Re: [AFMUG] Billing system survey rehash

2016-09-28 Thread Bill Prince
Might just be that Simon had a pretty impressive salary. IDK,JS bp On 9/27/2016 9:27 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: personal thoughts?

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2016-09-27 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
yes. yes he is. - Original Message - From: That One Guy /sarcasm To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 11:30 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Billing system survey rehash They also may have learned a valuable lesson about eggs and baskets. Its definetly cheaper

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2016-09-27 Thread Ken Hohhof
approach for a mature product that needs bug fixes and incremental improvements. Just be happy they didn’t offshore it. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul Stewart Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 12:14 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Billing system survey

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2016-09-27 Thread Paul Stewart
> - how often is one departing employee replaced by 3 or 4 people? > > Now lets think about what that says... > >> - Original Message - >> From: Jeremy <mailto:jeremysmi...@gmail.com> >> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> >> Sent:

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2016-09-27 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
nal thoughts? They had the revenue before simon/jacob moved on. > They just choose to pocket it... > > > - Original Message - > *From:* ch...@wbmfg.com > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 27, 2016 11:12 AM > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Billing system survey rehas

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2016-09-27 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
personal thoughts? They had the revenue before simon/jacob moved on. They just choose to pocket it... - Original Message - From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 11:12 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Billing system survey rehash Gotta have

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2016-09-27 Thread chuck
like that. Someone should send them a copy of “The Mythical Man-Month”. From: CBB - Jay Fuller Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 9:54 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Billing system survey rehash Just now reading this thread but I think powercode went from like 9 employees (two

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2016-09-27 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
r 4 people? Now lets think about what that says... - Original Message - From: Jeremy To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Billing system survey rehash Simon is awesome, and Sonar seems to be developing into a great platform.

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2016-09-26 Thread Mark - Myakka Technologies
Thornton SJ> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 10:04 AM SJ> To: af@afmug.com SJ> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Billing system survey rehash SJ> ᅵ SJ> I take some issue with this characterization of Platypus.ᅵ SJ> While we have never been the flashiest or anywhere close to the SJ

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2016-09-26 Thread Chuck McCown
Never had a problem with Plat at Beehive that I recall. From: Wireless Administrator Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 12:17 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Billing system survey rehash +1 for Platypus. I feel Justin has provided a VERY fair assessment of their product. We’ve

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2016-09-26 Thread Wireless Administrator
] On Behalf Of Justin Thornton Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 12:04 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Billing system survey rehash I take some issue with this characterization of Platypus. While we have never been the flashiest or anywhere close to the best at marketing, Platypus has

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2016-09-26 Thread Sterling Jacobson
of those things. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Justin Thornton Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 10:04 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Billing system survey rehash I take some issue with this characterization of Platypus. While we have never been the flashiest

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2016-09-24 Thread Simon Westlake
Ivan, you want to tackle this one? On 9/24/2016 5:36 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote: I didn't see the "how big of assholes are they" column. That would be really helpful. But otherwise a good comparison. On Sat, Sep 24, 2016, 4:48 PM Simon Westlake wrote: Ivan,

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2016-09-16 Thread Tim Reichhart
too bad that netbox cant be switched to mysql because iwisp.gr is planning on putting phpipam in there billing/monitoring software. -Original Message- From: "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> To: af@afmug.com Date: 09/16/16 01:44 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Billi

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2016-09-16 Thread Josh Reynolds
I liked netbox, but it was still pre-release when I played with it. They were the talk of /r/networking for awhile. On Sep 16, 2016 10:51 AM, "Simon Westlake" wrote: > Check out https://github.com/digitalocean/netbox > > On 9/16/2016 10:49 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:

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2016-09-16 Thread Josh Reynolds
Uh since when? They just did a release in June. On Sep 16, 2016 10:49 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" wrote: > phpipam isnt developed anymore > I have an idle racktables server ready for production, its ugly/sexy and > has everything I want except that its got a learning

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2016-09-16 Thread Cassidy B. Larson
phpipam is developed still. I see plenty of commits this month: https://github.com/phpipam/phpipam It’s just slowed down a bit for actual releases. > On Sep 16, 2016, at 9:49 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm > wrote: > > phpipam isnt developed anymore > I have an idle

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2016-09-16 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
fied, Cisco CCNA > > > > For Wireless Hardware/Routers visit www.linktechs.net > > RF Mapping: www.towercoverage.com > > Office: 314-735-0270 > > dmburg...@linktechs.net > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *TJ Trout > *Sent:* Friday, Se

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2016-09-16 Thread Chuck McCown
: Friday, September 16, 2016 9:48 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Billing system survey rehash My opinion, yes. Very much so. I got my complaints fixed sooner. You can also see their public git commits - https://powercode.com/work.php Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937

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2016-09-16 Thread Dennis Burgess
2:51 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Billing system survey rehash Could I trouble you all for a quick survey / recommendation on billing systems? I've been looking at; Power code ( seems like too many red flags with this company) Platypus ( good price, but I don't want to become a dev just to b

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2016-09-16 Thread Josh Luthman
Couldn't have said it better myself. I'd jump ship off Powercode in a heart beat if there was a reason to and something to go to, but I just don't see that happening in reality. Even if an alternative was completely free, one mistake could cost me more money than what Powercode costs for a year

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2016-09-16 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Simon is a rockstar. he did alot to move powercode forward and got its momentum up with a good trajectory, and seemed to have built his exit into it without setting it on fire before he left On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 10:55 AM, Jeremy wrote: > Simon is awesome, and Sonar

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2016-09-16 Thread Simon Westlake
Check out https://github.com/digitalocean/netbox On 9/16/2016 10:49 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: phpipam isnt developed anymore I have an idle racktables server ready for production, its ugly/sexy and has everything I want except that its got a learning curve I havent sobered up enough to

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2016-09-16 Thread Jeremy
Simon is awesome, and Sonar seems to be developing into a great platform. However, I agree with Josh. Powercode has definitely improved since he left. Issues are quicker to get resolved, and tickets are responded to more promptly. I doubt any of this was the fault of Simon being the lead

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2016-09-16 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
phpipam isnt developed anymore I have an idle racktables server ready for production, its ugly/sexy and has everything I want except that its got a learning curve I havent sobered up enough to get a full grasp on, but its got all the documentory and reporting features I want, would love it if

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2016-09-16 Thread Josh Luthman
* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Billing system survey rehash > > We use Powercode, they ebb and flow. Other than simon who escaped by the > skin of his teeth after murdering the guy before him I think they have > gladiator fights for the lead role because every time a new lead co

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2016-09-16 Thread Chuck McCown
Powercode without Simon is like a castrated bull. Looks like a bull but can it get the job done as things change into the future? From: That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 9:39 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Billing system survey rehash We use Powercode, they ebb

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2016-09-16 Thread Josh Reynolds
Check out phpipam On Sep 16, 2016 10:39 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" wrote: > We use Powercode, they ebb and flow. Other than simon who escaped by the > skin of his teeth after murdering the guy before him I think they have > gladiator fights for the lead role because

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2016-09-16 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
We use Powercode, they ebb and flow. Other than simon who escaped by the skin of his teeth after murdering the guy before him I think they have gladiator fights for the lead role because every time a new lead comes in the last one disappears off the face of the earth. I imagine being in the office

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2016-09-16 Thread Chuck McCown
You know the developer of Sonar, cannot go wrong with him. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 5:46 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Billing system survey rehash Currently there's an in-house system here that dates back to dialup days, so I've been keeping an eye

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2016-09-16 Thread Vlad Sedov
We've been running Freeside for the last 10 years. It takes a bit of perl and linux knowledge to get it running (or just download the VM), but hey, what do you want for nothing? Feature-wise, freeside is on par with the big boys these days.. Can't think of anything it doesn't have that an ISP

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2016-09-16 Thread Robbie Wright
u can also check out Iwisp.gr that is what I am using. -- -Original Message- From: "Cassidy B. Larson" <c...@infowest.com> To: af@afmug.com Date: 09/16/16 10:30 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Billing system survey rehash We have been using Platypus f

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2016-09-16 Thread Tim Reichhart
You can also check out Iwisp.gr that is what I am using. -Original Message- From: "Cassidy B. Larson" <c...@infowest.com> To: af@afmug.com Date: 09/16/16 10:30 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Billing system survey rehash We have been using Platypus for the past 16 years.  It has

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2016-09-16 Thread Cassidy B. Larson
We have been using Platypus for the past 16 years. It hasn’t changed much in all that time. Client is still windows-only based. Still runs on SQL server. There’s an API exposed now, but it’s still clunky. I don’t want to run a VM just for Platypus! Give me a web client! We’ve wanted to

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2016-09-16 Thread Jeremy
I have been using Powercode since it was PowerNOC (even before it was JabNOC). It has come a LONG ways since then! I am mostly happy and would definitely recommend it. It is hard for me to imagine moving to anything else, having done multiple migrations. On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 7:01 AM, Simon

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2016-09-16 Thread Simon Westlake
There's a couple of others that are mostly billing focused (BillMax, Freeside) that are probably similar in functionality to Platypus (although, I will confess, I am not intimately familiar with them, so they could have some differences.) I *think* Swiftfox has stopped bringing on new

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2016-09-16 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
Good list. I'd add Azotel to it also. Jeff Broadwick ConVergence Technologies, Inc. 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@converge-tech.com > On Sep 16, 2016, at 1:50 AM, TJ Trout wrote: > > Could I trouble you all for a quick survey / recommendation on billing >

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2016-09-16 Thread Josh Luthman
ngs out there. > > > -- Original Message -- > From: "TJ Trout" <t...@voltbb.com> > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: 9/16/2016 1:50:54 AM > Subject: [AFMUG] Billing system survey rehash > > > Could I trouble you all for a quick survey / recommendation on bill

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2016-09-16 Thread Adam Moffett
there. -- Original Message -- From: "TJ Trout" <t...@voltbb.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: 9/16/2016 1:50:54 AM Subject: [AFMUG] Billing system survey rehash Could I trouble you all for a quick survey / recommendation on billing systems? I've been looking at; Power code ( see

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2016-09-16 Thread Jason Wilson
Visp On Sep 15, 2016 10:54 PM, "Josh Reynolds" wrote: > Sonar. +1 > > On Sep 16, 2016 12:50 AM, "TJ Trout" wrote: > >> Could I trouble you all for a quick survey / recommendation on billing >> systems? >> >> I've been looking at; >> >> Power code ( seems

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2016-09-15 Thread Josh Reynolds
Sonar. +1 On Sep 16, 2016 12:50 AM, "TJ Trout" wrote: > Could I trouble you all for a quick survey / recommendation on billing > systems? > > I've been looking at; > > Power code ( seems like too many red flags with this company) > > Platypus ( good price, but I don't want to

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2016-09-15 Thread TJ Trout
Could I trouble you all for a quick survey / recommendation on billing systems? I've been looking at; Power code ( seems like too many red flags with this company) Platypus ( good price, but I don't want to become a dev just to bill my customers) Visp seems like a decent option? Wisp Mon?