[Audyssey] Audyssey thread report for September 2009
There were 242 thread titles. Here are the top 50. good news: shades of doom 36. modifying games 27. Finally! A Victory! 24. Raceway Thoughts 24. game arcades in shopping malls and cafes 23. MOTA. 23. Mysteries of the Ancients 21. a thought for all game makers out there 16. mota beta7 16. darts, anyone? 15. dragonSlayers games 15. audio wrestling game 14. MOTA beta 7 14. Why can't we get a challenging game for once? wasMOTA 14. Question about Show Down 13. something interesting in rauls' sod walk through 13. first level in Mota 12. game creation toolkit 12. About ACE Games 11. converting games 11. bug in Mysteries of the Ancients 10. the game zone 10. brain teezer 9. soul calibur - broken destiny 9. turning monitor off during pc use 9. Game Chat Reminder 8. off topic: qbasic compiler 8. SC soundpack 8. Simutronics Gemstone IV with ZMud,has anyone played this mud? 8. today games yesterday games 8. txtfl 8. big favour 7. dragon slayers games 7. Ten-Pin Alley Party. 7. the Jehovah's witnesses viewpoint ongaming:3 articles 7. atari games 6. dropbox uploads 6. final fantasy 6. Fw: Super Street Fighter 4! 6. good news shades of doom thread 6. Loan Wolf Sound Packs 6. MODA view 6. mud games and topspeed 6. purchasing sound effects libraries 6. question on sarah the game 6. Rock band unplugged playable or not? 6. Seeking testers for game creation toolkit 6. Three-D Velocity 6. Uploading 6. A sapi voice question 5. Jim Kitchen's Inc, for games that are up to 110 percent funner to play. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Audyssey babble report for September 2009
102 people posted 944 messages. 138 From, Thomas Ward. 65 From, shaun everiss. 38 From, Clement Chou. 35 From, Bryan Peterson. 35 From, Charles Rivard. 28 From, michael barnes. 25 From, dark. 23 From, Darren Harris. 23 From, Hayden Presley. 22 From, Nicol. 21 From, ChB. 19 From, Johnny Tai. 19 From, Josh. 19 From, Tristan B. 18 From, dan. 17 From, Milos Przic. 17 From, peter Mahach. 16 From, Phil Vlasak. 14 From, Hayri Tulumcu. 14 From, Matheus. 14 From, Nicol Oosthuizen. 14 From, Raul A. Gallegos. 13 From, Nick Helms. 12 From, Allan Thompson. 12 From, Allison Mervis. 12 From, Philip Bennefall. 11 From, Angellko21. 11 From, Munawar Bijani. 11 From, Yohandy. 10 From, Jim Kitchen. 9 From, william lomas. 8 From, Chastity MORSE. 8 From, Gamers Chat Robot. 8 From, mike maslo. 7 From, CSF inc.. 7 From, Liam Erven. 6 From, Ken. 6 From, Oriol Gómez. 6 From, Ryan Conroy. 6 From, Stephen. 6 From, Trouble. 5 From, Constantine. 5 From, Cory Kadlik. 5 From, Jeremy Hartley. 5 From, Kellie and my lovable Lady J.. 5 From, Robert Montowski. 5 From, Ryan Strunk. 4 From, dennis. 4 From, Gary Whittington. 4 From, James Dietz. 4 From, James Howard. 4 From, Lisa Hayes. 4 From, Louise Keel. 4 From, Pranav Lal. 4 From, Wayne Coles. 3 From, ari. 3 From, Chris Hallsworth. 3 From, Greg. 3 From, jaffar. 3 From, kev lyon. 3 From, Orin. 3 From, RONALD HOPKINS. 3 From, sal. 3 From, Scott Chesworth. 3 From, Valiant8086. 3 From, Zachary Kline. 2 From, blind Treasures. 2 From, Che. 2 From, ian mcnamara. 2 From, Jana Benscha. 2 From, Jen. 2 From, Kai. 2 From, Mauricio Almeida. 2 From, Michael Amaro. 2 From, Ryan Chou. 2 From, simon dowling. 1 From, alex wallis. 1 From, AllisonMervis. 1 From, Andy. 1 From, AudioGames.net. 1 From, Dean Masters. 1 From, Dickson Tan. 1 From, Gamers List Guidelines Robot. 1 From, Helena. 1 From, Html-man. 1 From, James Homuth. 1 From, Jason Allen. 1 From, Jerry. 1 From, Jorge Gonçalves. 1 From, Kelby Carlson. 1 From, Mich. 1 From, Michael Feir. 1 From, Nicol. 1 From, Oriol Gómez. 1 From, Ryan Smith. 1 From, stephen rogers. 1 From, The Kolesar Brothers. 1 From, tim kilgore. 1 From, Tom Randall. 1 From, tomasz tworek. 1 From, Wil James. 1 From, Yvonne Neubert. Archive file size 2756331 bytes Jim Kitchen's Inc, for games that are up to 110 percent funner to play. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Preordering was MOTABeta
I can see your point here, but unlike the one that you took the games over from. You have come out with updates and reasons why you got set back. your right a game can not be done in a day and neither was the earth. pre orders are up to you, but personally i see the head ache makes them not worth it. Just so the others know. Big game companies break out the info on the update. Just to wet your apatite and then take as long as they want on the release with no info until release. So you could be waiting six munths to over a year for more info on the game you pre paid for, and they do not answer email or letters about said games. At 08:31 PM 9/30/2009, you wrote: Hi Haden, We are currently not taking preorders for any of our games at this time. The main reason is it causes both the customers and developers too much stress. Ever since taking on both Alchemy's preorders and my own I've been frequently hounded over those games. "When will the game be released? Why is it taking so long to release the game? Can I have my money back? If you don't show me a demo of the game I paid for I'm going to take you to court." As you can see some of the inquaries can get quite nasty. What many of these ccustomers fail to realise is I can't do it all over night. It isn't my full time job, and I purely work on the games for fun in my free time. I never signed up to be a target for someone's hate mail, or to be threatened to be sued over using the sales of the preorders to buy content for the game/games in question. The also fail to realize by answering their endless nag messages is time better spent on working on said games. Hayden Presley wrote: What about USA Race Way? I'm really looking forward to that one...can you still preorder that one? Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 8:14 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] MOTA beta 7 Hi Haden, You can't. All preordering was done during the Christmas season of 2007 when I was expecting to release Montezuma's Revenge. Unfortunately my plans got screwed up when the mainstream copyright holders of that game decided to threaten me with a law suit if i didn't discontinue the product. HTH Hayden Presley wrote: And how do you preorder? Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Tim trouble Verizon FIOS support tech "Never offend people with style when you can offend them with substance." --Sam Brown Blindeudora list owner. To subscribe or info: http://www.freelists.org/webpage/blindeudora --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Preordering was MOTABeta
that doesn't sound like tom though. At 06:37 PM 1/10/2009, you wrote: I can see your point here, but unlike the one that you took the games over from. You have come out with updates and reasons why you got set back. your right a game can not be done in a day and neither was the earth. pre orders are up to you, but personally i see the head ache makes them not worth it. Just so the others know. Big game companies break out the info on the update. Just to wet your apatite and then take as long as they want on the release with no info until release. So you could be waiting six munths to over a year for more info on the game you pre paid for, and they do not answer email or letters about said games. At 08:31 PM 9/30/2009, you wrote: Hi Haden, We are currently not taking preorders for any of our games at this time. The main reason is it causes both the customers and developers too much stress. Ever since taking on both Alchemy's preorders and my own I've been frequently hounded over those games. "When will the game be released? Why is it taking so long to release the game? Can I have my money back? If you don't show me a demo of the game I paid for I'm going to take you to court." As you can see some of the inquaries can get quite nasty. What many of these ccustomers fail to realise is I can't do it all over night. It isn't my full time job, and I purely work on the games for fun in my free time. I never signed up to be a target for someone's hate mail, or to be threatened to be sued over using the sales of the preorders to buy content for the game/games in question. The also fail to realize by answering their endless nag messages is time better spent on working on said games. Hayden Presley wrote: What about USA Race Way? I'm really looking forward to that one...can you still preorder that one? Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 8:14 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] MOTA beta 7 Hi Haden, You can't. All preordering was done during the Christmas season of 2007 when I was expecting to release Montezuma's Revenge. Unfortunately my plans got screwed up when the mainstream copyright holders of that game decided to threaten me with a law suit if i didn't discontinue the product. HTH Hayden Presley wrote: And how do you preorder? Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Tim trouble Verizon FIOS support tech "Never offend people with style when you can offend them with substance." --Sam Brown Blindeudora list owner. To subscribe or info: http://www.freelists.org/webpage/blindeudora --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or
[Audyssey] Questions for all you game developers on the list
Hi All. I am in the midst of writing an accessible video game and have a few questions to ask. First up, I'd like to know which open source engine is most frequently being used by all you experienced developers, or hav you had to build a graphics and audio engine for your game from scratch? Second, I am still juggling in my mind as to whether I'll code my game in cSharp or c++. In comparison, are there any significant drawbacks or significant advantages in terms of performance and reliability if i were to choose one above the other? I am quite profficient in both, although I've taken a microsoft certified course in cSharp, whereas for c++, it has been mostly self taught. Also, if anyone of you could point me to a good tutorial on keyboard input, especially for triggering audio events, I'd really appreciate it. my last question is, if i had to resort to Microsoft's DirectX SDK for developing my game, is there a way to make the keyboard controls accessible? Any input is extremely welcomed. Cheers! and thanks --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] an online participation word game
>From my inbox: On Thursday, at 3 pm Eastern, that's 1900 Universal, I am hosting a new game on FTP which I call Word Burst. Here is a short description of the game. Word Burst Do you love to play Outburst? Do you love words? Let's put the two together and play Word Burst! Word Burst is the same as Outburst, except that you don't call out items in categories, such as Elvis hits or makes of cars. Instead, the members of each team call out anagrams of the word I will give you. So come into Games People Play and find the words within a word. Kathy Mertz If you don't have an account with FTP, go to www.for-the-people.com and sign up at no charge. It is a voice chat site with several rooms available. So hook a mike to your PC and join in on the fun. --- Shepherds are the best beasts. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Questions for all you game developers on the list
So far as I know most audio game devs don't even bother with graphics since they're totally blind or visually impaired enough that graphics wouldn't do them any good. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 9:34 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Questions for all you game developers on the list Hi All. I am in the midst of writing an accessible video game and have a few questions to ask. First up, I'd like to know which open source engine is most frequently being used by all you experienced developers, or hav you had to build a graphics and audio engine for your game from scratch? Second, I am still juggling in my mind as to whether I'll code my game in cSharp or c++. In comparison, are there any significant drawbacks or significant advantages in terms of performance and reliability if i were to choose one above the other? I am quite profficient in both, although I've taken a microsoft certified course in cSharp, whereas for c++, it has been mostly self taught. Also, if anyone of you could point me to a good tutorial on keyboard input, especially for triggering audio events, I'd really appreciate it. my last question is, if i had to resort to Microsoft's DirectX SDK for developing my game, is there a way to make the keyboard controls accessible? Any input is extremely welcomed. Cheers! and thanks --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] MOTA.
Actually it was from Bill Engvall where I got the comment about the deer as well. He mentions it in one of his CDs. Not the same one as the ball games being too easy, but in the one after I think. On 9/30/2009 9:45 PM, Bryan Peterson wrote: Raul's comment reminds me of a sketch by commedian Bill Engvall, in fact it basically was the sketch reworded and considerably shortened. He was talking about how he thought Teeball was just a dumbed down version of baseball to give kids a sport to play. And I think the remark applies just as much here. Giving people a game they could beat in a day or two or even just a week or a few weeks would be like going hunting and having someone hand you a dead deer the moment you entered the woods. -- Raul A. Gallegos http://www.asmodean.net --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Fw: You have uploaded a file (Filename: Mysteries of theAncients on the advanced difficulty level.mp3)
Hay harry Good recording man! -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Hayri Tulumcu Sent: 30 September 2009 08:46 PM To: Gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] Fw: You have uploaded a file (Filename: Mysteries of theAncients on the advanced difficulty level.mp3) - Original Message - From: sendspace To: ha...@ka-net.dk Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 8:41 PM Subject: You have uploaded a file (Filename: Mysteries of the Ancients on the advanced difficulty level.mp3) sendspace.com file upload confirmation for ha...@ka-net.dk You have successfully uploaded a file called Mysteries of the Ancients on the advanced difficulty level.mp3 (10 MB), to sendspace. You can use the following link to retrieve your file: http://www.sendspace.com/file/cp704o You can use the following link to delete your file: http://www.sendspace.com/delete/cp704o/f9c3bfb953bbde8876d102db2503975a The files may be available for a limited time only, if you are not a sendspace Max member. If you gave us a recipient's email address they have now been sent the download link. Thank you for using sendspace. If you have any questions, please visit us again at http://www.sendspace.com. sendspace.com - The best free file sharing service. - Please do not reply to this email. This auto-mailbox is not monitored and you will not receive a response. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Please Note: This email and its contents are subject to our email legal notice which can be viewed at http://www.sars.gov.za/Email_Disclaimer.pdf --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] MOTA.
It was on the album Dorkfish as I recall, and I'm pretty sure it was on that CD. I'll have to take another listen. But it does hold very true in this situation. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: "Raul A. Gallegos" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 7:46 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] MOTA. Actually it was from Bill Engvall where I got the comment about the deer as well. He mentions it in one of his CDs. Not the same one as the ball games being too easy, but in the one after I think. On 9/30/2009 9:45 PM, Bryan Peterson wrote: Raul's comment reminds me of a sketch by commedian Bill Engvall, in fact it basically was the sketch reworded and considerably shortened. He was talking about how he thought Teeball was just a dumbed down version of baseball to give kids a sport to play. And I think the remark applies just as much here. Giving people a game they could beat in a day or two or even just a week or a few weeks would be like going hunting and having someone hand you a dead deer the moment you entered the woods. -- Raul A. Gallegos http://www.asmodean.net --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Questions for all you game developers on the list
Personally I write all my things in C++. I have built my own game engine, or rather it's a large set of functions that I combine differently in each game so to speak. It can only be called an engine in the case of Bgt which obviously is not relevant here. If you want my very personal recommendation I'd say C++, since you have more flexibility later if you should want to port your games to another platform as you do not have to depend on the .net framework. If you need guidance on where to find specific things like keyboard input as you mentioned, feel free to contact me off list and I'll be more than happy to assist you in any way I can. Thanks. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 5:34 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Questions for all you game developers on the list Hi All. I am in the midst of writing an accessible video game and have a few questions to ask. First up, I'd like to know which open source engine is most frequently being used by all you experienced developers, or hav you had to build a graphics and audio engine for your game from scratch? Second, I am still juggling in my mind as to whether I'll code my game in cSharp or c++. In comparison, are there any significant drawbacks or significant advantages in terms of performance and reliability if i were to choose one above the other? I am quite profficient in both, although I've taken a microsoft certified course in cSharp, whereas for c++, it has been mostly self taught. Also, if anyone of you could point me to a good tutorial on keyboard input, especially for triggering audio events, I'd really appreciate it. my last question is, if i had to resort to Microsoft's DirectX SDK for developing my game, is there a way to make the keyboard controls accessible? Any input is extremely welcomed. Cheers! and thanks --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.14.0/2406 - Release Date: 09/30/09 18:56:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Questions for all you game developers on the list
Hi. Well, I intend to go steps further and write a commercially viable game that can be played by both the sighted and the blind. I've invested lots in learning software development, and it seems to me a huge waste of all that money if I don't put what i learn to practical use, hence my intention to write a video game which is also accessible. Cheers! - Original Message - From: "Bryan Peterson" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 9:41 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Questions for all you game developers on the list So far as I know most audio game devs don't even bother with graphics since they're totally blind or visually impaired enough that graphics wouldn't do them any good. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 9:34 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Questions for all you game developers on the list Hi All. I am in the midst of writing an accessible video game and have a few questions to ask. First up, I'd like to know which open source engine is most frequently being used by all you experienced developers, or hav you had to build a graphics and audio engine for your game from scratch? Second, I am still juggling in my mind as to whether I'll code my game in cSharp or c++. In comparison, are there any significant drawbacks or significant advantages in terms of performance and reliability if i were to choose one above the other? I am quite profficient in both, although I've taken a microsoft certified course in cSharp, whereas for c++, it has been mostly self taught. Also, if anyone of you could point me to a good tutorial on keyboard input, especially for triggering audio events, I'd really appreciate it. my last question is, if i had to resort to Microsoft's DirectX SDK for developing my game, is there a way to make the keyboard controls accessible? Any input is extremely welcomed. Cheers! and thanks --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Questions for all you game developers on the list
I applaud your efforts. This will help to close the gap between disabled and non disabled people. Financially speaking it also makes more sense to developer a good accessible game that everybody can play, because when selling it more people can enjoy it and so you will sell more copies. jaf...@ecstatico.net wrote: Hi. Well, I intend to go steps further and write a commercially viable game that can be played by both the sighted and the blind. I've invested lots in learning software development, and it seems to me a huge waste of all that money if I don't put what i learn to practical use, hence my intention to write a video game which is also accessible. Cheers! - Original Message - From: "Bryan Peterson" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 9:41 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Questions for all you game developers on the list So far as I know most audio game devs don't even bother with graphics since they're totally blind or visually impaired enough that graphics wouldn't do them any good. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 9:34 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Questions for all you game developers on the list Hi All. I am in the midst of writing an accessible video game and have a few questions to ask. First up, I'd like to know which open source engine is most frequently being used by all you experienced developers, or hav you had to build a graphics and audio engine for your game from scratch? Second, I am still juggling in my mind as to whether I'll code my game in cSharp or c++. In comparison, are there any significant drawbacks or significant advantages in terms of performance and reliability if i were to choose one above the other? I am quite profficient in both, although I've taken a microsoft certified course in cSharp, whereas for c++, it has been mostly self taught. Also, if anyone of you could point me to a good tutorial on keyboard input, especially for triggering audio events, I'd really appreciate it. my last question is, if i had to resort to Microsoft's DirectX SDK for developing my game, is there a way to make the keyboard controls accessible? Any input is extremely welcomed. Cheers! and thanks --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Questions for all you game developers on the list
Well that could be a tall order given a lot of people's attitudes about the difficulty of games. A game that's challenging enough to keep a sighted person's interest is apparently too hard for a lot of blind folks. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 8:35 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Questions for all you game developers on the list Hi. Well, I intend to go steps further and write a commercially viable game that can be played by both the sighted and the blind. I've invested lots in learning software development, and it seems to me a huge waste of all that money if I don't put what i learn to practical use, hence my intention to write a video game which is also accessible. Cheers! - Original Message - From: "Bryan Peterson" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 9:41 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Questions for all you game developers on the list So far as I know most audio game devs don't even bother with graphics since they're totally blind or visually impaired enough that graphics wouldn't do them any good. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 9:34 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Questions for all you game developers on the list Hi All. I am in the midst of writing an accessible video game and have a few questions to ask. First up, I'd like to know which open source engine is most frequently being used by all you experienced developers, or hav you had to build a graphics and audio engine for your game from scratch? Second, I am still juggling in my mind as to whether I'll code my game in cSharp or c++. In comparison, are there any significant drawbacks or significant advantages in terms of performance and reliability if i were to choose one above the other? I am quite profficient in both, although I've taken a microsoft certified course in cSharp, whereas for c++, it has been mostly self taught. Also, if anyone of you could point me to a good tutorial on keyboard input, especially for triggering audio events, I'd really appreciate it. my last question is, if i had to resort to Microsoft's DirectX SDK for developing my game, is there a way to make the keyboard controls accessible? Any input is extremely welcomed. Cheers! and thanks --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Questions for all you game developers on the list
For the record, *EVERYONE* complains about difficulty. I don't think it's fair to pin this specifically on blind people, fun as it may be to do so. On 10/1/09, Bryan Peterson wrote: > Well that could be a tall order given a lot of people's attitudes about the > difficulty of games. A game that's challenging enough to keep a sighted > person's interest is apparently too hard for a lot of blind folks. > Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? > Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. > - Original Message - > From: > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 8:35 AM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Questions for all you game developers on the list > > >> Hi. Well, I intend to go steps further and write a commercially viable >> game that can be played by both the sighted and the blind. I've invested >> lots in learning software development, and it seems to me a huge waste of >> all that money if I don't put what i learn to practical use, hence my >> intention to write a video game which is also accessible. Cheers! >> - Original Message - >> From: "Bryan Peterson" >> To: "Gamers Discussion list" >> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 9:41 PM >> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Questions for all you game developers on the list >> >> >>> So far as I know most audio game devs don't even bother with graphics >>> since they're totally blind or visually impaired enough that graphics >>> wouldn't do them any good. >>> Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of >>> pizza? >>> Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. >>> - Original Message - >>> From: >>> To: "Gamers Discussion list" >>> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 9:34 PM >>> Subject: [Audyssey] Questions for all you game developers on the list >>> >>> Hi All. I am in the midst of writing an accessible video game and have a few questions to ask. First up, I'd like to know which open source engine is most frequently being used by all you experienced developers, or hav you had to build a graphics and audio engine for your game from scratch? Second, I am still juggling in my mind as to whether I'll code my game in cSharp or c++. In comparison, are there any significant drawbacks or significant advantages in terms of performance and reliability if i were to choose one above the other? I am quite profficient in both, although I've taken a microsoft certified course in cSharp, whereas for c++, it has been mostly self taught. Also, if anyone of you could point me to a good tutorial on keyboard input, especially for triggering audio events, I'd really appreciate it. my last question is, if i had to resort to Microsoft's DirectX SDK for developing my game, is there a way to make the keyboard controls accessible? Any input is extremely welcomed. Cheers! and thanks --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >>> >>> >>> --- >>> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >>> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >>> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >>> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >>> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >>> list, >>> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >> >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >> list, >> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the ma
Re: [Audyssey] Questions for all you game developers on the list
It certainly seems much more noticeable in the blind community than I've ever heard from sighted folks. That's all I'm saying. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: "James Dietz" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 10:01 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Questions for all you game developers on the list For the record, *EVERYONE* complains about difficulty. I don't think it's fair to pin this specifically on blind people, fun as it may be to do so. On 10/1/09, Bryan Peterson wrote: Well that could be a tall order given a lot of people's attitudes about the difficulty of games. A game that's challenging enough to keep a sighted person's interest is apparently too hard for a lot of blind folks. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 8:35 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Questions for all you game developers on the list Hi. Well, I intend to go steps further and write a commercially viable game that can be played by both the sighted and the blind. I've invested lots in learning software development, and it seems to me a huge waste of all that money if I don't put what i learn to practical use, hence my intention to write a video game which is also accessible. Cheers! - Original Message - From: "Bryan Peterson" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 9:41 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Questions for all you game developers on the list So far as I know most audio game devs don't even bother with graphics since they're totally blind or visually impaired enough that graphics wouldn't do them any good. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 9:34 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Questions for all you game developers on the list Hi All. I am in the midst of writing an accessible video game and have a few questions to ask. First up, I'd like to know which open source engine is most frequently being used by all you experienced developers, or hav you had to build a graphics and audio engine for your game from scratch? Second, I am still juggling in my mind as to whether I'll code my game in cSharp or c++. In comparison, are there any significant drawbacks or significant advantages in terms of performance and reliability if i were to choose one above the other? I am quite profficient in both, although I've taken a microsoft certified course in cSharp, whereas for c++, it has been mostly self taught. Also, if anyone of you could point me to a good tutorial on keyboard input, especially for triggering audio events, I'd really appreciate it. my last question is, if i had to resort to Microsoft's DirectX SDK for developing my game, is there a way to make the keyboard controls accessible? Any input is extremely welcomed. Cheers! and thanks --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audy
Re: [Audyssey] Questions for all you game developers on the list
There will always be people that are ready to get out of their comfort zone and try and be good at a game. The people who find it to hard or want to stick to the usual games can do that if they want. I'm sure blind people will not be the biggest share of his audience Bryan Peterson wrote: Well that could be a tall order given a lot of people's attitudes about the difficulty of games. A game that's challenging enough to keep a sighted person's interest is apparently too hard for a lot of blind folks. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 8:35 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Questions for all you game developers on the list Hi. Well, I intend to go steps further and write a commercially viable game that can be played by both the sighted and the blind. I've invested lots in learning software development, and it seems to me a huge waste of all that money if I don't put what i learn to practical use, hence my intention to write a video game which is also accessible. Cheers! - Original Message - From: "Bryan Peterson" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 9:41 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Questions for all you game developers on the list So far as I know most audio game devs don't even bother with graphics since they're totally blind or visually impaired enough that graphics wouldn't do them any good. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 9:34 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Questions for all you game developers on the list Hi All. I am in the midst of writing an accessible video game and have a few questions to ask. First up, I'd like to know which open source engine is most frequently being used by all you experienced developers, or hav you had to build a graphics and audio engine for your game from scratch? Second, I am still juggling in my mind as to whether I'll code my game in cSharp or c++. In comparison, are there any significant drawbacks or significant advantages in terms of performance and reliability if i were to choose one above the other? I am quite profficient in both, although I've taken a microsoft certified course in cSharp, whereas for c++, it has been mostly self taught. Also, if anyone of you could point me to a good tutorial on keyboard input, especially for triggering audio events, I'd really appreciate it. my last question is, if i had to resort to Microsoft's DirectX SDK for developing my game, is there a way to make the keyboard controls accessible? Any input is extremely welcomed. Cheers! and thanks --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your
Re: [Audyssey] Saving game penalty
I'm in favor of a Monkey Business-style system, where you start at the beginning of the last level you reached. After listening to someone's recording I think this is most appropriate. On 10/1/09, shaun everiss wrote: > thats to much phill. > I don't save often I try to only save if I pass a hard obsticle. > At 05:19 p.m. 1/10/2009, you wrote: >>Hi folks, >>How about having a penalty to saving the MOTA game. >>Each time you save the game 1 percent is taken away from your health. >>So even with a healing potion, you would only go back to 99 percent if you >> saved the game once. >>For example if you saved the game 20 times your maximum health would be 80 >> and could go no higher. >>So if you save the game 50 times you would only have half of your health >> and could be killed much easier. >>This would take away the addiction of saving the game at each door. >>Of course maybe if you got that magic orb you would be restored to full >> health. >>Phil >> >>--- >>Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >>If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >>You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >>If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >>please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Questions for all you game developers on the list
If it is a game for both blind and sighted, graphics would be a good thing. --- Shepherds are the best beasts. - Original Message - From: "Bryan Peterson" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 6:41 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Questions for all you game developers on the list So far as I know most audio game devs don't even bother with graphics since they're totally blind or visually impaired enough that graphics wouldn't do them any good. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 9:34 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Questions for all you game developers on the list Hi All. I am in the midst of writing an accessible video game and have a few questions to ask. First up, I'd like to know which open source engine is most frequently being used by all you experienced developers, or hav you had to build a graphics and audio engine for your game from scratch? Second, I am still juggling in my mind as to whether I'll code my game in cSharp or c++. In comparison, are there any significant drawbacks or significant advantages in terms of performance and reliability if i were to choose one above the other? I am quite profficient in both, although I've taken a microsoft certified course in cSharp, whereas for c++, it has been mostly self taught. Also, if anyone of you could point me to a good tutorial on keyboard input, especially for triggering audio events, I'd really appreciate it. my last question is, if i had to resort to Microsoft's DirectX SDK for developing my game, is there a way to make the keyboard controls accessible? Any input is extremely welcomed. Cheers! and thanks --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Questions for all you game developers on the list
what type of game is it? On 1 Oct 2009, at 19:40, Charles Rivard wrote: If it is a game for both blind and sighted, graphics would be a good thing. --- Shepherds are the best beasts. - Original Message - From: "Bryan Peterson" > To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 6:41 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Questions for all you game developers on the list So far as I know most audio game devs don't even bother with graphics since they're totally blind or visually impaired enough that graphics wouldn't do them any good. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 9:34 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Questions for all you game developers on the list Hi All. I am in the midst of writing an accessible video game and have a few questions to ask. First up, I'd like to know which open source engine is most frequently being used by all you experienced developers, or hav you had to build a graphics and audio engine for your game from scratch? Second, I am still juggling in my mind as to whether I'll code my game in cSharp or c++. In comparison, are there any significant drawbacks or significant advantages in terms of performance and reliability if i were to choose one above the other? I am quite profficient in both, although I've taken a microsoft certified course in cSharp, whereas for c++, it has been mostly self taught. Also, if anyone of you could point me to a good tutorial on keyboard input, especially for triggering audio events, I'd really appreciate it. my last question is, if i had to resort to Microsoft's DirectX SDK for developing my game, is there a way to make the keyboard controls accessible? Any input is extremely welcomed. Cheers! and thanks --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org . You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org . You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org . You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Questions for all you game developers on the list
but the blind have only had arcade type games no FPS or anything But the more challenge the better in my view On 1 Oct 2009, at 17:06, Bryan Peterson wrote: It certainly seems much more noticeable in the blind community than I've ever heard from sighted folks. That's all I'm saying. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: "James Dietz" > To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 10:01 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Questions for all you game developers on the list For the record, *EVERYONE* complains about difficulty. I don't think it's fair to pin this specifically on blind people, fun as it may be to do so. On 10/1/09, Bryan Peterson wrote: Well that could be a tall order given a lot of people's attitudes about the difficulty of games. A game that's challenging enough to keep a sighted person's interest is apparently too hard for a lot of blind folks. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 8:35 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Questions for all you game developers on the list Hi. Well, I intend to go steps further and write a commercially viable game that can be played by both the sighted and the blind. I've invested lots in learning software development, and it seems to me a huge waste of all that money if I don't put what i learn to practical use, hence my intention to write a video game which is also accessible. Cheers! - Original Message - From: "Bryan Peterson" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 9:41 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Questions for all you game developers on the list So far as I know most audio game devs don't even bother with graphics since they're totally blind or visually impaired enough that graphics wouldn't do them any good. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 9:34 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Questions for all you game developers on the list Hi All. I am in the midst of writing an accessible video game and have a few questions to ask. First up, I'd like to know which open source engine is most frequently being used by all you experienced developers, or hav you had to build a graphics and audio engine for your game from scratch? Second, I am still juggling in my mind as to whether I'll code my game in cSharp or c++. In comparison, are there any significant drawbacks or significant advantages in terms of performance and reliability if i were to choose one above the other? I am quite profficient in both, although I've taken a microsoft certified course in cSharp, whereas for c++, it has been mostly self taught. Also, if anyone of you could point me to a good tutorial on keyboard input, especially for triggering audio events, I'd really appreciate it. my last question is, if i had to resort to Microsoft's DirectX SDK for developing my game, is there a way to make the keyboard controls accessible? Any input is extremely welcomed. Cheers! and thanks --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Questions for all you game developers on the list
Hi Will. It's an adventure game very loosely based on treasure island by robert louis stevenson. I could have chosen to make just an audio version of it, but I am trying to get a share of the games market and put all that programming skills I've studied and paid for to good use. I think that we must try to get out of our comfort zone sometimes and try something new. After all, we are living in a world full of sighted folk, and we must do our best to get along side them and not confine ourselves to our own world. Cheers! - Original Message - From: "william lomas" To: "Charles Rivard" ; "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 12:41 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Questions for all you game developers on the list what type of game is it? On 1 Oct 2009, at 19:40, Charles Rivard wrote: If it is a game for both blind and sighted, graphics would be a good thing. --- Shepherds are the best beasts. - Original Message - From: "Bryan Peterson" > To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 6:41 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Questions for all you game developers on the list So far as I know most audio game devs don't even bother with graphics since they're totally blind or visually impaired enough that graphics wouldn't do them any good. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 9:34 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Questions for all you game developers on the list Hi All. I am in the midst of writing an accessible video game and have a few questions to ask. First up, I'd like to know which open source engine is most frequently being used by all you experienced developers, or hav you had to build a graphics and audio engine for your game from scratch? Second, I am still juggling in my mind as to whether I'll code my game in cSharp or c++. In comparison, are there any significant drawbacks or significant advantages in terms of performance and reliability if i were to choose one above the other? I am quite profficient in both, although I've taken a microsoft certified course in cSharp, whereas for c++, it has been mostly self taught. Also, if anyone of you could point me to a good tutorial on keyboard input, especially for triggering audio events, I'd really appreciate it. my last question is, if i had to resort to Microsoft's DirectX SDK for developing my game, is there a way to make the keyboard controls accessible? Any input is extremely welcomed. Cheers! and thanks --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org . You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org . You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org . You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any qu
[Audyssey] the sl maxpayne mod
Hey all, some time ago someone posted a mod for superliam with max payne Does anyone still have it? thx --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Questions for all you game developers on the list
I don't think the people are on the list but I know pininteractive that made teraformas used flash, you may have to contact them though and ask. Some on audiogames.net forums may help I know some suff is made there. At 04:34 p.m. 30/09/2009, you wrote: >Hi All. I am in the midst of writing an accessible video game and have a few >questions >to ask. First up, I'd like to know which open source engine is most >frequently being >used by all you experienced developers, or hav you had to build a graphics and >audio >engine for your game from scratch? Second, I am still juggling in my mind as >to >whether I'll code my game in cSharp or c++. In comparison, are there any >significant >drawbacks or significant advantages in terms of performance and reliability if >i >were to choose one above the other? I am quite profficient in both, although >I've >taken a microsoft certified course in cSharp, whereas for c++, it has been >mostly >self taught. Also, if anyone of you could point me to a good tutorial on >keyboard >input, especially for triggering audio events, I'd really appreciate it. my >last >question is, if i had to resort to Microsoft's DirectX SDK for developing my >game, >is there a way to make the keyboard controls accessible? Any input is >extremely >welcomed. Cheers! and thanks >--- >Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Questions for all you game developers on the list
well there are hybrids, just not many, if you can do one I am all for it. At 03:35 a.m. 2/10/2009, you wrote: >Hi. Well, I intend to go steps further and write a commercially viable game >that can be played by both the sighted and the blind. I've invested lots in >learning software development, and it seems to me a huge waste of all that >money if I don't put what i learn to practical use, hence my intention to >write a video game which is also accessible. Cheers! >- Original Message - From: "Bryan Peterson" > >To: "Gamers Discussion list" >Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 9:41 PM >Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Questions for all you game developers on the list > > >>So far as I know most audio game devs don't even bother with graphics since >>they're totally blind or visually impaired enough that graphics wouldn't do >>them any good. >>Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? >>Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. >>- Original Message - From: >>To: "Gamers Discussion list" >>Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 9:34 PM >>Subject: [Audyssey] Questions for all you game developers on the list >> >> >>>Hi All. I am in the midst of writing an accessible video game and have a >>>few questions >>>to ask. First up, I'd like to know which open source engine is most >>>frequently being >>>used by all you experienced developers, or hav you had to build a graphics >>>and audio >>>engine for your game from scratch? Second, I am still juggling in my mind >>>as to >>>whether I'll code my game in cSharp or c++. In comparison, are there any >>>significant >>>drawbacks or significant advantages in terms of performance and reliability >>>if i >>>were to choose one above the other? I am quite profficient in both, >>>although I've >>>taken a microsoft certified course in cSharp, whereas for c++, it has been >>>mostly >>>self taught. Also, if anyone of you could point me to a good tutorial on >>>keyboard >>>input, especially for triggering audio events, I'd really appreciate it. my >>>last >>>question is, if i had to resort to Microsoft's DirectX SDK for developing my >>>game, >>>is there a way to make the keyboard controls accessible? Any input is >>>extremely >>>welcomed. Cheers! and thanks >>>--- >>>Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >>>If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >>>gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >>>You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>>http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>>All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>>http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >>>If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >>>please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >> >> >>--- >>Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >>If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >>You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >>If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >>please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > >--- >Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Questions for all you game developers on the list
h well Right now it is, but tom has been one of the only devs that has actually attempted to get there. There have been other projects ofcause audioquake, teraformas, and last crusade to name a few but none as complex as this. I am looking foreward to the new vid game jafa is doing, tried to do viceover things but I just can't do stuff on the spot, without lines, I'll gladly do testing on this. At 04:34 a.m. 2/10/2009, you wrote: >Well that could be a tall order given a lot of people's attitudes about the >difficulty of games. A game that's challenging enough to keep a sighted >person's interest is apparently too hard for a lot of blind folks. >Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? >Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. >- Original Message - From: >To: "Gamers Discussion list" >Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 8:35 AM >Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Questions for all you game developers on the list > > >>Hi. Well, I intend to go steps further and write a commercially viable game >>that can be played by both the sighted and the blind. I've invested lots in >>learning software development, and it seems to me a huge waste of all that >>money if I don't put what i learn to practical use, hence my intention to >>write a video game which is also accessible. Cheers! >>- Original Message - From: "Bryan Peterson" >> >>To: "Gamers Discussion list" >>Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 9:41 PM >>Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Questions for all you game developers on the list >> >> >>>So far as I know most audio game devs don't even bother with graphics since >>>they're totally blind or visually impaired enough that graphics wouldn't do >>>them any good. >>>Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? >>>Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. >>>- Original Message - From: >>>To: "Gamers Discussion list" >>>Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 9:34 PM >>>Subject: [Audyssey] Questions for all you game developers on the list >>> >>> Hi All. I am in the midst of writing an accessible video game and have a few questions to ask. First up, I'd like to know which open source engine is most frequently being used by all you experienced developers, or hav you had to build a graphics and audio engine for your game from scratch? Second, I am still juggling in my mind as to whether I'll code my game in cSharp or c++. In comparison, are there any significant drawbacks or significant advantages in terms of performance and reliability if i were to choose one above the other? I am quite profficient in both, although I've taken a microsoft certified course in cSharp, whereas for c++, it has been mostly self taught. Also, if anyone of you could point me to a good tutorial on keyboard input, especially for triggering audio events, I'd really appreciate it. my last question is, if i had to resort to Microsoft's DirectX SDK for developing my game, is there a way to make the keyboard controls accessible? Any input is extremely welcomed. Cheers! and thanks --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >>> >>> >>>--- >>>Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >>>If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >>>gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >>>You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>>http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>>All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>>http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >>>If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >>>please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >> >> >>--- >>Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >>If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >>You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >>If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >>please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > >--- >Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >Al
Re: [Audyssey] Questions for all you game developers on the list
we have had sod but yeah arcade is mostly all we have had. Easy stuff. The sighted are just always going to be ahead, looks like the gap is closing. At 05:42 a.m. 2/10/2009, you wrote: >but the blind have only had arcade type games no FPS or anything >But the more challenge the better in my view > >On 1 Oct 2009, at 17:06, Bryan Peterson wrote: > >>It certainly seems much more noticeable in the blind community than >>I've ever heard from sighted folks. That's all I'm saying. >>Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of >>pizza? >>Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. >>- Original Message - From: "James Dietz" >>To: "Gamers Discussion list" >>Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 10:01 AM >>Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Questions for all you game developers on the >>list >> >> >>>For the record, *EVERYONE* complains about difficulty. I don't think >>>it's fair to pin this specifically on blind people, fun as it may be >>>to do so. >>> >>>On 10/1/09, Bryan Peterson wrote: Well that could be a tall order given a lot of people's attitudes about the difficulty of games. A game that's challenging enough to keep a sighted person's interest is apparently too hard for a lot of blind folks. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 8:35 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Questions for all you game developers on the list >Hi. Well, I intend to go steps further and write a commercially >viable >game that can be played by both the sighted and the blind. I've >invested >lots in learning software development, and it seems to me a huge >waste of >all that money if I don't put what i learn to practical use, >hence my >intention to write a video game which is also accessible. Cheers! >- Original Message - >From: "Bryan Peterson" >To: "Gamers Discussion list" >Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 9:41 PM >Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Questions for all you game developers on >the list > > >>So far as I know most audio game devs don't even bother with >>graphics >>since they're totally blind or visually impaired enough that >>graphics >>wouldn't do them any good. >>Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a >>slice of >>pizza? >>Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. >>- Original Message - >>From: >>To: "Gamers Discussion list" >>Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 9:34 PM >>Subject: [Audyssey] Questions for all you game developers on the >>list >> >> >>>Hi All. I am in the midst of writing an accessible video game >>>and have >>>a few questions >>>to ask. First up, I'd like to know which open source engine is >>>most >>>frequently being >>>used by all you experienced developers, or hav you had to build a >>>graphics and audio >>>engine for your game from scratch? Second, I am still juggling >>>in my >>>mind as to >>>whether I'll code my game in cSharp or c++. In comparison, are >>>there >>>any significant >>>drawbacks or significant advantages in terms of performance and >>>reliability if i >>>were to choose one above the other? I am quite profficient in >>>both, >>>although I've >>>taken a microsoft certified course in cSharp, whereas for c++, >>>it has >>>been mostly >>>self taught. Also, if anyone of you could point me to a good >>>tutorial >>>on keyboard >>>input, especially for triggering audio events, I'd really >>>appreciate it. >>> >>>my last >>>question is, if i had to resort to Microsoft's DirectX SDK for >>>developing my game, >>>is there a way to make the keyboard controls accessible? Any >>>input is >>>extremely >>>welcomed. Cheers! and thanks >>>--- >>>Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >>>If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >>>gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >>>You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>>http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>>All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>>http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >>>If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management >>>of the >>>list, >>>please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >> >> >>--- >>Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >>If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >>gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >>You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>All messages
Re: [Audyssey] Questions for all you game developers on the list
Hi Shawn. If you are keen to do voice acting for my game, then write me privately and I'll send you some text to try out. Cheers! - Original Message - From: "shaun everiss" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 1:59 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Questions for all you game developers on the list h well Right now it is, but tom has been one of the only devs that has actually attempted to get there. There have been other projects ofcause audioquake, teraformas, and last crusade to name a few but none as complex as this. I am looking foreward to the new vid game jafa is doing, tried to do viceover things but I just can't do stuff on the spot, without lines, I'll gladly do testing on this. At 04:34 a.m. 2/10/2009, you wrote: Well that could be a tall order given a lot of people's attitudes about the difficulty of games. A game that's challenging enough to keep a sighted person's interest is apparently too hard for a lot of blind folks. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 8:35 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Questions for all you game developers on the list Hi. Well, I intend to go steps further and write a commercially viable game that can be played by both the sighted and the blind. I've invested lots in learning software development, and it seems to me a huge waste of all that money if I don't put what i learn to practical use, hence my intention to write a video game which is also accessible. Cheers! - Original Message - From: "Bryan Peterson" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 9:41 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Questions for all you game developers on the list So far as I know most audio game devs don't even bother with graphics since they're totally blind or visually impaired enough that graphics wouldn't do them any good. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 9:34 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Questions for all you game developers on the list Hi All. I am in the midst of writing an accessible video game and have a few questions to ask. First up, I'd like to know which open source engine is most frequently being used by all you experienced developers, or hav you had to build a graphics and audio engine for your game from scratch? Second, I am still juggling in my mind as to whether I'll code my game in cSharp or c++. In comparison, are there any significant drawbacks or significant advantages in terms of performance and reliability if i were to choose one above the other? I am quite profficient in both, although I've taken a microsoft certified course in cSharp, whereas for c++, it has been mostly self taught. Also, if anyone of you could point me to a good tutorial on keyboard input, especially for triggering audio events, I'd really appreciate it. my last question is, if i had to resort to Microsoft's DirectX SDK for developing my game, is there a way to make the keyboard controls accessible? Any input is extremely welcomed. Cheers! and thanks --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscripti
[Audyssey] still have opening for voice actors
Hi folks. There is still lots of opening for voice actors for my game. If you are interested, send me a private email and I'll send over some text for you to record for me. Jim hawkins has been takemn. Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] the sl maxpayne mod
yes i have it but remember to delete the following in the program parth: c:\programmer it wil be the following c:\program files - Original Message - From: "Oriol Gómez" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 7:11 PM Subject: [Audyssey] the sl maxpayne mod Hey all, some time ago someone posted a mod for superliam with max payne Does anyone still have it? thx --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Questions for all you game developers on the list
aah ok, I'll do that. I tried to make my own stuff as sample but need lines, I'll send you a email. At 07:16 a.m. 2/10/2009, you wrote: >Hi Shawn. If you are keen to do voice acting for my game, then write me >privately and I'll send you some text to try out. Cheers! >- Original Message - From: "shaun everiss" >To: "Gamers Discussion list" >Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 1:59 AM >Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Questions for all you game developers on the list > > >>h well Right now it is, but tom has been one of the only devs that has >>actually attempted to get there. >>There have been other projects ofcause audioquake, teraformas, and last >>crusade to name a few but none as complex as this. >>I am looking foreward to the new vid game jafa is doing, tried to do viceover >>things but I just can't do stuff on the spot, without lines, I'll gladly do >>testing on this. >>At 04:34 a.m. 2/10/2009, you wrote: >>>Well that could be a tall order given a lot of people's attitudes about the >>>difficulty of games. A game that's challenging enough to keep a sighted >>>person's interest is apparently too hard for a lot of blind folks. >>>Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? >>>Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. >>>- Original Message - From: >>>To: "Gamers Discussion list" >>>Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 8:35 AM >>>Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Questions for all you game developers on the list >>> >>> Hi. Well, I intend to go steps further and write a commercially viable game that can be played by both the sighted and the blind. I've invested lots in learning software development, and it seems to me a huge waste of all that money if I don't put what i learn to practical use, hence my intention to write a video game which is also accessible. Cheers! - Original Message - From: "Bryan Peterson" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 9:41 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Questions for all you game developers on the list >So far as I know most audio game devs don't even bother with graphics >since they're totally blind or visually impaired enough that graphics >wouldn't do them any good. >Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? >Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. >- Original Message - From: >To: "Gamers Discussion list" >Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 9:34 PM >Subject: [Audyssey] Questions for all you game developers on the list > > >>Hi All. I am in the midst of writing an accessible video game and have a >>few questions >>to ask. First up, I'd like to know which open source engine is most >>frequently being >>used by all you experienced developers, or hav you had to build a >>graphics and audio >>engine for your game from scratch? Second, I am still juggling in my >>mind as to >>whether I'll code my game in cSharp or c++. In comparison, are there any >>significant >>drawbacks or significant advantages in terms of performance and >>reliability if i >>were to choose one above the other? I am quite profficient in both, >>although I've >>taken a microsoft certified course in cSharp, whereas for c++, it has >>been mostly >>self taught. Also, if anyone of you could point me to a good tutorial on >>keyboard >>input, especially for triggering audio events, I'd really appreciate it. >>my last >>question is, if i had to resort to Microsoft's DirectX SDK for developing >>my game, >>is there a way to make the keyboard controls accessible? Any input is >>extremely >>welcomed. Cheers! and thanks >>--- >>Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >>If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >>gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >>You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >>If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >>list, >>please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > >--- >Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-m
Re: [Audyssey] Why can't we get a challenging game for once? wasMOTA
I agree. I think we should only have the saving feature enabled at the beginning of each level. or at least half way through it - Original Message - From: "Phil Vlasak" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 12:05 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Why can't we get a challenging game for once? wasMOTA Hi Johnny, I have an aversion to saving my game as I consider it is a way to turn a very difficult game to a too easy one jus by saving before each encounter. I think the idea of saving games is worse than giving you all the weapons in the beginning. If an attack is based on a random number such as a 20 sided dice, then you could roll the dice as many times as you need to get the magic 20 and kill the creature by saving the game before each attack. Phil - Original Message - From: "Johnny Tai" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 11:08 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Why can't we get a challenging game for once? wasMOTA Okay, beat it...ended up having to cheat by saving game before each door and if health dropped too low, went back to saved game and try again... I was really hoping to be able to win without resorting to that rofl- it always make me feel a bit cheap to do that. "No one ever kicked ass by saying I can't." Johnny ST Tai LIVE AND WALK WITH CONFIDENCE. Interpersonal and Social Relationship Counselling-also offering private, one on one self defense training- call or email to book your appointment today! johnnyti...@shaw.ca 1-604-275-2795 Listen to, or buy our music at: http://www.musicsubmit.com/thecat http://www.cdbaby.com/thecat http://www.mynoisyplanet.com/TheCAT. http://www.rhythmqwest.com/TheCat http://www.cdbaby.com/thecat2 The king who stands poised With claws and fangs, eyes ablaze... The hunt has begun. -Haiku by Johnny Tai - Original Message - From: "Clement Chou" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 12:13 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Why can't we get a challenging game for once? wasMOTA I agree on this front... I can't tell you the number of times I've walked away from Mota frustrated and wishing I had a real sword to hack something with. lol. But in all honesty, people need to find a balance. You folks complain about a game being too easy, but when Mota comes along turn around and say it's too hard. Good thing a lot of people here haven't played Invincible Tiger: the legend of Han tao... Mota looks really, really easy compared. lol. - Original Message - From: "Bryan Peterson" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 12:05 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Why can't we get a challenging game for once? wasMOTA I beat Treasure Hunt from BPC in less than a day, so I can attest to that. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: "Ryan Strunk" To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 12:25 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Why can't we get a challenging game for once? wasMOTA Amen! Nothing is more discouraging than spending $30 on a game and beating it in a day or two. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Yohandy Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 1:10 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Why can't we get a challenging game for once? wasMOTA Why can't those of us that actually want a tough game finally get one? Why is it that people are always looking for the easy way out? This seems to happen in the audiogame market a lot and it frustrates me. If thomas makes his games extremely easy and you beat it in an hour, you'll feel good for about 5 minutes then forget all about the game. do you guys have any clue the sort of games sighted gamers play? we want devs to make mainstream games accessible, but if we keep complaining that a game is too hard, then they're just gonna laugh at us and ignore us like they've been doing all these years. I personally love challenge. It's why I got the Mortal Kombat vs dc universe platinum, and why I'm working hard on the Street Fighter IV one. TO my knowledge I'm the first blind person to get that platinum and it feels darn good. There's nothing as frustrating as those combo challenges, but I finally did it! If you guys don't want a hard game, then fine, don't buy it. but please let the rest of us enjoy a challenge for once. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please
Re: [Audyssey] Why can't we get a challenging game for once? wasMOTA
A worthy ambition, but given the increased difficulty I have a feeling that if Thomas did that he'd live to regret it. Here's a concept. If ya don't like a given feature of a game, ya don't have to use it. Not trying to be offensive here but that's how I feel. Quite frankly I'm greatful to have the option to save at any point or I probably would have lost patience with the new Beta. And as I grow more comfortable I use it less anyways, usually only right before the boss if I decide I'm going to try to bring him down. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: "Yohandy" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:53 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Why can't we get a challenging game for once? wasMOTA I agree. I think we should only have the saving feature enabled at the beginning of each level. or at least half way through it - Original Message - From: "Phil Vlasak" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 12:05 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Why can't we get a challenging game for once? wasMOTA Hi Johnny, I have an aversion to saving my game as I consider it is a way to turn a very difficult game to a too easy one jus by saving before each encounter. I think the idea of saving games is worse than giving you all the weapons in the beginning. If an attack is based on a random number such as a 20 sided dice, then you could roll the dice as many times as you need to get the magic 20 and kill the creature by saving the game before each attack. Phil - Original Message - From: "Johnny Tai" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 11:08 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Why can't we get a challenging game for once? wasMOTA Okay, beat it...ended up having to cheat by saving game before each door and if health dropped too low, went back to saved game and try again... I was really hoping to be able to win without resorting to that rofl- it always make me feel a bit cheap to do that. "No one ever kicked ass by saying I can't." Johnny ST Tai LIVE AND WALK WITH CONFIDENCE. Interpersonal and Social Relationship Counselling-also offering private, one on one self defense training- call or email to book your appointment today! johnnyti...@shaw.ca 1-604-275-2795 Listen to, or buy our music at: http://www.musicsubmit.com/thecat http://www.cdbaby.com/thecat http://www.mynoisyplanet.com/TheCAT. http://www.rhythmqwest.com/TheCat http://www.cdbaby.com/thecat2 The king who stands poised With claws and fangs, eyes ablaze... The hunt has begun. -Haiku by Johnny Tai - Original Message - From: "Clement Chou" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 12:13 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Why can't we get a challenging game for once? wasMOTA I agree on this front... I can't tell you the number of times I've walked away from Mota frustrated and wishing I had a real sword to hack something with. lol. But in all honesty, people need to find a balance. You folks complain about a game being too easy, but when Mota comes along turn around and say it's too hard. Good thing a lot of people here haven't played Invincible Tiger: the legend of Han tao... Mota looks really, really easy compared. lol. - Original Message - From: "Bryan Peterson" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 12:05 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Why can't we get a challenging game for once? wasMOTA I beat Treasure Hunt from BPC in less than a day, so I can attest to that. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: "Ryan Strunk" To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 12:25 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Why can't we get a challenging game for once? wasMOTA Amen! Nothing is more discouraging than spending $30 on a game and beating it in a day or two. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Yohandy Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 1:10 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Why can't we get a challenging game for once? wasMOTA Why can't those of us that actually want a tough game finally get one? Why is it that people are always looking for the easy way out? This seems to happen in the audiogame market a lot and it frustrates me. If thomas makes his games extremely easy and you beat it in an hour, you'll feel good for about 5 minutes then forget all about the game. do you guys have any clue the sort of games sighted gamers play? we want devs to make mainstream games accessible, but if we keep complaining that a game is too hard, then they're just gonna laugh at us and ignore us like they've been doing all these years. I personally love challenge
Re: [Audyssey] Game Chat Reminder
Please send my regards to doctor wabble's robots. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org]on Behalf Of Gamers Chat Robot Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 6:00 AM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] Game Chat Reminder Ever wanted to hear what a certain gamer really sounds like? Ever wanted to ask the developer a question about that cool game? Developers, ever wanted to get to know your players? Ever wanted to be able to answer questions asked by your players? Here is your chance to do all these things and more. All you need is a Windows system with a working sound card and microphone. The service is free to use after you complete the simple registration process. The site is http://www.for-the-people.com and the chat room is the Games People Play. This notice reminder is for the Thursdays gamer chat which goes on until when ever. The Time: Well, that depends on where you are at. Below is a simple chart showing time zones in the US as well as universal time. Thursdays starting at: 6PM Pacific 7PM Mountain 8PM Central 9PM Eastern 1AM Friday morning Universal Hope to see you there. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] the sl maxpayne mod
What do you mean And can you please post it thanks On 10/1/09, Hayri Tulumcu wrote: > yes i have it but remember to delete the following in the program parth: > c:\programmer it wil be the following c:\program files > - Original Message - > From: "Oriol Gómez" > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 7:11 PM > Subject: [Audyssey] the sl maxpayne mod > > >> Hey all, some time ago someone posted a mod for superliam with max payne >> Does anyone still have it? >> thx >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >> list, >> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] the sl maxpayne mod
i mean in the danish windows xp the programs are stored in the following folder c:\Programmer and you wil have to delete this until you have this: c:\programs file not c:\programmer. The file are 346 MB - Original Message - From: "Oriol Gómez" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 10:50 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] the sl maxpayne mod What do you mean And can you please post it thanks On 10/1/09, Hayri Tulumcu wrote: yes i have it but remember to delete the following in the program parth: c:\programmer it wil be the following c:\program files - Original Message - From: "Oriol Gómez" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 7:11 PM Subject: [Audyssey] the sl maxpayne mod Hey all, some time ago someone posted a mod for superliam with max payne Does anyone still have it? thx --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] the sl maxpayne mod
Put it on sendspace or something if you can. thanks On 10/1/09, Hayri Tulumcu wrote: > i mean in the danish windows xp the programs are stored in the following > folder c:\Programmer and you wil have to delete this until you have this: > c:\programs file not c:\programmer. The file are 346 MB > - Original Message - > From: "Oriol Gómez" > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 10:50 PM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] the sl maxpayne mod > > > What do you mean > And can you please post it > thanks > > On 10/1/09, Hayri Tulumcu wrote: >> yes i have it but remember to delete the following in the program parth: >> c:\programmer it wil be the following c:\program files >> - Original Message - >> From: "Oriol Gómez" >> To: "Gamers Discussion list" >> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 7:11 PM >> Subject: [Audyssey] the sl maxpayne mod >> >> >>> Hey all, some time ago someone posted a mod for superliam with max payne >>> Does anyone still have it? >>> thx >>> >>> --- >>> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >>> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >>> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >>> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >>> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >>> list, >>> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >> >> >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >> list, >> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >> > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] the sl maxpayne mod
its to large for sendspace. I'd have to upload it and I really don't have the time right now or bandwidth. At 09:50 a.m. 2/10/2009, you wrote: >What do you mean >And can you please post it >thanks > >On 10/1/09, Hayri Tulumcu wrote: >> yes i have it but remember to delete the following in the program parth: >> c:\programmer it wil be the following c:\program files >> - Original Message - >> From: "Oriol Gómez" >> To: "Gamers Discussion list" >> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 7:11 PM >> Subject: [Audyssey] the sl maxpayne mod >> >> >>> Hey all, some time ago someone posted a mod for superliam with max payne >>> Does anyone still have it? >>> thx >>> >>> --- >>> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >>> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >>> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >>> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >>> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >>> list, >>> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >> >> >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >> > >--- >Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Liberty League News
The Enter your Picks is ready for week 4. Also, there is a new link that will bring you to the Play ball web site. Here you can check out the New Strat computer Baseball Blind Accessible Liberty League. Many teams are still available where you can head to head managing your team to the World Series. Here is the link to the Pool web site to make your picks. http://www.mysideline.com/u/14430/nfl/default.htm Finally in the BALL the 2 teams that are battle in the Championship week are: Blind Bombers 175 Bristol Stomps 73. Plenty of time for the Stomps to do some ass kicking. Check out the live scoring for this match up at: http://www.fanstarbaseball.com/baseball/blindaccessi/index.php Have fun with all the Games Crash Liberty Leagues Commissioner --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Preordering was MOTABeta
Hi Hayden, It certainly can. Fortunately most of the negative e-mails have died down and become more normal requests for information but there for a while I was getting constant e-mails that were anything but kind. They were nasty, insulting, and I decided then and there not to use preorders if that is the way people reacted that way towards me. Hayden Presley wrote: Hi Thomas, I see what you mean...I bet that can get nasty sometimes. Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Why can't we get a challenging game for once? wasMOTA
Hi Bryan, Exactly my thoughts. If there is someone who doesn't want to save games while playing there is no law saying they have to. Yes, people can use it to cheat, but cheaters are only cheating themselves in the end. Bryan Peterson wrote: A worthy ambition, but given the increased difficulty I have a feeling that if Thomas did that he'd live to regret it. Here's a concept. If ya don't like a given feature of a game, ya don't have to use it. Not trying to be offensive here but that's how I feel. Quite frankly I'm greatful to have the option to save at any point or I probably would have lost patience with the new Beta. And as I grow more comfortable I use it less anyways, usually only right before the boss if I decide I'm going to try to bring him down. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Why can't we get a challenging game for once? wasMOTA
Hi Yohandy, Perhaps, but considering the fact I use the save game feature for debugging I really don't want to restrict it to the beginning of a level. Besides as Bryan pointed out people who don't want to use that feature don't have to. That feature, at least, is purely optional. Yohandy wrote: I agree. I think we should only have the saving feature enabled at the beginning of each level. or at least half way through it --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] python compiler
Ok all, I have decided to learn the python programming language. My only issue now is, how do I compile my code since I understand that it is not possible to do it through the inturpritor, as it runs your code as you type it, without giving you the opportunity to save your project. my question is, are there any good python compilers? And also, is there a way to turn .py(compiled python programs) in to .exe files? Thanks, Nick --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] MOTA.
Yes in deed. Athena was the goddess of wisdom, and as a result she was suppose to be an excellent strategist in combat. Unfortunately a side-scroller doesn't give anyone much room for realistic combat, but I can make her hard to defeat all the same. Since you can't kill her the object will simply be to best her if you can, and she'll give you the orb. Bryan Peterson wrote: I'm looking forward to fighting Athena, since by all accounts she was a skilled fighter when she chose to do so. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Saving game penalty
Hi Phil, that would cause more problems than it is worth. for one thing I use the save game feature a lot for testing the game. I often restore a saved checkpoint so I can test something I've fixed, updated, whatever. if I added penalties on myself I couldn't test it as well as I should. Besides that how am I to make the penalty system fair. If someone is playing a game, gets to level 5, and has to go to work is he suppose to just quit? Is he suppose to be penalized, treated as a cheater, rather than someone who didn't have the time to finish a game? Is it fair to penalize both the cheaters and non-cheaters alike? If I have a save feature and penalize people for using it why have it at all? Personally, I see it as a feature of the game for the end user's enjoyment. They can use it or not. If they cheat that's their problem. Phil Vlasak wrote: Hi folks, How about having a penalty to saving the MOTA game. Each time you save the game 1 percent is taken away from your health. So even with a healing potion, you would only go back to 99 percent if you saved the game once. For example if you saved the game 20 times your maximum health would be 80 and could go no higher. So if you save the game 50 times you would only have half of your health and could be killed much easier. This would take away the addiction of saving the game at each door. Of course maybe if you got that magic orb you would be restored to full health. Phil --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Preordering was MOTABeta
Hi Trouble, that's true of course, but some people in our comunity have wicked tempers. Even worse I've spoken to my fair share of people that hav a "you owe me" attitude, and it drives me crazy. That said, I've thought about setting up something like an msdn subscription style service. If you can afford it Microsoft has a subscription for msdn that allows you to download betas for MS Office, Windows, etc and you can upgrade to the full product for a discount when it comes out. It is expensive, but it is a way of getting legal copies of their software as they become available, and for a discount when they come out. If I set up a similar service on my web site people would donate x amount each year for games, and as a result they would get all alpha, beta, and full releases of my games for a reduced price or for nothing at all. That's a way of putting money into the company, but also giving people x number of games for a base fee. Trouble wrote: I can see your point here, but unlike the one that you took the games over from. You have come out with updates and reasons why you got set back. your right a game can not be done in a day and neither was the earth. pre orders are up to you, but personally i see the head ache makes them not worth it. Just so the others know. Big game companies break out the info on the update. Just to wet your apatite and then take as long as they want on the release with no info until release. So you could be waiting six munths to over a year for more info on the game you pre paid for, and they do not answer email or letters about said games. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Questions for all you game developers on the list
Hi Bryan, quite right. Most accessible game developer's don't worry about graphics for two reasons. First, they can't see enough to draw the images themselves, and have no one available who is willing to do the work. Second, even if they find someone to make them they still can't see it. So either way it is time and energy spent on something that isn't very useful or accessible to a blind gamer. Bryan Peterson wrote: So far as I know most audio game devs don't even bother with graphics since they're totally blind or visually impaired enough that graphics wouldn't do them any good. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Questions for all you game developers on the list
Hi Jaffar, I think you would be better off writing your own custom game engine. That way you will get the features and functionality you want without depending on someone elses engine. Especially, given the fact that most commercial game engines out there are not equipt for accessibility anyway. As far as which language to use I'd personally say go with C++. The C++ programming language is the industry standard and there is a wide range of multimedia development libraries for C++ such as OpenGL, OpenAL, LibSDL, DirectX, XNA, fmodex, and so on. You have native access to these APIs which is not only slightly easier, but your applications will run better as well. When you use a language like C-Sharp you have to locate a managed library like SdlDotNet, MS XNA Framework, SlimDX, etc which may or may not be up to date. I've discovered through trial and error C-Sharp isn't always the best solution to use for gaming. I like c-Sharp, it works well enough, but C++ is a bit better in the long run. As you may or may not know I've been researching cross platform accessible gaming. So far I've had the least grief and trouble sticking with C++. There are APIs like OpenGL, OpenAL, LibSDL, that makes it much easier to create cross platform games provided you recompile a build for each target platform. With C-Sharp I have to create a version that runs on Mono which isn't necessarily recommended given licensing issues with the technology. Plus the Mono Framework that runs on Mac and Linux isn't totally compatible with .NET applications. Sometimes you still need to recompile and modify the game to make them run on Mac and linux correctly. HTH --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Questions for all you game developers on the list
Hi Bryan, true. Although, I think the bigger problem with this type of game is that video games tend to operate at much higher speeds than audio games. The graphics might be redrawn 20 to 30 times a second, and it is constantly being updated in real time. Certainly faster than audio and speech feedback will allow for. As a result my audio games are slowed down to account for the player's ability to listen to things and get some sort of spoken feedback. At the speed my main game loop runs the screen and audio would seam to crawl in slow motion for a normal mainstream gamer. I'm not saying this can't be over come, but it might be much faster and require quickr reflexes than your average accessible gamer is use to. Bryan Peterson wrote: Well that could be a tall order given a lot of people's attitudes about the difficulty of games. A game that's challenging enough to keep a sighted person's interest is apparently too hard for a lot of blind folks. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Preordering was MOTABeta
hmmm I personally wouldn't care for a subscription thing, I am happy to wait for things. I also don't care for payed testing, sure I get things but then there is no fun in it. Its different when say a new game comes out, I apply and get a test position, I then test the game, and put in stuff maybe contribute sounds and ideas. I then get a copy for free, well maybe I don't. but still if I do get it for free and even if I don't I can say look I put work into that, part of this is mine because I thought of x idea. Now if I payed for it, its like, well I payed for this, so I expect this, it is my right to get this, because I payed for it, and you will give it to me or else. See, all the fun is gone. It becomes something to buy. and I don't care for it. At 03:20 p.m. 2/10/2009, you wrote: >Hi Trouble, that's true of course, but some people in our comunity have wicked >tempers. Even worse I've spoken to my fair share of people that hav a "you owe >me" attitude, and it drives me crazy. >That said, I've thought about setting up something like an msdn subscription >style service. If you can afford it Microsoft has a subscription for msdn that >allows you to download betas for MS Office, Windows, etc and you can upgrade >to the full product for a discount when it comes out. It is expensive, but it >is a way of getting legal copies of their software as they become available, >and for a discount when they come out. >If I set up a similar service on my web site people would donate x amount each >year for games, and as a result they would get all alpha, beta, and full >releases of my games for a reduced price or for nothing at all. That's a way >of putting money into the company, but also giving people x number of games >for a base fee. > >Trouble wrote: >>I can see your point here, but unlike the one that you took the games over >>from. You have come out with updates and reasons why you got set back. >>your right a game can not be done in a day and neither was the earth. >>pre orders are up to you, but personally i see the head ache makes them not >>worth it. >>Just so the others know. Big game companies break out the info on the update. >>Just to wet your apatite and then take as long as they want on the release >>with no info until release. So you could be waiting six munths to over a year >>for more info on the game you pre paid for, and they do not answer email or >>letters about said games. > > >--- >Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Questions for all you game developers on the list
yeah. I aggree there. At 03:27 p.m. 2/10/2009, you wrote: >Hi Bryan, quite right. Most accessible game developer's don't worry about >graphics for two reasons. First, they can't see enough to draw the images >themselves, and have no one available who is willing to do the work. Second, >even if they find someone to make them they still can't see it. So either way >it is time and energy spent on something that isn't very useful or accessible >to a blind gamer. > >Bryan Peterson wrote: >>So far as I know most audio game devs don't even bother with graphics since >>they're totally blind or visually impaired enough that graphics wouldn't do >>them any good. >>Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? >>Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. > > >--- >Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Questions for all you game developers on the list
Hi William, Ummm...We have a few FPS games like monkey Business, Shades of Doom, and Sarah. That's not many, but we have a few to get a feel for the genre. william lomas wrote: but the blind have only had arcade type games no FPS or anything But the more challenge the better in my view --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] python compiler
Hi Nick, generally for writing code you will just want to use an off the shelf text editor like notepad and save it as a *.py file. As far as creating a Windows executable you will need to use py2exe which will compile your Python sorce as a Windows program, and you will have to include the Python runtime libraries with the program as well. HTH Nick Helms wrote: Ok all, I have decided to learn the python programming language. My only issue now is, how do I compile my code since I understand that it is not possible to do it through the inturpritor, as it runs your code as you type it, without giving you the opportunity to save your project. my question is, are there any good python compilers? And also, is there a way to turn .py(compiled python programs) in to .exe files? Thanks, Nick --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] python compiler
thank you thomas! Actualy, I figured it out. My problem was that I had told notepad to save the file as a .txt rather then "All files" .py Thanks for your help! As far as the librarys, I have the python inturpretor installed, wich I used to run this the application I just wrote. Is that all I need as well as the source file for py2exe to work? On 10/1/09, Thomas Ward wrote: > Hi Nick, generally for writing code you will just want to use an off > the shelf text editor like notepad and save it as a *.py file. As far as > creating a Windows executable you will need to use py2exe which will > compile your Python sorce as a Windows program, and you will have to > include the Python runtime libraries with the program as well. > > HTH > > Nick Helms wrote: >> Ok all, >> I have decided to learn the python programming language. >> My only issue now is, how do I compile my code since I understand that >> it is not possible to do it through the inturpritor, as it runs your >> code as you type it, without giving you the opportunity to save your >> project. >> my question is, are there any good python compilers? And also, is >> there a way to turn .py(compiled python programs) in to .exe files? >> Thanks, >> Nick >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >> list, >> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >> >> > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > -- website: Nickhelms.net sip phone number: 360-526-6509 Skype: Nickster919 twitter: Nickster919 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Preordering was MOTABeta
wow thomas. good idea! I really like that. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 10:20 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Preordering was MOTABeta Hi Trouble, that's true of course, but some people in our comunity have wicked tempers. Even worse I've spoken to my fair share of people that hav a "you owe me" attitude, and it drives me crazy. That said, I've thought about setting up something like an msdn subscription style service. If you can afford it Microsoft has a subscription for msdn that allows you to download betas for MS Office, Windows, etc and you can upgrade to the full product for a discount when it comes out. It is expensive, but it is a way of getting legal copies of their software as they become available, and for a discount when they come out. If I set up a similar service on my web site people would donate x amount each year for games, and as a result they would get all alpha, beta, and full releases of my games for a reduced price or for nothing at all. That's a way of putting money into the company, but also giving people x number of games for a base fee. Trouble wrote: I can see your point here, but unlike the one that you took the games over from. You have come out with updates and reasons why you got set back. your right a game can not be done in a day and neither was the earth. pre orders are up to you, but personally i see the head ache makes them not worth it. Just so the others know. Big game companies break out the info on the update. Just to wet your apatite and then take as long as they want on the release with no info until release. So you could be waiting six munths to over a year for more info on the game you pre paid for, and they do not answer email or letters about said games. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] python compiler
also how do I run py2exe, as I'm not seeing it in the start menu, nor in my python submenu? Thanks much, Nick On 10/1/09, Nick Helms wrote: > thank you thomas! Actualy, I figured it out. My problem was that I had > told notepad to save the file as a .txt rather then "All files" .py > Thanks for your help! > As far as the librarys, I have the python inturpretor installed, wich > I used to run this the application I just wrote. Is that all I need as > well as the source file for py2exe to work? > > > On 10/1/09, Thomas Ward wrote: >> Hi Nick, generally for writing code you will just want to use an off >> the shelf text editor like notepad and save it as a *.py file. As far as >> creating a Windows executable you will need to use py2exe which will >> compile your Python sorce as a Windows program, and you will have to >> include the Python runtime libraries with the program as well. >> >> HTH >> >> Nick Helms wrote: >>> Ok all, >>> I have decided to learn the python programming language. >>> My only issue now is, how do I compile my code since I understand that >>> it is not possible to do it through the inturpritor, as it runs your >>> code as you type it, without giving you the opportunity to save your >>> project. >>> my question is, are there any good python compilers? And also, is >>> there a way to turn .py(compiled python programs) in to .exe files? >>> Thanks, >>> Nick >>> >>> --- >>> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >>> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >>> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >>> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >>> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >>> list, >>> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >>> >>> >> >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >> list, >> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >> > > > -- > website: Nickhelms.net > sip phone number: 360-526-6509 > Skype: Nickster919 > twitter: Nickster919 > -- website: Nickhelms.net sip phone number: 360-526-6509 Skype: Nickster919 twitter: Nickster919 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] python compiler
Hi Nick, that depends on the application. If you plan to write games you will need to download and install additional libraries such as PyGame for starts. HTH Nick Helms wrote: thank you thomas! Actualy, I figured it out. My problem was that I had told notepad to save the file as a .txt rather then "All files" .py Thanks for your help! As far as the librarys, I have the python inturpretor installed, wich I used to run this the application I just wrote. Is that all I need as well as the source file for py2exe to work? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] python compiler
Hi nick, I think I need to explain this a bit clearer. As you probably know Python is a scripting language and requires an interpretor to run. Therefore it is not really compiled to a native Windows program as would be the case if you used a language like C or C++. What py2exe really does is it bundles the Python interpretor and your source code together into an exe file, but it isn't compiled in the triditional sense of the word. It is more like packaged in an executable archive. I hope that makes sense. Anyway, if you want to use py2exe to make an executable archive you'll have to get use to working with the Windows command line for this. Most python tools like that are command line only, not graphical applications, so you have to be somewhat familiar with the Windows command prompt to use them. Here is an overview how py2exe works. First, download and install py2exe from http://www.py2exe.org and install the correct version for your interpretor. Make sure you get the one that is for your version of the Python interpretor. Else you can end up screwing things up a bit. Second, you have to create a custom setup script for your application. Generally this is easy, but for a newby this is an unexpected step. Create a filecalled setup.py, and then you will write a script something like this. For example let us just say the program is called Test. import setup import py2exe setup (console=["Test.py"], zipfile=None) Once you have created and saved your setup script you now have to build the Python exe archive via the command line. Generally you would type a command like this in your source directory. python setup.py py2exe --bundle 1 If everything worked correctly you would have a file called Test.exe in your dist directory. HTH --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Preordering was MOTABeta
i'd set that up now, smile, then people who pre-ordered the game could tr all betas and everyone else would have to wait until full release that way you are making more money On 2 Oct 2009, at 04:53, Yohandy wrote: wow thomas. good idea! I really like that. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" > To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 10:20 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Preordering was MOTABeta Hi Trouble, that's true of course, but some people in our comunity have wicked tempers. Even worse I've spoken to my fair share of people that hav a "you owe me" attitude, and it drives me crazy. That said, I've thought about setting up something like an msdn subscription style service. If you can afford it Microsoft has a subscription for msdn that allows you to download betas for MS Office, Windows, etc and you can upgrade to the full product for a discount when it comes out. It is expensive, but it is a way of getting legal copies of their software as they become available, and for a discount when they come out. If I set up a similar service on my web site people would donate x amount each year for games, and as a result they would get all alpha, beta, and full releases of my games for a reduced price or for nothing at all. That's a way of putting money into the company, but also giving people x number of games for a base fee. Trouble wrote: I can see your point here, but unlike the one that you took the games over from. You have come out with updates and reasons why you got set back. your right a game can not be done in a day and neither was the earth. pre orders are up to you, but personally i see the head ache makes them not worth it. Just so the others know. Big game companies break out the info on the update. Just to wet your apatite and then take as long as they want on the release with no info until release. So you could be waiting six munths to over a year for more info on the game you pre paid for, and they do not answer email or letters about said games. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org . You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org . You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
