the difference of approach that science takes
to truth and compared it to the approach of theology? Have you ever
considered what makes astrology different from astronomy as disciplines
of truth?
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Bill Taylor wrote:
Hey David Miller,
Is it still alright to discuss science
and philosophy on your forum?
Yes, Bill, it is still alright to discuss science and philosophy. We
are a diverse group of people here. Some are scientists and some are
philosophers, but some think science
? Is ignorance
bliss?
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learned? (John 7:14-15 KJV)
The bottom line? Whether we have knowledge or not, all things are for
Christ and to the glory of Christ.
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Yet Paul continued to be a Pharisee.
Judy wrote:
Not so ... after his conversion Paul was
no longer the Pharisee of the Pharisees
and one who persecuted the Church.
Check again, Judy. Paul certainly stopped persecuting the church, but
many Pharisees believed
Hi Judy.
We are not that far apart. As per Kevin's admonition, I'm not going to
wrangle or strive over words. I do appreciate your comments.
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a
depreciating of the very humanity he came to save?!
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Thank you, Kevin. You said it much better than I did. It is good to see that we are in agreement.
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anything to do with
Satan either, but that does not mean that Satan is an imaginary or bogus
person.
When the Bible teaches us that the stars and planets are for signs, what
do you think that means? Is there any possibility that this includes
astrology?
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trustworthy to others. Blaine, would you agree with this
approach?
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Blaine wrote:
You didn't finish the passage, which reads,
one Lord, one faith, one baptism. Eph 4:5
I am curious, in your opinion, does modern
Christianity fulfill this scripture?
At least as good as Mormonism, eh? LOL.
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like a Berean.
Judy wrote:
Yes but I don't know that being vegetarian is
doctrinally wrong, it's a matter of personal
conscience.
Your implication here is that Torah is doctrinally wrong! Surely you do
not mean to say that, do you?
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are embracing here.
[Subjectivism: a theory stating that people can only have knowledge of
what they experience directly.]
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As I pointed out in a response to David, Paul
was advised to go to the temple that time with
the four men who had taken a vow to keep the
zealous Jews from making a scene.
David Miller wrote:
Stop speculating. ... Your speculation makes Paul
sound deceptive and dishonest
communicator.
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of us concerning doing
all that we can do for the glory of God. You rarely toot your own horn,
Kevin, but this time you opened up a little and gave us a glimpse. I'm
glad you did. I just wanted to encourage you and express my admiration
for all that you do.
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I won't be coming to the party. My connection is
just too slow for that much fun.
Slow dial-up connections are fine for this chat. Don't let a slow
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If you are going to try it, it would be best to download and install the
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. 5:48)?
Didn't Paul call himself perfect in Phil. 3:15? Didn't Paul speak of us
being made free from sin in Romans 6?
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qualifiers, they know that I mean it. I sure hope God treats me this
way or I might always be wondering if he really is satisfied with how I
have done.
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, therefore, need Christ, but to suggest that
believers continue to sin would mean that Christ either is insufficient
to deal with the sin problem in our lives, or Christ himself is a
minister of sin. I would have problems with either of these
conclusions.
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and leave some on us? Are we
still fallen, dirty creatures after experiencing the grace of Christ?
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crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ
liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the
faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.
(Galatians 2:20 KJV)
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John wrote:
... David Miller. ... A works salvationist?
I don't think so.
No, I am not a works salvationist, but I can tell by the label that we
might have some discussing to do. I believe in Christian perfection
much like John Wesley did.
John wrote:
... actually all first year
a graph that might help showing the relationship, but no time to
try and post it right now.
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David Miller wrote:
I was simply asking you if you knew of any other
Greek scholar who would translate these verses
this way. I guess the answer is no?
John wrote:
Maybe you did not read my post? All first year Greek
grammars give present indicative active this application.
I read
. There is no weight of salvation upon my shoulders.
Jesus bore it all.
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: but if thou judge the law, thou art not a doer of the law, but
a judge. There is one lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy: who
art thou that judgest another? (James 4:11-12 KJV)
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1. I desire from you an acknowledgment that there
is no Greek scholar, not Mounce or anyone else, who
has translated 1 John 1:8 and Romans 3:23
as you have. Can you agree with me on this point?
John S. wrote:
Sure. While you are at it, take my clothes and shoes
will ask my
wife about this. She ought to know all my sins. :-)
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and brighter. It is not a growth
whereby we sin less and less as time goes on. Rather, it is a growth
that starts with our sinless condition, being found in Christ pure and
blameless. This growth is truly one of faith to faith and holiness unto
holiness.
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it.
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We tried to learn from the mistakes there and setup the no ad hominem
rule to curb the sectarianism that we experienced there. Tell Nelta
hello from me. :-) I wonder if she even remembers me, Gary Ottoson and
Glenn Tabor.
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too. :-) What do you think?
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points a finger at someone else, he is pointing three
fingers back at himself.
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those in China and regularly
travels there to help. He and those who go with him pay their own way,
and so 100% of the money he receives goes directly to families to whom
the Lord directs him to give.
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was delivered you. BEING THEN MADE
FREE FROM SIN, ye became the servants of righteousness. (Romans 6:14-18
KJV)
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, not even the Protestants. :-)
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misunderstood you. I hope you will
clarify yourself.
Bill wrote:
I will be happy to share more from this stream
of thought. Please just ask me.
I sure do appreciate your willingness to share.
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DaveH wrote:
How many subscribers do we have now?
26
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to the flesh, and when applied to humans, we
are talking about modifying behavior which emanates from the flesh. His
methods are completely useless for the spiritual man.
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. And they which
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beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone,
and the woman standing in the midst. (John 8:7-9 KJV)
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Lance, I don't understand your question. What is HK? Human Kind? If
so, then my answer is yes, man does have access to moral reality
irrespective of his social culture. Do you need me to present Bible
concerning this self evident elementary principle?
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to those who would
deny this reality. A lot of people think that because they sin,
everyone else sins. This is a faulty assumption. This is the
assumption of the modern self righteous who believe that they are
righteous even though they continue to sin.
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so
that we would become free of the power of sin and no longer sin (1 John
2:1).
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revelation that Jesus is the Christ.
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David Miller wrote:
Gnosticism isn't really identified prior to the second
century ... and 1 John was written at the end of the
second century.
Terry wrote:
aren't you saying end of the FIRST century?
Yes, that is what I meant. Gnosticism is not really identified prior to
the second
Bill wrote:
... I don't think Peter is referring to the spiritual man ...
Hey, Bill, I know that. I was trying to agree with you and add a little
bit more. Do I sound antagonistic in my posts? I'm not a very good
communicator.
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seems to be made up. Mine is likewise. I do
not agree with you and you do not agree with me.
Interesting. I'm not sure we are all that far apart. You seem to see
more disagreement between us than I do.
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Christian life, the best we can expect in Christ? If so, then I
certainly ought to start there in Romans.
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in
three persons in the Godhead. Why not argue from Scripture why you
think Jesus and the Father are not the same person? The Trinity
doctrine is what emerges when discussions like this take place.
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in the
movie The Passion. I started dying daily to the appetites of the flesh.
Not too long after that, the whole book of 1 John made perfect sense to
me. I understood it all in light of Romans 6, 7, 8.
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appreciate righteousness in others. I'm sure there
were many who considered Jesus to lack perfection when they saw what he
did in the Temple during the Passover season.
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David Miller that he is wrong about
this and why he is wrong.
Look, you never addressed my main question. I never objected to word
order at all, but you gave a long lecture about how word order does not
matter. Fine. No problem there. My problem was with how you perceived
pas to be modifying
. I pray it
helps you understand better where I am coming from.
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to answer every man. (Colossians 4:5-6 KJV)
Do you recognize any possibility for improvement here, or am I now
considered a reprobate fool for even speaking to you in this manner?
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blessing to you. If you or any other elders among us have any words for
me, whether public or private, I welcome your instruction to me. I am
truly sorry. I am believing in the Lord to change me and show me a more
perfect way.
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against my
Lord by saying that I have not been sanctified. I consider it 100% his
job to sanctify me, and you are claiming that He has failed to do that.
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right now is like he was when he was 5 years old. Do you understand
what I am trying to say?
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p.s. Judy, you might want to point out how terrible children can be... I
know, I have five children... I'm just talking about certain specific
David Miller wrote:
What have I said in this discussion that
constitutes sin in your eyes?
Please quote it for me.
John Smithson wrote:
It is very obvious that you have little or no
respect for me at all. In my mind, it came
across as something written out of a condescending
and was criticized sharply by Calvinists for
not repudiating it. A man is wise who does not repudiate something he
does not understand without valid authority and grounds to do so.
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sin? From my perspective, this defies
reality. This is pure fantasy.
Atonement means covering, but there are other ways to understand what
that means besides saying that God does not see your sin.
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like regulative belief, according
to your earlier post, would be those set of assumptions that are not
apparent to us and are unidentified. I suspect I don't understand the
term well, so perhaps you should explain it to us better.
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before
Him.
David Miller wrote:
Something like, God saves us after we have
done all that we can do.
DaveH wrote:
And, pray tell...what is wrong with that statement?
The problem is that this statement mixes law and grace in a
dysfunctional way. I would say that God saves us after we have
reasoned that nothing
could be everlasting that had not always existed. I don't understand
why you perceive it not to have been a serious question prior to Joseph
Smith. The question certainly was raised and discussed long before
Joseph Smith.
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not confirm the truth of a statement does not
mean that the statement is false.
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Bill wrote:
If I'm right -- and I think I am -- you will not
have any difficulty coming to the same conclusions
here as I have.
Hi Bill. You forgot to tell us what YOU think about the pre-existence
of the soul. :-)
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at the
moment of conception, when the egg and sperm unite. I have not found
much Biblical evidence to support this notion. Have you?
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p.s. I know, I know... I have broken the ad hominem rule too in this
post by talking about how others post. :-) There is no way to moderate
a list without speaking to the person, and so a moderator must be
allowed to do
Somebody sent the following joke to me. I thought I would pass it on.
If you are a conservative, you might like it, but if you are a liberal,
you probably won't like it. :-)
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A woman in a hot air
with this thought. Is he saying that the somehow Jesus
is in each person who was ever born since the time Jesus was born?
Somebody needs to interpret these words for me.
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I hope my comments have stimulated your thinking just a little bit. :-)
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?
I'm beginning to wonder when am I going to make an intellectual mistake,
and there you will be ready to pounce upon it and declare that it is not
possible for me to be saved or I would never say such a thing.
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David Miller wrote:
We also should not assume that all knowledge and
truth is meant to come through the Bible.
Lance wrote:
David, please say the same thing in different
words so as to clarify your meaning.
The Bible is true, but it is only one witness to truth. Knowledge and
truth can
to make such a statement as it is now.
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system that excludes the other is going to miss the
mark in many ways. We ought to study both the individual trees and the
forest as a whole and not claim that only one way to study the forest is
the right way and only way.
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David Miller wrote:
My viewpoint is that the flesh is flesh and
the spirit is spirit. The genes code only
for the physical and we inherit nothing
spiritual from our parents.
Judy wrote:
Your viewpoint is unscriptural DavidM because
the results of the curse can be detected
genetically
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much better job of pointing out the problems with Calvinism, so read his
works to understand the problems with it. If I get some time later, and
you seem interested, I will try to post some quotes from Calvin for you.
Peace be with you.
David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida.
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, or did I only muddy the waters more?
Peace be with you.
David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida.
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