Re: [Wikitech-l] Access from China

2013-09-23 Thread Ryan Lane
Ryu, As far as we've been told Wikipedia access to China is open, excluding a filter for specific pages, assuming you are using HTTP and not HTTPS. - Ryan On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 7:36 PM, Ryu Cheol rch...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, last week I had been in Nanjing of China for my

Re: [Wikitech-l] Access from China

2013-09-23 Thread Ryan Lane
On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 8:07 PM, Ryu Cheol rch...@gmail.com wrote: On iPad, I could not check it is http or https. You means that on mobile devices such as iPad, it does not redirect to https. I feel a bit, it is not consistent. In the region which https is not allowed, could we keep the

Re: [Wikitech-l] File cache + HTTPS question

2013-10-01 Thread Ryan Lane
On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 8:21 AM, Jeroen De Dauw jeroended...@gmail.comwrote: The file cache is barely maintained and I am not sure whether anyone is still relying on it. We should probably remove that feature entirely and instruct people to setup a real frontend cache instead. This

Re: [Wikitech-l] File cache + HTTPS question

2013-10-01 Thread Ryan Lane
On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Christopher Wilson gwsuper...@gmail.comwrote: I'm usually just an observer on these lists, but I'll weigh in as a user who runs MediaWiki on a shared host. The host *is* a VPS, but our wiki is used by the environmental department of a large international

Re: [Wikitech-l] File cache + HTTPS question

2013-10-01 Thread Ryan Lane
On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: Has anybody ever considered the possibility that maybe people don't know (or want to know) how to set up a caching proxy? One of the nice things about MediaWiki is that it's extraordinarily easy to set up. All you have to

Re: [Wikitech-l] File cache + HTTPS question

2013-10-01 Thread Ryan Lane
On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 2:53 PM, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Ryan Lane rlan...@gmail.com wrote: This is only true if you want almost no functionality of out MediaWiki and you want it to be very slow. MediaWiki is incredibly difficult to properly

Re: [Wikitech-l] File cache + HTTPS question

2013-10-01 Thread Ryan Lane
On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 3:00 PM, Jeroen De Dauw jeroended...@gmail.comwrote: Hey, This is only true if you want almost no functionality of out MediaWiki and you want it to be very slow. There are quite a few people running MW without a cache or other magic config and find it quite

Re: [Wikitech-l] Officially supported MediaWiki hosting service?

2013-10-02 Thread Ryan Lane
On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote: - Original Message - From: Ryan Lane rlan...@gmail.com On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 12:48 PM, C. Scott Ananian canan...@wikimedia.orgwrote: One intermediate position might be for WMF to distribute virtual

Re: [Wikitech-l] [IRC] wm-bot semi outage

2013-10-15 Thread Ryan Lane
On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 9:15 AM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, because of this bug: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=55690 wm-bot is unable to write logs to file storage. Unfortunatelly since 10 minutes ago, the mysql storage broke as well, I have no idea why but I

Re: [Wikitech-l] [IRC] wm-bot semi outage

2013-10-16 Thread Ryan Lane
On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 1:45 AM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: not that it would actually worked better :P I would be most happy to switch to local /dev/vdb storage which never had any problems, but for that wm-bot would need to be on own project That's not a good idea. Performance

Re: [Wikitech-l] Operations buy in on Architecture of mwlib Replacement

2013-11-14 Thread Ryan Lane
On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 8:13 AM, C. Scott Ananian canan...@wikimedia.orgwrote: And I'll add that there's another axis: gwicke (and others?) have been arguing for a broader collection of services architecture for mw. This would decouple some of the installability issues. Even if PDF rendering

Re: [Wikitech-l] OpenID deployment delayed until sometime in 2014

2013-11-27 Thread Ryan Lane
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 3:51 AM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.comwrote: According to the website of myopenid [1], they are closing down Februari 1. My hope was for the Wikimedia Foundation to come to the rescue and provide a non commercial alternative to what Google and Facebook

Re: [Wikitech-l] Making MediaWiki extensions installable via Composer

2013-12-08 Thread Ryan Lane
On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 12:06 AM, Jeroen De Dauw jeroended...@gmail.comwrote: Finding a way to separate MW the library from MW the application may be a solution to this conflict. I don't think this would be a trivial project, but it doesn't seem impossible either. That'd be fanatic if it

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wiki - Gerrit was Re: FWD: [Bug 58236] New: No longer allow gadgets to be turned on by default for all users on Wikimedia sites

2013-12-11 Thread Ryan Lane
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 3:21 PM, Jeroen De Dauw jeroended...@gmail.comwrote: Hey, Has there been thought on how GitHub can potentially help here? I'm not sure it fits the workflow well, though can make the following observations: Unless you're implying that github writes some code for us,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Mailing list etiquette and trolling

2013-12-11 Thread Ryan Lane
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 5:11 PM, Jeroen De Dauw jeroended...@gmail.comwrote: In recent months I've come across a few mails on this list that only contained accusations of trolling. Those are very much not constructive and only serve to antagonize. I know some forums that have an explicit rule

Re: [Wikitech-l] Reasonator use in Wikipedias

2014-01-21 Thread Ryan Lane
On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 7:17 AM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.comwrote: Hoi, At this moment Wikipedia red links provide no information whatsoever. This is not cool. In Wikidata we often have labels for the missing (=red link) articles. We can and do provide information from

Re: [Wikitech-l] wmf getting ready for puppet3, advice please

2014-01-28 Thread Ryan Lane
On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 2:41 AM, Ariel T. Glenn ar...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi puppet wranglers, We're trying to refactor the WMF puppet manifests to get rid of reliance on dynamic scope, since puppet 3 doesn't permit it. Until now we've done what is surely pretty standard pupet 2.x

Re: [Wikitech-l] Faidon Liambotis promoted to Principal Operations Engineer

2014-02-10 Thread Ryan Lane
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 5:48 AM, Mark Bergsma m...@wikimedia.org wrote: I'm pleased to announce that Faidon Liambotis has been promoted to Principal Operations Engineer. Definitely deserved and far too late in coming! Congrats Faidon, you do great work and you're an awesome person to work

Re: [Wikitech-l] deploying the most recent MediaWiki code: which branch?

2014-02-20 Thread Ryan Lane
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Sumana Harihareswara suma...@wikimedia.org wrote: Reuben Smith of wikiHow asked: We're having a hard time figuring out whether we should be basing our wikiHow code off Mediawiki's external releases (such as the latest 1.22.2), or off the branches that WMF

Re: [Wikitech-l] Drop support for PHP 5.3

2014-02-20 Thread Ryan Lane
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 3:22 PM, Trevor Parscal tpars...@wikimedia.orgwrote: Is that the rule then, we have to make MediaWiki work on anything Ubuntu still supports? Is there a rule? We should strongly consider ensuring that the latest stable releases of Ubuntu and probably RHEL (or maybe

Re: [Wikitech-l] Drop support for PHP 5.3

2014-02-20 Thread Ryan Lane
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 3:58 PM, James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.orgwrote: On 20 February 2014 15:34, Ryan Lane rlan...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 3:22 PM, Trevor Parscal tpars...@wikimedia.org wrote: Is that the rule then, we have to make MediaWiki work on anything

Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit Commit Wars

2014-03-06 Thread Ryan Lane
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: I think this entire thing was a big failure in basic software development and systems administration. If MobileFrontend is so tightly coupled with the desktop login form, that is a problem with MobileFrontend. In addition,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit Commit Wars

2014-03-07 Thread Ryan Lane
On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 5:39 PM, George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.com wrote: With all due respect; hell, yes, development comes in second to operational stability. This is not disrespecting development, which is

Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit Commit Wars

2014-03-08 Thread Ryan Lane
On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 7:04 PM, Ryan Lane rlan...@gmail.com wrote: Yes! This is a _good_ thing. Developers should feel responsible for what they build. It's shouldn't be operation's job to make sure the site is stable

Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit Commit Wars

2014-03-08 Thread Ryan Lane
On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Ryan Lane rlan...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 7:04 PM, Ryan Lane rlan...@gmail.com wrote: Yes! This is a _good_ thing. Developers should feel responsible for what they build

Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit Commit Wars

2014-03-08 Thread Ryan Lane
On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 6:21 PM, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 8:38 PM, Marc A. Pelletier m...@uberbox.org wrote: The answer is: no, obviously not. And for that reason the MariaDB developers are not allowed to simply push their latest code on our

Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit Commit Wars

2014-03-08 Thread Ryan Lane
On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 7:05 PM, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 9:48 PM, Ryan Lane rlan...@gmail.com wrote: Wikimedia uses deployment branches. Just because someone +2/merges into master doesn't mean it immediately shows up on Wikimedia servers. It needs

Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit Commit Wars

2014-03-08 Thread Ryan Lane
On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 9:34 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Chad wrote: On Mar 8, 2014 1:42 PM, Brandon Harris bhar...@wikimedia.org wrote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Badger New rule: calling badger is synonymous with asking for the moderation bit for yourself. Fine, but

Re: [Wikitech-l] wikitech downtime Tuesday, April 1st 9AM PST (16:00UTC)

2014-03-26 Thread Ryan Lane
On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 1:40 PM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: Will the new wiki be faster? Will it not log me off randomly even if I check remember me. Will it serve coffee to new users? Do you still have an issue where it logs you off randomly? That was very briefly an issue that I

Re: [Wikitech-l] Abandoning -1 code reviews automatically?

2014-04-14 Thread Ryan Lane
On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 1:37 PM, Marcin Cieslak sa...@saper.info wrote: 2) https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/11562/ My favourite -1 here is needs rebase. Well, obviously trivial rebases should be done automatically by the system (which OpenStack's system does), and changes that need a

Re: [Wikitech-l] Affiliation in username

2014-05-09 Thread Ryan Lane
On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Jared Zimmerman jared.zimmer...@wikimedia.org wrote: Affiliations change, and user names are quite difficult to change, this sounds like something that would be good for a structured profile, not for a user name. Indeed, or in the user preferences so that it

Re: [Wikitech-l] Login to Wikimedia Phabricator with a GitHub/Google/etc account?

2014-05-15 Thread Ryan Lane
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 5:20 PM, Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org wrote: This is a casual request for comments about the use of 3rd party authentication providers for our future Wikimedia Phabricator instance. Wikimedia Phabricator is expected to replace Bugzilla, Gerrit and many other tools,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Login to Wikimedia Phabricator with a GitHub/Google/etc account?

2014-05-16 Thread Ryan Lane
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 7:36 PM, Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 2:20 PM, Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org wrote: However, Phabricator can support authentication using 3rd party providers like GitHub, Google, etc. You can get an idea at

Re: [Wikitech-l] translatewiki.net compromised: server reinstalled

2014-07-10 Thread Ryan Lane
On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 10:09 AM, Siebrand Mazeland siebr...@kitano.nl wrote: This is an email to shell account holders on translatewiki.net and to wikitech-l, so that you are informed. Today at 08:10 UTC Niklas noticed that the translatewiki.net server had been compromised. We saw some

Re: [Wikitech-l] News about stolen Internet credentials; reducing Wikimedia reliance on usernames and passwords

2014-08-07 Thread Ryan Lane
On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 6:58 AM, Casey Brown li...@caseybrown.org wrote: On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 8:10 AM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: A lot of the solutions normally bandied about involve things like two-factor identification, which has the additional password coming through a

Re: [Wikitech-l] News about stolen Internet credentials; reducing Wikimedia reliance on usernames and passwords

2014-08-07 Thread Ryan Lane
On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 11:27 AM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: There are good reasons people would target checkuser accounts, WMF staff email accounts, and other accounts that have access to lots of private info like functionary email accounts and accounts with access to restricted IRC

Re: [Wikitech-l] planned move to phabricator

2014-08-24 Thread Ryan Lane
On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 8:06 PM, svetlana svetl...@fastmail.com.au wrote: Hi all. I am reading https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/Migration and it says: A review of our project management tools [1] was started, including an assessment of our needs and requirements, and a discussion

Re: [Wikitech-l] HTTPS Wikipedia search for Firefox - update?

2012-12-28 Thread Ryan Lane
On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 9:37 AM, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: Hi, Mozilla are asking for update about bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=758857 Can anybody help? There's no change. We're still waiting on MediaWiki changes to occur before we switch

Re: [Wikitech-l] HTTPS Wikipedia search for Firefox - update?

2012-12-29 Thread Ryan Lane
On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 10:58 PM, Jeremy Baron jer...@tuxmachine.comwrote: On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 6:52 AM, bawolff bawolff...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 1:50 PM, Ryan Lane rlan...@gmail.com wrote: There's no change. We're still waiting on MediaWiki changes to occur before

Re: [Wikitech-l] monitoring / control system for bots

2013-01-06 Thread Ryan Lane
On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 6:48 AM, Daniel Schwen li...@schwen.de wrote: What we rather need is monitoring for the instances. My bots have not been the problem, so far the source for unreliable bot operation has been the underlying infrastructure. Be it the moving of home dirs and the read-only

Re: [Wikitech-l] How to contribute to sysadmin / devops

2013-01-08 Thread Ryan Lane
On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 9:42 AM, Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org wrote: Re https://www.mediawiki.org/**wiki/Sysadmin_hubhttps://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Sysadmin_hub On 01/08/2013 02:52 AM, Bryan Tong Minh wrote: That page is for MediaWiki sysadmins, not for Wikimedia sysadmins. Yes, I know,

Re: [Wikitech-l] How to contribute to sysadmin / devops

2013-01-09 Thread Ryan Lane
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Leslie Carr lc...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 12:02 PM, Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org wrote: Can we define ONE task a good sysadmin could take here and now? Sure, if you want to copy the information from this ticket - that's a good task

Re: [Wikitech-l] creating the context-aware sidebar

2013-01-21 Thread Ryan Lane
On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 6:07 AM, Yury Katkov katkov.ju...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys! I'm searching the good sidebar extension for MediaWiki project, can anyone recommend something nice? I've tried SidebarEx, NavBlocks, CustomSidebar https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:DynamicSidebar

Re: [Wikitech-l] Integrating MediaWiki into MS SBS

2013-02-02 Thread Ryan Lane
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 6:29 PM, Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote: - Original Message - From: Dan Andreescu dandree...@wikimedia.org The following manual seems to be the most actively maintained guide for getting MediaWiki installed on Windows:

Re: [Wikitech-l] Documentation talk, the second

2013-02-06 Thread Ryan Lane
On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote: Well, we enabled transwiki importing on labsconsole from wikitech (see https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Import). I don't see any

Re: [Wikitech-l] Documentation talk, the second

2013-02-07 Thread Ryan Lane
On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 2:29 AM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: Everyone knows your phone is more powerful than half of production cluster, but now back to the business We should make a structure for this new documentation base we are going to create, I think beside of categories, they

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bootstrap based theme for Mediawiki

2013-02-09 Thread Ryan Lane
Patrick had also shown this to me a while back and I've made a demo for a replacement skin on labsconsole using a modified version of it: https://labsconsole-test.wmflabs.org/wiki/Main_Page The strapping skin itself has a few bugs that need to be fixed. I've fixed them and will be working on

Re: [Wikitech-l] Developer Hub update

2013-02-09 Thread Ryan Lane
On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: Are you going to reference software that has nothing to do with mediawiki on mediawiki.org as well? if not, then keep the hub we have on meta... I thought it was decided quite a long time ago that meta was for discussing the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Maria DB

2013-02-13 Thread Ryan Lane
As far as I know we're using a custom mariadb version in production, not the ubuntu version. It would be ideal to use the same versions for everything, but just switching out to MariaDB isn't going to solve anything for us. Also, we're not using MariaDB everywhere in production. We're using a mix

Re: [Wikitech-l] Engineering Announcement: Marc-Andre Pelletier joins TechOps

2013-02-16 Thread Ryan Lane
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 11:25 PM, Ct Woo ct...@wikimedia.org wrote: All, I am pleased to announce Marc-Andre will be joining us as aTechnical Operations Engineer (contractor) starting this February 25, 2013. His primary focus will be to build up the Wikimedia Labs infrastructure and to

[Wikitech-l] Sending 200s for empty user pages of valid users

2013-02-21 Thread Ryan Lane
See: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45255 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/50305/ Just in case this is controversial, I thought I'd bring this topic up on the list. We currently send 404s for empty user pages, even for valid users. It would be ideal to use user page urls as

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikitech-l Digest, Vol 115, Issue 93

2013-02-21 Thread Ryan Lane
Our bugs are at https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org. Was there anything specific you'd like to help with? On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Kancer Ezeroğlu ezeroglukan...@gmail.comwrote: Hi everybody, I want to help about wikimedia's bugs. How can I get wikimedia's bugs ? Can somebody please help

[Wikitech-l] Bringing OpenID as a provider to Wikimedia projects

2013-02-22 Thread Ryan Lane
I believe the OpenID extension is matured to the point where it's usable on the Wikimedia projects, acting as an OpenID provider. The extension still needs review and such, but I think it's a good time to discuss how we'd like to implement this on the projects. My preference for this would be to

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bringing OpenID as a provider to Wikimedia projects

2013-02-22 Thread Ryan Lane
On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Greg Grossmeier g...@wikimedia.orgwrote: quote name=maiki date=2013-02-22 time=12:17:25 -0800 Is this up for discussion, or are we at the point of planning deployment? It isn't apparent to me why any WMF site would be an OpenID provider. To phrase this

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bringing OpenID as a provider to Wikimedia projects

2013-02-22 Thread Ryan Lane
On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 1:03 PM, James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.orgwrote: On 22 February 2013 12:54, Yuri Astrakhan yuriastrak...@gmail.com wrote: Do you intend to cover both SUL and legacy accounts? I don't think it's worth anyone's time working out a way of supporting non-global

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bringing OpenID as a provider to Wikimedia projects

2013-02-22 Thread Ryan Lane
On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote: - Original Message - From: Ryan Lane rlan...@gmail.com I believe the OpenID extension is matured to the point where it's usable on the Wikimedia projects, acting as an OpenID provider. The extension still

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bringing OpenID as a provider to Wikimedia projects

2013-02-22 Thread Ryan Lane
On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 2:30 PM, Thomas Gries m...@tgries.de wrote: Ryan wrote: Any OpenID consumer, whether WMF or not, would be able to use us as an authentication provider. There is currently no option, but an option (to restrict serving OpenIDs to certain consumer domains eg. only

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bringing OpenID as a provider to Wikimedia projects

2013-02-22 Thread Ryan Lane
On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 3:19 PM, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: To be absolutely clear, this does *not* solve the problem of bots/tools authenticating on behalf of a user. All it does is solve the problem of where a bot/tool authenticates under its own user account and, out of pure

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bringing OpenID as a provider to Wikimedia projects

2013-02-22 Thread Ryan Lane
On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: In cases where a tool is keeping an authentication database, and is not acting on behalf of a user, then OpenID would let the tool eliminate its username/password store. This is exactly what I'm saying. It doesn't

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Merging wikitech and labsconsole on Thursday at 1 PM PDT

2013-02-26 Thread Ryan Lane
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 2:43 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Ryan Lane wrote: At 1 PM I'll do the following: 1. Mark wikitech as read-only 2. Add wikitech-old.wikimedia.org, pointing at the old wiki 3. Change wikitech.wikimedia.org to labsconsole's IP 4. Import all

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Labs-l] Merging wikitech and labsconsole on Thursday at 1 PM PDT

2013-02-26 Thread Ryan Lane
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: the labsconsole will remain operational? or it will redirect? labsconsole will redirect. - Ryan ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] Nagios is dead, long live icinga!

2013-02-26 Thread Ryan Lane
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 5:32 PM, Leslie Carr lc...@wikimedia.org wrote: As some may have noticed, we are phasing out nagios in favor of icinga ( https://www.icinga.org/ ) nagios.wikimedia.org now redirects to icinga.wikimedia.org ! Please let us know if you notice anything that has broken or

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Merging wikitech and labsconsole on Thursday at 1 PM PDT

2013-02-27 Thread Ryan Lane
On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 6:25 AM, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: Is using rewrite a good idea, or would it be better to just redirect so that there's only one actual URI? (I don't have an answer to that, just asking.) Rewrite is doing a redirect, not pass-through. - Ryan

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Merging wikitech and labsconsole on Thursday at 1 PM PDT

2013-02-27 Thread Ryan Lane
On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 5:20 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.comwrote: Does all of the content include archive (deleted pages)? Pages that are already deleted will not be migrated. All other pages will be, including ones that were marked as to be deleted will be migrated. - Ryan

[Wikitech-l] wikitech migration still ongoing

2013-03-01 Thread Ryan Lane
Seems my previous updates on this may not have made it to this list, so here's another update: The wikitech dump was rather large and had a lot of revisions (60k revisions), even though it has a fairly small number of pages (1,600 pages). The dump was about 6.1GB. The vast majority of these

Re: [Wikitech-l] wikitech migration still ongoing

2013-03-01 Thread Ryan Lane
Migration is done and morebots is logging again. I still need to re-log past actions, but I'll do that soon. Let me know if you see any migration issues. On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 12:08 AM, Ryan Lane rlan...@gmail.com wrote: Seems my previous updates on this may not have made it to this list, so

[Wikitech-l] OpenID as a provider project page

2013-03-01 Thread Ryan Lane
I wrote up some quick documentation on OpenID as a provider. Feel free to modify it, especially for inaccurately used terminology. It's also likely a good time to start bikeshed discussions on the urls, as I think it'll end up taking a while to lock that down.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Editing wikipedia using google, openID or facebook

2013-03-07 Thread Ryan Lane
On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Antoine Musso hashar+...@free.fr wrote: We still have to figure out which account will be used, the URL, whether we want a dedicated wiki etc... Those discussions are unrelated to

[Wikitech-l] Extension:OpenID 3.00 - Security Release

2013-03-07 Thread Ryan Lane
. This is a breaking change, as it changes all user identity URLs. Providers are urged to upgrade and notify users, or to disable user renaming. Respectfully, Ryan Lane https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/52722 Commit: f4abe8649c6c37074b5091748d9e2d6e9ed452f2

Re: [Wikitech-l] Extension:OpenID 3.00 - Security Release

2013-03-08 Thread Ryan Lane
On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 1:07 AM, Yuvi Panda yuvipa...@gmail.com wrote: Was this the last blocker to getting the extension deployed? On wikitech the blockers were the switch of the wiki name (from labsconsole to wikitech) and this. There's still some issues that need to be worked out for

Re: [Wikitech-l] Github/Gerrit mirroring

2013-03-09 Thread Ryan Lane
On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 12:15 PM, Yuri Astrakhan yuriastrak...@gmail.comwrote: Should we re-start the lets migrate to github discussion? No. - Ryan ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] Github/Gerrit mirroring

2013-03-10 Thread Ryan Lane
On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 12:55 AM, Waldir Pimenta wal...@email.com wrote: On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 8:39 PM, Ryan Lane rlan...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 12:15 PM, Yuri Astrakhan yuriastrak...@gmail.com wrote: Should we re-start the lets migrate to github discussion

[Wikitech-l] New unified SSL certificate deployed

2013-03-12 Thread Ryan Lane
We just finished deploying a new SSL certificate to the sites. Now all *.m and *. certificates are included in a single certificate, except mediawiki.org. Unfortunately we somehow forgot mediawiki.org when we ordered the updated cert. We'll be replacing this soon with another cert that had

Re: [Wikitech-l] New unified SSL certificate deployed

2013-03-12 Thread Ryan Lane
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 4:47 PM, Brion Vibber br...@pobox.com wrote: Thanks guys! -- brion Don't thank us too quick. We needed to revert this for mobile. Seems *. m.wikipedia.org was also missing from the cert. Needless to say I'll be writing a script that can be run against a cert to ensure

Re: [Wikitech-l] New unified SSL certificate deployed

2013-03-12 Thread Ryan Lane
in the unified cert, but that's going to bloat it). On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 9:18 PM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: On 12 March 2013 21:15, Ryan Lane rlan...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 4:47 PM, Brion Vibber br...@pobox.com wrote: Thanks guys! -- brion Don't

Re: [Wikitech-l] New unified SSL certificate deployed

2013-03-12 Thread Ryan Lane
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 9:45 PM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, that's the wiki I mean. And I can see your point about all those sub-subdomains; there must be a stack of them. The domain name was changed fairly recently and we got the bad cert messages then, and added our

Re: [Wikitech-l] New unified SSL certificate deployed

2013-03-12 Thread Ryan Lane
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 10:06 PM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: Well, if you need to rename the wiki again, a bit of notice would be appreciated; it was rather a shock when folks went to log in using bookmarks, only to find they no longer worked. We still haven't finished cleaning up

Re: [Wikitech-l] New unified SSL certificate (round two) to be deployed this afternoon

2013-03-13 Thread Ryan Lane
This is finished. On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Rob Halsell rhals...@wikimedia.orgwrote: We will be pushing the new unified certificate this afternoon @ 2PM PDT. This new certificate will include all our primary top level domains, as well as the mobile subdomains. Unfortunately, those

Re: [Wikitech-l] New unified SSL certificate deployed

2013-03-13 Thread Ryan Lane
On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 8:12 PM, Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote: - Original Message - From: Ryan Lane rlan...@gmail.com We just finished deploying a new SSL certificate to the sites. Now all *.m and *. certificates are included in a single certificate, except mediawiki.org

[Wikitech-l] Fwd: New unified SSL certificate deployed

2013-03-13 Thread Ryan Lane
On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 9:24 PM, Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote: - Original Message - From: Ryan Lane rlan...@gmail.com Hey, Ryan; did you see, perhaps on outages-discussion, the after action report from Microsoft about how their Azure SSL cert expiration screwup

Re: [Wikitech-l] Github/Gerrit mirroring

2013-03-15 Thread Ryan Lane
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:02 PM, Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org wrote: This thread has probably reached that limit of fresh arguments. Can we continue with proper documentation, reporting and patches? We care about GitHub and we believe it is an important source of potential contributors. This

Re: [Wikitech-l] [RFC] performance standards for new mediawiki features

2013-03-26 Thread Ryan Lane
On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 3:58 PM, Asher Feldman afeld...@wikimedia.orgwrote: There are all good points, and we certainly do need better tooling for individual developers. There are a lot of things a developer can do on just a laptop in terms of profiling code, that if done consistently, could

Re: [Wikitech-l] Proposal: Wikitech contributors

2013-04-03 Thread Ryan Lane
On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 3:30 AM, Ori Livneh o...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Tuesday, April 2, 2013 at 5:45 AM, Quim Gil wrote: I have been drafting a proposal to attract new contributors, help them settle in, and connect them to interesting tasks. It turns out that many of these problems

Re: [Wikitech-l] Proposal: Wikitech contributors

2013-04-03 Thread Ryan Lane
On Apr 3, 2013, at 8:29 AM, Antoine Musso hashar+...@free.fr wrote: Le 03/04/13 11:18, Ryan Lane a écrit : One example of how semantics could improve mediawiki.org is the extension matrix https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_Matrix. Can't we get Semantic extensions deployed

Re: [Wikitech-l] Proposal: Wikitech contributors

2013-04-03 Thread Ryan Lane
On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Ori Livneh o...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Wednesday, April 3, 2013 at 2:18 AM, Ryan Lane wrote: Spend some time editing a well designed Semantically enabled wiki. Web Platform is a good example: http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/Main_Page . There's a high

Re: [Wikitech-l] Proposal: Wikitech contributors

2013-04-03 Thread Ryan Lane
On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 5:01 PM, Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.comwrote: Quim, I think even this first iteration is problematic on a bunch of fronts. 3 months as a first iteration to build several major features as the basic proof of concept should be a sign that you're biting off too

Re: [Wikitech-l] Proposal: Wikitech contributors

2013-04-03 Thread Ryan Lane
On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 5:19 PM, Isarra Yos zhoris...@gmail.com wrote: On 03/04/13 20:48, Matthew Flaschen wrote: On 04/03/2013 03:30 AM, Ori Livneh wrote: That seems wrong. Of the two, MediaWiki.org is clearly the more successful wiki. It is larger by all measures, and draws a wide pool of

Re: [Wikitech-l] Proposal: Wikitech contributors

2013-04-03 Thread Ryan Lane
On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 5:31 PM, Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.comwrote: Let me put it a simpler way: I don't support moving to Semantic MediaWiki, which to me as user seems like a somewhat arcane and bloated piece of software that will require me and lots of people to relearn how we

Re: [Wikitech-l] Proposal: Wikitech contributors

2013-04-03 Thread Ryan Lane
On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 6:06 PM, Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Ryan Lane rlan...@gmail.com wrote: If you are a content organizer that modifies templates and likes to make structures easier for for readers and editors, SMW actually makes

Re: [Wikitech-l] Proposal: Wikitech contributors

2013-04-04 Thread Ryan Lane
On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 2:15 AM, Jeroen De Dauw jeroended...@gmail.comwrote: Hey, Out of curiosity, what's the largest wiki to use Semantic MediaWiki? That depends on how you defined largest. If you want a list of public wikis (which of course is not complete) by property value count, then

Re: [Wikitech-l] Clicktracking being phased out

2013-04-12 Thread Ryan Lane
On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 9:46 AM, Yury Katkov katkov.ju...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone! Aren't you too quick about this phasing out thing? First of all the term is pretty weird - if the current maintainer don't want to support the extension anymore we use [[Template:Unmaintained_extension]]

Re: [Wikitech-l] Labs Shell Access Requests, 39 pending

2013-04-16 Thread Ryan Lane
On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 10:20 AM, rogerchris...@gmail.com wrote: Could someone with authority please process the 8 days long backlog at Labs Shell Access Requests?:

Re: [Wikitech-l] Labs Shell Access Requests, 39 pending

2013-04-16 Thread Ryan Lane
On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 12:48 PM, Thehelpfulone thehelpfulonew...@gmail.com wrote: On 16 April 2013 19:45, Ryan Lane rlan...@gmail.com wrote: We have a lot of these coming in as of late (which is awesome!), so we're not doing a great job keeping up. Anyone want to help out

Re: [Wikitech-l] Labs Shell Access Requests, 39 pending

2013-04-16 Thread Ryan Lane
On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 2:21 PM, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: What exactly is Labs Shell Access? Come to think of it, I really don't have much of an idea of what Labs is in the first place. I assumed it was some sort of testing environment, but I've never actually been on it. Labs

Re: [Wikitech-l] Countdown to SSL for all sessions?

2013-04-30 Thread Ryan Lane
On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Matthew Walker mwal...@wikimedia.orgwrote: We enabled it for about an hour previously (before reverting due to the centralauth bug), and the change was barely noticeable in ganglia. Do we have numbers on what this did to the number of active editors

Re: [Wikitech-l] New extension: Special:ExtensionStatus (opinions?)

2013-05-13 Thread Ryan Lane
On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 11:26 PM, Moriel Schottlender mor...@gmail.comwrote: Hello everyone, I'd like to get your opinions and critique on my very first MediaWiki extension, which, I hope, will be helpful to other developers. I noticed that there's no easy way of seeing if extensions that

Re: [Wikitech-l] migrating hooks doc to doxygen?

2013-06-04 Thread Ryan Lane
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 1:40 PM, Brad Jorsch bjor...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 12:00 PM, Antoine Musso hashar+...@free.fr wrote: Since we introduced hooks in MediaWiki, the documentation has been

[Wikitech-l] Needless forks with incompatible license changes

2013-06-05 Thread Ryan Lane
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 7:56 PM, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: AuthPlugin never used to handle this kind of stuff. The only extensions that use AuthPlugin are those that provide *supplemental* authentication services. Notice that E:LDAPAuthentication uses AuthPlugin, but

Re: [Wikitech-l] HTTPS Questions

2013-06-06 Thread Ryan Lane
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 6:56 PM, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: Quick two questions: 1) Was that bug with E:CentralAuth that prevented us from turning on $wgSecureLogin ever fixed? If so, can we attempt another deployment? 2) I noticed something in the signpost: Walsh told the

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Labs-l] [labs] bots project is turning to testing environment of tools project

2013-06-15 Thread Ryan Lane
On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 4:51 AM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: Most of you already know that, but I will repeat it once more, so that everyone who is using bots project is aware of that. Since tool labs (project tools on wikimedia labs) is now serving the purpose which bots project on

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