Re: [Crm-sig] P72 has Language

2019-10-14 Thread Martin Doerr
his document was written in. Functionally, the issue for me  is, is there a good reason against adding a binary property off of person which can indicate their knowledge ability and connect to a well known URI for a language. Best, George -- Dr

Re: [Crm-sig] P72 has Language

2019-10-14 Thread Martin Doerr
societal effects? What about illiterate people? Speaking, not writing...? Maintaining oral history with great precision, etc. What about creoles ? Best, Martin On 10/14/2019 7:33 PM, Martin Doerr wrote: Dear George, The first principle of all is are there relevant queries that need that

Re: [Crm-sig] NEW ISSUE: Approximate Dimensions

2019-10-16 Thread Martin Doerr
the general issue is considered to be worthy of inclusion. Rob ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- -------- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the

Re: [Crm-sig] NEW ISSUE: Approximate Dimensions

2019-10-16 Thread Martin Doerr
a single phenomenal place, without using P189?  For example, I have a bounding box for my city of birth, and a centroid pin for it … I wasn’t born in two places, yet without using P189, I would need to have two P7s … no? What am I missing? 😊 Many thanks, Rob *From: *Crm-sig on behalf of Marti

Re: [Crm-sig] ISSUE proposal to replace E18 isa E92 and E4 isa E92 with properties

2019-10-16 Thread Martin Doerr
corresponds to the intuitions of natural language. ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural

Re: [Crm-sig] NEW ISSUE: Approximate Dimensions

2019-10-18 Thread Martin Doerr
ction/objects/34663/ [3] https://collections.mfa.org/objects/58904 [4] https://www.nga.gov/collection/art-object-page.4217.html *From: *Martin Doerr *Date: *Wednesday, October 16, 2019 at 11:18 AM *To: *Robert Sanderson , "crm-sig@ics.forth.gr" *Subject: *Re: [Crm-sig] NEW ISSUE: Approximate Dimensi

Re: [Crm-sig] NEW ISSUE: Approximate Dimensions

2019-10-19 Thread Martin Doerr
of the concern, that it’s currently impossible to abide by the definition.  The implementation concern of asserting that two approximations are related can be considered separately 😊 Rob *From: *Crm-sig on behalf of Martin Doerr *Date: *Friday, October 18, 2019 at 10:26 AM *To: *"

Re: [Crm-sig] HW for issue 349

2019-10-19 Thread Martin Doerr
/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH) N.Plastira 100, Vassilika Vouton

Re: [Crm-sig] Curated Holding vs Physical Thing as Aggregate vs Set

2019-10-21 Thread Martin Doerr
ailman/listinfo/crm-sig ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information

Re: [Crm-sig] New Issue: Collaborative (Updated) Translation of the current CRM in French [X-ICS Spam]

2019-10-22 Thread Martin Doerr
juliette.hue...@inha.fr <mailto:juliette.hue...@inha.fr> Aurelia Vasile aurelia.vas...@uca.fr <mailto:aurelia.vas...@uca.fr> -- Best, Anaïs Guillem ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/m

Re: [Crm-sig] Curated Holding vs Physical Thing as Aggregate vs Set

2019-10-22 Thread Martin Doerr
n the "lot" as a subclass route, the two lots (lot physical and lot conceptual) should be different classes I think. But I can see that increases complexity. T. On 21/10/2019 19:56, Martin Doerr wrote: Dear Florian, All, It is not clear to me why people do not want to use E18 for Aggregat

[Crm-sig] About stratigraphic relations

2020-02-25 Thread Martin Doerr
Dear All, Here an example of a geological stratigraphy with complex arguments of before and after (synclines and anticlines) https://pixels.com/featured/folded-rock-with-anticline-dan-guravich.html Best, Martin -- Dr. Martin Doerr

[Crm-sig] P170 scope note, issue 434

2020-02-27 Thread Martin Doerr
of E61 Time Primitive with the instance of E52 <#_E53_Place> Time-Span that constitutes the interpretation of the terms of the time primitive as an extent in absolute, real time. In First Order Logic: P170(x,y) ⊃E61(x) P170(x,y) ⊃E52(y) -- ----

[Crm-sig] New ISSUE: presence covered parts of

2020-03-04 Thread Martin Doerr
esence from Nov. 19 1755 until April 9 1978 /during/ Nov. 19 1755 until April 9 1768 E93: The Roman Empire in 19 August AD 14 P166: The Roman Empire in 19 August AD 14 /P166 was a presence of/ The Roman Empire (E4) -- Dr. Martin Doerr

Re: [Crm-sig] NEW ISSUE: [Sci] Labels of O19, O21

2020-03-07 Thread Martin Doerr
 |  Getty Digital  | getty.edu <http://getty.edu/> signature_1632129958 ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- Dr. Martin Doerr Ho

Re: [Crm-sig] NEW ISSUE: Normal Custodian Of?

2020-03-07 Thread Martin Doerr
___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Instit

Re: [Crm-sig] Describing Exhibitions ?

2020-03-07 Thread Martin Doerr
_ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr <mailto:Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr> http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr

Re: [Crm-sig] Describing Exhibitions ?

2020-03-08 Thread Martin Doerr
orary Aggregate" would be useful (P2 has type:...). This can pertain to many situations and processes. A new class, in whatever extension, could specify the exhibition activity. All the best, Martin On 3/7/2020 7:20 PM, Martin Doerr wrote: Dear Thomas, Just to clarify: Any fixed set of ob

[Crm-sig] examples for temporal primitives

2020-03-12 Thread Martin Doerr
d of* oA^end < B^end -- ---- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH) N.

[Crm-sig] CIDOC CRM and TELOS

2020-03-13 Thread Martin Doerr
6M-3D> Kind regards Martin -- -------- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH)

Re: [Crm-sig] NEW ISSUE: Normal Custodian Of?

2020-03-20 Thread Martin Doerr
that wait for elaboration of suitable vocabs. Best, martin Rob *From: *Crm-sig on behalf of Martin Doerr *Date: *Saturday, March 7, 2020 at 7:48 AM *To: *"crm-sig@ics.forth.gr" *Subject: *Re: [Crm-sig] NEW ISSUE: Normal Custodian Of? Dear Robert, All, I see the point, but pr

[Crm-sig] NEW ISSUE 380 continued: revision of P81, P82 (ISSUE 380 continued)

2020-03-24 Thread Martin Doerr
e (E52) /at some time within/ 1406-1420(E61) -- ---- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory I

Re: [Crm-sig] Modelling an Actor carrying out an action at the Behest of Another

2020-04-15 Thread Martin Doerr
7;manner' in a grammatical sense with CRM and somehow the .1 properties aid with this important kind of construct. Anyhow just food for thought. Best, George *CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the Getty. Do n

[Crm-sig] E-Votes , rules

2020-04-16 Thread Martin Doerr
-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- -------- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Researc

Re: [Crm-sig] Modelling an Actor carrying out an action at the Behest of Another

2020-04-16 Thread Martin Doerr
e. Could be for CRMsoc. Best, Martin Anyhow just food for thought. Best, George ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- Dr. Martin Doerr

Re: [Crm-sig] Question: How to model a 'file'

2020-04-16 Thread Martin Doerr
ltiple use cases requiring different patterns. Anyhow, what do you think? Best, George ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center

Re: [Crm-sig] Question: How to model a 'file'

2020-04-16 Thread Martin Doerr
...in addition, we should think about digital images of printed material providing the identity of content for a lost physical item... On 4/16/2020 9:46 PM, Martin Doerr wrote: Dear George, You are right, this is an open and important question. I have repeatedly pointed to that issue in CRM

Re: [Crm-sig] Modelling the number of sheets used to print a book

2020-04-17 Thread Martin Doerr
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Re: [Crm-sig] Activity Partitioning (was Actors acting for other Actors)

2020-04-17 Thread Martin Doerr
__ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- ---- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer S

Re: [Crm-sig] Activity Partitioning (was Actors acting for other Actors)

2020-04-18 Thread Martin Doerr
lone 😊 Rob *From: *Crm-sig on behalf of Martin Doerr *Date: *Friday, April 17, 2020 at 10:15 AM *To: *"crm-sig@ics.forth.gr" *Subject: *Re: [Crm-sig] Activity Partitioning (was Actors acting for other Actors) Dear Robert, Very good remarks! but... I may say that this discus

Re: [Crm-sig] ISSUE: sequence of modelling steps (Modelling an Actor carrying...)

2020-04-20 Thread Martin Doerr
that does not offer an immediately satisfactory solution. Such discipline is helpful for the long-term quality of our Model, and saves a lot of time and misunderstandings in communication, in particular maintaining the right sequence of arguments. I therefore I make an ISSUE here: CRM-SIG should cre

Re: [Crm-sig] Modelling an Actor carrying out an action at the Behest of Another

2020-04-22 Thread Martin Doerr
collectivism that the we-mode approach involves is both conceptually and rational-functionally different from what an individualistic approach ("pro-group I-mode" approach) entails. -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics

Re: [Crm-sig] Modelling an Actor carrying out an action at the Behest of Another

2020-04-23 Thread Martin Doerr
.archives-ouvertes.fr/search/index/?qa[auth_t][]=Francesco+Beretta&sort=producedDate_tdate+desc> Message transféré Sujet : Re: [Crm-sig] Modelling an Actor carrying out an action at the Behest of Another Date : Wed, 22 Apr 2020 22:04:09 +0300 De :Martin Doerr Pour :

Re: [Crm-sig] [CRMarchaeo] E-vote for the label of A1 Excavation Process Unit

2020-04-27 Thread Martin Doerr
for not accepting, by May 7  2020. all the best Chryssoula ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of

[Crm-sig] Home Work, examples for P102 has title

2020-05-06 Thread Martin Doerr
d Mergentheim, Germany (E24) /has title/“Die Stuppacher Madonna” (E35) /has type/vernacular, popular title (E55) [The work has no known title from the artist. It is currently named             after its current place of exhibition] -- -------- Dr. Martin Do

[Crm-sig] ISSUE 483

2020-05-06 Thread Martin Doerr
comment. Best wishes, Martin -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH

Re: [Crm-sig] Introductions - Philippe Michon - Semantic Web Analyst at CHIN

2020-06-05 Thread Martin Doerr
27;information sur le patrimoine (RCIP) Ministère du Patrimoine canadien, Gouvernement du Canada 1030 chemin Innes, Ottawa (Ontario), K1B 4S7 philippe.mic...@canada.ca <mailto:philippe.mic...@canada.ca> Tél. : 613-998-3721 poste 225 ou 1-800-520-2446 *De :*George Bruseker *Envoyé :* 28 avril 20

Re: [Crm-sig] HW reminder - issue 481

2020-06-06 Thread Martin Doerr
remind you the HW about socP21 & socP22 of the issue 481 <http://cidoc-crm.org/Issue/ID-481-scope-notes-for-socp21-and-socp22>. all the best Chryssoula -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural I

Re: [Crm-sig] ISSUE 463: Scope note of E37 Mark

2020-06-11 Thread Martin Doerr
that are used in cultural documentation.  This class specifically excludes features that have no semantic significance, such as scratches or tool marks. These should be documented as instances of E25 Human-Made Feature. Best, Martin On 1/17/2020 6:22 PM, Martin Doerr wrote: Dear All,

[Crm-sig] ISSUE 450 HW

2020-06-15 Thread Martin Doerr
aws of physics" to exclude models such as discrete time. Best, Martin -- -------- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and

Re: [Crm-sig] version 7.0 of CIDOC CRM

2020-06-20 Thread Martin Doerr
cs.forth.gr --- ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- ---- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Compu

[Crm-sig] Homework: Issue_453.docx

2020-06-20 Thread Martin Doerr
Dear All, Here my proposal for Issue 453, related to CRM version 7.0 Best, martin -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foundation for

[Crm-sig] HW scope note of E59 Primitive Value

2020-06-24 Thread Martin Doerr
ich in turn is linked to **the actual encoded symbolic form**.* In a concrete application, it is recommended that the primitive value system from a chosen implementation platform and/or data definition language be used to substitute for this class and its subclasses. -- ----

Re: [Crm-sig] Issue 475 Example addition

2020-06-25 Thread Martin Doerr
ale. Rob -- Rob Sanderson ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural I

[Crm-sig] New Issue: Types for p2 has type

2020-06-25 Thread Martin Doerr
m-sig -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH) N.Plastira 100, Vassilika Vouton, GR

[Crm-sig] Home Work, P164

2020-06-25 Thread Martin Doerr
the nature of a spacetime volume within the temporal limits of the respective phenomenon. For instance, for describing the whereabouts of some person during a particular war period.* Best, Martin -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of

[Crm-sig] PLEASE NOTE: gmail behavior using crm-sig

2020-06-30 Thread Martin Doerr
the list by checking your sent mail. Best, Martin -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas

Re: [Crm-sig] CRMinf -> Belief Adoption

2020-07-06 Thread Martin Doerr
ts.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- -------- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Infor

[Crm-sig] NEW ISSUE CRMinf -> Belief Adoption

2020-07-08 Thread Martin Doerr
- MSH Val de Loire BP 60449 37204 TOURS cedex 03 02 47 36 15 06 http://citeres.univ-tours.fr/lat [3] http://masa.hypotheses.org [4] - DE: "Martin Doerr" À: "crm-sig" ENVOYÉ: Lundi 6 Juillet 2020 20:35:08 OBJET: Re: [Crm-sig] CRMinf -> Belief

[Crm-sig] NEW ISSUE: Scope Note of CRMinf -> Belief Adoption

2020-07-08 Thread Martin Doerr
et Territoires - Tours UMR 7324 - CITERES - MSH Val de Loire BP 60449 37204 TOURS cedex 03 02 47 36 15 06 http://citeres.univ-tours.fr/lat http://masa.hypotheses.org <http://masa.hypotheses.org/> -------- *De: *"Martin Doer

Re: [Crm-sig] CRMPC namespace

2020-07-11 Thread Martin Doerr
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[Crm-sig] Issue 499 change the cardinality of P160

2020-07-23 Thread Martin Doerr
iod or E18 Physical Thing are also contiguous in time. Instances of E93 Presence defined for an STV not contiguous in time, may or may not be contiguous in time depending where it "cuts through". Best, Martin -- -------- Dr. Martin Doerr

Re: [Crm-sig] Issue 499 change the cardinality of P160

2020-07-23 Thread Martin Doerr
...forgot: therefore the equivalence of P160 with P4 from E4 Period downwards is valid with cardinality (1,1:0,n) and compatible with general cardinality of P160 (1,n:0,n). M On 7/23/2020 1:06 PM, Martin Doerr wrote: Dear All, I'd like to add the reasoning about the following in issu

[Crm-sig] ISSUE: FOL for P170

2020-07-23 Thread Martin Doerr
x) ˄ P82(y,x) Meaning: the respective time-span is exactly ongoing and within the given time primitive. Best, Martin -- ---- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Comp

Re: [Crm-sig] Is P181 has amount different from P90 has value?

2020-08-20 Thread Martin Doerr
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Re: [Crm-sig] NEW ISSUE: Measurements and Dimensions

2020-09-09 Thread Martin Doerr
h.gr> > http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr <mailto:Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr> http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- Rob Sanderson Director for C

Re: [Crm-sig] NEW ISSUE: Measurements and Dimensions

2020-09-09 Thread Martin Doerr
tor for Cultural Heritage Metadata Yale University ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Cente

[Crm-sig] ISSUE: Modifying art objects

2020-09-13 Thread Martin Doerr
cuss the art object first. Opinions? Best, Martin Forwarded Message Subject:Modification Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2020 09:08:33 +0430 From: Maliheh Dorkhosh To: Martin Doerr Dear Martin My research is in the field of painting. The image of one of the paintings h

[Crm-sig] Example of P168

2020-09-18 Thread Martin Doerr
e /is defined by/ 10°27'52"N 66°30'02"W (E94) [west of the Observatory of Paris = 64°09'51"W of Greenwich, actually 1,1km east of today’s Plaza Andrés Eloy Blanco of Cumaná] Best, Martin -- -------- Dr. Martin Doerr

Re: [Crm-sig] Announcement for 48th crm-sig meeting

2020-09-22 Thread Martin Doerr
jusqu'au 16 décembre 2020 | François-Mitterrand *Avant d'imprimer, pensez à l'environnement.* ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- ----

Re: [Crm-sig] E-Vote: Change of Scope Note E10 Transfer of Custody (Issue 475)

2020-10-06 Thread Martin Doerr
th.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH) N.Plastira

Re: [Crm-sig] E-Vote ( Issue 508 ): First Order Logic Representation of p170

2020-10-06 Thread Martin Doerr
r Vice Chair CIDOC CRM SIG ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Infor

Re: [Crm-sig] Modelling Question: SP5 Geometric Place Expression and D1 Digital Object

2020-10-07 Thread Martin Doerr
ig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- -------- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Tech

Re: [Crm-sig] E Vote (Issue 404): Examples for E81-P123-P124

2020-10-07 Thread Martin Doerr
: "The death and the carbonization by the intense heat of a gas cloud (E69) of some people of Pompeii in 79AD resulted in petrified bodies that could later be preserved in plaster (E22) ." Martin -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary H

Re: [Crm-sig] Modelling Question: SP5 Geometric Place Expression and D1 Digital Object

2020-10-08 Thread Martin Doerr
ly. Maybe if we have time in the agenda at next SIG? I'd support that! Best Martin Best, George -- -------- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Compute

[Crm-sig] Events that did not take place.

2020-10-12 Thread Martin Doerr
17th 1874 (E7)  had general purpose Catching Moose (E55) (Activity type In First Order Logic:         P21(x,y) ⊃ E7(x)         P21(x,y) ⊃ E55(y) -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems

[Crm-sig] Examples for E9, P26, P25

2020-10-14 Thread Martin Doerr
The movement of the exhibition "Tutankhamun: Treasures of the Golden Pharaoh" between Sept 15 and Nov 2 2019 (E9) /moved from/Paris, Grande Halle de la Villette (E53) Best, Martin -- ---- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the C

[Crm-sig] Issue 484 more examples

2020-10-15 Thread Martin Doerr
chronology of the First Intermediate Period, and Assur is dated to "about 2500 BC”] Archaeologists should have more examples of relative chronology, e.g. by imported objects etc. Best, Martin -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the C

[Crm-sig] Issue 494 Scope Note Writing

2020-10-15 Thread Martin Doerr
and stand improvement. This does not necessarily mean to become more verbose. Multiple aspects proposed in these guidelines may be implicit or obvious in a simple phrase. Please comment Best, Martin -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of th

[Crm-sig] Issue 490

2020-10-16 Thread Martin Doerr
e will appear by the URI of a binary encoded file existing outside the knowledge base proper, or even a paper edition. -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Ins

[Crm-sig] ISSUE 442

2020-10-16 Thread Martin Doerr
parts, physically bound together or kept together for their functionality, regardless whether parts are lost, destroyed, or replaced by substitutes and regardless the duration of the process that brought them together into their identifying constellation.* -- ------

Re: [Crm-sig] Issue 503 HW: New examples for E13 Attribute Assignment (and E14 Condition Assessment)

2020-10-19 Thread Martin Doerr
/, 55(sup2), pp. 56–61. doi:_10.1179/sic.2010.55.Supplement-2.56_ <https://doi.org/10.1179/sic.2010.55.Supplement-2.56>. ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- --

Re: [Crm-sig] E Vote (Issue 404): Examples for E81-P123-P124

2020-10-19 Thread Martin Doerr
George Bruseker Vice Chair CIDOC CRM SIG ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- -------- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center

Re: [Crm-sig] ISSUE 442

2020-10-19 Thread Martin Doerr
in terms of what is exchanged in an acquisition event and how to describe declarative sets of things that are neither aggregates in the sense of E78 nor aggregates in the sense of E19. Look forward to the live discussion. Best, George On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 10:44 PM Martin Doerr <mai

Re: [Crm-sig] Issue 490

2020-10-19 Thread Martin Doerr
the job. Best, Martin 2) would this be a sub property of p190 and if not, why not? Best, George On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 9:53 PM Martin Doerr <mailto:mar...@ics.forth.gr>> wrote: Dear All, Here my trial for a property "P190 prime" : Pxxx has representa

Re: [Crm-sig] Issue 382 - when to stop documenting the provenance

2020-10-19 Thread Martin Doerr
forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- -------- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Technology

Re: [Crm-sig] Issue 490

2020-10-19 Thread Martin Doerr
bit-wise identity (checksum), and nothing else. But this touches issues of embedded metadata that are not our business. Cheers, martin Cheers, George On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 7:54 PM Martin Doerr <mailto:mar...@ics.forth.gr>> wrote: Hi George, On 10/19/2020 10:52 AM, George

[Crm-sig] Example for E81

2020-10-22 Thread Martin Doerr
ch <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_(building)>, dedicated to Saint George <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_George> around AD 700 [which actually helped preserving part of the antique temple structure from 449BC] best Martin -- ----

Re: [Crm-sig] Homework from Issue 486: Scope note of O19, O21

2020-10-27 Thread Martin Doerr
Director for Cultural Heritage Metadata Yale University ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- ---- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the C

[Crm-sig] NEW ISSUE: cardinality corrections with E93 Presence.

2020-10-30 Thread Martin Doerr
t, Martin -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH) N.Plastira 100, Vassil

Re: [Crm-sig] quantification of .1 properties

2020-11-18 Thread Martin Doerr
ce=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- ---- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of

Re: [Crm-sig] quantification of .1 properties

2020-11-18 Thread Martin Doerr
rth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig> -- Rob Sanderson Director for Cultural Heritage Metadata Yale University ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary

Re: [Crm-sig] mailing list

2020-12-08 Thread Martin Doerr
ter.com/krtstgc> Welcome to crm-sig! Martin -- ---- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Technolo

[Crm-sig] Issue Visual Item 3D

2020-12-10 Thread Martin Doerr
ical features of the depiction. -- -------- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH)

[Crm-sig] CALL FOR VOTE: NEW MEMBER

2021-01-26 Thread Martin Doerr
rther development and adoption of CIDOC-CRM. Delving will be represented at the CRM-SIG by Sjoerd Siebinga. With kinders regards, Sjoerd Siebinga (CEO) Delving B.V. De Ruijterstraat 82 2518 AW, Den Haag The Netherlands" PLEASE VOTE by Feb 10, 2021 YES or NO Martin Doerr Chair

[Crm-sig] Issue 294: E55 Type relations HW

2021-02-14 Thread Martin Doerr
ted to must overlap with both y and z. As a consequence, the minimal Spacetime Volume will be the intersection of all periods known to restrict X. Opinions? Best, Martin -- ---- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics

Re: [Crm-sig] Issue 294: E55 Type relations HW

2021-02-14 Thread Martin Doerr
/14/2021 11:24 PM, Martin Doerr wrote: Dear All, The issue 294 ended with this open question: "I suspect the cardinality is logically wrong again. If a type of thing is restricted to a period, it is not excluded for all its subperiods.Needs more thought." http://cidoc-crm.org/Issue/ID

[Crm-sig] ISSUE 480-ap14-justified-is-justification-of, HW

2021-02-15 Thread Martin Doerr
t> was concluded by: I5 Inference Making. J1 <#_J1_used_as>used as premise: I2 <#_S2_Sample_Taking>Belief("AP11 is TRUE") But I would *not *regard this as replacing the need for AP13.2 in CRMarcheo. All the best, Martin -- Dr. Ma

[Crm-sig] ISSUE 474, examples for CRMarchaeo AP13,AP14

2021-02-20 Thread Martin Doerr
](Hodder 1999) Best, Martin On 2/20/2021 8:03 PM, Martin Doerr wrote: ISSUE 474, Example of AP11 Dear All, Creating the examples for AP11 together with Athina Kritsotaki, I encountered a problem with the label. I propose to change: *OLD: AP11 has physical relation (is physical relation

[Crm-sig] NEW ISSUE: Modelling provenance of Intangible Heritage

2021-02-23 Thread Martin Doerr
------- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH) N.Plastira 100, Vassilika Vouto

[Crm-sig] Issue 474, scope note of AP11

2021-02-26 Thread Martin Doerr
5 <#_E55_Type> Type * * Best, Martin** -- -------- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH

[Crm-sig] Issue 447, Embedding as Rigid Physical Feature

2021-02-26 Thread Martin Doerr
be at rest relative to the instance of A2 <#_A2_Stratigraphic_Volume> Stratigraphic Volume Unit that contains the A7 <#_A7_Embedding> Embedding." I believe the relation to the stratigraphic unit would be quite cumbersome to make otherwise. Best, Martin -- ---

Re: [Crm-sig] Issue 474, scope note of AP11

2021-02-27 Thread Martin Doerr
"may be but is not limited to"? Best, Christian-Emil​ *From:* Crm-sig on behalf of Achille Felicetti *Sent:* 26 February 2021 22:39 *To:* Martin Doerr *Cc:* crm-sig *Subject:* Re: [Crm-sig] Issue 474, scope

Re: [Crm-sig] Issue 474, scope note of AP11

2021-02-27 Thread Martin Doerr
ake and induced: "earthquake-induced”. But native English speakers will certainly be more specific than me :-) The rest seems perfect to me. Ciao, Achille Il giorno 26 feb 2021, alle ore 21:54, Martin Doerr mailto:mar...@ics.forth.gr>> ha scritto: Dear All, Here my comprehensive

[Crm-sig] Issue 388 measuring position

2021-03-01 Thread Martin Doerr
... Opinions? To be discussed! Martin -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH

[Crm-sig] Issue 511

2021-03-02 Thread Martin Doerr
E70 Thing, E53 Place, E4 Period (or E2 Temp Entity). Extent CRMSci by E18, E4 IsA Observable Entity, and extend Mesaurement P40 observed dimension,from E18 to Observable Entity. Alternatively, introduce “Dynamic Measurement”in CRMSci. Best, Martin -- -------- D

Re: [Crm-sig] Question: How to model a 'file'

2021-03-02 Thread Martin Doerr
Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Technology

Re: [Crm-sig] Issue 511

2021-03-03 Thread Martin Doerr
31 PM Martin Doerr <mailto:mar...@ics.forth.gr>> wrote: ** *Posted by Robert Sanderson on 9/9/2020* I believe that there is an inconsistency in the model for measurements and dimensions. E54 Dimensions are associated directly with E70 Things using P43 has dime

[Crm-sig] New Official Version available

2021-03-03 Thread Martin Doerr
version will be presented in more detail in the next virtual SIG Meeting March 8, 2021, which I hope, many of you will attend. Best wishes, Martin -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information

Re: [Crm-sig] Issue 447, Embedding as Rigid Physical Feature

2021-03-05 Thread Martin Doerr
ignated issue (447 <http://www.cidoc-crm.org/Issue/ID-447-a7-embedding-as-a-physical-feature-like-entity>), not part of the editorial work. *From:* Crm-sig on behalf of Martin Doerr *Sent:* 26 February 2021 22:0

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