 29 12:53:02 fpc Failure reading codec reg 0x7a,Last value=0x7a80 I've got no idea why this started nor what software is responsible for generating these messages. Any thoughts? cs5535 seems to refer to the alsa audio driver the only thing software-wise that I can find with acronym fpc is the free pascal compiler... which I admit doesn't make much sense: why would a compiler care about writing to an audio driver? HTH, W Hi Willie, The box with the problem is named fpc which is why that string is in the logging record. The box is a fit-pc -- a nifty little low power gentoo machine I got a few months ago. The cs5535 problem went away after I upgraded its kernel from 2.6.20 to 2.6.24. I still don't know the actual cause of the problem and (since it's gone) have stopped worrying. Thanks for taking the time to search help. Regards, David -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Microphone help
Michael Pobega wrote: No matter what I do the Mic doesn't seem to make any sound through my laptop's speakers...Any other ideas on what might be causing this problem? For KDE I had to specify in KMix which device to capture sound. Perhaps you need to check such an option in your desktop of choice. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Microphone help
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 07:50:42PM -0400, sean wrote: Michael Pobega wrote: No matter what I do the Mic doesn't seem to make any sound through my laptop's speakers...Any other ideas on what might be causing this problem? For KDE I had to specify in KMix which device to capture sound. Perhaps you need to check such an option in your desktop of choice. I use wmii and I really don't want to have to merge qt just to test out my sound device...Any other suggestions? -- If programmers deserve to be rewarded for creating innovative programs, by the same token they deserve to be punished if they restrict the use of these programs. - Richard Stallman pgpLsbASd9uRm.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: CD/DVD burning tools?
On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 00:25:16 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joerg Schilling) wrote: Why do you start a new round and why are you now asking for completely different things? I'm not asking different things. The question about the licenses is the most important for me and I've asked that same question all the time. It's just that now for the first time you partially gave an answer. No non-GPL source is based on or derived from GPL code. OK. This is close to what I'm asking, but not exactly. Anyways, I'm glad to see you finally participating in this discussion. Let me make my question even more clear with an oversimplified example: You have written the program prog-a.c and published it on your site under the GNU GPL. I have _independently_ written the prog-b.c. Nex, I've found your program and liked it. I decide that your prog-a.c and my prog-b.c serve a common purpose and they complement one another. The question is if I can take your source (prog-a.c) from your site, put it into the same directory with my source (prog-b.c), make an archive of that directory and distribute the archive under CDDL? I think it is forbidden, because prog-a.c is published under the GNU GPL, which means you give me the right to distribute your work only under terms of the GNU GPL. Am I wrong? -- Best regards, Daniel -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: CD/DVD burning tools?
On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 01:13:51 +0200 b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matt Harrison ha scritto: I think it would be in everyone's best interests if we let this thread die now, I've been reading this thread for the past 2 or 3 days and frankly, it doesn't seem to be bringing anything of use to the ML. I don't want to get involved or takes anyone's side, but maybe the more mature readers can just let it go :) I doubt anyone will miss any benefit of this thread continuing. I disagree. CD/DVD burning is an important piece of software for a free system. It has no little importance to understand what software of this kind can be distributed, and how, and if there are problems. Maybe the Gentoo mailing list is not the best place to discuss that, but since mr.Schilling is here, and the discussion started, better go on with it until a solution comes out. At least, next time this discussion comes up, we hope to provide a quick link and settle the question. So let's chase this thread to the end, once for all, if possible. m. Absolutely. Otherwise we would have wasted out time for nothing and after a while it will start again. I believe it is best to go to the bottom of this discussion now, so this whole nightmare won't repeat itself again. -- Best regards, Daniel -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Vmware and = 2.6.25 kernels
I have noticed that many people seem to be having issues with vmware products. I believe that some of the issues may be related to some symbols being removed from the mainline kernel causing modules from vmware-modules to not load into the kernel. To fix it you need to enable UNUSED_SYMBOLS here 'kernel hacking - Enable unused/obsolete exported symbols'. Hopefully this helps if anyone wants to use 2.6.25.* kernels. -- Eric Phillips Got Root? -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Microphone help
Michael Pobega wrote: I use wmii and I really don't want to have to merge qt just to test out my sound device...Any other suggestions? alsamixer is the only other thing that comes to mind. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Microphone help
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 09:49:58PM -0400, sean wrote: Michael Pobega wrote: I use wmii and I really don't want to have to merge qt just to test out my sound device...Any other suggestions? alsamixer is the only other thing that comes to mind. Well I have everything turned to max and still no microphone sound. Or should I turn some things down in alsamixer? -- If programmers deserve to be rewarded for creating innovative programs, by the same token they deserve to be punished if they restrict the use of these programs. - Richard Stallman pgpq3V9EGW8de.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Microphone help
On Tue, Jul 01, 2008 at 05:23:20AM +0300, Daniel Iliev wrote: On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 22:10:44 -0400 Michael Pobega [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 09:49:58PM -0400, sean wrote: Michael Pobega wrote: I use wmii and I really don't want to have to merge qt just to test out my sound device...Any other suggestions? alsamixer is the only other thing that comes to mind. Well I have everything turned to max and still no microphone sound. Or should I turn some things down in alsamixer? Any chance you have forgotten some muted channels? (m is the key for mute on/off toggle in alsamixer) Jeez, how could I not notice something so obvious. Thanks. Now to find a good VoIP client...Can anyone help me out with that? Looking for something cross-platform (Windows/Linux) that can do webcam/audio support. I tried WengoPhone but the registration site seems to be down... -- If programmers deserve to be rewarded for creating innovative programs, by the same token they deserve to be punished if they restrict the use of these programs. - Richard Stallman pgpyVdR4F3smr.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Is the mailing list working?
Hi, I emailed this list quite a while ago about not getting emails from the list or any other Gentoo list. I wrote the very VERY slow to respond ATT crew about unblocking the emails. This was on about May 16 or so. Well, a little while ago I got my first set of emails. Wh Ooo. I have so missed getting my emails and keeping up with where Gentoo is going and what issues have cropped up with updates. Now, I am just hoping to get this email back and confirm that all is working again. Oh, filed a complaint with the FCC about not having DSL too. Sort of putting a fire under ATT. ;-) 24K dial-up sucks, BIG time. Picture downloading OOo, VERRRY slloowllyy. :-D Glad to be back. Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
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