Re: Possible Cure for Safari Interaction Losing
Hey alex, thanks for the prescription, but unfortunately, I think I may have had an idiosyncratic reaction to this one! lol! I.E. I usually surf with my VO keys locked, and this doesn't seem to make a diff. I'll give this further examination though. Thanks for your consultation! The check's in the mail! lol! Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn On Mar 1, 2009, at 11:31 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: Hi, Diagnosis: Safari randomly causes Voiceover to lose interaction with web pages. Recommended Treatment: Lock the VO Keys. CTRL + OPT + ;. If you lock them while prowsing a page it shouldn't lose interaction. Reason: The reason that this treatment is prescribed to patients experiancing the above symptoms is because the vital organ of Voiceover seems to lose its interaction when the users release the VO Keys for even a second accidently, resulting in akward behavior. Preposed Treatment Cost: Cad $50, ... Smiley. HOpe this helps, Thanks, Alex, --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: mail problem with voiceover.
Hi Søren, I'm actually not using the VO cursor when this happens. That's why I said it's a similar flavor of the issue. smile However, it does act funky for me either way. Have a nice day!… Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn On Mar 3, 2009, at 3:12 AM, Søren Jensen wrote: Hi John and Cara. Don't use the VO cursor when writing mails. I've also had this problem, but when I only use the tab key and the arrow keys, I never have this problem. This is the same in Text edit. I have had a lot of focus problems, but if I only use the arrow keys, it works fine. Best regards Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ On 03/03/2009, at 02.33, John J Herzog wrote: Hi listers, I am having a problem with mail that just started occurring. Whenever I interact with a message using voiceover, I lose the ability to type any more text into the message body. This is especially true when I am sending a reply to someone. Here's what happens. I can write in the message initially. However, when I interact with the message and move the cursor where I want to insert more text, I just get a bonk sound as I try typing. Nothing appears on the screen. The only way to fix this is to turn voiceover off and then turn it on again. What's going on here? I used to be able to interact with a message, and move the cursor somewhere other than the end of the message, and insert whatever I wanted. Did something get messed up in mail? If so, how do I change it back to normal? This is really starting to get frustrating. Thanks, John --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Questions about bootcamp
Rafael, you can select an OS at startup by holding down the option key for a few seconds, when you hear the chime. then you'll simply use right or left arrows to select the OS and press enter to boot into that OS. The BootCamp installed OS will always be the last OS all the way to the right, as far as I know. -Corrections anyone?… :-) As far as Fusion being 'better' or 'worse' than BootCamp? they're two totally different ways of running other OS's on your Mac. BootCamp runs an OS natively, whereas Fusion is a virtual solution. HTH and have an awesome evening!… Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn On Mar 3, 2009, at 3:02 PM, Rafael Bejarano wrote: Hello everyone, I'm writing to ask those of you who use Bootcamp a couple of questions. First, how accessible is it? That is, how do you choose which OS to use at start-up? Second, is Bootcamp better than fusion? Why or why not? Thank you for taking the time to answer my questions. Cordially, Rafael Bejarano --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: IWork and ILife
Hi eliza, the correct addie with which to write Apple with your access comments / concerns / commendations and such, is: accessibil...@apple.com They're very nice, as others have said, and absolutely will listen to what you have to say. Best of luck and have a terrific weekend!… Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn On Mar 6, 2009, at 10:15 AM, Eliza Cooper wrote: Does anyone know if the templates in Pages in iWork are accessible with VoiceOver? I'd like to be able to use them. Also, you write to Apple at feedb...@apple.com or something like that, right? Thanks, Eliza On Mar 6, 2009, at 10:04 AM, Dan wrote: Hello, Actually, the more that report to Apple and the different ways we all have of expressing ourselves will go much further toward helping Apple produce a much better product. If only one person does it, then it will be from his or her prospective and may not reflect the whole need. I have always written to apple and I don't plan on stopping and letting only one person do it. The other thing is this. In several instances, Apple has emailed me back with a question or two. They have also mentioned that they really appreciate when VoiceOver users respond with their concerns. Just my thoughts. Dan key...@comcast.net On Mar 6, 2009, at 5:15 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: Yes, but wouldn't it be better if one person wrote to Apple, but that everyone contributed with what they felt needed improving? I dunno, i just sorta think aloud here. /Krister 6 mar 2009 kl. 14.07 skrev A-Pro Studio: Hi, Such reports are possible for each and everyone to give Apple for every Apple product to accessibil...@apple.com - and those of us who are involved in ADC or other portals aimed at developing software for Mac, both inside and outside of Apple, should use their ability to report VO issues. Also, in each Apple software, there is a Provide feedback menu item in the applications own menu, that takes you to a feedback page. I have posted a lot of such issues, and by not trusting such issues should be reported by someone else, but instead post your own found issues, Apple and other developers will get the feedback needed. Thanks, John André On 6. mars. 2009, at 12.11, Scott Howell wrote: And ALex, please do share the report. We all stand to benefit and anything we can provide or the more we share and so forth si going to help us and APple. Apple has the opportunity to make iWorks as accessible and I believe the success of this application will lead to accessibility of other apps. On Mar 5, 2009, at 10:39 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: Hi, Cara et al: I was merely continueing the thread on whether ILife and IWork were accessible. So, in stating what I was doing, I hoped to convey that Apple is working with me to rectify the issues in ILife 09. Thanks, Alex, On 5-Mar-09, at 6:50 PM, Cara Quinn wrote: Alex, are you asking the list something here?… I'm not sure what you're wanting to post. This sounds interesting, care to share with the rest of the class? … smile Sorry if I'm being daft, smile but I'm really not understanding if you're wanting to share something here, or ask for people's input. If ya wouldn't mind, please do be a bit less vague when you can, K? … It really would help me for one, in understanding what you're talking about. Thanks so much and have an awesome evening!… Smiles, Cara :) -- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn On Mar 5, 2009, at 7:36 AM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: Hi, I was asked by Apple to draw up a list of accessibility qwerks in ILife 09. I'm drawing up a report on ILife 09 for Apple which should be submitted very soon. Thanks, Alex, On 5-Mar-09, at 7:06 AM, Greg Kearney wrote: While those other programs are integrated with iWeb it is perfectly possible to create web pages in it without using them. Greg Kearney 535 S. Jackson St. Casper, Wyoming 82601 307-224-4022 gkear...@gmail.com On Mar 5, 2009, at 6:24 AM, Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote: Hello Greg; Just wondering how extensively you tested iweb. Also, it seams to me that just going from what I've read on the net about iweb that it depends on iphoto,, idvd, and possibly even garage band? Could you let me know a little more about it. I wish that apple would offer a trial of the ilife like they have on iwork, but no such luck. Thanks, Max On Mar 5, 2009, at 5:38 AM, Greg Kearney wrote: I have tried iWeb, part of iLife, and found it to be accessible. Keynote, Numbers and Pages (iWork) are all accessible. You can download a trial copy of iWork if you want. Greg Kearney 535 S. Jackson St. Casper, Wyoming 82601 307-224-4022 gkear...@gmail.com On Mar 5, 2009, at 4:34 AM, David Poehlman wrote: many find iwork quite accessible but some like using open office which is free
Re: time zone
Just to reiterate, any city in your time zone will work. I just verified this by typing in New York City to switch to EST and then switching back to my beloved LA LA Land! smile and it switched back to PST immediately. Best of luck!… Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn On Mar 7, 2009, at 2:31 AM, Cara Quinn wrote: Dean and Eliza, you sure can change the timezone with VO. smile Simply type a city in your timezone in the edit field and there you go. If the one you typed in isn't recognized, then go for another one closest you. Once you have one showing up in the edit field simply click close to close the window or do a command w and that's it!… Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn On Mar 7, 2009, at 2:11 AM, Dean Adams wrote: Hey Eliza, I had to get my son to change the time zone as I couldn't find a way with VO to change it so if you have one of those kind sighted animals get them to fix it up for you unless someone has a way that I couldn't find to change it. Regards Dean !!!Thoughts become things so choose the good ones because Life's to short to be a grumble bum !!! Email: d...@internode.on.net Phone: 0243206031 Skype: deanadams9 Mobile: 0428133758 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
IMPORTANT - Pole about future of MacVisionaries
Hello all, first off, please do not reply to this note. Details are below on this. I think I've come up with a workable solution for those listers who want a more informational list as well as those whom would like a more social environment in which to discuss Mac use as visually impaired users. I've come up with two options which I've listed below which I feel can solve this issue once and for all. OPtion 1: I propose we moderate MacVisionaries which would eliminate all but the informational traffic and create a new 'chat-friendly' group where people can simply continue in the current mode of dialogue. I'd still be moderator for the new group, so that it's affairs could be managed, but I wouldn't stop any posts from reaching the list. (so one line responses and such would be fine) Whereas with MacVisionaries, I'd monitor all of it's future posting and only allow posts and relevant discussions through to the list, to manage the list traffic for those who need a lighter quantity of email. Option 2: I propose we keep MacVisionaries as it is now and create a new moderated 'information-only' list. As in the above, the new list posting would be managed so that only informational posts would be seen, and MacVisionaries would remain as it is. Remember, please do not reply to this message, however, I've created a pole at: http://poll.pollcode.com/jg97 where you can vote on this issue and list any comments / opinions you may have either way. NOw, I've not used this site before to set up a pole, so my apologies, as I'm not sure when or if this pole will close, or if it will be completely accessible. It looks good so far, and that's all I can promise. smile Also, as Moderator, I do reserve the final decision. I created the pole for a reason; I do want to know what people think, but if I realize an important compelling reason to go one way or the other, I'll obviously need to bare that in mind. I'll certainly let y'all know if that happens. smile For now though, the pole is up, and I'd truly appreciate your votes / opinions on this. I'll check back in with it in about a week and let you all know when I do so and when it will be officially closed, K?… Have a great night and happy voting!… Smiles, Cara :)--- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: charging PDA's
Will, you should be able to charge any usb device on the Mac. As you well know, the usb on the Mac is standard. So this really would be a feature concerned with your device itself. For future reference, really these sorts of questions that are essentially non-Mac related and more about Windows Mobile devices really need to be directed more toward their respective lists. K?… Have a great day!… Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn On Mar 15, 2009, at 8:59 AM, william lomas wrote: hi does one need i wonder, to be using a iwndows system to charge a windows mobile PDA device? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: charging PDA's
sorry, -not going to do that on the list. smile My door is always open, write me privately and the info is yours! smile Listers whom have speech on their mobile devices are most likely already familiar with the lists those screen reader companies provide, so this is way OT for this list. Now, if we just could get an accessible IPhone happening, then we'd be way on topic!… lol! Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn On Mar 15, 2009, at 11:19 AM, louie wrote: Cara can you tell us the name of these lists? On Mar 15, 2009, at 11:09 AM, Cara Quinn wrote: Will, you should be able to charge any usb device on the Mac. As you well know, the usb on the Mac is standard. So this really would be a feature concerned with your device itself. For future reference, really these sorts of questions that are essentially non-Mac related and more about Windows Mobile devices really need to be directed more toward their respective lists. K?… Have a great day!… Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn On Mar 15, 2009, at 8:59 AM, william lomas wrote: hi does one need i wonder, to be using a iwndows system to charge a windows mobile PDA device? louie louiem...@wavecable.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Voting -and- OT posts
Hey All, just two quickie things this lovely Monday evening… Firstly, our list poll is still up at: http://poll.pollcode.com/jg97 I'll officially honor votes until Wednesday, March 18 at 4:00 PM PDT (california US) so vote vote vote! smile The poll, I believe will actually stay up after that point, but as I said, this Wednesday is the deadline… Okay, now on to OT posts. Listers, please, simply do not post OT posts here. If you know that a post is Off Topic enough so that you feel you need to put OT or some such legend in the subject line, then that post is not one that should be posted here. -Just because it says OT in the subject line doesn't make it okay… If it's really important, and/or you're not sure, then please, by all means feel free to write me off-list at: caraqu...@caraquinn.com And ask to post it. We can discuss it that way… Okay?… Thanks so much for reading and do have a lovely day / evening wherever you may be!… Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Restoring with Time Machine
Ah, thanks Dan, this is possibly exactly what I want. smile However, as a note of concern, when I did my last Time Machine restore, I wasn't given the option to omit a key folder (/library) that I really didn't want copied over. So I'm hoping this will avoid that happening again by simply restoring to an earlier date. Thanks again and I'll definitely write back when I do this with my experience. Have a terrific evening!… Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn On Mar 18, 2009, at 2:24 PM, Dan wrote: Hello, You can also do a restore from the install DVD by launching the dvd as if you were going to install the whole system. However, after you get VO running and you've answered the language questions. On the next screen go to the system utilities submenu and pick restore. You will then be guided through the different items to set. The last one is what time and date to use. Just arrow up or down through the table till you have the one you want. For example, the time machine restore just before the framework you don't want was installed. Then just do the restore and away you go. It will be as if you never had the problem. HTH Dan @comcast.net On Mar 18, 2009, at 1:57 PM, John Panarese wrote: Hi Cara, From experience, I did a wipe and install with Leopard and then used time machine to pull a backup from wich to restore. This worked like a charm for me. I just chose the latest date and I got everything back. As a note, I did this after the install during the setup when you are offered choices of choosing to restore from another volume or from a time machine backup. On Mar 18, 2009, at 4:49 PM, Cara Quinn wrote: Hey All, happy Wednesday to you!… Okay, I have an issue going on that I can't seem to solve. Somehow, whether inadvertently by me, or a bit of software I've installed, a system framework has been installed that I really need to get rid of. I'm wondering if anyone has any tips on how to simply restore my entire system from a backup?… I wiped my main partition last night and reinstalled Leopard, but wasn't offered a choice of backups from Migration assistant. I.E. I wasn't able to choose the date I'd like to restore from. Since the latest restore point also has the new framework, it seems to have come over with everything else, so again, I'm in the situation of needing to restore. aaarrrggg! Sorry, but this is feeling a bit Microsoft to me! lol! So, at this point, I'm simply wanting to go into Time Machine, and pick a date before the possible install, and restore from it. Is this possible?… Otherwise, what in the heck am I supposed to do to get a clean system install yet still retain all of my user data?… Thanks for any help anyone can offer!… You guys rock!… Have a terrific day!… Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Take Care John Panarese --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Restoring with Time Machine
Wow, this is interesting, as I have many backups but only saw one relevant one for the partition I was needing to backup. Incidentally, this is my main partition and as I said, there are many backup points, so go figure. smile I'm honestly not about to do this again right this minute, as I kind of needed to baby sit the Mac last night / today between the install / restore / software updates, so it's just too time-consuming for the moment. However, any other info you might have would sure be appreciated, as I will definitely be doing this again by next week, and I also think this topic may be helpful to new users as well. Have a great day / evening!… -You rock!… Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn On Mar 18, 2009, at 4:16 PM, John Panarese wrote: Hi Cara, When you are going through the setup process and you have the radio buttons to select a new Mac, restoring from a time machine backup or from another volume, I chose the time machine optino. Note that I could not get the restore to work from the Utilities menu of the install DVD. I did have sighted help looking over my shoulder, but when you restore from the time machine backup, you should have the ability to go back. Mine was easy because I only wanted the last backup. Honestly, I didn't spend a lot of time poking around, but I'll ask my friend who was there if he remembers what all the options were if you need me to. Take Care On Mar 18, 2009, at 6:57 PM, Cara Quinn wrote: John, where were you offered the choice of dates from which to restore?… I didn't see this at all. I chose restore from a Time Machine backup, but didn't see any place to enter or choose a date. Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn On Mar 18, 2009, at 1:57 PM, John Panarese wrote: Hi Cara, From experience, I did a wipe and install with Leopard and then used time machine to pull a backup from wich to restore. This worked like a charm for me. I just chose the latest date and I got everything back. As a note, I did this after the install during the setup when you are offered choices of choosing to restore from another volume or from a time machine backup. On Mar 18, 2009, at 4:49 PM, Cara Quinn wrote: Hey All, happy Wednesday to you!… Okay, I have an issue going on that I can't seem to solve. Somehow, whether inadvertently by me, or a bit of software I've installed, a system framework has been installed that I really need to get rid of. I'm wondering if anyone has any tips on how to simply restore my entire system from a backup?… I wiped my main partition last night and reinstalled Leopard, but wasn't offered a choice of backups from Migration assistant. I.E. I wasn't able to choose the date I'd like to restore from. Since the latest restore point also has the new framework, it seems to have come over with everything else, so again, I'm in the situation of needing to restore. aaarrrggg! Sorry, but this is feeling a bit Microsoft to me! lol! So, at this point, I'm simply wanting to go into Time Machine, and pick a date before the possible install, and restore from it. Is this possible?… Otherwise, what in the heck am I supposed to do to get a clean system install yet still retain all of my user data?… Thanks for any help anyone can offer!… You guys rock!… Have a terrific day!… Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Take Care John Panarese --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Important!!! - Re: Poll Results
Listers, yes, as Maurice says, take this off-list immediately! - I'm not gone yet, and am glad I caught this. Come on people, honestly, how many different ways do I need to keep saying, 'Don't post one liners / off-topic (non-Mac-related) / list policy notes to this list!' I.E. If you want to give your feedback on a list policy, do so to me privately. If you're going to fill up an inbox, fill up mine. That's why I agreed to this position. -Or, discuss these issues amongst yourselves if you'd like, but take these responses off the list now. smile You're all smart people; you've helped me with many a quandary. What, about the above isn't making sense?… smile Do I really need to start unsubing people whom insist on going against these simple requests time and time again?… Is that really the kind of list you all want?… Is that really the kind of mod you want me to be?… I sure hope not. Now please, follow my above simple requests and be mindful of others on this list. Thank you all for reading and have a lovely day!… Sincerely, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn On Mar 18, 2009, at 9:42 PM, Maurice Mines wrote: not me I just wunt at little hasal as posable not my box to be filed up with me two. ie take it off list I have better things to thin read this. On Mar 18, 2009, at 9:37 PM, louie wrote: Me too. On Mar 18, 2009, at 8:21 PM, Ryan Mann wrote: I agree. Just transfer the members to the new list. On Mar 18, 2009, at 8:40 PM, Richie Gardenhire wrote: J G, I would think the first option would be easier, and those that want to unsubscribe can do so. It would be a lot easier to just transfer current members to that new list. Richie Gardenhire, Anchorage, Alaska. On Mar 18, 2009, at 3:56 PM, Joan Alice Maria Gibson, Esquire wrote: Heya, Cara! 'Hopefully it will be fairly transparent to you all and I'll leave it up to you how you'd like me to add you all to the respective lists. I.e. should I simply copy all of our current members over to the new list and simply have people unsub who would rather not be there, or shall I simply create the new group and have people voluntarily join?… Obviously this last option seems best to me, but it's your call…' I would rather voluntarily join the new group than to have to opt out. Thanks for asking! Have an awesome week and weekend! JG On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Cara Quinn caraqu...@caraquinn.com wrote: Hey All; Thanks to all of you who voted!… YOU ROCK!!! :) louie louiem...@wavecable.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Off Topic: Poll on how to make paper money accessible
Okay, this is getting tiresome… Many of you already know what I'm about to say… smile To those who don't, or whom don't care, yet should, please do close this topic immediately!!! Okay, just so you all know, the next person who deliberately initiates an Off-topic thread here with the exception of John's notes on his weather predicament, -will be banned. I don't care if you put OT in the subject line. That does not make this sort of thing okay! Stop posting things you know are not on topic for this list. smile Unless it's absolutely an emergency / life threatening; if it's off topic, DO NOT POST IT HERE!!! Smiles, Cara :)--- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn On Mar 23, 2009, at 6:20 PM, alena.roberts2...@gmail.com wrote: I am taking a poll on my blog on how to make U.S. paper currency accessible to the blind. In September of last year, a judge ordered the treasury to make the money accessible. As far as I know, there has been no plans to actually change our money. Please visit my blog and vote. The poll will be open until the middle of next month. I plan to blog about the results and send them to national blindness organizations and the treasury department. I think that they need to know what the blind community needs before they make any changes. http://blind-gal.blogspot.com Alena --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Just waht is off topic here
Hi Greg, well you answered your own question. :-) Anything Mac- related is certainly on topic. I'm sure sorry you feel like this is 'wrath' but I've gotten *many* requests / complaints from list members whom pay for bandwidth, or have limited time in which to read list mail, but whom would really like to stay on the list for it's informational value. However, a lot of the more 'chatty' messages really get in the way for them. So far these people constitute the majority of whom I'm hearing from, so I need to take that as the general list consensus. This is, afterall, your list. If you all said Cara, I want a chat list, then that's what this would be, and I'd never even consider posting the kind of thing I did earlier. -But that's not what you're saying to me. the list is saying that there is too much traffic that isn't relevant, so that's what I'm trying to address as list moderator. Does this make sense?… So, since this is currently the case, when someone deliberately posts something that they, themselves have even labeled as 'Off Topic,' considering that I've posted very nice / polite requests numerous times, I then feel that a post like my earlier one is warranted. I most certainly don't want to ban anyone nor do I want this list to become a tyrannical place which no one enjoys. :-) what's the fun in that? However, if I keep asking nicely yet people keep feeling that it doesn't apply to them and go on posting notes they're kindly asked not to, then I'm not left with much choice in the matter, yes?… In order for this list to work well together, we need to have at least some respect for eachother and awareness that not everyone has the same access to plentiful internet time, nor do we all have the same sorts of leisurely schedules in which to lazily read vast amounts of email. So since we're all different, we just need to find a good consensus we can come to, that's all… Now, you do raise a really good point in the sense of asking exactly what and what is not on-topic, since I'm planning to edit the Welcome message if needed, so I'll try to be as clear as I can. I certainly don't want there to be any ambiguity and I certainly don't want anyone to feel they need to worry about what they're posting. Anyway, I hope this helps answer the question, and I wish you / yours a lovely evening!… Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn On Mar 24, 2009, at 3:40 PM, Greg Kearney wrote: Just what qualifies as off topic and can there by bring down the wrath of the moderators here. If I had, for example included a post saying that I had worked out a bill scanner under OS X would that be permitted? I think we could stand to grant some slack here so long as it is somewhat related to VO and the Mac and or similar technologies. Greg Kearney 535 S. Jackson St. Casper, Wyoming 82601 307-224-4022 gkear...@gmail.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Just waht is off topic here
smile Are you guys *trying* to make my life difficult? lol! The vote on this already happened last week and everyone was told about it in advance. the results came in and I posted them. So please, can we simply get back to the topics at hand?… I'm posting this to the list now as it seems many people are not understanding a certain aspect of this issue. So I'll explain here… Quite simply, some listers are paying dynamically for bandwidth they use. So, the amount of time it takes them to download email (yes, even including this one) is important. So, if they find that their inbox is then riddled with non-informational posts, no amount of pressing their delete key will get their money back. Not everyone is as fortunate to have basically free-flowing internet access at their disposal. so do we really want to simply not care about those listers whom would really like to stay on the list for its informational value, when all it would take on our parts, to ease this situation is simply to take just a second before sending a message to decide whether it's truly necessary / on-topic for the list?… This is all I'm asking here… some people also have time constraints. Do we want to not care about them as well, when all it would take, on our part, as above, is simply a second or two to decide if something is really of value for others to take time reading?… NOw we obviously don't have to care about these people, afterall, you don't really even know them, and so their concerns or issues aren't going to matter to you in your daily lives, and this is afterall, only a mailing list, but is that the kind of people we really are?… I honestly don't think so. I'm sure this is easy enough for us to manage. This doesn't need to be an issue?… -Yes?… We are only a mailing list, -not an 'us and them' situation. We are one group of people, so it would benefit us in this situation, to think like that. smile It's really simple, and doesn't need to be a huge deal!… Okay, enough from me for now… Please feel free to post to me privately with any more on this if you all would be so kind?… Thanks so much and have a wonderful day!… smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn On Mar 25, 2009, at 8:10 AM, Marshall Scott wrote: Hi Folks, Make it 4 votes. I really don't want another list. I fear that people will have something that just has to be cross posted to every list even vaguely related to a topic. I can use the delete key quite effectively if the subject is not of interest. Marsh On Mar 24, 2009, at 10:11 PM, peter Apgar wrote: Motion has been seconded and the vote is being counted. Three yeas . -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tiffany D Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 7:15 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Just waht is off topic here Agreed. Those of us who use VoiceOver may not be on all the technology lists and if it's something that benefits us all, I think we should hear about it. On 24/03/2009, Greg Kearney gkear...@gmail.com wrote: Just what qualifies as off topic and can there by bring down the wrath of the moderators here. If I had, for example included a post saying that I had worked out a bill scanner under OS X would that be permitted? I think we could stand to grant some slack here so long as it is somewhat related to VO and the Mac and or similar technologies. Greg Kearney 535 S. Jackson St. Casper, Wyoming 82601 307-224-4022 gkear...@gmail.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: VO not reading when composing in Mail
-Morning Everett! Yes, this apparently has something to do with the version of the html rendering engine used in the new Safari 4 beta. I've been able to restore the proper behavior by tabbing out of, and then back into the message body while editing / reading / composing a message. You may need to rinse / repeat! smile HTH and have a lovely day!… Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn On Mar 26, 2009, at 7:42 AM, E.J. Zufelt wrote: Good morning, I believe that this may have been mentioned before on this list, but was not verified or resolved. I am using OS X 10.5.6 and Safari 4beta. If I am composing a message in Mail there are times that VO will stop reading both what I am typing and what I have already typed. I can confirm, by moving away from the edit control and back into it (read all) that what I am typing is showing up. Any thoughts on what could be causing this? Thanks, Everett --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: New Mac man in town!
Hey Tom; Welcome to the list! I'll be including this info in the list welcome message very soon, but for now, here is our latest revision of MacVisionaries etiquette, so to speak. smile If anything doesn't make sense or you just have any questions at all regarding list policy and such, do feel free to email me off-list anytime at: caraqu...@caraquinn.com Have an awesome day! -Congrats on your Mac, and enjoy the list!… Smiles, Cara :) What is Off-topic for MacVisionaries? • Non-Mac-related postings • For Sale postings. We're working on a site area(s) for this, so for the moment, please do keep this sort of thing off the list and email me privately if you have items for sale. • One line responses such as 'thank you' 'I agree' or 'Me too.' • Notes asking for people to follow you on Twitter or be your friend on FaceBook or other social Networking sites. • Notes asking people to contact you on Skype or asking if you can contact someone on Skype. If someone needs assistance, please write them off list or have them write you. We're working on a Skype directory of users willing to help people, so for now, please keep this off the list. • Notes with no answers in them. I.E. If you're really not sure how you can help someone with a question they've asked, then simply don't post. Let someone who does know, or has a good idea help that person. there's no harm in letting a question rest for a while if there's no immediate answer. • Posts asking about list policy, posts asking if your post got through, or test messages. Do not post these sorts of things to the list. Write me off-list instead. What is On-Topic for MacVisionaries? • Anything Mac-related! :) • Any questions from new / experienced users regarding anything at all on their Macs or Apple products. • Any actual answers to such above questions. If you have a guess, try it yourself first. If it works, then by all means, post it as an answer to the list! :) • Any warnings, or things to avoid doing which cause VO to not speak or crash. (or cause problems with a user's access tech) Preferably, it would also be nice to post a work-around for a problem if you know it. • Any news articles, Web Sites, or blog entries which are Mac / Apple related, or that have some 'real' involvement with such. I.E. is there a real honest connection between the two? Is the item you're posting really going to interest or impact a Mac / VO user? • Your own Mac / VO / Apple experiences! Feel free to post anything that you've experienced or are experiencing (good or bad) having to do with your Mac use, (with or without VO) your use of Apple products, or your experiences with Apple or at an Apple store. • Questions or concerns about a future Mac or Apple purchase. Feel free to ask anything you like about Apple / Mac before you buy! :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn On Mar 26, 2009, at 8:03 AM, Tom K wrote: Hi all, I just bought a Mac mini used with a 2.0 processor, 2 gig of ddr3 ram, its running Lepard, and much more. I'm waiting for it to get here so I can have fun trying to learn how to use it. Lets hope I can do it without losing all my hair! Big Grin! Tom K. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: New Mac man in town!
Chris and others. As I mention already in the below list, it's fine to discuss 'any Apple product' -I'm sorry you may have missed that. Is there a way I can better explain this so it will make sense to you?… Also, to the list, just as one last reminder here, I would really suggest you send these sorts of questions / comments to me off the list, as I also already mention. Thanks very much for taking time to read the list of on and off topic items, and I'm looking forward to us simply getting back to a nice flow of conversation at a level we can all live with! :) Have an awesome day!… Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn On Mar 26, 2009, at 8:58 AM, Chris Blouch wrote: Might I suggest broadening the topic to include iPod/iPhone/Apple related stuff as well? Someday I hope we'll have lots to talk about related to the iPhone but in the meantime the iPod is a common topic on the list although not exactly VO related. CB Cara Quinn wrote: Hey Tom; Welcome to the list! I'll be including this info in the list welcome message very soon, but for now, here is our latest revision of MacVisionaries etiquette, so to speak. smile If anything doesn't make sense or you just have any questions at all regarding list policy and such, do feel free to email me off-list anytime at: caraqu...@caraquinn.com Have an awesome day! -Congrats on your Mac, and enjoy the list!… Smiles, Cara :) What is Off-topic for MacVisionaries? • Non-Mac-related postings • For Sale postings. We're working on a site area(s) for this, so for the moment, please do keep this sort of thing off the list and email me privately if you have items for sale. • One line responses such as 'thank you' 'I agree' or 'Me too.' • Notes asking for people to follow you on Twitter or be your friend on FaceBook or other social Networking sites. • Notes asking people to contact you on Skype or asking if you can contact someone on Skype. If someone needs assistance, please write them off list or have them write you. We're working on a Skype directory of users willing to help people, so for now, please keep this off the list. • Notes with no answers in them. I.E. If you're really not sure how you can help someone with a question they've asked, then simply don't post. Let someone who does know, or has a good idea help that person. there's no harm in letting a question rest for a while if there's no immediate answer. • Posts asking about list policy, posts asking if your post got through, or test messages. Do not post these sorts of things to the list. Write me off-list instead. What is On-Topic for MacVisionaries? • Anything Mac-related! :) • Any questions from new / experienced users regarding anything at all on their Macs or Apple products. • Any actual answers to such above questions. If you have a guess, try it yourself first. If it works, then by all means, post it as an answer to the list! :) • Any warnings, or things to avoid doing which cause VO to not speak or crash. (or cause problems with a user's access tech) Preferably, it would also be nice to post a work-around for a problem if you know it. • Any news articles, Web Sites, or blog entries which are Mac / Apple related, or that have some 'real' involvement with such. I.E. is there a real honest connection between the two? Is the item you're posting really going to interest or impact a Mac / VO user? • Your own Mac / VO / Apple experiences! Feel free to post anything that you've experienced or are experiencing (good or bad) having to do with your Mac use, (with or without VO) your use of Apple products, or your experiences with Apple or at an Apple store. • Questions or concerns about a future Mac or Apple purchase. Feel free to ask anything you like about Apple / Mac before you buy! :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn On Mar 26, 2009, at 8:03 AM, Tom K wrote: Hi all, I just bought a Mac mini used with a 2.0 processor, 2 gig of ddr3 ram, its running Lepard, and much more. I'm waiting for it to get here so I can have fun trying to learn how to use it. Lets hope I can do it without losing all my hair! Big Grin! Tom K. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: xcode issue
Hi Michael, you can get the latest version of XCode and XCode tools (one disc image) from the downloads section of: http://developer.apple.com YOu'll need an account, which is free. Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn On Mar 26, 2009, at 10:49 AM, Michael Babcock wrote: hi; where do i get the newest version from? mike On Mar 25, 2009, at 10:37 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: Hi, Get the newest version. Sometimes the project iteself is borken. Thanks, Alex, On 25-Mar-09, at 4:24 PM, Michael Babcock wrote: hi mac users; have any of you seen this issue? When ever i attempt to open Xcode it crashes with out even appearing to open. Any ideas? With best Regards Michael A. Babcock work site: http://gwhosting.net blog: http://gwfans.net twitter: creepyblindy aim: ginnyslove2007 yahoo: blindy_2004 msn: messag...@audioficks.net Michael Babcock GW Hosting, Your Dedicated Home On The Web Phone: +1-888-272-3555, ext 54121 email: michael.babc...@gwhosting.net administrative e-mail: ad...@gwhosting.net url: http://gwhosting.net Michael Babcock GW Hosting, Your Dedicated Home On The Web Phone: +1-888-272-3555, ext 54121 email: michael.babc...@gwhosting.net administrative e-mail: ad...@gwhosting.net url: http://gwhosting.net --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Hard Drive Access.
Hey Scott, they are star-shaped TORX drive screws. And yes, to those curious, I too have replaced ram and HD in one of my white MacBooks. So yes, it can easily be done by a VI / blind person (and a blonde! lol!) if they read well, the instructs and follow them. Check with Apple on the warranty however, I too remember hearing both the HD and memory being user-serviceable, but will also go look this up right now. I'll write back if / when I find out definites. K? Have a rockin' day! Smiles, CQ :) --- Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn On Mar 31, 2009, at 10:14 AM, Scott Howell wrote: Hey Sandi, are they some sort of hex or torque screws? The allen or star shaped screws. I got a set of bits that even has these flathead screw bits with a split in the middle and I have not yet encountered that type of screw being used in a machine or anything for that matter. Yep, all sorts of fun little screws out there to mess with. On Jan 11, 2009, at 3:52 PM, sandi sørensen wrote: I am not sure if you rander the varenty by doing it your self but the mac i did it on was more dead than alive and i had not applecare for it so it had to get some sandicare instead. If anyone need more help Let me know. But the really frustrating part is the screws that holds the harddrive in its holder... the screws are not alone small but you might also need a special tool for it, At least i know i had to get quite creative when i came to that part. /sandi On Mar 31, 2009, at 8:39 AM, Dave Wright wrote: Just out of curiosity, do you void any warranties by installing a new drive or upgrading ram? Best Regards: Dave Wright Work Phone: 651-636-5184 X803 Email: dwri...@gmail.com WebPage: http://www.knfbreader.com - Original Message - From: Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 9:56 AM Subject: Re: Hard Drive Access. I found these instructions which might be helpful: http://www.macinstruct.com/node/130 The drive is a standard 2.5 SATA drive. Here are a few starting at $48 for an 80GB up to about $100 for a 500GB. http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/hard-drives/2.5-Notebook/ CB George Zaynoun wrote: Hi folks! I wonder if the hard drive on the MacBook 13INCH white is user accessible in case of upgrade and if it is a standard laptop hard drive like on the toshiba pc for example, if yes how to access it? Thanks. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: strange iTunes problem
Jessi, are the tracks you're playing, videos?… I ask, as you may need to close the video window when this happens. Once you start playing a video, and pause it, you can bring up a context menu on it and there should be an option to 'close video window.' If this is the issue, closing this window will allow you to select another track to play. HTH and have a great day!… Smiles, Cara :) --- Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn On Mar 31, 2009, at 1:26 AM, Jessi Rathwell wrote: hey guys just noticed a strange problem with iTunes 8.1. I typed an artist into the search box and was looking through the songs table, pressing return on what I wanted to hear like normal. sometimes it doesn't switch songs though. like I'll be listening to one and have another one selected, but when I press return on it it doesn't switch. it doesn't happen all the time, just sometimes. it's weird. I also find it a bit slow when I'm just skipping quickly through my library. it seems to be busy more frequently than past versions. other than those two things, I'm liking it so far! currently listening to some John Legend. Jessi --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: IBook Adapter was Re: Hard Drive Access.
Alex, I don't know about an adapter, but you can definitely get a firewire enclosure for your MB drive. I have one and it works wonderfully!… Of course I'm not mounting it inside something else, but the enclosure is great!… You can Google this, and I'll post the brand I have. (will need to ask my roomie to look at it. -apologies…) Talk with you soon!… Smiles, Cara :) --- Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn On Mar 31, 2009, at 11:15 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: Hi, All, I need to upgrade the disk in my Macbook possibly and i need to know what i can do with my old one. I am debating putting it in my Mum's IBook that runs Leopard. This will only work if there is a small ata to sata converter. Does anyone know if this possible? Secondly, can I get a FW enclosure for a Macbook drive? That way I can mount it inside my G3 using the internal FW port. Thanks, Alex, On 11-Jan-09, at 8:08 PM, sandi sørensen wrote: *blushes all the way to her blonde mane... i got em out yes but ... it was ... hard... Now of course... they are not set so tight... just in case i have too do the same again:) /sandi:) On Mar 31, 2009, at 2:40 PM, Scott Howell wrote: Thanks Cara, I suspected that is what they were. I'm amazed Sandi got them out with a knife. I guess this means she's really Sandi McGiver. :) On Mar 31, 2009, at 2:11 PM, Cara Quinn wrote: Hey Scott, they are star-shaped TORX drive screws. And yes, to those curious, I too have replaced ram and HD in one of my white MacBooks. So yes, it can easily be done by a VI / blind person (and a blonde! lol!) if they read well, the instructs and follow them. Check with Apple on the warranty however, I too remember hearing both the HD and memory being user-serviceable, but will also go look this up right now. I'll write back if / when I find out definites. K? Have a rockin' day! Smiles, CQ :) --- Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
OpenFire 4.3.1 and Jabber / IChat
Hey All, -Not the way I want to top off a lovely Friday eve, but I hadn't been able to start OpenFire to log into my local Jabber server with IChat. So I reinstalled OF 4.3.1 (an old ver, I know) and reconfiged it. All was fine until I came to the screen to add server plugins. the IM Gateway plugin doesn't seem to show up when I browse all available plugins. ick! So I downloaded it manually, and copied it into my usr/local/ OpenFire/plugins folder but still no luck. So I then tried uploading it through the server console itself. I located the file and uploaded just fine, but still no luck. The plugin doesn't show as being installed. really ickie! bleh!… So I verified that the server had actually done something with the jar file in the plugins folder and it had. So I then restarted the server. Still, bloody no luck! -Still showed as having no installed plugins! aaarrrggg! What in the am I doing wrong?… I've since uninstalled ver 4.3.1 and looked for the latest ver. However, on the igniterealtime site, I can't seem to locate the proper download. The links to choose one's OS aren't speaking for me. I'm using the latest beta (Safari 4) and all three links are identical. yuck! What are peeps doing for Jabber functionality in IChat at the moment?… This is being a royal PIMa!… Anyway, on the up side of things, if anyone would like it, or would like to host it, I've created a really simple uninstall shell script for OpenFire 4.3.1 -which I'm happy to share. Just write me off-list and I'm happy to send it along!… Thanks so much. Any help would sure be greatly appreciated!… Smiles, Cara :) --- Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: iTunes 8.1.1 available
This version is MUCH more responsive for me, so hopefully you'll like it! It's also possible (as Mark says) to again, tab between controls! OMG! this is a time saving relief! feeew! Smiles, Cara :) --- Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn On Apr 6, 2009, at 2:00 PM, Jessi Rathwell wrote: yay!!! I hope this release is a bit more responsive, too! I found 8.1 a bit sluggish when quickly skipping through my library. it would often become busy and would take a few seconds to become ready again. I cant wait to hit up software update!!! On 6-Apr-09, at 1:39 PM, Mark Baxter wrote: Hope no more; instead, believe! The tab key now works in the new release\e. You want it. Do software updates now. Resistance is just plain foolish. Mark BurningHawk Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com My home page: http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
List topic reminders (revision) Please read!…
Hey All, happy THU / FRI! I've made a few slight revisions to the on / off topic list for MacVisionaries, so I thought I'd post it here for your reading pleasure. smile Please do take just a minute or two to read through this as I believe a couple of points needed clarifying. My apologies for being a bit incommunicado for the last few days, but I've been extremely busy. I'll plan on updating the MacVisionaries GoogleGroups site by the weekend and when I do I'll let you all know. Thanks for reading the below and as usual, if you have any questions, do feel free to write me at: caraqu...@caraquinn.com Have a great day / night, wherever you may be!… Smiles, Cara :) What is Off-topic for MacVisionaries? • Non-Mac-related postings • For Sale postings. We're working on a site area(s) for this, so for the moment, please do keep this sort of thing off the list and email me privately if you have items for sale. • One line responses such as 'thank you' 'I agree' or 'Me too.' • Notes asking for people to follow you on Twitter or be your friend on FaceBook or other social Networking sites. Including your Twitter / Facebook etc info in your signatures is fine and even encouraged. • Notes asking people to contact you on Skype or asking if you can contact someone on Skype. If someone needs assistance, please write them off list or have them write you. We're working on a Skype directory of users willing to help people, so for now, please keep this off the list. As in the above, do feel free, however, to include your Skype / chat info in your signature files if you so choose. • Notes with no answers in them. I.E. If you're really not sure how you can help someone with a question they've asked, then simply don't post. Let someone who does know, or has a good idea help that person. there's no harm in letting a question rest for a while if there's no immediate answer. • Posts asking about list policy, posts asking if your post got through, or test messages. Do not post these sorts of things to the list. Write me off-list instead. What is On-Topic for MacVisionaries? • Anything Mac-related! :) • Any questions from new / experienced users regarding anything at all on their Macs or Apple products. • Any actual answers to such above questions. If you have a guess, try it yourself first. If it works, then by all means, post it as an answer to the list! :) • Any warnings, or things to avoid doing which cause VO to not speak or crash. (or cause problems with a user's access tech) Preferably, it would also be nice to post a work-around for a problem if you know it. • Any news articles, Web Sites, or blog entries which are Mac / Apple related, or that have some 'real' involvement with such. I.E. is there a real honest connection between the two? Is the item you're posting really going to interest or impact a Mac / VO user? • Your own Mac / VO / Apple experiences! Feel free to post anything that you've experienced or are experiencing (good or bad) having to do with your Mac use, (with or without VO) your use of Apple products, or your experiences with Apple or at an Apple store. • Questions or concerns about a future Mac or Apple purchase. Feel free to ask anything you like about Apple / Mac before you buy! :) --- Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Reclaiming unallocated space on an HD
Barry, you got it spot on! Thanks very much for the info. I was able to shrink the second partition with VO by simply editing the size in the edit field. However, I wasn't aware that the placement restrictions of the partitions had an effect on the size of each one. I.E. I wasn't sure if Disc Utility was able to dynamically reallocate empty space. So your note did clear this up for me. Incidentally, I simply deleted the second partition as I have a backup, and resized the first; then lastly, recreated the second out of the remaining space on the drive. -Worked like a charm! You rock! smile So now all of my drive space is happy and accounted for! lol! Thanks again and I wish you / yours a lovely weekend!… Smiles, Cara :) --- Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn On Apr 10, 2009, at 8:42 PM, Barry Hadder wrote: Hi Cara, If I understand you correctly, you are trying to decrease the second partition and increase the first. Sorry if I didn't get that right, but for now I'll just go from hear. In order to do what I think you are trying, you would have to shrink the second by moving it over and I don't think you can't do that with the Disk Utility. When you are shrinking it's size, you are shrinking it in place. You are changing the location of it's end-point. So when you try to increase the first, there is nowhere for it to go because the second one is still there even though it is smaller. I think You will have to delete the second, increase the first, and then create another second. Partitioning is very visual and even if you can't see the graphical representation, you still have to have a mental picture of what it looks like... So picture from left to right: first, second. When you shrink the second, it shrinks from right to left. You might understand this all ready and I may have totally misunderstood what you were talking about, but this sounds like to me what's going on. Hope that helped. - Original Message - From: Cara Quinn caraqu...@caraquinn.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 8:03 PM Subject: Reclaiming unallocated space on an HD Hey All, Happy Friday to you!… I'm wondering if there's an accessible way to reclaim unallocated HD space? I.E. I currently have three partitions on my internal HD, and I've resized one to free up 5 gb of space that I'd like added to another partition. I can do the first resize to decrease one of the partitions just fine with VO. However, when I try to resize the other partition to make it larger, in the exact amount of 5 gb, Disc Util won't let me. It goes through the steps as if it's doing the operation, and does rewrite the partition table, however the size simply doesn't change. eek! I've also tried using amounts less than 5 gb but regardless of the amount I enter, it still seems to flip right back to the size before I edited it. Might anyone have any ideas why this is happening, or what I can do to deal with this?… As it is, I now basically have 5 gb of unallocated space on my HD that I can't seem to access. aaarrrggg! If it makes any diff, I'm doing the resizing from Disc Util on my startup disc, and the first resize made the non-startup partition smaller. (which worked fine) However, as I've been mentioning, I can't seem to increase the size of the startup partition which I'm currently running on. I'm wondering if this is an issue?… I haven't yet tried booting into the second partition and resizing the first from there, but, is this something people think might be worth trying?… -Or is there something else happening here I'm not aware of?… thanks so much for taking time to read this, and any suggestions would sure be appreciated!… Have a wonderful evening / holiday weekend for those whom celebrate!… Smiles, Cara :) --- Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
One line posts - Please read…
Hey All, hope yer having a terrific weekend! I just wanted to send along a quick reminder for you all to please be aware of sending one-line posts / responses to the list… I.E. This is not chat. This is an email list. smile If you have a short response, please do take care to make it worth people's while to read. Rather than sending along a one word or one line email message, either refrain from sending your note, or put just a bit more useful info into it to assist the reader with not only context, but urls etc when appropriate. Thanks so much for taking time to read this and do have a lovely rest of your weekend!… Smiles, Cara :) --- Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Reclaiming unallocated space on an HD
Alex, I need to correct you on your below note. You can definitely safely resize a startup partition while running on it using Disc Utility. Simply select the appropriate partition by clicking on it. (I used my MacBook's track pad button) and, provided that there is adequate space on your drive, you can simply type the desired size in the 'size' edit field. -Click apply; confirm and you're done!… -Simple as that. Obviously, if you try to make your startup disc smaller than it can actually be while still maintaining all of your software, you'll run into issues. smile So working with partitions should definitely be done with care, but it certainly is doable with Disc Util live, and on the fly as it were. smile Thanks for your note and have a great rest of your weekend!… Smiles, Cara :) --- Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn On Apr 11, 2009, at 12:17 AM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: Hi, Use IPartition. Or, if you are adventurous or have a sighted person around, GParted Live CD. However, I'd use IPartition which is $50. It is much safer because we are sure it does the job. I don't know how VO Friendly it is, but when you shrink or expand a start-up disk, you can't because the disk is in use. If you did Target Disk Mode from another Mac and did it, it would let you, but it would make the partition unusable for startup. I messed up many a disk that way. Thanks, Alex, On 10-Apr-09, at 6:03 PM, Cara Quinn wrote: Hey All, Happy Friday to you!… I'm wondering if there's an accessible way to reclaim unallocated HD space? I.E. I currently have three partitions on my internal HD, and I've resized one to free up 5 gb of space that I'd like added to another partition. I can do the first resize to decrease one of the partitions just fine with VO. However, when I try to resize the other partition to make it larger, in the exact amount of 5 gb, Disc Util won't let me. It goes through the steps as if it's doing the operation, and does rewrite the partition table, however the size simply doesn't change. eek! I've also tried using amounts less than 5 gb but regardless of the amount I enter, it still seems to flip right back to the size before I edited it. Might anyone have any ideas why this is happening, or what I can do to deal with this?… As it is, I now basically have 5 gb of unallocated space on my HD that I can't seem to access. aaarrrggg! If it makes any diff, I'm doing the resizing from Disc Util on my startup disc, and the first resize made the non-startup partition smaller. (which worked fine) However, as I've been mentioning, I can't seem to increase the size of the startup partition which I'm currently running on. I'm wondering if this is an issue?… I haven't yet tried booting into the second partition and resizing the first from there, but, is this something people think might be worth trying?… -Or is there something else happening here I'm not aware of?… thanks so much for taking time to read this, and any suggestions would sure be appreciated!… Have a wonderful evening / holiday weekend for those whom celebrate!… Smiles, Cara :) --- Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: iTunes was killed for cause
Jude, perhaps I've missed it; is there a question here for the list? I've personally never heard of ITunes / Apple doing this sort of thing. Were you given a reason and have you followed this up with Apple? ITunes does have a support page and there is also an old invention called the telephone. *warm smile* Sorry this happened and best of luck to you!… Smiles, Cara :) --- Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn On May 24, 2009, at 3:22 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote: The iTunes store decided to disable my id for security reasons. No process exists on apple's website to resolve this problem that I can find. For that reason I have disabled iTunes on this machine and will not reinstall it or allow it to be reinstalled for very long. With the ID that was disabled went my podcasts subscriptions and those will not be easily reconstructed. Since Apple didn't put up anything on its website for how to resolve security problems and since the automated system and humans are also clueless this is no less than Apple deserves. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: mac protection plan
Jude, thanks for your note, however, in future, might you / others flesh these sorts of notes out a bit with more relevant details / links and such? This looks like it's meant as a response to something, but the something isn't clear! smile Just as an FYI, it seems as if you're sort of yelling through your keyboard a bit, right now. I know you're frustrated, that's obvious, but perhaps taking a few minutes to really arrange your thoughts before posting to the list would be really beneficial for others to read. This sounds like really good info you have, and I'm betting it can really be of use to some here. Thanks so much and have an awesome day!… Smiles, Cara :) --- Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn On May 24, 2009, at 3:29 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote: Take it off line and keep it in a closet until snow leopard has been released and then if I have enough money buy snow leopard and install it. Why? Because the hacker community is specifically targeting leopard exploiting two critical vulnerabilities that are widely embedded in Leopard and it will take Apple until at least June 2010 to write fixes necessary to remove these vulnerabilities. If no more get created and no more get discovered by the malware folks between now and then, we may have a secure operating system to buy at that time. Strange how such a short word like if is so important. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: mac protection plan
Hey Josh, thanks for the note! Yes; I completely agree. I'm betting Jude has some very good sources, so am looking forward to those links when he posts. this sort of thing is obviously very important to the Mac community as you've said… Smiles, Cara :) --- Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn On May 24, 2009, at 4:02 PM, Josh de Lioncourt wrote: No computer is completely invulnerable to attacks. The Mac OS is far safer than Windows. Saying that your best bet is to take a machine offline to protect it is like saying that you're not going to drive your car until accidents are eliminated. It's frankly ridiculous. I haven't read anything on any news sources, Mac or otherwise, that any hackers are targeting Macs specifically. There were a couple of Trojans earlier in the year if you downloaded and installed pirated copies of iWork or Adobe CS4, and frankly if you're pirating software, you deserve whatever's coming to you. You break the law, you take your chances. More recently, there was notification from a security firm about a vulnerability in Java, which can potentially be exploited on Macs, (and other systems that run Java applets on the web), but again, this is a known problem with no known malicious uses in the wild. Is it possible that you're just trying to get a rise out of us? Sure looks that way. Links to where you are getting this, almost certainly erroneous, information would be interesting. You can bet, just like the trojans and Java flaws, such a story would be all over the Mac news sites. I see not a one. Josh de Lioncourt …my other mail provider is an owl… Twitter: http://twitter.com/Lioncourt Music: http://stage19music.com Mac-cessibility: http://www.Lioncourt.com Blog: http://lioncourtsmusings.blogspot.com GoodReads: http://goodreads.com/Lioncourt On May 24, 2009, at 3:29 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote: Take it off line and keep it in a closet until snow leopard has been released and then if I have enough money buy snow leopard and install it. Why? Because the hacker community is specifically targeting leopard exploiting two critical vulnerabilities that are widely embedded in Leopard and it will take Apple until at least June 2010 to write fixes necessary to remove these vulnerabilities. If no more get created and no more get discovered by the malware folks between now and then, we may have a secure operating system to buy at that time. Strange how such a short word like if is so important. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
IMPORTANT! Please read - List Guidelines Update
hey All, first off, let me simply apologize for my seeming absence over the past few weeks; Not only do I have a very busy life outside of this list, smile but have also had some seriously annoying internet issues over the past two weeks or so as well… So I do hope you'll forgive the fact that some list processes are taking, and have taken, a bit longer to complete than expected. We appreciate your patience! smile Anyway, I've adapted the list guidelines and felt it was appropriate to post them again now. Here they are, and do have a lovely rest of your weekend!… Smiles, Cara :) What is Off-topic for MacVisionaries? • Non-Mac-related postings • For Sale postings. We're working on a site area(s) for this, so for the moment, please do keep this sort of thing off the list and email me privately if you have items for sale. • One line responses such as 'thank you' 'I agree' or 'Me too.' This also includes simply chiming in to second someone else. Unless you have some info which is something you really feel others would need to, or would very much like to read, a contribution of silence is a good one. • Ranting / 'yelling with your keyboard' If you have an issue you'd like to make known that bothers you, please do take the time before posting to arrange your thoughts into a coherent, useful message for others to read, which (when possible) contains links / valid info for others to locate if they wish • Notes asking for people to follow you on Twitter or be your friend on FaceBook or other social Networking sites. Including your Twitter / Facebook etc info in your signatures is fine and even encouraged. • Notes asking people to contact you on Skype or asking if you can contact someone on Skype. If someone needs assistance, please write them off list or have them write you. We're working on a Skype directory of users willing to help people, so for now, please keep this off the list. As in the above, do feel free, however, to include your Skype / chat info in your signature files if you so choose. • Notes with no answers in them. I.E. If you're really not sure how you can help someone with a question they've asked, then simply don't post. Let someone who does know, or has a good idea help that person. there's no harm in letting a question rest for a while if there's no immediate answer. • Posts asking about list policy, posts asking if your post got through, or test messages. Do not post these sorts of things to the list. Write me off-list instead. What is On-Topic for MacVisionaries? • Anything Mac-related! :) • Any questions from new / experienced users regarding anything at all on their Macs or Apple products. • Any actual answers to such above questions. If you have a guess, try it yourself first. If it works, then by all means, post it as an answer to the list! :) • Any warnings, or things to avoid doing which cause VO to not speak or crash. (or cause problems with a user's access tech) Preferably, it would also be nice to post a work-around for a problem if you know it. • Any news articles, Web Sites, or blog entries which are Mac / Apple related, or that have some 'real' involvement with such. I.E. is there a real honest connection between the two? Is the item you're posting really going to interest or impact a Mac / VO user? • Your own Mac / VO / Apple experiences! Feel free to post anything that you've experienced or are experiencing (good or bad) having to do with your Mac use, (with or without VO) your use of Apple products, or your experiences with Apple or at an Apple store. • Questions or concerns about a future Mac or Apple purchase. Feel free to ask anything you like about Apple / Mac before you buy! :) --- Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: iTunes was killed for cause
Alex, still not following you. Can you direct me to his postings you're talking about? Also, are you saying, that perhaps if I said There's a security hole in Leopard that Apple would somehow now see fit to terminate my ITunes account?… Respectfully, you can see how over the top this sounds… smile So since I'm obviously not quite following you here, can you clarify this? Sorry this is unclear to me, but this does sound like something we all should probably be aware of, if this is the case… thanks so much and do have an awesome evening!… Smiles, Cara :) --- Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn On May 24, 2009, at 6:03 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: Hi, Apple has stong security about who post about exploits. If word that the original poster gets to Apple it would be reason enough to disable an account. Just my thoughts. Thanks, Alex, On 24-May-09, at 4:16 PM, Cara Quinn wrote: alex, please explain the below if you would? I'm not following you here… Thanks so much and do have a lovely day!… Smiles, Cara :) --- Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn On May 24, 2009, at 4:08 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: Hi, It may be related to your Leopard postings. Thanks, Alex, On 24-May-09, at 3:30 PM, chantel cuddemi wrote: Oh that can't be good at all. On May 24, 2009, at 6:22 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote: The iTunes store decided to disable my id for security reasons. No process exists on apple's website to resolve this problem that I can find. For that reason I have disabled iTunes on this machine and will not reinstall it or allow it to be reinstalled for very long. With the ID that was disabled went my podcasts subscriptions and those will not be easily reconstructed. Since Apple didn't put up anything on its website for how to resolve security problems and since the automated system and humans are also clueless this is no less than Apple deserves. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Clarification of legal agreements related to VoiceOver
Alex, yes, this *might* be useful however, quite honestly, (meaning
no disrespect as well) No one cares whether you or anyone else has
discussed whatever with whomever, unless you share something
conclusive about it. Know what I mean?…
If I posted something saying I'd discussed concepts of cross-
platform audio development with a colleague today, and then simply
left it at that, not giving out any relevant details or info, then
what's the point.
No one cares about what was said, partially because I never told
them anything that was discussed. See what I'm saying here?…
There's just no point to this sort of post. -Not when it comes to
this type of mailing list situation…
So, please, to you and others, simply refrain from doing this
anymore, unless it's a matter of life and death! smile Otherwise,
don't post this sort of thing again!… smile
Hope this is clear now and thanks for your note.
Have a terrific evening and talk witcha soon!…
Smiles,
Cara :)
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On May 27, 2009, at 6:32 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:
Hi,
Cara,
Meaning no disrespect. This is useful so that we don't all hale Apple
with E-mails and the like and they refuse us help.
Regards,
Alex,
On 27-May-09, at 6:28 PM, Cara Quinn wrote:
Alex, and All, please only post notes with relevant information in
them. Unless we can share some actual information here that others
can benefit from, then I'd ask that we consider not posting until we
can?…
Now, I'm a bit behind on email, so if others have done this as
well, then please take this note for what it's worth. I'm not
singling out Alex here.
yes, the below note has no conclusive info in it, but Alex is not
the only poster who's done this.
So, please, people, simply stop this sort of thing immediately. K?…
I don't want to {insert big scary threat here} so don't make me be
ridiculous and threatening! lol!
this is just manners, so show some! smile
Have an awesome evening and talk witch'all soon!…
Smiles,
Cara :)
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On May 27, 2009, at 5:47 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:
Hi,
I am discussing this with Apple at the momment to avoid legal
reprocutions.
Regards,
Alex,
On 27-May-09, at 10:34 AM, A-Pro Studio wrote:
Hi,
First of all, I am not posting this to crash the party for
everyone - including myself, who would like their own localization
of VoiceOver. But since none of us use to read all legal agreements
included with all software we use, and since we might get into
trouble by breaking such agreements, I would like to point those
who are interested to the MacOSX legal agreements, especially the
following paragraph:
The Mac OS X software license agreement does not allow
modifications or derivative works to be made.
Section 2F of current Leopard SLA:
F. Except as and only to the extent permitted by applicable
licensing terms governing use of the Open-Sourced Components, or by
applicable law, you may not copy, decompile, reverse engineer,
disassemble, modify, or create derivative works of the Apple
Software or any part thereof.
Since VoiceOver Utility and other parts of VoiceOver is not Open
Source, and people who might create, use and publish such
localization versions of VoiceOver Utility will break the agreement
and by this also break the law, this is an issue one should be
aware of.
For your info, and to avoid fellow listers to get in trouble.
Have a wonderful day!
John André
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Re: Clarification of legal agreements related to VoiceOver
alex, this is your last warning. This is also a general public
warning…
I'm telling you now, DO NOT CONTINUE TO POST THIS TYPE OF NOTE HERE!…
I'll explain this one last time, and from then on, please email me
privately if you need clarification, and I'll be happy to chat off-list.
You make absolutely no explanation in your note, as to what 'it'
is, that is 'in the works' So in essence, this note contains no info
whatsoever.
You give no time frame, no information as to what you're even
speaking about, no reference to whom exactly your speaking to, nor any
implications that said meetings would have for us as the Mac
community. So therefore, your below note is simply used bandwidth
which contributes nothing relevant to this discussion, which,
incidentally, itself, seems to also be veering off-topic…
From what I've seen, no one has indicated a request to you to ask
if you're in contact with Apple for some reason. So please simply end
this now!…
For me to put you on moderated status again is simply more work for
me, so since I've already tried that, if you post in the below manner
again, (and this also goes for others here as well) you'll be asked
nicely, with the proper respect, to leave the list. If you do not,
you'll be banned.
My apologies for this route, but if this is what it takes to get
this message across, (and this does seem to be the only thing some
seem to respond to) then this is simply what I'll do. That's that…
Anyway, I do hope you'll take this note to heart, and put a bit
more thought into future posts, as you have some valid and very good
contributions to offer this community. -And, as always, if you have
any doubts at all as to appropriate content, just write me off-list at:
caraqu...@caraquinn.com
And I'm happy to casually chat back / forth about it so as not to
clutter the list.
So, in that vein, my apologies to our more conscientious posters.
Have an awesome evening All, and chat witcha soon!…
Smiles,
Cara :)
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On May 27, 2009, at 7:09 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:
Hi,
I just wanted to let you know that it is in the works.
Sit tight. We will be discussing further over the past few weeks.
Regards,
Alex,
On 27-May-09, at 6:56 PM, Cara Quinn wrote:
Alex, yes, this *might* be useful however, quite honestly,
(meaning no disrespect as well) No one cares whether you or anyone
else has discussed whatever with whomever, unless you share
something conclusive about it. Know what I mean?…
If I posted something saying I'd discussed concepts of cross-
platform audio development with a colleague today, and then simply
left it at that, not giving out any relevant details or info, then
what's the point.
No one cares about what was said, partially because I never told
them anything that was discussed. See what I'm saying here?…
There's just no point to this sort of post. -Not when it comes to
this type of mailing list situation…
So, please, to you and others, simply refrain from doing this
anymore, unless it's a matter of life and death! smile Otherwise,
don't post this sort of thing again!… smile
Hope this is clear now and thanks for your note.
Have a terrific evening and talk witcha soon!…
Smiles,
Cara :)
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On May 27, 2009, at 6:32 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:
Hi,
Cara,
Meaning no disrespect. This is useful so that we don't all hale
Apple with E-mails and the like and they refuse us help.
Regards,
Alex,
On 27-May-09, at 6:28 PM, Cara Quinn wrote:
Alex, and All, please only post notes with relevant information
in them. Unless we can share some actual information here that
others can benefit from, then I'd ask that we consider not posting
until we can?…
Now, I'm a bit behind on email, so if others have done this as
well, then please take this note for what it's worth. I'm not
singling out Alex here.
yes, the below note has no conclusive info in it, but Alex is not
the only poster who's done this.
So, please, people, simply stop this sort of thing immediately. K?…
I don't want to {insert big scary threat here} so don't make me
be ridiculous and threatening! lol!
this is just manners, so show some! smile
Have an awesome evening and talk witch'all soon!…
Smiles,
Cara :)
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On May 27, 2009, at 5:47 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:
Hi,
I am discussing this with Apple at the momment to avoid legal
reprocutions.
Regards,
Alex,
On 27-May-09, at 10:34 AM, A-Pro Studio wrote:
Hi,
First of all, I am
Re: very nice experience at University Village Apple Store in Seattle Washington
hey Ben, thanks so much for sharing! this is exactly the kind of thing I personally love to hear. I'm glad that Apple is really stepping this great level of service up even further. For someone with or without a disability to go into a store and really be shown not only equal treatment / a good experience but a really enjoyable one is a terrific thing in retail!… This sets Apple apart in my opinion, and is a paradigm that other retailers can really benefit from looking at… Kudos to them, and so glad you had such a cool experience there!… Thanks again for sharing and have a great night!… Smiles, Cara :) --- Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn On May 27, 2009, at 10:37 PM, Ben King wrote: Dear Mac Friends, I am writing you to let you know about an experience I had today at the University Village Apple Store in Seattle Washington. The person that I spoke to was very nice and he asked me what I would like to see improved in regards to Voiceover. I told him that Fire Fox would be nice with Voiceover support as well as maybe an accessible I Phone. Anyway, it was extremely nice for me to go into an Apple Store and play with main stream technology. I love Voiceover as well as the Mac. I hope you all have a nice evening. Blessings, Ben King --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: very nice experience at University Village Apple Store in Seattle Washington
Sean, I'd be happy to entertain your below points, but firstly, forgive me, but this honestly sounds like the very same rhetoric that I hear all too often in the blind community which simply is a negative response to touch screens?… Yes?… Is this really what your saying with the below, or are you genuinely not understanding how current touch screen tech is already used in the VI / blind community… Touch screen devices are already used by the visually impaired on a daily basis… On the point of accessible apps, I'm also not sure what your getting at here; Obviously, OSX / VO is already functioning just fine with a wide range of applications and as Apple would most assuredly extend the same paradigm to the IPhone, the same would logically hold true… Yes there would probably be apps which weren't accessible, as there are on the Mac, Windows, and various current Smart Phones / PDAs. However, there's every reason to believe that if there were an accessible IPhone screen access solution by Apple, that it's integration alone, would allow substantial access out of the box as it were. I'm not clear on why you'd suggest that an accessible IPhone isn't really an IPhone. What do you mean here?… smile Is a computer not 'really' a computer simply because it may run an accessible interface solution?… This type of logic doesn't make sense to me, but I'd certainly be interested in hearing where you're coming from on it, if you don't mind… Sure, the user experience would be different from a sighted user, but people customize their user experience very often, anyway. So this seems kind of moot to me… Anyway, I hope I've understood you correctly here, and that the above makes sense. :) Have a great day and talk with ya soon!… Smiles, Cara :) --- Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn On May 28, 2009, at 10:48 AM, Sean Tikkun wrote: Can folks on this board help me out here? I don't see the point of an accessible iPhone. The fluid dynamic of screen touch technology combined with GUI interface seems like it is just a counter accessible design form the get go. Once you make the thing accessible it is no longer an iPhone. I may not be far enough outside the box, but even if the iPhone were made accessible then all of the apps would still not be. It is the same issue with Firefox. If Firefox wanted to be accessible, they would be! From my understanding the mark-up is there. The code for using it is free to the programmers and developers... They just don't care to do it. Shouldn't we be e-mail spamming Firefox to get with the program? Sean Richards Tikkun Apple Distinghuished Educator class of 2007 jaq...@mac.com ADE_Logo_graysingle.png On May 28, 2009, at 5:20 AM, Vicki Manley wrote: Hi, That would be so ace if they brought out an accessible i phone What a really great suggestion!!! Best wishes, Vicki. On 28 May 2009, at 06:37, Ben King wrote: Dear Mac Friends, I am writing you to let you know about an experience I had today at the University Village Apple Store in Seattle Washington. The person that I spoke to was very nice and he asked me what I would like to see improved in regards to Voiceover. I told him that Fire Fox would be nice with Voiceover support as well as maybe an accessible I Phone. Anyway, it was extremely nice for me to go into an Apple Store and play with main stream technology. I love Voiceover as well as the Mac. I hope you all have a nice evening. Blessings, Ben King --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~--- --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: unsubscribe
Hi Jeffrey, just unsubscribed you. Sorry the captcha is getting in the way; for future reference, check out: http://www.solona.net It's a site that helps VI / blind people with captchas. Feel free to join back up with us anytime, and have a great evening!… Smiles, Cara :) --- Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn On Jun 1, 2009, at 7:59 AM, jeffrey greene wrote: Hello moderator, I wish to unsubscribe from this list. I can't get past the captia on googlegroups. Can you unsubscribe me? Thanks Jeff Greene -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
New IPhone 3GS list regarding accessibility
Hello All; I've just started a list called VIPhone, (Visually Impaired - IPhone) on GoogleGroups to discuss the new Apple IPhone 3GS. the url is: http://groups.google.com/group/VIPhone Please feel free to share this url anywhere you like, to anyone you feel might want to discuss this sort of thing. The list is both for those of us whom are early-adopters, as well as for anyone whom may have questions / political views etc on the new IPhone. As far as list etiquette goes, as far as I'm concerned, the list will reflect the character of its members. smile -You want flame wars, fine, have them! -Want a friendly, welcoming, well-informed list, then wonderful! You've got that! You'll have the list you create! If there's something drastic, and I need to step in as mod, then be assured, I will; other than that, -Be the list you want… Enjoy and let's explore the IPhone together!… Smiles, Cara :) --- Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: New IPhone 3GS list regarding accessibility
Simon, I'll respond to you below. On Jun 12, 2009, at 3:26 PM, Simon Cavendish wrote: Why do we have to have a separate list for every single thing that happens regarding voiceover and such like? Perhaps I'm not getting your tone right here, but Do we really need to be this touchy about every little thing? If you must know, I created that list not to shunt off discussions from here, but just because I wanted to! :) Neither you, nor anyone else here need join if you don't wish. Someone did ask me about the possibility of excess traffic over the IPhone, and if I thought another list was necessary, and I said no. - And I still don't… If you'd like to join the new list, then by all means, go right ahead. However, I will say that if there are a number of people who write me, frustrated with the traffic level concerning the IPhone if the list does get out of hand, then I most certainly will suggest that topics be moved there… Are we going to have a separate list for Ipod too? Your sarcasm aside, no, I wasn't planning on doing that; however, with all due respect, I'll set up whatever lists I choose to, and you're welcome to do the same, yes?… It just fragments things and makes it impossible to follow things. But if that's what people want, that's fine with me. I'd agree that too many lists on similar topics can fragment things but it's also good to have choices. If this is in fact, fine with you, then why, might I ask are you so upset?… :) Has there been a request for a separate list for IPhone? (See above) Simon, and All, please know that as list mod, I will do whatever is the best fit for this list as a whole. This, however, might rub some the wrong way. -But I'll do what's necessary to help the list run smoothly for all of us, or as many as possible, not just a few of us. Thanks for your note and have a nice weekend!… Sincerely, Cara :) Best wishes Simon On 12 Jun 2009, at 21:47, Cara Quinn wrote: Hello All; I've just started a list called VIPhone, (Visually Impaired - IPhone) on GoogleGroups to discuss the new Apple IPhone 3GS. the url is: http://groups.google.com/group/VIPhone Please feel free to share this url anywhere you like, to anyone you feel might want to discuss this sort of thing. The list is both for those of us whom are early-adopters, as well as for anyone whom may have questions / political views etc on the new IPhone. As far as list etiquette goes, as far as I'm concerned, the list will reflect the character of its members. smile -You want flame wars, fine, have them! -Want a friendly, welcoming, well-informed list, then wonderful! You've got that! You'll have the list you create! If there's something drastic, and I need to step in as mod, then be assured, I will; other than that, -Be the list you want… Enjoy and let's explore the IPhone together!… Smiles, Cara :) --- Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: New IPhone 3GS list regarding accessibility
Hi Jane, the link for VIPhone is: http://groups.google.com/group/VIPhone See you there!… Smiles, Cara :) --- Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn On Jun 13, 2009, at 8:59 AM, Jane Jordan (GMail) wrote: What is the email link to subscribe to the iphone list, please? :) Thanks, Jane --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Recognizing a heading which is also a link
Jessi, before we go calling people silly, why don't we try this for ourselves?… For the record, Alex is right. When you tab, when Safari is set correctly, your focus will stop on links even if they are shown as headings. You can then press enter if you like, to activate them. VO space may work as well… Please in future, refrain from dis'ing someone on the list? - especially if you haven't checked out their suggestion?… thanks and have a great day!… Smiles, Cara :) --- Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn On Jun 15, 2009, at 6:39 PM, Jessi and Goldina wrote: huh? neither tabbing nor using the links list would show you the link that was inside the heading...well it would, but I'd think it would just be faster to interact with the heading!! lol. silly Alex. I seriously hope this is fixed in snow leopard! On 15-Jun-09, at 6:14 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: Hi, You can either tab or use the links list dialog. Regards, Alex, On 15-Jun-09, at 5:25 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: Hi. When you're on the heading, interact with it, and the link will appear. It can then be selected as usual. On Jun 15, 2009, at 2:54 AM, constantlyvaria...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! Now this may just be me not getting a concept right. Probably is. But here goes, anyway. Can somebody please tell me how to recognize a heading which is also a link? Perfect example: Google search results. Google renders them as headings which is beautiful because it lets us navigate between results at maximum speed. But VO just says heading, not link. To click on one, I have to interact with the heading. This produces the signal that VO usually plays when execution of a command is not possible, but from then on the item is recognized as a link. This leaves me wondering: Do I have to try to interact with every heading on a website just to make sure there's no link there? Thanks in advance for helpful answers, Felix --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
List Tasks
Hey All, I just wanted to take a second to apologize for any delays in list tasks / approval of new members and such. I'm currently held up at a small airport with aircraft tech difficulties and had a few minutes to check in with y'all!… It's a teenie airport and a fairly small plane, so we'll see what happens, and when it does so! smile Hopefully I'll get back to LA with enough time to enjoy the holiday!… I wish you all whom celebrate this independence day, a very, very lovely one!… Have a blast and I'll catch up with y'all real soon!… Smiles, Cara :) --- Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: List Tasks
Ah, forgot to mention the point of my note was to tell y'all that my net access has been a bit unwieldy over this past week. So It'll be a relief to get back home to catch up on things. Once again, apologies, and have a lovely day!… Smiles, Cara :) --- Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn On Jul 4, 2009, at 6:38 AM, Cara Quinn wrote: Hey All, I just wanted to take a second to apologize for any delays in list tasks / approval of new members and such. I'm currently held up at a small airport with aircraft tech difficulties and had a few minutes to check in with y'all!… It's a teenie airport and a fairly small plane, so we'll see what happens, and when it does so! smile Hopefully I'll get back to LA with enough time to enjoy the holiday!… I wish you all whom celebrate this independence day, a very, very lovely one!… Have a blast and I'll catch up with y'all real soon!… Smiles, Cara :) --- Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Back in LA LA land! -and- List tasks
Hey All, -just wanted to let you know that (after 21 hrs of travel shenanigans) I'm back home in LA! woohoo! It will take me a few days to get caught up on MacVisionaries and VIPhone but be assured I will! smile As I'd said before, my apologies to anyone whom has gone without a response or action on my part. Thanks very much for your patience and understanding. Talk with y'all soon and hope yer' all having a terrifically lovely / awesome weekend!… Smiles, Cara :) --- Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
List News!!!
Hey All, just a quick one to check in and let ya'll know that Josh de Lioncourt is now assisting me with moderation of this list. So please do show some love, K?… Believe it or not, I'm still catching up on emails and such from my last trip, so for those whom might have contacted me and have not yet seen a response, would you mind terribly, dropping me another note at:?… caraqu...@caraquinn.com smile -Or the alternative is still more patience on your part… lol! -I'd suggest the former option if you can… smile Anyway, am really enjoying the discussion here so please do keep it coming! Y'all rock!… Talk with ya soon and do have a most lovely day / evening wherever you may be!… Smiles, Cara :) --- Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
List Guidelines
Hey all, thought it was an appropriate time to post these again for your reading pleasure. Have an awesome day!… Smiles, Cara :) What is Off-topic for MacVisionaries? • Non-Mac-related postings • For Sale postings. You may email me privately if you have items for sale. • One line responses such as 'thank you' 'I agree' or 'Me too.' This also includes simply chiming in to second someone else. Unless you have some info which is something you really feel others would need to, or would very much like to read, a contribution of silence is a good one. • Ranting / 'yelling through your keyboard' If you have an issue you'd like to make known that bothers you, please do take the time before posting to arrange your thoughts into a coherent, useful message for others to read, which (when possible) contains links / valid info for others to locate if they wish • Notes asking for people to follow you on Twitter or be your friend on FaceBook or other social Networking sites. Including your Twitter / Facebook etc info in your signatures is fine and even encouraged. • Notes asking people to contact you on Skype or asking if you can contact someone on Skype. If someone needs assistance, please write them off list or have them write you. We're working on a Skype directory of users willing to help people, so for now, please keep this off the list. As in the above, do feel free, however, to include your Skype / chat info in your signature files if you so choose. • Notes with no answers in them. I.E. If you're really not sure how you can help someone with a question they've asked, then simply don't post. Let someone who does know, or has a good idea help that person. there's no harm in letting a question rest for a while if there's no immediate answer. • Posts asking about list policy, posts asking if your post got through, or test messages. Do not post these sorts of things to the list. Write me off-list instead. What is On-Topic for MacVisionaries? • Anything Mac-related! :) • Any questions from new / experienced users regarding anything at all on their Macs or Apple products. • Any actual answers to such above questions. If you have a guess, try it yourself first. If it works, then by all means, post it as an answer to the list! :) • Any warnings, or things to avoid doing which cause VO to not speak or crash. (or cause problems with a user's access tech) Preferably, it would also be nice to post a work-around for a problem if you know it. • Any news articles, Web Sites, or blog entries which are Mac / Apple related, or that have some 'real' involvement with such. I.E. is there a real honest connection between the two? Is the item you're posting really going to interest or impact a Mac / VO user? • Your own Mac / VO / Apple experiences! Feel free to post anything that you've experienced or are experiencing (good or bad) having to do with your Mac use, (with or without VO) your use of Apple products, or your experiences with Apple or at an Apple store. • Questions or concerns about a future Mac or Apple purchase. Feel free to ask anything you like about Apple / Mac before you buy! :) --- Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: IPhone accessibility
Actually the link is: http://groups.google.com/group/VIPhone lol not as intuitive as Josh's. Hth Sent from my iPhone On Jul 18, 2009, at 7:19 PM, Josh de Lioncourt overl...@lioncourt.com wrote: And go me! I forgot to include the link to the VIPhone list. Brilliant, I am. Here it is. http://googlegroups.com/group/viphone Josh de Lioncourt …my other mail provider is an owl… Twitter: http://twitter.com/Lioncourt Music: http://stage19music.com Mac-cessibility: http://www.Lioncourt.com Blog: http://lioncourtsmusings.blogspot.com GoodReads: http://goodreads.com/Lioncourt On Jul 18, 2009, at 4:10 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote: Hi folks, Just wondering how many of you that are now using the Ipone 3gs, are totally blind rather than the partially / Visually impaired users. The device to me sounds more like it's for a VI person than a totally blind person. I'm total and I'm trying to compare this for useage / accessibility against my Nokia s60 device. And as I've only had a very quick play with the IPhone 3gs I can't say I'm fixed on it yet. And I'm keen to hear how the totally blind users are getting on with it. Cheers Simonf. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: A question about iPhone
Just a super quickie correction here; in that one can actually have wifi on while the IPhone is in Airplane mode. In settings wifi is located right after airplane mode, so it's easy to turn one off while enabling the other… HTH and have a terrific day / weekend!… Smiles, CQ :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Jul 30, 2009, at 1:12 PM, Chris Hofstader wrote: Turning the iPhone to Aircraft mode will turn off all wireless activity including the phone. If you want Blue Tooth, WiFi or 3G, though, I think the phone needs to be on as well. On Jul 30, 2009, at 12:37 PM, william lomas wrote: i think the phone and PDA functions are all as one but I could be wrong WIll On 30 Jul 2009, at 17:02, Christian wrote: Hi all, i have just subscribed to this list and maybe this has already been asked but i just want to know. Tomorrow I am going to have a look at the iPhone. I have been using a Windows mobile phone for some time now and have a few questions. Is it possible to use the phones features without turning the actual phone on like the calendar and so on? Also, in the voicememo, is it possible to change recording format? Many thanks, Christian --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: the advent of audio/tactile games for the VIPs
confused. Cool idea. cdh On Jul 30, 2009, at 12:29 PM, Mark Baxter wrote: I really wonder why no one's heard of AudioQuake with MindGrid. The project has somewhat stalled out over the past two years, but the Jedi Quake, version, written by Cara Quinn and others, is the best 3D audio simulation I've seen. I can't speak for the parallel- processing audio capacity of the brain, but immediately this game and its maps made me start thinking about mobility orientation, applications. Having only ever encountered a mobility orienting instructor for the first time in memory last year, I don't know much about how most blind people do it, but I'm sure my skills aren't that different from the norm, and I saw implications for map-making and environment-learning, which is where I wanted to go with apps for the Iphone. I still have a Windows laptop running XP; I'll check out shades of doom. Mark BurningHawk Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com My home page: http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Moderator Note - Request for people interested in assisting with list management
Hey All; -Just wanted to send along a quick one to see whom might be interested in helping manage the VIPhone and / or MacVisionaries lists. Feel free to contact me off-list at: caraqu...@caraquinn.com or modelc...@gmail.com Josh and I aren't sure just yet if we'll be taking on new mods, but we're thinking about it, so we wanted to put out feelers. -Please, only serious offers from those whom are responsible, and who really do have enough flexible time on their hands, as it's the kind of thing where you could be called on on the spur of the moment to do some list activity for a few days, and we would really need to trust / rely on you, as we really would like the lists to run as smoothly as we can make them. Does this make sense?… So we'd love to hear from anyone whom might be interested!… -Write me when you'd like and do have a lovely weekend!… Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Moderator Note - Thank you All, and Congratulations to our two newest mods!
Hello All; As you may have guessed from the subject, Josh and I have decided to take on two new moderators to assist us with list tasks between the VIPhone and MacVisionaries lists. We'd like to welcome and congratulate Olivia Norman and Geoff Waaler as our two newest moderators! We're excited to have them joining us, and we know they'll do a wonderful job facilitating great, well-flowing discussions and keeping the lists smoothly on-track. Do show them the same respect you'd show Josh and I, if you would. If they make a request of you on the list, then treat it exactly as if Josh or I made it, K?… They have the lists' best interests in mind just like we do. To all those whom have been kind / gracious enough to write me in response to our initial query for assistance; I not only want to thank you most sincerely, but also let you know that I'll be writing you back privately soon, as some of you had questions and such. Trust me when I say my heart was warmed by the response we got! Your offers of help are truly and sincerely appreciated! woohoo! If you wouldn't mind, I'd also like to keep your emails for future. It was wonderful of you to volunteer and even though we've chosen two mods, it sure doesn't mean that you may not be able to help us out in future. So thank you all again! -You totally rock!!! :) Thanks so much to y'all for reading, and please do have a lovely day / evening, wherever you may be!… Smiles, Cara :)--- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Accessible iPhone / iPod touch / iPad app: AnywhereAbs
Hey All; I dig this app and wanted to share it with you! It's called AnywhereAbs and it's 99 cents. I like it because it's quite simple, very accessible, and gives you quite a passible workout when traveling and / or on a tight schedule. I'll first post the app's description and link (from the app store) and then a walk-through and important suggestions / warnings (from me) at the end. PLEASE DO READ THEM IF YOU WOULD, BEFORE YOU USE THIS APP!!!… :) Here goes the app store descript: Anywhere Abs is like having a workout partner on your iPhone/iPod. It will guide you step-by-step through a routine to strengthen your core. This routine, which takes only 6 minutes to complete at the Advanced level, is perfect for the frequent traveler or for home use. It can be performed anywhere there is space on the floor, making it an ideal hotel room workout! Anywhere Abs consists of 6 exercises, performed while a timer counts down for the duration of each exercise. A detailed description of each exercise is available for reference at any time during the workout. Having a strong core is important for any sport, and Anywhere Abs makes your workout partner as close as your iPhone/iPod. Okay, here's the app store linkie: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/anywhere-abs/id367401168?mt=8 -And now here's a walk-through to get you started with the app: 1 When you first start the app, you'll be presented with three buttons which you can double tap. These are not conventionally labeled, as they have 'Btn_' before their actual titles. So, in order from left to right they are: start, help and about. 2 Double tap start to start your workout. -Help gives you a quick overview of the app, and about is simply the app's info screen. 3 Once you begin your workout, you'll be presented with another three buttons, for the level of workout you'd like. These are beginner, intermediate and advanced. (These simply correspond to the amount of time for each exercise (30, 45 and 60 seconds); the exercises themselves are the same at every level) 4 The next screen you'll see, is the main screen where you'll spend your workout. It also contains three buttons, though these are indistinguishably labeled. they are, from left to right, start / pause, skip, and help. Start / pause starts or pauses the timer. Skip skips an exercise in the workout and help is described below. 5 Flick all the way to the right, and double tap help. 6 YOu'll be shown your first exercise, which will be displayed in a dialogue with an 'ok' button at the bottom. After you read the description of the exercise, you can double tap the 'ok' button and you'll be returned to the previous screen. 7 Double tapping start / pause will start or pause the timer for your first exercise. YOu'll hear a tone when the timer starts. 8 You can now perform the exercise you were just shown until you hear another tone signaling you to stop. 9 At this point, you can again flick all the way to the right and double tap help for a description of your next exercise. 10 You can keep repeating these last few steps now throughout your workout, with the exception of the fifth exercise. 11 On exercise 5, you'll be instructed to spend half the time on one side of your body, and half the time on the other. 12 You don't need to worry about seeing the screen for this; Once you double tap the start / pause button, and the timer counts down half of its total time, you'll receive a different tone than usual (telling you to switch sides) and the timer will actually be automatically paused so you can roll over. 13 So at this point, you need only double tap the start / pause button as usual, to restart the timer and finish this exercise. 14 Once you've finished the fifth exercise,you can then move on to finish the workout as usual. Okay, Now here are my notes / warnings: NOTE: While I really do like this app a whole lot, (enough to post about it) It's not by any means a complete workout, nor is it flexible. It is fast and convenient though, and it also works well as an accessible timer for each exercise. For those experienced with working out, it can be a nice simple supplement for a more complex / in-depth workout. A CAUTION and a WARNING: I'd suggest that this isn't an app for beginners. -Strongly suggest as a matter of fact… I say this, partially for the level of some of the exercises, but also because, while the app is fairly good about describing each exercise, it fails in my opinion, in regard to telling the user how to properly get into / out of the last two yoga poses in the workout. Here's where the warning comes in; if one doesn't get into these properly, it's possible to stress or hurt the lower back. Now, there may be images on the screen of how properly to get into / out of these poses, but there is nothing I can find in the app or the descriptions of the two final poses for the workout. On top of this,
Re: Accessible iPhone/iPad apps and refunds
Hi Bryan; I for one, agree with you whole-heartedly. I've actually been in touch with Apple about this in the past, and my contacts also felt it would be a good idea, however, as yet nothing has seemingly happened with it. I'd encourage you and anyone else interested to email accessibil...@apple.com with these concerns / suggestions. I know this sounds like a blow-off, but it really isn't! lol! I think more of us just need to be nicely and politely making these points heard, that's all, and that email addie is the best way I know, to do it. smile Anyway, I'd surely like this situation to improve as well. Thanks so much for posting!!!… SMiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On May 6, 2010, at 1:29 PM, Bryan Smart wrote: Hi. There are so many apps available. As we know, some are completely accessible, some are accessible with some workarounds, and some not at all. With free apps, this isn't a problem. You install them, check them out, and, if they aren't accessible, you can just delete them. With paid apps, though, the situation is different. There are some accessibility reviews of some apps, but only a fraction of what's available. Since hardly any of the apps offer demos, we must buy the app, and risk that the purchase will be wasted on an app that we can't even use. When the app only costs $0.99, like some iPhone apps, that isn't so bad, but iPad apps can cost $5, $10, and even more in some cases. I think that Apple should take some small steps to accommodate us. Not only is it a sorry situation when one of us purchases an app that we discover to be inaccessible, but, for some people, having a few such experiences will trim back on their willingness to push that buy button in the future. Pressing the buy button should not feel like a roll of the dice. I suggest: 1. The App Store should provide some way for people to rate the accessibility of an app. A 5 star system, similar to how apps are rated in general might be nice. 2. There should be some way that customers can optionally restrict the App Store to showing only accessible applications. If people would like to explore new apps, that's fine, but, if they just want to look at what is known to be accessible, they should have that option. 3. Customers should be able to receive refunds for apps that they can't use. Since the app store provides no indication of how accessible a program is, and there is usually no way to try the program first, we should be able to get a refund if we can't use our purchase. What do you all think? What can be done? I've purchased a few apps that are completely inaccessible. For example, I purchased Korg Electribe, a beat making program, for $10. Can't use it at all. Bryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Accessible iPhone/iPad apps and refunds
To be fair here, I'm not trying to help rouse the troops as it were. I completely agree with you, but I'd really encourage people to simply voice these concerns in a polite and amicable way, rather than complaining. I say this, as (no offense to anyone in particular) in my opinion, the blind community just tends to over-react, and get ridiculously up-in-arms over everything much of the time, and rather than making this out to be a situation where Apple is somehow the bad guys, forcing us to pay for apps, or binding and preventing us from having a say as to an app's accessibility, I'd simply propose that this is merely a case of the majority of the market being sighted, and not enough of us voicing these concerns on a regular basis. So rather than a bunch of us flagrantly flying off the handle to the people at accessibil...@apple.com, I'd personally just rather see people carrying on an adult dialogue which can be constructive. Quite simply, the more of us that say something, the more of us that will be heard. Do we want to be heard as over-emotional unstable complainers, or as rational friendly adults trying to bring about positive changes?… I know you know what I mean, so I won't dwell on semantics. Thanks all for reading, and again, let's make our voices heard in the best way possible, K?… Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On May 6, 2010, at 3:39 PM, Bryan Smart wrote: Absolutely. Anyone on the list with an iPhone, iPad, or iPod Touch, please write to complain. It isn't write for Apple to not give us info about an app's accessibility, give us no way to evaluate that accessibility for ourselves, force us to buy the app in order to find out, and then deny us a refund if it isn't accessible. We should either be given a way to know how accessible an app is in advance, or be given the option of a refund if we find that an app isn't accessible after purchasing it. Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cara Quinn Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 6:29 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Accessible iPhone/iPad apps and refunds Hi Bryan; I for one, agree with you whole-heartedly. I've actually been in touch with Apple about this in the past, and my contacts also felt it would be a good idea, however, as yet nothing has seemingly happened with it. I'd encourage you and anyone else interested to email accessibil...@apple.com with these concerns / suggestions. I know this sounds like a blow-off, but it really isn't! lol! I think more of us just need to be nicely and politely making these points heard, that's all, and that email addie is the best way I know, to do it. smile Anyway, I'd surely like this situation to improve as well. Thanks so much for posting!!!... SMiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On May 6, 2010, at 1:29 PM, Bryan Smart wrote: Hi. There are so many apps available. As we know, some are completely accessible, some are accessible with some workarounds, and some not at all. With free apps, this isn't a problem. You install them, check them out, and, if they aren't accessible, you can just delete them. With paid apps, though, the situation is different. There are some accessibility reviews of some apps, but only a fraction of what's available. Since hardly any of the apps offer demos, we must buy the app, and risk that the purchase will be wasted on an app that we can't even use. When the app only costs $0.99, like some iPhone apps, that isn't so bad, but iPad apps can cost $5, $10, and even more in some cases. I think that Apple should take some small steps to accommodate us. Not only is it a sorry situation when one of us purchases an app that we discover to be inaccessible, but, for some people, having a few such experiences will trim back on their willingness to push that buy button in the future. Pressing the buy button should not feel like a roll of the dice. I suggest: 1. The App Store should provide some way for people to rate the accessibility of an app. A 5 star system, similar to how apps are rated in general might be nice. 2. There should be some way that customers can optionally restrict the App Store to showing only accessible applications. If people would like to explore new apps, that's fine, but, if they just want to look at what is known to be accessible, they should have that option. 3. Customers should be able to receive refunds for apps that they can't use. Since the app store provides no indication of how accessible a program is, and there is usually no way to try the program first, we should be able to get a refund if we can't use our purchase. What do you all think? What can
Re: it's here!
Just a quickie; it's also worth noting here that you can use the brick part of the adapter with the small, two-prong assembly, to connect to power on aircraft and such (where applicable) so you don't need to have all the extra cord. So hanging on to the lil prongy bit is definitely a good idea! :) Have a great night All! -And congrats to all the newest Mac users out there! woohoo! Smiles, CQ :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On May 24, 2010, at 5:33 PM, Ana G wrote: Thanks all. It was time to charge my Mac, and I was about to post the same question to clarify. Baxter wrote: I think you're looking at the modular power adapter thing. The big square thing, (Wall wart) has a piece that removes which contains the prongs for a standard wall socket; once you remove that little piece (Don't lose it! as I keep almost doing :) ) you plug the end of the power cord which you also find in the box into the place where the little piece was, and you have a conventional 3-pronged system and a longer extension cord for your mac. Hope this is contextually helpful -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Does anybody know an easy way of making HTML.
Hi Annie, here's half an answer for you. :) You can import a text file or rtf into text edit and then simply save it as html. The text formatting will be preserved. There's a function in the edit menu of TextEdit to insert a link, so you'd need to highlight the text you'd like to create a link with, and you'll see a dialogue asking you where the destination should be. YOu'd then type in the web address the link should go to, and that's it. Once you save the document with the html extension, you can then open it in Safari or again in TextEdit and you should see your links and formatted text. Now, I say this is half an answer, because, while you can create larger font sizes for titles, format text and create links, I personally can't seem to find an easy way (short of manually tagging) to create headers. YOu could certainly do this afterward if you'd like. Am assuming you already know the header tags, but if not, just shout out and I'm happy to post them. They're really easy! :) HOpe this helps and do have a lovely weekend!… Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On May 27, 2010, at 2:58 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: Hi all. Is there an easy to use program, where I can import a txt file or a rtf file, and then make it to html. I need to make some links and a lot of headings in different levels. Best regards Annie. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Moderator Note: Please read -was- Re: Can anyone possibly help me?
William and list; There are basically four mods between the two groups now. (three for this group) I'll list the three contacts for MacVisionaries below. William, rather than post this here, could you not simply have emailed one of us?… -And, might I add, that calling us ignorant is really not a very endearing trait. yes?… :) You know (from being on these lists a long time) that you can *always* write me privately and with the addition of the other mods, them as well. If I don't seem to get back with you in a couple of days, then by all means, just write me again. Sometimes I get busy. I try to keep up with everybody though. I'm writing this as an open letter so ya'll know that you can always write me, Josh, or Olivia (for this group) at: Me: caraqu...@caraquinn.com Josh: overl...@lioncourt.com Olivia: olivianor...@gmail.com Have a great evening and talk with ya'll soon!… Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On May 27, 2010, at 10:25 AM, william lomas wrote: HI all, I am on the viphone list, and can happily receive messages but when I post I get the error at the bottom of this mail. If I have been banned from posting, why has the moderator not told me? that is pure ignorence on their part Hello lomaswill...@googlemail.com, We're writing to let you know that the group you tried to contact (viphone) may not exist, or you may not have permission to post messages to the group. A few more details on why you weren't able to post: * You might have spelled or formatted the group name incorrectly. * The owner of the group may have removed this group. * You may need to join the group before receiving permission to post. * This group may not be open to posting. If you have questions related to this or any other Google Group, visit the Help Center athttp://groups.google.com/support/?hl=en_US. Thanks, Google Groups - Original message - Received: by 10.216.85.85 with SMTP id t63mr104462wee.8.1274980706708; Thu, 27 May 2010 10:18:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.85.85 with SMTP id t63mr104461wee.8.1274980706664; Thu, 27 May 2010 10:18:26 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: lomaswill...@googlemail.com Received: from mail-wy0-f179.google.com (mail-wy0-f179.google.com [74.125.82.179]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id h25si1535631wbc.0.2010.05.27.10.18.25; Thu, 27 May 2010 10:18:25 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lomaswill...@googlemail.com designates 74.125.82.179 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.179; Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain oflomaswill...@googlemail.com designates 74.125.82.179 as permitted sender)smtp.mail=lomaswill...@googlemail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header...@googlemail.com Received: by mail-wy0-f179.google.com with SMTP id 11so170519wyi.24 for viph...@googlegroups.com; Thu, 27 May 2010 10:18:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:subject:date:message-id:to:mime-version :x-mailer; bh=MB6/D9dzdLWNfBh24websioes9vf9a41WXJhgHRJroI=; b=Nl6zWgefrwC2Wo7E5ZqQ3sjaY8cvS98t9fjBPwVTLTgMRhYOkMKsXminFgbIm1oywY T6Mv7VE1Al4ZJee1yhJN0Bbj6VbJEeyk5flIKCwOoBHZROWxZYRTpaGBxSalCKm2ZOpZ i8NjNsNgOHbFogd8SPjA+lFZmGPWo8QuEk+mY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:subject:date:message-id :to:mime-version:x-mailer; b=rc1O5CAJnpFVKD5kD2XoaJn4fJRgpIX7VwGNKyn4Vn5Xa2V3uLlMriDtdXZuG5YbD2 JvMFKOilX2btBw6Vmcin3cSjwPbhZAj4CNAbtOQ0hzRhM9VrKzbJQwCAcoUGoPmj2W9/ 55zeIfE58w/Pap+xfo/ckojkxJN+3rA/EI1so= Received: by 10.227.151.77 with SMTP id b13mr10136717wbw.13.1274980705364; Thu, 27 May 2010 10:18:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: lomaswill...@googlemail.com Received: from [192.168.0.2] (5e019866.bb.sky.com [94.1.152.102]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y31sm9761541wby.16.2010.05.27.10.18.21 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 27 May 2010 10:18:22 -0700 (PDT) From: william lomas lomaswill...@googlemail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: ibooks Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 18:18:19 +0100 Message-Id: 6c019b47-e999-46c7-8e53-6c361dfa4...@googlemail.com To: viph...@googlegroups.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1078) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1078) Hi all, does anyone know, will IBooks be released at the same time as OS4? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
Re: skype update on iphone
Will is correct. Both the table index at the right edge of the screen will work, as well as the three-finger swipe up or down to see more pages of contacts. Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On May 30, 2010, at 6:31 AM, william lomas wrote: You can use the table index I think and if you use three finguer swipe up I think it displays more rows On May 30, 2010, at 1:36 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: Hello, Confirmed here too. The fact that i can't flick left/right is no big issue for me personally, but what is a bit more problematic is that if you have contacts ranging over several screen pages, you can't flick up and down to show more pages, that's not good. I wonder though if we should wait with our reports until the new Iphone os comes out, as it seems that the problem is fixed there. /Krister 30 maj 2010 kl. 14.32 skrev Doug Lawlor: Hello, I can confirm that those commands don't work on the currently released iPhone OS either. Using OS 3.1.3.7018. Thanks, Doug On 2010-05-29, at 8:27 PM, Peter Durieux wrote: Hi Listers, Today there was an update for the skype application on the iphone., The newest version allows you to make skype calls over the 3g network. I've 2 things about the latest update: 1) 4 voice over commands don't work anymore that worked before: The two finger flick up for read the hole screen, the read from cursor and the irritating one swiping right or left don't bring you to the previous or next element on screen. the only way you can use right now is dragging your finger on the screen and voice over announces what you touch. So all users of the skype application with voice over should report this as a bug and hopefully the guys at skype will fix this soon as possible. 2) This is jut a remark, the update says that skhype to skype over 3g will be free until the end of august and then they will charge a bit for skype to skype calls. This was just for info and please report this to skype. The more reports maybe the faster a fix will be available. Kind regards -Peter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Audible content on Iphone
Hi Allison; Yes, you can most definitely listen to Audible content on the iPhone. As for music playback, it does a quick little fade when the phone rings and then can be easily resumed when you finish the call. When not in the iPod app itself, you can do a two-finger double tap to start or stop the music at any time. Yes, essentially, you have all of the functionality of an iPod and a whole lot more, with the iPhone. It's amazing!… :) Hope this helps and please do feel free to ask any further questions you may have. Smiles, CQ :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Jun 1, 2010, at 4:48 PM, Allison Manzino wrote: Hi all, I'm contemplating purchasing an Iphone 3GS as my Nokia keeps freezing up. I'm thinking of getting the 32 gig one. Can you play audible content on it? ALso, if you're listening to a song and you receive a phone call what happens? I mean does the music stop and the phone ring? I really want an Iphone and an Ipod Touch 3rd generation. I thought the Iphone would solve both of these dilemmas, so I could have both an Iphone and Ipod. Any thoughts? Any experience with Iphone and music? Thanks again for all your help. Musically, Allison -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Setting up hotkeys in Skype
Actually you can definitely set up Skype with hot keys, however you're right in that you can't set up a key for specifically answering a call. YOu go about this in System Preferences though, and not through Skype, which is probably why you missed it. :) I would have too, so no worries! lol! 1 go into System Preferences and then into the Keyboard page. 2 choose the Keyboard Shortcuts tab. 3 YOu'll see two tables; in the first one, select 'Application Shortcuts' and then tab to the 'Add an application shortcut' button. 4 YOu'll now be in a dialogue where you can choose the application you'd like to create the shortcut for, type in the menu option you'd like the shortcut to apply to, and type in the shortcut itself. 5 NOTE: as mentioned above, you'll need to type in the menu option EXACTLY as it appears in the application. I.E. in Skype, if you'd like to create a shortcut to hang up a call, you'd type in Hang Up (note the capitals) as Hang UP is the option in the Call menu. Since there's no menu option to answer a call, there's really no way I know of to set a keyboard shortcut for one. :) Hope this helps and do have a lovely evening!… Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Jun 1, 2010, at 6:13 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: YOu can't. the way I anwser a call is to vo shift end and then vo left twice to th eanswer button. I can answer a call in about 2 seconds. taekcare. On Jun 1, 2010, at 3:38 PM, Allison Manzino wrote: Hi all, Does anyone know how to configure SKype with hotkeys? I can't even figure out how to answer a call in Skype. THank you for all your assistance. Have a great day! Allison -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: accessing mail that was placed in junk folder by mail filter
Hi Courtney; If you're talking about the filter in Mail itself, yes, you can access your junk mailbox. One very reliable way to get there is to go to your Mailboxes menu in the menu bar and choose 'Go to.' This will bring up another menu of your current mailboxes. Press enter on Junk and voila! you're there! HOpe this helps and do have a lovely evening!… Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Jun 1, 2010, at 6:45 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: Hi, Is there any way to access mail that was placed in the junk folder by a mail filter. I think something important might be in there. Can I do this through Apple Mail, or do I have to perform the tedious task of going to the server and looking (smiley). Courtney -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: 2 Questions from Mark Regarding The Mac Mail Client in Snow Leopard
Hi Mark, while I don't know a quickie way to close all those windows, you should be able to simply interact with the splitter, to solve your other issue. Once you interact, you can move the splitter around with VO arrows. Best of luck and have a wonderful night!… Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Jun 1, 2010, at 9:12 PM, M. Taylor wrote: Hello All, To my surprise, I find that I much prefer to use the Mac Mail Client to Outlook, these days for a host of reasons. 1. Currently, I use the threaded message view to read all mail. One reason I find this extremely convenient is because when I press the enter key on the message header as it appears in the messages list box, it opens all of the thread's messages, each post in a separate window. So, after reading each post, all I need do is press Command+W to close the window currently in focus. Lets assume that the Mac Mail client has opened 10 windows in a thread, each containing one post in the thread. Now, I've read three of the messages; consequently, I have had to press Command+W 3 times to close three windows, right? At this point, I decide that I no longer wish to read the remaining opened 7 windows. Question: Is there a keyboard shortcut that will let me close all of the remaining opened windows at once? 2. A long time ago, for some reason which I cannot remember, I removed the preview pane in the message list. Consequently, I cannot use the J command to quickly view a message until I restore this view. To do this, I must, somehow, move the horizontal splitter up. Aside from getting sighted assistance, is there a way I can drag the splitter to a new position or is there a menu selection that will restore the original view? Thank you. Mark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: hard drives in macbook pro.
Wow, I've had the opposite experience! lol! go figure! I've had one of mine (a 2007 white) apart several times and have had no issues with stripping screws or such. Which model is yours, by chance?… Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Jun 3, 2010, at 8:47 AM, Bryan Smart wrote: However, taking the MacBook apart to put in the drive will be a frustrating experience. You've never seen screws that tiny, or that strip that easily. I upgraded my memory to 8GB, and will never again open my MacBook if I can help it. Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 8:18 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: hard drives in macbook pro. It will be a normal sata ii 5400 rpm drive. There not designed exclusively for the mbp's, so you can go onto a pc components website and buy a normal cheep 7200 drive. On 03/06/2010, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote: Hi kimberly, look under apple in the menu bar. Go into about this Mac. hth On Jun 2, 2010, at 7:28 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote: I do know the ram is DDR3, but I would be interested in knowing what type hard drive is in the MBP as well. Also, where do I go to find out my system information, i.e. hard drive capacity, amount of ram, etc. TIA Kim On Jun 2, 2010, at 6:13 PM, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote: Evening all, I'm thinking of upgrading both the memory and the HD in my MBP. Anyone know what type of drive is inside these things? I want to get a bigger 7200 RPM disk and replace the one it came with. Cheers Dónal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: solona
Olivia; to adjust the brightness, use either F1 and F2 to lower or raise the brightness respectively, or add the function key, depending on how you have your function key settings set. To take a screen shot simply focus on the window you'd like to take the screen shot of, making sure your brightness is at 100 percent, and press command shift 3. This will save a screen shot to your desktop which will be aptly labeled with the words 'screen shot' and a time stamp. HOpe this helps and have a lovely Saturday night! woohoo! Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Jun 5, 2010, at 1:56 PM, Olivia Norman wrote: I don't understand how to take a screen shot at all. where do I focus my curser? I'm a bit confused by the process as well. On a macbook keyboard, how do I adjust the screen brightness? Olivia Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower Steve Jobs On Jun 5, 2010, at 1:46 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: 1. turn your screen brightness to 100 percent with fn. f2 or f2 depending on how your keyboard is set up 2. go to the website where the offending captcha is and hit cmd shift number row 3. 3. by default your screenshot is saved to your desktop so go back to solona, hit vo space on submit captcha, choose the file and hit the submit button. 4. Now copy and paste the results in to the field where it is supposed to be on the offending site. S On Jun 5, 2010, at 1:21 PM, Alfredo wrote: I use it on windows without the application since I believe that installing uneeded programs on your computer, is well a waste of time and you never know when a program will start acting up when you try to uninstall it. I just went tot he windows instructions, read them, followed them, and thats how I get my catchas solved. I would suggest that you do the same, this way you do not have to use the command line. The down side to this method would be that you do not know if you have actually pasted the picture into your paint program or similar for the mac, but trust me, if you pressed the keys, the computer did it. I will write a tutorial on this, up it will come in about a month or so. Alfredo -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Moderator Note -was- Re: [bcab] End of Freedom?
Hi All; while I (to be sure) really do find this topic tremendously interesting, it's wandering very much on the boundaries of serious off-topic land. :) so please, if you can incorporate some sort of relevant Mac / iPhone / iPod / iPad / Voiceover / general Apple content then by all means please do continue! -Otherwise, unfortunately, we'll need to move on to something more relevant for the list. K? Thanks so much for reading and thanks for the really great read thus far!… -Y'all rock!… Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Moderator note - Installing iOS 4 early
Hi all; Well some of you are probably already going to guess what I'm going to say here. -but I'll say it anyway. :) If you want to do this sort of thing, then you'll need to take it off-list. While I totally see the 'cool' factor in installing the OS early, and am as excited as anyone to get my hands on it, I'd just remind you that encouraging downloading versions of software here that are pirated or illegally distributed via torrents and such, as (I believe) iOS 4 currently is, I'd ask that it just not be discussed in detail here. As usual, you're more than welcome to talk about it in a general conversational sense, but we'd ask that you not send details or links to such here to the list. Thanks so much for respecting the list policies. Have a great day / evening!… Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Windows Narrator for vm fusion
Hi Ana et al; -Actually just as a quickie clarification, the option key on the Mac replaces the alt key on Windows, so the command key is actually the windows key in this case. So when you're in Windows, the Windows key and alt keys are reversed. I.E. In a Windows environment, from the space bar out to the left, you would have windows key, alt key and control key. Hope this helps and do have a totally amazingly lovely day! Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Jun 10, 2010, at 10:01 AM, Ana G wrote: To start Windows narrator right away, hit Windows+u. I believe this is equivalent to Option+u. In a windows environment, The key next to the spacebar is the alt key; the Windows key is second; and the control key is last. for Mac, these are equivalent to command, option, and control. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Moderator Note - Discussion of pirated software on MacVisionaries / Installing iOS 4 early
Okay All; First things first. The next person (and anyone thereafter) to post details on obtaining / installation of pirated software on this list will simply have their posting privileges revoked. (no questions asked) Now, to be clear, by 'pirated software' I mean software that isn't legitimately legally available to yourself or the list as a whole. This also refers to software which is illegally obtained. (such as via illegal torrents etc.) So basically, if you're not supposed to have it at the present point in time, then don't show others how to get it by posting instructions or links here on this list. Simple as that. This is just not the place for this sort of thing. NOw, having said this, you are totally free to keep the topic of early installation of iOS 4 going as long as you focus on its other aspects. I.E. the politics of such, or how it effects VO users. etc etc etc. In other words, any aspect of this topic that is relevant to a Mac / iPhone / iPad / iPod / VO user is fair game as long as you don't give instructions or share links to promote illegal activity of any kind, here on this list. Does this make sense?… To the ones who've just posted, you have a hall pass for now. -Anyone does this again; you're not posting here again. -That's it… Have a terrific day and chat with y'all soon!… Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: opening applications folder in the doc
HI chris; have you tried pressing enter on the folder in the dock, that you'd like to open?… YOu should not only be able to see the items in said folder, but you should also be given the option to open the folder in Finder rather than just seeing it on the dock. Also, pressing VO shift M will also bring up a menu of other options; open should be one of them. Best of luck and have a great weekend!… Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Jun 12, 2010, at 7:33 AM, Chris Westbrook wrote: This seems like a really stupid question, but I'll ask it anyway. When I hit vo space on the applications folder on the doc, it says pressed, but nothing happens. When I do that for other items the items get opened. Am I doing something wrong? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: opening applications folder in the doc
Ah, thanks for the shout out Mark! *big smile* However, it seems that in the dock, command down arrow is a fail! eek! For the dock (when speaking of folders) I usually use enter or VO shift m. Have a rockin' day / weekend!… Smiles, CQ :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Jun 12, 2010, at 9:22 AM, M. Taylor wrote: As for opening Apps, Folders, etc, I use the key combination taught to me by Cara many months ago. The key combo I use is Command+Down Arrow. Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 7:41 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: opening applications folder in the doc Hi, You have to interact to before using VO spacebar to open an application using the apllication browser in the finder. To not have to interact, I suggest just using command O to open an application. hth On Jun 12, 2010, at 10:33 AM, Chris Westbrook wrote: This seems like a really stupid question, but I'll ask it anyway. When I hit vo space on the applications folder on the doc, it says pressed, but nothing happens. When I do that for other items the items get opened. Am I doing something wrong? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: opening applications folder in the doc
Hey Donna, cool beans! Also, command down arrow will open folders too. -And, once in a folder, command up arrow will do two things. Firstly, if you have something selected, it will unselect it, and then on the second press of command up arrow, you'll be moved backward, to the enclosing folder you just came from. Enjoy!… Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Jun 12, 2010, at 2:31 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: Hey, that command down arrow is cool! I never knew about that. thanks! Donna On Jun 12, 2010, at 5:12 PM, Cara Quinn wrote: Ah, thanks for the shout out Mark! *big smile* However, it seems that in the dock, command down arrow is a fail! eek! For the dock (when speaking of folders) I usually use enter or VO shift m. Have a rockin' day / weekend!… Smiles, CQ :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Jun 12, 2010, at 9:22 AM, M. Taylor wrote: As for opening Apps, Folders, etc, I use the key combination taught to me by Cara many months ago. The key combo I use is Command+Down Arrow. Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 7:41 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: opening applications folder in the doc Hi, You have to interact to before using VO spacebar to open an application using the apllication browser in the finder. To not have to interact, I suggest just using command O to open an application. hth On Jun 12, 2010, at 10:33 AM, Chris Westbrook wrote: This seems like a really stupid question, but I'll ask it anyway. When I hit vo space on the applications folder on the doc, it says pressed, but nothing happens. When I do that for other items the items get opened. Am I doing something wrong? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: opening applications folder in the doc
Hi Mary; When in the dock, VO space or enter will open a folder or app. YOu can also bring up a context menu with VO shift M which will have the 'open' option in it as well. I think I just missed the VO space option when responding to Chris and Mark! oops! Anyway, hope this helps. Have a great day!… Smiles, CQ :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Jun 12, 2010, at 1:39 PM, Mary Otten wrote: Hi Mark, I've never tried command down arrow for opening anything. I just tried it on an app in the dock and on the applications folder and nothing happened. i had quick nav on, so I turned it off, thinking that would make a difference, maybe. Still nothing. command down arrow does nothing here. Am I missing a step? mary -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: opening applications folder in the doc
Great tips Mike, but be careful of one of these. Depending on where a user has the dock positioned, (left, right or bottom of the screen) the arrow used to open the folder will be different. I.E. When the dock is on the left, the right arrow will open the folder; when it's on the right, the left arrow will open the folder. -And, as you say, when it's on the bottom of the screen, the up arrow will open the folder. -The rule of thumb is that the arrow that points to the middle of the screen will open the folder. Personally, I just find it easier to either use VO space or enter. -And, if I want a context menu, I just use VO shift M. HOpe this helps!… Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Jun 12, 2010, at 2:40 PM, Mike Pedersen wrote: Another thing that I find makes use of the applications, downloads, and documents icons more useful is to do the following: 1. VO+shift+m on the doc icon that you wish to act upon 2. Make sure that folder and list are checked and be sure that stacks or fan are not After you do this you should find that pressing an up-arrow on these icons will present you a list of whatever is in that particular folder. Mike On Jun 12, 2010, at 2:22 PM, Cara Quinn wrote: Hey Donna, cool beans! Also, command down arrow will open folders too. -And, once in a folder, command up arrow will do two things. Firstly, if you have something selected, it will unselect it, and then on the second press of command up arrow, you'll be moved backward, to the enclosing folder you just came from. Enjoy!… Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Jun 12, 2010, at 2:31 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: Hey, that command down arrow is cool! I never knew about that. thanks! Donna On Jun 12, 2010, at 5:12 PM, Cara Quinn wrote: Ah, thanks for the shout out Mark! *big smile* However, it seems that in the dock, command down arrow is a fail! eek! For the dock (when speaking of folders) I usually use enter or VO shift m. Have a rockin' day / weekend!… Smiles, CQ :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Jun 12, 2010, at 9:22 AM, M. Taylor wrote: As for opening Apps, Folders, etc, I use the key combination taught to me by Cara many months ago. The key combo I use is Command+Down Arrow. Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 7:41 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: opening applications folder in the doc Hi, You have to interact to before using VO spacebar to open an application using the apllication browser in the finder. To not have to interact, I suggest just using command O to open an application. hth On Jun 12, 2010, at 10:33 AM, Chris Westbrook wrote: This seems like a really stupid question, but I'll ask it anyway. When I hit vo space on the applications folder on the doc, it says pressed, but nothing happens. When I do that for other items the items get opened. Am I doing something wrong? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post
Re: opening applications folder in the doc
Hi Mary; As Mike mentions, if you bring up a context menu on the folders you'd like to open, and make sure the list option is checked, you should be in luck. Have you tried this already?… Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Jun 12, 2010, at 2:47 PM, Mary Otten wrote: Hi Cara, Neither vo plus space or enter does anything for me when in the doc on the applications or documents folders. vo shift m brings up the menu that has the open option in it. enter and vo plus space work on the doanload and other folders, but not applications or documents. Weird. mary -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: opening applications folder in the doc
Hey Anne; -Good points! However, for someone like me who just doesn't have a good memory for lots of keyboard shortcuts, and prefers the GUI approach, the Dock option is way more intuitive. Thanks so much for the reminder though! As always, you rock!… Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Jun 12, 2010, at 3:53 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: Why go to the Dock to open the Applications or Documents folders? It's much quicker to do Command-Shift-a for Applications, and Command-Shift-o for Documents. Command-Shift-u for Utilities is also useful. Cheers, Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Resolving strange Safari / OS issues -was- Re: can't order my iPhone because of VO bug
Hey Olivia, I notice others have replied to you with the suggestion of the Apple Store app. this is what I would have suggested as well. did it work? NOw a couple of more suggestions about your and others' general issues. • have you repaired permissions? -Just a little black magic to throw into the mix. :) • have you downloaded / installed the combo update of 10.6.4? Sometimes this can help with strange issues. • Lastly, you might consider backing everything up to a time machine backup, wiping your drive, installing the 10.6.4 combo update and then letting your new system be restored from your time machine backup. Admittedly this last step is a bit annoying but it can work wonders! :) Hope this helps and have a great night!… Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Jun 15, 2010, at 4:47 PM, Olivia Norman wrote: So I tried to go to the apple site to order my iPhone, but had the same problem as with audible. VO constantly restarted and I couldn't get the job done. Has anyone had any luck navigating around the Apple site with out VO restarting? I don't understand why some are having issues, while others aren't, but if anyone's got any suggestions for how to resolve this, I'd appreciate them! Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower Steve Jobs -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Resolving strange Safari / OS issues -was- Re: can't order my iPhone because of VO bug
Ah, I should have clarified a bit on my last step. My sincere apologies. In order to wipe your drive and perform a fresh install of the latest combo update, you'll need to have your Snow Leopard disc from which to boot. Once you do this, and the install program begins, choose your language, and then you can access disc utility from within the install app by going to the menu bar with VO in the usual way. You can then locate the tools menu. In this menu you should find disc utility as an option. Bringing this up will allow you to erase the disc you'd like to install on to, so you'll be able to start fresh with a clean install of snow Leopard. Once you have it installed, you can then install the combo update and finally, restore your system from the time machine backup you made. It's a bit of work, but it can resolve all manner of issues. Smiles, CQ :) ---My previous message follows--- Hey Olivia, I notice others have replied to you with the suggestion of the Apple Store app. this is what I would have suggested as well. did it work? NOw a couple of more suggestions about your and others' general issues. • have you repaired permissions? -Just a little black magic to throw into the mix. :) • have you downloaded / installed the combo update of 10.6.4? Sometimes this can help with strange issues. • Lastly, you might consider backing everything up to a time machine backup, wiping your drive, installing the 10.6.4 combo update and then letting your new system be restored from your time machine backup. Admittedly this last step is a bit annoying but it can work wonders! :) Hope this helps and have a great night!… Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Jun 15, 2010, at 4:47 PM, Olivia Norman wrote: So I tried to go to the apple site to order my iPhone, but had the same problem as with audible. VO constantly restarted and I couldn't get the job done. Has anyone had any luck navigating around the Apple site with out VO restarting? I don't understand why some are having issues, while others aren't, but if anyone's got any suggestions for how to resolve this, I'd appreciate them! Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower Steve Jobs -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: How To Get VoiceOver To Read Mail Messages Automatically
Hi Dave; What you'd like to do in Mail on the Mac in Snow Leopard 10.6.4 with VO, is certainly doable. :) First, simply move to the messages table and then just use plain arrow keys (no VO keys necessary) to move through your message headers. This will read the sender and subject etc. as you move to each message in the table. YOu can also select or deselect as well as rearrange the displayed columns so you can customize what you'd like to hear in what order. Then, to read a message, you need only use the tab key and the message will read automatically. From here, if you delete the message, you'll be automatically placed back in the messages table with the next message highlighted, and you can again simply press tab to read that message. this is a very quick way to go through mail. If you choose not to delete a particular message, you can also use shift tab if you like, to get back to the message table as well, and then simply continue reading your mail as above. HTH and have a lovely day / evening!… Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Jun 17, 2010, at 10:35 AM, Dave Taylor wrote: Hi Quick Nav certainly sounds excellent but doesn't appear to mimic things like VO J. I in fact instigated the BCAB Apple day in July after Sight Village Birmingham which seems to be very popular, so will be doing exactly what you suggest as well. I'm asking so many questions right now in order to maximise the effectiveness of the day should many people's fears about the presenters be proved right. I don't know who they are but know the people sourcing them will be finding the best they can. Cheers Dave -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anne Robertson Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 6:18 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: How To Get VoiceOver To Read Mail Messages Automatically Has no one told you about Quick Nav? It sounds like what you're asking for. However, you won't get any idea of VoiceOver by just asking questions. If you can get to an Apple Store or Apple reseller, try one out. Cheers, Anne On Jun 17, 2010, at 7:13 PM, Dave Taylor wrote: Wish you could lock the VO keys with an arrow based command, that would make a lot of difference I think! -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Maxwell Ivey Jr. Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 4:38 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: How To Get VoiceOver To Read Mail Messages Automatically hello; from my experience I generally use vo, which is control plus option, with the arrow keys, space bar, and shift key. I use tab and shift tab for some things. I use vo i and vo u a lot for the links menu and items menu. and if you have the newer ones and are familiar with using a mouse you can do a lot of things with the track pad commander feature. good luck with your decision, max On Jun 17, 2010, at 4:27 AM, Dave Taylor wrote: Here is where I think one of the biggest issues is though. As a prospective Mac user, from the demos and manuals, there seem to be an awful lot of different and often complex keystrokes to do things. I'm not clear if one needs all of them or if people doing the demos are making things more complex than needed, or just not explaining why things are the way they are. In Windows we can work out which methods to try based on what kind of task we are doing. We know that you activate things with either enter or space, both single keystrokes. We know there are many ways to move around, but we know that we can find most things by exploring menus or tabbing. Most times, our screen readers know what we are most likely to want to do and give us the option of automating that task, often on a per application basis. They can also give us relatively simple keystrokes on a per application basis to do tasks specific to that application. It comes across that with a Mac you have at least three different way to select things and that only one of them will work in a given situation. It comes across that you have to navigate relatively complex screens with multi-finger keystrokes to do what you can often do with one single keystroke in Windows, specific questions in a separate message, and it comes across that there are a lot of situations when a Windows screen reader would automate something that you have to tell VO to do. Be assured, I raise these points not in opposition to converting, I'm here because I'm seriously thinking that when this computer goes, the next one will be a Mac, but for others thinking of converting, I hope the answers people give to these points will reassure them and hopefully be reflected in some sort of
Re: How To Get VoiceOver To Read Mail Messages Automatically
Hi Mary; While the process to rearrange columns is somewhat annoying in my opinion, :) it is really a set it and forget it type of thing, so once you do it you really need not do it again. I.E. these settings will persist over newer versions of Mail as well as entire OS updates or restorations from backups. Here's an excerpt (below) from a post from Josh De Lioncourt on this, which is how I learned it. :) Thanks Josh! -Just a note of my own though, I'm actually able to avoid many of these steps now and simply do this free-hand with the trackpad as I have VO set to speak what's under the mouse with no delay. So I go to the top of the table as Josh says and route my mouse cursor to VO. then, I do everything else just by using the trackpad. VO allows me to locate the button I'd like, and I then hold down the trackpad button and move left or right, depending on where I'd like to move the column. There is guess work here with this approach though, as VO doesn't seem to want to read while I'm dragging, so I first note where the columns are currently, and then move appropriately. So Josh's solution may offer more feedback when you get to this point. Best of luck and enjoy! Smiles, Cara :) ---Josh's post follows--- If you're comfortable using the mouse or trackpad, you can actually do this on your own. I just figured out how. Here's the steps. Move to the top of the messages table and, while interacting with it, navigate to the status column, which is one of those that says blank. Then do this: 1. Move the mouse to VO cursor with VO-Command-F5 2. Lock the VO keys with VO-Semicolon 3. Move the mouse/trackpad slowly upward while repeatedly pressing F5 to hear what's under the mouse. Eventually, you will hear Status sort button. I don't know of anyway to get to these directly with VO, but VO does recognize them. These are the column headers and you will notice that they exist for all the columns. 4. Physically hold down the mouse button and slowly drag to the right. You will pass over the other sort buttons. If you move off course above or below, you can adjust and find the sort buttons again. Once you've passed all the columns, let go of the mouse button. You will know it is safe to do this because VO will report the Status Sort button is under your mouse instead of the others. It's not an elegant, or even great, solution, but it works if you're comfortable with the mouse. I drag-and-drop like this all the time when the VO DD doesn't get the job done. I just did this in mail and now have the Status column to the far right and out of the way. Josh de Lioncourt Mac-cessibility: http://www.Lioncourt.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/Lioncourt The rich declare themselves poor, And most of us are not sure, If we have too much, But we'll take our chances, 'cause God stopped keeping score. Praying for Time--George Michael --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Jun 17, 2010, at 2:18 PM, Mary Otten wrote: Hi Cara, In a recent message you noted that it is possible to reorder the columns in the messages table. I see in the view menu where you can eliminate some although message status isn't one of them, sadly. But I don't see where you can reorder them, e.g. I want subject first, furtherst to the left in the row, such that it will be the first thing read when moving through the table as you described to Dave. Tab to the preview pane, read the message, delete it and you're moved back to the messages table. then you have to listen to the message status and the sender's info before you hear the next subject. I'd like to not hear message status and would like subject prior to sender. Not a big deal unless you've got hundreds of emails backed up, I suppose. but it would be nice. Mary -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: How To Get VoiceOver To Read Mail Messages Automatically
NO problem Dave! :) -Glad I could help! this is one aspect of the Mac which is very important. The idea that there are several ways to do something doesn't need to be confusing. there are patterns in the system keystrokes on a Mac just like there are on Windows. -And, to be honest, these patterns are actually, in a manner of speaking, more universal on the Mac than on Windows. I.E. Windows Screen readers create the illusion of universality where none actually exists such as in the use of the enter key. while I'm not familiar with the latest versions of Windows, in Win 95 / 98 / XP, the enter key didn't actually open applications or shortcuts if one wasn't using Jaws or WindowEyes. Pressing enter on a shortcut on a Windows desktop used to actually bring up an edit field where you could type a new name for that shortcut. -And, incidentally, this is exactly the same behavior as on a Mac. The Windows screen readers changed some functionality which presented a visually impaired user with a faux sense of the universality of the OS. This isn't the case on the Mac. VO leaves the system keystrokes intact, and simply adds it's own layer of additional keystrokes a user can choose to work with if they like. this gives the added advantage that (if a visually impaired user chooses) they can more easily interact with sighted coworkers / friends / family because other Mac users will be more likely to be familiar with the type of universal keyboard commands for the system as they aren't specialized to the screen reader in use. Does this make sense?… This paradigm also allows one to seamlessly combine system commands and VO commands to achieve their goal as well. Finally, add to this, the ability to create automator / apple scripts which can involve VO and you can see that this can truly be a very powerful platform. Anyway, blah blah blah! :) -AGain, glad I could help and I hope all goes well for you in the presentation!… Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Jun 17, 2010, at 2:14 PM, Dave Taylor wrote: Now then. I suspected that was the case, but it amazes me that the demos tell you to do things entirely differently. This kind of description is exactly what we need more of. We need to make things as intuitive as possible. You've certainly given me just what I need to make sure our session works, so thank you. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cara Quinn Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 10:03 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: How To Get VoiceOver To Read Mail Messages Automatically Hi Dave; What you'd like to do in Mail on the Mac in Snow Leopard 10.6.4 with VO, is certainly doable. :) First, simply move to the messages table and then just use plain arrow keys (no VO keys necessary) to move through your message headers. This will read the sender and subject etc. as you move to each message in the table. YOu can also select or deselect as well as rearrange the displayed columns so you can customize what you'd like to hear in what order. Then, to read a message, you need only use the tab key and the message will read automatically. From here, if you delete the message, you'll be automatically placed back in the messages table with the next message highlighted, and you can again simply press tab to read that message. this is a very quick way to go through mail. If you choose not to delete a particular message, you can also use shift tab if you like, to get back to the message table as well, and then simply continue reading your mail as above. HTH and have a lovely day / evening!… Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Jun 17, 2010, at 10:35 AM, Dave Taylor wrote: Hi Quick Nav certainly sounds excellent but doesn't appear to mimic things like VO J. I in fact instigated the BCAB Apple day in July after Sight Village Birmingham which seems to be very popular, so will be doing exactly what you suggest as well. I'm asking so many questions right now in order to maximise the effectiveness of the day should many people's fears about the presenters be proved right. I don't know who they are but know the people sourcing them will be finding the best they can. Cheers Dave -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anne Robertson Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 6:18 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: How To Get VoiceOver To Read Mail Messages Automatically Has no one told you about Quick Nav? It sounds like what you're asking for. However, you won't get any idea of VoiceOver by just asking questions. If you can get to an Apple Store or Apple reseller, try one
Moderator Note - language / yelling through your keyboard
Hi All; while I know we all get a bit upset from time to time, let's please keep this a bit easy on the language. Okay?… I don't really mind the occasional bit of colorful language here and there for emphasis if need be, however, yelling through your keyboard I.E. throwing together a string of expletives (no matter how minor you think they may be) with no regard for who will be reading it is really not cool for this list. So please, just take a few breaths before hitting that send button and read over your message to see if it's really worth subjecting several hundred people to, okay? Does this make sense?… Thanks so much and do have a lovely day / evening, wherever you may be!… Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Mod note -was- Re: advanced documentation for voice over?
Hey All, just want to send along a quick reminder that while you're totally free and even encouraged to connect up with other members here for assistance and such, please do it off the list. Go ahead and respond privately to say 'hi' / 'thank you' or 'nice to see ya' etc. -KNow what I mean?… Connecting up is totally cool, just do it privately, K? Besides, it's more personal that way anyway. :) Thanks bunches and ya'll rock! Smiles, Cara :) On Aug 17, 2011, at 12:05 PM, Cody wrote: Looky looky, a blast from the passed. tammy cantrell from the reach center for the blind... - Original Message - From: Tammy Cantrell t.l.cantr...@comcast.net To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 2:40 PM Subject: Re: advanced documentation for voice over? I would appreciate having that book if you don't mind. Thanks! - Original Message - From: ezzie bueno ezziebu...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 12:20 PM Subject: re: advanced documentation for voice over? Hi! There's a VoiceOver: Getting Started book that will teach you more about VO. I can send it to you as an attachment if you're interested. Ezzie - Original Message - From: KliphSharrie skhleirpehctcoens7...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Date sent: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 10:56:29 -0500 Subject: advanced documentation for voice over? Okay, so I've had my mac for almost 3 months. And have learned a lot of the basics on my own, and by asking questions. Where can I get some advanced documentation on how to use voice over. I'm sure there are some things I don't know, and need to know. So where have all you learned the things you know? Thanks Kliphton SR (twitterSkype) kliphton72 (Marriage Blog) http://cm-i-t-real-world.blogspot.com (Marriage group) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/committed-married-christians http://groups.yahoo.com/group/committed-married-christians -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: more ram?
Hi James, and has this helped the busy issue? I can't tell from your message. So perhaps you could clarify and detail this a bit if you would? It sounds like you might have something valuable to share here, but the current brevity of the info in your below note just isn't getting that across to me. Sorry if I'm misunderstanding here. :) Thanks bunches and have a great day!… Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Aug 21, 2011, at 12:19 PM, james walton wrote: I have 8gb for my mini On Aug 21, 2011, at 2:28 PM, craig J Dunlop craigjdun...@gmail.com wrote: I got my macbook pro in April and upgraded to lion last week. It seams that the safari busy message comes more often.I am running 4gb of ram if I went to 8 ore 12 would that help the problem any? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Getting my first mac
Traci welcome! Nice to have you along for this ride! :) Congratulations on your Mac and very glad you found us. Do feel free to send along any questions / experiences you may have as you go. There are a lot of great and intelligent people here who are more than happy to help. All the best to you and enjoy the list!… Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Aug 21, 2011, at 10:57 AM, Traci wrote: Hello all, My name is Traci, I own an iPad, and this week I'll be receiving my first Mac. I chose the MacBook Air, 11.6, 1.8 processor. I'm so flippin' excited and a bit nervous making this move. I've done a lot of reading and listening over the last Months, however I'm still very open to all advice. Baby steps to your first Mac, *grin.* Having the iPad for the last year, I imagine I'll be using the trackpad a lot with the Air. It'll definitely feel more familiar to me. Anyway, thought I'd introduce myself; I'm looking forward to learning much from this list. TC, Traci -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Moderator note - Please read -was- Re: Immediate Need for VB.Net Developer in Indianapolis,IN
Hey All, Please do close this topic now, K? This posting was inappropriate here and the person has been banned. So let's move on now, K? My apologies for the spam. As general list policy, it's not okay to post solicitations, job offers, or advertisements of any kind here, without first talking to the moderator(s). Just a quick FYI. Have a great day All, and once again, so sorry for the list noise. Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Aug 22, 2011, at 8:05 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote: I doubt it, most mac lists are full of asp developers. On 22/08/2011, Maxwell Ivey Jr. maxwelli...@aol.com wrote: Hello Mr. Smith; are you sure you sent this to the correct email? Yes, I manage my own website, but I'm basically learning it as i go along and have no idea what web vp or orical are. have heard about ask but don't know it. I wish you luck. thank you, Max On Aug 22, 2011, at 9:54 AM, Ben smith wrote: Urgent Requirement for VB.Net Developer in Indianapolis,IN Please Send me resume to b...@catstaffing-us.com Job Title : VB.Net Developer Location: Indianapolis,IN Duration: 6 month contract Required Skills: VB.Net ASP.Net Queries to Oracle databases Visual Source Safe Ben Smith Sr.Technical Recruiter CAT Technology, Inc Hasbrouck Heights, NJ 07604 | b...@catstaffing-us.com Office: 201-257-5081 EXT : 217 | Fax: (201) 727 9296 www.catamerica.com | www.cattechnologies.com “Committed to Human Excellence - Thrum -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Moderator note -one-liners -was- Re: Immediate Need for VB.Net Developer in Indianapolis,IN
James and list; one liners like the below only contribute to the noise here. So please don't disrupt the group with them. The original post was inappropriate but your response, James, is just as much. Let the list mods take care of this sort of thing and we'll do it behind the scenes. I've already banned the poster in question so just let this one lie, K? Let's move on and in future, to everyone here, if you see a post that seems suspicious, you don't need to post about it. If you really need to say something to someone, then write the list moderators. and we'll deal with it off the list. If you'd like to reach me personally, please feel free to write to caraqu...@caraquinn.com or modelc...@gmail.com Have a great day and let's keep the great discussion flowing!!! Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Aug 22, 2011, at 8:01 AM, james Walton wrote: off topic -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Recommendation wanted for Jaws and Windows list like this one
Eric, no worries. YOu can feel free to ask your questions here. If you're using a Mac, and your questions have to do with that, then go right ahead and ask away. the only time questions might start to be off-topic would be when / if they merely ask about purely Windows or Jaws-specific material. From your note, that's not what you're asking, yes? It sounds to me that you're looking to get some assistance on using Windows / Jaws in regard to your Mac specifically?… If this is the case, then by all means, go ahead and ask here. Thanks for your note and have a terrific day!… Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Aug 24, 2011, at 4:12 PM, Eric Caron wrote: Dear list, This list is a amazing resource but sometimes I have off Topic questions because I use Windows and Jaws on my Mac. Can someone recommend a list of blind computer users that hopefully contain mac users who run Jaws. I'm sorry if I might be asking a in appropriate question. I hope I'm not. Basically is there a place where mac users can go to ask questions about using our macs with windows and related screen readers. Thanks everyone! Eric Caron -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Quick list policy change
Hello All; -Just a quick note to let you know that I've decided to moderate these two groups on my own once again. Let me just take a second here to thank Mark for his help in the interim. Mark had graciously offered his assistance for as long as I needed it and so here we are. :) Thank you Mark! So as of now, I'm the sole list moderator. So please do feel free to write me with any issues you may have. caraqu...@caraquinn.com or modelc...@gmail.com Thanks so much for reading, and please do have a lovely day / evening, wherever you may be! CQ out! :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Quick list policy change
Hello Alex, I'm posting this on-list so that everyone will understand why this policy is enacted. Put simply, people need to be approved to join this list to eliminate spam. Now, from time to time as some have seen here, we'll occasionally get a spam message or two. But the amount we've seen in the time this list has been in operation on Google Groups is really, really good. So unfortunately, (or fortunately) the list sign-up policy / procedure needs to stay as it is. thanks for your interest though and let me just encourage others to write privately with any other concerns / questions etc. Have a great night All, and talk with you soon!… Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Aug 25, 2011, at 5:34 PM, Alex Hall wrote: My only suggestion is what was discussed a few days ago: allow anyone to sign up for this list instead of requiring them to be approved on an individual basis. On 8/25/11, Cara Quinn modelc...@gmail.com wrote: Hello All; -Just a quick note to let you know that I've decided to moderate these two groups on my own once again. Let me just take a second here to thank Mark for his help in the interim. Mark had graciously offered his assistance for as long as I needed it and so here we are. :) Thank you Mark! So as of now, I'm the sole list moderator. So please do feel free to write me with any issues you may have. caraqu...@caraquinn.com or modelc...@gmail.com Thanks so much for reading, and please do have a lovely day / evening, wherever you may be! CQ out! :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from GMail website) mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Looktel Money Reader 2.0 and new Looktel Mailing list and Blog
Hello All; I wanted to share with you some news. I'd firstly like to give VIPhone and MacVisionaries a heads-up and let y'all know that the Looktel Money Reader version 2.0 will be officially released in the App Store tomorrow, Sept. 27, 2011 (tonight in some areas). Rather than just United States currencies, this version offers support for additional currencies such as the Euro, British Pound, and Canadian and Australian dollars. I'll also post the press release here as well, if someone doesn't beat me to it! :) Okay, so now on to the other news. Looktel also now has a blog and mailing list. You can find the mailing list at: http://groups.google.com/group/looktel and you can find the blog at: http://www.looktel.com/blog Everyone is welcome and encouraged to join the list and / or blog if you're interested in Looktel news or products. Both the blog and mailing list are meant for open user discussion and feedback as well as just being a place for users in this community to connect with each other. the blog will focus more on Looktel news / focused discussion and feedback while the mailing list is a more general community for people to chat and connect around our use of Looktel products. Thanks so much for letting me share this with you and I look forward to seeing you all on the blog and email list! I wish you all a lovely day / evening, wherever you may be! Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Looktel needs you!
Hey All, am forwarding this along to the list. Some of you may want to assist. Hope all is well with all of you and that you're starting off you're weekend wonderfully! Smiles, Cara :) --- September 30, 2011 LookTel has a need for people in Europe, Canada, Australia, and the U.K. who have Mac computers--especially with older MAC OSX versions, to test the new Mac version of the popular MoneyReader iPhone app. This version is now a beta version. LookTel hopes that the community of visually impaired Mac users who can test the Mac version of MoneyReader in other languages, and with older Macs will provide input as to how this new Mac version works with other supported languages, and with other currencies, including the Euro. If you can assist LookTel in these beta tests, please do contact us by signing up at: LookTel.com/betasignup Thank you for your interest! Gary W. Kelly, Human Factors Engineer LookTel.com --end of message-- --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Ejecting A Flash Drive
Hi Ezzie, if you bring up a context menu on the drive, you can choose the 'eject' option. YOu can either do a control click or VO-shift-M to bring up the context menu. HTH and have a lovely evening!… Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Oct 24, 2011, at 6:43 PM, ezzie bueno wrote: Hello Folks, How exactly am I supposed to eject a USB flash drive? I've tried Command E and that doesn't do it. I've looked : the menu bar, but do not see the option to eject. Any help is welcome. Thanks, Ezzie Ez Bueno Sent from my BrailleNote Apex Skype: sillyez Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/sillyez Google Talk: sill...@sillyez.com Google Plus: ezziebu...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/sillyez -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
NantWorks Object Recognition Technology Wins FCC Chairman's Award
thought the Money Reader users among us might find this interesting… Have a great day All! Smiles, Cara :) --- NantWorks Object Recognition Technology Wins FCC Chairman's Award An Early Win for Newly Formed NantWorks LLC, LookTel Turns a Smart Phone into a Device That Helps the Blind to See LOS ANGELES, Oct 27, 2011 (BUSINESS WIRE) NantWorks LLC, the company formed by Dr. Patrick Soon-Shiong in September this year, announced that its LookTel technology had been selected as a winner of the Federal Communications Commission's (FCC) Chairman's Awards for Advancements in Accessibility. The award, which recognizes outstanding efforts to advance communications accessibility for people with disabilities, will be presented at a ceremony at FCC headquarters in Washington D.C. on October 28th 2011. LookTel was developed for the blind and visually impaired. It enables a standard smart phone to be used to recognize objects such as currency bills, packaged goods, medication bottles, storefronts and landmarks. Recognition happens in real time, without delay, and the device will speak the identity of the object, for example the denomination of a bill. We are honored to have been chosen for this award from the FCC, said Dr. Soon-Shiong, and delighted to be able to bring forward this important recognition platform, which is going to make a difference to many people's lives. About NantWorks NantWorks LLC is a company founded and led by Dr. Patrick Soon-Shiong. Its mission is to converge semiconductor technology, supercomputing, advanced networks and augmented intelligence to transform how we work, play and live. Early applications will be in the field of scientific research and healthcare. For more information, see www.nantworks.com . SOURCE: NantWorks LLC NantWorks, LLC Jen Hodson 310 405 7539 jhod...@nantworks.com Copyright Business Wire 2011 View the MarketWatch story at: http://www.marketwatch.com/story/nantworks-object-recognition-technology-wins-fcc-chairmans-award-2011-10-27 --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Looktel Blog
Oops, forgot to post the bloggie link! For anyone interested, here's the post on the Looktel blog: http://www.looktel.com/blog/nantworks-object-recognition-technology-wins-fcc-chairmans-award have a great day! Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Looktel Blog
Rachel and list, just FYI, please do feel free to contact me whenever you'd like for list biz (either MacVisionaries or VIPhone) etc. at: caraqu...@caraquinn.com or modelc...@gmail.com Am also CC-ing this to VIPhone as well in case anyone there needs my addies too. Have a great weekend and talk with y'all soon!… Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Oct 27, 2011, at 5:57 PM, Rachel magario wrote: Cara, I could not find your email to talk off list, I had some questions about your post. Could you reply to me privately, please? Thanks, Rachel. On Oct 27, 2011, at 4:56 PM, Cara Quinn wrote: Oops, forgot to post the bloggie link! For anyone interested, here's the post on the Looktel blog: http://www.looktel.com/blog/nantworks-object-recognition-technology-wins-fcc-chairmans-award have a great day! Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: LookTell
Hello Eugenia, yes, general object recognition is definitely possible with the technology and is something that is in the works. Glad you found the press release interesting!… Have a great weekend!… Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Oct 28, 2011, at 5:56 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote: Hi Guys. I have a question about the information Cara sent. When I read the information, it said something about identification of packaged material, bottles, landmarks. I thought the LookTell program just did money. What are they talking about when they mention these other things? Is there another program that LookTell did for the iPhone that I don't know about? I just have the one on my iPhone that comes up saying Money Reader. It works better, by the way since they updated it again. I think it identifies U.S. dollars as fast as it did before. Regards, Gigi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Digit-eyes and the latest IPHone 4S?
Kevin, I have great results with Digit-Eyes and I've had great results before the iPHone 4. Yes, it's picky sometimes only because it can take time to find the bar code. This isn't DE's fault. This is the fact that bar codes are not placed in consistent locations. :) -Know what I mean?… Anyway, if you're thinking about it, I'd go ahead and go for it. It's certainly helped me out on several occasions. Thanks for your note and have a great weekend!… Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Oct 28, 2011, at 1:13 PM, Kevin Mattingly wrote: I didn't buy a copy of the digit-eyes software when it came out because of having an IPhone 3GS and seeing some e-mails from the group with not so gereat reviews with that phone. I now have an IPhone 4S and was wondering if anyone is having good results using the program before I go buy it. Kev -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Moderator note -was- Re: apology to the list. sorry!
Hello All, Firstly a happy Halloween to you! Okay so now on to list biz. There has been some questionable activity here of late, including posting of mp3 links which are, put simply, not legal. This is to say that those who download these are pirating them. I want you all to know that this sort of behavior is not tolerated here. -And, that we have a one-strike and you're out policy. So, in future, be aware of this. Simply put, if the material you're posting here on this list is not legally allowed to be shared with the general public then it's not allowed here. This also goes for tips on use of software in ways that it's not intended to be used. I.E. the thread regarding using OSX on non-Mac machines etc. The spirit of the law here is that this is not legal, and the letter of the law honestly isn't perfectly clear on this just yet, so as long as this is questionable in its legality, guess what, -It's off-limits here. -So again, this is not welcome here and will not be tolerated. So if you'd like to post something that you know is questionable or illegal, don't bother, if you'd like to stay on this list. :) -Know what I mean? If you'd like to post something here that you're not sure about, I.E. if you aren't sure if it's acceptable, then by all means, write me and ask. You can get in touch at: caraqu...@caraquinn.com or modelc...@gmail.com Now I'm sorry it's taken me this long to address these issues in the last few days, but quite honestly, y'all should know better! :) -Yes?… So thanks for reading and please do keep the conversation legit, intelligent and relevant, K? Ya'll rock and hope you've had a lovely / scary Hallown!!! Screams! Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Oct 31, 2011, at 5:38 PM, Eric Oyen wrote: I didn't see the original message, but I thought I should comment. offering to help with software or offering to acquire software is not a copyright offense UNLESS there is an offer to acquire it illegally or crack it to bypass copyright protections. also, US copyright laws are usually not enforceable in other countries unless there is a treaty in effect. now the man sent an email to the list when it was supposed to be sent to a private individual. now, is it a violation of apple's EULA for me to run their OS on unsupported hardware. technically yes. However, since I purchased the OS X disk (retail from apple) and there is case law stating that apple cannot keep me from running said software on unsupported hardware, I am not technically in violation of the law.now, apple is not going to bring a case against me for this because it benefits them for me to do so (I debug drivers and find problems, which get reported to the apple dev team). this allows apple to better evaluate their code and make corrections or remove bugs. also, there was a recent appellate court ruling that narrows the scope of DMCA, thus allowing me to be able to run the OS where I want it simply because I own the dvd upon which the OS installer files are placed. I am not a lawyer, so it is suggested that you check with one over any of the points made. end of off topic post )and thread I hope). -Eric On Oct 31, 2011, at 5:20 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote: Hi, What would you rather he do instead? On 01/11/2011, Kristyn Leigh krist...@gmail.com wrote: An apology is not sufficient for providing illegal versions of copyrighted materials to anyone. Perhaps the folks in the legal department at Audible would like to respond to your offer. On Oct 29, 2011, at 7:38 PM, Nektarios Mallas wrote: Guys, I posted a message to the list by accident a minute ago. I understand that it is impossible to take it bak, so please disregard it. I am sorry, I meant to send this to another person. Apologies. Nektarios. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Kristyn Leigh Sent from my mini Mac krist...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For
Czech, Dutch and Hungarian speakers, would you like to assist Looktel?
Hi All! Looktel needs a few quick translations for Money Reader in the next couple of days. Might we have anyone interested? We need a Czech translation, a Dutch translation, and a Hungarian translation. there are a few simple phrases which I'd send you in English, and then you could simply send me back your translations via email. If you'd like to be a part of a ground-breaking project like Money Reader, then by all means, do write me back! :) Thanks so much for reading! Have a terrific day and talk with you all soon!… Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
