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Might just be that Simon had a pretty impressive salary. IDK,JS bp On 9/27/2016 9:27 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: personal thoughts?

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yes. yes he is. - Original Message - From: That One Guy /sarcasm To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 11:30 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Billing system survey rehash They also may have learned a valuable lesson about eggs and baskets. Its definetly cheaper

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approach for a mature product that needs bug fixes and incremental improvements. Just be happy they didn’t offshore it. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul Stewart Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 12:14 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Billing system survey

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> - how often is one departing employee replaced by 3 or 4 people? > > Now lets think about what that says... > >> - Original Message - >> From: Jeremy <mailto:jeremysmi...@gmail.com> >> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> >> Sent:

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nal thoughts? They had the revenue before simon/jacob moved on. > They just choose to pocket it... > > > - Original Message - > *From:* ch...@wbmfg.com > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 27, 2016 11:12 AM > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Billing system survey rehas

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personal thoughts? They had the revenue before simon/jacob moved on. They just choose to pocket it... - Original Message - From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 11:12 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Billing system survey rehash Gotta have

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like that. Someone should send them a copy of “The Mythical Man-Month”. From: CBB - Jay Fuller Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 9:54 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Billing system survey rehash Just now reading this thread but I think powercode went from like 9 employees (two

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r 4 people? Now lets think about what that says... - Original Message - From: Jeremy To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Billing system survey rehash Simon is awesome, and Sonar seems to be developing into a great platform.

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Thornton SJ> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 10:04 AM SJ> To: af@afmug.com SJ> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Billing system survey rehash SJ> ￜ SJ> I take some issue with this characterization of Platypus.ￜ SJ> While we have never been the flashiest or anywhere close to the SJ

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Never had a problem with Plat at Beehive that I recall. From: Wireless Administrator Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 12:17 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Billing system survey rehash +1 for Platypus. I feel Justin has provided a VERY fair assessment of their product. We’ve

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] On Behalf Of Justin Thornton Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 12:04 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Billing system survey rehash I take some issue with this characterization of Platypus. While we have never been the flashiest or anywhere close to the best at marketing, Platypus has

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of those things. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Justin Thornton Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 10:04 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Billing system survey rehash I take some issue with this characterization of Platypus. While we have never been the flashiest

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Ivan, you want to tackle this one? On 9/24/2016 5:36 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote: I didn't see the "how big of assholes are they" column. That would be really helpful. But otherwise a good comparison. On Sat, Sep 24, 2016, 4:48 PM Simon Westlake wrote: Ivan,

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too bad that netbox cant be switched to mysql because iwisp.gr is planning on putting phpipam in there billing/monitoring software. -Original Message- From: "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> To: af@afmug.com Date: 09/16/16 01:44 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Billi

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I liked netbox, but it was still pre-release when I played with it. They were the talk of /r/networking for awhile. On Sep 16, 2016 10:51 AM, "Simon Westlake" wrote: > Check out https://github.com/digitalocean/netbox > > On 9/16/2016 10:49 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:

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Uh since when? They just did a release in June. On Sep 16, 2016 10:49 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" wrote: > phpipam isnt developed anymore > I have an idle racktables server ready for production, its ugly/sexy and > has everything I want except that its got a learning

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phpipam is developed still. I see plenty of commits this month: https://github.com/phpipam/phpipam It’s just slowed down a bit for actual releases. > On Sep 16, 2016, at 9:49 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm > wrote: > > phpipam isnt developed anymore > I have an idle

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The WISPmans creed: This is my Billing System. There are many like it, but this one is all mine. My Billing System is my best friend. It is my life. I must master it as I must master my life. Without me, my Billing System is useless. Without my Billing system, I am useless. I must bill my

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: Friday, September 16, 2016 9:48 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Billing system survey rehash My opinion, yes. Very much so. I got my complaints fixed sooner. You can also see their public git commits - https://powercode.com/work.php Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937

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I will give you the best answer. DO NOT RELY ON ANYONE. I.e. everyone has things that they need, then things they want. Every network is a bit different, and overall, when you look at all of these guys, you need to understand what you require and what you would like to have. Go through all

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Couldn't have said it better myself. I'd jump ship off Powercode in a heart beat if there was a reason to and something to go to, but I just don't see that happening in reality. Even if an alternative was completely free, one mistake could cost me more money than what Powercode costs for a year

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Simon is a rockstar. he did alot to move powercode forward and got its momentum up with a good trajectory, and seemed to have built his exit into it without setting it on fire before he left On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 10:55 AM, Jeremy wrote: > Simon is awesome, and Sonar

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Check out https://github.com/digitalocean/netbox On 9/16/2016 10:49 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: phpipam isnt developed anymore I have an idle racktables server ready for production, its ugly/sexy and has everything I want except that its got a learning curve I havent sobered up enough to

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Simon is awesome, and Sonar seems to be developing into a great platform. However, I agree with Josh. Powercode has definitely improved since he left. Issues are quicker to get resolved, and tickets are responded to more promptly. I doubt any of this was the fault of Simon being the lead

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phpipam isnt developed anymore I have an idle racktables server ready for production, its ugly/sexy and has everything I want except that its got a learning curve I havent sobered up enough to get a full grasp on, but its got all the documentory and reporting features I want, would love it if

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* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Billing system survey rehash > > We use Powercode, they ebb and flow. Other than simon who escaped by the > skin of his teeth after murdering the guy before him I think they have > gladiator fights for the lead role because every time a new lead co

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Powercode without Simon is like a castrated bull. Looks like a bull but can it get the job done as things change into the future? From: That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 9:39 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Billing system survey rehash We use Powercode, they ebb

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Check out phpipam On Sep 16, 2016 10:39 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" wrote: > We use Powercode, they ebb and flow. Other than simon who escaped by the > skin of his teeth after murdering the guy before him I think they have > gladiator fights for the lead role because

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We use Powercode, they ebb and flow. Other than simon who escaped by the skin of his teeth after murdering the guy before him I think they have gladiator fights for the lead role because every time a new lead comes in the last one disappears off the face of the earth. I imagine being in the office

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You know the developer of Sonar, cannot go wrong with him. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 5:46 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Billing system survey rehash Currently there's an in-house system here that dates back to dialup days, so I've been keeping an eye

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We've been running Freeside for the last 10 years. It takes a bit of perl and linux knowledge to get it running (or just download the VM), but hey, what do you want for nothing? Feature-wise, freeside is on par with the big boys these days.. Can't think of anything it doesn't have that an ISP

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u can also check out Iwisp.gr that is what I am using. -- -Original Message- From: "Cassidy B. Larson" <c...@infowest.com> To: af@afmug.com Date: 09/16/16 10:30 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Billing system survey rehash We have been using Platypus f

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You can also check out Iwisp.gr that is what I am using. -Original Message- From: "Cassidy B. Larson" <c...@infowest.com> To: af@afmug.com Date: 09/16/16 10:30 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Billing system survey rehash We have been using Platypus for the past 16 years.  It has

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We have been using Platypus for the past 16 years. It hasn’t changed much in all that time. Client is still windows-only based. Still runs on SQL server. There’s an API exposed now, but it’s still clunky. I don’t want to run a VM just for Platypus! Give me a web client! We’ve wanted to

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I have been using Powercode since it was PowerNOC (even before it was JabNOC). It has come a LONG ways since then! I am mostly happy and would definitely recommend it. It is hard for me to imagine moving to anything else, having done multiple migrations. On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 7:01 AM, Simon

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There's a couple of others that are mostly billing focused (BillMax, Freeside) that are probably similar in functionality to Platypus (although, I will confess, I am not intimately familiar with them, so they could have some differences.) I *think* Swiftfox has stopped bringing on new

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Good list. I'd add Azotel to it also. Jeff Broadwick ConVergence Technologies, Inc. 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@converge-tech.com > On Sep 16, 2016, at 1:50 AM, TJ Trout wrote: > > Could I trouble you all for a quick survey / recommendation on billing >

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Powercode. Of course the king has red flags. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sep 16, 2016 7:46 AM, "Adam Moffett" wrote: > Currently there's an in-house system here that dates back to dialup days, > so I've

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Currently there's an in-house system here that dates back to dialup days, so I've been keeping an eye on the same players as you are. Plat isn't as difficult as all that for billing. It has such an antique look and feel it seems like they are overdue for a rewrite of the front end. The only

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Visp On Sep 15, 2016 10:54 PM, "Josh Reynolds" wrote: > Sonar. +1 > > On Sep 16, 2016 12:50 AM, "TJ Trout" wrote: > >> Could I trouble you all for a quick survey / recommendation on billing >> systems? >> >> I've been looking at; >> >> Power code ( seems

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Sonar. +1 On Sep 16, 2016 12:50 AM, "TJ Trout" wrote: > Could I trouble you all for a quick survey / recommendation on billing > systems? > > I've been looking at; > > Power code ( seems like too many red flags with this company) > > Platypus ( good price, but I don't want to