Re: Osmand: non-needed keep left/right

[Majka]

As far as I know, OsmAnd gives announcements depending on the road 
geometry. You can get announcement to "keep right/left", even if there is 
no other way to go.
The tagging has nothing to do with it.

On Thursday, 8 October 2020 22:32:39 UTC+2, Frapta wrote:
>
> So I would be looking at how the roads are tagged in OSM first. Would it 
> make sense? 
>

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Re: How to delete a custom map?

[Majka]

Find the Osmand data folder, inside find the "tiles" subfolder and a 
subfolder named the same as your custom map. Delete this subfolder or move 
it elsewhere.

On Wednesday, 9 September 2020 13:31:55 UTC+2, Me My wrote:
>
>
> Hello all,
> how can i delete a previously created custom map?
>
> Thanks
>

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Re: Profile settings export/import fiasco

[Majka]

Just 2 short notes:
1. The folder depends on your settings, you can check directly in the app 
where you have to look for it.
2. Do not edit the xml files directly (overwriting the default settings), 
make a copy and rename it (both the file and the profile within). Otherwise 
you might loose your changes on update.

On Friday, 4 September 2020 21:20:42 UTC+2, KilgoreT wrote:
>
> Finally I found the way of importing ALL settings. If you have a root go 
> to the root/data/data/net.Osmand/sharedprefs
>
> There you will find bunch of xml files where are settings. You can import 
> and swap this folder form another device or you can edit xml files.
>

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Re: Directions Coming Too Late

[Majka]

I can see here two or three possible reasons:
1. problem with the phone: it would mean OsmAnd gets the wrong position (it 
"sees" itself further back in the road than it is, the GPS info is delayed)
2. problem with the phone: the position correct but OsmAnd for some reason 
react too late (RAM?)
3. problem with the route itself.

I see as probable either 1 or 2, what phone are you using? You might be 
able to see it if you zone at your current position - it would show you at 
the place the phone sees you.

For 3: 
How are you navigating? Along the downloaded route, or do you leave OsmAnd 
navigate you?
If you load the route and inspect it, does it correspond with the roads you 
see on the screen?

Majka

On Wednesday, 26 August 2020 16:51:04 UTC+2, Eric Benton wrote:
>
> Anyone have any ideas?
>
> On Friday, August 21, 2020 at 11:05:50 AM UTC-4 Eric Benton wrote:
>
>>
>> Hey, all. Sorry if this has been posted before, but I searched and 
>> couldn't find anything. Maybe due to wording, but hey, here we are. I just 
>> started using the app for cycling routes and I'm relatively happy with how 
>> detailed the offline directions are, but they are always 200-400ft behind 
>> where I actually am. I'll get a "Turn in 200ft" prompt after I've already 
>> passed the turn pretty often. Or, more often, the app will tell me to turn 
>> as I'm already 75% through the turn. Any idea what setting I can mess with 
>> to fix this? Maybe it has to do with the gpx files I'm downloading from 
>> Strava? Thanks in advance.
>>
>

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Re: highway=steps in bicycle profile

[Majka]

Not sure about your version - I am using latest from FDroid, resp. latest 
beta. 

You can set there the bicycle profile to avoid steps (Navigation > Settings 
> Avoid...)

If you cannot find it, you need to wait for the update :)

Majka

On Monday, 10 August 2020 13:17:54 UTC+2, Florian Lohoff wrote:
>
> Hi, 
>
> last week i had the issue that OSMAnd tried to sent me through a 
> highway=steps with my bike. I just quickly opened an OSM Note 
> convinced that it must be a tagging issue: 
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/2296491 
>
> The way in question only carries a highway=steps and yes - in bicycle 
> profile it gets used. 
>
> A little to the east there is another steps which carries a bicycle=no 
> which is not used. 
>
> Does OSMAnd have some issues with steps for bikes? 
>
> Flo 
> -- 
> Florian Lohoff f...@zz.de 
>  
> UTF-8 Test: The  ran after a , but the  ran away 
>

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Re: Error report: "Standard map" correct at a specific point, but not "Bike map" and others

[Majka]

On Friday, 31 July 2020 10:21:40 UTC+2, Karl Eke wrote:
>
> Still cannot make it to work. 
> Changed the road to ""minor/unclassified" did not help. 
> Then changed to residential did not help either. 
> Any suggestions? Or trouble shooting ideas?
>

Time... You are looking on layers which don't update very fast, you have 
simply wait for new rendering.

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Re: Could not read GPX data

[Majka]

I *think *I know the solution for you.
In OsmAnd, open menu, and switch on Modules >"Trip recording" on. This one 
should register the gpx file type for the OsmAnd app. Close OsmAnd (swipe 
off to completely close) and try to open the gpx file again.

Majka


On Monday, 27 July 2020 18:34:15 UTC+2, John Rowe wrote:
>
> I tried opening it within the app.  When I try from file manager it says 
> 'None of your apps can open this file'.  I tried reinstalling OSMAnd+ and 
> no different.  The app seems to work ok in other respects - I can download 
> and view maps, get directions, etc.  I'm a newbie to Android - is there 
> something else i need to do to set up the app?
> Thanks
>

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Re: Could not read GPX data

[Majka]

On Monday, 27 July 2020 18:06:30 UTC+2, John Rowe wrote:
>
> Here you go, thanks
> John
>

No problem in my case. How did you try to open it?

You can: 

   - Find the file with file explorer, without opening Osmand.  When you 
   try to open the file, Osmand should come as one of the possible targets. 
   This is what I have done.
   - Put the file in the Osmand/tracks/ subfolder, or a subfolder of the 
   same (Osmand/tracks/whatever/), and you can find it under my places / 
   tracks. Select the file and from the menu next to it "Display on the map"

Majka

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Re: Could not read GPX data

[Majka]

Could you post an example of one file? GPX is a very broad format, there 
might be something Osmand doesn't understand.

On Monday, 27 July 2020 17:26:08 UTC+2, John Rowe wrote:
>
> I've just bought a ulefone rugged Android phone to use for navigation when 
> cycling and I purchased OSMAnd+.  Unfortunately I can't get my gpx files to 
> load. Whatever I try gives me the message  "Could not read GPX data" even 
> though the files are visible to select within the app.  I have tried files 
> I know load ok on my Mac.  I have tried transferring the files in different 
> ways - saving direct to phone, sending via email to phone.  I've tried 
> files from other people that don't use Mac and always the same result.  Can 
> anyone help?
>

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Re: Seems to have stopped working

[Majka]

Map folder (look around, I don't have it in English): Settings > Osmand 
settings > Data folder 

You should see the exact folder written under the general name 
(Intern/Extern/...). In your case, it is problably Apps internal memory or 
something like this.
Check that you see the same folder here as you have found in memory ( 
Device storage/Android/data/net.osmand )

I had similar problem, rewriting the part "/sdcard/" to 
"/storage/emulated/0" helped in my case. No idea why it didn't "take" the 
aliased folder, other apps didn't need it. In your case, I would suspect 
the "device storage" part.

Yes, the obf files are maps. You could move the complete contents of the  
Device storage/Android/data/net.osmand folder somewhere else, uninstall 
Osmand and reinstall it. Start it, check where it wants to install the 
data. Move the "old" contents to this new folder.

Don't uninstall Osmand without moving or renaming the folder first, this 
one would be almost certainly deleted on uninstall.

Majka

On Saturday, 25 July 2020 01:37:30 UTC+2, Brian Cockburn wrote:
>
> Hi Majka,
>
> Dumb control question: Do you have the map displayed? (Profile > Map 
>> source > Vector maps)
>>
>
>   I believe so.  Menu->Configure map->Map source... is set to Offline 
> vector maps.
>  
>
>> Where your maps are put?
>>
>
>   How can I find out?  I use whatever the default location is.  I have 
> never done anything to change this.  
>
>   I just looked with the My Files app; Device 
> storage/Android/data/net.osmand contains files that may be the maps.  Files 
> like Australia-oceania_victoria_australia-oceania.obf which is 228 MB and 
> World_basemap.obf which is 293 MB.  The dates on these files are recent 
> because I updated them in the hopes of fixing the problem.  Older maps that 
> haven't been updated recently are also there with appropriate names, sizes, 
> and dates.
>
>   Thanks, Brian.
>
>

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Re: Seems to have stopped working

[Majka]

Dumb control question: Do you have the map displayed? (Profile > Map source 
> Vector maps)

Where your maps are put? Try to set manually permissions for OsmAnd 
(reading sd card). On some systems, the question simply won't come up even 
if needed.

If this won't help, either rename in a file explorer the folder, where 
these are set up, or move them out somewhere else. Start again with "no" 
maps. You might need to change the default map location, I had once to move 
it from /sdcard/ to the expanded version of the same (/mnt/), even if both 
point at the exactly same folder.
If this works (download just the word map and one smallish map to check), 
you could move all the old maps back.

On Thursday, 23 July 2020 07:30:45 UTC+2, Brian Cockburn wrote:
>
>
> Hi,
>
>   I have been having problems with OsmAnd today.  It is installed on my 
> Samsung Tab S 8.4 (SM-T705Y) which has Android 6.0.1 and can't get anything 
> newer.  This installation has worked fine for many years.
>
>   I selected the App and got the oft seen 'new features' message for what 
> is now 3.7.4, but now there is no map data (roads etc) displayed and my 
> saved routes (previous walks) are showing (against an empty white screen), 
> but are now thick purple lines rather than thin read lines.
>
>   I have updated the base map and the local map (Victoria, Australia) to 
> no avail.  If I zoom out far enough I see the green shape of the state of 
> Victoria but still no other detail.  I have other local maps loaded (e.g. 
> the East of England) but don't see these in green.  They are in need of 
> updating (so show with the orange flag in the Map->Local list) but I have 
> not done that (no need at the moment).
>
>   I've cleared the tablet's cache from the boot menu.  Any suggestions as 
> to what to try next?
>
>   Thanks, Brian.
>

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Re: Useful Companion Apps for OsmAnd

[Majka]

On Saturday, 18 July 2020 05:14:57 UTC+2, A Thompson wrote:
>
>
> It's so tantalising! If OsmAnd could recognise tiles called *.jpg as well 
> as *.jpg.tile then QGIS would be an all-in-one user-friendly solution.
>

The need to rename the tiles has another disadvantage - several map apps 
use the same tiles (jpg/png) without the renaming. For example, if you are 
using OsmAnd and Locus for geocaching at the same time, to use such map in 
both, you would need the same tiles twice - once renamed and once as 
generated.

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Help with custom renderer

[Majka]

Can anybody help me with custom renderer? 

I would like to visualise the roads with vehicle:conditional = no @ (from - 
to) tag, for example here 
<https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/262097236#map=13/48.9607/14.6741>. The 
processing of dates to get just the active ones might be too complicated 
for the renderer, so just the "simple" existence of vehicle:conditional = 
no or even just the presence of this tag would be fine.

The idea is to display roads closed due to roadworks. The navigation 
already avoids these, but I would like to see it on the map as well.

I tried to hack some custom profiles but cannot manage it.

Thanks,

Majka

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Re: Custom renderer adds options to control aspects of contour lines and walking routes

[Majka]

On Tuesday, 5 September 2017 03:28:37 UTC+2, A Thompson wrote:
>
> Building on the embryonic version I posted some time ago, I hope others 
> find this as useful as I do!
>
> 
>
>

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Re: Navigation - GPS signal lost when screen is locked

[Majka]

Additionally, you may need to switch on "keep app in background". I had to 
switch it on explicitly, even if the battery optimisation is off on my 
phone. In settings, find the app and check: Battery > Keep app in 
background 
You can the check that all the apps you need are switched on:

You have to set this for Osmand itself. If you are using non-system TTS 
engine for navigation, this one needs it as well. Should you be using 
BRouter as alternative navigation from inside of Osmand, that is another 
app that will probably need it.

And check in permission that you have given all the permissions the app 
might need. Some older apps are not asking for them.

Majka

On Thursday, 11 June 2020 18:42:14 UTC+2, Nick A wrote:
>
> This may relate to Android 10 setting for Location services. For your 
> phone, click on the cog for 'settings', and then search for 'Location' - 
> this will bring up a list of all apps. I've moved all of the apps that I 
> use for navigation etc from 'Allowed only while in use' to 'Allowed all the 
> time'. Click on the app and then chose which category for it. 
>
> Good luck, and I'd be interested to know if this solves your problem. 
>
> Regards
>
> Nick
> OSM = Tallguy
>

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Re: Navigation voice stops working - help I am lost

[Majka]

Are you using text-to-speak of the phone? 
Because every time I have seen this, the reason was the phone, not the 
navigation. The text-to-speak runs in background, and sometimes the phone 
will kill it as "unnecessary".

On Tuesday, 3 December 2019 10:55:55 UTC+1, Gavinx wrote:
>
> Thanks Helmut, I have checked everything here and there were no surpises 
> but I will have to give it a test.
>
>>
>>

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Re: Incorrect route via the bridge

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On Wednesday, 28 August 2019 15:45:20 UTC+2, Mikhail Kasadzhikov wrote:
>
> I am a traveler not a mapper and not familiar with tags, properties and so 
> on. I don't understand: is this a bug in osmand or in the OSM data?
>

IMHO, the bug was in both, but more in the data then in the apps. In the 
data, there was a point connecting the bridge with the underlaying road. 
The apps didn't check that this point did connect ways on different layers.
I deleted it and it should help.

You'll need to wait for the new maps in both apps and this takes time.

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Re: All my maps are gone!

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On Tuesday, 27 August 2019 21:44:23 UTC+2, J Albrecht wrote:
>
>
> Same thing happened to me last week! Something “ate” my external micro SD 
> card and rendered it totally useless on my phone. It's completely 
> inaccessible. However, when put into a card reader, I can access the 
> contents on my Macbook without a problem.
>
>
This one is different. I suspect just the "access" to the SD card in the 
phone is corrupted (the phone is simply not seeing it correctly). There 
might be a partial solution - copy the contents to the Macbook, format the 
SD card in the phone, and copy the data back (the individual directories, 
not the whole lot). I wouldn't do it, there might be something wrong with 
the SD card and it might be time to replace it to avoid a real data 
corruption.

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Re: All my maps are gone!

[Majka]

On Tuesday, 27 August 2019 21:24:36 UTC+2, Tom Norton wrote:
>
> Today while traveling I went to use Osmand on my phone and all my maps 
> were gone! Just a screen about signing up.
> What happened?!
> We just cycled for 3 months in Europe and had no problem.


Are the map really gone? Try to get a look using a file explorer. If you 
can find the maps on the phone, probably only the directory OsmAnd is 
looking into was reset. In such case - I would move the maps into the new 
directory. Simply setting the data path to the old directory should do the 
trick, I am using it without problems. But if you are on the road, I 
wouldn't risk that something goes wrong there.

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Re: Issues with GPS fix in mountain areas

[Majka]

On Sunday, 18 August 2019 21:32:11 UTC+2, Manu EL wrote:
>
> I've done some testing. I use GPS only, no A-GPS. Mobile connection is off 
> (airplane mode).
>
> Testing
> In the village (900m above sea level) : everything is fine with the GPS.
> In the mountains (> 1000m) : I start the smartphone. I open 'GPS Test' app 
> => I get a GPS fix. Then I put the app in the background or lock the 
> screen, then I reselect the app => impossible to get a fix
> Same behaviour with Osmand. Same when I close the app and then relaunch it.
>
> Workaround 1
> In GPS Test, I go in the A-GPS menu, do 'clear cache' or 'clear & update'. 
> Still no fix in GPS Test. But if I send GPS Test in the background then 
> select Osmand, I get a fix after 1 minute in Osmand (would be the same with 
> GPS Test : if I send GPS Test in the background then reselect GPS Test, I 
> get a fix after 1 minute in GPS Test). This workaround can be used in 
> emergency but is not convenient. My hypothesis is that the GPS cache is 
> somehow corrupted when the app is sent to background or closed. Any app 
> launched at this point will fail to get a fix, until the GPS cache is 
> cleared.
>
> Workaround 2
> In Osmand, I start a trace recording with recording interval set to 3 
> minutes (to preserve battery). From this point, I can send Osmand in the 
> background or lock the screen without losing the GPS fix. It may consume a 
> bit of battery, but at least, I can use the GPS in mountains. That's great.
>
> This is a strange bug, considering it happens only in altitude, or 
> depending on some other parameters I'm not aware of. 
>
> If anybody thinks about a real fix for this issue, please tell me!!
>

Another vote for battery saving. GPS is usually first to go. Track 
recording pokes hard the usage, so it won't get "optimised".

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Re: Camp sites not showing up in POI list, present on one S5 device but not another S5

[Majka]

Maybe this message 
 from last 
September will help - how to set the "campsite" category as custom search.

On Friday, 2 August 2019 11:41:05 UTC+2, David wrote:
>
> I have never seen a 'main category' campsite, just tourism, wich includes 
> campsites.
> could it be that a personal category campsite was created on your one 
> phone?
> my personal categories all have a head as icon. or does yours have a tent 
> as icon?

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Re: Touring View

[Majka]

On Saturday, 13 July 2019 16:37:12 UTC+2, Tom Norton wrote:
>
> Maybe it is my imagination but there seems to be more detail as we re 
> cycling through the Czech Republic countryside.


IMHO, the touring view has not more details, but slightly less then the 
general one. The difference is WHAT is shown, when the map is "full" - and 
here it puts roads and tracks (and perhaps paths) in the foreground. The 
"noise" in densely mapped areas in the general view can hide just what you 
are interested in when cycling through the countryside. In towns, the 
general (bike) view might be slightly better.

You will notice the difference best in the densely mapped areas (Germany, 
Czech Republic, ...).

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Re: What's up with map updates?

[Majka]

On Tuesday, 9 July 2019 22:42:08 UTC+2, Martin Trautmann wrote:
>
> But as you tell me, using Osmand Live would require BOTH delta updates, 
> as well as a monthly full (proper?) reload of the maps? 
>
> Schönen Gruß 
> Martin 
>
>
No, you need ONE full download of the map. Then, depending on the frequency 
and size of the changes, you simply download the deltas (live update) as 
you want/need. Some time later (might be several months or even years), 
OsmAnd MIGHT be slowing down, because you'll work with the "normal" file + 
several separate delta files. Then, it is time to download the full map 
again. This will remove the deltas, and you can start again. But apart of 
the possible slow-down, there is nothing there needing the new full 
download, you can simply continue with the live updates only.

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Re: Lizenz Umzug auf neues Handy

[Majka]

Ganz einfach, falls es über Google Play gekauft wurde. Mit der gleichen 
Anmeldung kann Osmand+ kostenlos geladen werden.

On Wednesday, 10 July 2019 10:34:59 UTC+2, H.K. wrote:
>
>
> Hallo, ich muß mir leider ein neues Handy zulegen. Auf dem Alten war eine 
> Lizenz von Osmand+. Kann ich die irgendwie auf das neue Handy übertragen, 
> bzw. die Berechtigung zur Benützung beim Download angeben?
>

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Re: Custom rendering minzoom level can't go lower than 14

[Majka]

I am not sure, but about this zoom there is a switch from the local map to 
the global one (worldwide). It might well be that the data are not there 
any more - the world map has strongly stripped down data inside.

On Monday, 8 July 2019 15:43:23 UTC+2, Ivan Sams wrote:
>
> I am trying to create a map style that better represents inland waterways 
> than the default or nautical styles do. My first goal is to make waterways 
> features more prominent by setting icons for them and ensuring they are 
> displayed at higher zoom levels, starting with the feature 
> `waterway=lock_gate`.
>
> This tag appears 3 times in the `default.render.xml`:
>
>  textWrapWidth="30" textOrder="212"/>
>
>  icon="waterway_lock_gate_small">
> 
> 
>
>  color="#7799">
> 
> 
> 
>
> I added ` icon="seamark_lock_gate"` to the first of these, and I updated 
> all of these minzoom values to 11. The icon correctly displays, but at zoom 
> 14 or less the icon stops displaying.
>
>
>

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Re: What's up with map updates?

[Majka]

As the live update works with tiny files (just the diffs), the live update 
system won't need much processing power in comparison with the complete 
map. I can understand why the live updates are working well and the normal 
maps are struggling.

What I would prefer would be free live update for mappers instead of the 
current schema. I am active mapper myself, but the current method is 
promoting low-quality edits, IMHO. It is counting only the number of 
changesets, not the number and quality of changes. In theory, the most 
problematic and discussed mapper active in our country , who we had to stop 
several times, would get paid for the problems he brings into the map. He 
just didn't ask for the payment, as far as I can see.

On Thursday, 4 July 2019 07:30:29 UTC+2, Mark Begbie wrote:
>
> I totally get that the map updates are getting more complex.  I'm trying 
> to build New Zealand on a Win 10 Core i7 with 8GB of RAM and struggling.
>
> What I do NOT get at all, is how on the one hand it takes almost a month 
> to update the map for one group of users and yet for another group it's 
> done hourly.  Something just smells really bad about that.
>
> I get, too, that developers need to find ways to deliver recurrent revenue 
> and one time subscriptions with forever map downloads doesn't deliver 
> that.  Perhaps ending the one-time payment option would be a way to go?  I 
> don't know.  Getting a little off topic now, but another thing that worries 
> me is the mapper payments reference in the OSMAnd live information.  I 
> spend a lot of time mapping, and I don't expect to be paid.  What worries 
> me though, is if there's a precedent set for paying for content it could 
> upset and derail the whole free input free output model that the OSM data 
> set is built on.  Payments should relate to value add services on top of 
> the data, which should be available to all.
>

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Re: GPX records nothing

[Majka]

On Monday, 1 July 2019 18:15:23 UTC+2, Robert Lienert wrote:
>
>
> Hi Majka
>
> - In the Fairphone OS > Places > OsmAnd+ > authorizations: I give all 
> rights (Cam, Micro, Memory, Places)
>   --> no improvement
>

Try to restart the phone. The "Memory" authorization should be the correct 
one.

No idea otherwise.

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Re: GPX records nothing

[Majka]

Can you check that OsmAnd has write access? This is usually the culprit for 
some phones. Check OsmAnd permissions, on some systems it has to be set 
manually, the app won't ask for it.

On Monday, 1 July 2019 17:16:47 UTC+2, Robert Lienert wrote:
>
> Unfortunately the app doesn't give me any of the stretches I put back and 
> also the duration always stays at zero. All other settings I have already 
> checked several times and I see no reason why this should not work. That's 
> why I joined this group and hope for a solution.
>
> I would be pleased about further answers.
>
> But I also ask in the Fairphone community for a solution.
>
>
> Am Montag, 1. Juli 2019 16:57:17 UTC+2 schrieb Bart Eisenberg:
>>
>> If you're seeing your current location, then you're right, it doesn't 
>> seem like a hardware problem. To answer your question, if you start 
>> recording a GPX, you should see your distance traveled next to the red 
>> indicator on the GPX button. And if you're set up on My places > tracks > 
>> Currently recording track, you should see the track itself as you're 
>> recording it.
>>
>> If no better idea is forthcoming, you might take a look at Plugins > Trip 
>> recording > Settings, though I'm not sure if any of these would prevent the 
>> track from being recorded. 
>>
>

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Re: How to disable auto update?

[Majka]

On Tuesday, 18 June 2019 16:02:22 UTC+2, Erik van den Boom wrote:
>
> I know that and I did that, but in spite of that I found after some 
> Android safety update a 3.3 version instead of the installed 3,2. This 
> happened already twice.
>
> On Tuesday, 18 June 2019 14:09:22 UTC+2, Metaluc wrote:
>>
>> Auto update setting enable-disable is in the Google play store app.
>
>
Are you using the free version?

If yes, it should be possible to bypass the Play Store completely. Ideally, 
install the older FDroid version, this will certainly isolate the app. The 
current version then could stay, you would need to copy the files from the 
OsmAnd folder to avoid downloading the maps again.

You have to allow installing apks from outside of Play Store and maybe even 
disable checking of installed apps in Play Store. After every Play Store 
update, you have to check its settings again - the last few versions keep 
disabling my settings. Your problem otherwise is that you keep fighting the 
system (the Play Store / Google settings). With current Android / Play 
Store this is not easy - and is perhaps even impossible - to win.

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Re: Change default folder for tracks

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IMHO, you cannot change just the folder for gpx tracks. What you can do is 
use FolderSync 

 to 
sync this "extra" folder automatically to cloud storage. There are other 
solutions, using similar method - you would have the gpx track twice on 
your phone, once in Osmand, once in sync-able folder.

On Thursday, 13 June 2019 18:31:35 UTC+2, Joachim Seehusen wrote:
>
>
> I am unable to figure out how to change the default storage forlder for 
> gpx-tracks. I have made a dropbox-folder on my phone, but as far as I can 
> see, the only way to move the tracks is one by one.
> Please tell me I have overlooked something. I want to be able to open the 
> tracks from mye computer, use GPS babel, and then take them into Garmin 
> Basecamp. So far, the only thing missing is to change the default storage 
> location within Osmand.
>

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Re: Osmand claims it uses elevation data - but it doesn't

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For bicycle, there is similar rule - the principle is the same, it just 
uses different values. Of course, the differences are here much bigger 
(easy ride x race). But as a rule of the thumb, I would suggest something 
around speed 20 km/h and 800 vertical meter / h for "faster" and 15 km/h 
and 600 Vm/h for "easier" or lighter off road (tracks, easy paths). 

Ideally, allow the user to manually set the numbers as variables - better 
trained/experienced people usually know their current numbers. There is a 
marked difference between my numbers in February/March and in July/August 
for the same route, ridden with no extra effort :)
The same - make use of user-set variables (or preset values) would work for 
walking as well.

On Monday, 3 June 2019 03:01:04 UTC+2, A Thompson wrote:
>
> In an update to OsmAnd about a year ago, they introduced for the first 
> time Naismith's rule to factor elevation into the calculation of WALKING 
> times. Back then, I tested it and it worked. Numerous refinements to 
> Naismith's rule  have been proposed, but a fundamental uncertainty is one's 
> personal physical capabilities. I don't know anything about the bicycle 
> case, but I suspect that the variability from person to person (even for a 
> typical user) would be even greater?
>
> In the long term, it ought to be possible for apps like OsmAnd to 
> automatically calibrate to our recorded behaviour!
>

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Re: Road Surfaces??

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Are you sure the surface is in the data (meaning mapped)? 

If the surface is in OSM (not many roads have this), you can display it on 
the map as well as in details of the calculated route. But just an example 
in my town, from random route:

distance 4,6 km, surface asphalt 2,33 km, unknown 2,41 km
another one:
distance 8 km, surface ground 1,81 km, asphalt 829 m, unknown 5 km

in both cases, "unknown" would be asphalt, it is just not mapped (it is 
taken as default for the category of the road)

On Sunday, 2 June 2019 20:15:54 UTC+2, Tom Norton wrote:
>
> Okay, I did it but I just see my route line. How do I see the road surface?

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Re: Only a coarse white map

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On Thursday, 23 May 2019 12:31:21 UTC+2, mikael wrote:
>
>
> I'm trying to use the default view, scroll around the map and it would 
> load new map data real time. Just as with google maps.
>

Did you set it up correctly for online maps 
<https://osmand.net/features/online-maps-plugin#How_to_use> use?

Most people don't want to replicate how google maps are working, the 
advantage of OsmAnd are the offline maps. You have to download these - see 
here <https://osmand.net/features/start#Ways_to_download_maps_android>.

After the install, you have to set it up, it won't magically start to work 
from alone. But the app is guiding you on install, it just looks like you 
are ignoring what it says to you :)

Majka

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Re: Only a coarse white map

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On Thursday, 23 May 2019 11:01:56 UTC+2, mikael wrote:
>
> I added permission to storage. Maybe I'm using it wrong - does it work 
> only with offline maps? Or should it download the displayed area 
> automatically as in google maps?
>

What device do you use? 

On xiaomi devices, for example, you have permit the access to network (wifi 
and/or cellular). If the device doesn't ask for it, you have to add it 
manually. The same for the storage permission in some cases.
If you cannot see any map, I suspect you don't have the permission to 
network. The app tries, but nothing comes back...

There are two different maps - downloaded through the app, and online ones 
for some providers. The online ones can be cached (move the map around, let 
download everything you might need and you have it there for the future). 
Not sure which one you are trying to see.

Majka

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Re: Only a coarse white map

[Majka]

Perhaps a dumb idea - but does Osmand have the permission to access net 
(Wifi/mobile data)?

On Monday, 20 May 2019 16:45:00 UTC+2, mikael wrote:
>
>
> Using latest Android OsmAnd, it doesn't load any maps. I tried the app a 
> year ago and had same issue.
>

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Re: public_transport feature suggestion

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On Monday, 6 May 2019 11:25:03 UTC+2, Roberto Inzerillo wrote:
>
> I stand corrected. Osmand shows bus routings even for 
> public_transport=platform nodes. It's just that it shows old routes only :-(
>
> I am improving public_transport in a region and was having no feedback on 
> osmand even with "Osmand live" turned on. It looks like osmand doesn't rely 
> on "Osmand live" updates for public_transport data as I first thought, but 
> on the monthly updates only. After one of those updates I got access to a 
> lot more data about bus routing than before.
>

For a car routing you have to allow use of live data, otherwise it will 
work with the monthly data you have downloaded only.

I would expect that it will work just the same for bus routing -> you have 
to explicitly allow in the settings the use of live data for routing. It is 
marked as experimental feature.

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Re: Two Versions, one folder

[Majka]

It is possible but only if your system lets you. Usually, the restriction 
has nothing to do with OsmAnd and everything with Android.

Check, if you can move the path on both directly to an OsmAnd folder in 
your device's root directory. But don't forget first to backup your data 
(simply copy it somewhere else, then, change the data directory in OsmAnd, 
then, copy the data to this directory).


On Thursday, 25 April 2019 10:02:03 UTC+2, Osmandtrier wrote:
>
> I want to compare  two versions of Osmand. But every version wants to use 
> his own folder. I tried to change in the settings of version A the  path to 
> the path of version B. But version A denied this change. Any other 
> possibilities to use two osmand versions, but using only one folder? 
>

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Re: Own overlay map: controlling zoom

[Majka]

Just a note - you can backup the complete Osmand data folder or just a parts of 
it. Doing it before reinstallation is a good idea. Regular backup of the track 
folder is another one. Just a copy in some other folder on the device, ideally 
on different memory, is enough. 
Additionally, usually the data are still there - just in a different folder 
than the "new" installation expects it. 

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Re: Downloading European maps

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Just a note - decide, if you need the complete map (with all the details > 
standard map) or just the road map for car navigation. For car navigation, 
the road map of the complete country might be enough and OsmAnd would 
probably work faster with the stripped-down data. 
If you are going to drive just on the motorways and main roads, the road 
map is more than enough.

Of course every user needs different level of details. IMHO, for most users 
just looking for a map where they will just go through a country in a car 
(the fastest/best way they can), the standard map is an overkill.

On Wednesday, 10 April 2019 13:45:16 UTC+2, Tom Norton wrote:
>
> Thanks for your replies!
> I have found,with Poland, that the Standard map seems to not download as 
> easily as the individual Regions. This has happened on different devices.
> But I do have the maps!

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Re: How do I get rid of the flags

[Majka]

The problem is that you are mixing two different things here: You are 
looking for "Favoris" but working with "Marqueurs". Favourites have no 
history tab and have another intended use from the flags - to permanently 
mark a point on the map.

The flags are meant to work as temporary marking (when setting points half 
way through a route, for example. Not sure you can avoid it, if this is the 
case (you are using the favourites to set a temporary route point for 
navigation). But - it is only a change on screen, not in the favourites 
itself. These stay as they are; you can still display them on the map. 
Nothing changed there. Do you have "Display favourites on map" switched on?

"Your" problem seems to be twofold:
1. the "real" favourites are not set to show on the map
2. the markers are 

As soon as you use the (hidden) favourite for navigation, OsmAnd creates 
additional marker. This is what you see - not the underlaying favourite but 
the temporary marker, which isn't cleared after you stop using it.

Btw, if you have many favourites, it is better to put them into a gpx 
file(s) and display this as needed (put it into the track subfolder 
manually, do not import it. Then, you can "Display the track" only when you 
need it, and not have it all the time on. This works for me as a method how 
to to get independent "categories" of my own waypoints. The "track" doesn't 
have to be a real track in the gpx file, strictly speaking. It is enough to 
have just POIs inside the file. For OsmAnd, there is no difference for use 
on the screen - it will display both types, the POIs as stars. The track 
color then decides the color of the stars.

On Wednesday, 10 April 2019 20:41:39 UTC+2, Nicolas wrote:
>
> Hi. After an update a few months ago, most of my star markers have turned 
> into flags. They still appear when I go in the my star menu, but on the map 
> they appear as flags. When I tried to get rid of them in the flag menu, 
> they turned gray and went into the History tab. When I tried to remove them 
> they completely disappear from my map. And then after a while, they come 
> back as flags on my map again. This is really annoying, how do I get rid of 
> all those nasty flags and have my stars back on my map?
> (my interface is in French, stars are "Favoris", flags are "Marqueurs")
>

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Re: How to get the MTB single trail difficulty scale in Osmand?

[Majka]

Look at the the picture I had attached in my previous post - the ratings 
are there, color coded exactly how it should be according the OsmAnd 
legend. In the second picture 
<https://01027865525950270145.googlegroups.com/attach/7ce896e25b4f7/Screenshot_2019-04-10-00-05-27-672_net.osmand.plus.png?part=0.2=1=ANaJVrFJ2IiazCz9cme-AWUFNX0RzeXoQ5lLrOoORMVBdmBHCRRcHFw1sPyuquoDCIvRKVpnfGRu3jkh2q8juu28Jl_IXImiWOEWCWr_mIsEcpT5jRXzhxI>
 
there are almost all difficulties and difficulties upwards you can have at 
the trail.

On Wednesday, 10 April 2019 19:26:22 UTC+2, Max Schädel wrote:
>
> Mhh, I am not sure anymore if we are talking about the same issue... I 
> want to see the mtb singletrail difficulty right in the map, linke you can 
> see in the screeshot of komoot below. In the other screenshot from 
> openstreetmap.org 
> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fopenstreetmap.org=D=1=AFQjCNG2WFTvmHx7q6waA1AslMArMbf7jQ>
>  
> you can see, that there is the rating available.
>
> [image: Screenshot_20190410-192046_Komoot.jpg]
>
> [image: openstreetmap.org.JPG]
>
>
>
> I just can't see it in osmand...
>
>
>
> Am Mittwoch, 10. April 2019 09:21:48 UTC+2 schrieb Majka:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, 9 April 2019 21:50:28 UTC+2, Max Schädel wrote:
>>>
>>> Can someone find the problem?
>>>
>>
>> Just for you: You are looking for information missing in the map. Most of 
>> the tracks are not marked with mtb:scale but as route:mtb. This is however 
>> not the difficulty, this just says there is a route marked for mountain 
>> bikes.
>>
>> See mtbmap.cz <http://mtbmap.cz/#zoom=14=49.41714=7.96714> , 
>> only the ways marked dark purple have difficulty (see Legend).
>>
>> Move the view to Weinbiet 
>> <http://mtbmap.cz/#zoom=16=49.37476=8.1255> to test if your 
>> settings on the phone work. And you can check how old the information in 
>> the data is and how old your map data on Android are - it might be missing 
>> just in your data.
>>
>> Majka
>>
>

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Re: How to get the MTB single trail difficulty scale in Osmand?

[Majka]

On Tuesday, 9 April 2019 21:50:28 UTC+2, Max Schädel wrote:
>
> Can someone find the problem?
>

Just for you: You are looking for information missing in the map. Most of 
the tracks are not marked with mtb:scale but as route:mtb. This is however 
not the difficulty, this just says there is a route marked for mountain 
bikes.

See mtbmap.cz <http://mtbmap.cz/#zoom=14=49.41714=7.96714> , only 
the ways marked dark purple have difficulty (see Legend).

Move the view to Weinbiet 
<http://mtbmap.cz/#zoom=16=49.37476=8.1255> to test if your 
settings on the phone work. And you can check how old the information in 
the data is and how old your map data on Android are - it might be missing 
just in your data.

Majka

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Re: How to get the MTB single trail difficulty scale in Osmand?

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On Saturday, 6 April 2019 10:13:04 UTC+2, Max Schädel wrote:
>
> Good morning Majka,
>
> thanks for you quick response. I think I already also tryed what you mean. 
>
> Is it the following setting you mean: Configure Map -> Routes -> "Show MTB 
> routes" ond/or "Show cycle routes".
>
> Cheers, Max
>
It is "Show MTB routes" - this one shows the difficulty (mtb:scale). The 
"Show cycle routes" will display the relations (marked cycle routes), it 
does say nothing about the route difficulty. A good addition is to display 
the surface and quality for the roads.

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Re: How to get the MTB single trail difficulty scale in Osmand?

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On Saturday, 6 April 2019 02:02:24 UTC+2, Max Schädel wrote:
>
> Hello, 
>
> can somebody tell me, how I can set Osmand up to see the MTB single trail 
> difficulty scale? 
>
> I already tryed all the diffrent Maps and overlay but ist doesn't work...
>
> Since they are registered in OSM it should be possible... Atleast i hope 
> so!
>
> Best regards,
>
> Max
>

You are probably looking at the wrong place - the MTB single trail 
difficulty is visible (as well) in the standard map > routes > MTB routes 
(or "mountain bike trails" as I can see it in Czech language. 
It works very well on my phone. It is an overlay within the routes, it 
doesn't depend on map renderer.

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Re: showing routes driven on a several day trip

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On Tuesday, 2 April 2019 17:45:44 UTC+2, ra wrote:
>
> urgent ask for help: I will be on an island trip by car and would like 
> osmand to make a trace of every street I took during several weeks. is that 
> possible, how?
>
> ideal would be if every road taken would remain visible tracked (wit a red 
> line or so) as long as I want (not a daily track but a continuous one). if 
> you have an idea how to accomplish that please let me know very soon! thank 
> you!
>

There is a module "route recording" just for your use ;) Look the correct 
name in English, I have at the moment OsmAnd in my local language.

But I wouldn't do it the way you want. You COULD do it in theory, but it 
isn't a good idea. You would probably need to keep OsmAnd running in the 
background permanently (can be set in the module settings), the file would 
be huge and probably slow down OsmAnd. And, the main reason against - if 
something goes wrong, you could loose the complete recording of the route, 
not just one day of it. 

Record every day (or every trip) separately (split the files), and at the 
end, simply join the individual gpx files together. The module can do it 
for you - it can split the recording at every pause longer than 2 hours and 
after a pause on the next day. If you can, backup the gpx files in the 
meantime - not sure if you will have the possibility to do so. The module 
offers live tracking as well. Even so, I would every week or so copy the 
recording at least at a SDcard, just to have some backup. 

Majka

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Re: gpx recording stops when screen switched off in new versions

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On Monday, 1 April 2019 20:43:52 UTC+2, Harry van der Wolf wrote:
>
>
> I created a new issue: https://github.com/osmandapp/Osmand/issues/6766
> Anyone else experiencing the same?
>
> Text from the issue:
> ===
>
> Motorola G5-plus, Android 8.1.0 OsmAnd 3.3.x
>
> Since the option to make OsmAnd a "device admin app" has been removed, the 
> gpx tracking stops when I switch off the screen.
> When hiking I want to record my track, but I do not need to see my screen 
> so I switch it off.
> Then the tracking stops until I switch on the screen again.
> This is really an annoying bug.
> In the mean time I tried other tracking apps and they simply continue 
> tracking with the screen off, and they are not device admin app either.
> I did check whether the app is in battery optimize mode, but it is 
> definitely not.
>
> Please repair this bug.
>
> =
>
>
> It makes OsmAnd unusable for me.
>
>
> Harry
>

Some devices need more - battery saving for an app needs to be switched off 
and the app has to be locked in the memory. Most devices work with just 
disabling the battery saving and Osmand fine. Some needs additionaly to 
lock the app in the memory (MIUI, for example). If your system has 
something similar, you have to do it as well. Check the permissions as well 
- how these work is not that straightforward. The permissions are grouped 
such a way that you sometimes need to give permission which by the name 
seems to be quite a different from the reason why you need it.

I don't have this problem with latest OsmAnd (nightly), it seems to be 
specific to your system. Just to be clear, I am not saying it is not a true 
problem for you.

Majka

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Re: Elevation Data Issues.

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On Friday, 22 March 2019 18:20:10 UTC+1, Gavin Meredith wrote:
>
> I have Osmand set with bicycle as the default profile, avoiding unpaved 
> roads and “driving style” as balanced. Elevation fluctuation is set as 
> hilly  in navigation settings.
>
> With elevation data turned off a calculated route is as expected. It 
> makes sense.
>
> With the same route selected and elevation data now turned on, Osmand 
> recalculates the route. This time it includes footpaths. In the UK this a 
> no no.
>
> Is there any way of preventing this error.
>
> GavinM.
>

Can you give an example of the footpath where it happens? 
There might be several reasons for this: 
- it is not tagged as a footpath, but as a path (highway=path), where OSM 
expects bicycle access (might be a wrong tagging)
- it might be a footpath with bicycle=yes (wrong tagging)
- it might be a footpath, but OsmAnd calculates a "cost" of the route and 
decides, that PUSHING a bike is better than taking an alternative route

Without seeing what is happening, it is difficult to give you any advice.

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Re: two feature suggestions/things that bug me

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Just be careful, with the latest Play Store version the screen on/off 
feature seems to be missing. We can thank Google again 
- https://github.com/osmandapp/Osmand/issues/6675

For the mount: I am using cheap mount with clamp, where the additional 
silicon holder is finn-like, works perfect and holds the phone without 
complicating the manipulation with the phone. I have no problem with it, 
even on trails, for a road bike, I could use just the clamp. Not even our 
potholed roads make a problem. Using poly-bag (or for more "weight" clear 
freezer bag which can be reused more easily) when it is raining works fine 
as well.

On Wednesday, 20 March 2019 00:28:09 UTC+1, P Wat wrote:
>
> Hello Gildo Schuster.
> Re 1:- "smartphone mounts ".
> Have you tried these? > https://getfinn.com/en/   from 
> https://www.bikecitizens.net/ . Very stretchy.  Great in dry weather, or 
> if your phone is rain-proof.  If not, tuck a polythene bag over the front & 
> top. I had tried some cheap alternatives but they all fell apart.  I bought 
> two "Finns" (in case one failed), and I'm still using the first!  It can be 
> positioned to leave the screen un-obstructed.  
> There is another solution I like for wet weather is "Topeak Smartphone 
> Drybag".  It is a combined handlebar mount and drybag.  Available in a 
> range of sizes  Waterproof?  Yes! - Submersible (I've tested it underwater 
> for several hours).
> https://www.topeak.com/global/en/search-results/SMARTPHONE%20DRYBAG I 
> even trust it when sailing.
>
> Re,  2, 3, 4, 5.  
> To keep my phone running OsmAnd all day (eg 8 hours full-on navigation) I 
> use a combination of methods.
> a) Always use Voice Navigation.
> b) Always turn screen off, but first set it to come on automatically for 
> 10 seconds at each voice announcement - That is plenty to see the nuances 
> of tricky junctions.
> c) If bright sunshine requires the use of full screen brightness; (i) 
> you've got the voice announcements doing their thing; (ii) attach a solar 
> charger/battery - One about the same size as the phone itself makes for 
> easy packing, and will have enough area for charging.  Its internal battery 
> will tide you over any dull periods.  You won't need a waterproof one 
> because when the sky is cloudy you can turn down the screen brightness!  
> ie. When you can't get enough sunshine for the solar charger, you don't 
> need the brightness full up.
> QED?
>
> Good luck
> Paul W
>
> On Saturday, February 23, 2019 at 7:31:20 PM UTC, Gildo Schuster wrote:
>>
>> Hi!
>>
>> I use osmand mostly when I'm riding my racing bike. I'd appreciate these 
>> options: 
>>
>> 1) ability to arrange buttons/indicators
>> 2) voice announcements for/instead of indicators
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Rationale:
>>
>> 1) Some smartphone mounts attach the phone with rubber strings that have 
>> to be pulled over the phone or with a case that have protuberances (?) over 
>> the phone. This often hides the indicators (distance to finish, arrival 
>> time etc.) in the top right corner and the buttons in the bottom left and 
>> right corners (which unwillingly sets off the zoom). One has to stop the 
>> bike and fiddle with the mount which Is really annoying. 
>>
>> Having the option to move the indicators/buttons to the center of the 
>> sides would help.
>>
>> 2) One big problem with navigation apps for (long distance) cycling is 
>> the huge screens that todays smartphones come with. They consume so much 
>> energy, that one has to reduce the brightness. This however comes at the 
>> expense of the visibility of smaller objects, such as the indicators 
>> (making them larger would perhaps make the map appear crowded).
>>
>> 3) Another problem is the brightness of the sun when it shines onto the 
>> display, especially in summer. Small items are poorly visible.
>>
>> 4) Sometimes, traffic situations become hectic and one cannot watch onto 
>> the screen.
>>
>> 5) Generally speaking, I prefer voice announcements over indicators.
>>
>>
>> Hence the need for having the option for voice announcements for the 
>> indicators and the abilty to move the indicators/buttons mentioned above.
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
>>
>> cheers
>>
>>
>> Ps.: I know that this is a lot to ask for.
>>
>>
>>

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Re: Store a route - how to?

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On Wednesday, 20 March 2019 13:02:15 UTC+1, Helmut Jarausch wrote:
>
> I have generated a route with several intermediate points which I have 
> selected on the map.
> I'd like to save this route which I only need in a few days. 
> Is this possible?


Let it calculate the navigation. Let it show you details and you can then 
save the route as gpx. 

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Re: Hardware needs for OsmAnd? (RAM, Storage, Cores, Frequency)

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On Tuesday, 19 March 2019 12:06:30 UTC+1, pap...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> OsmAnd runs very slow at my old jelly beans phone. I will buy a new one. 
> How much RAM and storage and how many cores with which frequency is needed 
> to achieve a good performance for OsmAnd?
>
> Best regards,
>
> Klaus
>

It is difficult to say without describing your exact use. Using roads only 
maps? Using detailed maps? Using both (not recommended)? Using several 
regions or one only? Navigating by car long routes, navigating by bike or 
pedestrian routes more or less locally?

If you have to prioritise, go for more RAM. I have Redmi Note 4X with 4 GB 
RAM and OsmAnd is working fine for me, my father has Redmi 4x with 3 GB RAM 
and is using OsmAnd without problems as well. He might not have as much 
future-proofing built in, but I suspect the phone will give up sooner than 
OsmAnd will outgrow it for his usage.

The big step up for me was going from 500 MB RAM up - this became 
unmaintainable even with all the workarounds I have employed to keep it 
going. But I did keep OsmAnd alive longer on this then was reasonable for 
at least a year, maybe longer :) 
And don't forget to think about space for the maps - they are growing in 
size constantly, if you cannot/will not use SD card, it can easily be the 
limiting factor as well (dual SIM phones sometimes use either second SIM or 
SD card, not both at the same time). Look for the size of the region you 
want to keep on you at all times, multiply by 2 or 3 to have reasonable 
reserve. Just saying when I hear you were using jelly beans phone and I 
suspect you will probably want to keep the new phone again for a long time.

Majka

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Re: Osmand useless for GPX navigation? want return to missed waypoints

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On Thursday, 14 March 2019 11:27:39 UTC+1, limom...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> I open the OSMAND+ app and start navigation with my GPS track. I have 1 
> point about every 10 km to force the desired route. Osmand snaps the 
> navigation on the road automaticly and the navigations works perfect.
> Maybe I should create the route with more points? Will it ignore the 
> missed point as soon it arrives at the next point? BTW, I create tracks 
> with ITN converter.
>

I repeat: you don't have to turn around and go back. Simply drive on the 
route you are currently, even if it is wrong. OsmAnd will recalculate the 
route. Putting more points is counterproductive if you want to ignore them. 
Or did I understand your problem completely wrong?

With more points, you are doing just the opposite - when you put point into 
your route, you are saying you want to get to this point, then to the end 
of the route. With more points, you are stacking the navigation: A > B 
(have to get there) > C (again, need to pass it) >  > Finish.  Decide 
if it is necessary to pass the point (even if you miss it near it, and have 
to reroute). 

BTW, on the bike and if you have planned stops, it is easier to let OsmAnd 
navigate from point to point (start -> first stop; then first stop > next 
stop; next stop > finish). Or, when planning the route, put ONLY the points 
you want to drive by (no avoiding, if missed a turn, reroute there), 
meaning as FEW as you can. See here 

 
for an example (BRouter web). I set just the point I want to have in the 
route at all cost (have to pass, no avoiding it) and let the navigation 
decide the route there. If I miss a turn, OsmAnd would recalculate and 
navigate me to the next point on this route as fast as it can, and from 
there take the rest of the route again as planned.

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Re: Disable/enable Arrow

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Navigation > settings > display warnings > lanes. You have to look for the 
correct settings, I don't have the app in English.

On Tuesday, 12 March 2019 13:55:57 UTC+1, HH P wrote:
>
> Thanks for the answer.
> However, I do not use OSMAND for driving.
> I use it exclusively for cycling.
> Maybe someone could tell me where I can disable it.
>
>
>
> Am Montag, 11. März 2019 11:40:08 UTC+1 schrieb HH P:
>>
>> This arrow will be displayed on my screen.
>>  What is the meaning and where can I disable it.
>>
>>

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Re: Osmand useless for GPX navigation? want return to missed waypoints

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On Monday, 11 March 2019 19:03:50 UTC+1, limom...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> I was happy to find Osmand as a great navigation software. Worked well for 
> hiking with gpx tracks. 
> But using tracks for the motorbike is a hassle. If I miss for several 
> reasons a waypoint, it wants me allways to make a U-turn.
> Is there any solution that a waypoint can be ignored?
> Or maybe making the waypoint larger so it can´t get missed?
> I use open street maps. Maybe it helps to use another map?
> Would it help to have more waypoints in the track?
>
Even when navigating along the gpx, you can simply ignore the instructions 
and the navigation will sooner or later recalculate the remaining part of 
the route. Did you set OsmAnd as navigation software (in the navigation 
settings)? Even if you want to use predefined gpx routes only, set it up to 
allow for re-calculating.

What version of OsmAnd are you using? I did use the navigation along the 
gpx route in the past, but it is much easier and simpler to use the gpx 
just for setting the waypoints and leave the app do the navigating. With 
few exceptions (closed roads with conditional access), there isn't much 
reason for me to "force" an exact route. With the correct settings, I get 
almost always exactly the route I would choose for myself.

For me, the way to go would be less waypoints, not more, and leaving the 
app to navigate from waypoint to waypoint for the remaining ones. If you 
can ignore a waypoint when you missed it, it can be almost always left out 
from the route completely (leaving it to the navigation, if you go through 
or not).
Just as a note - I stopped using gpx route for navigation for hiking, 
bicycle and for car. With correct settings for each navigation mode, it was 
simply not necessary.

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Re: OSMAnd crashes immediately

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On Monday, 11 March 2019 13:08:50 UTC+1, Harry van der Wolf wrote:
>
> Fdroid always compile their own versions and often run 2-3 subversions 
> behind. Yalp downloads "somehow" from the Play Store without using the 
> Google framework. I have no idea how that works and if the beta channel is 
> fully supported.
> There are more third party options that simply sideload apks from the Play 
> store to their own servers and then distribute it again via their own 
> apps/websites. I suppose they are always running behind when compared with 
> the "real" Play Store.
>
> Harry
>
 Yalp (especially with its own login) won't download beta version. It 
simply scrapes the webpage and downloads the apk from there. The beta 
channel has to be connected through the Play store with your own login, you 
cannot do it from Yalp or similar apps... 
The one big reason why I am using Yalp store is that you can filter out 
apps with no adds or no dependencies on Google framework. I am using it, 
but mostly just for searching/filtering.

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Re: Redesigned directions menu when analyzing a route

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>
> On Sunday, March 3, 2019 at 6:58:43 AM UTC-8, Bart Eisenberg wrote:
>>>
>>> On the 3.3.2 directions menu, I'm not seeing the useful "Analyze on map" 
>>> function that correlates the elevation profile with the route on the map.  
>>> Allowing, for example, you to see with a swipe the location of the highest 
>>> point on the route. 
>>>
>>> And I don't understand the purpose of the detailed analysis of Road 
>>> types, Surface, Steepness, and Smoothness--with Step-by-step directions, 
>>> presumably the most useful for navigation, relegated to the bottom.   
>>>
>>
It depends on your use case - for bike navigation, surface, steepness and 
smoothness are sometimes much more important then the total route length. 
This is something I want to see when I analyse the route, not the 
step-by-step directions. I want to see how "cyclable" the suggested / 
planned route is more than how long. It goes in both directions - somebody 
can be looking for the "trail" experience, somebody else for more or less 
smooth ride.

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Re: Rendering Based on Highway Designation

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On Thursday, 28 February 2019 23:55:42 UTC+1, Jonathan Stuart wrote:
>
> Thank you, that does sound like a likely explanation. I assumed that all 
> tags & values in OpenStreetMap would also be available in OSMAnd. Is that 
> not the case? Also, is there a way to find out if a value exists in OSMAnd?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jonathan
>
According to this page 
, the included 
tags are defined here 
.
 
It seems that the designation is missing in the file.

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Re: Rendering Based on Highway Designation

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On Thursday, 28 February 2019 17:04:20 UTC+1, Jonathan Stuart wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I've created a custom XML rendering file to change the rendering of 
> highways based on their access rights. This is generally working but I 
> can't get OSMAnd to format the highway when access is set to "designated" 
> or  by checking the value of "designation". For example, this works:
>
> 
> 
>
> But this doesn't work:
>
> 
> 
>
> Is it possible to do what I want and if so what am I doing wrong?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jonathan
>

Are you sure that OsmAnd has the "designation" tag included? Because this 
seems to be tagging almost exclusively in UK. It might be that you are 
looking for a non-existent value (in OsmAnd data).

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Re: Simulate route: how to calculate

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On Friday, 22 February 2019 23:40:35 UTC+1, Dick van Nierop wrote:
>
> Thanks, Bart. I understand how to set the start and end points, and 
> additional points in between. The question is how can I get Osmand to 
> calculate a route? It doesn't do that by itself, does it? 
>
> As far as I remember, just start the navigation. The simulation is simply 
taking you through the calculated route as if you were driving... 

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Re: Can Osmand totally replace a Garmin in a car?

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It depends on where you are and how active the local community is. Locally, 
you can usually find new streets and addresses in OSM (and in OsmAnd) first.

On Saturday, 26 January 2019 15:00:20 UTC+1, Tom Norton wrote:
>
> OP here. Yep I have to agree about addresses. It seems like we can only 
> get close at times.

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Re: GPX-Aufzeichnung startet nicht

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On Monday, 10 December 2018 16:53:38 UTC+1, Paul47 wrote:
>
>
> Hallo zusammen,
>
> die Aufzeichnung startet nicht ( bleibt alles auf 00:00:00) Schaltfläche 
> aktiviert und GPS-Empfang vorhanden.
>
> Paul47
>
>
> Bitte überprüfen, ob OsmAnd Schreibberechtigungen hat (insbesondere MIUI 
verbietet gerne Schreiben auch für Zugriff auf internen Speicher). Wurde 
schon mehrmals gesehen...

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Re: POI & Adressenweitergabe

[Majka]

On Saturday, 8 December 2018 15:40:19 UTC+1, Peter Jungkunz wrote:
>
> Hallo Zusammen,
>
> ich benötige Hilfe in zwei Themenbereiche.
> Wir nutzen für die Feuerwehr OsmAnd zur Navigation zum Einsatzort.
>
> Wir bekommen von unserem Server einen Link (google-Maps Link) bereit 
> gestellt den wir dann in OsmAnd nutzen.
> Leider haben wir nun das Problem, das z.B. Straße im Link mit doppelt ss 
> geschrieben wird.
>
>
> Ich habe aus Datenschutzgründen die Hausnummer überall raus gelöscht. Aber 
> wie gesagt, OsmAnd findet mit dem ß die Adresse.
> Weiß jemand was ich hier machen könnte damit OsmAnd damit zurecht kommt?
> Den Link können wir leider nicht ändern.
>
 
Ist es wirklich so ein problem den Link zu ändern? Weil es wirklich trivial 
ist, den ausgehenden Link zu ändern (einfaches replace ss > ß).

Alternativen:  

Issue on OsmAnd zu machen, damit beide Varianten als gleichwertig 
betrachtet sind. Nominatim hat diese fähigkeit, OsmAnd anscheinend nicht 
oder nicht einwandfrei. - Wird wahrscheinlich länger dauern, bis 
ausgebessert wird.

Alle Straßen im Umkreis, wo es notwendig ist, mit alt_name zu versehen. 
OsmAnd sucht auch alt_name. Ich bin nicht sicher, ob dies von der lokalen 
Mappern als "zu viel des Gutes" eingesehen wird. 
Idealerweise aber kann man eigene Karten verwenden - d. h. die gewünschte 
Region downloaden, lokal massenedit durchzuführen "ß > ss" , zusätzlich nur 
die Gewünschte POIs und andere Details zu belassen und Karten für den 
eigenen Gebrauch zu generieren. Das Auslassen vom unnötigen Balast würde 
auch schnellere Arbeit von OsmAnd bedeuten.

 

> zweites Problem:
>
> Wir lassen per POI Overlay die Feuerwehr Hydranten anzeigen.
> Leider funktioniert das nur sporatisch d.h. wenn ich die App "neu starte", 
> zeigt es die Hydranten sauber an, suche ich dann z.B. eine Adresse, 
> verschwindet das Overlay wieder und ich sehe keine Hydranten mehr.
> Ab und zu funktioniert es obwohl ich nichts an den Einstellungen ändere.
> Ich nutze ein CAT S60 Handy mit Android.
>
> Hat da jemand Erfahrung damit?
> Kann ich evtl. die Hydranten POI "offline" runter laden damit es sicherer 
> Funktioniert?
>

Der einfachste Weg die Hydrante darzustellen ist diese 
 als gpx zu exportieren, und die gpx dann 
zu nutzen. Vorsicht, OsmAnd zeigt nur einige zusätzliche tags bei gpx 
(Name), aber bei Hydranten ist es meiner Meinung nach ausreichend.

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Re: Altitude value of the point in context menu

[Majka]

On Wednesday, 5 December 2018 23:41:31 UTC+1, Gavinx wrote:
>
> There is an altitude widget you can configure from the Configure Screen 
> menu.
>
> there are also contour maps that provide this information.
>
>
> If you are talking about selecting a specific point to get what is 
> considered "extended information" you have the wrong program.
> There are many advantages of being able to select a point to get extended 
> information but it is a question of how big the files would become - 
> presumerably. 
>
> On Friday, 2 February 2018 22:34:59 UTC+11, Marek Zaridian wrote:
>>
>> I have seen this feature in Locus. I think that altitude value visible in 
>> context menu would be very useful and also "not-so-difficult" to implement. 
>> OsmAnd gives precise informations about altitude, ascent, descent under 
>> route/navigation panel, so why not placing alti value in the context menu? 
>> As an user of multisport tracker with barometric altimeter I see this 
>> feature very helpful in calibrating altitude before and during activities.
>>
>
Locus is "grabbing" the altitude from separately downloaded height data. I 
can imagine OsmAnd could do the same - meaning it would work only if you 
download the height data. If the contour plugin works, it means the data 
are available.

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Re: No Voice navigation

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On Friday, 23 November 2018 12:08:13 UTC+1, An Van Laer wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> Yesterday i went for a walk with a group of persons.  Of the 8 persons 
> which were using the OsmAnd app, we had 3 phones with problems with the 
> voice navigation. 
>
> Two of them had no voice navigation, although we dubbelchecked if Dutch 
> was set (and the phone wasn't muted).  One of them had a English voice.  
> Here also Dutch was set.  
>
> How can we make sure that the app speaks Dutch?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>


There are two distinct modes of voice navigation - one using text-to-speech 
and one using prepared voice hints. The first one depends not only on 
downloaded the voice data (hint: check that these are downloaded, you can 
find it in downloads, literally under the map data) but on the phone 
text-to-speech. Meaning: if you set OsmAnd to use tts data, and the phone's 
text-to-speech is missing the language, nothing comes out on the phone end. 
In such case, use the prepared voice hints (sound files). You can download 
this as well - again, check that you have all the files needed.
Additionally, you have to set the correct voice data in the "navigation 
settings". But this is just the last step, not the only one.

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Re: All settings lost, again

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On Saturday, 17 November 2018 21:39:13 UTC+1, Frapta wrote:
>
> I'm using Osmand+ 3.2.6 on my Android 4.4.2 tablet and quite often all 
> setting is getting lost. When it happens the app behaves like started for 
> the first time ever. All my files including maps, tracks, rendering styles 
> ... all is still visible on sd card, only Osmand does not see it, although 
> surprisingly the path to this data is still set in Osmand correctly (Osmand 
> claims that the folder is read only now). Same issue was experienced on few 
> previous builds as well.
> I always end up with deleting all the files and folders via PC and then 
> re-installing the app with re-setting and re-downloading of the maps, which 
> is more than annoying. I have not figured yet how to replicate this 
> behavior, it happened even after normal app shutdown.
>
> Not being an expert, but I would hope there must be a way to tell Osmand: 
> just use all the files in such and such location without re-install. Anyone 
> can advise, please?
>
> Thanks.
>

I suspect you have the data installed on SD Card? I did experience the same 
and the reason was that the SD card (or the connections) were buggy - the 
SD card was sometimes disappearing and reappering in system. You wouldn't 
even notice this, just the message telling you to "disconnect" sdcard 
before ejecting it would come up. 
Another reason was when I was using "non standard" way to move the folder - 
using init script (move to sdcard and similar) to access the card. You have 
to wait for the boot to finish if this is the case, and it takes 
surprisingly long time - sometimes minutes.

Do not delete the files - simply rename the folder, let it recreate, and 
manually move the files back. But unless you get to the root of the 
problem, it will come back again and again.

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Re: How to recover map markers?

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On Monday, 12 November 2018 15:29:56 UTC+1, Werner Weichert wrote:
>
> To try to get OsmAnd Plus back into operation as quickly as possible, I 
> uninstalled OsmAnd Plus and reinstalled it. And yes, it worked fine again.
>
> However I had lost my favourites and my map markers!
>

I'm afraid the map markers are gone. These are in the hidden (for user not 
accessible) /data/data directory in a database. Unless you export these 
(see next), this will be deleted on app uninstall, and on new install, a 
new (empty) direcory will be created.

For the future:
You can save the map markers as gpx file. The suggested name is 
Markers__MM_DD in the Osmand/tracks/map markers subdirectory.

If you have lot of map markers, OsmAnd will get slower. It is best to save 
these as gpx file, and open it as needed. The gpx file works better than 
the map markers.

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Re: Backup osmand settings

[Majka]

On unrooted phone, the Helium backup and restore app from Play store is 
(was) working. I didn't test it recently but on my old phone with Android 7 
it did work just fine, all the settings were backed up.

All the apps are using the adb backup, but you cannot use it on unrooted 
phone without the need to to connect phone to the computer, even if the 
backup is done to the phone itself or to the SD card. 
You need to connect to a computer once and allow the adb backup. After 
this, you could backup the Osmand app on unrooted phone as well and didn't 
need to connect to the computer any more. The Helium app does guide you how 
to do it - no idea what the difference is, simple adb backup didn't work 
for me either when I had tried it. 

Alternatively, can you live without the app settings? Everything else can 
be backed up, just the settings, favourites and filters are in the 
data/data folder. The favourites are in the favourites.gpx as well, in the 
normal data folder you can access, or you can make a manuall backup prior 
the move. 
If you install Osmand on the new phone, let it create the file structure 
and grab the data folder (shown in menus) and copy it into the newly 
created folder - everything except the settings and favourites should be 
there. The favourites.gpx in the top level of this folder needs to be 
opened and imported into Osmand from filesystem, in the last Osmand version 
it doesn't automatically get imported. You can even avoid the use of 
favourites and simply copy the file into the track folder and open it as 
needed.

Majka 

On Tuesday, 6 November 2018 23:09:00 UTC+1, xav...@dp100.com wrote:
>
> On Tue, Nov 06, 2018 at 01:01:49PM -0800, Majka wrote: 
> >On Monday, 5 November 2018 13:44:28 UTC+1, Yves Klein wrote: 
> >> 
> >> I want to transfer my Osmand settings to other android devices.   
> >> Since my phone has no root access, I cannot make a copy of 
> >> /data/data/ net.osmand.net/shared_prefs/net.osmand.settings.xml 
> >> 
> >> Is there an alternative way to backup osmand settings? 
> >> 
> >> Many thanks for hints and explanations. 
> >> Yves 
>
> >Do you think you can manage few adb commands?  There is a way in 
> >Android but you need to use adb to allow adb backup.  How to do it is 
> >already described here somewhere, but let me know if you want to try 
> >this way and need a description. 
>
> If you mean "adb backup", when I tried that once it appeared that 
> Osmand had marked itself as "do not backup" because I didn't see 
> anything for Osmand when I decrypted the resulting backup file.  My 
> Osmand is installed from F-Droid (so it is the version that F-Droid 
> builds) so maybe that makes a difference. 
>
> Otherwise, if there is something different about 'how' to run the adb 
> backup, I'd be interested in knowing the steps you propose. 
>
> >Alternatively, you could try oandbackup app on fdroid, if it would 
> >work without any other modifications. 
> > 
> >This uses the system's backup and restore. 
>
> The page for oandbackup says it needs root access on the phone.  Note 
> I've not tested it yet to see if that assertion on the f-droid page is 
> accurate. 
>
>

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Re: Backup osmand settings

[Majka]

Do you think you can manage few adb commands? There is a way in Android but 
you need to use adb to allow adb backup. How to do it is already described 
here somewhere, but let me know if you want to try this way and need a 
description.
Alternatively, you could try oandbackup app on fdroid, if it would work 
without any other modifications.

This uses the system's backup and restore.

On Monday, 5 November 2018 13:44:28 UTC+1, Yves Klein wrote:
>
> I want to transfer my Osmand settings to other android devices. Since my 
> phone has no root access, I cannot make a copy of  /data/data/
> net.osmand.net/shared_prefs/net.osmand.settings.xml
>
> Is there an alternative way to backup osmand settings?
>
> Many thanks for hints and explanations.
> Yves
>

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Re: Which map for which territory?

[Majka]

On Friday, 12 October 2018 18:07:54 UTC+2, Peter B wrote:
>
> Just tap multiple times on the (-) button to come to a lower zoom level. 
> Then the maps which are installed are green.  Make a long tap on a region 
> which is not green and which you want to install.
> Peter
>
And yellow for the maps in backup. 

>
> Am Freitag, 12. Oktober 2018 17:16:09 UTC+2 schrieb Peter Kaiser:
>>
>> I see that maps for some large regions I've been downloading and using -- 
>> for instance, regions of France and Germany -- now seem to be segmented 
>> into smaller territories under new names. I'm no longer sure what I need to 
>> keep updated for the places I visit or drive through.
>>
>> Without becoming intimate with administrative details of all the places I 
>> may want to visit or pass through now and in the future, how can I tell 
>> simply what maps to download and keep current?
>>
> Not really straightforward, but possible and might be more pain than help: 
Switch the  "developer" module on. Then, in settings, the last one, 
development... > Simulate the first start of app. This will bring the 
initial screen on, where you could download the map of the current region.

Beware: If you have data in nonstandard folder, you will have to set it 
again in settings > common settings > data directory.

I did try it just now, it works and should leave all your settings intact, 
except the data directory in settings. But still, I would do it only as 
last resort. I mean "I have to download a map right now but have no other 
idea how to do it. 

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Re: light on the smartphone

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On Tuesday, 18 September 2018 10:38:36 UTC+2, jlver...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Hello …..
>
> However, I have a problem with the app, despite the standby display placed 
> at 30 minutes (on the smarphone) I want a screen constantly light.
> My parameters in osmand are:
> voice activated
> voice guidance-> voice synthesis French
>
> it lights up only when there is a fork
>
> (I have an extra battery )
> And I do not wish it to go out ..
> thanks for the info
>

Not sure you can override the phone settings.

I have a solution for you to try in navigation mode:
Set Menu > Settings > Navigation settings > Turn screen on  when 
approaching a turn to any time other then "Never"
This setting should "wake" your phone at every turn, and you should get 
another 30 minutes on the screen time off from this moment. It might be 
enough for you.

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Re: map style as in OpenAndroMaps (elevate)

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The legend is there - in the mobile app as well as at the website 
<https://osmand.net/help-online/map-legend> 

On Friday, 14 September 2018 15:25:49 UTC+2, star bright wrote:
>
>
>
> Am Mittwoch, 12. September 2018 08:09:41 UTC+2 schrieb Majka:
>>
>> The map styles are not compatible. You cannot get it to work unless 
>> somebody manages to duplicate it for Osmand. 
>>
>> You can get the same or more information with the default osmand style. 
>> Switch in the map settings in Details to "display surface" and "display 
>> quality".
>> Switch in "routes" MTB routes on, this brings the difficulties.
>> You have to look for the right settings, my language is not set in 
>> English. 
>>
>
> I understand. But despite whatever setting I chose, in Openandromaps I can 
> distinguish ways much better. And there is no Legende to see what certain 
> signs mean.
> Guess I have to post screenshots. ...
>

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Re: routing on paths for bikes

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On Thursday, 13 September 2018 23:15:09 UTC+2, john whelan wrote:
>
>
> There is another path locally more suited to mountain goats than bikes so 
> again suggestions on tagging.
>

As for tagging:
Best you can do is to tag surface material and quality, and tracktype for 
tracks. Additionally, you could tag mtb:scale as well, but I don't think 
many routers will use or even "see" it. -> This goes back to the 
recommendation to use BRouter. 

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Re: Custom rendering in 3.1

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On Thursday, 13 September 2018 21:54:10 UTC+2, OA wrote:
>
> Thank you, Majka.
>
> I have OsmAnd 3.1.5, released 2018-08-10 on my phone and there is no 
> TryFirst item between Touring view and UniRS. Should I try something else 
> instead?
>
>
I do sincerely hope you are just kidding.

Read this <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/osmand/Dd2fz3Edpqg/Asq57xI2CAAJ> 
message again. Read it aloud and repeat it as many times as you need to 
understand what you should be doing. If this doesn't help, read several 
times the last sentence from here 
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/osmand/Dd2fz3Edpqg/2-_Ii2AKCAAJ>. 

You can grab the missing file here 
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/osmand/Dd2fz3Edpqg/Md5Pc3iXBQAJ>.

Do not come back until you can show me a screenshot of the mentioned 
folder, where you have both the default.render.xml and TryFirst.render.xml 
files inside. 


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Re: routing on paths for bikes

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On Thursday, 13 September 2018 23:15:09 UTC+2, john whelan wrote:
>
> I ride a recumbent trike so width can be an issue and so can ground 
> clearance.
>
> However I recently plotted a route and the path it selected involved a 
> path through a park that went down a gulley, so very steep up and down 
> portions, and additionally it was earth so after some recent rainfall the 
> back wheel just spun.
>
> I'd like to tag the path so that cycle routing will avoid it unless you 
> are riding a mountain bike.
>
> Suggestions other than buy a mountain bike please.
>
> There is another path locally more suited to mountain goats than bikes so 
> again suggestions on tagging.
>
> Are there any settings I can use on OSMand to say keep me on gentle paths 
> and roads?
>
> Thanks John
>

Do not use Osmand bike routing but the BRouter one. Osmand routing can 
avoid unpaved roads but it won't take route profile (up and downs) in the 
calculation.
You can set up Osmand so that it will use the BRouter just like the 
internal routing, but the profiles are better set up for bike. There are 
several proifles you can choose from. There is special profile for recumbent 
trike.

You'll need download BRouter and download additonal data, but after set up, 
everything will work just like it does now. Only the routing for bicycle 
will be much better.

You can try if the routing would be what you want here 
.
 
Try first the profile I have preselected for you, it should be nearest to 
what you want. Try the route you had problems with to see, if this improves 
the routing. 

Come back if this would be something you want to use and you need help with 
the setup.

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Re: Custom rendering in 3.1

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Then recreate the file! You need both, the original one and either of those 
provided here as attachment. You need both in the correct folder. 
Do not touch anything else, do not change a bit, no editing, no renaming. 
Simply recreate the file from the app and put the new there as well. 
Restart Osmand, select the additional renderer, done. 

It should work, there is nothing else to do. 

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Re: Custom rendering in 3.1

[Majka]

No wrong again, you have just overwritten the correct installation with your 
BAD non working settings back - you have nullified the whole reason for 
reinstall by this.
You have to keep the rendering folder as installed. Do it again, but before 
restoring your settings copy the folder AS INSTALLED somewhere else. Restore 
your settings, copy the content of the folder AS INSTALLED back . Put one of 
the provided files into the same folder without changing anything . Done. 

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Re: Tracking does not work

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I am not going to bring good news for you. 

As far as I know, this is a problem of Android 8 on Huawei. The developers 
of Osmand are working on it (some apps seem to be excluded from the 
aggressive closing of apps in background) but at the moment it is not 
working. The problem is not with Osmand, the problem is with Huawei. The 
methods used for keeping apps alive used in the past are not working at the 
moment. 

On Monday, 10 September 2018 08:18:48 UTC+2, Mirko Zveplan wrote:
>
>
>> Since the update on Android 8.0, I have trouble in recording tracks, 
> after a certain time (about 5 minutes), the recording stops. In the 
> settings, I have a correctly set up automatic power saving management for 
> OsmAnd+. The recording has become useless, what should I do? 
>

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Re: Maybe it's me but....

[Majka]

It is not only you, the search does it often, mixing every possible 
combination of search. 

Change the way you are searching, do not type it in, use: 

Search > Categories > Custom search (at the bottom) > Tourism
Do not switch it all on, use the "..." button. Again, do not use the 
switch, select "Camp site" and eventually "Caravan site" as well, if you 
want.
> Apply > Show

Bottom down button - you can name and save this search. 
After this, your custom search will come up in the categories and it will 
everytime start from your location at the time.
The search is first looking in radius to 10 km, and then you can increase 
the radius.



On Saturday, 8 September 2018 20:57:59 UTC+2, Tom Norton wrote:
>
> Currently cycling across Europe and I cannot seem to make the POI's work 
> for me when I want find say campgrounds or bike shops. I will enter 
> campground in the search but it will show campgrounds miles/kilometeres 
> away when I am right next to one!
> What am I doing wrong?
> Any help would be greatly appreciated!!!
> Thanks!

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Re: Custom rendering in 3.1

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You shouldn't touch anything else than YOUR custom file. There needs to be 
default.render.xml - this is the main file used for rendering - do not 
touch it at all, nor any other file created by installation. Your 
ADDITIONAL file simply overwrites part of it. This is the only way it can 
work for you. Let the editing of the installed files to people who know 
what they are doing. 

Can you switch rendering style inside OsmAnd now at all? I would reinstall 
OsmAnd, grab one of the two files, copy it and forget the rest. 

For the future - either do not touch anything or make really, really 
sure that you understand the instructions. When not clear, please do ask. 
Your step one was a big mistake, the rest was fine but steps 4-6 shouldn't 
be necessary at all. 

On Saturday, 8 September 2018 00:15:21 UTC+2, OA wrote:
>
> First of all, thank you for trying to help!
>
> I've just tried your files:
> 1. I removed default.render.xml file and all my files from rendering 
> folder.
> 2. I put your TryFirst.render.xml file there
> 3. I started OsmAnd to see if it changed anything. It did not
> 4. I cleared cache from OsmAnd
> 5. I put your TrySecond.render.xml file into the folder
> 6. Started OsmAnd again and I don't see the change
>
> Perhaps I'm doing something wrong, but with those two files I still see 
> wider track... And even worse I don't know what to try next.
>

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Re: Custom rendering in 3.1

[Majka]

I'm sorry, but what are you doing? For sure not what I told you to do :)

The name of the file has nothing to do with anything. The change is in the 
first row inside of the file. 

^read the line above once more^

...
And just to be sure: The change is in the text inside, not in the name!!!
...

And now, for dummies edition:
There are two files attached, copy both in the correct folder. Start 
Osmand, and only one of the custom rendering files will work inside 
correctly. Keep this one, rename it however you want it. It does work in my 
installation, for me the file name "TrySecond.render.xml" works. You can 
name the file how you want.

On Friday, 7 September 2018 22:43:19 UTC+2, OA wrote:
>
> I just tried to change my AnyName.render.xml to:
>
>
>

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TryFirst.render.xml
Description: XML document


TrySecond.render.xml
Description: XML document

Re: Custom rendering in 3.1

[Majka]

On Friday, 7 September 2018 20:52:03 UTC+2, OA wrote:
>
> On Friday, September 7, 2018 at 1:13:46 AM UTC-7, Majka wrote:
>>
>>
>> Check, if you need to change depends="OsmAnd" to depends="default".
>>
>
> Thank you, @Majka for looking at the issue. Do you mean I have to edit 
> default.render.xml file? But it defeats the very elegant feature in OsmAnd 
> - ability to overwrite default rendering settings without editing its 
> default style file. You place your own file alongside and it's done. No 
> editing of default file is needed, no OsmAnd update will overwrite your 
> file... 
>

@OA:
No, just grab the code, copy it into your custom xml. In theory, just the 
one line is missing.
Start Osmand, try if it works. Should it work, you are done.

If it wont work, just change the header line in my text. The 
depends="whatever" just says what is the underlaying file. In my case, the 
Osmand says "Osmand" but the file is named "default" and the depends are 
using this. 

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Re: Custom rendering in 3.1

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On Thursday, 6 September 2018 22:55:06 UTC+2, OA wrote:
>
> I always use my own rendering, correcting width of navigation track. It's 
> too wide to my taste, the track covers the whole street and I always reduce 
> its default width so I can see it inside streets. It was done by creating 
> small file AnyName.render.xml that I put in OsmAnd folder. Content of the 
> file is very simple:
> 
>   
>  "#bfccff" strokeWidth_3="2:1">
>="#41a6d9" strokeWidth="2:2" color_0="#CCb29c2b" strokeWidth_0="2:1"/>
> 
>   
> 
>
> It worked very well until OsmAnd was updated to 3.1. Now it doesn't see my 
> file, leaving me with only option - edit default.render.xml. First of all, 
> it's inconvenient - the file is big (currently 645 KiB). And second, every 
> new update overwrites this file. So, I have to go through the hassle of 
> editing it again and again...
>

It is working, some of the built in rendering styles use the depends.

Change it like this:




 
 
 
 
 


Check, if you need to change depends="OsmAnd" to depends="default".

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Re: Add GPX Waypoint, and mobile data use (was: How to configure POI)

[Majka]

On Wednesday, 5 September 2018 18:34:59 UTC+2, kermit...@directbox.com 
wrote:
>
> Dear Majka,
>
> you understood me in the right way first. It's NOT about watching 
> guideposts on the map.
> Which version do you use? Because my one hasn't a 'quick action button'. 
> It's version 3.1.6 here.
>
> Best, Martin
>
>
The quick action button is there, just hidden. 
Go to the menu, display settings and set it on. 
Sorry, just a quick answer from my phone without setting the language to 
English and without screenshots. 

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Re: How to configure POI short list?

[Majka]

On Tuesday, 4 September 2018 14:45:18 UTC+2, kermit...@directbox.com wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> when I'm hiking I add some POIs. Benches and picnic sites are easy, I can 
> select them from the drop down menu.
> But adding guideposts are more elaborate, because there are not in the 
> short list. So I have to type a lot just for a
> simple guidepost. My question is now: 
>
> Is it possible to customize or adding something to the POI drop down menu?
>
>
> Best, Martin
>

It is possible to add "anything" using "quick action" button.

Add action > add poi  and define everything using "add tag" for the same 
quick action. 

You can define all the tags as a quasi preset and use the "Show interim 
dialog". This allows you to modify the predefined tags.
I would set:
name=xx (modify or delete)
ele=0 (modify or delete)
ref=xx (modify or delete)
tourist=information
information=guidepost
hiking=yes (delete)
bicycle=yes (delete)
horse=yes (delete)


This way, you have all the tags prepared and can modify and/or delete the 
tags for every guidepost you set in Osmand.

[image: guidepost.png] 


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Re: Filter autopistas in Mexico

[Majka]

On Monday, 20 August 2018 15:01:33 UTC+2, Porfiriy A wrote:
>
> Thanks for the info. I made exactly as you told but still does not see 
> toll roads.
>
> Am I missing some step?
>
> No you are not missing anything, the access tag (and the toll tag) will 
show at zoom 12 and bigger. It should be possible to make changes in the 
rendering to display it as solid line on top of the motorway at lower zooms 
but I have no idea how to do it myself. 

What can I offer as a solution is to double up - and go the gpx way - 
download all the toll motorways which are in the map data from overpass 
turbo  - run the query and export the 
result as gpx. Move it to the Osmand/track folder and under display this 
"track". It is not ideal, but something I can manage.

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Re: Filter autopistas in Mexico

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On Monday, 20 August 2018 10:19:59 UTC+2, Porfiriy A wrote:
>
> The result is simply to show them on map (highlight) or create map layer. 
> Is it possible?
>
>
> But toll roads are visible within the access tag, see 
>
> map legend 
> .
>  
> Real search would be easiest with overpass turbo, looking for 
> highway=motorway and toll=yes.
>
> Could you please describe what is overpass turbo, what is access tag and 
> how to use them?
>

Did you try to study the map legend? Scroll down to the part "Access" and 
look how the toll roads do look like.
For displaying it (it is not switched on by default): Map rendering > Map 
style Osmand, Details > Show access restrictions and toll.

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Re: Filter autopistas in Mexico

[Majka]

On Sunday, 19 August 2018 10:08:06 UTC+2, Porfiriy A wrote:
>
> How can I filter only toll roads (autopistas in Spanish) for Mexico?
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Mexican_autopistas
> There is  highway=motorway tag, 
> is this what 
> I need? How can I enter it directly as I see search by tags is disabled 
> ? In Categories I didn't 
> find highway anywhere.
>
> What exactly is the expected result? 
I mean: 
1. find the toll roads
2. avoid these when routing
3. use these when routing exclusively

The easiest is point 2, simply set navigation to "avoid toll roads". 

Search is IMHO not possible. But toll roads are visible within the access 
tag, see map legend . Real 
search would be easiest with overpass turbo, looking for highway=motorway 
and toll=yes.

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Re: Location of map files

[Majka]

On Friday, 17 August 2018 03:22:48 UTC+2, A Thompson wrote:
>
> Sorry if everyone knows, but OsmAnd doesn't usually read the 
> favourites.gpx file at startup - the file is more of a backup. To import 
> the file, you can click on it in a file browser and choose OsmAnd in the 
> "Open With" menu if given a choice (for me it just opens immediately).
>
> I'm sure there's a good reason for this, but it does mean you can't easily 
> sync your favourites between devices just by syncing the favourites.gpx 
> file with SyncThing. 
>

This seems to be a change. It used to work, you could have on every start 
different favourites inside of Osmand by putting the points inside. 

True to be told, I have not used this method in a long time, it is easier 
either opening gpx files for import or putting these directly in the track 
folder/subfolders and display as needed. For me, the second method (track 
folder) is even easier and more convenient, you can split the files as 
needed, no need to have one big file with everything in it.

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Re: Location of map files

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On Thursday, 16 August 2018 04:18:12 UTC+2, OA wrote:
>
> And OsmAnd found my map files (.OBF) and my tracks (.GPX). As I've 
> mentioned, all my previous attempts to point to my folder in  "*Settings 
> | Global app settings | Misc | Data storage folder*" failed... It's look 
> like the functionality has been removed from the app. :( Yet another 
> problem, that I've noticed with it is, it doesn't see my favorites, even if 
> I put MyFavs.gpx into files folder. And there is no way to import favorites 
> from local storage or SD... I guess it's jut yet another lost functionality 
> removed from OsmAnd lately. :(
>

The functionality shouldn't be removed, this is a recent issue (seen on 
github). The gpx import (opening a gpx file in Osmand from file 
browser/sharing) seems to be buggy at the moment.

The favorites work. You have several possibilities how to get them into 
Osmand. 
First, the favorites file. The name is "favourites.gpx" in the 
/storage/emulated/0/Android/data/net.osmand/files folder, not MyFavs.gpx, 
as far as I can see. 
Should this not work, two other ways to get them in:
Restore the backup (it is in 
/storage/emulated/0/Android/data/net.osmand/files/backup folder or perhaps 
your old folder). Should this not be possible, move the MyFavs.gpx into the 
/storage/emulated/0/Android/data/net.osmand/files/tracks folder. You can 
then let Osmand display the "track" - it doesn't distinguish between "real" 
tracks and POIs. You will have to move the points into your favorites to 
get it work as it was or you could simply use the "track" as it is.

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Re: Location of map files

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On Wednesday, 15 August 2018 09:15:56 UTC+2, OA wrote:
>
> I'm trying to move OsmAnd from old Samsung Note 2 to new Note 4 phone and 
> stuck with this problem...
>
> I have microSD card from my old phone, that contains all my map files 
> (.OBF), my tracks (.GPX), my rendering files, etc. When I put it in new 
> phone, OsmAnd refuses to use my files. In "*Settings | Global app 
> settings | Misc | Data storage folder*" I can set some data folder, but 
> it's not the folder containing all my files. I can set folders 
> "/storage/emulated/0/Android/data/net.osmand/files" (in phone itself, it's 
> called "External storage 1") or 
> "/storage/-/Android/data/net.osmand/files" (called "External 
> storage 2"). OsmAnd doesn't see those files. Just in case, I have copies of 
> all my files in two locations: "/phone/osmand" and in "/SD/osmand" folders.
>
> When I try to set manually location to those folders, I'm getting error: 
> "Maps could not be created in specified directory"... May be it's because 
> "Data storage folder" is used not for maps and tracks, but for temporary 
> caches?
>
> How to set the folder, that contains *my* map files, tracks, rendering 
> and other common files from my previous setup?
>
>
First, putting old SD card into a new phone could bring few problems. 

If you can dedicate the time to it, go the long way around - copy all the 
folders/files from SD card to a computer, put the SD card in the phone, 
format it, set up the apps on the phone and manually copy data from 
corresponding folders back on the SD card - meaning the folders won't be 
necessarily the same, for example old SDcard/Osmand could be now 
SDcard/android/net.osmand... Use it to do a clean up as well, we all have 
files on the SDcard where we don't even know any more why and what it is :)

If you don't want to do it this way, just for the Osmand app do this:
- rename the old osmand folder (with the maps) just to be sure
- open Osmand, find the data folder it did set (or you can set up a new 
one). Remember this path.
- close Osmand
- open file explorer app and copy all the subfolders and files from the old 
folder to the new one, one by one

This should get you the same end result. Don't try to get Osmand work with 
your old folder, accept that it is easier to give it the files where it can 
see it. 

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Re: Howto save a computed track

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On Monday, 13 August 2018 18:19:50 UTC+2, Helmut Jarausch wrote:
>
> Computing long distance tracks take quite some time.
> Is it possible to save such a track for later usage? 
> If this isn't possible, yet, 
> please take this as a feature request.


When the route is completely computed, click on the row with the distance 
and time (not at the arrow on left, just the text itself). Then you can 
review it - and save as gpx as well. 

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Re: Offline routing issues

[Majka]

On Monday, 13 August 2018 13:57:47 UTC+2, Nelson A. de Oliveira wrote:
>
> On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 8:49 AM, Martin Scharm  > wrote: 
> > What needs maps with less than 25 days? Should I update my offline maps 
> and reproduce the error? 
>
> It seems that by just updating to the latest map version (August 1) 
> should solve your problem. 
>

I don't think so, unless the no_u_turn restriction is set there correctly. 
The issue and its correction did need newer map because it seems that the 
existing no_u_turn restriction wasn't propagated into the map itself, as 
far as I could understand it.

But the main problem (IMHO) still exists - for some reason, Osmand needs 
the no_u_turn restriction to avoid routing which doesn't make any sense by 
itself. I mean sometimes the suggested route goes against all reason - 
making several sharp turns and taking longer route instead of taking 
shorter, simpler one. Putting the missing no_u_turn restriction in the data 
doesn't solve the problem, it simply stops its occurrence  at one exact 
place where the correction is made and the problem will come later at 
another one. 
There has to be some other problem in the routing cost calculation - no way 
the suggested routing should come out "cheaper/faster" than the correct one 
- even allowing that the suggested route would be a valid/legal one.

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Re: osmand shows me trail but how to follow

[Majka]

On Friday, 10 August 2018 14:10:47 UTC+2, Sean Beansea wrote:
>
> Hello,
> osmand shows me a great trail for walking. How can I follow this trail? I 
> like a navigation like a gpx route, but the trail is already on the map  
> and I dont know how to choose it for navigation.
> Thank you
>

What is the problem? You have simply to choose foot navigation, some point 
at the end of the trail and the navigation should choose the trail, if this 
is the best way. If not, choose point at the start of the trail as 
intermediate waypoint (add to the navigation). Unless there is something 
very wrong with the data, the trail will be followed.

The only problem could be a marked trail, not following the navigation 
logic - meaning the way is not the best in theory. Then, you either have to 
download the gpx of the trail route and navigate along gpx, or put several 
intermediate points in navigation and bring it on your preferred trail this 
way.

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Re: Where are the settings for OSMAnd+

[Majka]

On Monday, 6 August 2018 20:54:36 UTC+2, Lodro Gyamtso wrote:
>
> has anyone found this days, if latest version has somewhere the ability to 
> backup the settings into a file, so we can restore them to a new phone or 
> after a hard reset ???
>
> something we can found for a long time ago into other outdoor app like 
> OruxMaps or LocusMaps. 
>

Still not possible. You can backup it by the way of adb backup - either 
directly, or using app (Helium Backup / oandbackup). To be clear, you have 
to use adb backup, not the adb pull command. 

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Re: Routing with OsmAnd

[Majka]

As far as I know, the only way is to do as you are doing now. 

Some navigation apps are snapping the selection to the nearest road / 
crossing / address, IMHO, nothing like this is possible in Osmand. Well, an 
idea could be to find POI on the highway (on the correct side) you want to 
drive, selecting these works better then trying to get the lane alone.

On Monday, 6 August 2018 21:48:13 UTC+2, jack vandes wrote:
>
> I use OsmAnd for navigating by car. In many cases to go from A to B a 
> number of alternative routes (suppose all highways) may be possible. 
> In case I prefer a route along another highway than calculated, in order 
> to change it, I have to add an intermediate waypoint. A waypoint can be 
> added by selecting a favorite, selecting an address or by selecting it on 
> the map. The latter one seems to be the most appropriate but is i.m.h.o. 
> not really handy. If you do not accurately tap on the right lane of the 
> highway you have a problem. Do I overlook something? Is there a better way 
> to let the system calculate a route that passes along a preferred highway?
>

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Re: migration to a new smartphone

[Majka]

On Sunday, 20 May 2018 14:17:49 UTC+2, Emanuele Costantini wrote:
>
> I managed to import my Favourites sending them through email and importing 
> them onto the new phone, but I quite like to 
>
backup them from the original folder.
>

That's a different problem - you are trying to access files in the hidden 
data folder, not maps as needed in the original post.

See the topic "Transfer (export/import) POI Filter ("custom filter") to 
another divice".

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Re: installation of Osmand~ nightly built apk file fails

[Majka]

On Friday, 18 May 2018 19:45:35 UTC+2, guy vanvuchelen wrote:
>
> I have the same problem, both with the nightly version and with the beta 
> version.
> There is still at least 2 GB available on both internal and external 
> memory.
>

Exactly what I meant - this is not the free space you need. The space for 
app installation is in "system", much smaller than what you see (unless 
rooted, and even so it is difficult to see free space for app installing ). 
But I cannot be sure this is the exact reason - just a possible one.

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Re: installation of Osmand~ nightly built apk file fails

[Majka]

On Thursday, 17 May 2018 22:25:22 UTC+2, Stephan75 wrote:
>
> Phone device is a Moto G (peregrine) with Android 5.1 ... Total commander 
> says the I have more than 700 MB free memory on internal device, next to my 
> sd card.
>

The 700 MB are not what is needed to install an app. What you need at the 
moment is free memory dedicated for installation of apps and that is not 
the same as the memory on internal device. I don't know any way to see what 
is available on device for this purpose - often the only sign is that the 
install fails or the device says "not enough memory".

Not sure if this is the real reason. You could try to backup few (smaller) 
apps, uninstall these, try to install Osmand and install the smaller apps 
back. The reason it could work is that during the installation much more 
memory is needed then the size needed for the app itself. Again, no idea if 
this would help.

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Re: osmand live still working ok?

[Majka]

On Saturday, 12 May 2018 14:54:29 UTC+2, Greg Troxel wrote:
>
> Is osmand live working for anyone else?  Apparently broken? 
>

It is working again (since yesterday). 

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Re: Sharing

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On Saturday, 28 April 2018 18:54:00 UTC+2, guy vanvuchelen wrote:
>
> In OsmAnd you can share a track via menu - my places - GPX tracks. If you 
> click on the sharing icon you can upload the track to a cloud service. You 
> can choose between for example Google Drive or Dropbox. However, if you 
> have chosen one service, you can not use the other later. Or I do not know 
> how to do this.
>

It is not Osmand setting, but the "gpx - sharing" setting. Highly probable 
you have set Google Drive or Dropbox or whatever as "default" for opening 
gpx files.
Look in device's Settings > apps > the app which is opening it by default, 
and see if it is set as default app for anything. Disable. The sharing menu 
comes again, but this time do not set one of the app as default - you get 
then choose each and every time separately.

There are apps which can find all the apps set as default and manage them 
for easier work but I cannot recommend one - I am not using it.

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Re: migration to a new smartphone

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Additionally, there are several apps, that can do backup of currently 
installed apps. For example: ES File Explorer (Play), OpenAPK (Fdroid) and 
a number of others.
These can backup the installed apps on the old phone (without data). You 
can then copy the whole folder with backups and install these apps on the 
new phone. You need to allow installation outside of Google Play - this can 
be allowed, the apps installed and again removed this option.
Some Android "flavors" will allow you this without going into settings 
(asking every time if it is OK to install the app). 

This way is useful if you have apps installed that are not available on 
Google Play any more.

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