Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT

my mind. From: Mark - Myakka Technologies Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 3:58 PM To: Chuck McCown Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT Chuck, But do you really need to get the cost down that low? I will admit and most people on this list that know me will agree, I'm a cheap SOB

Re: [AFMUG] ISP in a box

in there on a separate managed network to keep track of power and heat/temp and track the switches/CPE’s etc. That’s about it. Rinse, repeat. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 1:02 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re

Re: [AFMUG] ISP in a box

would do on a x86 box On 02/12/2018 01:59 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Had a subdivision developer contact me, wanting service for their hundred or so homes.� I can get DIA close to the area at a reasonable area.� It will require some build but that is OK, that is something I feel some

Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT

On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 2:32 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: ONT Housing (Clam Shell) $ 29.00 ONT $ 215.00 Unicam $ 15.00 Cyber Power $ 81.00 Cyber Install $ 110.00 House Sub

Re: [AFMUG] ISP in a box

about it. Rinse, repeat. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 1:02 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ISP in a box Guess I don’t need DNS. 8.8.8.8 seems cheap and easy... From: Chuck McCown Sent

Re: [AFMUG] ISP in a box

about it. Rinse, repeat. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 1:02 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ISP in a box Guess I don’t need DNS. 8.8.8.8 seems cheap and easy... From: Chuck McCown Sent: Monday

Re: [AFMUG] ISP in a box

of core services at my NOC/core rather than having a totally separate network. Just my opinion. On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 3:33 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: No, it isn’t. Many miles away. From: Josh Baird Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 1:03 PM To: af@afmug.com S

Re: [AFMUG] ISP in a box

server, so it might not be a bad idea to stick some kind of a little server in there anyway, but I really don't see any reason why it couldn't all go in a cabinet on the corner of the street... it wouldn't even need to be a particularly large cabinet. On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 1:59 PM, Chuck

Re: [AFMUG] ISP in a box

at 2:59 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: Had a subdivision developer contact me, wanting service for their hundred or so homes. I can get DIA close to the area at a reasonable area. It will require some build but that is OK, that is something I feel some level of exp

Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT

: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT ah I see. For telephone reliability? -- Original Message -- From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: 2/12/2018 3:00:39 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT Nope. It is a requirement for regulated areas, not so for u

Re: [AFMUG] ISP in a box

Guess I don’t need DNS. 8.8.8.8 seems cheap and easy... From: Chuck McCown Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 12:59 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] ISP in a box Had a subdivision developer contact me, wanting service for their hundred or so homes. I can get DIA close to the area

Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT

on AE? -- Original Message -- From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: 2/12/2018 2:50:00 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT $100/house for AE You pay for the splitters that fit the cabinet and cross box. Some cost more than others depend

[AFMUG] ISP in a box

Had a subdivision developer contact me, wanting service for their hundred or so homes. I can get DIA close to the area at a reasonable area. It will require some build but that is OK, that is something I feel some level of expertise. Considering a minimal NOC build. I asked this

Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT

Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT$100/house for AE You pay for the splitters that fit the cabinet and cross box. Some cost more than others depending on the sheet metal. From: Mark - Myakka Technologies Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 12:44 PM To: Chuck McCown Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON

Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT

To: Chuck McCown Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT Chuck, Dug up some of my costs on the GPON. One port with a C+ class laser and a 1x32 splitter cost me about $1000. So if I stick with my 50% utilization numbers, that gets me about $62 per user. Plus an indoor ONT gets me about $200-$225

Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT

to think about what THEY will prefer. They'll probably prefer PON. Humans are horrible at assessing their own biases, but I probably have a bias towards ethernet because it's familiar. I try to bear that in mind too. -- Original Message -- From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmf

Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT

having a hard time convincing myself to do PON. From: Mark - Myakka Technologies Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 11:09 AM To: Chuck McCown Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT Chuck, PLC splitter in spice case doing full fusion splicing. -- Best regards, Mark

Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT

d. More power required. More battery backup required. Consumers not even close to using up 1-2 generations back of PON capacity in most places. On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 7:53 PM, Chuck McCown <ch

Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT

More fiber required. Larger chassis required. More power required. More battery backup required. Consumers not even close to using up 1-2 generations back of PON capacity in most places. On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 7:53 PM, C

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Name that connector

It will be one of this series: https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/phoenix-contact/1757116/277-1021-ND/260389 -Original Message- From: Dan Parrish Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 9:06 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Name that connector I think google "12-pin screw

Re: [AFMUG] 24 GHz vs 11 GHz

11, 2018 9:06 PM, "Adam Moffett" <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote: Trango did. They subbed out the coordination and licensing to Radyn, but I don't think they marked it up much. -- Original Message -- From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> To: af@afmu

Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT

So, why do PON and not active in these super cheap optics days? From: Chuck Hogg Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 6:10 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT We are walking away from them and Alphion...I think Mark's product with Zhone is different. Regards, Chuck On Sun

Re: [AFMUG] 24 GHz vs 11 GHz

.net From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 4:24:07 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 24 GHz vs 11 GHz If you are selling radios that need licenses, I would think that perhaps you should get some kind of bulk deal and pass the saving alo

Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT

We are walking away from them and Alphion...I think Mark's product with Zhone is different. Regards, Chuck On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 2:29 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: > I think Chuck Hogg walked far away from DASAN... or maybe it was DASAN > that rescued them

Re: [AFMUG] 24 GHz vs 11 GHz

s to the missing context of rain zone, and I also agree with Mike H.. that Rain zone's are a rough guide, not an absolute ref ). I am a bit puzzled about Chuck M's comment about the Cost of License being high ? and a desire to purchase a 'bundle' which includes coordination etc... I would like

Re: [AFMUG] How to test your license protection?

I got to the point I just throw the notices away without opening them. From: Lewis Bergman Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 7:04 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] How to test your license protection? I can speak to the fact that Commscope does watch your license and if something is

Re: [AFMUG] 24 GHz vs 11 GHz

I have always been scared to use them (24 Ghz) beyond 2 miles. I want to know (and perhaps Liz or Tim are still lurking here), is there any way to re-use your 11 GHz channels in your local area? The big problem for me is the cost of the license. UBNT or Mimosa ought to figure out a way to

Re: [AFMUG] tying down wires

I think I spent $4 at Home Depot yesterday for one to play with. From: Steve Jones Sent: Friday, February 09, 2018 6:59 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] tying down wires it works but they run 40 some bucks around here On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 6:47 PM, Jon Langeler

Re: [AFMUG] tying down wires

Or leave the screws. Space it off the back of the box such that the holes line up with the connectors on the PCB. Use the screws to clamp the wires. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 4:15 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] tying down wires Someone who knows what it

Re: [AFMUG] tying down wires

That is because it is a floating ground... From: Adam Moffett Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 4:15 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] tying down wires Someone who knows what it is might try grounding with it. And they'll complain you didn't include the screws. -- Original

[AFMUG] tying down wires

I wonder if I put one of these in the box: https://www.homedepot.com/p/Eaton-14-Terminal-Ground-Bar-Kit-GBK14CS/100175627 with the screws removed, if that would be a suitable thing to tie off cables coming into the box to? (not sure the image will come through)

Re: [AFMUG] bummed

Yeahbut, with Walmart, you get what you pay for you know. Nothing but Walmart's best for me. -Original Message- From: Robert Andrews Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 3:13 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] bummed They have two versions, one is the "premium" with a little more

Re: [AFMUG] bummed

Odd, I went to Walmart and entered 29DC and every one came back as no longer available or out of stock. Walmart #: 550341783 Then one popped up in my local store. Walmart #: 563424242 for $86.83 Looks like the exact same battery but with a different SKU. -Original Message- From:

Re: [AFMUG] bummed

I did an in store pickup. It said they had 6 but only had 3 when we got there. And ever since they have not been available anywhere. -Original Message- From: Robert Andrews Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 2:23 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] bummed Did you get them online?

[AFMUG] bummed

Bought 3 of the 29DC batts from Walmart. I need 4. Now it is saying no longer available. Arrgh. Wonder what is the closest...

Re: [AFMUG] new product question

Yeah, that has been asked for. I can do it but it will be ugly. From: George Skorup Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 11:01 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] new product question It would be cool to have 4 single-mode duplex LC couplers in that box too. On 2/9/2018 9:47 AM,

Re: [AFMUG] OT Hello World

I will use a GPS disciplined reference signal to gate the actual timing pulse stream. It is inserting the correct F bit every 193 bits that is the trick. From: Forrest Christian (List Account) Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 10:23 AM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Hello World gcc -o output

Re: [AFMUG] new product question

Nice if you knew the direction of the surge source... From: Forrest Christian (List Account) Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 9:40 AM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] new product question I know some surge protector manufacturers used circuits which needed to be oriented in a certain direction in

Re: [AFMUG] OT Hello World

OK, but I need a file called “make”, right? And it needs stuff inside it. This is one example I found: all: output_file_name output_file_name: main.o gcc main.o -lbcm2835 -o output_file_name main.o: main.c gcc -c main.c clean: rm -rf *o output_file_name I presume this is

Re: [AFMUG] new product question

I get asked that all the time. I always ask them which direction the data is flowing on the ethernet cable From: Adam Moffett Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 9:17 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] new product question .a digression, but that picture reminded me that I really

Re: [AFMUG] new product question

If you have 8 wires, perhaps different gauges and insulation thicknesses, a single bar holding them all is going to have a problem exerting equal pressure. I could put a strip of rubber on it I guess. Or multiple bars. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 8:51 AM To:

Re: [AFMUG] new product question

Could you give me a link to the product that has this feature? From: Adam Moffett Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 8:51 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] new product question It holds tighter than a zip tie. You definitely can't pull the cable out of a transtector without shredding the

Re: [AFMUG] new product question

I can do the piece of metal too. But is it that much better? From: Adam Moffett Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 8:37 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] new product question Better is subjective. Your way is simple and cheap, and that might be better. Some rely on a properly tightened

Re: [AFMUG] new product question

I can, just trying to keep cost down. I am using my regular tower surge protector enclosure. Will have 4 circuits in and 4 circuits out. From: Dave Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 8:37 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] new product question What about a single loop on the actual

[AFMUG] new product question

I am making a new tower mount multiple circuit surge protector. This one is for multiple higher current DC power circuits/ conductors only. Trying to come up with a good way to allow the wires to be secured. Right now I have a series of rectangular slots in the PCB so a zip tie can be passed

Re: [AFMUG] OT Hello World

I built the device with an arduino first but it is not fast enough. I am creating T1 timing and test patterns and running flat out that Arduino barely makes it but with too much jitter. Pi is not that much more money and way faster. From: Lewis Bergman Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 8:16

Re: [AFMUG] OT Hello World

It appears gcc got loaded as part of the NOOBs package I put on the machine. -Original Message- From: Robert Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 8:13 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Hello World I am guessing here, but it sounds like you need the make program and gcc? i.e.

[AFMUG] OT Hello World

I hate make files. I love IDEs. Bought a raspberry PI and am playing with it a bit. So far I really like it. Started to write a program using a Geaney editor. Nice editor. Hit the make button and I discovered it is really just a shell, that you have to have a gcc make somewhere. So, not

Re: [AFMUG] OT Porn ..... (filtering)

Genesis 29 and 39 have some similar content. Lots daughters etc. I do have to say, I wish I could be like one of them there male consorts like when I was a young fella. From: Eric Kuhnke Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 6:43 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Porn .

Re: [AFMUG] blocking

https://le.utah.gov/~2018/bills/static/SB0134.html Todd Weiler From: Layne Sisk Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2018 10:58 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] blocking Chuck, Which legislator is proposing this? I got Senator Bramble to back his off a few years ago after a conversation

Re: [AFMUG] Streaming service included

I wonder if they would allow a co-op type of company to get to the 100K... -Original Message- From: Layne Sisk Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2018 10:52 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Streaming service included Spoke on a panel 2 days ago with Netflix and asked them about it.

Re: [AFMUG] OT Porn ..... (filtering)

Well, not really trying to force religious ideas on the population, just religious ideals. The legislation is attempting to force ISPs to offer an in-house filtering product. Hopefully the bigger ISPs will fight it off. We have an exemption for the smaller ISPs. From: Josh Reynolds

Re: [AFMUG] Is this a good time to get in Bitcoin ?????

Hard to brew beer that tastes as good as your favorite commercial brew IMO. From: Simon Westlake Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 12:27 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Is this a good time to get in Bitcoin ? It's always something I've wanted to do, but I'm not sure my

Re: [AFMUG] Is this a good time to get in Bitcoin ?????

I used to make beer when I was a kid. I grew pot too. Easier to grow pot than it is to make beer. In the 1970s pot was decriminalized in Oregon. Everybody that wanted to smoke had grow lights in a closet somewhere. From: Bill Prince Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 12:24 PM To: Motorola

Re: [AFMUG] Is this a good time to get in Bitcoin ?????

Why not just grow your own if you wanted pot? California has a decent climate for it. From: Bill Prince Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 11:56 AM To: Motorola III Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Is this a good time to get in Bitcoin ? I think that is what might happen in CA legalization. The sum

Re: [AFMUG] Is this a good time to get in Bitcoin ?????

We still have beer limited to 3.2% alcohol here it is a "unique" political climate in Utah. -Original Message- From: Robert Andrews Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 11:44 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Is this a good time to get in Bitcoin ? re: pot store in

Re: [AFMUG] Is this a good time to get in Bitcoin ?????

Rather than buy bitcoin, I think I will buy some real estate situated for building a recreational pot store at some point in the future At least the land will retain some value. (This is Utah, that alone should tell you how likely that is to happen). From: Jason McKemie Sent: Wednesday,

Re: [AFMUG] Is this a good time to get in Bitcoin ?????

I told my investment company (AG Edwards) to put it all on Google. After the fact I found out they didn’t . Something about Google “going dutch”. Oh man was I pissed. From: justsumname . Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 7:41 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Is this a good time

Re: [AFMUG] OT Porn ..... (filtering)

Proposed legislation in Utah. -Original Message- From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 9:04 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Porn . (filtering) Where did this post come from? I need some backstory here. On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 11:07 AM,

Re: [AFMUG] OT Falcon heavy

For a contractor that builds parts for them. -Original Message- From: Robert Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 3:49 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Falcon heavy For SpaceX? On 2/6/18 2:38 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: No, he works on the engine side of things. -Original

Re: [AFMUG] OT Falcon heavy

No, he works on the engine side of things. -Original Message- From: Robert Andrews Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 3:35 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Falcon heavy Is his name one of the 6K names on the doormat? On 02/06/2018 02:29 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Great

[AFMUG] OT Falcon heavy

Great day for spaceflight. They should have played rocket man when the fairing separated and the car became visible. Great day for my son too who has his fingerprints inside the spacecraft.

Re: [AFMUG] OT Porn ..... (filtering)

When my kids were teenagers we had a computer room that had no door and was open to the TV room. High traffic area. We had 8 kids so lots of people, lots of eyes. I still referred to the computer room as the masturbatorium much to their chagrin. From: Nate Burke Sent: Tuesday, February

Re: [AFMUG] blocking

I block fake news... -Original Message- From: Bill Prince Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 10:17 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] blocking My thoughts exactly. Who exactly defines what is acceptable and what is not? Jeff Sessions? Howard Dean? Ted Cruz? Sean Hannity? Frederic

Re: [AFMUG] blocking

Wish someone would do that for me. From: Bill Prince Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 10:21 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] blocking Similar here, but the opposite. "Bad stuff" comes up on whatever we are watching, and I have to put my hand over her eyes and sing something pleasant

Re: [AFMUG] Is this a good time to get in Bitcoin ?????

Yeah, I would rather buy new stickers for my HDD. From: Andreas Wiatowski Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 10:14 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Is this a good time to get in Bitcoin ? Everything is too volatile…. Unless you have money to burn or are a gambling person, probably

[AFMUG] OT Porn ..... (filtering)

Based on all your comments (thank you), I sent the following to the legislative working group: (You guys helped me look smarter than I am ). Some random thoughts. If you are going to an HTTPS site, it is all encrypted. If you are attempting to analyze a flow of traffic HTTPS traffic looks

Re: [AFMUG] blocking

I couldn’t do it. I even block my eyes during some movies because I don’t want any more bad images in the brain. My wife thinks I am being silly. I do it on tv shows that are showing real dead folk too. Something sacrilegious about broadcasting the half nude body of some young girl that was

Re: [AFMUG] blocking

I made that point during a legislative conference call. Ping has a payload area. Ping me baby, ping me so goood! From: Adam Moffett Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 9:24 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] blocking I bet we could embed porn in the data portion of ICMP echo requests.

Re: [AFMUG] blocking

And then what do you allow? Bare shoulders? Saying crap or fudge? Curtains blowing in the breeze. -Original Message- From: Seth Mattinen Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 9:24 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] blocking On 2/6/18 8:20 AM, Christopher Tyler wrote: The great

Re: [AFMUG] blocking

The proposed solution is that any ISP over 500 customers has to provide some kind of blocking technology to prevent harm to minors. And it cannot be a 3rd party solution. I want to come up with an exhaustive list of all the potential ways minors can select harmful things on the internet.

[AFMUG] blocking

I have some proposed legislation I am facing about porn blocking again. But they are not defining the type of service. It is one thing to block web traffic, but how about netflix or twitter or skype or.. I want to play defense here and force the lawmakers to define exactly what we need

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Movie Review (moviepass)

wife suggested we go watch dunkirk as it returned to theatres in huntsville but we never made it back up there - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, February 5, 2018 11:01 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Movie Review (moviepass) I really en

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Movie Review (moviepass)

I really enjoyed The Darkest Hour. Then I watched Dunkirk on Amazon. Glad I did not pay for Dunkirk at the theater and glad I got to watch The Darkest Hour first so I could know what was going on. From: CBB - Jay Fuller Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2018 9:57 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject:

Re: [AFMUG] OT Moviepass

Yes From: CBB - Jay Fuller Sent: Friday, February 2, 2018 3:21 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Moviepass My app is not pulling any theaters today is yours? Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: Subject: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] IPv6

Yes There is really no extra work or expense involved in Dual Stack. Just turn it on and let the customers use what they will use. You have to accommodate V4 somehow. We are going to NAT everything in the V4 world to keep our continuing investment in IPs where it is at. 464xlat

[AFMUG] OT Moviepass

https://www.wired.com/story/moviepass-second-act/

Re: [AFMUG] Ceiling mount AP with best range?

I am getting good omni coverage. Been a while since I looked inside one. From: Eric Muehleisen Sent: Friday, February 2, 2018 1:46 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ceiling mount AP with best range? Chuck, If you tear apart a 844 you'll notice that the antenna elements don't seem

Re: [AFMUG] Ceiling mount AP with best range?

I use a single Calix 844 to cover a larger area without issue. 3 floors. Solid sheets of aluminum between the floors as part of my radiant heating system. -Original Message- From: Bill Prince Sent: Friday, February 2, 2018 10:01 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ceiling mount

Re: [AFMUG] Ceiling mount AP with best range?

Replied to the wrong thread. That was supposed to be in response to: “Is the list still alive?” Timing is a bit off today I guess... From: ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Friday, February 2, 2018 9:56 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ceiling mount AP with best range? I QUIT! From: Adam

Re: [AFMUG] Ceiling mount AP with best range?

I QUIT! From: Adam Moffett Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2018 3:17 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ceiling mount AP with best range? Nobody's saying you're wrong, but aren't you kind of overbuilding your home WiFi? -- Original Message -- From: "Josh Reynolds"

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] 450m power

Speaking for myself here, I don’t really make money by building commodity items. Switches are so low cost, integrating it into the system would be preferable than spinning one from the ground up. Not only do you have a chip set that is arguably somewhat obsolete as soon as it is released

Re: [AFMUG] USB over IP

Nope https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYAhlz7rnPU From: Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2018 11:17 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] USB over IP Faisal wins again. AirConsole is the right answer. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337

Re: [AFMUG] USB over IP

Is USB balanced? From: Forrest Christian (List Account) Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2018 12:51 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] USB over IP There are also quite a few USB to CAT5 'extenders' which will allow you to use CAT5 to extend the USB cable up to a few hundred feet On Thu, Feb 1,

Re: [AFMUG] USB over IP

How about connecting a Raspberry PI to the generator and accessing it via IP? -Original Message- From: Nate Burke Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2018 8:22 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] USB over IP I have a generator control board that is interfaced via USB, it sits about 50' away

Re: [AFMUG] Dc plant conversion

Unless your batteries are really stoned. -Original Message- From: Seth Mattinen Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 5:20 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Dc plant conversion On 1/31/18 15:44, Josh Baird wrote: Do NOT use the SD series. Sager is a reputable supplier! The

Re: [AFMUG] Cellular One approach to WISP

Well, the rest of the cool kids will be there. From: Brian Webster Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 3:42 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cellular One approach to WISP I won’t be there. Thank You, Brian Webster 214 Eggleston Hill Rd. Cooperstown, NY 13326 (607) 643-4055 Office

Re: [AFMUG] Cellular One approach to WISP

S From: Adam Moffett Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 1:21 PM To: af@afmug.com ; af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cellular One approach to WISP Or did you mean to say "Secret Society"? -- Original Message -- From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: 1/30/2018 3:03:52 PM

Re: [AFMUG] Cellular One approach to WISP

The start of another great oligopoly! From: CBB - Jay Fuller Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 12:57 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cellular One approach to WISP I would attend Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: "Gino A. Villarini"

Re: [AFMUG] Ford Transit Connect versus E150

Our oldest is about 6 years old with 50K miles on it. Running fine. From: Jason McKemie Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 12:02 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ford Transit Connect versus E150 Sorry, I was thinking Transit, not Transit Connect - that's a car. On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at

Re: [AFMUG] Ford Transit Connect versus E150

I’ll check. From: Rory Conaway Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 8:32 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ford Transit Connect versus E150 How many miles do you have on them? Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 7:59

Re: [AFMUG] Vehicle Lease

I like leases. My wife likes purchases. Purchases are OK for used equipment. I prefer to lease vehicles. On large new equipment, lease to own is my preferred method of purchase. From: Rory Conaway Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 8:32 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Vehicle Lease

Re: [AFMUG] Ford Transit Connect versus E150

Eagle Mountain. Yeah, flat country mostly. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 8:13 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ford Transit Connect versus E150 In SLC? -- Original Message -- From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent

Re: [AFMUG] Ford Transit Connect versus E150

I have been running them for about 4 years without issues. From: Lewis Bergman Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 1:48 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ford Transit Connect versus E150 I had one and got rid of it after 50,000 miles. It just wouldn't go where we needed it. It was very

Re: [AFMUG] Smart Electric Submeter

Oh, you don’t want to read the meter, you want usage on your portion. Regular meters are cheap. And webcams are cheap too. I think I would just use a regular meter.

Re: [AFMUG] Smart Electric Submeter

Web cam. From: can...@believewireless.net Sent: Monday, January 29, 2018 1:32 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Smart Electric Submeter We have a site looking to see what our electrical usage is each month. Do anyone know an affordable submeter that will give monthly reports?

[AFMUG] GPS Unavailable

Again http://www.ubergizmo.com/2018/01/gps-disruption-during-usaf-jamming-tests/

Re: [AFMUG] OT: very high pps ddos attack

Speaking of attacks, Friday, for the second time I had a huge takeover of my asterisk system flooding the network with calls from somewhere. Second time asterisk has been compromised in my shop. From: Zach Underwood Sent: Monday, January 29, 2018 10:52 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] OT Resistor VS Diode in Relay

Diodes on relays are to shunt the inductive kickback. Sometimes the diode is on the relay, sometimes on the controlling PCB. But when you kill the current to a relay coil that infinite voltage from the collapsing field needs to go somewhere. Without the diode it generally blows out the

Re: [AFMUG] Failover / Recovery Time Testing?

Ping something that gives you <1mS pings then fail the circuit over and see what the ping time is on the next ping. From: Christopher Gray Sent: Monday, January 29, 2018 8:06 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Failover / Recovery Time Testing? I want to use a tool that will time the

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