of innocence people an objective evil or not? If it is not, than
why would the raping of innocnent people be an objective evil? Why would
anything be an objective evil?
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that in
another post.
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and whites showed a pretty united front. A good outcome of
this horrid action was that the town saw how much they really had in
common.
I'll end this post here to keep the focus on the difference in our
perspective.
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from folks like Gautam. While one may debate
what is the better choice, I cannot see how an ideal outcome is one of our
real choices.
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them to speak at
yours.
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Among other things, it's a amazing to lump folks who call themselves
conservatives among liberals. The questions sound kinda funny. It doesn't
add to 100% because everyone doesn't self-identify.
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. Several
things fell of shelves and broke and a plant fell off a counter and made a
big mess.
My daughter, Beth, was backstage at the San Francisco Conservatory of Music
when the quake hit. She didn't even notice.
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Not about invading other countries in the name of the Lord, Allah or any
athropomorphic deity...
Just to be clear, is it the consensus here that no country should ever
interfere with the internal affairs of another?
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There is no historical task which so reveals a man's true self as the
writing of a Life of Jesus. No vital force comes into the figure unless a
man breathes into it all the hate or all the love of which he is capable...
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calling your position
America is always wrong.
What I still don't understand is why people don't want to know the actual
viewpoints of folks they don't agree with.
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nature, and it is difficult to overcome.
But, only for some folks. Lord knows, it's not that I'm without flaws, or
blind points. It's just that I have a drive to see the flaws in every
position, including my own. I try to attack the flaws to fix them , often
unnerving folks around me.
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the subsidy? Two words: farm lobby.
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were open there. The families lucky enough to have an
exploited worker as a family member would be among the best off in the
neighborhood.
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reason to unsubscribe. But, I thought I'd
bring up an issue I have..out of respect for the length of time I've spent
with others on this list. If folks think it worthwhile, I'd appreciate it.
If the issue is considered trivial by others, so it goes.
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reason to unsubscribe. But, I thought I'd
bring up an issue I have..out of respect for the length of time I've spent
with others on this list. If folks think it worthwhile, I'd appreciate it.
If the issue is considered trivial by others, so it goes.
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I am
in Zambia dying.
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to me.
I think that's a fair critique of my posting.
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Would you consider this an reasonable, non right
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3) Are you interested in discussing what I just
told
that I am allowed to write long posts.
In short, may I please please be given explicit limits to work within, since
following the etiquette guidelines is no longer sufficient.
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distribution curve, the folks with family incomes in the 30%-70% of median
income range still form a local maximum...which can rightfully be called the
middle class.
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the first
Supercenter on a space colony . . .
No, the robotic union has successfully blocked it.
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things and you think I am blind to others. My metaphor of wrestling in the
mud was an attempt to indicate a mutual acceptance of this limitation and a
proposed way of handling it.
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in the mundane.
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, will be the opening arias tomorrow
and Saturday. Beth Summers-Minette will be performing those arias. I'll be
flying in Friday and leaving Sunday to catch the Saturday night performance.
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a way to drop
launch costs a factor of 100 to 500, then space based solar becomes a
player. There is nothing like that on the horizon.
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(Keith wrote)
Takes 10 200 ton payload
rockets
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The speed of sound
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(Keith wrote)
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(Keith wrote)
What do you want
proportions
catastrophic. Let's put it this way, I'd expect the horrors of the 21st
century to be less than the 20th.
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There is physics behind this, not just a lack of will. _That's_ been my
point all along.
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the strongest advcocate of relatively conservative
causes... well, conservative by Brin-L standards. :-)
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it's all relative, dan. i notice a lot of sf fans are pragmatic, and
independent. we don't necessarily hew to dogmatic party lines.
It's true that Sci-Fi fans are not randomly
is far more liberal
than
Texas, how did this happen?
Dan M.
(Yes, this post is tounge-in-cheek, but I think it is a valid use of the
reasoning that the use of alternative energy is determined by whether an
area is dominated by Big Oil).
If you think its valid reasoning
themselves environmentalists
would oppose the idea of windmills filling the ocean off the Bay area coast,
with only shipping channels interrupting the views of nothing but wind
turbines for as far as the eye could see. Don't cut my house value and NIMBY
seems to be strong motivations.
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as beneficial. Do you see
any exceptions? In particular, do you see any trade restrictions that help
our competitors (such as Japan and China) and hurt the US.
2) Do you have any idea why the job participation % has gone down for the
last 6-7 years or so?
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billion/year. But, at about 40 cents/kWh (rounding
up for simplicity), we're talking 1.6 trillion a year. That's not
practical.
If solar is practical, why does it need such a large incentive to be used?
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a lot.
So, in conclusion, the Nurture Assumption made a tacit assumption...and it
was false.
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I read that, and found holes large
in the Bible said it
wasn't literally true. So far, that argument has been met with silence.
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be comfortable with an
absolute universal set...
Alberto Monteiro
For a while the Catholic church would only accept Cardinal numbers up to 72.
:-)
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as ROY G BIV -- Red Orange Yellow Green
Blue Indigo Violet.
Or did you learn a different system?
Well, when I was a kid I noticed that the colors blended to the point that I
couldn't tell. Now that I'm older, I know there is a rich infinity of
colors in the rainbow. :-)
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connected to the wireless router. Does anyone have any ideas what happened?
My guess is a switch was accidently set, but I don't know how to get to it.
With XP, I think I could find it, but Vista is baffling me.
I've rebooted everything
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person is not the result of GWB. Other factors dominate there...as
they did in other places.
So, as much as I consider GWB a bumbling idiot, I don't think that every
mess is his fault.
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of supply and the law of demand that prevail.
We lost control of supply...which started the last oil crisis. Now, we've
lost control of demand.
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can maintain 10%+
economic growth without this type of arrangement.
The only real answer will be to watch. And even then, folks will argue for
years afterwards as to the true cause of this and that.
Dan M.
BTW, I'm not really arguing with you; I'm 90% in your corner in this
discussionI just
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What's wicked about bringing children into the
world that you have the
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longer.
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, but I agree strongly with Neli that no American has the right to
decide whether a Zambian should accept a job.
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through my 70s. I like what I do, and I probably have enough
unique expertise to keep working, say, 5-10 hours/week in my mid-70s.
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the world. I'd like it to be faster, but if China and India can reach the
level of, say, South Korea in a generation; that would be an enormous
accomplishment for the world. The trend over the last 5 years has been in
that direction, and I think that's a good thing.
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When beliefs get
in the way of reason. And in that sense, Stalinist
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I think that, while I have quibbles with your first statement, Agreed with
your
that, targeted programs such as the micro-loan programs
will help.
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will hold up
their end of the wage-price spiral. So, I don't expect much more than 5%-6%
inflation before things settle down.
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that
seriously evaluated creation science, the vaccine-autism correlation,
astrology, and Gaianism as theories of science alongside biology, chemistry,
and physics would be worthwhile in teaching what science really is.
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clearly a
non-fundamentalist one. The other part is that I actually listen to them
and try to understand their viewpoint. That's critical to
evangelismwhich is what I see myself doing with fundamentalists. :-)
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is she'll laugh off Palin's pick as weak.
Palin is a Hail Mary pass for the Republicans. Most don't work. But, every
once in a while, to use another analogy, one wins the big pot by drawing to
an inside straight. So, we'll have to stay tuned.
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delegates (when the original delegates were no-shows) efficiently.
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in this post).
The next area of exploration is something that I think is associated with
ideology, although not the same the same thing. That is the ideals of a
person: that set of beliefs/axioms that they use to make judgments.
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Having brought up
in at least one of its forms? How many folks are true
post-modernists, who think there is no better, no worse, just personal
desire and politics?
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The two clear views are these: morality
another.
The other alternative, which I see many people use, is sliding in a
disguised version of the naturalistic fallacy through the back door.
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and the price is $200), is that the US drilling could
drop prices down to the point where the relative cost of other options are
so high that they are ignored.
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the alternatives.
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I accept
the other.
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No, actually, I believe
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Dan M said:
Historically, empires can last a long time
just crashed and I
don't have time to write it now. If anyone is interested, I'll do it later.
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-20th centuries.
So, that's a start.
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Glad to see your empowered again, Dan. How bad was it?
Well, I was out of town, as was my wife, on
mean that techniques of science cannot be borrowed to look at some
of the historical information. -
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greatest
disappointment.
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There are rigorous ways to look
Brothers (sp) had a 40x leverage. Deuchbank, I've heard from a good
source, is leveraged 60x. If it falls, I think it may be impossible for
Germany to bail it out.
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that governments can spend.
If you make a flat statement, I tend to believe that's what you believe.
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.
That looks like the start of a panic to me. I'm not sure what you'd call
it.
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The natural tendency of business (which we
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The problem was that no-one (including
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The problem was that no-one
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That's
what the interest rate measures
on
sci.physics in the good old days of the internet. :-)
YMMV, but I find that type of viewpoint helpful when I read his posts.
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will be close to the 2005 numbers.
My source is:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080925/ap_on_sc/warming_emissions;_ylt=Ap6Hw77B
CbPZzZA5UyXLRHCs0NUE
http://tinyurl.com/3grm32
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me to think that the 5% moral
hazard of having people lose _almost_ all of their money instead of all
their money is an acceptable price.
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reasonable probability at all.
My successes in the past are one small testimony to the falsity of this
position. You seem to have a black and white version of complexity. If it
were strictly true, chemistry would be impossible. :-)
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), the market is efficient enough so they cannot
predict it. Yet, that does not mean their knowledge is meaningless...which
is the logical conclusion from your argument.
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On 27/09/2008, at 3:02 AM, Dan M wrote:
2007
a number of
crossing passes through the box. Most of them don't end up in a goal. But,
there is a good chance that if you keep doing it, one will.
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