Re: DIS: [Proto-proposal] space i guess?

2018-10-27 Thread Gaelan Steele
Feedback inline. I wrote most of the proposal feedback before reading other comments, so some of this may be duplicated. > On Oct 15, 2018, at 6:13 PM, ATMunn wrote: > > so basically this is super clunky and probably not going to work, but if > you think there's any hope for it then please say

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Treasuror] Weekly report: Delenda fuit

2018-10-27 Thread Gaelan Steele
Can you? I’ve been a player for a while. Gaelan > On Oct 27, 2018, at 8:02 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > Oh! And I award Gaelan a welcome package. > >> On Sat, 27 Oct 2018, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> >> >> >> I don't think it self-ratifies due to your report, but in case it >> does: CoE:

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I intend to win by apathy without objection AND I OBJECT

2018-10-25 Thread Gaelan Steele
o mislead. > > Since lying is prohibited, the rules "limit" its performance, so it is > regulated under R2125: >An action is regulated if: (1) the Rules limit, allow, enable, or > permit its performance; > > Maybe? > >> On Wed, 24 Oct 2018

Re: DIS: Dependent Action Proposal Adoption

2018-10-25 Thread Gaelan Steele
I had a proposal at some point (that got voted down, I don’t remember why off hand) that would allow a proposal to be resolved more quickly if >AI players had already voted FOR. Gaelan On Oct 24, 2018, at 9:31 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > Especially when pending is free, I think we have

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I intend to win by apathy without objection AND I OBJECT

2018-10-24 Thread Gaelan Steele
This raises an interesting question: can you get around No Faking by doing something that appears to do something, but due to a technicality, turns out to be unregulated? Would No Faking even cover that in the first place? If not, should it? Gaelan > On Oct 23, 2018, at 10:41 AM, Kerim Aydin

Re: DIS: Call for Patches

2018-04-13 Thread Gaelan Steele
I have a contract in place for exactly this purpose. Gaelan > On Apr 13, 2018, at 12:48 AM, Aris Merchant > wrote: > > Okay, I'm going to write up a patch proposal. I'll take any reasonably > uncontroversial patches, whether in typed up form or just with a

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Cartographor] Land Auctions for April week 2, part 2

2018-04-13 Thread Gaelan Steele
I bid 1 coin. Gaelan > On Apr 13, 2018, at 1:30 AM, Corona wrote: > > I bid 6 coins, and I act on Quazie's behalf to bid 6 coins. > > On Friday, April 13, 2018, Aris Merchant > wrote: > >> I bid 12 coins. >> >> -Aris >> >>

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: deputy-[Referee] Weekly Report

2018-04-13 Thread Gaelan Steele
Oh boy, I get to figure out ratification! Gaelan > On Apr 12, 2018, at 7:05 PM, Edward Murphy wrote: > > G. wrote: > >> GUESS WHAT: It's worse than that. There *is* no Referee's weekly report! >> There's no place I can find that puts together "referee" and "Report". > >

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Zombie auction results

2018-04-09 Thread Gaelan Steele
. Gaelan > On Apr 9, 2018, at 11:16 AM, Kerim Aydin <ke...@u.washington.edu> wrote: > > > >> On Mon, 9 Apr 2018, Gaelan Steele wrote: >> Is a timing scam an abuse of an office? Does acting on omd’s behalf change >> this? > > Thinking about thi

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Zombie auction results

2018-04-09 Thread Gaelan Steele
the act-on-behalf rules might have some holes (but > AFAICT, nothing here against the intent of those rules). > >> On Mon, 9 Apr 2018, Gaelan Steele wrote: >> Is a timing scam an abuse of an office? Does acting on omd’s behalf change >> this? >> >> Gael

DIS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Zombie auction results

2018-04-09 Thread Gaelan Steele
Is a timing scam an abuse of an office? Does acting on omd’s behalf change this? Gaelan > On Apr 9, 2018, at 10:52 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > The zombie auction has ended - here are the results. When each winning > bid is paid, I'll flip the appropriate master

DIS: Proto-Contract: Patch Puddle V3

2018-04-08 Thread Gaelan Steele
Here’s a new version of my proto-contract from a while ago. { If this contract has no coins, it accepts transfers of a single coin. If it has no papers, it accepts transfers of a single paper. This contract maintains a piece of state known as the Patch Puddle, containing a set of Patches each

DIS: Re: BUS: Blot warning - Corona and CuddleBeam

2018-04-08 Thread Gaelan Steele
Wait, when’d you become ADoP? I don’t see a deputization. Gaelan > On Apr 8, 2018, at 6:40 AM, ATMunn wrote: > > Oh man, it's been so long since I've been ADoP so I forget if I can do this > but if I can: > > I initiate an election for Referee, and become a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Land Auctions for April week 1

2018-04-07 Thread Gaelan Steele
>> >> On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 10:33 PM, Reuben Staley >> <reuben.sta...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> To the public forum this time. I really suck at this. >>> >>> On Thu, Apr 5, 2018, 23:33 Reuben Staley <reuben.sta...@gmail

Re: DIS: Proto: Formalized Precedent

2018-04-05 Thread Gaelan Steele
med appropriate, but could not, say, refuse to put any > annotations in the FLR. > > Again, thank you for the proposal. It was quite thought provoking. > > -Aris > > [1] My source for all of this is > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Practice_Statement > > On Tue, Apr 3

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: becoming a player

2018-04-03 Thread Gaelan Steele
Generally we sign messages with our preferred names. Gaelan > On Apr 3, 2018, at 8:59 AM, ⁨אורי פופקו⁩ <⁨ouri.pou...@gmail.com⁩> wrote: > > Thank you for dancing the dance of welcoming :> > I am very confused here as a new comer. > For instance - is your name Benjamin Schultz? Or Oscar Meyr? >

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: becoming a player

2018-04-03 Thread Gaelan Steele
Informally. That will do. Gaelan > On Apr 3, 2018, at 8:30 AM, ⁨אורי פופקו⁩ <⁨ouri.pou...@gmail.com⁩> wrote: > > I prefer it to be Ouri. How do I set it? > > On Tue, 3 Apr 2018, 18:28 Corona, wrote: > >> Is אורי פופקו your player name? >> >> On Tue, Apr 3, 2018

DIS: Proto: Formalized Precedent

2018-04-03 Thread Gaelan Steele
Proto: A Clarification is a type of instrument that always has 0.1 power. A clarification may only clarify existing rules, and may not have any functionality not already provided by a reasonably plausible interpretation of a rules; any other functionality is INEFFECTIVE. [Maybe: remove this

DIS: Re: OFF: Land Auctions for April week 1

2018-04-03 Thread Gaelan Steele
I bid 3 on auctions 4 and 5 > On Apr 2, 2018, at 3:32 PM, Reuben Staley wrote: > > Land auctions now work. Hooray. > > There are currently 6 public, unpreserved, non-aether land units in > existence. As the Cartographor, I am to choose 5 of them to be auctioned off. >

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] the Great Zombie Auction for April

2018-04-02 Thread Gaelan Steele
I bid 1 coin as well. Gaelan > On Apr 2, 2018, at 11:14 AM, Kenyon Prater wrote: > > I bid one coin in this auction as well. > >> On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 10:46 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> >> >> >>> On Mon, 2 Apr 2018, Kerim Aydin wrote: >>> *

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Treasuror] Currency Balances

2018-04-02 Thread Gaelan Steele
g about papers submitted to a conference or > journal, not for mere physical sheets. > > -Aris > >> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 7:08 PM Gaelan Steele <g...@canishe.com> wrote: >> >> Papers are already defined as plural in the rules, so probably don’t need >> th

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Treasuror] Currency Balances

2018-04-01 Thread Gaelan Steele
Papers are already defined as plural in the rules, so probably don’t need the count noun. As for the rest, they make sense (although I’m not sure how often we’d actually need them—“I transfer 3 fabric” works fine) Gaelan > On Apr 1, 2018, at 6:07 PM, Aris Merchant >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Monthly deregistration intents and zombifications

2018-04-01 Thread Gaelan Steele
Wait, what does “attempt” mean? Can the Registrar just say “I deregister each of these players by announcement”? It doesn’t work, but it’s arguably an intent. Gaelan > On Apr 1, 2018, at 5:42 PM, Ørjan Johansen wrote: > > On Sun, 1 Apr 2018, Kerim Aydin wrote: > >> I

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Learn from our friends

2018-04-01 Thread Gaelan Steele
Now that April Fools Day is over (in UTC, anyway), I would like to make clear that I have no intention of voting for this proposal. The caution probably warranted, however. Gaelan > On Apr 1, 2018, at 2:59 PM, Kerim Aydin <ke...@u.washington.edu> wrote: > > > > On Su

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Nabbing the stuffs part 2

2018-04-01 Thread Gaelan Steele
Does anyone know where Aris and CB were when this happened? I’m trying to update my report, but the cartogrophor’s report hasn’t been updated in a long time. Gaelan > On Mar 19, 2018, at 7:37 AM, Cuddle Beam wrote: > > I take everything from where I'm standing. > > On

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposal 8031

2018-03-29 Thread Gaelan Steele
gt;>> I change my vote on 8031 to: >>> If there are 4 or more valid unconditional FOR ballots cast on 8031 at >>> the end of the voting period, FOR. Otherwise AGAINST. >>> >>> On Tue, 27 Mar 2018, Gaelan Steele wrote: >>>> I vote conditionally: >

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Metareport

2018-03-19 Thread Gaelan Steele
I’m a bit swamped with schoolwork at the moment, but I’ll deputize if I get a chance. Gaelan > On Mar 19, 2018, at 10:20 AM, Aris Merchant > wrote: > > We really need a Rulekeepor. It's probably the most important office on > that list. Gaelan, are you

Re: DIS: PAoaM Patch v3

2018-03-18 Thread Gaelan Steele
rrent? I don't see that included in here. My > understanding is that the Cartographor doesn't exist which probably makes > land auctions and maybe all movement on the map broken? Or are we starting > with new land auctions and such after this passes? > > On Sun, Mar 18,

Re: DIS: PAoaM Patch v3

2018-03-18 Thread Gaelan Steele
> On Mar 18, 2018, at 3:34 PM, Aris Merchant > wrote: > > Information about a Convergence (but not > the resulting state) is inherently uncertain and is thus excluded from > self-ratification.” Do we need to specify that the history leading up to the

Re: DIS: Draft: PAoaM Patch v2

2018-03-18 Thread Gaelan Steele
How about a rule to this effect: “A Convergence is a change to the gamestate designed to resolve ambiguity in the current state. [Maybe: Causing a change to the gamestate to be considered a Convergence is protected at power 3. A player may cause a gamestate change to be considered a Convergence

Re: DIS: Draft: PAoaM Patch v2

2018-03-18 Thread Gaelan Steele
IIRC proposals are instruments with power, and that power is never revoked. Unfortunately, I don’t think a temporary rule would do the trick—unless we ratified the history of the PAoaM rules (something I’d rather not do), every future FLR might be technically “incorrect” unless we figured out

Re: DIS: Draft: PAoaM Patch v2

2018-03-18 Thread Gaelan Steele
Why the “rounds” of cleanup? The “END CLEANUP” thing was to avoid the need to figure out what the “actual” game state was for the purposes of the FLR history, while still having the actual text changes in this proposal be annotated properly. Other than that, looks good. Thanks for picking

Re: DIS: PAoaM Patch status

2018-03-17 Thread Gaelan Steele
Of course, March’s already self-ratified. But yes, this does urgently need to be cleaned up. Gaelan > On Mar 17, 2018, at 10:53 AM, Kerim Aydin <ke...@u.washington.edu> wrote: > > > > All it takes is one CoE to stop that. > >> On Sat, 17 Mar 2018, Ga

Re: DIS: PAoaM Patch status

2018-03-17 Thread Gaelan Steele
FYI, I’m pretending everything (including paydays) is working. Gaelan > On Mar 17, 2018, at 9:39 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > Personally I'd rather limp along imperfectly than wait for the perfect > and miss the April payday. So absolutely have a go but I'm fine

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Currency repairs?

2018-03-16 Thread Gaelan Steele
Always 1. Gaelan > On Mar 16, 2018, at 10:06 AM, ATMunn wrote: > > I pend that proposal with whatever the cost in paper is. > > (probably too vague to work, but oh well :P) > > On 3/16/2018 1:01 PM, Reuben Staley wrote: >> It's in the proposal pool, unpended. Someone

DIS: Re: OFF: Land auctions

2018-03-07 Thread Gaelan Steele
Do these coins get destroyed or go to Agora? > On Mar 7, 2018, at 8:46 PM, Reuben Staley wrote: > > If I am able to resolve the land auctions started on February 24th, I attempt > to do so: > > AUCTION 1 for the land unit (-1, -2): > > Player Amount >

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: {"ADoP":"data"}

2018-03-07 Thread Gaelan Steele
for on someone else - if there's a problem it's with the system not the >player in this case. > > >> On Wed, 7 Mar 2018, Gaelan Steele wrote: >> Oh, and also: notice of Honour. >> >> +1 to Murphy for making my job a bit easier. >> -1 to CB for creati

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Treasuror] Currency Balances

2018-03-07 Thread Gaelan Steele
il.com> wrote: > > It doesn't line up to me... > > Do you mean like, graphically lining up or? > >> On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 9:03 AM, Ørjan Johansen <oer...@nvg.ntnu.no> wrote: >>

DIS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Monthly housekeeping

2018-03-06 Thread Gaelan Steele
I support the intents for o, Quazie, and PSS. Gaelan > On Mar 6, 2018, at 4:23 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > > I flip o's master switch to Agora. > I flip pokes' master switch to Agora. > > > I intend to deregister, with 3 Agoran Consent, each of: > omd, o,

Re: DIS: [Promotor] Non-Draft

2018-03-04 Thread Gaelan Steele
pp2 is pended. Gaelan > On Mar 4, 2018, at 12:28 AM, Aris Merchant > wrote: > > I'm too tired to prepare a full draft right now, but I'm worried I'm > missing something in all the noise. It is my belief that the proposals > in existence are the following:

Re: DIS: Grey Land and the Fountain

2018-03-03 Thread Gaelan Steele
feandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I'm happy to admit that I may have been wrong on this one. However, >> extensibility is important. I was hoping we could do it in a short >> paragraph, not a whole rule. What do you guys think? >> >> -Aris >> >>&g

Re: DIS: Grey Land and the Fountain

2018-03-02 Thread Gaelan Steele
Sorry I forgot to bring this up earlier, but I think unless we have a use case for facilities with multiple types, we should just have a simple production/processing/{monument,other} option. This is well-written, but until we need it I think it would be better to avoid the complexity. Gaelan

Re: DIS: proto: patent award codification

2018-03-01 Thread Gaelan Steele
ch may be awarded to any Player who has shown >great enthusiasm, persistence, or skill in the perpetrating >of scams. > I'd change "may be" to SHOULD here and add the "CAN with support level." > >> On Thu, 1 Mar 2018, Gaelan Steele wrot

Re: DIS: proto: patent award codification

2018-03-01 Thread Gaelan Steele
Probably want the criteria for each to be SHOULDs so that we don't have CFJs about just how brilliant a judgement was. I like the idea. Gaelan > On Mar 1, 2018, at 10:01 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > > We used to have more Patent Titles named in the rules, and

Re: DIS: Some minor reforms

2018-02-28 Thread Gaelan Steele
I disagree—many offices involve a lot of work, so it's only fair to reward it, and for a reward to be meaningful if needs to be relevant. It's not unfair; if you want piece of the pie, vacancies come up fairly frequently. Gaelan > On Feb 28, 2018, at 8:27 PM, Cuddle Beam

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Proposal: Ensure fair distribution of assets

2018-02-28 Thread Gaelan Steele
Wait, what? Why do we have more assets at the facilities? I thought this was weekly. Gaelan, a very confused Treasuror > On Feb 28, 2018, at 7:14 PM, Cuddle Beam wrote: > > I have to agree. The IRL time race is annoying. > > I take all resources at the Mines here and

DIS: Proto: Transactions

2018-02-28 Thread Gaelan Steele
Title: “Transactions” AI: not sure, help? Create a rule titled “Transactions” [power?] with the following text: { A set of actions to be performed is a transaction if it is specified as such by a rule with power [?] or greater, or the document or message describing the actions. If any action in

Re: DIS: Some minor reforms

2018-02-28 Thread Gaelan Steele
You have arbitor twice, but no treasuror. Gaelan > On Feb 28, 2018, at 12:03 PM, Reuben Staley wrote: > > Not that I'm in this for the fictional currency, but honestly, 3 coins a > month for all this recordkeeping is not enough. I'm not writing up any > ruletext yet,

Re: DIS: Proto: PAoaM Patch

2018-02-28 Thread Gaelan Steele
This doesn’t need to be 3.1, just 3. Oops. > On Feb 28, 2018, at 7:19 AM, Gaelan Steele <g...@canishe.com> wrote: > > Title: PAoaM Patch > AI: 3.1 > > — > > Remove the sentence "If the reenacting proposal provides new text for the > rule, the rule must h

DIS: Proto: PAoaM Patch

2018-02-28 Thread Gaelan Steele
Title: PAoaM Patch AI: 3.1 — Remove the sentence "If the reenacting proposal provides new text for the rule, the rule must have materially the same purpose as did the repealed version; otherwise, the attempt to reenact the rule is null and void.” from Rule 105 “Rule Changes.” If rule 2599 is

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: Feb 25 Land Auction and an Announcement.

2018-02-28 Thread Gaelan Steele
I bid 3 coins on auctions 2-5. Gaelan > On Feb 26, 2018, at 5:30 AM, Cuddle Beam wrote: > > I bid on each an amount equal to its current highest bid, plus one coin. > > On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 4:11 AM, Ørjan Johansen wrote: > >> Actually, your most

DIS: Online Treasuror's Report

2018-02-27 Thread Gaelan Steele
The Treasuror’s report is now online at https://agoranomic.org/Treasuror. In addition, if anyone wants it for automation, there is both a log.yaml (event log) and current.yaml (current state, generated from log) file in the GitHub repository. Gaelan

DIS: Re: BUS: punishment reform

2018-02-27 Thread Gaelan Steele
Comments inline > On Feb 27, 2018, at 2:52 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > > proto-proposal, the Lesson of the Weevils > > > > Create the following Rule, Weevils, power-2: > > Weevils are

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Feb 25 Land Auction and an Announcement.

2018-02-27 Thread Gaelan Steele
Actually, nobody has any corn yet, so this was ineffective anyway. Would still like feedback on the proto. Gaelan > On Feb 26, 2018, at 6:48 PM, Gaelan Steele <g...@canishe.com> wrote: > > Did we ever decide what happens with payments for failed actions? My vague > recoll

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Joining the game

2018-02-27 Thread Gaelan Steele
w much retroactive magic is going to help. I think we > need to go carefully over it, and then decide whether we need to start > over from scratch. It's looking like we may want to, what with land > auctions being broken and everything. Suggestions? > > -Aris > >> On Tue,

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Unofficial economic FAQ

2018-02-26 Thread Gaelan Steele
I already did so for everyone. Gaelan > On Feb 26, 2018, at 11:36 PM, Ned Strange wrote: > > Wonderful post, thanks Murphy. > > I claim a welcome package. > >> On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 4:26 PM, Edward Murphy wrote: >> Agora economic FAQ

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Feb 25 Land Auction and an Announcement.

2018-02-26 Thread Gaelan Steele
Did we ever decide what happens with payments for failed actions? My vague recollection was that “I spend one coin TO do x” refunds when X is ineffective, but “I spend one coin AND do x” doesn’t. Is this correct? Either way, proto: { Create a P3.1 rule titled Spending: { When the rules specify

Re: DIS: Proto: Nomicbots

2018-02-26 Thread Gaelan Steele
l publish a report within the first week of each month > with: > - The results of the Monthly Battle and their processing of it (and CAN and > SHALL do this manual processing). > - The Instructions, Name, Banner and owner of each Nomicbot. > - The Arenas and their Status. > - The Meri

Re: DIS: Proto: Nomicbots

2018-02-26 Thread Gaelan Steele
Bots live in a subgame—they can't vote on "real" proposals. Gaelan > On Feb 26, 2018, at 8:15 AM, Reuben Staley wrote: > > This proposal is full of holes. To list a few: > > Do bots use their creator's voting power or do they have their own? If the > former, these

Re: DIS: Proto: Nomicbots

2018-02-26 Thread Gaelan Steele
“Vote for all proposals which would benefit this bot” Love the basic idea, though. Just needs to be written out a little more clearly. Gaelan > On Feb 26, 2018, at 5:59 AM, Cuddle Beam wrote: > > Some way to use our resources for a "minigame". You can spend them to

DIS: Re: OFF: Feb 25 Land Auction and an Announcement.

2018-02-25 Thread Gaelan Steele
I bid a coin on each. > On Feb 25, 2018, at 11:24 AM, Reuben Staley wrote: > > This is your local Cartographor calling in to remind everyone that as > yesterday ended an Agoran week, Agora has created in possession of the > following facilities the following items: >

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 8008-8015 (fwd)

2018-02-24 Thread Gaelan Steele
RWOs can’t cause rule changes, which makes this challenging. Gaelan > On Feb 24, 2018, at 5:36 PM, Aris Merchant > wrote: > > Oh my. This is a nightmare, isn't it. Should we be RWOing something, or do > we need to urgently pass a fix proposal? > > -Aris >

DIS: Re: OFF: [Deputy Treasuror] Asset Balances

2018-02-24 Thread Gaelan Steele
> On Feb 24, 2018, at 1:05 AM, Gaelan Steele <g...@canishe.com> wrote: > > Name | Ore | Ston | Lumb | Appl | Cotn | Corn | Coin | Papr | Fabr > omd | 0 |5 |5 | 10 |0 |0 | 10 |3 |0 > > o | 0 |5 |

DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8016-8022

2018-02-24 Thread Gaelan Steele
> On Feb 23, 2018, at 9:41 PM, Aris Merchant > wrote: > > I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating the Agoran > Decision of whether to adopt it, and removing it from the proposal > pool. For this decision, the vote collector is the Assessor, the

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Rulekeepor] Corrections

2018-02-16 Thread Gaelan Steele
necessary since we are inconsistent with our capitalization habits. It > makes sense to standardize it. > >> On Feb 16, 2018 10:57, "Gaelan Steele" <g...@canishe.com> wrote: >> >> I feel like the capitalization of certain terms is part of the Agoran >&g

DIS: Re: OFF: [Rulekeepor] Corrections

2018-02-16 Thread Gaelan Steele
I feel like the capitalization of certain terms is part of the Agoran dialect, and that culture is something worth maintaining. I’m not objecting yet in case everyone disagrees with me, but I feel that it merits further discussion. Gaelan > On Feb 15, 2018, at 5:00 PM, Alexis Hunt

Re: DIS: Re: Proto-Contract: Micro-Proposals

2018-02-15 Thread Gaelan Steele
each week. - Added mechanism for amendment. > On Feb 14, 2018, at 9:58 PM, Kerim Aydin <ke...@u.washington.edu> wrote: > > On Wed, 14 Feb 2018, Gaelan Steele wrote: >> I disagree—just because a proposal provides the text of a document doesn’t >> mean that the docum

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: [Registrar] Zombie auctions for Quazie, 天火狐, and nichdel

2018-02-15 Thread Gaelan Steele
> >> On Thu, 15 Feb 2018, Gaelan Steele wrote: >> I resolve my intent to ratify without objection. CB’s and my >> non-real-integer bids should no longer exist. >> >> Gaelan >> >>> On Feb 15, 2018, at 9:54 AM, Kerim Aydin <ke..

Re: DIS: Re: Proto-Contract: Micro-Proposals

2018-02-14 Thread Gaelan Steele
l PROPOSAL is adopted, > . r106 first gives power to the whole proposal, including all of its > micro-proposals. > Then, if the proposal doesn't give power to a micro-proposal, that > micro-proposal > still has the power it got from r106 and still goes into effect. > >

Re: DIS: Re: Proto-Contract: Micro-Proposals

2018-02-14 Thread Gaelan Steele
nce they're basically a block of rule text that you get to > choose if you want to follow. > >> On Feb 14, 2018 21:46, "Gaelan Steele" <g...@canishe.com> wrote: >> >> Contract doesn’t give power. Contract obligates me to pend a proposal >>

DIS: Re: Proto-Contract: Micro-Proposals

2018-02-14 Thread Gaelan Steele
Df > On Feb 14, 2018, at 7:58 PM, Gaelan Steele <g...@canishe.com> wrote: > > This contract accepts shinies as long as it has fewer than ((Pend Cost) + 1) > shines. It accepts no other assets. > > This contract maintains a piece of state known as the Proposal Pud

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Confession

2018-02-13 Thread Gaelan Steele
I support. > On Feb 13, 2018, at 2:18 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > Not that there isn't a fascinating discussion about winning going on, but > I REALLY WOULD appreciate either support for the below, or some statement > from folks that they're not supporting on

Re: DIS: Proto: competitive victories

2018-02-13 Thread Gaelan Steele
ea in that regard is that each >>>> official method of winning can only be done by one person? Once >>>> someone's done it first the method's gone. >>>> Ribbons seem like a sensible exception to that given how long-term they >>>> are and that you "can't&qu

Re: DIS: Proto: competitive victories

2018-02-13 Thread Gaelan Steele
at regard is that each >>> official method of winning can only be done by one person? Once >>> someone's done it first the method's gone. >>> Ribbons seem like a sensible exception to that given how long-term they >>> are and that you "can't" get them as your

DIS: Proto: competitive victories

2018-02-13 Thread Gaelan Steele
Append to 2449 “winning the game”: When one or more players win the game: * Any intents to Declare Apathy by players who did not win are cancelled. * Two Medals of Honor in the possession of each player who did not win are destroyed. * The Tailor CAN and SHALL once and within a timely fashion

Re: DIS: Proto-CFJ: Agora is a Person

2018-02-12 Thread Gaelan Steele
Proto-gratuitous arguments: There are several issues with this argument. (s/thought/(thought or idea) throughout) Agora did not originate the thought of Agora. While Agora may embody that thought, the thought was originated by Michael Norrish. Freely originating thoughts means originating

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Fact-Checker's Guild

2018-02-11 Thread Gaelan Steele
bs* > >> On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 5:40 AM, Gaelan Steele <g...@canishe.com> wrote: >> >> I object. Consent requires 50-50, and unless you can convince someone else >> to support this, I’m safe. Besides, even if you get a co-conspirator, I’m >> automat

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Fact-Checker's Guild

2018-02-11 Thread Gaelan Steele
Oops—meant to say that consent requires 51%. > On Feb 11, 2018, at 8:40 PM, Gaelan Steele <g...@canishe.com> wrote: > > I object. Consent requires 50-50, and unless you can convince someone else to > support this, I’m safe. Besides, even if you get a co-conspirator, I’m >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Fact-Checker's Guild

2018-02-11 Thread Gaelan Steele
PM, Madeline <j...@iinet.net.au> wrote: > > Muphry's Law strikes again~ > > On 2018-02-12 14:45, Gaelan Steele wrote: >> In intend, without objection, to rename this guild to “The Fact-Checkers’ >> Guild”. >> >> This is embarrassing. >> >> Gaelan

DIS: Re: BUS: Fact-Checker's Guild

2018-02-11 Thread Gaelan Steele
In intend, without objection, to rename this guild to “The Fact-Checkers’ Guild”. This is embarrassing. Gaelan > On Feb 11, 2018, at 6:28 PM, Gaelan Steele <g...@canishe.com> wrote: > > I throw a shiny at Agora and create the following contract: > > { >

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8010-8014

2018-02-11 Thread Gaelan Steele
Mailman is mean And requires a password Use Mail-Archive (Please) Gaelan > On Feb 11, 2018, at 6:50 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > > On Sun, 11 Feb 2018, Aris Merchant wrote: >> I hereby distribute each listed proposal, > > I don't mean to fuss and I don't mean to

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Tailor] Ribbon Bar

2018-02-11 Thread Gaelan Steele
The list of changes may be a summary that is ignored ("if such a document can be divided into a summary section and a main section, where the only purpose of the summary section is to summarize information in the main section, and the main section is internally consistent, ratification of the

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Tailor] Ribbon Bar

2018-02-11 Thread Gaelan Steele
Actions have consequences, my friend. Gaelan > On Feb 11, 2018, at 5:36 PM, Madeline wrote: > > And why do you make it sound like I'm not going to be Tailor anymore... :(

DIS: Re: OFF: [Tailor] Ribbon Bar

2018-02-11 Thread Gaelan Steele
This report is dated 2017. Don’t believe that changes anything, but the future Tailor should probably fix it. Gaelan > On Feb 11, 2018, at 4:06 PM, Telnaior wrote: > > TAILOR'S RIBBON REPORT > -- > > Date of this report: 2017-02-12 > Date of last

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Confession

2018-02-11 Thread Gaelan Steele
This change, mind you, would make G win. Gaelan > On Feb 11, 2018, at 4:39 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > How about we get rid of black ribbons altogether I loathe them > (And am certainly not willing to make a rules exception for them). > > On Mon, 12 Feb 2018, Alex

DIS: Temporary HLR

2018-02-11 Thread Gaelan Steele
I’ve ported the HLR generation code to Haskell and submitted it as a PR to the AgoraNomic/Ruleset repository. In the time being, I’ve generated a copy of the HLR from the latest ruleset files; it is available at https://gaelan.keybase.pub/hlr.html . Gaelan

Re: DIS: Pledges?

2018-02-09 Thread Gaelan Steele
A player can “call in” a pledge with Agoran Consent (and explaining why they think it was broken). It is illegal to hold a called-in pledge. However, technically speaking, this has nothing to do with the text of the pledge. Gaelan > On Feb 9, 2018, at 8:01 PM, Cuddle Beam

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Re: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Zombie auctions for Quazie, 天火狐, and nichdel

2018-02-08 Thread Gaelan Steele
This made me laugh out loud. > On Feb 8, 2018, at 4:46 PM, Alex Smith <ais...@alumni.bham.ac.uk> wrote: > >> On Thu, 2018-02-08 at 16:34 -0800, Gaelan Steele wrote: >> Still leaves my bid of i. I’m kind of curious about the ruling about >> that, but I’m happy to (a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Re: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Zombie auctions for Quazie, 天火狐, and nichdel

2018-02-08 Thread Gaelan Steele
Still leaves my bid of i. I’m kind of curious about the ruling about that, but I’m happy to (attempt to) retract one or both of my bids if that’s what everyone would prefer. Gaelan > On Feb 8, 2018, at 4:20 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > >> On Fri, 9 Feb 2018,

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Zombie auctions for Quazie, 天火狐, and nichdel

2018-02-08 Thread Gaelan Steele
I bid π shinies on each auction. Gaelan > On Feb 8, 2018, at 11:13 AM, ATMunn wrote: > > I bid 2 shinies on each auction. > >> On 2/8/2018 2:02 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: >>> On Thu, 8 Feb 2018, Kerim Aydin wrote: >>> Zombie Auctions[1] >>> I put the Zombie Quazie up for

DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8008-8009

2018-02-04 Thread Gaelan Steele
AGAINST 8008. ASCII art is more convenient and doesn’t require rules support. PRESENT 8009. I like my design (less abstract, larger but sparse map) more, but this is a well-written, interesting proposal I don’t feel justified in voting down. Gaelan > On Feb 4, 2018, at 5:02 PM, Aris

DIS: Proto: Geographical Nomic

2018-02-03 Thread Gaelan Steele
Super-early stage proto. The map used here was thrown together in about one minute, and would be replaced with a nicer one, probably with a completely different layout. I’m not even sure if it’s the size I say it is. --- Rule: Cartogrophy Power: 1 The cartograph[eo]r is an office. In eir

DIS: Re: BUS: Picto-Nomic

2018-02-03 Thread Gaelan Steele
Cool idea, but probably better served by ASCII art. For better or for worse, we have a very text-based system. On the other hand, this has inspired me to put together a map and associated rules. Coming soon to a mailing list near you! Gaelan > On Feb 3, 2018, at 7:25 PM, Cuddle Beam

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: boo!

2018-02-02 Thread Gaelan Steele
Not that I’m aware of (the support went to DIS anyway). > On Feb 2, 2018, at 5:58 PM, Ørjan Johansen <oer...@nvg.ntnu.no> wrote: > >> On Fri, 2 Feb 2018, Alex Smith wrote: >> >>> On Fri, 2018-02-02 at 11:32 -0800, Gaelan Steele wrote: >>> Awfull

DIS: Re: BUS: boo!

2018-01-31 Thread Gaelan Steele
[hurriedly checks ruleset] > On Jan 31, 2018, at 11:00 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > I set 天火狐's master switch to Agora. > I set Quazie's master switch to Agora. > I set Gaelan's master switch to Agora. > I set nichdel's master switch to Agora. > >

Re: DIS: Anyone want to be interim Referee?

2017-11-27 Thread Gaelan Steele
I’ll take it. Gaelan > On Nov 22, 2017, at 3:55 PM, Alexis Hunt wrote: > > I don't actually.

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7982-7988

2017-11-26 Thread Gaelan Steele
Honestly, I’m not sure there’s any reason we should cater to non-players. If you want to play the game, be a player. Gaelan > On Nov 26, 2017, at 6:48 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > On Mon, 27 Nov 2017, Ørjan Johansen wrote: >> On Sun, 26 Nov 2017, Aris Merchant

DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7982-7988

2017-11-26 Thread Gaelan Steele
> On Nov 26, 2017, at 1:09 PM, Aris Merchant > wrote: > > I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating the Agoran > Decision of whether to adopt it, and removing it from the proposal > pool. For this decision, the vote collector is the Assessor, the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Looking interesting

2017-11-26 Thread Gaelan Steele
Completely unintended, actually. Gaelan > On Nov 26, 2017, at 1:43 AM, VJ Rada <vijar...@gmail.com> wrote: > > One day after your yellow card expired, nice. > > Welcome back. > >> On Sun, Nov 26, 2017 at 8:40 PM, Gaelan Steele <g...@canishe.com> wrote: &g

DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7922-7929

2017-10-15 Thread Gaelan Steele
> On Oct 15, 2017, at 8:20 PM, Aris Merchant > wrote: > > I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating the Agoran > Decision of whether to adopt it, and removing it from the proposal > pool. For this decision, the vote collector is the Assessor, the

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