Re: [MBZ] Holy mother of crack

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Then it would be a

1971 mercedes 300SEL 5.7 RARE!

--R

On 9/1/15 7:41 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

I expected to see they dropped a small block Chevy in it.

1971 mercedes 300SEL 6.3 RARE!
http://tulsa.craigslist.org/cto/5200943467.html

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Re: [MBZ] OT: C-47 glider towing

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

From a cinematography standpoint "The Longest Day" is typical of its vintage. 
Most of it was shot on a sound stage. "Saving Private Ryan" has a much more 
"real" look and of course the sound design is 20 years more advanced.
The stuff with the Duke is pretty sappy too, again typical of his acting style 
and the time.
-Curt

  From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 To: Okie Benz  
Cc: Dan Penoff  
 Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2015 10:03 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: C-47 glider towing
   
As someone mentioned previously, if you ever watched “The Longest Day”, which 
is probably one of the best ever movies made about D-Day, you would have seen 
numerous references to gliders.

If you haven’t see the movie I highly advise doing so.  It’s well done and 
pretty historically accurate.

I saw some of “Patton” the other day.  I love that guy.

Dan





> On Sep 3, 2015, at 9:58 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Every new generation has to learn different things. If I'd learned the same 
> thing in school as Scott I'd have missed decades of advancement. Remember the 
> old people when you were a kid were also saying "kids these days!"
> IIRC there was some famous greek that published something on kids and their 
> weird music. It reads like it was written yesterday.
> -Curt
>      From: Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
> To: Mercedes Discussion List  
> Cc: Mitch Haley  
> Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2015 9:49 AM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: C-47 glider towing
> 
> 
> 
>> On September 2, 2015 at 11:29 PM Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>>  I am surprised that any American did not know about this effort but
>> I guess much has changed since I went to school.  But maybe that explains
>> much.
> 
> My memory is no longer fantastic, but the only military gliders I remember 
> from
> my childhood
> were the imaginary ones that an enlisted guy in M*A*S*H shot down, capturing
> imaginary
> prisoners and getting himself a nonimaginary mental health discharge in the
> process. 
> 
> Mitch.
> 
> 
> 


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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I do, but they’re adults.  If we were going to someplace together, I could get 
one of them to drive.  It just doesn’t happen that often any more.

Dan


> On Sep 3, 2015, at 10:24 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I thought you had sons.
> Once I started driving my dad hardly ever drove anywhere. If we'd had an SDL 
> he'd have been in back sleeping...
> -Curt
> 


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Re: [MBZ] Pelican Parts

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

This is the second time I’ve heard this dreck from them.

I find this to be questionably bogus in that I see no reason why they can’t go 
surface, like any other hazmat item can, in the USPS.  I can’t imagine that CA 
laws override Federal ones for something like this.

I shipped a seat belt with a squib in it the other day via USPS parcel post. 
When the counter guy asked me why I didn’t want to use Priority Mail, I told 
him the package had explosives in it (describing exactly what it was) and he 
agreed that it had to go surface.

Dan

> On Sep 3, 2015, at 10:55 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Pelican Parts just called to tell me they cannot ship nitrogen chambers (CA
> hazmat rules) so the entire order had to be canceled.  Bummer.
> 
> What's the name of the cheapo parts place in NC?
> 
> On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 11:09 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
> wrote:
> 
>> I just placed my first order from the online Pelican catalog.  Very
>> pleasant experience!  Easy to find my parts. Prices are comparable to
>> Autohaus, and free ground shipping takes just 4 days as opposed to 7.
>> Check it out.
>> 
>> 2 Febi Bilstein nitrogen chambers @ $93/75
>> 2 liters Febi Bilstein sls fluid @ $10.25
>> One SLS pump gsket @ $.75
>> 
>> Andrew
>> 1983 300TD - New rear flex hose, fluid still dirty
>> 1985 300TD Bouncy ride soon to be addressed.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

You really could do a much better job in replying to the pertinent message.
Spoken like a non-outdoorsman. You have no idea about rabbits at all, you've 
never seen them bite one another to chase of an interloper, you've never seen 
them attacked and killed by dogs or cats. You don't even bother to check if 
your local park has a trapping program because they already have too many 
rabbits. Your plan is just to dump your problems and let somebody else take 
care of them...
-Curt

  From: Andrew Strasfogel 
 To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List 
 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2015 11:03 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring
   
A solitary rabbit that eats almost anything will survive just fine in a 
park-like setting.



On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 5:45 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Not a bad idea. A couple years ago I caught a ver small mouse sitting on top of 
the trap eating the cheese without setting it off...
-Curt

      From: Randy Bennell 
 To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List 

 Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2015 5:35 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

On 01/09/2015 3:36 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:


> Bunnies eat mint leaves?
> I've been using almond slivers for the chipmunks. Walnuts probably attract 
> them better but I have a bag of stale almond slivers and they glue onto the 
> trap really well.
> -Curt
>   
>
>
Fellow out at the lake suggests using thread and tying a raisin onto the
trap. The mouse has to work at it to get it and that sets off the trap.
We have been using peanut butter but the devils can lick it out of the
trap without setting it off unless I use the crunchy style and push the
nut pieces into the bait holder really good.


RB



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Re: [MBZ] OT: C-47 glider towing

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Every new generation has to learn different things. If I'd learned the same 
thing in school as Scott I'd have missed decades of advancement. Remember the 
old people when you were a kid were also saying "kids these days!"
IIRC there was some famous greek that published something on kids and their 
weird music. It reads like it was written yesterday.
-Curt
  From: Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
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Cc: Mitch Haley  
 Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2015 9:49 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: C-47 glider towing
   


> On September 2, 2015 at 11:29 PM Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>  I am surprised that any American did not know about this effort but
> I guess much has changed since I went to school.  But maybe that explains
> much.

My memory is no longer fantastic, but the only military gliders I remember from
my childhood
were the imaginary ones that an enlisted guy in M*A*S*H shot down, capturing
imaginary
prisoners and getting himself a nonimaginary mental health discharge in the
process. 

Mitch.



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Re: [MBZ] OT: C-47 glider towing

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

As someone mentioned previously, if you ever watched “The Longest Day”, which 
is probably one of the best ever movies made about D-Day, you would have seen 
numerous references to gliders.

If you haven’t see the movie I highly advise doing so.  It’s well done and 
pretty historically accurate.

I saw some of “Patton” the other day.  I love that guy.

Dan



> On Sep 3, 2015, at 9:58 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Every new generation has to learn different things. If I'd learned the same 
> thing in school as Scott I'd have missed decades of advancement. Remember the 
> old people when you were a kid were also saying "kids these days!"
> IIRC there was some famous greek that published something on kids and their 
> weird music. It reads like it was written yesterday.
> -Curt
>  From: Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
> To: Mercedes Discussion List  
> Cc: Mitch Haley  
> Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2015 9:49 AM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: C-47 glider towing
> 
> 
> 
>> On September 2, 2015 at 11:29 PM Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>>   I am surprised that any American did not know about this effort but
>> I guess much has changed since I went to school.  But maybe that explains
>> much.
> 
> My memory is no longer fantastic, but the only military gliders I remember 
> from
> my childhood
> were the imaginary ones that an enlisted guy in M*A*S*H shot down, capturing
> imaginary
> prisoners and getting himself a nonimaginary mental health discharge in the
> process. 
> 
> Mitch.
> 
> 
> 


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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Yeah, I need to get more information from him so I can get an idea of condition.

I saw the car briefly when I picked up the S420, but since it wasn’t on my 
radar at the time I didn’t really look at it closely.

He’ll have a boatload of stuff he’s done to it, no doubt, just as he did with 
his other cars.  Fortunately, he takes the time to research his cars in detail 
and then targets the areas that are known to be problematic.

To give you an idea, he bought a 1998 S420 two years ago from the original 
owner with 102,000 on the clock. Dealer maintained, all service records, etc.  
Here’s a list of what he’s done since he bought it:

New (old) MB metal cam oilers/valve cover gaskets. And since we were in there 
replaced: timing chain guides/rails
New Michelins
New brake pads/rotors (Brembo ceramics all the way around, Brembo rotors on 
front & ATE on rear)
B Service at 120,000 miles
Serviced transmission and replaced differential fluid
Painted front & rear bumpers along with bottom plastic rocker panels simply for 
a “refresh”.
ProgRama Inc Rebuilt Vac pump (under rear seat) 
Replaced both seat bladders
Replaced passenger side window regulator
Replaced horn
New battery from MB
Replaced child seat sensor in passenger seat
Replaced rear sway bar links/bushings
Applied 3M invisible protection to both headlamps
Replaced front shocks with Sachs Boge along with sway bar bushings/links

He said the only thing it needs at this point are upper control arms and ball 
joints, he thinks.  He said he noticed some cracks in the rubber bits.

He’s asking $6800 for it, which might be a little on the high side, but not 
much considering it’s so well sorted out.  A really nice car for someone that 
wants a nice W140 that’s been well cared for and has minimal or no issues.

I asked him to give me the rundown on the SDL.  I’ll post it here when I get it 
for further inspection.

The sort of sad thing abut having a long wheelbase car like this is that you 
never get to ride in back….

Dan


> On Sep 3, 2015, at 10:08 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> In general, Dan, the SDL is everything you love about these cars.  You need
> to get your hands on this one, it sounds great.  Well maintained cars are
> in big demand and get very high prices.
> 
> I'd love to have another myself!
> 
> Jaime
> 
> 
> On Thursday, September 3, 2015, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> The head was replaced and the engine rebuilt at some time in the car’s
>> past.  I don’t have details yet but I’m getting them shortly.  He says
>> there’s a good 3" thick file folder of service records.
>> 
>> This guy buys really, really nice examples of MBs and then spends whatever
>> necessary to bring them up to 110%.  He’s done this with the intent to keep
>> them, but his business is growing exponentially and he started a family
>> recently.  As you might expect, time available for MB fun and games has
>> pretty much evaporated, so he’s thinning out the herd.
>> 
>> He’s the one I bought the 94 S420 from.  It’s not perfect, but it’s
>> certainly one of the nicest W140s I’ve seen of its vintage in a long time.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 3, 2015, at 7:16 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
>>> 
>>> No, just considering this as a second car if the price would be right.
>>> 
>>> Why, you want the S430?
>>> 
>>> I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again:
>>> 
>>> After the W140 Mercedes became a commodity, I think.  The styling does
>> nothing to distinguish the cars from any others on the road.  The fit and
>> finish isn’t that great, and the build quality is so-so.  Interiors look
>> fake and plasticky, not luxurious.
>>> 
>>> The S430 is a good car, and I’m happy with it as transportation, but
>> unlike models that preceded it, it has no soul.
>>> 
>>> Dan
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Sep 2, 2015, at 9:44 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
 
 You gonna unload the S430?
 
 --R (sent from my miniPad)
 
 On Sep 2, 2015, at 8:39 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
 
 The guy I got my 1994 S420 has a 300SDL he’s looking to get rid of.
>> Like the S420, he poured far more money into it than he did driving time,
>> and it was supposedly as nice or nicer than the S420 when he bought it a
>> few years ago.
 
 This isn’t the rodbender, is it? What should I look for/ask about?  I
>> know the W126 chassis well, but not the M603 engine or relatedc running
>> gear.
 
 I may take a look at it in a week or two.  I would really like to get
>> back into a W126, and even better, a diesel.  Back to a simpler time….
 
 Dan
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL?

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

What is soul?  I don't know...

Soul is a ham hock in your corn flakes!

--R



On 9/3/15 9:49 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

How does a car get soul, Dan?  If I drive it to a funeral?

On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 9:01 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


The head was replaced and the engine rebuilt at some time in the car’s
past.  I don’t have details yet but I’m getting them shortly.  He says
there’s a good 3" thick file folder of service records.

This guy buys really, really nice examples of MBs and then spends whatever
necessary to bring them up to 110%.  He’s done this with the intent to keep
them, but his business is growing exponentially and he started a family
recently.  As you might expect, time available for MB fun and games has
pretty much evaporated, so he’s thinning out the herd.

He’s the one I bought the 94 S420 from.  It’s not perfect, but it’s
certainly one of the nicest W140s I’ve seen of its vintage in a long time.

Dan




On Sep 3, 2015, at 7:16 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

No, just considering this as a second car if the price would be right.

Why, you want the S430?

I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again:

After the W140 Mercedes became a commodity, I think.  The styling does

nothing to distinguish the cars from any others on the road.  The fit and
finish isn’t that great, and the build quality is so-so.  Interiors look
fake and plasticky, not luxurious.

The S430 is a good car, and I’m happy with it as transportation, but

unlike models that preceded it, it has no soul.

Dan




On Sep 2, 2015, at 9:44 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

You gonna unload the S430?

--R (sent from my miniPad)

On Sep 2, 2015, at 8:39 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

The guy I got my 1994 S420 has a 300SDL he’s looking to get rid of.

Like the S420, he poured far more money into it than he did driving time,
and it was supposedly as nice or nicer than the S420 when he bought it a
few years ago.

This isn’t the rodbender, is it? What should I look for/ask about?  I

know the W126 chassis well, but not the M603 engine or relatedc running
gear.

I may take a look at it in a week or two.  I would really like to get

back into a W126, and even better, a diesel.  Back to a simpler time….

Dan



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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL?

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Car souls are issued by the Car God doesn't everyone know that?

In the old days, when cars were built by real men, such things happened..
now that cars are built by committee and EPA regulations, souls are not
issued at birth, and have been deemed "politically incorrect" due to their
carbon footprint.

You know you are driving a car with a soul when you slam the accelerator to
the floor and the first conscious though you are capable of is "Ohhh
God!"...

On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 6:49 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> How does a car get soul, Dan?  If I drive it to a funeral?
>
> On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 9:01 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > The head was replaced and the engine rebuilt at some time in the car’s
> > past.  I don’t have details yet but I’m getting them shortly.  He says
> > there’s a good 3" thick file folder of service records.
> >
> > This guy buys really, really nice examples of MBs and then spends
> whatever
> > necessary to bring them up to 110%.  He’s done this with the intent to
> keep
> > them, but his business is growing exponentially and he started a family
> > recently.  As you might expect, time available for MB fun and games has
> > pretty much evaporated, so he’s thinning out the herd.
> >
> > He’s the one I bought the 94 S420 from.  It’s not perfect, but it’s
> > certainly one of the nicest W140s I’ve seen of its vintage in a long
> time.
> >
> > Dan
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Sep 3, 2015, at 7:16 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > No, just considering this as a second car if the price would be right.
> > >
> > > Why, you want the S430?
> > >
> > > I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again:
> > >
> > > After the W140 Mercedes became a commodity, I think.  The styling does
> > nothing to distinguish the cars from any others on the road.  The fit and
> > finish isn’t that great, and the build quality is so-so.  Interiors look
> > fake and plasticky, not luxurious.
> > >
> > > The S430 is a good car, and I’m happy with it as transportation, but
> > unlike models that preceded it, it has no soul.
> > >
> > > Dan
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> On Sep 2, 2015, at 9:44 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> You gonna unload the S430?
> > >>
> > >> --R (sent from my miniPad)
> > >>
> > >> On Sep 2, 2015, at 8:39 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> The guy I got my 1994 S420 has a 300SDL he’s looking to get rid of.
> > Like the S420, he poured far more money into it than he did driving time,
> > and it was supposedly as nice or nicer than the S420 when he bought it a
> > few years ago.
> > >>
> > >> This isn’t the rodbender, is it? What should I look for/ask about?  I
> > know the W126 chassis well, but not the M603 engine or relatedc running
> > gear.
> > >>
> > >> I may take a look at it in a week or two.  I would really like to get
> > back into a W126, and even better, a diesel.  Back to a simpler time….
> > >>
> > >> Dan
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: C-47 glider towing

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I would agree.

From a purely historical standpoint, and as far as getting a really good 
overview of the scale of the operation, “The Longest Day” does a good job I 
think.

“Saving Private Ryan” is good, to, but the realism is sort of jarring.  That’s 
not a bad thing, just an observation.

Dan


> On Sep 3, 2015, at 10:17 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> From a cinematography standpoint "The Longest Day" is typical of its vintage. 
> Most of it was shot on a sound stage. "Saving Private Ryan" has a much more 
> "real" look and of course the sound design is 20 years more advanced.
> The stuff with the Duke is pretty sappy too, again typical of his acting 
> style and the time.
> -Curt
> 
>

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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL?

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I thought you had sons.
Once I started driving my dad hardly ever drove anywhere. If we'd had an SDL 
he'd have been in back sleeping...
-Curt

  From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 To: Okie Benz  
Cc: Dan Penoff  
 Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2015 10:20 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SDL?
   
Yeah, I need to get more information from him so I can get an idea of condition.

I saw the car briefly when I picked up the S420, but since it wasn’t on my 
radar at the time I didn’t really look at it closely.

He’ll have a boatload of stuff he’s done to it, no doubt, just as he did with 
his other cars.  Fortunately, he takes the time to research his cars in detail 
and then targets the areas that are known to be problematic.

To give you an idea, he bought a 1998 S420 two years ago from the original 
owner with 102,000 on the clock. Dealer maintained, all service records, etc.  
Here’s a list of what he’s done since he bought it:

New (old) MB metal cam oilers/valve cover gaskets. And since we were in there 
replaced: timing chain guides/rails
New Michelins
New brake pads/rotors (Brembo ceramics all the way around, Brembo rotors on 
front & ATE on rear)
B Service at 120,000 miles
Serviced transmission and replaced differential fluid
Painted front & rear bumpers along with bottom plastic rocker panels simply for 
a “refresh”.
ProgRama Inc Rebuilt Vac pump (under rear seat) 
Replaced both seat bladders
Replaced passenger side window regulator
Replaced horn
New battery from MB
Replaced child seat sensor in passenger seat
Replaced rear sway bar links/bushings
Applied 3M invisible protection to both headlamps
Replaced front shocks with Sachs Boge along with sway bar bushings/links

He said the only thing it needs at this point are upper control arms and ball 
joints, he thinks.  He said he noticed some cracks in the rubber bits.

He’s asking $6800 for it, which might be a little on the high side, but not 
much considering it’s so well sorted out.  A really nice car for someone that 
wants a nice W140 that’s been well cared for and has minimal or no issues.

I asked him to give me the rundown on the SDL.  I’ll post it here when I get it 
for further inspection.

The sort of sad thing abut having a long wheelbase car like this is that you 
never get to ride in back….

Dan


> On Sep 3, 2015, at 10:08 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> In general, Dan, the SDL is everything you love about these cars.  You need
> to get your hands on this one, it sounds great.  Well maintained cars are
> in big demand and get very high prices.
> 
> I'd love to have another myself!
> 
> Jaime
> 
> 
> On Thursday, September 3, 2015, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> The head was replaced and the engine rebuilt at some time in the car’s
>> past.  I don’t have details yet but I’m getting them shortly.  He says
>> there’s a good 3" thick file folder of service records.
>> 
>> This guy buys really, really nice examples of MBs and then spends whatever
>> necessary to bring them up to 110%.  He’s done this with the intent to keep
>> them, but his business is growing exponentially and he started a family
>> recently.  As you might expect, time available for MB fun and games has
>> pretty much evaporated, so he’s thinning out the herd.
>> 
>> He’s the one I bought the 94 S420 from.  It’s not perfect, but it’s
>> certainly one of the nicest W140s I’ve seen of its vintage in a long time.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 3, 2015, at 7:16 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
>>> 
>>> No, just considering this as a second car if the price would be right.
>>> 
>>> Why, you want the S430?
>>> 
>>> I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again:
>>> 
>>> After the W140 Mercedes became a commodity, I think.  The styling does
>> nothing to distinguish the cars from any others on the road.  The fit and
>> finish isn’t that great, and the build quality is so-so.  Interiors look
>> fake and plasticky, not luxurious.
>>> 
>>> The S430 is a good car, and I’m happy with it as transportation, but
>> unlike models that preceded it, it has no soul.
>>> 
>>> Dan
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Sep 2, 2015, at 9:44 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
 
 You gonna unload the S430?
 
 --R (sent from my miniPad)
 
 On Sep 2, 2015, at 8:39 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
 
 The guy I got my 1994 S420 has a 300SDL he’s looking to get rid of.
>> Like the S420, he poured far more money into it than he did driving time,
>> and it was supposedly as nice or nicer than the S420 when he bought it a
>> few years ago.
 
 This isn’t the rodbender, is it? What should I look for/ask about?  I
>> know the W126 chassis well, but not the M603 engine or relatedc running
>> gear.
 
 I may take a look 

Re: [MBZ] OT: C-47 glider towing

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Wait! WAIT!  Are you dissing The Duke?  What are you, some kinda g.d. 
commie pinko red?  Come on, boy, speak up!  IMA TAWKIN TA YOU  DO 
YOU HATE ELVIS TOO


What is this world coming to

--R


On 9/3/15 10:17 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

 From a cinematography standpoint "The Longest Day" is typical of its vintage. Most of it was shot 
on a sound stage. "Saving Private Ryan" has a much more "real" look and of course the 
sound design is 20 years more advanced.
The stuff with the Duke is pretty sappy too, again typical of his acting style 
and the time.
-Curt



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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL?

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

By my count Dan has purchased 13 clean, one owner1993 - 1999 MB S class
sedans in the past 6 months, all with at least 5' of leg room, each one
$$thousands below KBB, all within an easy drive of Tampa.

On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 10:35 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I do, but they’re adults.  If we were going to someplace together, I could
> get one of them to drive.  It just doesn’t happen that often any more.
>
> Dan
>
>
> > On Sep 3, 2015, at 10:24 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I thought you had sons.
> > Once I started driving my dad hardly ever drove anywhere. If we'd had an
> SDL he'd have been in back sleeping...
> > -Curt
> >
>
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Re: [MBZ] Pelican Parts

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Thanks, Mitch but their price is exactly DOUBLE that of Pelican.

On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
>
> > On September 3, 2015 at 10:55 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> >
> >
> > Pelican Parts just called to tell me they cannot ship nitrogen chambers
> (CA
> > hazmat rules) so the entire order had to be canceled.  Bummer.
> >
> > What's the name of the cheapo parts place in NC?
>
>
>
>
> http://mbnorthlakeparts.com/parts/1985/Mercedes-Benz/300TD/?siteid=217496=90674=REAR%20SUSPENSION
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Re: [MBZ] Pelican Parts

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Pelican Parts' policy is regardless of delivery type but they are in
negotiation with Fedex, which has a hazmat license (?), to be able to ship
with them via air or ground.

On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
>
> > On September 3, 2015 at 10:55 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> >
> >
> > Pelican Parts just called to tell me they cannot ship nitrogen chambers
> (CA
> > hazmat rules) so the entire order had to be canceled.  Bummer.
> >
> > What's the name of the cheapo parts place in NC?
>
>
>
>
> http://mbnorthlakeparts.com/parts/1985/Mercedes-Benz/300TD/?siteid=217496=90674=REAR%20SUSPENSION
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Re: [MBZ] Wtf is this guy thinking?

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

He is a crack head?  What is "HHT"?  I looked at those things on eBay, 
looks like for $600 you get the computer and the connector and all the 
S/W to run all the diagnostics on newer cars, even wi-fi connectors to 
the OBD or bus or whatever.


--R

On 9/2/15 8:13 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:


mercedes HHT diagnostic tester
http://dallas.craigslist.org/mdf/tls/5203234671.html

via cPro Craigslist App
iOS: http://tinyurl.com/CL-iDevice
Android: http://tinyurl.com/CL-Android


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Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Rabbit food is ubiquitous so he/she won't starve.

That being said, since he/she isn't interested in the bait this discussion
is pretty academic.  It's all about the chase.



On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 11:02 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I didn't realize you were thinking a few hundred yards away. In that case
> you're merely wasting your time, that rabbit is back at your place before
> you are...
> If you really want to just protect your garden get real with your fence.
> If you really want rabbits removed then kill them. Thats the only real
> solution.
> When you move an animal into new territory (real new territory, miles
> away) it will die. It will either be killed by predators since it doesn't
> know where to hide, or it will starve or dehydrate or get hit by a car
> trying to follow you home.What I'm saying in that situation is that you've
> doomed the animal to die even if you aren't actually personally doing the
> killing. Since your method means in most cases the animal will suffer a
> slow and painful death please explain how it is more humane than a pellet
> to the head?
> -Curt
>
>   From: Andrew Strasfogel 
>  To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>  Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2015 10:50 AM
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring
>
> I am not into "saving" the bunny.  I am merely protecting the hard work
> and investment in a small vegetable garden by attempting - fruitlesslly so
> far - to humanely a wabbit and move him a few hundred yards away to a new
> site.  How is this worse than killing and eating it?
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 10:39 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> Are we speaking a different language?
> I'm saying that in your example the rabbit dies either way. If you really
> want to save his life leave him alone but don't go being all smug that
> you've "Saved the little bunny" what you've done is doomed him to a short
> life of pain and terror. Where my pellet gun ends his life cleanly with
> little pain. I'm a man, I do the killing myself. You farm it out to
> somebody else and then claim it isn't happening.
> Are you sure you don't work in the healthcare system?
>
> -Curt
>   From: Andrew Strasfogel 
>  To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>  Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2015 10:31 AM
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring
>
> So what you're basically saying is that I need to slaughter anything that
> moves in order to relieve it of suffering.
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> You really could do a much better job in replying to the pertinent message.
> Spoken like a non-outdoorsman. You have no idea about rabbits at all,
> you've never seen them bite one another to chase of an interloper, you've
> never seen them attacked and killed by dogs or cats. You don't even bother
> to check if your local park has a trapping program because they already
> have too many rabbits. Your plan is just to dump your problems and let
> somebody else take care of them...
> -Curt
>
>   From: Andrew Strasfogel 
>  To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>  Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2015 11:03 PM
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring
>
> A solitary rabbit that eats almost anything will survive just fine in a
> park-like setting.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 5:45 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> Not a bad idea. A couple years ago I caught a ver small mouse sitting on
> top of the trap eating the cheese without setting it off...
> -Curt
>
>   From: Randy Bennell 
>  To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>  Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2015 5:35 PM
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring
>
> On 01/09/2015 3:36 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>
>
> > Bunnies eat mint leaves?
> > I've been using almond slivers for the chipmunks. Walnuts probably
> attract them better but I have a bag of stale almond slivers and they glue
> onto the trap really well.
> > -Curt
> >
> >
> >
> Fellow out at the lake suggests using thread and tying a raisin onto the
> trap. The mouse has to work at it to get it and that sets off the trap.
> We have been using peanut butter but the devils can lick it out of the
> trap without setting it off unless I use the crunchy style and push the
> nut pieces into the bait holder really good.
>
>
> RB
>
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Re: [MBZ] Wtf is this guy thinking?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

The HHT is a hand held tester once used to read codes and troubleshoot the 
early OBD system that MB had in the early 90s using the 38 pin plug.  They 
later incorporated the HHT using emulation in the DAS/Xentry software, the 
stuff you can buy on Alibaba for $300 with the cables and multiplexer.

In other words, it’s pretty much worthless unless you’re jonesing for the 
original equipment used by Mercedes.

Definitely some serious crack smoking going on there.  Even when you could 
still buy these new they could be found for as little as $1000 if you shopped 
around.  I can’t imagine where they’re getting the numbers from, possibly a 
bodily orifice?

Dan



> On Sep 3, 2015, at 9:52 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> He is a crack head?  What is "HHT"?  I looked at those things on eBay, looks 
> like for $600 you get the computer and the connector and all the S/W to run 
> all the diagnostics on newer cars, even wi-fi connectors to the OBD or bus or 
> whatever.
> 
> --R
> 
> On 9/2/15 8:13 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> 
>> mercedes HHT diagnostic tester
>> http://dallas.craigslist.org/mdf/tls/5203234671.html
>> 
>> via cPro Craigslist App
>> iOS: http://tinyurl.com/CL-iDevice
>> Android: http://tinyurl.com/CL-Android
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: C-47 glider towing

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Wow.  I have, and it was really painful to watch. Oy.

Dan


> On Sep 3, 2015, at 10:43 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Have you seen him playing Genghis 
> Khan?http://cdn.zmescience.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/johnwayne-art.jpg
> 
> 
> -Curt
>  From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com 
> Cc: Rich Thomas  
> Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2015 10:40 AM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: C-47 glider towing
> 
> Wait! WAIT!  Are you dissing The Duke?  What are you, some kinda g.d. 
> commie pinko red?  Come on, boy, speak up!  IMA TAWKIN TA YOU  DO 
> YOU HATE ELVIS TOO
> 
> What is this world coming to
> 
> --R
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 9/3/15 10:17 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>>   From a cinematography standpoint "The Longest Day" is typical of its 
>> vintage. Most of it was shot on a sound stage. "Saving Private Ryan" has a 
>> much more "real" look and of course the sound design is 20 years more 
>> advanced.
>> The stuff with the Duke is pretty sappy too, again typical of his acting 
>> style and the time.
>> -Curt
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL?

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

I thought you had sons.
Once I started driving my dad hardly ever drove anywhere. If we'd 
had an SDL he'd have been in back sleeping...

-Curt




Yep, the back seat  of an SDL is great.  My son never complained 
about riding in the back seat of the SDL.  at 12, my daughter refused 
to ride in the back seat of the escort (Diesel)  I bought the SDL so 
the kids would be comfortable on the back seat on long trips.  My 
Daughter LOVED the back seat of the SDL.  Even in college, she wanted 
to go along on family trips.  She'd recline the back seat and sleep 
most of the way, or sit in the back and pick up wifi on her computer 
as we travelled.


On one trip back from the gulf coast, I was sicker than a dog, and 
spent the 1000+ miles in the back seat as the women drove through 
snow and ice and took the long way around to avoid the worst of the 
snow and ice.


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Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I am not into "saving" the bunny.  I am merely protecting the hard work and
investment in a small vegetable garden by attempting - fruitlesslly so far
- to humanely a wabbit and move him a few hundred yards away to a new
site.  How is this worse than killing and eating it?

On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 10:39 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Are we speaking a different language?
> I'm saying that in your example the rabbit dies either way. If you really
> want to save his life leave him alone but don't go being all smug that
> you've "Saved the little bunny" what you've done is doomed him to a short
> life of pain and terror. Where my pellet gun ends his life cleanly with
> little pain. I'm a man, I do the killing myself. You farm it out to
> somebody else and then claim it isn't happening.
> Are you sure you don't work in the healthcare system?
>
> -Curt
>   From: Andrew Strasfogel 
>  To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>  Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2015 10:31 AM
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring
>
> So what you're basically saying is that I need to slaughter anything that
> moves in order to relieve it of suffering.
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> You really could do a much better job in replying to the pertinent message.
> Spoken like a non-outdoorsman. You have no idea about rabbits at all,
> you've never seen them bite one another to chase of an interloper, you've
> never seen them attacked and killed by dogs or cats. You don't even bother
> to check if your local park has a trapping program because they already
> have too many rabbits. Your plan is just to dump your problems and let
> somebody else take care of them...
> -Curt
>
>   From: Andrew Strasfogel 
>  To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>  Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2015 11:03 PM
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring
>
> A solitary rabbit that eats almost anything will survive just fine in a
> park-like setting.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 5:45 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> Not a bad idea. A couple years ago I caught a ver small mouse sitting on
> top of the trap eating the cheese without setting it off...
> -Curt
>
>   From: Randy Bennell 
>  To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>  Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2015 5:35 PM
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring
>
> On 01/09/2015 3:36 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>
>
> > Bunnies eat mint leaves?
> > I've been using almond slivers for the chipmunks. Walnuts probably
> attract them better but I have a bag of stale almond slivers and they glue
> onto the trap really well.
> > -Curt
> >
> >
> >
> Fellow out at the lake suggests using thread and tying a raisin onto the
> trap. The mouse has to work at it to get it and that sets off the trap.
> We have been using peanut butter but the devils can lick it out of the
> trap without setting it off unless I use the crunchy style and push the
> nut pieces into the bait holder really good.
>
>
> RB
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Pelican Parts

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

How does the price for something you can't get matter?
  From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
 To: Mitch Haley ; Mercedes Discussion List 
 
Cc: Andrew Strasfogel  
 Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2015 11:32 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Pelican Parts
   
Thanks, Mitch but their price is exactly DOUBLE that of Pelican.

On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
>
> > On September 3, 2015 at 10:55 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> >
> >
> > Pelican Parts just called to tell me they cannot ship nitrogen chambers
> (CA
> > hazmat rules) so the entire order had to be canceled.  Bummer.
> >
> > What's the name of the cheapo parts place in NC?
>
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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL?

[Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes]

In general, Dan, the SDL is everything you love about these cars.  You need
to get your hands on this one, it sounds great.  Well maintained cars are
in big demand and get very high prices.

I'd love to have another myself!

Jaime


On Thursday, September 3, 2015, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> The head was replaced and the engine rebuilt at some time in the car’s
> past.  I don’t have details yet but I’m getting them shortly.  He says
> there’s a good 3" thick file folder of service records.
>
> This guy buys really, really nice examples of MBs and then spends whatever
> necessary to bring them up to 110%.  He’s done this with the intent to keep
> them, but his business is growing exponentially and he started a family
> recently.  As you might expect, time available for MB fun and games has
> pretty much evaporated, so he’s thinning out the herd.
>
> He’s the one I bought the 94 S420 from.  It’s not perfect, but it’s
> certainly one of the nicest W140s I’ve seen of its vintage in a long time.
>
> Dan
>
>
>
> > On Sep 3, 2015, at 7:16 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> >
> > No, just considering this as a second car if the price would be right.
> >
> > Why, you want the S430?
> >
> > I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again:
> >
> > After the W140 Mercedes became a commodity, I think.  The styling does
> nothing to distinguish the cars from any others on the road.  The fit and
> finish isn’t that great, and the build quality is so-so.  Interiors look
> fake and plasticky, not luxurious.
> >
> > The S430 is a good car, and I’m happy with it as transportation, but
> unlike models that preceded it, it has no soul.
> >
> > Dan
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Sep 2, 2015, at 9:44 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> >>
> >> You gonna unload the S430?
> >>
> >> --R (sent from my miniPad)
> >>
> >> On Sep 2, 2015, at 8:39 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> >>
> >> The guy I got my 1994 S420 has a 300SDL he’s looking to get rid of.
> Like the S420, he poured far more money into it than he did driving time,
> and it was supposedly as nice or nicer than the S420 when he bought it a
> few years ago.
> >>
> >> This isn’t the rodbender, is it? What should I look for/ask about?  I
> know the W126 chassis well, but not the M603 engine or relatedc running
> gear.
> >>
> >> I may take a look at it in a week or two.  I would really like to get
> back into a W126, and even better, a diesel.  Back to a simpler time….
> >>
> >> Dan
> >>
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

So what you're basically saying is that I need to slaughter anything that
moves in order to relieve it of suffering.

On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> You really could do a much better job in replying to the pertinent message.
> Spoken like a non-outdoorsman. You have no idea about rabbits at all,
> you've never seen them bite one another to chase of an interloper, you've
> never seen them attacked and killed by dogs or cats. You don't even bother
> to check if your local park has a trapping program because they already
> have too many rabbits. Your plan is just to dump your problems and let
> somebody else take care of them...
> -Curt
>
>   From: Andrew Strasfogel 
>  To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>  Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2015 11:03 PM
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring
>
> A solitary rabbit that eats almost anything will survive just fine in a
> park-like setting.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 5:45 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> Not a bad idea. A couple years ago I caught a ver small mouse sitting on
> top of the trap eating the cheese without setting it off...
> -Curt
>
>   From: Randy Bennell 
>  To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>  Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2015 5:35 PM
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring
>
> On 01/09/2015 3:36 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>
>
> > Bunnies eat mint leaves?
> > I've been using almond slivers for the chipmunks. Walnuts probably
> attract them better but I have a bag of stale almond slivers and they glue
> onto the trap really well.
> > -Curt
> >
> >
> >
> Fellow out at the lake suggests using thread and tying a raisin onto the
> trap. The mouse has to work at it to get it and that sets off the trap.
> We have been using peanut butter but the devils can lick it out of the
> trap without setting it off unless I use the crunchy style and push the
> nut pieces into the bait holder really good.
>
>
> RB
>
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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Will do.

Dan


> On Sep 3, 2015, at 9:54 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I don't know but keep me adviced
> 
> --R
> 
> 
> On 9/3/15 7:16 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> No, just considering this as a second car if the price would be right.
>> 
>> Why, you want the S430?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Pelican Parts

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Pelican Parts just called to tell me they cannot ship nitrogen chambers (CA
hazmat rules) so the entire order had to be canceled.  Bummer.

What's the name of the cheapo parts place in NC?

On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 11:09 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
wrote:

> I just placed my first order from the online Pelican catalog.  Very
> pleasant experience!  Easy to find my parts. Prices are comparable to
> Autohaus, and free ground shipping takes just 4 days as opposed to 7.
> Check it out.
>
> 2 Febi Bilstein nitrogen chambers @ $93/75
> 2 liters Febi Bilstein sls fluid @ $10.25
> One SLS pump gsket @ $.75
>
> Andrew
> 1983 300TD - New rear flex hose, fluid still dirty
> 1985 300TD Bouncy ride soon to be addressed.
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I didn't realize you were thinking a few hundred yards away. In that case 
you're merely wasting your time, that rabbit is back at your place before you 
are...
If you really want to just protect your garden get real with your fence. If you 
really want rabbits removed then kill them. Thats the only real solution.
When you move an animal into new territory (real new territory, miles away) it 
will die. It will either be killed by predators since it doesn't know where to 
hide, or it will starve or dehydrate or get hit by a car trying to follow you 
home.What I'm saying in that situation is that you've doomed the animal to die 
even if you aren't actually personally doing the killing. Since your method 
means in most cases the animal will suffer a slow and painful death please 
explain how it is more humane than a pellet to the head?
-Curt

  From: Andrew Strasfogel 
 To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List 
 
 Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2015 10:50 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring
   
I am not into "saving" the bunny.  I am merely protecting the hard work and 
investment in a small vegetable garden by attempting - fruitlesslly so far - to 
humanely a wabbit and move him a few hundred yards away to a new site.  How is 
this worse than killing and eating it?


On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 10:39 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Are we speaking a different language?
I'm saying that in your example the rabbit dies either way. If you really want 
to save his life leave him alone but don't go being all smug that you've "Saved 
the little bunny" what you've done is doomed him to a short life of pain and 
terror. Where my pellet gun ends his life cleanly with little pain. I'm a man, 
I do the killing myself. You farm it out to somebody else and then claim it 
isn't happening.
Are you sure you don't work in the healthcare system?

-Curt
      From: Andrew Strasfogel 
 To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List 

 Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2015 10:31 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

So what you're basically saying is that I need to slaughter anything that moves 
in order to relieve it of suffering.


On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 wrote:

You really could do a much better job in replying to the pertinent message.
Spoken like a non-outdoorsman. You have no idea about rabbits at all, you've 
never seen them bite one another to chase of an interloper, you've never seen 
them attacked and killed by dogs or cats. You don't even bother to check if 
your local park has a trapping program because they already have too many 
rabbits. Your plan is just to dump your problems and let somebody else take 
care of them...
-Curt

      From: Andrew Strasfogel 
 To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List 

 Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2015 11:03 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

A solitary rabbit that eats almost anything will survive just fine in a 
park-like setting.



On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 5:45 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Not a bad idea. A couple years ago I caught a ver small mouse sitting on top of 
the trap eating the cheese without setting it off...
-Curt

      From: Randy Bennell 
 To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List 

 Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2015 5:35 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

On 01/09/2015 3:36 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:


> Bunnies eat mint leaves?
> I've been using almond slivers for the chipmunks. Walnuts probably attract 
> them better but I have a bag of stale almond slivers and they glue onto the 
> trap really well.
> -Curt
>   
>
>
Fellow out at the lake suggests using thread and tying a raisin onto the
trap. The mouse has to work at it to get it and that sets off the trap.
We have been using peanut butter but the devils can lick it out of the
trap without setting it off unless I use the crunchy style and push the
nut pieces into the bait holder really good.


RB



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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL?

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Curly, is there a standard thickness for the proper shim, or do you use the 
Booth method?
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'87 300TD
'95 E300

On September 3, 2015 10:31:46 AM EDT, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>
>I just shimmed the alda in my winter heap (finally) and it is much 
>better.  It accelerates with some spirit,  but still not what I'd 
>call properly tuned.  Still no puffs of soot when you get on it, but 
>it was sedate to the point of being near a 240D auto.
>


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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL?

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

I don't know but keep me adviced

--R


On 9/3/15 7:16 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

No, just considering this as a second car if the price would be right.

Why, you want the S430?



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Re: [MBZ] This could have been a decent car

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Is that interior out of a Buick?

--R



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But the interior was major hacked

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Re: [MBZ] OT: C-47 glider towing

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Yup, "Saving Private Ryan" was the first in a new era of realism in film. Much 
of the camera work is hand held, the time compression was a very new concept, 
the colors are muted, sound is louder or softer than you'd expect based on the 
situation.
I had to write a paper on it in college (film school remember) after I'd make a 
trailer for "Shaving Ryan's Privates"
-Curt

  From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 To: Okie Benz  
Cc: Dan Penoff  
 Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2015 10:22 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: C-47 glider towing
   
I would agree.

From a purely historical standpoint, and as far as getting a really good 
overview of the scale of the operation, “The Longest Day” does a good job I 
think.

“Saving Private Ryan” is good, to, but the realism is sort of jarring.  That’s 
not a bad thing, just an observation.

Dan




> On Sep 3, 2015, at 10:17 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> From a cinematography standpoint "The Longest Day" is typical of its vintage. 
> Most of it was shot on a sound stage. "Saving Private Ryan" has a much more 
> "real" look and of course the sound design is 20 years more advanced.
> The stuff with the Duke is pretty sappy too, again typical of his acting 
> style and the time.
> -Curt
> 
>    

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Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Andrew,
In the natural order of life, the rabbit eating your home grown produce is
simply delivering protein to you for your use.
Kill it, eat it. and season it with the herbs and vegetables from your
garden.

You either survive by placing yourself at the top of the food chain, or you
become food for what is... Natures Rule, not mine.

Shocking isn't it... survival of the fittest.

On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 7:31 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> So what you're basically saying is that I need to slaughter anything that
> moves in order to relieve it of suffering.
>
> On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > You really could do a much better job in replying to the pertinent
> message.
> > Spoken like a non-outdoorsman. You have no idea about rabbits at all,
> > you've never seen them bite one another to chase of an interloper, you've
> > never seen them attacked and killed by dogs or cats. You don't even
> bother
> > to check if your local park has a trapping program because they already
> > have too many rabbits. Your plan is just to dump your problems and let
> > somebody else take care of them...
> > -Curt
> >
> >   From: Andrew Strasfogel 
> >  To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> >  Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2015 11:03 PM
> >  Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring
> >
> > A solitary rabbit that eats almost anything will survive just fine in a
> > park-like setting.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 5:45 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Not a bad idea. A couple years ago I caught a ver small mouse sitting on
> > top of the trap eating the cheese without setting it off...
> > -Curt
> >
> >   From: Randy Bennell 
> >  To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> >  Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2015 5:35 PM
> >  Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring
> >
> > On 01/09/2015 3:36 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> >
> >
> > > Bunnies eat mint leaves?
> > > I've been using almond slivers for the chipmunks. Walnuts probably
> > attract them better but I have a bag of stale almond slivers and they
> glue
> > onto the trap really well.
> > > -Curt
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > Fellow out at the lake suggests using thread and tying a raisin onto the
> > trap. The mouse has to work at it to get it and that sets off the trap.
> > We have been using peanut butter but the devils can lick it out of the
> > trap without setting it off unless I use the crunchy style and push the
> > nut pieces into the bait holder really good.
> >
> >
> > RB
> >
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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL?

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

In general, Dan, the SDL is everything you love about these cars.  You need
to get your hands on this one, it sounds great.  Well maintained cars are
in big demand and get very high prices.

I'd love to have another myself!

Jaime


The 300SDL is the finest road car there is short of extremely high 
dollar cars like the 600.  A 124 or 123 is more fun for driving 
around town as they have a lighter feel.  (110/111 is still the 
lightest feel of the sedans)


Timeless appearance, great performance, great economy for a big car. 
Great for hauling up to 5 ppl around.  Great back seat legroom. 
Reasonably big trunkspace, but nothing is as good there as a 110/111. 
It is reasonable to do all work required yourself.   No code readers 
needed.  Parts are available.


With proper tuning, they can have pretty sporty acceleration for a 
big car Diesel.  My first SDL would put you back against the seat 
when you floored it at 70.


I just shimmed the alda in my winter heap (finally) and it is much 
better.  It accelerates with some spirit,  but still not what I'd 
call properly tuned.  Still no puffs of soot when you get on it, but 
it was sedate to the point of being near a 240D auto.


Each of the 4 I've had was a different personality.  The first was 
still the best tuned of the bunch.  I've never really tried to tune 
any of the others.  they have been adequate the way they were and 
keeping up with maint and repairs on the fleet keeps me busy.   It 
took me 3 years to get around to putting a shim under the alda  on 
this one.


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Re: [MBZ] Pelican Parts

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On September 3, 2015 at 10:55 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Pelican Parts just called to tell me they cannot ship nitrogen chambers (CA
> hazmat rules) so the entire order had to be canceled.  Bummer.
> 
> What's the name of the cheapo parts place in NC?



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Re: [MBZ] This could have been a decent car

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Also has the K hot air intake to increase dust flow and engine smoke while 
reducing power and mileage.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: C-47 glider towing

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On September 2, 2015 at 11:29 PM Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>  I am surprised that any American did not know about this effort but
> I guess much has changed since I went to school.  But maybe that explains
> much.

My memory is no longer fantastic, but the only military gliders I remember from
my childhood
were the imaginary ones that an enlisted guy in M*A*S*H shot down, capturing
imaginary
prisoners and getting himself a nonimaginary mental health discharge in the
process. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL?

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

How does a car get soul, Dan?  If I drive it to a funeral?

On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 9:01 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> The head was replaced and the engine rebuilt at some time in the car’s
> past.  I don’t have details yet but I’m getting them shortly.  He says
> there’s a good 3" thick file folder of service records.
>
> This guy buys really, really nice examples of MBs and then spends whatever
> necessary to bring them up to 110%.  He’s done this with the intent to keep
> them, but his business is growing exponentially and he started a family
> recently.  As you might expect, time available for MB fun and games has
> pretty much evaporated, so he’s thinning out the herd.
>
> He’s the one I bought the 94 S420 from.  It’s not perfect, but it’s
> certainly one of the nicest W140s I’ve seen of its vintage in a long time.
>
> Dan
>
>
>
> > On Sep 3, 2015, at 7:16 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > No, just considering this as a second car if the price would be right.
> >
> > Why, you want the S430?
> >
> > I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again:
> >
> > After the W140 Mercedes became a commodity, I think.  The styling does
> nothing to distinguish the cars from any others on the road.  The fit and
> finish isn’t that great, and the build quality is so-so.  Interiors look
> fake and plasticky, not luxurious.
> >
> > The S430 is a good car, and I’m happy with it as transportation, but
> unlike models that preceded it, it has no soul.
> >
> > Dan
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Sep 2, 2015, at 9:44 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> You gonna unload the S430?
> >>
> >> --R (sent from my miniPad)
> >>
> >> On Sep 2, 2015, at 8:39 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> The guy I got my 1994 S420 has a 300SDL he’s looking to get rid of.
> Like the S420, he poured far more money into it than he did driving time,
> and it was supposedly as nice or nicer than the S420 when he bought it a
> few years ago.
> >>
> >> This isn’t the rodbender, is it? What should I look for/ask about?  I
> know the W126 chassis well, but not the M603 engine or relatedc running
> gear.
> >>
> >> I may take a look at it in a week or two.  I would really like to get
> back into a W126, and even better, a diesel.  Back to a simpler time….
> >>
> >> Dan
> >>
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Are we speaking a different language?
I'm saying that in your example the rabbit dies either way. If you really want 
to save his life leave him alone but don't go being all smug that you've "Saved 
the little bunny" what you've done is doomed him to a short life of pain and 
terror. Where my pellet gun ends his life cleanly with little pain. I'm a man, 
I do the killing myself. You farm it out to somebody else and then claim it 
isn't happening.
Are you sure you don't work in the healthcare system?

-Curt
  From: Andrew Strasfogel 
 To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List 
 
 Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2015 10:31 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring
   
So what you're basically saying is that I need to slaughter anything that moves 
in order to relieve it of suffering.


On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 wrote:

You really could do a much better job in replying to the pertinent message.
Spoken like a non-outdoorsman. You have no idea about rabbits at all, you've 
never seen them bite one another to chase of an interloper, you've never seen 
them attacked and killed by dogs or cats. You don't even bother to check if 
your local park has a trapping program because they already have too many 
rabbits. Your plan is just to dump your problems and let somebody else take 
care of them...
-Curt

      From: Andrew Strasfogel 
 To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List 

 Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2015 11:03 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

A solitary rabbit that eats almost anything will survive just fine in a 
park-like setting.



On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 5:45 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Not a bad idea. A couple years ago I caught a ver small mouse sitting on top of 
the trap eating the cheese without setting it off...
-Curt

      From: Randy Bennell 
 To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List 

 Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2015 5:35 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

On 01/09/2015 3:36 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:


> Bunnies eat mint leaves?
> I've been using almond slivers for the chipmunks. Walnuts probably attract 
> them better but I have a bag of stale almond slivers and they glue onto the 
> trap really well.
> -Curt
>   
>
>
Fellow out at the lake suggests using thread and tying a raisin onto the
trap. The mouse has to work at it to get it and that sets off the trap.
We have been using peanut butter but the devils can lick it out of the
trap without setting it off unless I use the crunchy style and push the
nut pieces into the bait holder really good.


RB



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Re: [MBZ] OT: C-47 glider towing

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Have you seen him playing Genghis 
Khan?http://cdn.zmescience.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/johnwayne-art.jpg


-Curt
  From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Cc: Rich Thomas  
 Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2015 10:40 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: C-47 glider towing
   
Wait! WAIT!  Are you dissing The Duke?  What are you, some kinda g.d. 
commie pinko red?  Come on, boy, speak up!  IMA TAWKIN TA YOU  DO 
YOU HATE ELVIS TOO

What is this world coming to

--R




On 9/3/15 10:17 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>  From a cinematography standpoint "The Longest Day" is typical of its 
>vintage. Most of it was shot on a sound stage. "Saving Private Ryan" has a 
>much more "real" look and of course the sound design is 20 years more advanced.
> The stuff with the Duke is pretty sappy too, again typical of his acting 
> style and the time.
> -Curt


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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I wish.

Only two cars this year.  The S430 and the S420.  Both are LWB cars with plenty 
of legroom and were within a day’s drive of Tampa.  Only one was well below KBB.

Dan


> On Sep 3, 2015, at 10:47 AM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> By my count Dan has purchased 13 clean, one owner1993 - 1999 MB S class 
> sedans in the past 6 months, all with at least 5' of leg room, each one 
> $$thousands below KBB, all within an easy drive of Tampa.
> 


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Re: [MBZ] Pelican Parts

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Anyone know anything about Corteco air cells?  They are the brand Autohaus
carries and sells for $113 ea.

http://www.autohausaz.com/search/product.aspx?sid=4rsb3u551trwv255vkj0ei45=800016@Mercedes=1194320@300TDT=1983=nitrogen@nitrogen=10928@Suspension
Self-Leveling Unit Accumulator

On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 11:32 AM, Andrew Strasfogel 
wrote:

> Thanks, Mitch but their price is exactly DOUBLE that of Pelican.
>
> On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> > On September 3, 2015 at 10:55 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
>> >  wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > Pelican Parts just called to tell me they cannot ship nitrogen chambers
>> (CA
>> > hazmat rules) so the entire order had to be canceled.  Bummer.
>> >
>> > What's the name of the cheapo parts place in NC?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> http://mbnorthlakeparts.com/parts/1985/Mercedes-Benz/300TD/?siteid=217496=90674=REAR%20SUSPENSION
>>
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[MBZ] OT: Practical solar application

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I would like to electrify my shed in the back 40 in order to provide 1)
simple overhead lighting and 2) a 110V outlet for grow mats under my
seedlings next spring.

I might also want to recharge batteries for a B trimmer, although this is
a lesser priority.

There is a sunny spot where I could erect a solar panel, about 15' from the
edge of the building.

Anybody out there work with practical solar applications?

Andrew
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Practical solar application

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

I have been thinking about something similar for a shed I want to 
build.  Harbor Freight has some fairly cheap solar panels of not 
particularly high wattage, that would be cheap enough to do a test set 
up.  Buy one, hook it to a battery/inverter  (I think they might come 
with a 12V battery charger circuit but not sure) and see how much charge 
you can get out of the thing to keep a battery charged with some use.  
You might also want to look at the heat mats, a lot of those things are 
not direct 110V but use a transformer power supply to get, maybe, 12V or 
something similar, so you could possibly run them directly off a 
battery.  Or go to the junkyard and get some heating elements out of 
some car seats?  You can probably buy the heating wire too, I put it in 
my bathroom tile floor, it runs off 110V through some sort of box that 
might step it down, I don't know.  There is probably 12V heating element 
stuff out there somewhere, eBay is your friend.


HF also have some LED lights with a little solar panel to charge 
batteries for like $40, not sure the light output but again, cheap 
enough to test out.  Costco have been selling some LED shop lights, 
110V, that you could probably run off an inverter, not sure what they 
draw but you could check.  Or buy some 12V LED lights from China (I 
bought a load of 110V UG10 spots that are incredible and have been 
working fine for 6 months now, 12V is a standard too for those fancy 
track lights) and hook them up.  If you are interested I can send some 
links to the sockets and lights.  They don't use much amps for a lot of 
light.


You could probably get a reasonable set up for a coupla $100.  Or just 
run some conduit and a circuit out to the shed from the house...


--R

On 9/3/15 1:11 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

I would like to electrify my shed in the back 40 in order to provide 1)
simple overhead lighting and 2) a 110V outlet for grow mats under my
seedlings next spring.

I might also want to recharge batteries for a B trimmer, although this is
a lesser priority.

There is a sunny spot where I could erect a solar panel, about 15' from the
edge of the building.

Anybody out there work with practical solar applications?

Andrew
Gentleman farmer and rabbit torturer
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Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

[clay via Mercedes]

Andrew read and believed Watership Downs to be a documentary.

Rabbits are evil and taste like chicken

clay

On Sep 3, 2015, at 6:53 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

> You really could do a much better job in replying to the pertinent message.
> Spoken like a non-outdoorsman. You have no idea about rabbits at all, you've 
> never seen them bite one another to chase of an interloper, you've never seen 
> them attacked and killed by dogs or cats. You don't even bother to check if 
> your local park has a trapping program because they already have too many 
> rabbits. Your plan is just to dump your problems and let somebody else take 
> care of them...
> -Curt
> 
>  From: Andrew Strasfogel 
> To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List 
>  
> Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2015 11:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring
> 
> A solitary rabbit that eats almost anything will survive just fine in a 
> park-like setting.
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 5:45 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Not a bad idea. A couple years ago I caught a ver small mouse sitting on top 
> of the trap eating the cheese without setting it off...
> -Curt
> 
>   From: Randy Bennell 
>  To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List 
> 
>  Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2015 5:35 PM
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring
> 
> On 01/09/2015 3:36 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> 
> 
>> Bunnies eat mint leaves?
>> I've been using almond slivers for the chipmunks. Walnuts probably attract 
>> them better but I have a bag of stale almond slivers and they glue onto the 
>> trap really well.
>> -Curt
>>
>> 
>> 
> Fellow out at the lake suggests using thread and tying a raisin onto the
> trap. The mouse has to work at it to get it and that sets off the trap.
> We have been using peanut butter but the devils can lick it out of the
> trap without setting it off unless I use the crunchy style and push the
> nut pieces into the bait holder really good.
> 
> 
> RB
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Baggies?

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Yeah, there is lots of competition among parts suppliers these days.  Makes
it tough for dealer parts depts..

On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 1:46 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Andrew.Not so far.Search 1403280515 and you will find a lot of
> suppliers.HTH
>
> Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.
>
> > Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2015 13:33:41 -0400
> > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Baggies?
> > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > CC: astrasfo...@gmail.com
> >
> > Thanks.  Any experience with these guys?
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 1:25 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> http://www.eeuroparts.com/Parts/64732/Accumulator-Rear-Suspension-Level-Control-03277/
> > >
> > > Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.
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Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Andrew wrote:
> 
> I just don't enjoy killing things.  Does this mean I can't
> drive a Mercedes or eat the occasional steak?

Ah!  THAT is a much better statement than the one you used earlier...

> I would never willfully shoot or kill any other living
> creature, other than biting insects or maybe a rabid animal.

The word "never" is a very strong word.  And if you eat a
steak or relocate wildlife your actions don't say the same
thing as your word "never".  But if you say "I don't enjoy
kil ling..." and so avoid  - then your actions and your words
are not at odds with each other.

As I see it, a man whose words and actions don't say the same
thing is a lier.

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Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

At least I'm not a liar.

On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 2:50 PM, fmiser via Mercedes 
wrote:

> > Andrew wrote:
> >
> > I just don't enjoy killing things.  Does this mean I can't
> > drive a Mercedes or eat the occasional steak?
>
> Ah!  THAT is a much better statement than the one you used earlier...
>
> > I would never willfully shoot or kill any other living
> > creature, other than biting insects or maybe a rabid animal.
>
> The word "never" is a very strong word.  And if you eat a
> steak or relocate wildlife your actions don't say the same
> thing as your word "never".  But if you say "I don't enjoy
> kil ling..." and so avoid  - then your actions and your words
> are not at odds with each other.
>
> As I see it, a man whose words and actions don't say the same
> thing is a lier.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Practical solar application

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

60' uphill.  :(

On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> What happened to renting a DitchWitch and buying a spool of direct burial
> cable?  How many feet is the run between the house and shed?
>
>
>
> > On Sep 3, 2015, at 2:40 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks, Rich.  The house and shed are too far apart to run a 110 V line
> > (got a quote for $2000 from a licensed electrician, half of which was for
> > digging a deep trench).
> >
> > I am still puzzled at how to plug in my heat mats into a solar setup.
> Send
> > me some links plesae.
> >
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Practical solar application

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

So you start at the top?

Dan


> On Sep 3, 2015, at 2:54 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> 60' uphill.  :(
> 
> On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> > wrote:
> What happened to renting a DitchWitch and buying a spool of direct burial 
> cable?  How many feet is the run between the house and shed?
> 
> 
> 
> > On Sep 3, 2015, at 2:40 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
> > > wrote:
> >
> > Thanks, Rich.  The house and shed are too far apart to run a 110 V line
> > (got a quote for $2000 from a licensed electrician, half of which was for
> > digging a deep trench).
> >
> > I am still puzzled at how to plug in my heat mats into a solar setup.  Send
> > me some links plesae.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Practical solar application

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Just use direct burial stuff.  Then you don’t have to mess around with conduit.

Dan


> On Sep 3, 2015, at 3:03 PM, clay via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> Dig the thing downhill.  Lay some flex conduit and stuff a pair of romex 
> inside.
> 
> 
> 
> On Sep 3, 2015, at 11:54 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> 
>> 60' uphill.  :(
>> 


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Practical solar application

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 03/09/2015 12:11 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

I would like to electrify my shed in the back 40 in order to provide 1)
simple overhead lighting and 2) a 110V outlet for grow mats under my
seedlings next spring.

I might also want to recharge batteries for a B trimmer, although this is
a lesser priority.

There is a sunny spot where I could erect a solar panel, about 15' from the
edge of the building.

Anybody out there work with practical solar applications?

Andrew
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Basic lighting is easy. They sell small solar powered LED lamps all over 
for next to nothing. I have one on my garage that lights the path beside 
it whenever I walk through.


However, unless the shed is a half mile away, let me suggest an 
extension cord to the house is much simpler and less expensive than a 
setup sufficient to provide 120V to electric heating mats.


RB

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Practical solar application

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Extension cord from the house to the shed would be vetoed immediately by
SWMBO.

On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 3:46 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
wrote:

> Thanks - that helps.  I wonder why there is no simple kit that goes from
> PV to 110 V without all the interconnecting parapernalia, battery,
> inverters, etc.
>
> On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 3:46 PM, fmiser via Mercedes  > wrote:
>
>> > Andrew wrote:
>> >
>> > I am still puzzled at how to plug in my heat mats into a
>> > solar setup.
>>
>> A solar panel will generate direct current (DC).  A power
>> cell - and therefore a battery - can only store DC.  If you
>> need alternating current (AC), then a converter is needed.
>> It is called an "inverter".   Small ones (low power) are
>> pretty cheap.  Big ones are not.  Ideal is to get an inverter
>> with a power rating close to your power needs.  If you have
>> 80 Watts of seedling heaters, get a 100-120 W inverter, not a
>> 750 W.
>>
>> The process of creating AC from DC is not perfect.  Thus to
>> get 80 W of AC will typically require 90-110 W of DC.
>>
>> The capacity of the photo-voltaic panel, capacity of the
>> battery, and the power rating of the inverter all depend on
>> the size of the load.
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Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Rabbits are G*d's creatures, just like l*berals and R*publicans

On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 2:32 PM, clay via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Andrew read and believed Watership Downs to be a documentary.
>
> Rabbits are evil and taste like chicken
>
> clay
>
> On Sep 3, 2015, at 6:53 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>
> > You really could do a much better job in replying to the pertinent
> message.
> > Spoken like a non-outdoorsman. You have no idea about rabbits at all,
> you've never seen them bite one another to chase of an interloper, you've
> never seen them attacked and killed by dogs or cats. You don't even bother
> to check if your local park has a trapping program because they already
> have too many rabbits. Your plan is just to dump your problems and let
> somebody else take care of them...
> > -Curt
> >
> >  From: Andrew Strasfogel 
> > To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2015 11:03 PM
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring
> >
> > A solitary rabbit that eats almost anything will survive just fine in a
> park-like setting.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 5:45 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Not a bad idea. A couple years ago I caught a ver small mouse sitting on
> top of the trap eating the cheese without setting it off...
> > -Curt
> >
> >   From: Randy Bennell 
> >  To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> >  Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2015 5:35 PM
> >  Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring
> >
> > On 01/09/2015 3:36 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Bunnies eat mint leaves?
> >> I've been using almond slivers for the chipmunks. Walnuts probably
> attract them better but I have a bag of stale almond slivers and they glue
> onto the trap really well.
> >> -Curt
> >>
> >>
> >>
> > Fellow out at the lake suggests using thread and tying a raisin onto the
> > trap. The mouse has to work at it to get it and that sets off the trap.
> > We have been using peanut butter but the devils can lick it out of the
> > trap without setting it off unless I use the crunchy style and push the
> > nut pieces into the bait holder really good.
> >
> >
> > RB
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> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Practical solar application

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

What happened to renting a DitchWitch and buying a spool of direct burial 
cable?  How many feet is the run between the house and shed?



> On Sep 3, 2015, at 2:40 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Rich.  The house and shed are too far apart to run a 110 V line
> (got a quote for $2000 from a licensed electrician, half of which was for
> digging a deep trench).
> 
> I am still puzzled at how to plug in my heat mats into a solar setup.  Send
> me some links plesae.
> 


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Practical solar application

[clay via Mercedes]

Dig the thing downhill.  Lay some flex conduit and stuff a pair of romex inside.



On Sep 3, 2015, at 11:54 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

> 60' uphill.  :(
> 
> On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> What happened to renting a DitchWitch and buying a spool of direct burial
>> cable?  How many feet is the run between the house and shed?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 3, 2015, at 2:40 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks, Rich.  The house and shed are too far apart to run a 110 V line
>>> (got a quote for $2000 from a licensed electrician, half of which was for
>>> digging a deep trench).
>>> 
>>> I am still puzzled at how to plug in my heat mats into a solar setup.
>> Send
>>> me some links plesae.
>>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

If my W220 had cooled seats the spousal unit would immediately take control of 
it.  Not sure if that’s a good thing or not.

Dan


> On Sep 3, 2015, at 3:33 PM, clay via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> SWMBA had a 09 korean car.   It was very much the same as the 02 w220.  
> Heated seats, nav, dual climate, leather. no seat memory, no auto close door 
> or trunk, but it did have ipod hook up and bluetooth.  Same plastic molding 
> and fuzzy trim.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL?

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

And a 45 to replace her 357??

RB


On 03/09/2015 1:23 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

I thought about getting a 220 for the wife to replace her 210

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 3, 2015, at 1:22 PM, clay via Mercedes  wrote:

+1

The Benz brand is just another extension of Korean design.  I grow tired of 
trying to unlock Kia and Hyundia in parking lots because the dang things look 
too much like the W220

clay


On Sep 3, 2015, at 4:16 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

No, just considering this as a second car if the price would be right.

Why, you want the S430?

I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again:

After the W140 Mercedes became a commodity, I think.  The styling does nothing 
to distinguish the cars from any others on the road.  The fit and finish isn’t 
that great, and the build quality is so-so.  Interiors look fake and plasticky, 
not luxurious.

The S430 is a good car, and I’m happy with it as transportation, but unlike 
models that preceded it, it has no soul.

Dan

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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL?

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I thought about getting a 220 for the wife to replace her 210

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 3, 2015, at 1:22 PM, clay via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> +1
> 
> The Benz brand is just another extension of Korean design.  I grow tired of 
> trying to unlock Kia and Hyundia in parking lots because the dang things look 
> too much like the W220
> 
> clay
> 
>> On Sep 3, 2015, at 4:16 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> 
>> No, just considering this as a second car if the price would be right.
>> 
>> Why, you want the S430?
>> 
>> I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again:
>> 
>> After the W140 Mercedes became a commodity, I think.  The styling does 
>> nothing to distinguish the cars from any others on the road.  The fit and 
>> finish isn’t that great, and the build quality is so-so.  Interiors look 
>> fake and plasticky, not luxurious.
>> 
>> The S430 is a good car, and I’m happy with it as transportation, but unlike 
>> models that preceded it, it has no soul.
>> 
>> Dan
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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL?

[clay via Mercedes]

The current designs have all manner of Seoul.  Previous models under Bracq and 
Sacco touched the heart and were more than just ovoid wind tunnel blobs. The 
C111 was a beauty and not a blob.  Even the older streamlined pre-war models 
had a human touch, the curves of a woman that pleased the eye




clay 

2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers








On Sep 3, 2015, at 6:49 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

> How does a car get soul, Dan?  If I drive it to a funeral?
> 
> On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 9:01 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> The head was replaced and the engine rebuilt at some time in the car’s
>> past.  I don’t have details yet but I’m getting them shortly.  He says
>> there’s a good 3" thick file folder of service records.
>> 
>> This guy buys really, really nice examples of MBs and then spends whatever
>> necessary to bring them up to 110%.  He’s done this with the intent to keep
>> them, but his business is growing exponentially and he started a family
>> recently.  As you might expect, time available for MB fun and games has
>> pretty much evaporated, so he’s thinning out the herd.
>> 
>> He’s the one I bought the 94 S420 from.  It’s not perfect, but it’s
>> certainly one of the nicest W140s I’ve seen of its vintage in a long time.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 3, 2015, at 7:16 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> No, just considering this as a second car if the price would be right.
>>> 
>>> Why, you want the S430?
>>> 
>>> I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again:
>>> 
>>> After the W140 Mercedes became a commodity, I think.  The styling does
>> nothing to distinguish the cars from any others on the road.  The fit and
>> finish isn’t that great, and the build quality is so-so.  Interiors look
>> fake and plasticky, not luxurious.
>>> 
>>> The S430 is a good car, and I’m happy with it as transportation, but
>> unlike models that preceded it, it has no soul.
>>> 
>>> Dan
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Sep 2, 2015, at 9:44 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 You gonna unload the S430?
 
 --R (sent from my miniPad)
 
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>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 The guy I got my 1994 S420 has a 300SDL he’s looking to get rid of.
>> Like the S420, he poured far more money into it than he did driving time,
>> and it was supposedly as nice or nicer than the S420 when he bought it a
>> few years ago.
 
 This isn’t the rodbender, is it? What should I look for/ask about?  I
>> know the W126 chassis well, but not the M603 engine or relatedc running
>> gear.
 
 I may take a look at it in a week or two.  I would really like to get
>> back into a W126, and even better, a diesel.  Back to a simpler time….
 
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Re: [MBZ] Alda shim WUZ: 300SDL?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Gotcha.

So this is the engine with the intake that loops over the top of the engine and 
makes stuff hard to get to?

My diesel experience ended wit the M617.

I often recall tweaking the ALDA on these engines.  Such a nice bump 
performance-wise.  The 85 300CD I had would chirp the tires in second gear 
after I tuned up the ALDA.

Dan



> On Sep 3, 2015, at 2:23 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> No, there is still the screw, but you have to take off the inhalt manifold to 
> get there. Simpler to take the alda loose, drop in a shim and put the alda 
> back on.  Test drive.
> 
> On a OM617, where
> 
> The mechanism gets worn to beyond what the screw can adjust.  We are talking 
> 30 year old cars now. The screw is still the official best way to do it, and 
> if you don't mind spending a few thou for a new IP on a sub-$1000 heap, the 
> screw is the preferred way to do it.  But when you don't have an intake 
> manifold gasket and parts take a week to get delivered or when the car is 
> high mile and the screw may well be at the end of adjustment, a shim works.  
> It might give you back some adjustment
> 
> In the case of my 300D, if i'd wanted to take off the manifold, have the car 
> down a week waiting for parts, and adjust the screw,  I may have been able to 
> fine tune the fuel delivery with the screw, or put in the shim and then gain 
> adjustment range with the screw.
> 
> In the case of the heap, I doubt the screw was ever adjusted in 29 years, 
> because the seal cap was still on top of the ALda.  I could see it, but you 
> can't adjust the screw with the manifold on anyway, so i left it alone.
> 
> BTW, I change the Glow plugs with the manifold on too.  Faster and cheaper 
> that way.
> 
> A big positive for these methods is that you DON"T have to break open the 
> injector lines, and risk introducing fine particles into the injection system 
> to damage or ruin the nozzles.
> 
> Personally, I have never adjusted the screw. They either run or are sluggish. 
>  Most of the time the sluggisnness is cured by blowing out the vacuum line to 
> the manifold.  In this case, that made no difference, and never a puff of 
> soot when the turbo kicks in.  it felt like the turbo never kicks in.  So, 
> time for a shim.  Since I rarely drive the heap out of town, the shim was a 
> low priority.
> 
> The heap is more fun to drive now.  Last week I beat out a fairly hot car at 
> a stoplight.  That's never happened before.  It could not beat a 240D 4 speed 
> before.
> 
> 
>> So in order to adjust the ALDA on the 603, you have to shim it as opposed to 
>> adjusting a screw like on the 617?
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>>> On Sep 3, 2015, at 12:23 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> There were posts, and I think a McMaster part number for that some years 
>>> ago.  Not having a mcmaster any where near, and not wanting to pay $10 
>>> shipping for a 50¢ part, I take the copper washer for the OM603 (124) oil 
>>> filter center bolt, as they are not used in the SDL, then put that copper 
>>> washer over a needlenose pliers, and pull the pliers apart, stretching the 
>>> washer oval.  Turn 90º and repeat.  repeat until the washer is big enough 
>>> to fit over the alda guts, but still small enough to fit inside the threads.
>>> 
>>> A ring sizer or other  tapered round is good for changing it back in to a 
>>> circle from the oval.  I don't have a ring sizer, so  I just do the best I 
>>> can with the needlenose pliers.  It is not an exact science.
>>> 
>>> This results in a copper washer about 1/16" thick and maybe 2 mm wide in 
>>> cross section.
>>> 
>>> There ore other ways to do it, but since I always have oil filters, one of 
>>> these washers is always handy.  I throw the copper washers/rings etc I 
>>> don't use into a can near the oil filter stash
>>> 
>>> I tried on in the 300D one tme, but it was overkill, so I took it out and 
>>> jest left it the way it was.  That car had only about 200K miles at the 
>>> time, so not too badly worn.  The winter heap SDL has about 500k miles.
>>> 
>>> If you had a steel ring sizer and a brass hammer, you can stretch the 
>>> washer with those tools by tap and turn the same as a jeweler enlarges a 
>>> ring.
>>> 
>>> 
 Curly, is there a standard thickness for the proper shim, or do you use 
 the Booth method?
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> 
> I just shimmed the alda in my winter heap (finally) and it is much
>> >>> better.  It accelerates with some spirit,  but still not what I'd
> call properly tuned.  Still no puffs of soot when you get on it, but
> it was sedate to the point of being near a 240D auto.
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL?

[clay via Mercedes]

It is fine.  Not at all sweet. in the manner of a w126.  Not at all like the 
W140.  Cheap plastic, sort of junky.  If you do think you need one, get the 
2006 series.

clay



On Sep 3, 2015, at 11:23 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

> I thought about getting a 220 for the wife to replace her 210
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Sep 3, 2015, at 1:22 PM, clay via Mercedes  wrote:
>> 
>> +1
>> 
>> The Benz brand is just another extension of Korean design.  I grow tired of 
>> trying to unlock Kia and Hyundia in parking lots because the dang things 
>> look too much like the W220
>> 
>> clay
>> 
>>> On Sep 3, 2015, at 4:16 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>>> 
>>> No, just considering this as a second car if the price would be right.
>>> 
>>> Why, you want the S430?
>>> 
>>> I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again:
>>> 
>>> After the W140 Mercedes became a commodity, I think.  The styling does 
>>> nothing to distinguish the cars from any others on the road.  The fit and 
>>> finish isn’t that great, and the build quality is so-so.  Interiors look 
>>> fake and plasticky, not luxurious.
>>> 
>>> The S430 is a good car, and I’m happy with it as transportation, but unlike 
>>> models that preceded it, it has no soul.
>>> 
>>> Dan
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[MBZ] And now for something completely different - NOT rabbit related

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Overgrown sheep yields record 88 pounds of woolPublished: Thursday,
September 3, 2015

An Australian sheep that had escaped from its flock years earlier was saved
today through heroic shearing that stripped a record 88 pounds of wool off
the animal.

"It's definitely one of the biggest sheep we've ever seen," Tammy Ven Dange
of the Royal Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals in Australia
told Agence-France Presse.

Chris, as the fluffy sheep was named by its discoverer, could barely walk
or see because of his massive coat, and he was at risk of contracting skin
parasites. If he had fallen over in the wild, he would have likely starved
or been eaten by a predator.

Wild sheep shed their coats annually, but humans have bred domestic sheep
to grow their coats continuously.

Four-time Australian shearing champion Ian Elkins responded to a call by
Ven Dange for help, though the professional had to contend with the heavy
wool pulling hard on Chris' skin, making the risk of cutting him very high.

"[This] could be one of my biggest challenges yet," Elkins said yesterday.

Further adding to the challenge was Chris' skittish and reclusive nature
from years of solitary living away from humans.

"He has obviously not been around people in a very long time, and it's
probably going to take a couple of goes before we get it all off him," Ven
Dange told the Australian Broadcasting Corp. yesterday. "He could go into
shock during the shearing process tomorrow, so we're going to sedate him to
try and take some of that pressure off him."

This morning, Elkins sheared the 88.2 pounds of wool off Chris in a
45-minute operation; most shearing jobs take between 30 seconds and 2
minutes. The record amount of merino wool weighed nearly as much as Chris,
who came in at 97 pounds post-shearing. Chris' product easily beat the
previous record of about 60 pounds set in New Zealand.

"It's actually smashed the record," Elkins told the London *Guardian*.
"It's very exciting to be part of it, and it's quite pleasing that the
welfare of this sheep was taken care of" (Michael E. Miller, *Washington
Post*
,
Sept. 3). *-- BTP*
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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL?

[clay via Mercedes]

+1

The Benz brand is just another extension of Korean design.  I grow tired of 
trying to unlock Kia and Hyundia in parking lots because the dang things look 
too much like the W220

clay

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> No, just considering this as a second car if the price would be right.
> 
> Why, you want the S430?
> 
> I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again:
> 
> After the W140 Mercedes became a commodity, I think.  The styling does 
> nothing to distinguish the cars from any others on the road.  The fit and 
> finish isn’t that great, and the build quality is so-so.  Interiors look fake 
> and plasticky, not luxurious.
> 
> The S430 is a good car, and I’m happy with it as transportation, but unlike 
> models that preceded it, it has no soul.
> 
> Dan
 
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Re: [MBZ] '85 123 vacuum system

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> RA wrote:
> 
> I finally reached the point where the engine will not shut
> off when removing the key last week.  I must use the stop
> button under the hood each time.  The door locks also
> stopped working.

Classic symptoms of a failing vacuum control system.  It could
be lines or hoses - but I rarely see anything but the "vacuum
element" fail.  (I don't really like the word "vacuum
element", but that's the word Mercedes uses in the manual for
the vacuum actuators.)

> Dan wrote:
> This is all of maybe 10-15 minutes worth of diagnostics with a MityVac

> Rick wrote:
> 
> Buy a Mity Vac. Do it yourself.

> Rich wrote:
> 
> First is to put your mity-vac (HF sells a version for cheap
> but a "real" one is not that much anyway)

> Curt wrote:
>
> Buy a MityVac and do it yourself

I contend that a MityVac is unnecessary.  It is just a vacuum
source - but so is the pump on the front of the engine.

A vacuum gauge is handy, but even just a finger over the end
of a hose can be enough to the difference between strong
vacuum and weak-because-there-is-a-leak.

Unlike a MityVac, the engine vacuum is only available with the
engine running and it's harder to move from door to door.

To troubleshoot, first make sure the source vacuum is strong.
If the power brakes actually have power assist, then the
vacuum pump is probably okay.

Next check at the "T" near the booster.  By "check" I mean
"put a finger over the end and feel the pull".  Then start
"following" the vacuum forward 'till you figure out where it's
getting lost.  

Twigs or golf tees are pretty much required to plug various
lines to isolate.

With a MityVac you can check each branch - arguably the easier
way to do it, but I have identified and isolated many vacuum
problems while I was many miles away from my MityVac

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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I would agree.  If you’re looking for some really nice, well appointed 
transportation, the W220 is a good choice.  Later is always better, as the 
Chrysler influence gets less and less as time goes on.

My youngest, the W140 snob, turned up his nose the first time he got into the 
car. “Pleather?!?  Wow, Dad, that’s really lame.”

Sadly, he’s right.  It’s appointed nicely, but for those of us who understand 
the detail and quality of materials used in earlier models, it’s pretty awful.  
I would liken it to a Mercury Sable in some respects.  And it looks pretty much 
like one, too.

There are some nice features and it is very comfortable.  That’s pretty much 
where the similarities end with prior models.

Dan


 
> On Sep 3, 2015, at 2:52 PM, clay via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> It is fine.  Not at all sweet. in the manner of a w126.  Not at all like the 
> W140.  Cheap plastic, sort of junky.  If you do think you need one, get the 
> 2006 series.
> 
> clay
> 
> 
> 
> On Sep 3, 2015, at 11:23 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> 
>> I thought about getting a 220 for the wife to replace her 210
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 3, 2015, at 1:22 PM, clay via Mercedes  wrote:
>>> 
>>> +1
>>> 
>>> The Benz brand is just another extension of Korean design.  I grow tired of 
>>> trying to unlock Kia and Hyundia in parking lots because the dang things 
>>> look too much like the W220
>>> 
>>> clay
>>> 
 On Sep 3, 2015, at 4:16 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
 
 No, just considering this as a second car if the price would be right.
 
 Why, you want the S430?
 
 I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again:
 
 After the W140 Mercedes became a commodity, I think.  The styling does 
 nothing to distinguish the cars from any others on the road.  The fit and 
 finish isn’t that great, and the build quality is so-so.  Interiors look 
 fake and plasticky, not luxurious.
 
 The S430 is a good car, and I’m happy with it as transportation, but 
 unlike models that preceded it, it has no soul.
 
 Dan
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Practical solar application

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

True.

It’s against code to run phone with power, or any other signal wiring, I 
believe.  Not to mention you risk inducing a voltage into it, which can wreak 
all kinds of havoc.

Dan


> On Sep 3, 2015, at 3:29 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes  
> wrote:
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> Then it is easier to put a shovel through too!  1" PVC conduit is cheap and 
> no harder to bury than romex, plus you can run a phone line or something else 
> in it too if you want.
> 
> --R
> 
> 
> 
> On 9/3/15 3:08 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> Just use direct burial stuff.  Then you don’t have to mess around with 
>> conduit.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 3, 2015, at 3:03 PM, clay via Mercedes  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dig the thing downhill.  Lay some flex conduit and stuff a pair of romex 
>>> inside.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sep 3, 2015, at 11:54 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>>> 
 60' uphill.  :(
 
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[MBZ] Alda shim WUZ: 300SDL?

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

No, there is still the screw, but you have to 
take off the inhalt manifold to get there. 
Simpler to take the alda loose, drop in a shim 
and put the alda back on.  Test drive.


On a OM617, where

The mechanism gets worn to beyond what the screw 
can adjust.  We are talking 30 year old cars now. 
The screw is still the official best way to do 
it, and if you don't mind spending a few thou for 
a new IP on a sub-$1000 heap, the screw is the 
preferred way to do it.  But when you don't have 
an intake manifold gasket and parts take a week 
to get delivered or when the car is high mile and 
the screw may well be at the end of adjustment, a 
shim works.  It might give you back some 
adjustment


In the case of my 300D, if i'd wanted to take off 
the manifold, have the car down a week waiting 
for parts, and adjust the screw,  I may have been 
able to fine tune the fuel delivery with the 
screw, or put in the shim and then gain 
adjustment range with the screw.


In the case of the heap, I doubt the screw was 
ever adjusted in 29 years, because the seal cap 
was still on top of the ALda.  I could see it, 
but you can't adjust the screw with the manifold 
on anyway, so i left it alone.


BTW, I change the Glow plugs with the manifold on 
too.  Faster and cheaper that way.


A big positive for these methods is that you 
DON"T have to break open the injector lines, and 
risk introducing fine particles into the 
injection system to damage or ruin the nozzles.


Personally, I have never adjusted the screw. 
They either run or are sluggish.  Most of the 
time the sluggisnness is cured by blowing out the 
vacuum line to the manifold.  In this case, that 
made no difference, and never a puff of soot when 
the turbo kicks in.  it felt like the turbo never 
kicks in.  So, time for a shim.  Since I rarely 
drive the heap out of town, the shim was a low 
priority.


The heap is more fun to drive now.  Last week I 
beat out a fairly hot car at a stoplight.  That's 
never happened before.  It could not beat a 240D 
4 speed before.



So in order to adjust the ALDA on the 603, you 
have to shim it as opposed to adjusting a screw 
like on the 617?


Dan

 On Sep 3, 2015, at 12:23 PM, Curly McLain via 
Mercedes  wrote:


 There were posts, and I think a McMaster part 
number for that some years ago.  Not having a 
mcmaster any where near, and not wanting to pay 
$10 shipping for a 50¢ part, I take the copper 
washer for the OM603 (124) oil filter center 
bolt, as they are not used in the SDL, then put 
that copper washer over a needlenose pliers, 
and pull the pliers apart, stretching the 
washer oval.  Turn 90º and repeat.  repeat 
until the washer is big enough to fit over the 
alda guts, but still small enough to fit inside 
the threads.


 A ring sizer or other  tapered round is good 
for changing it back in to a circle from the 
oval.  I don't have a ring sizer, so  I just do 
the best I can with the needlenose pliers.  It 
is not an exact science.


 This results in a copper washer about 1/16" 
thick and maybe 2 mm wide in cross section.


 There ore other ways to do it, but since I 
always have oil filters, one of these washers 
is always handy.  I throw the copper 
washers/rings etc I don't use into a can near 
the oil filter stash


 I tried on in the 300D one tme, but it was 
overkill, so I took it out and jest left it the 
way it was.  That car had only about 200K miles 
at the time, so not too badly worn.  The winter 
heap SDL has about 500k miles.


 If you had a steel ring sizer and a brass 
hammer, you can stretch the washer with those 
tools by tap and turn the same as a jeweler 
enlarges a ring.



 Curly, is there a standard thickness for the 
proper shim, or do you use the Booth method?

 --
 Max Dillon
 Charleston SC
 '87 300TD
 '95 E300

 On September 3, 2015 10:31:46 AM EDT, Curly 
McLain via Mercedes  
wrote:


 I just shimmed the alda in my winter heap (finally) and it is much

 >>> better.  It accelerates with some spirit,  but still not what I'd

 call properly tuned.  Still no puffs of soot when you get on it, but
 it was sedate to the point of being near a 240D auto.



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Re: [MBZ] OT: Practical solar application

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Thanks, Rich.  The house and shed are too far apart to run a 110 V line
(got a quote for $2000 from a licensed electrician, half of which was for
digging a deep trench).

I am still puzzled at how to plug in my heat mats into a solar setup.  Send
me some links plesae.

On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 1:57 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I have been thinking about something similar for a shed I want to build.
> Harbor Freight has some fairly cheap solar panels of not particularly high
> wattage, that would be cheap enough to do a test set up.  Buy one, hook it
> to a battery/inverter  (I think they might come with a 12V battery charger
> circuit but not sure) and see how much charge you can get out of the thing
> to keep a battery charged with some use.  You might also want to look at
> the heat mats, a lot of those things are not direct 110V but use a
> transformer power supply to get, maybe, 12V or something similar, so you
> could possibly run them directly off a battery.  Or go to the junkyard and
> get some heating elements out of some car seats?  You can probably buy the
> heating wire too, I put it in my bathroom tile floor, it runs off 110V
> through some sort of box that might step it down, I don't know.  There is
> probably 12V heating element stuff out there somewhere, eBay is your friend.
>
> HF also have some LED lights with a little solar panel to charge batteries
> for like $40, not sure the light output but again, cheap enough to test
> out.  Costco have been selling some LED shop lights, 110V, that you could
> probably run off an inverter, not sure what they draw but you could check.
> Or buy some 12V LED lights from China (I bought a load of 110V UG10 spots
> that are incredible and have been working fine for 6 months now, 12V is a
> standard too for those fancy track lights) and hook them up.  If you are
> interested I can send some links to the sockets and lights.  They don't use
> much amps for a lot of light.
>
> You could probably get a reasonable set up for a coupla $100.  Or just run
> some conduit and a circuit out to the shed from the house...
>
> --R
>
>
> On 9/3/15 1:11 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> I would like to electrify my shed in the back 40 in order to provide 1)
>> simple overhead lighting and 2) a 110V outlet for grow mats under my
>> seedlings next spring.
>>
>> I might also want to recharge batteries for a B trimmer, although this
>> is
>> a lesser priority.
>>
>> There is a sunny spot where I could erect a solar panel, about 15' from
>> the
>> edge of the building.
>>
>> Anybody out there work with practical solar applications?
>>
>> Andrew
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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

+1


> On Sep 3, 2015, at 2:29 PM, clay via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> The current designs have all manner of Seoul.  Previous models under Bracq 
> and Sacco touched the heart and were more than just ovoid wind tunnel blobs. 
> The C111 was a beauty and not a blob.  Even the older streamlined pre-war 
> models had a human touch, the curves of a woman that pleased the eye
> 
> 
> 
> 
> clay 
> 
> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sep 3, 2015, at 6:49 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> 
>> How does a car get soul, Dan?  If I drive it to a funeral?
>> 
>> On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 9:01 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> The head was replaced and the engine rebuilt at some time in the car’s
>>> past.  I don’t have details yet but I’m getting them shortly.  He says
>>> there’s a good 3" thick file folder of service records.
>>> 
>>> This guy buys really, really nice examples of MBs and then spends whatever
>>> necessary to bring them up to 110%.  He’s done this with the intent to keep
>>> them, but his business is growing exponentially and he started a family
>>> recently.  As you might expect, time available for MB fun and games has
>>> pretty much evaporated, so he’s thinning out the herd.
>>> 
>>> He’s the one I bought the 94 S420 from.  It’s not perfect, but it’s
>>> certainly one of the nicest W140s I’ve seen of its vintage in a long time.
>>> 
>>> Dan
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Sep 3, 2015, at 7:16 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 No, just considering this as a second car if the price would be right.
 
 Why, you want the S430?
 
 I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again:
 
 After the W140 Mercedes became a commodity, I think.  The styling does
>>> nothing to distinguish the cars from any others on the road.  The fit and
>>> finish isn’t that great, and the build quality is so-so.  Interiors look
>>> fake and plasticky, not luxurious.
 
 The S430 is a good car, and I’m happy with it as transportation, but
>>> unlike models that preceded it, it has no soul.
 
 Dan
 
 
 
> On Sep 2, 2015, at 9:44 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> You gonna unload the S430?
> 
> --R (sent from my miniPad)
> 
> On Sep 2, 2015, at 8:39 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> The guy I got my 1994 S420 has a 300SDL he’s looking to get rid of.
>>> Like the S420, he poured far more money into it than he did driving time,
>>> and it was supposedly as nice or nicer than the S420 when he bought it a
>>> few years ago.
> 
> This isn’t the rodbender, is it? What should I look for/ask about?  I
>>> know the W126 chassis well, but not the M603 engine or relatedc running
>>> gear.
> 
> I may take a look at it in a week or two.  I would really like to get
>>> back into a W126, and even better, a diesel.  Back to a simpler time….
> 
> Dan
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Practical solar application

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Then it is easier to put a shovel through too!  1" PVC conduit is cheap 
and no harder to bury than romex, plus you can run a phone line or 
something else in it too if you want.


--R



On 9/3/15 3:08 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Just use direct burial stuff.  Then you don’t have to mess around with conduit.

Dan



On Sep 3, 2015, at 3:03 PM, clay via Mercedes  wrote:

Dig the thing downhill.  Lay some flex conduit and stuff a pair of romex inside.



On Sep 3, 2015, at 11:54 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:


60' uphill.  :(



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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL?

[clay via Mercedes]

SWMBA had a 09 korean car.   It was very much the same as the 02 w220.  Heated 
seats, nav, dual climate, leather. no seat memory, no auto close door or trunk, 
but it did have ipod hook up and bluetooth.  Same plastic molding and fuzzy 
trim.



On Sep 3, 2015, at 12:04 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

> I would agree.  If you’re looking for some really nice, well appointed 
> transportation, the W220 is a good choice.  Later is always better, as the 
> Chrysler influence gets less and less as time goes on.
> 
> My youngest, the W140 snob, turned up his nose the first time he got into the 
> car. “Pleather?!?  Wow, Dad, that’s really lame.”
> 
> Sadly, he’s right.  It’s appointed nicely, but for those of us who understand 
> the detail and quality of materials used in earlier models, it’s pretty 
> awful.  I would liken it to a Mercury Sable in some respects.  And it looks 
> pretty much like one, too.
> 
> There are some nice features and it is very comfortable.  That’s pretty much 
> where the similarities end with prior models.
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 3, 2015, at 2:52 PM, clay via Mercedes  wrote:
>> 
>> It is fine.  Not at all sweet. in the manner of a w126.  Not at all like the 
>> W140.  Cheap plastic, sort of junky.  If you do think you need one, get the 
>> 2006 series.
>> 
>> clay
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 3, 2015, at 11:23 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> 
>>> I thought about getting a 220 for the wife to replace her 210
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Sep 3, 2015, at 1:22 PM, clay via Mercedes  
 wrote:
 
 +1
 
 The Benz brand is just another extension of Korean design.  I grow tired 
 of trying to unlock Kia and Hyundia in parking lots because the dang 
 things look too much like the W220
 
 clay
 
> On Sep 3, 2015, at 4:16 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> 
> No, just considering this as a second car if the price would be right.
> 
> Why, you want the S430?
> 
> I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again:
> 
> After the W140 Mercedes became a commodity, I think.  The styling does 
> nothing to distinguish the cars from any others on the road.  The fit and 
> finish isn’t that great, and the build quality is so-so.  Interiors look 
> fake and plasticky, not luxurious.
> 
> The S430 is a good car, and I’m happy with it as transportation, but 
> unlike models that preceded it, it has no soul.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Practical solar application

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Andrew wrote:
> 
> I am still puzzled at how to plug in my heat mats into a
> solar setup.

A solar panel will generate direct current (DC).  A power
cell - and therefore a battery - can only store DC.  If you
need alternating current (AC), then a converter is needed.
It is called an "inverter".   Small ones (low power) are
pretty cheap.  Big ones are not.  Ideal is to get an inverter
with a power rating close to your power needs.  If you have
80 Watts of seedling heaters, get a 100-120 W inverter, not a
750 W.

The process of creating AC from DC is not perfect.  Thus to
get 80 W of AC will typically require 90-110 W of DC.  

The capacity of the photo-voltaic panel, capacity of the
battery, and the power rating of the inverter all depend on
the size of the load.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Practical solar application

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Thanks - that helps.  I wonder why there is no simple kit that goes from PV
to 110 V without all the interconnecting parapernalia, battery, inverters,
etc.

On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 3:46 PM, fmiser via Mercedes 
wrote:

> > Andrew wrote:
> >
> > I am still puzzled at how to plug in my heat mats into a
> > solar setup.
>
> A solar panel will generate direct current (DC).  A power
> cell - and therefore a battery - can only store DC.  If you
> need alternating current (AC), then a converter is needed.
> It is called an "inverter".   Small ones (low power) are
> pretty cheap.  Big ones are not.  Ideal is to get an inverter
> with a power rating close to your power needs.  If you have
> 80 Watts of seedling heaters, get a 100-120 W inverter, not a
> 750 W.
>
> The process of creating AC from DC is not perfect.  Thus to
> get 80 W of AC will typically require 90-110 W of DC.
>
> The capacity of the photo-voltaic panel, capacity of the
> battery, and the power rating of the inverter all depend on
> the size of the load.
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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Heh.  A 12GA to replace her 20GA.

Dan


> On Sep 3, 2015, at 3:45 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> And a 45 to replace her 357??
> 
> RB
> 
> 
> On 03/09/2015 1:23 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> I thought about getting a 220 for the wife to replace her 210
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 3, 2015, at 1:22 PM, clay via Mercedes  wrote:
>>> 
>>> +1
>>> 
>>> The Benz brand is just another extension of Korean design.  I grow tired of 
>>> trying to unlock Kia and Hyundia in parking lots because the dang things 
>>> look too much like the W220
>>> 
>>> clay
>>> 
 On Sep 3, 2015, at 4:16 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
 
 No, just considering this as a second car if the price would be right.
 
 Why, you want the S430?
 
 I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again:
 
 After the W140 Mercedes became a commodity, I think.  The styling does 
 nothing to distinguish the cars from any others on the road.  The fit and 
 finish isn’t that great, and the build quality is so-so.  Interiors look 
 fake and plasticky, not luxurious.
 
 The S430 is a good car, and I’m happy with it as transportation, but 
 unlike models that preceded it, it has no soul.
 
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[MBZ] Baggies?

[Fred Moir via Mercedes]

http://www.eeuroparts.com/Parts/64732/Accumulator-Rear-Suspension-Level-Control-03277/

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Re: [MBZ] Pelican Parts

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

San Diego, CA.

On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 12:02 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Where are they shipping from?
> Is there anyone on the list who might pick them up and mail them to you?
>
> RB
>
> On 03/09/2015 9:55 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Pelican Parts just called to tell me they cannot ship nitrogen chambers
>> (CA
>> hazmat rules) so the entire order had to be canceled.  Bummer.
>>
>> What's the name of the cheapo parts place in NC?
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 11:09 PM, Andrew Strasfogel > >
>> wrote:
>>
>> I just placed my first order from the online Pelican catalog.  Very
>>> pleasant experience!  Easy to find my parts. Prices are comparable to
>>> Autohaus, and free ground shipping takes just 4 days as opposed to 7.
>>> Check it out.
>>>
>>> 2 Febi Bilstein nitrogen chambers @ $93/75
>>> 2 liters Febi Bilstein sls fluid @ $10.25
>>> One SLS pump gsket @ $.75
>>>
>>> Andrew
>>> 1983 300TD - New rear flex hose, fluid still dirty
>>> 1985 300TD Bouncy ride soon to be addressed.
>>>
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Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

That's too easy.  The challenge is to catch the smartest wabbit in all of
suburban D.C.

On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 12:00 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
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> On 03/09/2015 9:50 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> I am not into "saving" the bunny.  I am merely protecting the hard work
>> and
>> investment in a small vegetable garden by attempting - fruitlesslly so far
>> - to humanely a wabbit and move him a few hundred yards away to a new
>> site.  How is this worse than killing and eating it?
>>
>>
>> Just put a chicken wire fence around your garden and leave the poor
> rabbit alone.
>
> RB
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[MBZ] Anyone Looking for a W123 Skid Plate?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Just came across this in the EPC.  One of those, “Wow, I knew these were around 
but never saw the listing for one” sort of things:

http://www.mbpartsworld.com/showAssembly.aspx?ukey_assembly=1087136_product=7809438

Not all that bad price-wise, either.

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 03/09/2015 9:50 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

I am not into "saving" the bunny.  I am merely protecting the hard work and
investment in a small vegetable garden by attempting - fruitlesslly so far
- to humanely a wabbit and move him a few hundred yards away to a new
site.  How is this worse than killing and eating it?


Just put a chicken wire fence around your garden and leave the poor 
rabbit alone.


RB

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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL?

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

There were posts, and I think a McMaster part 
number for that some years ago.  Not having a 
mcmaster any where near, and not wanting to pay 
$10 shipping for a 50¢ part, I take the copper 
washer for the OM603 (124) oil filter center 
bolt, as they are not used in the SDL, then put 
that copper washer over a needlenose pliers, and 
pull the pliers apart, stretching the washer 
oval.  Turn 90º and repeat.  repeat until the 
washer is big enough to fit over the alda guts, 
but still small enough to fit inside the threads.


A ring sizer or other  tapered round is good for 
changing it back in to a circle from the oval.  I 
don't have a ring sizer, so  I just do the best I 
can with the needlenose pliers.  It is not an 
exact science.


This results in a copper washer about 1/16" thick 
and maybe 2 mm wide in cross section.


There ore other ways to do it, but since I always 
have oil filters, one of these washers is always 
handy.  I throw the copper washers/rings etc I 
don't use into a can near the oil filter stash


I tried on in the 300D one tme, but it was 
overkill, so I took it out and jest left it the 
way it was.  That car had only about 200K miles 
at the time, so not too badly worn.  The winter 
heap SDL has about 500k miles.


If you had a steel ring sizer and a brass hammer, 
you can stretch the washer with those tools by 
tap and turn the same as a jeweler enlarges a 
ring.



Curly, is there a standard thickness for the 
proper shim, or do you use the Booth method?

--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On September 3, 2015 10:31:46 AM EDT, Curly 
McLain via Mercedes  
wrote:


I just shimmed the alda in my winter heap (finally) and it is much
better.  It accelerates with some spirit,  but still not what I'd
call properly tuned.  Still no puffs of soot when you get on it, but
it was sedate to the point of being near a 240D auto.




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Re: [MBZ] Baggies?

[Fred Moir via Mercedes]

Andrew.Not so far.Search 1403280515 and you will find a lot of suppliers.HTH

Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.

> Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2015 13:33:41 -0400
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Baggies?
> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> CC: astrasfo...@gmail.com
> 
> Thanks.  Any experience with these guys?
> 
> On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 1:25 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> >
> > http://www.eeuroparts.com/Parts/64732/Accumulator-Rear-Suspension-Level-Control-03277/
> >
> > Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.
  
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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL?

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 03/09/2015 9:20 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

Car souls are issued by the Car God doesn't everyone know that?

In the old days, when cars were built by real men, such things happened..
now that cars are built by committee and EPA regulations, souls are not
issued at birth, and have been deemed "politically incorrect" due to their
carbon footprint.

You know you are driving a car with a soul when you slam the accelerator to
the floor and the first conscious though you are capable of is "Ohhh
God!"...



Well, I don't know about that.
I don't get that sort of rush when I floor my old 77 horse diesel but I 
do think it has more soul than many cars I have driven.


RB

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Re: [MBZ] Pelican Parts

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Where are they shipping from?
Is there anyone on the list who might pick them up and mail them to you?

RB

On 03/09/2015 9:55 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Pelican Parts just called to tell me they cannot ship nitrogen chambers (CA
hazmat rules) so the entire order had to be canceled.  Bummer.

What's the name of the cheapo parts place in NC?

On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 11:09 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
wrote:


I just placed my first order from the online Pelican catalog.  Very
pleasant experience!  Easy to find my parts. Prices are comparable to
Autohaus, and free ground shipping takes just 4 days as opposed to 7.
Check it out.

2 Febi Bilstein nitrogen chambers @ $93/75
2 liters Febi Bilstein sls fluid @ $10.25
One SLS pump gsket @ $.75

Andrew
1983 300TD - New rear flex hose, fluid still dirty
1985 300TD Bouncy ride soon to be addressed.


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Re: [MBZ] Baggies?

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Thanks.  Any experience with these guys?

On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 1:25 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
> http://www.eeuroparts.com/Parts/64732/Accumulator-Rear-Suspension-Level-Control-03277/
>
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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

So in order to adjust the ALDA on the 603, you have to shim it as opposed to 
adjusting a screw like on the 617?

Dan

> On Sep 3, 2015, at 12:23 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> There were posts, and I think a McMaster part number for that some years ago. 
>  Not having a mcmaster any where near, and not wanting to pay $10 shipping 
> for a 50¢ part, I take the copper washer for the OM603 (124) oil filter 
> center bolt, as they are not used in the SDL, then put that copper washer 
> over a needlenose pliers, and pull the pliers apart, stretching the washer 
> oval.  Turn 90º and repeat.  repeat until the washer is big enough to fit 
> over the alda guts, but still small enough to fit inside the threads.
> 
> A ring sizer or other  tapered round is good for changing it back in to a 
> circle from the oval.  I don't have a ring sizer, so  I just do the best I 
> can with the needlenose pliers.  It is not an exact science.
> 
> This results in a copper washer about 1/16" thick and maybe 2 mm wide in 
> cross section.
> 
> There ore other ways to do it, but since I always have oil filters, one of 
> these washers is always handy.  I throw the copper washers/rings etc I don't 
> use into a can near the oil filter stash
> 
> I tried on in the 300D one tme, but it was overkill, so I took it out and 
> jest left it the way it was.  That car had only about 200K miles at the time, 
> so not too badly worn.  The winter heap SDL has about 500k miles.
> 
> If you had a steel ring sizer and a brass hammer, you can stretch the washer 
> with those tools by tap and turn the same as a jeweler enlarges a ring.
> 
> 
>> Curly, is there a standard thickness for the proper shim, or do you use the 
>> Booth method?
>> --
>> Max Dillon
>> Charleston SC
>> '87 300TD
>> '95 E300
>> 
>>> On September 3, 2015 10:31:46 AM EDT, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I just shimmed the alda in my winter heap (finally) and it is much
>>> better.  It accelerates with some spirit,  but still not what I'd
>>> call properly tuned.  Still no puffs of soot when you get on it, but
>>> it was sedate to the point of being near a 240D auto.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] This could have been a decent car

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 02/09/2015 7:10 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

But the interior was major hacked

1976 Mercedes 300D 61k Miles on Odometer
http://kansascity.craigslist.org/cto/5181418037.html



I don't know what to say about the cloth interior. Cannot say it really 
suits the car but I do understand the fact that  40 year old car gets worn.
My 76 300D has original interior but could use some work.  Whoever had 
the cloth interior installed should perhaps have picked something that 
looked more original but at least they spent some money to replace the 
interior that was no doubt in pretty rough shape.


I would very much doubt the mileage claim. It looks a whole lot worse 
than mine and I know my car has at least 113K miles. It showed 990 when 
I got it so it had rolled the odometer over at least the one time.
If it has mileage that low, it must have been left to sit outside for a 
long while without being driven.


They did a poor job of masking when they painted the car. There is 
overspray all over things like the windshield washer tank and aux fan.
The rad must be some sort of aftermarket item as the tank looks to be 
plastic.

The K filter seems odd on a vehicle like this.

The fuel filter looks odd too. Mine does not have a spin on filter. I 
have to remove the top and replace a cartridge filter.


RB



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Re: [MBZ] OT: Practical solar application

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

HF's panels are a scam, 45 watts for $180, Amazon has 100w for around $140 with 
the charge controller.
-Curt
  From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Cc: Rich Thomas  
 Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2015 1:57 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Practical solar application
   
I have been thinking about something similar for a shed I want to 
build.  Harbor Freight has some fairly cheap solar panels of not 
particularly high wattage, that would be cheap enough to do a test set 
up.  Buy one, hook it to a battery/inverter  (I think they might come 
with a 12V battery charger circuit but not sure) and see how much charge 
you can get out of the thing to keep a battery charged with some use.  
You might also want to look at the heat mats, a lot of those things are 
not direct 110V but use a transformer power supply to get, maybe, 12V or 
something similar, so you could possibly run them directly off a 
battery.  Or go to the junkyard and get some heating elements out of 
some car seats?  You can probably buy the heating wire too, I put it in 
my bathroom tile floor, it runs off 110V through some sort of box that 
might step it down, I don't know.  There is probably 12V heating element 
stuff out there somewhere, eBay is your friend.

HF also have some LED lights with a little solar panel to charge 
batteries for like $40, not sure the light output but again, cheap 
enough to test out.  Costco have been selling some LED shop lights, 
110V, that you could probably run off an inverter, not sure what they 
draw but you could check.  Or buy some 12V LED lights from China (I 
bought a load of 110V UG10 spots that are incredible and have been 
working fine for 6 months now, 12V is a standard too for those fancy 
track lights) and hook them up.  If you are interested I can send some 
links to the sockets and lights.  They don't use much amps for a lot of 
light.

You could probably get a reasonable set up for a coupla $100.  Or just 
run some conduit and a circuit out to the shed from the house...

--R

On 9/3/15 1:11 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> I would like to electrify my shed in the back 40 in order to provide 1)
> simple overhead lighting and 2) a 110V outlet for grow mats under my
> seedlings next spring.
>
> I might also want to recharge batteries for a B trimmer, although this is
> a lesser priority.
>
> There is a sunny spot where I could erect a solar panel, about 15' from the
> edge of the building.
>
> Anybody out there work with practical solar applications?
>
> Andrew
> Gentleman farmer and rabbit torturer
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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Not a think wrong with the Taurus or Sable.  They were good transportation 
providers for the price.  Very common, nothing distinctive about their design, 
blended in with everything else on the road of that vintage.

That’s the W220.

Dan


> On Sep 3, 2015, at 3:58 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hey, we had a Mercury Sable (as well as a Ford Taurus). They were not bad 
> cars.
> The Sable had electrical gremlins that bugged us but apart from that it was a 
> nice car. It rode well and had pretty decent power for a basic 3.0 pushrod 
> engine.
> 
> RB
> 


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Practical solar application

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

60' uphill.  :(


Easy!  all you need is a trenching spade, an afternoon, and a 100' 
roll of  #12 UF wire.  (12-2 with ground)


(oh, and a spare breaker  space in the panel)

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Practical solar application

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

So what you really need is a 100' extension cord for those times when you 
actually need power...
-Curt

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Cc: Andrew Strasfogel  
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 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Practical solar application
   
60' uphill.  :(

On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> What happened to renting a DitchWitch and buying a spool of direct burial
> cable?  How many feet is the run between the house and shed?
>
>
>
> > On Sep 3, 2015, at 2:40 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks, Rich.  The house and shed are too far apart to run a 110 V line
> > (got a quote for $2000 from a licensed electrician, half of which was for
> > digging a deep trench).
> >
> > I am still puzzled at how to plug in my heat mats into a solar setup.
> Send
> > me some links plesae.
> >
>
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[MBZ] UST cleanup

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

I guess I have known about the UST (Underground Storage Tank) outside
here, but the property is changing owners and so I guess they require
an environmental inspection.  I had forgotten the UST so I didn't
mention it over the past weeks of lookers.

Aside from the expensive excavation and verification of no leak, does
anyone here have experience with alternative clean-up methonds?
Perhaps a good environmental concoction of good bugs and a cleaning
might be less damaging to the property?
Thanks.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] This could have been a decent car

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Heritage something...
-Curt

  From: Randy Bennell 
 To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List 
 
 Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2015 4:38 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] This could have been a decent car
   
Excaliber?

RB



On 03/09/2015 3:32 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> We looked it up online though I can't remember the brand now, it supposedly 
> had a Chevy 350...
> -Curt
>        From: Randy Bennell 
>  To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List 
>
>  Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2015 4:16 PM
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] This could have been a decent car
>    
> On 03/09/2015 2:54 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>> Which reminds me I saw a Mercedes 500K replica car last week. From the 
>> street it looked good except for a scrape on one fender. On closer 
>> inspection the interior was NASTY, looked to have come out of a Chevy truck. 
>> No two gauges matched and all were much too modern looking. It also glided 
>> by us almost silently, none of the burble you'd expect from such a beast. I 
>> feel like if you were going to the trouble of building such a thing you 
>> ought to do a better job...
>> -Curt
>>
>>      
> Oooh! A Mercedes look alike kit car rat rod with a motor out of a Prius!
>
>
>
> RB
>
>
>    
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Practical solar application

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Go and buy a 100 foot power cord. Minimum 12/3. I saw one in a flyer 
this morning for $50 here and you can likely get it there for less.
That should be sufficient for your heating mats unless you are using a 
lot of them.
Don't expect any code issues if you just plug it in at the house and at 
the shed.


Get the LED lamp with the little solar panel to light the shed.

RB

On 03/09/2015 1:54 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

60' uphill.  :(

On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


What happened to renting a DitchWitch and buying a spool of direct burial
cable?  How many feet is the run between the house and shed?




On Sep 3, 2015, at 2:40 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

Thanks, Rich.  The house and shed are too far apart to run a 110 V line
(got a quote for $2000 from a licensed electrician, half of which was for
digging a deep trench).

I am still puzzled at how to plug in my heat mats into a solar setup.

Send

me some links plesae.



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Re: [MBZ] This could have been a decent car

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 03/09/2015 2:54 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

Which reminds me I saw a Mercedes 500K replica car last week. From the street 
it looked good except for a scrape on one fender. On closer inspection the 
interior was NASTY, looked to have come out of a Chevy truck. No two gauges 
matched and all were much too modern looking. It also glided by us almost 
silently, none of the burble you'd expect from such a beast. I feel like if you 
were going to the trouble of building such a thing you ought to do a better 
job...
-Curt




Oooh! A Mercedes look alike kit car rat rod with a motor out of a Prius!

RB

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Re: [MBZ] This could have been a decent car

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

We looked it up online though I can't remember the brand now, it supposedly had 
a Chevy 350...
-Curt
  From: Randy Bennell 
 To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List 
 
 Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2015 4:16 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] This could have been a decent car
   
On 03/09/2015 2:54 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> Which reminds me I saw a Mercedes 500K replica car last week. From the street 
> it looked good except for a scrape on one fender. On closer inspection the 
> interior was NASTY, looked to have come out of a Chevy truck. No two gauges 
> matched and all were much too modern looking. It also glided by us almost 
> silently, none of the burble you'd expect from such a beast. I feel like if 
> you were going to the trouble of building such a thing you ought to do a 
> better job...
> -Curt
>
>    

Oooh! A Mercedes look alike kit car rat rod with a motor out of a Prius!



RB


  
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Re: [MBZ] UST cleanup

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 03/09/2015 3:36 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes wrote:

I guess I have known about the UST (Underground Storage Tank) outside
here, but the property is changing owners and so I guess they require
an environmental inspection.  I had forgotten the UST so I didn't
mention it over the past weeks of lookers.

Aside from the expensive excavation and verification of no leak, does
anyone here have experience with alternative clean-up methonds?
Perhaps a good environmental concoction of good bugs and a cleaning
might be less damaging to the property?
Thanks.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Practical solar application

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Rich wrote:
> 
> 1" PVC conduit is cheap and no harder to bury than romex,
> plus you can run a phone line or something else in it too
> if you want.

PLEASE not in the same conduit!

NEC (National Electric Code) won't allow it - because it's
not very safe.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Practical solar application

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

There probably is if you look around.  It won’t be cheap, however.

Doing it yourself is really pretty easy.  As previously described, you only 
need three things:

PV panel

12V battery

Inverter (DC to AC)

Work backwards by calculating your load.  If you’ve got 100W of 110VAC load, 
you’ll need an inverter that can produce slightly more than that (120-150 
watts).  If you don’t want to discharge your battery a lot, make sure your PV 
output matches or exceeds the input to the inverter (all of this in wattage.)

It’s a good idea if you’re using a conventional battery to go with a deep cycle 
one, like the kind used for trolling motors.  They’re easy to locate any place 
that sells automotive batteries.

Some of your loads might be 12VDC, which can be fed directly off the battery/PV 
setup without even considering the inverter.  Their load will decrease the 
amount of power going to the inverter, but again, if the load on the inverter 
isn’t that high, it won’t matter.

Dan



> On Sep 3, 2015, at 3:46 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thanks - that helps.  I wonder why there is no simple kit that goes from PV
> to 110 V without all the interconnecting parapernalia, battery, inverters,
> etc.
> 


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Re: [MBZ] This could have been a decent car

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Which reminds me I saw a Mercedes 500K replica car last week. From the street 
it looked good except for a scrape on one fender. On closer inspection the 
interior was NASTY, looked to have come out of a Chevy truck. No two gauges 
matched and all were much too modern looking. It also glided by us almost 
silently, none of the burble you'd expect from such a beast. I feel like if you 
were going to the trouble of building such a thing you ought to do a better 
job...
-Curt

  From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
 To: Mercedes Discussion List  
Cc: Randy Bennell  
 Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2015 11:47 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] This could have been a decent car
   
On 02/09/2015 7:10 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> But the interior was major hacked
>
> 1976 Mercedes 300D 61k Miles on Odometer
> http://kansascity.craigslist.org/cto/5181418037.html
>

I don't know what to say about the cloth interior. Cannot say it really 
suits the car but I do understand the fact that  40 year old car gets worn.
My 76 300D has original interior but could use some work.  Whoever had 
the cloth interior installed should perhaps have picked something that 
looked more original but at least they spent some money to replace the 
interior that was no doubt in pretty rough shape.

I would very much doubt the mileage claim. It looks a whole lot worse 
than mine and I know my car has at least 113K miles. It showed 990 when 
I got it so it had rolled the odometer over at least the one time.
If it has mileage that low, it must have been left to sit outside for a 
long while without being driven.

They did a poor job of masking when they painted the car. There is 
overspray all over things like the windshield washer tank and aux fan.
The rad must be some sort of aftermarket item as the tank looks to be 
plastic.
The K filter seems odd on a vehicle like this.

The fuel filter looks odd too. Mine does not have a spin on filter. I 
have to remove the top and replace a cartridge filter.

RB





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