Re: Ipad

[Pete]

A I see you're not alone Jules with this issue, lots of Google hits on this 
topic "ipad timer volume low". Have a read maybe something here will work for 
you.

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/250088140

Regards

Pete

> On 16 Dec 2019, at 5:06 pm, Susan Hastings  wrote:
> 
> Hi, have you tried changing which sound you want to play? When choosing a new 
> sound can you hear it play? Cheers, Susan
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On 16 Dec 2019, at 3:45 pm, Juliet Kitson  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hello All
>> I have a iPad mid 2013 all of a sudden the alarm when a timer has finished 
>> does not sound anymore but all other alerts and sounds work OK. any ideas 
>> welcome.
>> Regards Bill & Juliet
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Re: Iphone

[Pete]

Ah yes Ronnie, thanks for reminding the group, I omitted to mention that always 
on power yes is important. Usually I am so anal about keeping it fully charged 
that rarely would I go below 70-80% and so inherently safe but recommendation 
at all times anyway to keep on power. 

Regards

Pete

> On 12 Dec 2019, at 3:00 pm, Ronni Brown  wrote:
> 
> Like you Peter, I prefer to update ‘Over The Air’ OTA...  but always have my 
> iPhone connected to power when installing an update. 
> Can make a real mess if the iPhone runs out of charge before the update fully 
> completes.
> 
> Kind Regards,
> Ronni
> 
>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
> 
> 
>> On 12 Dec 2019, at 11:27 am, Peter Crisp  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Steve, by contrast I always use the 'Over The Air' OTA method. BUT, I do 
>> perform a backup and Synch of the iphone to iTunes before any ios updates. I 
>> have had very good (100% in fact reliability) of this method for many years 
>> - not sure how long the OTA updates have been deployed but some years for 
>> sure.  
>> 
>> Whilst the iTunes (connected to Mac method) was reliable, I found it very 
>> slow and hence why I went to using the OTA.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Kind Regards
>> 
>> 
>> Peter Crisp
>> 
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From:
>> wamug@wamug.org.au
>> 
>> To:
>> "WAMUG Mailing List" 
>> Cc:
>> 
>> Sent:
>> Wed, 11 Dec 2019 20:01:40 +0800
>> Subject:
>> Re: Iphone
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Juliet.
>> I always plug my iPhone into my iMac to perform updates.
>> Then I open Apple Music ( formerly iTunes).
>> 
>> Click on the iPhone icon in the left menu and go ahead with update.
>> This in my opinion is the crucial way to go about this.
>> 
>> Firstly it always first performs a backup to my iMac first.
>> 
>> Secondly (as has happened in the past) the upgrade can be performed without 
>> being hindered by the capacity of your iPhone storage. If the upgrade is 
>> larger than your iPhone storage it is not able to perform the upgrade 
>> directly on the iPhone.
>> 
>> And sometimes my iPhone does not indicate during the upgrade that it 
>> requires my passcode to continue.
>> The iPhone screen simply sits and waits (and I am left wondering).
>> So I need to enter my passcode on my iPhone to continue.
>> Sometimes you need to walk away for a while and when you return you will 
>> have a message indicating what is required next.
>> Never let impatience get the better of you.
>> Stop … meditate … be very buhdist … relax …. take your time 
>> 
>> On 11 Dec 2019, at 7:16 pm, Juliet Kitson  wrote:
>> 
>> Ok 
>> I have an iPhone 5s with software 10.2
>> I decided to update software to version 12.---
>> When update had finished a message appeared on screen of iMac running 
>> Majove,\.
>> The message was "Allow this computer to access your iPhone by responding on 
>> the Phone.
>> No message appeared on Phone screen.
>> All that was on the screen was the apple logo and a white under the logo.
>> When noting changed after an hour I decided to shut down the phone, but no 
>> amount of pushing the home button or the turn off button hard any effect,
>> Maybe somebody can give me some advice.
>> regards Bill & Juliet
>> 
>>> On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 10:02 PM Stephen Chape  wrote:
>>> Struth Juliet.
>>> I cannot understand your request.
>>> Please slow down and use English in small sentences.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 11 Dec 2019, at 1:51 pm, Juliet Kitson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> G'day All
>>> I have an iPhone 5S which I just updated software to 12. something at then 
>>> end it  requested I respond on phone to allow access by my computer after 
>>> an hour nothing happened so I disconnected now I can't even switch my phone 
>>> of any suggestions.Updated form 10.2.
>>> regards Bill & Juliet
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Iphone

[Pete]

Let me clarify "at all times whilst doing OTA update, keep on power supply".

Regards

Pete

> On 12 Dec 2019, at 4:19 pm, Pete  wrote:
> 
> Ah yes Ronnie, thanks for reminding the group, I omitted to mention that 
> always on power yes is important. Usually I am so anal about keeping it fully 
> charged that rarely would I go below 70-80% and so inherently safe but 
> recommendation at all times anyway to keep on power. 
> 
> Regards
> 
> Pete
> 
>> On 12 Dec 2019, at 3:00 pm, Ronni Brown  wrote:
>> 
>> Like you Peter, I prefer to update ‘Over The Air’ OTA...  but always have my 
>> iPhone connected to power when installing an update. 
>> Can make a real mess if the iPhone runs out of charge before the update 
>> fully completes.
>> 
>> Kind Regards,
>> Ronni
>> 
>>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 12 Dec 2019, at 11:27 am, Peter Crisp  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Steve, by contrast I always use the 'Over The Air' OTA method. BUT, I 
>>> do perform a backup and Synch of the iphone to iTunes before any ios 
>>> updates. I have had very good (100% in fact reliability) of this method for 
>>> many years - not sure how long the OTA updates have been deployed but some 
>>> years for sure.  
>>> 
>>> Whilst the iTunes (connected to Mac method) was reliable, I found it very 
>>> slow and hence why I went to using the OTA.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Kind Regards
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Peter Crisp
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From:
>>> wamug@wamug.org.au
>>> 
>>> To:
>>> "WAMUG Mailing List" 
>>> Cc:
>>> 
>>> Sent:
>>> Wed, 11 Dec 2019 20:01:40 +0800
>>> Subject:
>>> Re: Iphone
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi Juliet.
>>> I always plug my iPhone into my iMac to perform updates.
>>> Then I open Apple Music ( formerly iTunes).
>>> 
>>> Click on the iPhone icon in the left menu and go ahead with update.
>>> This in my opinion is the crucial way to go about this.
>>> 
>>> Firstly it always first performs a backup to my iMac first.
>>> 
>>> Secondly (as has happened in the past) the upgrade can be performed without 
>>> being hindered by the capacity of your iPhone storage. If the upgrade is 
>>> larger than your iPhone storage it is not able to perform the upgrade 
>>> directly on the iPhone.
>>> 
>>> And sometimes my iPhone does not indicate during the upgrade that it 
>>> requires my passcode to continue.
>>> The iPhone screen simply sits and waits (and I am left wondering).
>>> So I need to enter my passcode on my iPhone to continue.
>>> Sometimes you need to walk away for a while and when you return you will 
>>> have a message indicating what is required next.
>>> Never let impatience get the better of you.
>>> Stop … meditate … be very buhdist … relax …. take your time 
>>> 
>>> On 11 Dec 2019, at 7:16 pm, Juliet Kitson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ok 
>>> I have an iPhone 5s with software 10.2
>>> I decided to update software to version 12.---
>>> When update had finished a message appeared on screen of iMac running 
>>> Majove,\.
>>> The message was "Allow this computer to access your iPhone by responding on 
>>> the Phone.
>>> No message appeared on Phone screen.
>>> All that was on the screen was the apple logo and a white under the logo.
>>> When noting changed after an hour I decided to shut down the phone, but no 
>>> amount of pushing the home button or the turn off button hard any effect,
>>> Maybe somebody can give me some advice.
>>> regards Bill & Juliet
>>> 
>>>> On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 10:02 PM Stephen Chape  wrote:
>>>> Struth Juliet.
>>>> I cannot understand your request.
>>>> Please slow down and use English in small sentences.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 11 Dec 2019, at 1:51 pm, Juliet Kitson  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> G'day All
>>>> I have an iPhone 5S which I just updated software to 12. something at then 
>>>> end it  requested I respond on phone to allow access by my computer after 
>>>> an hour nothing happened so I disconnected now I can't even switch my 
>>>> phone of any suggestions.Updated form 10.2.
>>>> regards Bill & Juliet
>>>&g

Re: Downloading photos from iPhone to Photos on iMac ?

[Pete]

Hi Ronni and others, I too am resisting the move to Catalina until a couple of 
dot updates and the noted issues by those here and elsewhere have quietened 
down. Reading with interest what is going on though.

Regards

Pete

> On 24 Oct 2019, at 9:51 pm, Ronni Brown  wrote:
> 
> Hi Stephen,
> I’m still running High Sierra on my Macs with no intention of upgrading.
> To give a suggestion to the problem you are experiencing, have a read at this 
> link.
> 
> https://www.apowersoft.com/transfer-iphone-photos-macos-catalina.html
> Best Ways to Transfer Photos from iPhone to MacOS Catalina
> 
> “Image Capture is a built-in tool made to import photos from iPhone to macOS 
> Catalina. Most of the Mac users are not aware about this tool. It allows you 
> to easily transfer photos from iPhone to Mac. Just search it thru the search 
> tool or you can find it in the “Other” folder in the Launchpad or in the 
> Applications folder.”
> 
> Kind Regards,
> Ronni
> 
>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
> 
> 
>> On 23 Oct 2019, at 10:48 am, Stephen Chape  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi folks.
>> 
>> Another Catalina conundrum ?
>> 
>> I open Photos on my iMac and then plug my iPhone into my iMac.
>> 
>> When I then click on “iPhone" in the sidebar, the photos on my iPhone are 
>> shown as greyed out squares.
>> This means that I am unable to see which photos I would like to download 
>> (because there is no thumbnail).
>> 
>> This was not the case before Catalina.
>> Any ideas please ?
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Stephen Chape
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: Time to Upgrade to Catalina Yet?

[Pete]

Ha ha Neil, that is funny. There is a lot to be said for the good old OSX. I 
still have my old black MacBook and Snow Leopard was and still is a memorable 
and enjoyable OS.

HYANS! 

Regards

Pete

> On 30 Nov 2019, at 11:22 pm, Neil Houghton  wrote:
> 
> Hehe,
>  
> Well I actually prefer Snow leopard as the most ‘sorted” OS that met all my 
> needs!  -   however ongoing compatibility constraints  meant that I galloped 
> into the future that was El Capitan!
>  
> No doubt, at some time, I will need to buy new hardware and upgrade to a more 
> “modern” OS – I used to look forward to this but now these “improvements’ 
> often seem less than  compelling!!
>  
>  
> YMMV
>  
>  
> Cheers
>  
>  
>  
> Neil
> --
> Neil R. Houghton
> Albany, Western Australia
> Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
> Email: n...@possumology.com
>  
>  
>  
>  
> From:  on behalf of Rod 
> Blitvich 
> Reply-To: WAMUG 
> Date: Saturday, 30 November 2019 at 17:02
> To: WAMUG 
> Subject: Time to Upgrade to Catalina Yet?
>  
> Hey Ronni, Daniel, Neil, Peter and other Gurus
> Is it time to upgrade to Catalina yet?
> Have you?
> ta
> Blitto
> 
> 
> 
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Re: membership

[Pete]

Hi Juliet, at the link right down at the start of this thread it will point you 
to the screen which provides the account details (BSB and Account number) for 
you to send your payment via your banking app on your phone or log into your 
bank account and "Pay Anyone" to the account detail provided. 

It is also important to include your name in the "Message" cell so that when 
the WAMUG admin see your deposit, they know who it is from and to set your 
account status to "paid" member. 

In addition you should Forward you remittance slip to the email address as 
directed on the page at the link.

Let us know if you have success doing this.

Regards

Pete

> On 31 Jan 2020, at 5:00 am, Juliet Kitson  wrote:
> 
> G'day Respondents
> Thanks for all the replies but no one has told me how to or where to pay my 
> membership.
> Regards Juliet
> 
>> On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 3:08 PM Peter Crisp  
>> wrote:
>> Just paid mine too! Thanks Juliet for the prompt.  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Kind Regards
>> 
>> 
>> Peter Crisp
>> 
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From:
>> wamug@wamug.org.au
>> 
>> To:
>> "WAMUG Mailing List" 
>> Cc:
>> 
>> Sent:
>> Thu, 30 Jan 2020 11:30:31 +0800
>> Subject:
>> Re: membership
>> 
>> 
>> Just paid mine too.
>> Thanks people !!
>> 
>> On 30 Jan 2020, at 10:31 am, Anthony (Tony) Francis  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi
>> Thanks to all concerned, I’ve just paid my Membership,yeah!!
>> 
>> Tony
>> 
>> On 30 Jan 2020, at 10:28 am, Peter Crisp  wrote:
>> 
>> That's a good point Stephen, I can't recall if I have actually paid or not 
>> for 2020. How does one find out if they're a paid up member? Been too much 
>> Shiraz since New Year to have any recollection of payment.
>> 
>> Might have to review my banking transactions tonight to see if WAMUG is 
>> there in January.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Kind Regards
>> 
>> 
>> Peter Crisp
>> 
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From:
>> wamug@wamug.org.au
>> 
>> To:
>> "WAMUG Mailing List" 
>> Cc:
>> 
>> Sent:
>> Thu, 30 Jan 2020 09:58:35 +0800
>> Subject:
>> Re: membership
>> 
>> 
>> Thank you Peter and Juliet.
>> I almost forgot membership fees are due in January each year.
>> Age I reckon ….. never forgot in the past !
>> 
>> On 30 Jan 2020, at 7:33 am, Peter Crisp  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Juliet, if you go to this link and follow the path should give you 
>> banking details for you to pay annual fees. Remember to provide your name in 
>> the notes for the admin team to tick off your payment against your name. $30 
>> a year for general membership.
>> 
>> https://www.wamug.org.au/join/
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Kind Regards
>> 
>> 
>> Peter Crisp
>> 
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From:
>> wamug@wamug.org.au
>> 
>> To:
>> "WAMUG Mailing List" 
>> Cc:
>> 
>> Sent:
>> Thu, 30 Jan 2020 08:28:56 +1100
>> Subject:
>> membership
>> 
>> 
>> Hello,
>> How do I renew my membership.
>> Regards Bill & Juliet
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Re: Problem "Big"

[Pete]

Hi Juliet, I assume you are restoring from a backup in an iMac or MacBook held 
backup file within iTunes? Alternative could be from an icloud backup, do tell 
which it is.

I think if I had a fail during restoration, street being sure it has failed by 
no activity, I would do a fresh erase of the destination new iPad and start 
over from the start of the restoration process.

You may also wish to do a fresh backup of the original source iPad and then try 
over.

Also I believe it is important that the new destination iPad already has the 
latest iOS installed BEFORE you start a back up to it, irrespective of the iOS 
of the source iPad which created the backup. Sometimes this means you have to 
set it up as a "new" iPad just to enable you to do the iOS update, then erase 
it, then do the restore from backup to it.

Let us know how you go. 

Pete

> On 19 Feb 2020, at 2:45 pm, Juliet Kitson  wrote:
> 
> I was restoring form old iPad to replacement iPad just about finished and 
> suddenly I am connected to Qantas  network what do  do.
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Re: Safari will not open specific webpage

[Pete]

Has always been trouble free for me too . I'm sure it has a lot more capability 
in it than I tap into as well. 

Pete

> On 14 Feb 2020, at 4:51 pm, Ronni Brown  wrote:
> 
> You’re very welcome Stephen, and yes I agree Safari is a nice clean user 
> friendly web browser with good privacy & security.
> 
> Kind Regards,
> Ronni
> 
>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
> 
> 
>> On 14 Feb 2020, at 4:18 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:
>> 
>> Ta Ronni.
>> I shall remain with Safari I reckon !!
>> Nice clean user friendly interface.
>> 
>>> On 14 Feb 2020, at 11:57 am, Ronda Brown  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Stephen,
>>> 
>>> NO, I haven’t tried or tested MS Edge. 
>>> We get a Mac version of MS Edge only because there’s a Mac version of 
>>> Google’s Chromium system.
>>> 
>>> My previous reply to Peter Curtis explains why I prefer Safari.
>>> 
>>> Kind regards,
>>> Ronni
>>> 
>>> 17" MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Intel-Core i7 
>>> 2.3GHz /16GB / 1TB 840 EVO SSD
>>> 
>>> macOS High Sierra 10.13.6
>>> 
>>>> On 13 Feb 2020, at 5:28 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> That is very impressive Ronni.
>>>> Have you tried MS Edge ?
>>>> And if so what are your thoughts ?
>>>> 
>>>>> On 13 Feb 2020, at 12:48 pm, Ronni Brown  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Stephen and Alan,
>>>>> 
>>>>> You might find this interesting from TechRadar
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://www.techradar.com/au/best/browser
>>>>> 
>>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>>> Ronni
>>>>> 
>>>>>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 13 Feb 2020, at 10:28 am, Alan Smith  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Stephen,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> An update - you'll love this.  Eventually spoke to Woolworths.  They 
>>>>>> recommend Google Chrome as the best browser to use as it is integrated 
>>>>>> with their shopping.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>> Alan
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 12 Feb 2020, at 9:16 am, Alan Smith  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Stephen,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> As someone from wamug (Neil?) said a few years ago: it’s too late - 
>>>>>>> Google already knows everything about you.  I think I was trying to 
>>>>>>> uninstall Google Chrome after using it for a few days.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Google is efficient for my web searches.  I used DuckDuckGo for some 
>>>>>>> time but became irritated by it.  Ditto for Bing.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> In general I use standard Apple apps, including Safari.  I have Firefox 
>>>>>>> installed on some devices as a backup browser.  Waiting for the new 
>>>>>>> Microsoft Edge to be released by the Australian Mac App Store for 
>>>>>>> possible use on the 2019 iMac.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>> Alan
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 11 Feb 2020, at 10:21 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi again Alan.
>>>>>>>> I suggest you dump Google ASAP.
>>>>>>>> That and Facebook will invade your world.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> My family have use DuckDuckGo for a couple of years.
>>>>>>>> On our Macs and our iPhones.
>>>>>>>> They do no tracking and do not record your data.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 11 Feb 2020, at 8:07 pm, Alan Smith  wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi Stephen,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> A reasonable deduction I think.  Windows for Woolies, Chrome for 
>>>>>>>>> Coles and Safari for Store Shoppers?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>> Alan
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>

Must run battery to 0%

[Pete]

Folks, I'm trying to get my family to understand it is not in any way a good 
practice to run a computer battery to 0% (or an iOS device) for battery health 
reasons. My 13yo believes that "it must be run to 0% because that is what Steve 
Jobs said to do"!

I can't see how allowing any device to run to flat in turn causing the OSX or 
iOS to quit in an uncontrolled fashion can be good in any way.

I understand that 'exercising' batteries to use full span might be a good thing 
but to 0% I don't get.

Any tips from others

Regards

Pete
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Re: A salutary lesson

[Pete]

I should add, the last time this happened with the garage remote, we had a guy 
at the house replacing one of the two garage panel lift doors (that I had 
reversed into I might add when I had inadvertently touched the remote in my 
pocket whilst reversing out) but, the remote was rolling around in the washer 
and the door was erratically going up and down part way! The guy would come 
inside and ask my wife "are you opening the garage door"? And she would say, 
"no, I thought you were"!!

Then it would all stop in unison with the washer having a soak period. 
Eventually after he'd long gone, she worked out

A bit of a laugh, yes multi grain is best.

Pete

> On 14 Mar 2020, at 1:36 pm, Daniel Kerr  wrote:
> 
> Make sure it’s multigrain natural rice, as that has more 
> electro-static-magnetic properties, so it works better :)
> 
>  Sent from my iPhone XS 
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>> On 14 Mar 2020, at 11:17 am, Peter Hinchliffe  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 13 Mar 2020, at 10:37 am, Philippe Chaperon  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Peter H & Peter C
>>> 
>>> The idea of the rice grains is something we should all remember well for 
>>> such an occasion. We were holidaying overseas and my son-in-law 
>>> accidentally   went into the swimming pool with his iPhone on him!! He 
>>> immediately dried the phone and then we put it in a jar and poured a packet 
>>> of rice on it. This worked after about 3 days!
>>> 
>>> Great Peter H that you have been able to save your device!
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> Yes, and I’ll be taking the tip about rice on board from now on too. 
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> 
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Re: Songs in Music on my iMac will not Sync to my iPhone 6s ?

[Pete]

Hi Stephen, have a read of this, see if it gives any tips.

https://support.apple.com/en-au/guide/mac-help/mchlbf6a1fab/mac



Regards

Pete

> On 22 Mar 2020, at 9:50 am, Stephen Chape  wrote:
> 
> Very erratic Apple Music behaviour though.
> My iMac and iPhone use the latest MacOS and iOS.
> 
> I downloaded to my iMac from Apple Music 2 days ago.
> Singer A = 2 Songs
> Singer B = 3 Songs
> Singer C = 2 Songs
> 
> Then I plugged my iPhone into my iMac and opened Music (on my iMac) to Sync.
> 
> Both Songs from Singer A arrived on my iPhone
> But nothing arrived on my iPhone from Singers B or C.
> 
> I took your advice yesterday and now have 2 of Singer B’s Songs on my iPhone 
> (not all 3)
> And both Songs from Singer C have arrived on my iPhone
> 
> Please don’t tell me this is normal for Apple.
> I am starting to think “The Dark Side” is involved. IE: Windows !!!
> 
> 
>> On 21 Mar 2020, at 4:16 pm, Peter Crisp  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Stephen, I think it may depend on what iOS you have on the iPhone but for 
>> some time now Apple Music has been a cloud based metadata library and if you 
>> download to your iMac from the Apple Music store then yo do indeed have it 
>> held on the iMac drive. But your library metadata is held in the Apple 
>> cloud, these songs will appear on your iPhone Music library but with a 
>> little cloud symbol next to them indicating they’re a part of your library 
>> now, but not yet downloaded. You can simply download to the iPhone (by 
>> tapping the cloud symbol) for local playing when out of service areas or on 
>> Aeroplane mode. Alternatively if you’re at home with infinite download data, 
>> just steam it. 
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> 
>> Pete
>> 
>>> On 21 Mar 2020, at 1:29 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi folks.
>>> 
>>> On my iMac I downloaded from Apple Music some songs from 3 additional 
>>> artists yesterday.
>>> 
>>> Then on my iMac in Apple Music I selected my iPhone in the left column 
>>> (iPhone plugged into iMac).
>>> Then (as usual) I clicked on “Sync Settings”
>>> Then I clicked on the “Music” tab.
>>> Then I selected “Artists”
>>> 
>>> Only 1 of the 3 artists appears in the list.
>>> The other 2 do not appear in the list, so I cannot tick them ready for 
>>> syncing ?
>>> 
>>> I have restarted my iMac and my iPhone but those 2 artists still do not 
>>> appear.
>>> Even though they both appear in my iMac Music list.
>>> 
>>> Any ideas very welcome please ?
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Stephen Chape
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Thanks for malware info all sorted.

[Pete]

I am pleased to hear that Peter! 


Regards

Pete

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Re: WAMUGMeeting Tue June 2

[Pete]

Hi Maureen, I presume there will be a calendar invite sent with a link to 
access the Zoom meeting some time today? 

Please confirm.

I'm looking forward to further discussing the topics noted below.

Regards

Pete

> On 1 Jun 2020, at 10:49 am, Graham Rabe  wrote:
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> Hi Maureen,
>  
> Could I please participate in tomorrow’s zoom meeting?
>  
> Thanks.
>  
> Cheers,
>  
> Graham Rabe
>  
>  
>  
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> Date: Sunday, 31 May 2020 at 9:13 pm
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> Subject: WAMUGMeeting Tue June 2
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> Hello fellow WAMUGgers,
>  
> This Tuesday, 2 June is the anniversary of the explorers, John and Alexander 
> Forrest, discovering Weld Springs, an oasis of clear, fresh water in central 
> Western Australia. Like the Forrest brothers who searched for new routes 
> through the outback so your WAMUG committee is seeking a better way to bring 
> bring our monthly meetings to “a computer near you.” 
>  
> This month’s general meeting will again be held via Zoom. We will start at 
> 7:30pm and run for 30 minutes.  A  Q will take place afterwards for those 
> who may have questions. 
>  
> In this meeting, all going well, we will be looking at Scannable, a scanning 
> app for iphone & ipad and some uses for Apples’s Notes. This is a share & 
> learn meeting, so if you also have a great scanning app or use Notes for 
> something  - well other than recording notes - we would love you to join in 
> the meeting and share your knowledge.
>  
> If you would like to participate please contact me. On Tuesday you will 
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Re: Members Meeting -

[Pete]

Hi Rosemary. This should get you there.

> In my haste, I forgot to include the meeting info:
> 
> Join Zoom Meeting at:
> https://us02web.zoom.us/j/83033171115?pwd=V1d1MTVwV2lETEtBcEhNNTA3MDMyUT09
> Meeting ID: 830 3317 1115
> Passcode: 368562


> On 4 Aug 2020, at 6:43 pm, Rosemary Spark  wrote:
> 
> Hi, I sent a message asking to be in the zoom hrbrid meeting to the group but 
> still haven't got a link for tonight's meeting. Is it coming soon?
> Cheers
> Rosemary Spark
> PO Box 781
> South Fremantle WA 6162 Australia
> Phone: + 61 ‭8 6397 6822‬
> Mobile: 0414268043
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sun, 2 Aug 2020 at 17:52,  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Fellow Wamuggers,
>>  
>> Our next member's meeting will take place this Tuesday August 4th. We will 
>> be attempting our first hybrid meeting. i.e. Combining a face to face 
>> meeting with Zoom
>> 
>> At this point, behalf of the committee, I want to say thank-you the intrepid 
>> Wamuggers who helped the committee explore the intricacies of Zoom and who 
>> showed patience and fortitude when things didn’t go too well, including 
>> screen freezes and boot-outs. The committee has purchased a license which 
>> should eliminate boot-outs and timing problems but does not take into 
>> account that omnipresent factor -‘Human Error.‘  As Johann Wolfgang von 
>> Goethe said, “By seeking and blundering we learn.” 
>> 
>> This month’s meeting will open at 7:30pm for a 7:40pm start. During the 
>> first half hour we will be looking at the new bits & pieces associated with 
>> the recent upgrades to Pages, Keynote & possibly Numbers. After that we will 
>> take any questions on topics or problems you might have. If you only want to 
>> stay for the presentation that’s OK. I know some of you are logging in from 
>> another time zone.
>>  
>> If you want to participate please indicate via the list and you will be sent 
>> your Meeting ID and Code.
>>  
>>  
>> Cheers,
>>  
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Re: Yes I can attend the meeting

[Pete]

Thanks Maureen, I'm away currently so will decline for this month.

Thanks.


Regards

Pete

> On 6 Jul 2020, at 11:31 am, topsm...@internode.on.net wrote:
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> 
> Hello Fellow WAMUGgers,
> 
> Apologies for the late notice. (You just can't get good staff these days. Hee 
> Hee)  Our WAMUG Zoom meeting will take place this Tuesday at 7:30 pm. The 
> first half hour is a presentation, followed by general questions.  
> 
> This month Peter Hinchcliffe will present Art Text 4.  This software allows 
> you to create sophisticated text effects and typography graphics for a 
> variety of media. Just might be the thing to take your presentations and 
> projects to the next level.
> 
> Art Text 4 is available on the App Store. Incidentally, the paid version is 
> currently on offer at 30% discount until July 9. It is not often you get to 
> see software in action before you decide if it is for you.
> 
> If you would like to join please indicate via the list and you will be 
> individually emailed the login details. 
> 
> Cheers, 
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Re: Music

[Pete]

Correct Stephen. If you 'buy' your music from Apple, you've actually only 
bought the right to play it on an Apple device. You can't make a CD of it or 
copy off to any other storage means. 

I'm sure it's in the fine print.

Regards

Pete

> On 28 Jun 2020, at 10:29 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:
> 
> Hi Peter.
> 
> I am not certain about this but ….
> I think if you bought the music from Apple, there are restrictions about 
> copying it.
> 
> 
>> On 28 Jun 2020, at 8:45 pm, Peter Curtis  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all
>> Is there an alternative to ‘Music’ on the Mac? I know I’m a bit behind the 
>> times but it appears I can’t access my music like to put a song on a usb 
>> stick to take somewhere?
>> Kind regards
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Re: Interesting read regarding AV Software

[Pete]

Agreed Ronni 100%.


Regards

Pete

> On 7 Jun 2020, at 8:39 am, Ronni Brown  wrote:
> 
> Hi Marcus,
> 
> I most certainly agree with Alex, I read all a...@macmyths.com and it doesn’t 
> change my mind. I’ve never had any Malware on my computers and I would not 
> recommend installing Norton AV on any Mac computer.
> 
> It is not required and will most likely slow your computer to a crawl.
> 
> Kind Regards,
> Ronni
> 
>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
> 
> 
>> On 6 Jun 2020, at 11:53 pm, Alex  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Marcus & All,
>> 
>> I am not an expert but am a bit dubious about Al & his claims especially 
>> when he promotes Norton.  Although my experience with Norton was on a 
>> client’s Windows machine, I found it virtually impossible to delete it from 
>> their computer & it made their computer painfully sluggish to use.  Could be 
>> different on the Mac environment?  Others may be able to comment better.
>> 
>> Cheers,  Alex
>> 
>>> On 6 Jun 2020, at 9:57 pm, Marcus Harris  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes that is interesting, but do you Personally choose to instal AV 
>>> software. 
>>> I always update my Apple systems ASAP and expect to then be malware secure. 
>>> Should I buy Norton as Al suggests?
>>> Regards
>>> Marcus Harris
>>> Mobile +61417965618
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>> On 6 Jun 2020, at 1:48 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> https://macmyths.com/best-malware-detection-for-mac/
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Stephen Chape
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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Re: 2011 MP with 2 monitors

[Pete]

Thanks for that feedback Neil. Much appreciated.


Regards

Pete

> On 7 Jun 2020, at 7:51 pm, Neil Houghton  wrote:
> 
> Hi Pete, 
> 
> I don't think you can drive a display from the firewire port - I've never 
> seen a cable or adaptor that would achieve this.
> 
> This guy used a usb video adaptor 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=25=vIVZI1cFiAw=emb_logo 
> to drive 2 monitors from a 2011 Macbook Pro (that was back in 2011).
> 
> His monitor was, I think, DVI but the adaptor also handles HDMI - it's not 
> cheap though 
> https://www.amazon.com.au/Diamond-Multimedia-BVU195-2048x1152-1920x1080/dp/B002GHBW4S
>  
> OWC have a similar thing https://eshop.macsales.com/item/NewerTech/VIDU3DVIA/ 
> 
> This article includes other ways involving thunderbolt daisy-chaining 
> https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/62537/can-i-have-multiple-monitors-on-my-macbook-pro-early-2011
>  but since that involves either a thunderbolt display or thunderbolt docks, I 
> don't know if it would be any cheaper.
> 
> 
> HTH
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> 
> 
> Neil
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 07/06/20, 18:12, "Peter Crisp" 
>  petercr...@westnet.com.au> wrote:
> 
>Hi there, my Wife is to soon be working from home. She has a 2011 MacBook 
> Pro with SSD and RAM upgrade so it’s reasonably capable. She wants to be able 
> to use two 24” monitors we have in the office and a bit of a struggle to see 
> how this can be done. 
> 
>The MBP has a FireWire, Thunderbolt and 2 USB ports. I have a Thunderbolt 
> to HDMI cable so that gives one monitor but varying success with finding 
> Firewire to HDMI (or VGA) to feed the second monitor. The lads at JB HIFI 
> didn’t know what Firewire even was!!! They probably hadn’t been born when 
> Firewire was common place. 
> 
>Does anyone have any tips on using the Firewire port for display duties?
> 
>Regards
> 
> 
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Re: big sur

[Pete]

Thanks Marcus! 

Apple envy, will soldier  on with my 2013 MBP.


Regards

Pete

> On 23 Dec 2020, at 7:56 am, Marcus Harris  wrote:
> 
> It’s purring on my new MacMini M1
> If only the NBN was fibre to my home. 
> Marcus 
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>>> On 23 Dec 2020, at 7:53 am, Peter Hinchliffe  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 23 Dec 2020, at 1:25 am, Philippe Chaperon  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Rosemary and Peter, 
>>> 
>>> I have updated my 21” iMac 3 days ago, after having done a full bootable 
>>> copy of the HD, and so far so good. I must admit that I have only used a 
>>> few applications so far, mainly Excel, Mail, GraphicConverter, Safari, 
>>> FireFox, Reunion and Heredis and no problems noted. 
>>> 
>>> Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all WAMUG members
>>> 
>>> Keep safe and enjoy the festivities. 
>>> 
>>> Best Regards,
>>> 
>>> Philippe C. 
>>> 
>> 
>> Great news Philippe. I must say I do feel better about Big Sur overall than 
>> I ever felt about Catalina, which I think was somewhat of a testing ground 
>> in preparation for Big Sur, and a “proof of concept” for going all 64-bit. 
>> Even Kinemac, an animation application I obtained back in 2013 as part of a 
>> software bundle, and has not received an update in all the time since then, 
>> has now gone 64-bit with the release of version 2.0! I think all the 
>> software thats’s important to me is now 64-bit, which certainly was not the 
>> case at the beginning of the year! I’ll be moving forward with confidence I 
>> think.
>> 
>> Have a great Christmas and all the best for the New Year.
>> 
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> 
>> Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
>> FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
>> Perth, Western Australia
>> Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948
>> 
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Re: Alternative to Time Capsule

[Pete]

Hi Peter, thanks for that. Sadly the brain of the TC is dead in my Brother in 
law's unit, we can hear the drive spinning up each time it re powers but no 
lights and no Wi-Fi available from it. If only it were just the HDD failed, I 
could swap it out, I put a 3TB drive into mine many years ago as 1TB was too 
small for my expanding family.


Regards

Pete

> On 16 Nov 2020, at 8:52 am, Peter Hinchliffe  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On 16 Nov 2020, at 8:37 am, Peter Crisp  wrote:
>> 
>> H there, my Brother in law has two iMacs each of which we’re backing to his 
>> old style flat Time Capsule which is now dead - tried all of the reset 
>> methods numerous times. It’s cactus. Some options he has are to buy a used 
>> tower style TC or go to using his iiNet NBN modem Wifi and attach a backup 
>> NAS drive to it and set Time Machine to push backups to the NAS. 
>> 
>> Does anyone have experience with either and if the NAS route is all ok, is 
>> there a recommended brand of NAS?
>> 
>> Does Migration Assistant work ok in pulling back to set up a new iMac from a 
>> backup on a NAS? Are there any downsides to a NAS solution.
>> 
>> The TC is such a good device it is a shame that Apple no longer produce 
>> them. There may be some new-old stock laying around or a cleared known used 
>> one would be ok I suppose.
> 
> The hard d
> rive in my TC died several months ago, but the networking hardware still 
> works so i’ve replaced the TM functionality with a couple of 3 & 5 Tb USB 
> drives. Fortunately these are now cheap enough to make this feasible. I’m 
> looking at a NAS eventually but managing with the current set up at the 
> moment.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
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Re: [WAMUG} MS Office for Mac

[Pete]

Thanks Jewels, will check them out.


Regards

Pete

> On 28 Mar 2021, at 10:16 pm, Julie Bedford  wrote:
> 
> Hi Pete
> 
> I purchased my one off MS Office license from itech.  At the time, they were 
> the cheapest around.  
> https://www.i-tech.com.au/catalogsearch/result/?q=microsoft+office+365
> 
> 
> Cheers
> Jewels
> 
> 
>> On 28 Mar 2021, at 8:25 pm, Peter Crisp  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi folks, I searched through the archives and couldn’t locate the previous 
>> thread, but I need to buy an updated MS Office license (family pack) for my 
>> lot here. 
>> 
>> Can anyone recommend a seller for this - I want the one off purchase not the 
>> annual renewal option?
>> 
>> Thanks in advance.
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> 
>> Pete
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Re: [WAMUG} MS Office for Mac

[Pete]

Hi Neil, yes I agree with your comments below. My deal was 30% off the regular 
Microsoft price of $129 I think brought it down to $90 odd. Then with tax 
deductibility down to $55 there abouts. Happy with that. 

The discount continues as well for all years I remain subscribed.


Regards

Pete

> On 29 Mar 2021, at 3:11 pm, Neil Houghton  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Pete,
>  
> OK you bit the bullet.
>  
> Being retired, I don’t have the option of employee discount OR tax 
> deductibility – but even at Officeworks $113 to renew for a year, I reckon I 
> can afford 30c/day!
>  
> $55 sounds like more than a 30% discount – presumable that’s also after the 
> tax deduction?
>  
>  
> Cheers
>  
>  
> Neil
>  
>  
>  
> From:  on behalf of Peter 
> Crisp 
> Reply-To: WAMUG 
> Date: Monday, 29 March 2021 at 14:17
> To: WAMUG 
> Subject: Re: [WAMUG} MS Office for Mac
>  
> Yes, indeed Jewels. The one off license is now $199, I would be up for 1 now 
> and another soon I suspect, but I eventually decided to go with Office 365 
> (family - 6 users) but my employer is an MS user and via that as an employee 
> i am eligible for a 30% ongoing annual discount. So deal is done. Tax 
> deductible too, so whilst on principle I didn’t want to lock in for ‘life’, 
> it is done - net cost to me ~$55/annum.
>  
> Regards
>  
> Pete.
> 
> 
> On 29 Mar 2021, at 1:48 pm, Julie Bedford  wrote:
>  
> That’s a shame. I think I paid around $165 a year ago for a one off license.
>  
> Jewels
> 
> 
> On 29 Mar 2021, at 10:09 am, Peter Crisp  wrote:
>  
> Hi folks again, thanks for responses, I’ve followed up with both of those 
> vendors and they can provide a Single machine once off installation of Office 
> but I want a multi user version (they were available previously but it seems 
> Microsoft has gone to the annual subscription model - with Office 365). 
>  
> I suppose I am going to have to go the 365 route - for the two of us - as the 
> kids all have direct access to Office via their school/Curtin Uni 
> associations so it seems a waste to provide them additional Office access 
> when they already have it. At $199 per single installation, I’d need two of 
> them.
>  
> Regards
>  
> Pete. 
> 
> 
> On 28 Mar 2021, at 10:54 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:
>  
> Got my 2019 from SoftwareDepot.co in Sydney.
> Excellent price.
> 
> 
> On 28 Mar 2021, at 10:43 pm, Pete  wrote:
>  
> Thanks Jewels, will check them out.
> 
>  
> Regards
>  
> Pete
> 
> 
> On 28 Mar 2021, at 10:16 pm, Julie Bedford  wrote:
> 
> Hi Pete
>  
> I purchased my one off MS Office license from itech.  At the time, they were 
> the cheapest around.  
> https://www.i-tech.com.au/catalogsearch/result/?q=microsoft+office+365
>  
>  
> Cheers
> Jewels
>  
> 
> 
> On 28 Mar 2021, at 8:25 pm, Peter Crisp  wrote:
>  
> Hi folks, I searched through the archives and couldn’t locate the previous 
> thread, but I need to buy an updated MS Office license (family pack) for my 
> lot here. 
> 
> Can anyone recommend a seller for this - I want the one off purchase not the 
> annual renewal option?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Regards
> 
> 
> Pete
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Re: [WAMUG} flagging emails Big Sure

[Pete]

Hi Robin thanks, im sure the Apple OSX development team talk amongst themselves 
when developing new OSX 'features' saying "what can we change the appearance of 
to make the users think our new OSX has actually been updated when in fact were 
just changing appearance for appearance change sake"?

Oh well, there is true technical change thrown in for good measure as well and 
it is undoubtedly better than the old Snow Leopard days - which was a very good 
OSX when it was deployed then.



Regards

Pete

> On 31 Mar 2021, at 8:41 pm, Robin Belford  wrote:
> 
> Hi Walter
> 
> It has gone away from the place you have described.
> 
> Flag now appears in the top right in the email header field. Under the date 
> and time.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> robin
> 
>> On 28 Mar 2021, at 8:38 pm, FW  wrote:
>> 
>> Good evening all,
>> 
>> on my wife’s iMac running 11.2.3 I am not able to flag an email.
>> 
>> Previously [on Mojave] the flag would show on the left of the email list. 
>> When I go to the Flag button on the top menu line I can select the colour 
>> but the email is not flagged.
>> 
>> What am I doing wrong ?
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Walter
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Re: [WAMUG} Chrome is Bad !!!

[Pete]

Thanks for that, it's interesting. How does one uninstall Chrome? 


Regards

Pete

> On 4 Apr 2021, at 11:59 am, Stephen Chape  wrote:
> 
> Got this email from my son today asking for my thoughts.
> If anyone else has had this issue .. your thoughts please ?
> 
> Or if you would like the rest of the article, I can email to you off WAMUG.
> 
>> Chrome is Bad
>> Dec 12 2020
>> 
>> Short story: Google Chrome installs an updater called Keystone on your 
>> computer, which is bizarrely correlated to massive unexplained CPU usage in 
>> WindowServer (a system process)[1], and made my whole computer slow even 
>> when Chrome wasn't running. Deleting Chrome and Keystone made my computer 
>> way, way faster, all the time. Click here for instructions.
>> 
>> Long story: I noticed my brand new 16" MacBook Pro started acting sluggishly 
>> doing even trivial things like scrolling. Activity Monitor showed *nothing* 
>> from Google using the CPU, but WindowServer was taking ~80%, which is 
>> abnormally high (it should use <10% normally).
>> 
>> Doing all the normal things (quitting apps, logging out other users, 
>> restarting, zapping PRAM/SMC, etc) did nothing, then I remembered I had 
>> installed Chrome a while back to test a website.
>> 
>> I deleted Chrome, and noticed Keystone while deleting some of Chrome's other 
>> preferences and caches. I deleted everything from Google I could find, 
>> restarted the computer, and it was like night-and-day. Everything was 
>> instantly and noticeably faster, and WindowServer CPU was well under 10% 
>> again.
>> 
>> Then something else hit me, my family had been complaining about the 
>> sluggish performance of a 2015 iMac since practically the day we bought it. 
>> I had tried everything I could think of – it had a Fusion drive and the 
>> symptoms were consistent with a failing SSD – but drive diagnostics always 
>> turned up nothing. We even went as far as to completely wipe and set up the 
>> computer fresh multiple times.
>> 
>> Then I remembered, installing Chrome was always one of the first things we 
>> did when we set up the computer. I deleted Chrome, and all the files 
>> Keystone had littered on the computer, restarted, and it was so snappy it 
>> felt like a brand new computer.
>> 
>> Yeah, I realize this sounds like a freakin' infomercial, but it worked so 
>> well I spent a whole $5 on a domain name and set up this website even if it 
>> makes me sound like a raving nut.
>> 
> 
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> Stephen Chape
> 
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Re: [WAMUG] Cannot get external monitor to display full resolution

[Pete]

Right, that is great news Neil, glad you got it sorted and strange that just a 
cable made the difference. But a good lesson for us all to be aware of.


Regards

Pete

> On 26 Mar 2022, at 1:38 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:
> 
> Great outcome Neil.
> Good old fashioned persistence eh !
> 
>> On 26 Mar 2022, at 1:02 pm, Neil Houghton  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Peter,
>>  
>> No, only newer machine is a Macbook Air which, aside from being with Georgie 
>> in Perth at the moment, only has USB3 ports. So no other way to test the 
>> same monitor/lead setup.
>>  
>> But, I’m pretty sure it shouldn’t be the older OSX since the machine, as 
>> bought, supposedly supported video output up to 2560x1600 through the mini 
>> display port and it came with SL 10.6!
>>  
>>  
>> However, since Officeworks is a 15 minute walk, and since I value my ever 
>> diminishing time on this earth, I may pass on saving a few dollars waiting 
>> for Amazon and just buy the lead and see if it works!
>>  
>> Sometime later …… Well, that DID work!!
>>  
>> Both iMac and external monitor are now set at 2560x1440 and, interestingly, 
>> the monitor display also seems much crisper and cleaner with the new cable.
>>  
>> Also, a quick systems report now shows that the iMac recognises the display 
>> as:
>> LEN D32qc-20:
>>   Resolution:   2560 x 1440 @ 60 Hz
>>   Pixel Depth: 32-Bit Color (ARGB)
>>   Mirror:   Off
>>   Online:   Yes
>>   Rotation:   Supported
>>   Connection Type:  DisplayPort
>>   Television:Yes
>>  
>> So, now I’m a happy camper and, even though the monitor only has the same 
>> resolution as the iMac screen, the larger physical size means I don’t need 
>> the same zoom level on Excel spreadsheets and so see more of each worksheet.
>>  
>> The lesson learned is:
>> If you want to drive an external monitor from an older Mac with a mini 
>> display port  output you will get MUCH better results with a mini display 
>> port to display port cable than with a mini display port to HDMI cable.
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Cheers
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Neil
>>  
>> From:  on behalf of Peter 
>> Crisp 
>> Reply-To: WAMUG 
>> Date: Friday, 25 March 2022 at 14:26
>> To: WAMUG 
>> Subject: Re: [WAMUG] Cannot get external monitor to display full resolution
>>  
>> Hi Neil, I read this with interest as I too have found the adaption of 
>> external monitors with Mac’s a bit hit and miss. 
>>  
>> As a test, do you have on hand a late model Mac/Macbook you could see if the 
>> later OSX is smarter in this sense and how it recognises the external 
>> monitor when you plug it in using the leads you currently have and get the 
>> quick systems report for the connected monitor. Your 2009 Mac is certainly 
>> high spec but by being 2009, it is held back to older OSX versions and 
>> perhaps this may be the issue. You may have to get yourself a late model 
>> iMac but I wouldn’t resort to that yet.
>>  
>> Pete.
>>  
>> 
>>> On 25 Mar 2022, at 1:48 pm, Neil Houghton  wrote:
>>>  
>>> OK, here is the iMac setup:
>>>  
>>> Late 2009 27” iMac – top configuration, 2.8 GHz core i7, Graphics ATI 
>>> Radeon HD 4850 512 MB
>>> iMac has been reconfigured with 250 GB SSD, 3TB internal drive and 
>>> currently 20GB RAM
>>> Currently running El Capitan OSX 10.11.6
>>>  
>>> With the SSD and RAM upgrade this is still pretty snappy and I am 
>>> frequently running multiple Excel spreadsheets and/or multiple browser 
>>> windows with many tabs in each – which took me to a second monitor.
>>>  
>>> For a while I had a 27” full HD 1920x1080 monitor running, which all worked 
>>> fine but I found the discontinuity of tracking from the 2560x1440 iMac 
>>> screen to the 1920x1080 monitor screen sufficiently annoying that I ended 
>>> up reducing the iMac resolution to 1920x1080 to match the monitor – which I 
>>> found much more useable.
>>>  
>>> However it seemed a shame to have to resort to downgrading the iMac 
>>> resolution – so, given that the iMac can support video output up to 
>>> 2560x1600 - I decided to upgrade the monitor!
>>>  
>>> I found a good deal on a 31.5” monitor with 2560x1440 resolution – the same 
>>> as the iMac native resolution this was the product (though it was only $355 
>>> when I bought it)
>>>

Re: [WAMUG] Movie format for Smart TV?

[Pete]

Yes, I’d have thought .mov or if that fails try mp4. 

Alternatively, is there a way via Sending the files via a cloud service (like 
Google Drive) for the recipient to grab at  their end by their smart tv?


Regards

Pete

> On 1 May 2022, at 2:28 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:
> 
> Hi Rod.
> I have always used MOV for that purpose.
> Only ever had one TV that would not speak that language.
> 
>> On 1 May 2022, at 12:00 pm, Rod Blitvich  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Folks
>> I am sending some movies on a USB drive to someone who wishes to view on 
>> their smart TV.
>> Will .mov on a standard USB drive work ok for them?
>> Thank you
>> Blitto
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
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>> 
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Re: [WAMUG] how do I clear the cache on my iinet Router?

[Pete]

Maybe take a record of your configuration settings for your router, then do a 
factory reset and re establish again from ‘new’. If that doesn’t work, I don’t 
know what next might work.


Regards

Pete

> On 11 May 2022, at 5:27 pm, Rod Blitvich  wrote:
> 
> THANKS Tim & Peter !!!
> 
> 
> SO: It loads on friend’s computers but not MY mac!
> When I connect my mac to my phone hotspot it DOES load.
> I have tried to clear caches etc.
> I have emailed the support people at the website hosting service 
> I’ve asked them Has my IP been blacklisted due to too many login attempts
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
>   rb...@iinet.net.au 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 11 May 2022, at 3:49 pm, Tim Law  wrote:
>> 
>> If it does prove to be the case that too many login attempts have been made 
>> by your IP, the next question is how to resolve it. 
>> 
>> Being a subscriber to the outstanding web hosting provided by our very own 
>> Hosting Services WA and the irrepressible Daniel Kerr, I am able to go to my 
>> website and it asks me if I wish to unblock my IP. All very civilised and 
>> easy. 
>> 
>> How it is done elsewhere, I will leave you to explore. :-)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 11 May 2022, at 3:40 pm, Peter Crisp  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes, briefly turn Wifi off your phone while testing this within the house. 
>>> That might be it Tim.
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Pete
>>> 
>>>>> On 11 May 2022, at 3:33 pm, Tim Law  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>> Rod does it work on your phone when you are away from the house, ie not 
>>>> on home wifi?
>>>> 
>>>> If yes, your IP may have been blacklisted due to too many login attempts 
>>>> or some other black art. 
>>>> If no, continue on and ignore my idea, I have nothing useful to 
>>>> contribute.  :-)
>>>> 
>>>> Regards
>>>> 
>>>> Tim 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 11 May 2022, at 3:13 pm, Rod Blitvich  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Folks
>>>>> I am setting up a new wordpress blog.
>>>>> The Blog won’t load - "can't find the server".
>>>>> It DOES load when I use my phone.
>>>>> Does this suggest I need to “clear caches”
>>>>> I’ve done that on my laptop browser, but the problem persists.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Please - how do I clear the cache on my iinet Router?
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
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>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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WAMUG Meeting Reminder: This Tuesday 6 December 2011 (Please Do Not Reply)

[Pete Smith]

G'day all WAMUGGERs.

We're near the end of the year and the last WAMUG monthly meeting for 2011!

So, if you haven't set your iCals up, do so for Tuesday 6 December 2011 and the 
last meeting of 2011. There wont be another until February next year.

See the website for full details.
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7 pm start - 9 pm finish.
See you there.

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WAMUG Meeting Final Reminder: Tomorrow 6 December 2011 (Please Do Not Reply)

[Pete Smith]

G'day all WAMUGGERs.

We're near the end of the year and the last WAMUG monthly meeting for 2011!

So, if you haven't set your iCals up, do so for tomorrow, Tuesday 6 December 
2011 and the last meeting of 2011. There wont be another until February next 
year.

See the website for full details.
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Re: Search Box tip

[Pete Smith]

G'day Neil.

Thanks for that tip. You weren't alone. I didn't know that trick and, like you, 
I organise into many and various folders, sub-folders, etc. Just followed your 
help and hey presto, there it was. Like your good self, I'm still happily using 
Snow Leopard.

Now I just have to remember the names of the folders

Regards,

Pete Smith

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On 26/01/2012, at 11:34 AM, Neil Houghton wrote:

 Stuart,
 
 I am on Snow Leopard myself so, yes, it is a Snow Leopard feature:
 
 Pick a file you have open and save as in the save as dialogue box that
 opens there is a search box (with the magnifying glass icon in it) in the
 top right corner - start typing in this box and it becomes a spotlight type
 search (that is matched items are shown as you type) when you see the folder
 you want:
 
 If you select the folder you can see its path - very useful if you have more
 than one folder with the name - eg if you file things by the year you may
 have several folders called, say, 2009/10 but filed in different spots and
 holding different content
 
 When you have identified the correct folder you can double-click that folder
 and you are back in the normal save as dialogue box but now in the folder
 you want - so just hit save.
 
 Works for me ;o)
 
 
 Cheers
 
 
 Neil
 -- 
 Neil R. Houghton
 Albany, Western Australia
 Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
 Email: n...@possumology.com
 
 
 
 
 
 on 26/1/12 10:34 AM, Stuart Breden at bred...@highway1.biz wrote:
 
 Neil, this does not appear to be a Snow Leopard feature.
 
 Only a Lion feature?  If so then I for one will use it as I have nested
 folders as well and it is tiresome finding the level folder to save the
 document.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Stuart Breden
 PO Box 132
 Kalamunda WA 6926
 Ph: (08) 9257 1577
 Mbl: 0417 053 266
 
 Please consider the environment before printing this email
 
 
 
 
 On 24/01/2012, at 9:36 PM, Neil Houghton wrote:
 
 This one falls into the obvious when you think about it category - so many
 of you will think doesn't everyone know that - but it never occurred to me
 until today! ;o)
 
 Being a Mac user from way before spotlight searches were introduced, I got
 into the habit of sorting all my documents into folders, then the folders
 into folders, and so on. Over the years that leads to several levels of
 nested folders - I know some of you will identify with this obsessive need
 for order ;o)
 
 This works very well for me (and spotlight is always there if I forget where
 I filed something). It can however be a minor annoyance when using, for
 example, the save as dialogue and having to navigate through the various
 folders/levels to get to the appropriate folder to file a new document. I
 tend to put the folders where I am always working into the finder sidebar -
 so it is easy to go straight to them - it is the other folders, several
 layers down, which take a few clicks to get there.
 
 Then, today, I noticed that the save as dialogue box also incorporates the
 search window - so I just put in the name of the folder I wanted to get to
 and took the save process straight there - sweet!
 
 As I say, pretty obvious when you think about it - but it took me a while
 to think of it - so it may just help someone else ;o)
 
 
 Cheers
 
 
 
 Neil
 -- 
 Neil R. Houghton
 Albany, Western Australia
 Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
 Email: n...@possumology.com
 
 
 
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WAMUG Meeting Reminder: This Tuesday 7 February 2012 (Please Do Not Reply)

[Pete Smith]

G'day all WAMUGGERS

Christmas and New Year are over and so are my holidays! Back to work and busy, 
busy. So busy I missed my iCal reminder! Hope you haven't missed yours.

Yes, they're on again. The first WAMUG monthly meeting is set for this coming 
Tuesday, 7 February 2012.

See the website for full details.
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7 pm start - 9 pm finish.
See you there.

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Subscription Reminder: WAMUG Members 2012

[Pete Smith]

To all WAMUG financial members.

Just a reminder that due to the change in the WAMUG Constitution last year, all 
subscriptions now run from January to December, the calendar year. So payments 
for this year are now due.

See the website for cheque and electronic transfer details; 
http://www.wamug.org.au/join/; or bring your payment ($30) to the February 
monthly meeting and surprise our treasurer!!

Regards,

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Re: Update - can now proceed with Snow Leopard Security Update 2012-001 version 1.1

[Pete Smith]

Thanks for that Carlo.

It explains why two days after I downloaded the security update, it told me to 
do it again. So I did. One less question for the meeting. See you tomorrow.

Regards,

Pete Smith

On 05/02/2012, at 10:28 AM, cm wrote:

 Well that was quick. :-) Apple has patched Snow Leopard Security Update 
 2012-001 with version 1.1
 
 http://www.macrumors.com/2012/02/04/apple-revises-snow-leopard-security-update-and-pulls-10-7-3-delta-update/
 
 As a side note, the above article also claims that they have pulled the delta 
 update to OS X Lion 10.7.3 and left only the combo update.
 
 Cheers,
 Carlo
 
 On 05/02/2012, at 10:22 , cm wrote:
 
 Hi Muggers,
 
 If you are running OS X Snow Leopard 10.6.8 and use some Rosetta 
 applications, including Microsoft Office X and 2004, older versions of Adobe 
 Photoshop, Quicken, and Filemaker 7, it seems you may want to hold off 
 installing Apples latest security update 2012-001. Some users are having 
 trouble with these and other Rosetta applications. According to MacRumours a 
 fix may be on the way.
 
 http://www.macrumors.com/2012/02/03/snow-leopard-security-update-kills-powerpc-apps-using-rosetta/
 
 Cheers,
 Carlo
 
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WAMUG Annual General Meeting; This Tuesday 6 March 2012

[Pete Smith]

G'day all WAMUGGERS

The annual general meeting of the Western Australian Macintosh User Group is on 
this coming Tuesday, 6 March 2012.

The monthly meeting will be included immediately after.

There may well be a surprise in store. See tomorrow's reminder (evening).

See the website for full details.
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7 pm start - 9 pm finish.
See you there.

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WAMUG Meeting Reminder: This Tuesday 3 April 2012 (Please Do Not Reply)

[Pete Smith]

G'day all WAMUGGERS.

Have you set your iCals up for April's monthly meeting next Tuesday 3 April 
2012?

Better still; have you subscribed to the WAMUG iCal calendar? (See list post 
[WAMUG Committee] Posting for iCal Calendar of 26 March for details)

Just don't forget. We're trying something different this meeting.

See the website for full details.
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7 pm start - 9 pm finish.
See you there.

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WAMUG Meeting Final Reminder: This Tuesday 3 April 2012 (Please Do Not Reply)

[Pete Smith]

G'day all WAMUGGERS.

Have you set your iCals up for April's monthly meeting this Tuesday 3 April 
2012?

Better still; have you subscribed to the WAMUG iCal calendar? (See list post 
[WAMUG Committee] Posting for iCal Calendar of 26 March for details)

Just don't forget.

We're trying something different this meeting.

See the website for full details.
http://www.wamug.org.au/meetings/.

7 pm start - 9 pm finish.
See you there.

Regards

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Re: Mail text size

[Pete Smith]

Hi Ronni.

Thanks for that. It works a treat.

Now I won't get those forehead marks on the screen when I send emails home from 
work

Thanks again.

Pete Smith

iMac 2.8 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
4GB 800 MHz DDR2 SDRAM
750GB Hdrive OS X 10.6.6

On 11/04/2012, at 15:57 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:

 Hi People who have been following this subject,
 
 We have exhausted every way of making Mail Text larger, but please bear with 
 me just for one last response.
 
 I have been annoyed for years with incoming mail from Windows Users showing 
 much smaller than other incoming mail.
 I actually get annoyed that Windows Users even email me… (only kidding Wendy 
 at work, who uses a Mac in her ‘Real Life' ;-))
 
 Well, today I was determined to solve this annoying problem, and I have 
 achieved what I set out to achieve.
 My eyes are not as good as they used to be, (it’s not anything to do with 
 ‘Age’ Daniel)… it’s spending anything up to 20 hours a day working on 
 computer screens. So I like my email font at size16…
 
 The Solution:
 
 The tiny font problem usually involves HTML mail coming from Windows users 
 (why don’t they get a Mac to email me)!
 Fortunately, you can set Mail to have a minimum that it will use for HTML 
 messages... but you have to go to the Terminal for it.  
 
 1. Quit Mail
 2. Open Terminal.app
 3. Copy  Paste in the following command:
 
 defaults write com.apple.mail MinimumHTMLFontSize 16
 
 Note that you can use any size you like, it does not have to be 16.  For eyes 
 that can see well, probably 12. 
 If you don't like it, run the command again with a different number.
 
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
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 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
 
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Re: Another eBook deal from Peachpit Press

[Pete Smith]

G'day Peter.

Thanks for this.

I've downloaded it and look forward to reading it on my iPad. I like the 
personal touch they give where your name is imprinted in it as in Peter 
Smith's Library on the epub version. Very nice.

Thanks again.

Pete Smith

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On 17/04/2012, at 07:26 AM, Peter Hinchliffe wrote:

 In the latest weekly deal from Peachpit Press, you can pick up a copy of 
 their Visual QuickStart Guide to iCloud for $9.99. 
 
 http://www.peachpit.com/deals/?WT.mc_id=2012_Apr_16_PP_PBM_iCloud_EDOW
 
 Their previous offering, developing your own iPhone app, has proven to be 
 excellent value, and being an eBook, it goes wherever my iPad goes. Although 
 these deals say they are eBook deals, you also get a PDF version thrown in 
 for good measure.
 
 
 Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
 FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
 Perth, Western Australia
 Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948
 
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WAMUG Meeting Reminder: This Tuesday 1 May 2012 (Please Do Not Reply)

[Pete Smith]

G'day all WAMUGGERS.

Have you subscribed to the WAMUG iCal calendar? Or at least put it your own 
iCal? You don't want to forget May's monthly meeting  next Tuesday 1 May 2012. 
It should be a beauty.

We're having a guest presenter give a presentation on Reunion which will be 
followed by a practical hands-on experience using the software yourself on one 
of the computers at FutureSphere.

See the website for full details.
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7 pm start - 9 pm finish.
See you there.

Regards

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WAMUG Meeting Final Reminder: This Tuesday 1 May 2012 (Please Do Not Reply)

[Pete Smith]

G'day again all WAMUGGERS.

Have you subscribed to the WAMUG iCal calendar (it's free)? Or at least put it 
in your own iCal? You don't want to forget May's monthly meeting  this Tuesday 
1 May 2012. It should be a beauty.

We're having a guest presenter give a presentation on Reunion which will be 
followed by a practical hands-on experience using the software yourself on one 
of the computers at FutureSphere.

See the website for full details and to subscribe to the iCal calendar.
http://www.wamug.org.au/meetings/.

7 pm start - 9 pm finish.
See you there.

Regards

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WAMUG Meeting Reminder: This Tuesday 5 June 2012 (Please Do Not Reply)

[Pete Smith]

G'day all WAMUGGERS

Is your iCal set for next Tuesday's monthly meeting? If not, put 5 June 2012 at 
7pm into it.

Rock up for the second go of our new format. This month we'll be looking at 
Bento and you can give it a try.

See the website for full details.
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7 pm start - 9 pm finish.
See you there.

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WAMUG Meeting Final Reminder: This Tuesday 5 June 2012 (Please Do Not Reply)

[Pete Smith]

G'day again all WAMUGGERS

Have you downloaded the WAMUG Meeting Calendar yet? Because if you have, it 
will remind you again about this month's monthly meeting tomorrow, Tuesday, 5 
June 2012. If not, write it on the wall, tie a piece of string around your 
finger, put a post-it note on the windscreen; do anything to remember it.

It should a good one and if you're interested in Bento, come and have a play 
with it.

See the website for full details.
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7 pm start - 9 pm finish.
See you there.

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Re: Date Format in Word 11

[Pete Smith]

Hi Severin.

I don't have Word 11, only Word 8 but I was wondering if setting the language 
to English (UK) might work.

They might think we're the 51st State but they sure as heck know their cousins 
across the lake are definitely not.

Just a thought.

Regards,

Pete Smith

On 01/07/2012, at 22:59 PM, Brian Risbey wrote:

 Hi Severin
 
 I retried this
 
 It may be the solution,
 
 Select text change language and auto insert the date and when swapping from 
 US to Aus English the format did change.
 
 Brian
 
 
 
 
 On 01/07/2012, at 10:56 PM, Brian Risbey wrote:
 
 Hi Severin,
 
 Just another thought, 
 
 does ensuring you have Language English (Aus) - Australian - change the date 
 format?
 
 (May have to select all text before changing Language setting.)
 
 
 Word  Menu  Tools  Language…  English (AUS)
 
 
 Brian
 
 
 On 01/07/2012, at 10:22 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:
 
 Ronni, my problem is that none of the Available Formats (your 2.) are what I 
 want, they are all US not Australian.  This is despite Australian being set 
 and looking good in Date  Time under System Preferences, Office11/Word will 
 not Autralianise.  Excel is fine, you can set a custom dated format, but not 
 that I can get to in Word.  
 Thanks for the detailed response!
 Severin
 
 On 01/07/2012, at 4:46 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 Hi Severin,
 
 When you insert a date and a time into your document, and you try to set a 
 default date and time format by clicking Default (on the Insert menu, click 
 Date And Time), the format that you choose will revert to the first setting 
 under Available Formats.
 
 To work around this problem, use an AutoText entry and assign the formatted 
 date setting to a keystroke combination. 
 To do this, follow these steps:
 1.  On the Insert menu, click Date And Time.
 2.  Under Available Formats, select the format that you want, click to 
 select the Update Automatically check box, and then click OK.
 3.  Select the resulting field, point to AutoText on the Insert menu, and 
 then click New.
 4.  Give the entry a name, and then click OK.
 5.  On the Tools menu, click Customize, and then click Shortcut.
 6.  Under Categories, select AutoText. Under AutoText, select the name that 
 you called your date AutoText entry.
 7.  Put the insertion point in the Press New Shortcut Key input box, type in 
 a keystroke combination, and then click Assign.
 8.  Click OK.
 
 
 To set a default date and time for only the current session of Word for Mac, 
 follow these steps:
 1.  On the Insert menu, click Date and Time.
 2.  Under Available Formats, select a format.
 3.  Click Default, and then click OK.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
 
 OS X 10.7.4 Lion
 Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
 
 
 
 On 01/07/2012, at 4:07 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:
 
 Brian, I am set to Australia and all the displayed sample formats are as 
 required.  The custom box is greyed out.  Word11 is obviously overriding 
 this setting.  
 Severin
 
 On 01/07/2012, at 12:38 AM, Brian Risbey wrote:
 
 Hi Severin,
 
 Have you gone to OSX system settings,  - in the top Personal row?
 Look in 'Language  Texts' tab
 you will now see 'Formats' tab at top 3rd one across
 the a region box, you can select a country - Australia, mine is set to 
 custom.
 
 Brian
 
 On 30/06/2012, at 5:02 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:
 
 The menu item Insert/Date and Time uses US format.  i.e. today is 6/30/12 
 not 30/6/12.  In Excel you can customise the format but I can not find 
 where to do it in Word.  I am sure it can be done.  Help please.
 Severin Crisp
 I have taken a long while to get used to the palettes in Word now being in 
 the menu bar, but have come to like it. 
 
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WAMUG Meeting Final Reminder: This Tuesday 3 July 2012 (Please Do Not Reply)

[Pete Smith]

G'day all WAMUGGERS

Set up your iCal if you haven't already and don't forget tomorrow's monthly 
meeting. Tuesday 3 July 2012.

See the website for full details.
http://www.wamug.org.au/meetings/.

7 pm start - 9 pm finish.
See you there.

Regards

Pete Smith
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WAMUG Meeting 1 Only Reminder: This Tuesday 7 August 2012 (Please Do Not Reply)

[Pete Smith]

G'day all WAMUGGERS

If you haven't set your iCal up for the meeting this coming Tuesday, 7 August 
2012, then you best do so or stick a note on the fridge. Talking of which, I 
wonder how long it will be before someone comes out with a fridge door with an 
inbuilt electronic note pad on it (in it?)?

Anyway, I digress. Make yourself a reminder because this is the only reminder 
I'm sending out this month. Why? I hear you ask. Well, I'll be in Rottnest, 
feet up, rugged up, book in hand (a proper paper type book I can turn the pages 
of!!!) and wine within reach and, hopefully, listening to thundering rain.

Enjoy the meeting.

See the website for full details.
http://www.wamug.org.au/meetings/.

7 pm start - 9 pm finish.
The others will see you there.

Regards

Pete Smith
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Re: Proposed name change to Apple Users WA

[Pete Smith]

Hi Ronni and all other WAMUGGERS.

I'd just like to address two points from a personal perspective to put your 
minds at ease.

1. Domain name.   Knowing that the name change would invoke healthy public 
debate on a public forum and also knowing that there are people out there (not 
WAMUGGERS!!) who snap up possible domain names to hold out for 'ransom', so to 
speak,  a couple of domain names were snapped up by WAMUG first.

If the end result is that the membership vote to change the name, we already 
have the domain secured. If the end result is that membership vote to retain 
WAMUG, then the domain names will simply expire and not be renewed. It was just 
a precautionary thing.

Personally - please consider the change and vote for what you want.

2. Constitution.   I don't know where the 28 days has come from. Our 
constitution reads:

5.3 Notice of General Meetings
At least twenty one days notice of every Annual General Meeting or fourteen 
days for every Special General Meeting shall be given to Members specifying the 
place, the date and the hour of the Meeting and the general nature of any 
special business, but the non-receipt of such notice by any Member shall not 
invalidate the proceedings at any General Meeting.

The Associations Incorporation Act 1987 allows us to set the time period as we 
see fit as long it is actually in the Rules (Constitution) which it is. Other 
bodies may have 28 days but we don't. As you see, it is 21 days for the AGM and 
only 14 days for a Special General meeting.

Regards,

Pete Smith

On 12/09/2012, at 17:15 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:

 OOPS ... I forgot another point I did hint at it my first post to the list.
 
 In the post from the Committee it was mentioned having to explain the WAMUG 
 name. Isn't this sort of doing the right thing, as it's getting them 
 enquiring about it.  
 Once you've got them asking what it is, you then explain what WAMUG is, what 
 it does (covering all Apple products) etc etc.
 
 You have then got them intrigued enough to enquire about it, so you've 
 got them,... then you can sell them on the idea to come and see, come to a 
 meeting or join the Mailing List.
 
 Well that's it from me, all done, nothing more to say.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 On 12/09/2012, at 4:57 PM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi WAMUGers,
 
 Well, I have said Hi WAMUGers another time ;-)
 
 I've been giving some more thought to this and watching the list and 
 comments and pondering the following, which I haven't seen answered as yet, 
 so will re-post for interest sake, some of the queries raised so far, as 
 well as some points of interest I have.
 
 First off, I'm assuming that appleuserswa.org.au would be the new website 
 address. After doing a search of registered Domain Names, I noticed it was 
 registered already, which I then discovered was by WAMUG. Just curious why 
 this was registered when it has not been agreed on as yet?
 
 Secondly, Merv mentioned the other day that the Special Meeting requires a 
 28 day notice, so may not fall in time for the 2nd October. I'm assuming 
 this would then need to be the November meeting to keep in line with the 
 constitution.
 
 The Committee mention a marketing push in the original post. Has a marketing 
 push been tried currently with WAMUG as it stands to date?
 Couldn't this be tried as another (much easier) way to try and recruit more 
 members. Surely just advertising WAMUG - come along to learn all about and 
 gain extensive knowledge and help for all things Apple - iPhone, iPad, 
 AppleTV. New members welcome to the monthly meetings. Or something along 
 that theme? 
 
 Any marketing material would still just refer to the whole range of Apple 
 products and services that you're trying to target. And those older, longer 
 (or lost) members who still remember WAMUG, it may be enough of a Refresh 
 to dig them out of the woodwork. 
 As mentioned in my first email, I still get a lot of people that email me 
 privately about how great a service is given by WAMUG.
 
 Which also brings out the question of costing? Has a budget or costing been 
 looked at for all this as yet? Or is that to follow the name change? I know 
 you have to spend money to make money as the saying goes, but we (as WAMUG 
 as a whole) obviously still need to cover the running costs of the group I 
 would imagine without blowing out the budget. 
 Surely if we could try a marketing push without the added expensive of all 
 these changes first, would show if it's going to work or not?
 
 Another point that has been worrying me is... How does Apple itself feel 
 about this, given that it wasn't that long ago (3-4 years I think) that they 
 took back AppleCentre names from the Resellers. Are we (as WAMUG) allowed 
 now to use Apple Users? Or is that something they would take back down the 
 track as well?
 
 As everyone knows I am all for WAMUG, I believe in WAMUG's principles and 
 work and I try to do the very best I possibly can

iTunes 10.7

[Pete Smith]

iTunes update out now. Downloading at 163.3mb as I type.

iTunes 10.7 adds support for iOS 6 running on compatible iPhone, iPad, and 
iPod touch models. This update also adds support for the latest iPod nano and 
iPod shuffle models.

Regards,

Pete Smith

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Re: Proposed name change to Apple Users WA

[Pete Smith]

G'day Daniel.

No offence taken, nor even thought about.

I enjoy reading your posts when you explain things. After all, you're the 
wizard and I'm just happy cruising through at the lower levels. You know my 
knowledge - when they mentioned a couple of domains, I got all excited 
thinking we going to crack a Domaine Chandon champagne or two - alas...

I missed your (below) post on Thursday. I was downloading the Apple Event 
podcast when my iTunes told me of the update to 10.7 so I quickly posted it to 
the list and didn't even see your one. Today's the first day back at the 
computer. Well, mine, anyway, I'm sick of work's one.

The Apple Event was good. iPhone 5 - you little beauty

Cheers,

Pete Smith

On 13/09/2012, at 15:09 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:

 I've ummmered and aed about replying to this, and whether to or not,…but 
 well, obviously trom my post I am about to…..
 
 First off, this is not meant to in any way to cause offence, or be seen to be 
 having a go, especially to you Pete and I apologise up front if it seems that 
 way.  I also apologise if it gets taken the wrong way as well,…as it's meant 
 in the sincerest way.
 
 Though I understand that wanting to grab the domains before someone else did, 
 this is a lot more difficult for .org.au's to do. Sure, if this was a .com 
 then I'd tend to agree.
 A .com.au and .org.au hold a bit more weight to them when aiming to be 
 purchased. A .com.au can only be purchased with an ABN and has to have some 
 close resemblance to the Business Name or organisation. 
 A.org.au can only be purchased by a non-profit of charity organisation. And 
 normally those parties have to have a Certificate of Incorporation before 
 they can purchase it. (And perhaps a constitution as well, I'm not 100% sure 
 on that one). But it's certainly a lot harder for someone to sit on them for 
 the sake of sitting on them,….if that makes sense. i fully understand about 
 aiming to get them  before someone else did and as long as a regulated 
 business is used to check domain names the risk of this happening is a lot 
 less (I've never been overtaken on checking a name for clients I've set 
 them up for and looked up, but I always use a well known and trusted domain 
 checker. And I can understand about worry about the use of a name in a public 
 forum where it may get taken, but realistically I feel this is quite low for 
 .org.au. The work involved to try and get it versus the reward from it would 
 be almost negligible. (if possible as well). The AuDA is very strict on these 
 sort of things, and even if someone did without the right paper trail I 
 have a feeling it would be overwritten if the wrong party did it for that 
 sole practice.
 A .com is a completely different story of course,…lol. You see those go for 
 silly sums sometimes! lol. 
 I know the cost is minimal, and I guess it's not like we had 4 or 5 to choose 
 from,…lol :)) (or had been purchased,…lol).
 
 Again, Pete this is not to meant to seem like an attack on you or anything 
 like that,.. I just really wanted to partially clarify that information for 
 interests sake. (if people were looking at domains later, it's not too 
 scary). ;o))
 
 
 I, like others have mentioned, are a bit concerned at the AUWA acronym, as I 
 feel it could be associated to do with UWA. That's why my first thought is 
 when I see it, as others have mentioned to me as well. So we could get 
 ourselves into some hot water with UWA as well. Hey, I could be wrong,..but 
 that's my first thought with it as well. The same, as Ronni mentioned, with 
 using Apple in the name. More so now that Apple are really pushing into 
 everything themselves with the Apple branded stores, and everything 
 associated with it. We certainly wouldn't want to get in trouble with them, 
 or assumed that we're something to do with Apple direct. That's a whole lot 
 of hot water to get into,…lol.
 So, I could see, like Vlad mentioned (which Shane bought up), if it was to be 
 changed (at all) to be WA Apple Users Group. (WAAU or WAAUG - however you'd' 
 pronounce them) it's less in your face Apple. 
 Either way, whichever is used, WAMUG, AUWA, WAAU, WAAUG etc etc et), you'll 
 always need to explain it. I think that goes without saying. Even if 
 advertising WA Macintosh User Group, Apple Users WA, WA Apple Users, WA Apple 
 Users Group,..etc etc it can be seen as long,..or shorted to the acronym, 
 which will still need to be explained. So either way, I don't think that's an 
 issue (not a major one anyway I feel. Besides, any type of explanation for 
 it gets the person involved in the discussion. Hook, line and sinker? (lol, 
 and I don't even fish!),..hehe).
 
 There were a couple of other points I had, but I think I've rambled enough……
 
 I'd just like to finish  again by saying, I apologise if anything is taken 
 the wrong way. It's not meant to be, and hopefully those who know me 
 understand I'm trying to portray all this. The last thing

Special General Meeting Postponement

[Pete Smith]

Hi all WAMUGGERs.

Due to unforeseen circumstances (not related to the proposed name change), the 
special general meeting planned for Tuesday, 2 October 2012 has been cancelled. 
It is envisaged that a special general meeting will be called to coincide with 
the December monthly meeting to be held on Tuesday 4 December 2012, however, 
you will be informed well in advance of the new date. Suffice to say it won't 
be in November.

Part of the reasoning is that our constitution has been examined by the 
Department of Commerce and, although they are generally happy with it, they 
have highlighted certain points that technically do not conform with the 
Associations Incorporation Act 1987. Consequently, they have 'strongly 
recommended' that we amend our constitution to reflect the Act. These changes 
are not major but are important.

The postponement of the special general meeting will also allow these special 
resolutions to be incorporated into the meeting and voted on as well.

The committee apologises for any inconvenience that may be caused but feel that 
the postponement is the appropriate thing to do.

Regards,

Pete Smith
On behalf of the WAMUG Committee.

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WAMUG Meeting Reminder: This Tuesday 2 October 2012 (Please Do Not Reply)

[Pete Smith]

G'day all WAMUGGERs.

Have you set your iCals for next Tuesday? Yes, the October monthly meeting is 
just around the corner.

Tuesday 2 October, 2012.

This month we're talking about Fission and Only2clicks.

See the website for full details.
http://www.wamug.org.au/meetings/.

Don't forget - the special general meeting has been cancelled.

(Details are subject to change without notice)

Location: FutureSphere, Level 1 Building L;  Christ Church Grammar School, 
Queenslea Drive Claremont.
Time:   7.30pm - 9.00pm
Cost: $5

Visit 
http://www.ccgs.wa.edu.au/atccgs/important-files-store/map-web2010-2.png to 
view a detailed map.
The FutureSphere is building L in the middle along Queenslea Drive [Grid ref: 
G9]
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See you there.

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WAMUG Meeting Final Reminder: This Tuesday 2 October 2012 (Please Do Not Reply)

[Pete Smith]

G'day all WAMUGGERs.

Have you set your iCals for tomorrow, Tuesday 2 October, 2012? Yes, the October 
monthly meeting is here.

This month we're talking about Fission and Only2clicks.

See the website for full details.
http://www.wamug.org.au/meetings/.

Don't forget - the special general meeting has been cancelled.

(Details are subject to change without notice)

Location: FutureSphere, Level 1 Building L;  Christ Church Grammar School, 
Queenslea Drive Claremont.
Time:   7.30pm - 9.00pm
Cost: $5

Visit 
http://www.ccgs.wa.edu.au/atccgs/important-files-store/map-web2010-2.png to 
view a detailed map.
The FutureSphere is building L in the middle along Queenslea Drive [Grid ref: 
G9]
Streetsmart map ref: 371 A 10 (Queenslea Drive comes off Stirling Hwy and is 
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See you there.

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Mail Time Out By 1 Hour

[Pete Smith]

Here's an interesting thing.

Anyone else getting this?

I was just looking at Daniel's post when I became aware that in my mail box, it 
says that his email was received at 15.30. Yet my iMac clock reads 14.56 as I 
type. Also Daniel's email says it was sent at 2.30.16 PM AWST. I'm using Apple 
Mail and this has only started today.

I've checked another email I received earlier and the same applies. I know 
Apple stuff is good, but this is pushing it a bit!!:)

I assume it is something with the provider rather than Mail. I've sent them a 
query so we'll see what happens. I'm with Internode and very happy with them. 
However, their feedback emails are only monitored Monday to Friday normal 
business times.

Daylight saving has started over there today (silly sods!!), so they've 
probably cocked up the WA time.

I'll keep you posted.

Pete Smith

iMac 2.8 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
4GB 800 MHz DDR2 SDRAM
750GB Hdrive OS X 10.6.8

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WAMUG Meeting Reminder: Today, Tuesday 6 November 2012 (Please Do Not Reply)

[Pete Smith]

G'day all WAMUGGERs.

I'm on holidays and so relaxed (sort of) that I missed my iCal reminder for 
this month's WAMUG meeting. 

Yes, once again that special Tuesday in November where the whole nation stops 
and we have our monthly meeting is here again. Today, 6 November 2012.

This month we're discussing Life made easier with Apple. We're looking at 
different apps that people use that help them in any particular way.

(Details are subject to change without notice)

Location: FutureSphere, Level 1 Building L;  Christ Church Grammar School, 
Queenslea Drive Claremont.
Time:   7.30pm - 9.00pm
Cost: $5

Visit 
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The FutureSphere is building L in the middle along Queenslea Drive [Grid ref: 
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Streetsmart map ref: 371 A 10 (Queenslea Drive comes off Stirling Hwy and is 
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See you there.

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WAMUG Meeting Final Reminder: This Tuesday 4 December 2012 (Please Do Not Reply)

[Pete Smith]

G'day all WAMUGGERs.

Well, another year is nearly over and there is only one monthly meeting left. 
Yes, tomorrow, Tuesday 4 December 2012 is our last meeting for the year.

This month we're looking at Parralels for Mac and having a chuckle at Windows 8 
running on it.

Also, don't forget that there will be some prizes up for grabs thanks to Daniel 
from MacWizardry. 

See the website for full details.
http://www.wamug.org.au/meetings/.

(Details are subject to change without notice)

Location: FutureSphere, Level 1 Building L;  Christ Church Grammar School, 
Queenslea Drive Claremont.
Time:   7.30pm - 9.00pm
Cost: $5

Visit 
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The FutureSphere is building L in the middle along Queenslea Drive [Grid ref: 
G9]
Streetsmart map ref: 371 A 10 (Queenslea Drive comes off Stirling Hwy and is 
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See you there.

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WAMUG Meeting Reminder: This Tuesday 7 December 2010 (Please Do Not Reply)

[Pete Smith]

G'day again all WAMUGGERS

Christmas is fast approaching but not as fast as the next WAMUG monthly 
meeting. So, if you haven't already done it, put next Tuesday, 7 December 2010 
in your iCal.

We'll start with the usual questions and answers followed by a quick break to 
get a cuppa and a biscuit so we can sit back and enjoy the presentation.

This meeting, being the last of the year, we have a special presentation for 
you from a special guest presenter - David Johnson.

David will talk to us about the process of creating and publishing software for 
the iPhone and the iPad. He is a published iPhone programmer. So if you want to 
learn more about how to create and publish iPhone/iPad software, or you're just 
curious about what's involved, then come on down to the last WAMUG meeting for 
the year. If you know someone who may be interested, bring them along too.

If you have ever just thought about creating an app, all the tools you need to 
get started are available to you for free, and are either readily installable 
on your computer or downloadable from Apple's website. Come along and find out 
how or just find out what sort of work went into the apps you've already got.

So pack up your questions, grab your $5 and head on down to the FutureSphere.

(By the way - don't forget the annual barbecue. See separate notice)

(Details are subject to change without notice)

Location: FutureSphere, Level 1 Building L;  Christ Church Grammar School, 
Queenslea Drive Claremont.
Time:   7.30pm - 9.00pm
Cost: $5

Visit 
http://www.ccgs.wa.edu.au/atccgs/important-files-store/map-web2010-2.png to 
view a detailed map.
The FutureSphere is building L in the middle along Queenslea Drive [Grid ref: 
G9]
Streetsmart map ref: 371 A 10 (Queenslea Drive comes off Stirling Hwy and is 
opposite Stirling Rd. The school is next to Bethesda Hospital.)

See you there.

Pete Smith

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Annual WAMUG Christmas Barbecue: 12 December 2010: Reminder 1

[Pete Smith]

G'day again WAMUGGERS.

Just a reminder: don't forget to plug this into your iCal.

The Annual WAMUG Christmas Barbecue will be held at 12:00 noon on Sunday, 12th 
December 2009 in the grounds of the old Heathcote Hospital, Applecross.

Click the following link to locate the venue in Google Maps:

http://maps.google.com.au/maps?f=qhl=engeocode=q=heathcote+hospital+applecrosssll=-25.335448,135.745076sspn=63.276794,93.164063ie=UTF8ll=-32.006366,115.848513spn=0.015121,0.022745z=16

Where will we be?

If you select the 'Earth' view and zoom in so that the old hospital is very 
clear, you'll see the car park roundabout (brown) with grey car parking off to 
the right and, more importantly, a light coloured footpath heading off to the 
right and circling around the whole hospital. If you set off to the right along 
that path, you'll come to where we were last year just under the trees next to 
the first building (the long skinny one with the three bits jutting out). 
Barring unforeseen circumstances, that's where we'll be.

Considering last year was a scorcher, it's a top spot.

Streetsmart map ref: 402 D4

All offers of help with the preparation will be most welcome.

All meat, condiments and soft drinks will be provided, but please let us know 
by next Tuesday, 7 December if you intend to come along so we can get an idea 
of numbers. This will help immensely in estimating quantities. Entry is free to 
all WAMUG members, but a gold-coin donation by non-members would be welcome.

Just reply to this email if you intend coming.

Regards,

Pete Smith









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Annual WAMUG Christmas Barbecue: Date - Year Amendment 12 December 2010

[Pete Smith]

G'day again WAMUGGERS.

Just a reminder: don't forget to plug this into your iCal. (I've adjusted the 
year so that it should plug in correctly. Sorry about that!)

The Annual WAMUG Christmas Barbecue will be held at 12:00 noon on Sunday, 12th 
December 2010 in the grounds of the old Heathcote Hospital, Applecross.

Click the following link to locate the venue in Google Maps:

http://maps.google.com.au/maps?f=qhl=engeocode=q=heathcote+hospital+applecrosssll=-25.335448,135.745076sspn=63.276794,93.164063ie=UTF8ll=-32.006366,115.848513spn=0.015121,0.022745z=16

Where will we be?

If you select the 'Earth' view and zoom in so that the old hospital is very 
clear, you'll see the car park roundabout (brown) with grey car parking off to 
the right and, more importantly, a light coloured footpath heading off to the 
right and circling around the whole hospital. If you set off to the right along 
that path, you'll come to where we were last year just under the trees next to 
the first building (the long skinny one with the three bits jutting out). 
Barring unforeseen circumstances, that's where we'll be.

Considering last year was a scorcher, it's a top spot.

Streetsmart map ref: 402 D4

All offers of help with the preparation will be most welcome.

All meat, condiments and soft drinks will be provided, but please let us know 
by next Tuesday, 7 December if you intend to come along so we can get an idea 
of numbers. This will help immensely in estimating quantities. Entry is free to 
all WAMUG members, but a gold-coin donation by non-members would be welcome.

Just reply to this email if you intend coming.

Regards,

Pete Smith









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WAMUG Meeting (+16Gb iPod Nano give-away) Final Reminder: This Tuesday 7.12.2010 (Please Do Not Reply)

[Pete Smith]

G'day again all WAMUGGERS

Christmas is fast approaching but not as fast as the next WAMUG monthly 
meeting. So, if you haven't already done it, put next Tuesday, 7 December 2010 
in your iCal.

We'll start with the usual questions and answers followed by a quick break to 
get a cuppa and a biscuit so we can sit back and enjoy the presentation.

This meeting, being the last of the year, We have two special 'events'.

1.  We have a special presentation for you from a special guest presenter - 
David Johnson.

David will talk to us about the process of creating and publishing software for 
the iPhone and the iPad. He is a published iPhone programmer. So if you want to 
learn more about how to create and publish iPhone/iPad software, or you're just 
curious about what's involved, then come on down to the last WAMUG meeting for 
the year. If you know someone who may be interested, bring them along too.

If you have ever just thought about creating an app, all the tools you need to 
get started are available to you for free, and are either readily installable 
on your computer or downloadable from Apple's website. Come along and find out 
how or just find out what sort of work went into the apps you've already got.

2. This being the last meeting of 2010, there is a brand new 16GB iPod Nano 
silver up for grabs. This is valued at over $200!! So how will it be given away 
I hear you ask? Easy. The name of every person who attends the meeting on 
Tuesday will be put into a hat. After David's presentation, we'll draw a name 
out and the lucky winner can do cartwheels up the aisle and collect their 16GB 
iPod Nano.

As you are aware, it now cost $5 to attend a meeting to cover cost of room 
hire, insurance, etc. If you attend this meeting you'll automatically be put 
into the draw at no extra cost i.e. FREE. 

So pack up your questions, grab your $5 and head on down to the FutureSphere.

(By the way - don't forget the annual barbecue. See the separate notice)

(Details are subject to change without notice)

Location: FutureSphere, Level 1 Building L;  Christ Church Grammar School, 
Queenslea Drive Claremont.
Time:   7.30pm - 9.00pm
Cost: $5

Visit 
http://www.ccgs.wa.edu.au/atccgs/important-files-store/map-web2010-2.png to 
view a detailed map.
The FutureSphere is building L in the middle along Queenslea Drive [Grid ref: 
G9]
Streetsmart map ref: 371 A 10 (Queenslea Drive comes off Stirling Hwy and is 
opposite Stirling Rd. The school is next to Bethesda Hospital.)

See you there.

Pete Smith

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WAMUG Christmas Barbecue: 12 December 2010 Reminder 2

[Pete Smith]

G'day again WAMUGGERS.

Just a reminder: don't forget to plug this into your iCal.

The Annual WAMUG Christmas Barbecue will be held at 12:00 noon on Sunday, 12th 
December 2010 in the grounds of the old Heathcote Hospital, Applecross.

Click the following link to locate the venue in Google Maps:

http://maps.google.com.au/maps?f=qhl=engeocode=q=heathcote+hospital+applecrosssll=-25.335448,135.745076sspn=63.276794,93.164063ie=UTF8ll=-32.006366,115.848513spn=0.015121,0.022745z=16

Where will we be?

If you select the 'Earth' view and zoom in so that the old hospital is very 
clear, you'll see the car park roundabout (brown) with grey car parking off to 
the right and, more importantly, a light coloured footpath heading off to the 
right and circling around the whole hospital. If you set off to the right along 
that path, you'll come to where we were last year just under the trees next to 
the first building (the long skinny one with the three bits jutting out). 
Barring unforeseen circumstances, that's where we'll be.

Considering last year was a scorcher, it's a top spot.

Streetsmart map ref: 402 D4

All offers of help with the preparation will be most welcome.

All meat, condiments and soft drinks will be provided, but please let us know 
by next Tuesday, 7 December if you intend to come along so we can get an idea 
of numbers. This will help immensely in estimating quantities. Entry is free to 
all WAMUG members, but a gold-coin donation by non-members would be welcome.

Just reply to this email if you intend coming.

Regards,

Pete Smith









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Re: Deleting Mail from the Server

[Pete Smith]

On 07/12/2010, at 12:35 PM, Diana  Graham Stevens wrote:

 
 Hello again
 
 After over 14 years using Eudora I am gradually learning to use Mail.  I 
 liked Eudora but it  has become too antiquated (like me).
 
 I had Eudora set to remove the messages automatically from the Server but I 
 can't find out how to do this in Mail. I have deleted messages and emptied 
 the Trash but they are all still on the Server.
 
 Surely I don't have to select  delete them via Web Mail.
 
 Help please.
 
 Best wishes from Diana
 
 
 
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G'day Diana.

Mine is set up to delete from the server after one day.

Go to Mail - Preferences - Accounts.

Select the appropriate account and go to the Advanced tab (3rd one [Account 
Info - Mailbox Behaviours - Advanced])

Tick the box remove copy from server after retrieving a message: and then 
select the period from the choice box thingy immediately below.

Hope this helps,

Regards,

Pete Smith

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Re: Dragon dictate for iPhone n iPad

[Pete Smith]

Thanks also Brian.

Took advantage and downloaded both.

However, I've not accepted the conditions as of yet as when reading them (for 
Australia), I see that Nuance will collect all names from my address book as 
default, although I can opt out of that, and also everything I dictate which I 
can't opt out of. I'm always wary when I don't have options about the 
collection of my data. They say that it is so that they can continually improve 
the product.

Whilst I believe them and their privacy conditions, I also noticed that they 
can pass the info on to any of their affiliates or anyone who buys the company. 
I don't really expect any issues but I'll have to think about it and 'psych' 
myself up to accept their conditions.

I was also thinking of buying their product for the iMac but if they're going 
to do the same with that, I'll go without.

Thanks again anyway. At least I have them now and the option to use for free!

Pete Smith

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4GB 800 MHz DDR2 SDRAM
750GB Hdrive OS X 10.6.2

On 10/12/2010, at 14:33 PM, cm wrote:

 
 Thanks Brian! I didn't even know Dragon Dictate was available in Australia, 
 let alone free. I have happily grabbed a copy.
 
 Cheers,
 Carlo
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 10/12/2010, at 13:42, Brian Risbey risb...@bigpond.com wrote:
 
 
 http://www.dragonmobileaustralia.com.au/
 
 still should be free for a while, 
 
 Brian
 
 
 
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Merry Christmas from WAMUG Committee

[Pete Smith]

To all WAMUGGERS.

The WAMUG committee would like to wish you all a very happy Christmas and New 
Year.

We hope you all have a safe and festive time and may 2011 bring you joy and 
fulfilment - and plenty of mac stuff!!

Best wishes,

The WAMUG Committee.

P.S. Don't forget - there's no monthly meeting in January - see you 1 February 
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Re: Word 2011 for Macintosh

[Pete Smith]

G'day all.

I haven't moved from Office 2008 to 2011 so  I'm unaware of what problems there 
are.

We use only MS Office at work (2003!!!) and I have found heaps of help from 
Microsoft MVP (Most Valuable Professionals) sites. The following may help but I 
actually haven't used this specific site before. (I've learnt a lot of my Word 
stuff from Shauna Kelly at http://www.ShaunaKelly.com)

1.  http://word.mvps.org/Mac/WordMacHome.html

2. http://www.mvps.org/links.html  This is a link to virtually all MVPs.

3. http://www.agentjim.com/MVP/welcome.htm (not there is l at the end of 
address)

MVPs are generally volunteers, not Microsoft employed.

Anyway, it may help, or it may not in the current circumstances. I would 
recommend exploring them, though, for specific ways to do certain things: e.g. 
ListBullets that you make up and they wont change later on!

Hope this helps

Merry Christmas
Pete Smith

iMac 2.8 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
4GB 800 MHz DDR2 SDRAM
750GB Hdrive OS X 10.6.2

On 24/12/2010, at 13:10 PM, John Daniels wrote:

 
 Hi folks
 I downloaded Bean which is free and performs all that I need.
 Cheers
 John
 On 24/12/2010, at 12:49 PM, Bill Parker wrote:
 
 
 Thansk Mike,
 
 
 Confirming what I have found as well.
 
 
 Bill
 On 24/12/2010, at 12:43 PM, Michael Hawkins wrote:
 
 
 Hi Bill,
 
 I recently down-graded from Office 2004 to Office 2011, and I'm pulling my
 hair out in frustration. It is so cumbersome, so bureaucratic and help is
 so unavailable.
 
 I've ordered a book from bookdepositary.co.uk, the name of which escapes
 me but it's the only one available to buy and it won't be published until
 January.
 
 
 Regards and Merry Christmas,
 
 Michael Hawkins.
 
 On 24/12/10 11:36 AM, Bill Parker re...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 
 I have been trying without success to find a decent help site for Word
 2011.   Mactopia is poor compared to its counterpart for PC.
 
 
 Any ideas?
 
 
 Bill
 
 
 
 Dr Bill Parker
 ³The greatest enemy of the truth is not the lie  deliberate,
 contrived, and dishonest  but the myth  persistent, pervasive, and
 unrealistic.²
 John F. Kennedy
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: 10.6.6 available Mac App store now open

[Pete Smith]

Thanks Warren.

I'm doing the combo update download now also.

For those interested, the combo update is 1 GB in size!

http://support.apple.com/downloads/#macosx106

Regards,

Pete Smith

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On 06/01/2011, at 22:08 PM, Warren Jones wrote:

 
 downloading now
 
 
 
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Re: 10.6.6 available Mac App store now open

[Pete Smith]

G'day all.

The Apple store in Australia does pay GST.

From their terms and conditions:

8. GST 

Apple Store purchases will include GST. If you phone in your order, the Apple 
Specialist will provide the final dollar total of your order including GST and 
any applicable shipping charges at the time you place your order. The invoice 
Apple emails or posts to you will include GST.


Having read a bit about the big stores in Australia and Gerry Harvey and their 
complaints about non-GST-paying internet stores, my understanding of the 
situation as a whole is that their complaint is the overseas internet stores 
don't pay or charge the GST for goods under $1,000.

However, if a store sets up an internet store in Australia and sells to people 
within Australia, then GST applies across the board as per a physical walk-in 
store.

The Australian Apple store has an Australia address in Sydney and also an 
Australian 13 phone no. Which also, I assume, means staff (at a different 
pay to staff in the American store I would think).

I assume that Apple sets up its internet stores in various countries, including 
Australia, as it must make it easier to display local prices and, considering 
they include free shipping, take shipping costs into account when setting the 
local country price structures up. However, local taxes apply and in our case, 
it's 10% GST. The Australian store also has to comply with the Trade Practices 
Act 1974 and other applicable Australian consumer protection laws and 
regulations and any associated costs.

I don't think it matters where the actual download comes from, it's where it is 
sold from.

Regards

Pete Smith

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4GB 800 MHz DDR2 SDRAM
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On 07/01/2011, at 16:25 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:

 Hi Alex,
 
 I understand where you are coming from and your concern. My reply was in 
 reference to the link you supplied which referred to iTunes users fight back 
 against inflated music prices  how to get around this by creating a US 
 iTunes Account.
 
 Hugh Griffiths reply touched on 'market economics'.
 There is a markup for the cost of business in each country.
 
 I agree, Aperture is an Apple Software product. None of the prices on the US 
 App Store include sales tax. The US does not have a uniform federal VAT. The 
 sales taxes is different in every state and sometimes city jurisdiction.
 
 AFAIK Hardware, Software is all subject to GST, so all the prices on the AU 
 App Store include Australia Government 10% GST ( possibly importation fees).
 Correct me if I'm wrong, but that is how I understand it works. I'm certainly 
 no expert on GST  our Government's import duties  Customs Laws.
 
 Regards,
 Ronni
 
  
 On 07/01/2011, at 3:13 PM, Alexander Hartner wrote:
 
 While I don't condone stealing especially from software developers and 
 musicians, I do feel it is not reasonable for Apple to set different prices. 
 Your comments regarding record companies is only partially right, as this 
 thread started with Aperture, which is an Apple product. I fail to see why 
 they should charge Aussies more then our cousins from the other side of the 
 pacific. 
 
 I used to life in the UK and had my account there. Since moving down under I 
 changed my account, but wish I hadn't. 
 
 Just an observation, but generally things seem more expensive here in Oz. 
 Guess you can't have it all. Sunshine, beach, cheap prices  :-)
 
 Alex
 
 On 7 Jan 2011, at 13:37, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 The comments: 
 /Quote:
 Stealing is stealing no matter how easy it is to do or however you 
 rationalise it.
 and:
 the biggest issue is that Apple when they do catch onto you, your credit 
 is gone
 /End Quote
 
 Says it all.
 
 It might 'seem' unfair to people that don't understand (or research) all 
 the factors which cause the price difference.
 The exchange rate is only one factor in the pricing equation.
  
 Also, Apple doesn't set the prices, the record companies do, the Record 
 Companies and Rights Holders in Australia charge iTunes.
 If you want to blame someone blame EMI Australia who sets the prices, not 
 Apple. While your at it, ask the Australian book publishers why electronic 
 books are so much more expensive in Australia than they are overseas and 
 why all titles available on overseas stores aren't available here. 
 
 I'm not about to start a 'Flaming War' as this issue has been discussed 
 before on WAMUG.
 I apologise if my little Rant upsets anyone.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 On 07/01/2011, at 12:28 PM, Alexander Hartner wrote:
 
 There are ways and means :
 
 http://www.news.com.au/technology/itunes-users-fight-back-against-inflated-music-prices/story-e6frfro0-1225982198878
 
 apparently. 
 
 On 7 Jan 2011, at 01:06, Dark1 wrote:
 
 Aperture is a great deal but I can't help but feel a bit disappointed 
 that Aussies are being screwed over a bit.  US on the new store is $79.  
 The price differences from the original Apple store could be justified

Re: Attachments/Displayed

[Pete Smith]

G'day Severin.

I use Windows at work all the time and from memory, when mail appears in 
Outlook with the attachment displayed as part of the mail itself (I presume 
this is what is happening), I just put the cursor on the picture, right click 
and save as. Unfortunately, you can only do 1 at a time but it is saving the 
attachments.

Hope this helps.

Regards,

Pete Smith

iMac 2.8 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
4GB 800 MHz DDR2 SDRAM
750GB Hdrive OS X 10.6.6

On 10/01/2011, at 17:39 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:

 That is useful to know, thanks Chris
 Severin
 
 On 10/01/2011, at 5:00 PM, Chris Griffiths wrote:
 
 Yes, I to have this issue. I zip everything I send to Windows users. That 
 way they get it.
 
 Generally don't have any problems with jpgs, word docs or pdfs.
 
 And it has nothing to do with Send as Window friendly attachment.
 
 Hope this helps.
 
 Chris Griffiths
 
 On 10/01/2011, at 4:55 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:
 
 When sending emails with images as attachments from Mail to Windows users, 
 there is a complaint that the images display but are not seen as saveable 
 as attachments should be.   There is no problem with Mail to Mail emails 
 and I can see nothing relevant in Mail settings.  
 Has anyone any words of wisdom on this, please.  
 Severin Crisp
 
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WAMUG Meeting Reminder: This Tuesday 1 February 2011 (Please Do Not Reply)

[Pete Smith]

G'day all WAMUGGERS.

All set for another year? Have you set up your iCal to tell when all the 
monthly meetings are? I have and it tells me that the first WAMUG monthly 
meeting is next Tuesday, 1st February 2011.

We'll start, as usual, with the question and answer session and then we'll have 
a quick break to get a cuppa and a biscuit to enjoy with the presentations.

This coming month we'll have, in the order of one of them before the other:

☠ Running Windows within Apple; and
✔ The new App store for Mac.

So pack up your questions, grab your $5 and head on down to the FutureSphere.

(Details are subject to change without notice)

***Guess what?? These meeting details are now also on the WAMUG website and 
will be regularly updated from now on. Read the post 'New Monthly Meetings 
Page' to see what's happening.***

Advanced Notification: The Annual General Meeting will be held immediately 
before the March monthly meeting. Further details will be put on the website 
under the Monthly Meetings page closer to the date.

Location: FutureSphere, Level 1 Building L;  Christ Church Grammar School, 
Queenslea Drive Claremont.
Time:   7.30pm - 9.00pm
Cost: $5

Visit 
http://www.ccgs.wa.edu.au/atccgs/important-files-store/map-web2010-2.png to 
view a detailed map.
The FutureSphere is building L in the middle along Queenslea Drive [Grid ref: 
G9]
Streetsmart map ref: 371 A 10 (Queenslea Drive comes off Stirling Hwy and is 
opposite Stirling Rd. The school is next to Bethesda Hospital.)

See you there.

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Re: info

[Pete Smith]

G'day Malcolm.

I'm not aware of any specific legislation that covers your query. I think the 
bolded info is just a disclaimer.

The following may assist from Connecting Up Australia (I have no knowledge of 
the organisation, I just googled):

**
What Are Email Disclaimers?

Email disclaimers are statements that are added to emails to disclaim 
liability. The statements are usually of a legal character, but can also be 
used for marketing purposes.

There are three main reasons why you might decide to add disclaimers to your 
emails: legal protection, regulatory compliance and marketing purposes.

Legal Protection

If you were to be so unlucky to be sued for the contents of an email, it is not 
certain whether an email disclaimer will protect you from liability in a court 
of law. However, it can help your case and, in some situations, might exempt 
you from liability. More importantly, it may well prevent the actual occurrence 
of lawsuits against your organization, since the mere presence of the statement 
might deter most persons from seeking legal compensation from your 
organization. Besides avoiding liability, disclaimers are also used to prevent 
persons from unlawfully forwarding or copying confidential emails. Again, the 
presence of the notice will deter most persons from doing this. Therefore, the 
use of disclaimers is always recommended.

Disclaimers can help protect against six types of legal threats:

.
Transmission of viruses.

If an employee sends or forwards an email that contains a virus, your 
organization can be sued for this. Apart from implementing a good virus checker 
that blocks viruses entering and leaving the organization via email, you can 
also warn in your disclaimer that the email could possibly contain viruses and 
that the receiver is responsible for checking and deleting viruses.




From their About Us Page:

Connecting Up Australia is a nonprofit organisation that works to strengthen 
the nonprofit and community sector in Australia by providing a variety of 
information, products, resources and programs. Our services are available to 
approximately 600,000 organisations across the nation. We also help to develop 
relationships with business, community and government sectors for capacity 
development.

The info came from 
http://www.connectingup.org/ict-recourses/internet-and-web/email-disclaimers-to-protect-your-organization
**

I would think that if a company was taking all precautions but a virus still 
got through and harmed someone else via email, it may be difficult to prosecute 
them. However, if they took no precautions then it may be easier. At the end of 
the day, the receiver still has some responsibility, I feel. It would be 
interesting to know if there is any actual statute law in relation to it but 
I'd bet a penny to a pound that there isn't.

Regards,

Pete Smith






On 30/01/2011, at 13:13 PM, McCallum Malcolm wrote:

  I have just received an email with this at the bottom of the correspondence 
 .As  a matter of interest is the info  in bold true  legally?
 
 It is the recipients' responsibility to examine this email and any 
 attachments for viruses.
  
 This email and any attachments, and the information contained therein, are 
 the subject of copyright, are confidential and intended only for use by named 
 addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, copying 
 or use of any of the information is unauthorised. Any copyright or 
 confidentiality is not waived or otherwise lost as a result of this email 
 being sent to you in error. If you have received this message in error, 
 please immediately telephone or email us and delete all copies from your 
 computer system.
 
 
 
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WAMUG Meeting Final Reminder: This Tuesday 1 February 2011 (Please Do Not Reply)

[Pete Smith]

G'day all WAMUGGERS.

All set for another year? Have you set up your iCal to tell when all the 
monthly meetings are? I have and it tells me that the first WAMUG monthly 
meeting is this Tuesday, 1st February 2011.

We'll start, as usual, with the question and answer session and then we'll have 
a quick break to get a cuppa and a biscuit to enjoy with the presentations.

This coming month we'll have, in the order of one of them before the other:

☠ Running Windows within Apple; and
✔ The new App store for Mac.

So pack up your questions, grab your $5 and head on down to the FutureSphere.

(Details are subject to change without notice)

***Guess what?? These meeting details are now also on the WAMUG website and 
will be regularly updated from now on. Read the post 'New Monthly Meetings 
Page' to see what's happening.***

Advanced Notification: The Annual General Meeting will be held immediately 
before the March monthly meeting. Further details will be put on the website 
under the Monthly Meetings page closer to the date.

Location: FutureSphere, Level 1 Building L;  Christ Church Grammar School, 
Queenslea Drive Claremont.
Time:   7.30pm - 9.00pm
Cost: $5

Visit 
http://www.ccgs.wa.edu.au/atccgs/important-files-store/map-web2010-2.png to 
view a detailed map.
The FutureSphere is building L in the middle along Queenslea Drive [Grid ref: 
G9]
Streetsmart map ref: 371 A 10 (Queenslea Drive comes off Stirling Hwy and is 
opposite Stirling Rd. The school is next to Bethesda Hospital.)

See you there.

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Re: Waxing Lyrical

[Pete Smith]

G'day Mike.

I think it's disappeared!

I also downloaded it and have been using it to get my lyrics. I have just 
checked the App Store and it's not there. Also, interestingly, it not longer 
shows up in my 'Purchases' on the store.

I tried looking through the apps and typing Lyrica and Lyr in the search 
panel. All to no avail. It looks like it has been removed but I have no idea 
why.

Regards,

Pete Smith

iMac 2.8 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
4GB 800 MHz DDR2 SDRAM
750GB Hdrive OS X 10.6.6

On 10/02/2011, at 12:29 PM, Mike Armson wrote:

 
 
 From: cm cm200...@gmail.com
 Reply-To: WAMUG List wamug@wamug.org.au
 Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 16:20:23 +0800
 To: WAMUG List wamug@wamug.org.au
 Subject: Waxing Lyrical
 
 Hi Muggers,
 
 I just wanted to wax lyrical about the Lyrica application available from 
 the Map App Store. (I have no association with the company and do not 
 benefit from their sales.)
 
 G'Day Carlo
 
App Store give lots of references to 'lyric' apps,but none to Lyrica.
Do you have their URL?
 Regards
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Re: Waxing Lyrical

[Pete Smith]

That's intriguing Neil.

I got my copy by the clicking on the APP icon in the dock. Presumably that 
took me to the Australian store. (I got it on 1 Feb straight after the meeting) 
I know of others who got it even later. I wonder why they took it off the 
Aussie store?

Oh well, it's working and I'm happy with it. Mind you, I've picked up some 
doozie lyrics. The Addams Family came back with completely different and 
irrelevant lyrics, a couple have come back with what look like web addresses 
and one came back with disgusting lyrics that I've never even heard of before 
and definitely were not for the song playing!! However, they came back 
lightningly fast. Overall, though, I'm quite happy with it. Especially as you 
can get a report of the songs it got lyrics for and those it didn't and save it 
as text file (only when hunting playlists).

Regards,

Pete Smith

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4GB 800 MHz DDR2 SDRAM
750GB Hdrive OS X 10.6.6

On 10/02/2011, at 13:20 PM, Neil Houghton wrote:

 Hey mike,
 
 Have you not heard of Google?!
 
 Put in “Lyrica app” and it gives about 116 million hits – of which almost all 
 the first page is relevant (reviews and more) including:
 
 
 The top hit: Mac App Store Preview: Lyrica 
 http://www.macstories.net/mac/mac-app-store-preview-lyrica/
 The actual developers site: http://lyricsapp.net/
 
 
 Maybe even easier than sending the question to WAMUG ;o)
 
 
 However, the reason you can’t find it on the App store is probably because it 
 is only currently available on the US app store – when you mouse over the 
 “Available on the App Store” link on the developers website it says 
 “Available on the US App Store” and takes you here;
 
 http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewSoftware?id=333259751mt=8ign-mpt=uo%3D6
 
 
 Trying to view it in iTunes tells you “The item you’ve requested is not 
 currently available in the Australian Store”
 
 
 So, at the minute, you would need to sign in with a US itunes account to 
 download it.
 
 
 Cheers
 
 
 
 
 Neil
 -- 
 Neil R. Houghton
 Albany, Western Australia
 Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
 Email: n...@possumology.com
 
 
 
 
 on 10/2/11 12:29 PM, Mike Armson at marm...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 
 
 From:  cm cm200...@gmail.com
 Reply-To:  WAMUG List wamug@wamug.org.au
 Date:  Sat, 5 Feb 2011 16:20:23 +0800
 To:  WAMUG List wamug@wamug.org.au
 Subject:  Waxing Lyrical
 
 Hi Muggers,
 
 I just wanted to wax lyrical about the Lyrica application available from 
 the Map App Store. (I have no association with the company and do not 
 benefit from their sales.)
 
 G'Day Carlo
   App Store give lots of references to 'lyric' apps,but none to Lyrica.
Do you have their URL?
 Regards
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Protective Plastic Case for 3.5 SATA HDD

[Pete Smith]

G'day all.

This may interest any of you who have invested or are going to invest in bare 
external hard disks for use in devices such as the Voyager Q.

 I have had three on the go plus some more I've just bought ($63 for 1TB from 
Austin computers online) and have just been storing them in the original 
packaging. This was not the best solution I felt so I did a bit of interwebby 
research and eventually came across the following:

http://www.dealextreme.com/p/protective-plastic-case-for-3-5-sata-hdd-translucent-25631

I ordered some and they turned up yesterday. My verdict? Brilliant!

The drives fit firmly and snuggly in the cases and the top is easy to open and 
shut. The drives don't just 'fall' in or out but need to be deliberately pushed 
in and pulled out but it can be done with two fingers grasping each side 
easily. Now my drives can be stored upright like books and the cases can be 
easily labelled. You can also store them laying down if you want, or on the 
side if you choose.

The cases are from the USA and cost $US 3.62 ($AUD3.61 today) but get a bit 
cheaper if you order more. I ordered 15, not only for myself, and each case 
worked out at $AUD 2.99 each delivered to my front door.

For those interested, I ordered them on 20 January 2011, they shipped on 27 
January and were delivered yesterday, 16 February.

Hope this helps someone.

Regards,

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WAMUG ***AGM*** Reminder: Tuesday 1 March 2011 (Please Do Not Reply)

[Pete Smith]

G'day all.

Hope you've set your iCals for the WAMUG Annual General Meeting next Tuesday, 1 
March 2011.

Go to the website for full details.
http://www.wamug.org.au/meetings/.

The monthly meeting will follow after.

See you there

Regards,

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WAMUG ***AGM*** Final Reminder: This Tuesday 1 March 2011 (Please Do Not Reply)

[Pete Smith]

G'day all.

Hope you've set your iCals for the WAMUG Annual General Meeting next Tuesday, 1 
March 2011.

Go to the website for full details.
http://www.wamug.org.au/meetings/.

The monthly meeting will follow after.

See you there

Regards,

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Bento 4

[Pete Smith]

G'day all.

Bento 4 has been released. AUD$53.64 for download or box from Filemaker. 
Automatic $25 off if download update version (from 1, 2 or 3) [AUD$30.91 - they 
must be using American maths!!!]

https://store.filemaker.com.au/product/viewfamily/family/BEN

Also iPhone app has been updated.

However, if you, like me, are still using Bento 2 DO NOT DOWNLOAD the app 
update as it will not sync. Another app update will be coming shortly to allow 
syncing with 2.

It also has trouble opening the updated app. I tried four times before it 
finally opened although it has opened normally since. It may be that it took a 
long time to sort itself out as it looks different. My libraries now show icons 
of the media images (eg book covers) at each entry that has an image and I do 
have a lot of images. There is now three display fields: primary, secondary and 
media or checkbox. I thought I'd let it go (in opening) for some time but maybe 
I was more impatient than I thought.

What really cheesed me off, though, was the fact that the one line warning 
about not downloading if wanting to sync with Bento 2 is hidden at the bottom 
of the What's New panel on the app on the store. If you just open iTunes and 
check your app folder and it tells you have a number of updates, there is no 
warning that I saw about not downloading the Bento update. I eventually had to 
go to the store, select and open the Bento app and then click the more button 
to see what they had written. 

I do intend to get Bento 4 but at a time of my choosing so now I can't sync the 
most used app on my iPhone.

Damned inconsiderate of them.

Regards,

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WAMUG Meeting Time Change (Please Do Not Reply)

[Pete Smith]

G'day all WAMUGGERS.

This is just a quick note to let everyone know that, following discussions at 
the last two meetings, the start time to future monthly meetings has been 
changed.

Future meetings will now start a half earlier at 7pm.

The web site has full details of upcoming meetings.

http://www.wamug.org.au/meetings/

The usual reminders will sent out next week.

See you there.

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Re: Bento 4

[Pete Smith]

Thanks Carlo.

I still had the app in the trash and have moved it to another folder on the mac 
for storage just in case. As I can still use both the iMac version and the 
iPhone app (just not sync) I will put up with the inconvenience for a little 
while. Either I'll update to Bento 4 before; or the other app update will come 
out and hopefully fix it.

I dare say I'll stop my little personal protest soon and buy the update. I've 
been hanging out for it.

Regards,

Pete Smith






On 18/03/2011, at 09:29 AM, cm wrote:

 Hi Pete,
 
 There are still two (long shot) possible ways that you can revert to the 
 older version of the Bento app.
 
 1) When you update any app you will find the old version in the Trash Can. If 
 you have not yet emptied the trash you can revert from this copy. 
 
 2) If like some other MUGgers you have more than one portable device — say an 
 iPhone and an iPad — and have not yet updated the app on both you can revert 
 to the older version from the not yet updated device. 
 
 If either of the above apply, let me know and I will send detailed 
 instructions. 
 
 Cheers,
 Carlo
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 18/03/2011, at 0:51, Pete Smith smudd...@internode.on.net wrote:
 
 G'day all.
 
 Bento 4 has been released. AUD$53.64 for download or box from Filemaker. 
 Automatic $25 off if download update version (from 1, 2 or 3) [AUD$30.91 - 
 they must be using American maths!!!]
 
 https://store.filemaker.com.au/product/viewfamily/family/BEN
 
 Also iPhone app has been updated.
 
 However, if you, like me, are still using Bento 2 DO NOT DOWNLOAD the app 
 update as it will not sync. Another app update will be coming shortly to 
 allow syncing with 2.
 
 It also has trouble opening the updated app. I tried four times before it 
 finally opened although it has opened normally since. It may be that it took 
 a long time to sort itself out as it looks different. My libraries now show 
 icons of the media images (eg book covers) at each entry that has an image 
 and I do have a lot of images. There is now three display fields: primary, 
 secondary and media or checkbox. I thought I'd let it go (in opening) for 
 some time but maybe I was more impatient than I thought.
 
 What really cheesed me off, though, was the fact that the one line warning 
 about not downloading if wanting to sync with Bento 2 is hidden at the 
 bottom of the What's New panel on the app on the store. If you just open 
 iTunes and check your app folder and it tells you have a number of updates, 
 there is no warning that I saw about not downloading the Bento update. I 
 eventually had to go to the store, select and open the Bento app and then 
 click the more button to see what they had written. 
 
 I do intend to get Bento 4 but at a time of my choosing so now I can't sync 
 the most used app on my iPhone.
 
 Damned inconsiderate of them.
 
 Regards,
 
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Re: Safe to Upgrade ? IOS 4.3

[Pete Smith]

G'day Blitto

I upgraded my 3G iPhone with no problems. Even tried my hotspot by turning off 
my modem and connected my iMac to the iPhone via Bluetooth. To be honest, I'm 
not sure what happened. I did a test email and it kept coming up saying I 
wasn't connected yet the iPhone  iMac said they were connected! When I finally 
gave up and disconnected, the email went off!! I've got no idea what happened. 
I was just testing/playing to see if it work.

My iPhone, however, has given me no problems since upgrading. My only problem 
is with the Bento app which I downloaded but that has absolutely nothing to do 
with 4.3.

Hope this helps.

Regards,

Pete Smith

iMac 2.8 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
4GB 800 MHz DDR2 SDRAM
750GB Hdrive OS X 10.6.6

On 20/03/2011, at 12:35 PM, Rod Blitvich wrote:

 Hi WAMUGers
 Please can you tell me is it safe to upgrade my phone to 4.3?
 or wait a few more days?
 ta
 Blitto
 
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Re: reverting to older version of iPhone app (was Bento 4)

[Pete Smith]

Thanks Carlo.

I decided to revert and followed your instructions with no problems except step 
3.

I deleted both apps from iTunes and the iPhone, confirming both deletes. When I 
started step 3 to sync the iPhone minus Bento, up popped a message box saying 
that the iPhone had downloaded items that were no longer on iTunes and did I 
want to bring them across? I can't remember exactly what it said; sorry; but 
that was the gist of it. As I knew I hadn't downloaded any thing I rejected it.

I cancelled the sync using the slider on the iPhone, waited what seemed like 
ages whilst iTunes still indicated it was backing up my iPhone. When it finally 
said it was safe to disconnect I then dragged the old app from finder into the 
iTunes Library and re-synced the iPhone.

I then opened Bento on both devices and had to set up from anew again and sync 
which took about 37mins but now all is well and my latest book additions are on 
my iPhone so I wont double up.

As an afterthought - I have just realised that I had, in fact, updated some 
data on an app (bus timetables) via 3G on Friday so maybe that was what the 
message was about?  But that doesn't make sense as I hadn't synced since then 
anyway. I've just done another sync and the message didn't come up but the data 
is still on the iPhone anyway. I also checked and compared the app size and 
worked out the content of the Bento app when I synced was 1.45GB!

Many thanks again Carlo.

(PS - I'm already missing the look of the new Bento app. Must upgrade to Bento 
4 soon.)

Pete Smith

iMac 2.8 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
4GB 800 MHz DDR2 SDRAM
750GB Hdrive OS X 10.6.6

On 19/03/2011, at 13:27 PM, cm wrote:

 Hi Pete,
 
 Well done in preserving the file! If the update to the iPhone app was free, 
 you have a painless way to revert to the older version that you just 
 recovered from Trash. It is easy enough so I will detail it here to give you 
 the option. The file you recovered should have a .ipa extension, that 
 presumably stands for iPhone app.
 
 1) Delete the app from your iTunes library -- in iTunes select Apps in the 
 left hand selector panel, find the icon of the app in question in the right 
 hand detail panel, right click or Ctrl-click the icon and select Delete. In 
 the successive pop-ups select Remove and then Move to Trash.
 
 2) Delete the app from your iPhone -- press and hold the App icon until it 
 jiggles, then select the X at the top left of the icon and confirm the delete.
 
 3) You can sync your iPhone now to save any version confusion (I am not sure 
 if this step is necessary)
 
 4) Drag the .ipa file of your old version to the Library pane at the top left 
 of iTunes.
 
 5) Sync your iPhone again to install the old version to the phone.
 
 And that's it. You can then at some future time upgrade again to the newer 
 version of the App, but until you want to do that, avoid selecting the app 
 for upgrade in the app store.
 
 Cheers,
 Carlo
 
 
 
 On 2011-03-19, at 12:54, Pete Smith wrote:
 
 Thanks Carlo.
 
 I still had the app in the trash and have moved it to another folder on the 
 mac for storage just in case. As I can still use both the iMac version and 
 the iPhone app (just not sync) I will put up with the inconvenience for a 
 little while. Either I'll update to Bento 4 before; or the other app update 
 will come out and hopefully fix it.
 
 I dare say I'll stop my little personal protest soon and buy the update. 
 I've been hanging out for it.
 
 Regards,
 
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Re: Membership

[Pete Smith]

Hi Laura.

Without letting too much of the cat out of the bag, I have tried to answer your 
questions as below.

It is planned to let the whole cat out just after the next monthly meeting! 
(Bet that intrigues a few people!!) Oh, and it's got nothing to do with 'Lion', 
just that common saying.

Regards,

Pete Smith


On 25/03/2011, at 11:26 AM, Laura Webb wrote:

 
 
 Good morning all
 
 Could someone please clarify questions about membership.
 
 From my reading of information on the WAMUG web page,  the List is free to 
 all,  but those wishing  to attend monthly meetings, should pay a membership 
 of $30 per year. I presume such membership also gives a right to vote as and 
 when necessary. I have also understood that membership is due per calendar 
 year and generally payable around the time of the AGM.

1.   You are right in that membership does give the right to vote when 
necessary.
  Unfortunately, the constitution puts the subscription year 12 months from 
each member's initial joining. We are hoping to have that changed very soon.
 
 By implication are all those attending monthly meetings presumed to be 
 financial members?

2.   Non-financial members are not actually banned from the meetings. We 
encourage prospective members to come along and have a look before they join. 
(I did for a couple of meetings which is why I joined.)

We are also looking at ways of being able to introduce some 'members only 
extras' that would add value to being a member and, hopefully, encourage others 
to join. Not just at meetings but on the website too.
 
 We regularly see reminders about forthcoming meetings. Why do we never see a 
 reminder that membership is due? Could this not be included with the reminder 
 about the AGM?

3.  Hopefully, point 1 will fix this up and then annual reminders will 
definitely be posted. 
 
 Unable to attend the AGM, I posted a cheque on 3rd March for $30 to the 
 following address as shown on the web page:-
 
 WAMUG Treasurer,  PO Box 514,  WEMBLEY  6913.

4.  I have received the new address today and the website was actually updated 
about an hour ago.
 http://www.wamug.org.au/join/
 
 My cheque has just been returned, the envelope endorsed opened in error. It 
 is good to know that someone was kind enough to return it.
 
 I note that it is now possible to pay by bank transfer, an option that I 
 don't remember being available last year. I shall now use that method but do 
 feel concerned that an incorrect address is being shown on the web page.

5.   The electronic option is indeed a recent addition to the Join page and you 
may have also noticed that we no longer use PayPal/PayMate. From memory, it 
occurred at the end of January this year.

I wont say any more until after the April meeting. All the info will be on the 
website and there will also be a posting about it on the List. There are still 
a few tweaks to be done on the 'cat' but they'll be done by then.
 
 
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WAMUG Meeting SPECIAL Reminder: This Tuesday 5 April 2011

[Pete Smith]

G'day all WAMUGGERS

Have you set your iCal for the April monthly meeting yet? Well you should.

This meeting will be a meeting of special significance because we are proud to 
be able to present Ronni with an Honorary Life Membership Award.

At the recent AGM, the Committee put to the meeting that Ronni (Ronda Brown) be 
awarded an Honorary Life Membership of the WAMUG in “recognition of her 
unceasing and tireless contributions to the body of knowledge which is the 
WAMUG Mailing List”. This was met with an instant, unanimous and enthusiastic 
vote of confirmation.

Consequently, arrangements have been made for Ronni to receive her award 
personally at the April meeting. So come along and show your appreciation in 
person to her.

Also, it's the 10th birthday of Mac OS X (well 24 March actually was) so we'll 
be celebrating in style.

Go to the website for full details.
http://www.wamug.org.au/meetings/

See you there

Regards,

Pete Smith

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Re: WAMUG April meeting

[Pete Smith]

And don't forget the NEW START TIME - half an hour earlier - 7.00pm. 

One doesn't want to be late to such a special occasion.

Regards,

Pete Smith

On 02/04/2011, at 12:25 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:

 
 Sounds like lots of people may be coming,..but be careful...we don't want to
 scare Ronni off,..otherwise she may find some emergency and can't make it
 ;o))
 
 Hehehe :o)
 
 I'll go hide now,...
 
 Kind Regards
 Daniel
 
 
 On 2/4/11 11:17 AM, Pedro pfow...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 I agree,  I have been unable to attend the meetings of late due to work
 commitments but I will
 be making a special effort for this one. (we may need a bigger venue)
 
 cheers
 
 PEDR  
 
 On 02/04/2011, at 10:39 AM, cm wrote:
 
 
 Hi Marlene,
 
 I think that is a great idea. There will likely be a good turn out and we
 will finally get to see other members of the list.
 
 To add to my enthusiasm for the idea, I am slightly face blind and often
 embarrass myself as a result. :-}
 
 Cheers,
 Carlo
 
 
 
 On 2011-04-02, at 07:05, Marlene Oostryck wrote:
 
 
 Hi All
 
 Great news to hear that Ronni will be officially recognised for her amazing
 contribution to WAMUG.
 Could I suggest that name tags are available at the meeting so that we can
 put a face to the name/email address.
 
 Regards
 
 Marlene Oostryck
 
 
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WAMUG Meeting Final SPECIAL Reminder: This Tuesday 5 April 2011 (Please Do Not Reply)

[Pete Smith]

G'day all WAMUGGERS

Have you set your iCal for the April monthly meeting yet? Well you should - and 
don't forget the new start time of 7.00 pm

This meeting will be a meeting of special significance because we are proud to 
be able to present Ronni with an Honorary Life Membership Award.

At the recent AGM, the Committee put to the meeting that Ronni (Ronda Brown) be 
awarded an Honorary Life Membership of the WAMUG in “recognition of her 
unceasing and tireless contributions to the body of knowledge which is the 
WAMUG Mailing List”. This was met with an instant, unanimous and enthusiastic 
vote of confirmation.

Consequently, arrangements have been made for Ronni to receive her award 
personally at the April meeting. So come along and show your appreciation in 
person to her.

Also, it's the 10th birthday of Mac OS X (well 24 March actually was) so we'll 
be celebrating in style.

Go to the website for full details.
http://www.wamug.org.au/meetings/

See you there

Regards,

Pete Smith

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WAMUG Special General Meeting

[Pete Smith]

WAMUG Special General Meeting


Under Rule 5.2 of the WAMUG Constitution, the WAMUG Committee are calling a 
Special General Meeting (SGM) to be held immediately prior to the next monthly 
meeting on 3 May 2011.

At this SGM, the Committee proposes to present 4 amendments to the current 
constitution for consideration.

The proposed amendments are specifically in relation to 1) subscriptions - 
bringing them into line with the calendar year, 2) corporate members - changing 
their ability to be committee members and 3) electing committee members at the 
AGM. There are actually two proposed amendments in relation to corporate 
members but both relate to the same main issue.

A special page has been put up on the web site that details the full proposed 
amendments covering the current clauses, the proposed amended clauses and a 
detailed explanation for each.

A PDF copy of the page can be downloaded from the site (link is at the top of 
the page).

Site Link: http://www.wamug.org.au/amendments-to-constitution/

These proposed amendments have been formulated following various discussions on 
the List over the years.


Voting.

The committee is hoping to finalise voting arrangements in regards to proxy and 
postal voting as its next committee meeting on 19 April 2011.

These will be posted up on both the List and the web site as soon as they are 
finalised.

Voting is open to all life and current financial ordinary members.


Comments.

WAMUG members are encouraged to read the full details on the web site and are 
invited to leave comments about any or all of the proposed amendments.

Comments may be left either on the web site post or on the this List bulletin.


Regards to all.

Pete Smith

On behalf of the WAMUG Committee.



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Re: Blank Worksheet in Excel

[Pete Smith]

G'day Stephen.

I don't believe you can.

In Excel - Preferences - Authoring - General there is the choice of stating how 
many Sheets in new work book. The default is 1. Excel accepts whole numbers 
from 1 - 255. It wont accept 0.

That's from Excel 2008.

Regards,

Pete Smith

On 19/04/2011, at 22:03 PM, Stephen Chape wrote:

 
 Hi there,
 
 Does anyone know how to stop the automatic appearance of a blank worksheet 
 every time Excel is opened ? I searched many help screens in Excel 2008 when 
 I used it but never found any way to turn this off.
 
 I now use MS Office 2011.
 
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WAMUG Special General Meeting (+ Voting Procedures)

[Pete Smith]

G'day all.

The committee has finalised voting procedures for the upcoming special general 
meeting. WAMUG members, both Life and Ordinary, are able to vote by proxy if 
unable to attend the meeting (or if you're not sure you can make it and want to 
make sure your vote counts).

The voting details are now included in the relevant area of this bulletin and 
are also posted up on the WAMUG web site. The Amendments to Constitution page 
has been updated and a link to download the Proxy Form has been added.

WAMUG members are encouraged to read the full details on the web site and are 
invited to leave comments about any or all of the proposed amendments. Comments 
may be left either on the web site post or on this List bulletin.

Regards,

Pete Smith

Begin forwarded message:

 From: Pete Smith smudd...@internode.on.net
 Date: 15 April 2011 8:26:06 PM AWST
 To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au
 Subject: WAMUG Special General Meeting
 Reply-To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au
 
 WAMUG Special General Meeting
 
 
 Under Rule 5.2 of the WAMUG Constitution, the WAMUG Committee are calling a 
 Special General Meeting (SGM) to be held immediately prior to the next 
 monthly meeting on 3 May 2011.
 
 At this SGM, the Committee proposes to present 4 amendments to the current 
 constitution for consideration.
 
 The proposed amendments are specifically in relation to 1) subscriptions - 
 bringing them into line with the calendar year, 2) corporate members - 
 changing their ability to be committee members and 3) electing committee 
 members at the AGM. There are actually two proposed amendments in relation to 
 corporate members but both relate to the same main issue.
 
 A special page has been put up on the web site that details the full proposed 
 amendments covering the current clauses, the proposed amended clauses and a 
 detailed explanation for each.
 
 A PDF copy of the page can be downloaded from the site (link is at the top of 
 the page).
 
 Site Link: http://www.wamug.org.au/amendments-to-constitution/
 
 These proposed amendments have been formulated following various discussions 
 on the List over the years.
 
 
 Voting.
 
Ordinary and Life members of the WAMUG may vote in this special general 
election by either attending the meeting and casting their vote personally or 
by completing the Proxy Form and sending it in.

The proxy form can be found via a link at the top right hand corner on the 
Amendments to Constitution page on the WAMUG web site.

http://www.wamug.org.au/amendments-to-constitution/

Pages one and two of the proxy form contains the four special resolutions in 
numbered order plus details of the time and location of the special general 
meeting.

The third page is the actual proxy form that needs to be completed.

You will need to print the form off and complete it and either;

scan it and email it to pe...@civiltech.com.au

or

post it by mail to : WAMUG Voting Registrar
C/- PO Box 1204
CANNING VALE DC  WA 6970

Either way, the Proxy Form must be received by the WAMUG Voting Registrar by 
12.00pm (noon) on Tuesday 3 May 2011.
 
 
 Comments.
 
 WAMUG members are encouraged to read the full details on the web site and are 
 invited to leave comments about any or all of the proposed amendments.
 
 Comments may be left either on the web site post or on this List bulletin.
 
 
 Regards to all.
 
 Pete Smith
 
 On behalf of the WAMUG Committee.




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WAMUG Special General Meeting Reminder: This Tuesday 3 May 2011 (Please Do Not Reply)

[Pete Smith]

G'day all WAMUGGERS.

Hope you've set your iCals for the WAMUG Special General Meeting  and monthly 
meeting next Tuesday, 3 May 2011?

This special general meeting has been called in regards to proposed amendments 
to the WAMUG constitution. The monthly meeting will follow straight after.

Go to the website for full details.

http://www.wamug.org.au/  for the post on the SGM. Leave a comment if you 
like.

http://www.wamug.org.au/amendments-to-constitution/   to see what the 
proposed amendments actual are, download a copy or download the Proxy Form

http://www.wamug.org.au/meetings/ to see the full meeting details.

Don't forget the meetings now start at 7 pm but still finish at 9 pm.

See you there.

Regards,

Pete Smith

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[P.S. The notes from the April meeting are running very late. They'll be up on 
the website over the weekend, hopefully. I've been having a bit of slow trouble 
accessing the web site.]


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WAMUG Special General Meeting Final Reminder: This Tuesday 3 May 2011 (Please Do Not Reply)

[Pete Smith]

G'day all WAMUGGERS.

Hope you've set your iCals for the WAMUG Special General Meeting  and monthly 
meeting this Tuesday, 3 May 2011!

This special general meeting has been called in regards to proposed amendments 
to the WAMUG constitution. The monthly meeting will follow straight after.

Go to the website for full details.

http://www.wamug.org.au/  for the post on the SGM. Leave a comment if you 
like.

http://www.wamug.org.au/amendments-to-constitution/   to see what the 
proposed amendments actual are, download a copy or download the Proxy Form.  
Please remember, though, that the Proxy Form must be received by the WAMUG 
Voting Registrar by 12.00pm (noon) on Tuesday 3 May 2011.

http://www.wamug.org.au/meetings/ to see the full meeting details.

Don't forget the meetings now start at 7 pm but still finish at 9 pm.

See you there.

Regards,

Pete Smith

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[P.S. The notes from the April meeting are finally up. With Ronni's kind 
permission, I have attached a transcript of her short acceptance speech to the 
end of the notes.]




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WAMUG Meeting Reminder: This Tuesday 7 June 2011 (Please Do Not Reply)

[Pete Smith]

G'day all WAMUGGERs

My iCal's just popped a reminder up for me to remind you all to set you iCals 
up to remind you of the next WAMUG Monthly Meeting. Don't forget. It's next 
Tuesday, 7 June 2011.

See the website for full details.
http://www.wamug.org.au/meetings/.

Oh, and don't forget the start time is now 7pm but we still finish at 9pm.

See you there.

Regards

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Daily digest - update ( HTML)

[Pete Smith]

With reference to the daily digest not being available I have found out the 
following:

Our web host Web In A Box has physically moved from their old location to a 
new location.

The WAMUG  mail system is running on Kerio Mail Server. The domain is running 
under a virtual server at the new location and the whole shebang comes under 
the auspices of our web host. Unfortunately, they don't currently run Kerio as 
part of their regular service.

If I understand correctly, whilst the physical move has been completed, the 
software migration hasn't happened yet (or at least hasn't been completed). 

However, once Web In A Box has Kerio up and running, the digest should come 
back online and also the list will revert to plain text again and attachments 
will not come through.

Sorry I can't give a time line. I believe they've hit a couple of hurdles along 
the way.

Regards,

Pete Smith

On 12/05/2011, at 08:31 AM, Vladimir James wrote:

 
 
 Could someone in the know please tell me whether the daily digest sub, as 
 mentioned on the website, is available.
 
 Vlad James
 wireless (NetComm 3G21WB)
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WAMUG Meeting Final reminder: This Tuesday 7 June 2011 (Please Do Not reply)

[Pete Smith]

G'day all WAMUGGERs

My iCal's just popped a reminder up for me again to remind you all to set you 
iCals up to remind you of the next WAMUG Monthly Meeting. Don't forget. It's 
this Tuesday, 7 June 2011.

See the website for full details.
http://www.wamug.org.au/meetings/.

Oh, and don't forget the start time is now 7pm but we still finish at 9pm.

See you there.

Regards

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Mac OSX 10.6.8 Available

[Pete Smith]

G'day all.

Mac OSX 10.6.8 update available. Came out yesterday, apparently.

Mac OS X 10.6.8 Update Combo
The 10.6.8 update is recommended for all users running Mac OS X Snow Leopard.
June 23, 2011 - 1.09 GB

Mac OS X 10.6.8 Update
The 10.6.8 update is recommended for all users running Mac OS X Snow Leopard.
June 23, 2011 - 474.2 MB

http://support.apple.com/downloads/

Regards,

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Re: Roxio Half Price Sale - 2 Days Only

[Pete Smith]

Excellent. Thanks for that Neil.

I've been looking for the Toast 11 Pro in various shops but no one seemed to 
have it. Have just ordered a physical DVD version online for heaps cheaper than 
the basic Toast 11 in the stores.

Thanks again.

Regards,

Pete Smith

On 29/06/2011, at 10:10 AM, Neil Houghton wrote:

 
 As a Roxio customer, I get regular mailings and noticed that they are
 offering 50% off ANY Roxio product bought from www.roxio.com until 1 July
 2011 (don't know which timezone sets the cut-off!)
 
 Just buy as normal but use the following voucher code in the Promo Code box:
 
 ROX50OFF
 
 I'm happy enough with my current (older) version of Toast but if anyone was
 considering buying/updating it is a good opportunity.
 
 
 Cheers
 
 
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Re: iPad 2 mirroring

[Pete Smith]

Hi David.

I haven't connected via DVI but, if you're interested; I took my iPad 2 to work 
and connected it up, via the VGA adapter, directly to our ACER projector in the 
training room. It worked fine. I just played around with it and my screen 
showed up nicely on the wall. It was actually better than any of the laptops 
we've used!

I had a couple of TV shows I had converted in Eye TV to iTunes and played one 
of them. It looked good on the wall and the sound from the iPad (no external 
speakers) was surprisingly good. Admittedly, I was seated next to it. The only 
thing with the video was that it only played on the wall and the iPad screen 
was blank. It does tell you it's going to do that so it's not a problem.

Interestingly, we've just upgraded our computers at work and our brand new 
laptop (Windows - yuk!) wouldn't work on the Acer. Had to get a techie out to 
physically work out what's what. Turned out the Acer, which is a few years old, 
has limited resolutions so it wasn't picking up the laptop too well. However, 
the iPad is one of the resolutions it recognises so it just worked.

I've been through my box of cables that I rescued from the skip at work but 
can't see a DVI cable. I'll have a look around at work but unless they came 
with our new computer rollout I don't think we have any. If I do find one, I'll 
try it out and report back. Don't hold your breath though.

Hope this helps.

Regards,

Pete Smith

On 27/06/2011, at 15:11 PM, David de la Hunty wrote:

 Thanks frank, not a bad option but was hoping for something DVI - for 
 projection on a big screen. Thanks for the tip, could still be OK.
 dd
 On 27/06/2011, at 13:36, Frank Wade wrote:
 
 
 On 27 Jun 2011, at 1:41 PM, David de la Hunty wrote:
 
 Is anyone hooking their ipad 2 to an external monitor?
 
 I managed to find one post on macrumours from March from someone who used a 
 hdmi ipad2 adaptor then connected an HDMI to DVI adaptor to that. Anyone 
 doing that with their ipad 2? Does it work well? Are there any more recent 
 adaptors which will hook up directly between ipad 2 and DVI? Nothing on 
 apple site that I can find.
 
 Hi David
 
 The Apple VGA adapter 
 http://store.apple.com/au/product/MC552ZM/B?fnode=MTc0MjU4NjEmco=MTc5MzExNTI
 
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WAMUG Meeting Reminder: This Tuesday 5 July 2011 (Please Do Not Reply)

[Pete Smith]

G'day all WAMUGGERs

If I had of been looking at my computer during the week, I would have seen the 
reminder my iCal popped up for me to remind you all to set you iCals up to 
remind you of the next WAMUG Monthly Meeting.

But don't you forget. It's this coming Tuesday, 5 July 2011.

See the website for full details.
http://www.wamug.org.au/meetings/.

7 pm start - 9 pm finish.
See you there.

Regards

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WAMUG Constitution Amendments - accepted

[Pete Smith]

G'day all WAMUGGERS.

You may remember that back in May we held a special general meeting to amend 
our constitution. Well, the Department of Commerce has accepted our revised 
rules (constitution) with effect from 2 June 2011.

Read about it on the web site (and the little challenge!).

http://www.wamug.org.au/

Regards,

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WAMUG Meeting Final Reminder: This Tuesday 5 July 2011 (Please Do Not Reply)

[Pete Smith]

G'day all WAMUGGERs

Hope you've set your iCals up tomorrow's WAMUG Monthly Meeting.

Tuesday 5 July 2001 at 7 pm.

See the website for full details.
http://www.wamug.org.au/meetings/.

7 pm start - 9 pm finish.
See you there.

Regards

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WAMUG Meeting reminder: This Tuesday 2 August 2011 (Please Do Not Reply)

[Pete Smith]

G'day all WAMUGGERs

Yep, that's right. July is nearly over which means that the August WAMUG 
Monthly Meeting is just around the corner. Or just over the hill, depending on 
which university you went to.

Anyway, don't forget to set your iCals up for next Tuesday, 2 August 2011.

What's on and where do we go I hear you ask?

See the website for full details.
http://www.wamug.org.au/meetings/.

7 pm start - 9 pm finish.
See you there.

Regards

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WAMUG Meeting Final Reminder: This Tuesday 2 August 2011 (Please Do Not Reply)

[Pete Smith]

G'day again all WAMUGGERs

Yep, that's right. July is nearly over which means that the August WAMUG 
Monthly Meeting is just around the corner. Or just over the hill, depending on 
which university you went to.

Anyway, don't forget to set your iCals up for this Tuesday, 2 August 2011.

What's on and where do you go I hear you ask?

See the website for full details.
http://www.wamug.org.au/meetings/.

7 pm start - 9 pm finish.
See you there.

Regards

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WAMUG Meeting Reminder: This Tuesday 6 September 2011 (Please Do Not reply)

[Pete Smith]

G'day all WAMUGGERs.

Well, August has passed us by and September is upon us. There's not many more 
WAMUG meetings left in the year but there is one next Tuesday.

Make sure your iCals are set, get fuel for your cars and charge those iPads up 
for next Tuesday, 6 September 2011.

See the website for full details.
http://www.wamug.org.au/meetings/.

7 pm start - 9 pm finish.
See you there.

Regards

Pete Smith
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