as possible. In particular I need results from non-Unix
systems.
--
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On the bright side, if sendmail is tied up routing spam and pointless
uknot posts, it's not waving its arse around saying root me!
-- Peter Corlett, in uknot
David Golden wrote:
On 10/5/07, David Landgren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
David Cantrell wrote:
From a quick look over the reports I've sent this month, 40K looks like
a good cutoff point. Add the introductory text, perl -V, and any
comments I might add by hand, and it'll still be well under
be delighted to receive any fail results :-)
To get the list of distributions to test ...
SELECT DISTINCT dist, version
FROM cpanstats
WHERE perl='5.5.4' AND
state='pass';
is what you need to ask Barbie's cpan testers database.
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::Translator, which
isn't a declared pre-req but is loaded by some other module.
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Hail Caesar! Those about to vi ^[ you!
Data::Dumper, so please please please support that as well, like Andreas
does for distribution prefs files.
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Wow, my first sigquoting! I feel so special now!
-- Dan Sugalski
On Thu, Jan 10, 2008 at 10:04:50AM +, Kidney Bingos wrote:
It looks like some pesky module has installed Module::Build, but managed to
fuck it up.
stabbity
Don't you clean out your smokers after each testing run?
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version as
a pre-req.
So to help track down things like this it would be helpful to have the
version of Test::Pod::Coverage, Test::Pod, and their relevant
dependencies listed in the report.
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[OS X] appeals to me as a monk, a user
and is independent from the transport being
used? Cos if so, I'll take another look at adding a 'file' transport
for offline testing.
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Immigration: making Britain great since AD43
for yourself.
Unfortunately it's not my machine so I can't give you an account for
debugging, but I would be happy to be remote hands and apply patches
and so on to help find out where the problem is.
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Sobol's Law of Telecom Utilities:
Telcos
, Solaris or Irix.
I'll try to squeeze some more details out of it later.
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There once a a tramp with enable
Whose router used proprietary cables.
When he got pissed on meths,
He thought screw IOS,
Let's apt-get install
{ return $fakehome };
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engineer: n. one who, regardless of how much effort he puts in
to a job, will never satisfy either the suits or the scientists
can put a 5.8.8 and a
5.10.0 along side that would doubleplusgood.
I'm already testing with 5.10.0 on FBSD 6.2.
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You don't need to spam good porn
a link to Barbie's NNTP de-obfuscator yet?
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The Law of Daves: in any gathering of technical people, the
number of Daves will be greater than the number of women.
in a module. (If it isn't already.)
Hey, David Cantrell -- how about Devel::CheckBin to go along in the
series with Devel::CheckLib and Devel::CheckOS? :-)
Stoppit! I've got too many projects as it is :-)
What should it do? Look for a named binary in the $PATH and
$Config{whateverbin}? What about
* tester called chris, not just
[EMAIL PROTECTED] If we were to do that, it should at least be the whole
of the email address used for sending reports.
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Anyone willing to give up a little fun for tolerance deserves neither
id,state,tester,dist,version,platform,perl
1921158,'pass','[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nigel
Horne)','Net-Telnet','3.03','i486-gnu','5.10.0'
1921160,'pass','[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nigel
Horne)','URI','1.37','i486-gnu','5.10.0'
...
Could you let me know what platform this is please?
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that is generated and publicly accessible which I
can grab?
ls-lR.gz, in the root of any CPAN mirror.
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There's a hole in my bucket, dear Liza, dear Liza.
WHAT MAKES YOU SAY THERE IS A HOLE IN YOUR BUCKET?
it was that
was really at fault. With a smiley. It seems to go down pretty well.
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grant? eg, someone who works as a contractor and so doesn't have a
long-term job to keep?
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23.5 degrees of axial tilt is the reason for the season
. Right now,
you're pissing off the very people who are in a position to fix what you
think is broken.
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Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands,
hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. -- H. L. Mencken
is no longer the most current and
discarding reports that refer to older releases.
But see my idea about a CP5.8AN. Authors shouldn't be notified, I
agree, but discarding reports entirely doesn't seem like a good idea.
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What is the difference
to
receive them.
You keep saying spam, but that's not the right term. You're being an
ass characterizing it like that.
Actually I think a good case could be made, depending on how you define
the bulk bit in unsolicited bulk email.
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switch to doing this and then
batching them up at the end of each day.
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Erudite is when you make a classical allusion to a
feather. Kinky is when you use the whole chicken.
not needed for our private repository.
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Sobol's Law of Telecom Utilities:
Telcos are malicious; cablecos are simply clueless.
will be sent to a particular tester. I'm thinking to set that
at 1 day.
Looks good, but I'd set the cooldown period to a week. If there's an
urgent upgrade to one of the modules, you can always temporarily change
it to a day to make sure the message gets out quickly.
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Before I upload it to the CPAN, could I ask if someone using MirOS BSD
could check that this release candidate detects it correctly?
http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david/private/Devel-CheckOS-1.44.tar.gz
It should detect it as:
MirOSBSD
Unix
OSFeatures::POSIXShellRedirection
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On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 09:54:45PM +0200, Slaven Rezic wrote:
Aristotle Pagaltzis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
* David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-10-22 16:55]:
There's two potential problems here. The first is that I'd
already tested something else Inline-ish in that testing run
localise %ENV, right?)
[Ingy not handing over maintenance or doing another release]
Any particular reason why you don't think he'd do that?
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Longum iter est per praecepta, breve et efficax per exempla.
:
...
or someone could report the buggy exit code to the parrot gang.
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Deck of Cards: $1.29.
101 Solitaire Variations book: $6.59.
Cheap replacement for the one thing Windows is good at: priceless
-- Shane Lazarus
FreeHAL-69 contains a 137MB database and several other very large files.
Other versions of this distro may do too.
People might want to exclude it from automated testing to avoid running
out of disk space.
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Sobol's Law of Telecom
? Or if there's any reason
that perl -V can't run - such as out of process-table space?
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NANOG makes me want to unplug everything and hide under the bed
-- brian d foy
character line length limit. Including the CRLF at the
end. A cursory look at Net::SMTP didn't show up anything obvious either
for checking or enforcing this, and that, ultimately, would I think be
the right place to fix this if it really is the problem.
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are you
testing (and failing) my Tk-ish module without an X server? on this
page:
http://wiki.cpantesters.org/wiki/CPANAuthorNotes
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Irregular English:
you have anecdotes; they have data; I have proof
smoking modules, my $^X is
$HOME/cpantesting/perl-$version/bin/perl, and that any pre-requisites
will have been installed for that build of perl, if an author does shell
out to the first perl he can find in the $PATH, then things will pretty
much always break anyway.
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this myself in the few days
before Christmas, but I'm sure it would be a good idea for at least one
other person to do it.
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What a lovely day! Now watch me spoil it for you.
on threading or Wx out
into other packages and have Padre depend on them, then you would at
least get better testing of those bits. No idea how practical that is
though.
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score
), and I'm not
prepared to install that on my headless testing machines.
I'm giving it a go on OS X to see what happens.
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On the bright side, if sendmail is tied up routing spam and pointless
uknot posts, it's not waving its arse
to build
perl and have $Config{cc} come out the end set as ccache gcc, then the
bug is in the perl build process.
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There is no one true indentation style,
But if there were KR would be Its Prophets.
Peace be upon Their Holy Beards.
Barbie wrote:
Thanks for highlighting this David (W that is ... too
many Davids! ;))
FWIW, I updated CPANdeps a couple of days ago to point at the new site.
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You are so cynical. And by cynical, of course, I mean correct
* ^List-Id:.*cpan-testers-discuss.perl.org
| formail -i Reply-To: cpan-testers-discuss@perl.org
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fdisk format reinstall, doo-dah, doo-dah;
fdisk format reinstall, it's the Windows way
NAME
Please find ...
If you have an issue ...
If you wish to unsubscribe ...
To set your preferences ...
list
of
reports
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[OS X] appeals to me as a monk, a user, a compiler-of-apps, a
sometime coder, and an easily amused primate
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 02:59:07PM +, Barbie wrote:
At the moment I'm only sending ASCII mail. Might look at HTML mail and
use that in the future though.
Plain-text with an HTML alternative, please :-)
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Please stop rolling your
to
configure the body text of the emails they get sent seems ... silly :-)
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You may now start misinterpreting what I just
wrote, and attacking that misinterpretation.
On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 08:00:44AM -0500, David Golden wrote:
You may want to add this to your skip lists or distroprefs immediately
if you're testing Acme modules.
Thanks for the warning!
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engineer: n. one who
bother excluding them normally. But I'm going to exclude this 'un
simply because if one of my testers hits it, then it'll prevent me from
testing any other new uploads for ages.
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Never attribute to malice that which can be explained
, which in turn requires
that you have *a* perl with YAML installed, but in my case, that's the
system-wide perl in /usr/bin, whereas my testers all use
~/cpantesting/perl-$VERSION/bin/perl.
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Immigration: making Britain great since AD43
that for your smokers?
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You are so cynical. And by cynical, of course, I mean correct.
-- Kurt Starsinic
something?
Check out the tests for Data::Compare, and how that turns PERL5LIB into
a load of -Ifoo -Ibar -Ibaz for taint tests.
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I apologize if I offended you personally,
I intended to do it professionally.
-- Steve Champeon
to using the official 5.10.0 release.
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It's my experience that neither users nor customers can articulate
what it is they want, nor can they evaluate it when they see it
-- Alan Cooper
, or are not properly detecting when
those pre-requisites fail.
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Us Germans take our humour very seriously
-- German cultural attache talking to the Today Programme,
about the German supposed lack of a sense of humour, 29 Aug 2001
On Fri, Apr 03, 2009 at 06:43:10AM -0400, David Golden wrote:
You may just need to pick a different mirror. I tend to rotate
between cpan.yahoo.com, cpan.pair.com and mirrors.kernel.org.
Looks like all the mirrors stopped updating at the end of March and are
still stuck.
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is
available here http://www.cantrell.org.uk/cgit/cgit.cgi/cpxxxan/. If
you would like to clone my git repo, the username/password are both
'anonygit'.
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Hail Caesar! Those about to vi ^[ you!
already in the database.
Not sure how much of my code will be relevant, but ...
http://www.cantrell.org.uk/cgit/cgit.cgi/cpxxxan/
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Erudite is when you make a classical allusion to a
feather. Kinky is when you use the whole chicken.
If anyone has Midnight BSD, I'd be grateful if you could test
Devel-CheckOS-1.6 for me, with AUTOMATED_TESTING set. If it fails,
please send me a log and your perl -V.
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, allow a couple of days.
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Seven o'clock in the morning is something that
happens to those less fortunate than me
, if you got a test failure report from me, then I can give
you access to the Linux, FreeBSD and OS X systems I test on, but not the
others.
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Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity
-- Hanlon's Razor
://cp5.6.2an.barnyard.co.uk/
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Computer Science is about lofty design goals and careful algorithmic
optimisation. Sysadminning is about cleaning up the resulting mess.
on the side of caution and
only indexes distributions that are known to work (instead of only those
that are not known to fail) just about every non-trivial module will
fail to install because something which *does* work doesn't have any
test results available.
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make sure that Bar is
installed, Foo may change its pre-reqs in the future.
Also if Foo makes extra functionality available if Barf is available,
and you use that functionality of Foo, then you should also list Barf
as a pre-req.
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You
have a ~/perl-5.8.8/bin directory, which is in my path. And that's
where scripts get installed from the CPAN. CPAN.pm is responsible for
telling EU::MM / M::B where to put stuff.
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IMO, the primary historical significance of Unix
/
Having so many yaml (and such files and directories) build up seems to
slow down my testing without a large benefit that I can see.
Can someone tell me what are the best ways to avoid or correct
excessive build up?
rm -rf /home/Administrator/.cpan
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confirmation from a friend at Sun).
IIRC we have people running Solaris 9 and 10, so 7 and 8 would be good.
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Guns aren't the problem. People who deserve to die are the problem.
are passed through to the Net::SMTP::TLS
constructer
And Net::SMTP::TLS says that Port is one of the accepted arguments.
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One person can change the world, but most of the time they shouldn't
-- Marge Simpson
regularly updated feed of
tester results?
There's the NNTP archive. Not sure if you can actually speak NNTP to it
and get a feed per se.
* Does it matter whether a module is released by the Owner
or a Co-maintainer for CPAN Tester to work?
No.
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no test results?
It doesn't. It has six passes.
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Your call is important to me. To see if it's important to
you I'm going to make you wait on hold for five minutes.
All calls are recorded for blackmail and amusement purposes.
David Cantrell wrote:
Martin Evans wrote:
On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 10:25 PM, cr...@animalhead.com wrote:
The mm library, which is a non-CPAN prerequisite for IPC::MMA, is quite
easy
to download and install from http://www.ossp.org/pkg/lib/mm/
sudo apt-get install libmm-dev
Anyone know
to check that any new version builds, let me know and I'll check manually.
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Immigration: making Britain great since AD43
regularly tests on AIX.
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When a man is tired of London, he is tired of life
-- Samuel Johnson
to the author
manually. If future versions still have the bug, I'd just disable
testing for all versions of that distribution.
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It's my experience that neither users nor customers can articulate
what it is they want, nor can
to discover exactly what
you want.
Also, things like CPAN::Reporter may need patching to keep track of
which perl config options were used for each distribution, so that it
DTRT with regard to duplicate reports.
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Human Rights left
on at
least some of my machines. However, I really don't want random windows
popping up all over the place on the only one of my testing machines to
actually have a display, because it's also the same machine I use for
watching films on.
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Godliness is next
On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 02:53:07PM -0700, p...@0ne.us wrote:
David Cantrell wrote:
If you can point me at the software, I'll install a fake X server on at
least some of my machines. However, I really don't want random windows
popping up all over the place on the only one of my testing
for a few days but today Barbie fixed the
testers master database by hiding the broken reports that come from a
broken and so far unstopped broken test machine.
But this is one of Chris's reports, not APOCAL's.
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Today's previously
virtualisation environment.
Can we get distributable VMs for non-free OSes?
Not legally.
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Support terrierism! Adopt a dog today!
How are we doing for capacity? Will Robert and Ask get cross if I turn
on a 5.11.4 smoker?
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Sobol's Law of Telecom Utilities:
Telcos are malicious; cablecos are simply clueless.
. Though his email address seems correct b/c on p5p his
messages do appear.
I got it, I've just not had time to look into it yet.
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It's my experience that neither users nor customers can articulate
what it is they want
build of perl and CPAN.pm config. Then
at the end of the day, I blow that away, so that there's always a clean
startup the next day.
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Graecum est; non legitur
, or something else,
or am I just being Teh Dum?
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I remember when computers were frustrating because they did
exactly what you told them to. That seems kinda quaint now.
-- JD Baldwin, in the Monastery
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 08:55:44PM -0500, David Golden wrote:
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 7:03 PM, David Cantrell da...@cantrell.org.uk wrote:
Is PAUSE having problems, or the fast updatey thing, or something else,
or am I just being Teh Dum?
You're checking the wrong file.
$ HEAD http
can start
installing stuff though.
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.
But has been in core since the dawn of time.
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IMO, the primary historical significance of Unix is that it marks the
time in computer history where CPUs became so cheap that it was possible
to build an operating system without adult supervision
that my memory is faulty.
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[OS X] appeals to me as a monk, a user, a compiler-of-apps, a
sometime coder, and an easily amused primate with a penchant
for those that are pretty, colorful, and make nice noises.
-- Dan Birchall
it. Or have Apple removed
it from the developer kit in some later release?
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Graecum est; non legitur
some tips here:
http://wiki.cpantesters.org/wiki/CPANAuthorNotes
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What profiteth a man, if he win a flame war, yet lose his cool?
case these would go through just fine on, say, Solaris:
* Date::Holidays::AU::Darwin
* Test::Glob::Like::Win32
but these would be blocked:
* Darwin::SomethingAppleSpecific
* Win32::SomethingWindowsy
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Fashion label: n: a liferaft
On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 05:42:21PM +0100, Barbie wrote:
On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 05:05:49PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote:
That's a *really* bad way of checking. If I'm reading it correctly,
then it will flag as OS-specific the following hypothetical modules:
Date::Holidays::AU::Darwin
(with tests and doco if necessary)
or give me access to a machine with Ye Olde Perle installed.
Note that the user doesn't have to have Devel::AssertOS installed - it's
designed to be bundled with your code, and comes with a script
(use-devel-assertos) to make that easy.
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there are two issues with this. Firstly the prerequisite version
isn't too low, it's too high, so the
message given by CPAN::Reporter is wrong.
It needs 2.6, it has 2.017001. It's reporting that the version it has
of DBD::Pg is too low.
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Do not be afraid
On Fri, Jul 09, 2010 at 01:01:12PM +0100, Nigel Horne wrote:
On 09/07/10 12:36, David Cantrell wrote:
On Thu, Jul 08, 2010 at 08:48:26AM +0100, Nigel Horne wrote:
CPAN::Reporter: test results were not valid, Prerequisite version too low:
requires:
Module Need Have
for declaring the version number as is used by the
stuff it depends on.
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PERL: Politely Expressed Racoon Love
to test a module that states to require at
least 5.8.8?
It isn't. The result is NA, not FAIL.
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Vegetarian: n: a person who, due to poor lifestyle choices,
is more likely to get arse cancer than a normal person
On Fri, Jul 09, 2010 at 05:56:35PM +0200, Jerome Quelin wrote:
btw. this is not the only version problem encountered when dealing with
cpan modules. i think the best one i got is the guy who used ddmm
as a version scheme! :-)
boggle
That's INSANE!
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On Fri, Jul 09, 2010 at 02:41:41PM +0200, The Sidhekin wrote:
On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 2:01 PM, Nigel Horne n...@bandsman.co.uk wrote:
On 09/07/10 12:36, David Cantrell wrote:
On Thu, Jul 08, 2010 at 08:48:26AM +0100, Nigel Horne wrote:
Module Need Have
! DBD::Pg
the Linuxbierwanderung.
If, in the meantime, I can upgrade CPAN::Reporter *without* having to
reconfigure it for the New Shiny, then I'll do that later today, if I
remember.
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It's my experience that neither users nor customers can articulate
it
was running - I turned it off when the NOC guys asked us to turn the
volume down on the mailing list) if only because it caught me using a
few pointless neologisms, which I find distasteful.
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Anyone who cannot cope with mathematics
/5.6.2/CPAN/Config.pm
$
I'm sure I've just done something stupid, cos I know that I had this
working in the past - can someone point out what I've done wrong?
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All principles of gravity are negated by fear
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 07:12:36PM +0100, Tim Bunce wrote:
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 03:07:50PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote:
One problem remains however. I'm getting test failures that I can't
explain for DBI 1.604 (this being the last version to support 5.6).
Compare these:
http
about toolchain modules and perl -V is missing.
Testing that distribution again, it passes just fine, although I don't
know if that report went just as skew-whiff as this one.
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Feature: an incorrectly implemented bug
releases a fix, but instead will get cleared out and downgraded
to whatever working version I have in the tarball I restore from.
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Repent through spending
that build of perl was originally
Configured, so you should be able to build a 5.10 and 5.12 that are as
close as possible to your 5.8.8. But do also check 5.8.9, in case it's
been fixed in that.
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comparative and superlative explained:
Huhn
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