Re: Drafts folder - what's the point?

2005-12-14 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello Neal, On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] NL Still won't use it. I never use Inbox - Known but have been staring at NL it for years. Just a matter of user choice. Me neither and choice is the most important thing. It seems that this request for a Draft folder (which

Re: Drafts folder - what's the point?

2005-12-14 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello Ian, On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] IAW The first thing is to either provide an alert or a Draft folder where IAW messages can be copied or moved AND that messages there can be further IAW edited. I was worried about that with the present version so I changed my

[The Bat! 3.63.09] Tab key does not work in Subject field

2005-12-14 Thread Volker Ahrendt
Hello, folks! I don't know, if it has been already mentioned here. If the cursor is in the Subject field, it does not jump into the message body by typing the tab key. Any confirmations? -- Cheers! VA - using The Bat! 3.63.09 (Beta) (Pro) on Windows XP Service Pack 2.

Re[4]: About TB folders

2005-12-14 Thread Paul Van Noord
12/14/2005 6:12 AM Hi Vili, On 12/13/2005 Vili wrote: V Ok, then I should campaign for a Hungarian, Russian, etc folder... V Because I have different emailing habits..(?) Draft messages are a part of everyone's use. Sorry you do not understand that. V Why do you MIX the waiting to send stuff

[The Bat! 3.63.09] Context menu (right-click) in To:, CC:, Subject: etc. fields does not work

2005-12-14 Thread Volker Ahrendt
Hello, folks! If the cursor is in To:, CC:, Subject: etc. fields, Context menu (right-click) does not work. Confirmations? -- Cheers! VA - using The Bat! 3.63.09 (Beta) (Pro) on Windows XP Service Pack 2. ’If you are in deep water, you should not hang

[The Bat! 3.63.09] Address picker only shows To: tab

2005-12-14 Thread Volker Ahrendt
Hello, folks! Address picker: Where have the CC: and BCC: tabs gone? There is only the To: tab. -- Cheers! VA - using The Bat! 3.63.09 (Beta) (Pro) on Windows XP Service Pack 2. ’If you are in deep water, you should not hang the head.‘

Re: [The Bat! 3.63.09] Tab key does not work in Subject field

2005-12-14 Thread Volker Ahrendt
[Reply to: Peter Hampf · 2005-12-14 · 12:19 h (CET)] Hello, Peter! If the cursor is in the Subject field, it does not jump into the message body by typing the tab key. That's a known one. The editor part is subject of change, which means that this will be fixed soon. OK, thanks! Then my

Re: [The Bat! 3.63.09] Tab key does not work in Subject field

2005-12-14 Thread Ethan J. Mings
Hello Volker, Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 5:41:41 AM, you wrote: VA If the cursor is in the Subject field, it does not jump into the VA message body by typing the tab key. VA Any confirmations? Confirmed. I rolled back one beta version due to the duplication mail messages and the cursor in

Re: [The Bat! 3.63.09] Context menu (right-click) in To:, CC:, Subject: etc. fields does not work

2005-12-14 Thread MAU
Hello Volker, If the cursor is in To:, CC:, Subject: etc. fields, Context menu (right-click) does not work. Confirmations? http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5443 -- Best regards, Please support the wish for a 'Draft' folder at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 Miguel A.

Re: [The Bat! 3.63.09] Address picker only shows To: tab

2005-12-14 Thread MAU
Hello Volker, Address picker: Where have the CC: and BCC: tabs gone? There is only the To: tab. http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5442 -- Best regards, Please support the wish for a 'Draft' folder at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain)

Re: About TB folders

2005-12-14 Thread MAU
Hello Vili, Why do you MIX the waiting to send stuff with waiting for editing stuff One type has the parking flag (hourglass), the other does not...) Are you sure? -- Best regards, Please support the wish for a 'Draft' folder at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 Miguel A.

Re[2]: About TB folders

2005-12-14 Thread Vili
Hello MAU, Why do you MIX the waiting to send stuff with waiting for editing stuff One type has the parking flag (hourglass), the other does not...) Are you sure? 100%... I am using 3.62.14. -- Vili The Bat 3.62.14 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2

Re[5]: About TB folders

2005-12-14 Thread Vili
Hello Paul, V Ok, then I should campaign for a Hungarian, Russian, etc folder... V Because I have different emailing habits..(?) Draft messages are a part of everyone's use. Sorry you do not understand that. No, it is not part of mine. Yes, I cannot understand that... Dont we have enough

Re: About TB folders

2005-12-14 Thread MAU
Hello Vili, Why do you MIX the waiting to send stuff with waiting for editing stuff One type has the parking flag (hourglass), the other does not...) Are you sure? 100%... I am using 3.62.14. As you can see in my signature, I'm using 3.62.14 now. Please see attached GIF from my Outbox

Re: Drafts folder - what's the point?

2005-12-14 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Ian! On Tuesday, December 13, 2005, 11:39 PM, you wrote: At the moment when you prepare a new message, the template is either based on the folder or address etc. Once that message has been saved, further editing does not see those template features change. To have the template features

Re: [The Bat! 3.63.09] Tab key does not work in Subject field

2005-12-14 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Volker! On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 4:41 AM, you wrote: I don't know, if it has been already mentioned here. If the cursor is in the Subject field, it does not jump into the message body by typing the tab key. Any confirmations? Confirmed. Mentioned here quite a few times. As

Re: [The Bat! 3.63.09] Context menu (right-click) in To:, CC:, Subject: etc. fields does not work

2005-12-14 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Volker! On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 5:38 AM, you wrote: If the cursor is in To:, CC:, Subject: etc. fields, Context menu (right-click) does not work. Confirmations? Again, this is one of a number of bugs in beta v. 3.63.09. We've been told the development team is working on the

Re: About TB folders

2005-12-14 Thread Dwight A Corrin
On Tuesday, December 13, 2005, 6:42:00 PM, Vili wrote: Why would anyone park a message in Outbox if not for later editing??? The real question is why would anyone have to have a message in preparation IN the outbox when it needed later editing? -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS

Re: [The Bat! 3.63.09] Context menu (right-click) in To:, CC:, Subject: etc. fields does not work

2005-12-14 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Mary! On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 7:29 AM, you wrote: Again, this is one of a number of bugs in beta v. 3.63.09. We've been told the development team is working on the editor function of the header fields. So no BT logs have been made of these several bugs, AFAIK. I should have

Re: About TB folders

2005-12-14 Thread Dwight A Corrin
On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 6:38:13 AM, Vili wrote: No, it is not part of mine. Yes, I cannot understand that... Dont we have enough default folders already? the point is that we have too few where you can edit messages residing there. there should be a place to put documents which are in

Re: About TB folders

2005-12-14 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Dwight! On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 8:02 AM, you wrote: ... Dont we have enough default folders already? the point is that we have too few where you can edit messages residing there. there should be a place to put documents which are in process where they are not mixed up with

Re: Drafts folder - what's the point?

2005-12-14 Thread Dwight A Corrin
On Tuesday, December 13, 2005, 5:14:22 PM, Paul Van Noord wrote: I agree. Regardless of the solution the problem is an exception that affects a small number of users who have chosen the challenge. I think that mis-characterizes the problem. It's not like one sets out to create a problem where

Re[2]: About TB folders

2005-12-14 Thread Vili
Hello MAU, Why do you MIX the waiting to send stuff with waiting for editing stuff One type has the parking flag (hourglass), the other does not...) Are you sure? 100%... I am using 3.62.14. As you can see in my signature, I'm using 3.62.14 now. Please see attached GIF from my Outbox

Re[2]: About TB folders

2005-12-14 Thread Vili
Hello Dwight, Why would anyone park a message in Outbox if not for later editing??? The real question is why would anyone have to have a message in preparation IN the outbox when it needed later editing? I am using TB! from v1.3x, support many customers, no one has problem with it... --

Re[2]: About TB folders

2005-12-14 Thread Vili
Hello Dwight, No, it is not part of mine. Yes, I cannot understand that... Dont we have enough default folders already? the point is that we have too few where you can edit messages residing there. there should be a place to put documents which are in process where they are not mixed up with

Re: About TB folders

2005-12-14 Thread Dwight A Corrin
On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 9:11:39 AM, Vili wrote: I am using TB! from v1.3x, support many customers, no one has problem with it... You aren't suggesting they should just stop developing the program since 1.3 works well are you? -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211

Re: About TB folders

2005-12-14 Thread Dwight A Corrin
On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 9:12:55 AM, Vili wrote: You have a flag to distinguish between them... please send screen shot illustrating this, because I can only find one flag to mark both -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 dcorrin at

Re: About TB folders

2005-12-14 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Vili! On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 9:12 AM, you wrote: No, it is not part of mine. Yes, I cannot understand that... Dont we have enough default folders already? the point is that we have too few where you can edit messages residing there. there should be a place to put documents

Re[2]: About TB folders

2005-12-14 Thread Vili
Hello Dwight, You have a flag to distinguish between them... please send screen shot illustrating this, because I can only find one flag to mark both THAT is the point!!! Mails that should be sent DOES NOT have a flag. Messages that are waiting for editing DO have a flag... -- Vili

Re[2]: About TB folders

2005-12-14 Thread Vili
Hello Dwight, I am using TB! from v1.3x, support many customers, no one has problem with it... You aren't suggesting they should just stop developing the program since 1.3 works well are you? This is what I am trying to say: I dont feel it as an improvement. I feel it like the new GUI:

Re[2]: About TB folders

2005-12-14 Thread Cees
Het was op woensdag 14 december 2005 om 16:25 uur dat jij iets schreef over 'About TB folders' : Hoi Mary,   ___\/___ o/\o   MB What will it hurt you, Vili, if I have a working Draft folder supplied MB to me by the developers? MB As has been noted by others, I too never use Inbox-Known.

Re[2]: About TB folders

2005-12-14 Thread Vili
Hello Mary, No, it is not part of mine. Yes, I cannot understand that... Dont we have enough default folders already? the point is that we have too few where you can edit messages residing there. there should be a place to put documents which are in process where they are not mixed up with

Re: 3.63.09: Multi-line headers in Editor

2005-12-14 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello MAU, On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 18:59:06 +0100 GMT (14/12/2005, 00:59 +0700 GMT), MAU wrote: M Please see attached. I've noticed when doing a reply to all with enough M addresses in the CC field. Really nice!! :) Yes, confirmed with 3.62.14 in the office. :-) M I went back to 3.62.14 just to

Re: About TB folders

2005-12-14 Thread MAU
Hello Vili, Why do you MIX the waiting to send stuff with waiting for editing stuff One type has the parking flag (hourglass), the other does not...) Are you sure? 100%... I am using 3.62.14. As you can see in my signature, I'm using 3.62.14 now. Please see attached GIF from my Outbox

Re: About TB folders

2005-12-14 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Vili! On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 9:29 AM, you wrote: I am using TB! from v1.3x, support many customers, no one has problem with it... You aren't suggesting they should just stop developing the program since 1.3 works well are you? This is what I am trying to say: I dont feel

Re: About TB folders

2005-12-14 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Vili! On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 9:34 AM, you wrote: You could treat your relationship with the Draft folder in the same way. Just don't use it. :) I just dont see the meaning to have it... That is why I fight against it. I'm hungry. You're not hungry. So, you oppose my being

Re: About TB folders

2005-12-14 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Vili! On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 9:34 AM, you wrote: I am constantly having to do work-arounds of the Outbox's behavior. And this has been true for me since my first version, v. 1.61. What will it hurt you, Vili, if I have a working Draft folder supplied to me by the developers?

Re[2]: About TB folders

2005-12-14 Thread Cees
Het was op woensdag 14 december 2005 om 16:42 uur dat jij iets schreef over 'About TB folders' : Hoi Mary, You could treat your relationship with the Draft folder in the same way. Just don't use it. :) I just dont see the meaning to have it... That is why I fight against it. MB I'm

Re: About TB folders

2005-12-14 Thread Dwight A Corrin
On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 9:34:12 AM, Vili wrote: You could treat your relationship with the Draft folder in the same way. Just don't use it. :) I just dont see the meaning to have it... That is why I fight against it. If each of us decided to fight against anything we didn't think

Re: About TB folders

2005-12-14 Thread Dwight A Corrin
On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 9:27:59 AM, Vili wrote: You have a flag to distinguish between them... please send screen shot illustrating this, because I can only find one flag to mark both THAT is the point!!! Mails that should be sent DOES NOT have a flag. Messages that are waiting

Re: About TB folders

2005-12-14 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Cees! On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 9:58 AM, you wrote: You could treat your relationship with the Draft folder in the same way. Just don't use it. :) I just dont see the meaning to have it... That is why I fight against it. MB I'm hungry. MB You're not hungry. MB So, you oppose

Re: About TB folders

2005-12-14 Thread MAU
Hello Vili, You have a flag to distinguish between them... please send screen shot illustrating this, because I can only find one flag to mark both THAT is the point!!! Mails that should be sent DOES NOT have a flag. Messages that are waiting for editing DO have a flag... Think about it

Re[2]: About TB folders

2005-12-14 Thread Cees
Het was op woensdag 14 december 2005 om 17:16 uur dat jij iets schreef over 'About TB folders' : Hoi MAU, THAT is the point!!! Mails that should be sent DOES NOT have a flag. Messages that are waiting for editing DO have a flag... M Think about it a bit more. The fact that you interpret

Re: Problem with account-log on the screen bottom (probably only POP3, not sure)

2005-12-14 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Владимир 'insider' Прохоров everyone else, on 13-Dez-2005 at 21:19 you (Владимир 'insider' Прохоров) wrote: 3. while the mails are downloaded, the open account log is redrawn out of the screen! reproduced in last some dozens of builds... Thank you. I've filed the bug report at

Re: About TB folders

2005-12-14 Thread MAU
Hello Cees, alright Mau, and I wannit NOW! ;) Drafts folders have been so well accepted by the general public that I have run out of stock, you'll have to wait a few days until I get some more from the factory ;-) Have you seen my signature? I haven't seen your supporting note yet ;-) --

Re: About TB folders

2005-12-14 Thread Mary Bull
Hello MAU! On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 10:38 AM, you wrote: alright Mau, and I wannit NOW! ;) Drafts folders have been so well accepted by the general public that I have run out of stock, you'll have to wait a few days until I get some more from the factory ;-) Thanks, St. Nicholas.

Re: Drafts folder - what's the point?

2005-12-14 Thread Charlene Ferrara
Hi MAU, Wednesday, December 14, 2005 you let us know -at least in parts- : This will save from accidentally sending them. You will have to explicitly unpark them to send them out. Rubbish. Now, there is one of my tigresses! ;-) With pleasure :) :purr: We all could benefit from a folder

Re: About TB folders

2005-12-14 Thread MAU
Hello Mary, Have you seen my signature? I haven't seen your supporting note yet ;-) Cees put a supporting note there last night--I asked him for it on TBOT. And how in h...eaven you expect me to know that Cees is Arkanoid? -- Best regards, Please support the wish for a 'Draft' folder at:

Re: Drafts folder - what's the point?

2005-12-14 Thread MAU
Hello Charlene, Help to protect us from the outbox protection and add your That's great!!! :)) -- Best regards, Please support the wish for a 'Draft' folder at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.63.09 (Beta) on Windows XP

Re: About TB folders

2005-12-14 Thread Gleason Pace
Dwight, If I have a mail I want to send Wednesday, which I finish on Monday, where do you suggest I put it when it is done? And it has to have a flag. How about a color group for pending messages, and a memo telling you when it should be sent? You could put it anywhere, even parked in the

Re: About TB folders

2005-12-14 Thread Mary Bull
Hello MAU! On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 10:53 AM, you wrote: Have you seen my signature? I haven't seen your supporting note yet ;-) Cees put a supporting note there last night--I asked him for it on TBOT. And how in h...eaven you expect me to know that Cees is Arkanoid? That's what

Re: About TB folders

2005-12-14 Thread MAU
Hello Mary, How I do wish that you had time or inclination to peek in on TBOT from time to time, Miguel. :) I'll propose you a deal. You recruit eleventeen hundred and twenty seven new supporters for Drafts folder and I'll join TBOT. Deal? -- Best regards, Please support the wish for a

Re: About TB folders

2005-12-14 Thread Mary Bull
Hello MAU! On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 11:42 AM, you wrote: How I do wish that you had time or inclination to peek in on TBOT from time to time, Miguel. :) I'll propose you a deal. You recruit eleventeen hundred and twenty seven new supporters for Drafts folder and I'll join TBOT.

Re: About TB folders

2005-12-14 Thread MAU
Hello Vili, I am constantly having to do work-arounds of the Outbox's behavior. And this has been true for me since my first version, v. 1.61. What will it hurt you, Vili, if I have a working Draft folder supplied to me by the developers? :)) Simpler is always better... You are right but I

Re: About TB folders

2005-12-14 Thread Mary Bull
Hello MAU! On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 11:54 AM, you wrote: I am constantly having to do work-arounds of the Outbox's behavior. And this has been true for me since my first version, v. 1.61. What will it hurt you, Vili, if I have a working Draft folder supplied to me by the developers?

Unkillable bat with no keyboard shortcuts

2005-12-14 Thread Ben Allen
Howdy Flying Rodent fans, Ok. I hope this isnt just me. Or there is another explanation other than my own stupidity. In .09 my keyboard shortcuts do not work. Not one of them. Then when I try to exit have to kill through task manager. Not a one off... put up with it last

Re: Drafts folder - what's the point?

2005-12-14 Thread Charlene Ferrara
Hi MAU, Wednesday, December 14, 2005 you let us know -at least in parts- : Help to protect us from the outbox protection and add your That's great!!! :)) I claim no copyright on this altered tagline of yours, you may cp it anytime :) -- Help to protect us from the outbox protection and

Re: About TB folders

2005-12-14 Thread Dwight A Corrin
On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 10:58:22 AM, Gleason Pace wrote: If I have a mail I want to send Wednesday, which I finish on Monday, where do you suggest I put it when it is done? And it has to have a flag. How about a color group for pending messages, and a memo telling you when it

Tiny problem opening PDF attachments

2005-12-14 Thread MAU
Hello all, It's not a real problem, that's why I say it's tiny, but it' bothering me not being able to understand what's happening. I've always had Adobe Reader 6.0 and Adobe Acrobat 4.0 installed in my system and PDF files where always opened from everywhere with Acrobat. I believe this was

Re: Drafts folder - what's the point?

2005-12-14 Thread MAU
Hello Charlene, I claim no copyright on this altered tagline of yours, you may cp it anytime :) I'll do for the second round if we don't win the first one ;-) -- Best regards, Please support the wish for a 'Draft' folder at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 Miguel A. Urech (El

Re: About TB folders

2005-12-14 Thread MAU
Hello Mary, In some real-world offices one has an Outbox and an Inbox on one's desk. Only in some? I'd say in most, if not all. -- Best regards, Please support the wish for a 'Draft' folder at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat!

Re: Unkillable bat with no keyboard shortcuts

2005-12-14 Thread MAU
Hello Ben, Ok. I hope this isnt just me. Or there is another explanation other than my own stupidity. In .09 my keyboard shortcuts do not work. Not one of them. Then when I try to exit have to kill through task manager. Not a one off... put up with it last night... but it

Re: Drafts folder - what's the point?

2005-12-14 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Ian! On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 1:14 PM, you wrote: MB I am talking about the macro %NOUSEPGP . MB In my Account Properties I have the box Sign when completed checked MB under Message-Editor settings. MB When I reopen a message in the Outbox for editing--or just to re-read MB it

Re: Drafts folder - what's the point?

2005-12-14 Thread Charlene Ferrara
Hi MAU, Wednesday, December 14, 2005 you let us know -at least in parts- : I'll do for the second round if we don't win the first one ;-) To my opinion they must react, it's us, the customers, who pay for their work. -- Help to protect us from the outbox protection and add your support note

Re: Drafts folder - what's the point?

2005-12-14 Thread Neal Laugman
Hi Ian I am not trying to squash the desire for a draft folder, but this issue you describe should be dealt with separately. The reason I say this is that if a Drafts folder is introduced because of the surge of those wanting it, chances are it will be cloned off the Outbox with the result

Outbox bug that over-rides macros for OpenPGP in Address Book templates

2005-12-14 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Everyone! Please support https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5453 It is about the long-standing bug in the Outbox behavior that causes it to over-ride Address Book template macros for OpenPGP and instead uses the setting in Account/Properties/Options/Message-editor. The bug happens

Re: About TB folders

2005-12-14 Thread Mary Bull
Hello MAU! On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 1:37 PM, you wrote: In some real-world offices one has an Outbox and an Inbox on one's desk. Only in some? I'd say in most, if not all. Was hedging my bets, not having been in a real-world office in quite some time. Haven't had one of my own since

The Bat! 3.63.11 (Beta) is now available

2005-12-14 Thread 9Val
Hello All, The Bat! 3.63.11 (Beta) is now available from: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ Here is a short list of changes: [-] (#0005396) Move up, Move down, Move in, Move out are not working correctly when moving folders across accounts [-] (#0005295) Button Token

Re: Tiny problem opening PDF attachments

2005-12-14 Thread Hendrik Oesterlin
MAU wrote on 15/12/2005 at 06:28:30 +1100 subject Tiny problem opening PDF attachments : The 'tiny' problem shows up when I open a PDF attachment in TB, they always open with Acrobat 4.0. No real problem, I can view PDFs, but I just don't understand why this is happening. I have almost the

Re: The Bat! 3.63.11 (Beta) is now available

2005-12-14 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 21:51:49, 9Val wrote: The Bat! 3.63.11 (Beta) is now available from: --- The Bat! --- Invalid pointer operation. --- OK --- --- The Bat!:

Re[2]: Unkillable bat with no keyboard shortcuts

2005-12-14 Thread Ben Allen
Howdy MAU, Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 7:39:43 PM, MAU wrotened: Ok. I hope this isnt just me. Or there is another explanation other than my own stupidity. In .09 my keyboard shortcuts do not work. Not one of them. Then when I try to exit have to kill through task manager.

Re[2]: About TB folders

2005-12-14 Thread Vili
Hello MAU, Why do you MIX the waiting to send stuff with waiting for editing stuff One type has the parking flag (hourglass), the other does not...) Are you sure? 100%... I am using 3.62.14. As you can see in my signature, I'm using 3.62.14 now. Please see attached GIF from my Outbox

Re[2]: About TB folders

2005-12-14 Thread Vili
Hello Mary, You could treat your relationship with the Draft folder in the same way. Just don't use it. :) I just dont see the meaning to have it... That is why I fight against it. I'm hungry. You're not hungry. So, you oppose my being fed because you don't see the significance of my

Re[2]: About TB folders

2005-12-14 Thread Vili
Hello MAU, There is no such group that Keep. So, each of it is Draft. Wrong! There is one of each. Come on, take your _guess_! You have a 50% chance of _guessing_ it right ;-) MAU: show me ANY reference in TB! for such a group as Keep... -- Vili

Re[2]: About TB folders

2005-12-14 Thread Vili
Hello Dwight, If you can articulate a reason why you need an Hungarian folder, and what it needs to do which you can't do with the present configuration and how it would make TB! a better program I would support your advocacy of it. What is that you cannot do NOW without the Drafts folder?

Re[2]: About TB folders

2005-12-14 Thread Vili
Hello Dwight, You have a flag to distinguish between them... please send screen shot illustrating this, because I can only find one flag to mark both THAT is the point!!! Mails that should be sent DOES NOT have a flag. Messages that are waiting for editing DO have a flag... If I have a

Re: The Bat! 3.63.11 (Beta) is now available

2005-12-14 Thread Charlene Ferrara
Hi 9Val, Wednesday, December 14, 2005 you let us know -at least in parts- : The Bat! 3.63.11 (Beta) is now available from: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ Here is a short list of bugs: [+] filtering broken: Jernej Simoncic's message wasn't filtered to the correct folder but remained

Re: The Bat! 3.63.11 (Beta) is now available

2005-12-14 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo 9Val, On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 22:51:49 +0200GMT (14-12-2005, 21:51 +0100, where I live), you wrote: 9 The Bat! 3.63.11 (Beta) is now available from: 9 http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ Well, it's running over here. The previous version didn't. -- Groetjes, Roelof Taglines: bumper stickers

Re[2]: About TB folders

2005-12-14 Thread Vili
Hello MAU, You have a flag to distinguish between them... please send screen shot illustrating this, because I can only find one flag to mark both THAT is the point!!! Mails that should be sent DOES NOT have a flag. Messages that are waiting for editing DO have a flag... Think about it

Re: The Bat! 3.63.11 (Beta) is now available

2005-12-14 Thread Gleason Pace
9Val, Hello All, The Bat! 3.63.11 (Beta) is now available from: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ Up and running well here. Here is a short list of changes: [-] (#0005396) Move up, Move down, Move in, Move out are not working correctly when moving folders across

Re[2]: About TB folders

2005-12-14 Thread Vili
Hello MAU, I am constantly having to do work-arounds of the Outbox's behavior. And this has been true for me since my first version, v. 1.61. What will it hurt you, Vili, if I have a working Draft folder supplied to me by the developers? :)) Simpler is always better... You are right but I

Re: The Bat! 3.63.11 (Beta) is now available

2005-12-14 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Jernej, On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 22:02:21 +0100GMT (14-12-2005, 22:02 +0100, where I live), you wrote: The Bat! 3.63.11 (Beta) is now available from: JS Invalid pointer operation. JS Are you planning to fix this at all? They did for me. I couldn't run the previous either, but this one works.

Re: The Bat! 3.63.11 (Beta) is now available

2005-12-14 Thread Mary Bull
Hello 9Val! On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 2:51 PM, you wrote: [-] (#0005207) Edit action, headers, network dialog and message finder might have wrong characters when using translations to Cyrillic alphabets. There are still a number of things

Re: Drafts folder - what's the point?

2005-12-14 Thread Dwight A Corrin
On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 1:42:43 PM, Mary Bull wrote: I can see the rush to a Drafts folder end up causing more problems than it will solve. I think the developers are in no rush. I think the desire of posters here and loggers of supporting notes to

Re: Tiny problem opening PDF attachments

2005-12-14 Thread Vili
Hello MAU, The 'tiny' problem shows up when I open a PDF attachment in TB, they always open with Acrobat 4.0. No real problem, I can view PDFs, but I just don't understand why this is happening. Maybe TB! call the show association of the extension? I mean like instead of calling open %1 where

Re: Outbox bug that over-rides macros for OpenPGP in Address Book templates

2005-12-14 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Mary, On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 14:17:25 -0600GMT (14-12-2005, 21:17 +0100, where I live), you wrote: MB It is about the long-standing bug in the Outbox behavior that causes MB it to over-ride Address Book template macros for OpenPGP and instead MB uses the setting in

Re: The Bat! 3.63.11 (Beta) is now available

2005-12-14 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 22:19:18, Roelof Otten wrote: They did for me. I couldn't run the previous either, but this one works. What's the difference between your and my config? (see sig) A lot - 8 POP3 accounts (7 active), 2 IMAP accounts, no OTFE. -- Jernej Simončič

Re: The Bat! 3.63.11 (Beta) is now available

2005-12-14 Thread Wolffe
Greetings BatPeople, Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 4:16:49 PM, Charlene wrote: C [+] manually forced refiltering of my inbox caused AV. Tested the re-filter of inbox and it got as far as reading first message before freezing. Had to 3-finger to abort. (I waited up to 5 minutes before aborting.)

Re: Drafts folder - what's the point?

2005-12-14 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Dwight! On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 3:35 PM, you wrote: I can see the rush to a Drafts folder end up causing more problems than it will solve. I think the developers are in no rush. I think the desire of posters here and loggers of supporting notes to

The Bat! 3.63.12 (Beta) is now available

2005-12-14 Thread 9Val
Hello All, The Bat! 3.63.12 (Beta) is now available from: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/beta/tbb36312.rar The only change is problem with filters. -- 9Val

Re: The Bat! 3.63.12 (Beta) is now available

2005-12-14 Thread Sean Rima
Hello 9Val, Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 10:03:43 PM, you wrote: Hello All, The Bat! 3.63.12 (Beta) is now available from: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/beta/tbb36312.rar The only change is problem with filters. What about the problems with SMIME? Sean --

Re: The Bat! 3.63.11 (Beta) is now available

2005-12-14 Thread Sean Rima
Hello 9Val, Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 8:51:49 PM, you wrote: Hello All, The Bat! 3.63.11 (Beta) is now available from: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ Here is a short list of changes: [-] (#0005396) Move up, Move down, Move in, Move out are not working correctly

Re: The Bat! 3.63.11 (Beta) is now available

2005-12-14 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Jernej, On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 22:29:49 +0100GMT (14-12-2005, 22:29 +0100, where I live), you wrote: What's the difference between your and my config? (see sig) JS A lot Yep, about everything, I see. ;-) -- Groetjes, Roelof Hey, I'm not paranoid! Which of my enemies told you this? The

Re: The Bat! 3.63.11 (Beta) is now available

2005-12-14 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Jernej, On 14-12-2005 22:29, you [JS] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: They did for me. I couldn't run the previous either, but this one works. What's the difference between your and my config? (see sig) JS A lot - 8 POP3 accounts (7 active), 2 IMAP accounts, no OTFE. Similar to my setup. I

Putting cursor in the right place when using reply template

2005-12-14 Thread Dwight A Corrin
In the last version, I reported that the cursor was ending up in the TO: pane, not after the quote as it should per my template and earlier behavior. I have now observed further that when a reply is created, in the current beta, that for an instant when the reply is drawn, it appears where it

Re: The Bat! 3.63.11 (Beta) is now available

2005-12-14 Thread Zygmunt Wereszczynski
On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, at 22:19:18 [UTC+0100] (Wednesday, December 14, 2005 22:19 my local time) Roelof Otten wrote: The Bat! 3.63.11 (Beta) is now available from: JS Invalid pointer operation. JS Are you planning to fix this at all? They did for me. I couldn't run the previous

Re: The Bat! 3.63.11 (Beta) is now available

2005-12-14 Thread Ethan J. Mings
Hello 9Val, Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 3:51:49 PM, you wrote: 9 The Bat! 3.63.11 (Beta) is now available from: 9 http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ The program loaded and received mail with no problems (using POP3). However, when sending mail, the program hangs. I'm using Norton Anti-virus

Re: Outbox bug that over-rides macros for OpenPGP in Address Book templates

2005-12-14 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Roelof! On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 3:29 PM, you wrote: Basically what you ask for is a complete new macro engine. That's no bugfix, but a new feature. Mind you, I don't mind such a new feature, after all I run into this myself every once in a while, but add it to the wishlist and

Re: The Bat! 3.63.11 (Beta) is now available

2005-12-14 Thread Wolffe
Greetings BatPeople, Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 4:40:29 PM, Charlene wrote: C Hi Wolffe, C Wednesday, December 14, 2005 C you let us know -at least in parts- : Tested the re-filter of inbox and it got as far as reading first message before freezing. Had to 3-finger to abort. (I waited up

Re: The Bat! 3.63.11 (Beta) is now available

2005-12-14 Thread Charlene Ferrara
Hi Wolffe, Wednesday, December 14, 2005 you let us know -at least in parts- : Tested the re-filter of inbox and it got as far as reading first message before freezing. Had to 3-finger to abort. (I waited up to 5 minutes before aborting.) And the filtering worked on your system? Mine was

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