Re: Reading lists

2003-07-18 Thread Reggie Bautista
I wrote: I've always heard good things about Octavia Butler but have never gotten around to reading anything she has written. Where's a good place to start? (As if my to read stack wasn't tall enough already ;-) Julia replied: I'll say _Wild Seed_. It's a stand-alone. Most of her other

Toys (was: Reading lists)

2003-07-15 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip And the cousins I saw the most often growing up were actually second cousins, and they didn't have very many toys at all that I remember (but the youngest was at least 3 years older than I was), but they were really good at finding stuff

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-14 Thread Ray Ludenia
Julia Thompson I also avoid the Barbie aisle in the toy department. (And yes, I intend to continue this when my daughter is 5, and she will live a life deprived of Barbie, and she'll just have to *deal*, the way I did, and I don't think it hurt me in the long run.) I have known a number of

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-14 Thread Bryon Daly
Julia Thompson wrote: I also avoid the Barbie aisle in the toy department. (And yes, I intend to continue this when my daughter is 5, and she will live a life deprived of Barbie, and she'll just have to *deal*, the way I did, and I don't think it hurt me in the long run.) I never paid much

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-14 Thread Julia Thompson
Ray Ludenia wrote: Julia Thompson I also avoid the Barbie aisle in the toy department. (And yes, I intend to continue this when my daughter is 5, and she will live a life deprived of Barbie, and she'll just have to *deal*, the way I did, and I don't think it hurt me in the long run.)

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-14 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Bryon Daly asked: So I'm curious, why do you wish to deprive your daughter of all things Barbie? Barbie is a white-supremacist doll :-) Alberto Monteiro ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-14 Thread Julia Thompson
Bryon Daly wrote: Julia Thompson wrote: I also avoid the Barbie aisle in the toy department. (And yes, I intend to continue this when my daughter is 5, and she will live a life deprived of Barbie, and she'll just have to *deal*, the way I did, and I don't think it hurt me in the long

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-14 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Julia Thompson wrote: My mother, while visiting, looked at the catalog my aunt had for Barbie stuff; my cousin had over $20 worth of clothing, etc. for her Barbie, and this was around 1965. My daughter's Army of Barbies was bought when I could get them by US$1.99; now they are ten

RE: Reading lists.

2003-07-14 Thread Horn, John
From: Alberto Monteiro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bryon Daly asked: So I'm curious, why do you wish to deprive your daughter of all things Barbie? Barbie is a white-supremacist doll :-) My daughter's army of Barbie includes quite a few multi-cultural Barbies. Nita has made a

Re: Reading lists

2003-07-14 Thread Julia Thompson
Halupovich Ilana wrote: Joan Vinge - there is another book about Sparks and Moon - World's End. I read and liked Psion and Catspaw and I read somewhere that there is another book in those series called Psiren, but I was unable to find it. _World's End_ goes between _Snow Queen_ and _Summer

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-14 Thread Russell Chapman
Bryon Daly wrote: I never paid much attention to Barbie issues, but I suddenly realize I have a daughter now who will likely one day be wanting a host of Barbie dolls, Barbie beach houses, Barbie Corvettes, etc. So I'm curious, why do you wish to deprive your daughter of all things Barbie? I

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-14 Thread Reggie Bautista
rob wrote: I expect that I will keep repeating myself on this subject occasionally, until I get a reality check that will tell me if I am alone in believing John C Wright, author of The Golden Age and The Phoenix Exultant is the hottest new author since Brin hit the scene. Tom replied: I'm a

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-14 Thread TomFODW
(My oldest daughter is 20 and my youngest daughter 13, so Barbie's are behind us now). They're into Malibu Stacy now?;) (Either that or they're buying real clothing for themselves, which is even more expensive. g) Tom Beck www.prydonians.org www.mercerjewishsingles.org I always

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-14 Thread Reggie Bautista
Russell C. wrote: (My oldest daughter is 20 and my youngest daughter 13, so Barbie's are behind us now). My wife is 28 and she still buy Barbie dolls periodically, usually the collector Barbies. Her other vice, of course, is Legos. Reggie Bautista Legomaniac Maru

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-14 Thread Russell Chapman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (My oldest daughter is 20 and my youngest daughter 13, so Barbie's are behind us now). They're into Malibu Stacy now?;) (Either that or they're buying real clothing for themselves, which is even more expensive. g) That's nothing - one of them is looking at wedding

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-14 Thread Reggie Bautista
I wrote: I guess I'm a little behind... Erik replied: Better to be a little behind than a big ass! Big ass, smart ass, it's all good... :-) Reggie Bautista Baby Got Back Maru _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-14 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 6:43 PM Subject: Re: Reading lists. On Mon, Jul 14, 2003 at 06:20:42PM -0500, Reggie Bautista wrote: I guess I'm a little behind... Better to be a little

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-14 Thread Russell Chapman
Reggie Bautista wrote: My wife is 28 and she still buy Barbie dolls periodically, usually the collector Barbies. Her other vice, of course, is Legos. Repeat after me : Lego is not a vice. Lego is not a vice. Lego is not a vice. (It is, after all, a constructive hobby) (And e-Bay has

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-14 Thread Reggie Bautista
I wrote: My wife is 28 and she still buy Barbie dolls periodically, usually the collector Barbies. Her other vice, of course, is Legos. Russell replied: Repeat after me : Lego is not a vice. Lego is not a vice. Lego is not a vice. (It is, after all, a constructive hobby) Playing with Legos is

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-14 Thread Julia Thompson
Reggie Bautista wrote: Russell C. wrote: (My oldest daughter is 20 and my youngest daughter 13, so Barbie's are behind us now). My wife is 28 and she still buy Barbie dolls periodically, usually the collector Barbies. Her other vice, of course, is Legos. An adult collecting Barbies is

Re: Reading lists

2003-07-14 Thread Reggie Bautista
Ilana wrote: And speaking of several books in one - Did anybody read Octavia Butler Lilith's Brood ? Julia replied: Isn't that the Xenogenesis Trilogy, starting with _Dawn_, then _Imago_, then _Adulthood Rites_? I bought the individual books in paperback awhile back, enjoyed them all, and got

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-14 Thread Reggie Bautista
George wrote: BTW, Mr. Vinge has come up with two brilliant and frightening concepts, being Bobbled and being Focused. That's just how I usually describe a couple of concepts from John Cramer's _Einstein's Bridge_. The concepts are Reading and Writing but they don't exactly mean what you think

Re: Reading lists

2003-07-14 Thread Julia Thompson
Reggie Bautista wrote: I've always heard good things about Octavia Butler but have never gotten around to reading anything she has written. Where's a good place to start? (As if my to read stack wasn't tall enough already ;-) I'll say _Wild Seed_. It's a stand-alone. Most of her other

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-13 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 10:53 AM 7/12/03 -0500, Julia Thompson wrote: I read all the Killashandra books, Are there more than two? and I thought they were OK (then again, I read the first one in junior high and the second in high school, just to give you an idea of my *emotional* age when I most enjoyed them), but

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-13 Thread Julia Thompson
Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 10:53 AM 7/12/03 -0500, Julia Thompson wrote: I read all the Killashandra books, Are there more than two? Three. Crystal Singer, Killashandra, Crystal Line. I think the publication dates were something like 1981, 1985 or so, 1992. and I thought they were

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-13 Thread Julia Thompson
Julia Thompson wrote: Julia who wouldn't recommend the Power books co-authored with Elizabeth Ann Scarborough Whoops, that one got out before I finished the thought. Should have been who wouldn't recommend the Power books co-authored with Elizabeth Ann Scarborough to this group in

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-13 Thread Robert Seeberger
I expect that I will keep repeating myself on this subject occasionally, until I get a reality check that will tell me if I am alone in believing John C Wright, author of The Golden Age and The Phoenix Exultant is the hottest new author since Brin hit the scene. When I first read Startide Rising

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-13 Thread TomFODW
I expect that I will keep repeating myself on this subject occasionally, until I get a reality check that will tell me if I am alone in believing John C Wright, author of The Golden Age and The Phoenix Exultant is the hottest new author since Brin hit the scene. I'm a big fan of Alastair

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-13 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2003 2:30 PM Subject: Re: Reading lists. I expect that I will keep repeating myself on this subject occasionally, until I get a reality check that will tell me if I am alone in believing

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-13 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Deborah Harrell wrote: --- Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Debbi, if you're following this thread, McCaffrey has written some non-SF stuff, some of it about women who ride horses. Try _Ring of Fear_ or _The Lady_, unless you

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-13 Thread Julia Thompson
Deborah Harrell wrote: serious I do enjoy historical romances that are well-researched, with an interesting story to tell (and not some jaded variation on poor girl-who-is-hated-by-all-other-women-because-she's-ravishingly-beautiful becomes governess/milkmaid/cook for rich man, and then

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-13 Thread Medievalbk
I Deborah Harrell wrote: serious I do enjoy historical romances that are well-researched, with an interesting story to tell (and not some jaded variation on poor girl-who-is-hated-by-all-other-women-because-she's-ravishingly-beautiful becomes governess/milkmaid/cook for rich

Re: Reading lists

2003-07-13 Thread Halupovich Ilana
Joan Vinge - there is another book about Sparks and Moon - World's End. I read and liked Psion and Catspaw and I read somewhere that there is another book in those series called Psiren, but I was unable to find it. Killashandra series - there are Killashandra, Crystal Singer and Crystal Line, but

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-12 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Debbi, if you're following this thread, McCaffrey has written some non-SF stuff, some of it about women who ride horses. Try _Ring of Fear_ or _The Lady_, unless you absolutely can't stand romances. :) I may have read _The Lady_...pony

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-12 Thread Jim Bertrand
From: Michael Harney [EMAIL PROTECTED] I know that this list was originally started as a list dedicated to discussion of specific authors and their books, so I thought I would bring up a topic that is closer to being actually on topic in the little time that I have to compose email today (at

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-12 Thread Michael Harney
I would like to thank everyone who chimed in on this tread for the book suggestions. I will look for many of those on my next trip to the book store. For now, after I've finished _Expendable_ I will probably start reading _The Hobbit_. I want to read that book and all of the _Lord of the Rings_

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-12 Thread Julia Thompson
Deborah Harrell wrote: --- Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Debbi, if you're following this thread, McCaffrey has written some non-SF stuff, some of it about women who ride horses. Try _Ring of Fear_ or _The Lady_, unless you absolutely can't stand romances. :) I

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-12 Thread G. D. Akin
Michael Harney wrote: snip . . . I will probably start reading _The Hobbit_. I want to read that book and all of the _Lord of the Rings_ books before the final movie comes out, and it occured to me that that is just a few months away. And none too soon. George A

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-12 Thread G. D. Akin
Julia Thompson wrote: Deborah Harrell wrote: snip Joan D. Vinge's 'Psiteen' (?sp?) series looked at a future world in a gritty, cool way (think this was aimed at a younger readership, though). Haven't read any of those. I've read a couple of her other novels, and enjoyed them. Her

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-12 Thread William T Goodall
On Sunday, July 13, 2003, at 01:42 am, G. D. Akin wrote: Michael Harney wrote: snip . . . I will probably start reading _The Hobbit_. I want to read that book and all of the _Lord of the Rings_ books before the final movie comes out, and it occured to me that that is just a few months away.

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-11 Thread TomFODW
For the Harry Potter books, I like the UK cover art better, at least judging from Order Of The Phoenix.  And I regret the dumbing down of the book 1 title in the US by changing Philosopher's Stone to Sorceror's Stone. Me too. I have purchased all 5 books from amazon.co.uk because I preferred the

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-11 Thread Ray Ludenia
Robert Seeberger wrote: Gardner is a quite good journeyman writer. Expendable is pretty good, but its sequels are even more fun. I read this recently and enjoyed it. Care to give the titles of the sequels??? Regards, Ray. ___

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-11 Thread Reggie Bautista
Someone wrote: For the Harry Potter books, I like the UK cover art better, at least judging from Order Of The Phoenix.  And I regret the dumbing down of the book 1 title in the US by changing Philosopher's Stone to Sorceror's Stone. Tom Beck replied: Me too. I have purchased all 5 books from

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-11 Thread Reggie Bautista
Bryon wrote: For the Harry Potter books, I like the UK cover art better, at least judging from Order Of The Phoenix. Yeah, it's a lot better for *all* of them. And I regret the dumbing down of the book 1 title in the US by changing Philosopher's Stone to Sorceror's Stone. There are some web

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-11 Thread G. D. Akin
Andrew Crystall wrote: Not really a direct reply, but I'm currently reading _The Mote Arround Mucheson's Eye_ (yes, the sequel to _A Mote in god's Eye_) In the US its known as The Gripping Hand. Not quite as good as Mote (which, IMHO, belongs in the top 10 ever). In fact, I didn't like it

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-11 Thread Reggie Bautista
Andrew Crystall wrote: Not really a direct reply, but I'm currently reading _The Mote Arround Mucheson's Eye_ (yes, the sequel to _A Mote in god's Eye_) George Akin replied: In the US its known as The Gripping Hand. Not quite as good as Mote (which, IMHO, belongs in the top 10 ever). For some

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-11 Thread G. D. Akin
Michael Harney wrote: I know that this list was originally started as a list dedicated to discussion of specific authors and their books, so I thought I would bring up a topic that is closer to being actually on topic in the little time that I have to compose email today (at least part of

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-11 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: Ray Ludenia [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: BRIN L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 8:30 AM Subject: Re: Reading lists. Robert Seeberger wrote: Gardner is a quite good journeyman writer. Expendable is pretty good, but its sequels are even more fun

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-11 Thread Julia Thompson
G. D. Akin wrote: I haven't read much of Anne McCaffrey; nothing of Pern, but I did read Dinosaur Planet which I'd rate as average. I have a friend who highly recommends her Ship Who ... series and maybe someday I'll read some, but I have of them none in the queue. I found the Dinosaur

Reading lists.

2003-07-10 Thread Michael Harney
I know that this list was originally started as a list dedicated to discussion of specific authors and their books, so I thought I would bring up a topic that is closer to being actually on topic in the little time that I have to compose email today (at least part of the reason that I haven't

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-10 Thread Julia Thompson
Michael Harney wrote: I know that this list was originally started as a list dedicated to discussion of specific authors and their books, so I thought I would bring up a topic that is closer to being actually on topic in the little time that I have to compose email today (at least part of

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-10 Thread Erik Reuter
On Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at 11:20:29AM -0600, Michael Harney wrote: On the topic of _/_ by Greg Bear, I may start another thread later about that book, but I wanted to ask, for those who have read more of Greg Bear's books if _/_ represented a One of Greg Bear's better books, was on par with most

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-10 Thread Andrew Crystall
Not really a direct reply, but I'm currently reading _The Mote Arround Mucheson's Eye_ (yes, the sequel to _A Mote in god's Eye_) and _Shadow Puppets_ (OSC - third in the _Shadow_ saga) Andy Dawn Falcon ___

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-10 Thread Bryon Daly
From: Michael Harney [EMAIL PROTECTED] I wanted to ask those who have read some/many of the Pern novels a question. I have only read _Dragonseye_ and _The Dolphins of Pern_. The question I have is: Are the events in some of the other pern books more epic? Let me elaborate for clarity. I

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-10 Thread Bryon Daly
From: Andrew Crystall [EMAIL PROTECTED] _The Mote Arround Mucheson's Eye_ (yes, the sequel to _A Mote in god's Eye_) Hmmm. I thought the sequel to The Mote In God's Eye was The Gripping Hand. Perhaps they titled the book differently in Europe?

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-10 Thread Michael Harney
From: Bryon Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Michael Harney [EMAIL PROTECTED] On the topic of _/_ by Greg Bear, I may start another thread later about that book, but I wanted to ask, for those who have read more of Greg Bear's books if _/_ represented a One of Greg Bear's better books, was on

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-10 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 10 Jul 2003 at 13:55, Bryon Daly wrote: From: Andrew Crystall [EMAIL PROTECTED] _The Mote Arround Mucheson's Eye_ (yes, the sequel to _A Mote in god's Eye_) Hmmm. I thought the sequel to The Mote In God's Eye was The Gripping Hand. Perhaps they titled the book differently in Europe?

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-10 Thread Reggie Bautista
Erik wrote: I'd recommend _Moving Mars_ and _Blood Music_ as his best novels. I haven't read _Moving Mars_, but I agree that _Blood Music_ is one of Bear's best. In fact, right now it's my favorite novel by any of the Killer B's. Reggie Bautista

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-10 Thread Reggie Bautista
Julia wrote: Let's see if I can remember order of publication: Dragonflight Dragonquest The White Dragon Moreta Dragonsdawn Nerilka's Story I think _Nerilka's Story was before Dragonsdawn, and at least two of the HarperHall books were before The White Dragon if I'm not mistaken... The first

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-10 Thread Reggie Bautista
Michael Harney wrote: I wanted to ask those who have read some/many of the Pern novels a question. I have only read _Dragonseye_ and _The Dolphins of Pern_. The question I have is: Are the events in some of the other pern books more epic? Let me elaborate for clarity. I liked the books, but I

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-10 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 10 Jul 2003 at 14:47, Reggie Bautista wrote: Michael Harney wrote: I wanted to ask those who have read some/many of the Pern novels a question. I have only read _Dragonseye_ and _The Dolphins of Pern_. The question I have is: Are the events in some of the other pern books more epic?

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-10 Thread Julia Thompson
Andrew Crystall wrote: On 10 Jul 2003 at 14:47, Reggie Bautista wrote: Michael Harney wrote: I wanted to ask those who have read some/many of the Pern novels a question. I have only read _Dragonseye_ and _The Dolphins of Pern_. The question I have is: Are the events in some of the

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-10 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: Michael Harney [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Brin-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 12:20 PM Subject: Reading lists. I know that this list was originally started as a list dedicated to discussion of specific authors and their books, so I thought I

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-10 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 10 Jul 2003 at 18:01, Julia Thompson wrote: Andrew Crystall wrote: On 10 Jul 2003 at 14:47, Reggie Bautista wrote: Michael Harney wrote: I wanted to ask those who have read some/many of the Pern novels a question. I have only read _Dragonseye_ and _The Dolphins of Pern_.

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-10 Thread Doug Pensinger
Erik Reuter wrote: On Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at 11:20:29AM -0600, Michael Harney wrote: On the topic of _/_ by Greg Bear, I may start another thread later about that book, but I wanted to ask, for those who have read more of Greg Bear's books if _/_ represented a One of Greg Bear's better books, was

Re: Reading lists.

2003-07-10 Thread Bryon Daly
From: Andrew Crystall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aha yes, the European name for _Dragonseye_ is _Red Star Rising_. I prefer the European name, again (heh). Then again, most UK printing's cover art tends to be well...not as good. For the Harry Potter books, I like the UK cover art better, at least judging