Re: [vdr] Filesystem hierachy standard patch needs review.

2012-04-07 Thread VDR User
On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 9:50 PM, Gero geronimo...@gmx.de wrote:
 I can't stand when things are installed all over the place.

 Let's take a quick look at real life:
 if you need to exchange the tooth belt on your motorcycle - will you perform
 that task in your living room?

 if you visit your friend for the first time and you look for a cold beer - 
 will
 you look in his bedroom?

 In real life we all spread our things all over the house to keep them in
 order. The refrigerator will be placed in the kitchen, the car in the garage
 and your bed will most probably be in your bedroom.

I don't spread things all over my house and from the sound of it
neither do you(?). All my bathroom items are in the bathroom. All my
kitchen items are in my kitchen. All my office items are in my office.
I keep everything VDR in one place. It works great (for me). I see no
reason to put a VDR binary in one dir, plugin binaries in another dir,
config files in another dir, this stuff in this dir, that stuff in yet
another dir..

 If you like to sleep on toilet or shit in your kitchen - I don't mind.
 For me, people that like to keep their PC in order behave quite natural,
 there's no need to offend them for thinking different.

I'm not sure who is offended but if my personal preference  opinion
offends you, maybe you shouldn't value other peoples preferences 
opinions so much because it's not a big deal.

Instead of going on about that stuff, which is completely irrelevant,
maybe someone can answer what I've already asked:

As far as the patch, is it really necessary to split the files up even
further? What is the real benefit? Also, don't different distros use
different dir structures, so what's common on some may not be on
others? If this is an attempt to standardize something, it's probably
best to find a standard that exists across _all_ distros (if this
isn't the case here).

Cheers

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Re: [vdr] Filesystem hierachy standard patch needs review.

2012-04-06 Thread VDR User
On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Gero geronimo...@gmx.de wrote:
 Well, *I* think, that there's a big difference between keeping things in order
 compared to spreading things all over the place.

I can't stand when things are installed all over the place. It's too
messy and pointless in my opinion. I'm in the habit of simply running
VDR from it's source dir and using symlinks. It makes things very easy
like archiving working/test sources, changing between versions without
any needless 'reinstall'ing, etc. I see no benefit what-so-ever to
installing over running VDR from the source dir, unless of course
you're using pre-compiled binaries.

As far as the patch, is it really necessary to split the files up even
further? What is the real benefit? Also, don't different distros use
different dir structures, so what's common on some may not be on
others? If this is an attempt to standardize something, it's probably
best to find a standard that exists across _all_ distros (if this
isn't the case here).

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Re: [vdr] [ANNOUNCE] VDR developer version 1.7.27

2012-03-31 Thread VDR User
On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 4:10 PM, Dominic Evans oldma...@gmail.com wrote:
 - The channel name column in the What's on now/next menu now adjusts its
 width  to display the full short name of each channel (suggested by Dominic
 Evans).

 Unfortunately, this doesn't seem to be working. I just upgraded to vdr
 1.7.27 and the channel name is now only a single character for every
 channel.

I had the same problem here as well. Klaus has fixed it, try the patch below:


diff -pruN vdr-1.7.27-orig/channels.c vdr-1.7.27/channels.c
--- vdr-1.7.27-orig/channels.c  2012-03-25 22:46:14.294920001 -0700
+++ vdr-1.7.27/channels.c   2012-03-28 09:29:23.734920001 -0700
@@ -955,7 +955,7 @@ int cChannels::MaxShortChannelNameLength
   if (!maxShortChannelNameLength) {
  for (cChannel *channel = First(); channel; channel = Next(channel)) {
  if (!channel-GroupSep())
-maxShortChannelNameLength =
max(Utf8StrLen(channel-ShortName()), maxShortChannelNameLength);
+maxShortChannelNameLength =
max(Utf8StrLen(channel-ShortName(true)), maxShortChannelNameLength);
  }
  }
   return maxShortChannelNameLength;

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Re: [vdr] Xine plugin and vdr 1.7.27

2012-03-30 Thread VDR User
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 9:02 AM, Jouni Karvo jouni.ka...@iki.fi wrote:
 it seems xine-plugin 0.9.4 does not compile with vdr 1.7.27.

I'm not sure if Rnissl has done a proper fix yet but in the meantime
you can try:

diff -pruN xine-0.9.4-orig/Makefile xine-0.9.4/Makefile
--- xine-0.9.4-orig/Makefile2012-03-30 09:54:28.0 -0700
+++ xine-0.9.4/Makefile 2012-03-30 09:55:25.0 -0700
@@ -97,7 +97,7 @@ OBJS = $(PLUGIN).o xineDevice.o xineLib.

 ### The main target:

-all: libvdr-$(PLUGIN).so i18n xineplayer
+all: libvdr-$(PLUGIN).so xineplayer

 ### Implicit rules:

diff -pruN xine-0.9.4-orig/xine.c xine-0.9.4/xine.c
--- xine-0.9.4-orig/xine.c  2012-03-30 09:54:28.0 -0700
+++ xine-0.9.4/xine.c   2012-03-30 09:55:01.0 -0700
@@ -13,7 +13,6 @@
 #include xineDevice.h
 #include xineSettings.h
 #include xineSetupPage.h
-#include xineI18n.h



@@ -208,9 +207,6 @@ bool cPluginXine::ProcessArgs(int argc,

 bool cPluginXine::Initialize(void)
 {
-#if APIVERSNUM  10507
-  RegisterI18n(PluginXine::Phrases);
-#endif

   // Initialize any background activities the plugin shall perform.
   m_remote = new PluginXine::cXineRemote(m_remoteOn);

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Re: [vdr] vdr crashes when replaying zero length recording

2012-03-13 Thread VDR User
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 8:08 AM, Torgeir Veimo torg...@netenviron.com wrote:
 I've seen this a lot lately. due to tuning problems with my nova-t
 500s, I've gotten frequent zero length recordings. Playing back these
 either using the xine plugin, or xineliboutput, causes VDR to crash
 and restart.

 I'm using yavdr with only trivial modifications.

I compile VDR myself and never have this problem. I use vdr-xine and
have been test softhddevice but in case of an empty recording, VDR
just returns to live tv. Sounds like a yavdr problem -- last I heard
yavdr uses a bunch of patches but since I don't use it I don't know
that 100%.

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Re: [vdr] vdr crashes when replaying zero length recording

2012-03-13 Thread VDR User
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:54 AM, Frank Neumann
v...@auktion.hostingkunde.de wrote:
 last I heard yavdr uses a bunch of patches but since I don't use it I don't 
 know that 100%.

 Well that's always good and cheap to talk about things about any individual 
 heard about ... :-(

There is nothing wrong with passing along what you've heard.
Furthermore, I intentionally pointed out that I don't know that to be
100% true. Your claim that my comment is cheap is completely
uncalled for. If you wanted to reply, rather than trying to insult me
you should have clarified that YES yavdr applies patches to VDR, or NO
it does not.

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Re: [vdr] vdr crashes when replaying zero length recording

2012-03-13 Thread VDR User
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 12:43 PM, Frank Neumann
v...@auktion.hostingkunde.de wrote:
 That's what I read: Hey stupid I'm super cool and able to compile VDR by 
 myself, you're a nobody just able to use this bullshit yaVDR ...

Then you're a complete idiot because that is NOT what I said.

Grow up.

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Re: [vdr] Theses Client/Server VDR

2012-03-04 Thread VDR User
On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 5:39 AM, Tony Houghton h...@realh.co.uk wrote:
 Servers able to (dis)allow timer privileges (create, modify, delete)
 for each client.
 Servers able to (dis)allow recording privileges (edit, delete) for
 each client.

 A reasonable idea, but IMO it would need to be easily configurable on
 the fly, eg in vdradmin, not buried in a config file that requires VDR
 to be restarted after editing.

I think restarts should be avoided as much as possible. There's
nothing more annoying than restart/reboot, especially when it's not
necessary!

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Re: [vdr] [ANNOUNCE] VDR developer version 1.7.24

2012-03-02 Thread VDR User
On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 4:13 AM, Tony Houghton h...@realh.co.uk wrote:
 Signal the server to start recording. But then the client has to be able
 to match up its buffer with what the server has recorded after the
 buffer filled and let the server know when the temp recording is no
 longer needed. Complicated.

Maybe something like this would work...

User can define how much of his ram he wants used for buffering. VDR
uses x% of this for constant buffering. The remainder is only used
when pause/rewind has been pressed. When the remainder is filled, the
entire buffer is dumped to disk as a temp recording, which continued
to be recorded until a) live view has been resumed for X secs, or b)
until the show ends. The temp recording is then purged after a user
defined X minutes (or never if 0) of it's last modified timestamp.

If live buffering is to be added, it should have some flexibility, but
it still doesn't need to be overly complicated. Whatever the actual
live buffer behavior, I believe a ram-based solution is the best
choice for a number of reasons.

 Have the server record everything it plays and not bother with buffering
 in the client. I don't think most people want VDR to work that way
 because of extra load on the hard drive.

HELL NO! I will not use software that forces my harddrive(s) into a
constant write state 24/7. I don't want the extra wear. I don't want
the extra heat. I don't want the extra power consumption. And I'm
certainly not alone.

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Re: [vdr] [ANNOUNCE] VDR developer version 1.7.24

2012-03-01 Thread VDR User
On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Udo Richter udo_rich...@gmx.de wrote:
 Am 01.03.2012 07:03, schrieb VDR User:
 one option to spread
 the workload could be Klaus assigning different portions to different
 contributors that would like to work on it. If Klaus is clear about
 what he wants and is in good communication with other coders, perhaps
 it could become more of a team effort with Klaus as team captain..

 The number of Klaus per VDR has always been quite limited. A developer
 team would surely speed things up, but I also understand that Klaus
 prefers to keep all development in his own hands instead of delegating
 and supervising. Letting 'his baby' off the hook isn't easy, and I would
 understand if he prefers to keep it under control.

I'm not talking about him releasing control of anything. I'm talking
about people wanting  willing to help develope, being assigned a code
task and parameters. When the work is complete, Klaus reviews and
either accepts/merges, or instructs the coder what needs to be
changed. There's no reason for Klaus to release control of anything in
this model. As long as there's a clear instruction of what he wants,
and good communication along the way, I can't think of any good reason
against it.

In a sense this already happens, just on a smaller scale. VDR already
contains non-Klaus code. Surely there's a middle ground where
development can be assisted because in reality this doesn't need to
take forever. Nobody expects it to be finished in a week, but it
doesn't need to take forever either.

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Re: [vdr] [ANNOUNCE] VDR developer version 1.7.24

2012-02-29 Thread VDR User
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 12:20 AM, Klaus Schmidinger
klaus.schmidin...@tvdr.de wrote:
 Yes, the next stable version will be 2.0.
 Version 1.0 was the SD version, and version 2.0 shall be the HD version
 ;-).

Sounds good! :)

 I'll see to make client/server a priority after that.

I honestly had to read this a couple times to make sure I wasn't
misunderstanding some how. This is a huge announcement and I think
everyone will agree a big step in the right direction to suit modern
needs. Since it sounds like true server/client will really happen for
VDR now, maybe it would be a wise idea to start a dedicated thread to
it for collecting information on identifying the needs/wants, and ways
they can be met. This is a great opportunity to thoroughly think
things through so the actual server/client design  integration
addresses all the necessary considerations.

...What an awesome way to start off the day! You're my hero Klaus! :D

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Re: [vdr] [ANNOUNCE] VDR developer version 1.7.24

2012-02-29 Thread VDR User
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Udo Richter udo_rich...@gmx.de wrote:
 In any case this would be the biggest rewrite of major parts of VDR
 ever, with lots of breakage, total loss of plugin compatibility and very
 long development cycle.

It's not a small task, but I believe the end product will be well
worth the effort. VDR has the benefit of having coder support. If
people are willing (as I think they would be), one option to spread
the workload could be Klaus assigning different portions to different
contributors that would like to work on it. If Klaus is clear about
what he wants and is in good communication with other coders, perhaps
it could become more of a team effort with Klaus as team captain..
It's a lot of work but there's no reason it should take years to
complete either. Especially if the design is well-thought out ahead of
time.

As far as plugin breakage..  I would expect there to be some growing
pains and plugin maintainers needing to fix/add support for this is
just a necessary part of the progression. Keep in mind, people have
been wishing for VDR to go this route for quite a while so even if it
means extra work fixing plugins, I think you'll find more people
welcoming this change than not.

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Re: [vdr] [ANNOUNCE] VDR developer version 1.7.24

2012-02-28 Thread VDR User
I'm included in the list of people that wished VDR supported real
server/client. I don't mean hacks and workarounds but real true
support, which of course means a major redesign. I know several users
who hated to but left VDR because it lacks this. Bringing VDR to
modern times/needs would be absolutely great but based on previous
posts it seems very unlikely this is going to happen. :(

Then again it looked like Klaus would never give HD  non-FF priority
and that need was meet so who knows?

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Re: [vdr] SoftHDDevice

2012-02-23 Thread VDR User
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 2:38 AM, fnu v...@auktion.hostingkunde.de wrote:
 Dudes,

 did set up a basic VDR on Ubuntu Precise yesterday and it did work as 
 expected.

 Install a minimal Ubuntu from alternate installer, add apt-get install xorg 
 nvidia-current, VDR e.g. from our yaVDR PPA (ppa:yavdr/unstable-vdr, 
 ppa:yavdr/main) incl. vdr-plugin-softhddevice and you're almost done. 
 SoftHDDevice does start with this basic Xorg from Ubuntu repository, no 
 additional WM like openbox, fluxbox, lightdm etc. needed.

I've been testing softhddevice basically since I first saw this
thread. I never heard of softhddevice before that. So far it works
fairly well. There are a few issues to sort out (such as issues
ffw/rew h264 recordings, allowing users to set the color of the
non-video area *for plasma tv users, etc) but overall it's off to a
great start imo. Also, the issues I've found also existed and were
fixed in vdr-xine so I'm confident they could be fixed in softhddevice
as well.

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Re: [vdr] SoftHDDevice

2012-02-07 Thread VDR User
What's the url for this plugin? I would definitely like to try it!

Does it also have a built-in media player?
Does it support an HD osd?

I've always used xine-lib-1.2 vdpau + vdr-xine and the mplayer plugin
for media playback. Then recently tried xineliboutput because it has a
built-in media player.

Thanks

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Re: [vdr] SoftHDDevice

2012-02-07 Thread VDR User
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 8:07 AM, fnu v...@auktion.hostingkunde.de wrote:
 Does it support an HD osd?

 Where ist the difference? Plugin does support OSD size up to display
 resolution ...

How about the new truecolor osd VDR has now?

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Re: [vdr] SoftHDDevice

2012-02-07 Thread VDR User
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 8:55 AM, fnu v...@auktion.hostingkunde.de wrote:
 How about the new truecolor osd VDR has now?

 Well, you did ask regarding a HD OSD which isn't automatically a true
 color OSD ...

Sorry, I had two questions. 1) does it support HD resolution, and 2)
does it support truecolor. I should have been more clear. Sounds like
the answer is yes to both though.

 Whereas AFAIK true color OSD is also possible with SD (576i) output, e.g.
 xine/xineliboutput. The main problem, there isn't any real true color OSD
 skin out there, to use it ...

I've made several truecolor themes for yaepghd but bball (the author)
never added support for it so I've been hoping for another option to
use them. Do you know of any VDR skinning tutorial? Maybe my work can
be used afterall.

 But the skins I did test, looked impressive with softhddevice :-)

I've now tried softhddevice and upon first impression, I like it!
However, I do have some things to say...

- I haven't figured out how to enter fullscreen mode. The README.txt
does say you need a windows manager but that installs too much crap I
don't need/want. Fullscreen mode should be possible _without_ a
windows manager.

- There's a lot of junk logging, such as:

video: 23:29:31.541 +833  432 206/\ms   3 v-buf
video: 23:29:31.541 +833  432 206/\ms   3 v-buf
video: 23:29:31.561 +853  432 206/\ms   3 v-buf
video: 23:29:31.561 +853  432 206/\ms   2 v-buf
video: 23:29:31.581 +843  545 206/\ms   7 v-buf
video: 23:29:31.581 +826  529 206/\ms   7 v-buf
video: 23:29:31.601 +813  495 206/\ms   7 v-buf

If this is useful for debugging or dev work, it should only be enabled
with a debug switch or something, but spamming the log with info that
appears useless to a regular user is bad behavior.

- Helpful logging is missing. For example, I didn't see anything
telling me I'm using VDPAU. I didn't see anything telling me what the
current deinterlacer being used is. These types of infos _are_ useful
imo and should be present in the log.

- I didn't see an option to toggle between surround sound and
surround-to-stereo mix anywhere. This is very useful to people who
don't leave their receiver and surround sound speakers on 24/7. And
also for people who watch channels with surround sound but only have
stereo speakers.

All our systems are minimal. All using VDPAU. All using audio+video
over HDMI. No windows/desktop/etc, only xserver - only because
vdr-xine/xineliboutput/xine-lib need it to create video output. All
systems are installed on usb stick or sdhc card.

I'm not sure how (un)stable the plugin is yet but I'd like to continue
using this plugin while it matures.

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Re: [vdr] SoftHDDevice

2012-02-07 Thread VDR User
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 11:05 AM, fnu v...@auktion.hostingkunde.de wrote:
 - I haven't figured out how to enter fullscreen mode.

 Well, AFAIK this is mentioned in the README. There are a couple of
 switches/options for the plugin start, one of them is -f for full screen.
 An other one is -d for the correct display and -x to start xorg by the
 plugin. And no, there is no need for a display manager, I wonder where you
 got this information ... most of us do test the plugin on existing Linux
 desktop installtion, because there's quit a way to go ...

From vdr -h:

softhddevice (0.4.7) - A software and GPU emulated HD device

  -a device audio device (fe. alsa: hw:0,0 oss: /dev/dsp)
  -p device audio device (alsa only) for pass-through (hw:0,1)
  -d displaydisplay of x11 server (fe. :0.0)
  -fstart with fullscreen window (only with window manager)
  -g geometry   x11 window geometry wxh+x+y
  -xstart x11 server
-s  start in suspended mode
  -w workaround enable/disable workarounds
no-hw-decoder   disable hw decoder, use software decoder only
no-mpeg-hw-decoder  disable hw decoder for mpeg only
alsa-driver-broken  disable broken alsa driver message

See -f.. only with window manager..  Also, with the -g option, what
is wxh+x+y supposed to mean exactly? wxh(resolution?)+x(x position
for top left corner of the window?)+y(y position of top left corner of
the window?)...?  That's just a guess -- it should be made more clear
imo.

Also, if softhddevice can start an xserver, it should be able to do it
in fullscreen mode so I see no reason at all for windows manager
requirement.

Btw, most of the users I know don't use a Linux desktop, they have
dedicated systems connected directly to their tv. I think it's good to
consider at least the most common setups.

 But VDPAU is IMHO closed to be ready for production use, but not VA-API or
 even XvBA ...

That's good news since I'm a VDPAU-only user. ;)  I did want to build
an i5-based VDR test box just for fun though so eventually I do plan
on trying the other option.

 Since author johns AFAIK isn't dealing with this mailing list, you could
 place your questions here in this tread:

 http://www.vdr-portal.de/board17-developer/board21-vdr-plugins/109700-softhd
 device-software-vdpau-va-api-cpu-decoder-und-ausgabe-plugin/?s=b83100f9ae841
 a9015a5769eb450a5611c1c7cb8

 Don't worry just post in english, you'll get the answer also in english. Or
 feel free to open a new one in english, you will get answers in english ...
 ;-)

Thanks, I just send him a private message providing a link to this
thread and asked that he read it when he has a few free minutes so I
don't have to copypaste.

I do see some promise with this plugin and it's _great_ that one
finally exists which will offer different HW accelerated options, and
not require xine-lib.

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Re: [vdr] SoftHDDevice

2012-02-07 Thread VDR User
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 11:48 AM, Gerald Dachs v...@dachsweb.de wrote:
 Thanks, I just send him a private message providing a link to this
 thread and asked that he read it when he has a few free minutes so I
 don't have to copypaste.

 He told already in the vdr-portal that he wouldn't like to subscribe to this
 list. Generally it might be better if you would have a little bit more work
 doing cutpaste than the plugin author, because he is very busy working on
 the plugin.

There's a large non-german speaking VDR population that wouldn't know
that because of the fact. I've noticed in the past that people at
vdr-portal seem to get annoyed when someone asks them to repeat what
they've already said in german, but again in english. :\

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Re: [vdr] SoftHDDevice

2012-02-07 Thread VDR User
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 12:21 PM, fnu v...@auktion.hostingkunde.de wrote:
  -f            start with fullscreen window (only with window manager)

 Hmm, AFAIK xorg does come with a build in window manager, I'm not 100% sure,
 but I guess it's called xwm.

Xorg comes with a ton of useless dependencies. It's a complete waste
when only xserver is needed.  It's possible xorg comes with xwm but
I'm certain that xserver doesn't.

 This provides just basic window work and I did use just pure xorg over years
 with the softdevice plugin. There was no need to install openbox, fluxbox
 etc.

You don't need a windows manager with xine/vdr-xine either, but
according to softhddevice own text, -f requires it.

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Re: [vdr] xineliboutput and xine-ui not fitting together

2012-02-03 Thread VDR User
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 7:22 AM, Manfred Schmidt-Voigt
manfred.schmidt-vo...@mannitec.de wrote:
 Hello xineliboutput specialist,

 after an update of my debian-sid Desktop last weekend I have no longer a
 working xineplugin (xineplug_inp_xvdr.so) for the xine-ui. xine-ui now ist
 based on libxine2 but the libxine1-xvdr plugin is based on libxine1 (as the
 name allready states). Are there any plans to create a debian package of the
 plugin which fits also to libxine2?

Did you try contacting the xine-lib debian maintainer directly? Maybe
he's unaware of the problem. Regardless, you can always just compile
themself as I do.

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Re: [vdr] [ANNOUNCE] VDR developer version 1.7.23

2012-01-23 Thread VDR User
On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 9:46 AM, Halim Sahin halim.sa...@t-online.de wrote:
 Hi,
 The media_build repo contains only backported drivers.
 Are you sure that the new api changes were backported?

The media_build repo is a daily snapshot of what you'd get with
media_tree (minus the kernel source itself).

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Re: [vdr] howto ignore lines in channels.conf

2012-01-15 Thread VDR User
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 3:29 AM, Ville Skyttä ville.sky...@iki.fi wrote:
 Even though they'd get lost when VDR writes it, allowing comments there
 would be an improvement so distros (and VDR itself) could ship the file
 with some comments in it that instruct users what they need to do before
 things will work, or what the file is for, or...  Same thing applies to
 remote.conf, setup.conf, and timers.conf.

 If the AllowComments parameter exists just for the purpose of
 disallowing comments in files where VDR doesn't preserve them, I suggest
 removing that restriction altogether and allowing comments everywhere.
 Allowing comments and preserving them are two different things.  For
 files where VDR doesn't preserve them it could note that on the first
 line of such files, for example like:

 # Warning: VDR will overwrite this file without preserving comments.

I see no real benefit in complicating file (which stores only channel
information) functions with what you've suggested. It just seems like
a bunch of unnecessary work inside VDR for something that isn't any
more useful than simply putting such info/comments in the README,
MANUAL, INSTALLATION, or other appropriate files.

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Re: [vdr] shouldn't a vdr recording pause during status 3 flag?

2012-01-13 Thread VDR User
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Lou tuxoho...@hotmail.de wrote:
 Where can I find tarballs for vdr 1.4.x? Your webspace only ships version
 patches (diff)

ftp://ftp.tvdr.de/vdr/

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Re: [vdr] LiveBuffer for vdr 1.7.x

2012-01-01 Thread VDR User
On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 11:44 AM, René linu...@hertell.com wrote:
 the official gentoo overlay? Even better if it could be added as a basic
 feature of vdr (that could be turned on/off from the settings :-) Klaus?
 Please, please, please :-)

There was talk of this some time ago, though I don't think anything
solid came of it. I personally am not interested in it unless ram came
be used for the buffer storage. Having a harddrive (or even worse, an
ssd) in a constant write state 24/7 is not something I'd like to do.
Whatever the case, I think you'll be stuck with the patch for a while.

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Re: [vdr] LiveBuffer for vdr 1.7.x

2012-01-01 Thread VDR User
On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 1:31 PM, René linu...@hertell.com wrote:
 There was talk of this some time ago, though I don't think anything
 solid came of it. I personally am not interested in it unless ram came
 be used for the buffer storage. Having a harddrive (or even worse, an
 ssd) in a constant write state 24/7 is not something I'd like to do.
 Whatever the case, I think you'll be stuck with the patch for a while.

 I have set my livebuffer to use 2gb memory (hdd). If i would have 4gb ram
 (now i have just 1gb), then i would use a 2gb ramdisk for livebuffer, and
 the rest for my system. This would be more than enough.. :-) But having a
 patch working for vdr is ok too :-)

RAM is cheap enough now days that having plenty of it isn't a problem
for most people. For example, 4GB will cost you less than a few hours
at the pub with friends. :)

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Re: [vdr] vdr] playing divx from vdr

2011-12-20 Thread VDR User
Arturo, please stop starting new threads when replying to the same
subject. Just reply in your original thread from now on ok?

Thanks.

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Re: [vdr] vdr-prefermenu and vdr 1.7.21

2011-12-07 Thread VDR User
On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 7:54 AM, Joe solevit...@googlemail.com wrote:
 A while ago, I forked the prefermenu-plugin and named it favorites. It can
 be downloaded from the German vdr-portal:
 http://www.vdr-portal.de/board1-news/board2-vdr-news/106482-announce-favorites-0-0-1-aka-skin-enabled-prefermenu/
   .  My version is skin enabled, so it uses the original vdr menu functions
 and skin. The drawback might be that the channel list is now a normal vdr
 menu with uses the whole OSD area.

Can you please provide a few screenshots.

Thanks,
Derek

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Re: [vdr] xine dropped frames warning

2011-11-22 Thread VDR User
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 3:53 AM, Arturo Martinez marti...@embl.de wrote:

 With
 gui.dropped_frames_warning:0


 in the config file

 (which was added while xine was not running)

 I still get a popup if I use the OSD for a minute or so


 See screenshot:

 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9975371/IMG_2022_124523.jpg

 So since the line does not truly disable warnings for me, my question
 still remains valid.

 Is there a different line I need to put in the config file or else how
 can I mod the source code to make the warnings invisible?

The command works as expected so the only possible explanation is user
error.  So either xine was running when you edited the config file, or
you didn't edit the right one as Torgeir Veimo suggested.  You have to
edit the config file for whichever user has started xine.  If you
started xine as root then edit /root/.xine/config, if you started it
as user timmy then /home/timmy/.xine/config, etc..  There is one more
option also.. You can use the -c command line switch to force xine to
use a certain config file:

xine -c /path/to/good/xine.config

Then you can verify the config contains the correct setting with:

[[ $(grep ^gui.dropped_frames_warning:0 /path/to/good/xine.config)
]]  echo config is good :) || echo config is bad :(

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Re: [vdr] xine dropped frames warning

2011-11-20 Thread VDR User
On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 1:39 AM, Arturo Martinez marti...@embl.de wrote:
 I have added


 gui.dropped_frames_warning:0

 but still if the system gets stressed I get a warning box

 Some xine dev knows by any chance how to remove xine´s ability to
 display warning boxes or to make them of size 0x0 pixels ?

I assume you did not unload xine before editing the config file.  The
file can not be edited while xine is running.

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Re: [vdr] xine dropped frames warning

2011-11-19 Thread VDR User
On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 7:04 AM, Arturo Martinez marti...@embl.de wrote:
 This works well but ocassionally the system is busy and I get a warning
 that too many frames have been dropped


 Is there some way I can make sure I get no such warnings?
 The PC has only a remote control, no mouse so it is a real problem to
 get these warnings

 I wouldn´t mind to recompile the source code if somebody could point out
 a patch to remove the xine´s code for the warning boxes

Those annoy a lot of people.  Just add this to your xine config:

gui.dropped_frames_warning:0

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Re: [vdr] VDR and Hybrid DVB Cards ( was HVR 4000 drivers broken - adapter0/frontend1 busy in linux-media list )

2011-11-15 Thread VDR User
This is starting to sound like a big overhaul.  If that's the case,
maybe it should go one step further and compartmentalize all the
settings so VDR can take the next step and provide a true
server/client option. ;)

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Re: [vdr] VDR logs and logwatch

2011-11-13 Thread VDR User
On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Kartsa k...@kniivila.com wrote:
 Has anyone built a script for logwatch to get VDR messages from the logs? I
 am not familiar with perl which is mostly used with logwatch scripts. I
 assume it is possible to use any other language as well but thought that I
 would ask here if anyone has already a solution :)

That's very easy but what exactly is it you want to check for in the log?

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Re: [vdr] vdr-sxfe can't connect

2011-11-09 Thread VDR User
 vdr -Pxineliboutput --local=none --remote=37890 --primary

try: vdr -P'xineliboutput --local=none --remote=37890 --primary'

Using double-quotes is problematic.

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Re: [vdr] reencode/transcode to(!) vdr

2011-10-27 Thread VDR User
On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 11:26 AM, M. Fiegert m...@trigfee.de wrote:
 can anybody please point me to some examples how to transcode/reencode to
 vdr format (ts or pes if necessary)?
 I found a lot of convert scripts, mencoder commandlines, ... to transcode
 from vdr to eg mp4. Unfortunatly I could not find anything for the opposite
 direction :-(

 How can I go the other way round (to view external files in vdr with the
 same comfort as native recordings) or reencode recordings (to compress pes
 and ts mpeg recordings to h264 with lower resolution - you don't need full
 picture quality on an archive of political discussions for example).
 I could not find a mencoder option to output ts. I guess i need to encode
 with mencoder and then remux with some other tool?

Why don't you just use the mplayer plugin?  It works with practically
no effort and you don't have to waste your time unnecessarily
converting  things to mpeg-ts.

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Re: [vdr] Wanted VDR xineliboutput client

2011-10-18 Thread VDR User
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 7:10 AM, Tony Houghton h...@realh.co.uk wrote:
 I'm a vdpau user and can say it's works just fine here.

 Did you compile the xine stack yourself? I find it's very picky, eg if I
 try to use a repository with a set of packages that allegedly support
 VDPAU, vdr-sxfe doesn't work at all, and there are also difficulties
 getting xine, mplayer and gstreamer to all coexist with ffmpeg.

I compile xine-lib-1.2 myself.  I use mplayer-nogui (and have used
mplayer2), but I don't use gstreamer, and don't bother installing
ffmpeg since everything works fine without an external copy.

 Wouldn't fit. The Microserver only takes low profile cards and the x16
 slot is also the one nearest the side of the case so there's no room for
 a double height backplane or thick heatsink like this:

Sorry, I missed the low profile card requirement.

 An 8400GS might fit, but I wouldn't expect its VDPAU capabilities to be
 up to much. I currently use 8200 onboard graphics with mplayer VDPAU and
 it's rather jerky as if it's dropping frames just on 720p (with the TV
 at 1280x720 so no scaling is required). But that could be mplayer
 struggling to sync 24fps to 60Hz.

I used 8400's before upgrading to GT220  GT240.  They worked ok but
the best deinterlacer I could use on HD content was bob.  I haven't
used an 8200igp as you are but based on my experience with 8400, I
would guess 8400 is the minimum requirement.

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Re: [vdr] Wanted VDR xineliboutput client

2011-10-17 Thread VDR User
On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Tony Houghton h...@realh.co.uk wrote:
 Is this client only with no DVB cards? You could use an Acer Revo,
 provided you're confident that you can get VDPAU working, because the
 Atom CPU is a bit weak for HD. An HP Microserver with an added graphics

I'm a vdpau user and can say it's works just fine here.

 they're only about £130 with the cashback offer. Unfortunately I
 couldn't find a passively cooled VDPAU-capable card that would fit so I

There are a few, here's on example:

1 slot passive cooled Zotac GT430
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500221

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Re: [vdr] vdr segfault

2011-10-13 Thread VDR User
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 5:42 AM, Roland Behme r...@nugman.de wrote:
 What can I do to find out the offending plugin?
 Try to deactivate the plugins one by one.

A core dump and gdb may help as well.

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Re: [vdr] vdr-checkts + vdrnfofs

2011-10-04 Thread VDR User
This is a little off-topic but is there a VDR plugin to view nfo +
jpg?  Maybe even in the osd since VDR now supports truecolor..?  This
is the one big feature imo that things such as the mplayer plugin lack
and it's really a shame.

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Re: [vdr] [ANNOUNCE] VDR developer version 1.7.21

2011-09-24 Thread VDR User
On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 4:22 PM, semsem85 sami sami8...@hotmail.com wrote:


 On Fri, 23 Sep 2011, Rolf Ahrenberg wrote:If you have somewhere such a 
 recording available, I could take a look at

it and make sure my patch really fixes subtitling on those Sky Italia
  channels.

 I have made a 2 min recording on one of sky italia channels. Here is the link:

 https://rapidshare.com/files/3992138005/1.ts

 Hope this helps.

 Thanks and best regards,

 Sami

Will you please stop making new threads with the same title!
Especially a VDR announcement title. :\

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Re: [vdr] xine with new AAC LATM support

2011-09-13 Thread VDR User
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 4:16 AM, Chris Rankin ranki...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Just in case anyone is interested:

 There has been a sudden spike in xine development (1.1.19 branch), and AAC
 LATM audio should now be working with MPEG-TS streams. You will also need to
 be using FFmpeg = 0.7.

Have your patches been merged yet?  When will they be merged into the
xine-lib-1.2 tree?  I don't know anyone still using 1.1 since 1.2 is
where the vdpau dev happens.

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[vdr] Gentoo overlay vdr-devel + vdr-xineliboutput

2011-08-26 Thread VDR

Hi!  (this may not be perfect forum for my question, but..)

If I select to use Gentoo overlay vdr-devel to get vdr-1.7.19
I cannot use vdr-xineliboutput-1.0.5-r1 plugin because it's blocked for 
=media-video/vdr-1.7


Why?  Is there some reason? Because I have seen xineliboutput-plugin 
working at 1.7.18..
If mainstream gentoo distro wants to block vdr-1.7, should there be 
newer version of that plugin in vdr-devel overlay?


--
JJussi


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Re: [vdr] perfect vdr remote?

2011-07-29 Thread VDR User
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 7:45 AM, Tony Houghton h...@realh.co.uk wrote:
 http://www.ixbt.com/monitor/images/hauppauge-mediamvp/du.jpg

 If anyone else noticed that support for that type of remote got broken
 sometime after 2.6.32, I'm pleased to report mine is working again since
 I upgraded to kernel 3.0.

I've got one of those that has worked fine in 2.6.32 up to 2.6.39.3...
 It's connected with a serial IR.  Maybe support for your particular
IR receiver broke, but that remote has been just fine.

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Re: [vdr] perfect vdr remote?

2011-07-29 Thread VDR User
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 4:17 PM, Tony Houghton h...@realh.co.uk wrote:
  http://www.ixbt.com/monitor/images/hauppauge-mediamvp/du.jpg
 
  If anyone else noticed that support for that type of remote got
  broken sometime after 2.6.32, I'm pleased to report mine is working
  again since I upgraded to kernel 3.0.

 I've got one of those that has worked fine in 2.6.32 up to 2.6.39.3...
  It's connected with a serial IR.  Maybe support for your particular
 IR receiver broke, but that remote has been just fine.

 Mine is connected via the DVB card. It says saa7146 in
 /proc/bus/input/devices but ISTR it's actually the budget or budget_ci
 module that handles it. It used to require a patch a few years ago and I
 think the patch was for the key mappings.

Ahh, gotcha.  Mine came with a nexus-s, which uses av7110_ir.  I saw
the remote and automatically associated it with the nexus.

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Re: [vdr] projects.vdr-developer.org now has a new home

2011-07-29 Thread VDR User
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Tobi listacco...@e-tobi.net wrote:
 Hello everyone!

 http://projects.vdr-developer.org/news/135

 projects.vdr-developer.org is now hosted on a new server:

  Opteron™ 1381 Quad-Core, 4 x 2,5 GHz
  4 GB RAM
  2 x 500 GB (Raid 1)
  500 GB FTP Backup Space
  IP: 85.214.78.111

 The server is still fully sponsored by xeatre.tv (http://www.xeatre.tv).
 Thanks a lot!

 Thanks to Siegmar as well for providing the subdomain!

 It's currently running a 64bit Debian/Squeeze with Kernel 2.6.32-5.

 I also took the chance to change some things under the hood. The updated
 Redmine now runs under a Mongrel cluster served by the Nginx webserver.
 This should give it a minor performance boost.

 git-web has been replaced by cgit, which is significantly faster. You
 might now also use the cgit-URL's to pull a repository via http.
 (http://projects.vdr-developer.org/git)

 Instead of gitosis, I now use gitolite to manage the Git-repositories. I
 have plans to integrate the repository and public key management into
 Redmine at some time, but don't expect this very soon.

 The username for SSH-write-access to the Git-repositories has been changed
 from 'gitosis' to 'git-vdr'. You can still continue to use the old
 username, but I might drop this sometimes. It is easily changed with:

  git remote set-url origin \
    git-...@projects.vdr-developer.org:repository-name.git

 If you are missing a feature, have any improvement suggestions or have
 any problem, please create an issue here:

  http://projects.vdr-developer.org/projects/project-management/issues/new

 or contact me by mail:

  p...@e-tobi.net

 I'm still fine-tuning everything and try to make
 projects.vdr-developer.org as secure and reliable as possible. So if the
 site isn't reachable in the next days for a short time, I might currently
 be working on it. Please try again later in this case or contact me.

 Have fun!

 Tobias

Thanks for making this happen.  It's a great resource for people, and
is appreciated!

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Re: [vdr] perfect vdr remote?

2011-07-27 Thread VDR User
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 12:36 PM, Udo Richter udo_rich...@gmx.de wrote:
 Those kind of remotes are cool but I wouldn't want one for daily use.
 I prefer direct access to many options with one button press, not
 going through menus on a remote screen.

 From my experience, the keys I _really_ use, are:

 (1) Core keys: 0-9, Up/Dn/Left/Right, Menu/Ok/Exit, Color keys, Power,
 Vol+/-

 (2) Keys I often use: Timers, Recordings, EPG

 (3) Nice to have, but not essential: Info, Play/Pause/Stop/Rec/Ffwd/Fbwd

 (4) Rarely used: Mute, Ch+/-, Audio tracks, Subtitle tracks, Channel list


 I can use (1) and (2) and some of (3) completely blind. Having them on
 some kind of touch screen is not an option.

I/we pretty much use the following daily: 0-9, up/down/left/right,
ok/enter/exit, epg, recordings, timers, color keys, subtitle,
play/pause/stop/ffw/rew, record, skip +/-...  I also like to have a
few keys available for macros.

I haven't found any remote that I felt was perfect.  I'd love to
design one with my own specific button layout but the cost to make a
custom remote exceeds my willingness to pay for it so I've got a few
that are good enough.

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Re: [vdr] perfect vdr remote?

2011-07-26 Thread VDR User
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 7:39 AM, Torgeir Veimo torg...@netenviron.com wrote:
 The Philips Prestigo SRT9320 seem to have a perfect key layout for
 VDR. Does anyone have any experience with this remote with VDR?

 http://www.newscenter.philips.com/pwc_nc/main/shared/assets/be/Downloadablefile/Prestigo_SRT9320_product_3.jpg
 http://www.amazon.com/review/B0026L7B94

Those kind of remotes are cool but I wouldn't want one for daily use.
I prefer direct access to many options with one button press, not
going through menus on a remote screen.  For that reason I'm using
this exact one (and a few other which are similar):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16880121003

The perfect remote is decided by opinion only so just get whatever _you_ like.

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Re: [vdr] vdr-1.7.19 recording issue

2011-07-21 Thread VDR User
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 1:41 AM, Mike Booth mike_boot...@iprimus.com.au wrote:
 I've got round the problem of noty being able to play recordings made with
 vdr-1.7.19 by removing recorder.c recorder.h recording.c recording.h and
 remux.c remux.h and replacing them with the same files from vdr-1.7.18.

 Not very elegant but seems to work with new recordings and in the absebce of
 anything else

You experience this problem with vanilla VDR?  Or are you adding
patches that may not have been updated to work properly with
VDR-1.7.19?

I've been using VDR-1.7.19, have made tons of recordings, and had no
problems what-so-ever playing them back or playing back older
recordings from previous versions.

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Re: [vdr] Ring buffer overflows with streamdev and remux script

2011-07-14 Thread VDR User
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Udo Richter udo_rich...@gmx.de wrote:
 Is there any reason why the ring buffer can't or shouldn't be dynamic
 aside of just not bothering to implement it?

 Unlimited buffers tend to get unlimited big, crashing your app with
 out-of-memory. Huge buffers also add lag to the signal. With no
 bandwidth issues, buffers are usually almost empty, with bandwidth
 issues, buffers are usually almost full.

I'm not sure such a blanket statement can be made these days.  There
are plenty of apps which grow  shrink buffers on the fly which seem
to be perfectly stable.  I suppose sloppy coding and mishandling of
memory would cause the symptoms you're describing though.

On a side-note, a lot of people experience a frozen vdr/xine with 100%
buffer.  It's never been fixed to my knowledge and it's been a while
since I've seen it brought up but iirc it has nothing to do with
bandwidth.  Rnissl, I think, knows what actually causes that
particular problem.

 In the end you set them as big as necessary, and as small as possible.
 And giving them a fixed size (possibly configurable) is less
 complicated, especially in a multi-threaded environment.

Translation:  path of least resistance.  ;)

Cheers

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Re: [vdr] Ring buffer overflows with streamdev and remux script

2011-07-13 Thread VDR User
On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 12:05 PM, Luboš Doležel lu...@dolezel.info wrote:
 Apart from simplifying the script to a single line I've found a solution:
 I've tripled the size of the ring buffer in vdr-streamdev-server and the
 problem is gone. No problems after hours of playback...

Is there any reason why the ring buffer can't or shouldn't be dynamic
aside of just not bothering to implement it?

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Re: [vdr] Can VDR record only new episodes of shows?

2011-06-07 Thread VDR User
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 12:42 PM, John Klimek jkli...@gmail.com wrote:
 However, my original question was about unaired/new episodes.  For
 example, I'd like to record new episodes of The Simpsons but I don't
 want an episode unless it's never been aired before.  It sounds like
 the Don't allow repeats option is just to check if it's been
 recorded which isn't too useful in my situation.  Suppose an episode
 hasn't aired for several months?  It's not a new episode but just an
 old one that hasn't aired in a while so I would want to skip that
 recording.

I would like this option also and iirc there's actually a flag that
specifies a new episode.  I know at least some providers supply an
original air date as well which could be compared against the
current date if the new flag isn't present.  It would be nice to set
a timer for a show, tell it you want _all_ new episodes, and it's
smart enough to detect schedule changes and so on.  So basically you
could record an entire series (over all seasons) if you wanted to and
only need to set a timer once and forget about it.

It sucks to find out there's been a schedule only after you've missed
some episodes, or have to frequently clean out a cache of dupes.

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Re: [vdr] Weird recording problem

2011-05-28 Thread VDR User
On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 1:57 AM, Johan Andersson j...@jna.pp.se wrote:
 I sent off a question to customer support at Teracom and got a reply
 indicating that they do have an error relating to these channels in their
 'coding platform'. 'Your problem seems to relate to the error we have', was
 their statement. They had no due date for fixing it though.

 I managed to build the yavdr teams vdr-dev(1.7.17) for Ubuntu Lucid, from
 source with my change so I can again record TV6.

 The main reason for using the yavdr stuff is VDPAU, as I use xineliboutput.

Getting a VDR setup with vdpau is very easy.  There's no need to use
special repositories, packages, etc. unless you actually want to.  If
vdpau is the only thing you're after, you might be creating more work
for yourself by not just keeping it small  simple.

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Re: [vdr] Stop live TV whilst in menu

2011-05-12 Thread VDR User
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 12:29 PM, Dominic Evans oldma...@gmail.com wrote:
 Is there any patch for VDR that stops Live TV whilst you're in the menus?

None that I'm aware of but what's the point of doing that anyways?  If
it's a matter of being too distracting or something then you can
always modify the themes transparency so the background is solid and
increase the OSD size to cover the entire video frame.

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Re: [vdr] How about a small UK/Ireland S28.2E VDR community forum?

2011-05-05 Thread VDR User
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 8:38 AM, Henning Pingel henn...@henningpingel.de wrote:
 Maybe this could also be a good starting point for building up an English
 language VDR user community forum - starting off with UK/Ireland users. I
 always thought an English language community was missing next to the German
 language VDR portal (www.vdr-portal.de).

There is already a large english-speaking forum located at DVBN.
http://dvbn.happysat.org

There are a lot of VDR and mythtv users there, some of which actually
use yavdr but most who compile VDR themselves.

@Rob Davis:
Don't worry, you're not alone.  There is a huge NA VDR community,
although most of it exists outside of this mailing list and most VDR
forums.  The best place to associate with your kind is likely the
Linux forum at DVBN. :)

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[vdr] vdr + epgsearch = no timers

2011-05-03 Thread VDR

Hi!
I have strange problem. After installing (again) whole vdr system from 
scratch, epgsearch plugin don't add any timers anymore.
At vdradmin-am I can see all those EPG Search's and if I execute one 
of those, it' find what it should find. But even I click Force Update 
nothing comes to Timers.
Yes, I have set at settings Re-create timers after delete and I have 
done reinstallation with apt-get purge vdr-plugin-epgsearch (that 
removes all config files).


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Re: [vdr] vdr + epgsearch = no timers

2011-05-03 Thread VDR

Hi!
Yes I have..  And I managed to fix that problem.. Error mixing yavdr and 
ubuntu?!?
From somewhere (I don't know where) /etc/init.d/vdr script sat 
--port=2001 (even SVDRP_PORT was not set anywhere) but still at 
/etc/vdr/setup.conf epgsearch.SVDRPPort = 6419


So, everything looked good, except timers could not be added by 
epgsearch plugin... :-)
I found that after I managed to put epgsearch-plugin to verbose level 3 
and point logfile to /tmp -directory...


Thank you everyone who tried to help me solve this! :-)

03.05.2011 10:30, Harald Overas kirjoitti:

Do you have a file called epgsearch.conf inside the folder
/etc/vdr/plugins/epgsearch or /var/lib/vdr/plugins/epgsearch. If not
create one with touch epgsearch.conf and set the correct permission
chown vdr:vdr epgsearch.conf. Chech also if you have a file called
epgsearchdone.data. I use the epgsearch git version from
http://projects.vdr-developer.org/git/?p=vdr-plugin-epgsearch.git;a=summary

Like this:
[archvdr@mythpc epgsearch]$ ls -l /etc/vdr/plugins/epgsearch/
total 28
-rwxr-xr-x 1 vdr vdr 2069 Apr 26 11:40 epgsearchcats.conf
-rwxr-xr-x 1 vdr vdr  987 Apr 26 11:40 epgsearchcmds.conf
-rw-r--r-- 1 vdr vdr 2522 May  1 19:52 epgsearch.conf
-rw-r--r-- 1 vdr vdr 2302 Apr 26 11:40 epgsearchconflmail.templ
-rw-r--r-- 1 vdr vdr0 May  1 19:43 epgsearchdone.data
-rwxr-xr-x 1 vdr vdr 1568 Apr 26 11:40 epgsearchmenu.conf
-rw-r--r-- 1 vdr vdr 4236 Apr 26 11:40 epgsearchupdmail.templ
[archvdr@mythpc epgsearch]$

Epgsearch.conf stores all the timer information from vdradmin or
vdr-live before its written to vdr own /var/lib/vdr/timers.conf or
/etc/vdr/timers.conf

Harald


On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 8:32 AM, VDRv...@jjussi.com  wrote:

Hi!
I have strange problem. After installing (again) whole vdr system from
scratch, epgsearch plugin don't add any timers anymore.
At vdradmin-am I can see all those EPG Search's and if I execute one of
those, it' find what it should find. But even I click Force Update nothing
comes to Timers.
Yes, I have set at settings Re-create timers after delete and I have done
reinstallation with apt-get purge vdr-plugin-epgsearch (that removes all
config files).

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Re: [vdr] TT Premium S2-6400 (F?ley Istv?n)

2011-04-21 Thread VDR User
On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Udo Richter udo_rich...@gmx.de wrote:
 Am 20.04.2011 23:33, schrieb VDR User:
 On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Udo Richter udo_rich...@gmx.de wrote:
 Thats probably because you need at least an 2GHz P4 to boot windows and
 a virus scanner nowadays.

 I seriously doubt virus scanners have anything to do with anything.
 That seems more trying to take a cheap jab at Windows then anything
 else.

 My work PC is an Core 1 Duo 1.8GHz running XP. The PC boots to desktop
 in roughly a minute, but is not usable for another 2 minutes due to high
 CPU and disk load by McAfee virus scanner. (I use SysInternals Process
 Explorer to monitor.) Also, every day at 10 I cannot do anything CPU or
 disk hungry for 1-2 minutes because McAfee does its signature update.
 You really notice that, even without the sudden increase in fan noise.

 Just recently I've upgraded the machine from 1.5Gb to 3Gb RAM with
 noticeable speed improvements. (Visual Studio 2010 is a huge memory
 hog!) Back when XP was released, it was working with 128Mb RAM, and was
 well equipped with 256Mb RAM. The OS is still the same...

I can't believe a dvb card vendor sets their minimum requirements
based on things such as McAfee loads.  It would be absurd to do so.

Btw, I used XP as well for many years.  However, my boot times were
never more then 30 secs.  However, I've never bothered running virus
scanners or anything like that unless I ran into an actual problem
(10 times since win95), in which case I ran one and then exited the
app - never left one running full-time.  My XP boxes all had 1GB or
2GB or ram.  XP + 2GB + VS6 worked great.  I may have also used VS2005
at one point but not since then.  Is VS2010 really that much of a
resource hog??

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Re: [vdr] TT Premium S2-6400 (F?ley Istv?n)

2011-04-20 Thread VDR User
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Udo Richter udo_rich...@gmx.de wrote:
 I was a little bit surprised to see in the specifications that it needs a 
 CPU minimum P4 2 Ghz.

 Thats probably because you need at least an 2GHz P4 to boot windows and
 a virus scanner nowadays. The CPU and RAM demands should be not much
 higher than with an old SD FF card, as long as you only handle the
 encoded video stream like VDR does. The highest 'demand' is probably
 having an PCI Express socket already. (Not that PCI bandwidth wouldn't
 be enough either, but PCIE probably seemed more future proof and simpler.)

I seriously doubt virus scanners have anything to do with anything.
That seems more trying to take a cheap jab at Windows then anything
else.

Anyways, the requirements may be what they are because of what is
actually offloaded to the decoder.

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Re: [vdr] preventing vdr from using a device to record

2011-04-17 Thread VDR User
On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 2:36 AM,  syrius...@no-log.org wrote:
 vdr-sxfe output complains it can't demultiplex the stream, but that
 won't work when I'm away and nobody's watching tv. That won't prevent
 vdr from using the bad card.

If the vdr-sxfe log gives you useful text for this, why can't you
simply write a script that runs in the background and checks for such
text every X seconds.  If the text is found, it can do whatever you
normally do to fix the problem.

I do something similar to detect xine crashes and it works fine.
Although my preference would be the buffer usage: 100% crash would
be fixed once and for all. ;)  But that's another issue..

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Re: [vdr] Can VDR use one specific transponder for EPG information?

2011-04-17 Thread VDR User
On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 6:39 AM, John Klimek jkli...@gmail.com wrote:
 My DVB-S provider sends a 9-day EPG guide only one one specific transponder.

 Is it possible to use only that transponder for EPG grabbing?

 ...or can I specify which channels/transponders to use somehow?

AFAIK VDR isn't capable of that.  I just remember to tune an EEPG
transponder every few days.  You could write a little cron script to
tune your EEPG transponder each day at some hour like 4am (assuming
you're sleeping at that time), let it sit for however long it takes to
populate, and then tune back to the channel it was on previously.

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Re: [vdr] Can VDR use one specific transponder for EPG information?

2011-04-17 Thread VDR User
On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 9:18 AM, John Klimek jkli...@gmail.com wrote:
 What's the best way to tune to that transponder?  Using SVDRP?

 (ie. I'm new to VDR but would I issue a CHAN command, then wait 10
 minutes (or whatever), then issue another CHAN command?)

Yeah, svdrp, sorry forgot to mention that.  You can issue CHAN without
a channel number to obtain the current channel.  An example could be
something like:
==
#!/bin/bash

eepg_chan=whatever
prev_chan=$(svdrpsend.pl chan |sed -n 2p |awk '{print $2}')

svdrpsend.pl CHAN $eepg_chan
svdrpsend.pl SCAN
sleep 10m
svdrpsend.pl CHAN $prev_chan
==

 Could I disable automatic EPG grabbing and manually tell it to grab
 EPG in my script?  (using SVDRP?)

The SCAN svdrp command forces a scan, but I don't know how disabling
EPG grabbing in VDR setup would affect that.  I would expect the
behavior of a _forced_ scan to scan regardless of any settings since
the point is to force it.

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Re: [vdr] Can VDR use one specific transponder for EPG information?

2011-04-17 Thread VDR User
On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Timothy D. Lenz tl...@vorgon.com wrote:
 Just a thought but you could set up a daily or weekly timer with a very low
 priority on the recording so it auto deletes it. I've never used the auto
 delete after set time because I never know how long it will be before I get
 back to watching the recording.

Are you sure the epg scanner is active if the device is recording?

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Re: [vdr] preventing vdr from using a device to record

2011-04-16 Thread VDR User
On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 7:28 AM,  syrius...@no-log.org wrote:
 I'm now running one vdr instance with 4 dvb devices.
 One device is crashing quite often and I haven't find a way to
 automatically detect when it's crashed. (vdr used to issues unknown
 picture type message in the past)

If you're not seeing anything useful to your VDR log to determine if
the card has crashed, you may want to look at dmesg to see if
something in there could be used.

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Re: [vdr] [Patch] Make RGYB buttons customizeable

2011-04-04 Thread VDR User
On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 2:34 AM, fnu v...@auktion.hostingkunde.de wrote:
 Hi there,

 to finish discussion if RGYB ist a standard or not or where does it come
 from:

Your theory that the RGYB color scheme is a worldwide standard with
only cheap obscure non-media remotes being 'non-compliant' has already
been thrown out the window.  I don't know why you think pasting a link
to an Italian website can somehow resurrect the dead theory.  Btw, no
link you ever paste will outweigh what color scheme people see on
their physical remotes.  If you want to argue about it further then
contact Panasonic, Sony, and your friends at Logitech to start with.

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Re: [vdr] [Patch] Make RGYB buttons customizeable

2011-04-04 Thread VDR User
On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 3:33 PM, fnu v...@auktion.hostingkunde.de wrote:
 ===
 Your theory that the RGYB color scheme is a worldwide standard with only 
 cheap obscure non-media remotes being 'non-compliant' has already been thrown 
 out the window.  I don't know why you think pasting a link to an Italian 
 website can somehow resurrect the dead theory.  Btw, no link you ever paste 
 will outweigh what color scheme people see on their physical remotes.  If you 
 want to argue about it further then contact Panasonic, Sony, and your friends 
 at Logitech to start with.
 ===

 Well, that's a claim.

 It's not just any italian URL, this is the main page of the inventor and 
 license holder for TOP Teletext. This is the company where all manufacturer 
 do pay their license fees to, if their TV set do provide this function. The 
 invention of T(able) O(f) P(ages) Teletext brought us the colored keys on TV 
 remotes 25 years ago, not surprisingly in the order R(ed) G(reen) Y(ellow) 
 B(lue).

 Fifteen years later, Klaus adopt these common keys and standardized this 
 order, RGYB, for his awesome and incredible solution VDR, as they are 
 anywhere available, except on some trashy ones ...

...shakes head...  Please refer to my previous post, then let's not
continue this foolishness on the VDR ml ok?  Ok.

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Re: [vdr] [Patch] Make RGYB buttons customizeable

2011-04-02 Thread VDR User
On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 4:40 AM, fnu v...@auktion.hostingkunde.de wrote:
 Regardless, users always have the option to patch the feature in if it 
 doesn't become a part of VDR's core.

 Here we go! Provide a patch, users can use or not w/o assuming to change 
 vdr-core.

 Like the majority of users, I do use remotes following kls's VDR standard 
 defined a century ago. I don't want to bothered w/ configurable colored keys, 
 it can be just another cause for malfunctions, mere you guys are not willing 
 to buy a remote which is compatible w/ VDR's standard. This is IMHO not a to 
 high expectation, because you also buy DVB devices which are compatible w/ 
 VDR ...

 If remotes would be some very expensive devices, I may follow your arguments, 
 but you guys do often buy the cheapest you can get and expect that core VDR 
 will changed to be usable with these sometimes pulpy devices, wereas also 
 compatible devices are available for the same price ...

You aren't doing yourself any favors by making all these silly
assumptions.  I mean this in the nicest way possible -- everything
quoted above is complete nonsense.  Nobody is ever giong to take you
seriously if you keep posting such rubbish.

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Re: [vdr] [Patch] Make RGYB buttons customizeable

2011-04-02 Thread VDR User
On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 2:33 AM, Rolf Ahrenberg rahre...@cc.hut.fi wrote:
 The RGYB color enumeration is defined in the video teletext standard and
 every TV/STB set implementing the teletext feature DOES use the mentioned
 color button order. I guess the teletext is used mainly in Europe, so there
 might be different conventions elsewhere, but the VDR is a STB for DVB
 standard that documents the teletext too.

I have two top end tv's, one Panasonic, one Sony.  Both support
teletext, neither have the color button scheme as RGYB.  I would guess
it's as you mentioned, maybe that scheme is commonly used in Europe
but it's simply not true that RGYB is some standard used across the
globe with only cheap obscure remotes not conforming to it.

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Re: [vdr] vdr - vdr-xine - xine-lib and vdpau and HD recordings

2011-04-01 Thread VDR User
I applied both your patches and skipping does seem to be improved
quite a bit.  Something still seems a little off however.

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Re: [vdr] [Patch] Make RGYB buttons customizeable

2011-04-01 Thread VDR User
On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 3:13 AM, fnu v...@auktion.hostingkunde.de wrote:
 The color order of the RGYB buttons is a common standard, defined for
 Teletext centuries ago. So, 99.999% of all remotes providing these keys do
 have this order.

That's definitely not true.  I have about 8 different remotes and at
least half don't use that button order.  In addition, not every remote
has color buttons 4 in a row.  Plenty of them make a square around
other buttons such as 'ok/enter' for example.

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Re: [vdr] [Patch] Make RGYB buttons customizeable

2011-04-01 Thread VDR User
On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 2:54 PM, fnu v...@auktion.hostingkunde.de wrote:
 vdr-user:
 That's definitely not true.  I have about 8 different remotes and at least 
 half don't use that button order.  In addition, not every remote has color 
 buttons 4 in a row.  Plenty of them make a square around other buttons such 
 as 'ok/enter' for example.

 Oliver Schinagl:
 I wasn't aware that the order of buttons was standarized on remotes

 ===

 Well, could be that not all remotes for each pinchy device might provide 
 color keys at all or in this order. But if they are somehow TV oriented, they 
 follow this order in a global manner, even the M$ ones, if they have colored 
 keys.

 You want an evidence? Just check out the universal remotes form the big three 
 manufactures, Philips, Logitech  One-for-All, if the devices do offer 
 colored keys, the order is RGYB, nothing left, nothing right, and you should 
 really ask yourself, why?

 And, the most important point, global standard or not, it has been defined as 
 standard in VDR a century ago, and this is a fact.

I'm not sure why you're trying to argue this.  There are users in this
thread (including myself) that already own remote(s) that don't follow
this order.  Assuming they're all for some pinchy device is silly.
ALL of my remotes either came with dvb cards or sold as a media remote
-- all of which are 'oriented' for tv among other devices.

Also, you pointing out remote makers that follow the RGYB _scheme_
doesn't void the fact that plenty of remotes exist that don't.  It's
funny you use Logitech as one of your examples considering they make a
mixture of remotes that do and don't follow that button scheme.  That
goes against your claims, not suport them.

Ignoring remotes that don't follow the RGYB scheme doesn't make them
any less 'tv oriented' or go away.  I can't imagine it's much of a
leap to make the colored button position customizable and is probably
something that's better to have then not.  What good argument against
allowing the user to customize the layout according to their actual
remote button layout could there be?  None that I can think of.  I'd
guess Klaus will consider any patches submitted to him which don't
cause problems.  Regardless, users always have the option to patch the
feature in if it doesn't become a part of VDR's core.

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Re: [vdr] vdr - vdr-xine - xine-lib and vdpau and HD recordings

2011-03-31 Thread VDR User
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 8:27 AM, Joerg Riechardt j.riecha...@gmx.de wrote:
 Hi,
 I have a problem with skipping during a replay of a HD recording.
 Running xine --verbose=2 I see after pressing the yellow button (skip +60
 sec) lots of
 video_out: throwing away image with pts xxx because it's too old (diff :
 y)
 messages.
 This is for a few seconds or forever, depending on system load, and causes
 100% Cpu, and spoils recordings on my slow system. On faster systems you
 will hardly notice this.
 If I patch cDvbPlayer::SkipSeconds with
 -       readIndex = Index - 1; // Action() will first increment it!
 +       readIndex = Index; // Index - 1 causes problems in xine
 I no longer get those „throwing away image“ messages and the Cpu peak is
 only short and not that high.

 This happens also for starting a replay and for resuming replay after fast
 forward, but for those I have no vdr patch.

 I would very much appreciate if somebody with deeper knowledge of the
 interplay between vdr - vdr-xine - xine-lib would look into and comment
 on this.

Are you saying that when you press skip+/-, you get a delay before the
skip occurs?  If so, I experience this problem too.  Most of the time
when I press skip+/-, there's a 4-6 second pause before the skip
actually occurs.  Very aggravating to say the least.  The good news is
that Rnissl has this problem also so there's no need to try to
reproduce it -- he can already observe it locally.

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Re: [vdr] vdr - vdr-xine - xine-lib and vdpau and HD recordings

2011-03-31 Thread VDR User
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 12:01 PM, Joerg Riechardt j.riecha...@gmx.de wrote:
 Are you saying that when you press skip+/-, you get a delay before the
 skip occurs?

 Well, before stable replay starts.
 You could run xine verbose and post your log in order to know if we are
 talking about the same thing, I am not sure from your description.

Maybe I misunderstoof you.  I don't have a problem playing recordings,
only when using skip+/-.

  If so, I experience this problem too.  Most of the time
 when I press skip+/-, there's a 4-6 second pause before the skip
 actually occurs.  Very aggravating to say the least.  The good news is
 that Rnissl has this problem also

 How do you know? Are you in contact with him?

Yes.  However, I'm referring to the problem I described.  I guess you
may have a separate problem.

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Re: [vdr] [ANNOUNCE] VDR developer version 1.7.17

2011-03-28 Thread VDR User
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 2:24 AM, Tim rollercoas...@reel-multimedia.com wrote:
  - Fixed detecting frames on channels that broadcast with 50 or 60 fps.

 I just made a recording from arte HD with VDR 1.7.17 and everything
 worked fine. It played correctly (on a TT-S2 6400 prototype), the current
 and total times displayed by the progress display were correct and I was
 able to place and move an editing mark with the picture getting updated
 just fine.

 For me the frame detection works fine, but still the wrong framerate is 
 written
 to the info file (always F 25 is written there).
 Maybe some nasty patch is breaking this for me, but i don't find it. Is this
 really working correct for you?
 Can you give me a hint where the information is transferred from the
 cFrameDetector to cRecordingInfo?

I'll jump in and say that all my new HD recordings have the correct
framerate (mixture of 59.94 and 29.97) in their relative info files.
 I suspect some patch you're using is breaking this and you've
mentioned.  The good news is it should be pretty easy to figure out
which one.

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Re: [vdr] [ANNOUNCE] naludump patch 0.1

2011-03-23 Thread VDR User
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 2:37 PM, Udo Richter udo_rich...@gmx.de wrote:
 One question here, if I shrink already existing recordings with the
 command line tool, is it necessary to delete the index?

 The command line tool just processes a single .ts file. You have to
 process each file of the recording, and you have to regenerate (delete)
 the index file.

I was interested to see how your patch works but after running the
command line tool on a few recordings, none of them shrunk so I can
only assume that my provider doesn't include such fill data.  I like
the idea however and appreciate your time in developing it.

 There's a sample script at VDR Portal that automates this.

It may be wise to post that script along with your next patch update.
There are a lot of NA users who have trouble trying (and consequently
stop) to navigate german-based vdr portal.

Best regards

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Re: [vdr] rotor-ng

2011-03-22 Thread VDR User
On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 5:41 AM, Morfsta morf...@gmail.com wrote:
 At the moment you need to manually edit the file to set the positions
 up. A later version might include assigning or changing the position
 numbers directly in the plugin interface.

 I should at this point thank Luca Olivetti for all his work on the
 actuator plugin. I'm no developer, so wouldn't have been able to get
 this far without all the work he did on the scan interface etc. I've
 merely hacked his work to modify it to work with disecq 1.1 and fixed
 some issues with DVBS2 tuning. Ideally, we should probably work
 together to unify the two plugins so you can select Actuator / Disecq
 / GOTOX as the motor type attached and have a totally new plugin
 probably called Dish or something similar.

I don't use a actuator/rotor myself but I know people who do and are
really looking forward to your plugin.  I think a good stable
'vdr-movedish' plugin has been needed for quite some time.  It almost
seems like a plugin you'd expect to come with vanilla VDR since it
provides such a basic function.

Anyways, thanks for your work.

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Re: [vdr] [ANNOUNCE] VDR developer version 1.7.17

2011-03-14 Thread VDR User
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 12:21 AM, Simon Baxter linu...@nzbaxters.com wrote:
 Just switched from vdr-1.7.16 to vdr-1.7.17 and am getting these error
 messages.

 Mar 14 20:08:51 freddy vdr: [10728] cVideoRepacker: switching to MPEG1/2
 mode
 Mar 14 20:08:51 freddy vdr: [10728] cVideoRepacker: operating in MPEG1/2
 mode

Those aren't error messages, they're just information messages from vdr-xine.

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Re: [vdr] How's the 24 bit OSD VDR coming?

2011-03-08 Thread VDR User
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Udo Richter udo_rich...@gmx.de wrote:
 Don't get too excited about the TrueColor OSD, though.
 What comes with VDR is only the basic OSD platform that
 allows plugins to use full screen 32 bit ARGB color,
 with alpha blendable pixmaps and such.

 Do you have any numbers on OSD speed for, lets say, some prototype
 output device you may have at hand?

 An old-style 720x576x8 display has just 400k size, HD RGB32 however has
 6Mb. This could limit display update speed notably for animations or
 video overlays using OSD. Would be nice to know how much is possible.

With things like VDPAU, I would imagine some very cool things are
possible and considering how many people are using VDPAU with VDR now,
hopefully we'll get a good pool of skinners coming up with some great
options to choose from.

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Re: [vdr] startup problems

2011-02-17 Thread VDR User
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 7:09 AM, Jouni Karvo jouni.ka...@iki.fi wrote:
 I don't know where to start.  Is this a vdr, lirc or a driver problem, or
 perhaps initscript order problem?  Should I try the 2.6.38-rc5, or would
 that be just looking for trouble?

 Check the VDR log and xine log.  If VDR has a problem starting, you
 should be able to find out why in it's log.  And if it's xine related,
 you then check the xine log..  And so on..  Just follow the crumbs
 until you find the problem.  Shouldn't be too hard.

 :)

 That was done already: vdr -l 3, xine --verbose=2; there is no hint on
 syslog or console output - except this, on the main thread:

And what happens when you take the watchdog out of the equation?  Can
you manually start VDR at will without any problems?

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Re: [vdr] Email problem - who is the postmaster?

2011-02-16 Thread VDR User
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 8:25 AM, Stefan Taferner tafer...@kde.org wrote:
 Am Mittwoch, 16. Februar 2011, um 16:05:44 schrieb Paul Menzel:
 Dear Scott,

 Am Montag, den 14.02.2011, 19:54 + schrieb Scott Waye:
  What is the postmaster email address for this list?

 sorry, I do not know.

  I get some of the messages 7 times 20 minutes apart.

 I do not experience this problem.

 No problem here too. I honestly think the problem is on Scott's end.

I've been here for years and never had that problem either.  I would
make sure your issues aren't being caused locally first.

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Re: [vdr] startup problems

2011-02-16 Thread VDR User
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 6:48 AM, Jouni Karvo jouni.ka...@iki.fi wrote:
 I don't know where to start.  Is this a vdr, lirc or a driver problem, or
 perhaps initscript order problem?  Should I try the 2.6.38-rc5, or would
 that be just looking for trouble?

Check the VDR log and xine log.  If VDR has a problem starting, you
should be able to find out why in it's log.  And if it's xine related,
you then check the xine log..  And so on..  Just follow the crumbs
until you find the problem.  Shouldn't be too hard.

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Re: [vdr] VDR 1.7.16 FF card crashes

2011-02-10 Thread VDR User
On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 5:13 AM,  syrius...@no-log.org wrote:
 I've got a couple FF cards that work fine, although I've used them as
 budget cards ever since I moved to a VDPAU setup.

 Hi,

 do you mean you have modified your ff card as explained on
 http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/DVB_TT_Budget_Patch ?

No, my FF cards are unmodified.  I mean that I'm not using the FF
aspect -- I don't use the onboard decoder or tv output.  I switched to
VDPAU for decoding (back when VDPAU was developed against the
xine-lib-1.1 tree), and the video cards output obviously.  This was
long before VDR-1.7.16 and FF support moved into a plugin
(dvbsddevice in VDR-1.7.11).

 Do you use to have arm crashes or/and unknown picture type errors
 before ?

I experienced arm crashes a very long time ago (years) and it was due
to firmware, but since it was fixed there hasn't been any.  I've never
got an unknown picture type error.

 I have also considered modifying my ff card but i'm not sure if it
 will fix my issues.

 Any advice or feedback on that matter would really be helpful.

Your card should work as is with no modifications necessary.  My only
advice is that you use the current firmware and driver.  Maybe there's
a bug in the dvbsddevice plugin?  That's the only thing I can think of
since there's no doubt FF cards work fine with VDR-1.7.16 when used as
budget cards.

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Re: [vdr] VDR 1.7.16 FF card crashes

2011-02-09 Thread VDR User
I've got a couple FF cards that work fine, although I've used them as
budget cards ever since I moved to a VDPAU setup.

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Re: [vdr] Detecting recording errors

2011-02-09 Thread VDR User
On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 4:59 PM, Tobias Grimm listacco...@e-tobi.net wrote:
 Is there a patch/plugin/tool/whatever which would make VDR somehow tag
 recordings where there were stream-error when recording?

 It shouldn't be too hard to scan a *.ts-File for discontinuity errors,
 but I would like to make VDR detect this while recording and somehow set
 a flag, so I can see if a recording might have errors.

 No idea anyone?

 What else besides continuity errors could be checked, to see if a TS
 recording has errors?

There are at least a few tools for Windows that can do that.  If you
have a Windows box, you may want to look into using that for this.

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Re: [vdr] skip +/- 60 sec suggestion.

2011-02-06 Thread VDR User
On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 9:17 AM, Mario Schulz dr...@arcor.de wrote:
 Am 06.02.2011 11:43, schrieb Torgeir Veimo:
 When using the skip forward / backward buttons, eg to jump through the
 ads, it would be convenient if the skip backward button skipped
 backwards 30 seconds instead of 60, on the first press. Subsequent
 skip backwards would skip 60 seconds as normal.

 This would make it easier to narrow down the start of a program after
 skipping ads.


 Binary search has already been patched into some distributions with the
 Liemikuutio-patch.

 Cf. http://www.saunalahti.fi/~rahrenbe/vdr/patches/index.php

IIRC, mythtv had a feature built-in that skips ads automagically.
Maybe a plugin could be written for VDR which provides the same
function.  Would be very cool and resolve the problem with seeking
h264 recordings where the still frame will remain unchanged for
several seconds and by the time it does change, its seeked several
minutes.  So with h264 ffw/rew you either seek no where or too far.
It's pretty bad unfortunately.

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Re: [vdr] skip +/- 60 sec suggestion.

2011-02-06 Thread VDR User
On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 12:16 PM, Theunis Potgieter
theunis.potgie...@gmail.com wrote:
 IIRC, mythtv had a feature built-in that skips ads automagically.
 Maybe a plugin could be written for VDR which provides the same
 function.  Would be very cool and resolve the problem with seeking
 h264 recordings where the still frame will remain unchanged for
 several seconds and by the time it does change, its seeked several
 minutes.  So with h264 ffw/rew you either seek no where or too far.
 It's pretty bad unfortunately.

 There is a package called noad for vdr which makes the marks on where
 the adverts start/stop. you just need to press skip to jump to the
 next mark while playing or you can enable it in vdr to automatically
 jump. This is of course a patch that enables this feature.

I'll gladly give it a try but the only url I found for noad just goes
to some apache page.  Do you have a current url or even hg/git
address?

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[vdr] Problem with VDR h264 ffw/rew (using VDR-1.7.16)?

2011-01-28 Thread VDR User
When fast forwarding or rewind h264 VDR recordings, the still frames
update very slowly.  Often times I've seeked several minutes in a
recording before the still frame updates and this is much farther then
I intended.  This doesn't happen with mpeg2 recordings at all.  The
still frames update very often with those making seeking to the right
spot no no problem.  Is this a flaw in how VDR seeks h264 or would it
be an issue in xine-lib or vdr-xine?  This seems worthwhile to address
since the still frames are the only reference a user has to tell how
far he's seeked in a recording.

Can someone please shed light on how to fix this?

Thanks.

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Re: [vdr] Remote receiver options...

2011-01-25 Thread VDR User
MCE usb remote is a good choice or you could build your own very
easily using an FTDI component and an IR receiver.  In either case it
will cost you about $25 or less.

Btw, I actually use a couple ION boxes for VDR.  I don't use a
server/client setup however because from what I understand it just
isn't mature enough.  I would like full independent osd's on each
client, epg is populated by server and shared with clients, and good
handling of timers.  And I don't want to have to run a bunch of
plugins or extra junk to make it work.  If I wanted a slapped together
solution out of whatever was laying around, I'd just run mythtv but
that's not what I'm looking for.

Come to think of it, I wonder how the new OSD system will factor into
having multiple clients, or if that aspect is being considered at all.
 Probably not.  But that's talk for another thread anyways I think.

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Re: [vdr] Request for rotor/actuator support integration to vdr

2011-01-22 Thread VDR User
I could be wrong about this but it seems I remember this subject
coming up some time ago and Klaus mentioning rotor support is on his
todo list.  My apologies if I've got that backwards.

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Re: [vdr] Request for rotor/actuator support integration to vdr

2011-01-22 Thread VDR User
On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 10:32 PM, Timothy D. Lenz tl...@vorgon.com wrote:
 That would be nice, I thought he said he wasn't interested in doing it
 because of lack of interest. I tried to get the subject going again because
 there are people who would want it, but it seems most of those that would
 use it are not programmers and rely on others to write it. There are also a
 lot of people who use vdr that are not on the list. So it's up to use few
 to speak loud :)

You couldn't be more right about there being a lot of VDR users who
don't make use of the mailing list.  I know a large number myself and
have tried to encourage them to participate here.  It's hard for
developers to really identify the needs/wants when people don't speak
up.  I've found the mailing list to be very useful and helpful, along
with pretty much every developer I've contacted about various VDR
related things.  I wish more people would speak up, especially the NA
VDR users -- there are tons of them but you'd never know it if you
only read the mailing list.

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Re: [vdr] [ANNOUNCE] naludump 0.0.1

2011-01-21 Thread VDR User
On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 1:29 PM, Udo Richter udo_rich...@gmx.de wrote:
 Hi list,

 This is the test version 0.0.1 of my h.264 nalu fill data removal tool.

 The tool deletes NALU fill data from h.264 streams embedded into TS
 files, like VDR recordings. The overall file structure isn't modified,
 only complete TS packets of NALU fill data are removed. On HD TV
 channels that use fixed video bandwidth, this can save 40-60% file size
 without loosing any data.

I tried this on 3 different HD h264 recordings from 3 different
channels.  In all cases no packets were dropped.  However, I don't
believe my provider wastes bandwidth with fill data so that would
explain it.

Best regards,
Derek

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Re: [vdr] Deinterlace video (was: Replacing aging VDR for DVB-S2)

2011-01-19 Thread VDR User
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 5:47 AM, Tony Houghton h...@realh.co.uk wrote:
 I thought there was supposed to be a flag in MPEG meta data which
 indicates whether pairs of fields are interlaced or progressive so
 decoders can determine how to combine them without doing any complicated
 picture analysis. Are broadcasters not using the flag properly, or xine
 not reading it? xine-ui's preferences dialog has an option to disable
 interlacing for progressive material, have you set that in whichever
 front-end you're using?

There is.  Unfortunately I can't begin to count the number of times
I've seen the flag set incorrectly, essentially making it useless.

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Re: [vdr] Replacing aging VDR for DVB-S2

2011-01-16 Thread VDR User
On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 6:00 AM, Tony Houghton h...@realh.co.uk wrote:
 I also/mainly mean more economical in power consumption and ease of
 installation and cooling. Most cheap GT220s have fans (most likely cheap
  noisy ones) so I wouldn't want one of them in my HTPC. A fanless one
 might overheat being packed in closely with my DVB cards. But many
 motherboards already have integrated NVidia chipsets with HDMI,
 including audio, and basic VDPAU functionality. Mine is an 8200 and I
 know there's also been a lot of interest in Ion systems for HTPCs, so I
 think finding some way of getting these systems to display 1080i nicely
 should be a good move.

It's a bad assumption to say lesser expensive gt220 cards have cheap
and noisy fans.  It's simply not true.  It's funny you mention ion as
well.  I have both ion and ion2 systems as well.  One I'm using as a
full time htpc, the other is a test box at the moment.  And they do
1080i just fine.  The ion1 box can't do temporal-spatial on 1080i but
it does temporal just fine.  I'm very satisfies with the very low
power and no noise from the ion's.

Maybe a better idea is to not assume anything at all, but rather
actually look up real life data or just buy one and see for yourself
(as I did).  There's no reason to take guesses about any of this
stuff, plenty of users have posts their results and specs at various
forums.  A good place to start would be nvnews.net and read the thread
VDPAU testing tool.

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Re: [vdr] Replacing aging VDR for DVB-S2

2011-01-16 Thread VDR User
On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 10:22 AM, Tony Houghton h...@realh.co.uk wrote:
 I've bought many graphics cards over the years and every time one came
 with a fan it's been noisy and I've replaced it with an aftermarket
 cooler with a bigger heatsink, and either a bigger fan(s) or no fan.

 People have different standards of noisy. If everyone was as demanding
 as me they wouldn't have considered using an XBox as a media player!

Indeed they do.  I'm particular about noise as I use htpc's with my
televisions.  I don't want to watch something and have to listen to a
fan.  If I can barely hear a fan with the tv off, that is acceptable
but it must be very low noise.

 The pictures of these cards are enough for me, I'm sticking to my
 assumption that if I bought a GT220 I'd have to budget for either
 getting a specialist model with silent cooler, or replacing the cooler
 myself.

No, pictures aren't enough.  That's as silly as saying you can look at
a car and somehow magically know how it handles while driving.  Sorry,
doesn't cut it.

 Maybe a better idea is to not assume anything at all, but rather
 actually look up real life data or just buy one and see for yourself
 (as I did).  There's no reason to take guesses about any of this
 stuff, plenty of users have posts their results and specs at various
 forums.  A good place to start would be nvnews.net and read the thread
 VDPAU testing tool.

 The results don't give the right information to determine how well a
 card can handle 1080i.

You apparently don't know the results come from analyzing actual
playback of actual samples of actual content.  Yes, the data tells you
exactly what kind of performance you can expect since it's generated
from actual use cases.  Again, stop assuming everything and turning
your nose up at first-hand experience.  I've ran those tests myself,
obviously know what deinterlacers I'm using, and have watched plenty
of content seeing the result with my own eyes from the hardware we're
talking about.  Additionally I've done the same with various hardware
configurations..  What you're telling people simply doesn't agree with
reality.

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Re: [vdr] Replacing aging VDR for DVB-S2

2011-01-16 Thread VDR User
On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 9:42 AM, Eric Valette eric.vale...@free.fr wrote:
 BTW: is temporal-spatial available on ion2 and do you see improvement? I
 think I read somewhere than the bus between the N10 and the ion2 has not the
 bandwidth to do 1080? Just curious

The ion2 is currently being used for testing.  It actually can do just
over 60 fields temporal-spatial on 1080i with the latest stable driver
260.19.29.  IIRC previous driver versions had some issues there.

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Re: [vdr] Replacing aging VDR for DVB-S2

2011-01-15 Thread VDR User
On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 1:09 PM, Goga777 goga...@bk.ru wrote:
 In general, get a gt220, as it has built in audio hardware, so that
 you should get audio without clock drift relative to the hdmi output.
 It is also powerfull enough to do temporal spatial deinterlacing on
 1080i material.

 what do you think about

 NVIDIA's GeForce GT 430
 http://www.anandtech.com/show/3973/nvidias-geforce-gt-430

 seems it's the best choice for vdr/htpc

 - more cold than gt220
 - more powerfull
 - HDMI 1.4,
 - 3D over HDMI
 - Ethernet channel
 - Audio return channel
 - 4k × 2k Resolution Support

It's a nice card but I'm not sure why you think it's the best choice
for VDR/htpc.  It's not going to give you any better image quality on
HD content then you get from a gt220 at half the price.  I don't see
any advantage for most users in spending the extra money for one.

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Re: [vdr] Replacing aging VDR for DVB-S2

2011-01-15 Thread VDR User
On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Tony Houghton h...@realh.co.uk wrote:
 I wonder whether it might be possible to use a more eonomical card which
 is only powerful enough to decode 1080i without deinterlacing it and
 take advantage of the abundant CPU power most people have nowadays to
 perform software deinterlacing. It may not be possible to have something
 as sophisticated as NVidia's temporal + spatial, but some of the
 existing software filters should scale up to HD without overloading the
 CPU seeing as it wouldn't be doing the decoding too.

Well, you can get a gt220 for around $40USD which does full rate
temporal-spatial 1080i and allows you to use it with an old slow cpu's
that are dirt cheap if you don't already have one collecting dust in
your basement.  Not sure how much more economical you can get aside of
free.

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Re: [vdr] Developer versions

2011-01-14 Thread VDR User
On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 1:40 PM, Klaus Schmidinger
klaus.schmidin...@tvdr.de wrote:
 AIUI VDR generates the OSD as a bitmap no matter which output plugin is
 used and the player only has the choice of how to overlay it on the
 video. So getting it rendered by VDPAU would be easy enough, but to
 upgrade it to HD would probably need some rewriting/patching in core
 VDR, not just a plugin. I think the ability to antialias the text would
 be the biggest improvement, it often looks jagged.

 The next developer version of VDR will contain full True-Color OSD support.
 I'm in the final stages of implementing all that's necessary to do that,
 like background image, transparent and movable overlayed pixmaps and
 the like.

Wow, wasn't expecting that!  Did you get a new tv or something?  ;)

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Re: [vdr] Developer versions

2011-01-13 Thread VDR User
I agree, the less layer upon layer upon layer, the better.  I also
want to point out that there are a large number of users who have
dedicated VDR boxes connected directly to tv's in an htpc environment,
using only a remote control to navigate the menus and ssh for box
maintenance.  Not computer monitors, using VDR in a window in a
desktop environment.  The second you've required the user to have a
full blown desktop, you've entered the realm of poor design.  The
ideal situation would be to have minimal requirements/dependencies and
no bloat.

Additionally, an OSD that takes advantage of vdpau as well so you not
only get full HDTV, but also a full high resolution/high color OSD
with low hardware requirements  cost to the user to go along with it.
 I know the OSD has been a point of debate but the truth is people do
spend a lot of time in the OSD and because of that, there's no reason
that can't be an enjoyable user experience.  Chalking it up as mere
eye candy completely disregards that fact.  It's no different to the
reason why people put nice stereos in their car... to have a better
experience while using it.  Given the choice between a nice Benz or a
base model Kia...how many people would actually choose the Kia?  Not
many, so lets not pretend otherwise.

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Re: [vdr] Developer versions

2011-01-12 Thread VDR User
On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Tony Houghton h...@realh.co.uk wrote:
 1. A stream server plugin.
 2. An integrated player plugin based on xine.
 3. Standalone xine-based players for connecting to the server.

 I propose using 1, ignoring 2 (you can disable it with CLI options, I do
 this anyway because it's more convenient for me to use a client-server
 setup) and replacing 3 with something based on ffmpeg and/or gstreamer.

 From xineliboutput's README:

 : (xine-lib is not required for server in network-only usage)

 network usage can include localhost.

And you get VDR's full osd doing this?

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Re: [vdr] Developer versions

2011-01-12 Thread VDR User
On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Tony Houghton h...@realh.co.uk wrote:
 1. A stream server plugin.
 2. An integrated player plugin based on xine.
 3. Standalone xine-based players for connecting to the server.

 I propose using 1, ignoring 2 (you can disable it with CLI options, I do
 this anyway because it's more convenient for me to use a client-server
 setup) and replacing 3 with something based on ffmpeg and/or gstreamer.

  From xineliboutput's README:

 : (xine-lib is not required for server in network-only usage)

 network usage can include localhost.

 And you get VDR's full osd doing this?

 Yes, if you use a libxine-based player which supports it (the support is
 now in libxine). So to replace xine with something else someone needs to
 work out how xineliboutput serves up the OSD and write something to read
 it. If it's embedded as private data packets or whatever in the TS I
 think it should be possible to hook into ffmpeg's or gstreamer's
 demuxers to get access to it.

So there's no vdr output plugin option available that uses ffmpeg for
vdpau decoding and also provides the user with VDR's osd.

Hopefully someone capable of writing an output plugin will take
interest after reading all the recent posts on the subject.

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