{W&P} Informational Request
--- Sponsor's Message -- **WIN A TRIP TO HAWAII** Every time you send a FREE ZingCard from now until September 11, 2000 you will be entered to win a trip to Hawaii. http://click.topica.com/yAb1dhdKb1tdRUa/Zing Hi Folks, How about some information just to get this list moving again :) Could each of you post some basic info about your political stance? Such as, in favor of armed conflict when or, Democracy only works when or, communism in the USSR failed because... Perhaps phrasing the comments as an "introduction"... you know, tell a little bit about yourself (nothing too personal :)) and what you might be looking for in this discussion group? How about it? anyone up for this? :) John T --- Sponsor's Message -- Get email and like it! Upgrade your brain with informative newsletters from IDG. From hot products to high-speed LANs, Linux to Novell, weve got the email you want--FREE at Topica! http://click.topica.com/BHb1dhdKb1tdRUc/PCWorld ___ To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Make A Buck Or Two @ TheMail.com - Free Internet Email Sign-up today at http://www.themail.com/ref.htm?ref=126357 referrer name = john_tCheck it out! It works! ___ T O P I C A The Email You Want. http://www.topica.com/t/16 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
{W&P} Democracy or a Republic?
How about a question? What's the difference between a Democracy and a Republic? Which is the USA? And what are the benefits (or lack thereof)? --- Sponsor's Message -- Get email and like it! Upgrade your brain with informative newsletters from IDG. From hot products to high-speed LANs, Linux to Novell, weve got the email you want--FREE at Topica! http://click.topica.com/BHb1dhdKb1tdRUc/PCWorld ___ To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Make A Buck Or Two @ TheMail.com - Free Internet Email Sign-up today at http://www.themail.com/ref.htm?ref=126357 referrer name = john_tCheck it out! It works! ___ T O P I C A The Email You Want. http://www.topica.com/t/16 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
{W&P} Presidential Debates start tonight in the USA....
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Re: {W&P} Presidential Debates start tonight in the USA....
--- Sponsor's Message -- Go to register.com now and register your dream domain name. Perhaps you have some great ideas, dont wait until its too late. Go to register.com today and register a domain name for it before someone else does. http://click.topica.com/Egb1dhdKb1tdRUa/Register From: "Jackson Jeffrey W 1stLt AAC/INA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I think Al Gore should defend Bush's platform, and Bush should take Gore's > platform. Do you think anyone would even notice? Actually, that sounds like an excellent idea! It would prove that they both understand each other's position and might (just might) lead to something useful being done. > > Anyone expecting anything out of the ordinary, tonight? > > > > Personally, I'm hoping one of them makes a Major Blunder :) > > Would liven things up a bit, no? Maybe one of the Secret Service agents could be convinced to spike the drinking water :) --- Sponsor's Message -- GET A NEXTCARD VISA, in 30 seconds! Get rates as low as 2.9% Intro or 9.9% Fixed APR and no hidden fees. Apply NOW! http://click.topica.com/q2b1dhdKb1tdRUc/NextCardAd4 ___ To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Make A Buck Or Two @ TheMail.com - Free Internet Email Sign-up today at http://www.themail.com/ref.htm?ref=126357 referrer name = john_tCheck it out! It works! ___ T O P I C A The Email You Want. http://www.topica.com/t/16 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
{W&P} Presidential Debates USA....
--- Sponsor's Message -- **WEBMASTERS! REGISTER DOMAINS FREE at NameDemo.com!** Now you can get a domain name at NameDemo.comTM for a year ABSOLUTELY FREE! Youll also get your own FREE unique email address like [EMAIL PROTECTED]! http://click.topica.com/Eqb1dhdKb1tdRUa/NameDemo Well, for the most part it went as expected... but my memory of the 'negative ads' seems to be that Gore's ads were the ones which were first to begin attacking Bush... but Gore claimed in the Debates that he wouldn't attack Bush... I guess he believes the American people have no long term memory :) Who else has some comments on it? --- Support our Sponsor- Make eTour.com your Web start page, and youll see a different site matched to your interests every time you log onto the Web! Sign up for your free membership now. http://click.topica.com/Exb1dhdKb1tdRUc/eTour ___ To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Make A Buck Or Two @ TheMail.com - Free Internet Email Sign-up today at http://www.themail.com/ref.htm?ref=126357 referrer name = john_tCheck it out! It works! ___ T O P I C A The Email You Want. http://www.topica.com/t/16 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
{W&P} Anyone watch the VicePresidential Debates?
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{W&P} Milosevic out - Should EU lift sanctions?
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{W&P} Tension in the Middle East?
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{W&P} USS Cole
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{W&P} Smoking in Public/outdoors?
--- Support our Sponsor Individual.com is the #1 site for FREE personalized Internet news. Every day we deliver just the news YOU prefer. Get your daily dose free! http://click.topica.com/Imb1dhdKb1tdRUa/Individual Hi folks, I just saw on TV that my local county gov't is outlawing smoking in Public Parks! Now, I quit smoking 11 years ago so it doesn't really affect me but it seems a little ridiculous to be outlawing it in a park, dontchathink? After all, the reason they claimed to have outlawed it in office buildings and restaurants was because of the second hand smoke being confined in enclosed spaces smoking in public parks can't be any more dangerous than the air polution that's already out there, can it? hmm. must be an election year :) --- Sponsor's Message -- Get email and like it! Upgrade your brain with informative newsletters from IDG. From hot products to high-speed LANs, Linux to Novell, weve got the email you want--FREE at Topica! http://click.topica.com/Kkb1dhdKb1tdRUc/PCWorld ___ To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Make A Buck Or Two @ TheMail.com - Free Internet Email Sign-up today at http://www.themail.com/ref.htm?ref=126357 referrer name = john_tCheck it out! It works! ___ T O P I C A The Email You Want. http://www.topica.com/t/16 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
Re: {W&P} wardiary2001
--- Support our Sponsor Does your child struggle in school? Discover Sylvan Learning Centers and get $100 off enrollment, $25 off a Skill Assessment, or a FREE video. http://click.topica.com/vob1dhdKb1tdRUa/SylvanLearning From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > NOW IS THE TIME TO LEARN WHAT IS REALLY HAPPENING IN ISRAEL CONCERNING Why don't you stop SHOUTING and maybe someone will LISTEN to you. Share some of your Insights... don't just direct people to the web sites...how is anyone supposed to discuss that? What's happening in Israel that you feel no one else but you knows about? Speak and ye shall be heard :) --- Sponsor's Message -- Get email and like it! Upgrade your brain with informative newsletters from IDG. From hot products to high-speed LANs, Linux to Novell, weve got the email you want--FREE at Topica! http://click.topica.com/Kkb1dhdKb1tdRUc/PCWorld ___ To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Make A Buck Or Two @ TheMail.com - Free Internet Email Sign-up today at http://www.themail.com/ref.htm?ref=126357 referrer name = john_tCheck it out! It works! ___ T O P I C A The Email You Want. http://www.topica.com/t/16 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
Re: {W&P} UPDATES - WARDIARY2001
--- Support our Sponsor HOLIDAY TRAVEL FOR PENNIES ON THE DOLLAR - Lowest airfare in the sky, vacation packages, cruises. Get thousands of travel agents competing for your business. Save with new FREE site! http://click.topica.com/NPb1dhdKb1tdRUa/Imandi From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > We have added a new pole to our website, and we invite you to place YOUR > vote. We are interested of YOUR opinions (!) Boring.. I told you we weren't interested in Your websites... Discuss the facts or intuitions or rumors you wish to discuss Post another web page advertisement and you will be removed. Clear? > It is important for us to know how YOU feel and what YOU think. Share your info... discuss with others on This list... Interact, not leech. --- Support our Sponsor- Make eTour.com your Web start page, and youll see a different site matched to your interests every time you log onto the Web! Sign up for your free membership now. http://click.topica.com/Exb1dhdKb1tdRUc/eTour ___ To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Make A Buck Or Two @ TheMail.com - Free Internet Email Sign-up today at http://www.themail.com/ref.htm?ref=126357 referrer name = john_tCheck it out! It works! ___ T O P I C A The Email You Want. http://www.topica.com/t/16 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
{W&P} Welcome to all the New Members!
--- Sponsor's Message -- Get Only the Best Lists! Get a daily profile of the best lists at Topica, FREE! http://click.topica.com/PIb1dhdKb1tdRUa/BestLists Hail and Welcome! We've been getting a few new members... perhaps you'll post an intro ... maybe something about why you joined this list? What are you looking for? What interests are currently grabbing your attention? Interested in Local, National, International politics? Elections? Post something to get things moving again :) John T ___ To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Make A Buck Or Two @ TheMail.com - Free Internet Email Sign-up today at http://www.themail.com/ref.htm?ref=126357 referrer name = john_tCheck it out! It works! ___ T O P I C A http://www.topica.com/t/17 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
Re: {W&P} Another "new" memeber introduction
--- Sponsor's Message -- Get Only the Best Lists! Get a daily profile of the best lists at Topica, FREE! http://click.topica.com/PIb1dhdKb1tdRUa/BestLists From: "Jelena Tasic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Hi! Hi Jelena, > First, sorry for my English which isn't very well, but I hope that you're > going to understand me. My name is Jelena (17), and I live in Yugoslavia. > I'm on this list for few months, I guess. I'm interested in politics but I > haven't graduate political science (yet!) :))) That's all about me for now, > bye, You are easy to understand. I'm not a graduate of political science either... but this list is a place where you can bring up any type of political topic, so post a couple of ideas and see who bites :) I must admit, I haven't been following the political developments in the Balkans... what has happened with the elections? I had heard that Milocevic had refused to accept the election results... but I haven't heard anything since then... How about giving us some 'inside' information? :) John T ___ To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Make A Buck Or Two @ TheMail.com - Free Internet Email Sign-up today at http://www.themail.com/ref.htm?ref=126357 referrer name = john_tCheck it out! It works! ___ T O P I C A http://www.topica.com/t/17 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
Re: {W&P} Not a New Member, But...
--- Sponsor's Message -- Get Only the Best Lists! Get a daily profile of the best lists at Topica, FREE! http://click.topica.com/PIb1dhdKb1tdRUa/BestLists From: "Tamar Herzberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I'm not really a new member, but I'll tell you a bit > about myself: New or old... we're just trying to encourage some new discussion :) > I'm a Political Science graduate at TAU and manage a Please excuse my ignorance but where's TAU ? > I'm interested mainly in human-rights and church-state > relations, and my focus is Third World politics and > democratising countries. But - I'm open to anything, > and I wouldn't have chosen politics as my research > field unless I was interested in most areas. I guess > that most of you are IR people, but I think "war" has > more meaning than the narrow IR discipline. Ok, another question: What's IR ? And I think that 'war' can be many things... from massive conflict involving the loss of life of millions to 'so called' "police actions" which affect the balance of nations. > Since my country is ay war right now, I have some day > to day stories I can share with you... ("practical" > and not only "theoretical") - but if you ask me, I > prefer a list less based on quarelling over political > opinions and more a discussion over theory and > solutions. Well, it seems that the eGroups version of this list has the 'political opinions' portion fairly well covered... maybe we can get this list more interested in theory? Perhaps you can lead the way :) And which country was that again? :) John T ___ To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Make A Buck Or Two @ TheMail.com - Free Internet Email Sign-up today at http://www.themail.com/ref.htm?ref=126357 referrer name = john_tCheck it out! It works! ___ T O P I C A http://www.topica.com/t/17 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
Re: {W&P} Israel
--- Sponsor's Message -- Get Only the Best Lists! Get a daily profile of the best lists at Topica, FREE! http://click.topica.com/PIb1dhdKb1tdRUa/BestLists From: "Jackson Jeffrey W 1stLt AAC/INA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > The Israelis and Palestinians were both working towards peace, apparently in > good faith, and it appeared for quite a while that they were making > progress. But they had to do it on their own schedule, and the US tried to > rush it. I think we pushed it so hard and so fast that the PEOPLE didn't Quite right... Most likely Clinton wanted to leave with something more to be remembered for than sharing a cigar with an intern :) Took the short view when he should have known it would take much longer than the time he has left in office to get that area to agree to a potentially lasting peace. ___ To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Make A Buck Or Two @ TheMail.com - Free Internet Email Sign-up today at http://www.themail.com/ref.htm?ref=126357 referrer name = john_tCheck it out! It works! ___ T O P I C A http://www.topica.com/t/17 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
{W&P} Countries..
--- Sponsor's Message -- Get Only the Best Lists! Get a daily profile of the best lists at Topica, FREE! http://click.topica.com/PIb1dhdKb1tdRUa/BestLists Hmm, looks like we are getting a wide range of members... So far members from Yugoslavia, Portugal, Israel, Japan and the US have introduced themselves... anyone else? Did I miss anyone? And a range of education, too... I hope that things pick up on here I can see that I'll be learning quite a bit, if it does! Who else is 'hiding' out there? :) John T ___ To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Make A Buck Or Two @ TheMail.com - Free Internet Email Sign-up today at http://www.themail.com/ref.htm?ref=126357 referrer name = john_tCheck it out! It works! ___ T O P I C A http://www.topica.com/t/17 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
Two Lists? or Change Subject Tag? (was Re: {W&P} Liberation Day)
--- Support our Sponsor Want to fast-forward to better Websites? All it takes is 60 seconds and your opinion. Join the cPulse Website Advisory Panel and earn rewards-lots of them. http://click.topica.com/Ofb1dhdKb1tdRUa/InsightExpress From: "JS Russell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On the other hand, the lists have begun to take on identities of their own. > They are not really the same things anymore. Perhaps they ought to be > severed rather than merged. > John? Hi Jill, As far as I'm concerned, the group already voted... remember I started this version of the list and asked everyone to move over? It received some activity but the majority wanted to stay at the eGroups site so that's Ok by me :) ...and they have taken on individual identities... I'm sure we can figure out a way to keep them easily distinguishable, right? The two lists have slight variations in the Subject tag (The eGroups on has [W&P] and the Topica one has {W&P}... not a great difference but is it enough? hmm, I guess I'll change it to {W+P} that should work :)) If that's Ok with the members of this list, I'll change the Subject Tag later today... Make your wishes known... although I don't see any big deal with the change, it might upset some who prefer to keep their Filters set on the subject line :) What says the List??? John T --- Support our Sponsor eTour is your personal web tour guide, matching the best sites with your interests. eTour is free and easy, and you can earn rewards discovering great new sites. Visit today! http://click.topica.com/Qmb1dhdKb1tdRUc/eTour ___ To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Make A Buck Or Two @ TheMail.com - Free Internet Email Sign-up today at http://www.themail.com/ref.htm?ref=126357 referrer name = john_tCheck it out! It works! ___ T O P I C A http://www.topica.com/t/17 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
{W&P} Topica Outage
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{W&P} Khadafi - Libya
--- Support our Sponsor Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the No. 1 Source for Family History Online. Search over 700 MILLION NAMES and trace your family tree today. Click here: http://click.topica.com/Sfb1dhdKb1tdRUa/MyFamily_com Just wondering... did anyone hear that Khadafi offered up a solution to the recent US election problems? Supposedly, he suggested (strenously) that who ever is deemed the 'winner' that they make the loser their Co-President with the presidential duties split equally between them, otherwise they'd be risking Civil War! (since the election was so close, he expects those who are dissatisfied with the outcome to take violent action :)) So, the questions are: Where does it say in the US Constitution that there can be Co-presidents with presidential duties equally split? I must have missed that when we studied the constitution back in college :) Should such a suggestion be taken seriously? Why? why not? Given the state of affairs in Libya, what do you think prompted such a comment from him? Libya isn't exactly known for its notions of 'equality' --- Support our Sponsor eTour is your personal web tour guide, matching the best sites with your interests. eTour is free and easy, and you can earn rewards discovering great new sites. Visit today! http://click.topica.com/Qmb1dhdKb1tdRUc/eTour ___ To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Make A Buck Or Two @ TheMail.com - Free Internet Email Sign-up today at http://www.themail.com/ref.htm?ref=126357 referrer name = john_tCheck it out! It works! ___ T O P I C A http://www.topica.com/t/17 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
Re: {W&P} Khadafi - Libya
--- Support our Sponsor Its not too late to save big on holiday travel! Visit Hotwire for savings of up to 40% on the airlines you trust. No bidding, no hassles. http://click.topica.com/ZCb1dhdKb1tdRUa/Hotwire From: "Tamar Herzberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Last (not important) point - Qaddafi, not Khadafi. > Belive me, I studied Arabic. Sorry, I've never seen it written down... thought I came close enough to be understood, though :) > PS - It is completely off topic, but in the midst of > the war we're in, the government here collapsed again. > It seems that we'll have elections in May. Bibi > Natanyahu is about to win, so say the polls. Oh my > God. At least the joke-writers will have more > material... I don't see why you would consider it 'off topic'... seems to me that collapsing governments might be 'topical' for this list :) (what kind of jokes?? :)) Israel certainly has had an 'exciting' history, though brief compared to the rest of the region... How much peace-time would you estimate you've had since Israel's inception? (percentage or years, either way :)) One thing I was surprised at during the Gulf War, "Desert Storm", half a dozen years back... when Iraq started lobbing bombs in your direction, it was surprising that Israel acceded to the UN request to remain on the side lines... I guess if it had gone on much longer that wouldn't have remained true... --- Support our Sponsor Imagine a credit card with a 0% introductory APR on purchases (for complete pricing information and important terms and conditions, please click on the link below). Apply now for an Aria Visa! http://click.topica.com/Ijb1dhdKb1tdRUc/Aria ___ To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Make A Buck Or Two @ TheMail.com - Free Internet Email Sign-up today at http://www.themail.com/ref.htm?ref=126357 referrer name = john_tCheck it out! It works! ___ T O P I C A http://www.topica.com/t/17 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
Re: {W&P} Khadifi's comments (however you want to spell it)
--- Support our Sponsor Its not too late to save big on holiday travel! Visit Hotwire for savings of up to 40% on the airlines you trust. No bidding, no hassles. http://click.topica.com/ZCb1dhdKb1tdRUa/Hotwire Khadifi's comments (however you want to spell it) From: Jackson Jeffrey I saw a congressional scholar on C-Span last night say it was entirely possible to have Bush as President and Leiberman as VP. Not the same as what K/Q said, but it's close. That's weird... but how likely do you Really think it would be? do you really think they'll let it get to the point where it becomes a Congressional decision? I wonder what the chances are that they'll end up doing a complete recount of All the votes in FL? at least those which were discarded as unreadable/unacceptable Personally, I think they should have a re-vote... but I understand that option isn't available :( --- Support our Sponsor Imagine a credit card with a 0% introductory APR on purchases (for complete pricing information and important terms and conditions, please click on the link below). Apply now for an Aria Visa! http://click.topica.com/Ijb1dhdKb1tdRUc/Aria ___ To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Make A Buck Or Two @ TheMail.com - Free Internet Email Sign-up today at http://www.themail.com/ref.htm?ref=126357 referrer name = john_tCheck it out! It works! ___ T O P I C A http://www.topica.com/t/17 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
RE: {W&P} Make it a rule ....
Make it a rule you have to look into the enemy's eyes before you try to kill him... take away all 'distance' weapons - keep it hand to hand How about making those "West Pointers" really use those swords? :) Have a ritual combat to decide the issues? Satisfy the 'bloodlust' while at the same time reducing the incidental loss of life to civilian bystanders :) In the wars of today, there is no 'clear' victor... that's one of the reasons for the continuation of old grudges, the "leaders" don't get into it and both sides can claim victory since neither side inflicts significant damage on the "leaders" abilities to function... Why not make it a requirement for any future wars that they exile the leadership of the loser's side of the wars? A little island where no one would know to look for them? and where they couldn't cause any more trouble :) ___ To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Make A Buck Or Two @ TheMail.com - Free Internet Email Sign-up today at http://www.themail.com/ref.htm?ref=126357 referrer name = john_tCheck it out! It works! ___ T O P I C A http://www.topica.com/t/17 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
{W&P} The Election Saga Continues..
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Supreme Court Decision? Re: {W&P} The Election Saga Continues..
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{W&P} Gore Conceeds (Topica Upgrade might delay this message :))
--- Support our Sponsor Does your child struggle in school? Discover Sylvan Learning Centers and get $100 off enrollment, $25 off a Skill Assessment, or a FREE video. http://click.topica.com/vob1dhdKb1tdRUa/SylvanLearning Hey, Gore gave a good concession speech... a few digs but decent overall. The Topica upgrade might delay the mail for the next ten hours or so... they have promised that all mail will be queued and sent after the upgrade has been completed. --- Sponsor's Message -- REDUCE YOUR DEBT FOR FREE!! #1 Rated Method Of Reducing Debt And Improving Your Credit Rating! This reputable NON-Profit can assist you at absolutely NO COST! Click here for more information. http://click.topica.com/OUb1dhdKb1tdRUc/e-debtconsolidation ___ To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Make A Buck Or Two @ TheMail.com - Free Internet Email Sign-up today at http://www.themail.com/ref.htm?ref=126357 referrer name = john_tCheck it out! It works! ___ T O P I C A http://www.topica.com/t/17 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
{W&P} NAACP taking FL to court
--- Support our Sponsor WIN FIRST CLASS AIRLINE TICKETS FOR LIFE FROM OFFICE.COM! Play daily through 12/31/00 for your chance to INSTANTLY WIN one of 4,500 prizes Including First Class Airline Tickets for Life! http://click.topica.com/5yb1dhdKb1tdRUa/Individual_com Just heard that the NAACP is taking FL to court... alleging that black voters were disenfranchised due to the recent election hassles in the US. Anyone hear anything more on it? I just got a quick blurb in passing on the news --- Support our Sponsor FREE DEBT REDUCTION HELP? Did you know you can get COMPLETELY FREE HELP lowering your interest charges and debt payments? Click now for more information about this FREE, LIMITED TIME OFFER. http://click.topica.com/OSb1dhdKb1tdRUc/edebtconsolidation ___ To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Make A Buck Or Two @ TheMail.com - Free Internet Email Sign-up today at http://www.themail.com/ref.htm?ref=126357 referrer name = john_tCheck it out! It works! ___ T O P I C A http://www.topica.com/t/17 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
{W&P} Nationalism...discussion question
--- Support our Sponsor Finally Long Distance Calling Breaks the 5¢/minute Barrier Interstate Rate is 3.95¢ per minute via Nationwide 10-10 # No Monthly Fee - No Time Restrictions - No Call Length Min http://click.topica.com/ZMb1dhdKb1tdRUa/SavOnCalling I'm looking for some opinions on "nationalism". It seems that just about every country can point to some point in their history and say "The world wouldn't be the same if hadn't happened here!" Since we have a fairly wide representation in this list's membership of the world's countries... What would you consider to be some of the "major contributions" of Your country? And do you feel that others have a tendency to discount it or ignore it entirely? How far back in time do you have to reach to find the "major contributions"? The invention of 'fire'? Building the pyramids (either Aztec or Egyption :))? Great artwork? Inventions? Philosophy? etc etc etc And how does this color your perceptions and the perceptions of others? I know, pretty broad... but if you let yourselves go with it, I'm sure we can generate some interesting discussions and everyone is free to branch off with new subject lines, of course :) Let the discussion Begin! --- Support our Sponsor eTour is your personal web tour guide, matching the best sites with your interests. eTour is free and easy, and you can earn rewards discovering great new sites. Visit today! http://click.topica.com/5Ab1dhdKb1tdRUc/eTour ___ To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Make A Buck Or Two @ TheMail.com - Free Internet Email Sign-up today at http://www.themail.com/ref.htm?ref=126357 referrer name = john_tCheck it out! It works! ___ T O P I C A http://www.topica.com/t/17 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
Re: {W&P} How do I unsubscribe?
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Re: {W&P} Nationalism...discussion question
/=-=-=-=-Click Here & Support Our Sponsor-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=\ Special Holiday Offer for your friends & family! Give them the Gift of Free Long Distance calls using Tellme. Click for details: http://click.topica.com/6Zb1dhdKb1tdRUa/Tellme \=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=/ From: "CAROL L SEATON" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Wow, what a good idea, John. Glad you liked it too bad no one else decided to respond :( Perhaps the humor I used in the message was misconstrued... Ok, so I don't think we should look for nationalism discussion on who first found Fire :) How about the Germans with the first rockets (or the Real first rockets developed by the Chinese?) Or who developed something that really changed the world? Many of the communications devices radio, phones, TV, computers Or the Industrial Revolution? The Renaisance? Or, conversely, who do you blame for the Dark Ages of Europe? What would things have been like it Europe hadn't wasted hundreds of years in the Dark Ages? --- Support our Sponsor- Make eTour.com your Web start page, and youll see a different site matched to your interests every time you log onto the Web! Sign up for your free membership now. http://click.topica.com/5zb1dhdKb1tdRUc/eTour ___ To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Make A Buck Or Two @ TheMail.com - Free Internet Email Sign-up today at http://www.themail.com/ref.htm?ref=126357 referrer name = john_tCheck it out! It works! ___ T O P I C A http://www.topica.com/t/17 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
Re: {W&P} How do I unsubscribe?
/=-=-=-=-Click Here & Support Our Sponsor-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=\ Imagine a credit card with a 0% introductory APR on purchases (for complete pricing information and important terms and conditions, please click on the link below). Apply now for an Aria Visa! http://click.topica.com/5Cb1dhdKb1tdRUa/Aria \=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=/ From: "Troy Heagy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >From: John T <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Unsubscribe Directions are on the bottom of every message, Troy... just > >like on the other list. > > But if you don't have time to read all the messages, why did you just > >join the High volume version of this list? Seems contradictory :) > I can read the messages on the website if I have free time. That way, I > don't need to worry about my mailbox overflowing. No need to unsubscribe you can change your subscription to "Web Only/no email". Just log in to Topica and go to your "My Topica" page. You can modify your subscription to Digest or "Web only/no email" from the drop down menu on the right side of the page. That's also an alternate means of unsubscribing. The advantage? You don't have to rejoin the list when you find something on the archives you want to respond to... you can send mail while on "Web Only". ttyl; John T http://www.topica.com/lists/War_and_Politics/ /=-=-=-=-Click Here & Support Our Sponsor-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=\ Juniper Bank-2.9% intro APR, 100% access Experience unrivaled Internet and wireless convenience with friendly account reminders and online discounts. Get connected to a whole new kind of credit card. http://click.topica.com/5Eb1dhdKb1tdRUc/Juniper \=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=/ ___ To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Make A Buck Or Two @ TheMail.com - Free Internet Email Sign-up today at http://www.themail.com/ref.htm?ref=126357 referrer name = john_tCheck it out! It works! ___ T O P I C A http://www.topica.com/t/17 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
Re: {W&P} interesting perspective
--- Support our Sponsor- Make eTour.com your Web start page, and youll see a different site matched to your interests every time you log onto the Web! Sign up for your free membership now. http://click.topica.com/5zb1dhdKb1tdRUb/eTour Yep, interesting.. I've seen it before... Two points, (I'm sure there are others, though :)) While the US planes are most frequently flown, the British also have quality airplanes... second only to the US (at least according to the PBS show I saw the other day... they're coming out with a new Jumbo jet in 2006) And while I don't know if any outside countries came to our assistance for the SF earthquake, I do know that Canadian firefighters (as well as others) have come to the US's assistance to fight the wildfires which affected us this past year civilian volunteers which makes it all the more appreciated! - Original Message - From: Jackson Jeffrey W 1stLt AAC/INA This is out of a Canadian newspaper. There are some inaccuracies in it, but I thought it was interesting nonetheless. Jeff > >> America: The Good Neighbor. > >> > > >> dollar build its own airplane. Does any other > >> country in the world have a plane to equal the > >> Boeing Jumbo Jet, the Lockheed Tri-Star, or the > >> Douglas DC10? If so, why don't they fly them? Why do > >> all the International lines except Russia fly > >> American Planes? > >> > >> I can name you 5000 times when the Americans raced > >> to the help of other people in trouble. Can you name > >> me even one time when someone else raced to the > >> Americans in trouble? I don't think there was > >> outside help even during the San Francisco > >> earthquake. > >> /=-=-=-=-Click Here & Support Our Sponsor-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=\ Imagine a credit card with a 0% introductory APR on purchases (for complete pricing information and important terms and conditions, please click on the link below). Apply now for an Aria Visa! http://click.topica.com/5Cb1dhdKb1tdRUd/Aria \=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=/ ___ To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Make A Buck Or Two @ TheMail.com - Free Internet Email Sign-up today at http://www.themail.com/ref.htm?ref6357 referrer name ohn_tCheck it out! It works! ___ T O P I C A http://www.topica.com/t/17 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
Re: {W&P} article and paper
--- Support our Sponsor eTour is your personal web tour guide, matching the best sites with your interests. eTour is free and easy, and you can earn rewards discovering great new sites. Visit today! http://click.topica.com/5Ab1dhdKb1tdRUb/eTour From: Jackson Jeffrey W 1stLt AAC/INA I meant to convey that the Canadian newspaper article was in relation to the nationalism thread, but I forgot. Anyway, that's something I'm proud of...America tries to help. I understand that our interests are usually somehow served as well, and like everyone else we've had some dark spots in our history, but I think the intent is not always completely self-serving. And not all the help that America provides is government sponsored... we have plenty of volunteer and emergency services which provide aid. Some of that aid could be better spent at home, though... Also, I've just written a paper on the impact of cookies, web bugs and online profiling upon privacy in America, including a bit about the direction of legislation to protect privacy versus protecting the right of the business to collect and catalog information in the public domain. It's partially relevant to this list as privacy is a cornerstone of American politics, but it's about 28 pages or so in Word so I don't want to post it unless there's interest. Let me know if you want to read it, and I'll email you personally. If there's enough interest I'll post it. I found the research extremely interesting, and it may spark a new thread! It's a shame that Topica doesn't have a "Files" feature, you could upload it for anyone who might be interested. Are you a member of the eGroups version of this list? You might consider uploading it there... as far as I can tell, most of the members of this list are also members over there... but here they don't get flooded by messages and they can post their opinions without worrying about getting lost in the flood (the other list has been known to have over 100 messages/day :)) If you are a member you can upload it to that Files area and provide a link to it for others to use to view/download it. John T - {W&P} list owner /=-=-=-=-Click Here & Support Our Sponsor-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=\ Juniper Bank-2.9% intro APR, 100% access Experience unrivaled Internet and wireless convenience with friendly account reminders and online discounts. Get connected to a whole new kind of credit card. http://click.topica.com/5Eb1dhdKb1tdRUd/Juniper \=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=/ ___ To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Make A Buck Or Two @ TheMail.com - Free Internet Email Sign-up today at http://www.themail.com/ref.htm?ref6357 referrer name ohn_tCheck it out! It works! ___ T O P I C A http://www.topica.com/t/17 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
{W&P} Al Gore - Down but not Out!
--- Support Our Sponsor Dont miss the latest news in Consumer Electronics. Its all at the 2001 International CES! Registration is easy! Sign up now! http://click.topica.com/7Mb1dhdKb1tdRUa/ConsumerElectronic DOWN, NOT OUT: Now that George W. Bush has been declared the winner of the presidential election, talk is turning to what opponent Al Gore will do next. Some say he ruined his chances by resorting to court challenges. Even leading Democrats think he'll have a hard time making a comeback. "It will be an uphill battle for him to get the nomination again," said Sen. Joseph R. Biden Jr. "Politics is not like horse shoes: you don't get a prize for second place," agrees New Jersey Democratic Party Chairman Tom Giblin. "It's going to be very difficult for Al Gore to come back. (New York Times) ...Bush is ready to help: he has named Gore to a come-back position as the Ambassador to Chad. --- Support our Sponsor eTour is your personal web tour guide, matching the best sites with your interests. eTour is free and easy, and you can earn rewards discovering great new sites. Visit today! http://click.topica.com/5Ab1dhdKb1tdRUc/eTour ___ To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Make A Buck Or Two @ TheMail.com - Free Internet Email Sign-up today at http://www.themail.com/ref.htm?ref=126357 referrer name = john_tCheck it out! It works! ___ T O P I C A http://www.topica.com/t/17 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
{W&P} Happy Holidays
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{W&P} Dead Man votes and other irregularities...
/=-=-=-=-Click Here & Support Our Sponsor-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=\ Get the competitive edge you need with highly customized news from the #1 site for comprehensive news on the Internet Register at Individual.com today! http://click.topica.com/7zb1dhdKb1tdRUa/Individual_com \=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=/ Well, the fun and games in FL continue... http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20001224/ts/election_miami_dc_1.html Seems that a small percentage of voters (both living and dead :)) who shouldn't have been allowed to cast their votes this past Pres. election, did... the article doesn't say who the votes were cast for... but I'd be willing to bet that it happened on both sides :) --- Support our Sponsor Imagine a credit card with a 0% introductory APR on purchases (for complete pricing information and important terms and conditions, please click on the link below). Apply now for an Aria Visa! http://click.topica.com/Ijb1dhdKb1tdRUc/Aria ___ To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Make A Buck Or Two @ TheMail.com - Free Internet Email Sign-up today at http://www.themail.com/ref.htm?ref=126357 referrer name = john_tCheck it out! It works! ___ T O P I C A http://www.topica.com/t/17 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
{W&P} Indonesia
--- Support our Sponsor Does your child struggle in school? Discover Sylvan Learning Centers and get $100 off enrollment, $25 off a Skill Assessment, or a FREE video. http://click.topica.com/vob1dhdKb1tdRUa/SylvanLearning Indonesia bombings disrupt Chrismas eve celebrations... that's what they said on the morning news... I must admit, I wasn't aware of problems in Indonesia what's going on there? Who's doing what to whom? Anyone know? --- Support our Sponsor Imagine a credit card with a 0% introductory APR on purchases (for complete pricing information and important terms and conditions, please click on the link below). Apply now for an Aria Visa! http://click.topica.com/Ijb1dhdKb1tdRUc/Aria ___ To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Make A Buck Or Two @ TheMail.com - Free Internet Email Sign-up today at http://www.themail.com/ref.htm?ref=126357 referrer name = john_tCheck it out! It works! ___ T O P I C A http://www.topica.com/t/17 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
{W&P} Cuban Missile Crisis revisited
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{W&P} New Year - Old Problems
--- Sponsor's Message -- Get Only the Best Lists! Get a daily profile of the best lists at Topica, FREE! http://click.topica.com/PIb1dhdKb1tdRUa/BestLists Well, what's everyone doing these days? Is Saddam Hussein stepping down? What's happening in Pakistan? Will OPEC cut back on production Again and raise Oil Prices? Anyone have anything else they might want to discuss? ___ To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Make A Buck Or Two @ TheMail.com - Free Internet Email Sign-up today at http://www.themail.com/ref.htm?ref=126357 referrer name = john_tCheck it out! It works! ___ T O P I C A http://www.topica.com/t/17 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
{W&P} 835 Tons
--- Support Our Sponsor Dont miss the latest news in Consumer Electronics. Its all at the 2001 International CES! Registration is easy! Sign up now! http://click.topica.com/7Mb1dhdKb1tdRUa/ConsumerElectronic Just heard this on the late night news Clinton is moving the accumulated items generated during his terms as President to Arkansas. Future home of the Clinton Presidential Library. Those accumulated items mass a total of 835 Tons! Air lifting them is expected to take a while :) I wonder if he will be including any intern's dresses :) --- Sponsor's Message -- Who Are the Top Dogs? Find out about the best newsletters and discussions! http://click.topica.com/4qb1dhdKb1tdRUc/TopDogs ___ To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Make A Buck Or Two @ TheMail.com - Free Internet Email Sign-up today at http://www.themail.com/ref.htm?ref=126357 referrer name = john_tCheck it out! It works! ___ T O P I C A http://www.topica.com/t/17 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
{W&P} El Salvador earthquake
--- Support our Sponsor Become a Fool: Get out of debt. Learn how to invest. Retire early. Take control of your finances. Register to become a Fool! It's FREE! Get investment freebies too. Click here http://click.topica.com/aaabd5b1dhdKb1tdRUa/MotleyFool Hi Folks, just to pick up on an old thread about gov't providing aid in times of crises... anyone know who's providing aid in El Salvador - the local news is, of course, telling about all the aid the US is providing... but I'm wondering about which other countries are joining in the effort? Input/comments appreciated :) John T Get the top Italian sites sent to you each day It's FREE -- it's "ITALIAN NetGuide"! ___ To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Make A Buck Or Two @ TheMail.com - Free Internet Email Sign-up today at http://www.themail.com/ref.htm?ref=126357 referrer name = john_tCheck it out! It works! T O P I C A -- Learn More. Surf Less. Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Topics You Choose. http://www.topica.com/partner/tag01
{W&P} Sharon and Palestine....
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{W&P} Shots fired at the Whitehouse!
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{W&P} What's happening in Iraq?
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{W&P} Clinton's Pardons still making news...
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{W&P} A history of Violence....
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{W&P} Back In The USSR?
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{W&P} "Son of Star Wars" - Putin's webcast
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False Posting Re: {W&P} New member - 2nd Moderator.
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Re: {W&P} Group Policy, etc.
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Re: {W&P} Expulsion
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Re: {W&P} Group Policy, etc.
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Re: {W&P} Expulsion
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bombing? Re: {W&P} Group Policy, etc.
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Re: {W&P} New member - 2nd Moderator.
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{W&P} What's happening in Nepal?
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{W&P} Challenge to the List!
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{W&P} Bush & Treaties....
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{W&P} European Union
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{W&P} Fascism
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{W&P} Lawsuit charges Arafat with genocide
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{W&P} Crimes Against Humanity...
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{W&P} Radioactives? (was RE: Challenge to the List!)
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{W&P} Liberals? (was RE: Challenge to the List!)
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{W&P} Treason?
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Re: {W&P} Treason?
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RE: {W&P} "MORALITY" OF THE RULERS
maree wrote: > tell me is this crap going to continue > > maree Well, everyone's entitled to their own opinions, aren't they? Perhaps you'd care to refute his claims? No matter, he's been removed since he's only trying to promote his own agenda rather than interact with the membership. If he'd interacted, then his postings would fit within the guidelines for this list. So? Anyone have anything 'controversial' they'd like to discuss? I seem to recall reading in the National Enquirer (or similar rag :)) that Bin Laden has granted them an Exclusive Interview and will be Revealing All ! In addition, he is supposed to be applying for US citizenship so he can run for President! He has a few legal issues to clear up, first, of course... but how about him for US President in 2004 ? JT ___ Check out http://clik.to/sf for other lists to join. A93MR48T18 ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?b1dhdK.b1tdRU Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
{W&P} China laying an egg???
Just read an interesting article... seems that China is building a new opera house of unusual design... it will look like a huge egg :) I hope nobody starts making yokes about it :) Space-age opera house still on, says China The Chinese authorities are to go ahead with building a controversial space-age opera house in central Beijing, despite a storm of protest from local architects and academics. The French-designed building is expected to look like a huge egg covered with glass and titanium and set in a lake. Audience members will enter the building via an underwater tunnel. more at http://www.gmn.com/news/default.asp?ms=2&id=2876&src=10407 John T Any Tolkien fans out there? [EMAIL PROTECTED] Join to discuss the new movie! ___ Check out http://clik.to/sf for other lists to join. A93MR48T18 ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?b1dhdK.b1tdRU Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
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{W&P} Nuclear War?
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{W&P} BREAKING NEWS: Israel pulls out of West Bank towns
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{W&P} Nuclear-armed rivals can solve their differences
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{W&P} Where'd everyone go???
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{W&P} They've finally done it! The Pledge of Allegiance is unconstitutional
Yep! They've finally done it! The Pledge of Allegiance is unconstitutional Here's the link to the CNN article detailing the court decision handed down today! http://www.cnn.com/2002/LAW/06/26/pledge.allegiance/index.html Anyone else think this decision will be overturned? John T ___ Check out http://clik.to/sf for other lists to join. A93MR48T18 ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?b1dhdK.b1tdRU Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^