Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: King Tony's Pedigree

2014-10-12 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
From what Maharishi said, anyone who attains CC is no longer going to be reincarnated, so, thus far, 17 people who report CC in the first study that Fred Travis did, and the (last I heard) 51 new people who report CC in the new study he's doing, are no longer sufficiently ignorant to reincarna

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Fall Of Baghdad

2014-10-12 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
Shrug. We have no idea what American Indian civilization would be like 500+ years later. And certainly, ISIS is a primitive, violent group of thugs by modern standards. My only point is that you don't have to go very far back to see the same kind of behavior from the West, so the sense of

[FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30

2014-10-13 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
If that were true, they wouldn't be leveraging Maharishi's name for the publicity. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : An organizer asked me to post this. www.30thNovember.com http://www.30thNovember.com Be curious. Be practical. Be yourself. One's perspecti

[FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30

2014-10-13 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
But one man's cultish nonsense is another man's profoundly spiritual insight... People assume that MMY could never do wrong, and so they always went with his program/project/practice _du jour_ Others assume that when MMY came up something they perceived as off-the-wall, it meant he had

[FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30

2014-10-13 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
The Meditation Trust also offers TM teacher training these days, and implies that they are doing the work that MMY authorized them to do, despite him rescinding that authorization quite publicly and in completely explicit terms. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In Fa

[FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30

2014-10-13 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
What's interesting about your Sexy Sadie comment is that a while back you commented that you were quite amazed that any woman was claiming to have sex with MMY as your personal observation was that he had no sexuality to speak of. Once it became clear that you could get specific people mad by

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Duped into thinking you could fly?

2014-10-13 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
When I learned the TM-Sidhis in 1984, I had to write out, in long-hand, a paragraph dictated to me over the phone from the TM-SIdhis course office, saying that I understood that the TM-Sidhis were for the development of consciousness, and that I understood that no-one was guaranteeing I was goin

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30

2014-10-13 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
It's the same crew that accepts as valid the claim that MMY appeared to the woman in her dreams and begged her to publish her "tell all" book. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Like I said before, it is Jerry Jarvis' stamp of approval that is giving this event legitimacy

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: About Nov. 30

2014-10-13 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
over the past 9 years, the DLF claims that they have taught 500,000 kids to meditate for free. In 2012, all of 8,000 adults in the USA learned TM, paying some portion of the full fee while with kids, the lion's share of the fee went straight to the TM teachers. It's not a 50-50 thing as with

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 50,000 new Flyers now

2014-10-15 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
You may be correct, but Raja Luis seems to be sincere and what little fact-checking I can do seems to corroborate other claims he has made. For example, he says that the Peruvian government wants to extend the pilot project, where 30,000 students practice TM, to 250,000 and have existing schoo

Re: [FairfieldLife] Chopra got it right!

2014-10-19 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
MMY said that the ethical, religious, exercise-full life-style of a law-abiding householder in any culture was enough to be counted as simultaneously practicing the other limbs of Yoga that weren't directly addressed by TM practice. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Too bad

[FairfieldLife] Re: ISIS Now Has an Air Force

2014-10-19 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
Aren't most of those so old that they are as dangerous for the handlers as for the intended targets? L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Good points Willy. Over 5000 bombs and artillery shells with Sarin and Mustard gas found - so far. Now owned by ISIS - the compassionat

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Free Excerpt

2014-10-19 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
Are you suggesting that people on this forum didn't already realize all these things? L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : A little excerpt from a recent TM Free post: Fairfield residents have been dragging their feet around suicide prevention for years. This is due not

[FairfieldLife] Re: ISIS Now Has an Air Force

2014-10-19 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
And now has to deal with them. As I said, the aged WMDs are at least as dangerous to the handlers as to the intended targets. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Go read the NYT article. It is a very good piece of writing that discloses the testimony of numerous soldier

[FairfieldLife] Re: Consciousness Is The Ultimate Reality, was Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-22 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
The way Maharishi explained the "illusion of Maya" is rather different than what a lot of people understand. Consciousness is not an illusion, nor is what most people call "reality." The illusion is that there is a fundamental difference between them. This is the "veil of maya": a th

[FairfieldLife] Re: Consciousness Is The Ultimate Reality, was Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-22 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
So you're saying that an enlightened person loses the ability to descriminate between a flower and a duck? Or loses the ability to name things because they see the fundamental unity in the diversity? L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.

Re: [FairfieldLife] FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-23 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
Oh wow. That makes me happy. I sent her a query via the only email address I have and never got a response. If she responds further, please say hi. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Why? Its enough for me to know your

[FairfieldLife] Re: Consciousness Is The Ultimate Reality, was Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-23 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
Well, maybe, maybe not. Pure consciousness during TM seems to be very closely aligned with EEG of the preliminary aspect of creativity found in non-meditation research on creativity, and the EEG found in really-long-term TMers (especially those participating in the Invincible America course)

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-23 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
The late Skip Alexander, who used to head the Psychology Dept at MUM, co-edited a book that examined post-maslow development. He wrote the chapter on Vedic Psychology, and prominent mainstream-psychologists wrote chapters on post-Maslow, -post-Piagetian, etc., psychology. _Higher Stages

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-23 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
A slight nit: in the 40 years that Benson has been publishing his book he never, not even once, published a head-to-head study of TM vs his "Relaxation Response." In fact, the criticisms that were leveled against Keith Wallace's first study apply equally well to Benson's research. And

[FairfieldLife] Re: Celebrating Enlightened Leadership

2014-10-26 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
Any more info on that? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Dilma Rousseff the TM practicing President has been re-elected! great news for projects in Brasil, including one she personally has helped to go forward.

[FairfieldLife] Re: More illegal aliens needed!

2014-10-26 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
You're aware that the rate of illegal voting is down in the double digits for teh entire country, right? In other words, there's less than 100 cases (probably far less) o f illegal voting documented. This could sway an incredibly close eletion at the national level, but would require

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-27 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
Schneider is certainly a true believer, but why do you call him a "jackass?" L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : The fact that they had that jackass Bob Schneider, a cardiologist, doing a lecture on Vedic psychiatry which was primarily more Movement bullshit of think sweet tho

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and HIV

2014-10-30 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
Unless, of course, it works, and works well. The webinar is supposed to be talking about new research. Apparently it has been accepted for publication but not yet published. I thought that many journals put an embargo on such discussions once teh research is accepted until such time as it is

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and HIV

2014-10-30 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
Eh, so I watched the webinar. Nothing new was discussed. Apparently the traditional embargo about research that is about to be published holds. Perhaps they scheduled things before they realized that, or perhaps some other issue dictated the timing. As it is, we really only learned tha

[FairfieldLife] Re: How Maharishi got HIS title

2014-10-31 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
And Maharishi has said that in response to reporters asking: "it was a title someone used about me and eventually it became kind of a [nick]name." And yet, for many people, it seems an appropriate title, as well. Anoop Chandola: "What about this 'maharishi' who is with the Beatles? Is he

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's declining brain functioning

2014-10-31 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
The logical conclusion is that, by Maharishi's theory, Maharishi wasn't perfectly enlightened. Was there still question in your mind about this? I heard him talk about how the consciousness of the world wouldn't support the most refined states of consciousness and automatically assumed tha

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's declining brain functioning

2014-10-31 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
Who ever said that Maharishi's consciousness was functioning independently from his brain? Maharishi made it clear ovr and over again that the state of a person's physiology dictated what kind of consciousness they had. As MMY's health declined towards the in, he had, as you pointed out, a

[FairfieldLife] Re: When meditation goes bad

2014-10-31 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
I've chatted via email with the woman. A very nice person, trying to make sense of things. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : The Dark Night Project at Brown University has been investigating some common psychological issues that can arise with many people who set out on t

Re: [FairfieldLife] The More Proper Pronunciation of Maharishi

2014-11-02 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
Professor Anoop Chandola: "What about that 'maharishi' who is with the Beatles? Is he legitimate?" Swami Shantananda Saraswati, hand-picked successor to Swami Brahmanda Saraswati (first Shankaracharya of Jyotirmath in 165 years): "Let me put it to you this way: he would be my first choice as

Re: [FairfieldLife] early book on Maharishi

2014-11-02 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
http://blog.sfusd.edu/2012/09/a-quiet-transformation.html http://blog.sfusd.edu/2012/09/a-quiet-transformation.html According to James Dierke, the transformation in his school, where "Most of the students in our school have a family member who has been shot, who did the shooting, or who saw

Re: [FairfieldLife] early book on Maharishi

2014-11-02 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
I was responding to this: The only meaningless sounds that ever issued forth from his lying mouth were his statements of lifelong celibacy and his predictions of world change from everyone doing TM. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Thanks for the inf

Re: [FairfieldLife] The More Proper Pronunciation of Maharishi

2014-11-03 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
As far as I can tell, the will had been placed with the proper authorities 6 months before SBS died. The history that MJ quotes makes it sound like the will appeared from nowhere, but that isn't the case apparently. And the main political objections came from the group that selected SBS origi

Re: [FairfieldLife] The More Proper Pronunciation of Maharishi

2014-11-03 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
Every reference I can find to it online either says its "bogus" or that its not. Those that say it is bogus give no real reason for it other than "it must be." The ones that claim it isn't bogus claim it was filed in the proper way with the proper people months before SBS died. Since I don't

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: He Came Out Of The Himalayas

2014-11-03 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
I'm pretty sure he stayed much, much longer than 10 days. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : On 11/3/2014 10:09 AM, Duveyoung wrote: > He kicked the kid outta her room -- > Get a grip, Edg - the Maharishi's visit with the Olson's in L.A. was just for ten days! You s

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Scientist Reviews Three Types of Meditation

2014-11-11 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
Eh, Fred has a PhD in Physiology and has published nearly 50 peer-reviewed studies on meditation. The fact that he doesn't have a neuroscience dept to run doesn't say anything about his research, but is only about what classes are taught at MUM. He's not a bogus scientist simply because he d

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Scientist Reviews Three Types of Meditation

2014-11-11 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
That's a sticky question. In principle, scientists are supposed to make data available, but personality and agenda can get in the way. A law or regulation was passed about a decade ago requiring that any researchers doing research funded by the NIH would have to make the raw data from such a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Scientist Reviews Three Types of Meditation

2014-11-11 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
Well, research on TM enlightened people is still in its infancy. If you take MMY's words at their most simple, he's saying that enlightened people are the most rigid people in teh world and can never change. Seeing how stress tends to make people more rigid, and less stress tends to make t

[FairfieldLife] Re: Established in Being, let anger take over

2014-09-16 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
Eh. Obviously they didn't handle the interviewer well. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Absolutely brilliant. I much needed reminder about how crazy cults can be. None of the sanitised videos carefully chosen for youtube, Oh no. Madness, megalomania and dangerous delusion s

[FairfieldLife] Re: Established in Being, let anger take over

2014-09-17 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
Last I looked, Bevan's pay was inline with all other MUM faculty beside's Hagelin's: slave wages. And Bevan Morris managed to get to India when he was 18(? 20?) on his own steam around the same time as the Beatles showed up, and MMY recognized his devotion to the cause from that moment on.

Re: [FairfieldLife] thoughts on samskaras and enlightenment - CC to UC

2014-09-17 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
MIndfulness and concentrative practices disrupt the Default Mode Network of the brain, which is highly involved with self-referral processing and sense-of-self. In fact, long-term practices lead to a new style of functioning of the nervous system where the original functioning of the DMN, com

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why MMY's Bhagavad Gita will never be a classic.

2014-09-17 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
Hmmm? Vernon Katz was the translator and had no part in the commentary, according to him. In fact, in a video, Vernon says that he would argue with MMY about MMY's choice of words for the translation that overrode Veron's carefully devised scholarly translation, but in the battle of unvei

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why MMY's Bhagavad Gita will never be a classic.

2014-09-17 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
Vernon Katz was translator and transcriber, not commentator. And MMY would insist that a different word be used in the translation and Katz had to oblige, so even the translation was strictly to MMY's specification even though Katz did all the original translating. L ---In FairfieldLi

Re: [FairfieldLife] thoughts on samskaras and enlightenment - CC to UC

2014-09-18 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
Exactly. Up until now, all you could go by, as a meditation instructor was the *context* of the answers: how did the student learn in the first place? Hence MMY's extreme insistence on perfect adherence to his teaching methodology. Now, these days, you can look at how the brain is behav

[FairfieldLife] Gut bacteria as devas?

2014-09-24 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
http://universityofcalifornia.edu/news/do-gut-bacteria-rule-our-minds http://universityofcalifornia.edu/news/do-gut-bacteria-rule-our-minds Do gut bacteria rule our minds? People laugh at MMY's lecture on devas and where they consume soma and yet... The gut microbiome is apparently qui

[FairfieldLife] Re: World and Personal Protection Mantra

2014-09-24 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
Great, and when is his organization going to be able to train enough meditation teachers to each al 45 million school-age kids in Brazil? MMY never claimed that TM was the absolute best thing for everyone, everywhere, but when it comes to distributing meditation education on a scale of milli

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Success in Latin America

2014-09-25 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
All that was claimed about 8,000 (or 7,000) yogic flyers is that they would have the same effect as 1% of the world doing TM. Maharishi specifically claimed that 1% of a society doing TM would be sufficient to cause measurable changes in the entire society. I think you are forgetting that

Re: [FairfieldLife] Jerry email to John sent on Sunday

2014-09-26 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
Eh, anyone who thinks that the Movement is in MORE trouble than it was when Maharishi died is blind. The reduction in the TM fee, combined with the good press from teh DLF, the celebrity endorsements, the [slight] nod from the American Heart Association, and the ongoing phenomenal successes with

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jerry email to John sent on Sunday

2014-09-26 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
What revenue? The David Lynch Foundation is in charge of teaching TM in the public schools. The cost, last time they broke it down, was $300 per student. That's roughly the portion of the standard TM instruction fee that TM tachers normally get for teaching students. Hagelin gets $42K per

[FairfieldLife] Re: AoL vs. TM?

2014-09-26 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
Perhaps, but if you check out the actual research, organization, website, etc., there seems to be far less activity for AoL than for TM. I'm not aware of any current presidents or deputy prime ministers of major countries (Brazil, Colombia, UK, and maybe India?) or former such (Mozambique and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Iowa Suicide Rate

2014-10-01 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
Here are the conclusions you could draw from this: 1) TM makes you more likely to commit suicide 2) people who do TM who decide to go live in Fairfield, Iowa, tend to self-medicate using TM, rather than seeking professional help for thigns that TM doesn't affect. 3) both

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Iowa Suicide Rate

2014-10-01 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
Who says that the ego is destroyed or weakened or you are taken out of it or whatever with TM? Part of the issue is that we try to conflate Freud's terminology with Maharishi's and part of the issue is that we tend to assume that all meditation practices have the same effect, so the fact t

[FairfieldLife] Re: My take on "Waking Up" by Sam Harris

2014-10-01 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
Fred Travis published research on enlightened people. This review paper looks at the research: Transcendental experiences during meditation practice - Travis - 2013 - Annals of the New York Academy of Sciences - Wiley Online Library http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10./nyas.12316/ful

[FairfieldLife] Re: My take on "Waking Up" by Sam Harris

2014-10-01 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
"He did not even mention CC in his conclusion (above) either." Er, talk about selective quoting. There's no conclusion section, but the discussion section, which you only partially quote, actually starts out talking about the integration of transcendental experiences with waking, dreaming a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Iowa Suicide Rate

2014-10-01 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
Spiritual and Material Values "Every experience has its level of physiology, and so unbounded awareness has its own level of physiology which can be measured. Every aspect of life is integrated and connected with every other phase. When we talk of scientific measurements, it does not take aw

[FairfieldLife] Re: My take on "Waking Up" by Sam Harris

2014-10-02 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
I should also add that the criteria for being included in the studies that Fred did was having witnessing sleep for a year. THere were several people interviewed who responded in a way that suggested to me (and to Fred also, from what he has said) that they were in GC or UC, but there weren't

[FairfieldLife] Re: My take on "Waking Up" by Sam Harris

2014-10-02 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
If the formatting was wrong, here's what the interview responses were like from the enlightened test subjects to the question "Describe your self": L1: We ordinarily think my self as this age; this color of hair; these hobbies . . . my experience is that my Self is a lot larger than that. I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Tinfoil hat time!

2014-10-02 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
I believe there is a blood test for ebola. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : The key word in this quiz is "MIGHT" have ebola. We don't know who has the ebola virus, you can't screen for it - until they show symptoms of being infected. And, you can't get the ebola virus fr

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My take on "Waking Up" by Sam Harris

2014-10-02 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
Witnessing sleep isn't directly correlated with "wandering mind.:" The EEG pattern and general location of active brain centers during pure consciousness is similar to normal mind wandering except the EEG is a bit slower, far more coherent and the power in the EEG frequencies that are associa

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My take on "Waking Up" by Sam Harris

2014-10-02 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
The subjects self-reported having pure consciousness at all times, including witnessing sleep, as i understand it. And the measures included EEG, not just interview questions. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Lenglish" " I should also add that the criteria for being incl

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My take on "Waking Up" by Sam Harris

2014-10-02 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
Did you miss that this was a review paper, not a study? and the very definition of CC is "the integration of transcendental experiences with waking, dreaming, and sleeping" so the fact that he doesn't use CC should be taken that he is talking to a mainstream audience, rather than some group o

[FairfieldLife] Research on Cosmic Consciousness... more detail

2014-10-02 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
The criteria the Fred used to find his subjects in CC was that they had to have continuous integration of transcendental experiences (TE) with waking and sleeping for at least 1 year. The "Cont-TE" group. Two other groups were chosen as well: people who intended to learn TM but had not yet s

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Research on Cosmic Consciousness... more detail

2014-10-03 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
Maharishi suggested that the question "where does the 'enlightened man' go when he dies?" is simply a misunderstanding. Once Self is realized, there is no "going." Unity is where this situation is directly perceived, but even for someone in CC, the question no longer makes sense, as you

[FairfieldLife] Re: Research on Cosmic Consciousness... more detail

2014-10-03 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
In order for perception to be perception, there must be a physical nervous system. Even for universal consciousness to be "aware of" things (even of Itself), there must be structure --some kind of physiology, even if it is "made of" Universal Consciousness with no defining characteristics bes

RE: [FairfieldLife] Rick: about your rule

2014-10-03 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
Having a conversation about TM right now with a friend in Brazil. The point I made to him seems relevant. TM has two ways of affecting people (hopefully for the good): 1) rest during TM may make some condition better; 2) the growing stability of the relaxed EEG trait outside of TM

[FairfieldLife] The Happiest school in San Francisco

2014-10-03 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
Many people like to bash TM, and want to prevent its use anywhere for any reason. And yet... This opinion piece came out in January of this year: http://www.sfgate.com/opinion/openforum/article/Meditation-transforms-roughest-San-Francisco-5136942.php http://www.sfgate.com/opinion/op

[FairfieldLife] David Lynch: BULL****!!!

2014-10-03 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
David Lynch: Transcendental Meditation Helps Schools // SiriusXM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yR7mSi0pITI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yR7mSi0pITI David Lynch: Transcendental Meditation Helps Schools // ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yR7mSi0pITI Sign Up for a Free SiriusXM Tr

Re: [FairfieldLife] The Happiest school in San Francisco

2014-10-03 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
The oped and research are from January of this year. Are you saying that TM was banned from Visitacion Valley Middle School AFTER it was found to be the happiest school in San Francisco? BTW, if TM is just so plain awful, what is your explanation for the survey results? Ongoing indoctrina

Re: [FairfieldLife] The Happiest school in San Francisco

2014-10-04 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
Your logic is STILL weak. It is possible, that for SOME people, TM is counter-indicated, for example, with "relaxation induced anxiety" -but that can happen with any relaxation practice, not just TM. Other groups might be counter-indicated as well, but there's no peer-reviewed research

Re: [FairfieldLife] The Happiest school in San Francisco

2014-10-04 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
TM was "booted?" Or do you mean that teh program never actually started? The DLF has limited funds and will quite cheerfully go to the next school on the list (Rio de Janeiro put all 1000 of its schools on the list a few years ago) rather than fight. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.co

[FairfieldLife] Re: Research on Cosmic Consciousness... more detail

2014-10-04 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
To summarize (and probably oversimplify) Fred's research: Samadhi is where a healthy brain is not doing anything, but is still alert. In more detail, during PC during TM, the connectivity of the default mode network (the part of the brain that activates when you're not trying to DO something)

Re: [FairfieldLife] The Happiest school in San Francisco

2014-10-04 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
How would the DLF QUiet Time program "steal furniture?" A regular school teacher already employed by the school learns to ring a bell at the start and end of the Quiet TIme period. TM teachers don't teach at Quiet Time schools, but at the local TM center or at someone's home. Checking is also

Re: [FairfieldLife] The Happiest school in San Francisco

2014-10-04 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
That's radically different than the QT descriptions I have read about. Do you have proof of this besides what you heard someone say someone complained about? L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : your assertions on this point are all incorrect - there were TM teachers at a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Confusion about Samâdhi and Liberation

2014-10-05 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
Perhaps I've misunderstood, perhaps you have, or perhaps Shankara is simply wrong. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Lawson sez: L: In order for perception to be perception, there must be a physical nervous system. This is contradicted by the Vedanta and Yoga

[FairfieldLife] Re: Research on Cosmic Consciousness... more detail

2014-10-05 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
CC doesn't depend on awareness of the outside world, only on self-awareness. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : From: salyavin808 Does "cosmic" consciousness still work when you are under an anaesthetic? I'm guessing not.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Confusion about Samâdhi and Liberation

2014-10-05 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
Do you mean this? Brihadaranyaka Upanishad - Shankara Bhashya translated by Swami Madhavananda https://archive.org/stream/Brihadaranyaka.Upanishad.Shankara.Bhashya.by.Swami.Madhavananda#page/n137/mode/2up Brihadaranyaka Upanishad - Shankara Bhashya translated by Swami Madhavananda https:/

[FairfieldLife] Re: Truth -- the bitterness untouched by TM

2014-10-08 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
Bankers aren't as invested in war as he thinks. They make MORE money during peacetime, these days. Other that that, he's pretty much spot-on, I suspect. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : If you don't agree with every single word of this guy's rant, YOU'RE FUCKED UP IN T

[FairfieldLife] Re: Truth -- the bitterness untouched by TM

2014-10-08 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
He also seems to think that Zionism is the root of all evil. I assume that goes back to his paranoia about bankers. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : If you don't agree with every single word of this guy's rant, YOU'RE FUCKED UP IN THE HEAD. Ken O'Keefe Dares To Say

Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl

2014-10-08 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
Perhaps TM and TMSP DID help him, but TM is an anti-stress practice. There's no reason (other than Maharishi's most extreme rhetoric) to assume that, in any finite amount of time (at least), it will affect non-stress-related behavioral and health-related issues. Now, you can make the case

Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins 40 year banana

2014-10-09 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
What evidence do you hve the Collins had access to ANY of the kids taught TM through the DLF? I've seen no publicity photos of him in schools. And how old is Collins? When I was 21, I was dating 16-year-olds. Their parents were quite aware of our age difference, and were pleased tha

Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins 40 year banana

2014-10-09 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
OK, reading up on things, he's 8 years older than me, so an incident that happened 42 years ago would have made him in his mid-20s. Also, the incident was not with a 16-year-old he was dating with parent's knowledge, but with an 11-year-old. That's pedaphilia, not merely dating a girl that's

Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins 40 year banana

2014-10-09 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
Hmmm... My original point stands, however: I've seen no evidence that he's been anywhere near any kid taught TM through the DLF. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : That's what acting like a knee-jerk TM defender will get you, Lawson. You look like a complete ass. And n

Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins 40 year banana

2014-10-09 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
Collins didn't violate statutory rape laws with a consenting 16-year-old with the tacit approval of their parents. 11-year-olds and 16-year-olds are slightly different. And my point still stands: I have seen no evidence that Collins ever went anywhere near any child taught TM via th

Re: 399652Re: [FairfieldLife] The Happiest school in San Francisco

2014-10-09 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
Huh. It's not like he tried to hide it, either cwae.org is not hard to find: Executive Team | Center for Wellness and Achievement in Education http://cwae.org/executive_team.php Executive Team | Center for Wellness and Achievement in Education http://cwae.org/executive_team.php Your

[FairfieldLife] Sara Palin's Crazy Clown Time...

2014-10-09 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
I don't know which is more bizarre: Palin Clan Brawl: Seven Amazing Moments Revealed By The Police Report http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/palin-brawl-police-report-amazing-moments http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/palin-brawl-police-report-amazing-moments Palin Clan Brawl:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Adi Shankara

2014-10-10 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
Maharishi believed that Shankara lived 2000+ years ago also, and yet, virtually every modern historian puts him in the 8th Century C.E., so talking about his commentary on the Gita being "the oldest extant commentary for two millenia," is, well, being like Maharishi: playing a bit fast with the

[FairfieldLife] Whoever heard of Fairfield, Iowa?

2014-10-10 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
Everyone goes on and on about how good TM marketing is, but seriously, as with all other things TM, there's no real coordinated effort to promote TM. It's all done piecemeal. A professional big-city PR firm could have a field day encouraging people to move to Fairfield as an indirect advertiseme

[FairfieldLife] Re: (399652) The Happiest school in San Francisco

2014-10-11 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
Of course, MMY never advocated "renouncing wealth." In fact, he carefully marketed TM as a technique for householders -people for whom wealth was important because they were interested in physical comfort, raising kids in a comfortable and safe environment, etc. According to theory, the ex

Re: 399652Re: [FairfieldLife] The Happiest school in San Francisco

2014-10-11 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
Actually, the NIH is pretty cash-strapped these days and the competition is very fierce for research grants, especially in a non-mainstream field like TM. And $24 million to study TM isn't the same as $200,000, or $800,000. TM researchers are very aware of this, and while privately f

Re: 399652Re: [FairfieldLife] The Happiest school in San Francisco

2014-10-11 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
Different meditation traditions have different interpretations of what mantras are, and how they should be used. While I don't have access to either book, I've been able to read excerpts through amazon.com and google books: Ritual and Mantras: Rules without Meaning http://www.amazon.com/R

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Fall Of Baghdad

2014-10-11 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
Christian Crusaders did the same thing, and don't fool yourself, if Americans ever "conquered" a country, we'd do the same thing too. Ask any American Indian tribe if you need examples. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : They're supplied the same way Mohammed supplied his

[FairfieldLife] Brazilian TM project for 45 million school kids edging closer to reality?

2014-06-14 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
http://www.maharishichannel.in/archives/2012_video_files/01_2012/2012_play.php http://www.maharishichannel.in/archives/2012_video_files/01_2012/2012_play.php A little award ceremony for the Brazilian congressman, Alex Canziania Silveira, who proposed the project and apparently has man

Re: [FairfieldLife] Fwd: FP's Situation Report: WH backing away from airstrikes for now; Baghdad's fight against ISIS online; Few details on the Benghazi suspect captured; An FP report sparks a UN inv

2014-06-19 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
The article is written by Dick (I know where the WMDs are) Cheney. Need I say more? L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : The problem with air strikes is collateral damage. And, drones can't be used for sustained attack like war planes can. Sure you can strike a colum

[FairfieldLife] Re: What would a cool spiritual teaching be like?

2014-06-20 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
That's just "not cool," Judy, as it automatically casts dispersions on Unc's way of doing things. You gotta add an "Unc exception" to that. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : My contribution: * It respects other traditions and beliefs. One may disagree with the teac

[FairfieldLife] Re: Unofficial Group Meditations in Fairfield

2014-06-23 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
While mos people here appear to believe that your stance on the TM-Sidhis makes perfect sense, I'm actually kind of bewildered... Why on Earth haven't you and your wife become Sidhas? Is it really that difficult to believe that engaging in a mental process which leads to [more or less] spo

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Unofficial Group Meditations in Fairfield

2014-06-23 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
As I pointed out, the EEG research on the TM-SIdhis shows that it has the same effects on EEG as TM does, but more-so, so if you think that the EEG effects of TM practice are beneficial, it makes sense that you should be thinking that the EEG effects of practicing the TM-Sidhis might be benefic

[FairfieldLife] Re: UK Schools finally enter the 19th century!

2014-06-23 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
When was the teaching of creationism banned in all public schools in the USA? L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Hard to believe they've only just done this now... Teaching Creationism As Science Now Banned In All UK Public Schools http://richarddawkins.net/2014/06/teac

[FairfieldLife] Re: How to tell if you are awakened...

2014-06-24 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
21 ways to tell if you're special: 1) you're like me. 2) you're like me. 3) you're like me. 4) you're like me. 21) you're like me. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ...apparently. http://thespiritscience.net/2014/06/23/21-traits-of-an-awakening-so

[FairfieldLife] Re: Jerry Says So

2014-06-25 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
Well, Saddam Hussein obviously can't be blamed for how violent Iraq was, either. You CAN blame the Brits (?) for inventing the country in the first place, but they liked to merge tribes into countries in a way that kept them warring with each other rather than rebelling against the Brits, so

[FairfieldLife] Re: The dark knight of the soul

2014-06-25 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
My response: Different practices have different effects. Most practices have the effect of fragmenting how the brain operates, as can be seen in the title of this 2010 paper, http://www.amaye.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/med-connectivity-EEG-tomog.pdf "Reduced functional connectivity

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