RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Do Couto Jose.

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

I would look through the marriages in Sao Jose as there are much less records 
to look at. 

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

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Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cheri Mello
Sent: Monday, January 20, 2020 12:14 PM
To: Azores Genealogy 
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Do Couto Jose.

 

HI Rob,

 

You would just poke through the Sao Jose church obitos in Ponta Delgada, going 
one by one. 

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

 

 

On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 9:13 AM Rob Whaite mailto:rwhait...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi 

 

I am trying to see if the above Jose Do Couto born 1814 Sao Jose,Ponta 
Delgada,Sao Miguel perhaps died there .

He was also married in the same village in 1837. 

 

Even if you can just guide me in the right direction would be good!

 

Kind Regards

 

Rob

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Do Couto Jose.

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

You did not say what his wife’s name was but here is a marriage of a Jose do 
Couto.  
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1835-1843/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1835-1843_item1/P26.html
 

 

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

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Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

 

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cheri Mello
Sent: Monday, January 20, 2020 12:14 PM
To: Azores Genealogy 
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Do Couto Jose.

 

HI Rob,

 

You would just poke through the Sao Jose church obitos in Ponta Delgada, going 
one by one. 

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

 

 

On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 9:13 AM Rob Whaite mailto:rwhait...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi 

 

I am trying to see if the above Jose Do Couto born 1814 Sao Jose,Ponta 
Delgada,Sao Miguel perhaps died there .

He was also married in the same village in 1837. 

 

Even if you can just guide me in the right direction would be good!

 

Kind Regards

 

Rob

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese song recordings

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

They have so much stuff on it is easy to get carried away on it. There are 
recording going back to the very early days of recordings. Speeches from 
Theodore Roosevelt to early jazz, ethnic music, popular music up to the current 
day, they have it.

 

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Sent: Friday, January 17, 2020 11:02 AM
To: Azores Genealogy 
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese song recordings

 

I didn't know we had a "National Juke Box." That's cool!


Cheri Mello
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Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

 

 

On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 6:30 AM Richard Francis Pimentel 
mailto:rickredle...@gmail.com> > wrote:

To add to the conversation. The Library of Congress (National Juke Box) has a 
number of recordings While I have not searched for others my great uncle has 
several of his recordings in Portuguese posted and can be listened to, he 
(Manuel J. Carvalho) recorded in the 1920's.   http://www.loc.gov/jukebox/ 

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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portugues song recordings

Here is a link to all of the Azorean folk recordings made by Sydney Cowell. She 
was the wife of the important composer Henry Cowell. 

https://www.loc.gov/search/?fa=subject%3Asongs%2C+portuguese

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese song recordings

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

To add to the conversation. The Library of Congress (National Juke Box) has a 
number of recordings While I have not searched for others my great uncle has 
several of his recordings in Portuguese posted and can be listened to, he 
(Manuel J. Carvalho) recorded in the 1920's.   http://www.loc.gov/jukebox/ 

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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portugues song recordings

Here is a link to all of the Azorean folk recordings made by Sydney Cowell. She 
was the wife of the important composer Henry Cowell. 

https://www.loc.gov/search/?fa=subject%3Asongs%2C+portuguese

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA and Genealogy on 20/20 last night

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

Cheri, Thanks for sharing. It is interesting to not only see what DNA can find 
but also what the reaction of different people are.

Rick

 

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Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 7:31 PM
To: Azores Genealogy 
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA and Genealogy on 20/20 last night

 

This was a rerun from a year ago. 20/20 is an American investigative journalism 
news program.

 

Cece Moore helps find the birth parents of two different individuals. I'm not 
sure if the link works outside of the United States. It's about 40 minutes long.

https://vimeo.com/288912882

 

Cheri Mello
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Haplogroup K1a4a1

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

I just found him and see the difference – close but no cigar. 

rick

 

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Sent: Wednesday, December 25, 2019 3:35 PM
To: Azores Genealogy 
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Haplogroup K1a4a1

 

Rick,

 

Your cousin has the "a" on the end of his haplogroup. Bill doesn't have it.

Cheri Mello
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Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

 

 

On Wed, Dec 25, 2019 at 12:27 PM Richard Francis Pimentel 
mailto:rickredle...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Bill Ricardo wrote:

I have thus far submitted DNA tests to both ancestry.com <http://ancestry.com>  
and FamilyTreeDNA.com and I have obtained further YDNA and MtDNA results 
(haplogroups G-M201 and K1a4a, respectively) from the latter.  I have further 
shared data with MyHeritage.com and GEDMatch.  Up until now I have used 
ancestry.com <http://ancestry.com>  as my primary tree building platform but I 
discovered a few months ago that the 1,000 or so photos I had uploaded there 
last year at this time had disappeared from the various family member profiles 
and they, ancestry.com <http://ancestry.com> ,  were initially unable to 
explain why.  Since that first revelation, they have responded to me via email 
for additional data from me about my tree, such as sending them screen shots 
and the like.  Frankly, I don't wish to commit to that much time to reconstruct 
the info I had loaded to the site over what easily took me dozens of hours to 
generate.  My thought now is that I should cancel my subscription with 
ancestry.com <http://ancestry.com>  and rebuild my extended tree with My 
Heritage.

 

My question is can My Heritage.com provide the same or comparable level of info 
that I was getting from ancestry.com <http://ancestry.com>  if I subscribe to 
their "Complete" service level?

 

Any assistance/recommendations would be greatly appreciated.

 

Obrigado/Mahalo/Thanks,

Bill Ricardo

 

Bill I started this under a new subject.  I noted your MtDNA test result is 
K1a4a (Not sure if you left the last digit off) My great grandmother was a 
K1a4a1, I actually traced down the female line to a male cousin (Robert 
Carvalho) and tested him on FTDNA. What testing company did you test the MtDNA 
with?

 

As far as trees on line I am a strong advocate of not keeping my information on 
line or in a cloud. I prefer to having it on a program on my own computer. 
There are several posts in the list archive about genealogy programs and a post 
earlier this month on the subject. 

 

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Lee, NH

 

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Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Haplogroup K1a4a1

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

 

Bill Ricardo wrote:

I have thus far submitted DNA tests to both  <http://ancestry.com>
ancestry.com and FamilyTreeDNA.com and I have obtained further YDNA and
MtDNA results (haplogroups G-M201 and K1a4a, respectively) from the latter.
I have further shared data with MyHeritage.com and GEDMatch.  Up until now I
have used  <http://ancestry.com> ancestry.com as my primary tree building
platform but I discovered a few months ago that the 1,000 or so photos I had
uploaded there last year at this time had disappeared from the various
family member profiles and they,  <http://ancestry.com> ancestry.com,  were
initially unable to explain why.  Since that first revelation, they have
responded to me via email for additional data from me about my tree, such as
sending them screen shots and the like.  Frankly, I don't wish to commit to
that much time to reconstruct the info I had loaded to the site over what
easily took me dozens of hours to generate.  My thought now is that I should
cancel my subscription with  <http://ancestry.com> ancestry.com and rebuild
my extended tree with My Heritage.

 

My question is can My Heritage.com provide the same or comparable level of
info that I was getting from  <http://ancestry.com> ancestry.com if I
subscribe to their "Complete" service level?

 

Any assistance/recommendations would be greatly appreciated.

 

Obrigado/Mahalo/Thanks,

Bill Ricardo

 

Bill I started this under a new subject.  I noted your MtDNA test result is
K1a4a (Not sure if you left the last digit off) My great grandmother was a
K1a4a1, I actually traced down the female line to a male cousin (Robert
Carvalho) and tested him on FTDNA. What testing company did you test the
MtDNA with?

 

As far as trees on line I am a strong advocate of not keeping my information
on line or in a cloud. I prefer to having it on a program on my own
computer. There are several posts in the list archive about genealogy
programs and a post earlier this month on the subject. 

 

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Lee, NH

 

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Grandparents Naturalization Application Massachusetts

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

Elaine,  I am going to guess that your grandparents applied for Citizenship
around the 1935-1940 time period.  As such they would have applied to the
Bristol County District Court which is in Taunton, MA. The records from
there are held in the Massachusetts State Archives located near the JFK
Library in Boston which is actually near Dorchester. I found several of my
greats paperwork there. I seem to recall they had the information on
microfilm at the time and I could make copies of the images.  Because I went
there I was able to do the searching myself and the staff was very helpful.
I don't know what the policy is on mail requests but this web site may help
:  www.sec.state.ma.us/arc/arcres/residx.htm
<http://www.sec.state.ma.us/arc/arcres/residx.htm>  

 

Some time after WWII the process for naturalization was taken by the US
District Courts. The records of naturalization for that period are kept in
the national archives. For Massachusetts that would be the one located in
Waltham. I have been there and I first had to look on microfilm for the
record I wanted  then request to look at it. I took about a hour for them to
get it then I was able to look at the original in a viewing room and get a
copy made. As I recall it only cost  around 50 cents for the copies. Once
again the staff there was very helpful.

 

Good luck in your search.

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Lee, NH

 

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

hi Rick,

   

They immigrated at the turn of the century and ended up in New Bedford,
MA.  I found my grandfather's declaration on Ancestry, and sent in for
information for both grandparents only to find out that the USCIS had
nothing they could find.  It was recommended I try the state judicial
archives, and sent them a request with money and never heard back from them
on those records.

 

 If the Federal Archives have them in Waltham, that would be good to
know.  I did ask the state archives in Dorchester whether they had anything,
and they said I could try and submit a request and they'd do a search, but I
haven't gone that route yet. 


On Friday, November 22, 2019 at 8:32:03 PM UTC-5, Richard Francis Pimentel
wrote:

When did your grandparents become citizens? Where? Did they live in
Massachusetts?

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Lee, NH

 

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

 

 

 

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Huge increase in price for searching U.S. Naturalization records

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

When did your grandparents become citizens? Where? Did they live in 
Massachusetts?

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Lee, NH

 

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

 

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Elaine 
Mello
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 8:20 PM
To: Azores Genealogy 
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Huge increase in price for searching U.S. 
Naturalization records

 

 

I tried to find my grandparents records and they couldn't find anything.  In 
fact, it was suggested I try the court records here in Boston and I reached out 
to someone and never heard back from them.  

 

I'd love for someone to get these scanned.  If they can actually find them, 
since the government can't seem to do the job for any cost.

 

Elaine 

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Huge increase in price for searching U.S. Naturalization records

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

Around 2004 I went to the National Records Center in Waltham, MA. I was able to 
verify that the Naturalization Record I was seeking was in fact there and they 
pulled the record for me which was the original. I was able to have a copy made 
which was around 25 cents.  This is crazy charging so much to get a copy of a 
record. I personally think they want to charge so much that no one can afford 
to make a request. They will have nothing to do and they will sit around all 
day playing on their computers and watching videos.

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Lee, NH

 

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

 

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cheri Mello
Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2019 1:40 PM
To: Azores Genealogy 
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Huge increase in price for searching U.S. 
Naturalization records

 

Dick Eastman wrote about the huge price increase for U.S. Naturalization 
records. The new fees are ridiculous!

https://blog.eogn.com/2019/11/15/uscis-proposes-fee-increases-for-genealogy-records/
 

 

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Last ditch effort

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

Hello Brian,

Have you done any DNA testing? If you do a Family Finder Test with Family Tree 
DNA, it is possible see which village your matches are from by comparing trees. 
I take it you are interested in finding who are the father (s) of your Great 
Grandmothers children.  The family finder is on sale until Nov 30 for $59. 
There are other DNA tests on sale and perhaps a Y-DNA test could be helpful if 
your direct male line is to one of her male children. You can learn more here:  
https://www.familytreedna.com/ 

Good Luck.

 

Rick

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Brian 
Margarit
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 1:28 PM
To: Azores Genealogy 
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Last ditch effort

 

Hi guys,

 

I'm not sure if this is allowed, but I'm sort of at the end of my rope on this 
search.  I've been trying for years, but a combination of my terrible reading 
of records and a lack of information have got me to this point.  My 
great-grandmother was an unmarried domestic worker who had 5 children out of 
wedlock, so it's been tough.  Here's what I have.  Anything highlighted is oral 
family history.

 

Maria De Lurdes Dias

June 5, 1906 - 1947

Born: Urzelina (Or Ribiera Grande/or Seca)

Occupation: Housekeeper

Children: Helena (1927) Laurentino (1929), Ilda (1930), Fernando (1931), Raul 
(1947)

Buried: Sao Mateus Churchyard

 

Parents: Manuel Jorge Dias, Josefina Dias (Victorino)

 

Worked for Jaime Noronha Soares, Urzelina.  

 

Anything at all would be amazing.  She's the reason I started this years ago, 
and is easily both the most difficult and most important person in it.  Also, 
anything on Laurentino would also help.

 

Thanks!!

 

 

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help Reading Name on Marriage

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

It looks like it is a word meaning as above I would have to look at more of the 
record to understand what it means exactly.

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Lee, NH

 

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

 

 

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Sent: Friday, November 1, 2019 5:54 AM
To: Azores Genealogy 
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help Reading Name on Marriage

 

Hi All,

 

I don't understand the word before the groom's name:

 

 filho ___ Amaro Machado 
Barcellos

any ideas?

 

Thanks so much.

 

Jessica

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family size survey

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

My dads aunt and uncle had 14 kids from 1913-1933.

 

My 2nd Great Grandfather had 14 kids from his first wife from 1858-1882. 

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Lee, NH

 

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

 

 

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Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 9:34 PM
To: Azores Genealogy 
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family size survey

 

Can you all let me know the largest Azorean family you have in your database? I 
prefer the late 1800s onwards, and it must be from ONE wife. All kids, whether 
or not they lived to adulthood.

 

Example: 14 kids from ONE wife, includes one set of twins. Kids born from 
1890-1913.

 

Thanks, Cheri

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Úrsula Leite - Nordeste

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

I have a family that used the name Raposo Quintanilha. They were from 
Ribeirinha, Sao Miguel.

 

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Lee, NH

 

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

 

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of George 
Sousa
Sent: Monday, September 2, 2019 6:56 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Úrsula Leite - Nordeste

 

Thank you JR! This is the first time I've seen the surnames Albernas and 
Quintanilha. 

 

On Mon, Sep 2, 2019 at 12:53 AM JR mailto:jmro...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 "Em os vinte e seis dias do mes de dezembro deste  anno de mil e seis sentos e 
outenta e outo Baptizou o pedro furtado Leite beneficiado Em esta Matriz de Sao 
Jorge a huma menina a que foi posto nome urcela f.a. de Joam Leite e de Izabel 
Figueira foram padrinhos francisco de Albernas da Costa e sua molher Maria de 
Torres Quintanilha..."

On Sunday, September 1, 2019 at 9:11:21 PM UTC-4, George Sousa wrote:

Thanks everyone for your help. Based on you corrections here is what I think it 
says...

 

"Em os vinte e seis dias do mes de dezembro deste  anno de mil e seis sentos e 
outenta e outo Baptizou o pedro furtado Leite beneficiado Em esta Matriz de Sao 
Jorge a sua menina a que foi posto nome urcela f.a. de Joam Leite e de Izabel 
Figueira foram padrinhos francisco de ? da Costa e sua molher Maria de 
torres..."

 

On Sun, Sep 1, 2019 at 8:52 PM Bill Seidler mailto:bsei...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I believe Cheri has it all correct.  Pedro Furtado Leite is the priest.  It 
says his is beneficiado? em esta (same as nesta?) Matriz.  I believe a 
beneficiado is a position in the clergy.  On the top left record on this image 
it has the same format except the clergy member is Cura Manuel Lopes da Costa.  
I'm not sure of the three letters after baptizou.  My guess is o P.e for o 
Padre.

 

Bill Seidler

On Sunday, September 1, 2019 at 4:47:37 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:

Yes on the date. I don't know who is Pedro Furtado Leite. The priest? Yes on 
the parents. I think the godfather is Francisco Alvernaz da Costa. You got the 
godmother right. Let's see what others have to say.


Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

 

On Sun, Sep 1, 2019 at 4:26 PM George Sousa mailto:george...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi all,

I could use some help trying to figure out what is going on with this baptismal 
record 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-ND-SAOJORGE-B-1675-1706/SMG-ND-SAOJORGE-B-1675-1706_item1/P51.html
 (fourth entry on the right).

 

Here is what I have so far...

"Urcela (Úrsula)

Em os vinte e seis dias do mes de dezembro deste  anno de mil e seis sentos e 
outenta e outo Baptizou o pedro? furtado Leite Con?ficiado Em esta Matrix de 
Sao Jorge a sua ? a que foi ? ? ? Joam Leite e de Izabel Figueira foram 
padrinhos francisco de ? da Costa e sua molher Maria de torres ?..."

 

I believe this is the baptismal record of Úrsula Leite (my wife's 7x great 
grandmother). Úrsula married Amaro Pimentel (or Amaro da Costa) on November 
20th 1715 in Nordeste. In the marriage record Úrsula's parents are listed as 
Joao Leite and Isabel Figueira.

 

 

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Primeira d’este

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

Yes as I recall it was twins that were both named Manuel. I searched obits for 
a period after and did not find one for either of them. So apparently the 
intention of the parents was to name both of them Manuel.

 

Rick

 

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Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2019 10:10 PM
To: Azores Genealogy 
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Primeira d’este

 

Kathy,

 

I thought it was Rick Pimentel who had a couple of Manuels who both lived. I 
think it's pretty rare, but it did happen. On the boys, I'd check the obits for 
the older son first before scouring the marriages for the older son. 

 

Debbie, the *general* rule that is taught is the birth of the first kid is 2 
years after marriage. I start the day after the marriage and go from there. If 
I don't find any for a couple of years, then I figure I can go forward 
collecting the kids. If I find the bride and groom had a dispensation though, I 
look a couple of years before their marriage. They may have had to wait for the 
dispensation so they started their family in the meantime. That's just my 
method.  Cheri

 

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

 

 

On Sun, Jul 21, 2019 at 7:03 PM JesseAndDeborah Mendonca 
mailto:jessdebmendo...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I was so hoping it meant I finally found their first child, lol. :)  I will 
hunt obits, now for lists of all the children.   Thank you both for all of the 
help in SLC!

 

Thanks. 

 

Debbie

 

 

 

On Sun, Jul 21, 2019 at 8:19 AM 'Kathy Cardoza' via Azores Genealogy 
mailto:azores@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

Cheri

 

I’m sure you’re right but I am someone that has two Manuels, both lived, and 
had families…… Not sure if I’m the example you mentioned or not? When I first 
discovered this, I assumed the first Manuel had died. I knew the second Manuel 
had lived …. he married the sister of his oldest brother, Francisco, so I never 
researched that first Manuel. Eventually, after being contacted by another 
researcher, we realized that HER Manuel was the first one in the family, the 
one I had assumed had died. (He had changed his last name to Rodgers, possibly 
to distinguish him from his brother.) This was proven, by the way, with, among 
other things, his obituary that listed all his siblings, including my Francisco 
Pereira da Rosa! Pretty exciting and a reminder to all of us to keep an open 
mind and make no assumptions without proving or disproving them. Oh, also, this 
family had two Maria Delfinas! Thanks a lot, da Rosas, lol. I have never seen 
this in any other of my families with Manuels.

 

Kathy

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So if you see a Manuel, first of the name, then see a Manuel, 2nd of the name, 
the 1st one has died. Yes, someone on this list has found 2 Manuels, both 
married and had kids. However, I'd say that was pretty rare. So generally, the 
first boy has died. Cheri

 

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Virginio Pacheco

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

Yes perhaps start searching the Ellis Island website (make sure you use name 
spelling variations) If you find him there you will have a date to go to the 
passports for the Acores on Tombo or CCA website.

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gonçalo 
Marques
Sent: Saturday, July 6, 2019 6:05 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Virginio Pacheco

 

 

Thanks Richard

I like that idea very much.

I would I go to try to find when he immigrated and then to check the passports?

 

On Sat, Jul 6, 2019 at 10:58 AM Richard Francis Pimentel 
mailto:richard.francis.pimen...@gmail.com> 
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This Virgino was born in Portugal (assuming Acores). There are many parishes 
and unless you have any information as to what parish he belongs to it will 
take time as there are over 70 parishes on Sao Miguel alone. I would try and 
find when he immigrated to the us and then check the passports leaving the 
Acores which will name the parish he is from.

 

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mailto:azores@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Gonçalo Marques
Sent: Saturday, July 6, 2019 4:59 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com <mailto:azores@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Virginio Pacheco

 

 

Hello everyone,

 

I'm trying to track the paternal line of a Y match but I'm not very experienced 
with the research in the US and I'm having trouble finding the trasition of the 
line from the US to S. Miguel.

 

I'm looking for the patrilineal line of Virginio Pacheco that you can see here 
in the 1930s census



According to his, he, his wife and a son (whose name I can't read) came from 
Portugal.

 

I also have this info

Name

Virginio Pacheco

SSN

025-10-6528

Last Residence

Methuen, 01844, Essex, Massachusetts, USA

Born

7 Sep 1897

Died

Jul 1975

State (Year) SSN issued

Massachusetts - Before 1951

 

I believe this line comes from the western part of S. Miguel, so I looked into 
the baptism records of 1897 and 1898 for Ajuda da Bretanha, Pilar da Bretanha, 
Santo Anónio além Capelas, Mosteiros, Ginetes, Candelária and Feteiras. I found 
only one Virginio and he was not Pacheco.

 

Did someone on the group bump into a Virginio Pacheco?

Do you have ideas on whatelse I could do to proceed?

 

Thank you

Gonçalo

 

 

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Virginio Pacheco

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

This Virgino was born in Portugal (assuming Acores). There are many parishes 
and unless you have any information as to what parish he belongs to it will 
take time as there are over 70 parishes on Sao Miguel alone. I would try and 
find when he immigrated to the us and then check the passports leaving the 
Acores which will name the parish he is from.

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gonçalo 
Marques
Sent: Saturday, July 6, 2019 4:59 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Virginio Pacheco

 

 

Hello everyone,

 

I'm trying to track the paternal line of a Y match but I'm not very experienced 
with the research in the US and I'm having trouble finding the trasition of the 
line from the US to S. Miguel.

 

I'm looking for the patrilineal line of Virginio Pacheco that you can see here 
in the 1930s census



According to his, he, his wife and a son (whose name I can't read) came from 
Portugal.

 

I also have this info

Name

Virginio Pacheco

SSN

025-10-6528

Last Residence

Methuen, 01844, Essex, Massachusetts, USA

Born

7 Sep 1897

Died

Jul 1975

State (Year) SSN issued

Massachusetts - Before 1951

 

I believe this line comes from the western part of S. Miguel, so I looked into 
the baptism records of 1897 and 1898 for Ajuda da Bretanha, Pilar da Bretanha, 
Santo Anónio além Capelas, Mosteiros, Ginetes, Candelária and Feteiras. I found 
only one Virginio and he was not Pacheco.

 

Did someone on the group bump into a Virginio Pacheco?

Do you have ideas on whatelse I could do to proceed?

 

Thank you

Gonçalo

 

 

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA Sale

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

That is because you belong to more than one project and you may be listed for 
more than one kit.
Rick
Family Tree DNA Co-Administrator
Azores DNA Project
  
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All unpaid volunteers 
Cheri Mello – gfsche...@gmail.com 
Rick Pimentel – richard.francis.pimen...@gmail.com 
 




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I’ve received 7 notices regarding the sale. I think your internet slipped a 
gear. 
Gordon 

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Alphabetizing Portuguese Surnames

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

I used to have to use the slashes to separate the names in Family Tree Maker. I 
am not sure about the latest edition of Family Tree Maker.

 

Rick

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cheri Mello
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 1:12 PM
To: Azores Genealogy 
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Alphabetizing Portuguese Surnames

 

Yes, I put my names as:

Given: Manuel de

Last: Mello

 

Some programs don't separate out the given and the last (or surname). In that 
case, you use slashes: Manuel de /Mello/. I don't remember which genealogy 
program you have to do that with. Maybe an older one?

 

Legacy asks for Given and Surnames:



 

RootsMagic asks for Given and Surnames:



 

I don't have Family Tree Maker installed on this computer and I'm not a Mac 
user, so I don't know what the Add a Person field looks like there.

 

Liz, Rick and I are "TMG Refugees." Our program (The Master Genealogist, aka 
TMG) is no longer published. A couple of guys in Australia are supposed to be 
working on a replacement for it (it's been 5 years already)!!!

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

 

 

On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 9:37 AM Liz Migliori mailto:lizmi...@gmail.com> > wrote:

What is that program

Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 18, 2019, at 7:14 AM, Richard Francis Pimentel 
mailto:richard.francis.pimen...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:

This is the method I use and suggest. My Genealogy program allows me to enter 
other names such as AKA. That way I can enter the first name and the de, do, da 
dos as the first name and the just the last name under the last name. I can 
also enter an AKA name with the last name with the de, do, dos, da  that way I 
can search both ways I can look for “Mello or de Mello” both will be there. 
This program is great also for the never ending name change that woman have You 
have a woman using Maria de Jesus in one record, Maria da Conceicao in another 
and Maria Soares in yet another All name will be in the search list.  As Cheri 
said use a top line stand alone genealogy program as you cannot do this in the 
on-line programs.

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

 

 

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Bertoni
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 1:46 AM
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Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Alphabetizing Portuguese Surnames

 

I use FTM and just make the de, do, da, etc. part of their first name this way 
it's still there but I don't have to remember how I entered each person as.

 

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mailto:azores@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

Thanks. That is what I thought. I use Family Tree Maker. 

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Alphabetizing Portuguese Surnames

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This is the method I use and suggest. My Genealogy program allows me to enter 
other names such as AKA. That way I can enter the first name and the de, do, da 
dos as the first name and the just the last name under the last name. I can 
also enter an AKA name with the last name with the de, do, dos, da  that way I 
can search both ways I can look for “Mello or de Mello” both will be there. 
This program is great also for the never ending name change that woman have You 
have a woman using Maria de Jesus in one record, Maria da Conceicao in another 
and Maria Soares in yet another All name will be in the search list.  As Cheri 
said use a top line stand alone genealogy program as you cannot do this in the 
on-line programs.

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

 

 

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Bertoni
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 1:46 AM
To: Azores Genealogy 
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Alphabetizing Portuguese Surnames

 

I use FTM and just make the de, do, da, etc. part of their first name this way 
it's still there but I don't have to remember how I entered each person as.

 

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Thanks. That is what I thought. I use Family Tree Maker. 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] DNA testing the Deceased

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

This is about DNA testing the Deceased. It can be done if you really want to
test. 

 

https://dna-explained.com/2019/06/14/dna-testing-the-recently-deceased/ 

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need Advice

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

Any of the Baptismal records of her children should have her parish if they 
were born in the Acores. If she was married in the Acores that record will also 
have the parish where she was born.

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

 

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Analytic 
Advantage
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2019 10:51 AM
To: Azores Genealogy 
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need Advice

 

Hey all.  I've been pouring over Sao Jorge confession rolls, and I have a 
decent amount of information about my great grandmother.  However, it appears 
she was born either on another island, or town (In case I overlooked it).  She 
did not appear on documents in Sao Jorge(Urzelina) until 1927, when she had a 
son.  Whats the best and most efficient way to begin tracking down what island 
she was born?

 

Information: (some of this may be wrong)

 

Maria De Lordes Dias

Born June 5? 1906, location unknown.  Death unknown (Urzelina)

Parents: Josefina & Manuel Jorge Dias, birth and death dates unknown.  Unable 
to find in Urzelina confession rolls.

Children:  Helena, Laurentino, Fernando Jorge, Raul (alive), Ilda Lucilla 
(alive)

Siblings (the weakest information): Manuel, Jose, Americo, Artesia

Moved to Urzelina in 1926/1927

 

This is the biggest fish in my pond, so ANY information would be amazing.  I 
appreciate any response.

 

- Brian 

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Ancestry.com has Boston (MA) Diocese INDEX

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

New Bedford is part of the Fall River Diocese which is not being done.

Rick

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Elaine 
Mello
Sent: Saturday, April 6, 2019 5:39 PM
To: Azores Genealogy 
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Ancestry.com has Boston (MA) Diocese INDEX

 

The New England Historic Genealogical Society (NEHGS) has been scanning these 
documents for a while now, and members of that organization can access the 
records through their site 
https://www.americanancestors.org/search/databasesearch/2726/massachusetts-roman-catholic-archdiocese-of-boston-records-1789-1900.
 You can search without being a member, but won't get to the detailed records - 
not sure if the free guest membership will allow access, but people can 
certainly try it.

 

I've been doing some digging there for the Irish half of my family, but have 
been waiting for release of information from the Ned Bedford area to see what I 
could find.  i'm not sure what their model is for which records they scan, 
though.

 

Elaine 

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with baby's name

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

Goncalo has it right Teresa and the month is March (marco)

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

 

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Luis Arruda
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2019 6:45 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with baby's name

 

I see Thereza...as for the month..sorry...cant make it out

Luis 

 

On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 5:02 PM mailto:leonor.bert...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Can someone make out this baby's name? I see parents Jacinto da Costa & Rosa de 
Jesus, pats - Joao da Costa & Ritta da Conceicao, mats - Francisco Tavares & 
Margarida de Jesus. Birth month March? Or May?

 

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1815-1823/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1815-1823_item1/P293.html

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Marianna - Baptism?

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

Yes, it does say slave of. This baptism is not of an infant but an adult.

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

 

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
leonor.bert...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2019 4:04 PM
To: Azores Genealogy 
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Marianna - Baptism?

 

This is not my ancestor but I'm curious as to what it means. I see this as a 
baptism for Marianna (bottom of the page), instead of daughter of, I think I 
see "escrava de", "slave of" is that correct? And does this say that the priest 
had to get special permission to perform this baptism? Any idea if this would 
have been a baby or an adult?

 

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1815-1823/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1815-1823_item1/P99.html

 

TIA

Leonor

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Surnames: Barros vs Bairos (Vila do Porto, Santa Maria)

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

Both are  a different name in Guill’s book. I would enter them as such unless I 
find them different in other records.

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

 

 

From: 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy  
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2019 1:16 PM
To: genealogy 
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Surnames: Barros vs Bairos (Vila do Porto, Santa 
Maria)

 

Good morning everyone;  I’m looking for opinions/knowledge here.  In the record 
below, right side, the father’s name looks to be to be “Barros” and the 
paternal grandfather looks like “Bairos”  is this just a typical difference of 
surname or did the pries get sloppy when writing Barros?

 

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1870-1879/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1870-1879_item1/P47.html
 

 

Thanks everyone,

 

Sam (Mazatlán, MX)

 

 


 
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Age of Padrinho

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

The Catholic Church requires the God Parent to be a practicing Catholic who has 
received the Sacrament of Confirmation. The Bishop having jurisdiction sets the 
age at which one can be a God Parent. Currently, in the United States, the age 
is 16 years old. The age at a different time in the Acores could very well have 
been lower. Much would depend on when a person was confirmed which was 
generally around 12 or 13. So to answer the question it is possible for a 13 
year old to be named a Godparent.

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

 

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cheri Mello
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2019 4:14 PM
To: Azores Genealogy 
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Age of Padrinho

 

I don't know of a minimum age, but I've seen a 13 year old. I don't remember 
ever seeing a 5 year old. If someone has one, I am sure they will speak up. 
Cheri

 

On Mar 24, 2019 3:11 PM, "Ângela Loura" mailto:angelalo...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Yes, that's possible.

 

mailto:bsei2...@gmail.com> > escreveu no dia domingo, 
24/03/2019 à(s) 19:45:

Is there a minimum age for a Padrinho. 

 

The record shows the padrinho is the son of the baptized baby's father (the 
baby's half-brother).  

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-MANADAS-B-1844-1860/SJR-VL-MANADAS-B-1844-1860_item1/P83.html

 

I just found this boy's baptism and he would have just turned 13 years old 
(born March 1841) when becoming padrinho to his half-sister.

 

Bill Seidler

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Assistance with Maria do Sacramento MATEUS

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

The mother is Maria da Sacramento.

The paternal Grandparents are Unknown

The maternal Grandparents are Joao Matheus de Oliveira and Francisca de Jesus.

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

 

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Luis Arruda
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2019 7:18 PM
To: Azores Genealogy 
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Assistance with Maria do Sacramento MATEUS

 

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-B-1880-1889/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-B-1880-1889_item1/P257.html

Right side of page - No. 42 ( Scotch tape visible)

 

I am having difficulty with the following baptismal record. Was Maria born on 
the 9th of May 1886 or baptised on that day. I believe her parents are Antao da 
Camara and Maria do Sacramento ( is is Sacramento or Livramento?).

Can anyone identify her grandparents? 

Any help with names would be greatly appreciated.

This woman is my paternal grandmother, whom we believe died in 1924 or 25.

Thanks everyone

Luis Arruda

 

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Names (Santa Maria)

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

Sam, Yes I have noticed that. I kind of think the bride sometimes took her 
mother in law’s name as a means to be accepted into the family better. 

 

Rick

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From: 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy  
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2019 12:46 PM
To: genealogy 
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Names (Santa Maria)

 

Hello all;  Has anyone else noticed how very, very often the names of the bride 
and or of the mother’s in law are exactly the same?  i.e. Bernardina Jacintha, 
Anna Filomena, etc.  Record after record, though not all of them of course, 
have the bride and her mother with exactly the same name and sometimes all 
three women in the record have the same name.  It just makes me worry that the 
priest has been “tippling” the vino…I know certain names were very common 
but; it seems to be more than that….

 

Just wondering…

 

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Simiao Joaquim de AGUIAR 1870s Brazil from Azores

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

I have seen a few Aguiar’s in Sao Miguel, Bretanha and Ponta Delgada.

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

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Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

 

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
JesseAndDeborah Mendonca
Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2019 10:26 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Simiao Joaquim de AGUIAR 1870s Brazil from Azores

 

Surnames: AGUIAR, de JESUS, MENDONCA

 

Joao Joaquim de MENDONCA married Anna de JESUS de AGUIAR. The event took place 
on 19 Dec 1898.  The record is in Brazil marriages:  

São Bento, Araraquara, São Paulo, Brazil   

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XN21-QZW 

 

 

The bride’s father was Simiao Joaquim de AGUIAR and her mother was Anna de 
JESUS, with no other surname (Simiao is a rare first name).   I have been 
tracing Simiao de AGUIAR back and cannot find a Brazil birth or passport record 
with his name.  I have had limited possibilities of AGUIAR found in Santana, 
Madeira and in Sao Miguel.  

 

Any suggestions would be appreciated.  

 

Debbie Shepherd Mendonca

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Birth information

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

Just a couple of thoughts when applying dates.

 

When you have a baptism date and you want to apply a birth date it is more 
appropriate to use “about” or “circa”.  That generally means the date is close 
to that date and by adding a note the date is based on the baptism.   The more 
complete date you use with the term “about” or “circa” the more precise it is. 
Consider these two dates: “abt 1828” and “abt 2 Mar 1828”. The latter has a 
more precise meaning. The use of “before” is open-ended and could mean a few 
days to years.  I generally use the term “before” when I encounter a person 
named as deceased as in a marriage or baptismal record, you know the person 
died but you do not know if it was the day before or ten years before.

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

 

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cheri Mello
Sent: Saturday, March 9, 2019 12:41 AM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Birth information

 

Legacy (v. 9) has a Christening event/tag. RootsMagic has a Baptism 
event/tag/fact. I don't know what Family Tree Maker has. Or Reunion. Since a 
couple of them have a baptism or christening, I would think that the others do 
too. It's a workaround. Or the "about" or "circa" or "before" as well. 


Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

 

 

On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 9:00 PM JR  wrote:

Yes, the problem is most genealogy programs do not allow users to create a 
primary field that is not a 'birthdate'. I use the same about field/designation 
you just outlined. Since the 'abt' (about) date is exact, it makes the reader 
wonder why the author would use an exact date and still use the approximation 
designation in the birthdate field. The reader is then forced to turn to the 
notes section and/or, 'other events' fields for the answer. It works for me. 
And if I was writing a booklet about my Portuguese ancestry, I would simply put 
an explanation in the forward or index, to that effect.

 

JR


On Friday, March 8, 2019 at 9:52:25 PM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote:

Hi Walt,

 

My genealogy program has a Baptism tag (some program calls them events). So I 
enter the baptism date into the baptism field and leave it at that. The first 
time period doesn't record the birth dates. Cheri

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

 

 

On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 6:20 PM Comcast  wrote:

I usually put Bef mar 25, 1678.  Then at know to look before that date.

 

 


On Mar 8, 2019, at 5:50 PM, Walter Teixeira  wrote:

Cheri,

 

I know you must have this information at the tip of your tongue and it would 
take me a lot longer to try and find it in one of your helping aids.  During 
the time period where the birth date is not given in the baptism record and you 
only have the baptism date, what do most people do about the birth date?  

Example:

Baptism Date: 25 March 1678

Birth Date: about 25 March 1678or  about March 1678

 

Thanks,

 

Walt

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name patterns in genealogy programs

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

I had to go back and correct over 2000 names several years ago. Today I am up 
to 8200. It took me several weeks to make corrections but eventually, I had it 
done.

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

 

 

 

From: 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Saturday, March 2, 2019 1:34 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name patterns in genealogy programs

 

Thanks Rick.   So many things I should have paid closer attention to when I 
first started using my genealogy program.

 

Sam (Mazatlán, MX)

 

From: Richard Francis Pimentel <mailto:richard.francis.pimen...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Saturday, March 2, 2019 11:16 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name patterns in genealogy programs

 

Something else I thought of this morning is that if you have a person like 
“Maria de Jesus” and no last name you enter “Maria de Jesus   
\\”  the program would then leave the last name blank otherwise it would 
arbitrarily assign “Jesus” as the last name. You can try entering names in 
different ways and then check on how everything sorts when you do a search.

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

 

 

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cheri Mello
Sent: Friday, March 1, 2019 7:18 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name patterns in genealogy programs

 

I believe Rick is correct. I'm not a FTM user, but I don't think that program 
asks for Given Names and then Last Name. I think it just asks for Name and does 
the American thing of assuming the very last name is the surname. It doesn't 
work that way in all countries. 


Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

 

 

On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 4:07 PM Richard Francis Pimentel 
 wrote:

That is the same method I use in TMG. Sorting and searching by last name is 
much easier without the de’s, da’s, do’s, and dos’s, and of course it prints 
out in the right order.  In FTM the last time I used it you had to use I think 
back-slashes at each end of the last name for example: Maria da Gloria de 
\Sousa\.  Then the program would treat  Sousa as the last name 

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

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Rosemarie Capodicci
Sent: Friday, March 1, 2019 6:32 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name patterns in genealogy programs

 

Sam,

I use Legacy but when I am in the "Given " name field, I write it as Maria da 
Gloria de and then Sousa in the "Surname" Field. When it prints out it comes 
out Maria da Gloria de Sousa all in a row. I would think that FTM does the 
same? 

 

Rosemarie 

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Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,

Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

 

 

On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 3:02 PM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy 
 wrote:

Hi all;  I’ve been trying to see if I can follow Cheri’s procedure in my 
familytreemaker program.  That is First name/names followed by de/da/do and 
surname only in surname field.  So far, I only see one space for inputting the 
name and it is for the full name.  Am I missing something?  Is there a work 
around?

 

Thanks all,

 

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] July 1900 disaster Santa Maria?

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

I would agree with what others have suggested in that some sort of illness was 
going around. Remember this is the time before immunizations and drugs which we 
have today. So when we get something today it is no big deal. I have come 
across many records where several members of the same family would die within a 
short period of time. Young children seem to be the most vulnerable to an 
illness.

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

 

 

 

From: 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 1, 2019 7:51 PM
To: genealogy
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] July 1900 disaster Santa Maria?

 

I’m doing obits right now and I have two siblings, one 11 months and the other 
15 days old that died 9 days apart in July of 1900. (July 20 and 29th)  So sad. 
 Out of curiosity, does anyone know of some disaster that occurred around that 
time on Santa Maria island?  Sickness, earthquake, ??

 

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name patterns in genealogy programs

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

That is the same method I use in TMG. Sorting and searching by last name is 
much easier without the de’s, da’s, do’s, and dos’s, and of course it prints 
out in the right order.  In FTM the last time I used it you had to use I think 
back-slashes at each end of the last name for example: Maria da Gloria de 
\Sousa\.  Then the program would treat  Sousa as the last name 

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rosemarie Capodicci
Sent: Friday, March 1, 2019 6:32 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name patterns in genealogy programs

 

Sam,

I use Legacy but when I am in the "Given " name field, I write it as Maria da 
Gloria de and then Sousa in the "Surname" Field. When it prints out it comes 
out Maria da Gloria de Sousa all in a row. I would think that FTM does the 
same? 

 

Rosemarie 

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Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,

Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

 

 

On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 3:02 PM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy 
 wrote:

Hi all;  I’ve been trying to see if I can follow Cheri’s procedure in my 
familytreemaker program.  That is First name/names followed by de/da/do and 
surname only in surname field.  So far, I only see one space for inputting the 
name and it is for the full name.  Am I missing something?  Is there a work 
around?

 

Thanks all,

 

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with maternal grandfather’s name

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

I read  Manual Pacheco Tarrabagana. I would say it is not a very flattering 
alcunha.

Rick
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From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2019 3:09 AM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with maternal grandfather’s name

Hi! Record No. 33, maternal grandfather's name, I can make out Manoel Pacheco, 
but the last name looks like Tarrabazana, I have searched it on google but 
nothing comes up. Anyone? If it is Tarrabazana, does anyone know anything about 
this name?


http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1889-1897/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1889-1897_item1/P172.html

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Records

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

The record is from Nossa Senhora da Estrela in Ribeira Grande.  Calhetas do not 
go back that far. What time period do you want to search? I would look in Rabo 
de Pexie for earlier records.

Rick

 

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Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 7:04 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Records

 

Ok Thanks, but do I have the right village or is that unclear?

 

Bob Camacho
Researching the Island of Terceira for
da Costa, Evangelho, Pacheco, Ferriera
Researching the Island of Graciosa for
Reis
Researching the Island of Madeira for
Camacho
Researching Brazil for
Evangelho

 

 

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From: Richard Francis Pimentel <mailto:richard.francis.pimen...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 3:36 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Records

 

Hi Bob, I can’t make all of it but what I see is October 1562  Manuel and Maria 
children of Simao Travares and Maria (?).

 

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

 

 

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Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 12:19 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Records

 

Hi Everyone.  This might sounds like I am fishing but, I am not sure of the 
record I have found.  This is should be records for village of Calhetas, St. 
Miguel Island.  From what I can see the recorded is from 1562 and is for 
Manuel.  I am looking for a Manuel Dias Monteiro.  Since the records are very 
hard for me to understand, I am not sure if I am on the right track or not.  
The item I am looking at is on the left page middle

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-B-1541-1563/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-B-1541-1563_item1/P180.html

 

 

Thank you for the information and help

Bob Camacho

 

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help uploading gedcom to ftdna

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

Sam, If you have carefully checked the dropdown and your sister name is not in 
the dropdown then you need to make sure she is in the GEDCOM file you used to 
upload the tree. This will involve making a new GEDCOM and uploading again. If 
you are still having problems then you can send the GEDCOM to one of us at our 
private email address and we will see what we can do. 

 

Rick

Family Tree DNA Co-Administrator
Azores DNA Project

  

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All unpaid volunteers 

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Rick Pimentel – richard.francis.pimen...@gmail.com 

 

 

 

 

 

From: 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2019 9:25 PM
To: genealogy
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help uploading gedcom to ftdna

 

Cheri;  I’m trying to upload my family tree for one of my sisters to FTDNA.  It 
says it is uploaded and asks me to indicate whose tree it is 

but; it doesn't show my sister's name either with the drop down list or when I 
click on search for the name.  What am

I doing wrong??

 

I originally had my sister’s  name as Lucille Jeronimo, which was her married 
name and I changed it to Lucille Coelho, maiden name but; neither

one shows up when I tried to do the upload.

 

Thanks in advance for your help,

 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Assistance with Helena SIMAO born 19 Feb 1898

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

Sorry the birth date is 19 Feb 1898.


On Monday, January 21, 2019 at 12:18:50 PM UTC-5, Richard Frances Pimentel 
wrote:
>
> *Here is the birth record  
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-B-1890-1899/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-B-1890-1899_item1/P231.html
>  
> <http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-B-1890-1899/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-B-1890-1899_item1/P231.html>*
>
>  
>
> *The parents are Antonio da Costa Simao and Maria Julia.  Paternal 
> grandparents Francisco da Costa Simao and Maria de Jesus, Maternal 
> grandparents Alberto do Correia and Francisca Thomasica Born 18 Jan 1898 
> and baptized 22 Feb 1898.*
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *Rick*
>
> *Richard Francis Pimentel*
>
> *Epping, NH*
>
>  
>
> *Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and 
> Ponta Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores*
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *From:* azo...@googlegroups.com  [mailto:
> azo...@googlegroups.com ] *On Behalf Of *Cheri Mello
> *Sent:* Monday, January 21, 2019 11:41 AM
> *To:* Azores Genealogy
> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Assistance with Helena SIMAO born 19 
> Feb 1898
>
>  
>
> Hi Luis A,
>
>  
>
> Yes, look at the year before and the year after her alleged birth/baptism. 
> And if that doesn't work, go back another year (1898) and forward another 
> year (1901). Our immigrant ancestors weren't always accurate with their 
> birth dates. Good luck,
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>  
>
>  
>
> On Mon, Jan 21, 2019 at 8:38 AM Luis Arruda  > wrote:
>
> Ladies and Gentlemen,
>
> I am trying to locate the birth document of my maternal grandmother whom 
> as born at Ajuda Bretanaha in February of 1898 - I am looking into the 
> bapstism records at the Egreja da Nossa Senhora at Ajuda, Bretanaha, Ponta 
> Delgada Sao Miguel, hoping to identify her birth, parents etc. However I 
> have checked the whole year 1898 and cannot locate her baptism. I assume 
> children back then were likely baptised shortly after birth. Is this 
> correct? Should I look in 1899 and perhaps 1900?
>
> Thanking everyone in advance
>
> Luis Henrique Arruda
>
> Hamilton, ON
>
> Canada
>
>  
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Assistance with Helena SIMAO born 19 Feb 1898

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

It is record #16 on the left.

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

 

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cheri Mello
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2019 11:41 AM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Assistance with Helena SIMAO born 19 Feb 1898

 

Hi Luis A,

 

Yes, look at the year before and the year after her alleged birth/baptism. And 
if that doesn't work, go back another year (1898) and forward another year 
(1901). Our immigrant ancestors weren't always accurate with their birth dates. 
Good luck,

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

 

 

On Mon, Jan 21, 2019 at 8:38 AM Luis Arruda  wrote:

Ladies and Gentlemen,

I am trying to locate the birth document of my maternal grandmother whom as 
born at Ajuda Bretanaha in February of 1898 - I am looking into the bapstism 
records at the Egreja da Nossa Senhora at Ajuda, Bretanaha, Ponta Delgada Sao 
Miguel, hoping to identify her birth, parents etc. However I have checked the 
whole year 1898 and cannot locate her baptism. I assume children back then were 
likely baptised shortly after birth. Is this correct? Should I look in 1899 and 
perhaps 1900?

Thanking everyone in advance

Luis Henrique Arruda

Hamilton, ON

Canada

 

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Assistance with Helena SIMAO born 19 Feb 1898

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

Here is the birth record  
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-B-1890-1899/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-B-1890-1899_item1/P231.html

 

The parents are Antonio da Costa Simao and Maria Julia.  Paternal grandparents 
Francisco da Costa Simao and Maria de Jesus, Maternal grandparents Alberto do 
Correia and Francisca Thomasica Born 18 Jan 1898 and baptized 22 Feb 1898.

 

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cheri Mello
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2019 11:41 AM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Assistance with Helena SIMAO born 19 Feb 1898

 

Hi Luis A,

 

Yes, look at the year before and the year after her alleged birth/baptism. And 
if that doesn't work, go back another year (1898) and forward another year 
(1901). Our immigrant ancestors weren't always accurate with their birth dates. 
Good luck,

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

 

 

On Mon, Jan 21, 2019 at 8:38 AM Luis Arruda  wrote:

Ladies and Gentlemen,

I am trying to locate the birth document of my maternal grandmother whom as 
born at Ajuda Bretanaha in February of 1898 - I am looking into the bapstism 
records at the Egreja da Nossa Senhora at Ajuda, Bretanaha, Ponta Delgada Sao 
Miguel, hoping to identify her birth, parents etc. However I have checked the 
whole year 1898 and cannot locate her baptism. I assume children back then were 
likely baptised shortly after birth. Is this correct? Should I look in 1899 and 
perhaps 1900?

Thanking everyone in advance

Luis Henrique Arruda

Hamilton, ON

Canada

 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Unusual Baptism NS Estrella 1811

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

Hi I just thought I would share this baptism. It is for an adult slave under
the condition that he was not baptized before.

 

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-B-1810-1
814/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-B-1810-1814_item1/P30.html  upper left side.

 

Rick

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] CCA is down

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

I just checked at Tombo and they cannot connect with CCA as well. Looks like it 
is down for the rest of the weekend.

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

 

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Evee Silva Kiler
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2019 1:22 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] CCA is down

 

Obrigada

On Sunday, January 13, 2019 at 11:15:38 AM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:

You can check through Tombo.pt at status.tombo.pt. It's reading that it's up. 
However, his Status thing seems to be having difficulties. I've emailed him 
about that. Cheri


Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

 

 

On Sun, Jan 13, 2019 at 10:06 AM Evee Silva Kiler  > wrote:

Thanks, Cheri.  I sent them an e-mail.  I checked to see if others were having 
problems before reaching out to them.  EJK

On Sunday, January 13, 2019 at 10:34:46 AM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:

I think it went down last night, about 15 minutes after Sandra posted.

 

Email them at drac...@azores.gov.pt  . Let them know what a 
wonderful service they provide with the online records, then let them know it 
went down.

They need to hear from someone else besides me. We don't want them to think 
there's only 1 American using their online records.  Cheri

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

 

 

On Sun, Jan 13, 2019 at 9:26 AM Richard Francis Pimentel 
 > wrote:

Looks like CCA is down today L.

 

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] CCA is down

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

Looks like CCA is down today L.

 

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

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Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

 

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Margin Note Ribeirinha 1900 baptism

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

Thank You Margaret,

It all makes sense. I think I had most of it. It was the bride’s name that was 
giving me the difficulty.

Rick

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Margaret Vicente
Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2019 11:59 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Margin Note Ribeirinha 1900 baptism

 

Correction to first name at a second glace the first letter seems to be a “D” 
for Ducinda?

 

 

 

Margaret

 

From: Cheri Mello <mailto:gfsche...@gmail.com> 
Sent: January 7, 2019 3:44 PM
To: Azores Genealogy <mailto:azores@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Margin Note Ribeirinha 1900 baptism

 

I have no clue as the 2nd name of the wife. The writing is a cross between 
print and cursive and rather "bubbly." Makes it hard to read, especially when 
squished.

 

I see the marriage date of 10 Nov 1923. I think he died 28 Jan 1979. Compare 
that 1 (looks like a cursive lower case "L") with some of the other 1s in that 
column. The 1s are written 2 different ways. Also the 9s. Some of the 9s are 
closed loop and some are not.

 

I think the 3rd note says he married under the name of Domingos Pimentel, but 
you probably got that part.

 

Hopefully someone else can get the bride's 2nd name.

 

 

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

 

 

On Sun, Jan 6, 2019 at 6:23 PM Richard Francis Pimentel 
 wrote:

Hi, I can make out some of this, in the first note, it looks like he married 10 
Nov 1923. I see a name which looks like Dores ……….?In the second note, it 
says he died 28 Apr 1975. In Calheta, Sao Jorge.

 

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RIBEIRINHA-B-1900-1905/SMG-RG-RIBEIRINHA-B-1900-1905_item1/P49.html
 

 

I just need to know if I have the event and dates correct and the name of the 
birde.

 

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Margin Note Ribeirinha 1900 baptism

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

Hi, I can make out some of this, in the first note, it looks like he married
10 Nov 1923. I see a name which looks like Dores ?In the second
note, it says he died 28 Apr 1975. In Calheta, Sao Jorge.

 

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RIBEIRINHA-B-190
0-1905/SMG-RG-RIBEIRINHA-B-1900-1905_item1/P49.html 

 

I just need to know if I have the event and dates correct and the name of
the birde.

 

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

 

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptism of Augusto, Rabo de Peixe, S. Miguel 1875

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

Bill, you need to attach the link to the image.

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

 

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
bsei2...@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 1:55 AM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptism of Augusto, Rabo de Peixe, S. Miguel 1875

 

I need some help with this very faint record.  I believe the baptism date is 24 
Sep 1875 and that he was born at 3am the same day; line 8: dia supra indicado 
(= date indicated above?)

 

Also would like to confirm that the maternal grandparents are Manuel da Souza 
???(name or occupation?) and Maria da Trinidade.

 

Thanks for any help.

Bill Seidler

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA Sale extended through Saturday, January 3rd, 11:59 pm PST

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

No, it is Thursday now that I have had two cups of coffee and am half awake.

 

Rick

 

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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA Sale extended through Saturday, 
January 3rd, 11:59 pm PST

 

(Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and IslandRoutes lists).

 

Family Tree DNA extended the holiday sale through Saturday, January 3rd, at 
11:59 p.m. PST.

 

If you are ordering a different type of DNA test, log into that kit and order 
an upgrade.

 

If you are new to DNA testing, order through one of the links below.

Azores: https://goo.gl/dtAs4j 

Madeira: https://goo.gl/JVBLJV 

Cape Verde: https://goo.gl/eYWXXw 

 

If you don't have a specific genealogy problem to solve and are just getting 
into DNA, order the Family Finder test (on sale for $49 USD + $12.95 S).

 

Any questions, please ask away!

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA Sale extended through Saturday, January 3rd, 11:59 pm PST

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

January 3rd is Friday.

 

 

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To: Azores Genealogy; madeira-geneal...@googlegroups.com; 
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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA Sale extended through Saturday, 
January 3rd, 11:59 pm PST

 

(Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and IslandRoutes lists).

 

Family Tree DNA extended the holiday sale through Saturday, January 3rd, at 
11:59 p.m. PST.

 

If you are ordering a different type of DNA test, log into that kit and order 
an upgrade.

 

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Margin note in Ribeira Quente, Sao Miguel island

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

I agree a marriage date of 1921 would make more sense. That 1981 date is 
definitely wrong.

Rick

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cheri Mello
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 6:05 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Margin note in Ribeira Quente, Sao Miguel island

 

Roza, #17 on the right:

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-RIBEIRAQUENTE-B-1890-1899/SMG-PV-RIBEIRAQUENTE-B-1890-1899_item1/P159.html

 

She's born in 1896. Her daughter, still living, was born in the mid-1930s. She 
is a legitimate birth.

 

Note 1: Rosa married Francisco de Medeiros Melo (correct) in 1981?!?!?!  But 
the note was made in 1968. That does say 1981, right?

 

Note 2: Says Francisco the husband died in 1963 (kinda hard to do if he didn't 
marry her until 1981) but then I *think* they correct the marriage date in Note 
1 to the year 1921. 

 

Am I reading that correctly?

Thanks,

Cheri Mello
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Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Merry Christmas / Feliz Natal / Boas Festas thread (Send greetings here)

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

To all of our group as together, we share our brick walls and open our closed 
doors (hopefully not closet doors with skeletons) a big thank you and a Merry 
Christmas and a Happy New Year.

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

 

 

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Sent: Monday, December 24, 2018 1:01 AM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Merry Christmas / Feliz Natal / Boas Festas thread 
(Send greetings here)

 

Merry Christmas! Feliz Natal! Boas Festas!

 

If you would like to participant in wishing the list Merry Christmas, please 
respond to this thread by hitting Reply or responding to this thread.

 

You may send your greetings through Dec. 25th, at 11:59 pm in your time zone. 
That's 48 hours (or a little more due to the various time zones) to send your 
greetings.

E um próspero ano novo!

Cheri Mello
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Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Maia, Sao Miguel-Baptism record help

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

I am seeing the same. They are both from Nossa Senhora Mae de Deus in the Lugar 
of Povoacao.  

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

 

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Joseph Mendonca
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 7:15 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Maia, Sao Miguel-Baptism record help

 

I need a 2nd set of eyes.  Right page, top record for Manuel. I'm not sure 
where the parents are from.  I believe it says "N. Sra. Mae de Deus do lugar da 
Povoacao" starting at the end of the first line onto the second line.  And for 
the mother "natural da dita freguesia do lugar da Povoacao" on the third line.


 

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-MAIA-B-1731-1743/SMG-RG-MAIA-B-1731-1743_item1/P55.html

 

Thank you,

 

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Obituary Translation

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

I see 70 years old At the end of line 9.

Rick

 

From: 'Bill Boyd' via Azores Genealogy [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 1:36 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Obituary Translation

 

Thank you Cheri!

 

I’ll have to search for a second marriage for Anna. The age would help my 
confidence in having the correct person. 

 

Cheers,

Bill


On Dec 23, 2018, at 10:24 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

The writing is clear, but he writes really small. I'm not sure what the age is. 
I can make it be a couple of different things.

 

Anna was the widow (viuvo) of Manuel Espinola da Veiga. He offsets the word 
viuvo with commas in the body and the margin:

 



 

Hope someone else can definitively say her age.  Cheri

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

 

 

On Sun, Dec 23, 2018 at 10:12 AM 'Bill Boyd' via Azores Genealogy 
 wrote:

Merry Christmas everyone!

 

I could use a little help with the obituary translation.

 

>From family genealogy:

Subject: Ana Tomásia do Conde

Parents: Teodósio José do Conde and Maria de Mello Pacheco

Birth: 25 Jul 1823

Location: Guadalupe, Santa Cruz da Graciosa, Ilha da Graciosa, Açores, Portugal

Husband: José Espínola de Ataíde (b. 1795, d. 1868)

 

Obituary (attached with modified/annotated and original):

Link: 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GRA-SC-GUADALUPE-O-1895-1900/GRA-SC-GUADALUPE-O-1895-1900_item1/P28.html

(upper left, No. 4)

Subject: Anna Tomásia do Conde

Death: 15 Jun 1896

Location: Caminho da Igreja, Guadalupe, Santa Cruz da Graciosa, Ilha da 
Graciosa, Açores, Portugal

Living with?: Manoel Espínola da Veiga

Parents: Teodósio do Conde and Maria de Mello

 

Questions:

1. Since her husband had already passed, is Anna "living with" Manoel?

 

2. I cannot make our her age at death.  Should be 72-73 by the information 
above, but I just can't make it out in the record.

 

Thanks in advance!

 

Bill

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Furtado Duque ancestors from Matriz Vila Franca, or Ponta Garca on S.Miguel Isl-Help to read names

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

Ok I see the Botelho and Araujo, de funta looks more like de funtos to me, but 
then again I am not used to this writers style.

Rick

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of JR
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 10:13 AM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Furtado Duque ancestors from Matriz Vila 
Franca, or Ponta Garca on S.Miguel Isl-Help to read names

 

Have this line will send when I fix files.

 

Casamento de NS da Piedade, Ponta Garca, page 83 verso, second record on page;

Feb 22- 1718, Joao da Costa [Duque] filho de Manoel da Costa Duque e sua mulher 
Maria da Costa, ja defunta, baptizado e dsiobrigado na parochial de NS Senhora 
da Piedade de lugar de Ponta Garca com Thereza de Mideiros filha de Manoel 
Botelho e de sua mulher Catharina de Araujo, ja defunta, baptizada e 
disobrigada a carysma passada na Matriz de Sam Miguel donde sem freguezes; 
Test- Capt Jozeph Pacheco da Camara e Joao Pacheco Pimentel.

 

JR


On Wednesday, December 19, 2018 at 8:53:07 AM UTC-5, Richard Frances Pimentel 
wrote:

This is a tough one, I see the date 22 Feb 1718,  Jose da Costa son of Manual 
da Costa ……… and his wife Maria da Costa both deceased baptized NS Graca 
(Piedade) to Theresa de Medeiros daughter of Manuel Carvalho and Catherina de 
Jesus both deceased. I would like to see what others see.

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

 

 

 

From: azo...@googlegroups.com   [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com 
 ] On Behalf Of Terri Santos
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 11:39 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Furtado Duque ancestors from Matriz Vila Franca, or 
Ponta Garca on S.Miguel Isl-Help to read names

 

I am working on finding ancestors for my cousins family tree as my Xmas gift to 
them.  I think I've got almost as far back as i can with these names. I've 
gotten better at reading these documents, but am having a hard time reading 
this one to determine if I have the right names and place to continue 
searching...left page...

 

Joao? da Costa son of Manuel? da Costa Duque and Maria da Costa ( of Ponta 
Garca, Vila Franca do Campo)

 

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1705-1743/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1705-1743_item1/P87.html

 

Looking for confirmation...

Please and thank you,

Terri Santos

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Furtado Duque ancestors from Matriz Vila Franca, or Ponta Garca on S.Miguel Isl-Help to read names

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

This is a tough one, I see the date 22 Feb 1718,  Jose da Costa son of Manual 
da Costa ……… and his wife Maria da Costa both deceased baptized NS Graca 
(Piedade) to Theresa de Medeiros daughter of Manuel Carvalho and Catherina de 
Jesus both deceased. I would like to see what others see.

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

 

 

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Terri Santos
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 11:39 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Furtado Duque ancestors from Matriz Vila Franca, or 
Ponta Garca on S.Miguel Isl-Help to read names

 

I am working on finding ancestors for my cousins family tree as my Xmas gift to 
them.  I think I've got almost as far back as i can with these names. I've 
gotten better at reading these documents, but am having a hard time reading 
this one to determine if I have the right names and place to continue 
searching...left page...

 

Joao? da Costa son of Manuel? da Costa Duque and Maria da Costa ( of Ponta 
Garca, Vila Franca do Campo)

 

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1705-1743/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1705-1743_item1/P87.html

 

Looking for confirmation...

Please and thank you,

Terri Santos

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA Testing differences

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

Glad you got it resolved.

Rick

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. 
Stringer
Sent: Monday, December 3, 2018 7:31 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA Testing differences

 

I did go ahead and upload the Ancestry results to My Heritage.  Received the 
results today, and there are some interesting differences.

 

There was no problem with the upload process for a 2nd/subsequent set of 
results.

This time, followed the instructions for Ancestry instead of FTDNA. Said they 
were for me.  

Each set of results shows under my profile, and I can select viewing by either 
one of them.

 

FTDNA

Family Finder  1,066 matches

 

Ancestry ? matches (have never found the information on the 
site)

 

My Heritage uploads from

FTDNA   2,927 matches, 12 ethnicities 

 

Ancestry 1,876 matches, 10 ethnicities

 

 

 

 

Marsha Stringer

strin...@mstringer.net

 

 

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Transferring your DNA to My HeritageDNAbefore December 1

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

I am not sure about that but you can try all that could happen is you get a 
message that it has already been uploaded.

Rick

 

 

From: 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 11:41 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Transferring your DNA to My 
HeritageDNAbefore December 1

 

Rick;  Since I got that message when I uploaded my sister’s raw data, do you 
know if I can uploaded it again? Will a second upload over-ride the first?  I’m 
thinking you could be right and I may have clicked on the wrong download when I 
did it the first time.

 

Thanks,

 

Sam (Mazatlán, MX)

 

From: Richard Francis Pimentel <mailto:richard.francis.pimen...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 9:28 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Transferring your DNA to My 
HeritageDNAbefore December 1

 

Sam, I just did mine this morning and had no problems.   I first downloaded my 
DNA from Family Tree DNA. You want to download Build 37 Autosomal. If you did 
not use this one then that could be the problem. It is an easy mistake to make 
because you can also download Build 36 which will not work.

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

 

 

From: 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 11:22 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Transferring your DNA to My Heritage 
DNAbefore December 1

 

Cheri;  Thanks for this reminder.  I had tried to do this twice now without 
success.  It just kept showing that it was uploading but; would never finish.  
Thanks to you reminder, I tried again this morning with success.  I’ve uploaded 
all 3 of the kits I manage to My Heritage.  Interestingly, there were no issues 
with the two male kits but; when  uploaded my sister’s kit I received a message 
that said something like, we are unable to process this type of information at 
this time.  We will notify you when we are able to. (Something like that 
anyway).  Any ideas on that?

 

Thanks again,

 

Sam (Mazatlán, MX)

 

From: Cheri Mello <mailto:gfsche...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 8:14 PM
To: Azores Genealogy <mailto:Azores@googlegroups.com> ; 
madeira-geneal...@googlegroups.com; islandrou...@googlegroups.com
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Transferring your DNA to My Heritage DNAbefore 
December 1

 

(Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and IslandRoutes lists) 

 

Just a reminder...You only have a couple of days left before My Heritage starts 
charging on Dec. 1st.

Original email below:

 

For those who have DNA tested, you will want to download your raw data from 
whichever company and transfer it over to My Heritage DNA before December 1st. 

 

Each testing company has developed different tools and has different population 
samples. Transferring to MyHeritage DNA is currently free. Use of their tools 
will be grandfathered in. Beginning December 1st, you will have to pay. No, I 
don't know the amount.

 

Here is what Dick Eastman says about the transfer: https://goo.gl/F5VScW 

 

Here is Roberta Estes' step-by-step guide to downloading and transferring:

https://goo.gl/9bYpyM 

 

Roberta went to My Heritage's conference last week and spent a lot of time at 
the DNA lectures. Roberta does have a scientific or technical background, so 
she completely understands this stuff. She tries very hard to break the science 
down for the us to understand in her blog, DNA-Explained.com. She wrote a long, 
detailed article on how DNA matching is done at My Heritage. All companies have 
their own similar processes. I encourage everyone to read the article and try 
to follow along. You don't need to understand the gory details. The only 
understanding is that there's a lot of science and stuff behind the scenes 
going into these matches and it's not a perfect science. There's no way to 
appreciate it until you read (or attend) lectures like this. So read her latest 
blog with the understanding that you are following along and will only digest 
small portions of it: https://goo.gl/uAnanQ 

 

Cheri Mello, Family Tree DNA Admin (volunteer)

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

 

 

On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 12:23 PM Cheri Mello  wrote:

(Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and IslandRoutes lists)

 

For those who have DNA tested, you will want to download your raw data from 
whichever company and transfer it over to My Heritage DNA before December 1st. 

 

Each testing company has developed different tools and has different population 
samples. Transferring to MyHeritage DNA is currently free. Use of their tools 
will be grandfathered in. Beginning December 1st, yo

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Transferring your DNA to My Heritage DNAbefore December 1

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

Sam, I just did mine this morning and had no problems.   I first downloaded my 
DNA from Family Tree DNA. You want to download Build 37 Autosomal. If you did 
not use this one then that could be the problem. It is an easy mistake to make 
because you can also download Build 36 which will not work.

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

 

 

From: 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 11:22 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Transferring your DNA to My Heritage 
DNAbefore December 1

 

Cheri;  Thanks for this reminder.  I had tried to do this twice now without 
success.  It just kept showing that it was uploading but; would never finish.  
Thanks to you reminder, I tried again this morning with success.  I’ve uploaded 
all 3 of the kits I manage to My Heritage.  Interestingly, there were no issues 
with the two male kits but; when  uploaded my sister’s kit I received a message 
that said something like, we are unable to process this type of information at 
this time.  We will notify you when we are able to. (Something like that 
anyway).  Any ideas on that?

 

Thanks again,

 

Sam (Mazatlán, MX)

 

From: Cheri Mello <mailto:gfsche...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 8:14 PM
To: Azores Genealogy <mailto:Azores@googlegroups.com> ; 
madeira-geneal...@googlegroups.com; islandrou...@googlegroups.com
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Transferring your DNA to My Heritage DNAbefore 
December 1

 

(Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and IslandRoutes lists) 

 

Just a reminder...You only have a couple of days left before My Heritage starts 
charging on Dec. 1st.

Original email below:

 

For those who have DNA tested, you will want to download your raw data from 
whichever company and transfer it over to My Heritage DNA before December 1st. 

 

Each testing company has developed different tools and has different population 
samples. Transferring to MyHeritage DNA is currently free. Use of their tools 
will be grandfathered in. Beginning December 1st, you will have to pay. No, I 
don't know the amount.

 

Here is what Dick Eastman says about the transfer: https://goo.gl/F5VScW 

 

Here is Roberta Estes' step-by-step guide to downloading and transferring:

https://goo.gl/9bYpyM 

 

Roberta went to My Heritage's conference last week and spent a lot of time at 
the DNA lectures. Roberta does have a scientific or technical background, so 
she completely understands this stuff. She tries very hard to break the science 
down for the us to understand in her blog, DNA-Explained.com. She wrote a long, 
detailed article on how DNA matching is done at My Heritage. All companies have 
their own similar processes. I encourage everyone to read the article and try 
to follow along. You don't need to understand the gory details. The only 
understanding is that there's a lot of science and stuff behind the scenes 
going into these matches and it's not a perfect science. There's no way to 
appreciate it until you read (or attend) lectures like this. So read her latest 
blog with the understanding that you are following along and will only digest 
small portions of it: https://goo.gl/uAnanQ 

 

Cheri Mello, Family Tree DNA Admin (volunteer)

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

 

 

On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 12:23 PM Cheri Mello  wrote:

(Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and IslandRoutes lists)

 

For those who have DNA tested, you will want to download your raw data from 
whichever company and transfer it over to My Heritage DNA before December 1st. 

 

Each testing company has developed different tools and has different population 
samples. Transferring to MyHeritage DNA is currently free. Use of their tools 
will be grandfathered in. Beginning December 1st, you will have to pay. No, I 
don't know the amount.

 

Here is what Dick Eastman says about the transfer: https://goo.gl/F5VScW 

 

Here is Roberta Estes' step-by-step guide to downloading and transferring:

https://goo.gl/9bYpyM 

 

Roberta went to My Heritage's conference last week and spent a lot of time at 
the DNA lectures. Roberta does have a scientific or technical background, so 
she completely understands this stuff. She tries very hard to break the science 
down for the us to understand in her blog, DNA-Explained.com. She wrote a long, 
detailed article on how DNA matching is done at My Heritage. All companies have 
their own similar processes. I encourage everyone to read the article and try 
to follow along. You don't need to understand the gory details. The only 
understanding is that there's a lot of science and stuff behind the scenes 
going into these matches and it's not a perfect science. There's no way to

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] uploading gedcom to ftdna

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

I noticed the same thing on Saturday when I went through the drill of linking a 
person on my father’s tree. The relationship did not show up when I went to the 
FF matches. I just checked this morning and it is the same – no relationship 
but they are linked up.  The estimated relationship is 3rd to 5th cousin.

Rick

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cheri Mello
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 10:42 AM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] uploading gedcom to ftdna

 

Doreen, You need to email with the kit number, name of match, etc. If I can 
duplicate it, I will report it and FTDNA will open a trouble ticket on it. Cheri

 

On Nov 26, 2018 7:28 AM,  wrote:

That is how it works normally but in some cases with some of the profiles I 
manage it never shows up on the list of matches. The person shows up in the 
tree and they are linked but the relationship between the two people does not 
show up on the web page with the list of matches. It has been that way for 
months. Also it is not a distant match either. It just does not work in some 
cases.

 

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>  for Windows 10

 

From: Richard Francis Pimentel <mailto:richard.francis.pimen...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 1:17 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] uploading gedcom to ftdna

 

Hi Doreen, I just found a match on one of my trees and worked it through. Once 
you get the person you match on your tree by any of the methods discussed 
earlier. Close the tree and reopen your tree. You will then have a DNA match 
box on the left with the cousin’s name and a purple thing in a circle. Another 
Purple circle thing on the right above the + - buttons. In the search box enter 
the name of your cousin and when his name appears in the dropdown click it and 
he will appear in the tree on the center of the tree.  He should have a Purple 
circle thing  if you click it another box will open and ask if you want to link 
it go ahead and link and now It should be linked. 

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Francis Pimentel
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 2:24 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] uploading gedcom to ftdna

 

Ok, I don’t think you are given a choice on the relationship, you just link to 
your tree and the tree gives the relationship.  Did you try dragging the name 
in the box to the name that matches in your tree?

Is this your tree? As a project admin I only have limited access to it and 
cannot see a problem from my end.

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
doreencaet...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 1:54 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] uploading gedcom to ftdna

 

There are some problems with the FTDNA tree. I have entered a person on the 
tree then on the list of matches it does not show the relationship. This has 
happened on several cousins. I have even tried deleting the person and 
reentering the lineage and the person. Even with that method it does not work. 
Also you must be careful because if you have other cousin related to you 
through this line you may have just deleted that connection. It is not very 
user friendly. On cousin that are related to me several difference ways I have 
resorted to entering just the closest connection. Even this this method it 
still does not show some of the relationships on the match list page.

Doreen

 

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From: Richard Francis Pimentel <mailto:richard.francis.pimen...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 6:17 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] uploading gedcom to ftdna

 

Ok’ It has been a while since I have done it but, go to your page and open your 
family tree. Look in the box on the left side and find your 5th cousin’s name. 
Then go into the tree and find your 5th cousin and put it in view next to the 
box, Then drag your cousin’s name from the box and put in on his name in the 
tree. That should then show your 5th cousin as a match. 

 

Rick

 

From: 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 8:06 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] uploading gedcom to ftdna

 

Rick, I already added the whole line with my 4th cousin in it but; when I click 
on her to “add relationship” it doesn’t include cousins of any degree.  

 

Sam (Mazatlán, MX)

 

From: Richard Francis Pimentel <mailto:richard.francis.pimen...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 5:51 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] uploading gedcom to ftdna

 

You just cannot add a 5th Cousin. You hav

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese Brickwall.

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

Cory, 

I got them using the State of Massachusetts vital records website. It goes to a 
portal to Family Search. I used search parameters Name Maria da Costa, and a 
marriage between 1915-1925, spouse not named.

Rick

 

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Cory G.
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2018 9:39 AM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese Brickwall.

 

This is also really helpful. Silva was his moms last name so that checks out. 
Can I ask how you found this? These records are great.

On Friday, November 23, 2018 at 5:17:31 PM UTC-5, Richard Frances Pimentel 
wrote:

Eric, I believe the two attached records are your family. Stella and Manuel had 
a child named Olive and comparing the records, the marriage is a good match 
with the birth record of the one for Olive.   believe the other file is their 
marriage. It shows the marriage took place on 19 Jul 1919 in Somerset. The 
marriage may not have taken place in Fall River.

They are giving her husband’s name as Manuel Silva Raposa. I looked all through 
the records and this is the closest I could find. Hope this helps,  

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

 

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cory G.
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 12:41 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese Brickwall.

 

Oh wow thank you so much that will definitely help out. Now I know the parish 
she was from (and the fact that Ruby was my grandfathers middle name)

 

Thanks so much!

On Monday, July 30, 2018 at 6:09:19 PM UTC-4, luiznoia wrote:

This should move you in the right direction. Her obituary from the Portuguese 
American Newspapers at UMASS.

 

Eric Edgar

 

On Mon, Jul 30, 2018 at 10:41 AM Pam Santos  wrote:

Did you check her Obit? I got lucky one on line it listed where he was from in 
his Obituary.

 

On Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 2:21 PM, Cory G.  wrote:

Thanks Cheri very informative :) Also thanks for the name change that will 
definitely help.

Thanks again

On Sunday, July 22, 2018 at 1:15:52 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote:

Cory G,

 

She's probably Maria Estrella da Costa (or would be in the Portuguese records).

 

I don't understand why you say that you don't know where she is from but then 
go on to say most of your family is from Arrifes and Lagoa.

 

Here's a list of things to look into (a how-to from the Azores GenWeb): 
https://goo.gl/dGG4Ar 

 

You could write or call Santo Cristo in Fall River and ask them for a copy of 
what is in the book (if they cannot photocopy it, maybe they can take a picture 
on a cell and text it to you). I can't remember if Massachusetts falls under 
the 90 year rule (if so, you should be able to obtain it) or the 100 year rule 
(you'd have to wait until next year). You want what is in the book, as the 
bride may have stated the village where she was from. Maybe they can just tell 
you that part over the phone.

 

The U.S. Censuses will give her year of immigration and naturalization. If she 
did not naturalize and lived until 1940, she had to file the paperwork for the 
Smith Act/Alien Registration. Immigration, naturalization, and alien 
registration are things to look into as well. IF (giant IF) she is consistent 
on her immigration year, you *might* be able to find her emigrating from the 
Azores - IF (giant IF) the records exist.

 

Good luck,




Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

 

On Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 4:45 AM, Cory G.  wrote:


Hi guys I've been doing my tree for about 10 years now. My french side is all 
but finished and have been slowly working at my Portuguese side. My one 
specific brickwall has been my Maternal Great Grandmother Mary Stella Raposa 
Barboza (Decosta is her maiden name) married to Manuel Raposa Barbosa.

I'm just looking for some help to find info on her parents, whose names I don't 
know. I know Stella was born in the Azores but sure exactly where. Most of my 
side is from Arrifes and one grandfather in Lagoa but no record of her there as 
far as I can tell. Doesn't help that her name is Mary lol.

I heard If I could find a marriage record they usually are located in the 
brides town, but she was married in Fall River Ma

Her Birth is 1900 and Marriage 1919. Just looking for some tips on where to 
search next and of course any help would be amazing.

Thanks

Cory

Her Page
https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/L278-43X

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] uploading gedcom to ftdna

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

Hi Doreen, I just found a match on one of my trees and worked it through. Once 
you get the person you match on your tree by any of the methods discussed 
earlier. Close the tree and reopen your tree. You will then have a DNA match 
box on the left with the cousin’s name and a purple thing in a circle. Another 
Purple circle thing on the right above the + - buttons. In the search box enter 
the name of your cousin and when his name appears in the dropdown click it and 
he will appear in the tree on the center of the tree.  He should have a Purple 
circle thing  if you click it another box will open and ask if you want to link 
it go ahead and link and now It should be linked. 

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Francis Pimentel
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 2:24 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] uploading gedcom to ftdna

 

Ok, I don’t think you are given a choice on the relationship, you just link to 
your tree and the tree gives the relationship.  Did you try dragging the name 
in the box to the name that matches in your tree?

Is this your tree? As a project admin I only have limited access to it and 
cannot see a problem from my end.

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

 

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doreencaet...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 1:54 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] uploading gedcom to ftdna

 

There are some problems with the FTDNA tree. I have entered a person on the 
tree then on the list of matches it does not show the relationship. This has 
happened on several cousins. I have even tried deleting the person and 
reentering the lineage and the person. Even with that method it does not work. 
Also you must be careful because if you have other cousin related to you 
through this line you may have just deleted that connection. It is not very 
user friendly. On cousin that are related to me several difference ways I have 
resorted to entering just the closest connection. Even this this method it 
still does not show some of the relationships on the match list page.

Doreen

 

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From: Richard Francis Pimentel <mailto:richard.francis.pimen...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 6:17 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] uploading gedcom to ftdna

 

Ok’ It has been a while since I have done it but, go to your page and open your 
family tree. Look in the box on the left side and find your 5th cousin’s name. 
Then go into the tree and find your 5th cousin and put it in view next to the 
box, Then drag your cousin’s name from the box and put in on his name in the 
tree. That should then show your 5th cousin as a match. 

 

Rick

 

From: 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 8:06 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] uploading gedcom to ftdna

 

Rick, I already added the whole line with my 4th cousin in it but; when I click 
on her to “add relationship” it doesn’t include cousins of any degree.  

 

Sam (Mazatlán, MX)

 

From: Richard Francis Pimentel <mailto:richard.francis.pimen...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 5:51 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] uploading gedcom to ftdna

 

You just cannot add a 5th Cousin. You have to have the family tree from that 
5th Cousin connecting to a common ancestor in your tree first. This requires 
you to upload a revised family tree.

 

Rick

Family Tree DNA Co-Administrator
Azores DNA Project

  

Azores DNA Project Co-Administrators

All unpaid volunteers 

Cheri Mello –  <mailto:gfsche...@gmail.com> gfsche...@gmail.com 

Rick Pimentel – richard.francis.pimen...@gmail.com 

 

 

 

 

 

From: 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 7:39 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] uploading gedcom to ftdna

 

Well, I’ve never used the search box on FTDNA before.  Didn’t even realize it 
was there.  Ok, I found the person I want to add a relationship for.  She is my 
4th cousin but; when I click on add relationship the only choices I see are 
father, mother, sibling, spouse, son or daughter.  How do I add 5th cousin?

 

Sorry to be so slow on this and thanks very much for your help,

 

Sam (Mazatlán, MX)

 

From: Cheri Mello <mailto:gfsche...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 5:18 PM
To: Azores Genealogy <mailto:azores@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] uploading gedcom to ftdna

 

Hi Sam,

 

Your choice. You can delete the existing tree or just let the new tree override 
the old one. (I just let the new one override the old one). 

 

The viewing of the tree 

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] uploading gedcom to ftdna

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

Ok, I don’t think you are given a choice on the relationship, you just link to 
your tree and the tree gives the relationship.  Did you try dragging the name 
in the box to the name that matches in your tree?

Is this your tree? As a project admin I only have limited access to it and 
cannot see a problem from my end.

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
doreencaet...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 1:54 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] uploading gedcom to ftdna

 

There are some problems with the FTDNA tree. I have entered a person on the 
tree then on the list of matches it does not show the relationship. This has 
happened on several cousins. I have even tried deleting the person and 
reentering the lineage and the person. Even with that method it does not work. 
Also you must be careful because if you have other cousin related to you 
through this line you may have just deleted that connection. It is not very 
user friendly. On cousin that are related to me several difference ways I have 
resorted to entering just the closest connection. Even this this method it 
still does not show some of the relationships on the match list page.

Doreen

 

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>  for Windows 10

 

From: Richard Francis Pimentel <mailto:richard.francis.pimen...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 6:17 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] uploading gedcom to ftdna

 

Ok’ It has been a while since I have done it but, go to your page and open your 
family tree. Look in the box on the left side and find your 5th cousin’s name. 
Then go into the tree and find your 5th cousin and put it in view next to the 
box, Then drag your cousin’s name from the box and put in on his name in the 
tree. That should then show your 5th cousin as a match. 

 

Rick

 

From: 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 8:06 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] uploading gedcom to ftdna

 

Rick, I already added the whole line with my 4th cousin in it but; when I click 
on her to “add relationship” it doesn’t include cousins of any degree.  

 

Sam (Mazatlán, MX)

 

From: Richard Francis Pimentel <mailto:richard.francis.pimen...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 5:51 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] uploading gedcom to ftdna

 

You just cannot add a 5th Cousin. You have to have the family tree from that 
5th Cousin connecting to a common ancestor in your tree first. This requires 
you to upload a revised family tree.

 

Rick

Family Tree DNA Co-Administrator
Azores DNA Project

  

Azores DNA Project Co-Administrators

All unpaid volunteers 

Cheri Mello –  <mailto:gfsche...@gmail.com> gfsche...@gmail.com 

Rick Pimentel – richard.francis.pimen...@gmail.com 

 

 

 

 

 

From: 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 7:39 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] uploading gedcom to ftdna

 

Well, I’ve never used the search box on FTDNA before.  Didn’t even realize it 
was there.  Ok, I found the person I want to add a relationship for.  She is my 
4th cousin but; when I click on add relationship the only choices I see are 
father, mother, sibling, spouse, son or daughter.  How do I add 5th cousin?

 

Sorry to be so slow on this and thanks very much for your help,

 

Sam (Mazatlán, MX)

 

From: Cheri Mello <mailto:gfsche...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 5:18 PM
To: Azores Genealogy <mailto:azores@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] uploading gedcom to ftdna

 

Hi Sam,

 

Your choice. You can delete the existing tree or just let the new tree override 
the old one. (I just let the new one override the old one). 

 

The viewing of the tree is only 4 generations. So you search for the person. In 
the attached screen shot, I searched for Maria de Jesus. If you've entered 
birth dates, they appear. If not, you'll have to click on each one of your 
Maria's to see who she is married to in order to find the correct one.

 

Hope this helps,

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

 

 

On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 1:41 PM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy 
 wrote:

Hello all;  Can someone tell me please, if I want to update my family tree on 
FTDNA, do I still have to delete the existing tree and start fresh?  

 

Also, if you find a relationship that is more than 4 generations back, how do 
you connect them to your tree on FTDNA since it only shows 4 generations 
maximum or am I missing something?

 

Thanks,

Sam (Mazatlán, MX)

 

 


 
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] uploading gedcom to ftdna

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

Ok’ It has been a while since I have done it but, go to your page and open your 
family tree. Look in the box on the left side and find your 5th cousin’s name. 
Then go into the tree and find your 5th cousin and put it in view next to the 
box, Then drag your cousin’s name from the box and put in on his name in the 
tree. That should then show your 5th cousin as a match. 

 

Rick

 

From: 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 8:06 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] uploading gedcom to ftdna

 

Rick, I already added the whole line with my 4th cousin in it but; when I click 
on her to “add relationship” it doesn’t include cousins of any degree.  

 

Sam (Mazatlán, MX)

 

From: Richard Francis Pimentel <mailto:richard.francis.pimen...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 5:51 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] uploading gedcom to ftdna

 

You just cannot add a 5th Cousin. You have to have the family tree from that 
5th Cousin connecting to a common ancestor in your tree first. This requires 
you to upload a revised family tree.

 

Rick

Family Tree DNA Co-Administrator
Azores DNA Project

  

Azores DNA Project Co-Administrators

All unpaid volunteers 

Cheri Mello –  <mailto:gfsche...@gmail.com> gfsche...@gmail.com 

Rick Pimentel – richard.francis.pimen...@gmail.com 

 

 

 

 

 

From: 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 7:39 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] uploading gedcom to ftdna

 

Well, I’ve never used the search box on FTDNA before.  Didn’t even realize it 
was there.  Ok, I found the person I want to add a relationship for.  She is my 
4th cousin but; when I click on add relationship the only choices I see are 
father, mother, sibling, spouse, son or daughter.  How do I add 5th cousin?

 

Sorry to be so slow on this and thanks very much for your help,

 

Sam (Mazatlán, MX)

 

From: Cheri Mello <mailto:gfsche...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 5:18 PM
To: Azores Genealogy <mailto:azores@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] uploading gedcom to ftdna

 

Hi Sam,

 

Your choice. You can delete the existing tree or just let the new tree override 
the old one. (I just let the new one override the old one). 

 

The viewing of the tree is only 4 generations. So you search for the person. In 
the attached screen shot, I searched for Maria de Jesus. If you've entered 
birth dates, they appear. If not, you'll have to click on each one of your 
Maria's to see who she is married to in order to find the correct one.

 

Hope this helps,

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

 

 

On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 1:41 PM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy 
 wrote:

Hello all;  Can someone tell me please, if I want to update my family tree on 
FTDNA, do I still have to delete the existing tree and start fresh?  

 

Also, if you find a relationship that is more than 4 generations back, how do 
you connect them to your tree on FTDNA since it only shows 4 generations 
maximum or am I missing something?

 

Thanks,

Sam (Mazatlán, MX)

 

 


 
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] uploading gedcom to ftdna

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

Sam, You can also use the “add” feature in the tree by going to your common 
ancestor and then add “father, mother, sibling, spouse, son, daughter” working 
down to your 5th cousin.

Rick

 

From: 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 7:39 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] uploading gedcom to ftdna

 

Well, I’ve never used the search box on FTDNA before.  Didn’t even realize it 
was there.  Ok, I found the person I want to add a relationship for.  She is my 
4th cousin but; when I click on add relationship the only choices I see are 
father, mother, sibling, spouse, son or daughter.  How do I add 5th cousin?

 

Sorry to be so slow on this and thanks very much for your help,

 

Sam (Mazatlán, MX)

 

From: Cheri Mello  
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 5:18 PM
To: Azores Genealogy  
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] uploading gedcom to ftdna

 

Hi Sam,

 

Your choice. You can delete the existing tree or just let the new tree override 
the old one. (I just let the new one override the old one). 

 

The viewing of the tree is only 4 generations. So you search for the person. In 
the attached screen shot, I searched for Maria de Jesus. If you've entered 
birth dates, they appear. If not, you'll have to click on each one of your 
Maria's to see who she is married to in order to find the correct one.

 

Hope this helps,

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

 

 

On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 1:41 PM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy 
 wrote:

Hello all;  Can someone tell me please, if I want to update my family tree on 
FTDNA, do I still have to delete the existing tree and start fresh?  

 

Also, if you find a relationship that is more than 4 generations back, how do 
you connect them to your tree on FTDNA since it only shows 4 generations 
maximum or am I missing something?

 

Thanks,

Sam (Mazatlán, MX)

 

 


 

 
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] uploading gedcom to ftdna

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

You just cannot add a 5th Cousin. You have to have the family tree from that 
5th Cousin connecting to a common ancestor in your tree first. This requires 
you to upload a revised family tree.

 

Rick

Family Tree DNA Co-Administrator
Azores DNA Project

  

Azores DNA Project Co-Administrators

All unpaid volunteers 

Cheri Mello –   gfsche...@gmail.com 

Rick Pimentel – richard.francis.pimen...@gmail.com 

 

 

 

 

 

From: 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 7:39 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] uploading gedcom to ftdna

 

Well, I’ve never used the search box on FTDNA before.  Didn’t even realize it 
was there.  Ok, I found the person I want to add a relationship for.  She is my 
4th cousin but; when I click on add relationship the only choices I see are 
father, mother, sibling, spouse, son or daughter.  How do I add 5th cousin?

 

Sorry to be so slow on this and thanks very much for your help,

 

Sam (Mazatlán, MX)

 

From: Cheri Mello  
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 5:18 PM
To: Azores Genealogy  
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] uploading gedcom to ftdna

 

Hi Sam,

 

Your choice. You can delete the existing tree or just let the new tree override 
the old one. (I just let the new one override the old one). 

 

The viewing of the tree is only 4 generations. So you search for the person. In 
the attached screen shot, I searched for Maria de Jesus. If you've entered 
birth dates, they appear. If not, you'll have to click on each one of your 
Maria's to see who she is married to in order to find the correct one.

 

Hope this helps,

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

 

 

On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 1:41 PM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy 
 wrote:

Hello all;  Can someone tell me please, if I want to update my family tree on 
FTDNA, do I still have to delete the existing tree and start fresh?  

 

Also, if you find a relationship that is more than 4 generations back, how do 
you connect them to your tree on FTDNA since it only shows 4 generations 
maximum or am I missing something?

 

Thanks,

Sam (Mazatlán, MX)

 

 


 

 
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese Brickwall.

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

I was interrupted by dinner but the Church where the ceremony was performed was 
St Patrick Church in Somerset, MA. Espirito Santo in Fall River would have no 
record of the Marriage.

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Francis Pimentel
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 5:17 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese Brickwall.

 

Eric, I believe the two attached records are your family. Stella and Manuel had 
a child named Olive and comparing the records, the marriage is a good match 
with the birth record of the one for Olive.   believe the other file is their 
marriage. It shows the marriage took place on 19 Jul 1919 in Somerset. The 
marriage may not have taken place in Fall River.

They are giving her husband’s name as Manuel Silva Raposa. I looked all through 
the records and this is the closest I could find. Hope this helps,  

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

 

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cory G.
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 12:41 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese Brickwall.

 

Oh wow thank you so much that will definitely help out. Now I know the parish 
she was from (and the fact that Ruby was my grandfathers middle name)

 

Thanks so much!

On Monday, July 30, 2018 at 6:09:19 PM UTC-4, luiznoia wrote:

This should move you in the right direction. Her obituary from the Portuguese 
American Newspapers at UMASS.

 

Eric Edgar

 

On Mon, Jul 30, 2018 at 10:41 AM Pam Santos  > 
wrote:

Did you check her Obit? I got lucky one on line it listed where he was from in 
his Obituary.

 

On Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 2:21 PM, Cory G.  > 
wrote:

Thanks Cheri very informative :) Also thanks for the name change that will 
definitely help.

Thanks again

On Sunday, July 22, 2018 at 1:15:52 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote:

Cory G,

 

She's probably Maria Estrella da Costa (or would be in the Portuguese records).

 

I don't understand why you say that you don't know where she is from but then 
go on to say most of your family is from Arrifes and Lagoa.

 

Here's a list of things to look into (a how-to from the Azores GenWeb): 
https://goo.gl/dGG4Ar 

 

You could write or call Santo Cristo in Fall River and ask them for a copy of 
what is in the book (if they cannot photocopy it, maybe they can take a picture 
on a cell and text it to you). I can't remember if Massachusetts falls under 
the 90 year rule (if so, you should be able to obtain it) or the 100 year rule 
(you'd have to wait until next year). You want what is in the book, as the 
bride may have stated the village where she was from. Maybe they can just tell 
you that part over the phone.

 

The U.S. Censuses will give her year of immigration and naturalization. If she 
did not naturalize and lived until 1940, she had to file the paperwork for the 
Smith Act/Alien Registration. Immigration, naturalization, and alien 
registration are things to look into as well. IF (giant IF) she is consistent 
on her immigration year, you *might* be able to find her emigrating from the 
Azores - IF (giant IF) the records exist.

 

Good luck,




Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

 

On Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 4:45 AM, Cory G.  wrote:


Hi guys I've been doing my tree for about 10 years now. My french side is all 
but finished and have been slowly working at my Portuguese side. My one 
specific brickwall has been my Maternal Great Grandmother Mary Stella Raposa 
Barboza (Decosta is her maiden name) married to Manuel Raposa Barbosa.

I'm just looking for some help to find info on her parents, whose names I don't 
know. I know Stella was born in the Azores but sure exactly where. Most of my 
side is from Arrifes and one grandfather in Lagoa but no record of her there as 
far as I can tell. Doesn't help that her name is Mary lol.

I heard If I could find a marriage record they usually are located in the 
brides town, but she was married in Fall River Ma

Her Birth is 1900 and Marriage 1919. Just looking for some tips on where to 
search next and of course any help would be amazing.

Thanks

Cory

Her Page
https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/L278-43X

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Legacy Family Tree (Genealogy software) sale through Mon, Nov. 26

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

I have over 180 “Maria de Jesus” in my program, try and find the right on in 
dealing with that number. I could not do that with an online program. My 
program also lets me us AKA’s in sorting. I have one 2nd great grandmother that 
was known by six different names in records. Try showing that on ancestry. I 
also belong to a help group for the software I use and we help each other solve 
problems and techniques in use of the software.

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cheri Mello
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2018 1:56 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Legacy Family Tree (Genealogy software) sale 
through Mon, Nov. 26

 

For me, the computer based genealogy software programs enhance the research 
process, the online cloud-based programs do nothing to help. That's one of the 
biggest things for me. How many Manuel Silvas do we all have? There's Manuel 
Silva, our ancestor; his cousin, Manuel Silva (born just a year later); his 
uncle Manuel Silva; his nephew Manuel Silva, and then there's that *other* 
Manuel Silva family that we don't think we are related to but we have to keep 
track of since one of them is Manuel Silva married to Maria da Sousa, just like 
our Manuel Silva. LOL How do you know which Manuel Silva to pick? With 
Ancestry, you can search for a name in your tree, but unless you've memorized 
your Manuel Silva's birth year (or death year), you may pick the wrong one from 
the list. With Legacy (and other stand alone genealogy software programs), you 
have other information to help you (and you can customize it to YOUR liking!)

image.png

 

In the example above, if I don't remember my Maria's birth (or death) date, I 
can use her parents or 1st spouse to help me pick the correct one.

 

Many of these genealogy software programs have various help groups. The have 
Facebook groups, videos, webinars, and (gasp!) real, live in-person meetings at 
a library or genealogical society. I have to drive an hour (each way) to attend 
mine. I don't go to all of them, but I just make a day out of it, but 
carpooling with another local. We have lunch, drive there, have the 2 hour 
meeting and drive home.

 

So many features are available with these types of programs. You can try Legacy 
and RootsMagic for free. Yes, you need to find the time to sit down and mess 
around with them. After you pick one, you need to find the time to learn it. I 
learned as I went along. I did what I needed to do and when I needed something 
different, I had to go out and learn that. 

 

Sure hope someone else comes up with why a stand alone genealogy software 
program is essential to your research!  

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

 

 

On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 10:23 AM Richard Francis Pimentel 
 wrote:

There is so much more information you can keep on your own computer in this 
software than any online cloud program. It is also good for sharing your 
information in GEDCOM’s with other researchers. While I do not use this 
particular program there others on this list that do and can attest to it. The 
key to any program that is on your computer is to have a back up on a drive or 
other device or use a cloud backup.

Rick

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cheri Mello
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2018 12:34 PM
To: Azores Genealogy; madeira-geneal...@googlegroups.com; 
islandrou...@googlegroups.com
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Legacy Family Tree (Genealogy software) sale 
through Mon, Nov. 26

 

(Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and Island Routes lists)

 

Legacy Family Tree, a genealogy software, is having a sale through Monday, 
November 26th. 

image.png

 

The basic software, usually $34.95 USD is on sale for $17.48. Other products 
are on sale too:  https://goo.gl/C93xVF 

 

You can download their Standard Edition (free) at www.legacyfamilytree.com

 

See how you like it. I'm guessing the other companies will have sales too.

 

Yes, Legacy is a Windows/PC software. Currently, you can use it if you are a 
Mac running VM Fusion, Parallels, and BootCamp (I think). I'm not a Mac user, 
but Kathy Cardoza is and she runs lots of Windows products on her Mac and uses 
Legacy. (Note: The Mac version of Legacy Family Tree is still under development 
as of August 2017).

 

Why have a genealogy software program on your computer when you use Ancestry, 
My Heritage, Geni, FamilySearch, or whatever on the Internet? 1) You have more 
tools at your disposal. 2) You have more ways to analyze your data. 3) You can 
print charts 4) There's mapping features. 5) You can back it up to the Legacy 
cloud so if your computer goes on the blink, you'll have a back up. I'm sure 
there's many more. The online vendors are more of a family tree display. You 
can have your

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Legacy Family Tree (Genealogy software) sale through Mon, Nov. 26

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

There is so much more information you can keep on your own computer in this 
software than any online cloud program. It is also good for sharing your 
information in GEDCOM’s with other researchers. While I do not use this 
particular program there others on this list that do and can attest to it. The 
key to any program that is on your computer is to have a back up on a drive or 
other device or use a cloud backup.

Rick

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cheri Mello
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2018 12:34 PM
To: Azores Genealogy; madeira-geneal...@googlegroups.com; 
islandrou...@googlegroups.com
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Legacy Family Tree (Genealogy software) sale 
through Mon, Nov. 26

 

(Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and Island Routes lists)

 

Legacy Family Tree, a genealogy software, is having a sale through Monday, 
November 26th. 

image.png

 

The basic software, usually $34.95 USD is on sale for $17.48. Other products 
are on sale too:  https://goo.gl/C93xVF 

 

You can download their Standard Edition (free) at www.legacyfamilytree.com

 

See how you like it. I'm guessing the other companies will have sales too.

 

Yes, Legacy is a Windows/PC software. Currently, you can use it if you are a 
Mac running VM Fusion, Parallels, and BootCamp (I think). I'm not a Mac user, 
but Kathy Cardoza is and she runs lots of Windows products on her Mac and uses 
Legacy. (Note: The Mac version of Legacy Family Tree is still under development 
as of August 2017).

 

Why have a genealogy software program on your computer when you use Ancestry, 
My Heritage, Geni, FamilySearch, or whatever on the Internet? 1) You have more 
tools at your disposal. 2) You have more ways to analyze your data. 3) You can 
print charts 4) There's mapping features. 5) You can back it up to the Legacy 
cloud so if your computer goes on the blink, you'll have a back up. I'm sure 
there's many more. The online vendors are more of a family tree display. You 
can have your genealogy software program, create a Gedcom, and upload it to 
your online tree. Legacy syncs with My Heritage and FamilySearch (well, if you 
want it to).

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ribeira Grande, Sao Miguel-Baptism record help

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

This is the only Jacinto da Costa and Maria I have in my data from Estrela. The 
marriages I have cover the years 1771 to Jun 1839.

 

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1812-1828/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1812-1828_item1/P47.html
 

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

 

 

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rosemarie Capodicci
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 4:33 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ribeira Grande, Sao Miguel-Baptism record help

 

That is going to be difficult, Joseph. You will need to follow all the children 
of each couple and try to see if they start using an alcunha to tell them 
apart! 

 

Rosemarie 

 <mailto:rcap...@gmail.com> rcap...@gmail.com

Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,

Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

 

 

On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 1:00 PM Joseph Mendonca  wrote:

Thank you Rosemarie.  I agree on the "da Conceicao".  I have so far found two 
other married couples in Ribeira Grande with the same names of Jacinto da Costa 
Canejo and Maria da Conceicao.

 

On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 3:39 PM Rosemarie Capodicci  wrote:

Joseph, I believe it's Conceicao. Look at the capital "C" on Cura before the 
Priest's name at the bottom,looks the same. Although I believe it should be da 
Conceicao and it looks like de Conceicao. 

 

Rosemarie 

 <mailto:rcap...@gmail.com> rcap...@gmail.com

Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,

Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

 

 

On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 12:21 PM Joseph Mendonca  
wrote:

Left-top record-5th line down.  I need a 2nd set of eyes on the paternal 
grandmother's name.  I believe it to be Maria da CONCEICAO.  I see a cedilla 
under what I believe to be a "ç".

 

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-B-1828-1831/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-B-1828-1831_item1/P21.html

 

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Information on Juan Oschar

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

It would depend on the time period. In early records they spelled John as Joam 
and then it changed over time to Joao. Guessing on the time period you are 
searching, you could find it spelled either way. Yes, Jose is Joseph. Many men 
that are Joseph are called Joe by their friends and relatives.

Rick
Richard Francis Pimentel
Epping, NH

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
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From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sonya Thomas
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 8:24 AM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Information on Juan Oschar

Thanks everyone so far. On the transcript of his marriage certificate it lists 
his father’s name as John Oschar as well and we do not have any baspisn records 
for his children.

Thank you Margaret, that is very helpful. You found that passport so quickly, 
amazing! I will start looking through the Faial passports. 

Would John / Juan generally be written as Joao in Portuguese? And I assume Jose 
is Joseph / Joe?

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Ellis Island website expanded.

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

Dick Eastman's news letter today talks about the Ellis Island records being
expanded to include Castle Islands records. You can read about it here;

https://blog.eogn.com/2018/08/14/expanded-ellis-island-immigrant-records-182
0-1957-are-now-online-for-free/ 

 

Rick

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Searchable Azores church records on MyHeritage?

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

You can download images from CCA and edit them in Photoshop. The downloaded 
images are .jpg files.

 

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

 

 

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Elaine Mello
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2018 6:28 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Searchable Azores church records on MyHeritage?

 

Thanks LaRonda and Ken - when I think I have a record with the right name, I do 
download it so I can play with the contrast.  About to start 1862 trying to 
find my great grandmother

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[AZORES-Genealogy] FW: Survival Skills in Portuguese for Beginners - Part I

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Antonia Pacheco Arruda of Ribeira Quente, Sao Miguel island

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

It must be a wild guess. There is no mistake he wrote novanta when you look at 
the second line where he wrote novecentos. 

Rick

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cheri Mello
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2018 7:33 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Antonia Pacheco Arruda of Ribeira Quente, Sao 
Miguel island

 

Hmmm, that makes her having kids between ages 39-57. I wonder if it's a wild 
guess??

 

Yeah, this priest or scribe is giving all the ladies the husband's last name.




Cheri Mello
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Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

 

On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 12:33 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci  wrote:

I think the Priest made a mistake and then wrote over it with a 'nov' so, 
noventa e quatro, 94. 




Rosemarie 

  rcap...@gmail.com

Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,

Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

 

On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 10:59 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

How old is Antonia d'Arruda (#10 on the left)? 74 94 or 64. If I blink, it 
changes. I tried the magnifier too:

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-RIBEIRAQUENTE-O-1900-1905/SMG-PV-RIBEIRAQUENTE-O-1900-1905_item1/P16.html

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Antonia Pacheco Arruda of Ribeira Quente, Sao Miguel island

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

 I see novanta quatro 94.

Rick

 

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Cheri Mello
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2018 1:59 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Antonia Pacheco Arruda of Ribeira Quente, Sao 
Miguel island

 

How old is Antonia d'Arruda (#10 on the left)? 74 94 or 64. If I blink, it 
changes. I tried the magnifier too:

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-RIBEIRAQUENTE-O-1900-1905/SMG-PV-RIBEIRAQUENTE-O-1900-1905_item1/P16.html

Cheri Mello
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Researching in Massachusetts Archives

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

Maria, I am answering this under a new thread “Recording Sources”

Rick

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Maria Lima
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2018 9:11 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Researching in Massachusetts Archives

 

RICK:  that's great information and THANK YOU for recapping it in this email.  
(I didn't see it before today.). 

 

 The last couple of weeks I've  been researching a lot in New Bedford and 
Boston  and even found ancestors in Providence.  (Great new discoveries.). 

 

 I've been using the Portuguese American Digitized Newspapers and have 
discovered so much information,   I'm not too sure on how to enter it as a 
source document.  I'd like to crop and scan the article, not the entire page 
and enter it on the person's timeline.  Maybe you know how to do  that.   (?).  
   Copy and paste the link on to their name in familysearch.  

 

Thank you for all your help.  

 



Maria Elena 


On Jul 26, 2018, at 2:43 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel 
 wrote:

This past month I answered several queries of people looking for information in 
Massachusetts. Just a recap here for anyone that may have missed.

Massachusetts has the index of vital records (birth, marriage, and death) 
online for the years 1841-1910. You can search this index here: 
http://www.sec.state.ma.us/vitalrecordssearch/VitalRecordsSearch.aspx 

For the years 1841 to 1920 you can use Family Search (see attachment)

For the years 1921 to 1926 the records are now being digitized at the archives. 
There is an index for these records but it is in books which are only located 
at the archives in Boston. (see attachment)

Once you find your ancestors event in the index you can order a certified copy 
from the archives. You will not only get the certified copy but a copy of the 
page in the record book. 

When requesting the certified copy be sure to include the information you got 
from the index – name, year, volume number, page number and if it is a birth, 
marriage or death. It is suggested you include a $3.00 check for each record 
you want in case they cannot locate one of them they will just return the 
check.  The $3.00 fee is a real deal in these days. More information on 
ordering is here: http://www.sec.state.ma.us/arc/arcres/residx.htm#guide 

I have ordered records in the past and they are very prompt. You usually get a 
reply in less than two weeks.

Along with the vital records the archives have the petitions for naturalization 
which were done in state district courts (I think prior to 1950).  You must go 
to the archives to view them. 

If you go to Boston Use I 93. Morrisey Blvd is the exit for the JFK Library. 
Just follow the signs for the JFK Library the Archives are located nearby. 
Note: the Archives are only open Mon – Fri 8:30 to 4:30.

Also of interest is the Fall River Library has an index of Obituaries. These 
are not only for Fall River but cover many of the surrounding towns. My grand 
parents died in Attleboro, MA and they are in the index. You can look up a name 
and get a date. If you cannot go to the library you can request the Obituary by 
mail for $2.00 a page. All the obituaries are from the Fall River Herald News 
and cover the years 1940 to 2010. You can search them here: 
http://fallriverlibrary.org/research.html  

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

 

 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Recording Sources

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

Hello Maria,

Entering your source is one of the most important things you can do yet many
people do not do it. Genealogy programs have a means of entering sources and
from what I have seen there are differences in formats and information. 

If I were to enter the source of information I got from a newspaper, I would
make sure I had the following information:  1. Name of the newspaper and
where it was published  2. Date  3. Page number 4. Where the newspaper can
be found. (for example at the library on microfilm call number x)

The idea of copying and doing a cut and paste of the article is an excellent
idea. This is a practice which I do. Some genealogy programs let  you attach
documents. I do this and also store the images in a file on my computer with
a file name that identifies the item, (for example John Doe obituary from
Daily News 3 Dec 1972) When entering dates I use a format that cannot be
mistaken If I see a date 3/7/45 it could be easily mistaken for the wrong
date is it Jul 3 or March 7? And is it 1945 or 1845? Because genealogy is
world-wide, different cultures write dates differently.  Europe and the US
military use dd/mm/, most Americans us mm/dd/. So we need to be
clear on how you write dates.

Of special interest to many of us that use PT or CCA for records. When you
quote them as a source. I always include the book name (Nossa Senhora da
Estrela baptisms 1753-1757, Page number 37, reverse side, 2nd entry, CCA
image number 0039) 

Note: Most people say page number,  left or right side. If the page on the
right is page number 38 it is the front side of page 38, then the left side
of the image is page 37 reverse side This is because in the records only the
front side of a page is numbered. The back of the page is the reverse of
page number on the front.

Another point of interest is that the images from CCA/PT can be downloaded
to your computer simply right click and Save picture as.

People are really impressed with the research you have done when you show
them an image of your source. 

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

 

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Maria Lima
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2018 9:11 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Researching in Massachusetts Archives

 

RICK:  that's great information and THANK YOU for recapping it in this
email.  (I didn't see it before today.). 

 

 The last couple of weeks I've  been researching a lot in New Bedford and
Boston  and even found ancestors in Providence.  (Great new discoveries.). 

 

 I've been using the Portuguese American Digitized Newspapers and have
discovered so much information,   I'm not too sure on how to enter it as a
source document.  I'd like to crop and scan the article, not the entire page
and enter it on the person's timeline.  Maybe you know how to do  that.
(?). Copy and paste the link on to their name in familysearch.  

 

Thank you for all your help.  

 



Maria Elena 





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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese Brickwall.

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

Massachusetts vital records are available up to 1926 at the state archives. You 
can search online up to the year 1910 at this site: 
http://www.sec.state.ma.us/arc/arcsrch/SearchWelcome.html  . The index for the 
remaining years is at the archives in Boston (Near the JFK Library). You can 
search on Family Search (LDS site) as well.  Santo Cristo is part of the Fall 
River Diocese. The marriage record book is most likely at the parish.  

 

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

 

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cheri Mello
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2018 1:15 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese Brickwall.

 

Cory G,

 

She's probably Maria Estrella da Costa (or would be in the Portuguese records).

 

I don't understand why you say that you don't know where she is from but then 
go on to say most of your family is from Arrifes and Lagoa.

 

Here's a list of things to look into (a how-to from the Azores GenWeb): 
https://goo.gl/dGG4Ar 

 

You could write or call Santo Cristo in Fall River and ask them for a copy of 
what is in the book (if they cannot photocopy it, maybe they can take a picture 
on a cell and text it to you). I can't remember if Massachusetts falls under 
the 90 year rule (if so, you should be able to obtain it) or the 100 year rule 
(you'd have to wait until next year). You want what is in the book, as the 
bride may have stated the village where she was from. Maybe they can just tell 
you that part over the phone.

 

The U.S. Censuses will give her year of immigration and naturalization. If she 
did not naturalize and lived until 1940, she had to file the paperwork for the 
Smith Act/Alien Registration. Immigration, naturalization, and alien 
registration are things to look into as well. IF (giant IF) she is consistent 
on her immigration year, you *might* be able to find her emigrating from the 
Azores - IF (giant IF) the records exist.

 

Good luck,




Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

 

On Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 4:45 AM, Cory G.  wrote:


Hi guys I've been doing my tree for about 10 years now. My french side is all 
but finished and have been slowly working at my Portuguese side. My one 
specific brickwall has been my Maternal Great Grandmother Mary Stella Raposa 
Barboza (Decosta is her maiden name) married to Manuel Raposa Barbosa.

I'm just looking for some help to find info on her parents, whose names I don't 
know. I know Stella was born in the Azores but sure exactly where. Most of my 
side is from Arrifes and one grandfather in Lagoa but no record of her there as 
far as I can tell. Doesn't help that her name is Mary lol.

I heard If I could find a marriage record they usually are located in the 
brides town, but she was married in Fall River Ma

Her Birth is 1900 and Marriage 1919. Just looking for some tips on where to 
search next and of course any help would be amazing.

Thanks

Cory

Her Page
https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/L278-43X

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Manuel F. Sylvia/Silva

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

I believe the collections of the APGHS went to the Carney Library at U Mass at 
Dartmouth.  Sonia Pacheco is a librarian and archivist there and sometimes 
answers on this list would know more.

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

 

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cheri Mello
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2018 8:37 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Manuel F. Sylvia/Silva

 

The St. John's Cemetery book (by the Amarals, I think) was published by the 
Portuguese American Genealogical Society out of Taunton, MA. They have since 
closed shop. I don't know what happened to the remaining books. Ernest Cardoza 
(if he's still around) may know. This is a really old email for him. nestcard 
at tmlp.com Let me know if you make contact.  Cheri




Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

 

On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 5:27 PM, Elaine Mello  wrote:

E - what's this St. John's book that you mention?  Is it still available?   I'm 
thinking that I might find more relatives other than my grandparents, aunts and 
uncle there, and getting a copy of a book might be a good way to do it.

 

And Maggie, on Findagrave you can request that someone take a photo and if 
there's a volunteer who is in the area, they can add a photo for you.

 

. At some point if I take a drive down to New Bedford again, I can stop and do 
so myself as well, if that would be of interest.

 

Elaine 

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with father's last name on Altaresbirth record from 1868

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

I have seen Meneses before. But you could be right Goncalo.

Rick

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gonçalo Marques
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 2:16 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with father's last name on 
Altaresbirth record from 1868

 

 

I think it is "João de Simas de Meneres"

 

On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 7:11 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel 
 wrote:

Oops I was only looking at the underlined part and the second name blew by me. 
Yes, it must have come from the father’s mother. It is hard to read it looks 
something like “Munris” or “Menris” but I am not sure. The record is a bit 
fuzzy because of the dpi they used to scan it.

 

Rick

 

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Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 1:55 PM
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Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with father's last name on 
Altaresbirth record from 1868

 

There was not a second part to the father’s name that came from the paternal 
grandmother?

 

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From: Richard Francis Pimentel <mailto:richard.francis.pimen...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 10:47 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with father's last name on 
Altaresbirth record from 1868

 

The father’s name is Joao de Simas. Five lines below is the grandfather’s name 
which is a little easier to read Jose de Simas. The priest that signed the 
record at the bottom is Joao de Arita da Silveira which is a good comparison 
for the first letter on how he made his letter “S”.

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

 

 

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Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 1:26 PM
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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with father's last name on Altares birth 
record from 1868

 

What is the father’s last name? Record Number 50 on the rights side of the page 
for Maria. 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-B-1860-1869/TER-AH-ALTARES-B-1860-1869_item1/P266.html

 

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with father's last name on Altaresbirth record from 1868

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

Oops I was only looking at the underlined part and the second name blew by me. 
Yes, it must have come from the father’s mother. It is hard to read it looks 
something like “Munris” or “Menris” but I am not sure. The record is a bit 
fuzzy because of the dpi they used to scan it.

 

Rick

 

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Altaresbirth record from 1868

 

There was not a second part to the father’s name that came from the paternal 
grandmother?

 

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From: Richard Francis Pimentel <mailto:richard.francis.pimen...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 10:47 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with father's last name on 
Altaresbirth record from 1868

 

The father’s name is Joao de Simas. Five lines below is the grandfather’s name 
which is a little easier to read Jose de Simas. The priest that signed the 
record at the bottom is Joao de Arita da Silveira which is a good comparison 
for the first letter on how he made his letter “S”.

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

 

 

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Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 1:26 PM
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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with father's last name on Altares birth 
record from 1868

 

What is the father’s last name? Record Number 50 on the rights side of the page 
for Maria. 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-B-1860-1869/TER-AH-ALTARES-B-1860-1869_item1/P266.html

 

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with father's last name on Altares birth record from 1868

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

The father’s name is Joao de Simas. Five lines below is the grandfather’s name 
which is a little easier to read Jose de Simas. The priest that signed the 
record at the bottom is Joao de Arita da Silveira which is a good comparison 
for the first letter on how he made his letter “S”.

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

 

 

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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with father's last name on Altares birth 
record from 1868

 

What is the father’s last name? Record Number 50 on the rights side of the page 
for Maria. 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-B-1860-1869/TER-AH-ALTARES-B-1860-1869_item1/P266.html

 

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for Some Help Jumping from Pico to Sao Miguel

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

 I have all the marriages from Ribeirinha from 1836 to 1905 and they are not 
there, prior to 1826 Ribeirinha was part of NS Estrela in Ribeira Grande. While 
I have many births in Ribeirinha I do not have a Jacinto Pacheco/Moniz in the 
1943 time range.

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

 

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Sent: Monday, July 16, 2018 3:23 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for Some Help Jumping from Pico to Sao 
Miguel

 

Hello,
I'm looking for some assistance in trying to locate my 2x Great Grandfather's 
baptismal record and/or my 3x Great Grandfather's marriage records in 
Ribeirinha, Sao Miguel. I have located all of my ancestors in Pico and on my 2x 
Great Grandfather's marriage record it shows that he and his parents are from 
Ribeirinha, Sao Miguel. I have confirm this information with all five of my 2x 
Great Grandfather's children' baptismal records. Below is a link to Jacinto 
Pacheco (my 2x Great Grandfather) and Rosa Marianna (my 2x Great Grandmother) 
marriage record starting on the lower half of left hand page.

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-PIEDADE-C-1866-1874/PIC-LJ-PIEDADE-C-1866-1874_item1/P33.html

Based on this marriage record, my 2x Great Grandfather (Jacinto Pacheco) was 
married in 1870 and he was 27 years old. This would make the year that he was 
born 1843 plus or minus one year. I have looked over the baptismal records from 
the start of 1842 through the end of 1844 four times and could not locate my 2x 
Great Grandfather's baptismal record.

I figured that it would be easier to search a two year period for a 2x Great 
Grandfather's baptismal record than to search a 15-20 year period for my 3x 
Great Grandfather's marriage record. I also figured that if I could found my 2x 
Great Grandfather's baptismal record, I would know that I have the correct 
parish to search for the marriage record of my 3x Great Grandfather and 
Grandmother.

I even broke down and went over the marriage records one time from 1836 to end 
of 1844. 1836 is the earliest records they have digitized.

Any suggestions or advance would be greatly appreciated.

Ken

P.S. I have also attached my transcription/translation of my 2x Great 
Grandfather' marriage record just in case I have made a mistake in my 
transcription/translation.

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Birth and Death Dates Help

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

Christy, This is the link Cheri is referring to:  Got to a computer. Here's a 
how-to on "reading" (bumbling) your way through the documents:  
<https://goo.gl/4Tzc2i> https://goo.gl/4Tzc2i 

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

 

 

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cheri Mello
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2018 6:08 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Birth and Death Dates Help

 

It states it on the record you found on Tombo.pt. Says where the parents are 
from and where married. If you don't read Portuguese, there's a guide on the 
Azores GenWeb to help you pick your way through. I can't pist the link at the 
moment, but I've post it a few times a week. Maybe someone else can find it if 
you can't. Cheri

 

On Jul 16, 2018 2:17 PM, "Christy Stover"  wrote:

I found the baptism record for my great grandfather (Antonio Tavares) so now 
I've confirmed the names of his parents and grandparents. My question is how do 
I find their birth, marriage, and death dates? All I know about them is they're 
from Sao Miguel, Azores, Portugal and they never came to America. Any help 
anyone can give me on how to go about finding this information would be greatly 
appreciated. 

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Godparents

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

I lean toward Doctor if he had meant  “doutro” the letter D should not have 
been capitalized.  The way to tell for sure would be to check other records in 
the time frame and see if his name is written as Doctor. 

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
kennethmoni...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2018 9:02 AM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Godparents

 

Hello Maria,
If you notice the word Dona on the line above, it appears as if the second word 
starts with a capitol "D". This appears to be how this priest makes his capitol 
"D". So it reads "do doutro" which translates to "of the other". If that makes 
sense.

Ken

On Monday, July 16, 2018 at 5:37:01 AM UTC-7, Maria wrote:

TOP LEFT PAGE FOR MARIA (this is a clear record to read)

 

8 th line from bottom regarding the godparents:does that say  "do outro"  
or doctor?  The Godfather had the same name as his father so it makes sense the 
priest wrote "do outro".   However,  the way the priest wrote the word "do" 
twice, I thought it might be doctor(?).  (Did they even use that title?). 

 I also thought this because the godmother had the title  of "Doña".  It was 
interesting that the last names were so similar to the last name of the 
parents:  Marques and Marquita.  

 

Im still confused why  does the priest write "filhos familiar" instead of just 
the word filhos?  

 

Any light on this would be appreciated.  Thank you.

 

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-B-1814-1821/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-B-1814-1821_item1/P177.html

Maria Elena 

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Godparents

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

The godfather is Caetano Jose de Misquita and his sister Dona  Barbara Jacinta 
de Misquita both children of the family of Doctor Caetano Jose de Misquita

 

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

 

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Maria Lima
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2018 8:37 AM
To: AZORES
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Godparents

 

TOP LEFT PAGE FOR MARIA (this is a clear record to read)

 

8 th line from bottom regarding the godparents:does that say  "do outro"  
or doctor?  The Godfather had the same name as his father so it makes sense the 
priest wrote "do outro".   However,  the way the priest wrote the word "do" 
twice, I thought it might be doctor(?).  (Did they even use that title?). 

 I also thought this because the godmother had the title  of "Doña".  It was 
interesting that the last names were so similar to the last name of the 
parents:  Marques and Marquita.  

 

Im still confused why  does the priest write "filhos familiar" instead of just 
the word filhos?  

 

Any light on this would be appreciated.  Thank you.

 

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-B-1814-1821/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-B-1814-1821_item1/P177.html

Maria Elena 

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Maia,Sao Miguel Baptism-margin note help

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

The date 22 Jun 1957 was the date the note was made.

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

 

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Joseph Mendonca
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2018 7:24 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Maia,Sao Miguel Baptism-margin note help

 

Right page No. 81

 

The first margin note states that Emilia was married civilly and registered in 
the book of marriages No. 117 of 1918.  The note is dated 22 Jun 1957.

 

My question is: Was the marriage in the year 1918 or on 22 Jun 1957. 




http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-MAIA-B-1890-1899/SMG-RG-MAIA-B-1890-1899_item1/P437.html

 

 

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] The "elusive Maria Cristo"

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

Use the information and search the Ellis Island website to look at the original 
ship manifest.  You can use this link: 
https://www.libertyellisfoundation.org/family-history-center To search the 
records you need to create an account which is free. Need to go out now but 
perhaps I can look later

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Margaret Vicente
Sent: Friday, July 6, 2018 8:12 AM
To: azores
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The "elusive Maria Cristo"

 

Celeste,

 

In Oct/Nov of 2017 I emailed you privately the documentation for your Maria 
Moraes. At the time I took a temporary membership with Ancestry to search for 
your Maria and I'm pretty sure I found her.  Ancestry shows the 16 year old 
Maria travelling from Saint Michael's as Puerto Rican Nationality.  

 

I'm attaching the records.

 

On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 4:06 AM Cheri Mello  wrote:

Someone found her baptism and posted it to this list. I'm sure someone can type 
"elusive maria cristo" in the archives and find the former thread. :-)

 

On Jul 5, 2018 4:41 PM, "'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy" 
 wrote:

Found her where?  I will wait until you get back home and lead me through the 
archives to the email you mention.  Thanks Cheri.
Celeste

Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com


On Thu, 7/5/18, Cheri Mello  wrote:

 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The "elusive Maria Cristo"
 To: "Azores Genealogy" 
 Date: Thursday, July 5, 2018, 3:34 PM

 Someone found her a year or two
 ago. I'm not on my computer, but I'm sure you can
 search the archives for this list and find it.
 Cheri
 On Jul 5, 2018 11:28
 AM, "'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy"
 
 wrote:
 Thank
 you Elaine.  Hope your flight back is better than ours. 
 We had a delay in Boston and a lot of shaking on our way
 back.  Constant seatbelt light on.  

 Celeste



 Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com



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 On Thu, 7/5/18, E. Sharp 
 wrote:



  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The "elusive Maria
 Cristo"

  To: azores@googlegroups.com

  Date: Thursday, July 5, 2018, 11:19 AM



  Celeste,



  I think I found this several years ago for you

  and she was coming to her brother Seraphim/Seraphine.  I
 am

  at Boston right now awaiting my flight back to CA.  Will
 ck

  more when I get home. 



  "E"



  Sent from my iPhone



  > On Jul 5, 2018, at 1:44 PM, 'celeste

  perry' via Azores Genealogy 

  wrote:

  > 

  > I have

  just returned from my trip to Rhode Island to continue my

  search for my husband's paternal grandmother.  

  >   I visited St. Mary's in Bristol,

  RI.,  the church where she was married and I saw the
 book

  where she and her husband's marriage  was listed. 
 I

  had received a copy of the marriage record and verified
 that

  the information was the same in the book.

  >   I asked about her having to prove she

  had been baptized in Sao Miguel, Azores and I was told
 they

  did not have any information about her baptism.

  >   I was on my way back to the hotel from

  the church when I remembered seeing "file sent"

  written at the bottom of her marriage entry.  I found
 out

  where the diocese of R.I. was located and went there to
 ask

  for any information they might have of her baptism.  I
 did

  not get past the clerk at the door.  She talked to
 someone

  in the "archives" and was told they did not
 have

  such information.

  >   When I was eating

  at a Portuguese restaurant, I asked the owner if he knew
 any

  Portuguese priest.  He gave me the name of a Fr. Escobar

  and the church were he was living.  I went to the church

  and he was not there; however, the lady in the office was

  most helpful.

  >   She took my

  information and a copy of the marriage record I had with

  me.  The next day, I received a call from the church
 office

  lady and she said father Escobar had contacted the
 diocese

  office and was told the archives did not have any records

  for which I was searching.

  >   So, I am

  back to square one.  Someone on the list told me that
 proof

  of baptism was necessary for a marriage if the couple was

  born in another church.  Since Maria Cristo's
 siblings

  were all born in Lomba da Santa Barbara, Sao Miguel,
 Azores,

  that would have been the place of her baptism.  

  >   As I have said before, I looked at all

  the baptism records from the time her older brother was

  baptized until her father died.  I found no record for
 her

  birth.

  >   Below is the information I

  have send to the list a few years ago for anyone who is
 new

  to the list and may have information about my
 "Elusive

  Maria Cristo."

  > 1. Her

  name:  

  > In 2006, I rece

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with 1854 Altares marriag

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

I am confused on this one. The format is a little different than the one I am 
used to. I think it says Manuel Correa de Mello is marrying Isabel da Conceicao 
daughter of Joao Gonsalves Ferreira (deceased) and Maria do Espirito Santo. 
Toward the bottom, it says he is the widower of Isabel da Conceicao.  

 

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

 

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
doreencaet...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2018 12:08 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with 1854 Altares marriag

 

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1843-1860/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1843-1860_item1/P89.html
 right side of the page. Thanks

 

 

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>  for Windows 10

 

From: Rosemarie Capodicci <mailto:rcap...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2018 9:06 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with 1854 Altares marriag

 

Doreen, no link! 




Rosemarie 

 <mailto:rcap...@gmail.com> rcap...@gmail.com

Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,

Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

 

On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 8:51 AM,  wrote:

Please help me read the marriage record on the right side of the page. I 
believe it is the marriage record of Manuel Correira de Melo and Isabel da 
Conceicao on 11/19/1854. If it is are the parents of the groom Joao Goncalves 
Ferreira and Maria do Espirito Santo or is this the parents of the bride?

 

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>  for Windows 10

 

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Porto Formoso, Sao Miguel baptism record help

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

Yes I also see Brito. I have seen this name before in the Ribeira Grande 
Concelho.  The name is listed in James Guill’s book.

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

 

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Joseph Mendonca
Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2018 4:30 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Porto Formoso, Sao Miguel baptism record help

 

Left page No. 79 Joao , 4th line from bottom. I need a 2nd set of eyes on the 
maternal grandfather's last name.  I believe it's Francisco Teixeira Brito.

 

The priest was pretty good about crossing his t's but he just might have missed 
on this one.

 

 

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-PORTOFORMOSO-B-1880-1889/SMG-RG-PORTOFORMOSO-B-1880-1889_item1/P200.html

 

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Immigrating to the U.S.... govt records

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

Just had a thought this morning. To cover all bases check to see if by 
coincidence the Donna Maria also arrived around April 18, 1900. 

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Francis Pimentel
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2018 9:10 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Immigrating to the U.S govt records

 

If he said he arrived on the Donna Maria on 18 Apr 1901 and the ship record 
said the Donna Maria arrived in New York on 18 Apr 1901 then I would blow off 
the age. Check the passports prior to the Donna Maria sailing and see if you 
can find Antonio. 

 

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Elaine Mello
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2018 8:48 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Immigrating to the U.S govt records

 

So, after almost 2 years of trying to get information from the USCIS for my 
paternal grandfather, Antonio Mello, I came home to find a CD from the USCIS - 
I was so excited!

 

Then I put it in the computer, and found two PDFs - one which was a cover 
letter saying that they couldn't find any further records and that they were 
refunding me my money (though check that it actually gets refunded, just in 
case they forget...) and a secondary sheet with some very basic information, 
which is part of the application that they had.   So Antonio declared that he 
arrived April 18, 1901 on the S.S. Donna Maria into New York, which meant he 
was about 12 at the time.  He also declared he entered as Antonio Mello.   So I 
looked up the ship records, and can only find one Antonio Francis, aged 13, 
which may or may not be him.

 

So, is it unusual for people to get this wrong when filling out these forms, or 
are the records I've found online of immigrants incomplete?  I'm checking with 
the Justice Archives in Massachusetts to see if there is something at the state 
level since the federal government was such a disappointment (though they said 
I could try again as they are always searching for missing records, but that 
sounds more like looking for a needle in a haystack.)  So back to the research 
drawing board!

 

Elaine 

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Immigrating to the U.S.... govt records

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

If he said he arrived on the Donna Maria on 18 Apr 1901 and the ship record 
said the Donna Maria arrived in New York on 18 Apr 1901 then I would blow off 
the age. Check the passports prior to the Donna Maria sailing and see if you 
can find Antonio. 

 

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Elaine Mello
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2018 8:48 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Immigrating to the U.S govt records

 

So, after almost 2 years of trying to get information from the USCIS for my 
paternal grandfather, Antonio Mello, I came home to find a CD from the USCIS - 
I was so excited!

 

Then I put it in the computer, and found two PDFs - one which was a cover 
letter saying that they couldn't find any further records and that they were 
refunding me my money (though check that it actually gets refunded, just in 
case they forget...) and a secondary sheet with some very basic information, 
which is part of the application that they had.   So Antonio declared that he 
arrived April 18, 1901 on the S.S. Donna Maria into New York, which meant he 
was about 12 at the time.  He also declared he entered as Antonio Mello.   So I 
looked up the ship records, and can only find one Antonio Francis, aged 13, 
which may or may not be him.

 

So, is it unusual for people to get this wrong when filling out these forms, or 
are the records I've found online of immigrants incomplete?  I'm checking with 
the Justice Archives in Massachusetts to see if there is something at the state 
level since the federal government was such a disappointment (though they said 
I could try again as they are always searching for missing records, but that 
sounds more like looking for a needle in a haystack.)  So back to the research 
drawing board!

 

Elaine 

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name of bride's parents not sure

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

Manuel de Paiva and his wife Maria de Oliveira

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

 

 

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Maria Lima
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 5:34 PM
To: AZORES
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name of bride's parents not sure

 

Right page for MANOEL DE LIMA:

 

Not sure I'm reading name of the bride's parents correctly because I have 
looked in the baptismal records to verify that I have the name and so far I 
can't find them in Sao Sebastiao where she was baptized.  ( Maybe I just need 
to keep looking)

 

Are Francisca do Rosario's parents MANOEL DE PAYVA and MARIA DE AVILA OR DE 
ALMEIDA (?) or something else??

 

Thanks for your help.  

 

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1747-1778/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1747-1778_item1/P7.html

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] FTDNA matches

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

Paul, 

The reason you only have matches showing on the paternal tab is that you have 
linked a paternal line relationship to your tree. These would be relations that 
have taken an autosomal (Family Finder) test. You apparently have not linked a 
person on your maternal side of your tree. What you need to do is link your 3rd 
cousin once removed. This would mean you have to add the paper connection on 
your tree to this cousin and then link the relationship. Once you have done 
this then you will see maternal line matches.

 

Rick

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Azores DNA Project

  

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Rick Pimentel – richard.francis.pimen...@gmail.com 

 

 

 

 

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2018 7:30 AM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] FTDNA matches

 

Hello All:

 

At the top of the matches screen on the FTDNA site there are four tabs ALL, 
Paternal, Maternal, Both. On the paternal tab, I am showing 21 matches with 21 
figures with blue background next to said matches. I do have a confirmed 
maternal match (3rd cousin, 1 time removed), but the maternal tab shows 0 and 
no figure with a pink background next to this match. How/why is this person not 
showing as a maternal match?

 

Paul G.

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[AZORES-Genealogy] My Heritage Hack

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

This morning Dick Eastman wrote about the Hack of information at my 
Heritage. While the idea of a hack sounds bad, the only data taken was 
email addresses and hashed passwords. ( for example if your password was 
"newpassword" all they may have gotten was "nrd" )  My heritage is 
still recommending to change your password. 

This is a quote from My Heritage:  “Although no passwords leaked but only 
hashed versions of the passwords, we encouraged our users to change their 
password, and many already did so. However, to maximize the security of our 
users, we have started the process of expiring ALL user passwords on 
MyHeritage.”

You can read the Dick Eastman article here: 
 
https://blog.eogn.com/2018/06/06/comment-about-the-recent-cybersecurity-incident-at-myheritage/
 

Rick

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Phone for a month in the Azores

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

Two years ago my granddaughter went to Japan as part of her high school 
Japanese language class and we just called AT and paid for an international 
plan for a month. Check with your carrier and see what they offer.

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

 

 

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
MaryAnn Santos
Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2018 6:19 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Phone for a month in the Azores

 

When I was in Berlin and Lisbon last January I bought an international plan 
from my carrier, AT I did this also when I was in Portugal the summer of 
2016.

 

MaryAnn

 

On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 11:13 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

Does anyone on this list know how much it costs to have a phone for a month in 
the Azores? Someone told me it can be done. I think I can put my Sim card in 
the phone and it will work. The price in euros is fine.

 

Thanks, Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Antonio Rodrigues Roque b 1865, no location

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

Just a shot in the dark but the added name Roque could have been added because 
he was from Sao Roque parish in Rosto do Cao on Sao Miguel.

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

 

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cheri Mello
Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2018 1:09 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Antonio Rodrigues Roque b 1865, no location

 

Repost for Melissa, melissa.azevedo at mail.mcgill.ca; Posting to a thread over 
30 days old; Addressed to "Karen" - don't know which Karen on this list.

 

I've just started my family tree and have an Antonio Rodrigues Roque as a 
great-great-grandfather (he's my dad's great-grandfather, so I guess you two 
would be distant cousins). I'm looking for info about him and I was wondering 
if you had a record that said he was born in 1865 (or is it an estimate?). He 
was married to an ''Amelia'' right? My great-grand-father would be his son, 
Antonio Rodrigues Medeiros. 

 

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] A History of the Azores Islands

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

Yea that is 10 times the original cost. That makes the $100 copy look like a 
bargain.

Rick

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Joanne Mercier
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2018 10:14 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] A History of the Azores Islands

 

WOW! $350??? Too pricey for me. I’ll wait for the ebook version... 

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On May 19, 2018 at 8:48:31 AM, Richard Francis Pimentel 
(rfrancispimen...@comcast.net) wrote:

There are presently two copies for sale on the Albris Book site If you can 
afford them: 
https://www.alibris.com/A-history-of-the-Azores-Islands-James-H-Guill/book/2946888?qsort=p
 
<https://www.alibris.com/A-history-of-the-Azores-Islands-James-H-Guill/book/2946888?qsort=p=2>
 =2 

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] A History of the Azores Islands

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

There are presently two copies for sale on the Albris Book site If you can
afford them:
https://www.alibris.com/A-history-of-the-Azores-Islands-James-H-Guill/book/2
946888?qsort=p
<https://www.alibris.com/A-history-of-the-Azores-Islands-James-H-Guill/book/
2946888?qsort=p=2> =2 

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Maria do Rego

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

Bill. No that is not her. These are the records for Calhetas you need to look 
in the records for Pico da Pedra. 

 

From: bill2232 via Azores Genealogy [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2018 7:37 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Maria do Rego

 

Could this be her ?

 

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-CALHETAS-B-1890-1899/SMG-RG-CALHETAS-B-1890-1899_item1/P199.html

Maria do Rego b April 25. 1899 Pico da Pedra, Ribeira Grande, Sao Miguel

Father Jose Cabral do Rego mother Julia Soares

 

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From: 'bill2232' via Azores Genealogy 
To: Azores Genealogy 
Sent: Thu, May 17, 2018 10:02 pm
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Maria do Rego

 

Can anyone find this baptismal record so I can confirm info I have.

 

Maria do Rego b April 25. 1899 Pico da Pedra, Ribeira Grande, Sao Miguel

Father Jose Cabral do Rego mother Julia Soares

 

Also looking for two brothers but I do not have any dates Manual and Clemanto

 

Bill Cabral 

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Passports

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

This is the URL:  

http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-PDL-1900-1902/PASSAPORTES-PDL-1900-1902_item1/P98.html
  If I am reading that right that is Jacintha Ferreira a female so obviously 
not your grandfather.

 

Rick

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gordon soares
Sent: Tuesday, May 8, 2018 1:25 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Passports

 

Some time ago I found my grandfathers passport )at least I think it is him) and 
noted the Passport # (563), the date of issue (March 1, 1902) and the location 
on the passport site (0098 PDL 1900-1902)  BUT I forgot to note the URL for the 
passport data. What is it? And then I am going to ask someone for confirmation 
as to wether the name I found is indeed Jesse Ferreira.

 

Gordon

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