[FairfieldLife] Re: Do nothing and accomplish everything.

2011-08-20 Thread Yifu
question: does the knowledge/realization of do nothing and accomplish 
everything affect the content of one's choices? (apart from intellectualizing 
about the topic); for example - say - in the event that your next door 
neighbor's house is being being invaded by would-be robbers. Or, protecting 
yourself or others from muggers. Or, going to a doctor when necessary. Thx
...
The apparent dream people are performing apparent acts in the apparent dream 
world; which - unfortunately, leads to no edifying conclusions as to cause and 
effect, whatsoever; and may bring us back to square one in terms of which 
actions to perform, or not.

 If a dream person is being attacked by a mugger, do something about it, dream 
or not.  The real question is one of importance to the apparent dreamers: if in 
that world, there is some value in performing certain actions as opposed to 
others.

 Game theory addresses the riddles without necessarily answering them, or the 
Paradoxes. In game theory, various values or weights are attached to choices; 
and the story bascially ends there; then basically wait for the outcome.
 The Self is equally uninvolved in both the E. and un-E'd people; as well as 
for rocks, the sky, radioactive babies, whatever. E. doesn't necessarily change 
the content of choices.
 
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 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote:
  
   I interpret this as meaning do nothing as the self, and
   everything will be accomplished by the Self. In waking
   state it makes no sense at all.
  
  FWIW, that's the exact opposite of what MMY meant by
  it, with reference to the Gita. For the enlightened
  person, it's the Self that is the nondoer, and the
  self that acts according to the dictates of the gunas.
 
 * * That was my first thought too, Judy. But then I saw what Jim meant -- 
 when we (small selves) are surrendered to Wholeness (big Self), it appears 
 that Wholeness is running the whole show, and we do nothing. But from the 
 other point of view, as the Gita says, We as wholeness do nothing, and the 
 I-particles, the small selves, do it all. I suspect that no-one actually does 
 anything, big-S or small-s, but it all just gets done (or appears to get 
 done) anyhow. 
 
 Who does a dream, anyway? The dreamer isn't doing anything but watching it 
 unfold, and the dream-characters don't really exist as separate entities, so  
 they aren't really doing anything, either, though when we are identified with 
 one of the characters, we sure think we are doing something!





[FairfieldLife] Re: Do nothing and accomplish everything.

2011-08-20 Thread RoryGoff


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@... wrote:

 question: does the knowledge/realization of do nothing and accomplish 
 everything affect the content of one's choices? (apart from 
 intellectualizing about the topic); for example - say - in the event that 
 your next door neighbor's house is being being invaded by would-be robbers. 
 Or, protecting yourself or others from muggers. Or, going to a doctor when 
 necessary. Thx

* * It's an interesting question, Yifu, but I'm not sure how to answer it, as 
you appear at times to be asking me to consider hypotheticals as if they really 
exist. Action continues, if that's what you mean. My neighbor's house has never 
been invaded by would-be robbers. I am not as a rule aware of any muggers to 
protect myself or others from. My world is generally harmonious and loving. On 
the one occasion about 27 years ago when I felt that potential muggers were 
considering my wife and me and another woman as targets, I simply became very 
very large and they left us alone. I do go to the doctor or the dentist when 
necessary. I suppose were violence actually required of me for some reason, I 
would be whole-heartedly and lovingly violent. I have no problem being angry 
when anger is required, or having another be angry at me; anger is love too. 
Sometimes a good storm is just what is needed to clear the air.
 
 The apparent dream people are performing apparent acts in the apparent dream 
 world; which - unfortunately, leads to no edifying conclusions as to cause 
 and effect, whatsoever; and may bring us back to square one in terms of 
 which actions to perform, or not.

* * Generally speaking, you know what to do in any given moment, don't you? Or 
if you don't, your body does :-)

  If a dream person is being attacked by a mugger, do something about it, 
 dream or not.  The real question is one of importance to the apparent 
 dreamers: if in that world, there is some value in performing certain 
 actions as opposed to others.

* * Of course we do something about it, dream or not. Action continues. And if 
we do the best we can, that is all that we can do, and all that Wholeness asks 
of us. And in any given moment, we all of us are indeed doing the very best we 
can as it appears to us in that moment, all things considered. So we are 
actually all of us performing, moment by moment, the very best action possible 
for us to do. It is not fair to second-guess ourselves or others harshly after 
the fact for having made a mistake. We all learn by trial and error, in a 
kind of cybernetic feedback. Everything, even our rebellions and mistakes, are 
actually perfectly helping Wholeness to expand to where it was not, and we all 
are always, consciously or not, perfectly serving the will of Wholeness, doing 
right action.

  Game theory addresses the riddles without necessarily answering them, or the 
 Paradoxes. In game theory, various values or weights are attached to choices; 
 and the story bascially ends there; then basically wait for the outcome.
  The Self is equally uninvolved in both the E. and un-E'd people; as well as 
 for rocks, the sky, radioactive babies, whatever. E. doesn't necessarily 
 change the content of choices.

* * On the one hand nothing has changed; on the other hand Awakening has 
radically shifted everything, in that I am fearless and whole and loving and 
act as I must in each moment, regardless of hypothetical consequences. Now, 
being in a sense dead, I live entirely for others, as it were. I delight in 
ushering my hungry-ghost children or I-particles back Home into their perfect 
Paradises. But it is still an entirely selfish act for me to do so, as in 
helping enlighten others I am actually only refining my own bodily 
enlightenment. There is really only one body here: Ours.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Do nothing and accomplish everything.

2011-08-20 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@... wrote:

 question: does the knowledge/realization of do nothing and 
 accomplish everything affect the content of one's choices? 
 (apart from intellectualizing about the topic); 

Good question. I don't see how it could fail to
affect one's choices. The intellectualizing you
speak of in this case amounts to maintaining a deep,
fundamental, core belief that someone or something
*else* other than self does everything. If one
truly believes this, how much effort -- however 
half-hearted it may be -- are they really going to
put into doing themselves? 

 for example - say - in the event that your next door neighbor's 
 house is being being invaded by would-be robbers. Or, 
 protecting yourself or others from muggers. Or, going to a 
 doctor when necessary. Thx

As I suspect you're suggesting, I've seen True 
Believers in the I am not the doer theory do
absolutely nothing in such circumstances. And
then -- the capper as far as I'm concerned in
terms of intellectual dishonesty -- whine and moan
about the unfairness of it all, and how what was
done by the God or Laws Of Nature they claim to
believe in was off this time, and treated them
unfairly. I suspect you've seen the same thing.

 The apparent dream people are performing apparent acts in 
 the apparent dream world; which - unfortunately, leads to 
 no edifying conclusions as to cause and effect, whatsoever; 
 and may bring us back to square one in terms of which 
 actions to perform, or not.

This has never concerned me because personally I
have never bought into the the world is an illusion
meme. For whatever reason, I always gravitated -- even
in my TB TM days -- to MMY's Knowledge [and reality]
is different in different states of consciousness meme.
For me, the relative world very *much* exists. And so
does the absolute. The latter does not invalidate the
existence of the former, and does not in any way mean
that the relative world doesn't really exist. They are
just separate realities defined to some extent by the
predominant states of consciousness associated with 
them and perceiving them.

Therefore, if I find myself in a relative world situation,
confronted by the need to make a decision, at the back of
my mind there is NOT the nagging thought that says, This
does not really exist. And even if it did, I'm not the
person making the decision. That's something that the TB
I am not the doer types might be subconsciously thinking.

My subconscious, on the other hand, would be thinking, 
This appears to be a very real situation in a very real
world that requires me to make a very real decision. Ain't
no one or nothing going to make that decision for me, and
I wouldn't want them to if they/it could. I am content 
with making my own decisions, thank you.

 If a dream person is being attacked by a mugger, do something 
 about it, dream or not.  

Exactly. Kick the dream mugger's ass. How much force you 
choose to use when doing so depends on the particular reality
of the dream. If it's a sleep dream, you can cut the mugger
up into small bits and feed him to your dream pets. Try this
in a waking dream and you're gonna do more time in prison
than the mugger would. One of the corollaries of believing
in separate realities as I do is that one has to keep track
of which one one is operating in, and the rules and regs 
associated with that level of reality. :-)

 The real question is one of importance to the apparent dreamers: 
 if in that world, there is some value in performing certain 
 actions as opposed to others.

This is the bottom line of what I see as the essentially
intellectually dishonest stance of the I am not the doer
types. Many of them, if forced to declare what they really
believe, believe that nothing they do is really done by
them. On the other hand, would they ever miss doing one of
the things that they believe helps them achieve enlighten-
ment more quickly? No way. They would not skip a meditation
or a dome session. They wouldn't eat meat, even if it *was*
God or the Laws Of Nature that put it on the plate in front
of them when dining at a friend's house. 

*While* claiming that they are not the doers, they do all
the time -- 24/7 every day. They even do while performing
the meditations they wouldn't skip on a bet, *choosing* to
come back to the mantra when they find that they are not
thinking it. 

In other words, they live (as I see it) in a 24/7 form of
cognitive dissonance -- believing that the world works one
way, but living in a manner that implies it works exactly
the opposite. I never have to deal with that cognitive 
dissonance, because my internal view of how the world works
-- both relative and absolute -- is consistent when dealing
with either. Since I believe that the relative world abso-
lutely exists, and that my actions there are not only in
my control and matter, I do when acting in that world.
In meditation, if I choose to let go and allow my mind
to settle into a 

[FairfieldLife] webOs on iPad!

2011-08-20 Thread cardemaister

FWIW, webOS on iPad:

http://thenextweb.com/apple/2011/08/19/hp-tested-webos-on-an-ipad-it-ran-over-twice-as-fast/

HP's WebOS team almost certainly had an idea that the company's new tablet, the 
TouchPad, had very little chance of challenging Apple's dominance in the tablet 
market, as the company's webOS operating system was running over twice as 
fast on its rival's iPad 2 tablet, a source close to the subject revealed to 
The Next Web. 



[FairfieldLife] Is I am not the doer just another brain fart?

2011-08-20 Thread turquoiseb
Not having read the Eagleman book Curtis has been talking
about recently, but relating it to the concept of the I 
am not the doer meme being discussed in other threads,
I find myself wondering. 

I'm wondering whether the subjective experience one can 
have ( and I know that this is true because I've had this
experience myself...or lack of myself :-) of I am not 
the doer is nothing more than becoming *aware* of the 
disconnect between how our brains perceive the world vs.
how they really perceive it.

Most of the time our brains fill in and construct fan-
tasies about how the world works, based on the data our
brains perceive. But what if witnessing were nothing
more than a brain fart that interferes with with construc-
tion of those fantasies? What if it isn't a higher state
of consciousness at all, merely a different mode of brain
functioning, and no more related to reality than the 
ordinary modes of brain functioning?

If, as Eagleman's research suggests, our subjective sense 
of self is an illusion constructed by the brain based on
data it can't really handle, what makes anyone believe that 
the subjective sense of Self is any different? What makes
them believe that this subjective experience of Self is 
any higher or more real than the experience of self?

I suggest that the answer is found in belief, and in a 
lifetime's worth of indoctrination. Those who believe that
a period of no-thought in meditation is proof of the 
existence of an Absolute or an experience of the Self
HAVE BEEN TOLD THIS. The belief did *not* spring 
up automatically in them; they were told that it was true.
Then, when they experienced the promised periods of
no-thought, they interpreted them THE WAY THEY HAD
BEEN TOLD TO. Same with witnessing.

Personally I see no reason to believe that ANY subjective
state of awareness or mode of perception is the highest
or ultimate state of consciousness. They're *all* brain
farts in my opinion. It's just that some are less smelly
than others. :-)




[FairfieldLife] Stein, the Author's Friend

2011-08-20 Thread turquoiseb
No, this isn't the rag-on-Judy rap you're expecting. :-) Au contraire,
Pierre. Instead it's an appreciation of what a good editor can do for
aspiring writers when they do it right.

I really think Judy might enjoy Woody Allen's Midnight In Paris, if
for no other reason than to see Kathy Bates' performance in the film as
Gertrude Stein. As several film critics have noted, she really captures
the magic of this formidable woman, remarkably the same magic Hemingway
saw in her in A Moveable Feast.

She was more than editor and critic; she was mentor. Her genius was in
recognizing talent, and then generously and compassionately nurturing
it, rather than squashing it. Try to imagine, watching the film, what
hearing raw, uncaring criticism from Gertrude Stein would have done to
poor Gil. It could have sent him running back to the safe mediocrity of
writing safe mediocre scripts for Hollywood.

Instead she found a way to appreciate his good qualities as a writer and
gently push them in a direction that might be more acceptable to an
audience outside his own head. I really gained an appreciation of what a
good editor could be watching this performance, and interestingly that
it's congruent with what a good spiritual teacher (as opposed to the bad
ones we talk about often) could be. The magic seems to lie in spotting
talent and encouraging it. While there is room in this process for
tough love, and telling an aspiring writer (or an aspiring spiritual
seeker) that they haven't quite got everything nailed yet, there is a
way of saying this that builds them up as opposed to tearing them
down. I wish more editors were like Gertrude Stein, as portrayed in
this film. For that matter, I wish more spiritual teachers were like
her.





[FairfieldLife] Managing an attractive young woman with large breasts

2011-08-20 Thread Bob Price
You can thank Curtis for this post.



I’m still interested in techniques that can be employed to better manage 

the uncertainties of perception. The following describes; a situation that 
recently put me in great perceptual uncertainty---some of the techniques I 
might have employed to manage the uncertainty, and a request for other posters 
to share any technique suggestions they might want to post.  

The wife owns her own company and summons me to her 
office from time to time to consult for her on various commercial activities. 
Although I know she does this because of my vast experience and overall 
brilliance,
she claims it’s to get me away from FFL posting which appears to be causing 
me tennis elbow (in both arms).

My latest engagement was related to human resource considerations for a new 
hire 
and an existing staff member. Specifically, one staff member I was asked to 
help is 
an attractive young woman with noticeably large breasts. For background, this 
woman graduated 
with honours from Stanford and about 70% of the time she exceeds her managers 
expectations 
when executing tasks she has been delegated.  Unfortunately, for the other 30% 
of her time she 
reverts to a Marilyn persona to distract colleagues from noticing 
her significant screw ups. Some 
may know the persona I’m describing---voice becomes childlike and body 
language screams 
“save me”. Not to digress, but I’ve often wondered why great Moms teach their 
daughters to avoid 
“wolves” but say nothing to their sons about catching the next plane out of 
town when you run into 
a damsel in distress. I can’t imagine what I could have saved being on time for 
that plane.  

In the case of the attractive young woman with large breasts---when I sat down 
across from her in  
her cubicle---I believe this in not uncommon with guys in this situation, I 
employed an uncertainty management
technique by pretending I wasn’t imagining her naked while she pretended that 
my thinking was as professional as my behaviour. 
 I would describe my performance as not unlike being on an  MDA drip and 
pretending its not making me that happy. The end 
result was not only the normal unreliability of perception, but a mutual non 
verbal agreement to lie about what was obviously 
occurring at the time. The results are not only a type of ‘not taking the 
reality of my perceptions too seriously---what I believe is 
the essence of uncertainty in perceptions, but also the two of us performing 
what Brando described to 
Larry King as: “everyone is an actor its just that some of us get paid better 
than others for doing it.”

With a desire to be more effective, I’ve considered various techniques that 
might help this type of
uncertain perception become more manageable: 

1. Looking at my shoes during the meeting.

2. Looking at her shoes during the meeting (the problem with this option was 
that it triggered thoughts of her naked with only her shoes on).
3. Asking her to look at my shoes during the meeting. (God know the legal 
consequences of this option)
4. Putting her at ease by talking about Heisenberg’s “uncertainty principal. 
(I believe she has a science degree)
5. Employ Herr Edelstein’s technique of putting her at ease with an off colour 
joke.
6. Win her over by telling her I know Curtis.
7. Pretend I’m enlightened.
8. Tell her I used to know Robin Carson.
9. Tell her I have a connection in Amsterdam.
10. Quit the engagement because the wife is obviously trying to set me up.

Any technique suggestions you feel like sharing would be appreciated.

PS: For the new hire, I recommended to the wife that she hire the gay woman she 
interviewed. 
She’s by far the best candidate. When I welcomed her to the company she gave me 
firm handshake
and the pain from my tennis elbow that shot up my arm almost put me in Samadhi. 
Obviously tennis elbow is no reason to give up FFL.

[FairfieldLife] Re: St. Gemma Galgani

2011-08-20 Thread cardemaister


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@... wrote:

 St. Gemma Galgani, The Gem of Christ - (another levitator)...
 http://www.stgemmagalgani.com/


Can one say that as long as no TMer levitates, Christianity is
leading, say,  6 - 0 (in soccer, that is)?



[FairfieldLife] Re: St. Gemma Galgani

2011-08-20 Thread cardemaister
Edit ('as' added)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@ wrote:
 
  St. Gemma Galgani, The Gem of Christ - (another levitator)...
  http://www.stgemmagalgani.com/
 
 
 Can one say that as long as no TMer levitates, Christianity is
 leading, say,  6 - 0 (as in soccer, that is)?





[FairfieldLife] Re: Managing an attractive young woman with large breasts

2011-08-20 Thread turquoiseb
Bob, while I understand the predilection that might
make this situation such a quandary for you, I can
offer no techniques that can help you. The reason is
that I'm just not overshadowed by big breasts. Unless
they are so large that they're casting an actual shadow
on me, that is. 

I'm just SO not a breast man. The biggest I can handle
aesthetically are on Deborah Ann Woll, who plays the
delightful Jessica on True Blood, and that's because
they just go so well with the rest of her. Everything
is in pretty much perfect proportion. So unlike the
Jason character in the series, who, when asked while
having a panic attack to focus on something comforting,
gazed at her chest, I would not immediately focus on 
Jessica's -- or any woman's -- breasts.

However, I have had some experience trying to maintain
professionalism while addressing women whose beauty 
(or lack thereof) might be a distraction, so I pass 
along some wisdom from the Holy Tradition. Ask yourself,
What would Shankara do? and view the women as bags of 
feces and urine. That's taking the holy high road. 
Besides, what woman wouldn't be complimented by being 
considered a bag of shit?

Just as an aside, Bob, what editor do you use when com-
posing your posts? I ask because below I have had to
go through and remove all the instances of  mysterious
left all over the place, and the ’ symbols used instead
of single quotes. And that still leaves lots of others.
This leads me to believe that you might be writing in
Microsoft Word or some other editor with its defaults
still left on. I'd consider treating those autoconvert
options as funbags of shit if I were you. :-)


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote:

 You can thank Curtis for this post.
 
 I'm still interested in techniques that can be employed to better manage 
 the uncertainties of perception. The following describes; a situation that 
 recently put me in great perceptual uncertainty---some of the techniques I 
 might have employed to manage the uncertainty, and a request for other 
 posters 
 to share any technique suggestions they might want to post.  
 
 The wife owns her own company and summons me to her 
 office from time to time to consult for her on various commercial activities. 
 Although I know she does this because of my vast experience and overall 
 brilliance,
 she claims it's to get me away from FFL posting which appears to be causing 
 me tennis elbow (in both arms).
 
 My latest engagement was related to human resource considerations for a new 
 hire 
 and an existing staff member. Specifically, one staff member I was asked to 
 help is 
 an attractive young woman with noticeably large breasts. For background, this 
 woman graduated 
 with honours from Stanford and about 70% of the time she exceeds her managers 
 expectations 
 when executing tasks she has been delegated.  Unfortunately, for the other 
 30% of her time she 
 reverts to a Marilyn persona to distract colleagues from noticing her 
 significant screw ups. Some 
 may know the persona I'm describing---voice becomes childlike and body 
 language screams 
 €œsave me€. Not to digress, but I've often wondered why great Moms teach 
 their daughters to avoid 
 €œwolves€ but say nothing to their sons about catching the next plane out of 
 town when you run into 
 a damsel in distress. I can't imagine what I could have saved being on time 
 for that plane.  
 
 In the case of the attractive young woman with large breasts---when I sat 
 down across from her in  
 her cubicle---I believe this in not uncommon with guys in this situation, I 
 employed an uncertainty management
 technique by pretending I wasn't imagining her naked while she pretended that 
 my thinking was as professional as my behaviour. 
  I would describe my performance as not unlike being on an  MDA drip and 
 pretending its not making me that happy. The end 
 result was not only the normal unreliability of perception, but a mutual non 
 verbal agreement to lie about what was obviously 
 occurring at the time. The results are not only a type of €˜not taking the 
 reality of my perceptions too seriously---what I believe is 
 the essence of uncertainty in perceptions, but also the two of us performing 
 what Brando described to 
 Larry King as: €œeveryone is an actor its just that some of us get paid 
 better than others for doing it.€
 
 With a desire to be more effective, I've considered various techniques that 
 might help this type of
 uncertain perception become more manageable: 
 
 1. Looking at my shoes during the meeting.
 2. Looking at her shoes during the meeting (the problem with this option was 
 that it triggered thoughts of her naked with only her shoes on).
 3. Asking her to look at my shoes during the meeting. (God know the legal 
 consequences of this option)
 4. Putting her at ease by talking about Heisenberg's €œuncertainty 
 principal. (I believe she has a science degree)
 5. Employ Herr Edelstein's 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mantra Meditation

2011-08-20 Thread cardemaister


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:

 
 
 
  
  
   


 Om

hraang
   
   hring
  
  hraung
 
 saha


http://vempaimia.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/lyijykyna-saha.jpg





[FairfieldLife] Re: Letter in today's Ledger

2011-08-20 Thread cardemaister


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:

 
 On Aug 19, 2011, at 11:29 AM, cardemaister wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
  
  
   On Aug 18, 2011, at 9:36 PM, obbajeeba wrote:
  
This is the most stupidest thing I have ever read on FFL. IMHO
  
  
   Interesting to see how sheltered some TB's still are. It's been  
  known
   for decades that ME research is BS. Sounds like someone needs to
   get outside their own mindset a little more often, like at least
   every decade or two.
  
   It's sad how the sidha mindset restricts consciousness, but not
   surprising. As Patanjali tells us, siddhis are obstacles to samadhi
   and locks one into the outward stroke
  
 
  te samaadhaav upasargaa vyutthaane siddhayaH.
 
  So, you think you or your sour grapes Patañjali guru-s know  
  better than e.g. Vyaasa and Bhojadeva, what is the antecedent of  
  the pronoun 'te'? LoL!
 
 Vyutthana-samskaras will cause your consciousness to behave in a  
 certain way. That this pattern would not be conducive to samadhi is  
 not that surprising to me. YMMV.


Well, I think vyutthaana-saMskaara_s are a natural and necessary part of 
meditation:

vyutthaana-nirodha-saMskaarayor abhibhava-praadurbhaavau *nirodha-
kSaNa*-cittaanvayo nirodha-pariNaamaH.

Taimni:

Nirodha pariNaama is that transformation of the mind in which
it becomes *progressively* permeated by the condition of nirodha
which intervenes *momentarily* [kSaNa-ically - card] between an impression 
which is disappearing [out-going: vyutthaana -- card] and the impression which 
is taking its place. (YS III 9; emph. add.)



[FairfieldLife] Re: Letter in today's Ledger

2011-08-20 Thread cardemaister


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@... wrote:

 Taimni:
 
 Nirodha pariNaama is that transformation of the mind in which
 it becomes *progressively* permeated by the condition of nirodha
 which intervenes *momentarily* [kSaNa-ically - card] between an impression 
 which is disappearing [out-going: vyutthaana -- card] and the impression 
 which is taking its place. (YS III 9; emph. add.)


FWIW, here's Patañjali's definition for/of samaadhi-pariNaama:

sarvaarthataikaagratayoH kSayodayau cittasya samaadhi-pariNaamaH.

(sarva-arthataa-eka-gratayoH kSaya-udayau...)

Taimni:

samaadhi transformation is the (gradual) setting of the distractions
and simultaneous rising of one-pointedness.

Note the use of dvandva compounds (first one consisting of two 
karmadhaaraya compounds, I believe: sarva-arthataa - eka-gratayoH,
with genitive(aka possessive)/locative dual ending -yoH; second one, 
kSaya-udayau, with nominative dual ending -u).

Translating (approximately) word-for-word would render that suutra quite odd:

Many-pointedness[es] [and] one-pointednesses[?*] decay [and] rise [is] mind's 
samaadhi-transformation (or stuff).

*How does one write the possessives of words ending in double-s
correctly??



[FairfieldLife] Is this real? Or has this been happening inside my head?

2011-08-20 Thread turquoiseb
Curtis' musings about Eagleman's musings about the nature of perception
vs. reality for some reason reminded me of this line from the last Harry
Potter movie. (I think at this point I can indulge in spoilers, since
everyone interested in the HP 'verse has either seen the movie or read
the book or both by now.) It's a line spoken in the Bardo. Harry is
dead. Voldemort has smoked his ass REAL good.

While dead, however, Harry's consciousness continues on, and he finds
himself in an astral train station talking to Dumbledore. Who is
also...uh...dead. Ignoring their own deadnessitude, the two of them
manage to have a great conversation anyway, at the end of which Harry,
about to have to make a decision whether to remain dead or go back to
his life, asks that question:

Is this real? Or has this been happening inside my head?

Dumbledore replies, Of course it is happening inside your head, Harry,
but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?

One of the problems I have with the When the brain dies I die theory
is that I'm not convinced that it's true. I've had experiences that
convince me that it's not. True, I haven't died in a flatline,
pushing-up-daisies fashion. But I sure can remember having died. And
what came afterwards.

One could say that these memories may be false. But, might I ask, what
leads you to believe that *any* of your memories are true? If the
brain's ability to lie to itself is so strong, enabling it to distort
any data coming in to it, aren't *any* of your memories as likely to be
false as they are to be fact?

For me Dumbledore just nails it. Why can't the answer to Harry's
question be Both?





[FairfieldLife] 'A Sense of Doership'..

2011-08-20 Thread Robert
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7e59TVdjI3Qfeature=player_embedded

[FairfieldLife] Re: Letter in today's Ledger

2011-08-20 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@... wrote:
snip
 Many-pointedness[es] [and] one-pointednesses[?*] decay [and]
 rise [is] mind's samaadhi-transformation (or stuff).
 
 *How does one write the possessives of words ending in
 double-s correctly??

Apostrophe-s: one-pointedness's decay. Some people prefer just
the apostrophe: one pointedness' decay, but this is less common
these days.

One exception is words ending in double-s followed by sake:
for goodness' sake.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Stein, the Author's Friend

2011-08-20 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
snip
 She was more than editor and critic; she was mentor. Her
 genius was in recognizing talent, and then generously and 
 compassionately nurturing it, rather than squashing it.

Don't know how she's portrayed in the film, but while
she was a mentor, she actually wasn't either an editor
or a literary critic in any formal sense, just on an
ad hoc basis. She was, of course, herself a writer;
that's what she's primarily known for.

snip
 While there is room in this process for tough love, and
 telling an aspiring writer (or an aspiring spiritual
 seeker) that they haven't quite got everything nailed yet,
 there is a way of saying this that builds them up as
 opposed to tearing them down.

Duh. If you want the writer to keep writing, you damn well
better build them up. Knowing how to deliver critiques to
help writers develop their skills without discouraging 
them is essential for an editor.

(See my post #277649 for a small example.)




[FairfieldLife] The trouble with reality is capitalizing it

2011-08-20 Thread turquoiseb
One of the things I find myself noticing in Curtis' descriptions of
David Eagleman's findings and opinions is that Eagleman seems to make
the same assumption that religious people make. That is, that there is
something called Reality.

For him, as a scientist (not having read this book), Reality might be
defined as that which can be observed repeatedly by objective viewers or
using instruments invented by them (and thus sharing their human
assumptions about what can be perceived and measured and what cannot).
This objective Reality trumps any subjective notion of reality.

Meanwhile, the religionists or spiritual folks might argue that their
subjective experience of reality, especially if they're enlightened,
trumps any objective view of reality. Some of these folks believe that
the real world doesn't even exist, and all that does IS a subjective
presence. They call *that* Reality. Or God. Or Self. Whatever.

Me, I'm noticing that both sets of people seem to be thinking
hierarchically, as if reality were a pyramid of realities, at the top of
which was one big one called Reality, which supercedes any of the lower
realities.

I'm not sure I buy this. I'm still enough of a Castaneda fan to be able
to swing behind the idea of separate realities. They're all real. And
because I don't view the world hierarchically, I don't assume that any
of these separate realities are higher than others or trump them.
For me the separate realities coexist relationally, not hierarchically.
None of them is Reality.

Does any of this strike a resonance with anyone else here, or did the
delivery guy put funny mushrooms on my pizza again? You never can tell
here in the Netherlands.





[FairfieldLife] Re: -Golden Domes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

2011-08-20 Thread Buck
Dear Wiki Editors,  
Om no, no.  I have one complaint with this 'Golden Dome' Wiki entry.  That 
second paragraph.  As meditators we don't just believe this, we know that. 
Know it by experience.  You're cheapening the overall Meissner Effect of 
spirituality going on here
by declaring it as just some doctrine of belief that we believe in.  It's what 
we know by virtue of meditating.  It's Not just some 'belief'.  There is a 
difference.  Knowingness.  I know.  We know.  It is.  The science is even 
showing it.  It is known.  It's our experience.

Please fix your 'Golden_Domes' entry to better represent the Truth.
 
Yours in the M.E. of Fairfield, Iowa
-Buck
a meditator  



   FFL lurker finishes very informative page on the domes:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Domes 



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meissner_effect 


 Couple weeks ago I was at a State-wide meeting attended by mostly urban 
 educated Iowa folks who when they saw Fairfield along with my name on my 
 name-tag would ask about Fairfield.  What I found really interesting now 
 was how many folks living in Iowa really know nothing or extremely little 
 about TM or what is going on here in Fairfield.  If they knew anything most 
 of people were not aware that Maharishi had passed away.  Fairfield just was 
 not in their consciousness.  This wiki 'Golden-Dome' piece will work great 
 for folks who are more than casually interested.  I can think of quite a few 
 regular people out in the State who would appreciate the article.
 
 
 
  I love the line that says it smells like feet inside!
  
  
  
   Incredible research.  This serves as a great condensed narrative. I like 
   the voice in it.  I'd share this with anyone wondering about the utopian 
   story here in Fairfield.
   

   
   
   
Wow. Awesome project.  Seems balanced, evidently well referenced and 
fact checked.

FFL lurker finishes very informative page on the domes: 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Domes 


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Domes
   
  
 





[FairfieldLife] 13-year-old makes solar energy breakthrough

2011-08-20 Thread turquoiseb
This is one of those Why didn't anyone else think of 
this? and Why did it take someone who hasn't even hit
high school to think it up? kinda articles. 

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/technology/2011/08/13-year-old-looks-trees-makes-solar-power-breakthrough/41486/

This guy figured out how to make solar panels 30 to 50 
percent more efficient. 




[FairfieldLife] Re: 13-year-old makes solar energy breakthrough

2011-08-20 Thread whynotnow7
Amazing!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 This is one of those Why didn't anyone else think of 
 this? and Why did it take someone who hasn't even hit
 high school to think it up? kinda articles. 
 
 http://www.theatlanticwire.com/technology/2011/08/13-year-old-looks-trees-makes-solar-power-breakthrough/41486/
 
 This guy figured out how to make solar panels 30 to 50 
 percent more efficient.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Do nothing and accomplish everything.

2011-08-20 Thread whynotnow7
Hi Judy and Rory, Its a perception thing - I exist as an individual entity with 
all my wondrous gifts and challenges, surrounded by a seamless fabric of 
invisible dynamism, of tangible pregnancy, potential and love, like being able 
to easily breathe underwater again. After so many lifetimes I forgot what the 
ocean feels like, always there, a liquid fabric of infinite connections to play 
in, and interact with.

Everything I do is so intrinsically a part of that which surrounds me, so that 
the bodily entity of me reduces down to virtually nothing, except the same pure 
expression as that which surrounds me. 

Nothing becomes everything, not by virtue of expanding nothing, but rather, by 
bringing it into sync with everything else; the self does nothing, and the Self 
accomplishes everything.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote:
  
   I interpret this as meaning do nothing as the self, and
   everything will be accomplished by the Self. In waking
   state it makes no sense at all.
  
  FWIW, that's the exact opposite of what MMY meant by
  it, with reference to the Gita. For the enlightened
  person, it's the Self that is the nondoer, and the
  self that acts according to the dictates of the gunas.
 
 * * That was my first thought too, Judy. But then I saw what Jim meant -- 
 when we (small selves) are surrendered to Wholeness (big Self), it appears 
 that Wholeness is running the whole show, and we do nothing. But from the 
 other point of view, as the Gita says, We as wholeness do nothing, and the 
 I-particles, the small selves, do it all. I suspect that no-one actually does 
 anything, big-S or small-s, but it all just gets done (or appears to get 
 done) anyhow. 
 
 Who does a dream, anyway? The dreamer isn't doing anything but watching it 
 unfold, and the dream-characters don't really exist as separate entities, so  
 they aren't really doing anything, either, though when we are identified with 
 one of the characters, we sure think we are doing something!





[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Field of Dashed Dreams by Maureen Dowd NYT

2011-08-20 Thread seventhray1

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:

 No. No, you don't. Spending isn't out of control, and
 the worst *possible* time to cut back on spending is in a
 recession. Plus which, comparisons to Greece or Italy or
 Portugal are specious; those countries don't have the
 fiscal tools and flexibility and resources the U.S. does.
  I understand, but I thought we spent many tens of billions on the
stimulus package, and don't have much to show for it.
 Reducing the deficit by cutting spending is only going to
 do more harm to the economy, and it isn't necessary in
 the short term. We need to get the economy back on its
 feet before trying to tackle the deficit.
When people say the the economy back on its feet, I think that means
create more jobs.  How do you do that when manufacuring and even
professional jobs such as accounting jobs have been outsourced, and
continue to be outsourced?
  So, I don't even know if that would not have been the
  best way to go, as painful and dysfunctional as it
  would have been. But I feel he has done the best he
  could under the circumstances. The people on this
  forum seem to fault him for not pushing the liberal
  agenda hard enough.

 How sure are you that he *wants* to pursue a liberal
 agenda?
Well, the health care reform was his number priority.  He was not able
to get the reform that he wanted.  People argue that he traded away the
most important parts of that.  Legislation is often like that,
especially with the powerful interests that intensely lobbied it to keep
or remove certain parts of the legislation.   I think it was recommended
by some of his advisors, namely Rahm Emmanuel that he go for a less
sweeping reform - one that had a better chance of passage in the way he
envisioned it.  But whether you can say he really wanted the reforms in
the first place, I don't know, but I don't think that was the case.  I
think he very much wanted the reforms.
  I don't know if they reckoned the extent to which the
  oppostion would go in stopping this agenda.

 I dare you to read this article by Glenn Greenwald
 on Salon.com:
I read it, although briefly.  I think I understand his points.  But the
political climate does change.  Seems to me you didn't have the tea
partiers back then.  Some big differences between then and now.  I
didn't feel that the article made the stongest case for why the
President is ineffectual  or seems ineffecual.   Maybe the idea
proffered by Maharishi that national leaders can only give the people
what they deserve is as good a theory as any other.

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2011/08/18/obama_v_bus\
h/index.html

 http://tinyurl.com/42w2hme

 We tend to forget that Bush did quite well with his
 *conservative* agenda even when he had a Democratic
 Congress.

  I'm part of the 39% that approves of his performance.
  Not an unconditional approval by any means. But given
  the environment he has to work in, I give him my support.

 If he can't get anything done because of the Republicans,
 why is it important to reelect him? If the presidency is
 so weak in comparison to Congress, what does it matter
 who's in the White House? Why is anybody worried about a
 conservative winning the election if the president doesn't
 have the power to get Congress to pass his agenda?

 Something doesn't compute here.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Do nothing and accomplish everything.

2011-08-20 Thread sparaig
Small self surrounded by Big Self is not anything of value. 

CC precedes GC precedes UC. If you think you're having some kind of UC 
experience when not already in CC (no small self), then you're not having UC.


L.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote:
  
   I interpret this as meaning do nothing as the self, and
   everything will be accomplished by the Self. In waking
   state it makes no sense at all.
  
  FWIW, that's the exact opposite of what MMY meant by
  it, with reference to the Gita. For the enlightened
  person, it's the Self that is the nondoer, and the
  self that acts according to the dictates of the gunas.
 
 * * That was my first thought too, Judy. But then I saw what Jim meant -- 
 when we (small selves) are surrendered to Wholeness (big Self), it appears 
 that Wholeness is running the whole show, and we do nothing. But from the 
 other point of view, as the Gita says, We as wholeness do nothing, and the 
 I-particles, the small selves, do it all. I suspect that no-one actually does 
 anything, big-S or small-s, but it all just gets done (or appears to get 
 done) anyhow. 
 
 Who does a dream, anyway? The dreamer isn't doing anything but watching it 
 unfold, and the dream-characters don't really exist as separate entities, so  
 they aren't really doing anything, either, though when we are identified with 
 one of the characters, we sure think we are doing something!





[FairfieldLife] Re: 13-year-old makes solar energy breakthrough

2011-08-20 Thread seventhray1


You hear pundits say, America needs to take the lead in green energy
solutions-  that's the next frontier.  Green energy technology is
what's going to create the jobs.  And yet I just read that the biggest
domestic producers of solar panels in the US just went bankrupt, and is
moving their operations to China.  Federal and State grants totalled
$450,000,000* to get their plant in operation, but because of the lower
price of an chemical, they lost their pricing edge.  (their product used
less of the chemical, hence they had an edge).

*Going from memory, but I believe this is the correct amount, as high as
it seems.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 This is one of those Why didn't anyone else think of
 this? and Why did it take someone who hasn't even hit
 high school to think it up? kinda articles.


http://www.theatlanticwire.com/technology/2011/08/13-year-old-looks-tree\
s-makes-solar-power-breakthrough/41486/

 This guy figured out how to make solar panels 30 to 50
 percent more efficient.





[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Field of Dashed Dreams by Maureen Dowd NYT

2011-08-20 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote:
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  No. No, you don't. Spending isn't out of control, and
  the worst *possible* time to cut back on spending is in a
  recession. Plus which, comparisons to Greece or Italy or
  Portugal are specious; those countries don't have the
  fiscal tools and flexibility and resources the U.S. does.

 I understand, but I thought we spent many tens of billions
 on the stimulus package, and don't have much to show for it.

The stimulus did help quite a bit; it stopped the
hemmorhaging. But it wasn't big enough to turn things
around. We'd have been much worse off without the
stimulus, but we'd have been a lot better off with a
bigger one. The stimulus didn't work is a right-
wing talking point.

  Reducing the deficit by cutting spending is only going to
  do more harm to the economy, and it isn't necessary in
  the short term. We need to get the economy back on its
  feet before trying to tackle the deficit.

 When people say the the economy back on its feet, I think
 that means create more jobs.  How do you do that when
 manufacuring and even professional jobs such as accounting
 jobs have been outsourced, and continue to be outsourced?

You begin by creating jobs that can't be outsourced (like
fixing deteriorating infrastructure). Once you start
putting people back to work, they will have some money to
spend, which will create more demand, which will trigger
more hiring (including of acountants) to fulfill the
demand. You find ways to incentivize domestic hiring (or 
disincentivize outsourcing).

   So, I don't even know if that would not have been the
   best way to go, as painful and dysfunctional as it
   would have been. But I feel he has done the best he
   could under the circumstances. The people on this
   forum seem to fault him for not pushing the liberal
   agenda hard enough.
 
  How sure are you that he *wants* to pursue a liberal
  agenda?

 Well, the health care reform was his number priority.  He
 was not able to get the reform that he wanted.  People
 argue that he traded away the most important parts of that.
 Legislation is often like that, especially with the powerful 
 interests that intensely lobbied it to keep or remove
 certain parts of the legislation.   I think it was 
 recommended by some of his advisors, namely Rahm Emmanuel
 that he go for a less sweeping reform - one that had a
 better chance of passage in the way he envisioned it.  But
 whether you can say he really wanted the reforms in the
 first place, I don't know, but I don't think that was the
 case.  I think he very much wanted the reforms.

He wanted some of them, certainly. The question is 
whether he really wanted the reforms the healthcare
industry and the GOP opposed, or whether he was happy
to let them go (e.g., the public option). He sure
didn't fight for them very hard, if at all.

   I don't know if they reckoned the extent to which the
   oppostion would go in stopping this agenda.
 
  I dare you to read this article by Glenn Greenwald
  on Salon.com:

 I read it, although briefly.  I think I understand his points.
 But the political climate does change.  Seems to me you didn't
 have the tea partiers back then.

You had Democrats who were very strongly opposed to
many of Bush's agenda items, but he got most of them
through anyway.

 Some big differences between then and now.  I
 didn't feel that the article made the stongest case for why
 the President is ineffectual  or seems ineffecual.

Greenwald's point is that Obama seems ineffectual
only if one assumes he wanted different goals. Once
you realize he's center-right rather than center-left
(let alone liberal), his behavior makes a lot more
sense.

 Maybe the idea proffered by Maharishi that national
 leaders can only give the people what they deserve is
 as good a theory as any other.

That's fine as a theory, but we have to deal with the
reality.


http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2011/08/18/obama_v_bus\
 h/index.html
 
  http://tinyurl.com/42w2hme
 
  We tend to forget that Bush did quite well with his
  *conservative* agenda even when he had a Democratic
  Congress.
 
   I'm part of the 39% that approves of his performance.
   Not an unconditional approval by any means. But given
   the environment he has to work in, I give him my support.
 
  If he can't get anything done because of the Republicans,
  why is it important to reelect him? If the presidency is
  so weak in comparison to Congress, what does it matter
  who's in the White House? Why is anybody worried about a
  conservative winning the election if the president doesn't
  have the power to get Congress to pass his agenda?
 
  Something doesn't compute here.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Do nothing and accomplish everything.

2011-08-20 Thread authfriend
Wasn't challenging anybody's perception, BTW, just wanted
to point out how the guy who coined the phrase meant it.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote:

 Hi Judy and Rory, Its a perception thing - I exist as an individual entity 
 with all my wondrous gifts and challenges, surrounded by a seamless fabric of 
 invisible dynamism, of tangible pregnancy, potential and love, like being 
 able to easily breathe underwater again. After so many lifetimes I forgot 
 what the ocean feels like, always there, a liquid fabric of infinite 
 connections to play in, and interact with.
 
 Everything I do is so intrinsically a part of that which surrounds me, so 
 that the bodily entity of me reduces down to virtually nothing, except the 
 same pure expression as that which surrounds me. 
 
 Nothing becomes everything, not by virtue of expanding nothing, but rather, 
 by bringing it into sync with everything else; the self does nothing, and the 
 Self accomplishes everything.
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote:
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote:
   
I interpret this as meaning do nothing as the self, and
everything will be accomplished by the Self. In waking
state it makes no sense at all.
   
   FWIW, that's the exact opposite of what MMY meant by
   it, with reference to the Gita. For the enlightened
   person, it's the Self that is the nondoer, and the
   self that acts according to the dictates of the gunas.
  
  * * That was my first thought too, Judy. But then I saw what Jim meant -- 
  when we (small selves) are surrendered to Wholeness (big Self), it appears 
  that Wholeness is running the whole show, and we do nothing. But from the 
  other point of view, as the Gita says, We as wholeness do nothing, and the 
  I-particles, the small selves, do it all. I suspect that no-one actually 
  does anything, big-S or small-s, but it all just gets done (or appears to 
  get done) anyhow. 
  
  Who does a dream, anyway? The dreamer isn't doing anything but watching 
  it unfold, and the dream-characters don't really exist as separate 
  entities, so  they aren't really doing anything, either, though when we are 
  identified with one of the characters, we sure think we are doing something!




[FairfieldLife] Re: Letter in today's Ledger

2011-08-20 Thread richardwillytexwilliams


  So, you think you or your sour grapes Patañjali 
  guru-s know better than e.g. Vyaasa and Bhojadeva, 
  what is the antecedent of the pronoun 'te'? LoL!
 
Vaj:
 Vyutthana-samskaras will cause your consciousness to 
 behave in a certain way.

Says who? LoL!

It is clearly stated in the scriptures that the Purusha 
is entirley seperate from the Prakriti. All the Upanishad 
teachers were transcendentalists and they all agreed with 
this, with the exception of the materialist Charvaka.

There is Purusha, which stands alone, eternal and 
unchanghing, and there is Prakriti, governed by three 
gunas, and thirty-two consituents.

Comprising the whole in one easily comprehended matrix 
of change. The two are totally separate - one being an 
object of knowledge and the other being the witnessing 
subject, the Transcendental Person.



[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Field of Dashed Dreams by Maureen Dowd NYT

2011-08-20 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote:
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
snip
   I dare you to read this article by Glenn Greenwald
   on Salon.com:
 
  I read it, although briefly.  I think I understand his points.
  But the political climate does change.  Seems to me you didn't
  have the tea partiers back then.
 
 You had Democrats who were very strongly opposed to
 many of Bush's agenda items, but he got most of them
 through anyway.
 
  Some big differences between then and now.

Another big difference, BTW, was that Obama came into
office with a huge mandate and all kinds of goodwill,
including a Democratic House and (for a month or so
anyway) a filibuster-proof Democratic majority in the
Senate. Bush didn't have a mandate (Gore won the
popular vote, remember), and he had a great deal of
ill will because of how he won.





  I
  didn't feel that the article made the stongest case for why
  the President is ineffectual  or seems ineffecual.
 
 Greenwald's point is that Obama seems ineffectual
 only if one assumes he wanted different goals. Once
 you realize he's center-right rather than center-left
 (let alone liberal), his behavior makes a lot more
 sense.
 
  Maybe the idea proffered by Maharishi that national
  leaders can only give the people what they deserve is
  as good a theory as any other.
 
 That's fine as a theory, but we have to deal with the
 reality.
 
 
 http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2011/08/18/obama_v_bus\
  h/index.html
  
   http://tinyurl.com/42w2hme
  
   We tend to forget that Bush did quite well with his
   *conservative* agenda even when he had a Democratic
   Congress.
  
I'm part of the 39% that approves of his performance.
Not an unconditional approval by any means. But given
the environment he has to work in, I give him my support.
  
   If he can't get anything done because of the Republicans,
   why is it important to reelect him? If the presidency is
   so weak in comparison to Congress, what does it matter
   who's in the White House? Why is anybody worried about a
   conservative winning the election if the president doesn't
   have the power to get Congress to pass his agenda?
  
   Something doesn't compute here.





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Managing an attractive young woman with large breasts

2011-08-20 Thread Bob Price





From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 1:50:28 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Managing an attractive young woman with large 
breasts


  
Bob, while I understand the predilection that might
make this situation such a quandary for you, I can
offer no techniques that can help you. The reason is
that I'm just not overshadowed by big breasts. Unless
they are so large that they're casting an actual shadow
on me, that is. 
Nor do I unless the owner is young, attractive
and in distress. With my taste running from
a young Audrey Hepburn (i also see dead people) to
Selma Hayek I think, as with most men, its the distress
that makes my perceptual uncertainty less manageable.

 
I'm just SO not a breast man. The biggest I can handle
aesthetically are on Deborah Ann Woll, who plays the
delightful Jessica on True Blood, and that's because
they just go so well with the rest of her. Everything
is in pretty much perfect proportion. So unlike the
Jason character in the series, who, when asked while
having a panic attack to focus on something comforting,
gazed at her chest, I would not immediately focus on 
Jessica's -- or any woman's -- breasts.
I’ve never watched “True Blood”, but now
plan to change that. I’m pleased your endorphins 
ramp with many of the other forms of feminine beauty.
That said---you’ll know this from your study of the advertising
industry---large breasts in an attractive young women and
excessive disposable income---in this culture, are not dissimilar in their 
impact
on perceptual uncertainty techniques (PUTS). 

However, I have had some experience trying to maintain
professionalism while addressing women whose beauty 
(or lack thereof) might be a distraction, so I pass 
along some wisdom from the Holy Tradition. Ask yourself,
What would Shankara do? and view the women as bags of 
feces and urine. That's taking the holy high road. 
Besides, what woman wouldn't be complimented by being 
considered a bag of shit?
Thank you, if this isn’t a PUT I’m not
sure what is. Another technique I employ
is imagining that I’m re-reading and re-reading and
re-reading and re-reading and re-reading
and re-reading and re-reading and re-readiing
the old FFL threats of posters I dislike.

Just as an aside, Bob, what editor do you use when com-
posing your posts? I ask because below I have had to
go through and remove all the instances of  mysterious
left all over the place, and the ’ symbols used instead
of single quotes. And that still leaves lots of others.
This leads me to believe that you might be writing in
Microsoft Word or some other editor with its defaults
still left on. I'd consider treating those autoconvert
options as funbags of shit if I were you. :-)
Turq, thank you for this. Other than the wife
there is nothing that returns me to a state 
of humility as promptly as IT issues. Any help anyone
can extend me in this regard is more than
appreciated. I’m not sure whats causing it.
I use web based yahoo mail (newest version)
my Mac OS X is v. 10.6.7 and I use Safari.
I will use my personal higher power (google)
and the words you shared to describe the issue 
too try and figure out the problem. Since I’m not a pro
like youself I sometimes save a post to draft---when
the elbows are acting up---rather than finish it
in one sitting. I stopped buying anything MSFT
(including deep out of the money calls) when the
Shrub Justice department refused to break them up.
 
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote:

 You can thank Curtis for this post.
 
 I'm still interested in techniques that can be employed to better manage 
 the uncertainties of perception. The following describes; a situation that 
 recently put me in great perceptual uncertainty---some of the techniques I 
 might have employed to manage the uncertainty, and a request for other 
 posters 
 to share any technique suggestions they might want to post. 
 
 The wife owns her own company and summons me to her 
 office from time to time to consult for her on various commercial activities. 
 Although I know she does this because of my vast experience and overall 
 brilliance,
 she claims it's to get me away from FFL posting which appears to be causing 
 me tennis elbow (in both arms).
 
 My latest engagement was related to human resource considerations for a new 
 hire 
 and an existing staff member. Specifically, one staff member I was asked to 
 help is 
 an attractive young woman with noticeably large breasts. For background, this 
 woman graduated 
 with honours from Stanford and about 70% of the time she exceeds her managers 
 expectations 
 when executing tasks she has been delegated.  Unfortunately, for the other 
 30% of her time she 
 reverts to a Marilyn persona to distract colleagues from noticing her 
 significant screw ups. Some 
 may know the persona I'm describing---voice becomes childlike and body 
 language 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Letter in today's Ledger

2011-08-20 Thread Vaj

On Aug 20, 2011, at 5:12 AM, cardemaister wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:
 
  
  On Aug 19, 2011, at 11:29 AM, cardemaister wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
   
   
On Aug 18, 2011, at 9:36 PM, obbajeeba wrote:
   
 This is the most stupidest thing I have ever read on FFL. IMHO
   
   
Interesting to see how sheltered some TB's still are. It's been 
   known
for decades that ME research is BS. Sounds like someone needs to
get outside their own mindset a little more often, like at least
every decade or two.
   
It's sad how the sidha mindset restricts consciousness, but not
surprising. As Patanjali tells us, siddhis are obstacles to samadhi
and locks one into the outward stroke
   
  
   te samaadhaav upasargaa vyutthaane siddhayaH.
  
   So, you think you or your sour grapes Patañjali guru-s know 
   better than e.g. Vyaasa and Bhojadeva, what is the antecedent of 
   the pronoun 'te'? LoL!
  
  Vyutthana-samskaras will cause your consciousness to behave in a 
  certain way. That this pattern would not be conducive to samadhi is 
  not that surprising to me. YMMV.
 
 
 Well, I think vyutthaana-saMskaara_s are a natural and necessary part of 
 meditation:
 
 vyutthaana-nirodha-saMskaarayor abhibhava-praadurbhaavau *nirodha-
 kSaNa*-cittaanvayo nirodha-pariNaamaH.
 
 Taimni:
 
 Nirodha pariNaama is that transformation of the mind in which
 it becomes *progressively* permeated by the condition of nirodha
 which intervenes *momentarily* [kSaNa-ically - card] between an impression 
 which is disappearing [out-going: vyutthaana -- card] and the impression 
 which is taking its place. (YS III 9; emph. add.)

It's the natural result of the failure to maintain samadhi. 
Rinse-repeat-rinse-repeat…

If you establish the grooves in the mind to NOT maintain samadhi, you'll get 
nowhere. That's Patanjali's point. In introspective samadhis you want to extend 
the amount of time you can be in samadhi until it becomes permanent, you do not 
want to create the habitual circumstance that keeps you popping back out!



[FairfieldLife] Re: Karl Marx was Right

2011-08-20 Thread richardwillytexwilliams


  Why don't you explain to us how you're 
  going to feed yourself if the U.S. 
  economy collapses?
 
Bhairitu:
 I can walk to the local grocery store(s).
 
You'll be doing a lot of walking after you 
fail to pay your mortage, if the U.S. economy 
collapses. But, you can forget finding much 
on store shelves if that happens!

With a collapsed U.S. economy, you will be 
homeless in about a month. That is, unless
you try to arm yourself to fight for your
property. Good luck with that. LoL!



[FairfieldLife] Zombie in My Gas Tank-Interview 8 (was Paultards: Ron Paul is a Racist)

2011-08-20 Thread Bob Price






thomas.p...@gmail.com



snip

One of the many reasons Maharishi pulled everyone except the people who believe 
they are one of them (like a guitarist?) out of DC.


 So true.   Take a look at any of them.  Children they are not.  Addled, yes.  
Comes from fetal alcohol or crack syndromes.

 
Indeed.  It used to be that it was legal to mention someone's race in a 
newspaper.   We had to guess, but not very hard, who was rioting in England.


 

Racism is defined  for the current time as calling a spade a spade. 




We’re pleased to have Roberta Costa (former Homeland Security agent) 
as our visiting interviewer of today’s awakened guest: Cracker JR McBain.

AGENT COSTA

Welcome Mr. McBain, its a real pleasure to have you here today, 
may I call you Cracker?


JR
“Most people call me JR.

AGENT COSTA

“Sorry JR, please tell us a little about yourself.”


JR
My name is JR. My fathers name was Cracker. I was born over a junk yard in a 
small town called 

A HOPE  A PRAYER in the Illinois Ozarks. My earliest childhood memories 
are of my Arkansas cousins making fun of my family because we weren’t from 
the real Hope---or the real Ozarks for that matter. Both my parents had rage 
management 
problems which they blamed on Walmart for wiping out my Dad’s oil change 
business
when they opened a new store across the street from where we lived. Sam was
alive then and my mother used to hide in the bushes and throw rocks at his
old red pick when he visited his store from time to time. The only taboo 
subjects 
in our home were Walmart, my parents drinking and what a piss poor shot my 
mother was.

The arguing about Walmart got so bad that I eventually ran away and joined the 
circus where I got a job cleaning up after elephants. I was eventually fired 
when an elephant named 
“Crackers” crushed the ring master after I stuffed some fire crackers up his 
butt. My take 
away from all this was that either God loved crackers or he had a better sense 
of humour than my 
parents---or the Walton family for that matter. By this time old Sam had gone 
to the
big discount in the sky and his family would visit the store across the street 
from my parents home 
in their big black stretch limo. The first time she tried, my mom put a rock 
through the chauffeurs 
window and killed him which caused an ugly crash and put my Mom in the hoosegow 
for pretty much
the rest of her life. Her defence lawyer was a lady named Hilary who couldn’t 
organize a bl** job in a brothel 
although that could never be said about her husband.

After the circus I discovered aluminium siding. The first time I sold someone 
more of something than
they could possibly afford I knew I had found my calling. It was about this 
time that Cracker Sr. showed up. 
Mom was gone by then and he wanted to see how I was making so much money. Then 
two things happened. First,
he was a terrible salesman with none my qualifying skills and couldn’t 
understand that letting the lady of house know 
you’re packing was not the way to get them to sign on the line that is 
dotted. The second thing was far worse. For 
some reason everywhere Cracker went a Walmart seemed to open a new 
location within days. It was such an 
phenomena that NOVA did a program on it. Since only San Francisco fruits and 
uppity women watch PBS you never 
catch me tuning in but since it was about Cracker I relented. My passion is 
history particularly the civil war although
I won’t give you spit for that fag documentary from Keener Burnbutt. Shortly 
after Cracker arrived Walmart showed up 
and that was the end of my aluminum siding business.

AGENT COSTA

“Wow and can you tell us a little about your awaking?”

JR
“My first Unity experience came when I merged with the floor
after I big honk of finger nail polish remover. The last thing I remember
was wondering what my friends had been bragging about and the next thing
I knew I was considering myself part of the line of sight of a worn out pattern
on the linoleum of my floor that appeared to be emerging from my nose.”

AGENT COSTA

‘Thats quite a beginning JR, was there anything else you might consider a 
little 
more permanent to your awaking.

JR
“I would say when I lost my right leg in a head on with a logging truck was 
pretty 
permanent.


AGENT COSTA

“OK JR, its been a great to hear about your awaking and thanks for dropping by.”

JR
Wait a minute, I’ve got a lot more to share...” 

AGENT COSTA

Thanks again listeners and please tune in next week for our interview with 
WhyNotMakeItUp. 

JR
“Listen you wet back piece of.

 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Letter in today's Ledger

2011-08-20 Thread richardwillytexwilliams


  Nirodha pariNaama is that transformation of the 
  mind in which it becomes *progressively* permeated 
  by the condition of nirodha...
 
Vaj:
 It's the natural result of the failure to 
 maintain samadhi. Rinse-repeat-rinse-repeat…
 
Cut out the monkish bull-shit. Nirodha just 
means thought-activty cessation - TM practice.

 In introspective samadhis you want to 
 extend the amount of time you can be in 
 samadhi until it becomes permanent, you 
 do not want to create the habitual 
 circumstance that keeps you popping back 
 out!

In fact, it's the poping back out that IS 
the enlighted state.

Normal folks just need is to dip into samadhi 
for a few minutes a day. If you can't maintain 
that, and raise a family, you'll probably wind 
up in a divorce, or an insane asylum.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Letter in today's Ledger

2011-08-20 Thread Vaj

On Aug 20, 2011, at 10:53 AM, richardwillytexwilliams wrote:

   Nirodha pariNaama is that transformation of the 
   mind in which it becomes *progressively* permeated 
   by the condition of nirodha...
  
 Vaj:
  It's the natural result of the failure to 
  maintain samadhi. Rinse-repeat-rinse-repeat…
  
 Cut out the monkish bull-shit. Nirodha just 
 means thought-activty cessation - TM practice.


Saguna-mantras only take you so far Willy. Saguna-mantras stop at 
samprajnata-samadhi.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Managing an attractive young woman with large breasts

2011-08-20 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote:

  From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com
  Just as an aside, Bob, what editor do you use when com-
  posing your posts? I ask because below I have had to
  go through and remove all the instances of  mysterious
  left all over the place, and the ’ symbols used instead
  of single quotes. And that still leaves lots of others.
  This leads me to believe that you might be writing in
  Microsoft Word or some other editor with its defaults
  still left on. I'd consider treating those autoconvert
  options as funbags of shit if I were you. :-)
  Turq, thank you for this. Other than the wife
  there is nothing that returns me to a state 
  of humility as promptly as IT issues. Any help anyone
  can extend me in this regard is more than
  appreciated. I’m not sure whats causing it.
 
 I use web based yahoo mail (newest version)
 my Mac OS X is v. 10.6.7 and I use Safari.
 I will use my personal higher power (google)
 and the words you shared to describe the issue 
 too try and figure out the problem. Since I’m not a pro
 like youself I sometimes save a post to draft---when
 the elbows are acting up---rather than finish it
 in one sitting. 

I may not be able to help, since I rarely use the 
Yahoo mail client, and can't be sure that I have
the latest version. However in mine, under Options
(top right)  Mail Options  General there is a 
Mode option that allows the choice between Compose 
messages and graphics and Compose messages as 
plain text. Mine is set to the latter and no one 
has ever told me that it's leaving odd characters 
in what I send...other than my own, that is. You 
might try that to see if it fixes the problem.

The scrambled single and double quotes I understand;
your editor is creating pretty curved versions of
them that something along the way to the Yahoo FFL
server can't interpret as the upper ASCII characters
they are, and literalize as ’ and the like. But I
really have no idea what is causing the occasional
(and seemingly random) insertion of the  characters.
No clue. Sorry.




Re: [FairfieldLife] The trouble with reality is capitalizing it

2011-08-20 Thread Bob Price





From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 5:25:34 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] The trouble with reality is capitalizing it


  
One of the things I find myself noticing in Curtis' descriptions of
David Eagleman's findings and opinions is that Eagleman seems to make
the same assumption that religious people make. That is, that there is
something called Reality.

This is my take away as well. I find so called scientists easily as dogmatic as 
fundamentalists and rarely as unencumbered with forgone conclusions as they 
might want their constituencies to believe. 



For him, as a scientist (not having read this book), Reality might be
defined as that which can be observed repeatedly by objective viewers or
using instruments invented by them (and thus sharing their human
assumptions about what can be perceived and measured and what cannot).
This objective Reality trumps any subjective notion of reality.

An obvious tell in one of Curtis’s early posts in this series (promise I have 
not re-read it) which described agreeing with someone who “believes” (may have 
been someone who sees dead people) on their shared experience of the “Sunset”. 
As a confirmed doubter, I’m wondering if its any more accurate for a scientist 
to refer to the earth revolving around the sun than it is for a red meat bible 
thumper to do it?

 
Meanwhile, the religionists or spiritual folks might argue that their
subjective experience of reality, especially if they're enlightened,
trumps any objective view of reality. Some of these folks believe that
the real world doesn't even exist, and all that does IS a subjective
presence. They call *that* Reality. Or God. Or Self. Whatever.

If you are saying that since both these dogmas are human they have equal value, 
I agree.


Me, I'm noticing that both sets of people seem to be thinking
hierarchically, as if reality were a pyramid of realities, at the top of
which was one big one called Reality, which supercedes any of the lower
realities.

I agree: “Knowledge is Structured in What I Believe.


I'm not sure I buy this. I'm still enough of a Castaneda fan to be able
to swing behind the idea of separate realities. They're all real. And
because I don't view the world hierarchically, I don't assume that any
of these separate realities are higher than others or trump them.
For me the separate realities coexist relationally, not hierarchically.
None of them is Reality.

Does any of this strike a resonance with anyone else here, or did the
delivery guy put funny mushrooms on my pizza again? You never can tell
here in the Netherlands.

I certainly agree and for me it begs the question: “Why is it so human to 
insist on hierarchy with something that appears so relational?


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is this real? Or has this been happening inside my head?

2011-08-20 Thread RoryGoff
* * Works for me :-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 Curtis' musings about Eagleman's musings about the nature of perception
 vs. reality for some reason reminded me of this line from the last Harry
 Potter movie. (I think at this point I can indulge in spoilers, since
 everyone interested in the HP 'verse has either seen the movie or read
 the book or both by now.) It's a line spoken in the Bardo. Harry is
 dead. Voldemort has smoked his ass REAL good.
 
 While dead, however, Harry's consciousness continues on, and he finds
 himself in an astral train station talking to Dumbledore. Who is
 also...uh...dead. Ignoring their own deadnessitude, the two of them
 manage to have a great conversation anyway, at the end of which Harry,
 about to have to make a decision whether to remain dead or go back to
 his life, asks that question:
 
 Is this real? Or has this been happening inside my head?
 
 Dumbledore replies, Of course it is happening inside your head, Harry,
 but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?
 
 One of the problems I have with the When the brain dies I die theory
 is that I'm not convinced that it's true. I've had experiences that
 convince me that it's not. True, I haven't died in a flatline,
 pushing-up-daisies fashion. But I sure can remember having died. And
 what came afterwards.
 
 One could say that these memories may be false. But, might I ask, what
 leads you to believe that *any* of your memories are true? If the
 brain's ability to lie to itself is so strong, enabling it to distort
 any data coming in to it, aren't *any* of your memories as likely to be
 false as they are to be fact?
 
 For me Dumbledore just nails it. Why can't the answer to Harry's
 question be Both?





[FairfieldLife] Re: Do nothing and accomplish everything.

2011-08-20 Thread RoryGoff
Hi, Jim! Yes, that is exactly what I was trying to express below, only you did 
it better :-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote:

 Hi Judy and Rory, Its a perception thing - I exist as an individual entity 
 with all my wondrous gifts and challenges, surrounded by a seamless fabric of 
 invisible dynamism, of tangible pregnancy, potential and love, like being 
 able to easily breathe underwater again. After so many lifetimes I forgot 
 what the ocean feels like, always there, a liquid fabric of infinite 
 connections to play in, and interact with.
 
 Everything I do is so intrinsically a part of that which surrounds me, so 
 that the bodily entity of me reduces down to virtually nothing, except the 
 same pure expression as that which surrounds me. 
 
 Nothing becomes everything, not by virtue of expanding nothing, but rather, 
 by bringing it into sync with everything else; the self does nothing, and the 
 Self accomplishes everything.
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote:
 
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote:
   
I interpret this as meaning do nothing as the self, and
everything will be accomplished by the Self. In waking
state it makes no sense at all.
   
   FWIW, that's the exact opposite of what MMY meant by
   it, with reference to the Gita. For the enlightened
   person, it's the Self that is the nondoer, and the
   self that acts according to the dictates of the gunas.
  
  * * That was my first thought too, Judy. But then I saw what Jim meant -- 
  when we (small selves) are surrendered to Wholeness (big Self), it appears 
  that Wholeness is running the whole show, and we do nothing. But from the 
  other point of view, as the Gita says, We as wholeness do nothing, and the 
  I-particles, the small selves, do it all. I suspect that no-one actually 
  does anything, big-S or small-s, but it all just gets done (or appears to 
  get done) anyhow. 
  
  Who does a dream, anyway? The dreamer isn't doing anything but watching 
  it unfold, and the dream-characters don't really exist as separate 
  entities, so  they aren't really doing anything, either, though when we are 
  identified with one of the characters, we sure think we are doing something!
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Do nothing and accomplish everything.

2011-08-20 Thread RoryGoff
* * Hi, Lawson. I believe I see where you're coming from here, but it appears 
Jim is speaking of something else. From the POV of a small self lost/found in 
Brahman we could say small self surrendered into Big Self is virtually 
nothing and does nothing of itself -- of myself I do nothing; not I but the 
Father which is in me. And Brahman is not a particular experience you can 
have, whether of UC or anything else. You don't have Brahman; Brahman has 
you! Yum! :-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote:

 Small self surrounded by Big Self is not anything of value. 
 
 CC precedes GC precedes UC. If you think you're having some kind of UC 
 experience when not already in CC (no small self), then you're not having UC.
 
 
 L.
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote:
 
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote:
   
I interpret this as meaning do nothing as the self, and
everything will be accomplished by the Self. In waking
state it makes no sense at all.
   
   FWIW, that's the exact opposite of what MMY meant by
   it, with reference to the Gita. For the enlightened
   person, it's the Self that is the nondoer, and the
   self that acts according to the dictates of the gunas.
  
  * * That was my first thought too, Judy. But then I saw what Jim meant -- 
  when we (small selves) are surrendered to Wholeness (big Self), it appears 
  that Wholeness is running the whole show, and we do nothing. But from the 
  other point of view, as the Gita says, We as wholeness do nothing, and the 
  I-particles, the small selves, do it all. I suspect that no-one actually 
  does anything, big-S or small-s, but it all just gets done (or appears to 
  get done) anyhow. 
  
  Who does a dream, anyway? The dreamer isn't doing anything but watching 
  it unfold, and the dream-characters don't really exist as separate 
  entities, so  they aren't really doing anything, either, though when we are 
  identified with one of the characters, we sure think we are doing something!
 





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Managing an attractive young woman with large breasts

2011-08-20 Thread Bob Price
Thanks Turq, I think I have it figured. On the new Yahoo version the plain text 
option has been moved from “options” to below right of the subject line. After 
Alex suggested it, I was using this option if I wanted to send a hot link. To 
eliminate the garbled quote symbols I’ll switch to using it all the time. Not 
sure about the other symbols you mentioned, maybe Tom can help.

 



From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 8:14:47 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Managing an attractive young woman with large 
breasts



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote:

  From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com
  Just as an aside, Bob, what editor do you use when com-
  posing your posts? I ask because below I have had to
  go through and remove all the instances of  mysterious
  left all over the place, and the ’ symbols used instead
  of single quotes. And that still leaves lots of others.
  This leads me to believe that you might be writing in
  Microsoft Word or some other editor with its defaults
  still left on. I'd consider treating those autoconvert
  options as funbags of shit if I were you. :-)
  Turq, thank you for this. Other than the wife
  there is nothing that returns me to a state 
  of humility as promptly as IT issues. Any help anyone
  can extend me in this regard is more than
  appreciated. I’m not sure whats causing it.
 
 I use web based yahoo mail (newest version)
 my Mac OS X is v. 10.6.7 and I use Safari.
 I will use my personal higher power (google)
 and the words you shared to describe the issue 
 too try and figure out the problem. Since I’m not a pro
 like youself I sometimes save a post to draft---when
 the elbows are acting up---rather than finish it
 in one sitting. 

I may not be able to help, since I rarely use the 
Yahoo mail client, and can't be sure that I have
the latest version. However in mine, under Options
(top right)  Mail Options  General there is a 
Mode option that allows the choice between Compose 
messages and graphics and Compose messages as 
plain text. Mine is set to the latter and no one 
has ever told me that it's leaving odd characters 
in what I send...other than my own, that is. You 
might try that to see if it fixes the problem.

The scrambled single and double quotes I understand;
your editor is creating pretty curved versions of
them that something along the way to the Yahoo FFL
server can't interpret as the upper ASCII characters
they are, and literalize as ’ and the like. But I
really have no idea what is causing the occasional
(and seemingly random) insertion of the  characters.
No clue. Sorry.


   


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Karl Marx was Right

2011-08-20 Thread Bhairitu
On 08/20/2011 07:40 AM, richardwillytexwilliams wrote:

 Why don't you explain to us how you're
 going to feed yourself if the U.S.
 economy collapses?

 Bhairitu:
 I can walk to the local grocery store(s).

 You'll be doing a lot of walking after you
 fail to pay your mortage, if the U.S. economy
 collapses. But, you can forget finding much
 on store shelves if that happens!

 With a collapsed U.S. economy, you will be
 homeless in about a month. That is, unless
 you try to arm yourself to fight for your
 property. Good luck with that. LoL!

Explain to me how I will be homeless if the bank I pay my mortgage to no 
longer exists?



[FairfieldLife] Re: Do nothing and accomplish everything.

2011-08-20 Thread wgm4u


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote:
 
  I interpret this as meaning do nothing as the self, and
  everything will be accomplished by the Self. In waking
  state it makes no sense at all.
 
 FWIW, that's the exact opposite of what MMY meant by
 it, with reference to the Gita. For the enlightened
 person, it's the Self that is the nondoer, and the
 self that acts according to the dictates of the gunas.


Perhaps it's Mother Nature/aka the Gunas, that rally to support your every 
desire because they are in tune with natural law. It's MMY's explanation of the 
support of nature.




[FairfieldLife] Why I love Walmart

2011-08-20 Thread Tom Pall
There was a time before Walmart.  I remember that time, going through jerk
water towns around the US and places not along the railroad and therefore
never capable of being jerk water towns.Fairfield, Iowa was a jerk water
town. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_stop   I am now pretty much
guaranteed almost wherever I go that there will be groceries, batteries,
coffee mugs, mats for the car, all sorts of goodies, all under one roof.
One day I arrived in FF and my luggage did not.  It had gone to Korea.  So I
was able to pick up crappy but acceptable toiletries, flying clothes, some
shirts, pants, socks to tide me over until my luggage arrived a few days
later.   Having to go into the little shops on the square with SALE
emblazoned painted on the windows was something I didn't relish.   Choose
from a dozen shirts, none of which was my size, from a dozen pair of
trousers, no flying clothes except the stuff at the MIU bookstore, well it
was one stop shopping.

I like that I can go to Walmart and stock up on certain things like big
bottles of mouthwash, batteries, staples, get a prescription filled, even
get my oil changed in my car, all at the same time.  Is it Trader Joe's?
Well, perhaps.  I have a freshly picked, organic, right off the vine
tomato from TJs sitting on my kitchen counter.  Still pristine.  And it's
been there for 6 weeks.   Heck, I grew up in the Garden State and tomatoes
where something you bought or picked and ate pronto.  I can buy the same
organic tomato at Walmart.   Morningstar Farms?  Yes, most of the
offerings are available at Walmart, even the no hormone, free range, organic
eggs.   And I don't have to run all over town.  Now Walmart is not the World
Market, which I shop at next or TJ's or some specialty shop.  I feel sorry
that Walmart employees slave labor.   But just how well was my grandmother
who worked in the sweatshop which made the trousers and shirts that went to
that shop on the square in FF paid?  Just how much and what kind of benefits
were the employees of that shop on the square in FF paid?

I find the grossest, most ill-mannered people at the Walmart I go to in
South Carolina, a few miles south of where I am.  But guess what?  Some of
them are oriental geeks who are walking like drunks through the isles
checking their grocery list on their idiot phone.  I've also met some of the
nicest people in other Walmarts throughout the country.  Yes, there are
crackers.  There are also the salt of the Earth.  The people who build
things.  Who work with their hands.  People here on FFL would consider the
great unwashed.  Little do they realize that if it weren't for the great
unwashed who build the roads, the houses, drive the trucks, they'd starve.
They do the World's work.


[FairfieldLife] Re: Do nothing and accomplish everything.

2011-08-20 Thread whynotnow7
It is so intriguing and difficult to capture that space between us and 
everything else, where no clear lines of division exist, and yet in order to 
function in the world such divisions create unfathomable beauty and questions 
and challenges, an utterly chaotic, perfect orderliness.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote:

 Hi, Jim! Yes, that is exactly what I was trying to express below, only you 
 did it better :-)
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote:
 
  Hi Judy and Rory, Its a perception thing - I exist as an individual entity 
  with all my wondrous gifts and challenges, surrounded by a seamless fabric 
  of invisible dynamism, of tangible pregnancy, potential and love, like 
  being able to easily breathe underwater again. After so many lifetimes I 
  forgot what the ocean feels like, always there, a liquid fabric of infinite 
  connections to play in, and interact with.
  
  Everything I do is so intrinsically a part of that which surrounds me, so 
  that the bodily entity of me reduces down to virtually nothing, except the 
  same pure expression as that which surrounds me. 
  
  Nothing becomes everything, not by virtue of expanding nothing, but rather, 
  by bringing it into sync with everything else; the self does nothing, and 
  the Self accomplishes everything.
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote:
  
   
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote:

 I interpret this as meaning do nothing as the self, and
 everything will be accomplished by the Self. In waking
 state it makes no sense at all.

FWIW, that's the exact opposite of what MMY meant by
it, with reference to the Gita. For the enlightened
person, it's the Self that is the nondoer, and the
self that acts according to the dictates of the gunas.
   
   * * That was my first thought too, Judy. But then I saw what Jim meant -- 
   when we (small selves) are surrendered to Wholeness (big Self), it 
   appears that Wholeness is running the whole show, and we do nothing. But 
   from the other point of view, as the Gita says, We as wholeness do 
   nothing, and the I-particles, the small selves, do it all. I suspect that 
   no-one actually does anything, big-S or small-s, but it all just gets 
   done (or appears to get done) anyhow. 
   
   Who does a dream, anyway? The dreamer isn't doing anything but watching 
   it unfold, and the dream-characters don't really exist as separate 
   entities, so  they aren't really doing anything, either, though when we 
   are identified with one of the characters, we sure think we are doing 
   something!
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Do nothing and accomplish everything.

2011-08-20 Thread whynotnow7
Yep, its all about the music.:-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u wgm4u@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote:
  
   I interpret this as meaning do nothing as the self, and
   everything will be accomplished by the Self. In waking
   state it makes no sense at all.
  
  FWIW, that's the exact opposite of what MMY meant by
  it, with reference to the Gita. For the enlightened
  person, it's the Self that is the nondoer, and the
  self that acts according to the dictates of the gunas.
 
 
 Perhaps it's Mother Nature/aka the Gunas, that rally to support your every 
 desire because they are in tune with natural law. It's MMY's explanation of 
 the support of nature.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Letter in today's Ledger

2011-08-20 Thread emptybill
Great to know that the Upanishad Rishi-s
had tri-kala-drishti, a clear view of
the past/present/future.

They were able to read Ralph Waldo Emerson
and understand him (although written in English)
and were suitably inspired to compose their
consequent insights.

Great job, Ralph.

Willy Sez:
All the Upanishad teachers were transcendentalists
and they all agreed with this, with the exception of
the materialist Charvaka.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richardwillytexwilliams
willytex@... wrote:


 It is clearly stated in the scriptures that the Purusha
 is entirley seperate from the Prakriti. All the Upanishad
 teachers were transcendentalists and they all agreed with
 this, with the exception of the materialist Charvaka.

 There is Purusha, which stands alone, eternal and
 unchanghing, and there is Prakriti, governed by three
 gunas, and thirty-two consituents.

 Comprising the whole in one easily comprehended matrix
 of change. The two are totally separate - one being an
 object of knowledge and the other being the witnessing
 subject, the Transcendental Person.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Managing an attractive young woman with large breasts

2011-08-20 Thread richardwillytexwilliams


turquoiseb:
 Ask yourself, What would Shankara do?...

This is nothing more than prejudice against
Hindus. Turq knows there was no Shankara,
and he knows that not all Hindu women have
large breasts. In fact, Turq probably knows
nothing about the Hindus, or Hindu women. 

LoL!



[FairfieldLife] Taste

2011-08-20 Thread Bob Price
I’m wondering if its possible to ever understand 
audience taste. Is it better to write from the headlines
or find a voice and nurture it?

Can the popularity of writing from the headlines 
ever be considered an art form? Certainty satire and
some other forms of comedy about headlines
might be artistic but can expressing an opinion about
current events be any more than gossip?

Of course most of us know politics or plane crashes
are oh so much more sophisticated to write about that say celebrity divorces. 
Reminds 
me a bit of the alcoholic that insists on “Russian Standard”
rather than “Smirnoff”, I don’t gossip because I care about
the politics I write about. I really care about my opinions
so how could it be gossip.

I understand what drives someone to find their voice.
IMO, when successful, finding a voice, appears to have a god like
or immortal quality. On the other hand I find writing about the headlines
a little harder to understand. Have we all become mini me Walter Winchell’s
without any of his talent to create drama from human weakness.

And also wonder how we got here. Since I read it the first time as a kid in the
Sixties I’ve aften wondered what “Soma” in “Brave New World” is. For
a time I was sure it was television which---with the consolidation of
all the important media outlets---I then expanded to all media. Currently 
“Social Media” looks like an excellent candidate, but then how do we fit
“Itunes and ipads and i as the most overused f**king letter in the alphabet.
In many ways it seems just that the Internet will be for us what that meteor
was for the dinosaurs because isn’t it our consciousness
not our physicality (we seem to fear so much for) that makes us different?


I just wonder if finding a voice could save us from ourselves.


[FairfieldLife] Re: Managing an attractive young woman with large breasts

2011-08-20 Thread curtisdeltablues


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote:

 You can thank Curtis for this post.

Yeah, blame the blues guy!  Nice.

It is not just the fun bags giving you trouble.  It is the specific hip to 
waist ratio that plugs into our genetic preferences.  That is what says 
fertility.  The bad news for men is that chicks have a pre-programmed 
shoulder to waist ratio that is highly unforgiving of an over fondness for La 
Querche Prosciutto.  When you lose that wedge look you don't  get that 
automatic head snap from the ladies anymore.  This is why I perform sitting 
down!  I have discovered another formula that seems to be in play.  If a man's 
stomach protrusion is equalled by how far his wallet extends behind him, he can 
still pull the hotties.  This ratio seems to have been instilled later in our 
evolution as a species.

When this chick smiles check out if it reachers her eyes and if they crinkle 
devilishly.  If they don't she is all show and no go in the sack anyway and not 
worth the trouble.  Just file her in the rolodex you use for chicks to think 
about while banging your wife.  (Yeah, I know about that.)


 
 
 
 I’m still interested in techniques that can be employed to better manage 
 
 the uncertainties of perception. The following describes; a situation that 
 recently put me in great perceptual uncertainty---some of the techniques I 
 might have employed to manage the uncertainty, and a request for 
 other posters 
 to share any technique suggestions they might want to post.  
 
 The wife owns her own company and summons me to her 
 office from time to time to consult for her on various commercial 
 activities. 
 Although I know she does this because of my vast experience and overall 
 brilliance,
 she claims it’s to get me away from FFL posting which appears to be 
 causing 
 me tennis elbow (in both arms).
 
 My latest engagement was related to human resource considerations for a new 
 hire 
 and an existing staff member. Specifically, one staff member I was asked to 
 help is 
 an attractive young woman with noticeably large breasts. For background, 
 this woman graduated 
 with honours from Stanford and about 70% of the time she exceeds her 
 managers expectations 
 when executing tasks she has been delegated.  Unfortunately, for the other 
 30% of her time she 
 reverts to a Marilyn persona to distract colleagues from noticing 
 her significant screw ups. Some 
 may know the persona I’m describing---voice becomes childlike and body 
 language screams 
 “save me”. Not to digress, but I’ve often wondered why 
 great Moms teach their daughters to avoid 
 “wolves” but say nothing to their sons about catching the next 
 plane out of town when you run into 
 a damsel in distress. I can’t imagine what I could have saved being on time 
 for that plane.  
 
 In the case of the attractive young woman with large breasts---when I sat 
 down across from her in  
 her cubicle---I believe this in not uncommon with guys in this situation, I 
 employed an uncertainty management
 technique by pretending I wasn’t imagining her naked while she pretended 
 that my thinking was as professional as my behaviour. 
  I would describe my performance as not unlike being on an  MDA drip and 
 pretending its not making me that happy. The end 
 result was not only the normal unreliability of perception, but a mutual 
 non verbal agreement to lie about what was obviously 
 occurring at the time. The results are not only a type of ‘not taking the 
 reality of my perceptions too seriously---what I believe is 
 the essence of uncertainty in perceptions, but also the two of us performing 
 what Brando described to 
 Larry King as: “everyone is an actor its just that some of us get paid 
 better than others for doing it.”
 
 With a desire to be more effective, I’ve considered various techniques that 
 might help this type of
 uncertain perception become more manageable: 
 
 1. Looking at my shoes during the meeting.
 
 2. Looking at her shoes during the meeting (the problem with this option was 
 that it triggered thoughts of her naked with only her shoes on).
 3. Asking her to look at my shoes during the meeting. (God know the legal 
 consequences of this option)
 4. Putting her at ease by talking about Heisenberg’s “uncertainty 
 principal. (I believe she has a science degree)
 5. Employ Herr Edelstein’s technique of putting her at ease with an off 
 colour joke.
 6. Win her over by telling her I know Curtis.
 7. Pretend I’m enlightened.
 8. Tell her I used to know Robin Carson.
 9. Tell her I have a connection in Amsterdam.
 10. Quit the engagement because the wife is obviously trying to set me up.
 
 Any technique suggestions you feel like sharing would be appreciated.
 
 PS: For the new hire, I recommended to the wife that she hire the gay woman 
 she interviewed. 
 She’s by far the best 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why I love Walmart

2011-08-20 Thread Alex Stanley


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@... wrote:

 There was a time before Walmart.  I remember that time, going
 through jerk water towns around the US and places not along the
 railroad and therefore never capable of being jerk water towns.
 Fairfield, Iowa was a jerk water town.


And, before Walmart, Fairfield had a Ben Franklin and a Pamida. It's very 
popular to hate Walmart, but I find Walmart vastly more pleasant than the old 
Ben Franklin and Pamida stores, which IMO, were dingy and depressing. I have no 
objection to FF's Walmart, and I look forward to the new SuperWalmart that they 
just started building a few weeks ago. But, if a Target were to open up in FF, 
Walmart would lose most of my business.



[FairfieldLife] Re: The trouble with reality is capitalizing it

2011-08-20 Thread richardwillytexwilliams


turquoiseb:
 ...as a scientist (not having read this book), 
 Reality might be defined as that which can be 
 observed repeatedly by objective viewers

In reality, we only know anything based on the 
three valid means of knowledge: the senses,
inference, and verbal testimony. 

Most of what we know we were told it, and the 
rest of our knowledge came from our senses, 
mainly our eyes and our ears. There are very
few people on the planet that know anything
aprori, that is, a transcendental knowledge.

Obviously you read about an Ultimate Reality 
in a book, or you were told it by Zen Master 
Rama. Not from an un-reality would you have 
learned this term!

So, what did your guru, Zen Master Rama, say
about the Ultimate Reality? If you forgot what
Rama said, I'll post it here. LoL!



[FairfieldLife] Re: Letter in today's Ledger

2011-08-20 Thread richardwillytexwilliams


emptybill:
 Great to know that the Upanishad Rishi-s
 had tri-kala-drishti, a clear view of
 the past/present/future.
 
 They were able to read Ralph Waldo Emerson
 and understand him (although written in English)
 and were suitably inspired to compose their
 consequent insights.
 
 Great job, Ralph.
 
 Willy Sez:
 All the Upanishad teachers were transcendentalists
 and they all agreed with this, with the exception of
 the materialist Charvaka.
 
Of course, all the teachers of the Upanishads were
transcendentalists. Why do you think they all made
reference to Brahman, the Transcendental Person? 

LoL!



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Managing an attractive young woman with large breasts

2011-08-20 Thread Bob Price




From: curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 9:43:18 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Managing an attractive young woman with large 
breasts





--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote:

 You can thank Curtis for this post.

Yeah, blame the blues guy!  Nice.

***you are definitely one of my favourite posters to be found guilty with. 

It is not just the fun bags giving you trouble.  It is the specific hip to 
waist ratio that plugs into our genetic preferences.  That is what says 
fertility.  The bad news for men is that chicks have a pre-programmed 
shoulder to waist ratio that is highly unforgiving of an over fondness for La 
Querche Prosciutto.  When you lose that wedge look you don't  get that 
automatic head snap from the ladies anymore.  This is why I perform sitting 
down!  I have discovered another formula that seems to be in play.  If a man's 
stomach protrusion is equalled by how far his wallet extends behind him, he can 
still pull the hotties.  This ratio seems to have been instilled later in our 
evolution as a species.

When this chick smiles check out if it reachers her eyes and if they crinkle 
devilishly.  If they don't she is all show and no go in the sack anyway and not 
worth the trouble.  Just file her in the rolodex you use for chicks to think 
about while banging your wife.  (Yeah, I know about that.)

***What you and Turq describe as beauty makes a lot of sense to me, I’ve been 
trying to find the short why to describe it. 

Could it be called the “Golden Ratio?”

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34482178/ns/health-skin_and_beauty/t/ideal-beauty-matter-millimeters-study-says/#.Tk_lKs3hWIA

Its been my cognition that the wallet to waist offset could be described as a 
hyper ratio of 1” of wallet plastic can offset
20” of male waist line. Making 2” of plastic in wallet good for 40” of waist?


 
 
 
 I’m still interested in techniques that can be employed to better manage 
 
 the uncertainties of perception. The following describes; a situation that 
 recently put me in great perceptual uncertainty---some of the techniques I 
 might have employed to manage the uncertainty, and a request for 
 other posters 
 to share any technique suggestions they might want to post.  
 
 The wife owns her own company and summons me to her 
 office from time to time to consult for her on various commercial activities. 
 Although I know she does this because of my vast experience and overall 
 brilliance,
 she claims it’s to get me away from FFL posting which appears to be causing 
 me tennis elbow (in both arms).
 
 My latest engagement was related to human resource considerations for a new 
 hire 
 and an existing staff member. Specifically, one staff member I was asked to 
 help is 
 an attractive young woman with noticeably large breasts. For background, this 
 woman graduated 
 with honours from Stanford and about 70% of the time she exceeds her managers 
 expectations 
 when executing tasks she has been delegated.  Unfortunately, for the other 
 30% of her time she 
 reverts to a Marilyn persona to distract colleagues from noticing 
 her significant screw ups. Some 
 may know the persona I’m describing---voice becomes childlike and body 
 language screams 
 “save me”. Not to digress, but I’ve often wondered why great Moms teach their 
 daughters to avoid 
 “wolves” but say nothing to their sons about catching the next plane out of 
 town when you run into 
 a damsel in distress. I can’t imagine what I could have saved being on time 
 for that plane.  
 
 In the case of the attractive young woman with large breasts---when I sat 
 down across from her in  
 her cubicle---I believe this in not uncommon with guys in this situation, I 
 employed an uncertainty management
 technique by pretending I wasn’t imagining her naked while she pretended that 
 my thinking was as professional as my behaviour. 
  I would describe my performance as not unlike being on an  MDA drip and 
 pretending its not making me that happy. The end 
 result was not only the normal unreliability of perception, but a mutual non 
 verbal agreement to lie about what was obviously 
 occurring at the time. The results are not only a type of ‘not taking the 
 reality of my perceptions too seriously---what I believe is 
 the essence of uncertainty in perceptions, but also the two of us performing 
 what Brando described to 
 Larry King as: “everyone is an actor its just that some of us get paid better 
 than others for doing it.”
 
 With a desire to be more effective, I’ve considered various techniques that 
 might help this type of
 uncertain perception become more manageable: 
 
 1. Looking at my shoes during the meeting.
 
 2. Looking at her shoes during the meeting (the problem with this option was 
 that it triggered thoughts of her naked with only her shoes on).
 3. Asking her to look at my shoes 

[FairfieldLife] The Conspirator was okay

2011-08-20 Thread Bhairitu
Robert Redford's The Conspirator was worth a look.  But there are a 
few problems I would point out.   Poor Justin Long, in the opening scene 
when James McAvoy tells his joke I expected Long to sit up and say I'm 
a Mac and McAvoy to retort and I'm a PC for the punchline.  Long will 
probably be most remember for the rest of his life for those ads.  But 
it touches on a problem that Hollywood has when they do historical 
films: famous actors take you out of the story.  Well maybe except for 
Robin Wright who can change her looks enough and get into the part 
enough you forget who she is.  There are a few actors like like that but 
often it's hey, that's so and so playing so and so.

Problem two: despite his work with Sundance Redford still seems to be 
stuck in old production ways.  I'm probably a bit sensitive here but the 
dialog scenes between two actors in the film seemed a little stilted.  
Why?  Because undoubtedly Redford used only one camera to shoot them.  
These days directors like to take advantage of technology and use two 
cameras: an A and B camera to shoot dialog scenes.  It's more natural, 
efficient as the actors play out the scene at the same time.  Redford 
seems to like film and film is too expensive to do that.

Problem three: despite the nice depiction of the era it seemed a little 
dusty to me.  More like I was visiting a museum of that era which I 
have, many times taking relatives to visit the museum near my hometown.  
It should have looked a little more like Deadwood which didn't look so 
dusty.  Back then that stuff would have looked shiny and new though 
dated by our standards.

The story is important though because it is about the prosecution of 
Mary Surratt which though she was a civilian was done by a military 
tribunal.  A few years later the Supreme Court declared that in war 
civilians still should have a jury trial.

The Bluray is loaded with extras and much more than I could watch in an 
evening.  However the 67 minute documentary kept beating me over the 
head that the Civil War was about slavery when it was more to do with 
state's rights (and of course at issue was slavery and states rights).  
It also doesn't touch at all about the British supporting the South.  It 
was still to much of a whitewash grade school approach instead of a 
Howard Zinn one.

I would also recommend Scorcese's Gangs of New York to get a better 
sense of the era and particularly listen to his commentary.

Also on the disc was an interesting trailer for Margin Call, a 
thriller that revolves around the key people at a investment bank over a 
24-hour period during the early stages of the financial crisis.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2DqFRsPrns

Looks like it might be good.




[FairfieldLife] Re: The trouble with reality is capitalizing it

2011-08-20 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 One of the things I find myself noticing in Curtis' descriptions of
 David Eagleman's findings and opinions is that Eagleman seems to make
 the same assumption that religious people make. That is, that there is
 something called Reality.

I don't think that doing science requires more assumption than needed to fix 
breakfast and sit down at the computer.  Both religious assumptions and the 
kind of high level philosophical skepticism about the nature or reality are on 
another level and don't intersect.

He hasn't tipped his hand about your perspective and could easily have it and 
still do science.  He has tipped his hand about his skepticism that the 
assumptions of religious beliefs are coming from a place that he takes 
seriously.  









 
 For him, as a scientist (not having read this book), Reality might be
 defined as that which can be observed repeatedly by objective viewers or
 using instruments invented by them (and thus sharing their human
 assumptions about what can be perceived and measured and what cannot).
 This objective Reality trumps any subjective notion of reality.
 
 Meanwhile, the religionists or spiritual folks might argue that their
 subjective experience of reality, especially if they're enlightened,
 trumps any objective view of reality. Some of these folks believe that
 the real world doesn't even exist, and all that does IS a subjective
 presence. They call *that* Reality. Or God. Or Self. Whatever.
 
 Me, I'm noticing that both sets of people seem to be thinking
 hierarchically, as if reality were a pyramid of realities, at the top of
 which was one big one called Reality, which supercedes any of the lower
 realities.
 
 I'm not sure I buy this. I'm still enough of a Castaneda fan to be able
 to swing behind the idea of separate realities. They're all real. And
 because I don't view the world hierarchically, I don't assume that any
 of these separate realities are higher than others or trump them.
 For me the separate realities coexist relationally, not hierarchically.
 None of them is Reality.
 
 Does any of this strike a resonance with anyone else here, or did the
 delivery guy put funny mushrooms on my pizza again? You never can tell
 here in the Netherlands.





[FairfieldLife] Yes, But the Rich Are Different…

2011-08-20 Thread do.rflex

Yes, But the Rich Are Different…
http://www.balloon-juice.com/2011/08/20/yes-but-the-rich-are-different/\

by Anne Laurie

Earlier this week, the Guardian reprinted a piece by Naomi Shock 
Doctrine
http://www.amazon.com/Shock-Doctrine-Rise-Disaster-Capitalism/dp/031242\
7999/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8qid=1313830442sr=8-1  Klein on
Looting  with the Lights On
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/aug/17/looing-with-lights-\
off :


 ... Argentina, circa 2001. The economy was in freefall and
 thousands of people living in rough neighbourhoods (which had been
 thriving manufacturing zones before the neoliberal era) stormed
 foreign-owned superstores. They came out pushing shopping carts
 overflowing with the goods they could no longer afford –
clothes,
 electronics, meat.

 The government called a state of siege to restore order;
the
 people didn't like that and overthrew the government.

 Argentina's mass looting was called el saqueo – the sacking.

 That was politically significant because it was the very same word
 used to describe what that country's elites had done by selling
off
 the country's national assets in flagrantly corrupt
privatisation
 deals, hiding their money offshore, then passing on the bill to the
 people with a brutal austerity package.

 Argentines understood that the saqueo of the shopping centres would
 not have happened without the bigger saqueo of the country, and
 that the real gangsters were the ones in charge.

 But England is not Latin America, and its riots are not political,
 or so we keep hearing. They are just about lawless kids taking
 advantage of a situation to take what isn't theirs. And British
 society, Cameron tells us, abhors that kind of behaviour.

 This is said in all seriousness. As if the massive bank bailouts
 never happened, followed by the defiant record bonuses. Followed by
 the emergency G8 and G20 meetings, when the leaders decided,
 collectively, not to do anything to punish the bankers for any of
 this, nor to do anything serious to prevent a similar crisis from
 happening again.

 Instead they would all go home to their respective countries and
 force sacrifices on the most vulnerable.

 They would do this by firing public sector workers, scapegoating
 teachers, closing libraries, upping tuition fees, rolling back
 union contracts, creating rush privatisations of public assets and
 decreasing pensions – mix the cocktail for where you live.

 And who is on television lecturing about the need to give up these
 entitlements? The bankers and hedge-fund managers, of
course.

 This is the global saqueo, a time of great taking. Fuelled by a
 pathological sense of entitlement, this looting has all been done
 with the lights on, as if there was nothing at all to hide.

 There are some nagging fears, however. In early July, the Wall
 Street Journal, citing a new poll, reported that 94% of
 millionaires were afraid of violence in the streets. This,
it
 turns out, was a reasonable fear…

Until I skimmed the Guardian comments, I hadn't realized  that the
Bullingdon  Club http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullingdon_Club  was
still in existence… or that Prime Minister Cameron and  London Mayor
Boris Johnson had been BC members during their youth.  They were 
careless people http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/The_Great_Gatsby ...

http://www.balloon-juice.com/2011/08/20/yes-but-the-rich-are-different/
http://www.balloon-juice.com/2011/08/20/yes-but-the-rich-are-different/\








Re: [FairfieldLife] Why I love Walmart

2011-08-20 Thread Bob Price
I also love Walmart because its truly American. Costco on the other hand looks 
like what the communists promised but failed to deliver. And I love Target 
because it helps us pretend we still have a middle class. I also agree that 
Walmart has proven that “Unionization” was an aberration in the American dream 
and its time for some rapper (say Python head) to do a remake of 16 TONS”

“Saint Peter don’t you call me---cause I can’t goI owe my soul to the 
company store.” 

One of the many other things I love about Walmart is that i love variety and 
Walmart is the first thing I’ve seen Tom and Alex agree on. And of course how 
could we owe the Chinese trillions without Walmart functioning as a conduit 
from those Chinese sweatshops to my garage. With Walmart’s help American is now 
in that position of strength that states: “When I owe my banker a million I’m 
in trouble, when I owe him a trillion he’s in trouble.” 

I’m looking forward to Walmart turning the airports into Super Stores because 
when the wife gets molested by airport security I would much prefer the double 
wide
inspector is wearing a smily faces

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIfu2A0ezq0



From: Tom Pall thomas.p...@gmail.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 9:28:28 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Why I love Walmart



There was a time before Walmart.  I remember that time, going through jerk 
water towns around the US and places not along the railroad and therefore never 
capable of being jerk water towns.    Fairfield, Iowa was a jerk water town. 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_stop   I am now pretty much guaranteed 
almost wherever I go that there will be groceries, batteries, coffee mugs, mats 
for the car, all sorts of goodies, all under one roof.   One day I arrived in 
FF and my luggage did not.  It had gone to Korea.  So I was able to pick up 
crappy but acceptable toiletries, flying clothes, some shirts, pants, socks to 
tide me over until my luggage arrived a few days later.   Having to go into the 
little shops on the square with SALE emblazoned painted on the windows was 
something I didn't relish.   Choose from a dozen shirts, none of which was my 
size, from a dozen pair of trousers, no flying clothes except the stuff at the 
MIU bookstore, well it
 was one stop shopping.

I like that I can go to Walmart and stock up on certain things like big bottles 
of mouthwash, batteries, staples, get a prescription filled, even get my oil 
changed in my car, all at the same time.  Is it Trader Joe's?  Well, perhaps.  
I have a freshly picked, organic, right off the vine tomato from TJs sitting 
on my kitchen counter.  Still pristine.  And it's been there for 6 weeks.   
Heck, I grew up in the Garden State and tomatoes where something you bought or 
picked and ate pronto.  I can buy the same organic tomato at Walmart.   
Morningstar Farms?  Yes, most of the offerings are available at Walmart, even 
the no hormone, free range, organic eggs.   And I don't have to run all over 
town.  Now Walmart is not the World Market, which I shop at next or TJ's or 
some specialty shop.  I feel sorry that Walmart employees slave labor.   But 
just how well was my grandmother who worked in the sweatshop which made the 
trousers and shirts
 that went to that shop on the square in FF paid?  Just how much and what kind 
of benefits were the employees of that shop on the square in FF paid?

I find the grossest, most ill-mannered people at the Walmart I go to in South 
Carolina, a few miles south of where I am.  But guess what?  Some of them are 
oriental geeks who are walking like drunks through the isles checking their 
grocery list on their idiot phone.  I've also met some of the nicest people in 
other Walmarts throughout the country.  Yes, there are crackers.  There are 
also the salt of the Earth.  The people who build things.  Who work with their 
hands.  People here on FFL would consider the great unwashed.  Little do they 
realize that if it weren't for the great unwashed who build the roads, the 
houses, drive the trucks, they'd starve.   They do the World's work.   

    


Re: [FairfieldLife] Yes, But the Rich Are Different…

2011-08-20 Thread Tom Pall
On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 1:15 PM, do.rflex do.rf...@yahoo.com wrote:

Read a little history.  Read about the entitlement the trade unions felt
after the war in England.  How there was class hatred, basically from the
trade unionists who felt they were being ripped off.   Actually, they were
being made redundant because what they produced, like coal, didn't count
that much anymore.   So the trade unions got what they wanted.  England went
socialist.And depressed.  Very depressed. As state before, the problem
with socialism is eventually you run out of people to rob to support the
self-proclaimed entitled class.  It was only until the Iron Lady started to
set things right did some these people on the virtual dole start to realize
that being productive leads to a successful, prosperous life.   Now we're
back to the dole.  Generations since WWII on the dole.  No hope except to be
badasses. You want to talk trash?  There's no cracker in America as trashy
in outlook and being self-defeating as these badasses, male and female.
Why is England the state under the most surveillance?Go visit and find
out quickly enough.  It's not the G20, the G10, the G8.   It's lack of
opportunity and an a whole lot of people so long on the dole they can't
envision a better life for themselves, not even  by the joys of holding down
even a part time job.   So it's the rich, the bankers, eh?   Yeah, there's
ever a reason why it's his fault and not mine.

We're seeing West Side Story recast as North End Story.


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: -Golden Domes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

2011-08-20 Thread Denise Evans
Group practice of the TM-Sidhi program in the domes is said to create the 
Maharishi Effect, which is believed to be a coherence-producing field whose 
extent depends on the number of people practicing in one place.
Perhaps it should saywhich is a belief that practitioners experience and 
know as a coherence-producing field..
If it is one's experience, than one knows it..hard to argue with individual 
knowingness.  I have not experienced it and do not know it.

--- On Sat, 8/20/11, Buck dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote:

From: Buck dhamiltony...@yahoo.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: -Golden Domes -   Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, August 20, 2011, 5:30 AM















 
 



  



  
  
  Dear Wiki Editors,  

Om no, no.  I have one complaint with this 'Golden Dome' Wiki entry.  That 
second paragraph.  As meditators we don't just believe this, we know that. 

Know it by experience.  You're cheapening the overall Meissner Effect of 
spirituality going on here

by declaring it as just some doctrine of belief that we believe in.  It's what 
we know by virtue of meditating.  It's Not just some 'belief'.  There is a 
difference.  Knowingness.  I know.  We know.  It is.  The science is even 
showing it.  It is known.  It's our experience.



Please fix your 'Golden_Domes' entry to better represent the Truth.

 

Yours in the M.E. of Fairfield, Iowa

-Buck

a meditator  



   FFL lurker finishes very informative page on the domes:

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Domes 





http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meissner_effect 



 Couple weeks ago I was at a State-wide meeting attended by mostly urban 
 educated Iowa folks who when they saw Fairfield along with my name on my 
 name-tag would ask about Fairfield.  What I found really interesting now 
 was how many folks living in Iowa really know nothing or extremely little 
 about TM or what is going on here in Fairfield.  If they knew anything most 
 of people were not aware that Maharishi had passed away.  Fairfield just was 
 not in their consciousness.  This wiki 'Golden-Dome' piece will work great 
 for folks who are more than casually interested.  I can think of quite a few 
 regular people out in the State who would appreciate the article.

 

 

 

  I love the line that says it smells like feet inside!

  

  

  

   Incredible research.  This serves as a great condensed narrative. I like 
   the voice in it.  I'd share this with anyone wondering about the utopian 
   story here in Fairfield.

   



   

   

   

Wow. Awesome project.  Seems balanced, evidently well referenced and 
fact checked.



FFL lurker finishes very informative page on the domes: 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Domes 





http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Domes

   

  

 








 





 



  










[FairfieldLife] Re: The trouble with reality is capitalizing it

2011-08-20 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
 
  One of the things I find myself noticing in Curtis'
  descriptions of David Eagleman's findings and opinions
  is that Eagleman seems to make the same assumption
  that religious people make. That is, that there is
  something called Reality.
 
 I don't think that doing science requires more assumption
 than needed to fix breakfast and sit down at the computer.
 Both religious assumptions and the kind of high level
 philosophical skepticism about the nature or reality are
 on another level and don't intersect.

It's not high-level philosophical skepticism but a
truism to note that, even assuming there is a reality,
we can never know it directly; it's always only
through subjective perception. And that includes
science. When we do science, we're comparing
subjective perceptions. If they agree, we say that
what we've mutually perceived is objective reality--
but we don't and cannot know that there's anything
out there that actually corresponds to it.




[FairfieldLife] Re: The trouble with reality is capitalizing it

2011-08-20 Thread wgm4u


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
  
   One of the things I find myself noticing in Curtis'
   descriptions of David Eagleman's findings and opinions
   is that Eagleman seems to make the same assumption
   that religious people make. That is, that there is
   something called Reality.
  
  I don't think that doing science requires more assumption
  than needed to fix breakfast and sit down at the computer.
  Both religious assumptions and the kind of high level
  philosophical skepticism about the nature or reality are
  on another level and don't intersect.
 
 It's not high-level philosophical skepticism but a
 truism to note that, even assuming there is a reality,
 we can never know it directly; it's always only
 through subjective perception. And that includes
 science. When we do science, we're comparing
 subjective perceptions. If they agree, we say that
 what we've mutually perceived is objective reality--
 but we don't and cannot know that there's anything
 out there that actually corresponds to it.

Only YOU can prove reality to yourself, NEVER to anyone else. Since it is a 
subjective experience it rests upon the individual to seize it. Any objective 
analysis will always fall short of the experience, as you may well know




[FairfieldLife] Re: Managing an attractive young woman with large breasts

2011-08-20 Thread John
Chant the mahamantra while you're with her.  She'll stay away from you for sure.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote:

 You can thank Curtis for this post.
 
 
 
 I’m still interested in techniques that can be employed to better manage 
 
 the uncertainties of perception. The following describes; a situation that 
 recently put me in great perceptual uncertainty---some of the techniques I 
 might have employed to manage the uncertainty, and a request for 
 other posters 
 to share any technique suggestions they might want to post.  
 
 The wife owns her own company and summons me to her 
 office from time to time to consult for her on various commercial 
 activities. 
 Although I know she does this because of my vast experience and overall 
 brilliance,
 she claims it’s to get me away from FFL posting which appears to be 
 causing 
 me tennis elbow (in both arms).
 
 My latest engagement was related to human resource considerations for a new 
 hire 
 and an existing staff member. Specifically, one staff member I was asked to 
 help is 
 an attractive young woman with noticeably large breasts. For background, 
 this woman graduated 
 with honours from Stanford and about 70% of the time she exceeds her 
 managers expectations 
 when executing tasks she has been delegated.  Unfortunately, for the other 
 30% of her time she 
 reverts to a Marilyn persona to distract colleagues from noticing 
 her significant screw ups. Some 
 may know the persona I’m describing---voice becomes childlike and body 
 language screams 
 “save me”. Not to digress, but I’ve often wondered why 
 great Moms teach their daughters to avoid 
 “wolves” but say nothing to their sons about catching the next 
 plane out of town when you run into 
 a damsel in distress. I can’t imagine what I could have saved being on time 
 for that plane.  
 
 In the case of the attractive young woman with large breasts---when I sat 
 down across from her in  
 her cubicle---I believe this in not uncommon with guys in this situation, I 
 employed an uncertainty management
 technique by pretending I wasn’t imagining her naked while she pretended 
 that my thinking was as professional as my behaviour. 
  I would describe my performance as not unlike being on an  MDA drip and 
 pretending its not making me that happy. The end 
 result was not only the normal unreliability of perception, but a mutual 
 non verbal agreement to lie about what was obviously 
 occurring at the time. The results are not only a type of ‘not taking the 
 reality of my perceptions too seriously---what I believe is 
 the essence of uncertainty in perceptions, but also the two of us performing 
 what Brando described to 
 Larry King as: “everyone is an actor its just that some of us get paid 
 better than others for doing it.”
 
 With a desire to be more effective, I’ve considered various techniques that 
 might help this type of
 uncertain perception become more manageable: 
 
 1. Looking at my shoes during the meeting.
 
 2. Looking at her shoes during the meeting (the problem with this option was 
 that it triggered thoughts of her naked with only her shoes on).
 3. Asking her to look at my shoes during the meeting. (God know the legal 
 consequences of this option)
 4. Putting her at ease by talking about Heisenberg’s “uncertainty 
 principal. (I believe she has a science degree)
 5. Employ Herr Edelstein’s technique of putting her at ease with an off 
 colour joke.
 6. Win her over by telling her I know Curtis.
 7. Pretend I’m enlightened.
 8. Tell her I used to know Robin Carson.
 9. Tell her I have a connection in Amsterdam.
 10. Quit the engagement because the wife is obviously trying to set me up.
 
 Any technique suggestions you feel like sharing would be appreciated.
 
 PS: For the new hire, I recommended to the wife that she hire the gay woman 
 she interviewed. 
 She’s by far the best candidate. When I welcomed her to the company she 
 gave me firm handshake
 and the pain from my tennis elbow that shot up my arm almost put me in 
 Samadhi. 
 Obviously tennis elbow is no reason to give up FFL.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Managing an attractive young woman with large breasts

2011-08-20 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote:

 Thanks Turq, I think I have it figured.

Nope, at least not as viewed on the Web site:

 On the new Yahoo version the plain text option has been
 moved from “options”

--and--

 garbled quote symbols I’ll

And here's how a paragraph from another of your posts
appeared on the Web site:

-
Of course most of us know politics or plane crashes
are oh so much more sophisticated to write about that say celebrity divorces.
Reminds 
me a bit of the alcoholic that insists on “Russian Standard”
rather than “Smirnoff”, I don’t gossip because I care about
the politics I write about. I really care about my opinions
so how could it be gossip.
-

Here's how a paragraph from yet another of your posts
looks on the Web site--you're quoting Curtis:

-
It is not just the fun bags giving you trouble.  It is the specific hip to
waist ratio that plugs into our genetic preferences.  That is what says
fertility.  The bad news for men is that chicks have a pre-programmed
shoulder to waist ratio that is highly unforgiving of an over fondness for La
Querche Prosciutto.  When you lose that wedge look you don't  get that
automatic head snap from the ladies anymore.  This is why I perform sitting
down!  I have discovered another formula that seems to be in play.  If a
man's stomach protrusion is equalled by how far his wallet extends behind him,
he can still pull the hotties.  This ratio seems to have been instilled later
in our evolution as a species.
-

Another annoyance is the header information that gets
put into many people's posts (including this one from
you):


From: curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 9:43:18 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Managing an attractive young woman with large
breasts

The annoyance is that it takes up the entire Message View
snippet of text from the post.

Also, posts that have this header don't have quote prefixes
except (sometimes) one at the beginning of the paragraph
instead of one in front of every line. The workarounds
(e.g., Response:) that these posters insert manually to
distinguish what they've written from what they're quoting 
become a pain in the neck in exchanges that continue for
several rounds. Combine that with broken lines when folks
use word wrap, and these conversations can be almost
impossible to read. When I want to contribute something,
I may end up spending more time reformatting what I'm
responding to so it's readable than actually writing.

One good thing about your new approach, Bob, is that the
type size is large enough that I don't have to squint.
But the garbage characters are really maddening. Not only
is it hard to read past them, they disrupt the continuity
of the writing.




Re: [FairfieldLife] Hitopadesha: can women ever be won over?

2011-08-20 Thread Denise Evans
And men are?

--- On Mon, 8/15/11, cardemaister no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:

From: cardemaister no_re...@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Hitopadesha: can women ever be won over?
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, August 15, 2011, 11:53 PM















 
 



  



  
  
  

na daanena, na maanena,

naarjavena (na + aarjavena), na sevayaa,

na shastrena, na shaastrena -- 

sarvathaa viSamaaH striyaH.



Neither with gifts (daanena) nor with respect (maanena), 

neither with sincerity (aarjavena) nor with flattery (sevayaa),

neither with weapons (shastrena) nor

with knowledge (shaastrena) can women (striyaH)

ever be won over [seems like a bit eupheministic translation...] 



Women are viSama-s:



viSama  mf(%{A})n. (fr. %{vi} + %{sama}) uneven , rugged , rough MBh. Hariv. 
Ka1v. c. ; unequal , irregular , dissimilar , different , inconstant Br. 
S3a1n3khGr2. Mn. c. ; odd , not even (in numbers c.) Var. Ka1vya7d. ; that 
which cannot be equally divided (as a living sheep among three or four persons) 
Mn. ix , 119 ; hard to traverse , difficult , inconvenient , painful , 
dangerous , adverse , vexatious , disagreeable , terrible , bad , wicked (ibc. 
` terribly ' S3is3.) Mn. MBh. c. ; hard to be understood Gol. Ka1v. ; 
unsuitable , wrong Sus3r. Sarvad. ; unfair , dishonest , partial Mn. MBh. ; 
rough , coarse , rude , cross MW. ; odd , unusual , unequalled 






 





 



  










[FairfieldLife] The Tea Party’s March of Folly: Idiocracy, Here We Come

2011-08-20 Thread do.rflex

The Tea Party's March of Folly: Idiocracy, Here We Come

Jon Ponder | Aug. 19, 2011

And it was no accident
that Republican fatcat operatives
recognized these dumbasses
as suckers whom they could
easily dupe into believing
that it was the government,
not big business,
that caused the financial collapse in 2008;
that tax cuts create jobs;
that corporations are people;
and on and on —

or that a mild-mannered
DLC centrist Democratic president
who happens to be black
is actually a terrifying Kenyan
anti-colonialist Marxist
Muslim Nazi fascist illegal alien

Maybe it's naive to think that ideological opponents can be
brought together by a common fear of mass stupidity: Call
it idiocraphobia.


-- In her Los Angeles Times column on Thursday, Meghan Daum made note of
the rise references in political commentary to the movie Idiocracy, a 
2006 burp-and-fart, sci-fi political comedy set 500 years in the future,
written and directed by Mike Judge, the creator of the animated series 
Beavis and Butthead and King of the Hill:

 References to the film seem to be everywhere, and not just in
 op-eds penned by cranky columnists... The latest issue of the
 Economist has an article about the business-sabotaging effects of
 the battles in Washington, headlined American Idiocracy.

 A recent blog post on the Psychology Today website was headlined
 Idiocracy: Can We Reverse It? Meanwhile, it's popping up in
 causal conversations, Internet comments and, most notably, on
 Twitter, where it often appears as a hashtagged topic…

Daum suggests that the movie has been given a second life...


Watch 'Idiocracy' Trailer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=clYwX8Z43zg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=clYwX8Z43zg


Daum's hope is that interest in Idiocracy and the shock
of recognition of that society is being driven toward the future
it predicts will give pause to partisans on both sides and bring
them to their senses.

Maybe it's naive, she writes, to think that ideological
opponents can be brought together by a common fear of mass
stupidity: Call it idiocraphobia.

But, see, the problem here is not naivete. The problem with
this analysis is a reflexive reliance among media types on
the equivalency meme: both sides are equally guilty, equally
bad. A pox on both your houses...

It wasn't Congress that behaved like stubborn toddlers. It
wasn't Democratic leaders Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid and
their caucuses who seized control of the debt-ceiling debate and
drove the United States' full faith and credit toward the brink
of default.

Objectively, this stubborn behavior was only found among one
discrete faction: The radical know-nothing tea partyists.

There is no equivalency between any group on the left or in the
middle and the tea party.

No one else is so pliably dim-witted, so unmoored from reality
that they take it as faith that Jesus rode dinosaurs and the earth
is just 7,000 years old.

Based on the flimsiest tissues of obvious bogus-ness, they
convinced themselves that Pres. Obama, a mild-mannered DLC
centrist Democrat is in reality a terrifying Kenyan anti-
colonialist Marxist Muslim Nazi fascist illegal alien.

It is not surprising that Republican fatcat operatives have had
no trouble duping the tea partyists into believing that, for
example, it was the government, not big business, that caused
the financial collapse in 2008. That tax cuts create jobs,
and corporations are people.

It is these people, the tea partyists — not Democrats,
liberals, independents or even moderate Republicans — who are
the idiocrats among us...

Continue reading here:
http://www.pensitoreview.com/2011/08/19/tea-partys-march-of-folly-idiocr\
acy-here-we-come/
http://www.pensitoreview.com/2011/08/19/tea-partys-march-of-folly-idioc\
racy-here-we-come/







Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Managing an attractive young woman with large breasts

2011-08-20 Thread Denise Evans
Perhaps you can satiate your brain by boning up on some of Yifu's latest posts 
of mermaids.

--- On Sat, 8/20/11, John jr_...@yahoo.com wrote:

From: John jr_...@yahoo.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Managing an attractive young woman with large 
breasts
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, August 20, 2011, 11:15 AM















 
 



  



  
  
  Chant the mahamantra while you're with her.  She'll stay away from you 
for sure.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote:



 You can thank Curtis for this post.

 

 

 

 I’m still interested in techniques that can be employed to better manage 

 

 the uncertainties of perception. The following describes; a situation that 

 recently put me in great perceptual uncertainty---some of the techniques I 

 might have employed to manage the uncertainty, and a request for 
 other posters 

 to share any technique suggestions they might want to post.  

 

 The wife owns her own company and summons me to her 

 office from time to time to consult for her on various commercial activities. 

 Although I know she does this because of my vast experience and overall 
 brilliance,

 she claims it’s to get me away from FFL posting which appears to be causing 

 me tennis elbow (in both arms).

 

 My latest engagement was related to human resource considerations for a new 
 hire 

 and an existing staff member. Specifically, one staff member I was asked to 
 help is 

 an attractive young woman with noticeably large breasts. For background, this 
 woman graduated 

 with honours from Stanford and about 70% of the time she exceeds her managers 
 expectations 

 when executing tasks she has been delegated.  Unfortunately, for the other 
 30% of her time she 

 reverts to a Marilyn persona to distract colleagues from noticing 
 her significant screw ups. Some 

 may know the persona I’m describing---voice becomes childlike and body 
 language screams 

 “save me”. Not to digress, but I’ve often wondered why great Moms teach their 
 daughters to avoid 

 “wolves” but say nothing to their sons about catching the next plane out of 
 town when you run into 

 a damsel in distress. I can’t imagine what I could have saved being on time 
 for that plane.  

 

 In the case of the attractive young woman with large breasts---when I sat 
 down across from her in  

 her cubicle---I believe this in not uncommon with guys in this situation, I 
 employed an uncertainty management

 technique by pretending I wasn’t imagining her naked while she pretended that 
 my thinking was as professional as my behaviour. 

  I would describe my performance as not unlike being on an  MDA drip and 
 pretending its not making me that happy. The end 

 result was not only the normal unreliability of perception, but a mutual non 
 verbal agreement to lie about what was obviously 

 occurring at the time. The results are not only a type of ‘not taking the 
 reality of my perceptions too seriously---what I believe is 

 the essence of uncertainty in perceptions, but also the two of us performing 
 what Brando described to 

 Larry King as: “everyone is an actor its just that some of us get paid better 
 than others for doing it.”

 

 With a desire to be more effective, I’ve considered various techniques that 
 might help this type of

 uncertain perception become more manageable: 

 

 1. Looking at my shoes during the meeting.

 

 2. Looking at her shoes during the meeting (the problem with this option was 
 that it triggered thoughts of her naked with only her shoes on).

 3. Asking her to look at my shoes during the meeting. (God know the legal 
 consequences of this option)

 4. Putting her at ease by talking about Heisenberg’s “uncertainty principal. 
 (I believe she has a science degree)

 5. Employ Herr Edelstein’s technique of putting her at ease with an off 
 colour joke.

 6. Win her over by telling her I know Curtis.

 7. Pretend I’m enlightened.

 8. Tell her I used to know Robin Carson.

 9. Tell her I have a connection in Amsterdam.

 10. Quit the engagement because the wife is obviously trying to set me up.

 

 Any technique suggestions you feel like sharing would be appreciated.

 

 PS: For the new hire, I recommended to the wife that she hire the gay woman 
 she interviewed. 

 She’s by far the best candidate. When I welcomed her to the company she gave 
 me firm handshake

 and the pain from my tennis elbow that shot up my arm almost put me in 
 Samadhi. 

 Obviously tennis elbow is no reason to give up FFL.








 





 



  










[FairfieldLife] Teabaggers more disliked than Muslims, atheists

2011-08-20 Thread do.rflex

Teabaggers more disliked than Muslims, atheists   by  John Aravosis (DC)
on 8/17/2011 10:45:00 AM
http://www.americablog.com/2011/08/teabaggers-more-disliked-than-muslim\
s.html


In America, it takes a lot to be more disliked than a Muslim, or  even,
God forbid, an atheist.  From  the NYT
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/17/opinion/crashing-the-tea-party.html?_\
r=2 :

[I]n data we have recently collected, the Tea Party  ranks lower than
any of the 23 other groups we asked about — lower than  both
Republicans and Democrats. It is even less popular than much  maligned
groups like atheists and Muslims. Interestingly, one
group  that approaches it in unpopularity is the Christian Right.And 
here's a surprise - the Tea Party is actually conservative Republicans.
Our analysis casts doubt on the Tea Party's origin story. 
Early on, Tea Partiers were often described as nonpartisan political 
neophytes. Actually, the Tea Party's supporters today were highly 
partisan Republicans long before the Tea Party was born, and were more 
likely than others to have contacted government officials. In fact, past
Republican affiliation is the single strongest predictor of Tea Party 
support today.
And the other factor that defines Teabaggers is the desire to see 
religion (their religion) play a prominent role in the politics.
Next to being a Republican, the strongest predictor of being  a Tea
Party supporter today was a desire, back in 2006, to see religion  play
a prominent role in politics.  Interestingly, and  surprisingly I'd
argue, the public has swung against mixing religion  with politics.
While over the last five years Americans have become  slightly more
conservative economically, they have swung even further in  opposition
to mingling religion and politics. It thus makes sense  that the Tea
Party ranks alongside the Christian Right in unpopularity.This  is quite
interesting.  We'd need more details as to what's motivating  people to
be less interested in religion in the public square, but it  might
provide a nice line of attack for Democrats, if they have the  courage
to take on religion, even batty  religions like Bachmann's and Perry's
http://www.americablog.com/2011/08/do-bachmann-and-perry-think-non.html\
 .  More on Perry's fringe  religious beliefs here
http://www.americablog.com/2011/08/rick-perry-and-new-apostolic.html .

http://www.americablog.com/2011/08/teabaggers-more-disliked-than-muslims\
.html








[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Field of Dashed Dreams by Maureen Dowd NYT

2011-08-20 Thread sparaig


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote:

   I understand, but I thought we spent many tens of billions on the
 stimulus package, and don't have much to show for it.

This is like saying that the Y2K bug was a myth because people spent billions 
of dollars on it and it didn't happen.

In fact, the governmental agency that did NOT spend money to address the Y2K 
issue, lost about a month of processing time because of it.

It is impossible to prove that stimulus money worked because you don't know 
what would have happened without it, but economists can make educated guesses 
and last I heard was that most economists believe the stimulus package helped, 
but not enough. Whether this means more money would have made a difference is 
subject to debate, but few believe it didn't help at all.

L.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Managing an attractive young woman with large breasts

2011-08-20 Thread Tom Pall
On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 4:06 AM, Bob Price bobpri...@yahoo.com wrote:

Yo.  Us rappers need to be surrounded by bitches.   Have her email me with a
picture and I'll decide if this mama's big breasted and beautiful enough to
be in my presence.


[FairfieldLife] Re: The Tea Party’s March of Folly: Idiocracy, Here We Come

2011-08-20 Thread authfriend
Once again the do.rk has helpfully called out for us
at the top of his post the parts of the article he's
cut-and-pasted that he believes are the most important.

And that's a Good Thing, you see, because we just
aren't smart enough to read the article and decide
for ourselves what the most important parts are.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@... wrote:

 
 The Tea Party's March of Folly: Idiocracy, Here We Come
 
 Jon Ponder | Aug. 19, 2011
 
 And it was no accident
 that Republican fatcat operatives
 recognized these dumbasses
 as suckers whom they could
 easily dupe into believing
 that it was the government,
 not big business,
 that caused the financial collapse in 2008;
 that tax cuts create jobs;
 that corporations are people;
 and on and on —
 
 or that a mild-mannered
 DLC centrist Democratic president
 who happens to be black
 is actually a terrifying Kenyan
 anti-colonialist Marxist
 Muslim Nazi fascist illegal alien
 
 Maybe it's naive to think that ideological opponents can be
 brought together by a common fear of mass stupidity: Call
 it idiocraphobia.
 
 
 -- In her Los Angeles Times column on Thursday, Meghan Daum made note of
 the rise references in political commentary to the movie Idiocracy, a 
 2006 burp-and-fart, sci-fi political comedy set 500 years in the future,
 written and directed by Mike Judge, the creator of the animated series 
 Beavis and Butthead and King of the Hill:
 
  References to the film seem to be everywhere, and not just in
  op-eds penned by cranky columnists... The latest issue of the
  Economist has an article about the business-sabotaging effects of
  the battles in Washington, headlined American Idiocracy.
 
  A recent blog post on the Psychology Today website was headlined
  Idiocracy: Can We Reverse It? Meanwhile, it's popping up in
  causal conversations, Internet comments and, most notably, on
  Twitter, where it often appears as a hashtagged topic…
 
 Daum suggests that the movie has been given a second life...
 
 
 Watch 'Idiocracy' Trailer:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=clYwX8Z43zg
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=clYwX8Z43zg
 
 
 Daum's hope is that interest in Idiocracy and the shock
 of recognition of that society is being driven toward the future
 it predicts will give pause to partisans on both sides and bring
 them to their senses.
 
 Maybe it's naive, she writes, to think that ideological
 opponents can be brought together by a common fear of mass
 stupidity: Call it idiocraphobia.
 
 But, see, the problem here is not naivete. The problem with
 this analysis is a reflexive reliance among media types on
 the equivalency meme: both sides are equally guilty, equally
 bad. A pox on both your houses...
 
 It wasn't Congress that behaved like stubborn toddlers. It
 wasn't Democratic leaders Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid and
 their caucuses who seized control of the debt-ceiling debate and
 drove the United States' full faith and credit toward the brink
 of default.
 
 Objectively, this stubborn behavior was only found among one
 discrete faction: The radical know-nothing tea partyists.
 
 There is no equivalency between any group on the left or in the
 middle and the tea party.
 
 No one else is so pliably dim-witted, so unmoored from reality
 that they take it as faith that Jesus rode dinosaurs and the earth
 is just 7,000 years old.
 
 Based on the flimsiest tissues of obvious bogus-ness, they
 convinced themselves that Pres. Obama, a mild-mannered DLC
 centrist Democrat is in reality a terrifying Kenyan anti-
 colonialist Marxist Muslim Nazi fascist illegal alien.
 
 It is not surprising that Republican fatcat operatives have had
 no trouble duping the tea partyists into believing that, for
 example, it was the government, not big business, that caused
 the financial collapse in 2008. That tax cuts create jobs,
 and corporations are people.
 
 It is these people, the tea partyists — not Democrats,
 liberals, independents or even moderate Republicans — who are
 the idiocrats among us...
 
 Continue reading here:
 http://www.pensitoreview.com/2011/08/19/tea-partys-march-of-folly-idiocr\
 acy-here-we-come/
 http://www.pensitoreview.com/2011/08/19/tea-partys-march-of-folly-idioc\
 racy-here-we-come/





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Yes, But the Rich Are Different…

2011-08-20 Thread Bhairitu
On 08/20/2011 10:37 AM, Tom Pall wrote:
 On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 1:15 PM, do.rflexdo.rf...@yahoo.com  wrote:

 Read a little history.  Read about the entitlement the trade unions felt
 after the war in England.  How there was class hatred, basically from the
 trade unionists who felt they were being ripped off.   Actually, they were
 being made redundant because what they produced, like coal, didn't count
 that much anymore.   So the trade unions got what they wanted.  England went
 socialist.And depressed.  Very depressed. As state before, the problem
 with socialism is eventually you run out of people to rob to support the
 self-proclaimed entitled class.  It was only until the Iron Lady started to
 set things right did some these people on the virtual dole start to realize
 that being productive leads to a successful, prosperous life.   Now we're
 back to the dole.  Generations since WWII on the dole.  No hope except to be
 badasses. You want to talk trash?  There's no cracker in America as trashy
 in outlook and being self-defeating as these badasses, male and female.
 Why is England the state under the most surveillance?Go visit and find
 out quickly enough.  It's not the G20, the G10, the G8.   It's lack of
 opportunity and an a whole lot of people so long on the dole they can't
 envision a better life for themselves, not even  by the joys of holding down
 even a part time job.   So it's the rich, the bankers, eh?   Yeah, there's
 ever a reason why it's his fault and not mine.

 We're seeing West Side Story recast as North End Story.

There's nothing wrong with socialism, just the poor implementation of it 
that some countries did.  The Scandinavian countries did a much better 
job.  India's state of Kerala even has a communist government but you 
wouldn't know it as it seemed to have some of the most prosperous 
communities of the states that I visited.

Socialism is a helluva lot more fair than capitalism.  The latter is for 
money crazies, materialistic souls and not for the spiritual folk.  
Capitalism is sink or swim and a high entropy system.   It is primed 
for gangsters to take it over which they have many times and have again.

Most people probably think that the US had only one depression era.  In 
fact it has had many.  Your school textbooks whitewashed that fact.  
Anyone studying the economic history of the US would conclude that 
capitalism is a piss poor system.  It might be okay in a limited 
format.  Socialism and capitalism can co-exist side by side but you have 
to limit the capitalistic aspect of it.

What we have in this country is a bunch of rednecks and teabaggers who 
are too ignorant to really understand economics and really don't know 
history.  They deserve the kind of government they're going to get but I 
just want to move it and them to Antarctica.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Karl Marx was Right

2011-08-20 Thread sparaig


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:

 On 08/20/2011 07:40 AM, richardwillytexwilliams wrote:
 
  Why don't you explain to us how you're
  going to feed yourself if the U.S.
  economy collapses?
 
  Bhairitu:
  I can walk to the local grocery store(s).
 
  You'll be doing a lot of walking after you
  fail to pay your mortage, if the U.S. economy
  collapses. But, you can forget finding much
  on store shelves if that happens!
 
  With a collapsed U.S. economy, you will be
  homeless in about a month. That is, unless
  you try to arm yourself to fight for your
  property. Good luck with that. LoL!
 
 Explain to me how I will be homeless if the bank I pay my mortgage to no 
 longer exists?


If no banks at all exist and all the credit collectors are scrounging for food 
as well, you are correct. But it would take years for the USA systems to 
degrade to that point unless some world-wide EMP event happens or something 
equally sci-fi.

L.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Managing an attractive young woman with large breasts

2011-08-20 Thread Bob Price
Thanks John, 

The image I get when I use the Mahamantra is a rather curvaceous naked women 
with an excellent tan dancing
in front of of two guys in a wagon wearing cheap armour. One of them seems to 
be turning blue from holding his breath
and the other has a bow and arrow in his hand. Am I using the correct mantra?



From: John jr_...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 11:15:02 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Managing an attractive young woman with large 
breasts



Chant the mahamantra while you're with her.  She'll stay away from you for sure.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote:

 You can thank Curtis for this post.
 
 
 
 I’m still interested in techniques that can be employed to better manage 
 
 the uncertainties of perception. The following describes; a situation that 
 recently put me in great perceptual uncertainty---some of the techniques I 
 might have employed to manage the uncertainty, and a request for 
 other posters 
 to share any technique suggestions they might want to post.  
 
 The wife owns her own company and summons me to her 
 office from time to time to consult for her on various commercial activities. 
 Although I know she does this because of my vast experience and overall 
 brilliance,
 she claims it’s to get me away from FFL posting which appears to be causing 
 me tennis elbow (in both arms).
 
 My latest engagement was related to human resource considerations for a new 
 hire 
 and an existing staff member. Specifically, one staff member I was asked to 
 help is 
 an attractive young woman with noticeably large breasts. For background, this 
 woman graduated 
 with honours from Stanford and about 70% of the time she exceeds her managers 
 expectations 
 when executing tasks she has been delegated.  Unfortunately, for the other 
 30% of her time she 
 reverts to a Marilyn persona to distract colleagues from noticing 
 her significant screw ups. Some 
 may know the persona I’m describing---voice becomes childlike and body 
 language screams 
 “save me”. Not to digress, but I’ve often wondered why great Moms teach their 
 daughters to avoid 
 “wolves” but say nothing to their sons about catching the next plane out of 
 town when you run into 
 a damsel in distress. I can’t imagine what I could have saved being on time 
 for that plane.  
 
 In the case of the attractive young woman with large breasts---when I sat 
 down across from her in  
 her cubicle---I believe this in not uncommon with guys in this situation, I 
 employed an uncertainty management
 technique by pretending I wasn’t imagining her naked while she pretended that 
 my thinking was as professional as my behaviour. 
  I would describe my performance as not unlike being on an  MDA drip and 
 pretending its not making me that happy. The end 
 result was not only the normal unreliability of perception, but a mutual non 
 verbal agreement to lie about what was obviously 
 occurring at the time. The results are not only a type of ‘not taking the 
 reality of my perceptions too seriously---what I believe is 
 the essence of uncertainty in perceptions, but also the two of us performing 
 what Brando described to 
 Larry King as: “everyone is an actor its just that some of us get paid better 
 than others for doing it.”
 
 With a desire to be more effective, I’ve considered various techniques that 
 might help this type of
 uncertain perception become more manageable: 
 
 1. Looking at my shoes during the meeting.
 
 2. Looking at her shoes during the meeting (the problem with this option was 
 that it triggered thoughts of her naked with only her shoes on).
 3. Asking her to look at my shoes during the meeting. (God know the legal 
 consequences of this option)
 4. Putting her at ease by talking about Heisenberg’s “uncertainty principal. 
 (I believe she has a science degree)
 5. Employ Herr Edelstein’s technique of putting her at ease with an off 
 colour joke.
 6. Win her over by telling her I know Curtis.
 7. Pretend I’m enlightened.
 8. Tell her I used to know Robin Carson.
 9. Tell her I have a connection in Amsterdam.
 10. Quit the engagement because the wife is obviously trying to set me up.
 
 Any technique suggestions you feel like sharing would be appreciated.
 
 PS: For the new hire, I recommended to the wife that she hire the gay woman 
 she interviewed. 
 She’s by far the best candidate. When I welcomed her to the company she gave 
 me firm handshake
 and the pain from my tennis elbow that shot up my arm almost put me in 
 Samadhi. 
 Obviously tennis elbow is no reason to give up FFL.



   


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Managing an attractive young woman with large breasts

2011-08-20 Thread Bob Price
Denise,

Great to hear from you. Not sure how helpful digital TA or images of Ticker 
Bell naked might be but I would like an update
on your search for male genitalia. 

Would you agree that Tom is by far the most original voice on FFL? I’ve decided 
to suspend the “Weeks Best” as I think it would  
make him unbearable to have a string of awards to go with the string of 
shrunken progressive heads he wears so proudly.


From: Denise Evans dmevans...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 11:27:55 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Managing an attractive young woman with large 
breasts


  
Perhaps you can satiate your brain by boning up on some of Yifu's latest posts 
of mermaids.

--- On Sat, 8/20/11, John jr_...@yahoo.com wrote:


From: John jr_...@yahoo.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Managing an attractive young woman with large 
breasts
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, August 20, 2011, 11:15 AM


  
Chant the mahamantra while you're with her.  She'll stay away from you for 
sure.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote:

 You can thank Curtis for this post.
 
 
 
 I’m still interested in techniques that can be employed to better manage 
 
 the uncertainties of perception. The following describes; a situation that 
 recently put me in great perceptual uncertainty---some of the techniques I 
 might have employed to manage the uncertainty, and a request for 
 other posters 
 to share any technique suggestions they might want to post.  
 
 The wife owns her own company and summons me to her 
 office from time to time to consult for her on various commercial 
 activities. 
 Although I know she does this because of my vast experience and overall 
 brilliance,
 she claims it’s to get me away from FFL posting which appears to be causing 
 me tennis elbow (in both arms).
 
 My latest engagement was related to human resource considerations for a new 
 hire 
 and an existing staff member. Specifically, one staff member I was asked to 
 help is 
 an attractive young woman with noticeably large breasts. For background, 
 this woman graduated 
 with honours from Stanford and about 70% of the time she exceeds her 
 managers expectations 
 when executing tasks she has been delegated.  Unfortunately, for the other 
 30% of her time she 
 reverts to a Marilyn persona to distract colleagues from noticing 
 her significant screw ups. Some 
 may know the persona I’m describing---voice becomes childlike and body 
 language screams 
 “save me”. Not to digress, but I’ve often wondered why great Moms teach 
 their daughters to avoid 
 “wolves” but say nothing to their sons about catching the next plane out of 
 town when you run into 
 a damsel in distress. I can’t imagine what I could have saved being on time 
 for that plane.  
 
 In the case of the attractive young woman with large breasts---when I sat 
 down across from her in  
 her cubicle---I believe this in not uncommon with guys in this situation, I 
 employed an uncertainty management
 technique by pretending I wasn’t imagining her naked while she pretended 
 that my thinking was as professional as my behaviour. 
  I would describe my performance as not unlike being on an  MDA drip and 
 pretending its not making me that happy. The end 
 result was not only the normal unreliability of perception, but a mutual non 
 verbal agreement to lie about what was obviously 
 occurring at the time. The results are not only a type of ‘not taking the 
 reality of my perceptions too seriously---what I believe is 
 the essence of uncertainty in perceptions, but also the two of us performing 
 what Brando described to 
 Larry King as: “everyone is an actor its just that some of us get paid 
 better than others for doing it.”
 
 With a desire to be more effective, I’ve considered various techniques that 
 might help this type of
 uncertain perception become more manageable: 
 
 1. Looking at my shoes during the meeting.
 
 2. Looking at her shoes during the meeting (the problem with this option was 
 that it triggered thoughts of her naked with only her shoes on).
 3. Asking her to look at my shoes during the meeting. (God know the legal 
 consequences of this option)
 4. Putting her at ease by talking about Heisenberg’s “uncertainty 
 principal. (I believe she has a science degree)
 5. Employ Herr Edelstein’s technique of putting her at ease with an off 
 colour joke.
 6. Win her over by telling her I know Curtis.
 7. Pretend I’m enlightened.
 8. Tell her I used to know Robin Carson.
 9. Tell her I have a connection in Amsterdam.
 10. Quit the engagement because the wife is obviously trying to set me up.
 
 Any technique suggestions you feel like sharing would be appreciated.
 
 PS: For the new hire, I recommended to the wife that she hire the gay woman 
 she interviewed. 
 She’s by far the best candidate. When I welcomed her to the company she gave 
 me firm 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Managing an attractive young woman with large breasts

2011-08-20 Thread Bob Price
Judy,

Always a joy to hear from you and I sincerely apologize for any interruption my 
Shanghaing of subject lines may have caused to your life in the the archives”.



From: authfriend jst...@panix.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 11:18:44 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Managing an attractive young woman with large 
breasts


  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote:

 Thanks Turq, I think I have it figured.

Nope, at least not as viewed on the Web site:

 On the new Yahoo version the plain text option has been
 moved from “options�

--and--

 garbled quote symbols I’ll

And here's how a paragraph from another of your posts
appeared on the Web site:

-
Of course most of us know politics or plane crashes
are oh so much more sophisticated to write about that say celebrity divorces.
Reminds 
me a bit of the alcoholic that insists on “Russian Standard�
rather than “Smirnoff�, I don’t gossip because I care about
the politics I write about. I really care about my opinions
so how could it be gossip.
-

Here's how a paragraph from yet another of your posts
looks on the Web site--you're quoting Curtis:

-
It is not just the fun bags giving you trouble.  It is the specific hip to
waist ratio that plugs into our genetic preferences.  That is what says
fertility.  The bad news for men is that chicks have a pre-programmed
shoulder to waist ratio that is highly unforgiving of an over fondness for La
Querche Prosciutto.  When you lose that wedge look you don't  get that
automatic head snap from the ladies anymore.  This is why I perform sitting
down!  I have discovered another formula that seems to be in play.  If a
man's stomach protrusion is equalled by how far his wallet extends behind him,
he can still pull the hotties.  This ratio seems to have been instilled later
in our evolution as a species.
-

Another annoyance is the header information that gets
put into many people's posts (including this one from
you):


From: curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 9:43:18 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Managing an attractive young woman with large
breasts

The annoyance is that it takes up the entire Message View
snippet of text from the post.

Also, posts that have this header don't have quote prefixes
except (sometimes) one at the beginning of the paragraph
instead of one in front of every line. The workarounds
(e.g., Response:) that these posters insert manually to
distinguish what they've written from what they're quoting 
become a pain in the neck in exchanges that continue for
several rounds. Combine that with broken lines when folks
use word wrap, and these conversations can be almost
impossible to read. When I want to contribute something,
I may end up spending more time reformatting what I'm
responding to so it's readable than actually writing.

One good thing about your new approach, Bob, is that the
type size is large enough that I don't have to squint.
But the garbage characters are really maddening. Not only
is it hard to read past them, they disrupt the continuity
of the writing.


 

[FairfieldLife] 'Straw Man for 2012?

2011-08-20 Thread Robert
Who Knows?



Re: [FairfieldLife] Managing an attractive young woman with large breasts

2011-08-20 Thread Bob Price
The thing that bugs me about rappers is that they’re always trying to “skate” 
on management fees. I guess thats the street creds Ronny was splaining.



From: Tom Pall thomas.p...@gmail.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 11:49:21 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Managing an attractive young woman with large 
breasts


  
On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 4:06 AM, Bob Price bobpri...@yahoo.com wrote:


Yo.  Us rappers need to be surrounded by bitches.   Have her email me with a 
picture and I'll decide if this mama's big breasted and beautiful enough to be 
in my presence. 

 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Why I love Walmart

2011-08-20 Thread Bhairitu
I have watched some movies from the former Soviet Block.  They now have 
big box stores that look like a mix between Walmart and Costco.  There 
was a hilarious comedy involving a bunch of employees of such a store.  
It's probably on NF but I don't recall the title (rented it at Hollywood 
Video when they were around).

The closest big box store to me is Walmart which is a little over a mile 
away.  It was the local Costco but the city wouldn't let them build a 
bigger store so they built a bigger store in the adjacent city.  Fry's 
Electronics wanted the building too but the city fathers decided they 
wanted Walmart instead.  That was a slap in the face to the Fry's family 
because they are from this town.  Being a tech geek I would probably 
already be broke having such a candy store that nearby.  Fry's took 
over an abandoned Levitz about 7 miles away.

Don't hold your breathe too much on Walmart expansion.  They are already 
feeling the pinch from the economy.  If you want business you need 
customers with money.  And right now that customer total is diminishing 
as people lose their source of income.  And that is the banksters 
fault.  Walmart is now getting into smaller stores these days.

I don't shop at Walmart that much but I'm not about to drive the extra 3 
miles to Target which is the same game different outfit (sorry Alex).   
I often just walk through Walmart to see what is up.  And if I do buy 
things there they often are US made products.  For instance Walgreen's 
had been selling Old Wisconsin Turkey Bites.  Compared to the other 
turkey snacks out there Old Wisconsin has all natural snacks, no MSG.  
Walmart began selling the Turkey Bite packages at $2.50 a pack.  They 
were $2.50 a pack at Walgreen's if you bought two.  Walgreen's now only 
carries the Beef Bites and Turkey Sticks.  The other day when I picked 
up a pack of the Turkey Bites at Walmart the clerk remarked these are 
really popular and when I told her they were all natural and had no MSG 
her eyes lit up.  Now they will have another customer.

Walmart still gets some of my money without going there.  They bought 
the Vudu HD streaming video company last year and I often rent films 
still in theaters there or foreign and indie films that may take 
forever to come to NF.

On 08/20/2011 10:24 AM, Bob Price wrote:
 I also love Walmart because its truly American. Costco on the other hand 
 looks like what the communists promised but failed to deliver. And I love 
 Target because it helps us pretend we still have a middle class. I also agree 
 that Walmart has proven that “Unionization” was an aberration in the American 
 dream and its time for some rapper (say Python head) to do a remake of 16 
 TONS”

 “Saint Peter don’t you call me---cause I can’t goI owe my soul to the 
 company store.” 

 One of the many other things I love about Walmart is that i love variety and 
 Walmart is the first thing I’ve seen Tom and Alex agree on. And of course how 
 could we owe the Chinese trillions without Walmart functioning as a conduit 
 from those Chinese sweatshops to my garage. With Walmart’s help American is 
 now in that position of strength that states: “When I owe my banker a million 
 I’m in trouble, when I owe him a trillion he’s in trouble.” 

 I’m looking forward to Walmart turning the airports into Super Stores because 
 when the wife gets molested by airport security I would much prefer the 
 double wide
 inspector is wearing a smily faces

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIfu2A0ezq0


 
 From: Tom Pallthomas.p...@gmail.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comfairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 9:28:28 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Why I love Walmart



 There was a time before Walmart.  I remember that time, going through jerk 
 water towns around the US and places not along the railroad and therefore 
 never capable of being jerk water towns.Fairfield, Iowa was a jerk water 
 town. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_stop   I am now pretty much 
 guaranteed almost wherever I go that there will be groceries, batteries, 
 coffee mugs, mats for the car, all sorts of goodies, all under one roof.   
 One day I arrived in FF and my luggage did not.  It had gone to Korea.  So I 
 was able to pick up crappy but acceptable toiletries, flying clothes, some 
 shirts, pants, socks to tide me over until my luggage arrived a few days 
 later.   Having to go into the little shops on the square with SALE 
 emblazoned painted on the windows was something I didn't relish.   Choose 
 from a dozen shirts, none of which was my size, from a dozen pair of 
 trousers, no flying clothes except the stuff at the MIU bookstore, well it
   was one stop shopping.

 I like that I can go to Walmart and stock up on certain things like big 
 bottles of mouthwash, batteries, staples, get a prescription filled, even get 
 my oil changed in my car, all at the same time.  Is it Trader Joe's?  Well, 
 

[FairfieldLife] Maharishi Free School, UK

2011-08-20 Thread merlin
Maharishi
Free School, UK

  Maharishi

  School has been accepted as a Free
  School by the UK Government, which
  means it will receive full support,
  including 100% funding, from now on.
  Raja

  Peter announced that the UK Government
  has granted “Free School” status to
  the Maharishi School in Skelmersdale,
  whereby the School joins other state
  maintained schools in England.
  

From now on all expenses of
the School will be fully covered by the
state, including tuition fees, teachers'
salaries, and building costs. Construction
has already started to create additional
classrooms, and within a few years a new
Vastu facility is being proposed by the
School. This also gives the opportunity for
further Maharishi Schools to be opened in
England in coming years with government
funding. At the same time, it will be an
inspiration for other schools to adopt
Consciousness-Based Education. This
achievement comes out of 25 years of success
of the school, during which it has been
consistently ranked amongst the highest
achieving schools in the country.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Karl Marx was Right

2011-08-20 Thread Bhairitu
On 08/20/2011 11:57 AM, sparaig wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@...  wrote:
 On 08/20/2011 07:40 AM, richardwillytexwilliams wrote:
 Why don't you explain to us how you're
 going to feed yourself if the U.S.
 economy collapses?

 Bhairitu:
 I can walk to the local grocery store(s).

 You'll be doing a lot of walking after you
 fail to pay your mortage, if the U.S. economy
 collapses. But, you can forget finding much
 on store shelves if that happens!

 With a collapsed U.S. economy, you will be
 homeless in about a month. That is, unless
 you try to arm yourself to fight for your
 property. Good luck with that. LoL!
 Explain to me how I will be homeless if the bank I pay my mortgage to no
 longer exists?

 If no banks at all exist and all the credit collectors are scrounging for 
 food as well, you are correct. But it would take years for the USA systems to 
 degrade to that point unless some world-wide EMP event happens or something 
 equally sci-fi.

 L.

B of A is on it's deathbed.  They have just announced more layoffs.  So 
is Chase, so is Wells Fargo.  They are in BIG TROUBLE.  They will 
probably be asking for another bailout and people should take to the 
streets and riot if the fuckers in Washington give it to them.  That 
would truly be the LAST STRAW.

If you understand derivatives, default credit swaps and all the 
other gambling devices the banks engaged in, most all them deserve to go 
away.  If the shits in DC hadn't given the bailout in '08 we probably 
would have been rid of them.  When you go to a bank nowadays you are 
being robbed.

What would probably happen is the local owned banks would remain and 
people would shift to those.  Many are already particularly moving their 
money to credit unions which are largely non-profit.

This movie looks like it is going to be a good one on the financial crisis:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2DqFRsPrns

I love the line there are three ways to make a living in this business: 
be first, be smarter or cheat.  Many chose the latter.  They deserve to 
lose.








[FairfieldLife] Re: Krishnas Birthday

2011-08-20 Thread obbajeeba
Thank you for posting!  

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merlin vedamerlin@... wrote:

 The Muhurta for Krishna
 Janmashtami this Sunday the 21st is: 
 
   3:34 PM to 3:43 PM MERU time. Rashtra Geeta
 will begin at 3:15 PM.
 
   
 
   Krishna Janmashtami day is
   expressive of total analysis of unity. What is the
   total analysis of unity? Ashtamiâ€the Eight. The
   eight Prakritis are divided nature of Prakriti
   (Prakriti means the nature). Shri Krishna, Total
   Knowledge incarnate, total silence incarnate,
   total dynamism potential incarnate, total Kriya
   Shakti, Gyan Shakti, Samanvayat, Purnah Brahm -
   Unity in Diversity.





[FairfieldLife] 'KRiSHNa'

2011-08-20 Thread Robert


[FairfieldLife] 'Beatles~Summer of Love~1967!'

2011-08-20 Thread Robert
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4p8qxGbpOk

Re: [FairfieldLife] Why I love Walmart

2011-08-20 Thread Tom Pall
On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote:


 Don't hold your breathe too much on Walmart expansion.  They are already
 feeling the pinch from the economy.  If you want business you need
 customers with money.  And right now that customer total is diminishing
 as people lose their source of income.  And that is the banksters
 fault.  Walmart is now getting into smaller stores these days.


Walmart made a very big mistake and though it vows to correct it, it's not
doing it fast enough, IMO.   I used to love to go to Walmart Superstores
because of the great variety and at times, even quality.  But the Walmart I
go to for the time being is even more depressing than the the Walmart I was
going to Flugerville, Texas.   Walmart decided they'd be sort of like TJ,
with a single brand and limited merchandise.  So every time I went to
Walmart, some favorite food I wanted, say Mexican Rice Pudding, had
disappeared.   The Walmart a bit south of me in South Carolina sells perhaps
50 different varieties of canned beans.   All Bush's beans.  I've looked and
looked and even accidentally taken home Bush's Meatless beans only to find
when I got home that there was beef tallow in the beans.   No other brand.
I needed a wine glass.  I could buy any size, shape and quantity of wine
glass or water glass or tumbler or whatever, as long as it was made out of
plastic, with a great big seam down the side.  When I told the store manager
a couple years ago at the Walmart in Flugerville and also called up
Corporate to remind them that there are also affluent shoppers who don't
want to go to a big box store then go do their real shopping, they flipped
me off.   About a year ago they found Jesus and are re-introducing brands
they had d/c'ed. Appears there were more upscale shoppers than they had
imagined.   The Krogers in the 120% Hispanic section of Austin I go to
decided it was going to be a value store.  That concept failed miserably.
It turns out that Mexicans want more than cheese imported from Mexico.  They
also make spaghetti and wanted Romano cheese to put on top just as I do.

Walmart and Krogers discovered that there weren't as many shoppers they had
thought wanted to shop former Soviet Union style where there was bread or
eggs or butter but never all three.

Another problem with Walmart.  The Flugerville and other Texas stores had
massive inventory problems.  Say I wanted swiss cheese.   None in the deli
case.  No slabs of Swiss cheese, no prepackaged Swiss cheese.  Not even
Swiss cheese flavored crackers or any Swiss cheese spread.   People who
wanted to buy Swiss cheese something picked the place clean.  Perhaps there
were not even plastic swiss cheese wedges left in the toy department.   Now
this would go on for months.  Finally, they got in Swiss cheese.  Then no
Pom anything for months.   The convenience of one stop shopping was gone and
IMO might never come back.

Of course I'd rather shop at Target or in one of those upscale non-mall
malls they have in Overland Park, KS or in parts of ?greater? Austin.   But
Target is heavy on glasses but light on anything to pour into them.
Dishes, knives and forks but little except Vienna sausage to place on those
dishes.Mens underwear?  No variety.   And I've never seen a Target, even
in Mexico, which had a Santaria section.   Now how on Earth are you going to
keep evil spirits away or cast spells on people without proper Santaria?
Barry, how's your back been lately?   Even the Dollar store carries Santaria
merchandise in many towns.   Why not Target?   Walmart sells Santaria
merchandise even in Fargo, North Dakota.


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Managing an attractive young woman with large breasts

2011-08-20 Thread Denise Evans
Ahhh, yes...I'll put that right at the top of my priority list.  It is true, 
there is a marked absence in pictures of naked men on the FFL show - clearly an 
important missing feature. But, luckily, the lack of direct visuals is remedied 
adequately by the descriptive text of the script writers.
I am also finding that Hindu terminology and language has a sensuality to it 
best experienced from a state of ignorance. 

--- On Sat, 8/20/11, Bob Price bobpri...@yahoo.com wrote:

From: Bob Price bobpri...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Managing an attractive young woman with large 
breasts
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, August 20, 2011, 12:03 PM















 
 



  



  
  
  Denise,
Great to hear from you. Not sure how helpful digital TA or images of Ticker 
Bell naked might be but I would like an updateon your search for male 
genitalia. 
Would you agree that Tom is by far the most original voice on FFL? I’ve decided 
to suspend the “Weeks Best” as I think it would  make him unbearable to have a 
string of awards to go with the string of shrunken progressive heads he wears 
so proudly.From: Denise Evans
 dmevans...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 11:27:55 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Managing an attractive young woman with large 
breasts















 
 




  
  
  Perhaps you can satiate your brain by boning up on some of Yifu's latest 
posts of mermaids.

--- On Sat, 8/20/11, John jr_...@yahoo.com wrote:

From: John jr_...@yahoo.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Managing an attractive young woman with large 
breasts
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, August 20, 2011, 11:15 AM















 
 




  
  
  Chant the mahamantra while you're with her.  She'll stay away from you 
for sure.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote:



 You can thank Curtis for this post.

 

 

 

 I’m still interested in techniques that can be employed to better manage 

 

 the uncertainties of perception. The following describes; a situation that 

 recently put me in great perceptual uncertainty---some of the techniques I 

 might have employed to manage the uncertainty, and a request for 
 other posters 

 to share any technique suggestions they might want to post.  

 

 The wife owns her own company and summons me to her 

 office from time to time to consult for her on various commercial activities. 

 Although I know she does this because of my vast experience and overall 
 brilliance,

 she claims it’s to get me away from FFL posting which appears to be causing 

 me tennis elbow (in both arms).

 

 My latest engagement was related to human resource considerations for a new 
 hire 

 and an existing staff member. Specifically, one staff member I was asked to 
 help is 

 an attractive young woman with noticeably large breasts. For background, this 
 woman graduated 

 with honours from Stanford and about 70% of the time she exceeds her managers 
 expectations 

 when executing tasks she has been delegated.  Unfortunately, for the other 
 30% of her time she 

 reverts to a Marilyn persona to distract colleagues from noticing 
 her significant screw ups. Some 

 may know the persona I’m describing---voice becomes childlike and body 
 language screams 

 “save me”. Not to digress, but I’ve often wondered why great Moms teach their 
 daughters to avoid 

 “wolves” but say nothing to their sons about catching the next plane out of 
 town when you run into 

 a damsel in distress. I can’t imagine what I could have saved being on time 
 for that plane.  

 

 In the case of the attractive young woman with large breasts---when I sat 
 down across from her in  

 her cubicle---I believe this in not uncommon with guys in this situation, I 
 employed an uncertainty management

 technique by pretending I wasn’t imagining her naked while she pretended that 
 my thinking was as professional as my behaviour. 

  I would describe my performance as not unlike being on an  MDA drip and 
 pretending its not making me that happy. The end 

 result was not only the normal unreliability of perception, but a mutual non 
 verbal agreement to lie about what was obviously 

 occurring at the time. The results are not only a type of ‘not taking the 
 reality of my perceptions too seriously---what I believe is 

 the essence of uncertainty in perceptions, but also the two of us performing 
 what Brando described to 

 Larry King as: “everyone is an actor its just that some of us get paid better 
 than others for doing it.”

 

 With a desire to be more effective, I’ve considered various techniques that 
 might help this type of

 uncertain perception become more manageable: 

 

 1. Looking at my shoes during the meeting.

 

 2. Looking at her shoes during the meeting (the problem with this option was 
 that it triggered thoughts of 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Managing an attractive young woman with large breasts [4 Attachments]

2011-08-20 Thread Tom Pall
On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Denise Evans dmevans...@yahoo.com wrote:



 Ahhh, yes...I'll put that right at the top of my priority list.  It is
 true, there is a marked absence in pictures of naked men on the FFL show -
 clearly an important missing feature. But, luckily, the lack of direct
 visuals is remedied adequately by the descriptive text of the script
 writers.

 I am also finding that Hindu terminology and language has a sensuality to
 it best experienced from a state of ignorance.



Just whom are you calling ignorant, young lady?  You want male genitalis,
here ya go.


http://www.globalcountry.org.uk/assets/image200727.jpg

And, for the record, depictions and descriptions of nubile females is a very
proper thing here.


Re: [FairfieldLife] webOs on iPad!

2011-08-20 Thread Vaj

On Aug 20, 2011, at 3:49 AM, cardemaister wrote:

 FWIW, webOS on iPad:
 
 http://thenextweb.com/apple/2011/08/19/hp-tested-webos-on-an-ipad-it-ran-over-twice-as-fast/
 
 HP's WebOS team almost certainly had an idea that the company's new tablet, 
 the TouchPad, had very little chance of challenging Apple's dominance in the 
 tablet market, as the company's webOS operating system was running over 
 twice as fast on its rival's iPad 2 tablet, a source close to the subject 
 revealed to The Next Web. 

http://www.macworld.com/article/161775/2011/08/why_cant_windows_pcs_catch_up_to_the_macbook_air_.html#lsrc.nl_mwnws_h_crawl

LINK

[FairfieldLife] Re: Managing an attractive young woman with large breasts

2011-08-20 Thread obbajeeba
authfriend wins the line of the day!  LMAO!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:

 Sorry to have bothered you. You seemed to have some interest
 in how to make your posts more readable. My mistake.
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote:
 
  Judy,
  
  Always a joy to hear from you and I sincerely apologize for any 
  interruption my Shanghaing of subject lines may have caused to your life 
  in the the archives”.
  
  
  
  From: authfriend jstein@
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 11:18:44 AM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Managing an attractive young woman with large 
  breasts
  
  
    
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote:
  
   Thanks Turq, I think I have it figured.
  
  Nope, at least not as viewed on the Web site:
  
   On the new Yahoo version the plain text option has been
   moved from â€Åoptions�
  
  --and--
  
   garbled quote symbols I’ll
  
  And here's how a paragraph from another of your posts
  appeared on the Web site:
  
  -
  Of course most of us know politics or plane crashes
  are oh so much more sophisticated to write about that say celebrity 
  divorces.
  Reminds 
  me a bit of the alcoholic that insists on â€ÅRussian Standard�
  rather than â€ÅSmirnoff�, I don’t gossip because I care 
  about
  the politics I write about. I really care about my opinions
  so how could it be gossip.
  -
  
  Here's how a paragraph from yet another of your posts
  looks on the Web site--you're quoting Curtis:
  
  -
  It is not just the fun bags giving you trouble.  It is the specific hip 
  to
  waist ratio that plugs into our genetic preferences.  That is what says
  fertility.  The bad news for men is that chicks have a pre-programmed
  shoulder to waist ratio that is highly unforgiving of an over fondness for 
  La
  Querche Prosciutto.  When you lose that wedge look you don't  get 
  that
  automatic head snap from the ladies anymore.  This is why I perform 
  sitting
  down!  I have discovered another formula that seems to be in play.  
  If a
  man's stomach protrusion is equalled by how far his wallet extends behind 
  him,
  he can still pull the hotties.  This ratio seems to have been instilled 
  later
  in our evolution as a species.
  -
  
  Another annoyance is the header information that gets
  put into many people's posts (including this one from
  you):
  
  
  From: curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 9:43:18 AM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Managing an attractive young woman with large
  breasts
  
  The annoyance is that it takes up the entire Message View
  snippet of text from the post.
  
  Also, posts that have this header don't have quote prefixes
  except (sometimes) one at the beginning of the paragraph
  instead of one in front of every line. The workarounds
  (e.g., Response:) that these posters insert manually to
  distinguish what they've written from what they're quoting 
  become a pain in the neck in exchanges that continue for
  several rounds. Combine that with broken lines when folks
  use word wrap, and these conversations can be almost
  impossible to read. When I want to contribute something,
  I may end up spending more time reformatting what I'm
  responding to so it's readable than actually writing.
  
  One good thing about your new approach, Bob, is that the
  type size is large enough that I don't have to squint.
  But the garbage characters are really maddening. Not only
  is it hard to read past them, they disrupt the continuity
  of the writing.
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Managing an attractive young woman with large breasts

2011-08-20 Thread obbajeeba
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AS-ts5_nuF8

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@... wrote:

 On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Denise Evans dmevans365@... wrote:
 
 
 
  Ahhh, yes...I'll put that right at the top of my priority list.  It is
  true, there is a marked absence in pictures of naked men on the FFL show -
  clearly an important missing feature. But, luckily, the lack of direct
  visuals is remedied adequately by the descriptive text of the script
  writers.
 
  I am also finding that Hindu terminology and language has a sensuality to
  it best experienced from a state of ignorance.
 
 
 
 Just whom are you calling ignorant, young lady?  You want male genitalis,
 here ya go.
 
 
 http://www.globalcountry.org.uk/assets/image200727.jpg
 
 And, for the record, depictions and descriptions of nubile females is a very
 proper thing here.





Re: [FairfieldLife] Why I love Walmart

2011-08-20 Thread Bhairitu
On 08/20/2011 12:47 PM, Tom Pall wrote:
 On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Bhairitunoozg...@sbcglobal.net  wrote:

 Don't hold your breathe too much on Walmart expansion.  They are already
 feeling the pinch from the economy.  If you want business you need
 customers with money.  And right now that customer total is diminishing
 as people lose their source of income.  And that is the banksters
 fault.  Walmart is now getting into smaller stores these days.


 Walmart made a very big mistake and though it vows to correct it, it's not
 doing it fast enough, IMO.   I used to love to go to Walmart Superstores
 because of the great variety and at times, even quality.  But the Walmart I
 go to for the time being is even more depressing than the the Walmart I was
 going to Flugerville, Texas.   Walmart decided they'd be sort of like TJ,
 with a single brand and limited merchandise.  So every time I went to
 Walmart, some favorite food I wanted, say Mexican Rice Pudding, had
 disappeared.   The Walmart a bit south of me in South Carolina sells perhaps
 50 different varieties of canned beans.   All Bush's beans.  I've looked and
 looked and even accidentally taken home Bush's Meatless beans only to find
 when I got home that there was beef tallow in the beans.   No other brand.
 I needed a wine glass.  I could buy any size, shape and quantity of wine
 glass or water glass or tumbler or whatever, as long as it was made out of
 plastic, with a great big seam down the side.  When I told the store manager
 a couple years ago at the Walmart in Flugerville and also called up
 Corporate to remind them that there are also affluent shoppers who don't
 want to go to a big box store then go do their real shopping, they flipped
 me off.   About a year ago they found Jesus and are re-introducing brands
 they had d/c'ed. Appears there were more upscale shoppers than they had
 imagined.   The Krogers in the 120% Hispanic section of Austin I go to
 decided it was going to be a value store.  That concept failed miserably.
 It turns out that Mexicans want more than cheese imported from Mexico.  They
 also make spaghetti and wanted Romano cheese to put on top just as I do.

 Walmart and Krogers discovered that there weren't as many shoppers they had
 thought wanted to shop former Soviet Union style where there was bread or
 eggs or butter but never all three.

 Another problem with Walmart.  The Flugerville and other Texas stores had
 massive inventory problems.  Say I wanted swiss cheese.   None in the deli
 case.  No slabs of Swiss cheese, no prepackaged Swiss cheese.  Not even
 Swiss cheese flavored crackers or any Swiss cheese spread.   People who
 wanted to buy Swiss cheese something picked the place clean.  Perhaps there
 were not even plastic swiss cheese wedges left in the toy department.   Now
 this would go on for months.  Finally, they got in Swiss cheese.  Then no
 Pom anything for months.   The convenience of one stop shopping was gone and
 IMO might never come back.

 Of course I'd rather shop at Target or in one of those upscale non-mall
 malls they have in Overland Park, KS or in parts of ?greater? Austin.   But
 Target is heavy on glasses but light on anything to pour into them.
 Dishes, knives and forks but little except Vienna sausage to place on those
 dishes.Mens underwear?  No variety.   And I've never seen a Target, even
 in Mexico, which had a Santaria section.   Now how on Earth are you going to
 keep evil spirits away or cast spells on people without proper Santaria?
 Barry, how's your back been lately?   Even the Dollar store carries Santaria
 merchandise in many towns.   Why not Target?   Walmart sells Santaria
 merchandise even in Fargo, North Dakota.

I think Bush's does make a vegetarian line.  They are at my local 
regional (California) chain (Raley's).  I do most of my grocery shopping 
there.  I have to watch for their specials of which there are plenty.  
Second choice is Lucky's which is a larger store 2 mile away.  The local 
Raley's which is their Nob Hill variant is a small store and may not 
have everything that is on special though they just remodeled and made 
it big enough to handle most things.  What they didn't add was their 
Sizzlin' Wok Chinese take out in the deli.  They have a sushi chef but 
not the Chinese nor fried chicken specials.  One of the managers told me 
the town wouldn't let them put in a deep fryer as the place wasn't zoned 
for it.  I said what! there is a Chinese restaurant next door with a 
deep fryer.  He replied, they probably bribed the officials.

I shop TJ's at least twice a month.  They have some great stuff.  Their 
turkey muffins are killer. Their turkey meatloaf not some much though.  
I note they don't have shrimp at the moment and they didn't seem to know 
why so I suggested bet you were getting them from the Gulf and 
corporate probably doesn't want to run a risk on current Gulf shrimp 
because of the dispersants.  If they would make a small pizza sized 

[FairfieldLife] 'Why Obama will be Pres. again'...(Power Temptation)

2011-08-20 Thread Robert
From my understanding of 'Why' Barack Obama is and will be President again:
Is Because:
He is a 'moderatiing force' in the time of 'great turmoil' , that we are 
experiencing on all levels with the coming of the year: 2012, and the end of 
the Mayan Calender, signifying the end of an old time, and the beginning of a 
'New Time'...
In the new time, time will begin to be experienced as proposed in 'Einstein's 
Theory of Relativity'...that of being 'Flexible'...
The inner field of the light of consciousness will be more readily available to 
the 'World dPopulation'...
This means as 'Time' is experienced in it's relativity, more and more people 
will be encouraged to 'Follow their Heart' , or 'Follow their Bliss' as we see 
more of  the younger generation, fulfilling their hearts and souls this way, 
around the world, and further, the younger ones are establishing, in their 
hearts: Less prejudice in general to people different from them, but rather a 
curiousity about people from different cultures, backrounds and eithnic  
values...
As more and more of the 'Old Way' is being exhibited for it's 'Egoic Prejudiced 
Values'...only striving to preserve the 'Hoarded Wealth of the Rich'...
We begin to see the 'Temptation of Power' and how it is used to as it were,
Keep societies stuck, while only the most wealthy, proper...
This way is coming to an end soon, and because President Obama is the one with 
the most love for his family and his nation,  and because he is the one 
who(partly because he grew up in Hawaii), that has the 'Balanced Temperment' 
and intelligence...will be elected again...
He has avoided most of the temptations which come with the gaining of 'Worldly 
Power'...
So, in conclusion, we can see why the Republicans are having so much trouble 
finding someone to face off with President Obama...
J.G.D.
 
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Managing an attractive young woman with large breasts

2011-08-20 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Denise Evans dmevans365@... wrote:

 I am also finding that Hindu terminology and language has a 
 sensuality to it best experienced from a state of ignorance.

Now *that* is the line of the week. I'm with ya,
sista. Nothing on earth can be as prudish while
pretending to be sensual as Hindu porn. 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Do nothing and accomplish everything.

2011-08-20 Thread Ravi Yogi
Dear L - why this fascination with dead guys and their dead words, me
prefers alive people and words, would rather listen to a St. Goff than a
St. Thomas :-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote:

 Small self surrounded by Big Self is not anything of value.

 CC precedes GC precedes UC. If you think you're having some kind of UC
experience when not already in CC (no small self), then you're not
having UC.


 L.

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote:
 
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@
wrote:
   
I interpret this as meaning do nothing as the self, and
everything will be accomplished by the Self. In waking
state it makes no sense at all.
  
   FWIW, that's the exact opposite of what MMY meant by
   it, with reference to the Gita. For the enlightened
   person, it's the Self that is the nondoer, and the
   self that acts according to the dictates of the gunas.
 
  * * That was my first thought too, Judy. But then I saw what Jim
meant -- when we (small selves) are surrendered to Wholeness (big Self),
it appears that Wholeness is running the whole show, and we do nothing.
But from the other point of view, as the Gita says, We as wholeness do
nothing, and the I-particles, the small selves, do it all. I suspect
that no-one actually does anything, big-S or small-s, but it all just
gets done (or appears to get done) anyhow.
 
  Who does a dream, anyway? The dreamer isn't doing anything but
watching it unfold, and the dream-characters don't really exist as
separate entities, so  they aren't really doing anything, either, though
when we are identified with one of the characters, we sure think we are
doing something!
 




[FairfieldLife] Re: Do nothing and accomplish everything.

2011-08-20 Thread Ravi Yogi
Beautiful Jim - this and your previous post, you have articulated the
indescribable in words quite well.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@...
wrote:

 It is so intriguing and difficult to capture that space between us and
everything else, where no clear lines of division exist, and yet in
order to function in the world such divisions create unfathomable beauty
and questions and challenges, an utterly chaotic, perfect orderliness.

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote:
 
  Hi, Jim! Yes, that is exactly what I was trying to express below,
only you did it better :-)
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@
wrote:
  
   Hi Judy and Rory, Its a perception thing - I exist as an
individual entity with all my wondrous gifts and challenges, surrounded
by a seamless fabric of invisible dynamism, of tangible pregnancy,
potential and love, like being able to easily breathe underwater again.
After so many lifetimes I forgot what the ocean feels like, always
there, a liquid fabric of infinite connections to play in, and interact
with.
  
   Everything I do is so intrinsically a part of that which surrounds
me, so that the bodily entity of me reduces down to virtually nothing,
except the same pure expression as that which surrounds me.
  
   Nothing becomes everything, not by virtue of expanding nothing,
but rather, by bringing it into sync with everything else; the self does
nothing, and the Self accomplishes everything.
  
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@
wrote:
   
   
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7
whynotnow7@ wrote:
 
  I interpret this as meaning do nothing as the self, and
  everything will be accomplished by the Self. In waking
  state it makes no sense at all.

 FWIW, that's the exact opposite of what MMY meant by
 it, with reference to the Gita. For the enlightened
 person, it's the Self that is the nondoer, and the
 self that acts according to the dictates of the gunas.
   
* * That was my first thought too, Judy. But then I saw what Jim
meant -- when we (small selves) are surrendered to Wholeness (big Self),
it appears that Wholeness is running the whole show, and we do nothing.
But from the other point of view, as the Gita says, We as wholeness do
nothing, and the I-particles, the small selves, do it all. I suspect
that no-one actually does anything, big-S or small-s, but it all just
gets done (or appears to get done) anyhow.
   
Who does a dream, anyway? The dreamer isn't doing anything but
watching it unfold, and the dream-characters don't really exist as
separate entities, so  they aren't really doing anything, either, though
when we are identified with one of the characters, we sure think we are
doing something!
   
  
 




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Managing an attractive young woman with large breasts

2011-08-20 Thread Bob Price
This will be a twofer as I didn’t receive Judy’s post directly.

1. To hell with spelling your name right obeegeeba, I’m not sure sucking up to 
Judy is a good career move.

2. Judy, I didn’t get this post from you directly but any advice from you is 
always appreciated although it appears
not all web sites are receiving my posts as you described. My posts come back 
to me in Yahoo mail without the changes you’ve found and
other posters using the latest version of Yahoo mail at the Yahoo web site have 
confirmed they are receiving my posts without anything 
garbled. To quote Cliff, go figure. 



From: obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 1:34:13 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Managing an attractive young woman with large 
breasts



authfriend wins the line of the day!  LMAO!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:

 Sorry to have bothered you. You seemed to have some interest
 in how to make your posts more readable. My mistake.
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote:
 
  Judy,
  
  Always a joy to hear from you and I sincerely apologize for any 
  interruption my Shanghaing of subject lines may have caused to your life 
  in the the archives�.
  
  
  
  From: authfriend jstein@
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 11:18:44 AM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Managing an attractive young woman with large 
  breasts
  
  
    
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote:
  
   Thanks Turq, I think I have it figured.
  
  Nope, at least not as viewed on the Web site:
  
   On the new Yahoo version the plain text option has been
   moved from â€Åoptions�
  
  --and--
  
   garbled quote symbols I’ll
  
  And here's how a paragraph from another of your posts
  appeared on the Web site:
  
  -
  Of course most of us know politics or plane crashes
  are oh so much more sophisticated to write about that say celebrity 
  divorces.
  Reminds 
  me a bit of the alcoholic that insists on â€ÅRussian Standard�
  rather than â€ÅSmirnoff�, I don’t gossip because I care 
  about
  the politics I write about. I really care about my opinions
  so how could it be gossip.
  -
  
  Here's how a paragraph from yet another of your posts
  looks on the Web site--you're quoting Curtis:
  
  -
  It is not just the fun bags giving you trouble.  It is the specific hip 
  to
  waist ratio that plugs into our genetic preferences.  That is what says
  fertility.  The bad news for men is that chicks have a pre-programmed
  shoulder to waist ratio that is highly unforgiving of an over fondness for 
  La
  Querche Prosciutto.  When you lose that wedge look you don't  get 
  that
  automatic head snap from the ladies anymore.  This is why I perform 
  sitting
  down!  I have discovered another formula that seems to be in play.  
  If a
  man's stomach protrusion is equalled by how far his wallet extends behind 
  him,
  he can still pull the hotties.  This ratio seems to have been instilled 
  later
  in our evolution as a species.
  -
  
  Another annoyance is the header information that gets
  put into many people's posts (including this one from
  you):
  
  
  From: curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 9:43:18 AM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Managing an attractive young woman with large
  breasts
  
  The annoyance is that it takes up the entire Message View
  snippet of text from the post.
  
  Also, posts that have this header don't have quote prefixes
  except (sometimes) one at the beginning of the paragraph
  instead of one in front of every line. The workarounds
  (e.g., Response:) that these posters insert manually to
  distinguish what they've written from what they're quoting 
  become a pain in the neck in exchanges that continue for
  several rounds. Combine that with broken lines when folks
  use word wrap, and these conversations can be almost
  impossible to read. When I want to contribute something,
  I may end up spending more time reformatting what I'm
  responding to so it's readable than actually writing.
  
  One good thing about your new approach, Bob, is that the
  type size is large enough that I don't have to squint.
  But the garbage characters are really maddening. Not only
  is it hard to read past them, they disrupt the continuity
  of the writing.
 



   


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Managing an attractive young woman with large breasts

2011-08-20 Thread Bob Price
Don’t change the subject, thats whatsnips are for, I believe we were 
discussing embracing transgenderness. 



From: Denise Evans dmevans...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 12:49:25 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Managing an attractive young woman with large 
breasts


  
Ahhh, yes...I'll put that right at the top of my priority list.  It is true, 
there is a marked absence in pictures of naked men on the FFL show - clearly an 
important missing feature. But, luckily, the lack of direct visuals is remedied 
adequately by the descriptive text of the script writers.

I am also finding that Hindu terminology and language has a sensuality to it 
best experienced from a state of ignorance. 


--- On Sat, 8/20/11, Bob Price bobpri...@yahoo.com wrote:


From: Bob Price bobpri...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Managing an attractive young woman with large 
breasts
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday,
 August 20, 2011, 12:03 PM


  
Denise,


Great to hear from you. Not sure how helpful digital TA or images of Ticker 
Bell naked might be but I would like an update
on your search for male genitalia. 


Would you agree that Tom is by far the most original voice on FFL? I’ve 
decided to suspend the “Weeks Best” as I think it would  
make him unbearable to have a string of awards to go with the string of 
shrunken progressive heads he wears so proudly.


From: Denise Evans dmevans...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 11:27:55 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Managing an attractive young woman with large 
breasts


  
Perhaps you can satiate your brain by boning up on some of Yifu's latest posts 
of mermaids.

--- On Sat, 8/20/11, John jr_...@yahoo.com wrote:


From: John jr_...@yahoo.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Managing an attractive young woman with large 
breasts
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, August 20, 2011, 11:15 AM


  
Chant the mahamantra while you're with her.  She'll stay away from you for 
sure.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote:

 You can thank Curtis for this post.
 
 
 
 I’m still interested in techniques that can be employed to better manage 
 
 the uncertainties of perception. The following describes; a situation that 
 recently put me in great perceptual uncertainty---some of the techniques I 
 might have employed to manage the uncertainty, and a request for 
 other posters 
 to share any technique suggestions they might want to post.  
 
 The wife owns her own company and summons me to her 
 office from time to time to consult for her on various commercial 
 activities. 
 Although I know she does this because of my vast experience and overall 
 brilliance,
 she claims it’s to get me away from FFL posting which appears to be causing 
 me tennis elbow (in both arms).
 
 My latest engagement was related to human resource considerations for a new 
 hire 
 and an existing staff member. Specifically, one staff member I was asked to 
 help is 
 an attractive young woman with noticeably large breasts. For background, 
 this woman graduated 
 with honours from Stanford and about 70% of the time she exceeds her 
 managers expectations 
 when executing tasks she has been delegated.  Unfortunately, for the other 
 30% of her time she 
 reverts to a Marilyn persona to distract colleagues from noticing 
 her significant screw ups. Some 
 may know the persona I’m describing---voice becomes childlike and body 
 language screams 
 “save me”. Not to digress, but I’ve often wondered why great Moms teach 
 their daughters to avoid 
 “wolves” but say nothing to their sons about catching the next plane out of 
 town when you run into 
 a damsel in distress. I can’t imagine what I could have saved being on time 
 for that plane.  
 
 In the case of the attractive young woman with large breasts---when I sat 
 down across from her in  
 her cubicle---I believe this in not uncommon with guys in this situation, I 
 employed an uncertainty management
 technique by pretending I wasn’t imagining her naked while she pretended 
 that my thinking was as professional as my behaviour. 
  I would describe my performance as not unlike being on an  MDA drip and 
 pretending its not making me that happy. The end 
 result was not only the normal unreliability of perception, but a mutual 
 non verbal agreement to lie about what was obviously 
 occurring at the time. The results are not only a type of ‘not taking the 
 reality of my perceptions too seriously---what I believe is 
 the essence of uncertainty in perceptions, but also the two of us 
 performing what Brando described to 
 Larry King as: “everyone is an actor its just that some of us get paid 
 better than others for doing it.”
 
 With a desire to be more effective, I’ve considered various techniques that 
 might 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Managing an attractive young woman with large breasts

2011-08-20 Thread Bob Price
i take back everything i said about your pithiness.



From: Tom Pall thomas.p...@gmail.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 1:18:16 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Managing an attractive young woman with large 
breasts [4 Attachments]


  
[Attachment(s) from Tom Pall included below]
On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Denise Evans dmevans...@yahoo.com wrote:




Ahhh, yes...I'll put that right at the top of my priority list.  It is true, 
there is a marked absence in pictures of naked men on the FFL show - clearly 
an important missing feature. But, luckily, the lack of direct visuals is 
remedied adequately by the descriptive text of the script writers.


I am also finding that Hindu terminology and language has a sensuality to it 
best experienced from a state of ignorance. 

 


Just whom are you calling ignorant, young lady?  You want male genitalis, here 
ya go.



http://www.globalcountry.org.uk/assets/image200727.jpg

And, for the record, depictions and descriptions of nubile females is a very 
proper thing here.







 

Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Why Obama will be Pres. again'...(Power Temptation) [1 Attachment]

2011-08-20 Thread Tom Pall
On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 4:42 PM, Robert babajii...@yahoo.com wrote:



 From my understanding of 'Why' Barack Obama is and will be President again:
 Is Because:
 He is a 'moderatiing force' in the time of 'great turmoil' , that we are
 experiencing on all levels with the coming of the year: 2012, and the end of
 the Mayan Calender, signifying the end of an old time, and the beginning of
 a 'New Time'...
 In the new time, time will begin to be experienced as proposed in
 'Einstein's Theory of Relativity'...that of being 'Flexible'...
 The inner field of the light of consciousness will be more readily
 available to the 'World dPopulation'...
 This means as 'Time' is experienced in it's relativity, more and more
 people will be encouraged to 'Follow their Heart' , or 'Follow their Bliss'
 as we see more of  the younger generation, fulfilling their hearts and souls
 this way, around the world, and further, the younger ones are establishing,
 in their hearts: Less prejudice in general to people different from them,
 but rather a curiousity about people from different cultures, backrounds and
 eithnic  values...
 As more and more of the 'Old Way' is being exhibited for it's 'Egoic
 Prejudiced Values'...only striving to preserve the 'Hoarded Wealth of the
 Rich'...
 We begin to see the 'Temptation of Power' and how it is used to as it were,
 Keep societies stuck, while only the most wealthy, proper...
 This way is coming to an end soon, and because President Obama is the one
 with the most love for his family and his nation,  and because he is the one
 who(partly because he grew up in Hawaii), that has the 'Balanced Temperment'
 and intelligence...will be elected again...
 He has avoided most of the temptations which come with the gaining of
 'Worldly Power'...
 So, in conclusion, we can see why the Republicans are having so much
 trouble finding someone to face off with President Obama...
 J.G.D.




Stand up against Obama?  Why bother?   My people will have him arrested w/o
a writ.And Jai Guru Duck to you, too.


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