[FairfieldLife] Re: Because some here seem to like him...
Thanks for that. I didn't know that JR offered his million dollar challenge to the fraudster selling magical explosive detectors to Iraq in the hope of exposing the rather obvious fraud. I remember hearing that the government had given an export license for these things and thought the world must, finally, have gone completely and hopelessly mad. I didn't know he actually invited people to try out for the chance to win the cash, he should challenge the TMO to prove that yagya's work so that people can stop wasting their money on them when the experiment draws a blank. Unless it doesn't! LOL. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : The Unbelievable Skepticism of the Amazing Randi http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/09/magazine/the-unbelievable-skepticism-of-the-amazing-randi.html http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/09/magazine/the-unbelievable-skepticism-of-the-amazing-randi.html The Unbelievable Skepticism of the Amazing Randi http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/09/magazine/the-unbelievable-skepticism-of-the-amazing-randi.html http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/09/magazine/the-unbelievable-skepticism-of-the-amazing-randi.html The Unbelievable Skepticism of the Amazing Randi http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/09/magazine/the-unbelievable-skepticism-of-the-amazing-randi.html An expert magician, avid debunker and scourge of spiritualists and con men prepares for the final curtain. View on www.nytimes.com http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/09/magazine/the-unbelievable-skepticism-of-the-amazing-randi.html Preview by Yahoo http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/09/magazine/the-unbelievable-skepticism-of-the-amazing-randi.html http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/09/magazine/the-unbelievable-skepticism-of-the-amazing-randi.html An expert magician, avid debunker and scourge of spiritualists and con men prepares for the final curtain. View on www.nytimes.com http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/09/magazine/the-unbelievable-skepticism-of-the-amazing-randi.html Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls
Interesting article about a phenomenon that as I remember had its start in Fairfield. Descriptions of this Literary Pinnacle Of Newage Crap in the article like awful, mawkish, obvious, painful, unbearable, unenjoyable, and scarring and a noxious sludge of sentimental woo-woo just don't do its horriblenessitude justice. Someone I had known back in the TM movement once tried set me up on a coffee date with one of the Chicken Soup authors. It was horrific, almost the worst date in my life (for the record, the worst was with Barbara De Angelis)...I lasted less than five minutes before making some excuse and running away, and had to wash my ears out in the coffeeshop restroom before I felt human again. What Makes the Chicken Soup for the Soul Series So Addictive and Awful? What Makes the Chicken Soup for the Soul Series So Addic... My romance with Chicken Soup for the Soul began and ended with the adolescent iteration, Chicken Soup for the Teenage Soul, and it was fostered in part because I re... View on www.slate.com Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] World without love!
Your Brain in Love http://www.brainhq.com/brain-resources/brain-facts-myths/brain-in-love http://www.brainhq.com/brain-resources/brain-facts-myths/brain-in-love Your Brain in Love http://www.brainhq.com/brain-resources/brain-facts-myths/brain-in-love You may have heard people say that the most important organ for love is the brain, not the heart. Research on the neuroscience of love has some inter... View on www.brai... http://www.brainhq.com/brain-resources/brain-facts-myths/brain-in-love Preview by Yahoo Watch Dr. Fisher's presentation (antidepressants - world without love, because serotonin suppresses(?) dopamine...)
[FairfieldLife] New Guru Dev Website
Here´s a new Guru Dev website from Paul Mason. Check it out. http://gurudevenlightens.com/ http://gurudevenlightens.com/
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls
Jeez, turq, now you're blaming the TMO for chicken soup?! FYI, Jack Canfield
and Rick Hanson never lived in FF, though Marci Shimoff did. Read it and weep:
Marci Shimoff is the best selling, non fiction, woman author of all time. Put
that in your pipe and smoke it.
PS Making any progress on that thorn in your paw?
From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
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Subject: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls
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Interesting article about a phenomenon that as I remember had its start in
Fairfield. Descriptions of this Literary Pinnacle Of Newage Crap in the article
like awful, mawkish, obvious, painful, unbearable, unenjoyable, and scarring
and a noxious sludge of sentimental woo-woo just don't do its
horriblenessitude justice.
Someone I had known back in the TM movement once tried set me up on a coffee
date with one of the Chicken Soup authors. It was horrific, almost the worst
date in my life (for the record, the worst was with Barbara De Angelis)...I
lasted less than five minutes before making some excuse and running away, and
had to wash my ears out in the coffeeshop restroom before I felt human again.
What Makes the Chicken Soup for the Soul Series So Addictive and Awful?
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Forget BATGAP
MJ, Panache actually likes Russell Brand a lot, loves Russell's news show
because it's intelligence and Panache sees how the regular media stirs up fear
in people which makes them easier to control. This is why I stopped posting
about ebola.
Rick brought up about Maitreya and Panache said he's not him. Later in the
interview Panache brought up Russell's news show and then gently joked that
with his beard, maybe he's Maitreya.
From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
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Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2014 11:48 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Forget BATGAP
Ha ha ha ha! Russell Brand is Maitreya!! Nabby will bow and scrape to him
if ever Benjy Creme saidAc it was so!!!
From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2014 11:34 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Forget BATGAP
Anyone allowing others to think he is Maitreya is a fool, anyone allowing
themselves to be called Maitreya is an even bigger fool.Without having seen the
specific interview I suppose it's just more me, me, me which is Batgaps'
trademark. I'll pass, thank you very much.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
Nabby, before you forget BATGAP you might want to listen to Rick's interview
with Panache Desai. They talk about how some people think he's Maitreya. He
being Panache, not Rick (-:Later he jokes that actually Russell Brand is
Maitreya.
From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
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Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2014 8:00 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Forget BATGAP
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Litemint and Vicious Bitches
Yep, my high school was only 500, all girls and I can't remember one single
instance of MG cliques. But there were big tribes: the super smart (average of
99 or 98 for four years!), the politically active, the religious. The crowd I
was in consisted of the moderately smart (average of 90-92 for four years) who
were also the jockettes and the student govt reps. When I first arrived at MIU
in 1975 I loved it because the vibe was kind, just like my high school. But
there were guys too!
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Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Litemint and Vicious Bitches
The bigger your high school, the more likely it was to have mean girl
cliques
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Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Litemint and Vicious Bitches
Kung Fu Tzu say:
Empty-headed like hollow space
Pretty face just wilted flower.
Aging body consumes all hope.
In dumbness, in blankness the
vapid bray and bray
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More American Stupidity
But Mike, imo we don't really have free enterprise in this country.
From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
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Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2014 9:36 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More American Stupidity
Capitalism is the best system for the disabled, sick and old age. Wealth is
created abundantly by capitalism which can be taxed and provide a safety net.
People can also provide for themselves better and the smart ones save for their
future.. Most, if not all, union pension plans are heavily invested in
capitalism which pays their member benefits. Ask the people of the former
Soviet Union and China if they prefer capitalism or old Soviet central planning
with Socialism. Governments don't generate wealth, they just take it away and
redistribute it. Free enterprise generates wealth. Ask any rich person or
person aspiring to be rich. With an abundance of wealth, good things can be
done and planned for. The Soviet Union couldn't clean up they environmental
messes they created.
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Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2014 7:05 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More American Stupidity
I think capitalism is often a good thing, but the problem is that it gets
applied to every area - and some things don't flourish under capitalism. some
things just don't work well with that approach - like taking care of the
disabled, or people getting sick, or old age. People need help from time to
time, and the unlucky ones need more help than average. But beyond that, it is
going to be a terrible problem to change our approach to the economy, and to
begin to somehow not think of success as perpetual growth growing and getting
bigger and more profitable. I just cannot imagine how this is going to play
out once climate change becomes a scary and very real emergency for us all.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More American Stupidity
Bhairitu, thinking about my family some more: rich people want to be hyper rich
and they think Republicans will help them achieve that. I think that's the big
mistake they make.
From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2014 9:21 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More American Stupidity
The vote was reactionary. California had a very low turnout because
people were so disillusioned. Those who voted Republican thinking they would
fix things will learn differently over the next couple of years.
On 11/08/2014 07:12 PM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
Right, but in terms of the number of votes that were needed to bring the
Republicans back into power, we're talking about more than a handful of
billionaires. It's all the millionaires down the street who voted the
Republicans into power.
From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2014 8:50 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More American Stupidity
I'm not talking small business rich. When we say rich these days
we want to dispense with the clumsiness of saying super rich or uber rich
etc. Intelligent people know what we mean when we say the rich and that we
don't mean the millionaire down the street.
On 11/08/2014 06:36 PM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
Bhairitu, my Dad and stepMom grew up in the Depression. My Dad started
working for his Dad when he was 16, didn't even finish high school. When I was
little, we were lucky if we got 5 cents for a popcicle. What I'm saying is that
I think the extravagance came later and I think people who grew up in the
Depression and then worked hard, feel like they deserve the good life now.
Where I see people a little spoiled are my sister's kids. They're in their
early forties and late thirties, grew up really comfortable, wearing expensive
sneakers, driving expensive cars from age 16, etc. Heck, we wore Keds and I
learned to drive in a VW.
From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2014 7:21 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More American Stupidity
Capitalism is like candy and the rich like spoiled kids. They just
want more and more candy. Hence they get fat and cranky and want their way
all the time. What we need to do is take away their candy from them and let
them dry out. Otherwise they become a complete drag on society.
Free enterprise is not a bad idea about capitalism run amok is very
dangerous. Sometimes you just have to shut things down and spank the
miscreants.
On 11/08/2014 04:46 PM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
wrote:
Wayback, I've read Klein online and found her to be a compelling writer.
But when I think about my Dad and stepMom, staunch Republicans, I bet they
never even heard of Silent Spring or Rachel Carson. Even though my Dad's a
nature lover. Mostly what they know is being small and successful business
owners. They're gonna choose capitalism over climate every time. My guess is
most Republicans will simply label Klein a liberal and not pay much
attention to what she has to report. From:
waybac...@yahoo.com[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2014 5:27 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: More American Stupidity
An important new book just came out about capitalism and climate
change: This Changes Everything: Capitalism vs. the Climate, by Naomi Klein.
But the converted, anti SUV folks are probably the only ones who will read
it. The review in today's NY Times called it the most important environmental
book since Rachel Carson's Silent Spring. (I gave a book report on Silent
Spring in high school, so it made an impression). I will have to pop an
antidepressant before reading Klein's book, which I intend to do as soon as
the library gets it. I think the gist is that capitalism as we know it
cannot continue if we intend to deal with climate change.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: More American Stupidity
Mike, the problem is not capitalism. It's crass consumerism or hyper-consumerism as some would call it. It leads to voracious unsustainable consumption of resources. In fact, this problem existed even in ancient times, a lot of ancient civilisations collapsed due to rampant tree cutting and ecological degradation. It soon became unsustainable. This is exactly the reason, the entire taxation methodology must be changed. Taxation should be based on consumption and not on income. For instance, if you earn 20,000 $ a month but spend only 2,000 $ out of that. You put the rest 18,000$ in bank. You should be taxed only for that 2,000 $ you spent. The interest rate in banks are artificially low. Some incentive should be given to people to save money in banks. --- mdixon.6569@... wrote : Capitalism is the best system for the disabled, sick and old age. Wealth is created abundantly by capitalism which can be taxed and provide a safety net. People can also provide for themselves better and the smart ones save for their future.. Most, if not all, union pension plans are heavily invested in capitalism which pays their member benefits. Ask the people of the former Soviet Union and China if they prefer capitalism or old Soviet central planning with Socialism. Governments don't generate wealth, they just take it away and redistribute it. Free enterprise generates wealth. Ask any rich person or person aspiring to be rich. With an abundance of wealth, good things can be done and planned for. The Soviet Union couldn't clean up they environmental messes they created. So we all end up like the Soviet Union and pre-capitalist China. Plenty of nothing to go around for everybody. Did you ever see or hear about the Soviet era enviornment? Plenty of mess to clean up but no money to do it. But then we will *make* them do it... for mother Russia! From: Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Capitalism is like candy and the rich like spoiled kids. They just want more and more candy. Hence they get fat and cranky and want their way all the time. What we need to do is take away their candy from them and let them dry out. Otherwise they become a complete drag on society. Free enterprise is not a bad idea about capitalism run amok is very dangerous. Sometimes you just have to shut things down and spank the miscreants.
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls
So you're trying to make the point that the world has terrible taste in non-fiction? That's not news. Me, I'll stick with awful, mawkish, obvious, painful, unbearable, unenjoyable, and scarring and a noxious sludge of sentimental woo-woo. :-) Besides, a quick scan of this page http://www.abebooks.com/blog/index.php/2014/01/17/the-75-greatest-living-female-authors/ reveals that Marci Shimoff's name does not appear on it anywhere. The list *does* comprise both fiction and non-fiction, but there are at least 7 female authors on the list who write non-fiction, none of them Marci Shimoff. I suspect you have done your usual thing and have chosen to believe marketing fiction created by Shimoff's publisher and accept it as if it were true. It isn't. Marci Shimoff doesn't even have her own Wikipedia page, something one might have expected if what you claim about her book sales were true. In other words, ONCE AGAIN you've chosen to believe a lie that makes you feel good about something/someone TM-related, rather than expend even the slightest effort to see whether the lie was true. In fact, *even on her OWN Web page*, Shimoff doesn't claim what you said. The copy reads, ...one of the bestselling female nonfiction authors of all time, so it appears that you made up this particular lie ALL BY YOURSELF. What do you have to say for yourself, Share? From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 12:56 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls Jeez, turq, now you're blaming the TMO for chicken soup?! FYI, Jack Canfield and Rick Hanson never lived in FF, though Marci Shimoff did. Read it and weep: Marci Shimoff is the best selling, non fiction, woman authorof all time. Put that in your pipe and smoke it. PS Making any progress on that thorn in your paw? From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 3:47 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls . Interesting article about a phenomenon that as I remember had its start in Fairfield. Descriptions of this Literary Pinnacle Of Newage Crap in the article like awful, mawkish, obvious, painful, unbearable, unenjoyable, and scarring and a noxious sludge of sentimental woo-woo just don't do its horriblenessitude justice. Someone I had known back in the TM movement once tried set me up on a coffee date with one of the Chicken Soup authors. It was horrific, almost the worst date in my life (for the record, the worst was with Barbara De Angelis)...I lasted less than five minutes before making some excuse and running away, and had to wash my ears out in the coffeeshop restroom before I felt human again. What Makes the Chicken Soup for the Soul Series So Addictive and Awful? What Makes the Chicken Soup for the Soul Series So Addic... My romance with Chicken Soup for the Soul began and ended with the adolescent iteration, Chicken Soup for the Teenage Soul, and it was fostered in part because I re... View on www.slate.com Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls
Nope turq, I heard it from one of Marci's best friends and co hostess during a
teleclass. Neither one of them are associated with TM any more. And I own no
chicken soup books!
From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 6:56 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls
So you're trying to make the point that the world has terrible taste in
non-fiction? That's not news. Me, I'll stick with awful, mawkish, obvious,
painful, unbearable, unenjoyable, and scarring and a noxious sludge of
sentimental woo-woo. :-)
Besides, a quick scan of this page
http://www.abebooks.com/blog/index.php/2014/01/17/the-75-greatest-living-female-authors/
reveals that Marci Shimoff's name does not appear on it anywhere. The list
*does* comprise both fiction and non-fiction, but there are at least 7 female
authors on the list who write non-fiction, none of them Marci Shimoff.
I suspect you have done your usual thing and have chosen to believe marketing
fiction created by Shimoff's publisher and accept it as if it were true. It
isn't. Marci Shimoff doesn't even have her own Wikipedia page, something one
might have expected if what you claim about her book sales were true.
In other words, ONCE AGAIN you've chosen to believe a lie that makes you feel
good about something/someone TM-related, rather than expend even the slightest
effort to see whether the lie was true.
In fact, *even on her OWN Web page*, Shimoff doesn't claim what you said. The
copy reads, ...one of the bestselling female nonfiction authors of all time,
so it appears that you made up this particular lie ALL BY YOURSELF. What do you
have to say for yourself, Share?
From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 12:56 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls
Jeez, turq, now you're blaming the TMO for chicken soup?! FYI, Jack
Canfield and Rick Hanson never lived in FF, though Marci Shimoff did. Read it
and weep: Marci Shimoff is the best selling, non fiction, woman author of all
time. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
PS Making any progress on that thorn in your paw?
From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 3:47 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls
.
Interesting article about a phenomenon that as I remember had its start in
Fairfield. Descriptions of this Literary Pinnacle Of Newage Crap in the article
like awful, mawkish, obvious, painful, unbearable, unenjoyable, and scarring
and a noxious sludge of sentimental woo-woo just don't do its
horriblenessitude justice.
Someone I had known back in the TM movement once tried set me up on a coffee
date with one of the Chicken Soup authors. It was horrific, almost the worst
date in my life (for the record, the worst was with Barbara De Angelis)...I
lasted less than five minutes before making some excuse and running away, and
had to wash my ears out in the coffeeshop restroom before I felt human again.
What Makes the Chicken Soup for the Soul Series So Addictive and Awful?
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Chicken Soup for the Soul began and ended with the adolescent iteration,
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Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls
Still, you lied. Deal with it. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls Nope turq, I heard it from one of Marci's best friends and co hostess during a teleclass. Neither one of them are associated with TM any more. And I own no chicken soup books! From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 6:56 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls So you're trying to make the point that the world has terrible taste in non-fiction? That's not news. Me, I'll stick with awful, mawkish, obvious, painful, unbearable, unenjoyable, and scarring and a noxious sludge of sentimental woo-woo. :-) Besides, a quick scan of this page http://www.abebooks.com/blog/index.php/2014/01/17/the-75-greatest-living-female-authors/ reveals that Marci Shimoff's name does not appear on it anywhere. The list *does* comprise both fiction and non-fiction, but there are at least 7 female authors on the list who write non-fiction, none of them Marci Shimoff. I suspect you have done your usual thing and have chosen to believe marketing fiction created by Shimoff's publisher and accept it as if it were true. It isn't. Marci Shimoff doesn't even have her own Wikipedia page, something one might have expected if what you claim about her book sales were true. In other words, ONCE AGAIN you've chosen to believe a lie that makes you feel good about something/someone TM-related, rather than expend even the slightest effort to see whether the lie was true. In fact, *even on her OWN Web page*, Shimoff doesn't claim what you said. The copy reads, ...one of the bestselling female nonfiction authors of all time, so it appears that you made up this particular lie ALL BY YOURSELF. What do you have to say for yourself, Share? From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 12:56 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls Jeez, turq, now you're blaming the TMO for chicken soup?! FYI, Jack Canfield and Rick Hanson never lived in FF, though Marci Shimoff did. Read it and weep: Marci Shimoff is the best selling, non fiction, woman authorof all time. Put that in your pipe and smoke it. PS Making any progress on that thorn in your paw? From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 3:47 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls . Interesting article about a phenomenon that as I remember had its start in Fairfield. Descriptions of this Literary Pinnacle Of Newage Crap in the article like awful, mawkish, obvious, painful, unbearable, unenjoyable, and scarring and a noxious sludge of sentimental woo-woo just don't do its horriblenessitude justice. Someone I had known back in the TM movement once tried set me up on a coffee date with one of the Chicken Soup authors. It was horrific, almost the worst date in my life (for the record, the worst was with Barbara De Angelis)...I lasted less than five minutes before making some excuse and running away, and had to wash my ears out in the coffeeshop restroom before I felt human again. What Makes the Chicken Soup for the Soul Series So Addictive and Awful? What Makes the Chicken Soup for the Soul Series So Addic... My romance with Chicken Soup for the Soul began and ended with the adolescent iteration, Chicken Soup for the Teenage Soul, and it was fostered in part because I re... View on www.slate.com Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls
I repeated something about Marci that was said by one of her best friends
during a teleclass they were co-hosting. Marci did not correct her so I assumed
it was true.
From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 7:06 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls
Still, you lied. Deal with it.
From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 2:00 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls
Nope turq, I heard it from one of Marci's best friends and co hostess
during a teleclass. Neither one of them are associated with TM any more. And I
own no chicken soup books!
From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 6:56 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls
So you're trying to make the point that the world has terrible taste in
non-fiction? That's not news. Me, I'll stick with awful, mawkish, obvious,
painful, unbearable, unenjoyable, and scarring and a noxious sludge of
sentimental woo-woo. :-)
Besides, a quick scan of this page
http://www.abebooks.com/blog/index.php/2014/01/17/the-75-greatest-living-female-authors/
reveals that Marci Shimoff's name does not appear on it anywhere. The list
*does* comprise both fiction and non-fiction, but there are at least 7 female
authors on the list who write non-fiction, none of them Marci Shimoff.
I suspect you have done your usual thing and have chosen to believe marketing
fiction created by Shimoff's publisher and accept it as if it were true. It
isn't. Marci Shimoff doesn't even have her own Wikipedia page, something one
might have expected if what you claim about her book sales were true.
In other words, ONCE AGAIN you've chosen to believe a lie that makes you feel
good about something/someone TM-related, rather than expend even the slightest
effort to see whether the lie was true.
In fact, *even on her OWN Web page*, Shimoff doesn't claim what you said. The
copy reads, ...one of the bestselling female nonfiction authors of all time,
so it appears that you made up this particular lie ALL BY YOURSELF. What do you
have to say for yourself, Share?
From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 12:56 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls
Jeez, turq, now you're blaming the TMO for chicken soup?! FYI, Jack
Canfield and Rick Hanson never lived in FF, though Marci Shimoff did. Read it
and weep: Marci Shimoff is the best selling, non fiction, woman author of all
time. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
PS Making any progress on that thorn in your paw?
From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 3:47 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls
.
Interesting article about a phenomenon that as I remember had its start in
Fairfield. Descriptions of this Literary Pinnacle Of Newage Crap in the article
like awful, mawkish, obvious, painful, unbearable, unenjoyable, and scarring
and a noxious sludge of sentimental woo-woo just don't do its
horriblenessitude justice.
Someone I had known back in the TM movement once tried set me up on a coffee
date with one of the Chicken Soup authors. It was horrific, almost the worst
date in my life (for the record, the worst was with Barbara De Angelis)...I
lasted less than five minutes before making some excuse and running away, and
had to wash my ears out in the coffeeshop restroom before I felt human again.
What Makes the Chicken Soup for the Soul Series So Addictive and Awful?
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| | | | | | | |
| What Makes the Chicken Soup for the Soul Series So Addic...My romance with
Chicken Soup for the Soul began and ended with the adolescent iteration,
Chicken Soup for the Teenage Soul, and it was fostered in part because I re... |
| |
| View on www.slate.com | Preview by Yahoo |
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Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls
So all *three* of you lied, or have no regard whatsoever for the truth. Good to know. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 2:09 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls I repeated something about Marci that was said by one of her best friends during a teleclass they were co-hosting. Marci did not correct her so I assumed it was true. From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 7:06 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls Still, you lied. Deal with it. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls Nope turq, I heard it from one of Marci's best friends and co hostess during a teleclass. Neither one of them are associated with TM any more. And I own no chicken soup books! From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 6:56 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls So you're trying to make the point that the world has terrible taste in non-fiction? That's not news. Me, I'll stick with awful, mawkish, obvious, painful, unbearable, unenjoyable, and scarring and a noxious sludge of sentimental woo-woo. :-) Besides, a quick scan of this page http://www.abebooks.com/blog/index.php/2014/01/17/the-75-greatest-living-female-authors/ reveals that Marci Shimoff's name does not appear on it anywhere. The list *does* comprise both fiction and non-fiction, but there are at least 7 female authors on the list who write non-fiction, none of them Marci Shimoff. I suspect you have done your usual thing and have chosen to believe marketing fiction created by Shimoff's publisher and accept it as if it were true. It isn't. Marci Shimoff doesn't even have her own Wikipedia page, something one might have expected if what you claim about her book sales were true. In other words, ONCE AGAIN you've chosen to believe a lie that makes you feel good about something/someone TM-related, rather than expend even the slightest effort to see whether the lie was true. In fact, *even on her OWN Web page*, Shimoff doesn't claim what you said. The copy reads, ...one of the bestselling female nonfiction authors of all time, so it appears that you made up this particular lie ALL BY YOURSELF. What do you have to say for yourself, Share? From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 12:56 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls Jeez, turq, now you're blaming the TMO for chicken soup?! FYI, Jack Canfield and Rick Hanson never lived in FF, though Marci Shimoff did. Read it and weep: Marci Shimoff is the best selling, non fiction, woman authorof all time. Put that in your pipe and smoke it. PS Making any progress on that thorn in your paw? From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 3:47 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls . Interesting article about a phenomenon that as I remember had its start in Fairfield. Descriptions of this Literary Pinnacle Of Newage Crap in the article like awful, mawkish, obvious, painful, unbearable, unenjoyable, and scarring and a noxious sludge of sentimental woo-woo just don't do its horriblenessitude justice. Someone I had known back in the TM movement once tried set me up on a coffee date with one of the Chicken Soup authors. It was horrific, almost the worst date in my life (for the record, the worst was with Barbara De Angelis)...I lasted less than five minutes before making some excuse and running away, and had to wash my ears out in the coffeeshop restroom before I felt human again. What Makes the Chicken Soup for the Soul Series So Addictive and Awful? What Makes the Chicken Soup for the Soul Series So Addic... My romance with Chicken Soup for the Soul began and ended with the adolescent
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls
For the record, it was this same blatant disregard of truth and any semblance of reality that had me running away after five minutes. I see that nothing has changed in terms of her attention-seeking behavior in all these years. From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 2:19 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls So all *three* of you lied, or have no regard whatsoever for the truth. Good to know. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 2:09 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls I repeated something about Marci that was said by one of her best friends during a teleclass they were co-hosting. Marci did not correct her so I assumed it was true. From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 7:06 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls Still, you lied. Deal with it. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls Nope turq, I heard it from one of Marci's best friends and co hostess during a teleclass. Neither one of them are associated with TM any more. And I own no chicken soup books! From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 6:56 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls So you're trying to make the point that the world has terrible taste in non-fiction? That's not news. Me, I'll stick with awful, mawkish, obvious, painful, unbearable, unenjoyable, and scarring and a noxious sludge of sentimental woo-woo. :-) Besides, a quick scan of this page http://www.abebooks.com/blog/index.php/2014/01/17/the-75-greatest-living-female-authors/ reveals that Marci Shimoff's name does not appear on it anywhere. The list *does* comprise both fiction and non-fiction, but there are at least 7 female authors on the list who write non-fiction, none of them Marci Shimoff. I suspect you have done your usual thing and have chosen to believe marketing fiction created by Shimoff's publisher and accept it as if it were true. It isn't. Marci Shimoff doesn't even have her own Wikipedia page, something one might have expected if what you claim about her book sales were true. In other words, ONCE AGAIN you've chosen to believe a lie that makes you feel good about something/someone TM-related, rather than expend even the slightest effort to see whether the lie was true. In fact, *even on her OWN Web page*, Shimoff doesn't claim what you said. The copy reads, ...one of the bestselling female nonfiction authors of all time, so it appears that you made up this particular lie ALL BY YOURSELF. What do you have to say for yourself, Share? From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 12:56 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls Jeez, turq, now you're blaming the TMO for chicken soup?! FYI, Jack Canfield and Rick Hanson never lived in FF, though Marci Shimoff did. Read it and weep: Marci Shimoff is the best selling, non fiction, woman authorof all time. Put that in your pipe and smoke it. PS Making any progress on that thorn in your paw? From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 3:47 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls . Interesting article about a phenomenon that as I remember had its start in Fairfield. Descriptions of this Literary Pinnacle Of Newage Crap in the article like awful, mawkish, obvious, painful, unbearable, unenjoyable, and scarring and a noxious sludge of sentimental woo-woo just don't do its horriblenessitude justice. Someone I had known back in the TM movement once tried set me up on a
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More American Stupidity
I think we can spread the work around - lots of 1/2 time jobs rather than 40-50 hrs per week per person. SEems the only way to spread the money as well. But then we all have o be willing to reduce our standard of living. A big impediment to people's willingness to work less than fulltime has been lack of universal health care coverage and decent care for the elderly (ie no pension). And maybe we have too many people on the planet. All good concepts, but how to begin to make a shift?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Only The Lonely, was There may be a God after all...
On 11/8/2014 4:40 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Sort of strange isn't it. /It can be very strange and lonely being an expat, Steve. Unlike the U.S., where we have parks, malls and dance halls to go to and meet people.// It's a good thing we have social media now or some people might just go bat-shit crazy with the loneliness!/ /LoL! / You look at someone's facebook page, and suddenly you're a STALKER. /At least now you know that Barry doesn't want to be your FB friend, otherwise you would probably have got an invite from him by now. Go figure. /
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Birth of the Hippies
On 11/8/2014 5:18 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: wouldn't ya just love to hear a definition of real mediation anyone want to step to the plate? /meditation: –noun 1. to think calm thoughts in order to relax or as a religious activity: Sophie meditates for 20 minutes every day. 2. to think seriously about something for a long time: He meditated on the consequences of his decision. Source: Cambridge University Dictionary/ ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Anyone ignorant enough to post that Huxley was unfamiliar with meditation (see jr post below) has clearly never read his best novel, Island. Huxley was practicing real meditation decades before Maharishi invented his faux version and called it TM. *From:* jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, November 8, 2014 6:34 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Birth of the Hippies Bhairitu, Good point. According to Wikipedia, Huxley had association with the Vendanta society: Association with Vedanta[edit http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Aldous_Huxleyaction=editsection=6] Beginning in 1939 and continuing until his death in 1963, Huxley had an extensive association with the Vedanta Society of Southern California http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vedanta_Society_of_Southern_California, founded and headed by Swami Prabhavananda http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swami_Prabhavananda. Together with Gerald Heard http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_Heard, Christopher Isherwood http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Isherwood, and other followers he was initiated by the Swami and was taught meditation and spiritual practices.^[3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aldous_Huxley#cite_note-FOOTNOTERoy2003-3 In 1944, Huxley wrote the introduction to the Bhagavad Gita: The Song of God,^[22] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aldous_Huxley#cite_note-IsherwoodSwami_Prabhavananda1987-22 translated by Swami Prabhavanada and Christopher Isherwood, which was published by The Vedanta Society of Southern California. From 1941 until 1960, Huxley contributed 48 articles to /Vedanta and the West/, published by the Society. He also served on the editorial board with Isherwood, Heard, and playwright John van Druten from 1951 through 1962. Huxley also occasionally lectured at the Hollywood and Santa Barbara Vedanta temples. Two of those lectures have been released on CD: /Knowledge and Understanding/ and /Who Are We/ from 1955. After the publication of /The Doors of Perception http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Doors_of_Perception/, Huxley and the Swami disagreed about the meaning and importance of the LSD drug experience, which may have caused the relationship to cool, but Huxley continued to write articles for the Society's journal, lecture at the temple, and attend social functions. His agnosticism, together with his speculative propensity, made it difficult for him to fully embrace any form of institutionalized religion.^Aldous Huxley - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aldous_Huxley#cite_note-23 image http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aldous_Huxley#cite_note-23 Aldous Huxley - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aldous_Huxley#cite_note-23 Aldous Leonard Huxley /ˈhʌksli/ (26 July 1894 – 22 November 1963) was an English writer, philosopher and a prominent member of the Huxley family... View on en.wikipedia.org http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aldous_Huxley#cite_note-23 Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : What about the Vedanta Society? What about Paramahansa Yogananda? Arthur Avalon? Not to mention relatively unknowns who probably migrated to the UK and taught yoga. On 11/07/2014 05:49 PM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: S3, Huxley didn't appear to know about the advantages of meditation. Obviously, during his lifetime, TM was not around then. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... mailto:s3raphita@... wrote : Aldous Huxley quote (1931): So far as I can see, the only possible new pleasure would be one derived from the invention of a new drug — of a more efficient and less harmful substitute for alcohol and cocaine. If I were a millionaire, I should endow a band of research workers to look for the ideal intoxicant. If we could sniff or swallow something that would, for five or six hours each day, abolish our solitude as individuals, atone us with our fellows in a glowing exaltation of affection and make life in all its aspects seem not only worth living, but divinely beautiful and significant, and if this heavenly, world-transfiguring drug were of such a kind that we could wake up next
[FairfieldLife] How Anamay Ashram Started
Interview with Ashutosh Urs, Anamay Ashram, Himalaya, part I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnbB1qRbric https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnbB1qRbric Interview with Ashutosh Urs, Anamay Ashram, Himalaya... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnbB1qRbric For more information see: http://anamayashram.org. Ashutosh describes in this interview how Maharishi asked him to come to India and dedicat... View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnbB1qRbric Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Religion is just SO entertaining
I call your Catholic and raise you an extremely ignorant Protestant. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVjStWtQPYM Starbucks Using Sodomites' Semen In Lattes View on www.youtube.com Preview by Yahoo From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 2:04 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Religion is just SO entertaining I mean, really. A guy dressed like this who claims to be affronted by homosexuals? Vatican Fashion Icon Facing Another Possible Demotion Vatican Fashion Icon Facing Another Possible Demotion Pope Francis may be preparing to once again demote American Cardinal Raymond Burke, a Vatican fashion icon and the divisive and virulently homophobic leader of... View on www.bilerico.com Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More American Stupidity
Right It's being regulated away. Every time the government passes a law
that says you can't do this or you must do that, we lose a little bit more
freedom. Unfortunately, we continue to put ourselves in those positions by our
own choices of action.
From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
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Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More American Stupidity
But Mike, imo we don't really have free enterprise in this country.
From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
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Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2014 9:36 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More American Stupidity
Capitalism is the best system for the disabled, sick and old age. Wealth is
created abundantly by capitalism which can be taxed and provide a safety net.
People can also provide for themselves better and the smart ones save for their
future.. Most, if not all, union pension plans are heavily invested in
capitalism which pays their member benefits. Ask the people of the former
Soviet Union and China if they prefer capitalism or old Soviet central planning
with Socialism. Governments don't generate wealth, they just take it away and
redistribute it. Free enterprise generates wealth. Ask any rich person or
person aspiring to be rich. With an abundance of wealth, good things can be
done and planned for. The Soviet Union couldn't clean up they environmental
messes they created.
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Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2014 7:05 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More American Stupidity
I think capitalism is often a good thing, but the problem is that it gets
applied to every area - and some things don't flourish under capitalism. some
things just don't work well with that approach - like taking care of the
disabled, or people getting sick, or old age. People need help from time to
time, and the unlucky ones need more help than average. But beyond that, it is
going to be a terrible problem to change our approach to the economy, and to
begin to somehow not think of success as perpetual growth growing and getting
bigger and more profitable. I just cannot imagine how this is going to play
out once climate change becomes a scary and very real emergency for us all.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More American Stupidity
Share, there's nothing wrong with being *hyper rich*, if that's what you want. I think what you and Bhairitu would object to is *how* one becomes *hyper rich*. Do you do it by hard work and creativity or do you steal and cheat or manipultae in an unethicle manor. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 4:23 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More American Stupidity Bhairitu, thinking about my family some more: rich people want to be hyper rich and they think Republicans will help them achieve that. I think that's the big mistake they make. From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2014 9:21 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More American Stupidity The vote was reactionary. California had a very low turnout because people were so disillusioned. Those who voted Republican thinking they would fix things will learn differently over the next couple of years. On 11/08/2014 07:12 PM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Right, but in terms of the number of votes that were needed to bring the Republicans back into power, we're talking about more than a handful of billionaires. It's all the millionaires down the street who voted the Republicans into power. From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2014 8:50 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More American Stupidity I'm not talking small business rich. When we say rich these days we want to dispense with the clumsiness of saying super rich or uber rich etc. Intelligent people know what we mean when we say the rich and that we don't mean the millionaire down the street. On 11/08/2014 06:36 PM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Bhairitu, my Dad and stepMom grew up in the Depression. My Dad started working for his Dad when he was 16, didn't even finish high school. When I was little, we were lucky if we got 5 cents for a popcicle. What I'm saying is that I think the extravagance came later and I think people who grew up in the Depression and then worked hard, feel like they deserve the good life now. Where I see people a little spoiled are my sister's kids. They're in their early forties and late thirties, grew up really comfortable, wearing expensive sneakers, driving expensive cars from age 16, etc. Heck, we wore Keds and I learned to drive in a VW. From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2014 7:21 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More American Stupidity Capitalism is like candy and the rich like spoiled kids. They just want more and more candy. Hence they get fat and cranky and want their way all the time. What we need to do is take away their candy from them and let them dry out. Otherwise they become a complete drag on society. Free enterprise is not a bad idea about capitalism run amok is very dangerous. Sometimes you just have to shut things down and spank the miscreants. On 11/08/2014 04:46 PM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Wayback, I've read Klein online and found her to be a compelling writer. But when I think about my Dad and stepMom, staunch Republicans, I bet they never even heard of Silent Spring or Rachel Carson. Even though my Dad's a nature lover. Mostly what they know is being small and successful business owners. They're gonna choose capitalism over climate every time. My guess is most Republicans will simply label Klein a liberal and not pay much attention to what she has to report. From: waybac...@yahoo.com[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2014 5:27 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: More American Stupidity An important new book just came out about capitalism and climate change: This Changes Everything: Capitalism vs. the Climate, by Naomi Klein. But the converted, anti SUV folks are probably the only ones who will read it. The review in today's NY Times called it the most important environmental book since Rachel Carson's Silent Spring. (I gave a book report on Silent Spring in high school, so it made an impression). I will have to pop an antidepressant before reading Klein's book, which I intend to do as soon as the library gets it. I think the gist is that capitalism as we know it cannot continue if we intend to deal with climate change.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More American Stupidity
Bingo!
From: jason_gre...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
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Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: More American Stupidity
Mike, the problem is not capitalism. It's crass consumerism
or hyper-consumerism as some would call it. It leads to
voracious unsustainable consumption of resources.
In fact, this problem existed even in ancient times, a lot
of ancient civilisations collapsed due to rampant tree
cutting and ecological degradation. It soon became
unsustainable.
This is exactly the reason, the entire taxation methodology
must be changed. Taxation should be based on consumption and
not on income. For instance, if you earn 20,000 $ a month
but spend only 2,000 $ out of that. You put the rest 18,000$
in bank. You should be taxed only for that 2,000 $ you
spent.
The interest rate in banks are artificially low. Some
incentive should be given to people to save money in banks.
--- mdixon.6569@... wrote :
Capitalism is the best system for the disabled, sick and old age. Wealth is
created abundantly by capitalism which can be taxed and provide a safety net.
People can also provide for themselves better and the smart ones save for their
future.. Most, if not all, union pension plans are heavily invested in
capitalism which pays their member benefits. Ask the people of the former
Soviet Union and China if they prefer capitalism or old Soviet central planning
with Socialism. Governments don't generate wealth, they just take it away and
redistribute it. Free enterprise generates wealth. Ask any rich person or
person aspiring to be rich. With an abundance of wealth, good things can be
done and planned for. The Soviet Union couldn't clean up they environmental
messes they created.
So we all end up like the Soviet Union and pre-capitalist China. Plenty of
nothing to go around for everybody. Did you ever see or hear about the Soviet
era enviornment? Plenty of mess to clean up but no money to do it. But then we
will *make* them do it... for mother Russia!
From: Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Capitalism is like candy and the richlike spoiled kids. They just want more
and more candy. Hencethey get fat and cranky and want their way all the time.
What weneed to do is take away their candy from them and let them dryout.
Otherwise they become a complete drag on society.
Free enterprise is not a bad idea about capitalism run amok isvery dangerous.
Sometimes you just have to shut things down andspank the miscreants.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Birth of the Hippies
Thanks Richard, I'd enjoy hearing someone talk about why TM is lite meditation, and why their form of meditation is so much better. But I've a feeling, I may be waiting a while for that. It may not be something they want to defend. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 11/8/2014 5:18 PM, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: wouldn't ya just love to hear a definition of real mediation anyone want to step to the plate? meditation: –noun 1. to think calm thoughts in order to relax or as a religious activity: Sophie meditates for 20 minutes every day. 2. to think seriously about something for a long time: He meditated on the consequences of his decision. Source: Cambridge University Dictionary ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... wrote : Anyone ignorant enough to post that Huxley was unfamiliar with meditation (see jr post below) has clearly never read his best novel, Island. Huxley was practicing real meditation decades before Maharishi invented his faux version and called it TM. From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] mailto:jr_esq@...[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2014 6:34 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Birth of the Hippies Bhairitu, Good point. According to Wikipedia, Huxley had association with the Vendanta society: Association with Vedanta[edit http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Aldous_Huxleyaction=editsection=6] Beginning in 1939 and continuing until his death in 1963, Huxley had an extensive association with the Vedanta Society of Southern California, founded and headed by Swami Prabhavananda. Together with Gerald Heard, Christopher Isherwood, and other followers he was initiated by the Swami and was taught meditation and spiritual practices.[3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aldous_Huxley#cite_note-FOOTNOTERoy2003-3 In 1944, Huxley wrote the introduction to the Bhagavad Gita: The Song of God,[22] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aldous_Huxley#cite_note-IsherwoodSwami_Prabhavananda1987-22 translated by Swami Prabhavanada and Christopher Isherwood, which was published by The Vedanta Society of Southern California. From 1941 until 1960, Huxley contributed 48 articles to Vedanta and the West, published by the Society. He also served on the editorial board with Isherwood, Heard, and playwright John van Druten from 1951 through 1962. Huxley also occasionally lectured at the Hollywood and Santa Barbara Vedanta temples. Two of those lectures have been released on CD: Knowledge and Understanding and Who Are We from 1955. After the publication of The Doors of Perception, Huxley and the Swami disagreed about the meaning and importance of the LSD drug experience, which may have caused the relationship to cool, but Huxley continued to write articles for the Society's journal, lecture at the temple, and attend social functions. His agnosticism, together with his speculative propensity, made it difficult for him to fully embrace any form of institutionalized religion.Aldous Huxley - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aldous_Huxley#cite_note-23 Aldous Huxley - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Aldous Leonard Huxley /ˈhʌksli/ (26 July 1894 – 22 November 1963) was an English writer, philosopher and a prominent member of the Huxley family... View on en.wikipedia.org Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : What about the Vedanta Society? What about Paramahansa Yogananda? Arthur Avalon? Not to mention relatively unknowns who probably migrated to the UK and taught yoga. On 11/07/2014 05:49 PM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: S3, Huxley didn't appear to know about the advantages of meditation. Obviously, during his lifetime, TM was not around then. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... mailto:s3raphita@... wrote : Aldous Huxley quote (1931): So far as I can see, the only possible new pleasure would be one derived from the invention of a new drug — of a more efficient and less harmful substitute for alcohol and cocaine. If I were a millionaire, I should endow a band of research workers to look for the ideal intoxicant. If we could sniff or swallow something that would, for five or six hours each day, abolish our solitude as individuals, atone us with our fellows in a glowing exaltation of affection and make life in all its aspects seem not only worth living, but divinely beautiful and significant, and if this heavenly, world-transfiguring drug were of such a kind that we
Re: [FairfieldLife] Religion is just SO entertaining
This revelation puts an entirely different spin on the concept of coffee cream art. I shudder to think what dispenser these sodomites are using to create these designs... :-) From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 3:05 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Religion is just SO entertaining I call your Catholic and raise you an extremely ignorant Protestant. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVjStWtQPYM Starbucks Using Sodomites' Semen In Lattes View on www.youtube.com Preview by Yahoo From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 2:04 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Religion is just SO entertaining I mean, really. A guy dressed like this who claims to be affronted by homosexuals? Vatican Fashion Icon Facing Another Possible Demotion Vatican Fashion Icon Facing Another Possible Demotion Pope Francis may be preparing to once again demote American Cardinal Raymond Burke, a Vatican fashion icon and the divisive and virulently homophobic leader of... View on www.bilerico.com Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More American Stupidity
I'm all for letting your own ambition drive you. I don't care if somebody wants
to work 50 to 60 hours a week or wants to work just enough to get by. Follow
your dreams! My personal attitude about life is that nobody owes me anything.
If I want something, it's up to me to get it. I don't expect anybody to take up
the slack for what I want and what I can afford. Ambition has it's merits ...
and demerits.
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I think we can spread the work around - lots of 1/2 time jobs rather than
40-50 hrs per week per person. SEems the only way to spread the money as well.
But then we all have o be willing to reduce our standard of living. A big
impediment to people's willingness to work less than fulltime has been lack of
universal health care coverage and decent care for the elderly (ie no pension).
And maybe we have too many people on the planet. All good concepts, but how
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Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls
Easy to make that mistake when one of the first links that comes up, states: #1 New York Times Best Selling Author Not exactly in the category of a lie, I'd say. Maybe a mis-attribution Marci Shimoff - Keynote Speaker Author http://www.happyfornoreason.com/about.asp http://www.happyfornoreason.com/about.asp Marci Shimoff - Keynote Speaker Author http://www.happyfornoreason.com/about.asp Marci Shimoff, motivational keynote speaker and author. View on www.happyfornoreaso... http://www.happyfornoreason.com/about.asp Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Because some here seem to like him...
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : The Unbelievable Skepticism of the Amazing Randi http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/09/magazine/the-unbelievable-skepticism-of-the-amazing-randi.html http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/09/magazine/the-unbelievable-skepticism-of-the-amazing-randi.html The Unbelievable Skepticism of the Amazing Randi http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/09/magazine/the-unbelievable-skepticism-of-the-amazing-randi.html An expert magician, avid debunker and scourge of spiritualists and con men prepares for the final curtain. View on www.nytimes.com http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/09/magazine/the-unbelievable-skepticism-of-the-amazing-randi.html Preview by Yahoo I really like this man. He is so unique and brave and he's got real style! good article.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Low Tide at Ocean Beach
Nice description - That is a pretty rare thing, no wind at Ocean Beach - When I boogey boarded a lot, I'd always get out around 4 at the latest, as it is then feeding time. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : As I walked at the water's edge, it appeared that a few people ahead of me were walking on water. This was the lowest tide that I've ever seen at this beach. The water's edge was about 300 yards away from the paved pedestrian lane. I saw the sun set in the reddened western sky in the sign of Libra. The temperature was like summer with no wind. As I was shaking the sand off my feet near the parking lot, a black guy asked me if I saw his wife walk by. I said, No, I didn't see her. A surfer asked me to help him zip his wet suit from his back shoulder. Then, he stepped down the beach steps with his surfboard to ride the evening waves.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More American Stupidity
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote : I'm all for letting your own ambition drive you. I don't care if somebody wants to work 50 to 60 hours a week or wants to work just enough to get by. Follow your dreams! My personal attitude about life is that nobody owes me anything. If I want something, it's up to me to get it. I don't expect anybody to take up the slack for what I want and what I can afford. Ambition has it's merits ... and demerits. Agreed. From: wayback71@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 5:38 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More American Stupidity I think we can spread the work around - lots of 1/2 time jobs rather than 40-50 hrs per week per person. SEems the only way to spread the money as well. But then we all have o be willing to reduce our standard of living. A big impediment to people's willingness to work less than fulltime has been lack of universal health care coverage and decent care for the elderly (ie no pension). And maybe we have too many people on the planet. All good concepts, but how to begin to make a shift?
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls
turq, my conscience is clear: I repeated what I thought was true. I now assume the friend didn't have the exact details and was being enthusiastic. I now assume the author was being gracious about her friend's enthusiasm. I'm assuming the best. Why not? From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 7:19 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls So all *three* of you lied, or have no regard whatsoever for the truth. Good to know. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 2:09 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls I repeated something about Marci that was said by one of her best friends during a teleclass they were co-hosting. Marci did not correct her so I assumed it was true. From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 7:06 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls Still, you lied. Deal with it. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls Nope turq, I heard it from one of Marci's best friends and co hostess during a teleclass. Neither one of them are associated with TM any more. And I own no chicken soup books! From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 6:56 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls So you're trying to make the point that the world has terrible taste in non-fiction? That's not news. Me, I'll stick with awful, mawkish, obvious, painful, unbearable, unenjoyable, and scarring and a noxious sludge of sentimental woo-woo. :-) Besides, a quick scan of this page http://www.abebooks.com/blog/index.php/2014/01/17/the-75-greatest-living-female-authors/ reveals that Marci Shimoff's name does not appear on it anywhere. The list *does* comprise both fiction and non-fiction, but there are at least 7 female authors on the list who write non-fiction, none of them Marci Shimoff. I suspect you have done your usual thing and have chosen to believe marketing fiction created by Shimoff's publisher and accept it as if it were true. It isn't. Marci Shimoff doesn't even have her own Wikipedia page, something one might have expected if what you claim about her book sales were true. In other words, ONCE AGAIN you've chosen to believe a lie that makes you feel good about something/someone TM-related, rather than expend even the slightest effort to see whether the lie was true. In fact, *even on her OWN Web page*, Shimoff doesn't claim what you said. The copy reads, ...one of the bestselling female nonfiction authors of all time, so it appears that you made up this particular lie ALL BY YOURSELF. What do you have to say for yourself, Share? From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 12:56 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls Jeez, turq, now you're blaming the TMO for chicken soup?! FYI, Jack Canfield and Rick Hanson never lived in FF, though Marci Shimoff did. Read it and weep: Marci Shimoff is the best selling, non fiction, woman author of all time. Put that in your pipe and smoke it. PS Making any progress on that thorn in your paw? From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 3:47 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls . Interesting article about a phenomenon that as I remember had its start in Fairfield. Descriptions of this Literary Pinnacle Of Newage Crap in the article like awful, mawkish, obvious, painful, unbearable, unenjoyable, and scarring and a noxious sludge of sentimental woo-woo just don't do its horriblenessitude justice. Someone I had known back in the TM movement once tried set me up on a coffee date with one of the Chicken Soup authors. It was horrific, almost the worst date in my life (for the record, the worst was with Barbara De Angelis)...I
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More American Stupidity
wayback, some spiritual teachers think the shift is already happening. And I
notice that as the sunlight increases, the shade gets darker. So some things
may get better and some may get worse during the transformation.
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I think we can spread the work around - lots of 1/2 time jobs rather than
40-50 hrs per week per person. SEems the only way to spread the money as well.
But then we all have o be willing to reduce our standard of living. A big
impediment to people's willingness to work less than fulltime has been lack of
universal health care coverage and decent care for the elderly (ie no pension).
And maybe we have too many people on the planet. All good concepts, but how
to begin to make a shift? #yiv9521944814 #yiv9521944814 --
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More American Stupidity
Mike, I think some of the hyper rich have bought govt support. That's what I think is wrong. And I agree, nothing wrong with wanting to be super wealthy. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 8:19 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More American Stupidity Share, there's nothing wrong with being *hyper rich*, if that's what you want. I think what you and Bhairitu would object to is *how* one becomes *hyper rich*. Do you do it by hard work and creativity or do you steal and cheat or manipultae in an unethicle manor. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 4:23 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More American Stupidity Bhairitu, thinking about my family some more: rich people want to be hyper rich and they think Republicans will help them achieve that. I think that's the big mistake they make. From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2014 9:21 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More American Stupidity The vote was reactionary. California had a very low turnout because people were so disillusioned. Those who voted Republican thinking they would fix things will learn differently over the next couple of years. On 11/08/2014 07:12 PM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Right, but in terms of the number of votes that were needed to bring the Republicans back into power, we're talking about more than a handful of billionaires. It's all the millionaires down the street who voted the Republicans into power. From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2014 8:50 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More American Stupidity I'm not talking small business rich. When we say rich these days we want to dispense with the clumsiness of saying super rich or uber rich etc. Intelligent people know what we mean when we say the rich and that we don't mean the millionaire down the street. On 11/08/2014 06:36 PM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Bhairitu, my Dad and stepMom grew up in the Depression. My Dad started working for his Dad when he was 16, didn't even finish high school. When I was little, we were lucky if we got 5 cents for a popcicle. What I'm saying is that I think the extravagance came later and I think people who grew up in the Depression and then worked hard, feel like they deserve the good life now. Where I see people a little spoiled are my sister's kids. They're in their early forties and late thirties, grew up really comfortable, wearing expensive sneakers, driving expensive cars from age 16, etc. Heck, we wore Keds and I learned to drive in a VW. From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2014 7:21 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More American Stupidity Capitalism is like candy and the rich like spoiled kids. They just want more and more candy. Hence they get fat and cranky and want their way all the time. What we need to do is take away their candy from them and let them dry out. Otherwise they become a complete drag on society. Free enterprise is not a bad idea about capitalism run amok is very dangerous. Sometimes you just have to shut things down and spank the miscreants. On 11/08/2014 04:46 PM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Wayback, I've read Klein online and found her to be a compelling writer. But when I think about my Dad and stepMom, staunch Republicans, I bet they never even heard of Silent Spring or Rachel Carson. Even though my Dad's a nature lover. Mostly what they know is being small and successful business owners. They're gonna choose capitalism over climate every time. My guess is most Republicans will simply label Klein a liberal and not pay much attention to what she has to report. From: waybac...@yahoo.com[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2014 5:27 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: More American Stupidity An important new book just came out about capitalism and climate change: This Changes Everything: Capitalism vs. the Climate, by Naomi Klein. But the converted, anti SUV folks are probably the only ones who will read it. The review in today's NY Times called it the most important environmental
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls
What's wrong with saying, I was WRONG? Marci Shimoff is NOT 'the bestselling female nonfiction author of all time,' even though (given your own story, Share) she clearly intentionally allowed her friend to give me and a group of people that impression. THAT, at least, would be honest of you. To continue evading any responsibility for repeating this fiction...uh...tends to convey the impression that you're in on the deception yourself. As for 'just repeating what you thought was true, several people have called you over the years here on FFL on your tendency to do that WITHOUT CHECKING TO SEE WHETHER WHAT YOU'RE REPEATING AS TRUTH REALLY WAS. You do this over and over and over and over, with everything from repeating scare stories about Ebola that aren't true to recommending health care people who are proven quacks. Do you really NOT feel that when you repeat something you are presenting as truth you owe the people you're talking to a little effort to *find out if it's true* first? I'm pointing this out because it's part of a PATTERN among these ex-TMers who went on to become New Age gurus . John Gray and Barbara De Angelis presented themselves as Ph.Ds to further their Woo Woo careers *after buying those degrees from a paper mill on the Internet*. Do you think that might be construed as a little...uh...dishonest? Marci Shimoff clearly believes it's OK to allow one of her co-presenters to LIE about the extent of her book sales during one of her classes. Do you think there might be a little something off ethically about *that*? And YOU, rather than just saying, OK, I was really stupid. I just repeated something that someone told me as truth without ever checking to see it was true, you're bobbing and weaving and trying not to take any responsibility for it. Your conscience is clear because you repeated some things that you thought were true without doing *anything* to determine whether they *were* true? What's up with that? Why should we assume that you're not exhibiting this same pattern of intentional deception that the other three people I mention are exhibiting? Seems to me that if it looks like a duck and waddles like a duck, chances are it's a duck. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 4:32 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls turq, my conscience is clear: I repeated what I thought was true. I now assume the friend didn't have the exact details and was being enthusiastic. I now assume the author was being gracious about her friend's enthusiasm. I'm assuming the best. Why not? From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 7:19 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls So all *three* of you lied, or have no regard whatsoever for the truth. Good to know. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 2:09 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls I repeated something about Marci that was said by one of her best friends during a teleclass they were co-hosting. Marci did not correct her so I assumed it was true. From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 7:06 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls Still, you lied. Deal with it. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls Nope turq, I heard it from one of Marci's best friends and co hostess during a teleclass. Neither one of them are associated with TM any more. And I own no chicken soup books! From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 6:56 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls So you're trying to make the point that the world has terrible taste in non-fiction? That's not news. Me, I'll stick with awful, mawkish,
Re: [FairfieldLife] Congratulations, Voters. You Just Made This Climate Denier the Most Powerful Senator on the Environment.
On 11/6/2014 2:48 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: So blame the non-existent Marshy Effect - and come to think of it, I bet the TMO will blame the election results on the lack of numbers in the Domes (which they themselves continually sabotage as Buck has said) and will use that excuse to exhort the faithful to contribute MORE money to the TMO and the yagya programmes so they can get the sattvic Democrats back in office, you know like Liar Obama whom the Movement took credit for electing 6 years ago? /It looks like we can forget getting an unbiased opinion from this informant. I wonder how that King Foo is working out for him? Go figure./ *From:* nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, November 6, 2014 12:46 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Congratulations, Voters. You Just Made This Climate Denier the Most Powerful Senator on the Environment. http://www.newrepublic.com/article/120134/climate-change-denier-james-inhofe-lead-environment-committee
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls
On 11/9/2014 3:47 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I lasted less than five minutes before making some excuse and running away, and had to wash my ears out in the coffeeshop restroom before I felt human again. /Did you meet up with Rama in the coffee shop restroom?/
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls
On 11/9/2014 5:56 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Jeez, turq, now you're blaming the TMO for chicken soup?! FYI, Jack Canfield and Rick Hanson never lived in FF, though Marci Shimoff did. Read it and weep: Marci Shimoff is the best selling, non fiction, woman author/of all time/. Put that in your pipe and smoke it. PS Making any progress on that thorn in your paw? /Maybe he is upset, Share, because he had to pay for the coffee on his five-minute date with Barbara. Go figure./ *From:* TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Sunday, November 9, 2014 3:47 AM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls . Interesting article about a phenomenon that as I remember had its start in Fairfield. Descriptions of this Literary Pinnacle Of Newage Crap in the article like awful, mawkish, obvious, painful, unbearable, unenjoyable, and scarring and a noxious sludge of sentimental woo-woo just don't do its horriblenessitude justice. Someone I had known back in the TM movement once tried set me up on a coffee date with one of the Chicken Soup authors. It was horrific, almost the worst date in my life (for the record, the worst was with Barbara De Angelis)...I lasted less than five minutes before making some excuse and running away, and had to wash my ears out in the coffeeshop restroom before I felt human again. What Makes the Chicken Soup for the Soul Series So Addictive and Awful? http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/books/2014/11/history_of_the_chicken_soup_for_the_soul_series_a_critical_evaluation.2.html image http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/books/2014/11/history_of_the_chicken_soup_for_the_soul_series_a_critical_evaluation.2.html What Makes the Chicken Soup for the Soul Series So Addic... http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/books/2014/11/history_of_the_chicken_soup_for_the_soul_series_a_critical_evaluation.2.html My romance with Chicken Soup for the Soul began and ended with the adolescent iteration, Chicken Soup for the Teenage Soul, and it was fostered in part because I re... View on www.slate.com http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/books/2014/11/history_of_the_chicken_soup_for_the_soul_series_a_critical_evaluation.2.html Preview by Yahoo
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Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls
turq, it's simple: I know the 2 people personally and trust them. And in that moment, on that call, I felt no intention to deceive from either of them. That's why I didn't check what was said. And I stand by the positive impression that I had. From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 9:56 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls What's wrong with saying, I was WRONG? Marci Shimoff is NOT 'the bestselling female nonfiction author of all time,' even though (given your own story, Share) she clearly intentionally allowed her friend to give me and a group of people that impression. THAT, at least, would be honest of you. To continue evading any responsibility for repeating this fiction...uh...tends to convey the impression that you're in on the deception yourself. As for 'just repeating what you thought was true, several people have called you over the years here on FFL on your tendency to do that WITHOUT CHECKING TO SEE WHETHER WHAT YOU'RE REPEATING AS TRUTH REALLY WAS. You do this over and over and over and over, with everything from repeating scare stories about Ebola that aren't true to recommending health care people who are proven quacks. Do you really NOT feel that when you repeat something you are presenting as truth you owe the people you're talking to a little effort to *find out if it's true* first? I'm pointing this out because it's part of a PATTERN among these ex-TMers who went on to become New Age gurus . John Gray and Barbara De Angelis presented themselves as Ph.Ds to further their Woo Woo careers *after buying those degrees from a paper mill on the Internet*. Do you think that might be construed as a little...uh...dishonest? Marci Shimoff clearly believes it's OK to allow one of her co-presenters to LIE about the extent of her book sales during one of her classes. Do you think there might be a little something off ethically about *that*? And YOU, rather than just saying, OK, I was really stupid. I just repeated something that someone told me as truth without ever checking to see it was true, you're bobbing and weaving and trying not to take any responsibility for it. Your conscience is clear because you repeated some things that you thought were true without doing *anything* to determine whether they *were* true? What's up with that? Why should we assume that you're not exhibiting this same pattern of intentional deception that the other three people I mention are exhibiting? Seems to me that if it looks like a duck and waddles like a duck, chances are it's a duck. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 4:32 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls turq, my conscience is clear: I repeated what I thought was true. I now assume the friend didn't have the exact details and was being enthusiastic. I now assume the author was being gracious about her friend's enthusiasm. I'm assuming the best. Why not? From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 7:19 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls So all *three* of you lied, or have no regard whatsoever for the truth. Good to know. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 2:09 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls I repeated something about Marci that was said by one of her best friends during a teleclass they were co-hosting. Marci did not correct her so I assumed it was true. From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 7:06 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls Still, you lied. Deal with it. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls Nope turq, I heard it from one of Marci's best friends and co hostess during a teleclass. Neither one of them are associated with TM any more. And I own no chicken soup books! From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls
Richard, thanks for making me laugh.
From: 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 10:09 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls
On 11/9/2014 5:56 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
wrote:
Jeez, turq, now you're blaming the TMO for chicken soup?! FYI, Jack
Canfield and Rick Hanson never lived in FF, though Marci Shimoff did. Read it
and weep: Marci Shimoff is the best selling, non fiction, woman author of all
time. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
PS Making any progress on that thorn in your paw?
Maybe he is upset, Share, because he had to pay for the coffee on his
five-minute date with Barbara. Go figure.
From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 3:47 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls
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Interesting article about a phenomenon that as I remember had its start
in Fairfield. Descriptions of this Literary Pinnacle Of Newage Crap in the
article like awful, mawkish, obvious, painful, unbearable, unenjoyable, and
scarring and a noxious sludge of sentimental woo-woo just don't do its
horriblenessitude justice.
Someone I had known back in the TM movement once tried set me up on a coffee
date with one of the Chicken Soup authors. It was horrific, almost the worst
date in my life (for the record, the worst was with Barbara De Angelis)...I
lasted less than five minutes before making some excuse and running away, and
had to wash my ears out in the coffeeshop restroom before I felt human again.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls [1 Attachment]
On 11/9/2014 8:36 AM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Easy to make that mistake when one of the first links that comes up, states: #1 New York Times Best Selling Author Not exactly in the category of a lie, I'd say. Maybe a mis-attribution It sounds like Barbara De Angelis was way out of Barry's league - maybe that would explain why his date with her lasted only five minutes. Maybe he should have read her books BEFORE he asked her out on a date. De Angelis has written fourteen best-selling books in these fields, including the New York Times bestselling book /How to Make Love All the Time/. Marci Shimoff - Keynote Speaker Author http://www.happyfornoreason.com/about.asp image http://www.happyfornoreason.com/about.asp Marci Shimoff - Keynote Speaker Author http://www.happyfornoreason.com/about.asp Marci Shimoff, motivational keynote speaker and author. View on www.happyfornoreaso... http://www.happyfornoreason.com/about.asp Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls
OK, thanks for making your position clear. You trust these people, so you will continue to pass along something you now know to be untrue because of your positive impression. You ARE in on the deception with them. Thanks for clarifying. I think we're done here... From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 5:13 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls turq, it's simple: I know the 2 people personally and trust them. And in that moment, on that call, I felt no intention to deceive from either of them. That's why I didn't check what was said. And I stand by the positive impression that I had. From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 9:56 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls What's wrong with saying, I was WRONG? Marci Shimoff is NOT 'the bestselling female nonfiction author of all time,' even though (given your own story, Share) she clearly intentionally allowed her friend to give me and a group of people that impression. THAT, at least, would be honest of you. To continue evading any responsibility for repeating this fiction...uh...tends to convey the impression that you're in on the deception yourself. As for 'just repeating what you thought was true, several people have called you over the years here on FFL on your tendency to do that WITHOUT CHECKING TO SEE WHETHER WHAT YOU'RE REPEATING AS TRUTH REALLY WAS. You do this over and over and over and over, with everything from repeating scare stories about Ebola that aren't true to recommending health care people who are proven quacks. Do you really NOT feel that when you repeat something you are presenting as truth you owe the people you're talking to a little effort to *find out if it's true* first? I'm pointing this out because it's part of a PATTERN among these ex-TMers who went on to become New Age gurus . John Gray and Barbara De Angelis presented themselves as Ph.Ds to further their Woo Woo careers *after buying those degrees from a paper mill on the Internet*. Do you think that might be construed as a little...uh...dishonest? Marci Shimoff clearly believes it's OK to allow one of her co-presenters to LIE about the extent of her book sales during one of her classes. Do you think there might be a little something off ethically about *that*? And YOU, rather than just saying, OK, I was really stupid. I just repeated something that someone told me as truth without ever checking to see it was true, you're bobbing and weaving and trying not to take any responsibility for it. Your conscience is clear because you repeated some things that you thought were true without doing *anything* to determine whether they *were* true? What's up with that? Why should we assume that you're not exhibiting this same pattern of intentional deception that the other three people I mention are exhibiting? Seems to me that if it looks like a duck and waddles like a duck, chances are it's a duck. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 4:32 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls turq, my conscience is clear: I repeated what I thought was true. I now assume the friend didn't have the exact details and was being enthusiastic. I now assume the author was being gracious about her friend's enthusiasm. I'm assuming the best. Why not? From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 7:19 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls So all *three* of you lied, or have no regard whatsoever for the truth. Good to know. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 2:09 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls I repeated something about Marci that was said by one of her best friends during a teleclass they were co-hosting. Marci did not correct her so I assumed it was true. From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To:
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Birth of the Hippies
On 11/9/2014 8:23 AM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Thanks Richard, I'd enjoy hearing someone talk about why TM is lite meditation, and why their form of meditation is so much better. /In reality there's no TM - that's just a acronym made up by Jerry. Everyone meditates every time they use their minds to think. There's really only one meditation and that is Life itself - what it does to you and what you do back./ But I've a feeling, I may be waiting a while for that. It may not be something they want to defend. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 11/8/2014 5:18 PM, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: wouldn't ya just love to hear a definition of real mediation anyone want to step to the plate? /meditation: –noun 1. to think calm thoughts in order to relax or as a religious activity: Sophie meditates for 20 minutes every day. 2. to think seriously about something for a long time: He meditated on the consequences of his decision. Source: Cambridge University Dictionary/ ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... wrote : Anyone ignorant enough to post that Huxley was unfamiliar with meditation (see jr post below) has clearly never read his best novel, Island. Huxley was practicing real meditation decades before Maharishi invented his faux version and called it TM. *From:* jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] mailto:jr_esq@...[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, November 8, 2014 6:34 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Birth of the Hippies Bhairitu, Good point. According to Wikipedia, Huxley had association with the Vendanta society: Association with Vedanta[edit http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Aldous_Huxleyaction=editsection=6] Beginning in 1939 and continuing until his death in 1963, Huxley had an extensive association with the Vedanta Society of Southern California http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vedanta_Society_of_Southern_California, founded and headed by Swami Prabhavananda http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swami_Prabhavananda. Together with Gerald Heard http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_Heard, Christopher Isherwood http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Isherwood, and other followers he was initiated by the Swami and was taught meditation and spiritual practices.^[3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aldous_Huxley#cite_note-FOOTNOTERoy2003-3 In 1944, Huxley wrote the introduction to the Bhagavad Gita: The Song of God,^[22] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aldous_Huxley#cite_note-IsherwoodSwami_Prabhavananda1987-22 translated by Swami Prabhavanada and Christopher Isherwood, which was published by The Vedanta Society of Southern California. From 1941 until 1960, Huxley contributed 48 articles to /Vedanta and the West/, published by the Society. He also served on the editorial board with Isherwood, Heard, and playwright John van Druten from 1951 through 1962. Huxley also occasionally lectured at the Hollywood and Santa Barbara Vedanta temples. Two of those lectures have been released on CD: /Knowledge and Understanding/ and /Who Are We/ from 1955. After the publication of /The Doors of Perception http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Doors_of_Perception/, Huxley and the Swami disagreed about the meaning and importance of the LSD drug experience, which may have caused the relationship to cool, but Huxley continued to write articles for the Society's journal, lecture at the temple, and attend social functions. His agnosticism, together with his speculative propensity, made it difficult for him to fully embrace any form of institutionalized religion.^Aldous Huxley - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aldous_Huxley#cite_note-23 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aldous_Huxley#cite_note-23 Aldous Huxley - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aldous_Huxley#cite_note-23 Aldous Leonard Huxley /ˈhʌksli/ (26 July 1894 – 22 November 1963) was an English writer, philosopher and a prominent member of the Huxley family... View on en.wikipedia.org http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aldous_Huxley#cite_note-23 Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : What about the Vedanta Society? What about Paramahansa Yogananda? Arthur
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls
I've always found it irritating when the people whose names appear on the covers of Chicken Soup books claim to be New York Times best-selling authors. These people do not even write the books. At best they are editors and compilers of collections of stories written by other people. I don't believe that Marci ever wrote a word of the Chicken Soup books that bear her name. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : OK, thanks for making your position clear. You trust these people, so you will continue to pass along something you now know to be untrue because of your positive impression. You ARE in on the deception with them. Thanks for clarifying. I think we're done here... From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 5:13 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls turq, it's simple: I know the 2 people personally and trust them. And in that moment, on that call, I felt no intention to deceive from either of them. That's why I didn't check what was said. And I stand by the positive impression that I had. From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 9:56 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls What's wrong with saying, I was WRONG? Marci Shimoff is NOT 'the bestselling female nonfiction author of all time,' even though (given your own story, Share) she clearly intentionally allowed her friend to give me and a group of people that impression. THAT, at least, would be honest of you. To continue evading any responsibility for repeating this fiction...uh...tends to convey the impression that you're in on the deception yourself. As for 'just repeating what you thought was true, several people have called you over the years here on FFL on your tendency to do that WITHOUT CHECKING TO SEE WHETHER WHAT YOU'RE REPEATING AS TRUTH REALLY WAS. You do this over and over and over and over, with everything from repeating scare stories about Ebola that aren't true to recommending health care people who are proven quacks. Do you really NOT feel that when you repeat something you are presenting as truth you owe the people you're talking to a little effort to *find out if it's true* first? I'm pointing this out because it's part of a PATTERN among these ex-TMers who went on to become New Age gurus . John Gray and Barbara De Angelis presented themselves as Ph.Ds to further their Woo Woo careers *after buying those degrees from a paper mill on the Internet*. Do you think that might be construed as a little...uh...dishonest? Marci Shimoff clearly believes it's OK to allow one of her co-presenters to LIE about the extent of her book sales during one of her classes. Do you think there might be a little something off ethically about *that*? And YOU, rather than just saying, OK, I was really stupid. I just repeated something that someone told me as truth without ever checking to see it was true, you're bobbing and weaving and trying not to take any responsibility for it. Your conscience is clear because you repeated some things that you thought were true without doing *anything* to determine whether they *were* true? What's up with that? Why should we assume that you're not exhibiting this same pattern of intentional deception that the other three people I mention are exhibiting? Seems to me that if it looks like a duck and waddles like a duck, chances are it's a duck. From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 4:32 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls turq, my conscience is clear: I repeated what I thought was true. I now assume the friend didn't have the exact details and was being enthusiastic. I now assume the author was being gracious about her friend's enthusiasm. I'm assuming the best. Why not? From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 7:19 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls So all *three* of you lied, or have no regard whatsoever for the truth. Good to know. From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 2:09 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls I repeated something
Re: [FairfieldLife] Religion is just SO entertaining
On 11/9/2014 8:05 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I call your Catholic and raise you an extremely ignorant Protestant. /Maybe it's time to remind the informants that this is supposed to be a family forum and porn is not allowed on FFL - I already told Michael I'm not gay./ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVjStWtQPYM image https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVjStWtQPYM Starbucks Using Sodomites' Semen In Lattes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVjStWtQPYM View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVjStWtQPYM Preview by Yahoo *From:* TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Sunday, November 9, 2014 2:04 AM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Religion is just SO entertaining I mean, really. A guy dressed like this who claims to be affronted by homosexuals? Vatican Fashion Icon Facing Another Possible Demotion http://www.bilerico.com/2014/09/vatican_fashion_icon_facing_another_possible_demot.php image http://www.bilerico.com/2014/09/vatican_fashion_icon_facing_another_possible_demot.php Vatican Fashion Icon Facing Another Possible Demotion http://www.bilerico.com/2014/09/vatican_fashion_icon_facing_another_possible_demot.php Pope Francis may be preparing to once again demote American Cardinal Raymond Burke, a Vatican fashion icon and the divisive and virulently homophobic leader of... View on www.bilerico.com http://www.bilerico.com/2014/09/vatican_fashion_icon_facing_another_possible_demot.php Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls
Exactly, Feste. That's what originally set my teeth on edge during the few minutes I spent with Marci Shimoff. She was bragging about being a bestselling author and I asked what exactly she had *done* on the one book (at the time) she had written. Answer? She had made a few taped interviews and then edited some of the transcriptions that some flunky had made of them. I hadn't realized until this subject came up that she was also one of the driving personalities behind one of the biggest and most-psychologically-destructive scams ever, The Secret. I feel icky just writing about her, so I think I'll stop now. From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 5:32 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls I've always found it irritating when the people whose names appear on the covers of Chicken Soup books claim to be New York Times best-selling authors. These people do not even write the books. At best they are editors and compilers of collections of stories written by other people. I don't believe that Marci ever wrote a word of the Chicken Soup books that bear her name. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : OK, thanks for making your position clear. You trust these people, so you will continue to pass along something you now know to be untrue because of your positive impression. You ARE in on the deception with them. Thanks for clarifying. I think we're done here... From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 5:13 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls turq, it's simple: I know the 2 people personally and trust them. And in that moment, on that call, I felt no intention to deceive from either of them. That's why I didn't check what was said. And I stand by the positive impression that I had. From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 9:56 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls What's wrong with saying, I was WRONG? Marci Shimoff is NOT 'the bestselling female nonfiction author of all time,' even though (given your own story, Share) she clearly intentionally allowed her friend to give me and a group of people that impression. THAT, at least, would be honest of you. To continue evading any responsibility for repeating this fiction...uh...tends to convey the impression that you're in on the deception yourself. As for 'just repeating what you thought was true, several people have called you over the years here on FFL on your tendency to do that WITHOUT CHECKING TO SEE WHETHER WHAT YOU'RE REPEATING AS TRUTH REALLY WAS. You do this over and over and over and over, with everything from repeating scare stories about Ebola that aren't true to recommending health care people who are proven quacks. Do you really NOT feel that when you repeat something you are presenting as truth you owe the people you're talking to a little effort to *find out if it's true* first? I'm pointing this out because it's part of a PATTERN among these ex-TMers who went on to become New Age gurus . John Gray and Barbara De Angelis presented themselves as Ph.Ds to further their Woo Woo careers *after buying those degrees from a paper mill on the Internet*. Do you think that might be construed as a little...uh...dishonest? Marci Shimoff clearly believes it's OK to allow one of her co-presenters to LIE about the extent of her book sales during one of her classes. Do you think there might be a little something off ethically about *that*? And YOU, rather than just saying, OK, I was really stupid. I just repeated something that someone told me as truth without ever checking to see it was true, you're bobbing and weaving and trying not to take any responsibility for it. Your conscience is clear because you repeated some things that you thought were true without doing *anything* to determine whether they *were* true? What's up with that? Why should we assume that you're not exhibiting this same pattern of intentional deception that the other three people I mention are exhibiting? Seems to me that if it looks like a duck and waddles like a duck, chances are it's a duck. From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 4:32 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls turq, my conscience
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls
I just discovered I am not a best selling author. It was heartbreaking. I discovered I was not an author at all. Can you image that? Someone else must be the blame for this. According to my daily journal, I am never wrong about anything. I trusted those bastards. For those who do not like facts, here are some tips for those whose lying is buried under a ton of cognitive dissonance and are unaware of it. It is best to be conscious of lying rather than being a dupe of some idiotic belief system as this helps with 'your evolution': How to Lie, 14 tips to become a better liar. How to Lie http://www.wikihow.com/Lie http://www.wikihow.com/Lie How to Lie http://www.wikihow.com/Lie Lies may come in all shapes and sizes and sometimes have a plethora of reasons behind them, from avoiding personal harm, to bluffing in a card gam... View on www.wikihow.com http://www.wikihow.com/Lie Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : What's wrong with saying, I was WRONG? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : turq, it's simple: I know the 2 people personally and trust them. And in that moment, on that call, I felt no intention to deceive from either of them. That's why I didn't check what was said. And I stand by the positive impression that I had.
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls
turq, the only thing I'm passing along is that I I shared what I thought to be true. And that I felt no intention to deceive in the women I got the info from. From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 10:25 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls OK, thanks for making your position clear. You trust these people, so you will continue to pass along something you now know to be untrue because of your positive impression. You ARE in on the deception with them. Thanks for clarifying. I think we're done here... From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 5:13 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls turq, it's simple: I know the 2 people personally and trust them. And in that moment, on that call, I felt no intention to deceive from either of them. That's why I didn't check what was said. And I stand by the positive impression that I had. From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 9:56 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls What's wrong with saying, I was WRONG? Marci Shimoff is NOT 'the bestselling female nonfiction author of all time,' even though (given your own story, Share) she clearly intentionally allowed her friend to give me and a group of people that impression. THAT, at least, would be honest of you. To continue evading any responsibility for repeating this fiction...uh...tends to convey the impression that you're in on the deception yourself. As for 'just repeating what you thought was true, several people have called you over the years here on FFL on your tendency to do that WITHOUT CHECKING TO SEE WHETHER WHAT YOU'RE REPEATING AS TRUTH REALLY WAS. You do this over and over and over and over, with everything from repeating scare stories about Ebola that aren't true to recommending health care people who are proven quacks. Do you really NOT feel that when you repeat something you are presenting as truth you owe the people you're talking to a little effort to *find out if it's true* first? I'm pointing this out because it's part of a PATTERN among these ex-TMers who went on to become New Age gurus . John Gray and Barbara De Angelis presented themselves as Ph.Ds to further their Woo Woo careers *after buying those degrees from a paper mill on the Internet*. Do you think that might be construed as a little...uh...dishonest? Marci Shimoff clearly believes it's OK to allow one of her co-presenters to LIE about the extent of her book sales during one of her classes. Do you think there might be a little something off ethically about *that*? And YOU, rather than just saying, OK, I was really stupid. I just repeated something that someone told me as truth without ever checking to see it was true, you're bobbing and weaving and trying not to take any responsibility for it. Your conscience is clear because you repeated some things that you thought were true without doing *anything* to determine whether they *were* true? What's up with that? Why should we assume that you're not exhibiting this same pattern of intentional deception that the other three people I mention are exhibiting? Seems to me that if it looks like a duck and waddles like a duck, chances are it's a duck. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 4:32 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls turq, my conscience is clear: I repeated what I thought was true. I now assume the friend didn't have the exact details and was being enthusiastic. I now assume the author was being gracious about her friend's enthusiasm. I'm assuming the best. Why not? From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 7:19 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls So all *three* of you lied, or have no regard whatsoever for the truth. Good to know. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 2:09 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls I
[FairfieldLife] An Overview
On the subject of bestselling non fiction books I came across this list compiled by the New York Times. It includes non fiction by both female and male authors. What is interesting is it gives a glimpse into what the American reader and what the culture of the time period found interesting and engaging. New York Times Best Seller Number Ones Listing http://www.hawes.com/no1_nf_d.htm New York Times Best Seller Number Ones Listing http://www.hawes.com/no1_nf_d.htm You can contact us at any time. Copyright (c) Hawes Publications. All rights reserved. Site last updated View our privacy policy. View on www.hawes.com http://www.hawes.com/no1_nf_d.htm Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More American Stupidity
On 11/9/2014 7:38 AM, waybac...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I think we can spread the work around - lots of 1/2 time jobs rather than 40-50 hrs per week per person. SEems the only way to spread the money as well. But then we all have o be willing to reduce our standard of living. A big impediment to people's willingness to work less than fulltime has been lack of universal health care coverage and decent care for the elderly (ie no pension). And maybe we have too many people on the planet. All good concepts, but how to begin to make a shift? In the U.S. we just had the mid-term elections and obviously it was all about the economy. What voters want is to see some money coming in, otherwise, we will make the shift to new leaders - we are going to vote the bums out of office in the next presidential elections. That's the bottom line, money coming in, regardless of how many people are on the planet. ///It's the economy, Stupid./ - Bill Clinton
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls
OTOH, Marci also co-authored 2 other bestsellers: Happy For No Reason and Love For No Reason. From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 10:39 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls Exactly, Feste. That's what originally set my teeth on edge during the few minutes I spent with Marci Shimoff. She was bragging about being a bestselling author and I asked what exactly she had *done* on the one book (at the time) she had written. Answer? She had made a few taped interviews and then edited some of the transcriptions that some flunky had made of them. I hadn't realized until this subject came up that she was also one of the driving personalities behind one of the biggest and most-psychologically-destructive scams ever, The Secret. I feel icky just writing about her, so I think I'll stop now. From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 5:32 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls I've always found it irritating when the people whose names appear on the covers of Chicken Soup books claim to be New York Times best-selling authors. These people do not even write the books. At best they are editors and compilers of collections of stories written by other people. I don't believe that Marci ever wrote a word of the Chicken Soup books that bear her name. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : OK, thanks for making your position clear. You trust these people, so you will continue to pass along something you now know to be untrue because of your positive impression. You ARE in on the deception with them. Thanks for clarifying. I think we're done here... From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 5:13 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls turq, it's simple: I know the 2 people personally and trust them. And in that moment, on that call, I felt no intention to deceive from either of them. That's why I didn't check what was said. And I stand by the positive impression that I had. From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 9:56 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls What's wrong with saying, I was WRONG? Marci Shimoff is NOT 'the bestselling female nonfiction author of all time,' even though (given your own story, Share) she clearly intentionally allowed her friend to give me and a group of people that impression. THAT, at least, would be honest of you. To continue evading any responsibility for repeating this fiction...uh...tends to convey the impression that you're in on the deception yourself. As for 'just repeating what you thought was true, several people have called youover the years here on FFL on your tendency to do that WITHOUT CHECKING TO SEE WHETHER WHAT YOU'RE REPEATING AS TRUTH REALLY WAS. You do this over and over and over and over, with everything from repeating scare stories about Ebola that aren't true to recommending health care people who are proven quacks. Do you really NOT feel that when you repeatsomething youare presenting as truth you owe the people you're talking to a little effort to *find out if it's true* first? I'm pointing this out because it's part of a PATTERN among these ex-TMers who went on to become New Age gurus . John Gray and Barbara De Angelis presented themselves as Ph.Ds to further their Woo Woo careers *after buying those degrees from a paper mill onthe Internet*. Do you think that might be construed as a little...uh...dishonest? Marci Shimoff clearly believes it's OK to allow one of her co-presenters to LIE about the extent of her book sales during one of her classes. Do you think there might be a little something off ethically about *that*? And YOU, rather than just saying, OK, I was really stupid. I just repeated something that someone told me as truth without ever checking to see it was true, you're bobbing and weaving and trying not to take any responsibility for it. Your conscience is clear because you repeated some things that you thought were true without doing *anything* to determine whether they *were* true? What's up with that? Why should we assume that you're not exhibiting this same pattern of intentional deception that the other three people I mention are exhibiting? Seems to me that if it looks like a duck and waddles like a duck, chances are it's a duck. From: Share Long sharelong60@...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More American Stupidity
On 11/9/2014 6:23 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Bhairitu, thinking about my family some more: rich people want to be hyper rich and they think Republicans will help them achieve that. I think that's the big mistake they make. /In the U.S. most people voted for the party that favors business, so they can make a living and pay the bills. The people have spoken. The bottom line in the next U.S. presidential election will be the economy./ *From:* Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, November 8, 2014 9:21 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More American Stupidity The vote was reactionary. California had a very low turnout because people were so disillusioned. Those who voted Republican thinking they would fix things will learn differently over the next couple of years. On 11/08/2014 07:12 PM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com mailto:sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Right, but in terms of the number of votes that were needed to bring the Republicans back into power, we're talking about more than a handful of billionaires. It's all the millionaires down the street who voted the Republicans into power. *From:* Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net mailto:noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, November 8, 2014 8:50 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More American Stupidity I'm not talking small business rich. When we say rich these days we want to dispense with the clumsiness of saying super rich or uber rich etc. Intelligent people know what we mean when we say the rich and that we don't mean the millionaire down the street. On 11/08/2014 06:36 PM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com mailto:sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Bhairitu, my Dad and stepMom grew up in the Depression. My Dad started working for his Dad when he was 16, didn't even finish high school. When I was little, we were lucky if we got 5 cents for a popcicle. What I'm saying is that I think the extravagance came later and I think people who grew up in the Depression and then worked hard, feel like they deserve the good life now. Where I see people a little spoiled are my sister's kids. They're in their early forties and late thirties, grew up really comfortable, wearing expensive sneakers, driving expensive cars from age 16, etc. Heck, we wore Keds and I learned to drive in a VW. *From:* Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net mailto:noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, November 8, 2014 7:21 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More American Stupidity Capitalism is like candy and the rich like spoiled kids. They just want more and more candy. Hence they get fat and cranky and want their way all the time. What we need to do is take away their candy from them and let them dry out. Otherwise they become a complete drag on society. Free enterprise is not a bad idea about capitalism run amok is very dangerous. Sometimes you just have to shut things down and spank the miscreants. On 11/08/2014 04:46 PM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com mailto:sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Wayback, I've read Klein online and found her to be a compelling writer. But when I think about my Dad and stepMom, staunch Republicans, I bet they never even heard of Silent Spring or Rachel Carson. Even though my Dad's a nature lover. Mostly what they know is being small and successful business owners. They're gonna choose capitalism over climate every time. My guess is most Republicans will simply label Klein a liberal and not pay much attention to what she has to report. *From:* waybac...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] mailto:waybac...@yahoo.com[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, November 8, 2014 5:27 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: More American Stupidity An important new book just came out about capitalism and climate change: This Changes Everything: Capitalism vs. the Climate, by Naomi Klein. But the converted, anti SUV folks are probably the only ones who will read it. The review in today's NY Times called it the most important environmental book since Rachel Carson's Silent Spring. (I gave a book
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls
I know that Marc Victor Hansen who came up with the idea along with Jack Canfield is one of the worst scam artists and one of the most prideful too. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vj4Q80tNrrA Mark Victor Hansen - CNN - Self Help Scam Debate View on www.youtube.com Preview by Yahoo http://pioneerproductions.blogspot.com/2008/04/mark-victor-hansen-flim-flam-man.html Ennyman's Territory: Mark Victor Hansen: the Flim Fla... The following article first appeared in Duluth's Reader Weekly, November 7, 2002. It was my take on a motivational speaker who I would tar a scam artist. View on pioneerproductions.bl... Preview by Yahoo From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogr oups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 11:39 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls Exactly, Feste. That's what originally set my teeth on edge during the few minutes I spent with Marci Shimoff. She was bragging about being a bestselling author and I asked what exactly she had *done* on the one book (at the time) she had written. Answer? She had made a few taped interviews and then edited some of the transcriptions that some flunky had made of them. I hadn't realized until this subject came up that she was also one of the driving personalities behind one of the biggest and most-psychologically-destructive scams ever, The Secret. I feel icky just writing about her, so I think I'll stop now. From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 5:32 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls I've always found it irritating when the people whose names appear on the covers of Chicken Soup books claim to be New York Times best-selling authors. These people do not even write the books. At best they are editors and compilers of collections of stories written by other people. I don't believe that Marci ever wrote a word of the Chicken Soup books that bear her name. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : OK, thanks for making your position clear. You trust these people, so you will continue to pass along something you now know to be untrue because of your positive impression. You ARE in on the deception with them. Thanks for clarifying. I think we're done here... From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 5:13 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls turq, it's simple: I know the 2 people personally and trust them. And in that moment, on that call, I felt no intention to deceive from either of them. That's why I didn't check what was said. And I stand by the positive impression that I had. From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 9:56 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls What's wrong with saying, I was WRONG? Marci Shimoff is NOT 'the bestselling female nonfiction author of all time,' even though (given your own story, Share) she clearly intentionally allowed her friend to give me and a group of people that impression. THAT, at least, would be honest of you. To continue evading any responsibility for repeating this fiction...uh...tends to convey the impression that you're in on the deception yourself. As for 'just repeating what you thought was true, several people have called you over the years here on FFL on your tendency to do that WITHOUT CHECKING TO SEE WHETHER WHAT YOU'RE REPEATING AS TRUTH REALLY WAS. You do this over and over and over and over, with everything from repeating scare stories about Ebola that aren't true to recommending health care people who are proven quacks. Do you really NOT feel that when you repeat something you are presenting as truth you owe the people you're talking to a little effort to *find out if it's true* first? I'm pointing this out because it's part of a PATTERN among these ex-TMers who went on to become New Age gurus . John Gray and Barbara De Angelis presented themselves as Ph.Ds to further their Woo Woo careers *after buying those degrees from a paper mill on the Internet*. Do you think that might be construed as a little...uh...dishonest? Marci Shimoff clearly believes it's OK to allow one of her co-presenters to LIE about the extent of her book sales during one of her classes. Do you think there might be a little something off
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More American Stupidity
Capitalism promotes consumerism so capitalism is still the problem. People need to deprogram themselves of the propaganda they've been fed all their lives. There are lots of solutions to the problem and more to come. On 11/09/2014 04:52 AM, jason_gre...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Mike, the problem is not capitalism. It's crass consumerism or hyper-consumerism as some would call it. It leads to voracious unsustainable consumption of resources. In fact, this problem existed even in ancient times, a lot of ancient civilisations collapsed due to rampant tree cutting and ecological degradation. It soon became unsustainable. This is exactly the reason, the entire taxation methodology must be changed. Taxation should be based on consumption and not on income. For instance, if you earn 20,000 $ a month but spend only 2,000 $ out of that. You put the rest 18,000$ in bank. You should be taxed only for that 2,000 $ you spent. The interest rate in banks are artificially low. Some incentive should be given to people to save money in banks. --- mdixon.6569@... wrote : Capitalism is the best system for the disabled, sick and old age. Wealth is created abundantly by capitalism which can be taxed and provide a safety net. People can also provide for themselves better and the smart ones save for their future.. Most, if not all, union pension plans are heavily invested in capitalism which pays their member benefits. Ask the people of the former Soviet Union and China if they prefer capitalism or old Soviet central planning with Socialism. Governments don't generate wealth, they just take it away and redistribute it. Free enterprise generates wealth. Ask any rich person or person aspiring to be rich. With an abundance of wealth, good things can be done and planned for. The Soviet Union couldn't clean up they environmental messes they created. So we all end up like the Soviet Union and pre-capitalist China. Plenty of nothing to go around for everybody. Did you ever see or hear about the Soviet era enviornment? Plenty of mess to clean up but no money to do it. But then we will *make* them do it... for mother Russia! *From:* Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Capitalism is like candy and the rich like spoiled kids. They just want more and more candy. Hence they get fat and cranky and want their way all the time. What we need to do is take away their candy from them and let them dry out. Otherwise they become a complete drag on society. Free enterprise is not a bad idea about capitalism run amok is very dangerous. Sometimes you just have to shut things down and spank the miscreants.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Faces I Can Look Forward to Seeing Every Day
I grew up in a petless household because my family's experiment in dog ownership ended before my time when George Washington, a dachshund, grew ornery after my sister kept trying to ride him. My only experience with pet ownership was the 16 years that our household was dominated by cats, and that came to a tragic end, 13 months ago, when we had to put down our most beloved kitty. What's especially sad is that of our 16 years with her, what stands out the most in my memory of her is her final months of declining health. As cute and lovable as those dogs look, all I can think of is the unbelievable pain and heartbreak you will experience when they die. Honestly, I don't understand how people can put themselves through that, pet after pet after pet. This has been Depressing Thoughts, by Alex Stanley
Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good [2 Attachments]
Thanks, Dick, I never read the entire talk. It's beautiful and practical too. From: Dick Mays dickm...@lisco.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: Dick Mays dickm...@lisco.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 10:58 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good [2 Attachments] [Attachment(s) from Dick Mays included below] Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others Don't Speak Ill, Remain Pure, 1964 Everyone has to discharge one's duty towards himself and towards spreading of this meditation in whatever capacity one can. And never undermine any other's attempt or desires in whatever humble way it may be. One thing of very great importance: that now when you have been meditating for some time, purity has grown in life quite a lot. As the mind gains more and more of the Being, mind becomes more and more pure. But one thing which you have to be very cautious about is that you don't think evil of anyone, don't speak ill of anyone. Otherwise speaking ill and thinking ill of someone, dwelling on the weaknesses of someone, all their bad qualities come to your heart; [this way] you get your heart and mind spoiled. So when through meditation, purity is growing in life, we don't invite this mud from outside to make us impure anymore. We have to be cautious against our thoughts that we don't think ill of anyone, and we don't do ill to anyone naturally. Speaking ill of others is a very bad We say it makes the cloth dirty, makes the whole personality very dirty and impure. That we have to guard against in our dealings and feelings with people. Very important; very, very important. It is as important as daily practice of meditation. In the olden days in India, there was a practice that if some man did some great sin, then the way to repent it was that he would cover his body with a cloth like that and will go to any village. Standing out of the village, he would shout out: my name is such and such, and I come from that village, and I happened to be doing like that and like that and like that. He would just announce it and go ahead, and keep on announcing from village to village. And the effect was: all the people who heard him, if in their evening meetings with their fellow men, they talk about that, then the contention is that they partake of his sin and after some time he becomes pure. Just by talking about the sinner, the people who talk about him share his sin. This is very dangerous. Someone has done something wrong and if we dwell on that and talk it over with someone, we have been affected by that sin and we spread that sin; we partake of his sin and take it upon us. Anyone who has done any mistake there or there or there, we just don't speak of it. Otherwise we will only be shrouding ourselves with the sins of others. Very important, especially now when through this Transcendental Meditation we are making ourselves more and more full with Being, means more and more full with purity, then we have to guard against this thing which is very dangerous. No one thinks that if I am talking ill of someone, then no one thinks that I am taking over his sin. It is a common practice in the world to simply talk something wrong done by others. It is just very harmful for us. Question (inaudible, about newspaper writers?) They do a great service as far as amending of the wrong is concerned, but as far as partaking of his sin is concerned, they do partake. They help the sinner by spreading the news about him and everybody talks about him, and then all of them partake of the sins. As far as partaking of the sin is concerned, that is helpful for the sinner. In Bhagavad Gita, Lord Krishna said to Arjuna at one point [Gita 9:1, see below] that I am giving you this most secret wisdom because, one condition out of many that He said was, that you never speak ill of others (anasuya). That is you don't speak ill of others, for this quality in you I think you deserve this wisdom, so I give this wisdom to you. Just this quality of not speaking ill of others. Out of my own experience, I tell you, in the ashram of my Guru Dev, there were 100s of people, all good disciples. And everyone after all is a human being. No aspirant is ever perfect. They come to the feet of the master for that perfection. So everyone has his own failing there and there and there. I had my own failings, I never knew what were they, but must be because no human is ever perfect. One thing I was famous about is that I will not speak ill of anyone. I would always cherish a hope of his becoming better sooner or later. I would always cherish a hope. If someone says: that man has done like that and such a bad man. [I would say:] “Now that he is in the ashram he will improve.” Always I cherish a hope against all the wrongs done by all the people. And the effect that you
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Birth of the Hippies
If you were writing science fiction what would you be writing these days? On 11/08/2014 11:51 PM, salyavin808 wrote: Cheers, there's a lot of my faves there and a few new ones that I haven't tried. And a couple of those are now on the way to me! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Try this site: http://bestsciencefictionbooks.com/top-25-best-science-fiction-books.php
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Because some here seem to like him...
I don't think the JR wants to deal with yoga or eastern mysticism. I know that in the magician community there is still some wonder about some unexplained tricks of some Indian magicians. He may actually understand that some of these things are based on the manipulation of physics, the kind not yet understood. OTOH, JR does have a bit of a narcissistic personality. On 11/09/2014 12:24 AM, salyavin808 wrote: Thanks for that. I didn't know that JR offered his million dollar challenge to the fraudster selling magical explosive detectors to Iraq in the hope of exposing the rather obvious fraud. I remember hearing that the government had given an export license for these things and thought the world must, finally, have gone completely and hopelessly mad. I didn't know he actually invited people to try out for the chance to win the cash, he should challenge the TMO to prove that yagya's work so that people can stop wasting their money on them when the experiment draws a blank. Unless it doesn't! LOL. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : The Unbelievable Skepticism of the Amazing Randi http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/09/magazine/the-unbelievable-skepticism-of-the-amazing-randi.html image http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/09/magazine/the-unbelievable-skepticism-of-the-amazing-randi.html The Unbelievable Skepticism of the Amazing Randi http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/09/magazine/the-unbelievable-skepticism-of-the-amazing-randi.html image http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/09/magazine/the-unbelievable-skepticism-of-the-amazing-randi.html The Unbelievable Skepticism of the Amazing Randi http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/09/magazine/the-unbelievable-skepticism-of-the-amazing-randi.html An expert magician, avid debunker and scourge of spiritualists and con men prepares for the final curtain. View on www.nytimes.com http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/09/magazine/the-unbelievable-skepticism-of-the-amazing-randi.html Preview by Yahoo http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/09/magazine/the-unbelievable-skepticism-of-the-amazing-randi.html http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/09/magazine/the-unbelievable-skepticism-of-the-amazing-randi.html An expert magician, avid debunker and scourge of spiritualists and con men prepares for the final curtain. View on www.nytimes.com http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/09/magazine/the-unbelievable-skepticism-of-the-amazing-randi.html Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls
Correction: the authors who began the Chicken Soup series are Jack Canfield and
Mark Victor Hansen, not Rick Hanson. And I'm still sure that the series did NOT
begin in FF as turq stated!
From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 5:56 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls
Jeez, turq, now you're blaming the TMO for chicken soup?! FYI, Jack
Canfield and Rick Hanson never lived in FF, though Marci Shimoff did. Read it
and weep: Marci Shimoff is the best selling, non fiction, woman author of all
time. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
PS Making any progress on that thorn in your paw?
From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 3:47 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls
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Interesting article about a phenomenon that as I remember had its start in
Fairfield. Descriptions of this Literary Pinnacle Of Newage Crap in the article
like awful, mawkish, obvious, painful, unbearable, unenjoyable, and scarring
and a noxious sludge of sentimental woo-woo just don't do its
horriblenessitude justice.
Someone I had known back in the TM movement once tried set me up on a coffee
date with one of the Chicken Soup authors. It was horrific, almost the worst
date in my life (for the record, the worst was with Barbara De Angelis)...I
lasted less than five minutes before making some excuse and running away, and
had to wash my ears out in the coffeeshop restroom before I felt human again.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Faces I Can Look Forward to Seeing Every Day
Not so depressing from this reader's POV, Alex. More a reminder of reality. My dog Paris is gettin' a bit long in the tooth, too -- 15. I already had to say goodbye to his bro Pippin about a year and a half ago, and that was tough, but I've always been closer to Paris so letting him go will be even more of a bitch. Still, I consider it all more than worth it for being able to have spent so much quality time with him. To your point, I don't think I'll have another pet after Paris goes. The family I'm part of will, but I won't be primary parent. From: j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 6:07 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Faces I Can Look Forward to Seeing Every Day I grew up in a petless household because my family's experiment in dog ownership ended before my time when George Washington, a dachshund, grew ornery after my sister kept trying to ride him. My only experience with pet ownership was the 16 years that our household was dominated by cats, and that came to a tragic end, 13 months ago, when we had to put down our most beloved kitty. What's especially sad is that of our 16 years with her, what stands out the most in my memory of her is her final months of declining health. As cute and lovable as those dogs look, all I can think of is the unbelievable pain and heartbreak you will experience when they die. Honestly, I don't understand how people can put themselves through that, pet after pet after pet. This has been Depressing Thoughts, by Alex Stanley
Re: [FairfieldLife] World without love!
thanks, hepa, I learned something new today, never before knew that oxytocin
can also have negative effects.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Birth of the Hippies
Having finished one big project recently and looking for another, I am toying with taking advantage of where I live and writing a scifi story set in a Blade Runner-ish future...but in Amsterdam. We got to see what L.A. had evolved (or devolved) into in Blade Runner. But if you know Amsterdam at all, can you imagine what *it* will be like in the future? I can. :-) From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 6:09 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Birth of the Hippies If you were writing science fiction what would you be writing these days? On 11/08/2014 11:51 PM, salyavin808 wrote: Cheers, there's a lot of my faves there and a few new ones that I haven't tried. And a couple of those are now on the way to me! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Try this site: http://bestsciencefictionbooks.com/top-25-best-science-fiction-books.php
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More American Stupidity
Splitting jobs up would be a management nightmare. You have Jill 2 days a week then Jack 2 days. How are you going to resolve their two styles? In our continuing age of automation and which much of it justified to get rid of jobs NO human should be doing. So the need for laborers will reduce and we'll get back to a more natural state of life. Our standard of living is phony. It was based on credit or money we didn't have. It was a trap to control the masses by putting them into debt. It's interesting that the millennials don't want to be in debt. Wise choice. But many of them got suckered into college debt and are having to deal with that. Health care problems can be resolved with more emphasis on prevention and alternatives to the drug driven big pharma solution. The scamsters targeted health care as their next golden goose years ago and we are experiencing the result. Why does the AMA limit the number of medical students (I know they'll claim they don't but that's BS)? Let's have people practicing medicine who are interested in it rather than just the wealthy lifestyle. We can solve the one child per family problem but it requires new thinking and dynamic to civilization. Again the establishment (i.e. the capitalists) don't want those changes or they will lose control. Who made them God anyway? On 11/09/2014 05:38 AM, waybac...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I think we can spread the work around - lots of 1/2 time jobs rather than 40-50 hrs per week per person. SEems the only way to spread the money as well. But then we all have o be willing to reduce our standard of living. A big impediment to people's willingness to work less than fulltime has been lack of universal health care coverage and decent care for the elderly (ie no pension). And maybe we have too many people on the planet. All good concepts, but how to begin to make a shift?
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls
Thanks, Steve, I hadn't seen this til you posted thanks for supportive post.
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Easy to make that mistake when one of the first links that comes up, states:
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Not exactly in the category of a lie, I'd say.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More American Stupidity
Work is not the purpose of life. It's real purpose is to keep you distracted so you don't overthrow the king. Who elected him boss anyway? At best there is probably only a couple hours a day of work that needs to be done. Some of the more tedious and subhuman jobs can be automated anyway. When I was in India, businessmen were complaining workers would only work two hours a day. That's all they needed to survive. Locally an Indian engineer and I discussed the problem. He thought it was also due to the fact that they couldn't take more than a couple hours of the heat in the work places. Parcheesi anyone? On 11/08/2014 08:04 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: There's always more work to be done! People may need to develope new or different skills. Craftsmen that build or repair buggies aren't in big demand these day, but people that can make or repair cars are. And people may need to compete for the best jobs. I'll agree, education doesn't guarantee a damned thing, but I can almost guarantee that a lack of education can almost guarantee poverty. Higher education doesn't have to be a four year college/university and advanced degrees. It can simply be a good trade school and learning a valued skill. Hell, having a good attitude and work ethic can take some people pretty far! *From:* Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, November 8, 2014 7:29 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More American Stupidity Thing is that many people who dropped out of high school may turn out to be very aggressive and fortuitous. Education does not really guarantee an income. I went to college to learn things not to get a piece of paper that would guarantee me an income. Being a professional musician was a tough road to hoe and a very political one at that. It's not so much what you know but who you know. So answer me this: if we have all the workers we need and there is no other work to be done what happens to the rest of the populace? Are they expected to starve? Another thing: many of the people out of work aren't high school dropouts, they aren't even college dropouts, they aren't even inexperienced. In fact many have a lot of senior experience. They are just shut out of the market because they aren't cheap enough or too old. Many of these people are brighter than the richest of the rich and so at some point they may make sure there is hell to pay. And they can do it. On 11/08/2014 07:03 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com mailto:mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Yeah, there's plenty of money hoarders plus plenty to go around ... for those that want to work for it. Problem is, people that never finished high school think they deserve a house in the burbs, two cars,a television set in every room, an Obama phone and make at least 15 dollars an hour flipping burgers because that's all they're quailified to do.Soviet citizens had plenty of money that they hoarded but they didn't have anything to buy with it. No capitalism , no goodies to buy. *From:* Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net mailto:noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, November 8, 2014 6:47 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More American Stupidity And with the money hoarders you get plenty of nothing to go around except the for the money hoarders. They wind up with the whole pie. Is that right? There is a middle ground but to get there the rich will have to relinquish their control and much of their wealth. Will they do it or remain the most selfish people in the history of the world? On 11/08/2014 06:02 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com mailto:mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: So we all end up like the Soviet Union and pre-capitalist China. Plenty of nothing to go around for everybody. Did you ever see or hear about the Soviet era enviornment? Plenty of mess to clean up but no money to do it. But then we will *make* them do it... for mother Russia! *From:* Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net mailto:noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, November 8, 2014 5:21 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More American Stupidity Capitalism is like candy and the rich like spoiled kids. They just want more and more candy. Hence they get fat and cranky and want their way all the time. What we need to do is take
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Birth of the Hippies
On 11/9/2014 11:20 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Having finished one big project recently and looking for another, I am toying with taking advantage of where I live and writing a scifi story set in a Blade Runner-ish future...but in Amsterdam. /It's not like Amsterdam is the center of the universe, Barry. Not for nothing do they call it the Netherlands. / We got to see what L.A. had evolved (or devolved) into in Blade Runner. But if you know Amsterdam at all, can you imagine what *it* will be like in the future? I can. :-) /For one thing, Amsterdam will probably be underwater in the future, if current predictions are accurate. Good luck on your project. / *From:* Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Sunday, November 9, 2014 6:09 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Birth of the Hippies If you were writing science fiction what would you be writing these days? On 11/08/2014 11:51 PM, salyavin808 wrote: Cheers, there's a lot of my faves there and a few new ones that I haven't tried. And a couple of those are now on the way to me! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... wrote : Try this site: http://bestsciencefictionbooks.com/top-25-best-science-fiction-books.php
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More American Stupidity
In the software field you give a programmer a task to do. Some may spend an 80 week working on it and another may solve it in 2 days. Often the one who did it in two days has the better solution. The motto became work smart, not hard. One former Microsoft employee told me when he finished the task in a couple of days they let him go home for the rest of the week as long as he was on call if any problems came up. No use having your employees sitting around twiddling their thumbs. On 11/09/2014 06:31 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I'm all for letting your own ambition drive you. I don't care if somebody wants to work 50 to 60 hours a week or wants to work just enough to get by. Follow your dreams! My personal attitude about life is that nobody owes me anything. If I want something, it's up to me to get it. I don't expect anybody to take up the slack for what I want and what I can afford. Ambition has it's merits ... and demerits. *From:* waybac...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Sunday, November 9, 2014 5:38 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More American Stupidity I think we can spread the work around - lots of 1/2 time jobs rather than 40-50 hrs per week per person. SEems the only way to spread the money as well. But then we all have o be willing to reduce our standard of living. A big impediment to people's willingness to work less than fulltime has been lack of universal health care coverage and decent care for the elderly (ie no pension). And maybe we have too many people on the planet. All good concepts, but how to begin to make a shift?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More American Stupidity
There is a problem between the lowest paid and the highest paid gap that society is beginning to realize. People who only 10 years ago could enjoy some simple creature comforts find they can no longer afford them. They find themselves being resentful towards people who still can. If this continues to build up then we will indeed have a problem. History shows you curb the rich by taxing their earnings so they stop trying to accumulate so wealth and hence influence. For everyone multi-million dollar a year CEO there are a 1000 people or more who could easily replace him or her. No need to pay anyone that much. As Andy Kaufman mind have said about these days, you've been had! On 11/09/2014 04:23 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Bhairitu, thinking about my family some more: rich people want to be hyper rich and they think Republicans will help them achieve that. I think that's the big mistake they make. *From:* Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, November 8, 2014 9:21 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More American Stupidity The vote was reactionary. California had a very low turnout because people were so disillusioned. Those who voted Republican thinking they would fix things will learn differently over the next couple of years. On 11/08/2014 07:12 PM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com mailto:sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Right, but in terms of the number of votes that were needed to bring the Republicans back into power, we're talking about more than a handful of billionaires. It's all the millionaires down the street who voted the Republicans into power. *From:* Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net mailto:noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, November 8, 2014 8:50 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More American Stupidity I'm not talking small business rich. When we say rich these days we want to dispense with the clumsiness of saying super rich or uber rich etc. Intelligent people know what we mean when we say the rich and that we don't mean the millionaire down the street. On 11/08/2014 06:36 PM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com mailto:sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Bhairitu, my Dad and stepMom grew up in the Depression. My Dad started working for his Dad when he was 16, didn't even finish high school. When I was little, we were lucky if we got 5 cents for a popcicle. What I'm saying is that I think the extravagance came later and I think people who grew up in the Depression and then worked hard, feel like they deserve the good life now. Where I see people a little spoiled are my sister's kids. They're in their early forties and late thirties, grew up really comfortable, wearing expensive sneakers, driving expensive cars from age 16, etc. Heck, we wore Keds and I learned to drive in a VW. *From:* Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net mailto:noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, November 8, 2014 7:21 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More American Stupidity Capitalism is like candy and the rich like spoiled kids. They just want more and more candy. Hence they get fat and cranky and want their way all the time. What we need to do is take away their candy from them and let them dry out. Otherwise they become a complete drag on society. Free enterprise is not a bad idea about capitalism run amok is very dangerous. Sometimes you just have to shut things down and spank the miscreants. On 11/08/2014 04:46 PM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com mailto:sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Wayback, I've read Klein online and found her to be a compelling writer. But when I think about my Dad and stepMom, staunch Republicans, I bet they never even heard of Silent Spring or Rachel Carson. Even though my Dad's a nature lover. Mostly what they know is being small and successful business owners. They're gonna choose capitalism over climate every time. My guess is most Republicans will simply label Klein a liberal and not pay much attention to what she has to report. *From:* waybac...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] mailto:waybac...@yahoo.com[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls
I'm pretty sure that Marci didn't really write Happy for No Reason. The book cover reads Marci Shimoff, with Carol Kline, which is kind of publisher's code for saying that Carol actually wrote the book. But for marketing purposes, Marci is considered the name, so she gets the main credit. I have no doubt that Marci had a lot of input regarding what she wanted to say, and in that sense the book is a collaboration, but the hard work of actually writing it was done by Kline. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : OTOH, Marci also co-authored 2 other bestsellers: Happy For No Reason and Love For No Reason. From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 10:39 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls Exactly, Feste. That's what originally set my teeth on edge during the few minutes I spent with Marci Shimoff. She was bragging about being a bestselling author and I asked what exactly she had *done* on the one book (at the time) she had written. Answer? She had made a few taped interviews and then edited some of the transcriptions that some flunky had made of them. I hadn't realized until this subject came up that she was also one of the driving personalities behind one of the biggest and most-psychologically-destructive scams ever, The Secret. I feel icky just writing about her, so I think I'll stop now. From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 5:32 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls I've always found it irritating when the people whose names appear on the covers of Chicken Soup books claim to be New York Times best-selling authors. These people do not even write the books. At best they are editors and compilers of collections of stories written by other people. I don't believe that Marci ever wrote a word of the Chicken Soup books that bear her name. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : OK, thanks for making your position clear. You trust these people, so you will continue to pass along something you now know to be untrue because of your positive impression. You ARE in on the deception with them. Thanks for clarifying. I think we're done here... From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 5:13 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls turq, it's simple: I know the 2 people personally and trust them. And in that moment, on that call, I felt no intention to deceive from either of them. That's why I didn't check what was said. And I stand by the positive impression that I had. From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 9:56 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls What's wrong with saying, I was WRONG? Marci Shimoff is NOT 'the bestselling female nonfiction author of all time,' even though (given your own story, Share) she clearly intentionally allowed her friend to give me and a group of people that impression. THAT, at least, would be honest of you. To continue evading any responsibility for repeating this fiction...uh...tends to convey the impression that you're in on the deception yourself. As for 'just repeating what you thought was true, several people have called you over the years here on FFL on your tendency to do that WITHOUT CHECKING TO SEE WHETHER WHAT YOU'RE REPEATING AS TRUTH REALLY WAS. You do this over and over and over and over, with everything from repeating scare stories about Ebola that aren't true to recommending health care people who are proven quacks. Do you really NOT feel that when you repeat something you are presenting as truth you owe the people you're talking to a little effort to *find out if it's true* first? I'm pointing this out because it's part of a PATTERN among these ex-TMers who went on to become New Age gurus . John Gray and Barbara De Angelis presented themselves as Ph.Ds to further their Woo Woo careers *after buying those degrees from a paper mill on the Internet*. Do you think that might be construed as a little...uh...dishonest? Marci Shimoff clearly believes it's OK to allow one of her co-presenters to LIE about the extent of her book sales during one of her classes. Do you think there might be a little something off ethically about *that*? And YOU, rather than just saying, OK, I was really stupid. I just repeated something that someone told
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More American Stupidity
So your favorite economists are Limbaugh and Hannity? On 11/08/2014 07:36 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Capitalism is the best system for the disabled, sick and old age. Wealth is created abundantly by capitalism which can be taxed and provide a safety net. People can also provide for themselves better and the smart ones save for their future.. Most, if not all, union pension plans are heavily invested in capitalism which pays their member benefits. Ask the people of the former Soviet Union and China if they prefer capitalism or old Soviet central planning with Socialism. Governments don't generate wealth, they just take it away and redistribute it. Free enterprise generates wealth. Ask any rich person or person aspiring to be rich. With an abundance of wealth, good things can be done and planned for. The Soviet Union couldn't clean up they environmental messes they created. *From:* waybac...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, November 8, 2014 7:05 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More American Stupidity I think capitalism is often a good thing, but the problem is that it gets applied to every area - and some things don't flourish under capitalism. some things just don't work well with that approach - like taking care of the disabled, or people getting sick, or old age. People need help from time to time, and the unlucky ones need more help than average. But beyond that, it is going to be a terrible problem to change our approach to the economy, and to begin to somehow not think of success as perpetual growth growing and getting bigger and more profitable. I just cannot imagine how this is going to play out once climate change becomes a scary and very real emergency for us all.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Birth of the Hippies
Re But if you know Amsterdam at all, can you imagine what *it* will be like in the future? I can. : As Theo van Gogh and Pim Fortuyn were both murdered for expressing robust views about Islam will your projected novel feature a race war? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Having finished one big project recently and looking for another, I am toying with taking advantage of where I live and writing a scifi story set in a Blade Runner-ish future...but in Amsterdam. We got to see what L.A. had evolved (or devolved) into in Blade Runner. But if you know Amsterdam at all, can you imagine what *it* will be like in the future? I can. :-) From: Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 6:09 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Birth of the Hippies If you were writing science fiction what would you be writing these days? On 11/08/2014 11:51 PM, salyavin808 wrote: Cheers, there's a lot of my faves there and a few new ones that I haven't tried. And a couple of those are now on the way to me! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... wrote : Try this site: http://bestsciencefictionbooks.com/top-25-best-science-fiction-books.php http://bestsciencefictionbooks.com/top-25-best-science-fiction-books.php
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls
Does that mean that Marci did the hard work for the various Chicken Soup books she co-authored? Because on most of them, she's listed last. My guess is Kline was happy with the arrangement as she later co authored Love For No Reason. Plus she wrote several Chicken Soup books herself, mostly about pets. From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 11:44 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls I'm pretty sure that Marci didn't really write Happy for No Reason. The book cover reads Marci Shimoff, with Carol Kline, which is kind of publisher's code for saying that Carol actually wrote the book. But for marketing purposes, Marci is considered the name, so she gets the main credit. I have no doubt that Marci had a lot of input regarding what she wanted to say, and in that sense the book is a collaboration, but the hard work of actually writing it was done by Kline. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : OTOH, Marci also co-authored 2 other bestsellers: Happy For No Reason and Love For No Reason. From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 10:39 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls Exactly, Feste. That's what originally set my teeth on edge during the few minutes I spent with Marci Shimoff. She was bragging about being a bestselling author and I asked what exactly she had *done* on the one book (at the time) she had written. Answer? She had made a few taped interviews and then edited some of the transcriptions that some flunky had made of them. I hadn't realized until this subject came up that she was also one of the driving personalities behind one of the biggest and most-psychologically-destructive scams ever, The Secret. I feel icky just writing about her, so I think I'll stop now. From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 5:32 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls I've always found it irritating when the people whose names appear on the covers of Chicken Soup books claim to be New York Times best-selling authors. These people do not even write the books. At best they are editors and compilers of collections of stories written by other people. I don't believe that Marci ever wrote a word of the Chicken Soup books that bear her name. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : OK, thanks for making your position clear. You trust these people, so you willcontinue to pass along something you now know to be untrue because of your positive impression. You ARE in on the deception with them. Thanks for clarifying. I think we're done here... From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 5:13 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls turq, it's simple: I know the 2 people personally and trust them. And in that moment, on that call, I felt no intention to deceive from either of them. That's why I didn't check what was said. And I stand by the positive impression that I had. From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 9:56 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls What's wrong with saying, Iwas WRONG? Marci Shimoff is NOT 'the bestselling female nonfiction author of all time,' even though (given your own story, Share) she clearly intentionally allowed her friend to give me and a group of people that impression. THAT, at least, would be honest of you. To continue evading any responsibility for repeating this fiction...uh...tends to convey the impression that you're in on the deception yourself. As for 'just repeating what you thought was true, several people have called youover the years here on FFL on your tendency to do that WITHOUT CHECKING TO SEE WHETHER WHAT YOU'RE REPEATING AS TRUTH REALLY WAS. You do this over and over and over and over, with everything from repeating scare stories about Ebola that aren't true to recommending health care people who are proven quacks. Do you really NOT feel that when you repeatsomething youare presenting as truth you owe the people you're talking to a little effort to *find out if it's true* first? I'm pointing this out because it's part of a PATTERN among these ex-TMers who went on to become New Age gurus . John Gray and Barbara De Angelis presented themselves as Ph.Ds to further their Woo Woo careers *after
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Because some here seem to like him...
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : I don't think the JR wants to deal with yoga or eastern mysticism. I know that in the magician community there is still some wonder about some unexplained tricks of some Indian magicians. He may actually understand that some of these things are based on the manipulation of physics, the kind not yet understood. I'd say I'll believe it when I see it but making sure I don't is what magic is all about. I don't believe there are unknown laws of physics that can be manipulated when the ones we do know about can't. But I'd really love to see a trick based on things that don't use any currently known physical laws, it would sure beat levitation or the Indian rope trick or sawing people in half. I know some guys who went to an Indian village and there was a magic fair and they reported amazing things - until some locals objected to westerners being present and chased them out of town. Was any of it beyond the ability of Randi or Derren Brown? I bet if even a few people thought it was they'd have incorporated it into their act already. Maybe they have, Derren is amazing. I saw Doug Henning make an elephant disappear. That was cool, he was sitting on it at the time. One swish of a rather large cloak later and he was on the stage on his own! I bet it wasn't up his sleeve... I saw Paul Daniels make a tiger appear inside an empty box on castors on a lighted stage, that wasn't up his sleeve either. Damn clever stuff but if someone is kidding you that what they do is beyond the laws of physics then that's probably part of the act. I've seen shows that give bits of it away, and the best way to explain magic is that people are being fooled into thinking that something really difficult is going on. That's the trick. The harder they think it is the easier it is to exploit that - apparently! Watching the pretty but apparently gormless assistant(s) is the best way of working out the rest of it, most of the time they do all the work. Misdirection and exploiting people's willingness to believe. We've all got that, I love a good magic show. But I've been looking an Youtube and wiki for anything that might be an example of Indian magic that is unexplainable but have drawn a blank. And if I can't see it, a seasoned pro like JR won't have any trouble. But we all convert for evidence. OTOH, JR does have a bit of a narcissistic personality. On 11/09/2014 12:24 AM, salyavin808 wrote: Thanks for that. I didn't know that JR offered his million dollar challenge to the fraudster selling magical explosive detectors to Iraq in the hope of exposing the rather obvious fraud. I remember hearing that the government had given an export license for these things and thought the world must, finally, have gone completely and hopelessly mad. I didn't know he actually invited people to try out for the chance to win the cash, he should challenge the TMO to prove that yagya's work so that people can stop wasting their money on them when the experiment draws a blank. Unless it doesn't! LOL. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... wrote : The Unbelievable Skepticism of the Amazing Randi The Unbelievable Skepticism of the Amazing Randi The Unbelievable Skepticism of the Amazing Randi An expert magician, avid debunker and scourge of spiritualists and con men prepares for the final curtain. View on www.nytimes.com Preview by Yahoo An expert magician, avid debunker and scourge of spiritualists and con men prepares for the final curtain. View on www.nytimes.com Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls
I'm sure Marci did a lot of hard work on all the Chicken Soup books that appear with her name on the cover, but actually writing the stories was not part of it. Marci is a go-getter, a businesswoman—and a good one at that—who knows how to market books and promote herself. Writing is not really her thing. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Does that mean that Marci did the hard work for the various Chicken Soup books she co-authored? Because on most of them, she's listed last. My guess is Kline was happy with the arrangement as she later co authored Love For No Reason. Plus she wrote several Chicken Soup books herself, mostly about pets. From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 11:44 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls I'm pretty sure that Marci didn't really write Happy for No Reason. The book cover reads Marci Shimoff, with Carol Kline, which is kind of publisher's code for saying that Carol actually wrote the book. But for marketing purposes, Marci is considered the name, so she gets the main credit. I have no doubt that Marci had a lot of input regarding what she wanted to say, and in that sense the book is a collaboration, but the hard work of actually writing it was done by Kline. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : OTOH, Marci also co-authored 2 other bestsellers: Happy For No Reason and Love For No Reason. From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 10:39 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls Exactly, Feste. That's what originally set my teeth on edge during the few minutes I spent with Marci Shimoff. She was bragging about being a bestselling author and I asked what exactly she had *done* on the one book (at the time) she had written. Answer? She had made a few taped interviews and then edited some of the transcriptions that some flunky had made of them. I hadn't realized until this subject came up that she was also one of the driving personalities behind one of the biggest and most-psychologically-destructive scams ever, The Secret. I feel icky just writing about her, so I think I'll stop now. From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 5:32 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls I've always found it irritating when the people whose names appear on the covers of Chicken Soup books claim to be New York Times best-selling authors. These people do not even write the books. At best they are editors and compilers of collections of stories written by other people. I don't believe that Marci ever wrote a word of the Chicken Soup books that bear her name. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : OK, thanks for making your position clear. You trust these people, so you will continue to pass along something you now know to be untrue because of your positive impression. You ARE in on the deception with them. Thanks for clarifying. I think we're done here... From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 5:13 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls turq, it's simple: I know the 2 people personally and trust them. And in that moment, on that call, I felt no intention to deceive from either of them. That's why I didn't check what was said. And I stand by the positive impression that I had. From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 9:56 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls What's wrong with saying, I was WRONG? Marci Shimoff is NOT 'the bestselling female nonfiction author of all time,' even though (given your own story, Share) she clearly intentionally allowed her friend to give me and a group of people that impression. THAT, at least, would be honest of you. To continue evading any responsibility for repeating this fiction...uh...tends to convey the impression that you're in on the deception yourself. As for 'just repeating what you thought was true, several people have called you over the years here on FFL on your tendency to do that WITHOUT CHECKING TO SEE WHETHER WHAT YOU'RE REPEATING AS TRUTH REALLY WAS. You do this over and over and over and over, with everything from repeating scare stories about Ebola that aren't true to recommending
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Birth of the Hippies
No, because I do not consider it at all likely that a race war will actually erupt here. I am very attuned to the immigration issue wherever it takes place in Europe, and my assessment is that the Netherlands does the best job of any country I've been in so far in terms of helping immigrants to fit in and, more important, *feel like* they're fitting in. I would imagine race wars to be more an issue all over the UK and in France rather than here. I remember being in Dublin with my brother and we went to see Alfonso Cuarón's Children Of Men in a theater there, and realizing about halfway through the movie (which is a dystopian view of immigrants being rounded up all over the UK and sent back where they came from) that we were sitting in an abnormally quiet theater. I looked around, and found that most of the people in the theater were immigrants. They were quiet because they realized that in Ireland they were possibly looking at their near future, not some faraway scifi future. I could be all wrong about this, of course. But I live and interact with immigrants every day. In my current Dutch class, I'm the only person from the US. The others are from all over the globe. Many are originally from Islamic countries. All feel Dutch. Go figure. From: s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 7:12 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Birth of the Hippies Re But if you know Amsterdam at all, can you imagine what *it* will be like in the future? I can. : As Theo van Gogh and Pim Fortuyn were both murdered for expressing robust views about Islam will your projected novel feature a race war? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Having finished one big project recently and looking for another, I am toying with taking advantage of where I live and writing a scifi story set in a Blade Runner-ish future...but in Amsterdam. We got to see what L.A. had evolved (or devolved) into in Blade Runner. But if you know Amsterdam at all, can you imagine what *it* will be like in the future? I can. :-) From: Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 6:09 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Birth of the Hippies If you were writing science fiction what would you be writing these days? On 11/08/2014 11:51 PM, salyavin808 wrote: Cheers, there's a lot of my faves there and a few new ones that I haven't tried. And a couple of those are now on the way to me! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Try this site: http://bestsciencefictionbooks.com/top-25-best-science-fiction-books.php
[FairfieldLife] A Wish Fulfilled
Guru Purnimah, Seelisberg 1982; those who wanted can speak the wishes on the mic. to Maharishi we had just written down and put in the wish-box for the coming years, a yearly tradition. One German stood up and said; I wish for a united Germany. Maharishi looked at him, nodded and said; Yes, it will come. 7 years later his wish was fulfilled, Maharishi had granted Europe a boon. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-29974950 http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-29974950
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My Face was, There may be a God after all... :-)
On 11/8/2014 5:12 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote: strange Ann, just strange behavior on his part. /Apparently Barry does not want to show his face around here and no wonder after the humiliation Judy gave him. You would have thought though that he would have changed when Judy stopped posting, but he seems to have got even more confused. It's a clear case of cognitive dissonance, Steve. Barry in fact stalked me over here from Google Groups - I am FFL post #724. Go figure./ Author: willytex Subject: A Total Knowledge Base Date: January 1, 2002 Group: Yahoo! FairfieldLife http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/724 On 11/7/2014 8:59 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: But it IS interesting to see how many people here are admitting that they're stalking me all over the Internet, looking for any morsel of information to obsess on, now that I don't read their posts or respond to their gotta get Barry posts. --In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : /Now this is really funny - /a guy puts his face on MyFace and then thinks viewers are stalking him by sending him a friend request. This has got to be one of the classic cases of cognitive dissonance ever submitted to FFL. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : What is even funnier is that fer damn sure bawee has looked up every one of us on Facebook. He even blocked me and accused me of stalking him because I made a comment on a post by Dr Pete that bawee had also commented on. Imagine! Someone having a mutual friend on FB and the actually commenting on a post by that mutual friend. Incorrigibly outrageous - so much so that bawee ran around saying I was stalking him and he ballistically blocked any chance of me ever accidentally encountering him on FB. Little did he know he was doing me a favor.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Birth of the Hippies
I only saw Amsterdam from the airport which is probably not much of it at all. I tend to have screenplays in my mind which actually might start out as more manageable short stories. One idea is stories set in the solution future I have where the economy has been brought into balance, the government is transcendental socialist which it's not in your face there to serve the people and there is free enterprise for the folks who want to run their own small business. It's a very clean and lean society with plenty of leisure time. The stories themselves might be more comedy of errors that just use that future as a setting. But it's a good way to demonstrate how cool that future could be rather than just talking in theory. To try out my new free Bluray player on a disc I watched Edge of Tomorrow which I enjoyed because of the humor in it. Features Tom Cruise and Emily Blunt. It also had a fairly plausible idea about where the aliens came from. On 11/09/2014 09:20 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Having finished one big project recently and looking for another, I am toying with taking advantage of where I live and writing a scifi story set in a Blade Runner-ish future...but in Amsterdam. We got to see what L.A. had evolved (or devolved) into in Blade Runner. But if you know Amsterdam at all, can you imagine what *it* will be like in the future? I can. :-) *From:* Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Sunday, November 9, 2014 6:09 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Birth of the Hippies If you were writing science fiction what would you be writing these days? On 11/08/2014 11:51 PM, salyavin808 wrote: Cheers, there's a lot of my faves there and a few new ones that I haven't tried. And a couple of those are now on the way to me! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... wrote : Try this site: http://bestsciencefictionbooks.com/top-25-best-science-fiction-books.php
Re: [FairfieldLife] Iron Sky -- sequel trailer -- a hoot
I saw the first Iron Sky. This looks like a pre-viz of what the next one is supposed to be. Desktop 3D animation software is that good nowadays (the actress may not be real at all). On 11/08/2014 08:04 PM, Duveyoung wrote: If you didn't see the first Iron Sky -- you've got a treat in store. Meanwhile, this trailer owns me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jLaf5qj8csamp;feature=youtu.be
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Scientist Reviews Three Types of Meditation
Only three ways, eh? Scientist? I have written at length about edifying ways to use the mind -- over a 100 times by my count -- each time a different technique. And I could do a thousand more. But, seeing as there's not a single person here that'd even test out my imaginings, hey, lucky me, cuz now I don't have to try to teach. I loves me some preachin', but teaching is a chore. No sense even handing out the text books in this class. The strange thing is that I like David's vibe. It's hard to grudge jab at him. I think he's a very successful true believer -- found a way to explain his lifestyle to himself, and not too bothered about how inept his explanation might be to FFLers.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Scientist Reviews Three Types of Meditation
This man is not a scientist - his hype is non-scientific. He is a shill for the TMO - that's it. From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 6:03 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Scientist Reviews Three Types of Meditation Only three ways, eh? Scientist? I have written at length about edifying ways to use the mind -- over a 100 times by my count -- each time a different technique. And I could do a thousand more. But, seeing as there's not a single person here that'd even test out my imaginings, hey, lucky me, cuz now I don't have to try to teach. I loves me some preachin', but teaching is a chore. No sense even handing out the text books in this class. The strange thing is that I like David's vibe. It's hard to grudge jab at him. I think he's a very successful true believer -- found a way to explain his lifestyle to himself, and not too bothered about how inept his explanation might be to FFLers.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Scientist Reviews Three Types of Meditation
Re There's not a single person here that'd even test out my imaginings: I'm game! A while back I posted details on FFL of a variant on TM that involved effortlessly allowing one's awareness to come back to a relaxed focus of attention (instead of to a mantra/syllable/thought) that I had tried and found effective - though not as effective as using a mantra. I got shouted down! Have you ever come across a meditation technique that is simultaneously as effective as TM and as easy? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Only three ways, eh? Scientist? I have written at length about edifying ways to use the mind -- over a 100 times by my count -- each time a different technique. And I could do a thousand more. But, seeing as there's not a single person here that'd even test out my imaginings, hey, lucky me, cuz now I don't have to try to teach. I loves me some preachin', but teaching is a chore. No sense even handing out the text books in this class. The strange thing is that I like David's vibe. It's hard to grudge jab at him. I think he's a very successful true believer -- found a way to explain his lifestyle to himself, and not too bothered about how inept his explanation might be to FFLers.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Scientist Reviews Three Types of Meditation
There's nothing new under the sun. The techniques for TM were borrowed from other paths and traditions. They are fairly well known in India. Here's a link to the meditation section in Swami Sivanandas Mind - It's Mysteries and Control first published in 1935. You'll see the process is mentioned as well as a number of variants. http://www.dlshq.org/download/mind.htm#_VPID_35 Stop thinking you got anything unique with TM. It was just fairly standard meditation lite for the masses and often given out freely by astrologers and ayurvedic practitioners. It was only new to westerners who had not ventured to India. On 11/09/2014 04:21 PM, s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Re There's not a single person here that'd even test out my imaginings: I'm game! A while back I posted details on FFL of a variant on TM that involved effortlessly allowing one's awareness to come back to a relaxed focus of attention (instead of to a mantra/syllable/thought) that I had tried and found effective - though not as effective as using a mantra. I got shouted down! Have you ever come across a meditation technique that is simultaneously as effective as TM and as easy? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Only three ways, eh? Scientist? I have written at length about edifying ways to use the mind -- over a 100 times by my count -- each time a different technique. And I could do a thousand more. But, seeing as there's not a single person here that'd even test out my imaginings, hey, lucky me, cuz now I don't have to try to teach. I loves me some preachin', but teaching is a chore. No sense even handing out the text books in this class. The strange thing is that I like David's vibe. It's hard to grudge jab at him. I think he's a very successful true believer -- found a way to explain his lifestyle to himself, and not too bothered about how inept his explanation might be to FFLers.
[FairfieldLife] Brian Cox: Space, Time Videotape
Although I'm not really a fan of Brian Cox, this BBC documentary (shown tonight, in which he's joined by actor Brian Blessed and scientist Alice Roberts) in which he plays clips of his TV idols from both science fiction and science fact (Bronowski/Feynman/Sagan/etc) is both charming and engaging. If the link I provide to the Beeb website doesn't work for US FFLifers I'm sure the episode will be posted on YouTube shortly - just be patient and search for Brian Cox: Space, Time Videotape . http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b04kzmmk/brian-cox-space-time-videotape http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b04kzmmk/brian-cox-space-time-videotape
[FairfieldLife] Re: Low Tide at Ocean Beach
Fleetwood, I'm not a surfer. So, what does feeding time mean? On windy days, at the same beach, you can see many surfers using wind kites to zip along the waves. Some of them literally fly off from the water and do somersaults. Their feats are incredible to behold. It's officially called kitesurfing. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitesurfing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitesurfing ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Nice description - That is a pretty rare thing, no wind at Ocean Beach - When I boogey boarded a lot, I'd always get out around 4 at the latest, as it is then feeding time. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : As I walked at the water's edge, it appeared that a few people ahead of me were walking on water. This was the lowest tide that I've ever seen at this beach. The water's edge was about 300 yards away from the paved pedestrian lane. I saw the sun set in the reddened western sky in the sign of Libra. The temperature was like summer with no wind. As I was shaking the sand off my feet near the parking lot, a black guy asked me if I saw his wife walk by. I said, No, I didn't see her. A surfer asked me to help him zip his wet suit from his back shoulder. Then, he stepped down the beach steps with his surfboard to ride the evening waves.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Birth of the Hippies
I forgot! Vlodrop, Holland, is the former residence of Maharishi and is a capital of the Global Country of World Peace. Of course, nothing but peace and love can emanate from the Netherlands . . . Please, please, please, drop in on Vlodrop and let the residents there know, in no uncertain terms, what you think of the current state of the TMO. Then report back to us on how the true believers received you. PS: Children of Men is a great movie. The two scenes where Clive Owen and co are in danger and try to escape by car are masterpieces of heart-thumping film. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : No, because I do not consider it at all likely that a race war will actually erupt here. I am very attuned to the immigration issue wherever it takes place in Europe, and my assessment is that the Netherlands does the best job of any country I've been in so far in terms of helping immigrants to fit in and, more important, *feel like* they're fitting in. I would imagine race wars to be more an issue all over the UK and in France rather than here. I remember being in Dublin with my brother and we went to see Alfonso Cuarón http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0190859/'s Children Of Men in a theater there, and realizing about halfway through the movie (which is a dystopian view of immigrants being rounded up all over the UK and sent back where they came from) that we were sitting in an abnormally quiet theater. I looked around, and found that most of the people in the theater were immigrants. They were quiet because they realized that in Ireland they were possibly looking at their near future, not some faraway scifi future. I could be all wrong about this, of course. But I live and interact with immigrants every day. In my current Dutch class, I'm the only person from the US. The others are from all over the globe. Many are originally from Islamic countries. All feel Dutch. Go figure. From: s3raphita@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 7:12 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Birth of the Hippies Re But if you know Amsterdam at all, can you imagine what *it* will be like in the future? I can. : As Theo van Gogh and Pim Fortuyn were both murdered for expressing robust views about Islam will your projected novel feature a race war? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Having finished one big project recently and looking for another, I am toying with taking advantage of where I live and writing a scifi story set in a Blade Runner-ish future...but in Amsterdam. We got to see what L.A. had evolved (or devolved) into in Blade Runner. But if you know Amsterdam at all, can you imagine what *it* will be like in the future? I can. :-) From: Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 6:09 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Birth of the Hippies If you were writing science fiction what would you be writing these days? On 11/08/2014 11:51 PM, salyavin808 wrote: Cheers, there's a lot of my faves there and a few new ones that I haven't tried. And a couple of those are now on the way to me! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... wrote : Try this site: http://bestsciencefictionbooks.com/top-25-best-science-fiction-books.php http://bestsciencefictionbooks.com/top-25-best-science-fiction-books.php
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls
Thanks for the review of these chicken soup people, Feste37 and Turqb. I had not paid much attention to them. There seems to be an ethical problem there. Did they learn that kind of way of doing business from somewhere or develop the approach themselves? What might it have been in their upbringings that lead them to do business this way as adults? It seems in these more transparent modern internet times that business ethics very often become leading economic indicators as to windows in to people and how their businesses fair. Sincerely, -Buck turquoiseb@... wrote : Exactly, Feste. That's what originally set my teeth on edge during the few minutes I spent with Marci Shimoff. She was bragging about being a bestselling author and I asked what exactly she had *done* on the one book (at the time) she had written. Answer? She had made a few taped interviews and then edited some of the transcriptions that some flunky had made of them. I hadn't realized until this subject came up that she was also one of the driving personalities behind one of the biggest and most-psychologically-destructive scams ever, The Secret. I feel icky just writing about her, so I think I'll stop now. From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 5:32 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls I've always found it irritating when the people whose names appear on the covers of Chicken Soup books claim to be New York Times best-selling authors. These people do not even write the books. At best they are editors and compilers of collections of stories written by other people. I don't believe that Marci ever wrote a word of the Chicken Soup books that bear her name. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : OK, thanks for making your position clear. You trust these people, so you will continue to pass along something you now know to be untrue because of your positive impression. You ARE in on the deception with them. Thanks for clarifying. I think we're done here... From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 5:13 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls turq, it's simple: I know the 2 people personally and trust them. And in that moment, on that call, I felt no intention to deceive from either of them. That's why I didn't check what was said. And I stand by the positive impression that I had. From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 9:56 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Ultimate Kool-Aid: Chicken Soup for Dumb Souls What's wrong with saying, I was WRONG? Marci Shimoff is NOT 'the bestselling female nonfiction author of all time,' even though (given your own story, Share) she clearly intentionally allowed her friend to give me and a group of people that impression. THAT, at least, would be honest of you. To continue evading any responsibility for repeating this fiction...uh...tends to convey the impression that you're in on the deception yourself. As for 'just repeating what you thought was true, several people have called you over the years here on FFL on your tendency to do that WITHOUT CHECKING TO SEE WHETHER WHAT YOU'RE REPEATING AS TRUTH REALLY WAS. You do this over and over and over and over, with everything from repeating scare stories about Ebola that aren't true to recommending health care people who are proven quacks. Do you really NOT feel that when you repeat something you are presenting as truth you owe the people you're talking to a little effort to *find out if it's true* first? I'm pointing this out because it's part of a PATTERN among these ex-TMers who went on to become New Age gurus . John Gray and Barbara De Angelis presented themselves as Ph.Ds to further their Woo Woo careers *after buying those degrees from a paper mill on the Internet*. Do you think that might be construed as a little...uh...dishonest? Marci Shimoff clearly believes it's OK to allow one of her co-presenters to LIE about the extent of her book sales during one of her classes. Do you think there might be a little something off ethically about *that*? And YOU, rather than just saying, OK, I was really stupid. I just repeated something that someone told me as truth without ever checking to see it was true, you're bobbing and weaving and trying not to take any responsibility for it. Your conscience is clear because you repeated some things that you thought were true without doing *anything* to determine whether they *were* true? What's up with that? Why should we assume that you're
[FairfieldLife] Re: Low Tide at Ocean Beach
That is when the sharks feed. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Fleetwood, I'm not a surfer. So, what does feeding time mean? On windy days, at the same beach, you can see many surfers using wind kites to zip along the waves. Some of them literally fly off from the water and do somersaults. Their feats are incredible to behold. It's officially called kitesurfing. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitesurfing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitesurfing ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Nice description - That is a pretty rare thing, no wind at Ocean Beach - When I boogey boarded a lot, I'd always get out around 4 at the latest, as it is then feeding time. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : As I walked at the water's edge, it appeared that a few people ahead of me were walking on water. This was the lowest tide that I've ever seen at this beach. The water's edge was about 300 yards away from the paved pedestrian lane. I saw the sun set in the reddened western sky in the sign of Libra. The temperature was like summer with no wind. As I was shaking the sand off my feet near the parking lot, a black guy asked me if I saw his wife walk by. I said, No, I didn't see her. A surfer asked me to help him zip his wet suit from his back shoulder. Then, he stepped down the beach steps with his surfboard to ride the evening waves.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Faces I Can Look Forward to Seeing Every Day
Maybe think about the life you are giving them as opposed to the life they might have if you don't give them a home. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : I grew up in a petless household because my family's experiment in dog ownership ended before my time when George Washington, a dachshund, grew ornery after my sister kept trying to ride him. My only experience with pet ownership was the 16 years that our household was dominated by cats, and that came to a tragic end, 13 months ago, when we had to put down our most beloved kitty. What's especially sad is that of our 16 years with her, what stands out the most in my memory of her is her final months of declining health. As cute and lovable as those dogs look, all I can think of is the unbelievable pain and heartbreak you will experience when they die. Honestly, I don't understand how people can put themselves through that, pet after pet after pet. This has been Depressing Thoughts, by Alex Stanley
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Faces I Can Look Forward to Seeing Every Day
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Maybe think about the life you are giving them as opposed to the life they might have if you don't give them a home. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : I grew up in a petless household because my family's experiment in dog ownership ended before my time when George Washington, a dachshund, grew ornery after my sister kept trying to ride him. My only experience with pet ownership was the 16 years that our household was dominated by cats, and that came to a tragic end, 13 months ago, when we had to put down our most beloved kitty. What's especially sad is that of our 16 years with her, what stands out the most in my memory of her is her final months of declining health. As cute and lovable as those dogs look, all I can think of is the unbelievable pain and heartbreak you will experience when they die. Honestly, I don't understand how people can put themselves through that, pet after pet after pet. This has been Depressing Thoughts, by Alex Stanley Ahh yes, the subject of pet ownership. All I can really say is that it is still worth the sadness at the end of things. Sometimes they die slowly and sometimes they die fast and too young But these little creatures fill one's life with big and small events every single day. Sometimes you find yourself dreading the end, whatever form that end might take, well before it ever happens and then you catch yourself and scold that part of you that isn't loving the present because one is already anticipating the future. I have a particular favorite in my pack of 4 dogs and she is already 12 and we have been through paralysis and back surgery with her ($13K worth of vet bills later) and she is my doting and giving companion who carries my gloves up from the arena after a ride and who takes my ball cap off my head to carry it into where it is hung and who comes to work with me every day to lie next to me for 8 uncomplaining hours and who climbs up onto the bed to lie at my feet all night and who I will, inevitably, have to watch die. It will rip the very heart out of where it beats in me and I will feel bereft and gutted. That is how it is. When you love as deeply as I do for my animals then you have to pay the price when they go. Every time they do they take a piece of me with them just as every time another one shows up in my life they bring a little piece back.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Faces I Can Look Forward to Seeing Every Day
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Maybe think about the life you are giving them as opposed to the life they might have if you don't give them a home. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : I grew up in a petless household because my family's experiment in dog ownership ended before my time when George Washington, a dachshund, grew ornery after my sister kept trying to ride him. My only experience with pet ownership was the 16 years that our household was dominated by cats, and that came to a tragic end, 13 months ago, when we had to put down our most beloved kitty. What's especially sad is that of our 16 years with her, what stands out the most in my memory of her is her final months of declining health. As cute and lovable as those dogs look, all I can think of is the unbelievable pain and heartbreak you will experience when they die. Honestly, I don't understand how people can put themselves through that, pet after pet after pet. This has been Depressing Thoughts, by Alex Stanley Ahh yes, the subject of pet ownership. All I can really say is that it is still worth the sadness at the end of things. Sometimes they die slowly and sometimes they die fast and too young But these little creatures fill one's life with big and small events every single day. Sometimes you find yourself dreading the end, whatever form that end might take, well before it ever happens and then you catch yourself and scold that part of you that isn't loving the present because one is already anticipating the future. I have a particular favorite in my pack of 4 dogs and she is already 12 and we have been through paralysis and back surgery with her ($13K worth of vet bills later) and she is my doting and giving companion who carries my gloves up from the arena after a ride and who takes my ball cap off my head to carry it into where it is hung and who comes to work with me every day to lie next to me for 8 uncomplaining hours and who climbs up onto the bed to lie at my feet all night and who I will, inevitably, have to watch die. It will rip the very heart out of where it beats in me and I will feel bereft and gutted. That is how it is. When you love as deeply as I do for my animals then you have to pay the price when they go. Every time they do they take a piece of me with them just as every time another one shows up in my life they bring a little piece back.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Faces I Can Look Forward to Seeing Every Day
My father was in the Foreign Office so my experience with pets was that we'd have a dog to play with for a couple of years and then when my dad was posted to a new country my last sight of my beloved hound would be its hurt, forlorn expression as it was driven off in the car of his new owners. Alas, Keo, loyal and faithful friend! It was not me who chose to abandon you! Not recommended, unless you want to induce life-long trauma into your children's psyches . . . ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Maybe think about the life you are giving them as opposed to the life they might have if you don't give them a home. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : I grew up in a petless household because my family's experiment in dog ownership ended before my time when George Washington, a dachshund, grew ornery after my sister kept trying to ride him. My only experience with pet ownership was the 16 years that our household was dominated by cats, and that came to a tragic end, 13 months ago, when we had to put down our most beloved kitty. What's especially sad is that of our 16 years with her, what stands out the most in my memory of her is her final months of declining health. As cute and lovable as those dogs look, all I can think of is the unbelievable pain and heartbreak you will experience when they die. Honestly, I don't understand how people can put themselves through that, pet after pet after pet. This has been Depressing Thoughts, by Alex Stanley Ahh yes, the subject of pet ownership. All I can really say is that it is still worth the sadness at the end of things. Sometimes they die slowly and sometimes they die fast and too young But these little creatures fill one's life with big and small events every single day. Sometimes you find yourself dreading the end, whatever form that end might take, well before it ever happens and then you catch yourself and scold that part of you that isn't loving the present because one is already anticipating the future. I have a particular favorite in my pack of 4 dogs and she is already 12 and we have been through paralysis and back surgery with her ($13K worth of vet bills later) and she is my doting and giving companion who carries my gloves up from the arena after a ride and who takes my ball cap off my head to carry it into where it is hung and who comes to work with me every day to lie next to me for 8 uncomplaining hours and who climbs up onto the bed to lie at my feet all night and who I will, inevitably, have to watch die. It will rip the very heart out of where it beats in me and I will feel bereft and gutted. That is how it is. When you love as deeply as I do for my animals then you have to pay the price when they go. Every time they do they take a piece of me with them just as every time another one shows up in my life they bring a little piece back.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Faces I Can Look Forward to Seeing Every Day
What is funny Ann, is that this dog, looks just like my neighbor's dog who is my favorite, and the most special of their three dogs. She was rescued from a crack house by their son, who is a police officer. They named her Mary Jane, and she has herding instincts. Before that was Dutchess, the husky mix who died, and before that was Heidi. The problem is that they keep the dogs outside, all the time, except when it is bitterly cold, so they only seem to live six years, or so. It is not for me to interfere. I am the treat neighbor who gives them fresh roasted (non spiced) chicken treats at least once a day, and prolonged petting. Sometimes even take them for walks. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Maybe think about the life you are giving them as opposed to the life they might have if you don't give them a home. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : I grew up in a petless household because my family's experiment in dog ownership ended before my time when George Washington, a dachshund, grew ornery after my sister kept trying to ride him. My only experience with pet ownership was the 16 years that our household was dominated by cats, and that came to a tragic end, 13 months ago, when we had to put down our most beloved kitty. What's especially sad is that of our 16 years with her, what stands out the most in my memory of her is her final months of declining health. As cute and lovable as those dogs look, all I can think of is the unbelievable pain and heartbreak you will experience when they die. Honestly, I don't understand how people can put themselves through that, pet after pet after pet. This has been Depressing Thoughts, by Alex Stanley Ahh yes, the subject of pet ownership. All I can really say is that it is still worth the sadness at the end of things. Sometimes they die slowly and sometimes they die fast and too young But these little creatures fill one's life with big and small events every single day. Sometimes you find yourself dreading the end, whatever form that end might take, well before it ever happens and then you catch yourself and scold that part of you that isn't loving the present because one is already anticipating the future. I have a particular favorite in my pack of 4 dogs and she is already 12 and we have been through paralysis and back surgery with her ($13K worth of vet bills later) and she is my doting and giving companion who carries my gloves up from the arena after a ride and who takes my ball cap off my head to carry it into where it is hung and who comes to work with me every day to lie next to me for 8 uncomplaining hours and who climbs up onto the bed to lie at my feet all night and who I will, inevitably, have to watch die. It will rip the very heart out of where it beats in me and I will feel bereft and gutted. That is how it is. When you love as deeply as I do for my animals then you have to pay the price when they go. Every time they do they take a piece of me with them just as every time another one shows up in my life they bring a little piece back.
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : What is funny Ann, is that this dog, looks just like my neighbor's dog who is my favorite, and the most special of their three dogs. She was rescued from a crack house by their son, who is a police officer. They named her Mary Jane, and she has herding instincts. Before that was Dutchess, the husky mix who died, and before that was Heidi. The problem is that they keep the dogs outside, all the time, except when it is bitterly cold, so they only seem to live six years, or so. It is not for me to interfere. I am the treat neighbor who gives them fresh roasted (non spiced) chicken treats at least once a day, and prolonged petting. Sometimes even take them for walks. You're a good man Steve. Do what you can. The fact that you care is not a wasted thing. Even five minutes of loving can make an hour of no love disappear into the present of the loving. No small act of kindness is ever wasted. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Maybe think about the life you are giving them as opposed to the life they might have if you don't give them a home. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : I grew up in a petless household because my family's experiment in dog ownership ended before my time when George Washington, a dachshund, grew ornery after my sister kept trying to ride him. My only experience with pet ownership was the 16 years that our household was dominated by cats, and that came to a tragic end, 13 months ago, when we had to put down our most beloved kitty. What's especially sad is that of our 16 years with her, what stands out the most in my memory of her is her final months of declining health. As cute and lovable as those dogs look, all I can think of is the unbelievable pain and heartbreak you will experience when they die. Honestly, I don't understand how people can put themselves through that, pet after pet after pet. This has been Depressing Thoughts, by Alex Stanley Ahh yes, the subject of pet ownership. All I can really say is that it is still worth the sadness at the end of things. Sometimes they die slowly and sometimes they die fast and too young But these little creatures fill one's life with big and small events every single day. Sometimes you find yourself dreading the end, whatever form that end might take, well before it ever happens and then you catch yourself and scold that part of you that isn't loving the present because one is already anticipating the future. I have a particular favorite in my pack of 4 dogs and she is already 12 and we have been through paralysis and back surgery with her ($13K worth of vet bills later) and she is my doting and giving companion who carries my gloves up from the arena after a ride and who takes my ball cap off my head to carry it into where it is hung and who comes to work with me every day to lie next to me for 8 uncomplaining hours and who climbs up onto the bed to lie at my feet all night and who I will, inevitably, have to watch die. It will rip the very heart out of where it beats in me and I will feel bereft and gutted. That is how it is. When you love as deeply as I do for my animals then you have to pay the price when they go. Every time they do they take a piece of me with them just as every time another one shows up in my life they bring a little piece back.
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : My father was in the Foreign Office so my experience with pets was that we'd have a dog to play with for a couple of years and then when my dad was posted to a new country my last sight of my beloved hound would be its hurt, forlorn expression as it was driven off in the car of his new owners. Alas, Keo, loyal and faithful friend! It was not me who chose to abandon you! Not recommended, unless you want to induce life-long trauma into your children's psyches . . . Terrible for you. Terrible for them. A small death every time. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Maybe think about the life you are giving them as opposed to the life they might have if you don't give them a home. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : I grew up in a petless household because my family's experiment in dog ownership ended before my time when George Washington, a dachshund, grew ornery after my sister kept trying to ride him. My only experience with pet ownership was the 16 years that our household was dominated by cats, and that came to a tragic end, 13 months ago, when we had to put down our most beloved kitty. What's especially sad is that of our 16 years with her, what stands out the most in my memory of her is her final months of declining health. As cute and lovable as those dogs look, all I can think of is the unbelievable pain and heartbreak you will experience when they die. Honestly, I don't understand how people can put themselves through that, pet after pet after pet. This has been Depressing Thoughts, by Alex Stanley Ahh yes, the subject of pet ownership. All I can really say is that it is still worth the sadness at the end of things. Sometimes they die slowly and sometimes they die fast and too young But these little creatures fill one's life with big and small events every single day. Sometimes you find yourself dreading the end, whatever form that end might take, well before it ever happens and then you catch yourself and scold that part of you that isn't loving the present because one is already anticipating the future. I have a particular favorite in my pack of 4 dogs and she is already 12 and we have been through paralysis and back surgery with her ($13K worth of vet bills later) and she is my doting and giving companion who carries my gloves up from the arena after a ride and who takes my ball cap off my head to carry it into where it is hung and who comes to work with me every day to lie next to me for 8 uncomplaining hours and who climbs up onto the bed to lie at my feet all night and who I will, inevitably, have to watch die. It will rip the very heart out of where it beats in me and I will feel bereft and gutted. That is how it is. When you love as deeply as I do for my animals then you have to pay the price when they go. Every time they do they take a piece of me with them just as every time another one shows up in my life they bring a little piece back.
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Re A small death every time.: Yes, but also your first inkling of what love can be. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : My father was in the Foreign Office so my experience with pets was that we'd have a dog to play with for a couple of years and then when my dad was posted to a new country my last sight of my beloved hound would be its hurt, forlorn expression as it was driven off in the car of his new owners. Alas, Keo, loyal and faithful friend! It was not me who chose to abandon you! Not recommended, unless you want to induce life-long trauma into your children's psyches . . . Terrible for you. Terrible for them. A small death every time. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Maybe think about the life you are giving them as opposed to the life they might have if you don't give them a home. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : I grew up in a petless household because my family's experiment in dog ownership ended before my time when George Washington, a dachshund, grew ornery after my sister kept trying to ride him. My only experience with pet ownership was the 16 years that our household was dominated by cats, and that came to a tragic end, 13 months ago, when we had to put down our most beloved kitty. What's especially sad is that of our 16 years with her, what stands out the most in my memory of her is her final months of declining health. As cute and lovable as those dogs look, all I can think of is the unbelievable pain and heartbreak you will experience when they die. Honestly, I don't understand how people can put themselves through that, pet after pet after pet. This has been Depressing Thoughts, by Alex Stanley Ahh yes, the subject of pet ownership. All I can really say is that it is still worth the sadness at the end of things. Sometimes they die slowly and sometimes they die fast and too young But these little creatures fill one's life with big and small events every single day. Sometimes you find yourself dreading the end, whatever form that end might take, well before it ever happens and then you catch yourself and scold that part of you that isn't loving the present because one is already anticipating the future. I have a particular favorite in my pack of 4 dogs and she is already 12 and we have been through paralysis and back surgery with her ($13K worth of vet bills later) and she is my doting and giving companion who carries my gloves up from the arena after a ride and who takes my ball cap off my head to carry it into where it is hung and who comes to work with me every day to lie next to me for 8 uncomplaining hours and who climbs up onto the bed to lie at my feet all night and who I will, inevitably, have to watch die. It will rip the very heart out of where it beats in me and I will feel bereft and gutted. That is how it is. When you love as deeply as I do for my animals then you have to pay the price when they go. Every time they do they take a piece of me with them just as every time another one shows up in my life they bring a little piece back.
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Even five minutes of loving can make an hour of no love disappear into the present of the loving. What a beautiful thought! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : What is funny Ann, is that this dog, looks just like my neighbor's dog who is my favorite, and the most special of their three dogs. She was rescued from a crack house by their son, who is a police officer. They named her Mary Jane, and she has herding instincts. Before that was Dutchess, the husky mix who died, and before that was Heidi. The problem is that they keep the dogs outside, all the time, except when it is bitterly cold, so they only seem to live six years, or so. It is not for me to interfere. I am the treat neighbor who gives them fresh roasted (non spiced) chicken treats at least once a day, and prolonged petting. Sometimes even take them for walks. You're a good man Steve. Do what you can. The fact that you care is not a wasted thing. Even five minutes of loving can make an hour of no love disappear into the present of the loving. No small act of kindness is ever wasted. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Maybe think about the life you are giving them as opposed to the life they might have if you don't give them a home. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : I grew up in a petless household because my family's experiment in dog ownership ended before my time when George Washington, a dachshund, grew ornery after my sister kept trying to ride him. My only experience with pet ownership was the 16 years that our household was dominated by cats, and that came to a tragic end, 13 months ago, when we had to put down our most beloved kitty. What's especially sad is that of our 16 years with her, what stands out the most in my memory of her is her final months of declining health. As cute and lovable as those dogs look, all I can think of is the unbelievable pain and heartbreak you will experience when they die. Honestly, I don't understand how people can put themselves through that, pet after pet after pet. This has been Depressing Thoughts, by Alex Stanley Ahh yes, the subject of pet ownership. All I can really say is that it is still worth the sadness at the end of things. Sometimes they die slowly and sometimes they die fast and too young But these little creatures fill one's life with big and small events every single day. Sometimes you find yourself dreading the end, whatever form that end might take, well before it ever happens and then you catch yourself and scold that part of you that isn't loving the present because one is already anticipating the future. I have a particular favorite in my pack of 4 dogs and she is already 12 and we have been through paralysis and back surgery with her ($13K worth of vet bills later) and she is my doting and giving companion who carries my gloves up from the arena after a ride and who takes my ball cap off my head to carry it into where it is hung and who comes to work with me every day to lie next to me for 8 uncomplaining hours and who climbs up onto the bed to lie at my feet all night and who I will, inevitably, have to watch die. It will rip the very heart out of where it beats in me and I will feel bereft and gutted. That is how it is. When you love as deeply as I do for my animals then you have to pay the price when they go. Every time they do they take a piece of me with them just as every time another one shows up in my life they bring a little piece back.
