Re: [JAWS-Users] Creating a new folder

[Rebecca Lineberger]

I have the latest version of windows 10, 1803.  When you first open your
Documents folder, nothing should be selected.  JAWS should say, not selected
before it says the name of the first folder.  You have several choices as to
how you create a new folder.
1.  Press control-shift-n and JAWS should say new folder.  You're in the
edit box to type the folder's name.  Type it and press enter.
2.  Press the application key and arrow to new, submenu.  Press enter to
open the menu.  You should be on folder.  Press enter and type the new name.
Press enter..  
3.  Press the alt key and tab once.  It should say, properties.  Tab again
and it should say, new folder button.  Press enter.  If you want an even
quicker way,  from Documents, with nothing selected, press alt and the 2 on
the top row of the keyboard. Together, not sequentially.  Smile.  This will
put you in the edit box, ready to type the folder name. 
HTH.
Rebecca
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Sent: Friday, July 06, 2018 11:29 AM
To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Creating a new folder

I am using the latest version of jaws with windows 10. I tried the
control-shift-n keystrokes and didn't get anything. I am a long time
computer user and this makes me feel so dumb and I have looked all over the
place. Appreciate help.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Just For Fun, Emoji

[Rebecca Lineberger]

Thank you, Joseph.  Pressing enter works!  Smile. I put one in a document
and then later wasn't sure what I'd done before.  It said the emoji was
selected, so I pressed control c to copy it, then control v to paste.  Works
everywhere else in Microsoft!  LOL.  Not here.  JAWS reads the smiling face
with smiling eyes emoji, but not several others that I added, the eagle or
butterfly.  I know they were there since Narrator read them.
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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of joseph.lee22...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2018 10:22 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Just For Fun, Emoji

Hi,
I'll try my best to address several questions about emoji panel in one go:

Q. What is emoji?
Emoji (a shorthand Japanese for "emotion characters", from Romanization of
"emo" and "ji" (character)) is a picture that represents objects, emotions,
people, events and so on. This came about in the late 1990's where people
wanted to conserve space on data usage yet wanted to express their emotions
to the fullest. This became pop0ular among Japanese mobile phone users via
SMS (short messaging service) before it gain widespread usage in 2010's.

Q. How do I read emoji?
It'll depend on screen reader and synthesizer in use. Some synthesizers do
support announcing emojis, while others don't. Also, the ability to
recognize emojis will depend on how the screen reader processes Unicode data
and instructions sent to speech synthesizers regarding how to process such
characters.

Q. How do I input emoji?
In Windows 10 Version 1709 (Fall Creators Update) and later, you can browse
and insert emoji by pressing Windows+period or Windows+semicolon. Note that
in 1709 and 1803 (April 2018 Update), only United States English keyboard
layout will let you browse emojis. In Redstone 5 (under development), this
restriction is gone.
In 1709 and 1803, once emoji panel opens, press the arrow keys to move
through emojis. Press Tab to cycle through emoji categories, or if you're
looking for a specific emoji, type the name and the panel will return
suggestions. To insert a given emoji, press Enter.
In Redstone 5, you can still use arrow keys to move through emojis. However,
pressing Tab will not cycle through categories; rather, it'll switch between
emojis and categories. To select a different emoji category, press Tab to go
the categories, then use left or right arrows to move through categories and
press Enter. In case of People category, you can choose a skin tone. Once
the emoji is found, press Enter.

Q. Does JAWS support emoji panel?
Not at this time (according to tests). Some users asked VFO regarding this
matter not long ago.

Q. Does other screen readers support emoji panel?
Write to me privately regarding this matter please (not only to keep the
topic on scope, but also because I am the one who brought support for emoji
panel for a certain screen reader; hint: there will come a day when a
certain scripts will not be required to interact with emoji panel, but
that's for another time).

Cheers,
Joseph
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Paul Mugambi
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2018 6:45 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Just For Fun, Emoji

hello am using Jaws 2018 on windows 10 how do i  put Emoji?

On 6/22/18, Rebecca Lineberger  wrote:
> I was reading on another JAWS List and someone had used an emoji, if 
> that's the right word.  JAWS described it when I was reading with the 
> down-arrow key but not the left and right arrows, so it would seem 
> that there was no colon and closed parenthesis to make a smiling face.
> Windows 10 can, they say, bring up a list of emoji with Windows key 
> and either the period or the semicolon.  But if it does, JAWS can't 
> see
them, and neither can I!  LOL.
> I
> tried recognizing the screen, but got no descriptions.  I googled and 
> found that there is an add-on for NVDA that will make these emoji
accessible.
> Not
> having NVDA installed, I can't check.  It would be fun if JAWS had 
> this since we all send stuff to sighted friends.
>
> Presumably, everyone can already do this on their iPhones, but alas, 
> no iPhone yet.  So, again, it would be great if JAWS would let me play!
LOL.
>
> Just sayin'
>
> Rebecca
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Just For Fun, Emoji

[Rebecca Lineberger]

Narrator reads the lists of emoji.  There are several categories, which you can 
get to by tabbing.  JAWS won't read the lists, but it will read the emoji once 
it's pasted into a message or document.
  
However, I've tried several times to copy and paste another, but it won't copy. 
 The context key says that copy is disabled and control c won't work as it did 
before. A bug in Microsoft?  Smile.  But there are hundreds of emoji in the 
various categories.  Fun to play with if I can get it to work.  Sigh. .
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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Cristóbal
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2018 9:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Just For Fun, Emoji

Yes. This new Windows 10 feature still doesn’t' appear to be accessible with 
Jaws. I've also come across some emojis by accident with the alt plus numpad 
sequence when I've meant to type something else. Accented vowel, º, ñ for 
example. ☺ = alt plus #1. ☻ = alt plus #2. ♥ = alt plus #3 and so on. But 
considering that there are tons and tons of emojis and that you can also select 
shade of skin color for the more ethno-centric conscious folks, it's still 
pretty much a no go.
I want to say that Leacy or however you spell it has some sort of emoji 
function if you buy their scripts, but I don't really have a need for leasy 
products and am not jonesing enough to emoji my heart out to pay for that 
specific feature with their script package.
Especially now that it seems to be built in to Windows 10. I would have to 
imagine that it'll soon enough be part of the Jaws core function. This of 
course will probably be touted as some major new Jaws feature eating up one of 
my SMAs instead of addressing long standing bugs though.
You see? A grumpy or angry face emoji would have been perfect at the end of 
that last sentence...

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2018 5:10 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Just For Fun, Emoji

From what my sighted friend says, these are pictures--all kinds of things: 
faces, animals, sports stuff, musical instruments--that pop up on the screen 
when you press Windows key and either the period or the semicolon.  Something 
to make people smile, I guess, though some of the faces were crying.  Many more 
emoji than on her phone, she said.  Shrug.  Would be nice to have access as 
partially sighted JAWS users do.  Not complaining.  Just sayin'.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of George Martinez Sr
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2018 7:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Just For Fun, Emoji

Hello,
I have my Outlook 2016 email set to HTML format and all I do is type : - ) with 
no spaces to send one of those critters and when I get one JAWS tells me 
"smiling face with smiling eyes."
What else are you talking about?

George A. Martinez, Accountant
12231 N. 50th Ave.
Glendale, AZ 85304
O-602.368.8854
F-1-888.822.0282
C-602.368.5424

"He who loses money, loses much; He who loses a friend, loses much more; He who 
loses faith, loses all."  Eleanor Roosevelt

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of JM 
Casey
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2018 3:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Just For Fun, Emoji

Hey.

Yes, that nVDA feature is, I think, a part of Windows 10 App Essentials. I 
haven't played with it. I do use them on my phone (android, not iphone), but 
always feel it's kind of a silly thing to do. Still, especially when talking 
with my landlady, sometimes a simple emoji is best, as she just wants to go on 
and on and on, and I have to indicate I'm listening, somehow. Lol

It is a little odd that JAWS can recognise them but there's no current way to 
select one to input in your messages and such.


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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: June 21, 2018 6:15 PM
To: jaws user's list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Just For Fun, Emoji

I was reading on another JAWS List and someone had used an emoji, if that's the 
right word.  JAWS described it when I was reading with the down-arrow key but 
not the left and right arrows, so it would seem that there was no colon and 
closed parenthesis to make a smiling face.  Windows 10 can, they say, bring up 
a list of emoji with Windows key and either the period or the semicolon.  But 
if it does, JAWS can't see them, and neither can I!  LOL.  I tried recognizing 
the screen, but got no descriptions.  I googled and found that there is an 
add-on for NVDA that will make these emoji accessible.  Not having NVDA 
installed, I can't check.  It would be fun if JAWS had this since we all send 
stuff to sighted friends.  

Presumably, eve

Re: [JAWS-Users] Just For Fun, Emoji

[Rebecca Lineberger]

From what my sighted friend says, these are pictures--all kinds of things: 
faces, animals, sports stuff, musical instruments--that pop up on the screen 
when you press Windows key and either the period or the semicolon.  Something 
to make people smile, I guess, though some of the faces were crying.  Many more 
emoji than on her phone, she said.  Shrug.  Would be nice to have access as 
partially sighted JAWS users do.  Not complaining.  Just sayin'.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of George Martinez Sr
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2018 7:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Just For Fun, Emoji

Hello,
I have my Outlook 2016 email set to HTML format and all I do is type : - ) with 
no spaces to send one of those critters and when I get one JAWS tells me 
"smiling face with smiling eyes."
What else are you talking about?

George A. Martinez, Accountant
12231 N. 50th Ave.
Glendale, AZ 85304
O-602.368.8854
F-1-888.822.0282
C-602.368.5424

"He who loses money, loses much; He who loses a friend, loses much more; He who 
loses faith, loses all."  Eleanor Roosevelt

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of JM 
Casey
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2018 3:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Just For Fun, Emoji

Hey.

Yes, that nVDA feature is, I think, a part of Windows 10 App Essentials. I 
haven't played with it. I do use them on my phone (android, not iphone), but 
always feel it's kind of a silly thing to do. Still, especially when talking 
with my landlady, sometimes a simple emoji is best, as she just wants to go on 
and on and on, and I have to indicate I'm listening, somehow. Lol

It is a little odd that JAWS can recognise them but there's no current way to 
select one to input in your messages and such.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: June 21, 2018 6:15 PM
To: jaws user's list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Just For Fun, Emoji

I was reading on another JAWS List and someone had used an emoji, if that's the 
right word.  JAWS described it when I was reading with the down-arrow key but 
not the left and right arrows, so it would seem that there was no colon and 
closed parenthesis to make a smiling face.  Windows 10 can, they say, bring up 
a list of emoji with Windows key and either the period or the semicolon.  But 
if it does, JAWS can't see them, and neither can I!  LOL.  I tried recognizing 
the screen, but got no descriptions.  I googled and found that there is an 
add-on for NVDA that will make these emoji accessible.  Not having NVDA 
installed, I can't check.  It would be fun if JAWS had this since we all send 
stuff to sighted friends.  

Presumably, everyone can already do this on their iPhones, but alas, no iPhone 
yet.  So, again, it would be great if JAWS would let me play!  LOL.

Just sayin'

Rebecca

 

 

 

 

 

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[JAWS-Users] Just For Fun, Emoji

[Rebecca Lineberger]

I was reading on another JAWS List and someone had used an emoji, if that's
the right word.  JAWS described it when I was reading with the down-arrow
key but not the left and right arrows, so it would seem that there was no
colon and closed parenthesis to make a smiling face.  Windows 10 can, they
say, bring up a list of emoji with Windows key and either the period or the
semicolon.  But if it does, JAWS can't see them, and neither can I!  LOL.  I
tried recognizing the screen, but got no descriptions.  I googled and found
that there is an add-on for NVDA that will make these emoji accessible.  Not
having NVDA installed, I can't check.  It would be fun if JAWS had this
since we all send stuff to sighted friends.  

Presumably, everyone can already do this on their iPhones, but alas, no
iPhone yet.  So, again, it would be great if JAWS would let me play!  LOL.

Just sayin'

Rebecca

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Webinar, Office 2016

[Rebecca Lineberger]

I just copied this from the free webinar page.
https://www.freedomscientific.com/Services/TrainingAndCertification/FreeWebi
nars
Hope it works.  The previous links brought up an error message saying that
the page had moved...
Rebecca

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Sharon S
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2018 12:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Webinar, Office 2016

Hi, I was unable to get your link to open. Internet explorer gave me the
can' not find page message. Where the second link went straight there.

Thanks for these great resources.
>From Shaz.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Thursday, March 1, 2018 6:44 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Webinar, Office 2016


I think the web addresses are the same.  Neither opens directly for me from
the email, but both work when copied and pasted into the browser, Chrome, in
my case.  I'd copied the address from the website and pasted it into my
message.  It did not stay nicely on one line, as Adrian's did.  Perhaps the
improvement of Outlook 2016 over my 2010?  LOL.  But if looked at letter by
letter, so to speak, they're both the same.
But choose the neater version!  Smile.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 1:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Webinar, Office 2016

Rebecca, I believe the address has changed to
http://www.freedomscientific.com/Services/TrainingAndCertification/WebinarDe
tail/F0117
You can choose an MP3 recording or go through an HTML version.

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 10:58 AM
To: jaws user's list 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Webinar, Office 2016

This may be of help to some.

I just found it so haven't listened yet.

Rebecca

Introduction to Office 2016 with JAWS and MAGic

Archived 11/11/2015

 

This overview of Office 2016 with JAWS and MAGic covers the important
aspects of Office 2016. Topics include navigation for the ribbons and task
panes;

differences from earlier versions of Word, Excel, Outlook, and PowerPoint.

Product(s): JAWS, MAGic 

Experience Level: Beginner 

Length: 1.0 hours

https://www.freedomscientific.com/Services/TrainingAndCertification/WebinarD
etail/F0117

 

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[JAWS-Users] A Question About Level And Position

[Rebecca Lineberger]

I've asked about this before, but my frustration and confusion continue. In
the JAWS settings, there's a check box that says:

Show level and position.

It's checked, by default, it says.

However, the results are variable in the folder and file lists in Documents.
I have Windows 10, 1803, and the latest version of JAWS.  Yesterday in
Documents, using insert-tab, JAWS said that a folder was 3 of 48, which is
precisely what it should say.  The status line said there were 48 folders,
and my curser was on the third one down.  Today, it's gone back to saying 3
of 29, and for the last folder, it says, 32 of 32.   

My screen is maximized.  I tried restoring it, and nothing changed.  But the
inconsistency baffles me. Window-Eyes consistently reports the correct
position, and JAWS is set to do so.  Is this a bug that could be fixed?

Rebecca

 

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] file manager

[Rebecca Lineberger]

It's always there for me, but I too have made changes to File Explorer.  I
forget about shift-tabbing.  My hands type the control-f for find out of
habit.
Whatever works! Smile.  
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2018 3:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] file manager

Yes, that's true. Actually after I wrote the last message, I wondered if
some of the tweaks I did to Windows 10 made that search box appear by
default, whereas others have to issue the find command in order to get it. I
do not play with enough other peoples' machines to know whether this is the
case, and I honestly don't remember anymore. But you're right, we are indeed
talking about the same search box, whether it's there all the time as in my
case, or whether you need to press f3 to get it to appear. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: June 1, 2018 3:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] file manager

Again, you're right.  But I think we're talking about the same thing.
Smile.  In documents, if I shift-tab back twice, I get to the search box.
So it's a question of what your hands find easier, shift-tab back or to
press f3 or control-f.
You'll be in an edit box from which you can search either way.
Again, Microsoft has provided us with its usual plethora of choices.  

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2018 3:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] file manager

Hi Rebecca and all.
Well, now it's my turn to clarify. I do not precisely mean the start menu
search, but the one in file explorer. You will see it if you shift-tab back
from the folder tree. It works similar to the start menu search in that
results are populated without the need to press enter, but it will ineed
still show details if you have that radio button checked, since the list
view that's populated is exactly the same one as you normally see in file
explorer, just using your search criteria to narrow down what is shown.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: June 1, 2018 3:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] file manager

Smile.  You're correct.  However, and I should have clarified this, if you
search from the start menu search box, you're given no information about the
results by date, type, size and path.
If you right arrow, there's silence.
I'm a details freak, LOL, and I want this information.  JMO.
If you don't care, and many people don't, then search from the start menu.
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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2018 2:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] file manager

Right. I am not very familiar with Windows 7 because I only used it for a
brief time at work. However I just wanted to add that in Win 10 at least,
you don't even need to use the find command, because the search box is right
there in your explorer window, ready to help you narrow down your file list.
I just tested it myself by putting *.txt in the search box for my documents
folder. All .docx, .pdf and other files disappeared from the list, and it
automatically shows subfolders as well.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: June 1, 2018 2:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] file manager

Again, perhaps this is not what you're looking for.
If you open your documents folder in Windows 10, and earlier versions too,
you can do a find command Control-f Or
F3
And simply type the file extension you're looking for with the period before
the letters:.  For example:
 .docx (note: d o c x)
.jpg
.txt
No need to press enter.  The results just appear and you can arrow down
through them and delete one by one or select as usual and delete.
HTH.
Rebecca
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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2018 2:14 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] file manager

You can also use the search box in Windows (10 at least) to only show files
meeting certain criteria, and I believe wildcards work there. In essence,
there shouldn't really be a need for an external file manager. But maybe if
you explain exactly what it is you want to do, it will be more clear what
steps you should take.



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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: June 1, 2018 1:46

Re: [JAWS-Users] file manager

[Rebecca Lineberger]

Again, you're right.  But I think we're talking about the same thing.
Smile.  In documents, if I shift-tab back twice, I get to the search box.
So it's a question of what your hands find easier, shift-tab back or to
press f3 or control-f.
You'll be in an edit box from which you can search either way.
Again, Microsoft has provided us with its usual plethora of choices.  

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2018 3:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] file manager

Hi Rebecca and all.
Well, now it's my turn to clarify. I do not precisely mean the start menu
search, but the one in file explorer. You will see it if you shift-tab back
from the folder tree. It works similar to the start menu search in that
results are populated without the need to press enter, but it will ineed
still show details if you have that radio button checked, since the list
view that's populated is exactly the same one as you normally see in file
explorer, just using your search criteria to narrow down what is shown.



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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: June 1, 2018 3:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] file manager

Smile.  You're correct.  However, and I should have clarified this, if you
search from the start menu search box, you're given no information about the
results by date, type, size and path.
If you right arrow, there's silence.
I'm a details freak, LOL, and I want this information.  JMO.
If you don't care, and many people don't, then search from the start menu.
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Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2018 2:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] file manager

Right. I am not very familiar with Windows 7 because I only used it for a
brief time at work. However I just wanted to add that in Win 10 at least,
you don't even need to use the find command, because the search box is right
there in your explorer window, ready to help you narrow down your file list.
I just tested it myself by putting *.txt in the search box for my documents
folder. All .docx, .pdf and other files disappeared from the list, and it
automatically shows subfolders as well.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: June 1, 2018 2:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] file manager

Again, perhaps this is not what you're looking for.
If you open your documents folder in Windows 10, and earlier versions too,
you can do a find command Control-f Or
F3
And simply type the file extension you're looking for with the period before
the letters:.  For example:
 .docx (note: d o c x)
.jpg
.txt
No need to press enter.  The results just appear and you can arrow down
through them and delete one by one or select as usual and delete.
HTH.
Rebecca
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Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2018 2:14 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] file manager

You can also use the search box in Windows (10 at least) to only show files
meeting certain criteria, and I believe wildcards work there. In essence,
there shouldn't really be a need for an external file manager. But maybe if
you explain exactly what it is you want to do, it will be more clear what
steps you should take.



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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: June 1, 2018 1:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] file manager

Hi.

Perhaps I'm not understanding something in this request, but you mentioned
DoS, so why don't you just use command line to do this? del *.dat, del
j?.txt, etc, etc, still works just as well as it did in 1992. :)



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Behalf Of leonard morris
Sent: May 31, 2018 10:42 PM
To: Jaws
Subject: [JAWS-Users] file manager

I am using the latest jaws 2018 and windows 7. Is there a file manager
program that acts like DOS to delete several files at once using wildcards
to delete a group of files with the same extension that's Jaws friendly?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] file manager

[Rebecca Lineberger]

Smile.  You're correct.  However, and I should have clarified this, if you
search from the start menu search box, you're given no information about the
results by date, type, size and path.
If you right arrow, there's silence.
I'm a details freak, LOL, and I want this information.  JMO.
If you don't care, and many people don't, then search from the start menu.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2018 2:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] file manager

Right. I am not very familiar with Windows 7 because I only used it for a
brief time at work. However I just wanted to add that in Win 10 at least,
you don't even need to use the find command, because the search box is right
there in your explorer window, ready to help you narrow down your file list.
I just tested it myself by putting *.txt in the search box for my documents
folder. All .docx, .pdf and other files disappeared from the list, and it
automatically shows subfolders as well.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: June 1, 2018 2:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] file manager

Again, perhaps this is not what you're looking for.
If you open your documents folder in Windows 10, and earlier versions too,
you can do a find command Control-f Or
F3
And simply type the file extension you're looking for with the period before
the letters:.  For example:
 .docx (note: d o c x)
.jpg
.txt
No need to press enter.  The results just appear and you can arrow down
through them and delete one by one or select as usual and delete.
HTH.
Rebecca
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2018 2:14 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] file manager

You can also use the search box in Windows (10 at least) to only show files
meeting certain criteria, and I believe wildcards work there. In essence,
there shouldn't really be a need for an external file manager. But maybe if
you explain exactly what it is you want to do, it will be more clear what
steps you should take.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: June 1, 2018 1:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] file manager

Hi.

Perhaps I'm not understanding something in this request, but you mentioned
DoS, so why don't you just use command line to do this? del *.dat, del
j?.txt, etc, etc, still works just as well as it did in 1992. :)



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Behalf Of leonard morris
Sent: May 31, 2018 10:42 PM
To: Jaws
Subject: [JAWS-Users] file manager

I am using the latest jaws 2018 and windows 7. Is there a file manager
program that acts like DOS to delete several files at once using wildcards
to delete a group of files with the same extension that's Jaws friendly?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] file manager

[Rebecca Lineberger]

Again, perhaps this is not what you're looking for.
If you open your documents folder in Windows 10, and earlier versions too,
you can do a find command
Control-f 
Or
F3
And simply type the file extension you're looking for with the period before
the letters:.  For example:
 .docx (note: d o c x)
.jpg
.txt
No need to press enter.  The results just appear and you can arrow down
through them and delete one by one or select as usual and delete.
HTH.
Rebecca
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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2018 2:14 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] file manager

You can also use the search box in Windows (10 at least) to only show files
meeting certain criteria, and I believe wildcards work there. In essence,
there shouldn't really be a need for an external file manager. But maybe if
you explain exactly what it is you want to do, it will be more clear what
steps you should take.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: June 1, 2018 1:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] file manager

Hi.

Perhaps I'm not understanding something in this request, but you mentioned
DoS, so why don't you just use command line to do this? del *.dat, del
j?.txt, etc, etc, still works just as well as it did in 1992. :)



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Behalf Of leonard morris
Sent: May 31, 2018 10:42 PM
To: Jaws
Subject: [JAWS-Users] file manager

I am using the latest jaws 2018 and windows 7. Is there a file manager
program that acts like DOS to delete several files at once using wildcards
to delete a group of files with the same extension that's Jaws friendly?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Find Function in MS Word 13

[Rebecca Lineberger]

Well, LOL, I can certainly empathize.  I was playing with the find command
in my Word 2010, finding partial words and reacquainting myself about how to
find formatting.
Sometimes it worked beautifully, just as Adrian said.  And then, for no
reason known to a mere mortal, as opposed to the more highly evolved 
computer being on this desk, the find could not be found.  Gone.
And sometimes, it found 18 paragraph marks when I'd only put in five.  Maybe
it was trying to apologize for earlier disappearances.
Rebecca


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Behalf Of jyandt.mar...@comcast.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2018 4:26 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Find Function in MS Word 13

Thanks Adrian; as well as Dave and Rebecca. I will follow the instructions
for using the JAWS find, as my MS Word find has taken an apparent indefinite
vacation. But I am really curious as to why it stopped working to begin
with; as it had worked perfectly before.


-Original Message-
From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2018 12:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Find Function in MS Word 13

Hi, Jerry.

Dave and Rebecca have posted the JAWS alternative that works fine in most
instances. However, the MS find function can  be helpful in other ways, so
I'd like to try to suggest what may be going wrong for you.

With JAWS find (JAWS key+control+f), you can only search for whole words. So
if you remembered the word you wanted was a verb such as "talk," but not
whether it was talked, talking, etc., you'd have to search over and over
until you landed on the place you were searching for. MS find isn't limited
to words; you can also search for partial words, etc.

Another nice feature of the MS search function is that it will tell you how
many instances of your search string appear in the document, and also which
one you're focused on. JAWS find does none of that.

Finally, with MS find you can search for paragraph breaks, tabs and other
useful targets. Again, you can't do any of this with JAWS find.

In my experience, the first time I open an MS find, nothing happens. I press
control-f, type in my search string, then press enter. Nothing. However, I
then press control-f again and JAWS verbalizes the search string I just
typed. Now I press enter, and I'm taken to the first instance of that
string.

Here, take care to listen on pressing that enter key. You will be given the
context, such as the entire line where the result appears. You'll also be
told to click on "Next" for the next instance. If you've arrived where you
want to be, press escape to exit the find function. If you're looking for a
different instance, press the spacebar.

If you move on to the next instance, you're now told the number of examples
of this string in the document and which of those instances you're focused
on, as well as the current context.

The MS find function isn't completely consistent. For example, sometimes it
commences a search the first time I do the find command, sometimes not. It
took me some getting used to, and like Rebecca and Dave, I most often use
JAWS find. but learning how to work with MS find was well worth the trouble.

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From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
jyandt.mar...@comcast.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2018 11:53 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Find Function in MS Word 13

Morning all.

I have a curious problem regarding MS Word 2013. For some strange reason, I
cannot seem to get the Control F (find) function to work. I can go through
the ribbons and get to the function that way, but it will not work either. 
Has anyone ever come across this problem as well, and if so, what was the
remedy? Using JAWS 2018 and Windows 10 on a Dell laptop. Thanks in advance.

Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Find Function in MS Word 13

[Rebecca Lineberger]

I find that the JAWS find command works much better in Word.
Insert-control-f
Insert f3 for find again.
JAWS goes right to the search string without having to close an edit box.
HTH.
Rebecca
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Behalf Of jyandt.mar...@comcast.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2018 11:53 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Find Function in MS Word 13

Morning all.

I have a curious problem regarding MS Word 2013. For some strange reason, I
cannot seem to get the Control F (find) function to work. I can go through
the ribbons and get to the function that way, but it will not work either.
Has anyone ever come across this problem as well, and if so, what was the
remedy? Using JAWS 2018 and Windows 10 on a Dell laptop. Thanks in advance.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Safely Remove Hardware, Followup

[Rebecca Lineberger]

I copied the quote from a Microsoft page that had nothing to do with JAWS.
The sighted person said the text message did not appear at all.--" There is
just a quick blink on the Taskbar".  Presumably if the text is not there,
JAWS can not read it.  Smile.   The person answering had no suggestions for
correcting this in Windows 10 home edition, , nor any idea as to what had
changed.

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Behalf Of joseph.lee22...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2018 12:26 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Safely Remove Hardware, Followup

Hi,
There is an active discussion on Win10 (groups.io) forum where people wrote
about various avenues it may occur. So far, the top two possibilities are
either:
1. Notification announcement is turned off in JAWS.
2. A specific Win32 host process isn't running.

As a follow-up, someone posted instructions on restoring help balloons.
Cheers,
Joseph

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From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of
Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2018 6:10 AM
To: jaws user's list <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Safely Remove Hardware, Followup

I Googled the problem.  There were solutions posted for Windows 10 Pro but
not for the Home version.  But I found this interesting.  It's not JAWS
fault, since it seems there is no message displayed.

Someone wrote:

I'm glad I found this thread... I am having a similar issue...

 

When "Safely Removing" using the Icon on the lower right of the Taskbar, the
Safe Removal confirmation message no longer appears...

 

There is just a quick blink on the Taskbar... Checking ThisPC afterwards
shows the drive in question has been removed...

Maybe Microsoft will fix this in a later update.

Rebecca

 

 

 

 

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[JAWS-Users] Safely Remove Hardware, Followup

[Rebecca Lineberger]

I Googled the problem.  There were solutions posted for Windows 10 Pro but
not for the Home version.  But I found this interesting.  It's not JAWS
fault, since it seems there is no message displayed.

Someone wrote:

I'm glad I found this thread... I am having a similar issue...

 

When "Safely Removing" using the Icon on the lower right of the Taskbar, the
Safe Removal confirmation message no longer appears...

 

There is just a quick blink on the Taskbar... Checking ThisPC afterwards
shows the drive in question has been removed...

Maybe Microsoft will fix this in a later update.

Rebecca

 

 

 

 

A mind is like a parachute.  It doesn't work if it isn't open.

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Safe To Remove Hardware Message

[Rebecca Lineberger]

I have all icons set to display in the system tray.  The safely remove
hardware and eject media is always there, whether I have a drive inserted or
not.
And Adrian, I turned JAWS off from the system tray, and then turned it back
on.  All the extra JAWS icons disappeared.  I did try several of the icons,
and they all were active, allowing me to exit JAWS.  

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2018 6:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Safe To Remove Hardware Message

Hi Adrian,

Like you I want the extra confirmation, but although Jaws doesn't report the
message consistently any more the removal process is being completed.  When
the removal process is completed the Safely Remove icon disappears from the
system tray unless you have more than 1 external drive running which I'm
prone to do.  But, let's say you have 3 external drives running and their
drive letters are L, M, & N.  You want to remove drive M, you open the
Safely Remove from the system tray, choose driveM, and press enter.  Now,
Jaws doesn't report the drive is safe to remove, but if you look in,
Computer, driveM won't be showing which means it's safe to remove.

If you're only running 1 external drive, after you choose it from the Safely
Remove icon, and Jaws doesn't report it to be safe to remove, look in,
Computer, and if you don't see it in the drive list it's safe to remove.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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From: Adrian Spratt
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2018 2:01 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Safe To Remove Hardware Message


Mike, just a thought. Before going to the system tray, do you close the
window displaying that drive's contents? Then does the confirmation show up
in the system tray?

A related point: My tech consultant says that removing an item, such as an
SD card, can be done safely so long as the window is closed. He'd say, then,
that even if you aren't getting that reassuring confirmation, you'll be
okay. Even so, I admit I take the extra precaution of getting system tray
confirmation.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Mike B.
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2018 2:49 PM
To: Jaws-Users List 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Safe To Remove Hardware Message

Hi All,

Running Widows 10 Pro Version 1803 (OS Build 17134.81) with Jaws 16 thru
J2018 latest.  Whenever I want to eject / remove an external harddrive I
click on the system tray icon, choose the device, and press enter on it, but
Jaws doesn't report the following:


Safe To Remove Hardware: The 'USB Mass Storage Device' device can now be
safely removed from the computer.

Can anyone tell me how to get Jaws to report the message above?  Or, what
setting is supposed to be activated to report the message above?  All help
will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks mooy moocho.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Safe To Remove Hardware Message

[Rebecca Lineberger]

Adrian,
Thanks for reminding me about the speech history.
-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2018 5:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Safe To Remove Hardware Message

Rebecca, if I understand one of your points correctly, you can replay JAWS
verbalizations by pressing JAWS key+spacebar, then separately h. Wait a few
moments, then arrow down through the text. Press escape to get out of the
window.
As for those JAWS icons in the system tray, yes, one appears each time you
unload and reload JAWS.  However, only one will bring up the JAWS window.
Click on the others and the icon disappears. Which one is the active one?
I'm not sure there's a pattern.

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Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2018 5:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Safe To Remove Hardware Message

Hello Mike.
I'm running Windows 10, 1803, with JAWS 2018, May update.
I recently noticed that when I go to the system tray to remove a drive, I no
longer receive the message that it's safe to remove the drive.
Another friend called me yesterday with the same issue.  I just assume that
it's safe.  If I go back to the system tray before removing the drive, the
option to remove it shows as unavailable, as it should.
I don't know how to capture or replay those fleeting messages with JAWS.  If
I virtualize the window, JAWS says there's no text.  I haven't had a sighted
person look at the screen.
I can use the context menu on the drive, but again, I get no spoken message.
On another matter, has anyone else seen multiple copies of JAWS shown in the
system tray after JAWS was shut down and restarted?  Shouldn't JAWS be
removed if it's shut down.  This happens with both insert-f4 and
insert-windows-f4. Sometimes my save as menu won't work in Word.  If I shut
JAWS down and bring it back, the menu reads as it should. 
I much prefer running JAWS from the system tray, so that it won't be in the
alt-tab line up.
Sorry I don't have an answer for you, and maybe a lot of us, about
disappeared messages.  Smile.
Rebecca
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Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2018 2:49 PM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Safe To Remove Hardware Message

Hi All,

Running Widows 10 Pro Version 1803 (OS Build 17134.81) with Jaws 16 thru
J2018 latest.  Whenever I want to eject / remove an external harddrive I
click on the system tray icon, choose the device, and press enter on it, but
Jaws doesn't report the following:


Safe To Remove Hardware: The 'USB Mass Storage Device' device can now be
safely removed from the computer.

Can anyone tell me how to get Jaws to report the message above?  Or, what
setting is supposed to be activated to report the message above?  All help
will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks mooy moocho.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Safe To Remove Hardware Message

[Rebecca Lineberger]

Hello Mike.
I'm running Windows 10, 1803, with JAWS 2018, May update.
I recently noticed that when I go to the system tray to remove a drive, I no
longer receive the message that it's safe to remove the drive.
Another friend called me yesterday with the same issue.  I just assume that
it's safe.  If I go back to the system tray before removing the drive, the
option to remove it shows as unavailable, as it should.
I don't know how to capture or replay those fleeting messages with JAWS.  If
I virtualize the window, JAWS says there's no text.  I haven't had a sighted
person look at the screen.
I can use the context menu on the drive, but again, I get no spoken message.
On another matter, has anyone else seen multiple copies of JAWS shown in the
system tray after JAWS was shut down and restarted?  Shouldn't JAWS be
removed if it's shut down.  This happens with both insert-f4 and
insert-windows-f4. Sometimes my save as menu won't work in Word.  If I shut
JAWS down and bring it back, the menu reads as it should. 
I much prefer running JAWS from the system tray, so that it won't be in the
alt-tab line up.
Sorry I don't have an answer for you, and maybe a lot of us, about
disappeared messages.  Smile.
Rebecca
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2018 2:49 PM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Safe To Remove Hardware Message

Hi All,

Running Widows 10 Pro Version 1803 (OS Build 17134.81) with Jaws 16 thru
J2018 latest.  Whenever I want to eject / remove an external harddrive I
click on the system tray icon, choose the device, and press enter on it, but
Jaws doesn't report the following:


Safe To Remove Hardware: The 'USB Mass Storage Device' device can now be
safely removed from the computer.

Can anyone tell me how to get Jaws to report the message above?  Or, what
setting is supposed to be activated to report the message above?  All help
will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks mooy moocho.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] google told me someone tried to use my account

[Rebecca Lineberger]

Google is very security-conscious.
Go to 
My Account
Control, protect, and secure your account, all in one place
My Account gives you quick access to settings and tools that let you
safeguard your data, protect your privacy, and decide how your information
can make
Google services work better for you. 
If your password may have been compromised, change it.
Good luck.
Rebecca
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of andy 
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 8:47 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] google told me someone tried to use my account

Has anyone else had this? Is it real? Now everytime I send a messege I have
to put in my password. I am using jaws 17, windows 8 and I think outlook
2010

Can someone help me so I do not have to put in  apassword everytime I want
to send a messege.. 

Thank you 

andy

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Superscript in Word 2016

[Rebecca Lineberger]

Yes, smile, but the brain, my brain, seems to remember "p" for proofreading, 
more easily than "c" for classic attributes and font info.  Whatever works!  
LOL.   
Actually now that I know Word is reliably printing super and sub scripts as 
instructed, I will probably take them for granted.
But if I were taking chemistry, I would definitely have that proofreading 
scheme on so that I would hear formulas as written.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2018 1:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Superscript in Word 2016

You've solved the problem for your needs, Rebecca, but I note that the "classic 
attributes and font" speech and sounds scheme picks up superscript.

Your posts on this subject have been very helpful, as usual.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2018 12:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Superscript in Word 2016

I suppose it's one of those things where some like one option rather than 
another.  The Windows-alt-I alerts me at each instance of super- and subscript. 
 But it's almost as easy to change schemes:
Insert-alt-s
And press p for proofreading attributes and font info.
Then I can arrow through the document, up, down, left, right, or use say all, 
and the different scrips will be demonstrated by a change in pitch.
If I only had one instance of a change, I would go for the Windows-alt-I, but 
if I wanted to read and review a document, it's good the other option is there. 
If I remember correctly from playing with it yesterday, there are other schemes 
that alert for superscript, but p for proofreading is easy to remember.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2018 11:05 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Superscript in Word 2016

Hi, Fernando. Your instructions are absolutely correct. The only difference is 
that the English version gives "1st" as the ordinal example. I had it checked 
already, and it seems to be working for me. 

My confusion arose because I couldn't get JAWS to confirm that superscript 
letters were, in fact, superscript. As Rebecca posted, the problem arises from 
VFO's decision to remove superscript and subscript from the classic speech and 
sounds scheme. Strangely, although I've restored them to my default speech and 
sounds scheme, JAWS is still not verbalizing either format when I move 
character by character. I have to press JAWS key-f, which works for me but not 
for Rebecca. Her solution is Windows key-alt-I, which at least takes you up to 
the point where the format changes. So does Text Analyzer, but on my system, TA 
just verbalizes a change in format without specifying what that format is. 

Astounding that JAWS users have to put so much thought and work into a detail 
like this. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Fernando Gregoire
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 10:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Superscript in Word 2016

Hi Adrian,

You were told nice alternatives to make JAWS report superscript and subscript, 
so it makes no sense I repeat many things others already said.
Regarding Word automatically not changing ordinals, this is controlled by the 
AutoFormat As You Type auto-correct options. These options are per-program 
basis, so it is normal it is enabled in Outlook and disabled in Word.
To enable this in Word, go to the File tab, Word Options.
In the Categories list box, choose Proofing and tab to the Auto-Correct Options.
In the dialog opened by this button, press CTRL+TAB until you reach the 
AutoFormat As You Type page. Then tab to a checkbox like Ordinals (1th) with 
Superscript and press SPACE BAR to check this. I can't give you the exact name 
of this checkbox, since many options of this tab have language-specific names. 
In the case of ordinals, in Spanish there are both two specific symbols and, in 
practice, many people incorrectly use suffixes like “do”, “ra”, etc.

Hope it helps!
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 10:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Superscript in Word 2016

Hi. In previous versions of Word, superscript would be verbalized when I moved 
character by character. also, when I typed a number such as 14th, Word would 
automatically make the "th" superscript. Neither is happening with Word 2016 
and the current release of JAWS 2018. Even more disconcerting, a sighted 
assistant tells me that sometimes t

Re: [JAWS-Users] Superscript in Word 2016

[Rebecca Lineberger]

I suppose it's one of those things where some like one option rather than 
another.  The Windows-alt-I alerts me at each instance of super- and subscript. 
 But it's almost as easy to change schemes:
Insert-alt-s
And press p for proofreading attributes and font info.
Then I can arrow through the document, up, down, left, right, or use say all, 
and the different scrips will be demonstrated by a change in pitch.
If I only had one instance of a change, I would go for the Windows-alt-I, but 
if I wanted to read and review a document, it's good the other option is there. 
If I remember correctly from playing with it yesterday, there are other schemes 
that alert for superscript, but p for proofreading is easy to remember.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2018 11:05 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Superscript in Word 2016

Hi, Fernando. Your instructions are absolutely correct. The only difference is 
that the English version gives "1st" as the ordinal example. I had it checked 
already, and it seems to be working for me. 

My confusion arose because I couldn't get JAWS to confirm that superscript 
letters were, in fact, superscript. As Rebecca posted, the problem arises from 
VFO's decision to remove superscript and subscript from the classic speech and 
sounds scheme. Strangely, although I've restored them to my default speech and 
sounds scheme, JAWS is still not verbalizing either format when I move 
character by character. I have to press JAWS key-f, which works for me but not 
for Rebecca. Her solution is Windows key-alt-I, which at least takes you up to 
the point where the format changes. So does Text Analyzer, but on my system, TA 
just verbalizes a change in format without specifying what that format is. 

Astounding that JAWS users have to put so much thought and work into a detail 
like this. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
Fernando Gregoire
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 10:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Superscript in Word 2016

Hi Adrian,

You were told nice alternatives to make JAWS report superscript and subscript, 
so it makes no sense I repeat many things others already said.
Regarding Word automatically not changing ordinals, this is controlled by the 
AutoFormat As You Type auto-correct options. These options are per-program 
basis, so it is normal it is enabled in Outlook and disabled in Word.
To enable this in Word, go to the File tab, Word Options.
In the Categories list box, choose Proofing and tab to the Auto-Correct Options.
In the dialog opened by this button, press CTRL+TAB until you reach the 
AutoFormat As You Type page. Then tab to a checkbox like Ordinals (1th) with 
Superscript and press SPACE BAR to check this. I can't give you the exact name 
of this checkbox, since many options of this tab have language-specific names. 
In the case of ordinals, in Spanish there are both two specific symbols and, in 
practice, many people incorrectly use suffixes like “do”, “ra”, etc.

Hope it helps!
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 10:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Superscript in Word 2016

Hi. In previous versions of Word, superscript would be verbalized when I moved 
character by character. also, when I typed a number such as 14th, Word would 
automatically make the "th" superscript. Neither is happening with Word 2016 
and the current release of JAWS 2018. Even more disconcerting, a sighted 
assistant tells me that sometimes the "th" or "nd" is superscript, sometimes 
not, probably because I'm working in a document created in an earlier version 
of Word.

Can anyone suggest how:

  1.  To get Word to make "th" and "nd" in numbers like 14th and 2nd 
automatically appear as superscript?
  2.  To get JAWS to report superscript, and also subscript, in Word documents? 
I looked at the intermediate settings  for anything that might help, but 
nothing leapt out.

Note: Superscript is handled fine in Outlook 2016, which I have tethered to 
Word 2016.

Thanks.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Superscript in Word 2016

[Rebecca Lineberger]

Adrian,
The windows-alt-I command does tell you.
Rebecca
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 6:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Superscript in Word 2016

Text Analyzer tells you there is a change in font, not what that change is.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of
Justin Williams
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 6:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Superscript in Word 2016

Can't you use text analyzer ot see if you have a superscript?
 Justin 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 12:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Superscript in Word 2016

The JAWS key-f does not give superscript information for me.
If I want to proofread a document, I just switch to a proofreading sound
scheme to verify that all is as it should be, then switch back to Word
Classic.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 12:14 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Superscript in Word 2016

Thanks, Rebecca. Meanwhile, I determined that JAWS key+f, the keystroke for
format information, will verbalize if a character is superscript. 
I just twice went through the entire process of adding superscript and
subscript to my default speech and sound scheme, both times with the
modified version saved and confirmed as my default, but nothing has changed.
I still need to go through my ordinals manually and press JAWS key-f on each
character I want shown in superscript to confirm that it is.
Also, I'm still looking, but I can't find the control in Word for
automatically putting letters after ordinals in superscript.
Why did MS and VFO make each part of this difficult when it was so simple in
previous versions? Rhetorical question.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of
Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 11:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Superscript in Word 2016

Aha!  The answer.
JAWS Speech and Sound Schemes
Word Classic
JAWS will behave like prior versions with Format and Text options switched
off, except that subscripts and superscripts are suppressed.
So, if you want to know if the superscripts are there, you have to switch to
one of the schemes that give you information about font..
Insert-alt-s.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 11:11 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Superscript in Word 2016

Adrian, for what this is worth, smile.
The Microsoft support page says:
Insert subscript or superscript text
Applies To: Word for Office 365,Outlook for Office 365,Word 2016,Outlook
2016,Word 2013,Outlook 2013,Word 2010,Outlook 2010,Word 2007,Outlook
2007,Word Online,Word Starter 2010, Less article Superscript and subscript
refer to numbers that are positioned slightly higher or slightly lower than
the text on the line. For example, chemical formulas use subscript (H2O),
and an exponent is often formatted as a superscript (X4).

Examples of Subscript and Superscript formatting

Make text subscript or superscript
list of 3 items
1. Select the text that you want to format as subscript or superscript.

2. Do one of the following:

list of 2 items nesting level 1
On the Home tab, in the Font group, click Subscript. Or press CTRL+=.

the subscript command in the font group

On the Home tab, in the Font group, click Superscript. Or press
CTRL+SHIFT+=.

the superscript command in the font group list end nesting level 1

Note: Keyboard shortcuts do not work if you are using Word Online.

3. To undo the formatting, click the Subscript or Superscript button again,
or repeat the keyboard shortcut.
list end
I tried this, and JAWS 2018 does not tell me that the th in 4th, for example
is written in superscript.  
In Office 2010, under options, proofing, I can choose to have superscript
and subscript used or not.  I've played with settings, but again, JAWS 2018
does not tell me.  Perhaps there's a setting in JAWS that needs to be
enabled that I don't know about?  Smile.  
Or perhaps Word is ignoring instructions?  LOL.  I've not asked a sighted
person to check.
Rebecca
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 9:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Superscript in Word 2016

Hi. In previous versions of Word, superscript would be verbalized 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Superscript in Word 2016

[Rebecca Lineberger]

Smile.  Actually you can.  The windows-alt-I command works better, for me,
than using the layered keystrokes. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 6:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Superscript in Word 2016

Can’t you use text analyzer ot see if you have a superscript?
 Justin 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 12:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Superscript in Word 2016

The JAWS key-f does not give superscript information for me.
If I want to proofread a document, I just switch to a proofreading sound
scheme to verify that all is as it should be, then switch back to Word
Classic.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 12:14 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Superscript in Word 2016

Thanks, Rebecca. Meanwhile, I determined that JAWS key+f, the keystroke for
format information, will verbalize if a character is superscript. 
I just twice went through the entire process of adding superscript and
subscript to my default speech and sound scheme, both times with the
modified version saved and confirmed as my default, but nothing has changed.
I still need to go through my ordinals manually and press JAWS key-f on each
character I want shown in superscript to confirm that it is.
Also, I'm still looking, but I can't find the control in Word for
automatically putting letters after ordinals in superscript.
Why did MS and VFO make each part of this difficult when it was so simple in
previous versions? Rhetorical question.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of
Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 11:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Superscript in Word 2016

Aha!  The answer.
JAWS Speech and Sound Schemes
Word Classic
JAWS will behave like prior versions with Format and Text options switched
off, except that subscripts and superscripts are suppressed.
So, if you want to know if the superscripts are there, you have to switch to
one of the schemes that give you information about font..
Insert-alt-s.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 11:11 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Superscript in Word 2016

Adrian, for what this is worth, smile.
The Microsoft support page says:
Insert subscript or superscript text
Applies To: Word for Office 365,Outlook for Office 365,Word 2016,Outlook
2016,Word 2013,Outlook 2013,Word 2010,Outlook 2010,Word 2007,Outlook
2007,Word Online,Word Starter 2010, Less article Superscript and subscript
refer to numbers that are positioned slightly higher or slightly lower than
the text on the line. For example, chemical formulas use subscript (H2O),
and an exponent is often formatted as a superscript (X4).

Examples of Subscript and Superscript formatting

Make text subscript or superscript
list of 3 items
1. Select the text that you want to format as subscript or superscript.

2. Do one of the following:

list of 2 items nesting level 1
On the Home tab, in the Font group, click Subscript. Or press CTRL+=.

the subscript command in the font group

On the Home tab, in the Font group, click Superscript. Or press
CTRL+SHIFT+=.

the superscript command in the font group list end nesting level 1

Note: Keyboard shortcuts do not work if you are using Word Online.

3. To undo the formatting, click the Subscript or Superscript button again,
or repeat the keyboard shortcut.
list end
I tried this, and JAWS 2018 does not tell me that the th in 4th, for example
is written in superscript.  
In Office 2010, under options, proofing, I can choose to have superscript
and subscript used or not.  I've played with settings, but again, JAWS 2018
does not tell me.  Perhaps there's a setting in JAWS that needs to be
enabled that I don't know about?  Smile.  
Or perhaps Word is ignoring instructions?  LOL.  I've not asked a sighted
person to check.
Rebecca
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 9:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Superscript in Word 2016

Hi. In previous versions of Word, superscript would be verbalized when I
moved character by character. also, when I typed a number such as 14th, Word
would automatically make the "th" superscript. Neither is happening with
Word 2016 and the current release of JAWS 2018. Even more disconcerting, a
sighted assistant tells m

Re: [JAWS-Users] Superscript in Word 2016

[Rebecca Lineberger]

The JAWS key-f does not give superscript information for me.
If I want to proofread a document, I just switch to a proofreading sound
scheme to verify that all is as it should be, then switch back to Word
Classic.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 12:14 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Superscript in Word 2016

Thanks, Rebecca. Meanwhile, I determined that JAWS key+f, the keystroke for
format information, will verbalize if a character is superscript. 
I just twice went through the entire process of adding superscript and
subscript to my default speech and sound scheme, both times with the
modified version saved and confirmed as my default, but nothing has changed.
I still need to go through my ordinals manually and press JAWS key-f on each
character I want shown in superscript to confirm that it is.
Also, I'm still looking, but I can't find the control in Word for
automatically putting letters after ordinals in superscript.
Why did MS and VFO make each part of this difficult when it was so simple in
previous versions? Rhetorical question.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of
Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 11:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Superscript in Word 2016

Aha!  The answer.
JAWS Speech and Sound Schemes
Word Classic
JAWS will behave like prior versions with Format and Text options switched
off, except that subscripts and superscripts are suppressed.
So, if you want to know if the superscripts are there, you have to switch to
one of the schemes that give you information about font..
Insert-alt-s.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 11:11 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Superscript in Word 2016

Adrian, for what this is worth, smile.
The Microsoft support page says:
Insert subscript or superscript text
Applies To: Word for Office 365,Outlook for Office 365,Word 2016,Outlook
2016,Word 2013,Outlook 2013,Word 2010,Outlook 2010,Word 2007,Outlook
2007,Word Online,Word Starter 2010, Less article Superscript and subscript
refer to numbers that are positioned slightly higher or slightly lower than
the text on the line. For example, chemical formulas use subscript (H2O),
and an exponent is often formatted as a superscript (X4).

Examples of Subscript and Superscript formatting

Make text subscript or superscript
list of 3 items
1. Select the text that you want to format as subscript or superscript.

2. Do one of the following:

list of 2 items nesting level 1
On the Home tab, in the Font group, click Subscript. Or press CTRL+=.

the subscript command in the font group

On the Home tab, in the Font group, click Superscript. Or press
CTRL+SHIFT+=.

the superscript command in the font group list end nesting level 1

Note: Keyboard shortcuts do not work if you are using Word Online.

3. To undo the formatting, click the Subscript or Superscript button again,
or repeat the keyboard shortcut.
list end
I tried this, and JAWS 2018 does not tell me that the th in 4th, for example
is written in superscript.  
In Office 2010, under options, proofing, I can choose to have superscript
and subscript used or not.  I've played with settings, but again, JAWS 2018
does not tell me.  Perhaps there's a setting in JAWS that needs to be
enabled that I don't know about?  Smile.  
Or perhaps Word is ignoring instructions?  LOL.  I've not asked a sighted
person to check.
Rebecca
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 9:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Superscript in Word 2016

Hi. In previous versions of Word, superscript would be verbalized when I
moved character by character. also, when I typed a number such as 14th, Word
would automatically make the "th" superscript. Neither is happening with
Word 2016 and the current release of JAWS 2018. Even more disconcerting, a
sighted assistant tells me that sometimes the "th" or "nd" is superscript,
sometimes not, probably because I'm working in a document created in an
earlier version of Word.

Can anyone suggest how:

  1.  To get Word to make "th" and "nd" in numbers like 14th and 2nd
automatically appear as superscript?
  2.  To get JAWS to report superscript, and also subscript, in Word
documents? I looked at the intermediate settings  for anything that might
help, but nothing leapt out.

Note: Superscript is handled fine in Outlook 2016, which I have tethered to
Word 2016.

Thanks.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Superscript in Word 2016

[Rebecca Lineberger]

Aha!  The answer.
JAWS Speech and Sound Schemes
Word Classic
JAWS will behave like prior versions with Format and Text options switched
off, except that subscripts and superscripts are suppressed.
So, if you want to know if the superscripts are there, you have to switch to
one of the schemes that give you information about font..
Insert-alt-s.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 11:11 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Superscript in Word 2016

Adrian, for what this is worth, smile.
The Microsoft support page says:
Insert subscript or superscript text
Applies To: Word for Office 365,Outlook for Office 365,Word 2016,Outlook
2016,Word 2013,Outlook 2013,Word 2010,Outlook 2010,Word 2007,Outlook
2007,Word Online,Word Starter 2010, Less article Superscript and subscript
refer to numbers that are positioned slightly higher or slightly lower than
the text on the line. For example, chemical formulas use subscript (H2O),
and an exponent is often formatted as a superscript (X4).

Examples of Subscript and Superscript formatting

Make text subscript or superscript
list of 3 items
1. Select the text that you want to format as subscript or superscript.

2. Do one of the following:

list of 2 items nesting level 1
On the Home tab, in the Font group, click Subscript. Or press CTRL+=.

the subscript command in the font group

On the Home tab, in the Font group, click Superscript. Or press
CTRL+SHIFT+=.

the superscript command in the font group list end nesting level 1

Note: Keyboard shortcuts do not work if you are using Word Online.

3. To undo the formatting, click the Subscript or Superscript button again,
or repeat the keyboard shortcut.
list end
I tried this, and JAWS 2018 does not tell me that the th in 4th, for example
is written in superscript.  
In Office 2010, under options, proofing, I can choose to have superscript
and subscript used or not.  I've played with settings, but again, JAWS 2018
does not tell me.  Perhaps there's a setting in JAWS that needs to be
enabled that I don't know about?  Smile.  
Or perhaps Word is ignoring instructions?  LOL.  I've not asked a sighted
person to check.
Rebecca
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 9:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Superscript in Word 2016

Hi. In previous versions of Word, superscript would be verbalized when I
moved character by character. also, when I typed a number such as 14th, Word
would automatically make the "th" superscript. Neither is happening with
Word 2016 and the current release of JAWS 2018. Even more disconcerting, a
sighted assistant tells me that sometimes the "th" or "nd" is superscript,
sometimes not, probably because I'm working in a document created in an
earlier version of Word.

Can anyone suggest how:

  1.  To get Word to make "th" and "nd" in numbers like 14th and 2nd
automatically appear as superscript?
  2.  To get JAWS to report superscript, and also subscript, in Word
documents? I looked at the intermediate settings  for anything that might
help, but nothing leapt out.

Note: Superscript is handled fine in Outlook 2016, which I have tethered to
Word 2016.

Thanks.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Superscript in Word 2016

[Rebecca Lineberger]

Adrian, for what this is worth, smile.
The Microsoft support page says:
Insert subscript or superscript text
Applies To: Word for Office 365,Outlook for Office 365,Word 2016,Outlook
2016,Word 2013,Outlook 2013,Word 2010,Outlook 2010,Word 2007,Outlook
2007,Word
Online,Word Starter 2010,
Less
article
Superscript and subscript refer to numbers that are positioned slightly
higher or slightly lower than the text on the line. For example, chemical
formulas
use subscript (H2O), and an exponent is often formatted as a superscript
(X4).

Examples of Subscript and Superscript formatting

Make text subscript or superscript
list of 3 items
1. Select the text that you want to format as subscript or superscript.

2. Do one of the following:

list of 2 items nesting level 1
On the Home tab, in the Font group, click Subscript. Or press CTRL+=.

the subscript command in the font group

On the Home tab, in the Font group, click Superscript. Or press
CTRL+SHIFT+=.

the superscript command in the font group
list end nesting level 1

Note: Keyboard shortcuts do not work if you are using Word Online.

3. To undo the formatting, click the Subscript or Superscript button again,
or repeat the keyboard shortcut.
list end
I tried this, and JAWS 2018 does not tell me that the th in 4th, for example
is written in superscript.  
In Office 2010, under options, proofing, I can choose to have superscript
and subscript used or not.  I've played with settings, but again, JAWS 2018
does not tell me.  Perhaps there's a setting in JAWS that needs to be
enabled that I don't know about?  Smile.  
Or perhaps Word is ignoring instructions?  LOL.  I've not asked a sighted
person to check.
Rebecca
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 9:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Superscript in Word 2016

Hi. In previous versions of Word, superscript would be verbalized when I
moved character by character. also, when I typed a number such as 14th, Word
would automatically make the "th" superscript. Neither is happening with
Word 2016 and the current release of JAWS 2018. Even more disconcerting, a
sighted assistant tells me that sometimes the "th" or "nd" is superscript,
sometimes not, probably because I'm working in a document created in an
earlier version of Word.

Can anyone suggest how:

  1.  To get Word to make "th" and "nd" in numbers like 14th and 2nd
automatically appear as superscript?
  2.  To get JAWS to report superscript, and also subscript, in Word
documents? I looked at the intermediate settings  for anything that might
help, but nothing leapt out.

Note: Superscript is handled fine in Outlook 2016, which I have tethered to
Word 2016.

Thanks.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Of Possible Interest Windows 10 Information

[Rebecca Lineberger]

They're for 1803 so I doubt Bard has them.  You could download them from
Bookshare as MP3 audio and play them on the NLS player.
I got them as epub books and used Edge to open and read them.
But I've not done more than glance at them.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2018 3:17 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Of Possible Interest Windows 10 Information

Hi Rebecca,

Do you know if these books are available from BARD?  Or is this just a
Victor Reader thing?  Thanks much.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message -
From: Rebecca Lineberger
To: jaws user's list
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2018 4:18 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Of Possible Interest Windows 10 Information


For those who have access to Bookshare:

Windows 10 For Dummies

Andy Rathbone

2018

04/20/18

Windows 10 For Seniors For Dummies

Peter Weverka

2018

04/24/18



HTH.

Rebecca

Angels can fly because they take themselves lightly.

G. K. Chesterton



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[JAWS-Users] Of Possible Interest Windows 10 Information

[Rebecca Lineberger]

For those who have access to Bookshare:

Windows 10 For Dummies

Andy Rathbone

2018

04/20/18

Windows 10 For Seniors For Dummies

Peter Weverka

2018

04/24/18

 

HTH.

Rebecca

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G. K. Chesterton

 

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[JAWS-Users] A Comment About Control-y In Outlook

[Rebecca Lineberger]

Control-y brings up a complete folder list.  I never miss calendar and
contacts when using the shift-tab method because I use control-2 for
Calendar and control-3 for Contacts.  Control-6 brings up the complete
folder list with Suggested Contacts if you don't remember control-y.  Smile.

The suggested contacts is useful on occasion.  I go in there every so often
and clean out the scads of contacts Outlook has automatically added that I
know I will never use.

If you're in Calendar or Contacts, control-1 will bring you back to your
in-box. 

Rebecca

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Outlook

[Rebecca Lineberger]

Hello David,
I'm using Outlook 2010, and this does work, with the comment that the first
press of "C" Brought me to calendar.  I could press "C" again, or arrow down
once to get to contacts.
You taught me something I did not know. I like to keep a list of all my
email contacts in both a Word and WordPad document as a backup.  I've always
gone to contacts with 
Control-3
After copying an email address to add,
and then pressed
Control-n
To add a new contact.  
Your way would be quicker if I had an email message handy, smile, though I
would always add the address to my Word and WordPad docs too.
I also forget about the 
Control-y
To bring up the folder list, since my hands automatically press
Shift-tab to get to the folder list.
As usual, ways and ways...
Rebecca
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Whitehead
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 5:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Outlook

Ok;

The keystroke ctrl+shift+y=Copy a Folder So, to add contact to the contacts
folder,

1, enter on the message which contains the email address,

2, use the keystroke, ctrl+shift+y=copy A Folder, You will hear jaws say
something like, Copy item to dialog,

3, press the letter c=contacts press enter, Within a few seconds you should
see the Contact property page with all the contact information, You can
check this by using the tab key.
If your satisfied, just press alt+s=save.
You will be placed back into the message.
This does work with 2016, 2013, I would assume it would work in 2010 also.
Again, the ctrl+shift+y is a office  keystroke.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Miriam Vieni
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 4:20 PM
To: jaws users list 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Outlook

With a lot of help from David Whitehead, my Outlook 2016 is working. But the
auto complete isn't so basically, I suppose there's still something
corrupted. The Microsoft person told me that he'd emptied auto complete, and
that if I write the first few letters and press control K, I'd get a list of
relevant addresses from which I could choose. I tried that just now with my
daughter's address and the list the control K brought up was completely
irrelevant. And I still have to paste in the correct address for the DB
Review list. David helped me upgrade to Jaws 2018 and we got rid of the to
Miriam folder,so I think that auto complete is just not going to happen,
except for the blind democracy list for some unknown reason.

Miriam  


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[JAWS-Users] JAWS Latest Updates Several Unresolved Issues

[Rebecca Lineberger]

In "Research It," the stock quote still does not work.  It still says that
it times out while searching for the stock.

And the calculator still does not reliably speak the answer when dividing a
number.

Rebecca

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[JAWS-Users] Amazon Accessibility It's Fixed For Me

[Rebecca Lineberger]

But not for my friend.  Computers! Sigh.

Thanks to all who tried to help.  It has to be Amazon since I changed
nothing, and all of a sudden, the page loads properly.  

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon Accessibility Issue

[Rebecca Lineberger]

She needed to change the expiration date on the card.  And my data is in
their system and I have no link.  
Besides, even if you were new and needed to set up an account, you would
need that link to set one up, I should think.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dave...Oregonian
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 11:22 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon Accessibility Issue

Sounds like your friend has not yet set up any credit or debit cards. If
they have not, then they would not have any payment options.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message -
From: "Rebecca Lineberger" <drlineber...@embarqmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 06:48
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon Accessibility Issue


You have to be logged in or you can't get to that Account Options, as the
Amazon Disability person referred to it, or to the Payment Options link.
Even when I was logged in on the main page, I was asked to log in again when
I pressed enter on the
Your Account
Link.
It needs to know who we are to know what account info to access.  Smile.
We used to have three site options for Amazon:  The main site, a really
simplified site and one in-between.  On this middle one, there was a link at
the bottom to let you return to the main site.  Those choices seem to have
been taken away now. I think it's patronizing to automatically be sent to a
site for screen readers, if that's what's happening.  There are those who
prefer the supposedly more accessible sites, but others not.  And we as
users should be in control of which to use.  Smile.  JMO.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 8:27 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon Accessibility Issue

Rebecca, did you make sure you were logged in when you did your tests?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of
Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 7:49 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon Accessibility Issue

I went back to Amazon this morning.  My friend had gone all down the Your
Account Page, line by line, with the Amazon Disability person, and there was
no Account Options.
She'd also had JAWS, as did I last night, search for the word Options.
JAWS said it was not there.
This morning, after having read several List responses, I had JAWS search
for the word Payment, And again, that was not there.
My friend does not have
Amazon Prime.
Nor do I.
There was a link for managing one's Prime Account, but this brought me no
joy as a roundabout way of getting to Account or Payment Options Since I was
told immediately that I did not have Amazon Prime.
Here is what I see when I go to the
Your Account
Page:
JAWS says there are 11 links.
Your Account
Amazon.com
Your Account
View Orders
Choose Period:
Open and recently shipped orders
Continue
Amazon Prime
Manage Prime Membership
Gift Cards
Search
Go
Cart
Your Account
1-Click Settings
List & Registry
Find a List or Registry
Sign Out
Help
Home
Legal Terms
Several people said they could reach the Payment Options Link using IE11,
JAWS 2010 and Windows 10.  This is what my friend is using.
But to test, this morning, I loaded IE11 and went back to Amazon.  For me,
it made no difference.  I got the same page with the information copied
above.
I've gone to Amazon from the link on my desktop, as well as from a Google
search, just in case that made a difference.  It doesn't..
I wonder why some can access this and others of us cannot.
Since email addresses change, and the expiration numbers on credit cards
change every couple of years, or shipping addresses may change, we need
access to the account information page.
Admittedly it's got to be frustrating if results can differ, even when the
operating system, browser and screen reader version are the same, but this
is why I put this out on the JAWS Users' List to see if the problem my
friend and I are having could be replicated.
Thanks to those who responded, but if anyone is having similar issues, I'd
like to know, and Amazon needs to be alerted so that they know how
widespread the problem is.
Rebecca
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 12:09 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon Accessibility Issue

I forgot to mention I used IE11 to confirm my experience. My system is Win7,
and I had JAWS 17 loaded.

-Original Message-
From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 12:06 AM
To: 'jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com' <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: RE: [JAWS

Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon Accessibility Issue

[Rebecca Lineberger]

We don't have a choice as we used to.  I go to the main site, amazon.com.
As I've said, I've tried from the link on my desktop as well as from a
Google search for Amazon.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dave...Oregonian
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 11:18 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon Accessibility Issue

Nothing to do with Prime -- I don't have it, either. Is your friend using
the accessibility version of the Amazon site? I don't.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message -
From: "Rebecca Lineberger" <drlineber...@embarqmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 04:48
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon Accessibility Issue


I went back to Amazon this morning.  My friend had gone all down the
Your Account
Page, line by line, with the Amazon Disability person, and there was no
Account Options.
She'd also had JAWS, as did I last night, search for the word
Options.
JAWS said it was not there.
This morning, after having read several List responses, I had JAWS search
for the word
Payment,
And again, that was not there.
My friend does not have
Amazon Prime.
Nor do I.
There was a link for managing one's Prime Account, but this brought me no
joy as a roundabout way of getting to
Account or Payment Options
Since I was told immediately that I did not have Amazon Prime.
Here is what I see when I go to the
Your Account
Page:
JAWS says there are 11 links.
Your Account
Amazon.com
Your Account
View Orders
Choose Period:
Open and recently shipped orders
Continue
Amazon Prime
Manage Prime Membership
Gift Cards
Search
Go
Cart
Your Account
1-Click Settings
List & Registry
Find a List or Registry
Sign Out
Help
Home
Legal Terms
Several people said they could reach the
Payment Options
Link using IE11, JAWS 2010 and Windows 10.  This is what my friend is using.
But to test, this morning, I loaded IE11 and went back to Amazon.  For me,
it made no difference.  I got the same page with the information copied
above.
I've gone to Amazon from the link on my desktop, as well as from a Google
search, just in case that made a difference.  It doesn't..
I wonder why some can access this and others of us cannot.
Since email addresses change, and the expiration numbers on credit cards
change every couple of years, or shipping addresses may change, we need
access to the account information page.
Admittedly it's got to be frustrating if results can differ, even when the
operating system, browser and screen reader version are the same, but this
is why I put this out on the JAWS Users' List to see if the problem my
friend and I are having could be replicated.
Thanks to those who responded, but if anyone is having similar issues, I'd
like to know, and Amazon needs to be alerted so that they know how
widespread the problem is.
Rebecca
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 12:09 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon Accessibility Issue

I forgot to mention I used IE11 to confirm my experience. My system is Win7,
and I had JAWS 17 loaded.

-Original Message-
From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 12:06 AM
To: 'jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com' <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: RE: [JAWS-Users] Amazon Accessibility Issue

Hi, Rebecca.

I have the same experience as Dave. Note the obvious difference between
"account options," which I couldn't find, and "payment options," which is on
the "Your Account" page and which gives customers the ability to edit
payment details.

One other thought. Amazon recognizes  my computer when I go to the website,
even though it will ask me to enter my password in certain cases. Does
Amazon recognize your friend's system? Or does she need to enter a username
and password in order for the "Payment options" link to appear?

Adrian

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of
Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 10:45 PM
To: jaws user's list <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Amazon Accessibility Issue

A friend needed to update her credit card information.  She went to the
Amazon website, to:

Your Account

And there she was stopped because the link she needed was not on the page,
or not that JAWS could find.

The next step would have been to go to the link

Account Options

But that link was nowhere to be found on the page.

She called the Amazon disability number and spoke with someone.  She finally
got the credit card information updated with their help, but as they saw,
she, using a screen reader, did not have access to that vital link.  Perhaps
we, as screen reader user

Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon Accessibility Issue

[Rebecca Lineberger]

Smile.  That's what you should, emphasis, get.  Sigh.  Neither my friend nor
I do, unfortunately.  We're using different browsers, and neither of us has
changed browser settings from the default.
What's so frustrating is that we used to be able to access  this information
on the Amazon page with no problem.  What's changed?
I have no need of this at the moment, but it's the principle of the thing
that annoys me.  Another smile.  There has to be a reason.  Just trying to
eliminate variables.  
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dave...Oregonian
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 11:04 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon Accessibility Issue

Rebecca,

Strange. When I go to "Your Account" I find a heading titled "Payment
Options" and under that a link "Edit or Add Payment Method"

There I get a list of all the credit and debit cards I've used, and the
ability to add or delete any of them.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message -
From: "Rebecca Lineberger" <drlineber...@embarqmail.com>
To: "jaws user's list" <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 19:45
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Amazon Accessibility Issue


A friend needed to update her credit card information.  She went to the
Amazon website, to:

Your Account

And there she was stopped because the link she needed was not on the page,
or not that JAWS could find.

The next step would have been to go to the link

Account Options

But that link was nowhere to be found on the page.

She called the Amazon disability number and spoke with someone.  She finally
got the credit card information updated with their help, but as they saw,
she, using a screen reader, did not have access to that vital link.  Perhaps
we, as screen reader users, are taken to another site, one supposedly more
accessible? when the screen reader is detected, because the woman assured
her that the

Account Options

Link was there for her, as a sighted user.

The woman filled out a form for their accessibility team, but if we are
currently unable to access information that was available to us before, as
it certainly was, then this is an issue that needs to be addressed by
Freedom Scientific working with Amazon.

I'm posting this here to see if others too will be unable to get to the

Account Options

Link from the

Your Account

Page.

If not, perhaps you too could call the problem to Amazon's attention.

My friend and I are both using Windows 10, version 1709, with JAWS 2018 with
the current March update.

She's using Internet Explorer.  I'm using the latest version of Chrome.

Rebecca



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon Accessibility Issue

[Rebecca Lineberger]

Precisely!  Smile.
My friend called the Amazon Disability Support number this morning and spoke
to someone again about the problem.
For anyone who might have need of the number:
Amazon
Call our Disability Customer Support line:  1-888-283-1678
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 10:14 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon Accessibility Issue

As far as I know, I'm never steered away from Amazon's main site. As you
seem to feel, I don't like the concept of separate but not necessarily equal
websites. In one case, I didn't get the same amount of information or number
of choices. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of
Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 9:49 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon Accessibility Issue

You have to be logged in or you can't get to that Account Options, as the
Amazon Disability person referred to it, or to the Payment Options link.
Even when I was logged in on the main page, I was asked to log in again when
I pressed enter on the Your Account Link.
It needs to know who we are to know what account info to access.  Smile.
We used to have three site options for Amazon:  The main site, a really
simplified site and one in-between.  On this middle one, there was a link at
the bottom to let you return to the main site.  Those choices seem to have
been taken away now. I think it's patronizing to automatically be sent to a
site for screen readers, if that's what's happening.  There are those who
prefer the supposedly more accessible sites, but others not.  And we as
users should be in control of which to use.  Smile.  JMO.   
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 8:27 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon Accessibility Issue

Rebecca, did you make sure you were logged in when you did your tests?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of
Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 7:49 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon Accessibility Issue

I went back to Amazon this morning.  My friend had gone all down the Your
Account Page, line by line, with the Amazon Disability person, and there was
no Account Options.
She'd also had JAWS, as did I last night, search for the word Options.
JAWS said it was not there.
This morning, after having read several List responses, I had JAWS search
for the word Payment, And again, that was not there.
My friend does not have
Amazon Prime.
Nor do I.
There was a link for managing one's Prime Account, but this brought me no
joy as a roundabout way of getting to Account or Payment Options Since I was
told immediately that I did not have Amazon Prime.
Here is what I see when I go to the
Your Account
Page:
JAWS says there are 11 links.
Your Account
Amazon.com
Your Account
  View Orders
Choose Period:
Open and recently shipped orders
Continue
Amazon Prime
Manage Prime Membership
Gift Cards
Search
Go
Cart
Your Account
1-Click Settings
List & Registry
Find a List or Registry
Sign Out
Help
Home
Legal Terms
Several people said they could reach the Payment Options Link using IE11,
JAWS 2010 and Windows 10.  This is what my friend is using.
But to test, this morning, I loaded IE11 and went back to Amazon.  For me,
it made no difference.  I got the same page with the information copied
above.
I've gone to Amazon from the link on my desktop, as well as from a Google
search, just in case that made a difference.  It doesn't..  
I wonder why some can access this and others of us cannot.  
Since email addresses change, and the expiration numbers on credit cards
change every couple of years, or shipping addresses may change, we need
access to the account information page.
Admittedly it's got to be frustrating if results can differ, even when the
operating system, browser and screen reader version are the same, but this
is why I put this out on the JAWS Users' List to see if the problem my
friend and I are having could be replicated.  
Thanks to those who responded, but if anyone is having similar issues, I'd
like to know, and Amazon needs to be alerted so that they know how
widespread the problem is.
Rebecca
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 12:09 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon Accessibility Issue

I forgot to mention I used IE11 to confirm my experience. My system is Win7,
and I had JAWS 17 loaded.

-Original Message-
From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 12:06 AM
To: 'jaws

Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon Accessibility Issue

[Rebecca Lineberger]

Mine is on as well.
Rebecca

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 9:00 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon Accessibility Issue

Mine was turned on. For anyone wondering, to find out if the popup blocker
is turned off or on, go to IE, alt-t for tools, o for Internet options,
control-tab to "Privacy," and tab several times to the popup blocker
checkbox.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of
Rick Justice
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 8:51 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon Accessibility Issue

I'm curious, do the people having success with the page have their pop-up
blocker turned off?
Ran into a similar situation recently, and the pop-up blocker was the
problem.

HTH,
Rick Justice

"Tomorrow's another day, another way!"
"and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!"

- Original Message -
From: "Rebecca Lineberger" <drlineber...@embarqmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 7:48 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon Accessibility Issue


I went back to Amazon this morning.  My friend had gone all down the Your
Account Page, line by line, with the Amazon Disability person, and there was
no Account Options.
She'd also had JAWS, as did I last night, search for the word Options.
JAWS said it was not there.
This morning, after having read several List responses, I had JAWS search
for the word Payment, And again, that was not there.
My friend does not have
Amazon Prime.
Nor do I.
There was a link for managing one's Prime Account, but this brought me no
joy as a roundabout way of getting to Account or Payment Options Since I was
told immediately that I did not have Amazon Prime.
Here is what I see when I go to the
Your Account
Page:
JAWS says there are 11 links.
Your Account
Amazon.com
Your Account
View Orders
Choose Period:
Open and recently shipped orders
Continue
Amazon Prime
Manage Prime Membership
Gift Cards
Search
Go
Cart
Your Account
1-Click Settings
List & Registry
Find a List or Registry
Sign Out
Help
Home
Legal Terms
Several people said they could reach the Payment Options Link using IE11,
JAWS 2010 and Windows 10.  This is what my friend is using.
But to test, this morning, I loaded IE11 and went back to Amazon.  For me,
it made no difference.  I got the same page with the information copied
above.
I've gone to Amazon from the link on my desktop, as well as from a Google
search, just in case that made a difference.  It doesn't..
I wonder why some can access this and others of us cannot.
Since email addresses change, and the expiration numbers on credit cards
change every couple of years, or shipping addresses may change, we need
access to the account information page.
Admittedly it's got to be frustrating if results can differ, even when the
operating system, browser and screen reader version are the same, but this
is why I put this out on the JAWS Users' List to see if the problem my
friend and I are having could be replicated.
Thanks to those who responded, but if anyone is having similar issues, I'd
like to know, and Amazon needs to be alerted so that they know how
widespread the problem is.
Rebecca
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 12:09 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon Accessibility Issue

I forgot to mention I used IE11 to confirm my experience. My system is Win7,
and I had JAWS 17 loaded.

-Original Message-
From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 12:06 AM
To: 'jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com' <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: RE: [JAWS-Users] Amazon Accessibility Issue

Hi, Rebecca.

I have the same experience as Dave. Note the obvious difference between
"account options," which I couldn't find, and "payment options," which is on
the "Your Account" page and which gives customers the ability to edit
payment details.

One other thought. Amazon recognizes  my computer when I go to the website,
even though it will ask me to enter my password in certain cases. Does
Amazon recognize your friend's system? Or does she need to enter a username
and password in order for the "Payment options" link to appear?

Adrian

-----Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of
Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 10:45 PM
To: jaws user's list <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Amazon Accessibility Issue

A friend needed to update her credit card information.  She went to the
Amazon website, to:

Your Account

And there she was st

Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon Accessibility Issue

[Rebecca Lineberger]

You have to be logged in or you can't get to that Account Options, as the
Amazon Disability person referred to it, or to the Payment Options link.
Even when I was logged in on the main page, I was asked to log in again when
I pressed enter on the
Your Account 
Link.
It needs to know who we are to know what account info to access.  Smile.
We used to have three site options for Amazon:  The main site, a really
simplified site and one in-between.  On this middle one, there was a link at
the bottom to let you return to the main site.  Those choices seem to have
been taken away now. I think it's patronizing to automatically be sent to a
site for screen readers, if that's what's happening.  There are those who
prefer the supposedly more accessible sites, but others not.  And we as
users should be in control of which to use.  Smile.  JMO.   
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 8:27 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon Accessibility Issue

Rebecca, did you make sure you were logged in when you did your tests?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of
Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 7:49 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon Accessibility Issue

I went back to Amazon this morning.  My friend had gone all down the Your
Account Page, line by line, with the Amazon Disability person, and there was
no Account Options.
She'd also had JAWS, as did I last night, search for the word Options.
JAWS said it was not there.
This morning, after having read several List responses, I had JAWS search
for the word Payment, And again, that was not there.
My friend does not have
Amazon Prime.
Nor do I.
There was a link for managing one's Prime Account, but this brought me no
joy as a roundabout way of getting to Account or Payment Options Since I was
told immediately that I did not have Amazon Prime.
Here is what I see when I go to the
Your Account
Page:
JAWS says there are 11 links.
Your Account
Amazon.com
Your Account
  View Orders
Choose Period:
Open and recently shipped orders
Continue
Amazon Prime
Manage Prime Membership
Gift Cards
Search
Go
Cart
Your Account
1-Click Settings
List & Registry
Find a List or Registry
Sign Out
Help
Home
Legal Terms
Several people said they could reach the Payment Options Link using IE11,
JAWS 2010 and Windows 10.  This is what my friend is using.
But to test, this morning, I loaded IE11 and went back to Amazon.  For me,
it made no difference.  I got the same page with the information copied
above.
I've gone to Amazon from the link on my desktop, as well as from a Google
search, just in case that made a difference.  It doesn't..  
I wonder why some can access this and others of us cannot.  
Since email addresses change, and the expiration numbers on credit cards
change every couple of years, or shipping addresses may change, we need
access to the account information page.
Admittedly it's got to be frustrating if results can differ, even when the
operating system, browser and screen reader version are the same, but this
is why I put this out on the JAWS Users' List to see if the problem my
friend and I are having could be replicated.  
Thanks to those who responded, but if anyone is having similar issues, I'd
like to know, and Amazon needs to be alerted so that they know how
widespread the problem is.
Rebecca
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 12:09 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon Accessibility Issue

I forgot to mention I used IE11 to confirm my experience. My system is Win7,
and I had JAWS 17 loaded.

-Original Message-
From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 12:06 AM
To: 'jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com' <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: RE: [JAWS-Users] Amazon Accessibility Issue

Hi, Rebecca.

I have the same experience as Dave. Note the obvious difference between
"account options," which I couldn't find, and "payment options," which is on
the "Your Account" page and which gives customers the ability to edit
payment details.

One other thought. Amazon recognizes  my computer when I go to the website,
even though it will ask me to enter my password in certain cases. Does
Amazon recognize your friend's system? Or does she need to enter a username
and password in order for the "Payment options" link to appear?

Adrian

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of
Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 10:45 PM
To: jaws user's list <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Amazon Accessibility Iss

Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon Accessibility Issue

[Rebecca Lineberger]

I went back to Amazon this morning.  My friend had gone all down the 
Your Account
Page, line by line, with the Amazon Disability person, and there was no
Account Options.
She'd also had JAWS, as did I last night, search for the word
Options.
JAWS said it was not there.
This morning, after having read several List responses, I had JAWS search
for the word
Payment,
And again, that was not there.
My friend does not have 
Amazon Prime.
Nor do I.
There was a link for managing one's Prime Account, but this brought me no
joy as a roundabout way of getting to
Account or Payment Options
Since I was told immediately that I did not have Amazon Prime.
Here is what I see when I go to the 
Your Account
Page:
JAWS says there are 11 links.
Your Account
Amazon.com
Your Account
  View Orders
Choose Period:
Open and recently shipped orders
Continue
Amazon Prime
Manage Prime Membership
Gift Cards
Search
Go
Cart
Your Account
1-Click Settings
List & Registry
Find a List or Registry
Sign Out
Help
Home
Legal Terms
Several people said they could reach the 
Payment Options
Link using IE11, JAWS 2010 and Windows 10.  This is what my friend is using.
But to test, this morning, I loaded IE11 and went back to Amazon.  For me,
it made no difference.  I got the same page with the information copied
above.
I've gone to Amazon from the link on my desktop, as well as from a Google
search, just in case that made a difference.  It doesn't..  
I wonder why some can access this and others of us cannot.  
Since email addresses change, and the expiration numbers on credit cards
change every couple of years, or shipping addresses may change, we need
access to the account information page.
Admittedly it's got to be frustrating if results can differ, even when the
operating system, browser and screen reader version are the same, but this
is why I put this out on the JAWS Users' List to see if the problem my
friend and I are having could be replicated.  
Thanks to those who responded, but if anyone is having similar issues, I'd
like to know, and Amazon needs to be alerted so that they know how
widespread the problem is.
Rebecca
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 12:09 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon Accessibility Issue

I forgot to mention I used IE11 to confirm my experience. My system is Win7,
and I had JAWS 17 loaded.

-Original Message-
From: Adrian Spratt 
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 12:06 AM
To: 'jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com' <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: RE: [JAWS-Users] Amazon Accessibility Issue

Hi, Rebecca.

I have the same experience as Dave. Note the obvious difference between
"account options," which I couldn't find, and "payment options," which is on
the "Your Account" page and which gives customers the ability to edit
payment details.

One other thought. Amazon recognizes  my computer when I go to the website,
even though it will ask me to enter my password in certain cases. Does
Amazon recognize your friend's system? Or does she need to enter a username
and password in order for the "Payment options" link to appear?

Adrian

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of
Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 10:45 PM
To: jaws user's list <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Amazon Accessibility Issue

A friend needed to update her credit card information.  She went to the
Amazon website, to: 

Your Account

And there she was stopped because the link she needed was not on the page,
or not that JAWS could find.

The next step would have been to go to the link

Account Options

But that link was nowhere to be found on the page.

She called the Amazon disability number and spoke with someone.  She finally
got the credit card information updated with their help, but as they saw,
she, using a screen reader, did not have access to that vital link.  Perhaps
we, as screen reader users, are taken to another site, one supposedly more
accessible? when the screen reader is detected, because the woman assured
her that the

Account Options

Link was there for her, as a sighted user.

The woman filled out a form for their accessibility team, but if we are
currently unable to access information that was available to us before, as
it certainly was, then this is an issue that needs to be addressed by
Freedom Scientific working with Amazon.  

I'm posting this here to see if others too will be unable to get to the 

Account Options

Link from the

Your Account 

Page.

If not, perhaps you too could call the problem to Amazon's attention.

My friend and I are both using Windows 10, version 1709, with JAWS 2018 with
the current March update.

She's using Internet Explorer.  I'm using the latest version of Chrome.

Rebecca 

 

[JAWS-Users] Amazon Accessibility Issue

[Rebecca Lineberger]

A friend needed to update her credit card information.  She went to the
Amazon website, to: 

Your Account

And there she was stopped because the link she needed was not on the page,
or not that JAWS could find.

The next step would have been to go to the link

Account Options

But that link was nowhere to be found on the page.

She called the Amazon disability number and spoke with someone.  She finally
got the credit card information updated with their help, but as they saw,
she, using a screen reader, did not have access to that vital link.  Perhaps
we, as screen reader users, are taken to another site, one supposedly more
accessible? when the screen reader is detected, because the woman assured
her that the

Account Options

Link was there for her, as a sighted user.

The woman filled out a form for their accessibility team, but if we are
currently unable to access information that was available to us before, as
it certainly was, then this is an issue that needs to be addressed by
Freedom Scientific working with Amazon.  

I'm posting this here to see if others too will be unable to get to the 

Account Options

Link from the

Your Account 

Page.

If not, perhaps you too could call the problem to Amazon's attention.

My friend and I are both using Windows 10, version 1709, with JAWS 2018 with
the current March update.

She's using Internet Explorer.  I'm using the latest version of Chrome.

Rebecca 

 

"The best criticism of the bad is the practice of the better" 

From:  Center for Action and Contemplation

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] arranging files in alphabetical order

[Rebecca Lineberger]

Also, if you go back in and press enter again on name, or on date, the order
will reverse.  This is a quick way to change something on the fly,
especially if you want it sorted by date, and you are looking for something
either very recent or very old.
If you want something in ascending order, make sure that item is checked,
which I think it is by default.  As usual, Microsoft has given us multiple
ways to do the same thing.  I find the function key quicker, but the context
menu key works great too.  Do whatever works.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2018 5:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] arranging files in alphabetical order

Miriam,

Okay, yet another method, one that always works for me without sighted
assistance on my Windows 7 computer. 

1. First, make sure nothing is "selected" in the list you want to
alphabetize. If JAWS says the item in focus is selected, press
control-spacebar to unselect it.

2. Press the applications key, between the right-hand Windows and control
keys.

3. Arrow down to "Sort by..." Press enter.

4. On my system, the first item that comes up is "Name." If this isn't
checked, press the spacebar. 

Now, if that doesn't solve the problem, repeat steps 1 through 3 again and
press enter on "sort by." 

Now arrow down to "Ascending."  On my system, either "Ascending" or
"descending" can be checked. I have "ascending" checked and "descending"
unchecked. No need for sighted assistance to confirm.

I hope this one works for you.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Miriam Vieni
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2018 4:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] arranging files in alphabetical order

That worked, but I couldn't check ascending with the space bar. I had to ask
a sighted person to do it with the mouse.  That sighted person is my
daughter, who is rather impatient, so I'm not goint to be able to get her to
do this with all the files in Documents. 

Miriam

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2018 2:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] arranging files in alphabetical order

Hi Miriam,

Try the following:
1. Press, Alt + V, to open the View menu.
2. Arrow down to the, Sort By, sub-menu, press enter to open.  Also, make
sure the, List, checkbox is checked as you're arrowing down.
3. Arrow down, & you want both the, Name & Ascending, checkboxes checked. 
It sounds like the, Descending, option might be checked, so pressing enter
on, Ascending, should fix the problem.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message -
From: Miriam Vieni
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2018 10:54 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] arranging files in alphabetical order


This hasn't worked for me. If I shift tab, I get to a tree few where I can
open or close things. But I can't change the order from a to z in the
documents folder or the sub folders within it.

Miriam

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
George Martinez Sr.
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2018 9:32 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] arranging files in alphabetical order

When you are in the folder
Press SHIFT + TAB to land on the NAME column header then press Enter to put
the files in Alphabetic order if you do this again it will reverse the order
descending to ascending.
Also, once you press SHIFT + TAB you may right arrow to the "Date Modified"
column and sort your files by Date order.

George A. Martinez, CPA
O-602.368.8854
F-206.666.2589
C-602.368.5424
"I've learnedThat everyone wants to live on top of the mountain, but all
the happiness and growth occurs while you're climbing it." attributed to
Andy Rooney

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Miriam Vieni
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2018 6:20 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] arranging files in alphabetical order

Somehow, when I moved, a lot of the files and folders in documents got
turned upside down with the ones starting with A at the bottom of the list.
Can someone explain in detail, what I need to do to change the order?

Miriam


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Re: [JAWS-Users] arranging files in alphabetical order

[Rebecca Lineberger]

Miriam,
If you go to your Desktop and press enter on My Documents, then press the f6
function key, the instructions I sent should work.  I just confirmed them
with a friend running Windows 7.  We're both using details view though,
instead of list or icon, so maybe that makes a difference.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Miriam Vieni
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2018 4:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] arranging files in alphabetical order

It doesn't. It says task bar split button.

Miriam

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of
Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2018 2:35 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] arranging files in alphabetical order

Miriam,
It's been a while since I've used Windows 7, but this should work for you
there as well as it does for Windows 10.
Open your Documents folder.  If the folders and files are in reverse order,
reach up and press the f6 key.  It should say Name.
If it does, press enter and your folders should be sorted properly again.
If when you press the f6 key, it says
Date
Press the left arrow key and it should say Name.
Press enter as above.
If you should want your folders, or files within a folder, sorted by date,
Press the f6 key and when it says Name right arrow to date And press enter.
The newest files will be on top of the list.
If you want the oldest on top,
Press the f6 key and when it says
Date
Press enter and the files will reverse their order.
If the problem is only within certain folders in your documents, or if you
want to configure certain files differently, then just open the folder you
want to rearrange and follow the steps above.  I have my Documents folder
sorted by name, but many of the files within the individual folders I have
sorted by date.  HTH.
Rebecca
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Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2018 2:00 PM
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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] arranging files in alphabetical order

I have windows 7. Perhaps these directions are for windows 10?

Miriam

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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] arranging files in alphabetical order

Here is what you need to do to resort your files

1 - Go to the folder in question

2 - Hit Alt + V and this will take you to the view tab

3 - Hit Control + right arrow and go to the current views group box

4 - Arrow right to Sort by and hit enter

5 - The first selection should be name hit enter on it and it will reverse
sort back to the correct alphabetical order






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Subject: [JAWS-Users] arranging files in alphabetical order

Somehow, when I moved, a lot of the files and folders in documents got
turned upside down with the ones starting with A at the bottom of the list.
Can someone explain in detail, what I need to do to change the order?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] arranging files in alphabetical order

[Rebecca Lineberger]

Miriam, 
It's been a while since I've used Windows 7, but this should work for you
there as well as it does for Windows 10.
Open your Documents folder.  If the folders and files are in reverse order,
reach up and press the f6 key.  It should say
Name.
If it does, press enter and your folders should be sorted properly again.
If when you press the f6 key, it says
Date
Press the left arrow key and it should say
Name.
Press enter as above.
If you should want your folders, or files within a folder, sorted by date,
Press the f6 key and when it says
Name
right arrow to 
date
And press enter.
The newest files will be on top of the list.
If you want the oldest on top,
Press the f6 key and when it says
Date
Press enter and the files will reverse their order.
If the problem is only within certain folders in your documents, or if you
want to configure certain files differently, then just open the folder you
want to 
rearrange and follow the steps above.  I have my Documents folder sorted by
name, but many of the files within the individual folders I have sorted by
date.  HTH.
Rebecca
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Behalf Of Miriam Vieni
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2018 2:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] arranging files in alphabetical order

I have windows 7. Perhaps these directions are for windows 10?

Miriam

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joediner...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2018 11:24 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] arranging files in alphabetical order

Here is what you need to do to resort your files

1 - Go to the folder in question

2 - Hit Alt + V and this will take you to the view tab

3 - Hit Control + right arrow and go to the current views group box

4 - Arrow right to Sort by and hit enter

5 - The first selection should be name hit enter on it and it will reverse
sort back to the correct alphabetical order






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Miriam Vieni
Sent: Sunday, April 1, 2018 9:20 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] arranging files in alphabetical order

Somehow, when I moved, a lot of the files and folders in documents got
turned upside down with the ones starting with A at the bottom of the list.
Can someone explain in detail, what I need to do to change the order?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] task bar

[Rebecca Lineberger]

This is what I found for Windows 10.  But as I said, I prefer the
Windows-tab command because alt-tab does not seem to cycle through all
programs.  As usual, Microsoft has given us many ways to do the same thing.
Switch among open programs  Alt+Tab
Use the arrow keys to switch among open programsCtrl+Alt+Tab
Open Task view  Windows+Tab
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Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2018 10:11 PM
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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] task bar

Like, what I meant to say is that the windows tab button works for me, but I
still can't get alt tab to go through all the windows, so I'll probably have
to reboot.  Though, I'm going to try refreshing jaws and unloading and
reloading jaws.

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Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2018 9:45 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] task bar

Hi Justin & Rebecca,

I just tried using the, Windows key + Tab, keystroke without success on my
Windows 7 Pro 64 bit computer running J16 thru J2018 latest .
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
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To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2018 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] task bar


I prefer using windows key-tab. After you press that, you can left and right
arrow through all the open windows.  Press enter on the one you want to
select it.  If you want to close something as you're arrowing through, press
the application/menu key and arrow up to close and press enter.
As I remember, this also works in Windows 7, but it's been awhile.  Smile.
Rebecca
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Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2018 3:45 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] task bar

I've noticed, that from time to time, like right now, I can't alt tab
through the different application on the task bar, like if I have 8 open, I
can only see one or two.  Is there an overlay or something, why is this
happening, and how do I fix it?
Justin


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Re: [JAWS-Users] task bar

[Rebecca Lineberger]

Hm.  I just googled and google said:
Windows 7 keyboard shortcut keys 
General keyboard shortcuts  
Alt+Tab
Switch between open items 
Ctrl+Alt+Tab
Use the arrow keys to switch between open items 
Windows logo key +Tab
Cycle through programs on the taskbar by using Aero Flip 3-D
As I said, it's been several years now since I've used Windows 7, so I
googled again and found:
HOW TO USE FLIP AND FLIP 3D IN WINDOWS 7
When you have many windows open in Windows 7, you can use the Flip and Flip
3-D features to quickly organize your applications. Flip and Flip 3-D, like
Aero Peek, allow you to view what is happening in all of your open windows
and shuffle them so that the one you want is on top.

FLIP
To use the Flip feature, hold down Alt and press Tab. Windows 7 displays a
panel in the middle of the desktop showing thumbnails of each open window.
Each
time you press Tab, a different one of the windows is selected and its name
appears at the top of the panel. When you release the Alt key, the panel
hides
again and the last window selected becomes the open window on your display.
If you want to take your time scrolling through the open windows, hold the
Ctrl key down while you press the Alt and Tab key. The thumbnail panel will
open and stay that way even after you release all the keys. This allows you
to use the right and left arrow keys to find the one you want. When you’ve
highlighted the window you want to work with, press Enter to close the panel
and display the selected window on the desktop.

FLIP 3D

To use the Flip 3D feature, hold down the Windows logo key (the key with
picture of a waving flag divided into four parts) and then press the Tab
key.
All the open windows will cascade across your desktop in 3-D. Flip through
the cascading thumbnails by continuing to press the Tab key. When the
thumbnail
of the window you want appears at the front of the stack, release the
Windows logo key. Your windows will all lay back down with the window you
want on
top.  
As with Flip, holding the Ctrl key down while activating Flip 3D ensures
that the windows remain cascaded across your desktop while you peruse them
with
your right and left arrow keys. When the window you want to access is at the
front of the stack, you can press Enter to close the stack and display its
window on top of the desktop.
http://www.dummies.com/computers/operating-systems/windows-7/how-to-use-flip
-and-flip-3d-in-windows-7/
HTH.  
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Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2018 9:45 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] task bar

Hi Justin & Rebecca,

I just tried using the, Windows key + Tab, keystroke without success on my
Windows 7 Pro 64 bit computer running J16 thru J2018 latest .
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
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From: Rebecca Lineberger
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2018 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] task bar


I prefer using windows key-tab. After you press that, you can left and right
arrow through all the open windows.  Press enter on the one you want to
select it.  If you want to close something as you're arrowing through, press
the application/menu key and arrow up to close and press enter.
As I remember, this also works in Windows 7, but it's been awhile.  Smile.
Rebecca
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Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2018 3:45 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] task bar

I've noticed, that from time to time, like right now, I can't alt tab
through the different application on the task bar, like if I have 8 open, I
can only see one or two.  Is there an overlay or something, why is this
happening, and how do I fix it?
Justin


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Re: [JAWS-Users] task bar

[Rebecca Lineberger]

I prefer using windows key-tab. After you press that, you can left and right
arrow through all the open windows.  Press enter on the one you want to
select it.  If you want to close something as you're arrowing through, press
the application/menu key and arrow up to close and press enter.
As I remember, this also works in Windows 7, but it's been awhile.  Smile.
Rebecca
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Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2018 3:45 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] task bar

I've noticed, that from time to time, like right now, I can't alt tab
through the different application on the task bar, like if I have 8 open, I
can only see one or two.  Is there an overlay or something, why is this
happening, and how do I fix it?
Justin


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[JAWS-Users] Reading Epub Books

[Rebecca Lineberger]

As a Follow-up to my previous post in which I said that neither my Kurzweil
nor FS Reader would open the DAISY version of very long books I'd downloaded
from Bookshare, I brought in the book as an epub book.  Kurzweil would not
open this either, but because I'm running Windows 10, these books will
automatically open in Edge.  The book did indeed open, and JAWS did a nice
job with it.  And with the latest version of JAWS, text can now be selected
and copied.

Rebecca 

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[JAWS-Users] FS Reader And Page Numbers, Followup

[Rebecca Lineberger]

As a followup to what I wrote below, in Kurzweil's defense, FS Reader would
not open the long Daisy book that Kurzweil could not open.

Back to plan b,c, or d?  Smile.

Rebecca

Hello Adrian,

Call it determination or just stubbornness, smile, but I think I've found a
work-around for determining where you are when using FS Reader.  

I downloaded a Daisy book from Bookshare and unzipped it.  FS Reader opened
it and the book was easily navigated, with links and headings, just as in a
web page.  

There didn't seem to be page numbers at the bottom or top of pages when I
used the page-down key, so I tried the go to page command, control-g.  At
first, I just typed in a page number and pressed enter, and after a pause,
was taken there.  Then, after paying a bit more attention to what I was
hearing in the go to page dialogue, smile, I realized that it indeed gives
you the page number of your current location-which is exactly what you
wanted.

So just press control-g and it will say 30, 41 of 356, for example, because
the introductory pages which are numbered with Roman numbers are included in
the total count.

If all you want is the current page number, press escape and you're back to
the text.  

I have to thank you for forcing me to try something new.  Sometines needing
to teach something is the best way to learn oneself!  LOL.

There have been occasions where my older version of Kurzweil could not open
a very long book.  I'll now have to try those with FS Reader. Initially at
first glance though, FS has done a nice job with this, and it may give me
access to books I could not get my ears around before.  I'd even played with
opening epub books, they open automatically in Edge, but I still find them
cumbersome. . 

HTH.

Rebecca

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[JAWS-Users] FS Reader And Page Numbers

[Rebecca Lineberger]

Hello Adrian,

Call it determination or just stubbornness, smile, but I think I've found a
work-around for determining where you are when using FS Reader.  

I downloaded a Daisy book from Bookshare and unzipped it.  FS Reader opened
it and the book was easily navigated, with links and headings, just as in a
web page.  

There didn't seem to be page numbers at the bottom or top of pages when I
used the page-down key, so I tried the go to page command, control-g.  At
first, I just typed in a page number and pressed enter, and after a pause,
was taken there.  Then, after paying a bit more attention to what I was
hearing in the go to page dialogue, smile, I realized that it indeed gives
you the page number of your current location-which is exactly what you
wanted.

So just press control-g and it will say 30, 41 of 356, for example, because
the introductory pages which are numbered with Roman numbers are included in
the total count.

If all you want is the current page number, press escape and you're back to
the text.  

I have to thank you for forcing me to try something new.  Sometines needing
to teach something is the best way to learn oneself!  LOL.

There have been occasions where my older version of Kurzweil could not open
a very long book.  I'll now have to try those with FS Reader. Initially at
first glance though, FS has done a nice job with this, and it may give me
access to books I could not get my ears around before.  I'd even played with
opening epub books, they open automatically in Edge, but I still find them
cumbersome. . 

HTH.

Rebecca

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Re: [JAWS-Users] FSReader; how to locate page numbers

[Rebecca Lineberger]

Hello Adrian,
I've not used FS Reader other than to read the JAWS documentation.
This is not exactly what you're looking for, but it was all I could find
when searching the documentation, information which I'm sure you've already
seen.
Beginning with JAWS 15 and MAGic 13, for DAISY books that have text, the
text of the books appear in HTML, or Web page format, in the document pane
of FSReader. The document pane is located on the right side of the window,
and the left side of the window contains a tree view for navigating in the
book by headings, chapters, pages, and so on, depending on how the book is
structured by the author. The new user interface has the following items,
starting at the top of the window: 

Title bar - This is where the title of the book you are currently reading is
displayed, and it is the top row of the window. 
Menu bar 
Tool bar - This has buttons for mouse users to click. These functions are
all accessible with the keyboard by using hot keys or menu commands. 
Navigation pane - This is located on the left side of the FSReader window.
It contains a tree view for navigating by headings, chapters, pages, or
whatever unit the author of the book used in the book creation process.
And this:
The Navigation menu contains the following items: 

Bookmarks submenu 

Set bookmark, CTRL+B 
View bookmarks, CTRL+K 
Go to page, CTRL+G 
Search submenu 

Find, CTRL+F 
Find next, F3 
Find previous, SHIFT+F3
I use Kurzweil for reading books from Bookshare. The help key there acts as
a sort of status bar, giving you page x of y pages.  Depending on whether
the information was retained when the book was scanned, page numbers may
appear at the bottoms or tops of pages.
Also, depending on how the book was scanned, it may have pages, which will
work with a next or previous page command, as well as a go to page command,
but it seems that often, especially with the "publisher quality" eBooks, the
book will have been formatted so that it has only one page.  There are
usually bookmarks embedded in the document, but again, that does not truly
speak to your question as to finding specific location.  
I haven't played with the FS Reader enough to make informed comments.
Sorry this was not very helpful.  Perhaps someone else has more information.
Rebecca  
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Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 1:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] FSReader; how to locate page numbers

I'm reposting this query in case it got lost among all the VLC chatter. I do
know that chances are no one has an answer, but I'm making sure.

Hi. I'd like to know what page number I'm on when reading books with
FSReader 3.0. there doesn't seem to be a status bar, and neither the menus
nor the help documentation point to an answer. Any ideas?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] finding folder size in windows 10?

[Rebecca Lineberger]

I can confirm this as well.  Insert b works, reading the whole properties
dialogue box.  If you just want to quickly check the size, route JAWS to PC
with JAWS Key-minus, and arrow up a few lines.
My window is maximized, but I restored it and it works that way too.
HTH.
Rebecca
  

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Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 8:42 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] finding folder size in windows 10?

Hi Adam,

Alt + Enter...works for me.  I'm running Windows 10 Pro with J2018 latest, &
getting the folder size as you described works.  Make sure the Window is
maximized.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
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To: Jaws for Windows.
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 3:48 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] finding folder size in windows 10?


Hi all,
running the March edition of Jaws2018 on win10 home.

Prior to this if I wanted to find the size of a folder I would press alt
enter on the folder, then route jaws to pc and read the screen to find out
the size of the folder.
This doesn't work in the latest version, I need to use insert b to read the
screen.

If I use insert 8 or insert tab I'm given the folder, when modified and
where it is numbered for example 21 of 55.

Wondering what key strokes I don't know or what I'm missing?
TIA.



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[JAWS-Users] Chrome Access Restored

[Rebecca Lineberger]

As I wrote earlier, after installing the latest update to JAWS through the
check for updates link in the JAWS help menu, I could not access Chrome
websites after using MS Edge, unless I either restarted JAWS or the
computer.

Keith Patterson downloaded JAWS through tandem and ran the JAWS repair.
Chrome works now after I use Edge.

He recommended always downloading the update directly from the website. I'd
done that in the past, but alas, not this time. That way too, if there is a
problem, the repair option is waiting in the download folder.  

Rebecca

 

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[JAWS-Users] Latest JAWS Update

[Rebecca Lineberger]

I would call this in, but thought I'd see if anyone else can replicate it
first.

Yesterday, after I installed the new version, I went first to Microsoft
Edge, and played around in there with different websites, to see how text
selection worked.  It worked fine, as I said yesterday.

But what I did not mention yesterday was when I went back to Chrome, the
Google page loaded, but JAWS showed nothing on the screen.  Nothing when I
typed into the search box, nothing when I turned the pc cursor on and
arrowed down the page, nothing when I refreshed the screen with JAWS
key-escape, nothing when I rotated through the f6 options.  No luck with
Windows-tab or alt-tab in going away from the page and coming back.

I turned off the computer and when it rebooted, all was fine.

This morning, Chrome was fine.  But when I went to Edge for a while and then
came back to Chrome, the same thing happened as the day before.  This time,
rather than shutting the computer down, I just restarted JAWS.  When it came
back, it had sorted itself out and Chrome is working properly again.

Is this a bug?  Several others reported things not working properly till the
computer was rebooted.  I will call it in, or perhaps Eric Damery can
replicate this one too?  Smile.

Rebecca

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Using Microsoft Word 2016 and needing combination keys

[Rebecca Lineberger]

These instructions also work for older versions of MS Word.  In my 2010, the
application key does work.
But to respond to Adrian's first suggestion, here's something for all
Window-Eyes users who migrated to JAWS who were used to the window's status
being spoken in the title bar.  Windows key up-arrow will maximize the
window, as well as the older way of alt-spacebar, followed by x, but if you
want to quickly check the status of the window, as we could have in
Window-Eyes, JAWS gives that information in the JAWS Task List.
Start JAWS Task List. JAWS Key + F10

Opens the Window List dialog where you can view and switch between running
applications. 
It also, conveniently, smile, tells you the status of the window, if the
keyboard operator can remember to check there.  LOL.  
Rebecca
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Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 3:47 PM
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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using Microsoft Word 2016 and needing combination
keys

Hi, Lawrence. 

The first thing I'd suggest is that you confirm your MS Word window is
maximized by pressing alt-space, then x. that may give you the information
you want in that status bar.

If not, here are instructions I copied from a lister on another list. I've
just confirmed that they work in Word 2016, which I now use.

Joseph the Free Tech guy. To show number of lines, line number, or many
other options in the status bar in Word: 
1. Press F6 until Status bar is highlighted. Or, until you hear Jaws report,
Status Toolbar. It should be the 2nd press of the F6 key. 
2. Press Shift + F10 to show options. This keystroke must be used because a
right mouse click or the application key will not. 
3. Down arrow through the available options, and when you have found line
count or something else of interest press the spacebar to check or uncheck
the item. 
4. when done making modifications simply press AltF4 or escape key. 
5. Review your status line to insure the settings have been properly
modified.

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Lawrence
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 12:53 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Using Microsoft Word 2016 and needing combonation keys

Greeting Jaws Users

 

In some of the older versions of Microsoft Word such as 2003 to acquire page
number and line number one would press the comination keys (down page key
and jaws key)

I've recently acquired Microsoft 2016 and need this information. Can some
one provide the current combination keys. 

 

Thanks In advance for any assistance. 

 

 

 

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[JAWS-Users] JAWS Update

[Rebecca Lineberger]

I put it in this afternoon and have been playing.  I'm delighted to be able
to copy and paste using Edge.  I had not been using Edge, since I needed
this functionality.  Thank you.

I use the Windows 10 calculator all the time, and am pleased that it now
speaks as it should for the most part.  Occasionally when dividing one
number by another, the result does not speak when the enter key is pressed.
Consistently this happens with 16 divided by 4.  I have to tab and shift tab
for the answer to speak.  20 divided by 4 speaks the answer immediately. I
played with all sorts of numbers, but again, only 16 divided by 4
consistently comes up silent on my system.

 

I wish I could play with Office 2016, but I still am happy with my 2010.
Smile.

I have other things yet to check out, but this was a great update.

Thanks.

Rebecca

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Re: [JAWS-Users] the stars in password fields

[Rebecca Lineberger]

The decision has been made, but just a final comment from someone who wrote
VFO about this several months ago ...
I can understand the potential problems of a spoken password in the
workplace, but for those using JAWS For Home Use, rather than the
professional version, I can see no security risk.  Many of us who migrated
from Window-Eyes used this feature on our home computers for years without a
problem.  There are several physiological conditions, such as arthritis or
neuropathy that could cause someone to have difficulty typing. In these
cases, as well as for anyone of us who might find typing one thing and
hearing another confusing, the person would benefit from hearing the
characters as they typed, especially in those situations where accuracy the
first time really mattered.  Smile.  Certainly, copying and pasting is a way
around this, but in this case, not only is the password spoken, as it's
typed, but it is displayed on the screen, as it would not have been when in
a password edit field.
JMO.
Rebecca  

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Behalf Of net bat66
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2018 7:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] the stars in password fields

i don't see a big deal here. the stars are still there if you hear the keys
you press or not.
i only want the keys i press to be spoken like window eyes does so i don't
have to keep typeing my passwords in note pad and copying and pasteing them
into the password edit box every time.
the stars are not being replaced with the password i type in. it just speaks
the keys as i press them. nothing else.
i can not concentrate on the keys i press while it is saying the stars and
not the keys i press.
if you are working, turn the keys off. if not turn them on in settings.



-Original Message-
From: Eric Damery
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2018 1:37 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] the stars in password fields

While it may well be possible that we could add such an option that would
allow the true password being typed, it is also very likely that just adding
this option into our software, would cause security minded organizations
such as IRS, SSA, and many other 3 letter organizations, to block those
versions from being deployed. It is part of the reason we have a Non-Tandem
build of our software posted also on the web.

Sorry, but this ability to echo Passwords is risky from security standpoint
and we will not be adding that one.

Regards,
Eric

Eric Damery
VFO(tm) | VP Software Product Management
11800 31st Court North, St. Petersburg, FL 33716 T 727-299-6110 F
727-803-8001 edam...@vfogroup.com www.vfogroup.com

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Webinar, Office 2016

[Rebecca Lineberger]

I think the web addresses are the same.  Neither opens directly for me from
the email, but both work when copied and pasted into the browser, Chrome, in
my case.  I'd copied the address from the website and pasted it into my
message.  It did not stay nicely on one line, as Adrian's did.  Perhaps the
improvement of Outlook 2016 over my 2010?  LOL.  But if looked at letter by
letter, so to speak, they're both the same.
But choose the neater version!  Smile.
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Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 1:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Webinar, Office 2016

Rebecca, I believe the address has changed to
http://www.freedomscientific.com/Services/TrainingAndCertification/WebinarDe
tail/F0117
You can choose an MP3 recording or go through an HTML version.

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Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 10:58 AM
To: jaws user's list <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Webinar, Office 2016

This may be of help to some.

I just found it so haven't listened yet.

Rebecca

Introduction to Office 2016 with JAWS and MAGic

Archived 11/11/2015

 

This overview of Office 2016 with JAWS and MAGic covers the important
aspects of Office 2016. Topics include navigation for the ribbons and task
panes;

differences from earlier versions of Word, Excel, Outlook, and PowerPoint.

Product(s): JAWS, MAGic 

Experience Level: Beginner 

Length: 1.0 hours

https://www.freedomscientific.com/Services/TrainingAndCertification/WebinarD
etail/F0117

 

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[JAWS-Users] JAWS Webinar, Office 2016

[Rebecca Lineberger]

This may be of help to some.

I just found it so haven't listened yet.

Rebecca

Introduction to Office 2016 with JAWS and MAGic

Archived 11/11/2015

 

This overview of Office 2016 with JAWS and MAGic covers the important
aspects of Office 2016. Topics include navigation for the ribbons and task
panes;

differences from earlier versions of Word, Excel, Outlook, and PowerPoint.

Product(s): JAWS, MAGic 

Experience Level: Beginner 

Length: 1.0 hours

https://www.freedomscientific.com/Services/TrainingAndCertification/WebinarD
etail/F0117

 

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[JAWS-Users] Office Versions

[Rebecca Lineberger]

Thank you to all those who responded with their thoughts and experiences. In
an ideal world, there would be a way to use a new program for long enough to
really learn and assess it, and then be able to revert back to the older
version if the new one did not suit. 

Perhaps if there are screen reader issues, they could be reported to FS and
they could be addressed.  Sometimes small annoyances can be a deal-breaker
for using or not using a program.  I too use the f8 for quick selection.  In
Word 2010, JAWS does a great job.

In 2010 too, the spell-checker with f7 works really well, speaking
everything. Insert-f7 repeats the information; insert-c reads the context
and alt-c corrects the spelling (when I remember to press it instead of
enter).  LOL.  To me, enter seems more intuitive to confirm a choice, and
alt-i makes more logical sense to ignore.  Smile.  

With Window-Eyes, I used alt-f7, which I sometimes do with JAWS as well.

I do use Window-Eyes still in Word for playing Sudoku.  The table mode works
really well, giving only column and row numbers without trying to read
headings. This lets me know instantly where I am when trying to figure out
what number would go where. I don't know if Window-Eyes works with Word
2016, and I've not found a way to make tables work well for me with JAWS for
Sudoku.  

There are always gains and losses when updating technology, for us, doubly
so, since the screen has to be mediated, and screen readers do the best they
can.

Perhaps all the tech wizards everywhere could try turning off their monitors
and do their testing with a screen reader.?  Smile.

Thanks again for all the thoughts.

Rebecca

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[JAWS-Users] Office 2010 vs. 2016 vs. 365

[Rebecca Lineberger]

I'm running Windows 10, Fall Creator update, 1709.  But I'm still using
Office 2010.  I hesitate to update since on the list at least, and probably
naturally enough, I see more problems than benefits.  I've been reading a
bit about 2016 and 365 from books on each downloaded from Bookshare. Does
anyone have any thoughts about either?  It seems these days that screen
readers are always playing catch-up as Microsoft constantly introduces
changes. Since my computer is behaving and I don't need a new one, the
upgrade to a later version of Office would be a choice and not a necessity.

Just wondering about others' experiences.

Thoughts would be appreciated.

Rebecca

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Re: [JAWS-Users] frames and spelling

[Rebecca Lineberger]

If it's spelling rather than spell-checking, why not just right-arrow
through the text?  Perhaps I'm not understanding the question?  Smile.
Clarification, please.
Rebecca
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2018 8:10 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] frames and spelling

You can select a certain block of text and spell-check within that text.
However, I'm not sure you can select the contents of a frame other than by
marking the top and bottom boundaries. As I think about this some more, it
sounds like you're dealing with a Webpage. If so, do you have a
spell-checker that can work on websites? Can you be more specific with your
query?

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Behalf Of Robin
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2018 4:27 AM
To: jaws list 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] frames andspelling

is there any way of making a frame spell the contence.
many thankks.
Cheers Robin.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Making a keyboard shortcut for restarting JAWS

[Rebecca Lineberger]

I forgot about this one. Sorry I probably stated the obvious in my previous
answer.  Smile.   

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Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2018 4:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Making a keyboard shortcut for restarting JAWS

Hi, Matthew. The keystroke I use for this purpose is JAWS key-Windows
key-F4, all three at the same time. You'll need to wait several seconds for
JAWS to come up, but it almost invariably does. 
An alternative is to unload JAWS with the same combination minus the Windows
key. In that case, you then need to reload JAWS in whichever way you're
accustomed to, such as with a shortcut you created from the preferences
dialog. If this needs further explanation, please post again.

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Behalf Of Matthew Chao
Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2018 2:21 PM
To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Making a keyboard shortcut for restarting JAWS

Hi, Folks.  I'm one of those former Window-Eyes users who went kicking and
screaming over to JAWS.  All that said, I only just yesterday started using
JAWS for the first time.

Anyway, my question is:  Is there a keyboard shortcut for restarting JAWS if
it and some other software don't play nice together?  I'm asking because I'm
an amateur radio operator (ham) and use an interface with a radio that when
plugged into my PC, takes all the sound away, including JAWS.  At that
point, I need to restart JAWS, but see no keyboard shortcut to do this.
Thoughts?  Thanks in advance.--Matthew Chao


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Making a keyboard shortcut for restarting JAWS

[Rebecca Lineberger]

Hello Matthew,
You have to make a keyboard shortcut, since JAWS lets you have multiple
versions of the program, rather than installing over the previous version as
Window-Eyes did.
I use control-alt-j for the current version and control-alt-z for the older
one.  Just my choice.
To make a shortcut, do it the way you would for any other program.
Find the program shortcut on your desktop and press the context menu key.  
Arrow up to properties and press enter.
Tab until you hear shortcut key hotkey.
Press j, or whatever letter you want to use.  The control-alt goes in
automatically.
Tab to ok. And follow the prompts.
This will have to be done with every JAWS update.
HTH.
Rebecca

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Behalf Of Matthew Chao
Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2018 2:21 PM
To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Making a keyboard shortcut for restarting JAWS

Hi, Folks.  I'm one of those former Window-Eyes users who went kicking and
screaming over to JAWS.  All that said, I only just yesterday started using
JAWS for the first time.

Anyway, my question is:  Is there a keyboard shortcut for restarting JAWS if
it and some other software don't play nice together?  I'm asking because I'm
an amateur radio operator (ham) and use an interface with a radio that when
plugged into my PC, takes all the sound away, including JAWS.  At that
point, I need to restart JAWS, but see no keyboard shortcut to do this.
Thoughts?  Thanks in advance.--Matthew Chao


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Re: [JAWS-Users] NFB Newsline and JAWS

[Rebecca Lineberger]

I can answer the non technical stuff!  LOL.  There are people on the list
who are just astounding in what they do.  We help as we can and learn from
each other.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 3:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] NFB Newsline and JAWS

Now why can't the Newsline people make it his simple, especially considering
how much work they've put into creating this valuable service? Thanks,
Rebecca, for figuring this out all over again in order to post these
instructions. 

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Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 2:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] NFB Newsline and JAWS

Hello Adrian,
Just in case you haven't heard from the Newsline team yet, or if anyone else
might find this helpful, Here is the link to manage options.
Return to Online Options.
http://www.nfbnewslineonline.org/NOLGreeting.jsp
>From here, I went to the link:
Manage Your Web Favorite Publications
On that page, there will be links to remove each of the publications you've
added to your Favorites list, as well as these two links:
Add a publication to your favorites from an Alphabetical List of
Publications.
Add a publication to your favorites from Publications Organized by State
List.
If I go to the alphabetical list of publications, I get a whole list of
publications, with a link below each to add it to the Favorites List
Publication Name AARP Bulletin Add AARP Bulletin to your Web Favorites AARP
Magazine Add AARP Magazine to your Web Favorites ABC News Add ABC News to
your Web Favorites HTH.  Smile.
Rebecca
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Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 1:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] NFB Newsline and JAWS

Rebecca, you come through again. thanks for this explanation and link. right
now I'm finding the instructions for how to select favorites on the website
circular, so I've emailed the Newsline people for help. When I figure it
out, I'll be happy to use it instead of email, or perhaps in addition to.

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Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 10:29 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] NFB Newsline and JAWS

Hi Adrian,
This is perhaps not what you want, but I just go to their web page and
choose what I wish to read.  I've put the newspapers and magazines I read
most often into a Favorites List.  When I go to that link, there they all
are.  I can choose to read by sections, or read the full paper, which is
what I always do.  I just go down by heading or by specific heading level.
I don't use Outlook at all for this.  If I find an article or recipe I want
to save, I just copy and paste it into Word.  
HTH.
Here's the link.
http://www.nfbnewslineonline.org/NOLHome.jsp
Rebecca
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Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 11:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] NFB Newsline and JAWS

Hi. Will someone who reads NFB Newsline attachments with JAWS give me some
tips on how to do it?

Background. I've just upgraded from Office 2010 to Office 2016. With Office
2010, I made a file association between .XM> files and MS Word in order to
read one of the Newsline attachments. Not ideal, but workable. But this file
association produces nothing readable with Word 2016.

I just re-tried opening the Newsline .OPf attachment with FS Reader 3.0.
This file extension allows me to open files from other sources with FS
Reader; however, still not those from NFB Newsline.

Any ideas?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] NFB Newsline and JAWS

[Rebecca Lineberger]

Hello Adrian,
Just in case you haven't heard from the Newsline team yet, or if anyone else
might find this helpful,
Here is the link to manage options.
Return to Online Options.
http://www.nfbnewslineonline.org/NOLGreeting.jsp
>From here, I went to the link:
Manage Your Web Favorite Publications
On that page, there will be links to remove each of the publications you've
added to your Favorites list, as well as these two links:
Add a publication to your favorites from an Alphabetical List of
Publications.
Add a publication to your favorites from Publications Organized by State
List.
If I go to the alphabetical list of publications, I get a whole list of
publications, with a link below each to add it to the Favorites List
Publication Name
AARP Bulletin
Add AARP Bulletin to your Web Favorites
AARP Magazine
Add AARP Magazine to your Web Favorites
ABC News
Add ABC News to your Web Favorites 
HTH.  Smile.
Rebecca
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 1:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] NFB Newsline and JAWS

Rebecca, you come through again. thanks for this explanation and link. right
now I'm finding the instructions for how to select favorites on the website
circular, so I've emailed the Newsline people for help. When I figure it
out, I'll be happy to use it instead of email, or perhaps in addition to.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 10:29 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] NFB Newsline and JAWS

Hi Adrian,
This is perhaps not what you want, but I just go to their web page and
choose what I wish to read.  I've put the newspapers and magazines I read
most often into a Favorites List.  When I go to that link, there they all
are.  I can choose to read by sections, or read the full paper, which is
what I always do.  I just go down by heading or by specific heading level.
I don't use Outlook at all for this.  If I find an article or recipe I want
to save, I just copy and paste it into Word.  
HTH.
Here's the link.
http://www.nfbnewslineonline.org/NOLHome.jsp
Rebecca
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 11:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] NFB Newsline and JAWS

Hi. Will someone who reads NFB Newsline attachments with JAWS give me some
tips on how to do it?

Background. I've just upgraded from Office 2010 to Office 2016. With Office
2010, I made a file association between .XM> files and MS Word in order to
read one of the Newsline attachments. Not ideal, but workable. But this file
association produces nothing readable with Word 2016.

I just re-tried opening the Newsline .OPf attachment with FS Reader 3.0.
This file extension allows me to open files from other sources with FS
Reader; however, still not those from NFB Newsline.

Any ideas?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] NFB Newsline and JAWS

[Rebecca Lineberger]

Hi Adrian,
This is perhaps not what you want, but I just go to their web page and
choose what I wish to read.  I've put the newspapers and magazines I read
most often into a Favorites List.  When I go to that link, there they all
are.  I can choose to read by sections, or read the full paper, which is
what I always do.  I just go down by heading or by specific heading level.
I don't use Outlook at all for this.  If I find an article or recipe I want
to save, I just copy and paste it into Word.  
HTH.
Here's the link.
http://www.nfbnewslineonline.org/NOLHome.jsp
Rebecca
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 11:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] NFB Newsline and JAWS

Hi. Will someone who reads NFB Newsline attachments with JAWS give me some
tips on how to do it?

Background. I've just upgraded from Office 2010 to Office 2016. With Office
2010, I made a file association between .XM> files and MS Word in order to
read one of the Newsline attachments. Not ideal, but workable. But this file
association produces nothing readable with Word 2016.

I just re-tried opening the Newsline .OPf attachment with FS Reader 3.0.
This file extension allows me to open files from other sources with FS
Reader; however, still not those from NFB Newsline.

Any ideas?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Why does the way JAWS is displaying Outlook messages change?

[Rebecca Lineberger]

Thank you, Adrian.
I have Outlook 2010 and JAWS 2018, though the problem happened with JAWS 18
too.  I'd gone into the Quick Settings menu and unchecked all the options
for tables.  That made reading much easier.  But today I got an email from a
company that was missing half its usual content.  So I followed your
instructions, and got a warning that possibly harmful content would not be
blocked.  I trust this company so chose to open the message in the web
browser.  All the usual content magically reappeared.  
Sometimes there is an option when we open a message to "click here" to open
the message in the web browser if the message is not displaying properly.
But sometimes JAWS reads this, but there's nothing in the message to arrow
to, to read the message and click.  There probably would have been if I'd
used the JAWS cursor.  Smile.  I just hadn't thought to search the ribbon
for options.
There may be security settings in Outlook that could be changed, but I'd
rather deal with messages on an individual basis.
Rebecca
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 11:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Why does the way JAWS is displaying Outlook
messages change?

It tends to happen with lengthy messages that contain tables. It also
happens more often with JAWS 2018 than JAWS 18. I just now had to switch
from 2018 to 18 to read such a message. 
That said, the IE method takes little time and sometimes has the advantage
of putting me on the Web, where I'm likely to link from anyway.

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of JOHN RIEHL
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 6:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Why does the way JAWS is displaying Outlook
messages change?

I appreciate that, Adrian, but it shouldn't be happening AT ALL.
Are you saying this happens to you as well?
I'd be curious how many others are experiencing this issue. 
 


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Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 5:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Why does the way JAWS is displaying Outlook
messages change?

Here's how I handle this problem with Outlook 2010. I put the message in
Internet Explorer by pressing alt-h, wait a moment, then a, then v. JAWS
tends to read such messages fine in this window. 

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Behalf Of JOHN RIEHL
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 2:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Why does the way JAWS is displaying Outlook messages
change?

I'm using the latest JAWS and Outlook-2010. Very frequently, for no apparent
reason, JAWS messages in Outlook become very difficult to read. Instead of a
nice and readable message, JAWS will say stuff like: nesting level x; table;
nesting level 3, etc etc; the actual text is very difficult to read. 

Exiting JAWS and restarting the program fixes the problem for a while.
What's going on and how can I fix it?

Thanks. John  

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing

[Rebecca Lineberger]

You can also go into the JAWS Settings Center and configure the insert key
to work as a sticky key.  That way, it can be pressed by itself first and
then whatever other keys are in the command. I had mine set this way and
find it much easier.  It works for both insert keys. 
HTH.
Rebecca
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Behalf Of Dave...Oregonian
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 12:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing

I guess you need to use two hands in your case, with only a single Windows
key.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message -
From: 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 08:37
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing


OK, now tell me how I am to reach all these keys at once on a keyboard with
one left Windows key?  I have not had the freezing problem but I don't have
large hands, using standard desktop layout.  I will probably never need it,
I hope but for heaven sakes how does one manage such reaches.


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Behalf Of Eric Damery
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2018 9:32 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing

Hello list,

The dump command (JAWSKey+WindowsKey+F4) will restart JAWS automatically
while it creates a dump file to show what was happening at the time of the
loss of speech. It would be potentially very helpful to contact the Support
department and offer the Dump File with an explanation of what you were
doing when it the loss of speech occurred and how often you are seeing this.

These issues are difficult to track down as they happen randomly and most
certainly have something to do with JAWS interacting with UIA from Windows.
We are making progress on this every day and appreciate your continued
feedback and support in tracking these down.

Regards,
Eric

Eric Damery
VFO(tm) | VP Software Product Management
11800 31st Court North, St. Petersburg, FL 33716 T 727-299-6110 F
727-803-8001 edam...@vfogroup.com www.vfogroup.com

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2018 11:21 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing

I think this is the "JAWS dump" keystroke referred to in the original post.
I did not think this keystroke automatically restarted JAWS? I'd better give
it a try. Usually I just kill JAWS with task manager, or nowadays, process
explorer, since task manager got ridiculously slow and basically unusable
lately.



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Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: January 29, 2018 10:48 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing

I'm not sure it's been mentioned in this thread, but when I experience
freezing for a few seconds, I press JAWS key+Windows key+F4. This command
almost always restarts JAWS within another few seconds. I believe it helps
to first alt-ab out of the application where the freeze occurred.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of George Marshall
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2018 10:41 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing

Hi Dave:

I have only JAWS 17 and JAWS 2018 on my computer at this time, I would have
to go out and download 16, but appreciate your Input.

Thanks,
George R. Marshall
geoma4.marsh...@gmail.com

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Behalf Of David G. Carlson Via iPhone
Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2018 11:20 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing

George,
If you have jaws 16 on your machine, run jaws 16  for a while and see if the
problem goes away. I m betting on it will.

Dave

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 28, 2018, at 8:10 AM, George Marshall 
wrote:

Hi:

I am using Windows 7, jaws 2018 and eight gig of RAM. I have the freezing
problem it will freeze while reading email or in Microsoft word version 10
and I've seen it do it on the Internet. Have no idea what the solution is.

Thanks

George R. Marshall
geoma4.marsh...@gmail.com

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Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2018 7:00 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing

I must report that I am not experiencing this freezing problem at all here.
In fact 2018 is quite stable on the systems I have it installed and use
every day as a matter of fact. Naturally all systems do not act the same for

Re: [JAWS-Users] weather underground

[Rebecca Lineberger]

I have IE11 open.
If I press alt-f for file, JAWS says: 
Menu, new tab.
Arrow up four times and JAWS should say:
Send, submenu.
Press enter.
There are only three items in this menu.
Arrow down to, 
Shortcut to desktop.
Press enter.
IE11 will then ask you if you want to put a shortcut on your desktop.
Press enter.
HTH.
Rebecca
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Behalf Of Miriam Vieni
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2018 2:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] weather underground

That choice wasn't among those listed when I followed your directions.
There was no "send as link to desktop".

Miriam 

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Behalf Of Blackwell, Clifford
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2018 10:43 AM
To: 'jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com' 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] weather underground

When you're on the page with the weather, hit alt+f to open Files.  Arrow
down to Send As and arrow right to a list of options.  Arrow up or down
until you here send as link to desktop and hit enter.  You should now have a
link to that page on your desktop.  If you need or want to change the
name/info in the link, focus on the link and hit f2 to edit the link name.

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Behalf Of Miriam Vieni
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2018 7:53 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] weather underground

Thanks to Gerald. That worked. And apparently, last night, I did manage to
get the page for 11746 in My Favorites, or maybe I just did it now. That
will do. But is there a way from getting it from My Favorites to the
desktop?

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[JAWS-Users] Two Fixes For Problems, A Comment

[Rebecca Lineberger]

I realized after I sent the below message that the typing echo in the
calculator should, emphasis, normally be set to none, as it indeed was.  But
that assumes that JAWS is always speaking the display as it updates, which
mine now is not.  So until JAWS finds its voice, smile, I'll leave the
typing echo as it is now so that I can hear what I type.

Rebecca

 

I'm using Windows 10, the 1709 Fall Creator's update, with version 2018 of
JAWS.  The Windows 10 calculator was not speaking at all. The only way to
confirm what I'd typed was to turn the numlock off and read the current
line, or to tab and then shift tab back and JAWS would read the display.
Both doable, but annoying.  

I opened Quick Settings and arrowed through the list, just to see if there
might be something I could change.  There was.  Smile. I've never touched
this but somehow, the typing echo was set to none.  It's on character
everywhere else.  Now it's set to character in the calculator as well and
what I type is spoken.  Alas, JAWS still does not speak the result when I
press the enter key, so that I still have to tab and shift tab back to have
the amount read, or I have to turn the numlock off and read the current
line.  But the aggravation level has been considerably reduced.  Smile.

The second problem was brought up by someone on the list, Adrian I think.
If I alt-tab away from a page and then come back, JAWS will not always keep
my place on the page.  It would be lovely if it could remember
automatically, but if I remember to insert a temporary place marker,
control-windows key-k before I alt-tab away, all I have to do is press k
when I come back and JAWS will return to where I'd been reading.

I think the documentation says that the temporary place marker will stay
until the page changes, so I assume that if the page updates while I'm away
from it, the place marker will be lost.  Usually though, I'm only pasting
material into Word. In this case I have to remember to insert that place
marker before I leave.  The temporary place marker I set at the beginning of
the copy process does not work as a placeholder after the material has been
copied.

HTH.

Rebecca

 

 

 

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[Rebecca Lineberger]

I'm using Windows 10, the 1709 Fall Creator's update, with version 2018 of
JAWS.  The Windows 10 calculator was not speaking at all. The only way to
confirm what I'd typed was to turn the numlock off and read the current
line, or to tab and then shift tab back and JAWS would read the display.
Both doable, but annoying.  

I opened Quick Settings and arrowed through the list, just to see if there
might be something I could change.  There was.  Smile. I've never touched
this but somehow, the typing echo was set to none.  It's on character
everywhere else.  Now it's set to character in the calculator as well and
what I type is spoken.  Alas, JAWS still does not speak the result when I
press the enter key, so that I still have to tab and shift tab back to have
the amount read, or I have to turn the numlock off and read the current
line.  But the aggravation level has been considerably reduced.  Smile.

The second problem was brought up by someone on the list, Adrian I think.
If I alt-tab away from a page and then come back, JAWS will not always keep
my place on the page.  It would be lovely if it could remember
automatically, but if I remember to insert a temporary place marker,
control-windows key-k before I alt-tab away, all I have to do is press k
when I come back and JAWS will return to where I'd been reading.

I think the documentation says that the temporary place marker will stay
until the page changes, so I assume that if the page updates while I'm away
from it, the place marker will be lost.  Usually though, I'm only pasting
material into Word. In this case I have to remember to insert that place
marker before I leave.  The temporary place marker I set at the beginning of
the copy process does not work as a placeholder after the material has been
copied.

HTH.

Rebecca

 

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Revealing File Extensions in Windows 10

[Rebecca Lineberger]

I'm using Windows 10, Fall Creator update.
Perhaps you've already tried this, but if the view is something other than
details, sometimes you have to arrow sideways, rather than up and down, to
find all the views.
If control-shift-6 does not work for you (I don't get a menu-it just
changes) press f6.
You should then be able to arrow sideways through the view options and press
enter on details to change it.
Just one comment, maybe two, smile, about opening attachments.
First, JAWS reads file extensions for the attachments I get in Outlook, even
though I have extensions turned off. I've read about the dangers of double
file extensions in attachments, but from what I read, with file extensions
turned off, there will be an executable icon displayed, which presumably
JAWS would identify.
Second, for security, I never open any attachment, not even when I know and
trust the source.  I save it and then scan it with my antivirus program
before opening it.  And again, JAWS has identified it before I begin any of
that.
Certainly identifying file types is advisable for safety, but perhaps
Microsoft assumes that most people would not recognize what all those three
letter combinations mean, and has switched to icons instead.
JMO.
Rebecca  
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Michele Thredgold
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2017 9:08 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Revealing File Extensions in Windows 10

When I press control-shift-f6, it comes up with the view submenu,  but only
says things like "large icons", "small icons" etc. There's no 'details' item
there.

Cheers!

Michele

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From: JM Casey  <crystallo...@ca.inter.net>
To:  jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
CC: 
Date: Thursday, 21 December 2017 10:38 am
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Revealing File Extensions in Windows 10

>
>
> Hi.
> 
> I just wanted to add, what you say, Rebecca,  about JAWS telling you 
> this information is true ... if you have your view set to "details". 
> If not, you will not see this information, and hitting "right" may 
> just get you to another column of files.
> 
> There are a lot of reasons why I think you should always have your 
> computer show file extensions. But ultimately it's up to you and what 
> you are comfortable with.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger
> Sent: December 20, 2017 5:46 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Revealing File Extensions in Windows 10
> 
> The quick answer to revealing file extensions is to press right arrow 
> on the file your cursor is on and JAWS will tell you the file 
> type-Word document, text document, etc.  I never, with this 
> information, needed to turn on hidden file extensions.
> But if you still want it, with your documents folder open, press 
> alt-f, then o.  Shift-tab once to get to the list of tabs.  Right 
> arrow to View and tab a couple of times to you get to a tree view of a 
> whole list of items you can check or not.  Turning on hidden 
> extensions for known file types is in this list.  Check it and tab to ok.
> For creating a new folder, with Documents open, either press alt-2 on 
> the top row of numbers along the top of your keyboard, or press alt 
> and tab twice to new folder.
> HTH.
> Rebecca
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Michele Thredgold
> Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2017 4:40 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Revealing File Extentions in Windows 10
> 
> Hi everyone. Can someone tell me how to reveal file extensions in 
> Windows 10? I'm find quite a lot is different when I go into the file 
> menu I couldn't find where to create and name a new folder, for 
> instance. If someone could help me out, they'd save me a lot of time 
> and stress digging around a system I'm still new to  (grin).
> 
> Thanks a bunch!
> 
> Michele
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Revealing File Extensions in Windows 10

[Rebecca Lineberger]

You're absolutely right, and I should have mentioned that.  I almost did,
smile, but I've had mine set on details since the dawn of time and don't
even think about it. If it's not set to details, control-shift-6 will get it
there. 
Even if you have file extensions turned off, you can always use search to
find files of a particular type by typing the file extension you want.
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Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2017 7:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Revealing File Extensions in Windows 10

Hi.

I just wanted to add, what you say, Rebecca,  about JAWS telling you this
information is true ... if you have your view set to "details". If not, you
will not see this information, and hitting "right" may just get you to
another column of files. 

There are a lot of reasons why I think you should always have your computer
show file extensions. But ultimately it's up to you and what you are
comfortable with.

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Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: December 20, 2017 5:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Revealing File Extensions in Windows 10

The quick answer to revealing file extensions is to press right arrow on the
file your cursor is on and JAWS will tell you the file type--Word document,
text document, etc.  I never, with this information, needed to turn on
hidden file extensions.
But if you still want it, with your documents folder open, press alt-f, then
o.  Shift-tab once to get to the list of tabs.  Right arrow to View and tab
a couple of times to you get to a tree view of a whole list of items you can
check or not.  Turning on hidden extensions for known file types is in this
list.  Check it and tab to ok.
For creating a new folder, with Documents open, either press alt-2 on the
top row of numbers along the top of your keyboard, or press alt and tab
twice to new folder.
HTH.
Rebecca
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Behalf Of Michele Thredgold
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2017 4:40 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Revealing File Extentions in Windows 10

Hi everyone. Can someone tell me how to reveal file extensions in Windows
10? I'm find quite a lot is different when I go into the file menu I
couldn't find where to create and name a new folder, for instance. If
someone could help me out, they'd save me a lot of time and stress digging
around a system I'm still new to  (grin).

Thanks a bunch!

Michele 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Revealing File Extensions in Windows 10

[Rebecca Lineberger]

The quick answer to revealing file extensions is to press right arrow on the
file your cursor is on and JAWS will tell you the file type--Word document,
text document, etc.  I never, with this information, needed to turn on
hidden file extensions.
But if you still want it, with your documents folder open, press alt-f, then
o.  Shift-tab once to get to the list of tabs.  Right arrow to View and tab
a couple of times to you get to a tree view of a whole list of items you can
check or not.  Turning on hidden extensions for known file types is in this
list.  Check it and tab to ok.
For creating a new folder, with Documents open, either press alt-2 on the
top row of numbers along the top of your keyboard, or press alt and tab
twice to new folder.
HTH.
Rebecca
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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Michele Thredgold
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2017 4:40 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Revealing File Extentions in Windows 10

Hi everyone. Can someone tell me how to reveal file extensions in Windows
10? I'm find quite a lot is different when I go into the file menu I
couldn't find where to create and name a new folder, for instance. If
someone could help me out, they'd save me a lot of time and stress digging
around a system I'm still new to  (grin).

Thanks a bunch!

Michele 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Checking spelling with JAWS cursor

[Rebecca Lineberger]

Adrian,
On the principle of "use it or lose it," there's no danger of us ever
getting senile!  LOL.  We have to remember too much.
How easy computers must be for those who can look at the screen and see
everything at a glance.  Click, click!  No keystrokes to remember!  Smile.
Rebecca 
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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 12:35 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Checking spelling with JAWS cursor

Rebecca,
I'm impressed. Your method works. But I have to tell you I'm grinning. How
anyone could figure out such a non-intuitive solution is beyond me. JAWS
users can be amazing. Such feats of intellect over an address line! No
sarcasm intended. Just astonishment at the attention we must give to
seemingly little things.

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 11:50 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Checking spelling with JAWS cursor

Adrian,
If I am using the PC cursor, I get the same results with my Outlook 2010 as
you describe.  I can arrow through:
B e h a l f,  o f,
But it won't arrow through your name.
However, if I shift-tab back to the "From:" line, and  then press
control-left arrow till I hear JAWS begin to spell the word Behalf backwards
As I press the control-left arrow, I can then switch to the JAWS cursor with
insert-minus and I can arrow forward through your name with the right arrow
key. 
Not to belabor the topic, but just in case this clarification helps.
Rebecca
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 8:58 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Checking spelling with JAWS cursor

David,

I just put focus in the "From" line and maximized the window. Same result.
But I should elaborate. I can get JAWS to go character by character through
parts of the "From" line in your message, such as "on behalf of," but as
soon as your name appears, this capability ceases. I can have your name
spelled out by pressing JAWS key+numpad 5, but I can't go character by
character.

Again, I'm not overly worried about this. I only wanted to give Maria a
workaround. But it is curious. I'm glad to know that it works on many
systems and that perhaps when I one day upgrade to Outlook 2016 I'll have
this function.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Whitehead
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 7:57 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Checking spelling with JAWS cursor

Adrian;
when you enter on a message, and do the shift+tab to the from line, make
sure the screen is maximized.
I went in to your message,
pressed the keystroke, windows-key+down-arrow, to minimize the screen, I
could not read the address, once I did the windows-key+up-arrow to maximize?
I was able to read.
I find that sometimes going in to a message, the screen is not in the
maximized state.
hope this helps.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 6:53 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Checking spelling with JAWS cursor

Interesting, because in Outlook 2010 I have the same experience as Maria. I
can get the name spelled, but I can't go through it with arrow keys. No
matter. The workaround is simple enough.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Whitehead
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 5:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Checking spelling with JAWS cursor

yes, 2016.


-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 5:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Checking spelling with JAWS cursor

With Outlook?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Whitehead
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 4:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Checking spelling with JAWS cursor

Hi Adrian;
well, I just entered on your message,
did a shift+tab until I got to the from line, now, route jaws to pc, and was
able to either ctrl+lef or right, or, able to read character by character.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 4:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list

Re: [JAWS-Users] Checking spelling with JAWS cursor

[Rebecca Lineberger]

Adrian,
If I am using the PC cursor, I get the same results with my Outlook 2010 as
you describe.  I can arrow through:
B e h a l f,  o f,
But it won't arrow through your name.
However, if I shift-tab back to the "From:" line, and  then press
control-left arrow till I hear JAWS begin to spell the word
Behalf backwards
As I press the control-left arrow, I can then switch to the JAWS cursor with
insert-minus and I can arrow forward through your name with the right arrow
key. 
Not to belabor the topic, but just in case this clarification helps.
Rebecca
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 8:58 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Checking spelling with JAWS cursor

David,

I just put focus in the "From" line and maximized the window. Same result.
But I should elaborate. I can get JAWS to go character by character through
parts of the "From" line in your message, such as "on behalf of," but as
soon as your name appears, this capability ceases. I can have your name
spelled out by pressing JAWS key+numpad 5, but I can't go character by
character.

Again, I'm not overly worried about this. I only wanted to give Maria a
workaround. But it is curious. I'm glad to know that it works on many
systems and that perhaps when I one day upgrade to Outlook 2016 I'll have
this function.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Whitehead
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 7:57 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Checking spelling with JAWS cursor

Adrian;
when you enter on a message, and do the shift+tab to the from line, make
sure the screen is maximized.
I went in to your message,
pressed the keystroke, windows-key+down-arrow, to minimize the screen, I
could not read the address, once I did the windows-key+up-arrow to maximize?
I was able to read.
I find that sometimes going in to a message, the screen is not in the
maximized state.
hope this helps.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 6:53 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Checking spelling with JAWS cursor

Interesting, because in Outlook 2010 I have the same experience as Maria. I
can get the name spelled, but I can't go through it with arrow keys. No
matter. The workaround is simple enough.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Whitehead
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 5:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Checking spelling with JAWS cursor

yes, 2016.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 5:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Checking spelling with JAWS cursor

With Outlook?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Whitehead
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 4:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Checking spelling with JAWS cursor

Hi Adrian;
well, I just entered on your message,
did a shift+tab until I got to the from line, now, route jaws to pc, and was
able to either ctrl+lef or right, or, able to read character by character.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 4:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Checking spelling with JAWS cursor

Hi, David. Yes, this works the way you describe, but it doesn't solve the
problem that you can't arrow through a name to check spelling. That's a
problem when you have the long "From" lines that come with list messages. 

FYI, you can get directly into the "From" field by holding down the alt key
and pressing 1 above the letters twice quickly.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Whitehead
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 3:20 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Checking spelling with JAWS cursor

hello;
in outlook;

1, enter on the message in which you wish to find out the sender's name to
spell,

2, shift+tab to the from line,
make sure the name/email is highlighted, now use the insert+numpad5 pressed
twice quickly.
works for me all the time.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 12:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Checking spelling with 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Checking spelling with JAWS cursor

[Rebecca Lineberger]

Hi Adrian,
I'm using Outlook 2010.  Shift-tabbing back in an open message till I get to
the "From" line and then routing JAWS to PC does indeed let me check
spelling of names.  But as I think as also been mentioned, you can do the
same by pressing control-r (which you would probably be doing anyway,
assuming you were going to reply to the message) and then arrowing down to
the "From" line. It's also just as quick, instead of arrowing down, just to
tell JAWS to find the word "behalf", without the quotes. 
As usual, many ways of doing the same thing.
Rebecca
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 5:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Checking spelling with JAWS cursor

With Outlook?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Whitehead
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 4:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Checking spelling with JAWS cursor

Hi Adrian;
well, I just entered on your message,
did a shift+tab until I got to the from line, now, route jaws to pc, and was
able to either ctrl+lef or right, or, able to read character by character.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 4:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Checking spelling with JAWS cursor

Hi, David. Yes, this works the way you describe, but it doesn't solve the
problem that you can't arrow through a name to check spelling. That's a
problem when you have the long "From" lines that come with list messages. 

FYI, you can get directly into the "From" field by holding down the alt key
and pressing 1 above the letters twice quickly.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Whitehead
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 3:20 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Checking spelling with JAWS cursor

hello;
in outlook;

1, enter on the message in which you wish to find out the sender's name to
spell,

2, shift+tab to the from line,
make sure the name/email is highlighted, now use the insert+numpad5 pressed
twice quickly.
works for me all the time.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 12:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Checking spelling with JAWS cursor

In Outlook, JAWS won't read info in the "From" field letter by letter.
Instead, set up a reply to the message and arrow down to the "From" line.
Then you'll be able to go letter by letter. Just be sure not to hit "Reply"!

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 12:26 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Checking spelling with JAWS cursor

For sometime now I have not been able to use my JAWS cursor to check
spelling.  Example, I'm trying to check the spelling of Eric Damery's last
name on the from field in a message.  When I route JAWS cursor to pc cursor,
JAWS just says blank.  What's up with that?  I'm using Thunderbird and JAWS
2018.



-- 

Maria Campbell
lucky1i...@gmail.com

"Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
--St. Francis


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR

[Rebecca Lineberger]

George,
As I said, I'm using JAWS version 2018.  I loaded version 18, and I don't
have
Recognize with JAWS
Displayed in the context menu for the PDF file.  I'm assuming that this way
of using OCR is not available with older versions of JAWS.  I checked, and
the layered keystrokes insert-spacebar, o then d work once you've opened the
file with Adobe and gotten the 
Alert, empty document message.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of George Martinez Sr
Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2017 10:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR

Rebecca,
I followed your suggestion in my JAWS 18, Windows 10 system and used a PDF
file.  When I press enter JAWS gives me this strange dialog box message:
"Convenient OCR is not available unless JAWS 19 or later is running"
Seems that method does not work for all...  Would be nice if it did.
George


The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and
expecting different results.
George a Martinez CPA, PC
12231 N 50th Avenue
Glendale, Arizona 85304-2215
Voice  602.368.8854  FAX  206-666-2589
Email  ga.marti...@cox.net


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 5:05 PM
To: jaws user's list <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR

There have been several questions about OCR and saving the scanned results.
This is what I did.  This is a bit detailed, so delete as you please.
Smile.  

I'm using Windows 10 1709 Creator update, Jaws 2018 and Word 2010. 

I have several image files saved so was able to test using these formats"
PDF and JPG.

Rather than first opening the PDF file, waiting for the 

"alert, empty document,"

message,  and then scanning with the layered keystrokes, insert-spacebar, o,
then d, 

with the PDF file selected in a folder in Documents, I used the context menu
key, also known as the application key, and arrowed down to 

Recognize with JAWS.

I pressed enter and after a second or two, JAWS said

Started.

The scanned information was there to read.  I was able to select and copy it
with the usual Windows commands, either shift-down arrow to select, or
control a, to select all, and control c to copy.

I then pasted the results into Word, and there it was, to be saved as usual.
I did not try to save in Notepad, assuming that if all worked in Word,
notepad would be no different.

As to the second format,  a print letter with an embedded picture, scanned
in Kurzweil and saved as a JPG image, it worked a bit different.

All went the same until I pasted the copied information into Word.  Again, I
used the context menu key on the file name to arrow to 

Recognize with JAWS.  

I was told that the image was right-side up, and there was the text waiting
to be read.  But when I copied and pasted it into Word, Word was not happy,
smile, and kept giving me information about 

non-uniform tables, row and column information.  Rather than playing with my
table settings in the JAWS quick settings menu, I figured notepad might be a
better option in this case.

When I pasted the same copied results into notepad, the file read as it had
when scanned by JAWS. 

At this point, just because I prefer saving in Word, I reselected the
information in notepad, copied it, and pasted it into Word.  Word was no
longer cross, muttering about tables, so all was well. 

For those who have made it to the end, HTH.  Smile.

Rebecca

 

 

 

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[JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR

[Rebecca Lineberger]

There have been several questions about OCR and saving the scanned results.
This is what I did.  This is a bit detailed, so delete as you please.
Smile.  

I'm using Windows 10 1709 Creator update, Jaws 2018 and Word 2010. 

I have several image files saved so was able to test using these formats"
PDF and JPG.

Rather than first opening the PDF file, waiting for the 

"alert, empty document,"

message,  and then scanning with the layered keystrokes, insert-spacebar, o,
then d, 

with the PDF file selected in a folder in Documents, I used the context menu
key, also known as the application key, and arrowed down to 

Recognize with JAWS.

I pressed enter and after a second or two, JAWS said

Started.

The scanned information was there to read.  I was able to select and copy it
with the usual Windows commands, either shift-down arrow to select, or
control a, to select all, and control c to copy.

I then pasted the results into Word, and there it was, to be saved as usual.
I did not try to save in Notepad, assuming that if all worked in Word,
notepad would be no different.

As to the second format,  a print letter with an embedded picture, scanned
in Kurzweil and saved as a JPG image, it worked a bit different.

All went the same until I pasted the copied information into Word.  Again, I
used the context menu key on the file name to arrow to 

Recognize with JAWS.  

I was told that the image was right-side up, and there was the text waiting
to be read.  But when I copied and pasted it into Word, Word was not happy,
smile, and kept giving me information about 

non-uniform tables, row and column information.  Rather than playing with my
table settings in the JAWS quick settings menu, I figured notepad might be a
better option in this case.

When I pasted the same copied results into notepad, the file read as it had
when scanned by JAWS. 

At this point, just because I prefer saving in Word, I reselected the
information in notepad, copied it, and pasted it into Word.  Word was no
longer cross, muttering about tables, so all was well. 

For those who have made it to the end, HTH.  Smile.

Rebecca

 

 

 

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[JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge And Copying Text

[Rebecca Lineberger]

Perhaps this will be of interest to someone.

I was playing with Edge this morning, browsing recipes.  I found one I
wanted to copy but it's not yet possible to do this either in JAWS or
Narrator.  Rather than search for the recipe using IE or Chrome, I opted for
a work-around.  I unloaded JAWS and pressed control a, for select all, then
pressed control c.  I then opened Word and pressed control v.  I then loaded
JAWS and there was the recipe, along with the rest of the web page.  Smile.
I just told JAWS to find one of the words in the recipe title, and then
deleted everything above and below the recipe. It was cumbersome, but it
worked.  The process was even easier when I tried the same thing using the
print button.  I tabbed through until I got to cancel and there was the
recipe, stripped of everything else.

Granted, it's far easier at this point to use IE or Chrome, but if you get
annoyed or frustrated at not being able to do something technologically
that's available to others, there is sometimes a work-around.   

Perhaps Microsoft will resolve this for us soon.  Smile.

Rebecca

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Several Questions

[Rebecca Lineberger]

Adrian,
Thank you.  I was just surprised that I got no notification from Freedom
Scientific about the October update.  The September update popped up when I
booted the computer, asking if I wanted to download it.
I did see several notices about the JAWS update.  I'd already checked the
"What's New" for the September update, and probably didn't catch the number
change in the message subject line so thought it referred to the September
one. I still use Office 2010 and am not having any strange problems in Edge,
so perhaps the updates are contextual, only going to those who need them?
It's scary what a website can tell about our computers.  LOL.  With
Window-Eyes, we got all updates regardless of whether we were having a
particular problem or not.
Thanks for your response.  Did you put in the October update for version 18?


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 7:02 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Several Questions

Rebecca,

A partial response. First, I knew of the October update only because another
contributor here, Mike B, posted not only the alert, but also the download
links and the improvements list. You can count on him to keep us advised of
every release.
FYI, JAWS uses the word "version" to refer to the basic number (such as 17,
18, now 2018). Periodically "releases" or new "builds" are released, and
this is where you get the four digits following the decimal point. 

I'm a long-term JAWS user, but like you, I wait a while to make sure a new
version doesn't have something unpleasant lurking in it. I'm grateful that
other JAWS users are more eager to keep up to date. 

Others will have to answer your Edge questions.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 5:41 PM
To: jaws user's list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Several Questions

I'm a new JAWS user migrated from Window-Eyes, so be patient with what may
be questions with obvious answers.  Smile..

I'm currently running JAWS 18 with the September 2017 update.

I got no notification of a later update and the Check For Updates in the
Help menu confirms that I'm running the most current version.  But I found
this on the JAWS website:

JAWS 18.0.4350  64-bit  English - October 2017

The following is a list of improvements made between the JAWS 18 September
2017 release and the October 2017 update.

list of 3 items

. Resolved a customer reported issue with the 8400 series of Outlook 365
updates where JAWS was not automatically reading the suggested addresses
when

typing in the address fields of a new message. To check your Outlook 365
version, use the JAWS command CTRL+INSERT+V while focused in Outlook.

. Addressed issues where Edge would unexpectedly stop working while
navigating on various pages.

. Added new Research It lookup sources to the French version of JAWS for two
libraries for the blind in France.

list end

I found this only because I was helping a friend set up Edge and her arrows
weren't reading down the page.  A JAWS tech told her there was an October
update.

My Edge is reading properly.  Should I put the new update in anyway?  I plan
to download 2018 but It will probably be a month or two before the Fall
Creator's update finds my computer, so I thought I'd let more technical
people test-drive the 2018 version of JAWS for the next few weeks. 

Also, the JAWS tech told my friend, if she understood correctly, that there
is no virtual cursor in Edge.  When I've tried to copy material in Edge,
JAWS says, "selection using the virtual cursor is not yet supported in
Edge."

I had assume from this that the virtual cursor is being used.  

And my last comment, for those of you running JAWS 2018, are you now able to
select and copy text, or is this still in the works?

Thanks.

Rebecca 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Several Questions

[Rebecca Lineberger]

Thank you.  I do use both IE and Chrome. I do a lot of research on the
internet, so Edge, without the ability to copy, is not that functional for
me, though I've been playing with it, wanting to learn as much as I can. 
Should I put in the October update for my JAWS 18 version?
And just one more unrelated question.  Smile.
Would it ever be possible for JAWS to allow passwords to be spoken as we
type, instead of hearing star, star, star?  It could be a toggle, so users
could select which they wanted.  But many people have hand issues as they
get older and it's great to have our keystrokes confirmed.  JAWS already has
a setting to help those with hand issues by allowing the insert key to be a
sticky key so that commands can be pressed sequencially.
Rebecca  
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Eric Damery
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 7:15 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Several Questions

Text selection and copy/paste is not yet working in Edge with JAWS. I
suggest using one of the other browsers as your default. Support for Chrome,
IE, and Firefox is much more robust in these with assistive technology
today.

Regards,
Eric Damery


On Oct 30, 2017, at 7:02 PM, Adrian Spratt
<adr...@adrianspratt.com<mailto:adr...@adrianspratt.com>> wrote:

Rebecca,

A partial response. First, I knew of the October update only because another
contributor here, Mike B, posted not only the alert, but also the download
links and the improvements list. You can count on him to keep us advised of
every release.
FYI, JAWS uses the word "version" to refer to the basic number (such as 17,
18, now 2018). Periodically "releases" or new "builds" are released, and
this is where you get the four digits following the decimal point.

I'm a long-term JAWS user, but like you, I wait a while to make sure a new
version doesn't have something unpleasant lurking in it. I'm grateful that
other JAWS users are more eager to keep up to date.

Others will have to answer your Edge questions.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 5:41 PM
To: jaws user's list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Several Questions

I'm a new JAWS user migrated from Window-Eyes, so be patient with what may
be questions with obvious answers.  Smile..

I'm currently running JAWS 18 with the September 2017 update.

I got no notification of a later update and the Check For Updates in the
Help menu confirms that I'm running the most current version.  But I found
this on the JAWS website:

JAWS 18.0.4350  64-bit  English - October 2017

The following is a list of improvements made between the JAWS 18 September
2017 release and the October 2017 update.

list of 3 items

. Resolved a customer reported issue with the 8400 series of Outlook 365
updates where JAWS was not automatically reading the suggested addresses
when

typing in the address fields of a new message. To check your Outlook 365
version, use the JAWS command CTRL+INSERT+V while focused in Outlook.

. Addressed issues where Edge would unexpectedly stop working while
navigating on various pages.

. Added new Research It lookup sources to the French version of JAWS for two
libraries for the blind in France.

list end

I found this only because I was helping a friend set up Edge and her arrows
weren't reading down the page.  A JAWS tech told her there was an October
update.

My Edge is reading properly.  Should I put the new update in anyway?  I plan
to download 2018 but It will probably be a month or two before the Fall
Creator's update finds my computer, so I thought I'd let more technical
people test-drive the 2018 version of JAWS for the next few weeks.

Also, the JAWS tech told my friend, if she understood correctly, that there
is no virtual cursor in Edge.  When I've tried to copy material in Edge,
JAWS says, "selection using the virtual cursor is not yet supported in
Edge."

I had assume from this that the virtual cursor is being used.

And my last comment, for those of you running JAWS 2018, are you now able to
select and copy text, or is this still in the works?

Thanks.

Rebecca

Experience is not what happens to you; it's what you do with what happens to
you.

Aldous Huxley



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[JAWS-Users] Several Questions

[Rebecca Lineberger]

I'm a new JAWS user migrated from Window-Eyes, so be patient with what may
be questions with obvious answers.  Smile..

I'm currently running JAWS 18 with the September 2017 update.

I got no notification of a later update and the Check For Updates in the
Help menu confirms that I'm running the most current version.  But I found
this on the JAWS website:

JAWS 18.0.4350  64-bit  English - October 2017

The following is a list of improvements made between the JAWS 18 September
2017 release and the October 2017 update.

list of 3 items

. Resolved a customer reported issue with the 8400 series of Outlook 365
updates where JAWS was not automatically reading the suggested addresses
when

typing in the address fields of a new message. To check your Outlook 365
version, use the JAWS command CTRL+INSERT+V while focused in Outlook.

. Addressed issues where Edge would unexpectedly stop working while
navigating on various pages.

. Added new Research It lookup sources to the French version of JAWS for two
libraries for the blind in France.

list end

I found this only because I was helping a friend set up Edge and her arrows
weren't reading down the page.  A JAWS tech told her there was an October
update.

My Edge is reading properly.  Should I put the new update in anyway?  I plan
to download 2018 but It will probably be a month or two before the Fall
Creator's update finds my computer, so I thought I'd let more technical
people test-drive the 2018 version of JAWS for the next few weeks. 

Also, the JAWS tech told my friend, if she understood correctly, that there
is no virtual cursor in Edge.  When I've tried to copy material in Edge,
JAWS says, "selection using the virtual cursor is not yet supported in
Edge."

I had assume from this that the virtual cursor is being used.  

And my last comment, for those of you running JAWS 2018, are you now able to
select and copy text, or is this still in the works?

Thanks.

Rebecca 

Experience is not what happens to you; it's what you do with what happens to
you.

Aldous Huxley

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] adding accent marks with JAWS

[Rebecca Lineberger]

Windows - Alt Key Numeric Codes of All including Math, Calculus ,
Language,Accents ,Foreign codes
Here is a link to a website with all kinds of characters and symbols that
can be typed with alt plus a four digit code including
Windows Alt Codes for Accented Vowels
http://technoworld007.blogspot.com/2013/06/windows-alt-key-numeric-codes-of-
all.html
There are tables here listing foreign characters, currency symbols,
fractions, and much more besides, that most of us will never need, until we
do!  Smile.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 5:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] adding accent marks with JAWS

Vicki,

JAWS makes a number of accented letters available in a list that you access
by pressing JAWS key+4 on the number row above the letters. You arrow down
the list or navigate by first letter, then press enter on the one you want.
Not all symbols are in the list, so it has limited use. 

I'll leave it to others to explain how to assign a keystroke to produce a
given accented letter. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Vicki W.
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 5:44 PM
To: JAWS
Subject: [JAWS-Users] adding accent marks with JAWS

Is there a way to have JAWS automatically add accent marks in a foreign
language word when writing in English?

For example, if I were to write the name Therese which is a French name but
I am writing the document in English, can the correct accent marks be either
added or automatically set to add any time I write the name?

If I need to add them manually, how can I locate them on the keyboard? Not
all of them are on the standard typing keyboard.

Hope this makes sense.

Thanks.

Vicki
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