Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Drama
On 16 March 2014 19:18, wikimediaau-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org wrote: John, given that you were not involved in this and you have integrity, would you care to undo what Steven and Charles done to Tony. Cheers Scotty I trust that John has the good sense not to do the mailing list equivalent of getting involved in a wheel war. Cheers, Craig ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Creation of Noongar (Aboriginal) Wikipedia
Absolutely. I've always been firm on this point that a bunch of non-Indigenous people blundering into the area, even if they have the absolute best and purest of intentions, will almost certainly end up doing more harm than good. Leonard Collard, the Professor who is driving this, is actually an elder of the Noongar people, so he's a lot better qualified to determine what's culturally appropriate than we are. Cheers, Craig On 8 March 2014 22:40, Andrew Owens orderinchao...@gmail.com wrote: Also I think something that, given the structure of their society and culture, they should be driving rather than us. I'd be open to helping Aboriginal groups who approached us for technical or other assistance. But we must always remember it's their culture and we're outsiders. At this stage I think it's best to leave it to the contact Gnangarra had with them and see where that goes. kindest regards Andrew On 8 March 2014 19:24, Craig Franklin cfrank...@halonetwork.net wrote: For what it's worth, this is something I thought about a lot during my time involved with WMAU. I don't think an Indigenous language Wikipedia is going to be viable in the short term. Collard cites Maori and Welsh as examples of situations where a language has been successfully revived, and both languages have reasonably active Wikipediae. But both, even during their darkest days, had tens of thousands of fluent speakers keeping things alive. Noongar, according to the press release, has less than 300. There are simply not the numbers of fluent speakers available to form a cohesive and active Wikipedia community for the sustained period of time that would be needed to produce something useful. Not that I don't think producing an encyclopaedia in the Noongar language is anything but a laudable and worthy idea, but I don't think that the Wikipedia model is one that is likely to bear fruit in this particular circumstance. On a more practical note, to create a new language edition of Wikipedia there are quite a few hoops to jump through, including the requirement to build a test edition on the Incubator with a viable community, which is quite a high hurdle to jump over. Cheers, Craig Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2014 11:19:50 +1100 From: Charles Gregory wikimediaau.li...@chuq.net To: Wikimedia Australia Chapter wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikimediaau-l] Creation of Noongar (Aboriginal) Wikipedia Message-ID: CADBtOrnpR3u1U92Sa46Kp-= jr8bwsjdkxodjtok4mw4zudv...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 http://www.news.uwa.edu.au/201402116439/arts-and-culture/new-media-throw-lifeline-ancient-language Has anyone seen this? Does it refer to a new website or a language version of Wikipedia? (Wikipedia doesn't appear to be mentioned in the article but I found it from this tweet - https://twitter.com/IndigenousTweet/status/433230348801961985 ) Regards, Charles -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaau-l/attachments/20140308/9647bbd8/attachment-0001.html ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Creation of Noongar (Aboriginal) Wikipedia
Oh, and on the other topic you raise, you're thinking of Oral citations. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research%3aOral_Citations Unfortunately, it didn't end happily on English Wikipedia as it was just too much of a cultural leap for everyone to make, which is why you don't see them anymore. Cheers, Craig On 8 March 2014 22:40, Andrew Owens orderinchao...@gmail.com wrote: Also I think something that, given the structure of their society and culture, they should be driving rather than us. I'd be open to helping Aboriginal groups who approached us for technical or other assistance. But we must always remember it's their culture and we're outsiders. At this stage I think it's best to leave it to the contact Gnangarra had with them and see where that goes. kindest regards Andrew ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] QR code proposal
Hi, I made a couple of comments on the talk page of the proposal. I'd point out that obviously not every GA has an obvious location for a plaque, and obviously those ones wouldn't be a part of this programme. On the other hand, there are plenty of articles, like [[Banksia oligantha]], that could conceivably have multiple plaques across different botanic gardens, for instance. So long as we're not sticking to every Good Article must have a plaque!, then I think this is a very good idea that's definitely within the chapter's current capacity. Cheers, Craig On 3 February 2014 22:00, wikimediaau-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org wrote: Message: 1 Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 12:00:40 +1100 From: Toby Hudson tob...@gmail.com To: Kerry Raymond kerry.raym...@gmail.com,Wikimedia Australia Chapter wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaau-l] QR code proposal Message-ID: cab2stcb5gfpgcgk0oet-pu_v-qxho9_4_7w_uqhniwu_gz+...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 But I do agree that it would be nice to work with smaller batches if the cost is not too much worse. Toby On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 10:31 AM, Kerry Raymond kerry.raym...@gmail.com wrote: I think it's a good idea. But then I took a quick look at the list of the GA articles for Australia. Yes, 500+ of them, but an awful lot don't seem to have an obvious place to put a plaque. http://tools.wmflabs.org/enwp10/cgi-bin/list2.fcgi?run=yesprojecta=Australiaquality=GA-Class Just starting with the first on the list https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Fisher where would we put a plaque for him? He's got a couple of memorials in the UK (where he was born and died) and there is a bust of him in Ballarat (a city with which he does not appear to have been associated). I think we'd face a similar problem with many of the GAs being biographies. Also, in your Freopedia experience, how much time has to go into getting permission from the owner of the place where we want to put the plaque? Again, with Freopedia, you were on the ground and probably well-connected. But Australia-wide it's probably going to be cold-calling in a lot of situations. Did you contact people directly yourself or get introduced by a local historical society or ...? Also, are there any constraints on the number of plaques in a batch? How few could we start with? You mention 100 as a trial in the proposal. Is that the minimum? Or could we run with less? Kerry ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] problem with Trove newspaper citations on Commons
Templates can (and often are) different across different sites. In the
case of Commons, it looks like {{cite news}} is just a wrapper for {{cite
journal}}. Looking a bit more closely, it seems that the newspaper
parameter is not used in the Commons version, so I moved the content from
there to journal and it seems to work.
Cheers,
Craig
Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2013 11:32:15 +1000
From: Kerry Raymond kerry.raym...@gmail.com
To: 'Wikimedia Australia Chapter'
wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: [Wikimediaau-l] problem with Trove newspaper citations on
Commons
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Can anyone advise me in relation to Trove newspaper citations on Commons?
I use Trove's Wikipedia-formatted citations on Wikipedia all the time and
all seems to work OK. However, when I upload a newspaper illustration for
use on Commons, I use these same citations as the source field (which seems
the most accurate way to refer to the source), the citations often (but not
always) break. Here's an example of a broken one:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Mother_Mary_Aikenhead.JPG
The problem seems to be that Commons wants a journal field and not the
newspaper field provided.
Kerry
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Re: [Wikimediaau-l] AGM results
Congraulations from me as well. I'm confident that this group is the right group to move the chapter forward, and I wish them the very best of luck for the coming year. Regards, Craig Franklin Andrew Owens said: Dear members and community, Firstly, thank you for the opportunity to serve again after a two-year absence from the committee. I hope that I will be able to fulfil your expectations :) Congratulations to Steven Zhang, who has been elected president of Wikimedia Australia for the 2013-14 term and to other members, all of whom were returned unopposed, and listed below: * Gideon Digby - Vice President * Andrew Owens - Secretary * Michael Billington - Ordinary Member * Charles Gregory - Ordinary Member * Pru Mitchell - Ordinary Member * Robert Myers - Ordinary Member The new committee will need to fill the role of Treasurer - no-one stepped forward at the AGM, so a vacancy was declared. Watch this space - we will be looking for ideas and opportunities to move forward. kindest regards Andrew Owens Secretary Wikimedia Australia ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
[Wikimediaau-l] Wikimedia Australia election closing soon
Hi All, Just a reminder that voting for the contested position of Wikimedia Australia President closes tomorrow at 4pm Melbourne time. If you are a financial member, I strongly urge you to cast a ballot at the following URL: http://membership.wikimedia.org.au/election/ Proxy forms and IRC nicknames are also due by 4pm tomorrow (Melbourne time). These should be sent to Graham Pearce (the Secretary) by this date. Proxy forms or IRC nicks received after this time will NOT be accepted, so please don't leave it until the last minute. There was no nomination made for the position of Treasurer for the coming year, so in accordance with the Rules of the Association (23(3), to be specific) I will call for nominations at the AGM. If you are interested in taking on this position (c'mon, it'll be fun!), but are unable to attend on SIf there are two or more nominations we will vote by a show of hands (the exact format of which will be determined in the unlikely event this occurs). Should nobody nominate for the position of Treasurer, or one of those currently running for Ordinary member is elected to the position causing a vacancy for ordinary member and there is no nomination for that subsequent vacancy, I will declare the position to be vacant and leave it to the next committee to sort out per Rule 21(4). If you have any further questions about the election process, please feel free to direct them either to myself or Adam Jenkins, the returning officer (at returningoffi...@wikimedia.org.au). If you have any other questions about the meeting, please contact either myself or the Secretary (Graham Pearce) and we'll be happy to help. Regards, Craig Franklin President - Wikimedia Australia ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
[Wikimediaau-l] My upcoming retirement as Wikimedia Australia President
Hi All, Now that the cat is out of the bag, I might as well confirm that I will NOT be running for President this year. Over the past three years, my employers have been extremely generous in giving me time off at short notice to attend to Wikimedia Australia related things - running workshops, attending meetings, or even just an afternoon off here and there to catch up on paperwork. However, some changes and restructuring where I work means that I won't have this sort of flexibility over the next six to twelve months. Being President is a time-consuming job and the chapter deserves to have someone doing it that can dedicate that time to it. In the next year or so, that won't be me, unfortunately. I want to emphasise that this is not related to any internal drama or other unpleasantness, and I intend to remain a member of the chapter and assist the new committee as much as time permits over the coming year. With a bit less administrative stuff on my plate it's my hope that I can get back to helping out with programmatic and on-wiki work to help the chapter meet its goals. I'm still considering whether to go for a position as an ordinary member to provide something of an orderly handover to the new committee and continue to provide them with some institutional memory. This would probably be a short term thing until the new committee members are moving under their own steam at which point I'd gracefully bow out. The number of other members who put their hands up for that position will probably also have a bearing on that decision! Cheers, Craig Franklin ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
[Wikimediaau-l] Fwd: [Wikisource-l] Fwd: Wikisource 10th aniversary proposal : Proofreading contest
Re-forwarding to this list. -- Forwarded message -- From: Craig Franklin craig.frank...@wikimedia.org.au Date: 10 November 2013 11:03 Subject: Re: [Wikisource-l] Fwd: Wikisource 10th aniversary proposal : Proofreading contest To: David Cuenca dacu...@gmail.com Cc: discussion list for Wikisource, the free library wikisourc...@lists.wikimedia.org, Wikimedia-au wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org, Carles Paredes Lanau carlespare...@gmail.com, James Hare james.h...@wikidc.org Hi David, A couple of thoughts on this, based on Kerry Raymond's earlier post to the WMAU list:- 1. What is the purpose of this competition, other than to celebrate the 10th anniversary? Is it to attract new users? Is it to get some key works transcribed very quickly? Is it to distribute movement-funded prizes to long-term contributors? The purpose of the competition will drive how it is structured. 2. As has been pointed out, an e-Reader, at least in Australia (and probably most other developed English speaking countries) is not all that impressive a prize, especially if you already have one or don't have an interest in having an e-Reader. I think a slightly better prize would be a gift certificate to somewhere like Amazon or Fishpond, so at least the winner can choose something they know they'll like. This may be different in other countries, of course. 3. A point-based system like what you propose is easy enough to administer, but if the approach is to attract new users, they'll probably notice that anyone that doesn't get in within the first couple of days is probably at a massive disadvantage to getting the prize. In turn, this will make the motivational aspect of the prize disappear for anyone that comes late. If we're counting on the prize to get users to do some work, I think we'd be disappointed. This can be solved a bit by having a prize pool that can be broken into smaller pieces, so rather than a $100 e-Reader you can distribute a $20 voucher every day (for example). This would mean that those who arrive late still have a chance of getting something. 4. My experience with running competitions like this is that if you approach it with a build it and they will come mindset, the only entrants you'll get are people who are already contributing in that fashion anyway. There needs to be some hook to get people who have not previously heard of or contributed to Wikisource to contribute. Otherwise they're never going to hear about it and we're never going to get our new users. Is there some mechanism to advertise this widely beyond just existing Wikisource users? 5. WMAU's experience with the Pitch In! project, where we did have the support of a major public institution as a hook to get those new users in, is that it's actually quite hard to get new users to Wikisource to 'stick'. I think we can expect a lot of users to do a single page, and a lot of new users to vanish once the contest is over. If recruitment is the goal, then there needs to be a strategy to continue engaging with users who arrive for the competition so that we retain them. I don't want to be the one that pours cold water on the whole idea (I do think it'd be wonderful to do *something* for the 10th anniversary), but I'm not clear on what we're actually trying to achieve with this competition. Cheers, Craig Franklin On 7 November 2013 09:40, David Cuenca dacu...@gmail.com wrote: Since this is the first time we do it and we don't have enough organizational capacity, it will be easier to hold independent contests. For the Catalan edition we are planning to do as follows: - the contest will be open from Nov 24th 00 UTC till Dec 1st 23:59 UTC. - 2 organizers select 3 books in secret (more will be added if needed). The books have OCR of acceptable quality and they are not too hard to format. The books chosen will be disclosed when the contest begins. One sample page will be offered, plus links to relevant help pages. We are putting it all together here: https://ca.wikisource.org/wiki/Viquitexts:Viquirepte_10%C3%A8_aniversari - the participants get 3 points for each completely corrected and formatted page, if they validate someone else's page, they get 1 point - the organizers can disqualify a participant if they mark pages as done without actually working on them - the prize will be an ebook reader (model TBD) KRLS has told me that he will try to have a counting script ready, if not, we will count it manually. So how many contests are we going to have? Italian, Catalan and, maybe WM-DC or WM-AU organize the English version? When everything is clear we should prepare an annoncement and publish it next week on the Wikimedia blog. Cheers, Micru On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 1:34 PM, Andrea Zanni zanni.andre...@gmail.comwrote: Regarding the cotest: how do you like an international contest, with both local wikisource and single user chart? Something like Wiki Loves Monuments, like this: https
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] [Wikisource-l] Fwd: Wikisource 10th aniversary proposal : Proofreading contest
Hi John, What sort of cost are we looking at to buy some nifty gadget as a prize? Is it something that could be done through our Volunteer Support Programme? Cheers, Craig Franklin President - Wikimedia Australia On 1 November 2013 16:55, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: Great concept. I think this would a great little project, and worth the expense for the WMAu chapter. I helped run a small wikisource competition with Wikimedia Indonesia (esp. Ivonne Siska) to transcribe a 550 page dictionary, and found it to be very successful, but does require quite a bit of time to run and help newbies. Ill write up a proposal if another WMAu member is willing to second and help organise the competition in Oz. -- John -- Forwarded message -- From: David Cuenca dacu...@gmail.com Date: Oct 31, 2013 10:09 PM Subject: [Wikisource-l] Wikisource 10th aniversary proposal : Proofreading contest To: discussion list for Wikisource, the free library wikisourc...@lists.wikimedia.org Cc: Talking with some members of Amical Wikimedia about how to celebrate the 10th aniversary, one of the proposals was to organize a proofreading contest. Basically, we would select some books for the participants to proofread and validate and they would gather points for each page without errors. The person with the most points would win a Kindle donated by Amical Wikimedia. However, we have been thinking that with the help of some members of the Wikisource User Group and other Chapters, then we could escalate it to an international proofreading contest, instead of being just regional. I guess ideally we would need 3 kindles and at least a volunteer from each community to organize it. What do you think of the idea? Would you or any chapter that would like to get involved? Micru ___ Wikisource-l mailing list wikisourc...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l ___ Wikisource-l mailing list wikisourc...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] [Wikisource-l] Fwd: Wikisource 10th aniversary proposal : Proofreading contest
Well, that would be well within the realm of what the WMAU Volunteer Support Programme would be able to fund, if one of our members were to apply: http://www.wikimedia.org.au//wiki/Volunteer_Support_Programme Cheers, Craig On 4 November 2013 22:18, Andrea Zanni zanni.andre...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I'd be 100 dollars/euros, something low budget (like a Kindle or a Kobo). Aubrey On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Craig Franklin cfrank...@halonetwork.netwrote: Hi John, What sort of cost are we looking at to buy some nifty gadget as a prize? Is it something that could be done through our Volunteer Support Programme? Cheers, Craig Franklin President - Wikimedia Australia On 1 November 2013 16:55, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: Great concept. I think this would a great little project, and worth the expense for the WMAu chapter. I helped run a small wikisource competition with Wikimedia Indonesia (esp. Ivonne Siska) to transcribe a 550 page dictionary, and found it to be very successful, but does require quite a bit of time to run and help newbies. Ill write up a proposal if another WMAu member is willing to second and help organise the competition in Oz. -- John -- Forwarded message -- From: David Cuenca dacu...@gmail.com Date: Oct 31, 2013 10:09 PM Subject: [Wikisource-l] Wikisource 10th aniversary proposal : Proofreading contest To: discussion list for Wikisource, the free library wikisourc...@lists.wikimedia.org Cc: Talking with some members of Amical Wikimedia about how to celebrate the 10th aniversary, one of the proposals was to organize a proofreading contest. Basically, we would select some books for the participants to proofread and validate and they would gather points for each page without errors. The person with the most points would win a Kindle donated by Amical Wikimedia. However, we have been thinking that with the help of some members of the Wikisource User Group and other Chapters, then we could escalate it to an international proofreading contest, instead of being just regional. I guess ideally we would need 3 kindles and at least a volunteer from each community to organize it. What do you think of the idea? Would you or any chapter that would like to get involved? Micru ___ Wikisource-l mailing list wikisourc...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l ___ Wikisource-l mailing list wikisourc...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l ___ Wikisource-l mailing list wikisourc...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
[Wikimediaau-l] Thinking of running for committee?
Hi All, With the conclusion of our recent SGM, attention now turns to our upcoming Annual General Meeting (AGM), which will be called Soon(tm). I intend that this meeting will be a largely procedural affair, solely for the tabling of reports and the announcement of the new committee. This is in line with the practice of many other incorporated associations. With that in mind, if you're thinking about running for the committee next year, now is the time to decide which position you would like to run for, and start lining up some nominators. For the first time this year, we will elect a management committee of eight members, consisting of four officers (President, Vice-President, Treasurer and Secretary), and four ordinary members. You can be nominated for a maximum of one officer position and one ordinary member position. In the event that not enough nominations are received to fill all the positions, further nominations will be called for at the AGM. Further details will be released as they come to hand. In the meantime, if you have not expressed a preference to receive notice of general meetings via email, and do not have any particular requirement to receive a paper copy of the notice in the mail, please do consider advising the Secretary that you'd prefer to receive your notice electonically, per rule 12(2)(b)( http://www.wikimedia.org.au/wiki/Rules#12._Notice_of_general_meetings). Not only does this save the chapter money on postage costs, it also does a little bit to save some trees and save the planet. Regards, Craig Franklin President - Wikimedia Australia ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Bushfire Wikipedia interview
Hi, I'm in Rainbow Beach this weekend on holiday (and hadn't intended to get involved in WP stuff), but Whiteghost is correct here. I would point out that even Wikipedia, like most encyclopædias itself recommends that you use the site as the start of research and gaining an understanding of a topic, not as the complete sum of any reading you do on it. A cursory reading of a Wikipedia article will not on its own give a government minister enough depth of knowledge to start forming national policy on any issue. Cheers, Craig Franklin President - Wikimedia Australia On 25 October 2013 09:08, wikimediaau-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org wrote: Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 10:07:58 +1100 From: G. White whiteghost@gmail.com To: Wikimedia Australia Chapter wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Bushfire Wikipedia interview Message-ID: camrpczwjw3vof4yu8-wm6muxmtnewkdjeab+wmz55adaxc2...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I heard that comment on radio and immediately added a balancing ref to a scientific opinion https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?shva=1#label/The+Conversation/141dca106db92c85 n that was published in *The Conversation* (an online journal of expert views in easy-to-understand language, or as they put it academic excellence, journalistic flair). This was followed by a ref to a more comprehensive report. Then a little while later a section on climate change was added. I don't think that the demographics of WP are relevant here. The points to make about this, I think, are these: - the politician using WP the way he did only referred to the first lead paragraph without reading or noting the following summary qualifiers that show the complexity of the matter. - WP provides this this complexity if you pay attention to it and read it properly; - the ongoing improvements show the continuous updating; - the usefulness is being able to find easily, for example, BOTH an easy to read scientific view AND a detailed report. A good reader service, really. Whiteghost.ink On 25 October 2013 09:52, Kerry Raymond kerry.raym...@gmail.com wrote: Younger editors are more likely to be defending against vandalism than adding content (as a gross generalization) Sent from my iPad On 25/10/2013, at 9:49 AM, Kerry Raymond kerry.raym...@gmail.com wrote: I think that's a largely anecdotal depiction of WP editors. The 2011 survey showed average age of editors was 31 but that older editors made more contributions than younger ones. The survey showed about 90% male. It showed above average education levels and did not ask if they were interested in military history (although I agree with you that military history does seem to be well-covered in WP, but then so are episodes of Seinfeld). I don't recall if it asked about location or languages spoken. I do recall another study that concluded in the western English-speaking nations, wikipedia editor numbers are broadly proportional to the general population, so given a lot of people live in West Coast USA, one would expect a lot of West Coast USA editors commensurately. Sent from my iPad On 25/10/2013, at 9:27 AM, Leigh Blackall leighblack...@gmail.com wrote: While I wouldn't advise mentioning it in a media interview, if there were someway to remind people that Wikipedia is ultimately political, and deeper analysis of the edit history and userbase reveals this wonderfully. If you did venture into this topic Liam, you might point to the profile that the stats for English WP paint... What were they: young adult male from the West Coast USA, educated, interested in military history, English as a primary or only language... If opportunity presented, you might point out that this self consciousness is part of a larger openness in the Wikimedia projects, something quite unique for large institutions. I guess it's a complicated way of reinforcing the advice to check sources. On 25/10/2013 9:11 AM, Kerry Raymond kerry.raym...@gmail.com wrote: One could also comment that the citations added in the climate change section are to major scientific organisations in Australia and internationally. Sent from my iPad On 25/10/2013, at 9:07 AM, Kerry Raymond kerry.raym...@gmail.com wrote: The article has had a lot of edits in the past week and the climate change section looks like it has been added after the Greg Hunt story. I note a few familiar usernames in the edit history as well as IPs. some reverting has occurred. How to phrase it ... Hmm ... I think a key point is that WP is a living encyclopedia and events (being both the current bush fires themselves and the Greg Hunt statement) focus attention onto those parts of WP, which results in them being updated and improved. In that regard some recent edits have added information about the relationship between climate change and bush fires
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Funding Query
Bidgee and Toby, Thanks for preparing and adding your info to these spreadsheets. I know that filling out paperwork isn't fun but it's one of those things that has to be done, so thanks for stepping up and leading the way. I do have some figures on editathons across NSW and Qld that I will add as soon as I can locate them. Cheers, Craig On 11 October 2013 18:35, wikimediaau-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org wrote: Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 19:35:13 +1100 From: Robert Myers bid...@me.com To: Wikimedia Australia Chapter wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Funding Query Message-ID: 271ccc96-0449-4d48-b0c5-ccde898cd...@me.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I've added my two grants, but the equipment cost (amount that I paid out of my own pocket) is just an estimate for now, until I can locate the receipt. - Bidgee On 10/10/2013, at 10:39 PM, Toby Hudson tob...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Kerry, My preferred model would be that each project/editathon/grant leader should report their results in this tabular format, (perhaps as a partial replacement for the written reports we've previously submitted). We are usually pretty proud of our how our events go, so I expect individuals would often be happy to formally report that back to WMAU if there's a procedure in place. To kick the process off, I've copied the WMF spreadsheet Whiteghost linked to, and have started adapting it for her suggestions and for the Australian context (e.g. Aussie dollars and Photographic Equipment Grants). I've also added complete current data from my 2011 small grant, and links to the reports from some others I know about. Everybody should feel free to start adding data on programs they know about, and changing field titles to suit the programs we run. I'll start adding some of the SLNSW and QSA stuff I know about. Here it is in all it's glory - it is open for anyone with the link to edit: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvHbaGUCSbP9dGppX1dhOWxka1I5MTdhMEJHcU9ILUEusp=sharing Toby On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 8:07 PM, Kerry Raymond kerry.raym...@gmail.com wrote: Toby You make an excellent point and I doubt anyone will disagree that it would be a Good Thing to do this. Would those volunteering to do it please put their hands up now? [Pauses, cups hand around ear listening ...] Therein lies the problem that most volunteer organisations face. Volunteers do the tasks they enjoy (or at least derive satisfaction from), because they do it for free in their leisure time. Now sometimes a volunteer organisation is fortunate that there are different strokes for different folks and someone else will be quite happy to pick up the tasks another person didn't want to do. But sometimes there is nobody to pick it up some tasks (I recollect another incorporated association that endlessly tried to establish a roster for cleaning the toilet -- which was doomed to failure because nobody wanted to do it, even though everyone was in favour of a clean toilet) and I fear that metrics may be in that category in WMAU. If so, this is when we need to look at outsourcing that task. As you will all know (but maybe don't remember) we do now have a contracting policy http://www.wikimedia.org.au/wiki/Proposal:Contracting and, any moment now (drum roll), John V will be outlining the arrangements for the contracting subcommittee so we can get outsourcing happening. If there are tasks we need to outsource, we need to do this now while we still have funds to pay for the work that needs doing. If we delay until we have no funds, then we are in a serious catch-22 situation. I note that a number of the chapters who receive FDC funding appear to use at least part of those funds to employ project management staff, suggesting that this is the kind of thing that is hard to resource with volunteers in most chapters. Kerry -Original Message- From: wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Toby Hudson Sent: Thursday, 10 October 2013 4:16 PM To: Craig Franklin; Wikimedia Australia Chapter Subject: Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Funding Query On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 10:59 PM, Craig Franklin cfrank...@halonetwork.net wrote: I also agree that the chapter and its volunteers *have* done a lot of great work over the past few years, and I think you've hit the nail on the head that we've often failed to effectively communicate our successes. Part of any projects going forward will be a need to say here's how we're going to measure success before we actually dive in on any project, so that we can either use that measurement as justification for further funding, or use that measurement to figure out what went wrong and make sure we don't make the same mistake twice
[Wikimediaau-l] Wikimedia Takes Toodyay Show
Hi All, If you're in the Perth or the Wheatbelt Area, there are some Wikipedians who will be at the Toodyay show tomorrow for a Wikimedia Takes event: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10202114507964131 If you've always wanted to learn a bit more about Wikimedia Commons, if you enjoy taking photos (and there are LOTS of photo opportunities in the Toodyay area), or you're an experienced editor interested in helping prospective new contributors out, head on down and say hello! Cheers, Craig Franklin ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Funding Query
Absolutely fantastic news Gnangarra! I'm so pleased to see that something has come out of all the hard work that I know you and other WA editors have been putting into this over quite an extended period of time. Bravo, and very well done! Cheers, Craig On 9 October 2013 22:07, Gnangarra gnanga...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All While on the subject of doing something I'd like to take this opportunity to announce https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:GLAM/Toodyaypedia *Toodyaypedia*our latest WikiTown QR project, this comes as of the result of a lot of hard work by a number of people including our President who spoke with the Shire while in Perth to launch Freopedia, this will include a Wikitakes event on Saturday https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Takes_Toodyay_Show where SatuSuro, Andrew Owens and myself will spend the day unlocking mysteries of Wikipedia for the public while shire staff will be approaching people with cameras to upload photographs from the Toodyay Agriculture Show, which also happens be celebrating 160 years since its first show(there has been only 4 years where the show hasnt occured). This will be followed up with workshops on 2 November. Shire Museum staff will be using Wikiversity to create a number of exercises for school students to do prior to visiting the museum, while at the museum and follow up projects afterwards, while these will be Toodyay museum specific the formula/formats etc will readily replicable for any museum. Shire Tourism staff will be focusing on developing Wikivoyage content for the region, Library and Community Resource centre staff will be readily available to help the community add content, today SatuSuro and myself spent 4 hours with them working thorugh contributing to Commons, it was a wonderful collaborative effort where we showed one person how to create an account and they then help other participants do the same, then I show walked the group thorugh uploading a photograph using upload wizard they each then went on to upload more photographs and not just ones I had supplied for the workshop but also some of their photographs by the end of the session they were uploading their own photographs, adding categories, then adding content to en.wp articles. Given the small number of regular contributors in WA the 8 new people today are a significant increase in editors over here and definately took the idea of contributing Watch this space more exciting things happening soon Cheers Gideon On 9 October 2013 18:04, Craig Franklin cfrank...@halonetwork.net wrote: Hi Nick, Absolutely, a lot of volunteers have pitched in at some time or another and done some great work that have (in my opinion) led to positive outcomes for the movement. Enough that I'm not going to even try to enumerate them all for fear that I'll leave someone out :-). Cheers, Craig On 9 October 2013 12:22, wikimediaau-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.orgwrote: Message: 2 Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 10:42:29 + From: Nick Dowling nick_dowl...@hotmail.com To: Wikimedia Australia Chapter wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Funding Query Message-ID: blu173-w384c2d1bcf759720b58a47ef...@phx.gbl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Bidgee has also provided excellent outcomes for the photography grant(s?) he received. Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 18:38:19 +0800 From: gnanga...@gmail.com To: wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org CC: cfrank...@halonetwork.net Subject: Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Funding Query well some that come to mind https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Freo - Freopedia only cost for WMAU has been Craig to Perth for the Launch, and from reports was well recieved at Wikimania in Hong Kong... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Takes_Waroona, prelude to a Wikitown there. then there 2 of us doign a workshop tomorrow in Toodyay, and 3 of us being part of the Shire of Toodyay demostrations on Saturday for a third WikiTown there -- WMAU approved $200 to cover some expenses but well below the true costs of running the two add to that, the work of SatuSuro https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wiki_Takes_Western_Australian_Wheatbelt_Railways_2013 and to that a larger Wheatbelt project... Its not talking about ideas thats going to change things it needs more people to get out there and do things, Gideon ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l End of Wikimediaau-l Digest, Vol 85, Issue 14 * ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l -- GN. Photo Gallery: http://gnangarra.redbubble.com Gn. Blogg: http
[Wikimediaau-l] Fwd: Funding Query
Hi, I just want to endorse Gnangarra's final comment here as well - the best way to get projects going is to get out and do them. I was at a very interesting Wikimania presentation given by Asaf Bartov in Hong Kong where he posited that you needed at least five people involved in a project for it to have good prospects of success. The projects that Gnangarra is spearheading in WA meet that criteria, but I would really like to see more projects being offered up that everyone across the country could get excited about and make meaningful contributions to, preferably without needing to leave the comfort of their own home. On the flipside, if you sit around waiting for someone else to take the initiative and do the hard work on that project you think is really important, then you might just be waiting for a long time ;-). The primary constraint for Wikimedia Australia in the past couple of years has been volunteer time, not money. I expect that that will continue to be the case for the next twelve to eighteen months at least. Cheers, Craig On 8 October 2013 20:38, Gnangarra gnanga...@gmail.com wrote: well some that come to mind https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Freo - Freopedia only cost for WMAU has been Craig to Perth for the Launch, and from reports was well recieved at Wikimania in Hong Kong... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Takes_Waroona, prelude to a Wikitown there. then there 2 of us doign a workshop tomorrow in Toodyay, and 3 of us being part of the Shire of Toodyay demostrations on Saturday for a third WikiTown there -- WMAU approved $200 to cover some expenses but well below the true costs of running the two add to that, the work of SatuSuro https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wiki_Takes_Western_Australian_Wheatbelt_Railways_2013 and to that a larger Wheatbelt project... Its not talking about ideas thats going to change things it needs more people to get out there and do things, Gideon ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
[Wikimediaau-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Fwd: Notification about Wikimedia user account security issue
This issue may affect subscribers on this list, especially those who have edited Wikivoyage or the Wikimania wikis. Cheers, Craig -- Forwarded message -- From: Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org Date: 03/10/2013 4:03 PM Subject: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Fwd: Notification about Wikimedia user account security issue To: wikimediaannounc...@lists.wikimedia.org Cc: FYI. -- Forwarded message -- From: Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org Date: Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 10:56 PM Subject: Notification about Wikimedia user account security issue To: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org See also: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/October_2013_private_data_security_issue On October 1, 2013, we learned about an implementation error that made private user information (specifically, user email addresses, password hashes, session tokens, and last login timestamp) for approximately 37,000 Wikimedia project users accessible to volunteers with access to the Wikimedia LabsDB infrastructure. LabsDB, launched in May 2013, is designed to give volunteers the ability to write tools and generate reports that make use of data from our databases in real-time. This supports bottom-up innovation by the Wikimedia community. As part of this process, private data is automatically redacted before volunteers are given access to the data. Unfortunately, for some of Wikimedia’s wikis[1], the database triggers used to redact private data failed to take effect due to a schema incompatibility, and LabsDB users had access to private user data for some user accounts in these specific wiki databases. As of October 1, 228 users have access to LabsDB, and the window of availability of this data was May 29, 2013 to October 1, 2013. This issue was discovered and reported by a trusted volunteer, and access to the data in question was revoked within 15 minutes of the report. We have no evidence to suggest that the private data in question was exported in bulk or used for malicious purposes, but we cannot definitively exclude the possibility. As a precautionary measure, we have invalidated all affected user sessions, and are requiring affected users to change their password on their next login. We have also sent an email notification to affected users with a confirmed email address. We regret this mistake. LabsDB is still a new part of our infrastructure, and we will fully audit the redaction process, so as to minimize any risk of a future mistake of this nature. Sincerely, Erik Moeller Vice President of Engineering Product Development Contact information Should you have any questions, please contact us via email to: accountsecur...@wikimedia.org You can also reach the Wikimedia Foundation at: Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. 149 New Montgomery Street Floor 6 San Francisco, CA 94105 United States Phone: +1-415-839-6885 Fax: +1-415-882-0495 [1] List of affected databases: aswikisource bewikisource dewikivoyage elwikivoyage enwikivoyage eswikivoyage frwikivoyage guwikisource hewikivoyage itwikivoyage kowikiversity lezwiki loginwiki minwiki nlwikivoyage plwikivoyage ptwikivoyage rowikivoyage ruwikivoyage sawikiquote slwikiversity svwikivoyage testwikidatawiki tyvwiki ukwikivoyage vecwiktionary votewiki wikidatawiki wikimania2013wiki wikimania2014wiki -- Erik Möller VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation -- Erik Möller VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation ___ Please note: all replies sent to this mailing list will be immediately directed to Wikimedia-l, the public mailing list of the Wikimedia community. For more information about Wikimedia-l: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ WikimediaAnnounce-l mailing list wikimediaannounc...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaannounce-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
[Wikimediaau-l] Media Release about WMAU's collaboration with the Australian Paralympic Movement
Hi All, As you may be aware, Wikimedia Australia (WMAU) has been working for a period of time now to improve the quality of coverage on Wikimedia projects of Paralympic and disabled sports. A joint project between WMAU, the Australian Paralympic Committee (APC) and the University of Queensland (UQ) has recently been successful in attracting funding from the Australian Research Council. Our friends at UQ have issued a media release on behalf of those involved in the project that gives a bit of background as to what it's all about and what we hope to achieve: http://www.uq.edu.au/news/index.html?article=26747 At WMAU, we feel that apart from making more information available on Wikimedia on this often neglected area, projects like this one have a role in increasing diversity on our projects, in this case, encouraging more disabled people to participate by providing outreach and editing workshops focusing on a topic that is of interest to many of them. Regards, Craig Franklin President - Wikimedia Australia ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] [wmau:members] Re: Wikimedia Australia public meeting today at 4PM AEST
Hi Anthony, Yes, I have just published the transcript here: http://www.wikimedia.org.au//wiki/Meeting:Public_(2013-09-01)/Transcript It was a good meeting with some interesting ideas raised. Cheers, Craig On 1 September 2013 17:27, Anthony Cole ahcole...@gmail.com wrote: Are the minutes/transcript published anywhere? Anthony Cole http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Anthonyhcole Memberships secretary Wiki Project Med Foundationhttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Project_Med On Sun, Sep 1, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Steven Zhang cro0...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Just a quick reminder that there will be a public meeting today at 4PM, in the #wikimedia-au IRC channel on the freenode network. You are all welcome. Regards, Steven Zhang Committee, Wikimedia Australia Sent from my iPhone ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] [wmau:members] Re: Wikimedia Australia public meeting today at 4PM AEST
Hi, A few months ago we had a special WA friendly meeting time (6pm to 7pm AWST, 8pm to 9pm AEST), which worked out rather well and attracted a different crowd to normal, how about we do that again for the October meeting? Will this provide a problem for anyone given that daylight savings is starting soon for the states that have it? Cheers, Craig On 1 September 2013 22:26, Gnangarra gnanga...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting to read but there is more than just Sydney based events in the coming month, the next WMAU event is in Fremantle on the 11 September see the main page for informationhttp://www.wikimedia.org.au/wiki/Wikimedia_Australiabut really the community should consider whether the first Sunday is a good choice, this month it coincided with fathers day, but many other months it causes clashes with long weekends as the first monday is also frequently the day of public holidays. The other issue is the timing of these IRC chats and whether its causing members to be excluded from participation as these IRC chats have been attracting the same group of regulars, and very rarely do we see anyone else participate, while recognising that we have 2-3 hour time differences across our membership so therefore there is no one perfect solution. Gnangarra On 1 September 2013 19:04, Craig Franklin cfrank...@halonetwork.netwrote: Hi Anthony, Yes, I have just published the transcript here: http://www.wikimedia.org.au//wiki/Meeting:Public_(2013-09-01)/Transcript It was a good meeting with some interesting ideas raised. Cheers, Craig On 1 September 2013 17:27, Anthony Cole ahcole...@gmail.com wrote: Are the minutes/transcript published anywhere? Anthony Cole http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Anthonyhcole Memberships secretary Wiki Project Med Foundationhttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Project_Med On Sun, Sep 1, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Steven Zhang cro0...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Just a quick reminder that there will be a public meeting today at 4PM, in the #wikimedia-au IRC channel on the freenode network. You are all welcome. Regards, Steven Zhang Committee, Wikimedia Australia Sent from my iPhone ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l -- GN. Photo Gallery: http://gnangarra.redbubble.com Gn. Blogg: http://gnangarra.wordpress.com ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] [wmau:members] RE: Annual Plan 2014: instructional videos and the larger question of SMART-vs-BHAG
Yes, this. Unfortunately a great deal of documentation has been made obsolete with one fell stroke (not that that's a reason not to do it, it just creates a whole bunch of work for us). Cheers, Craig On 21 July 2013 16:17, Gnangarra gnanga...@gmail.com wrote: hmm many of those will need to be redone/duplicated with the changes to visual editor ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Reminder: Wikimedia Australia monthly open meeting
Hi All, The transcript for the meeting has been posted here: http://www.wikimedia.org.au/wiki/Meeting:Public_(2013-07-07)/Transcript Participation was again low this month. Is the time on a Sunday afternoon no longer convenient for the majority of members, or was there simply no interest in the topics being discussed this time around? We're very willing to experiment with different times and/or mediums if anyone would like to try anything a bit different. I do notice that we had a great turnout when we did the meeting on a Sunday night back in April, would people like to try that again? Regards, Craig Franklin Wikimedia Australia On 6 July 2013 10:54, Craig Franklin cfrank...@halonetwork.net wrote: Hi All, Just a quick reminder that the monthly Wikimedia Australia public meeting will be taking place tomorrow at 3pm AEST (2:30pm ACST, 1pm AWST) on IRC at #wikimedia-au. This is your opportunity to quiz members of the management committee on issues relating to the chapter. It has been an eventful month, some suggested topics for discussion are: - Wikimedia Australia's charity status being approved - Upcoming annual plan and FDC applications - Rule changes for the next AGM - World War One editathon - ...any other topic you'd like to discuss. As usual, if you have any specific questions for the committee members ahead of time, it would be appreciated if they could be provided to the relevant person ahead of time so that we can give you a proper answer on the day and not have to take it on notice. Cheers, Craig Franklin President - Wikimedia Australia ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Reminder: Wikimedia Australia monthly open meeting
We ended up submitting Freopedia, LangCamp, and the Regional Workshops programmes (in that order). We didn't need to discuss the #1 spot because Freopedia had it ;-). Cheers, Craig On 9 July 2013 20:44, Gnangarra gnanga...@gmail.com wrote: Craig the coolest projects thing, have you forgotten about your time in perth already... On 9 July 2013 18:11, Craig Franklin cfrank...@halonetwork.net wrote: Hi All, The transcript for the meeting has been posted here: http://www.wikimedia.org.au/wiki/Meeting:Public_(2013-07-07)/Transcript Participation was again low this month. Is the time on a Sunday afternoon no longer convenient for the majority of members, or was there simply no interest in the topics being discussed this time around? We're very willing to experiment with different times and/or mediums if anyone would like to try anything a bit different. I do notice that we had a great turnout when we did the meeting on a Sunday night back in April, would people like to try that again? Regards, Craig Franklin Wikimedia Australia On 6 July 2013 10:54, Craig Franklin cfrank...@halonetwork.net wrote: Hi All, Just a quick reminder that the monthly Wikimedia Australia public meeting will be taking place tomorrow at 3pm AEST (2:30pm ACST, 1pm AWST) on IRC at #wikimedia-au. This is your opportunity to quiz members of the management committee on issues relating to the chapter. It has been an eventful month, some suggested topics for discussion are: - Wikimedia Australia's charity status being approved - Upcoming annual plan and FDC applications - Rule changes for the next AGM - World War One editathon - ...any other topic you'd like to discuss. As usual, if you have any specific questions for the committee members ahead of time, it would be appreciated if they could be provided to the relevant person ahead of time so that we can give you a proper answer on the day and not have to take it on notice. Cheers, Craig Franklin President - Wikimedia Australia ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l -- GN. Photo Gallery: http://gnangarra.redbubble.com Gn. Blogg: http://gnangarra.wordpress.com ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] [wmau:members] Visual Editor - your thoughts?
My short opinion is that it's promising, but it clearly needs work. It is not ready for a global go-live yet, but its deployment seems to be driven by considerations other than whether it's ready for Production use. The good: From my work at outreach workshops, this is by a long shot the #1 requested feature for new users. We shouldn't underestimate what a challenge getting to this point is from a software development perspective, especially given how ad-hoc and inconsistent the template infrastructure has become. For basic editing tasks, it's pretty good, and I'm sure once it stabilises a bit new editors will take to it enthusiastically. The bad: There are too many features missing for serious power-editing. In particular, the code to add images and templates has been very inconsistent for me, working some of the time and not at other times. It's good that the referencing feature is built right in, but it's confusing to use, it took me a bit to work out how to simply add a new reference, and it's also strictly inferior to the excellent ProveIt tool ( http://proveit.wmflabs.org/), which appears not to be compatible with VE yet. It's also slow and bloats the page size significantly, which will likely be more of a problem for the Foundation's target editor groups in developing countries than it is for me. The icons seem to be of the mystery meat variety and The ugly: I've removed it from my interface for now, but I'll probably give it another try in a couple of months once the features have stabilised a bit. Cheers, Craig On 3 July 2013 16:03, Kerry Raymond kerry.raym...@gmail.com wrote: For those of you who have taken the Visual Editor for a test drive, what did you think? ** ** We have seen Gnangarra’s thoughts already and so I thought I’d share mine. ** ** To start, I should say that I sincerely believe that having a visual editor should make editing Wikipedia much more accessible to those folk who are used to Microsoft Word etc and not accustomed to seeing markup. I am all in favour of this initiative. I have worked for many years using WYSIWYG tools like Word (so-so) and FrameMaker (much better) and SeaMonkey (beats raw HTML any day), so I don’t come into this discussion with a mindset that “markup = good”, quite the opposite. As they say in The Matrix, “why send a man to do a machine’s job?”. ** ** However, in its current state, I don’t think the VisualEditor (VE) achieves its goal. There’s a few reasons: ** ** 1. It doesn’t run on Internet Explorer, which is the out-of-the-box browser when you have a Windows PC. The less tech-savvy a person is, the more likely I think they are to have a Windows PC with IE. So, the very people being targeted with the VE probably can’t use it because they have the wrong browser. ** ** 1. The functionality of the VE seems very limited. Yes, I can type text. Yes, I make text bold/italic. Yes, I can make a heading. Yes I can make a link if the name of the link will suffice as the text, e.g. [[dog]] but not if I want [[dog|puppy]]. Or, at least, I could not work out how to do it. Although the toolbar seems to suggest there is a way of working with images, references and transclusions, I failed to be able to do anything at all with them. Now, it may be that I am too conditioned by the existing editor to be able to think in the new paradigm of the VE; perhaps what should be done will be obvious to the less-conditioned newbie editor. Although I am a bit uncertain that the newbie will know what “transclusion” means; indeed I think if they do know what it means, then they would already be familiar with markup. ** ** 1. The VE cannot always be used. If you try to change the content of an article with the VE, you will often get green-diagonal-stripes appearing across the chunk you are trying to edit with a message that the Visual Editor cannot edit that sort of material. You have to switch into Edit Source (aka the existing markup editor) to work with it. ** ** I can see that if a newbie comes along (with the right brand of browser) and clicks Edit for the first time because they’ve seen a spelling error or want to add an extra sentence, then the VE should work for them, unless of course they want to do it in a photo caption or inside a table or …. But, as it stands, there is no real growth path for them to develop their editing skills beyond such very simple changes. They either have to stay locked into a world of very limited functionality or they have to click Edit Source for the first time and deal with markup for the first time. I guess the question that only time will be able to answer is whether the transition to the markup editor is made in any way easier by the initial VE experience as opposed to the previous situation where you were dropped straight into editing markup. However, for even a
[Wikimediaau-l] WANTED: Wikimedians in Newcastle, Wollongong, Parkes or Port Macquarie
Hi Wikimedians, As part of Wikimedia Australia's continuing partnership with the State Library of New South Wales, we are looking for Wikimedians who are in Newcastle, Wollongong, Parkes or Port Macquarie (or willing to travel) to participate in Wikimedia training sessions to introduce interested members of the public to the wonderful world of Wikimedia. If you need to travel, reasonable accommodation and travel costs will be covered by the chapter. You can read a little bit about our previous workshops and activities with SLNSW at the following link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:GLAM/State_Library_of_New_South_Wales/Events No training experience is necessary, but we do ask that you have some (English) Wikipedia experience yourself and over the age of 18. If you're interested, or have any questions, please contact me by email and we can discuss some possible dates. Regards, Craig Franklin President - Wikimedia Australia ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] [wmau:members] Wikimedia Australia COI Policy
Hi All, I'm pleased to advise that this document has now been adopted (with a few modifications, thanks to Brian and Anthony for those) by the committee at its meeting this afternoon as an official policy. This policy in its current form is a culmination of a lot of work by a lot of people over a lot of time (in fact, the first draft predates my time on the committee), it has been a real collaborative effort in the best traditions of our movement to put it together. Like all policies, it will no doubt require change and adjustment as circumstances change, but its great that we have finally gotten a policy to cover this very important matter in place. Regards, Craig Franklin Wikimedia Australia On 22 May 2013 08:26, Brian Salter-Duke b_d...@bigpond.net.au wrote: On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 09:50:52PM +1000, Craig Franklin wrote: Hi All, At our meeting on the weekend, the committee has finalised a draft of a conflict of interest (COI) policy to apply to members of the chapter's committee. Members might recall that in the lead up to the AGM last year, the topic of committee COI came up and prompted some very heated discussions. It's my hope that by formally codifying some expectations, we can avoid this sort of thing occurring again. Accordingly, the committee seeks public comment on the draft policy. It is expected that unless there is widespread opposition to this draft necessitating a complete rewrite, that we will adopt this policy at our next regularly scheduled meeting on 16 June. http://www.wikimedia.org.au/wiki/Conflict_of_interest_policy Comment is welcome either on the talk page, on this mailing list, or by private email. An excellent document. Well done. When I started reading it I was going to comment that incorporation should be mentioned in the first sentence by:- Wikimedia Australia is a non-profit organisation, incorporated in Victoria and recognised by the Wikimedia Foundation as an official chapter, that .. but then I found that incorporation is covered in detail near the end. It still might be a good idea to mention it in the first sentence. Cheers, Brian - a pedantic ex-Public Officer. Regards, Craig Franklin President - Wikimedia Australia -- Brian Salter-Duke bd...@wikimedia.org.au Active on English Wikipedia, Meta-Wiki, Wikiversity, and others. [[User:Bduke]] is single user account with en:Wikipedia main account. ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] [wmau:members] renaming templates ...
Template:QueenslandHeritageRegister is a bit unwieldly but it also provided a descriptive label for the tin. That's what I'd go with. I think (and I'm happy to be corrected here), that if you Move a template and leave a redirect in place it won't break any extant use of the template on other pages. Can anyone confirm ths? Cheers, Craig On 16 June 2013 22:21, Kerry Raymond kerry.raym...@gmail.com wrote: Wearing my “plain old editor” hat, I need some advice. ** ** There is a template ** ** http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Cite_CHIMS ** ** which is used to cite entries in the Queensland Heritage Register (a subject near and dear to my editing heart, at 3am in my pyjamas). Anyhow this template was broken thanks to the never-ending reorganisations of the Queensland Government and needs some updating. Most of the updating I have been able to do but the remaining problem is the name of the template. CHIMS is the name of some database software (which may or may not still be in use) but whatever it’s not a name visible to the public and not an obvious name you would think of if you were looking to cite the Queensland Heritage Register. So I think it needs renaming to something else. Two questions: ** ** 1. What to call it instead of CHIMS? Should I go for something longer and more descriptive, say QueenslandHeritageRegister? Something a bit shorter QldHeritageReg or very snappy QHR? 2. What are the mechanics of renaming a template? I searched for help but could not anything helpful. Maybe it is not possible to rename a template? ** ** I welcome any suggestions or alternative solutions to the problem. I guess one alternative might be to leave it as CHIMS and just try to document it in places where likely editors will notice it, say, on the Talk page for the article and the category Queensland Heritage Register. Is that considered an appropriate use of Talk pages? Will anyone notice it there?* *** ** ** Kerry ** ** ** ** ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] [wmau:members] renaming templates ...
Yeah, on reflection keeping it as {{Cite QHR}} is probably the way to go -
a quick Google search doesn't show that many potential clashes (a medical
journal, a medical outsourcing company, and a few tech companies). Just
don't forget to update the documentation, and preferably mention that it
used to be CHIMS.
Cheers,
Craig
On 16 June 2013 22:34, Russavia russavia.wikipe...@gmail.com wrote:
Correct it won't break a thing. But I subscribe to the KISS principle,
just use Template:QHR -- all pertinent information should be
documented on the template documentation page.
Cheers,
Russavia
On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 8:26 PM, Craig Franklin
cfrank...@halonetwork.net wrote:
Template:QueenslandHeritageRegister is a bit unwieldly but it also
provided
a descriptive label for the tin. That's what I'd go with.
I think (and I'm happy to be corrected here), that if you Move a template
and leave a redirect in place it won't break any extant use of the
template
on other pages. Can anyone confirm ths?
Cheers,
Craig
On 16 June 2013 22:21, Kerry Raymond kerry.raym...@gmail.com wrote:
Wearing my “plain old editor” hat, I need some advice.
There is a template
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Cite_CHIMS
which is used to cite entries in the Queensland Heritage Register (a
subject near and dear to my editing heart, at 3am in my pyjamas). Anyhow
this template was broken thanks to the never-ending reorganisations of
the
Queensland Government and needs some updating. Most of the updating I
have
been able to do but the remaining problem is the name of the template.
CHIMS
is the name of some database software (which may or may not still be in
use)
but whatever it’s not a name visible to the public and not an obvious
name
you would think of if you were looking to cite the Queensland Heritage
Register. So I think it needs renaming to something else. Two questions:
What to call it instead of CHIMS? Should I go for something longer and
more descriptive, say QueenslandHeritageRegister? Something a bit
shorter
QldHeritageReg or very snappy QHR?
What are the mechanics of renaming a template? I searched for help but
could not anything helpful. Maybe it is not possible to rename a
template?
I welcome any suggestions or alternative solutions to the problem. I
guess
one alternative might be to leave it as CHIMS and just try to document
it in
places where likely editors will notice it, say, on the Talk page for
the
article and the category Queensland Heritage Register. Is that
considered an
appropriate use of Talk pages? Will anyone notice it there?
Kerry
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Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Wikimediaau-l Digest, Vol 81, Issue 6
Leigh, I just wanted to say thanks again for taking the time to do this session. The feedback we've got from the folk at GCCC is great and hopefully this is the first step in another partnership with them. I note that Kerry Raymond will be doing another session later this month also on the Gold Coast. Kerry's session will be open to the general public and not just council library staff. If any member of the Australian Wikimedia community available and interested in helping out, please drop Kerry or I a line to indicate your interest. Reasonable travel costs will be reimbursed by the chapter to participate. Cheers, Craig On 13 June 2013 22:00, wikimediaau-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org wrote: Send Wikimediaau-l mailing list submissions to wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to wikimediaau-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org You can reach the person managing the list at wikimediaau-l-ow...@lists.wikimedia.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Wikimediaau-l digest... Today's Topics: 1. Gold Coast Libraries Wikimedia Training Day (Leigh Blackall) -- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 20:06:51 +1000 From: Leigh Blackall leighblack...@gmail.com To: wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikimediaau-l] Gold Coast Libraries Wikimedia Training Day Message-ID: cahnmxu8rj1f52+fmkam6725ojaq_fjfaq5o2tqvkmtorldy...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi folks, A Wikimedia training day was held at the Palm Beach Community Lounge and Library, Queensland recently. Planning, resources and outcomes are documented here: http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_training_day,_Gold_Coast_Libraries -- -- Leigh Blackall http://about.me/leighblackall +61(0)404561009 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaau-l/attachments/20130613/87875aab/attachment-0001.html -- ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l End of Wikimediaau-l Digest, Vol 81, Issue 6 ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
[Wikimediaau-l] Wikimedia Australia COI Policy
Hi All, At our meeting on the weekend, the committee has finalised a draft of a conflict of interest (COI) policy to apply to members of the chapter's committee. Members might recall that in the lead up to the AGM last year, the topic of committee COI came up and prompted some very heated discussions. It's my hope that by formally codifying some expectations, we can avoid this sort of thing occurring again. Accordingly, the committee seeks public comment on the draft policy. It is expected that unless there is widespread opposition to this draft necessitating a complete rewrite, that we will adopt this policy at our next regularly scheduled meeting on 16 June. http://www.wikimedia.org.au/wiki/Conflict_of_interest_policy Comment is welcome either on the talk page, on this mailing list, or by private email. Regards, Craig Franklin President - Wikimedia Australia ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
[Wikimediaau-l] Wikimedia Workshop in Wagga Wagga
Hi All, Just a quick note to highlight that Wikimedia Australia recently organised a workshop in the New South Wales town of Wagga Wagga, in conjunction with the Wagga Wagga Library and the State Library of New South Wales. Attendees were guided in their first steps on Wikipedia by [[User:Bidgee]] and [[User:Peterdownunder]]. I hope you'll all join me in thanking Bidgee and Peterdownunder for so kindly donating their time and expertise to make sure that this session happened. A brief report, including a summary of the article drafts created and content uploaded to Commons is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:GLAM/State_Library_of_New_South_Wales/Wagga_Wagga The next step from here will be to polish the content already created, wikify the articles, categorise the Commons images, and assist the trainees with getting their first articles into the mainspace. Just as a reminder, we have two more workshops coming up in New South Wales this month, in Broken Hill and Canterbury, and a further workshop on the Gold Coast in June. We're hoping to schedule additional workshops in the second half of this year, and if you're interested in helping out, or if you think your local library or community centre has the equipment (internet access, computers, and a projector) and would be interested in hosting their own workshop, we'd love to hear from you! Cheers, Craig Franklin Wikimedia Australia ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
[Wikimediaau-l] ABC Pool to close
Reposting this here, as I know some of you also contribute to Pool: http://pool.abc.net.au/ Dear ABC Pool user, We’ve had a great time running Pool these past five years but sadly, the time has come to shut it down. We will no longer be accepting any new sign-ups from 18 May 2013, in order to accommodate the current ABC call-out Trees I’ve loved lost which is still active until 17 May 2013. After the project ends, it will not be possible to upload any new work to Pool. The ABC Pool website will be offline from 18 June 2013, which is six weeks from today. If you don’t already have copies of your work, we strongly encourage you to start downloading your work and storing it appropriately. Just a headsup to make sure you have copies of your work stashed elsewhere! Cheers, Craig Franklin ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] REMINDER: Open Wikimedia Australia meeting this Sunday
Hi All, Just a final reminder that this starts in a touch over two hours in #wikimedia-au. Hope to see you there! Cheers, Craig Franklin Wikimedia Australia On 11 April 2013 21:55, Craig Franklin cfrank...@halonetwork.net wrote: Hi All, Just a quick reminder that our regular monthly meeting will be taking place this Sunday, 14 April, at 6pm AWST (that's 8pm in eastern states). These meetings are intended to be member-driven, so I don't want to dictate any particular topics, but if you're stuck for ideas you might want to talk about the recent education symposium in Sydney, the Wikimedians-in-Residence programme, the recent upload of images from the Queensland State Archives to Commons... or anything else that tickles your fancy really. As always, we will be using the #wikimedia-au channel on IRC for this meeting. If you are not familiar with using IRC, there is a brief primer available at http://www.wikimedia.org.au//wiki/IRC. If you are not a regular user the Freenode web client at http://webchat.freenode.net is a good option, just enter a nickname and channel #wikimedia-au. Cheers, Craig Franklin Wikimedia Australia ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
[Wikimediaau-l] REMINDER: Open Wikimedia Australia meeting this Sunday
Hi All, Just a quick reminder that our regular monthly meeting will be taking place this Sunday, 14 April, at 6pm AWST (that's 8pm in eastern states). These meetings are intended to be member-driven, so I don't want to dictate any particular topics, but if you're stuck for ideas you might want to talk about the recent education symposium in Sydney, the Wikimedians-in-Residence programme, the recent upload of images from the Queensland State Archives to Commons... or anything else that tickles your fancy really. As always, we will be using the #wikimedia-au channel on IRC for this meeting. If you are not familiar with using IRC, there is a brief primer available at http://www.wikimedia.org.au//wiki/IRC. If you are not a regular user the Freenode web client at http://webchat.freenode.net is a good option, just enter a nickname and channel #wikimedia-au. Cheers, Craig Franklin Wikimedia Australia ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Save the date: Wikimedia Australia committee get-together in Sydney, 7 April
Hi All, I am delighted to advise that we've now locked in the meeting room at the Customs House Library in the centre of Sydney for Sunday's session. If you're free on the day, please feel free to drop by between 11 and 4 for a chat. The library is located just opposite Circular Quay rail station, see the following link for a map: https://maps.google.com.au/maps?q=Customs+House+Library,+Sydney,+New+South+Waleshl=enll=-33.862006,151.211776spn=0.003114,0.006539sll=-33.862006,151.211293sspn=0.003114,0.006539oq=Customs+Househq=Customs+House+Library,hnear=Sydney+New+South+Walest=mz=18 Hope to see many of you there! Regards, Craig Franklin Wikimedia Australia On 2 April 2013 21:33, Craig Franklin cfrank...@halonetwork.net wrote: Hi Sydneysiders, As the WMAU committee will be in Sydney this weekend for the Wikimedia in Higher Education symposiumhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Sydney/5_April_2013, we thought that we should take the opportunity to have a get together with the Sydney Wikimedia community at large. As such, we’ve put *Sunday 7 April* aside for a face-to-face meeting with the community. This is your opportunity to meet with the committee, pepper us with QA, and talk with us about the future of the chapter and the Wikimedia movement in general. The location is still TBA, once we’ve got this secured we’ll let you know straight away. At the moment it is planned to be an all day event, but if you can’t spare the entire day feel free to drop in whenever. Cheers, Craig Franklin Wikimedia Australia ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] [wmau:members] Australian Wikipedian in Residence
A big congratulations from me also. It's tempting to think that these opportunities just come out of the blue, but the reality is that they are built through hard work and persistence, and I know that plenty of both went into creating this opportunity. I’m sure that the State Library of New South Wales is thrilled to have you aboard and that you’ll do the movement proud while you are there.. Regards, Craig Franklin President - Wikimedia Australia On 22 March 2013 15:22, G. White whiteghost@gmail.com wrote: Dear Australian Wikimedian and Cultural Partnerships teams, I'm extremely pleased to announce that this week I started as Wikipedian-in-Residence at the State Library of New South Wales (SLNSWhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_Library_of_New_South_Wales), which is our oldest library and has a collection of global importance, including significant rare books, manuscripts and objects. It is a place to which almost every Australian scholar would pay homage. This is the first time there has been a Wikipedian-in-Residence in an Australian cultural institution and it has it has taken some time to work through the administrative processes to establish the position. As some of you know, Wikimedia Australia has been doing a lot of work with libraries locally. Most recently we were the major sponsors at the annual librarians conference and over the last couple of years we have been travelling to regional areas to deliver training to the local librarians (in partnership with several of the State Libraries). SLNSW also has a partnership with the National Library in Canberra, which is digitising Australian newspapers and linking the records back to the respective Wikipedia articles (examplehttp://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/title/35). Most significantly is that the SLNSW has been been building up a strong relationship with us recently and myself and other local Wikimedians have been delivered several training workshops to an in-house team of librarians who are contributing references and content to Wikipedia as part of their day-to-day work (project pagehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:GLAM/SLNSW). You can see there that a lot of the content we've been targeting for the team to write is the articles about the newspapers that have now been digitised. My WiR position reports to the Leader of the library's Innovation Project (Mylee Joseph, cc'd here), who is the instigator of that team. Since my term as WiR is for one day a week over 14 weeks, and the scope of work is excitingly ambitious, it is this team that will make it possible to achieve what one part time Resident could not. They are a keen and capable group. The Residency has been established to provide training, coaching, guidance, specialist advice to staff, evaluation of related projects as well as assistance with process mapping and benchmarking so that other Australian libraries can benefit from SLNSW's experience. In terms of content, as well as the newspapers, my Residency is likely to be involved in work on articles on the The 100 Objects Exhibitionhttp://www.sl.nsw.gov.au/events/exhibitions/2010/onehundred/100-objects/, indigenous and original materials, convict women, convict artists, the crossing of the Blue Mountainshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregory_Blaxland#Blue_Mountains_expeditionand Australia's involvement in World War I. I am glad this group has paved the way and am very excited about the possibilities before us! I will post updates here and in the This Month in GLAM report. I will also probably come here to ask questions and seek feedback and help. I hope that the process mapping and benchmarking would also be useful to similar projects elsewhere. Whiteghost.ink ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
[Wikimediaau-l] Committee changes at Wikimedia Australia
Hi All, As some of you may be aware, Wikimedia Australia has been planning a reshuffle of committee positions, based on ‘real world’ commitments of some committee members that made them unable to continue to commit to the heavy workload that being on the committee entails. I’m happy to report that after a consultation period with our members, the committee at our meeting yesterday approved the changes. The new committee is as follows: President: Craig Franklin Secretary: Graham Pearce Treasurer: John Vandenberg Members: Kerry Raymond, Steve Zhang Observers: Charles Gregory, Ross Mallett Charles Gregory remains an observer on the committee, and will continue to be responsible for the chapter’s social media, as well as being Wikimedia Australia’s representative to the Wikimedia Chapters’ Association. Ross Mallett will also join us as an observer on the committee, in addition to taking on the responsibility of being our Assistant Treasurer. It is my experience that when you get the basic things running like clockwork, success soon follows, and I’m confident that someone with Ross’s skills and experience around to help will see us running as smoothly as possible. The position of Vice President is currently and deliberately left vacant. Over the coming weeks we will be assessing what additional skills and expertise are required in the committee, and searching for someone who can bring that to the organisation. Stay tuned for more information on that! I’d like to thank my fellow members of the committee for their support during this process, for the work that they’ve already done, and for the great things that they’ll no doubt do for the chapter and the movement in the coming months. I’d like to specially single Charles out for praise as well, as he has been a longstanding member of the committee and helped us out of a tight spot last year by taking over as Secretary and doing a great job of organising our AGM and elections. Regards, Craig Franklin President – Wikimedia Australia ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
[Wikimediaau-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia Education] School of Open has launched!
This may be of some interest to subscribers, in addition to Wikimedia-related courses, the Australian copyright for educators course looks interesting. Cheers, Craig -- Forwarded message -- From: Jane Park janep...@creativecommons.org Date: 13 March 2013 08:05 Subject: [Wikimedia Education] School of Open has launched! To: Wikimedia Education educat...@lists.wikimedia.org Hey guys, in case you haven't seen School of Open launched its first set of courses today, including several on Wikipedia/Wikimedia: http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/37179. Sign up for these facilitated courses this week (sign-up will remain open through Sunday, March 17). These courses will start the week of March 18 (next week!). To sign up, simply click the “Start Course” button under the course’s menu navigation on the left. - *Copyright 4 Educators (US)https://p2pu.org/en/courses/147/copyright-for-educators-us/ * – Sign up https://p2pu.org/en/courses/147/copyright-for-educators-us/if you’re an educator who wants to learn about US copyright law in the education context. - *Copyright 4 Educators (AUS)https://p2pu.org/en/courses/111/copyright-4-educators-aus/ * – Sign up https://p2pu.org/en/courses/111/copyright-4-educators-aus/if you’re an educator who wants to learn about Australian copyright, statutory licenses and open educational resources (OER). - *Creative Commons for K-12 Educatorshttps://p2pu.org/en/courses/9/creative-commons-for-k-12-educators/ * – Sign uphttps://p2pu.org/en/courses/9/creative-commons-for-k-12-educators/if you’re a K-12 educator (anywhere in the world) who wants to learn how to find and adapt free, useful resources for your classroom, and incorporate activities that teach your students digital world skills. - *Writing Wikipedia Articles: The Basics and Beyondhttps://p2pu.org/en/courses/49/writing-wikipedia-articles-the-basics-and-beyond/ * – Sign uphttps://p2pu.org/en/courses/49/writing-wikipedia-articles-the-basics-and-beyond/if you want to learn how to edit Wikipedia or improve your editing skills — especially if you are interested in and knowledgeable about open educational resources (OER) (however, no background in this area is required). All other courses are now ready for you to take at any time, with or without your peers. They include: - *Get a CC license. Put it on your websitehttps://p2pu.org/en/courses/3/get-a-cc-license-put-it-on-your-website/ * – This course is exactly what the title says: it will help you with the steps of getting a CC license and putting it on your work. It’s tailored to websites, although the same steps apply to most other works. - *Open Science: An Introductionhttps://p2pu.org/en/courses/5/open-science-an-introduction/ * – This course is a collaborative learning environment meant to introduce the idea of Open Science to young scientists, academics, and makers of all kinds. Open Science is a tricky thing to define, but we’ve designed this course to share what we know about it, working as a community to make this open resource better. - *Open data for GLAMs https://p2pu.org/nl/groups/open-glam/*(Galleries, Libraries, Archives, Museums) – This course is for professionals in cultural institutions who are interested in opening up their data as open culture data. It will guide you through the different steps towards open data and provide you with extensive background information on how to handle copyright and other possible issues. - *Intro to Openness in Educationhttps://p2pu.org/en/courses/140/intro-to-openness-in-education/ * – This is an introductory course exploring the history and impacts of openness in education. The main goal of the course is to give you a broad but shallow grounding in the primary areas of work in the field of open education. - *A Look at Open Videohttps://p2pu.org/en/groups/a-look-at-open-video/ * – This course will give you a quick overview of some of the issues, tools and areas of interest in the area of open video. It is aimed at students interested in developing software, video journalists, editors and all users of video who want to take their knowledge further. - *Contributing to Wikimedia Commonshttps://p2pu.org/en/groups/contributing-to-wikimedia-commons/ * – A sister project of Wikipedia, Wikimedia Commons is a repository of openly licensed images that people all over the world use and contribute to. This challenge gets you acquainted with uploading your works to the commons. - *Open Detective http://beta.p2pu.org/en/courses/8/open-detective/* – This course will help you explore the scale of open to non-open content and how to tell the difference. And more… check out all the courses at http://schoolofopen.org/. -- Jane Park Project Manager http://creativecommons.org/staff#janepark Creative Commons the School of Open, a collaboration with P2PU:
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Wikimedia Australia's FDC application
Hi Tara and Chris, Well, if you have access to large quantities of no-questions-asked cash to fund the chapter with, that would be a start ;-) In all seriousness though, my advice and request would be to jump in and comment boldly on the proposals on the chapter wiki. If something doesn't look right, question it. If you have an improvement to suggest, then suggest it! It is far better to have these discussions on things that don't add up now, rather than later when we're asking the Foundation for money to fund it. If you've got time and the commitment to take ownership of one of the projects to make sure that it succeeds (keeping in mind that most of that sort of work is pretty tedious), then get in touch with the committee and we'll see if something can be arranged. Cheers, Craig Franklin On 7 March 2013 20:52, Tara Macphail tara.macph...@me.com wrote: Thanks Craig - Just wanted to second Chris' thoughts/questions on this. Tara On 07/03/2013, at 1:04 PM, Chris Watkins wrote: Thanks Craig, Your efforts and the efforts of others in moving this forward are much appreciated. What can we, members and supporters, do to help? I don't want to make big promises (what with the cooking and the kids... metaphorically speaking) but is it possible to chunk down the key parts of the key projects and see where people are inspired to contribute? On 06/03/2013 10:25 PM, Craig Franklin cfrank...@halonetwork.net wrote: Dear All, As you may be aware, Wikimedia Australia has withdrawn its application for funding from round two of the Funds Dissemination Committee’s (FDC) application process. John Vandenberg and Steve Zhang spoke about this at length during our public meeting last weekend, and I encourage you to read the transcript of the meeting below for their thoughts on the matter: http://www.wikimedia.org.au/wiki/Meeting:Public_(2013-03-03)/Transcript This email is a summary of some of my thoughts on why we did this, and what direction the organisation should take from here. These are my thoughts only and not the official position of the chapter. The nature of the FDC’s application process is that they have two major grantmaking rounds every year, with the most recent round closing on March 1. It had been the intention of the management committee to apply for annual funding for the 2013 calendar year through this process. As March 1 came closer, it became apparent to me and the rest of the committee that we simply weren’t going to be ready for this date. The reasons for this were: * We were still in the early stages of planning the World War One WiR programme, a major initiative of the chapter that is tentatively budgeted at over $150,000. However, we felt that it was unlikely we would be successful in getting funding for this initiative until we had a more concrete idea of which institutions would be participating, how many Wikimedians in Residence we could realistically support, and what the overhead costs of running the program would be. * Other programmes that the chapter has on the table need further detail and costing to be performed before they’re ready to go. The outcomes of these programmes are positive, and they align with the strategic plans of both the chapter and the Wikimedia Foundation, but we need to get better at articulating how we’ll get from vision to implementation, and how much money we’ll spend, and what we’ll spend it on. * The FDC in the last round recommended that we establish a more consistent record of programme success, and while we have had successful programmes in that time (our presence at the New Librarian’s Symposium and ALIA Information On Line events, workshops in Toowoomba and Bendigo, and the beginning of a relationship with the State Library of New South Wales), another six months of solid achievement will give us a better foundation upon which to ask for further funding. The other major factor in making this decision is the significant amount of administrative overhead that is involved in preparing and submitting an application to the FDC. As you are probably aware, Wikimedia Australia has no paid staff, and the bulk of the work is done by members of the management committee, whose time is taken up with their own jobs, families, and other commitments. Our limited and precious Wikimedia time is usually best served advancing the interests of the community and the movement by doing the things that we are good at – running workshops, talking to GLAMs, and bringing the community together, rather than filling out paperwork for the Foundation. I have observed that most if not all of the entities who have thus far been successful in obtaining funds from the FDC have been those entities who already have paid staff and other resources who can write a quality application without having to worry about looking after the kids and cooking dinner at the same time. My other observation would
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] [wmau:members] Re: Wikimedia Australia public meeting
Excellent, since nobody has objected thus far, lets then pencil in the next public meeting for 6pm AWST (8pm AEST) on the 7th of April. Cheers, Craig On 7 March 2013 12:56, Andrew Owens orderinchao...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah I've always been mystified as to the short notice time - it's always been the way since these meetings were started early last year. I've missed I think all but one because I've usually found out after the fact, as it's missed my morning email scan. (And that's even on AEDT-3.) 3 days (Thursday before the meeting) and a reminder on Sat evening should be sufficient. kindest regards Andrew On 5 March 2013 07:31, Tony Souter to...@iinet.net.au wrote: I'm flexible, but 20:00 AEST sounds good. Could I suggest a note to memebers about five to seven days beforehand, perhaps specifying a kick-off issue/agenda item or two, and that the meeting might be limited to 60 mins or less? If the maximum duration is long, or the end-time is open-ended, the drop-in drop-out casualness of it all detracts from the cohesiveness of the gathering. T On 04/03/2013, at 9:11 PM, Craig Franklin wrote: Firstly, apologies on the somewhat late notice - would members prefer it if we dropped a notice in a couple of days beforehand? Remembering that the meeting is *always* on the first Sunday of the month? Secondly, Gnangarra raises a good point that we should move the time around a bit every now and then for the benefit of those for whom the normal time is not convenient. As daylight savings ends at the beginning of April (I think), would anyone object to holding the April meeting at 8pm AEST (6pm WA time)? Or is there another time that would be even better for the other WA folk? Cheers, Craig On 3 March 2013 23:02, Gnangarra gnanga...@gmail.com wrote: WA 2pm on a sunday afternoon in the middle of a long weekend, not really practical. Hopefully once Vic, NSW SA and TAS go off daylight saving the committee will hold one of these at say 6pm wst, 8pm est. On 3 March 2013 20:52, Chris Watkins chriswater...@appropedia.orgwrote: On 3 March 2013 14:46, Tony Souter to...@iinet.net.au wrote: Could there be more notice? And an agenda topic or two might attract more members into participating. Items don't have to be billed as occupying the meeting exclusively. Agreed - I appreciate the work done by the organizers, but I reckon more notice and topics would get more of us to join in. I have the meetings as a recurring event in my calendar, but something always distracts me... if I knew what was going to be discussed, I'm sure I'd be more likely to remember to actually log on. -- Chris Watkins Appropedia.org - Sharing knowledge to build rich, sustainable lives. ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l -- GN. Photo Gallery: http://gnangarra.redbubble.com Gn. Blogg: http://gnangarra.wordpress.com *___* *Tony Souter* **Fixed-line phone: +612 42633401 *Mobile: 0450 717627 (+61450 717627), but usually not switched on *Skype: tonysouter *Street address: 1/29 Tarrant Ave, Kiama Downs 2533, Australia* ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
[Wikimediaau-l] Wikimedia Australia's FDC application
Dear All, As you may be aware, Wikimedia Australia has withdrawn its application for funding from round two of the Funds Dissemination Committee’s (FDC) application process. John Vandenberg and Steve Zhang spoke about this at length during our public meeting last weekend, and I encourage you to read the transcript of the meeting below for their thoughts on the matter: http://www.wikimedia.org.au/wiki/Meeting:Public_(2013-03-03)/Transcript This email is a summary of some of my thoughts on why we did this, and what direction the organisation should take from here. These are my thoughts only and not the official position of the chapter. The nature of the FDC’s application process is that they have two major grantmaking rounds every year, with the most recent round closing on March 1. It had been the intention of the management committee to apply for annual funding for the 2013 calendar year through this process. As March 1 came closer, it became apparent to me and the rest of the committee that we simply weren’t going to be ready for this date. The reasons for this were: * We were still in the early stages of planning the World War One WiR programme, a major initiative of the chapter that is tentatively budgeted at over $150,000. However, we felt that it was unlikely we would be successful in getting funding for this initiative until we had a more concrete idea of which institutions would be participating, how many Wikimedians in Residence we could realistically support, and what the overhead costs of running the program would be. * Other programmes that the chapter has on the table need further detail and costing to be performed before they’re ready to go. The outcomes of these programmes are positive, and they align with the strategic plans of both the chapter and the Wikimedia Foundation, but we need to get better at articulating how we’ll get from vision to implementation, and how much money we’ll spend, and what we’ll spend it on. * The FDC in the last round recommended that we establish a more consistent record of programme success, and while we have had successful programmes in that time (our presence at the New Librarian’s Symposium and ALIA Information On Line events, workshops in Toowoomba and Bendigo, and the beginning of a relationship with the State Library of New South Wales), another six months of solid achievement will give us a better foundation upon which to ask for further funding. The other major factor in making this decision is the significant amount of administrative overhead that is involved in preparing and submitting an application to the FDC. As you are probably aware, Wikimedia Australia has no paid staff, and the bulk of the work is done by members of the management committee, whose time is taken up with their own jobs, families, and other commitments. Our limited and precious Wikimedia time is usually best served advancing the interests of the community and the movement by doing the things that we are good at – running workshops, talking to GLAMs, and bringing the community together, rather than filling out paperwork for the Foundation. I have observed that most if not all of the entities who have thus far been successful in obtaining funds from the FDC have been those entities who already have paid staff and other resources who can write a quality application without having to worry about looking after the kids and cooking dinner at the same time. My other observation would be that lodging an FDC application effectively bars an organisation from requesting funding from the Wikimedia Foundation through their other funding processes. I do not see any logical reason for this; surely a request for funding ought to be judged on its merits and positive impact on the movement, rather than on decisions made in a separate programme by a separate body. If we applied to the FDC and got another disappointing offer, it would more or less preclude the chapter from being able to take advantage of any other opportunities that presented themselves for a whole year. Having been on the committee of management for over two years now, it has been my experience that such opportunities often present themselves at very short notice, and tying ourselves to an annual funding model with no opportunity to make supplementary applications would not be in the best interests of the movement. So, where to from here? At the moment, the plan is to apply for funding on a per-project basis from the WMF Grants Program (a separate avenue to the FDC). This will be done when the planning for each project is ready, and has a reasonable prospect of success. I hope that the Foundation will also be willing to come to the party and provide meaningful technical advice on the grant applications we make this way, not only so that we are successful in getting the applications improved, but also to try and spot any potential flaws or opportunities that we haven’t seen, and make sure that our programmes
[Wikimediaau-l] Sue Gardner interview on ABC Radio
Hi All, Just a quick reminder that if you weren't able to catch the live streaming version of Sue Gardner's Australian interview on Wednesday night, it's being played on ABC Radio today at 11am across the country (except Victoria, for complicated ABC reasons). The programme you are looking for is Conversations with Richard Fidler. If you miss that, I am assuming that you'll be able to download a podcast of the show later tonight to listen. http://www.abc.net.au/local/sites/conversations/?section=podcast Cheers, Craig Franklin ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Brisbane meetup with Sue Gardner on 11 February 5-8 PM
Just to make it clear, this is a catered event - there will be nibblies and non-alcoholic drinks, but it's not dinner. I also know it's not as big a drawcard, but John, Kerry and myself from the WMAU committee will also be there and available to talk about any matters relating to the chapter or the movement. Cheers, Craig On 30 January 2013 22:00, wikimediaau-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org wrote: Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 20:25:07 +1100 From: John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com To: wm-au-l wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikimediaau-l] Brisbane meetup with Sue Gardner on 11 February 5-8PM Message-ID: CAO9U_Z4rE==MKoRf=TEfU42V9uHjGf+N8=Jj= 6qjzxflnxm...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 While Sue is in Brisbane for the ALIA conferences, we will have a meetup at SLQ on the Monday evening after New Librarians Symposium. We are using CiviCRM for registration. If you can make it, please register here: http://civicrm.wikimedia.org.au/civicrm/standalone/index.php?q=civicrm/event/infoid=1reset=1 A Wikipedia username is mandatory as numbers to the meetup will be limited, and we need to ensure wiki people dont miss out. If you don't have a Wikipedia account, but have been involved in the wiki world in other ways, please create a Wikipedia account or put a fake username in the field and then send the committee an email explaining what you've been doing if we dont already know ;-) Share this email with any wiki people who you believe may be interested in attending. p.s. the ical link is broken at the moment. Thanks, John Vandenberg -- ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l End of Wikimediaau-l Digest, Vol 76, Issue 13 * ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
[Wikimediaau-l] WMF Discussion on Conflicts of Interesrt
Hi, Given recent events, the following proposed WMF guidelines might be of interest to some: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Guidelines_on_potential_conflicts_of_interest There is an active talk page with useful discussion occurring, as well. Cheers, Craig Franklin ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
[Wikimediaau-l] Lets talk about the 2013 Annual Plan...
Hi All, As you may be aware, at the recent AGM, the members of Wikimedia Australia approved our annual plan, but also directed the committee to revise and adjust the plan to a more modest state with a view to applying for Round 2 funding from the FDC, early in the new year. With that in mind... what sort of revisions and feedback do you have for us? Obviously I can't promise to satisfy every single person but I'm interested to feel the pulse and see what people generally speaking are thinking. The only thing I can promise is that if you don't provide any feedback, then I won't be able to consider it! If you're not comfortable replying in a public setting, I'm happy to consider any comments put forward in private emails as well. Cheers, Craig Franklin Treasurer - Wikimedia Australia ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
[Wikimediaau-l] Support the SLNSW training session
Hi Richard, Longer term, I would be interested in doing Wikipedia training for small groups . Does the SLNSW have any interest in volunteers for that? Yes, yes, yes! We're hoping to roll this out across New South Wales in 2013, in much the same way that we did a number of small workshops across Queensland this year: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:GLAM/SLQ If you (or anyone else) is interested in helping out in person, please get in touch with me. Cheers, Craig Franklin Wikimedia Australia ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] [wmau:members] Wikimedian Australians of the Year: Giving thanks to our community
Do they typically allow gawkers to take photographs at public citizenship ceremonies? I might be able to get to the Brisbane one (weather permitting) tomorrow. On 25/01/2012, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Zhang, Steven steven.zh...@team.telstra.com wrote: Hear hear. Sounds like a great idea. How about an impromptu IRC meeting to celebrate Australia Day as well? Sounds good. It would be good to try to collaborate on a Wikinews piece about the various events. The recipients will be announced at a ceremony in Canberra from 6:00pm until 7:00pm. If we can get a list of winners, we can collaborate on determining notability and improving the articles. There will be a concert from 7:45pm - 10:00pm. Both events will be held on the lawns of Federation Mall in front of Parliament House, Canberra. Can anyone with a camera make it to either event? The media accreditation packs are here: http://www.australianoftheyear.org.au/media/files/vk0j5q_Australian%20of%20the%20Year%20Awards%20%20%20Australia%20Day%20Live%20Concert%20accreditation.pdf Contact info at: http://www.australianoftheyear.org.au/pages/page5.asp The PDF says that press applications needed to be submitted by Jan 20. ;-( -- John Vandenberg ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
[Wikimediaau-l] Brisbane Open House
Hi All, Just a heads-up about an interesting event that's happening here in Brisbane come October. (It's not talking about a Corey Worthington-style bash at my place). Brisbane Open House is a day when a lot of buildings and places not normally open to the public will throw their doors open to allow the curious and the inquisitive to snoop around and see what goes on in these hidden spaces. Needless to say, it's an excellent opportunity for some motivated Wikimedians to get in and gather photographs, museums, and generally fly the flag. http://www.brisbaneopenhouse.com.au Personally, I am interested in visiting the Masonic Temple, and if I didn't have a crippling fear of heights I'd go to the top of the new Santos Tower and take some birds-eye pictures of [[South Brisbane]] and the like. Cheers, Craig F. ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
[Wikimediaau-l] Wikimedia in the Classroom (Queensland project)
Okay, it looks like the the Wiki has been fixed, so here goes: Over the past few months, a few of us up here in Brisbane have been developing a programme and materials to do presentations to teachers and schools. It's been our observation that while many teachers have negative views about Wikipedia, these can be fairly easily dispelled by standing in front of them and talking about who we are, what we do, and putting some misconceptions right. It's also a good way to showcase our lesser-known projects; while most know Wikipedia, they don't know about Wiktionary and Wikisource, even though those can be valuable resources as well. I've placed a PDF of the most recent presentation we did up on the chapter site. The thumbnails don't appear to work, but if you click on the filename you can download a complete PDF of my Powerpoint: http://www.wikimedia.org.au/wiki/File:Wikimedia_Overview_Presentation_For_Sc hools.pdf Our first presentation was in early April at Redcliffe State High School. Feedback was very positive and once we sat down and talked Wiki for an hour, the teachers wanted to get involved with either using our content, or doing projects which would involve working collaboratively with us. I'll sum up the exact feedback in a future mail, but when they thought about it they also had a lot of ideas that I think are quite exciting and I'd be interested in going further with. The challenges I can see in the future is finding more places to do the presentation (we are lucky to have a member of the chapter who is a teacher at said school), and following up effectively and quickly on teacher ideas. The other issue I suppose I have is that I'm only one man, I have a fulltime job, and generally speaking pupil-free days are the only time when we can do these, which limits us to a handful of events a year. This can be dealt with by either convincing teachers and educators to come to night classes, or training up other people who can take time off work or whatever to go and do the presentation. Anyway, feel free to have a look at the presentation slides and I'll be happy to answer any questions you have at this stage. Cheers, Craig -Original Message- From: wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Sarah Ewart Sent: Wednesday, 5 May 2010 8:50 PM To: Wikimedia-au Subject: Re: [Wikimediaau-l] grants application this year? Craig, please, please, please do write up on the wiki what you've been doing. I think it's very important for the chapter's health to see what members are achieving in their local communities. On 5/5/10, Craig Franklin cr...@halo-17.net wrote: Well, there's stuff going on. My little Wikipedia in the Classroom project has been boiling away pretty nicely (I really ought to update the page on the chapter site about that.), but it's mainly foundation-building stuff that'll let us pull of bigger things in the future. And as for grants, again, the outlay for my project has been about $20 so far, which included my petrol to drive to the venues and to purchase some mints to hand out. You don't need a big fat grant to pull off something worthwhile. Cheers, Craig From: wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of private musings Sent: Wednesday, 5 May 2010 7:30 PM To: Wikimedia-au Subject: Re: [Wikimediaau-l] grants application this year? 'Grant applications are serious, not something that you submit just to engage with a process and there needs to be a properly thought through application with an idea of who, what, when, where and how the proposed project will be run' - totally agree with this- and agree that it's a large stretch to try and get anything completed before the deadline - whether or not it's worth trying is a different question, I guess :-) 'I'd rather see us take the time to discuss possible ideas properly and get the details of any proposed projects members want to run nutted out as carefully as possible before submitting applications' - totally agree with this too - again, it does seem unlikely to be able to get this all done ahead of the deadline - I guess I wish discussions and activity had kicked off earlier - though that's largely down to us as a membership - hopefully we can get the ball rolling anyways ahead of future grant applications etc. 'Jimmy recently describing PM as a troll and calling for him to be globally banned' - this is not accurate - Jimbo never called me a troll, nor did he call for me to be globally banned - please take greater care in raising comments about me personally as oppose to my posts however; 'PM is really not an appropriate person to lead the chapter in requests to the WMF for not-insignificant amounts of money' - sure ;-) - as I mentioned I'd rather just try and help / chivvy / expedite existing efforts - my concern is to make sure
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Wikimedia in the Classroom (Queensland project)
Hi Bryce, Thanks for your feedback. I must say that that hasn't particularly been my experience with teachers, the usual response is along the lines of Oh, Wikipedia, isn't that the site where anyone can write anything? Nobody in the group I presented to was overtly anti-Wikipedia (or if they were, they kept it to themselves), but they did have what we would consider to be fairly basic questions about how we deal with vandalism, how reliable we are, etc etc. Obviously it would be good if we can calm some of the irrational fears of the anti-Wikipedia people and bring them around to our side, which is a definite goal for me of the whole project. Another point that they were generally speaking unaware of was the open licensing nature of everything we do, there was a few quiet 'Wow!'s in the room when I mentioned that. We even had one guy who knew quite a bit about the concepts of open source software who wasn't aware that Wikipedia was under CC-BY-SA. And of course, they didn't know about any of our projects except Wikipedia (although someone thought that WikiAnswers was one of ours). With that said, they did seem fairly uninterested in the bit about featured content and audited content and whatnot, while it's a good barometer of how far along the project is progressing, they didn't seem to see how that was relevant to what they did as educators. On the other hand, they did like me going over categories and the other technical doodads (it's not in the presentation, but we dropped out at that point for a bit and I started navigating around the site itself) - even if they were somewhat aware of these features I think they liked having someone who was in the know explain how it all worked. The next presentation I do will probably take that into account and I'll probably replace slides 24 through 26 with a simpler explanation of the article grading scale (ie: FA, GA, B, C, Start, Stub), and spend more time talking about possible ways they can actually work with us; because that seemed to be something they were VERY interested in. In short though, I think being able to stand in front of them in a classroom and talk Wiki for an hour showed that we're not just a two bit website staffed by antisocial nerds, and made us look a bit more solid and trustworthy. Being out there and doing these presentations might yet turn out to be more important than the actual content of the presentations. Cheers, Craig F. PS: I'm CCing this to the members list, simply because I know there are some people who are on one mailing list but not the other. Feel free both to jump in and discuss! From: wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Bryce Roney Sent: Monday, 10 May 2010 7:16 PM To: Wikimedia-au Subject: Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Wikimedia in the Classroom (Queensland project) That seems to be a very solid presentation, most of my teachers I have seem to be reasonably adept at being able to use Wikipedia and understand how to make sure an article is accurate and the usefulness of it as a spring board to other references. That said, I know there are teachers out there who are incredibly anti-Wikipedia and a presentation like this could go a long way into being able to get teachers to understand what Wikipedia is and isn't. Best of luck with your project. On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 5:35 PM, Craig Franklin cr...@halo-17.net wrote: Okay, it looks like the the Wiki has been fixed, so here goes: Over the past few months, a few of us up here in Brisbane have been developing a programme and materials to do presentations to teachers and schools. It's been our observation that while many teachers have negative views about Wikipedia, these can be fairly easily dispelled by standing in front of them and talking about who we are, what we do, and putting some misconceptions right. It's also a good way to showcase our lesser-known projects; while most know Wikipedia, they don't know about Wiktionary and Wikisource, even though those can be valuable resources as well. I've placed a PDF of the most recent presentation we did up on the chapter site. The thumbnails don't appear to work, but if you click on the filename you can download a complete PDF of my Powerpoint: http://www.wikimedia.org.au/wiki/File:Wikimedia_Overview_Presentation_For_Sc http://www.wikimedia.org.au/wiki/File:Wikimedia_Overview_Presentation_For_S c%0d%0ahools.pdf hools.pdf Our first presentation was in early April at Redcliffe State High School. Feedback was very positive and once we sat down and talked Wiki for an hour, the teachers wanted to get involved with either using our content, or doing projects which would involve working collaboratively with us. I'll sum up the exact feedback in a future mail, but when they thought about it they also had a lot of ideas that I think are quite exciting and I'd be interested in going further with. The challenges I can
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] grants application this year?
Well, I tried to upload some material in lieu of a full writeup, but I got this: Fatal error: Call to undefined method UploadFromFile::initialize() in /srv/www/www.wikimedia.org.au/html/w/includes/upload/UploadFromFile.php on line 17 Are uploads disabled/broken at the moment? Cheers, Craig -Original Message- From: wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Sarah Ewart Sent: Wednesday, 5 May 2010 8:50 PM To: Wikimedia-au Subject: Re: [Wikimediaau-l] grants application this year? Craig, please, please, please do write up on the wiki what you've been doing. I think it's very important for the chapter's health to see what members are achieving in their local communities. On 5/5/10, Craig Franklin cr...@halo-17.net wrote: Well, there's stuff going on. My little Wikipedia in the Classroom project has been boiling away pretty nicely (I really ought to update the page on the chapter site about that.), but it's mainly foundation-building stuff that'll let us pull of bigger things in the future. And as for grants, again, the outlay for my project has been about $20 so far, which included my petrol to drive to the venues and to purchase some mints to hand out. You don't need a big fat grant to pull off something worthwhile. Cheers, Craig From: wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of private musings Sent: Wednesday, 5 May 2010 7:30 PM To: Wikimedia-au Subject: Re: [Wikimediaau-l] grants application this year? 'Grant applications are serious, not something that you submit just to engage with a process and there needs to be a properly thought through application with an idea of who, what, when, where and how the proposed project will be run' - totally agree with this- and agree that it's a large stretch to try and get anything completed before the deadline - whether or not it's worth trying is a different question, I guess :-) 'I'd rather see us take the time to discuss possible ideas properly and get the details of any proposed projects members want to run nutted out as carefully as possible before submitting applications' - totally agree with this too - again, it does seem unlikely to be able to get this all done ahead of the deadline - I guess I wish discussions and activity had kicked off earlier - though that's largely down to us as a membership - hopefully we can get the ball rolling anyways ahead of future grant applications etc. 'Jimmy recently describing PM as a troll and calling for him to be globally banned' - this is not accurate - Jimbo never called me a troll, nor did he call for me to be globally banned - please take greater care in raising comments about me personally as oppose to my posts however; 'PM is really not an appropriate person to lead the chapter in requests to the WMF for not-insignificant amounts of money' - sure ;-) - as I mentioned I'd rather just try and help / chivvy / expedite existing efforts - my concern is to make sure that something happens - I'm concerned that we're heading for a pretty poor report card for the first half of 2010, and would like to help avoid that :-) cheers, Peter, PM. On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 6:56 PM, Sarah Ewart sarahew...@gmail.com wrote: To be entirely frank, I would have to agree that given both the long term and recent controversies throughout WMF universe which culminated in Jimmy recently describing PM as a troll and calling for him to be globally banned, PM is really not an appropriate person to lead the chapter in requests to the WMF for not-insignificant amounts of money. However, I don't have a problem with him suggesting potential projects and then seeing how others feel about them and whether they gel with other projects people are currently involved in. I attended the session on grants at the chapters meeting in Berlin (my notes are up on the wiki here- http://www.wikimedia.org.au//wiki/2010_chapters_meeting/Sarahs_notes#Working _group:_Volunteers http://www.wikimedia.org.au/wiki/2010_chapters_meeting/Sarahs_notes#Working _group:_Volunteers ) and we discussed the final date for grant applications and Eric made it clear that while May 15 is listed as the deadline, it's more like a preferred date. If applications are in by then they'll be processed more quickly, but we're welcome to submit applications after that date. Last year we had to pay back a grant a chapter member requested for an outreach conference they wanted to run because it fell through and didn't end up going ahead. Paying back the funds was a real headache for the committee (especially for Brian as the then-treasurer) and it took a considerable amount of time to resolve with the foundation. I don't want to see this happen again so I'd oppose any moves to rush through any ill-considered applications just to get them in before May 15
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] grants application this year?
Yeah, I've sort of been a deadbeat in not shouting about the Wiki-in-the-Classroom much project so far. The short version is that we did a session at a high school, presenting to teachers. The pilot presentation went very well and we got fantastic feedback. I've done something of an in-depth dissection of the whole thing, which I'll try and polish and put on the chapter wiki by the end of the weekend (as well as the Powerpoint material that I prepared). I'd also like to point out that I'm by no means the only person who's been working on this, and the contributions from my fellow WMAU members Nicola Hourigan and Andrew Owens to what we've been doing shouldn't be overlooked! Cheers, Craig -Original Message- From: wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Sarah Ewart Sent: Wednesday, 5 May 2010 8:50 PM To: Wikimedia-au Subject: Re: [Wikimediaau-l] grants application this year? Craig, please, please, please do write up on the wiki what you've been doing. I think it's very important for the chapter's health to see what members are achieving in their local communities. On 5/5/10, Craig Franklin cr...@halo-17.net wrote: Well, there's stuff going on. My little Wikipedia in the Classroom project has been boiling away pretty nicely (I really ought to update the page on the chapter site about that.), but it's mainly foundation-building stuff that'll let us pull of bigger things in the future. And as for grants, again, the outlay for my project has been about $20 so far, which included my petrol to drive to the venues and to purchase some mints to hand out. You don't need a big fat grant to pull off something worthwhile. Cheers, Craig From: wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of private musings Sent: Wednesday, 5 May 2010 7:30 PM To: Wikimedia-au Subject: Re: [Wikimediaau-l] grants application this year? 'Grant applications are serious, not something that you submit just to engage with a process and there needs to be a properly thought through application with an idea of who, what, when, where and how the proposed project will be run' - totally agree with this- and agree that it's a large stretch to try and get anything completed before the deadline - whether or not it's worth trying is a different question, I guess :-) 'I'd rather see us take the time to discuss possible ideas properly and get the details of any proposed projects members want to run nutted out as carefully as possible before submitting applications' - totally agree with this too - again, it does seem unlikely to be able to get this all done ahead of the deadline - I guess I wish discussions and activity had kicked off earlier - though that's largely down to us as a membership - hopefully we can get the ball rolling anyways ahead of future grant applications etc. 'Jimmy recently describing PM as a troll and calling for him to be globally banned' - this is not accurate - Jimbo never called me a troll, nor did he call for me to be globally banned - please take greater care in raising comments about me personally as oppose to my posts however; 'PM is really not an appropriate person to lead the chapter in requests to the WMF for not-insignificant amounts of money' - sure ;-) - as I mentioned I'd rather just try and help / chivvy / expedite existing efforts - my concern is to make sure that something happens - I'm concerned that we're heading for a pretty poor report card for the first half of 2010, and would like to help avoid that :-) cheers, Peter, PM. On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 6:56 PM, Sarah Ewart sarahew...@gmail.com wrote: To be entirely frank, I would have to agree that given both the long term and recent controversies throughout WMF universe which culminated in Jimmy recently describing PM as a troll and calling for him to be globally banned, PM is really not an appropriate person to lead the chapter in requests to the WMF for not-insignificant amounts of money. However, I don't have a problem with him suggesting potential projects and then seeing how others feel about them and whether they gel with other projects people are currently involved in. I attended the session on grants at the chapters meeting in Berlin (my notes are up on the wiki here- http://www.wikimedia.org.au//wiki/2010_chapters_meeting/Sarahs_notes#Working _group:_Volunteers http://www.wikimedia.org.au/wiki/2010_chapters_meeting/Sarahs_notes#Working _group:_Volunteers ) and we discussed the final date for grant applications and Eric made it clear that while May 15 is listed as the deadline, it's more like a preferred date. If applications are in by then they'll be processed more quickly, but we're welcome to submit applications after that date. Last year we had to pay back a grant a chapter member requested for an outreach conference
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] grants application this year?
Well, there's stuff going on. My little Wikipedia in the Classroom project has been boiling away pretty nicely (I really ought to update the page on the chapter site about that.), but it's mainly foundation-building stuff that'll let us pull of bigger things in the future. And as for grants, again, the outlay for my project has been about $20 so far, which included my petrol to drive to the venues and to purchase some mints to hand out. You don't need a big fat grant to pull off something worthwhile. Cheers, Craig From: wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of private musings Sent: Wednesday, 5 May 2010 7:30 PM To: Wikimedia-au Subject: Re: [Wikimediaau-l] grants application this year? 'Grant applications are serious, not something that you submit just to engage with a process and there needs to be a properly thought through application with an idea of who, what, when, where and how the proposed project will be run' - totally agree with this- and agree that it's a large stretch to try and get anything completed before the deadline - whether or not it's worth trying is a different question, I guess :-) 'I'd rather see us take the time to discuss possible ideas properly and get the details of any proposed projects members want to run nutted out as carefully as possible before submitting applications' - totally agree with this too - again, it does seem unlikely to be able to get this all done ahead of the deadline - I guess I wish discussions and activity had kicked off earlier - though that's largely down to us as a membership - hopefully we can get the ball rolling anyways ahead of future grant applications etc. 'Jimmy recently describing PM as a troll and calling for him to be globally banned' - this is not accurate - Jimbo never called me a troll, nor did he call for me to be globally banned - please take greater care in raising comments about me personally as oppose to my posts however; 'PM is really not an appropriate person to lead the chapter in requests to the WMF for not-insignificant amounts of money' - sure ;-) - as I mentioned I'd rather just try and help / chivvy / expedite existing efforts - my concern is to make sure that something happens - I'm concerned that we're heading for a pretty poor report card for the first half of 2010, and would like to help avoid that :-) cheers, Peter, PM. On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 6:56 PM, Sarah Ewart sarahew...@gmail.com wrote: To be entirely frank, I would have to agree that given both the long term and recent controversies throughout WMF universe which culminated in Jimmy recently describing PM as a troll and calling for him to be globally banned, PM is really not an appropriate person to lead the chapter in requests to the WMF for not-insignificant amounts of money. However, I don't have a problem with him suggesting potential projects and then seeing how others feel about them and whether they gel with other projects people are currently involved in. I attended the session on grants at the chapters meeting in Berlin (my notes are up on the wiki here- http://www.wikimedia.org.au//wiki/2010_chapters_meeting/Sarahs_notes#Working _group:_Volunteers http://www.wikimedia.org.au/wiki/2010_chapters_meeting/Sarahs_notes#Working _group:_Volunteers ) and we discussed the final date for grant applications and Eric made it clear that while May 15 is listed as the deadline, it's more like a preferred date. If applications are in by then they'll be processed more quickly, but we're welcome to submit applications after that date. Last year we had to pay back a grant a chapter member requested for an outreach conference they wanted to run because it fell through and didn't end up going ahead. Paying back the funds was a real headache for the committee (especially for Brian as the then-treasurer) and it took a considerable amount of time to resolve with the foundation. I don't want to see this happen again so I'd oppose any moves to rush through any ill-considered applications just to get them in before May 15 or that seem more orientated on getting money for the sake of it or for the simple stated purpose of engaging with the grant process. Grant applications are serious, not something that you submit just to engage with a process and there needs to be a properly thought through application with an idea of who, what, when, where and how the proposed project will be run. If we have to pay back another grant, it's going to reflect very poorly on the chapter so this isn't something that should just be slapped together at the last minute. I'd rather see us take the time to discuss possible ideas properly and get the details of any proposed projects members want to run nutted out as carefully as possible before submitting applications. On 5/5/10, Andrew orderinchao...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'll be straight up and state I'm not going to support this, for a variety
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Fwd: [cc-community] Australian Federal Government commits to CC BY as default
What can I say, this is absolutely awesome! Will this take effect retroactively, or will it only be new stuff that's CC-BY? Either way, it's a tremendous step forward! -Original Message- From: wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of John Vandenberg Sent: Tuesday, 4 May 2010 3:04 PM To: Wikimedia-au Cc: Jessica Coates Subject: [Wikimediaau-l] Fwd: [cc-community] Australian Federal Government commits to CC BY as default Woo hoo! This is fantastic news. A big thank you to all involved. -- Forwarded message -- From: Jessica Coates j2.coa...@qut.edu.au Date: Tue, May 4, 2010 at 11:54 AM Subject: [cc-community] Australian Federal Government commits to CC BY as default To: cc...@lists.ibiblio.org cc...@lists.ibiblio.org, cc-commun...@lists.ibiblio.org cc-commun...@lists.ibiblio.org, c...@lists.ibiblio.org c...@lists.ibiblio.org Big news from the Australian Government on the issue of access to public sector information. In an official response released yesterday, the Federal Government has agreed to 12 of the 13 recommendations to come out of the Government 2.0 Taskforce report released last December including Recommendation 6.3, which states that Creative Commons Attribution should be the default licensing position for PSI. In addition, the government has also agreed that the new Information Commissioner currently being established will issue guidelines to ensure that: § by default PSI is free, open, and reusable; § PSI is released as quickly as possible; § PSI may only be withheld where there is a legal obligation preventing its release. § when Commonwealth records become available for public access under the Archives Act 1983, works covered by Crown copyright will be automatically licensed under an appropriate open attribution licence. The response also includes an undertaking that the Attorney-Generals Department will examine the current state of copyright law with regard to orphan works (including section 200AB of the Copyright Act 1968), with the aim of recommending amendments that would remove the practical restrictions that currently impede the use of such works. This is the single biggest commitment to CC licensing and open access principles by Australian government, and should mean that the majority of Australian government material will soon be available under a CC licence. The fact that both the response and the announcement have been released under CC BY is a good start. The assignment of responsibility for implementation of the commitment to the new Information Commissioner is also an encouraging move, and will hopefully see a more coordinated approach to IP policy across the Australian government as a whole. The response is available here and a blog post from Finance Minister Tanner is available here. Jessica Coates Project Manager Creative Commons Clinic and Creative Commons Australia ___ cc-community mailing list cc-commun...@lists.ibiblio.org http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/cc-community ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Fwd: [cc-community] Australian Federal Government commits to CC BY as default
Incidentally, to add some content to my earlier post, here is the government's official response to the recommendations (which got chopped out of John's email): http://www.finance.gov.au/publications/govresponse20report/index.html#recomm endation-06 As Jessica pointed out, 6.3 is a particularly appealing point, but I'm less enamoured with their response to 6.7, which essentially says that each agency gets to choose a licence, which might lead to the more restrictive CC licences being used (ie: the various -NC options). Still, this is a massive step in the right direction, so let's hope this gets up legislatively speaking before the next election. Cheers, Craig -Original Message- From: wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Craig Franklin Sent: Tuesday, 4 May 2010 6:10 PM To: 'Wikimedia-au' Subject: Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Fwd: [cc-community] Australian Federal Government commits to CC BY as default What can I say, this is absolutely awesome! Will this take effect retroactively, or will it only be new stuff that's CC-BY? Either way, it's a tremendous step forward! -Original Message- From: wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of John Vandenberg Sent: Tuesday, 4 May 2010 3:04 PM To: Wikimedia-au Cc: Jessica Coates Subject: [Wikimediaau-l] Fwd: [cc-community] Australian Federal Government commits to CC BY as default Woo hoo! This is fantastic news. A big thank you to all involved. -- Forwarded message -- From: Jessica Coates j2.coa...@qut.edu.au Date: Tue, May 4, 2010 at 11:54 AM Subject: [cc-community] Australian Federal Government commits to CC BY as default To: cc...@lists.ibiblio.org cc...@lists.ibiblio.org, cc-commun...@lists.ibiblio.org cc-commun...@lists.ibiblio.org, c...@lists.ibiblio.org c...@lists.ibiblio.org Big news from the Australian Government on the issue of access to public sector information. In an official response released yesterday, the Federal Government has agreed to 12 of the 13 recommendations to come out of the Government 2.0 Taskforce report released last December including Recommendation 6.3, which states that Creative Commons Attribution should be the default licensing position for PSI. In addition, the government has also agreed that the new Information Commissioner currently being established will issue guidelines to ensure that: § by default PSI is free, open, and reusable; § PSI is released as quickly as possible; § PSI may only be withheld where there is a legal obligation preventing its release. § when Commonwealth records become available for public access under the Archives Act 1983, works covered by Crown copyright will be automatically licensed under an appropriate open attribution licence. The response also includes an undertaking that the Attorney-Generals Department will examine the current state of copyright law with regard to orphan works (including section 200AB of the Copyright Act 1968), with the aim of recommending amendments that would remove the practical restrictions that currently impede the use of such works. This is the single biggest commitment to CC licensing and open access principles by Australian government, and should mean that the majority of Australian government material will soon be available under a CC licence. The fact that both the response and the announcement have been released under CC BY is a good start. The assignment of responsibility for implementation of the commitment to the new Information Commissioner is also an encouraging move, and will hopefully see a more coordinated approach to IP policy across the Australian government as a whole. The response is available here and a blog post from Finance Minister Tanner is available here. Jessica Coates Project Manager Creative Commons Clinic and Creative Commons Australia ___ cc-community mailing list cc-commun...@lists.ibiblio.org http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/cc-community ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] IdeaScale summary
My impression was very positive - I think it's a great way for the committee to tap into what the rest of the membership are thinking. If I could suggest one improvement (not sure if it's possible given the software), it would be to have two phases; a brainstorming phase followed by a voting phase. I note that most of the top-rating ideas were ones that were posted early on, whereas the later ones didn't get as many votes, perhaps because not as many people saw them. Even if that can't be done now though, I still think that the tool in its current configuration is very useful and I'd be happy to see it used again. Cheers, Craig -Original Message- From: wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Brianna Laugher Sent: Friday, 29 January 2010 10:05 PM To: Wikimedia-au; Wikimedia Australia members-only discussion list. Subject: [Wikimediaau-l] IdeaScale summary Hi all, Thanks to those who participated in the IdeaScale brainstorming by voting. Thanks especially to Angela, ConMan, Adza, Craig, PM and Andrew for writing up their ideas. The final tallies are 110 - Create information kit to enable people to do outreach http://wmau.ideascale.com/a/dtd/17620-6682 52 - Create Wikimedia-based lesson plans for K-12 teachers to use http://wmau.ideascale.com/a/dtd/17656-6682 45 - Improve the hosting of wikimedia.org.au http://wmau.ideascale.com/a/dtd/17650-6682 42 - Bid for Wikimania http://wmau.ideascale.com/a/dtd/17474-6682 41 - open up the official wiki..goodness is sure to follow! http://wmau.ideascale.com/a/dtd/17482-6682 27 - Use geo-sitenotices http://wmau.ideascale.com/a/dtd/17475-6682 24 - Develop outreach best practices http://wmau.ideascale.com/a/dtd/17727-6682 21 - Chapter blog and/or twitter feed http://wmau.ideascale.com/a/dtd/17654-6682 20 - Rules reform to allow more flexible office-holder arrangements http://wmau.ideascale.com/a/dtd/17830-6682 18 - Create small grants scheme to supper small member initiatives http://wmau.ideascale.com/a/dtd/17873-6682 15 - Audit of Australian content on WP and Commons http://wmau.ideascale.com/a/dtd/17724-6682 9 - Review reports from other chapters for ideas http://wmau.ideascale.com/a/dtd/17666-6682 8 - Get a professional marketing plan to convince GLAMs about benefit of free culture collaboration http://wmau.ideascale.com/a/dtd/17655-6682 1 - Different strokes http://wmau.ideascale.com/a/dtd/17560-6682 The committee planning meeting is this weekend and we will use the input from this in our decisions. For those who used IdeaScale, what did you think of it? Would you use it again, or something else? thanks, Brianna -- They've just been waiting in a mountain for the right moment: http://modernthings.org/ ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Brainstorming for 2010
I have to endorse this - while email and messaging and stuff are of course a handy way to discuss issues, nothing has yet been invented that beats an old-fashioned face to face conversation for making process on issues and getting stuff done. This is a great use of the committee's time, and I hope that Melburnians take up the opportunity to meet with the committee while they're all in one place. (By the way, I'm sure the Brisbane community would love to welcome you all up here next time ;-) ) Cheers, Craig From: wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Sarah Ewart Sent: Wednesday, 20 January 2010 8:46 PM To: Wikimedia-au Subject: Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Brainstorming for 2010 Plus, the make up of the current committee is very similar to last year's committee. Brian, Brianna, Liam and myself were on last year's committee and Andrew was an observer. The only truly new member is Steve. Brian, Brianna and Liam attended the face to face meetup last year and I attended one day of it, and all six of us, including Steve, attended Glam; plus various other meetups and meetings etc that various members of the committee have attended. So, really the get to know each other value I think is realistically pretty limited and I wouldn't consider it good value for my time and money. However, I do think it is a very valuable opportunity for the committee to get together and properly discuss a number of issues that are difficult to discuss properly in text communication when we're all scattered around the country. On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 9:38 PM, Sarah Ewart sarahew...@gmail.com wrote: Michelle, from my own point of view, I really don't see it as a get to know each other thing and if that is what I considered the meeting to be, I wouldn't bother giving up a whole weekend and traveling to Melbourne, and I really doubt I'm the only one who would feel that way. There's a number of issues that have come up in recent months that have been difficult to resolve via email and IRC meetings and discussions and they really require us to sit down and have a really good discussion. Also, I think it's important for the committee to get together in person at times and talk through different issues we're facing, difficult things we're trying to achieve, etc and make sure we're all on the same page. As we all know, text based communication can be very difficult and it can be very easy to misunderstand each others and issues, too. So that's just my own perspective of the face to face meeting. There are currently two sets of committee meeting minutes in the process of being approved and published and both should be upon the wiki at the end of this week and they might help answer your final question. :) On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 8:10 PM, Michelle Gallaway mgalla...@gmail.com wrote: I don't want to shit on what is otherwise a great idea, but wasn't the AGM in November? Does it really take two months to get to know one another? What has (or has not) been going on in that time? On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 2:34 PM, Brianna Laugher brianna.laug...@gmail.com wrote: Hello members and friends, At the end of January, the committee is having a face to face meeting in Melbourne to get to know one another, strategise and make plans for 2010. Before that meeting, it will be useful to have some explicit brainstorming as a way for the committee to collect some idea of what we collectively consider important, or would like to see. Last year we did a brief survey, which wasn't a huge success; this year I would like to try something different. I set up a site for us at http://wmau.ideascale.com/ This site lets anyone suggest an idea, and others can put a number of votes to support various ideas. I have it configured so that anyone who registers with IdeaScale can add a new idea or vote on ideas. With voting, every user has a fixed number of votes (50 I think), and you can put multiple votes on an idea if you really like it. If you don't like an idea, just don't give it any votes. :) You can also of course add comments, and that is probably the most valuable thing you can do. I would guess this is most useful for 1) things that take longer than a week to plan and 2) things that involve or have some impact on the membership and/or general public. So this will not encompass all of the committee's responsibilities; some tech and policy and governance things won't be relevant to mention here. Secondly for Melburnians, we are planning to arrange a meetup for one of the meals on the weekend, probably in Richmond or the CBD. The details will appear soon at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Melbourne_15 . Please feel free to give your feedback on this list or privately. thanks, Brianna WMAU president ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Conroy - Measures to improve safety of the internet for families
Having looked closely at our statement of purpose, read Google's position on the matter, and read the following discussion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Australian_Wikipedians'_notice_board #Mandatory_internet_censorship ), I think that it's well within the chapter's role to put out a press release/statement expressing concern at this development. This filter, if implemented, has the potential to severely hamper our goal of (promoting) equality of opportunity to access and participate in the collaborative creation of Free Cultural Works. That said, I oppose the filter on personal and moral grounds myself, so you might take this with a grain of salt. I'd be fully supportive if we did something about this though - so long as anything we do makes it clear that we are not Wikipedia. Cheers, Craig From: wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Sent: Wednesday, 16 December 2009 10:44 PM To: Wikimedia-au Subject: Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Conroy - Measures to improve safety of the internet for families My own position is very similar to Liam's - personally opposed to the filter as a free-thinking Australian citizen who believes it should be up to parents what their kids see and the government has no place telling adults what they can or can not see. Additionally I think it could have speed effects and we're already one of the slower countries broadband-wise in the developed world. I also agree with Liam though that we need to be clear with the outside world that we are not Wikipedia, and it is a fine line (promoting something while not being responsible for it - which is not irresponsible, but rather acknowledging the responsiblity correctly lies elsewhere). cheers Andrew 2009/12/16 Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com Yes, indeed this is a good question and an important issue. On a personal basis I am completely opposed to the filter and I imagine most Wikimedians in Australia are. However, I would caution that the Chapter cannot be seen in word or deed to be responsible for Wikipedia. This was a problem faced by Wikimedia UK in both the virgin killer and the National Portrait Gallery issues - the UK chapter was very careful not to place itself as the official spokesperson for Wikipedia. Of course, the mandate of the Chapter is to advocate for Free Cultural Works and in that sense being involved in political lobbying is something that it can/could/should do. We have previously made a submission to a government inquiry for example. Making a statement about the filter or similar actions is within the chapter's powers. But... in the event that Wikipedia were to become blocked or was caught up in some scandal around this issue, the Chapter can only describe what Wikipedia policies and practices are - it cannot be seen as responsible for the content and have a policy for how to make Wikipedia unblocked or what-have-you. my 2 cents, -Liam wittylama.com/blog Peace, love metadata On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 5:26 AM, Andrew orderinchao...@gmail.com wrote: Matt, thanks - good question. As yet, no it doesn't have an official position - I have forwarded this to the committee list so one can be reached promptly. Cheers Andrew On 16/12/2009, Matt inbgn mattin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Does the chapter have a position on this proposalhttp://www.minister.dbcde.gov.au/media/media_releases/2009/115 ? Should it have a position? If it has a position, what should it be doing to advance that position? Cheers, Matt ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] warning on the wiki
I believe that the chapter wiki uses a third-party extension so that we can access Commons. In my experience, this extension is a bit flaky and sometimes causes problems. I don't have access to the code, but I'd say it's trying (and failing) to open a connection to Commons to load the image, and it's waiting until the remote call fails before it serves the page (which explains the lag). If the problem is on Commons' end, it should hopefully clear itself up, if it's on our end though it might be something for Werdna to have a look at. Cheers, Craig F. From: wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of private musings Sent: Monday, 14 December 2009 6:01 PM To: Wikimedia-au Subject: Re: [Wikimediaau-l] warning on the wiki well... being a technical genius 'n all - I identified the problem as due to the wiki source logo - and I changed Image: to File: - something tells me that this is nothing to do with why the problem went away.. but it has. cheers, Peter, PM. On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 6:58 PM, private musings thepmacco...@gmail.com wrote: I've been chipping away a bit on the wiki, and thought I should probably report this error which now appears at the top of the page; bWarning/b: file_get_contents(http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/api.php?titles=Image%3AWiki source-logo.svg http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/api.php?titles=Image%3AWikisource-logo.svgi iprop=timestamp%7Cuser%7Ccomment%7Curl%7Csize%7Csha1%7Cmetadata%7Cmimeprop= imageinfoformat=jsonaction=query amp;iiprop=timestamp%7Cuser%7Ccomment%7Curl%7Csize%7Csha1%7Cmetadata%7Cmime amp;prop=imageinfoamp;format=jsonamp;action=query) [a href='function.file-get-contents'function.file-get-contents/a]: failed to open stream: HTTP request failed! in b/srv/www/www.wikimedia.org.au/html/w/includes/HttpFunctions.php/b on line b116/bbr / I hope I didn't break anything. cheers, Peter, PM. ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] official wiki
I think that presenting editing access to the chapter wiki as a benefit of membership is a bit silly really. When I spruik membership to potential members, the ability to edit our wiki! doesn't even register on the things I tell them. Perhaps a compromise between the no access for non-members and open access viewpoints is in order. We could open access to everyone, provided they had an account. Accounts would still need to be approved by someone to weed out spam bots and the like (having managed a public-facing Wiki, I know that this is often a serious problem), and perhaps the accounts of non-members could be sequestered into the user space or something. If you look at Wikimedia UK's Recent Changes page, there is a lot of rubbish there that their admins are having to spend their time cleaning up - frankly I think our people have better things to do than play janitor on the chapter wiki. I don't know, apart from the whole open philosophy, I don't see any real reasons why anyone who is not a member would want to post on our Wiki, and the fact that the Billabong is quiet. I don't really see that as a problem since most of the communication and discussion occurs on this list, which is essentially open to the public anyway. Cheers, Craig From: wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Sent: Saturday, 12 December 2009 9:38 AM To: Wikimedia-au Subject: Re: [Wikimediaau-l] official wiki At the end of the day, and I think this is a point that isn't well understood because we have a foot on both sides of the border, this is the official wiki for a non profit organisation. The wiki's set up in such a way that those that are willing to support the aims of the organisation can edit freely. I don't know of any other similar organisations which offer open editing or participation - one I know that runs meetings for its members (and this is just networking!) charges $10 for non-members to attend a meeting; another runs closed email lists that non-members can't even see. As for the argument re vandalism - that isn't even our biggest prospective problem. The biggest is actually misrepresentation - the risk that we will be discredited as an organisation in the eyes of those we seek to build partnerships with. In the relatively insular world of free culture, edginess seems like a good thing, but in the real world, quite apart from our legal and other obligations with CAV, we have to deal with businesses, large organisations, governments, NGOs and the like. We're competing for their attention with more professional outfits which can offer them something. We're asking them to give us something - which requires a standard of credibility and professionalism. If random chaos is unfolding on our official website (and that is what it is), we have a bit of a problem in that area. Expecting already busy committee members (and I'm not even speaking for myself here) to monitor the wiki in such circumstances is an imposition on them and a completely unnecessary one - what do we stand to benefit from it, as against the costs? cheers Andrew 2009/12/12 Peter Halasz qub...@gmail.com Sarah, The only actual reason you've given for not opening up the wiki to non-members is because of fear of vandalism. Ok, so we have a problem: Potential vandalism. Solutions? 1. Actually observe actual vandalism before locking anything down. 2. Assign a couple of people to patrolling recent changes once a week 3. Locking individual pages when we require their integrity to be preserved. 4. Requiring wiki users to sign in 5. Requiring new wiki users to wait 3 days before editing 6. Banning everyone but paid members, who, after paying their membership, can apply for an account, which, when it expires, is no longer allowed to edit. C'mon, seriously? You went with #6? To combat vandalism? Although, as you say, we CAN keep the wiki locked up, why SHOULD we? And why with such tight control? Peter Halasz. User:Pengo (Lapsed member) ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Bidding for Wikimania 2012
Angela, Have you got any official support from the chapter for this bid? Having been the bid leader for the last time an Australian city took a tilt at this, I'd say that it's necessary to have committed support from the chapter to have any hope at all of success. I see that supporting the bid is a part of Liam's election platform, but I really think it's not appropriate to count on the chapter's enthusiastic support for a Sydney '12 bid without some sort of chapter-wide discussion on whether that's the best location and the best time to bid. I'm not saying that the idea of bidding is without merit, but I do think that this might not be the best time to proceed. In fact, when the chapter membership was polled in March, there seemed to very little to no support for bidding in 2011 (http://www.wikimedia.org.au/wiki/2009_member_goals_survey), and I'm not sure that opinions on the topic have changed wildly since then. Cheers, Craig -Original Message- From: wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Angela Sent: Thursday, 26 November 2009 4:29 PM To: Wikimedia-au Subject: [Wikimediaau-l] Bidding for Wikimania 2012 I think there's an advantage to putting up a bid page early so the jury can see that we're organised so I've started http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2012/Bids/Sydney Please add to it, and add your name if you can sign up to volunteer, either for a particular role or just generally. For inspiration, previous winning bids can be found here: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2005:Location http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2006/Boston http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2007/Taipei http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2008/Bids/Alexandria http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2009/Bids/Buenos_Aires http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2010/Bids/Gda%C5%84sk 2011 bids will be here: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2011/Bids Angela ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] The A E Bert Roberts photograph collection
It might just be the fact that I've not yet had my morning coffee, but under what grounds is he claiming it's copyfraud? This is the sort of thing I was worried about, and pedantic wikilawyering like this is in my opinion one of the main things that make external institutions nervous about working with us. Cheers, Craig F. From: wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Matt inbgn Sent: Sunday, 8 November 2009 8:26 AM To: Wikimedia-au Subject: Re: [Wikimediaau-l] The A E Bert Roberts photograph collection This deletion http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Brisbane-s treet-ipswich-r.jpg discussion may be of some interest. Matt 2009/11/8 Andrew orderinchao...@gmail.com indeed, fantastic effort :) I like the way in which it's been done - i.e. they still have control over what gets released, but then anything they decide to release is public. Makes it a lot less scary for the GLAM. 2009/11/7 Gnangarra gnanga...@gmail.com the file http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Hearse-r.jpg has been added to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hearse#History there are some really interesting image in the ones already uploaded thanks for your efforts Craig 2009/11/6 Craig Franklin cr...@halo-17.net Hi All, I'm pleased to announce that based on some contacts that I made at the GLAM-WIKI conference back in August, and some onsite work that the Brisbane Wikimedia community has been doing at the Queensland Museum (QM), the Museum has commenced uploading digitized images from their A E (Bert) Roberts photograph collection to Commons. Bert Roberts was a coachbuilder from Ipswich in the early 1900s , but also enjoyed photography and took photographs of a wide variety of subjects, chiefly scenes of everyday life in Queensland from the time. While not famous for his photography during his lifetime, after his death his collection of images came to be recognised as providing a unique view into the society of the time. His photographs are the subject of a Queensland Museum exhibition, which chiefly resides at their Toowoomba campus (the Cobb Co Museum), but which presently has travelled to Ipswich for a limited time. So far, 21 images have been uploaded to Commons, but there are over a thousand glass plate negatives in total that the Museum has. You can see what's been uploaded so far here: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:A_E_%22Bert%22_Roberts_plate_glas s_photo_collection My request to all of you, basically, is to: . Categorise, enhance, and basically edit the file pages as much as possible. . Look for appropriate pages on Wikipedia and other places where this content can be used, and use it. . Spread the word that GLAM institutions are seeing the benefits of making their collections available through Commons and other free media repositories! . Watch out and make sure the pages aren't vandalised, and any problems that crop up are dealt with quickly so that QM can concentrate on providing us with free content, and not learning arcane points of Wiki-law. Many of the original plate glass negatives held by the museum have not been digitised yet, but if there is anyone who would be interested in volunteering some of their time to learn how to do, and then actually *do* the digitisation, there may be an opportunity to get in and do that. If you're interested (and preferably have some serious photography experience), let me know and I'll pass your details on. It's my hope that this will be but the first of many successful collaborations between WMAU people and GLAM institutions throughout the country. I already have a couple of other collaborations cooking away here in Queensland that will hopefully result in a win not only for the WM projects, but also open access to cultural and heritage material in general. If anyone has any questions regarding these particular images, please feel free to ask me! Cheers, Craig Franklin ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l -- GN. http://gnangarra.redbubble.com/ ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] A Petition
I'm generally pessimistic about how successful petitions can be when presented to the government. That said, perhaps an open letter signed by various free-culture groups (including WMAU) delivered to Senators Lundy and Conroy, Julia Gillard (in her role as Education Minister), and Peter Garrett as Arts Minister, could gain some interest. At the moment, releasing stuff under free licences isn't a macro-vote winner, so I don't see that we're going to be able to have much influence yet (not withstanding Kate Lundy's excellent work so far, for which we should be very appreciative), so I think that the focus should be on convincing people that what we do is generally a good idea - if we can get the public to come, the politicians will follow! We should also look at influencing state governments as well - since they themselves are great sponsors of GLAM bodies and the like. For instance, the Queensland Museum is basically an agency of the QLD state government. I'd imagine arrangements for state libraries, museums and the like are the same in other states and territories. Regards, Craig (who is sick at home from work, so if the above post makes no sense, I apologise!) -Original Message- From: wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Simonpedia Sent: Monday, 2 November 2009 10:53 AM To: wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikimediaau-l] A Petition Hi Craig, Liam, Just reading through your comments and links. Two thing stuck out. The first is Catherine's comment; But I also know that this would be a significant change for cultural institutions and that without a ministerial directive, it won't happen across the sector any time soon. http://catherinestyles.com/2009/10/15/glam-wiki-recommendations/ The second is Kate Lundy's this is the 'default position of the government'. This discussion is taking place in all publically funded institutions at present; not just GLAMs. The gov2 hackfest in Canberra last week was another step in this chipping away at monoliths. Can I make the suggestion that it might be time to offer a petition. The committee down there is playing with trying to do this electronically, I can't see how this may be attempted without a Single Sign On for all Australian citizens. But that's almost there now. This might be good opportunity to get the first step into the online world for .gov.au institutions. At least we can encourage the .gov to put their policy where their mouth is. http://www.aph.gov.au/House/committee/petitions/index.htm regards, simonfj Wow Craig, this is great and the work you've been doing with the QM is really important outreach and local interaction. It's one think for the Wikimedia community to say give us your photos but you actually getting out there and building a personal relationship with the institution is incredibly valuable. Thank you! I would also like to point people to another recent post (more from the Library angle) about interacting with Wikipedia: http://www.libraryjournal.com/article/CA6703519.html There's also this personal response from the sector about the GLAM-WIKI recommendations: And I know that the National Library is working on a formal/institutional-level response to the recommendations too. All in all, there is a lot of work going on in the GLAM sector to find ways of working with Wikimedia! There'll be a few announcements along these lines in the near future and I know from talking with some European colleagues that our work in Australia is being looked at as the best-practice. So, Criag, keep up the good work and please tell us if you need any specific assistance. -Liam [[Witty lama]] VP Wikimedia Australia wittylama.com/blog Peace, love metadata On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Craig Franklin cr...@halo-17.net wrote: ?We certainly live in interesting (and rapidly changing) times. There is a loud and significant clarion call from Commonwealth and State governments to digitise collections to enable free public access to our cultural assets. As Senator Kate Lundy stated in her address at the GLAM-Wiki conference in Canberra in August, this is the 'default position of the government'. Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaau-l/attachments/20091029/caab 31e9/attachment-0001.htm -- Message: 2 Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 10:59:27 +1100 From: Angela bees...@gmail.com Subject: [Wikimediaau-l] Fundraising To: Wikimedia-au wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org Message-ID: 8b722b800910291659y662e42e3v8535cdd6a906f...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Wikimedia's fundraising campaign is starting next month. Six chapters are on the list to take part
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Interesting Blog posts - provides an insight into the challenges that GLAM institutions might have in dealing with Commons (and other free media repositories)
Hi Liam, Thanks for those links, I hadn't seen the blog post before. I think there's some excellent recommendations that we should consider closely in there, including the customized training, (which is what I've been doing at QM), and developing a document to put somewhere (maybe on the chapter website) that goes over the advantages of allowing commercial use licensing on free content. On this second point there is some extant material on Commons and scattered about the rest of the place, but we could bring it all together and adapt it to the specific situation of Australian GLAM institutions (particularly if we can quote people like Cath on the page, if others are doing it, I hope that we can use peer pressure to get our way!). Cheers, Craig From: wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Liam Wyatt Sent: Thursday, 29 October 2009 6:47 PM To: Wikimedia-au Subject: Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Interesting Blog posts - provides an insight into the challenges that GLAM institutions might have in dealing with Commons (and other free media repositories) Wow Craig, this is great and the work you've been doing with the QM is really important outreach and local interaction. It's one think for the Wikimedia community to say give us your photos but you actually getting out there and building a personal relationship with the institution is incredibly valuable. Thank you! I would also like to point people to another recent post (more from the Library angle) about interacting with Wikipedia: http://www.libraryjournal.com/article/CA6703519.html There's also this personal response from the sector about the GLAM-WIKI recommendations: http://catherinestyles.com/2009/10/15/glam-wiki-recommendations/ And I know that the National Library is working on a formal/institutional-level response to the recommendations too. All in all, there is a lot of work going on in the GLAM sector to find ways of working with Wikimedia! There'll be a few announcements along these lines in the near future and I know from talking with some European colleagues that our work in Australia is being looked at as the best-practice. So, Criag, keep up the good work and please tell us if you need any specific assistance. -Liam [[Witty lama]] VP Wikimedia Australia wittylama.com/blog Peace, love metadata On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Craig Franklin cr...@halo-17.net wrote: Hi All, Some interesting blog posts from David Milne, manager of Strategic Learning at the Queensland Museum. I have been working closely with David in trying to get access to some of QM's extensive collection of public domain photographs and other media, and I think this could be a useful little primer for anyone who is thinking of jumping in and doing the same with one of their local institutions: http://manexus.ning.com/profiles/blogs/back-at-reality-ranch-social We certainly live in interesting (and rapidly changing) times. There is a loud and significant clarion call from Commonwealth and State governments to digitise collections to enable free public access to our cultural assets. As Senator Kate Lundy stated in her address at the GLAM-Wiki conference in Canberra in August, this is the 'default position of the government'. This implies the GLAM sector adopting a spirit of openness, sharing and connectedness. Other inducements to participate in an open access, communication revolution include: the Government 2.0 Taskforce initiative, the Government Information Licensing Framework (GILF) and the need to respond, in this state, to the Queensland 2020:Ideas to Action in order to facilitate 'universal access to our arts and cultural assets'. Back at 'Reality Ranch' many GLAM sector institutions are contending with multiple challenges, not least of which are retaining staff during financially challenging times and maintaining traditional visiting audience numbers. Developing a policy for the use of social media (or helping to reduce your institution's carbon footprint) may be mere peripheral points on the strategic planning radar. Other contributory forces which contribute to a state of partial inertia (in terms of the adoption of social media and digitisation strategies) lay partly with curatorial staff and the IT staff responsible for internet security. There are naturally honourable exceptions to this generalisation; this observation is far from being a slight on their good work. However, curators and IT gurus have reasons for maintaining the 'status quo'; changing the role of curatorial expert to facilitator can be challenging for some (and anecdotally, liberating for others). Responding to public comments made after uploading digitised photographs of collections onto FLICKR or Wikimedia Commons is a tremendous form of social engagement for example, but this is thought to be time-consuming by sceptical staff. Raising the defensive internet screening barriers even higher
[Wikimediaau-l] Interesting Blog posts - provides an insight into the challenges that GLAM institutions might have in dealing with Commons (and other free media repositories)
policy with Commons' file naming policy. This list has been a bit quiet, so I figured I'd throw this out there for discussion and further comment! Cheers, Craig Franklin ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] IRC office hours - Strategic Planning
How fortunate that it's a public holiday here in Brisbane tomorrow then! Cheers, Craig -Original Message- From: wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Nick Jenkins Sent: Tuesday, 11 August 2009 5:43 PM To: Wikimedia-au Subject: Re: [Wikimediaau-l] IRC office hours - Strategic Planning Um, is that 6am (australian) EST? No, it's equivalent to Wednesday 2 PM Sydney/Melbourne/Canberra/Brisbane time: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html?month=8day=12year=2 009p1=240p2=224p3=-1p4=-1iv=0 -- All the best, Nick. -Original Message- From: Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com Reply-to: Wikimedia-au wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org To: Wikimedia-au wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaau-l] IRC office hours - Strategic Planning Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 17:18:03 +1000 Um, is that 6am (australian) EST? There are too many timezones and timezone acronyms floating around What time is the next office hours in Australian timezones? -Liam On 8/11/09, Angela bees...@gmail.com wrote: The next Wikimedia Strategy office hours is tomorrow (email below). The meeting, previously only at 6am EST, was moved so that Australians and others this side of the world would be more likely to attend. So, please show up and make it worth their while staying up late. :) You can find proposals, and make your own, here: http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Call_for_Proposals#Current_submissions Angela -- Forwarded message -- From: Philippe Beaudette pbeaude...@wikimedia.org Date: Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 5:08 AM Subject: [Foundation-l] IRC office hours - Strategic Planning To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundatio...@lists.wikimedia.org It's that time again - Strategic Planning IRC office hours! This week's office hours will be: Wednesday from 04:00-05:00 UTC, which is: Tuesday, 9-10pm PDT Wednesday, 12am-1am EDT For more information, go to http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_Office_Hours Hope to see you there! Philippe Beaudette Facilitator, Strategic Planning Wikimedia Foundation pbeaude...@wikimedia.org Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate ___ foundation-l mailing list foundatio...@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l -- wittylama.com/blog Peace, love metadata ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Wikimedia, judges and strippers
You beat me by mere seconds. Probably not enough for an enwiki article yet, but hopefully just the first of many! Cheers, Craig From: wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Liam Wyatt Sent: Monday, 3 August 2009 8:56 PM To: Wikimedia-au Subject: Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Wikimedia, judges and strippers Well, I'm not sure actually what that article means! But, here's an even better link: The first article in the press about GLAM-WIKI :-D http://www.itwire.com/content/view/26683/1231/ It's not only long and positive, it's also factually correct! -Liam [[witty lama]] On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 12:45 AM, Craig Franklin cr...@halo-17.net wrote: Well, I have to admit, this is probably the most attention-grabbing subject line yet posted to this mailing list! =) From: wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Jessica Coates Sent: Monday, 3 August 2009 2:35 PM To: wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikimediaau-l] Wikimedia, judges and strippers In case people haven't seen it - discussion on references to Wikmedia sites by judges - including one all about strippers. http://www.dbs.id.au/blog/law/lap-dance-wikipedia.html Jessica Coates Project Manager Creative Commons Clinic Queensland University of Technology ph: 07 3138 8301 fax: 07 3138 9395 email: j2.coa...@qut.edu.au ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l -- wittylama.com/blog Peace, love metadata ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Request for Wikipedia editor to speak on ABC radio this Sunday
Dang, if I still had a portable AM radio I could have listened to this on the bus =( Good luck, Liam! Cheers, Craig -Original Message- From: wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Brianna Laugher Sent: Sunday, 26 July 2009 5:34 PM To: Wikimedia-au Subject: Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Request for Wikipedia editor to speak on ABC radio this Sunday So this is going ahead... I was a bit surprised that only Liam put his hand up, but that's fine :) The program is on ABC Local at 7.30pm - 774 Melbourne 6.30pm - 702 Sydney 6.30pm - 612 Brisbane 5.30pm - 720 Perth 6.30pm - 666(!) Canberra 7pm - 891 Adelaide 6.30pm - 936 Hobart Hmmm I am a little bit worried that Melbourne is getting cut off by football! Maybe I will have to listen online. http://www.abc.net.au/sydney/radio/schedule.htm?section=online cheers Brianna 2009/7/22 Brianna Laugher brianna.laug...@gmail.com: Hi, I've received a request for a Wikipedia editor to speak on James O'Loghlin's ABC radio show on Sunday evenings. As far I gathered the angle for the story is just like the nuts and bolts of how editing works on Wikipedia (rather than any recent news). If you'd be available around 6.45pm this Sunday and would be happy to talk about editing Wikipedia, please reply to me (off-list) with your contact details, and I'll pass the details on. thanks, Brianna -- They've just been waiting in a mountain for the right moment: http://modernthings.org/ -- They've just been waiting in a mountain for the right moment: http://modernthings.org/ ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] AGM Election nominations closed
Should the VP candidates be included in the Ordinary Member election too (if they want to) so the failing VP candidate may still be a committee member if they get enough votes to be an Ordinary Member? (Probably not for this election.) -- Mark Hurd, B.Sc.(Ma.)(Hons.) I'd say that section 23(2) of the rules probably rules this out, namely A candidate may only be nominated for one office, or as an ordinary member of the committee, prior to the annual general meeting. Also, I feel it would be a bit odd now that nominations have closed to change the way the election will be conducted. Cheers, Craig --- Craig Franklin PO Box 1093 Toombul, Q, 4012 Australia http://www.halo-17.net - Australia's Favourite Source of Indie Music, Art, and Culture. ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Wikipedia and schools
Nifty! Much more attractive than my list - did you use a bot or a tool to generate this, or was it all done by hand? Cheers, Craig --- Craig Franklin PO Box 1093 Toombul, Q, 4012 Australia http://www.halo-17.net - Australia's Favourite Source of Indie Music, Art, and Culture. - Original Message - From: K. Peachey p858sn...@yahoo.com.au To: Wikimedia-au wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 2:12 PM Subject: [personal] Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Wikipedia and schools Still, doing this groundwork can be useful for other things, namely, identifying that the articles on some of our earlier Prime Ministers could use a bit of spit and polish. Here is a table of all their current rankings [[Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Australia/Australian_Schools_Selection]] It lists their WP Aus, WikiProject Australian politics and their WP Bio rankings ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Wikipedia and schools
Oh, definitely. Unfortunately most of my contacts in Education Queensland are off on holidays right now, and probably won't be back until the new year. I'd imagine this is probably the case in all of the other state education bureaucracies. Still, doing this groundwork can be useful for other things, namely, identifying that the articles on some of our earlier Prime Ministers could use a bit of spit and polish. And yeah, the proposed audience for this is different to that of the original SOS Children selection; because I think that Australian students (and Australian teachers and educators!) could make good use of this resource as well. Cheers, Craig --- Craig Franklin PO Box 1093 Toombul, Q, 4012 Australia http://www.halo-17.net - Australia's Favourite Source of Indie Music, Art, and Culture. - Original Message - From: David Gerard dger...@gmail.com To: Wikimedia-au wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 12:19 AM Subject: [personal] Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Wikipedia and schools 2008/12/13 Craig Franklin cr...@halo-17.net: Well, I just went through all the Australian Prime Minister articles to see what state they were in - I expect that we'd ideally want to include all of these if possible. It took me about half an hour to do, although some of that was spent messing with templates and the like. The results are here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Australia/Australian_Schools_Selection/Article_Assessment_Workspace In addition to seeing what we ideally should include, it also gives a good idea on how good our coverage on this topic is (my verdict: good, but could be better). Might be worth asking some schools and teachers: Look, would this be useful for you? The impetus for the SOS Children selection was to make an encyclopedia for them to use in their own schools in third-world countries, i.e. they had a specific use in mind. The choice of the English National Curriculum was just as a handy standard to work to. So who's this for would be useful to check :-) - d. ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Australian stats, soon to be CC
I think you'll see more of it. I don't think that anyone is arguing that ABS stats are unreliable or anything, and this news is likely to be welcomed with open arms by the Australian open source community. Of course, the stats themselves are probably not encyclopædic in their unedited form, but this should remove any ambiguity on making graphs or maps with them, as well as providing a lot of good publicity. In short, this is a good thing! Regards, Craig F. --- Craig Franklin PO Box 1093 Toombul, Q, 4012 Australia http://www.halo-17.net - Australia's Favourite Source of Indie Music, Art, and Culture. - Original Message - From: Mark Hurd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Wikimedia-au wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 8:39 PM Subject: [personal] Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Australian stats, soon to be CC On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 1:07 PM, Confusing Manifestation [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip the Australian Bureau of Statistics website, but I figured it's worth bringing to the attention of the relevant parties. ABS statistics on its web site have been free-as-in-beer for a while now, but apparently as an attempt to capture the attention of people searching for free-as-in-speech information, The ABS is poised to introduce Creative Commons licensing for the majority of its web content. From about two weeks from now, apparently almost everything on the ABS web site will be under a CC-BY-2.5 Australia license. Will this mean more ABS stats on Wikipedia, or less, because it will now be seen as an equal resource and not worth repeating on Wikipedia, like imdb, the Channel 9 website (see 20 to 01 episode content list deletions), etc? Regards, Mark Hurd, B.Sc.(Ma.)(Hons.) ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Announcement - publication with CCau
Well, I would suggest spelling participatory correctly (=p), but other than that, it sounds like a splendid idea; one that I'd be happy to lend a hand in. Cheers, Craig --- Craig Franklin PO Box 1093 Toombul, Q, 4012 Australia http://www.halo-17.net - Australia's Favourite Source of Indie Music, Art, and Culture. - Original Message - From: Brianna Laugher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Wikimedia-au wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 11:10 PM Subject: [personal] [Wikimediaau-l] Announcement - publication with CCau Hi, I mentioned this briefly in last week's minutes, but this week we finalised it all, so I will talk about it in a bit more detail. I am happy to say that we are going to work on a joint publication with Creative Commons Australia (CCau), to be launched at the Free as in Freedom miniconf I am organising at the Linux conference in late January. (http://freeasinfreedom.modernthings.org/) I still haven't figured out a good name for it (possibly Handbook for Partipatory Culture in Australia, but gosh that's long), but it will basically be a good companion to the miniconf, with brief intro/overviews to lots of themes that we are familiar with relating to openness and freedom - see the initial list here: http://wikimedia.org.au/wiki/Participatory_Culture_Primer And there will be some essential links for each topic, as well as information particular to the Australian context. Basically it will work like this: we supply all the content, they supply the layout and printing. I think it is an excellent plan that plays to the strengths of both groups. We should supply the content by the end of December or earlier. Of course it will be under a free license, probably CC-BY-SA. This is an idea I came up with when I was planning my miniconf and thinking about what themes to include. I thought writing a bit about each one would force me to learn about it properly, and then if I was going to do that, I may as well make a little booklet, and then I may as well make it a WMAU thing, and then I may as well see if CCau was interested in helping out.. :) Beyond the conference, I think it will be a useful document to really act as a primer for people who have not yet been exposed to these kinds of ideas, and really show the breadth and interconnectedness of them too. So I'm kind of thinking, in a worst case scenario I will write most of it myself, but I certainly hope that doesn't end up being the case, not because I would hate to do so but because it's more fun to work with other people and get their perspectives. Also, name suggestions are _extremely_ welcome. :) cheers Brianna -- They've just been waiting in a mountain for the right moment: http://modernthings.org/ ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
