Re: [CTRL] Poor CIA
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-05-11 16:47:15 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: WASHINGTON (AP) -- The CIA may well see one of its biggest blunders turn into a budget boost. Lawmakers are blaming the mistaken bombing of the Chinese Embassy in Belgrade on an intelligence apparatus stretched thin. Yes, having to use those old maps must be what did it. Ironically, if you go back and re-read that article carefully, it makes clear that the CIA was using the PENTAGON's maps which were out of date -- yet the CIA gets the blame AND somehow the CIA (not the "poor Pentagon") gets more budget cash! Go figger ... DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Poor CIA
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-05-11 19:54:40 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: China can't do anything effective in retaliation, Oh, I dunno ... I think it'd be a good time (what with a semi-secret Chinese/N.Korean "mutual defense pact" in the offing) for China to (re)occupy Taiwan with ground troops, justifying this action in the same manner as the Serbs lay claim to Kosovo and NATO lays claim to whatever it wants despite international law. If China did that, I think we could say equally, "the US--" (or SEATO) "--can't do anything effective in retaliation." I'm watching the E. Asian beat and posting anything noteworthy here, so I hope you didn't miss the news that Japan has more or less agreed to turn a blind eye to Chinese actions vis-a-vis Taiwan -- yet the US is counting on Japan as being the "enforcer" of US interests in Asia. Japan has its own interests which are served by detente with China in a manner somewhat different from US detente with China. The US is employing its customary approach to possibly-nuclear N. Korea -- a big club in one hand and a bagful of money in the other -- but that bargaining stance falls apart if China extends the same giving hand with the other hand supportive, not threatening. IMHO, it's a highly volatile chessgame right now, and what the Balkans are for the Eastern Bloc (Serbs, Russia et al) Korea is for the West -- the place most likely to be where the shit hits the fan ... And by shit, I mean an appalling mishmash of militaristic hybris, desperation, political risk-taking, stupidity and incompetence in every process, and an ideological/cultural stubbornness that overwhelms rationality, such as we see at work in Kosovo. Starving nuclear-powered Communists COULD exhibit all the predictability of some wounded, cornered animal, prepared to die but unwilling to go down without taking others along with it. If we've learned ANYTHING from past wars --forget the retrospective glamorizing and glossing-over of motives, strategies, interests, etc., that's passed off as "history"-- it's that "war fever" is a PATHOLOGICAL state, wherein rational thinking and pragmatic behavior are the first casualties. Once you're in the quicksand, you only go deeper ... DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Power Elite
-Caveat Lector- The best management book I have ever read (and i have read a few) is the book called up the organisation by a Mr Townsend who was managing director of Avis. He made the point that( and reiterated in other books) that therole of top management was to sit like owls in the trees and whoot when things go wrong. their role is not to manage directly but to determine the environment. If you expect direct control from the elite you will find very little, but indirect you will see a lot. Also the firms on main street come and go but wall street remains foreverand they help decide(well assist market forces) which firms will prosper and which will decline by the availlability to finance Just a few examples-the rockerfeller empire never openly supported Hitler but provided and arranged the finance and industrial capacity. The transformation of america from a euro centred country to an mutli cultural internationalist has been achieved by stealth without a vote or any democratic agreement. I was talking last week to a man from mitsubishi(who control 10% of the Japanese GNP) and asked who controls the company... JP Morgan he responded. So now Japan will also be moved but stealthfully into a new direction. Most of the wars that america has fought since the second world war have been fought, not to achieve victory but to create a stalemate, a perpetual source of conflict(perpetual war for perpetual peace) that the elites can at any time move in the direction they would like. So if a long and bloody war can be arranged at any time that they want...against , the islamic great satan party, the pan slavic internationalist union, the running dogs of capitalism chinese communist army and your own home grown groups such as the atzlan liberation army, the aryan zebra occupied government militia, just say no to drugs warfare and the trenchcoat mafias . DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Trenchcoat Mafia Parents Pull a Ramsey
-Caveat Lector- According to a statement on MS-NBC tonight, the parents of "Trenchcoat Mafia" mastermind Eric Harris --the "military brat"-- have thus far REFUSED TO COOPERATE with police investigators, who STILL have not been able to question Mr and Mrs Harris ... DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: The UN Goes to Market
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-05-11 16:57:04 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What is clear is that the [UN] has picked shockingly poor corporate candidates for its partnership efforts. Most notable is Rio Tinto ... Rio Tinto, the Rothschilds' precious-metals holding company? DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Yeltsin Faces Impeachment THIS WEEK
-Caveat Lector- Yeltsin Fires Prime Minister By BARRY RENFREW .c The Associated Press MOSCOW (AP) -- President Boris Yeltsin fired Prime Minister Yevgeny Primakov today and replaced him with a longtime ally, plunging Russia into a major political crisis. Primakov's dismissal was a virtual declaration of war between Yeltsin and his opponents in the Communist-dominated Duma, the lower house of Parliament where Primakov has strong support. Opposition and government politicians warned that Yeltsin now faced a major fight for his own political survival. Although the Kremlin said Primakov was dismissed because of his failure to rescue Russia's foundering economy, the real reason appeared linked to Thursday's start of impeachment hearings against Yeltsin. ``Today I made a difficult decision,'' Yeltsin said in a statement announcing the dismissal. Primakov had done a good job restoring stability, but had failed to turn around the economy, Yeltsin said. Russia must press ahead with free-market reforms, he added, hinting that Primakov had not really backed this strategy. ``We have no right to put off making decisions that are necessary for the revival of the economy for another six months ... Delays and procrastination, I am sure, are the most serious blow today to stability in the economy and the social sphere,'' Yeltsin's statement said. Sergei Stepashin, the interior minister and a deputy prime minister, was nominated to replace Primakov and was named acting prime minister, the Kremlin said. Stepashin is a longtime Yeltsin loyalist who heads the country's police forces. Stepashin's nomination was sent to the Duma for approval, but it appeared very unlikely to pass. Yeltsin had long been unhappy about Primakov's success as premier and his broad political and popular support. The president has a history of dismissing subordinates who even appear to overshadow him. At the same time, Yeltsin has become extremely unpopular, both with parliament and among Russians as a whole. Political leaders warned that Primakov's dismissal would almost certainly guarantee that the Duma will vote this week to impeach the president. To remove Yeltsin from office, however, the impeachment motion must also be approved by two-thirds majorities of the upper chamber of parliament and the supreme and the constitutional courts -- which was considered unlikely before Primakov's sudden dismissal. ``I think the president made a gross error. Maybe it is his most serious mistake recently,'' said Duma Speaker Gennady Seleznyov. Vladimir Ryzhkov, head of the pro-government Our Home is Russia party, said Yeltsin had made a major blunder. ``Primakov had brought political stability to the country. This is a serious mistake by the president. He should have thought well before taking the step.'' Yeltsin faces five impeachment charges, including instigating the 1991 Soviet collapse, improperly using force against hard-line lawmakers in 1993, launching the botched 1994-96 war in Chechnya, ruining the nation's military and waging genocide against the Russian people by pursuing economic policies that impoverished the country. Yeltsin met with Primakov for about 20 minutes today at the Kremlin but no details about their talks were released. Primakov was named in September when Yeltsin dismissed Sergei Kiriyenko after the Russian economy was hit by the global crisis in emerging markets. Primakov has been given broad credit for stabilizing the political situation and halting some of Russia's economic decline, although he failed to come up with an economic rescue policy. He was also criticized for opposing liberal market reforms, saying the state should play as big a role in running the economy. Yeltsin can make three nominations for premier. If they are all rejected by the Duma, the president must then call new elections within three months. Yeltsin would govern by decree with a temporary prime minister during that period. The lawmakers are unlikely to accept any Yeltsin nominee for premier and could refuse to disband if Yeltsin attempts to dissolve the Duma. In 1993, Yeltsin sent tanks and troops against the Duma after it refused his order to disband and opposition supporters rioted in Moscow. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at:
[CTRL] N. Korea Says US is Provoking It
-Caveat Lector- US, S.Korea Accused of Provocations SEOUL, South Korea (AP) -- North Korea accused U.S. and South Korean forces on Wednesday of staging military provocations inside the tense demilitarized zone separating the two Koreas. The North's official Korean Central News Agency said U.S. and South Korean soldiers clandestinely deployed ``combat equipment'' at a guard post inside the border village of Panmunjom on Monday. More armed soldiers and military vehicles were spotted on a hill inside the village and about 10 illuminating flares were fired in ``deliberate and premeditated provocation,'' the KCNA said. In a separate border incident Monday, South Korean guards disturbed North Korean soldiers by pointing flashlights at a North Korean guard post, KCNA said. The U.S. military command called the North Korean charges ``an absolutely false report.'' ``It appears to be an attempt on the part of the North Koreans to raise tension,'' said spokeswoman Lee Ferguson. The North's communist government often accuses the South and United States of provoking military confrontations along the border and planning a northward invasion. Panmunjom is the sole crossing point between the two Koreas, which share the most heavily militarized border in the world. The two nations are still technically in a state of war because their 1950-53 war ended without a peace treaty. A contingent of U.S. and South Korean soldiers guard the southern half of the village under the U.N. flag. Soldiers inside the village are banned from carrying weapons heavier than side arms. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Serb Troops Invade Albania
-Caveat Lector- Deep Serb Incursion Into Albania By GREG MYRE .c The Associated Press BAJRAM CURRI, Albania (AP) -- Yugoslav troops fighting ethnic Albanian rebels swept over the border into Albania in one of their deepest incursions yet from Kosovo, international observers reported today. Witnesses also say a crashed Yugoslav MiG fighter, which was reportedly downed Tuesday at the height of the fighting, is on the Albanian side of the border near the village of Padesh, a spokesman for the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe said. The area is too dangerous to approach the plane, and there was no word on the fate of its crew. Fighting between Yugoslav forces and the rebel Kosovo Liberation Army raged all Tuesday well into nightfall. The sound of shells exploding on both sides of the border were heard in the northern town of Bajram Curri, and heavy plumes of smoke billowed into the air. Twenty Serb troops occupied the Albanian border village of Perroi I Thanes, OSCE spokesman Pier Gonggrijp said, quoting witnesses. Later Tuesday, 50 Yugoslav army troops clashed with KLA forces in another border village, Kasaj, said Gonggrijp. The volatile area is near a cross-border corridor through which the KLA has been sending troops and ammunition to reinforce their fighters in Kosovo, part of Yugoslavia's Serbia province. Some 40,000 Serb troops and special police are deployed in Kosovo, from where more than 750,000 ethnic Albanians have fled. Thirty wounded KLA fighters were hospitalized in Bajram Curri on Tuesday, and KLA sources said three others were killed in the fighting, ``This is the deepest penetration (by Serb forces) and the longest we have seen,'' said Gonggrijp, who has been in Bajram Curri since December. Shelling and cross-border incursions are routine in the area, but the fighting on Tuesday was exceptional. There was no word on Serb casualties or whether all the troops have withdrawn. According to local KLA commanders and police, the Serb MiG fighter bombed Padesh on Tuesday morning. As the plane approached, KLA fighters initially thought it was a NATO plane, didn't take cover and were bombed. The KLA and local police told Gonggrijp the Serb MiG was shot down by a NATO plane. There was no immediate comment from NATO headquarters in Brussels. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] China Nostalgic for Good Ol' Days of Korean War
-Caveat Lector- U.S. Films Casualties in China By JOE McDONALD .c The Associated Press SHANGHAI, China (AP) -- Private Ryan is out, and heroic Chinese fighting Americans in Korea are in. ``Saving Private Ryan'' and other U.S.-made films have been removed from Chinese cinemas, casualties of anger at NATO bombing of China's embassy in Yugoslavia. They have been replaced with Yugoslav films or documentaries about the 1950-53 Korean War, in which Chinese troops fought for North Korea against U.S.-led United Nations forces. ``During the widespread student protests, the company thought it was not the proper time to show any U.S.-made movies,'' said a manager at Guangdong Province Film Distribution Co. who would not give her name. Other casualties were the Will Smith thriller ``Enemy of the State,'' whose opening in Guangzhou last weekend was canceled, and the Disney cartoon ``Mulan,'' taken off some Beijing screens. State-owned film distributors in Beijing, Shanghai and Guangzhou said they decided on their own Saturday to cancel U.S. films. The China Film Distribution and Broadcasting Association later issued a letter urging other distributors to do the same, said Ma Shijun, an official of the association. Some theaters in Beijing replaced American movies with Yugoslav-made movies, Ma said. Beyond its symbolism, a ban on U.S. films has only a limited impact. Despite the popularity of ``Titanic'' and other films, China lets in only about 10 foreign titles a year to protect its own industry. In Guangzhou, capital of Guangdong, ``Saving Private Ryan'' was replaced with two Korean War documentaries -- ``Attack Invaders'' from the 1950s and 1997's ``Trial of Strength.'' The choice reflects the parallels seen by China's leaders between Yugoslavia and events a generation ago in Korea: a fellow socialist underdog resisting unjustified American-led aggression. Many of today's senior Chinese military men were in uniform during the Korean War, which left a deep mark on the psyche of the influential People's Liberation Army. Many generals still regard the United States with distrust. The trend toward more patriotic fare extends to television. On Saturday, as protesters stoned the U.S. Embassy in Beijing, state TV showed ``Hero Sons and Women,'' a black-and-white Korean War movie from the 1950s. Shanghai television this week showed ``The Bridge,'' a Yugoslav film about Josip Tito's resistance forces in World War II fighting the Nazis. It wasn't clear when American films would return to Chinese screens. ``We will resume showing U.S. films as soon as the Chinese people are satisfied with the explanation and apology of NATO and the United States,'' said the Guangdong manager. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Hague Anti-War Conference
-Caveat Lector- Peace Advocates Gather in The Hague THE HAGUE, Netherlands (AP) -- Peace advocates are gathering this week to promote a 21st century without war, launching campaigns against nuclear weapons, child soldiers and small arms. Some 5,000 participants -- including Nobel laureates, religious leaders, and the U.N. secretary-general -- will meet in the Netherlands for a four-day conference beginning today to discuss how to create ``a culture of peace'' in the new millennium. The conference is launching several political campaigns including efforts to stop the use of child soldiers, nuclear weapons and small arms. Two other new programs will promote education about peace and raise support for the permanent international criminal court. The Washington-based Worldwatch Institute also hopes the conference will produce a peace proposal for the Balkans. Special sessions on the crisis in the Yugoslav province of Kosovo have been added to the schedule. The Hague Appeal for Peace Conference commemorates the 100th anniversary of the First International Peace Conference, an 1899 meeting that sought to avert violence in the 20th Century. The 1899 meeting was called by Russian Czar Nicholas II, who feared German aggression and hoped to avert danger. Worldwatch estimates that by 1995, 110 million people had died in war. ``There are no guarantees for a different outcome, but there is more political space and open discussion about what can be done,'' said Michael Renner, a senior researcher at Worldwatch. ``Just the experience of the 20th century can be seen as a warning. We have to pay closer attention to the root causes of conflict.'' U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan, Queen Noor of Jordan, Archbishop Desmond Tutu of South Africa, Jose Ramos-Horta of East Timor and John Hume of Northern Ireland are among those planning to attend. One Nobel laureate who will not attend is Myanmar's pro-democracy leader, Aung San Suu Kyi. In a tape due to be played at the conference, Suu Kyi said that a life without peace was not worth living. Life in military-ruled Myanmar, also known as Burma, is like a ``battlefield'' where human rights are constantly abused, she said. ``When we talk of peace we cannot avoid talking about human rights, especially in a country like Burma where the people are troubled constantly by the lack of justice, by the lack of peace,'' she said. Myanmar has been run by the military for decades. In 1990, the junta refused to recognize elections that gave Suu Kyi's party a landslide victory. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Poor CIA
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 05/11/1999 7:54:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So the CIA didn't have a Michelin guide to Beograd around. It happens. And they didn't have any "assets on the ground" (ie spies) to walk up to the building ahead of time to make sure it *was* an arms depot. It happens. Did the CIA blow its budget on LSD experiments instead of maps and spies and other mundane stuff? Bother... But in the long run, it really doesn't matter. China can't do anything effective in retaliation, just add this incident to a long list of grievances against the outside world - "Those Westerners are always picking on us, it isn't fair!!" You're right. It happens. And with our CIA, it happens with amazing frequency. Remember the reports about how the Soviets had all the assets and weaponry, and would start WWIII. Our CIA is so ineffective they have become a worldwide joke. These are the people who told Clinton to bomb that pill factory in Sudan. These are the guys our country depends on for intelligence (what a laugh) to establish our relations with other countries. These are the guys who tell us where the targets are. Buy any boy scout troop a new compass, and they will be able to do a better job. These are the guys who test mind control drugs on any passing American citizen they can get in their sights. These are the guys who sat so comfortably for years and years with one of their own happily passing the lists of our agents to foreign governments (for money), with no one noticing a thing. This is the outfit that former president Geoge Bush headed. Of course he was "out of the loop." Yeah, let's not worry. Be happy. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Collateral Goals
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 05/12/1999 1:31:47 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ''There's no one left, it's time for peace,'' a high U.S. military officer said Monday with sarcasm. Everyone has to know what's going on in Kosovo. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that the outside world is assisting Milosovich boot Moslems out of Europe. NATO has to be on his side. The bombing of large public buildings (probably in bad repair) in Beograd isn't a move really designed to deter his actions. We've given him every assistance he could possibly want in taking Kosovo. If the war extends into Albania, and we allow him to take that country too, then the West will finally have achieved its goal of ridding Europe of Moslems. Gee, then they can start working on getting them out of the Middle East. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Poor CIA
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 05/12/1999 3:52:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ironically, if you go back and re-read that article carefully, it makes clear that the CIA was using the PENTAGON's maps which were out of date -- yet the CIA gets the blame AND somehow the CIA (not the "poor Pentagon") gets more budget cash! Go figger Yes Goat, but I'm not sure they were using the Pentagon's latest maps. It wouldn't be the first time one outfit gave another outfit outdated material. One of the most important things (believe it or not) that a military can have is "good administration." That's the working administration I'm talking about. The people who keep the paper work current, flowing and workable. Unfortunately those who do this work are treated like pond scum and as a result no one willingly enters that field, stays with that field, or fights for good procedures. The military has shot itself in the foot, and I'm sure the CIA has done the same. A few more generals and a few more pre-presidential leaders should take them both down the hill even faster than they're going now. If you've noticed, they've both been failing since the early sixties. If they were going down before that, they weren't so obvious about it that passers by like me noticed it. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Bubonic Plague Confirmed in Namibia
-Caveat Lector- If you read the last paragraph there is says it wiped out nearly one-third of the population... Hmmm isn't that what the NWO elitist want to do now? Interesting... I know they say there is a cure for the plague now, but who will it be available for? Jamie Bubonic Plague Confirmed in Namibia Monday, May 10, 1999; 12:14 p.m. EDT WINDHOEK, Namibia (AP) -- Local medical authorities confirmed Monday an outbreak of bubonic plague in Namibia's populous north-central region that has killed three of the 73 people with the disease. Dr. Naftali Hamata of the Namibian health ministry said tests done at the South African Institute for Medical Research last week showed that six of 11 samples sent for analysis proved positive for bubonic plague. He said the other five cases may also still prove positive, but more testing must be done. ``Even though not all of them are confirmed to have the disease, we are taking no chances and testing everyone,'' he said. Bubonic plague, also known as the Black Death, killed an estimated 25 million people in Europe between 1346 and 1351, wiping out nearly one-third of the population. The disease is transmitted by fleas infecting rats which in turn infect humans. If left untreated, it can kill within three to five days. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Urantia
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 5/11/99 10:31:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: sounds like a lot of bullshit to me! Yes..this is the response of the majority of those that hear of the Urantia book. But remember..the majority isn't always right! Kinda DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Urantia
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Kinda Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 1999 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Urantia -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 5/11/99 10:31:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: sounds like a lot of bullshit to me! Yes..this is the response of the majority of those that hear of the Urantia book. But remember..the majority isn't always right! Most people just aren't ready for the Urantia book. Joe DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Gold Conspiracy? # 2
TUESDAY / MAY 11, 1999 Trouble in the gold market? Analysts see move to manipulate prices By Jon E. Dougherty © 1999 WorldNetDaily.com Whether influenced by uncertainties stemming from Y2K or because global financial markets took a dramatic turn for the worst, most gold analysts agree that 1998 was a "record year" for sales. So far, in 1999, record buying has not subsided, according to the U.S. Treasury, and most gold brokers and retailers say there is no sign of a buying slowdown anytime soon from the private sector. However, recent investor activity in the gold market suggests there may be a move to illegally influence prices. In fact, entire nations, such as Great Britain, are poised to release hundreds of tons of gold into the market over the next few years in a move some believe is an attempt to artificially deflate gold prices and possibly to de-emphasize gold as a valuable commodity. Beginning July 6, the Bank of England will begin selling over half of Britain's present gold stocks, or 415 tons, which is currently worth about $6.5 billion (U.S.). Last week, when the bank made the announcement, it stunned gold dealers and traders all over the world, resulting in the price of gold falling to below $280 an ounce -- its lowest price in recent years. It was this announced sell-off, as well as several previous disturbing gold market reports, that prompted the formation of GATA -- the Gold Antitrust Action Committee -- and a potential antitrust lawsuit aimed at breaking up the alleged control over gold market prices. GATA has retained noted antitrust and securities law firm specialist, Berger Montague of Philadelphia, in order to assist in its investigation into the alleged manipulation of the gold market. Bill Murphy, chairman of GATA, told WorldNetDaily, "I've been a trader for 25 years, and I began noticing that the gold market was just not trading the way it was supposed to." He said that when gold reached the $295-300 per ounce range, "I began noticing that the market price for gold would always stop (at a certain level), lose, then come right back" to the previous level -- but never higher. That didn't follow the established rules of supply and demand, he explained. "At about that time, we heard that (gold) producers were going around offering credit terms in South Africa to foreign producers in different countries at unheard-of credit terms, if they would just 'sell forward'" -- or put supply in the marketplace. He said GATA also received a number of reports that "officialdom" in the U.S. were asking officials in Asia not to aggressively buy gold. These two incidents were occurring simultaneously, Murphy said. The only explanation that makes sense, he said, was that somebody is trying to keep gold prices down. Other government and market analysts who were following the same gold trends, said Murphy, "were told to 'tone down' their reports," in an effort, he says, to conceal other investment activity based on lower gold prices. Murphy said he initially brought his concerns to other experts -- some of whom eventually became GATA members -- and they agreed it was possible that antitrust violations may have materialized within the gold market. The GATA chairman said the essence of the issue rests with the number of "gold loans" currently out versus the annual output of gold from the world's combined producers. "Right now, we feel the total gold loans amount to about 8,000 to 10,000 tons. But mine supply, or annual production, is only about 2,529 tons. Consequently, we think the speculators -- the gold-borrowing crowd -- are borrowing gold at just one percent interest rates versus the 8 to 10 percent they'd have to take to borrow money at a bank." He sees "collusion" among producers and speculators to keep the price of gold artificially depressed in order to obtain cheap loans on money used for other investments. "Basically, they're getting interest-free money to invest in Wall Street for free," he explained. "So hedge funds like Long Term Capital Management, who got in trouble last year for doing this same thing with the Japanese Yen, and all of these investment people in New York are borrowing gold and investing it. That's fine, as long as the gold price doesn't go up." Murphy said the advantages to doing this were obvious. "Say these people borrow gold at $290 an ounce but end up having to pay it back at, say, $320 an ounce, the cheap loan suddenly becomes an expensive loan." He told WorldNetDaily that recently the price of gold was set to go above $290 an ounce, "which we feel has been the borrowing price for about the past year or so." But when he publicly questioned where the supply of gold was going to come from, within a day the Bank of England announced they were going to sell over half of their gold inventory. "That came out of nowhere," Murphy said. "Why would the Bank of England do that --
[CTRL] Fwd: DRUDGE-REPORT-EXCLUSIVE 5/11/99
X DRUDGE REPORT EXCLUSIVE X TUESDAY, MAY 11, 1999 22:59:49 UTC X WILLEY SUSPECTS STATE DEPT DEPUTY'S BROTHER-IN-LAW PART OF INTIMIDATION CAMPAIGN **Exclusive Details** Earlier this year, ABC NEWS hotshot reporter Jackie Judd showed presidential accuser Kathleen Willey a picture of a man. Judd was developing a story about an incident she was first to reveal about the morning Willey was spooked by a stranger -- a stranger that knew too many details about her private life. A stranger that approached her just two days before she was to tell a grand jury about what Bill Clinton did to her in the White House. "Is this the man who approached you that morning?" Judd asked Willey. The DRUDGE REPORT can now reveal that Willey was shown a picture of Cody Shearer -- the brother-in-law of Deputy Secretary of State Strobe Talbott and long-time friend of President Bill Clinton! Judd has not filed a report on what Willey told her that day, but Willey did open up to CNBC's Chris Matthews in an interview that aired on Tuesday night. Willey unloaded details of her run-in with a man: "I was walking with my three dogs, and I saw this man coming toward me... He called me by name, 'Kathleen, did you ever find your cat?' he asked. 'No, I have not, and we really miss him,' I told him. 'Did you ever get those tires fixed on your car?' he asked. The hair on my neck started to stand on end... He asked me about my children by name." Willey told Matthews that she can ID the man as being one of the president's associates. The twin brother of Deputy Secretary of State Strobe Talbott's wife, Brooke Shearer, has been at the center of controversy since Bill Clinton has been president -- but he has remained mostly out of the headlines. Cody Shearer, a self-styled "conflict mediator", is alleged to have had cozy relations with Investigative Group International, using their office databases and hob-nobbing with operatives, according to reports in VANITY FAIR and the NEW YORK POST last summer. In 1992, Shearer is reported to have encouraged Terry Lenzner, head of IGI, to investigate an alleged affair between then-President George Bush and the State Department's Jennifer Fitzgerald, and allegations of marijuana use by Dan Quayle. After he was approached by Cody Shearer, long time Clinton ally Terry Lenzner offered to help an Oklahoma Indian tribe, rejected for a gambling license, investigate the private life of Rep. Don Nickles [R-OK] and his family. Shearer's primary White House chum is Sidney Blumenthal, according to reports. During a press conference earlier this year, HUSTLER magazine owner Larry Flynt told the DRUDGE REPORT that he considered Shearer a "very good friend." [Flynt had confided in friends that Talbott and Shearer were helping sift through information during his investigation into the private lives of congressmen and other elected officials. A claim strongly denied.] Most recently, Shearer was accused of engaging in secret peace negotiations with representatives of Bosnian Serb leader Radovan Karadzic, an indicted war crimes suspect. Cody Shearer could not be reached for comment. Willey is set to appear on CNN's LARRY KING LIVE later this week. X X X X X CHINA: YOU'LL PAY US BACK WITH POLICY CHANGES China expects the U.S. to make significant concessions on sensitive military, trade and diplomatic issues as payback for last weekend's NATO bombing of China's embassy in Belgrade, the FINANCIAL TIMES is reporting on Wednesday. China is seeking conciliatory measures from the U.S., including dismissing allegations that a Chinese spy passed U.S. nuclear secrets to China. FT reporters James Harding and Steven Fidler quote a senior foreign policy advisor to Chinese President Jiang Zemin: "It is now up to the U.S... to take the initiative to get the relationship back to normal." The paper outlines the said conditions. Just as... INVESTIGATORS SUSPECT CHINA MOVED TEN OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THROUGH U.S. BANK TO PAY FOR SPYING OPERATIONS The NY TIMES breaks with a fresh Page One of its own on Wednesday: Tens of millions of dollars have flowed from China into a small American bank -- and U.S. investigators suspect that it to pay for spying operations! MORE... The TIMES' Jeff Gerth keeps up the pace -- a pace he alone has set, sans Bill Gertz at the WASH TIMES -- with an exclusive built on confidential Government documents and interviews. Late in the spring of 1996, federal bank examiners discovered that the central bank of China moved more than $92 million into the United States, depositing it in a maze of accounts controlled by a fast-rising Chinese executive at a small California bank, Gerth and TIMES Tim Golden reveal. "The purpose of the money remains a mystery. Some federal officials now suspect that it might have been intended to pay for Chinese intelligence operations. Others believe that it could have been amassed for political
[CTRL] Fwd: Re: SNET: : brown and root contract in balkans
from: http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/45012/950109-95-000954.txt NOTICE OF ANNUAL MEETING OF STOCKHOLDERS TO BE HELD MAY 16, 1995 The Annual Meeting of Stockholders of HALLIBURTON COMPANY, a Delaware corporation (the "Company"), will be held on Tuesday, May 16, 1995, at 9:00 a.m., in the Parisian Room of the Fairmont Hotel, 1717 N. Akard, Dallas, Texas 75201, to consider and act upon the matters discussed in the attached proxy statement as follows: 1. To elect ten (10) Directors to serve for the ensuing year and until their successors shall be elected and shall qualify. snip INFORMATION WITH RESPECT TO NOMINEES FOR DIRECTOR ANNE L. ARMSTRONG, 67, Chairman of Board of Trustees, Center [PHOTOfor Strategic and International Studies, Washington, D.C.; APPEARS former Chairman of the President's Foreign Intelligence Advisory HERE] Board, 1981-1990; former Ambassador to Great Britain; joined Halliburton Company Board in 1977; Chairman of the Environment, Health and Safety Committee and member of the Management Oversight and Nominating Committees; Director of American Express Company, Boise Cascade Corporation, General Motors Corporation and Glaxo p.l.c. [Anne Legendre Armstrong, Dec. 27, 1927 Born, New Orleans, LA; Anne Armstrong was named Counsellor to the President with Cabinet rank by Richard Nixon in 1973, becoming the first woman to hold that position. She remained as Counsellor when Ford took office, providing assistance in established areas of responsibility as well as assuming new roles in the Ford White House. She resigned in December, 1974 because of family health problems which entailed a return to Texas, but she continued to serve in several posts during the following year. In 1976, Ford appointed her Ambassador to Great Britain and considered her a possible vice-presidential running mate. 1976-1977 U.S. Ambassador to the Court of St. James (United Kingdom)] LORD CLITHEROE, 65, Chairman, The Yorkshire Bank, PLC; Deputy [PHOTOChief Executive, The RTZ Corporation PLC (an international group APPEARS of mining and industrial companies), 1987-1989; Executive HERE] Director, The RTZ Corporation PLC, 1968-1987; joined Halliburton Company Board in 1987; Chairman of the Management Oversight Committee and member of the Environment, Health and Safety and Nominating Committees. PAGE ROBERT L. CRANDALL, 59, Chairman, President and Chief [PHOTOExecutive Officer, AMR Corporation and Chairman and Chief APPEARS Executive Officer, American Airlines, Inc. (engaged primarily in HERE] the air transportation business) since 1985; President, American Airlines, Inc., 1985-1995; joined Halliburton Company Board in 1986; Chairman of the Audit Committee and member of the Compensation and Management Oversight Committees; Director of AMR Corporation and American Airlines, Inc. THOMAS H. CRUIKSHANK, 63, Chairman of the Board and Chief [PHOTOExecutive Officer of the Company; President and Chief Executive APPEARS Officer of the Company, 1983-1989; joined Halliburton Company HERE] Board in 1977; Director of Goodyear Tire and Rubber Company and The Williams Companies, Inc. WILLIAM R. HOWELL, 59, Chairman of the Board, J.C. Penney [PHOTOCompany, Inc. (a major retailer); Chairman of the Board and APPEARS Chief Executive Officer, J.C. Penney Company, Inc., 1983-1994; HERE] joined Halliburton Company Board in 1991; Chairman of the Compensation Committee and member of the Management Oversight and Audit Committees; Director of J.C. Penney Company, Inc., Exxon Corporation, Warner-Lambert Company, Bankers Trust Company and Bankers Trust New York Corporation. DALE P. JONES, 58, President of the Company; Executive Vice [PHOTOPresident -- Oil Field Services of the Company, 1987-1989; APPEARS Senior Vice President of the Company, 1987; joined Halliburton HERE] Company Board in 1988; Director of Keystone International, Inc. C. J. SILAS, 62, Chairman of the Board and Chief Executive [PHOTOOfficer (retired), Phillips Petroleum Company (engaged in APPEARS exploration and production of crude oil, natural gas and natural HERE] gas liquids on a worldwide basis, the manufacture of plastics and petrochemicals and other activities), 1985-1994; joined Halliburton Company Board in 1993; member of the Compensation, Audit and Management Oversight Committees; Director of Comsat Corporation and Reader's Digest Association,
Re: [CTRL] Urantia
-Caveat Lector- Joe, I've been "a reader" of The In a message dated 99-05-12 09:40:23 EDT, you write: In a message dated 5/11/99 10:31:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: sounds like a lot of bullshit to me! Yes..this is the response of the majority of those that hear of the Urantia book. But remember..the majority isn't always right! Most people just aren't ready for the Urantia book. Joe DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] OEN 5/12/99
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.aci.net/kalliste/ A HREF="http://www.aci.net/kalliste/"The Home Page of J. Orlin Grabbe/A - Today's Lesson From Big Dragon by Daniel Burstein and Arne De Keijzer It is a hot, humid August night in Beijing in 1995... We have invited the editors of a new Chinese magazine called Strategy and Management to dinner... Over drinks, we peruse the contents. It becomes clear that this is a magazine with a very distinct edge. The first photograph accompanying the first article is one of Vietnam War vintage: the famous image, rarely seen these days, of Phan Thi Kim Phuc, a nine-year-old girl running naked from a village after an American napalm bomb attack. This picture, worth much more than the proverbial thousand words in identifying the magazine's editorial stance, is accompanied by other oddities, the most incomprehensible of which is a twenty-three-page article by Lyndon LaRouche, the American political extremist (once of the "Left," now of the "Right"), who argues that China's present course of economic reform--and foreign investment in particular--will destroy the country. This we find truly surprising. Over dinner, we ask: "...Give us an example of one of the trends about the future you have identified." The reply was instantaneous and sure: "That the United States will become the enemy of China." = Money Laundering Chinese Cash Funneled Through Small California Bank by Tim Golden and Jeff Gerth Late in the spring of 1996, federal bank examiners discovered that the central bank of China was moving tens of millions of dollars into the United States, depositing it in a maze of accounts controlled by a fast-rising Chinese executive at a small California bank. The regulators struggled for almost two years to understand the transactions, guessing finally that they might have been intended to hide the private fortunes of Chinese officials. They turned their findings over to the Justice Department, the State Department and the FBI, but officials said no legal or diplomatic action was ever taken in the case. But only in recent months, prodded by Congressional investigators, have U.S. officials started fitting together some of the most significant pieces of the story. The banker in California, Nan Nan Xu, turned out to have a series of ties to a Chinese military officer who has been identified as the conduit for at least $300,000 sent from the military's intelligence chief to a Democratic fund-raiser, officials said. And almost half of the $92 million that eventually flowed from China into the California bank, Far East National, came from a Hong Kong investment firm controlled in part by two men who American officials say have been associated with Chinese intelligence agencies. The purpose of the money remains a mystery. Some federal officials now suspect that it might have been intended to pay for Chinese intelligence operations. Others believe that it could have been amassed for political contributions or to purchase sensitive military technology. And officials do not rule out that it could be related to legitimate business dealings. But a close look at the case, based on interviews and confidential Government documents, shows that the Clinton administration was slow to pursue or even pull together the disparate leads uncovered over several years by different agencies. The discovery of the Chinese money flow was the sort of information that typically sets off alarms among government investigators and the bank examiners alerted Justice Department officials early on. But officials said the department initially gave the matter only a cursory review, even as it was separately searching elsewhere for evidence of Chinese contributions to American political campaigns. Federal prosecutors in Los Angeles examined the case last year, but then referred it back to the Justice Department in July, asking that its international-affairs section determine whether the transactions might involve criminal activity in China. A law enforcement official said the case was investigated further, but declined to say how. A spokesman for the Justice Department, Myron Marlin, would not comment on the inquiry but he said the department was "vigorously pursuing every credible allegation that has come our way." The State Department also agreed last year to consider raising the issue with officials in Beijing, but then decided against it, officials said. The FBI -- which had helped Ms. Xu, a Chinese national, to gain legal residency in the United States in 1992 and then tried unsuccessfully to recruit her as an informer -- paid relatively little attention to her in the years when her banking activities became suspect, several officials said. "She just fell off the screen," one federal investigator familiar with the case said. Critics of the administration contend that the handling of the inquiry reflects a
[CTRL] Golden Capstone to be placed upon Great Pyramid on Dec.31,1999
-Caveat Lector- from alt.conspiracy - As always, Caveat Lector. Om K - A HREF="aol://5863:126/alt.conspiracy:522192"Golden Capstone to be placed upon Great Pyramid on Dec.31,1999 /A - Subject: Golden Capstone to be placed upon Great Pyramid on Dec.31,1999 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hov888) Date: Tue, May 11, 1999 11:18 PM Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Stick with me here. From Michael Howard's "The Occult Conspiracy" I quote: "In occultism the truncated pyramid represents the loss of the Ancient Wisdom which occurred when the Christian Church achieved political power and began to repress the old pagan religions which were driven underground into secret societies. In Ancient Egypt, when the pyramids were used as initiation chambers, each pyramid had a special capstone make either from natural crystal or an alloy of precious metal. This capstone attracted cosmic rays and occult forces which created the right conditions for the initiate inside the pyramid's inner chamber to experience spiritual illumination. Symbolically on the Great Seal the eye in the triangle represents the missing capstone which now only exists on a metaphysical level." According to reports George Bush, Sr. among other world leaders will be at the Great Pyramid in Egypt on Dec. 31 for a special millenium ceremony, at which a GOLDEN CAPSTONE will be placed upon the pyramid. Would anyone hazard a guess as to whom the initiate/ initiates might be who will be within the capstone to harvest the occult forces gathered therein? Looks like somebody is walking out of that pyramid with the vision and power to lead the masses straight to hell. - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End Kris DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Bubonic Plague Confirmed in Namibia
-Caveat Lector- Bubonic Plague - back in 1968 I remember reading about a King of England who brought back gunpowder to England, etc., and it was destroyed. This Black Death hit at the same time, and I remember thinking wonder where they dumped all that gun powder, in the water? I know what they say Bubonic Plague is; but after this Black Death, suddenly the historian wrote that it was as if God responded.suddenly, multiple births. When I looked up the ingredients in gun powder, at the time it seemed to be used in other substancesand today, look at the multiple births, from taking certain pills. Thalimonide (misspelled), caused deformities; well, we have cattle now being born without limbs, three eyes, etc. Bubonic Plague or the Black Death.suddenly, hits 1/3 of the worldthe star hitting the water in the Revelations, was wormwoodit poisoned the water.could our English Kings have poisoned the people for birth control purposes.another as Jeanne Dixon would have said needed "cleansing period" where the "filth and garbage" are removed. Well, if this be the case; lets start in Hollywood and the TV news media..no wonder David Koresch was trying to tell us something, and got killed doing it - along with at least a third of his followers, or more. We hold these truths to be self evident; that our constitution does not call for Genocide, but the Kings version of the King James Bible, does.so much for the National Council of Churches. Anyone out there - my experts - who can tell me why during the Black Death, all those people had multiple births after the plague hit? Was this God's revenge upon the assassins. Or does anyone remember when Prince Phillip of Greece, who married Elizabeth the Queen (you will find Philip and Elizabeth mentioned in Daniel and the Bible, of course) - does anyone remember when Prince Philip said people "get like rats" when they are crowded? I domany years ago, and what do you do to ratsyou find a Pied Piper, to lead them to their deaths with music, and as an added feature - well they call that paying the Piper, do they not. When the Black Death hit, it was said that more people died from the fear of it. However, one thing I still remember, a man living in Lancaster, Ohio, who had ordered Bubonic Plague germs from lab, and without question, same was forwarded. Was this done to instill fear into the public's mind; or to put them on Guard. Remember one thing in particularand this is most important.the CIA, NATO representative, Pentagon, they all answer to the President of the United States "Neither will they repent of their murders or sorceries"..I had this quote picked out for the Manson family, before they found themas the Manson family, in particular Charles Jesus Manson, who shot the Judge secret Masonic signals during his trial.used a bible code..even Charles Manson knew what his government had waiting for them...and that is why his followers, remember one had a father at the Pentagon and another at NASA.took revengerather like Littleton in a sense.the experimenters and experimentees. Render unto Ceasar that which is Caesars.or pay your taxes, and be sure your government uses it for services to the public Render unto God that which is Godswell, !0% was Billy Graham's request so you see some of these people have not taken the poverty oath. Now the Bubonic Plague is mild compared to what Bill Clinton and the NATO bunch has in mind, along with Butcher Albrightbut remember this, where did the fleas, get the plague? Or like mosquitoes, do they just carry another form of AIDSbut then, where did the mosquitoes get the virus. What is going on today is mass murder, and the only reason the nazi element in our society gets away with it, is people are now being fed garbage usually fed to the swineand letting the government under the bill of rights, protect the sinister forces killing the kids. We pay our government to provide services, and our President sets the policiesno where in the Constitution does it give him the right to murder innocent people in the name of genocide in biblical proportion; that is not what this hired hand, is there fore. But remember too, evidently this is what the Rhodes Scholars and Oxford, is all bout.Prince Philips rats, and how to get rid of them. Think I am wrongcheck the bible, the family tree of the Kings and Queens, which must have been written by a tabloid expert of the day, who set not a profile in courage, but a profile in murder of the Kings and Queens and exposes them all As Mordecai so wished upon Hammon, so let it come upon Mordecai. Now what role in the bible do you think Bill Clinton is playing? And what will his ultimate end be, and name in history if not completely blotted out, reveal. Colleen DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list.
[CTRL] The Hidden History of the War Against Yugoslavia
-Caveat Lector- from alt.conspiracy - As always, Caveat Lector. Om K - A HREF="aol://5863:126/alt.conspiracy:522188"The Hidden History of the War Against Yugoslavia /A - Subject: The Hidden History of the War Against Yugoslavia From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, May 11, 1999 3:29 PM Message-id: 89b83ca0[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Hidden History of the War Against Yugoslavia Via NY Transfer News Collective * All the News that Doesn't Fit source: William F Hagel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Friends, I hope we will still be friends after this very long e-mail. If it were not for the devastating US/NATO attack on Yugoslavia and human suffering on both sides, I would not be moved to share these two articles with my list of friends. I wrote the first article out of a sense of outrage at the massive manipulation of our natural and healthy compassion for the suffering of innocent civilians by a government that has and still is inflicting suffering on innocent populations for political/ideological ends. My purpose is to demonstrate that whatever the motives for this heartless bombing, humanitarian concern is not one of them. The second article by Dave Stratman picks up where mine leaves off by offering information relating to two other official reasons for this military intervention, the lack of any other alternative in dealing with Milosevic and the preservation of stability in the region. If Stratman's information is accurate the questions are why didn't the US throw its considerable weight behind the democratic opposition for a popular overthrow of Milosevic and is a stability gained by military intervention prefered over one gained by a victory of democratic forces? April 24, 1999 HUMANITARIAN? The United States government and its NATO junior partners claim they were forced to bomb Yugoslavia out of humanitarian concern for the victims of Milosevic's dictatorship. Because this is the main rational for what would be condemned as an outright criminal attack on a country with which we are not at war, it is important to examine this claim of humanitarian concern going beyond the rhetoric to actual deeds. At the early start of the Cold War, upon reports (rumors?) that the Indonesian Communist Party was planning a revolt, the Indonesian military with the support of the CIA carried out a preemptive campaign in which upwards of one million people were massacred. Anyone on the CIA's list of suspected communists was systematically eliminated without due process. It is incredibly difficult to believe there were one million Indonesian Soviet agents or that indiscriminate slaughter was the answer. Also in the case of Indonesia one doesn't have to go back that far to illustrate the US concern for humanity. In 1976 Indonesia annexed the former Portuguese colony of East Timor in flagrant violation of international law and the wishes of the people of Timor. Since that day the Indonesian military has conducted a bloody campaign to overcome the resistance of the people of Timor who only want their independence. In a revealing demonstration of the concern for humanitarian interests. the US government has enthusiastically supported the Indonesian military with money and weapons in this near genocidal war against the people of East Timor. The war against Vietnam was based on an outright lie and a paranoid deception. The Gulf of Tonkin attack on an American vessel was the lie and the paranoid "domino theory" of communist conquest was the deception. Neither one proved to be true. The object was to accomplish in Vietnam what the Indonesian military did in East Timor with US approval, to pick up a colony abandoned by another power. In this case, France was finally forced to surrender by the Vietnamese liberation army but not before the US made the "humanitarian" offer to help the French overcome the Vietnamese by using the atom bomb. The French, to their credit refused the offer. The US "humanitarian" effort in Vietnam cost 55,000 American lives one million Vietnamese lives, widespread ecological destruction from chemical warfare and the ongoing death and injury from the thousand of landmines the US employed in a "humanitarian" effort to "save" the Vietnamese people. The civilized world was horrified by the ruthless Khmer Rouge attempt to cleanse Cambodia of western influence. The slaughter of a million Cambodians left no doubt about the criminal nature of this enterprise. Yet for many years, the US government openly supported the Khmer Rouge claim to a seat on the UN and secretly helped to support them in the field with weapons and supplies. The reason for this "humanitarian" support of one of the most cold blooded regimes of this bloody century? The US hoped to use the Khmer Rouge against the Vietnamese government. The details of this sordid policy were hidden from the American people with the complicity of the
[CTRL] Serbian Cartoonist: Broken glass on the pavement
-Caveat Lector- From: "Sasa Rakezic" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Broken glass on the pavement Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 23:42:05 +0200 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Status: Sasa Rakezic P.F. 163 26000 Pancevo Yugoslavia (Serbia) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] May 11th 1999 Hello!! Yesterday I walked through Kneza Milosa street in Belgrade, right in the center of the town. Many buidings in this (and surrounding) streets were destroyed by NATO bombs -- it is the part of the town where many government and military HQ buildings are placed, together with foreign embassies, etc. One of the bombs that fell haven't exploded, and was activated recently, in the middle of the day, causing more damages and destructions... Broken glass and heavy blocks of bricks and mortar were launched all around, and few streets were closed for the traffic. I've read an article about the small town in Belgium, which is also called Belgrade, and they even have a football club called Red Star!..."I hope that they will not bomb us by mistake" - said one of the citizens of Belgrade, Belgium, refering to many NATO "mistake bombings". By the way, there are at least 3 or 4 Belgrades in U.S. as well. Last night one of the army barracks in Pancevo ( placed near the train station ) was bombed by NATO.Barracks were already emptied, but the detonation has produced damages to many civilian houses in town.Today,at about 2PM, antiaircraft defenses in villages around Pancevo were bombed after a sudden NATO attack, and several villagers were injured, with their houses and goods seriously damaged. A friend of ours, who plays drums in a band called NUP, and is one of the cartoonists gathered around my "Kitchen" comics workshop, was drafted in a defense unit placede in his native village of Banatsko Novo Selo. We tryed to call and see if he was OK, but the lines were busy all the time, probably because so many people were calling their friends and relatives... Djavo (the drummer) called me later, and said that he was on a vacation during that attack, thank god. Today, while I drew my new comic strip, I played a lot of Jonathan Richman's records. Couple of months ago, together with a guy from B92 radio station, I was trying to contact Jonathan and convince him to play in Belgrade, after his concert in Salonika, in Greece, planned for mid March. It turned out that Jonathan's schedule was too busy, and he missed the opportunity to play in Serbia some days before the bombing, ha ha. More detonations around Pancevo while I write this. The sound of detonations is something that we will not forget, even when the war is over. It echoes inside your psychological structure, and I'm sure that it will come up in my dreams for many years to come. Until soon S. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Bilderberg - the Power Elite
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.bilderberg.org/ A HREF="http://www.bilderberg.org/"Tony's index. Big Brother - The Power Elite - h /A - Reports and links abound. Om K - Index | Homepage | Good Links | Bad Links Bilderberg - the Power Elite Link to the main Bilderberg info. page Brief introduction to the site Official badge of MI5 Britain's unaccountable internal security service Complete with eye at the top of the pyramid A critical description of this shadowy and obviously powerful organisation - with related material on socio-economic problems from Bristol, England "...the world is governed by very different personages to what is imagined by those who are not themselves behind the scenes." - Ben Disreali (1801-1884) PM of England "Globalisation: the new Totalitarianism" - Vandana Shiva @nticopyright - non commercial use encouraged Do mirror whatever you wish minus mailtos but do please credit. Win95 whole site download shareware http://www.winfiles.com/apps/98/offline.html - Teleport recommended News: 1999 - The Diggers 350th anniversary celebrations in the UK "Y2K" Millennium Bug - the perfect opportunity for government/banks to screw with us This site (link to old site) has several zones with other pages in the same zone linked just below the top - if you get lost just come back here to the index which is linked at the top and bottom of each page - Brief introduction to the site SITE INDEX: Bilderberg Conferences Global Elites Culture, Communication and Control The Oil Industry and Destruction of Public Transport General Uncategorizable Global Chaos Some positive solutions Bilderberg Conferences Prince Bernhard of The Netherlands - arguably the 'father' of the Bilderberg - his Nazi background and activities surrounding his 1975 resignation over the Lockheed bribery scandal The Bilderberg Group. Critical piece on what must be the world's richest and most powerful clandestine club History and origins of Bilderberg group and a cheeky bit of work by an investigative reporter The 1998 Conference at Turnberry in Scotland, Attendees list, Email discussions etc Reports and list of people who attended Bilderberg 1996 conference List of people who attended Bilderberg 1997 conference. So they did get together, just as my source predicted. Here's the official confession. It went out on the Reuters wire service, but with a legal warning to remind editors not to print it. Bilderberg reports and papers, background information on the Bilderberg Group Canadian state governors jetting around the world to hob-nob with the rich and powerful types. They all find our 'right to know' an irksome annoyance Global Élites The British American Project for the Successor generation - little-known elitist grouping - said to have close connections to British Intelligence agencies The End Of the Democratic Era - Vast amounts of money used to buy votes and a detailed look at how companies are overpowering countries BLACK HUMOUR: Arch-mage David Rockefeller talks frankly about his sterling efforts (along with his power élite chums) to save us from ourselves DANGEROUS LIAISONS - A report on the Global Elite cataloging many groupings and listing names of individuals involved David Rockefeller's mission to the far east, the Trilateral Commission Culture, Communication and Control The brown-nosing Freemasons, sad bunch, a not-so-charitable view of them is revealed here Product Placement - advertising by stealth - the marketing slimeballs, armed with endless supplies of cash, are finding greart ways of getting into your head. Persuading their products into the hands of your favourite TV star without you knowing. Gandalf, British writers jailed for publishing upbeat descriptions of direct action The CIA manipulation of US culture and systematic infringement of basic civil liberties The BBC take people to court for not paying their TV licence fee, yet they gave in to political intervention years ago, public service my ass! Intelligence services are invading the privacy of ordinary people here, there and everywhere. Who are the National Security Agency in the U.S. and what on earth are they up to? Great Emporers rule todays massive media empires, D-notices gag the press in the guise of protecting national security... enter Citizen Kane's press power page Blacklisting potential employees is still legal so long as you value profits above your staff and you don't hold your records on computer Corporate Labour, Britain's public relations team are having trouble convincing us all that they give a damn. Maybe they'd like
[CTRL] Embassy Hit: Start of NATO's Cold War vs China?
-Caveat Lector- from alt.conspiracy - As always, Caveat Lector. Om K - A HREF="aol://5863:126/alt.conspiracy:522026"Embassy Hit: Start of NATO's Cold War vs China? /A - Subject: Embassy Hit: Start of NATO's Cold War vs China? From: Terry Boardman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, May 11, 1999 12:11 PM Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] We are coming up to the 10th anniversary of the suppression of the Tienanmen Demonstrations. After the bombing of the Chinese embassy, many western news media commented on the possible threat the students' outrage represented to the Chinese govt. which is currently very nervous about 'stability'. China is the next big enemy which the western elite has in its sights. Check out the New Atlantic Initative founded in Prague 1996 by Kissinger and friends See http://www.aei.org/nai/istanbul/beedham.htm http://www.aei.org/nai/istanbul/material.htm http://www.aei.org/nai/naimemb.htm (for who is behind the NAI) We are also 99 years from the Siege of the Foreign Legations in Peking by the fanatically anti-western Boxer sect who were supported by the government of the Dowager Empress. At the centre of the foreign legations and leading their resistance was the British legation (UK was then THE superpower). 8 western nations (mostly imperialists) ganged up on China, organised the first incipient New World Order global police force, marched into Peking, relieved the legations after a 2 month siege and sacked Peking. China's humiliation was deep. The Chinese do not forget these things. The elite forces are aware of timing - they work with it. 10 years from Tienanmen and 99 years from the Embassy siege, might they not - with their no-way accidental bombing of the Chinese Embassy - be "announcing" the opening of a Cold War against China which may be intended to upgrade to a hot war some time in the next 20 years? See the very interesting article on the West's plans for China in Richard Moore: "China vs New World Order - The Final War and the Dark Millennium" at: http://www.newdawnmagazine.com.au/Resources/index.htm Might they not have started by stirring up the hornets' nest of Chinese youth - which could well turn into a movement against the government, swelled by the armies of the unemployed? Could this be intended as the beginning of the destabilisation of China? --- Terry = Terry Interesting, But I think it might be a little bit - you know - Lets just say I can see why you crossposted to the conspiracy theory groups. Why would it be in the interest of the US to antagonise China So? Where do you pluck the 20 years figure from? Is Richard Moore an authority on this subject - is he privy to the Innermost dealings of governments? But then after all that nit-picking, There is always the "Its possible." Going back to the bombing, I agree that saying it was an accident is risible, but faulty intelligence has led to many a worse disaster in the past, and it is entirely possible that the US was "screwed" by, well, basically double agents. As for sowing the seeds of discontent amongst the dissillusioned of china, I'm afraid I can't follow the logic of bombing the embassy, and having all china unite against you. Hardly an effective policy if that was the aim. But then with "Slick Willy" Clinton in charge, I wouldn't put any blunder past the US's abilities ;-) Tokaido [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End Kris DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Golden Capstone to be placed upon Great Pyramid on Dec.31,1999
-Caveat Lector- I wrote a story once about a bunch like that, and the last line God Said: Get the hell out of here before I drop a bulding on you.. I always liked that line, and am hopeful December 31, 1999 I can finish the story. Would love to see not only the cornerstone but the building blocks dumped on all of them in the name of humanitywhat better remembrance. Some say King Tut was murdered; he was buried with a dead sonremember JFK, buried with his little Patrick who died.he too, was murdered I had named my manuscript The Valley of Hamon Gog, not realizing the parallel line. Tut-ank-HAMONthe valley of the dead was Arlington Cemetary and Ezekial is the key to the puzzle and the Assassins who lie in wait for their pray - you see the murderers always return to the scene of their crime.this is where they looted the tombs of the gold of TutankHamonwhile the other, is where they buried our dead president in the valley of Hamon-Gog where their crime remains buried. But - when this great event occursthere you will see the assassinsand I hope God does drop the building on them all. Colleen DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Why GUNS are here to stay.
-Caveat Lector- At 01:15 AM 5/12/99 -0400, Howard R. Davis III wrote: -Caveat Lector- Right! Like you gun loonies are really going to stop tanks with your 9mms and your shotguns. During the Hungarian revolution many Russian tanks were taken out with "Molotov cocktails". Tanks are not necessarily unstoppable. Also, TOW missiles might become readily available if a civil war were to erupt. However, as I am sure you realize, a well armed citizenry would be impossible to stop even if the opposition had help from outside forces Howard, While your arguments are well made, you're wasting your ascii on this brain dead fool. Let him continue to rant about "gun control" when FEMA comes to pick up his sorry ass and he isn't able to defend himself, is taken off to a concentration camp and summarily executed. Don -- "In a age of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell - DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] God save the Que*n; she ain't no human being?
-Caveat Lector- from alt.conspiracy - As always, Caveat Lector. Om K - A HREF="aol://5863:126/alt.conspiracy:522000"God save the Que*n; she ain't no human being? /A - Subject: God save the Que*n; she ain't no human being? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tsun) Date: Tue, May 11, 1999 10:20 AM Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "God Save the Que*n; She Ain't no Human Being" Remember that Punk Rocker who died [Windsorcide?] after issuing a song with this name? Maybe he was onto something. I find it difficult to believe everything I read, but when hints from several sources tend to support an allegation, it is probably wise to at least pay attention to some of those wild claims. Don't forget the world wide dragon symbol, especially the one related to St. George in England. And the Royals certainly are cold fish! http://www.davidicke.com/icke/articles/desborough.html The link above leads to a review of a book by David Icke. Anyone know about him, his name keep turning up on a mailing list I receive. The guy who sends the emails claims Icke is a good way to introduce New Agers and leftist feel good types (who would never read constitutionalist books) to what's really going on in our world. That certainly needs to be done. Maybe some of the farther out stuff is only "symbolic." Could be. But I suppose the whole ball of wax might be true. Why not? Is this what Andrea Chen was chiding me about, when I poo-pooh'd the UFO mythos... she warned me to watch out; she said I was setting myself up for the biggest lie of all. So, OK! I'll keep an open mind toward the stuff that's making the rounds. At worst, I suppose it can't be any more "untrue" than most of what oozes from the boob tube, or from the pages of the controlled press. Still, the concept that the self-styled Royal Family could be shape shifting Reptiles is a little hard to swallow. Oh yeah, Icke mentions the fact that some people know how to turn a common kitchen variety MICROWAVE OVEN into a DEATH RAY. Now a highly intelligent engineer I knew a couple years back was mumbling the same thing. Only I didn't pay attention, because it sounded rather far fetched, and I was more interested in some of the other junk he had in his workshop. . . Does anyone know about this Popular Science Microwave Death Ray conversion? Boy, if it's true, then when guns are outlawed, outlaws will have microwave ovens! (?) Hmmm. Maybe that's why they plan to turn off the electricity, come Y2K. Regards, Tsun = Subject: Re: God save the Que*n; she ain't no human being? From: "Lenny Smith" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, May 12, 1999 12:01 AM Message-id: Qya_2.495$[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tsun wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]... "God Save the Que*n; She Ain't no Human Being" Remember that Punk Rocker who died [Windsorcide?] after issuing a song with this name? Maybe he was onto something. Not to nitpick, but... it was Sid Vicious who died, but it was long after the song came out, and he wasn't onto much besides heroin at the time. Johnny Rotten, who is much more likely to have written this lyric, is very much alive and well. I find it difficult to believe everything I read, but when hints from several sources tend to support an allegation, it is probably wise to at least pay attention to some of those wild claims. Don't forget the world wide dragon symbol, especially the one related to St. George in England. And the Royals certainly are cold fish! You got that right... http://www.davidicke.com/icke/articles/desborough.html The link above leads to a review of a book by David Icke. Anyone know about him, his name keep turning up on a mailing list I receive. More on Icke at: http://www.davidicke.com/icke/index.html Oh yeah, Icke mentions the fact that some people know how to turn a common kitchen variety MICROWAVE OVEN into a DEATH RAY. Now a highly intelligent engineer I knew a couple years back was mumbling the same thing. Only I didn't pay attention, because it sounded rather far fetched, and I was more interested in some of the other junk he had in his workshop. . . Like what? Killer refrigerators? (Sorry. Couldn't resist. This microwave thing sounds kinda cool, really...). Lenny - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End Kris DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector.
Re: [CTRL] Poor CIA
-Caveat Lector- -- From: Das GOAT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] "Poor CIA" Date: Wednesday, May 12, 1999 1:51 AM -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-05-11 16:47:15 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: WASHINGTON (AP) -- The CIA may well see one of its biggest blunders turn into a budget boost. Lawmakers are blaming the mistaken bombing of the Chinese Embassy in Belgrade on an intelligence apparatus stretched thin. Yes, having to use those old maps must be what did it. Ironically, if you go back and re-read that article carefully, it makes clear that the CIA was using the PENTAGON's maps which were out of date -- yet the CIA gets the blame AND somehow the CIA (not the "poor Pentagon") gets more budget cash! Go figger ... Please people. The map story is just that - a story. The CIA took the fall for this one. What ever happened to those nifty satellite pictures??? Hilary DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The Illuminati Pyramid Grade Chart
-Caveat Lector- from: http://user.tninet.se/~gbl020q/illuminati_pyramid3.htm A HREF="http://user.tninet.se/~gbl020q/illuminati_pyramid3.htm"The Illuminati Pyramid /A - The Illuminati Pyramid Grade Chart 227 KB jpeg -- Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End Kris DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Golden Capstone to be placed upon Great Pyramid on Dec .31,1999
-Caveat Lector- In the midst of all these posts I must have deleted the original message of this thread, can anyone repost it? Thanks, Jamie -Original Message- From: Colleen Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 1999 9:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Golden Capstone to be placed upon Great Pyramid on Dec.31,1999 -Caveat Lector- I wrote a story once about a bunch like that, and the last line God Said: Get the hell out of here before I drop a bulding on you.. I always liked that line, and am hopeful December 31, 1999 I can finish the story. Would love to see not only the cornerstone but the building blocks dumped on all of them in the name of humanitywhat better remembrance. Some say King Tut was murdered; he was buried with a dead sonremember JFK, buried with his little Patrick who died.he too, was murdered I had named my manuscript The Valley of Hamon Gog, not realizing the parallel line. Tut-ank-HAMONthe valley of the dead was Arlington Cemetary and Ezekial is the key to the puzzle and the Assassins who lie in wait for their pray - you see the murderers always return to the scene of their crime.this is where they looted the tombs of the gold of TutankHamonwhile the other, is where they buried our dead president in the valley of Hamon-Gog where their crime remains buried. But - when this great event occursthere you will see the assassinsand I hope God does drop the building on them all. Colleen DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Illuminati_and_Organized_crime / Illuminati_structure
-Caveat Lector- from: http://user.tninet.se/~gbl020q/illum_structure.htm A HREF="http://user.tninet.se/~gbl020q/illum_structure.htm"Illuminati_structure /A 196 KB jpeg = from: http://user.tninet.se/~gbl020q/twilight.htm A HREF="http://user.tninet.se/~gbl020q/twilight.htm"Illuminati_and_Organized_cr ime /A 148KB jpeg - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End Kris DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Why GUNS are here to stay.
-Caveat Lector- You would think a person on this list would know the reasons other then the "popular" ones to disarm the people... I guess we're getting swollowed up by more of the ignorant masses. Sad sad sad etc... Jamie At 01:15 AM 5/12/99 -0400, Howard R. Davis III wrote: -Caveat Lector- Right! Like you gun loonies are really going to stop tanks with your 9mms and your shotguns. During the Hungarian revolution many Russian tanks were taken out with "Molotov cocktails". Tanks are not necessarily unstoppable. Also, TOW missiles might become readily available if a civil war were to erupt. However, as I am sure you realize, a well armed citizenry would be impossible to stop even if the opposition had help from outside forces Howard, While your arguments are well made, you're wasting your ascii on this brain dead fool. Let him continue to rant about "gun control" when FEMA comes to pick up his sorry ass and he isn't able to defend himself, is taken off to a concentration camp and summarily executed. Don -- "In a age of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell - DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: SNET: Fwd: The bombs are driving us mad...: Letter from Belgrade + NATO LEADERSCHARGED FOR WAR CRIMES + New Anti-War Efforts in Ottawa, National RallyMay 29
- SNETNEWS Mailing List Hello In an effort to present the other unreported side of the picture - unreported because most of the media have received orders not to report these facts or are too coward to do so - I'm forwarding you a distressing letter from a doctor in Belgrade under the NATO bombs and a couple other related items. I would dare to say that enough is enough. Stop the bombing now! The point has been made and the "honor" of almighty NATO has been saved. As for the future of Kosovo, I think the Yugoslav government will be a lot more "receptive" to a negociated peace settlement and a UN monitored home return of the forced refugees if NATO just let them a breathing space to think straight again, without the nightly bombing runs! As you'll see, the other side of the story as seen from under the bombs is really saddening, especially if you stop to think about all those children frightened to death and permanently traumatised by the wanton destruction and death visited on their land by high flying jets and Cruise missiles. These innocent children have nothing to do with the cruel deeds of their government against the Kosovar people and deserve our compassion as much as the hundreds of thousands of refugees suffering an equally terrible trauma because of a despot in Yugoslavia and his army of goons. We cannot tolerate this terrible situation much longer and it is time all responsible and sane people express their revulsion against the use of such violent means to presumably counter the ethnic cleansing of Kosovo. War has been given its chance and it has not worked. So now let's give peace a chance... once again! PLEASE FORWARD THIS EMAIL TO THE APPROPRIATE PERSON OR EDITORIAL DEPARTMENT. AND DARE TO QUESTION THE WAY THIS WAR IS BEING CONDUCTED... Jean Hudon Earth Rainbow Network Coordinator http://www.cybernaute.com/earthconcert2000 "If we were a species of animals I am sure animal protection groups would stand up against what is happening to us?" Dr. Miroslav Milicevic, Belgrade, Yugoslavia Daily Telegraph (London) 7th May 1999 'Attacks on Belgrade are driving us mad' Prof Miroslav Milicevic, Chief of Surgery at Belgrade University Hospital, has lived through the bombing of Belgrade. In extracts from a letter to a friend with whom he worked for two years at Imperial College, London, he describes his experiences. He has never been a supporter of President Milosevic and carries no political affiliation, according to his friend. Tuesday, May 4. Dear colleague, Hope you and the kids are doing OK. My father told me that you called and that you said that you have been trying to reach me for some time but that it proved impossible. I am not surprised, it is a miracle that phones are working at all, not to mention international lines. I really thank you both for inquiring about us. What can I say about the way we live. Whatever I say is not terrible enough and does not portray the present situation in its extreme horror. When the bombing started, Lepa and the kids were here for two days. I have a bomb shelter in the house where I live and we spent practically two nights there. The sirens, the blasts and the general feeling really deranged my kids (they are only 5 and 7) and Lepa could not take it at all. It was like a nightmare. My kids really suffered greatly and after a few days I had to decide to move them out of the country, which was not easy at all. There was really no choice since they would definitely have been psychologically damaged for life. I made up my mind in two hours and arranged for a minibus to drive my family and the families of two of my friends to Budapest. We were driving behind the minibus to make sure they made it across the bridges. Can you imagine how it feels when you are speeding down the road and 700 metres to your left you have screeching aircraft piloted by morons bombing the airfield in Batajnica? Can you imagine how the kids feel? We knew that it was an opportunity to get our families to safety and that we had to take it no matter what the risk was. Believe me Nagy, that we only hoped that if someone had to die it was us and not our children. They made it to Budapest, thank God. From there Lepa and the kids went to Moscow. It is fortunate that I have a brother there and he has been taking care of them since. What has been happening since. Utter madness. We do very little surgery, only what is inevitable and have emptied the hospital for eventual casualties. We are low on supplies, and you can imagine how surgeons that do not operate feel. We have 24 hour shifts every few days (several teams headed by a professor) as spare teams for the Emergency Centre teams. There is depression and anger everywhere you turn. No one can do anything smart - we just exist. I cannot write or read. Friends (since most families are in exile) meet and spend their time together. I am relieved when I operate - it keeps my mind off my family and the unbelievable reality.
[CTRL] Mrs. O'Leary's Chinese Cash Cow?
-Caveat Lector- Sunday May 9, 1:52 PM Mrs. O'Leary's Chinese Cash Cow? Now that it's clear America's nuclear security has gone up in smoke, it may be time to borrow a phrase from the Great Chicago Fire and ponder the role of former Energy Secretary Hazel O'Leary and her onetime cash cow, Johnny Chung. Recent media reports have focused on the $300,000 Chung received from Chinese military intelligence and the $35,000 of that sum (at least) that found its way into Democratic National Committee coffers. But the press seems to be suffering a bout of collective amnesia regarding information on Chung it reported two years ago, which points to a much more direct financial connection to O'Leary -- and even a member of the first family. O'Leary was in charge of security policy at U.S. nuclear labs where Newsweek, for instance, has now described the Chinese penetration as "total." Here's what's been on the record about the Chung-O'Leary money trail for nearly two years: "No less startling was Mr. Chung's allegation that the Democratic Party was not the only player with a ravenous appetite for money. He also described how he was, in effect, shaken down for a $25,000 donation to Africare, a charitable organization supported by the Energy Secretary at the time, Hazel O'Leary." (New York Times, Aug. 22, 1997) Here's how Chung himself put it, in an exchange with NBC's Tom Brokaw days before the Times report: BROKAW: Were you surprised when someone could get you in to see Hazel O'Leary if you would write a check to her favorite charity? CHUNG: I begin to understand a little bit, but I am still a little bit surprised. BROKAW: Yeah. Who picked up the check? CHUNG: There's one gentleman, present himself as the Energy Department official, and said I'm here to pick it up, the $25,000 check ... BROKAW: To Africare? CHUNG: To Africare. BROKAW: A charity that the energy secretary supports, she sends over somebody from the Energy Department to pick it up, and you get a meeting with her with a very prominent Chinese petrochemical official? CHUNG: Yes. (Investor's Business Daily -- Aug. 26, 1997) The Chung-O'Leary money trail deeply troubled even stalwart media FOBs like Lars-Erik Nelson, who complained in his New York Daily News column that, "Johnny Chung's story about Hazel O'Leary could put some people in jail." Other reports at the time noted that Chung also ponied up $25,000 to a group formed to attack Sen. Al D'Amato, who was then chairing congressional hearings into the Clintons' Whitewater land deal. After that, Chung got to meet the first lady herself, who, Chung says, offered him the greeting, "Welcome to the White House, my friend." Of course, news that O'Leary had her hand in Chung's cookie jar came 18 months before we learned that the Chinese had obtained 50 years worth of our nuclear secrets, with most of them disappearing out the back door on O'Leary's watch. NewsMax.com Executive Editor Chris Ruddy was the first to uncover a possible connection between lax security at our weapons labs and policy changes implemented through O'Leary. In his March 11, 1999 report, "Scientist: Clinton Administration Gave China Top Nuclear Secrets", Ruddy revealed: "China's efforts culminated with a delegation of Chinese scientists who visited [Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory] in the winter of 1994, and another visit by Department of Energy Secretary Hazel O'Leary at about the same time." Ruddy's source, a Livermore whistleblower, contended that "the Clinton administration has, in fact, aggressively sought to provide China with some of the most closely guarded nuclear weapons technology." At Livermore, this scientist said, "the administration had facilitated the transfer of laser technology employed in the process of making nuclear weapons-grade plutonium." After O'Leary's 1994 meeting at the California lab, "the scientist recalled several Livermore scientists in a heated debate over whether 'this type of information [relating to the weapons-enriching laser process] should be considered for technology transfer' to China." "The deal with China for the technology transfer was consummated, the scientist said, sometime later that year after O'Leary's visit, when top DOE officials, Department of Commerce officials representing Ron Brown, White House representatives and Chinese government officials met in a guarded room at the Pleasanton Hilton nearby to Livermore." CIA official described as "worse than the Rosenberg spy case," Inside Cover wonders why the press has forgotten about Chung's donations to the pet causes of O'Leary and Mrs. Clinton. Depending upon how Chung explains those donations in testimony before the House Government Reform and Oversight Committee this week, the Clinton administration could emerge as a victim of a Chinese plot to subvert U.S. national security -- or as a willing co-conspirator. http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover.shtml "An unarmed people are slaves, or subject to slavery at
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Wednesday #2
-Caveat Lector-
SkeptiNews 990512b - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question
: Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion.
: Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning.
** SKEPTINEWS CONTRIBUTORS/EDITORS WANTED ** Hey, I can't do *everything*
here, and I have to go offline every now and then, so I'm asking you, the
loyal readers of SkeptiNews, to substitute for me every now and then. Like,
tomorrow, until next week. And a couple weekends after that. You can do it!
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*** Church protesters interrupt S. Korea TV show. SEOUL (AP) - Police sought
arrest warrants for six church leaders after members of their congregation
stormed a Seoul TV network and interrupted the airing of a program critical
of the church's pastor. About 300 members of Seoul's All Holiness Church
overpowered 50 guards and seized control of the lobby of the network shortly
before the program was to go on air. 5 minutes after the program began, 50
protesters broke into the main control center and took it off-air. Network
engineers restored the program, but the protesters interrupted it three more
times. See http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2559514254-80a
# WHITE HOUSE WEB SITE SHUT DOWN AFTER HACKING ATTEMPT. The official White
House Web site remained off line Wednesday as a security precaution after
hackers broke into the system. White House flak Barry Toiv said the site was
shut down Monday night after "an attempt was made to break into the system
that operates the White House Web page." The site (whitehouse.gov) features
a virtual White House tour, presidential speeches and other information on
the Clinton administration. It contains no sensitive gov't info. Shut down
Monday night: http://cnn.com/US/9905/11/whitehouse.site/index.html
and http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2559512438-c19
: Does your belief system promote disrupting communication? Would you rather
shut down a TV show, a website, a net.link, a religion, a gov't, a planet?
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*** Sony makes robot dog. TOKYO (AP) This dog is already housebroken, won't
need costly shots or food; and whenever you tire of play, just hit the pause
button. Sony Corp. will sell a robot dog called AIBO soon. The "beast" is
smart enough to do tricks and even lets you know when it's happy. About the
size of a Chihuahua, the robo-canine has sensors in its paws and an antenna-
like tail. For a machine, it's pretty smart. A camera and infrared sensor
help the wired pooch judge distances and detect objects so it doesn't walk
into walls. AIBO ('pal' in Japanese) is programmed to enjoy being petted,
and a sensor on its head can tell the difference between a friendly pat and
a scolding slap. AIBO will sell for $2,500, though the Internet only. ###
: Do you prefer robots in the forms of dogs, cats, sharks, humans, gorillas,
Reptilioids, Republicans, Australians, crabs, cyborgs, or just plain blobs?
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*** Lawn device picks up after dog. EDINA, Minn. (AP) Mike Miller is build-
ing a multi-mmegabuck business on things other people don't want to touch.
Miller's Hound Dog Products is the company behind the Poop Hound, a long-
handled scooper with a raking arm that sweeps doggie droppings into a plas-
tic bag that can be released into the trash. No bending. No touching. Just
mention dog poop and Miller's eyes shine as he thinks about the business
potential. "There are 53 million dogs in America and I'll bet you dollars
to doughnuts every one of those dogs poops," Miller said. "What's a bigger
nuisance in the back yard than dog poop?" Other than alien invaders, maybe?
See http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2559508361-68f
: Would you rather have a robot dog or a robot dog valet? Can/do you handle
dogshit, bullshit, chickenshit? How about a robot scooper for political BS?
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# IRRADIATION: YOUR STEAK WON'T GLOW, BUT IT WILL BE BUG-FREE. Irradiation
of food is coming, and, no, it won't make your food glow in the dark. But it
will make it virtually bug-free, which is important since even though the US
has the world's safest food supply, there are 8 million cases of food-borne
illness that occur every year. Irradiated food is expected on the market
within a year - clearly labeled, for those of you who still have qualms.
http://www.healthcentral.com/drdean/DeanFullTextTopics.cfm?ID=12193
: Do you have qualms about eating irradiated food? Would you rather eat food
infected with 'natural' diseases, 'organic' bacteria? What would Jesus do?
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*** Woman sentenced for fake hate mail. CHICAGO (AP) A black woman who sent
phony hate mail to prominent blacks in a scheme to defraud United Parcel
Service out of megabucks was sentenced to 5 years and 5 months in federal
prison. Angela Jackson, 29, scrawled racist remarks on letters sent via UPS
to prominent black leaders, including the Rev. Jesse Jackson, NAACP Pres.
Re: [CTRL] [Re: [CTRL] Poor CIA]
-Caveat Lector- Well, I don't really believe that the bombing of the Chinese Embassy was an accident. Even the CIA ain't *that* stupid. Besides, intelligence officers have to be used to working with old maps and atlases, sometimes *very* old. During the Italian campaign in 1944-45, Allied Intelligence realized that the Germans were using the old, pre-WWI Austrian names for towns, rivers, and other geographic features in the Italian Tyrol, thus making it difficult for POW interrogators to know what German prisoners were talking about. So G-2 just hunted up pre-WWI copies of *Baedeker's Süd-Tirol*, which had better maps than they were using anyway... And in North Africa, the standard maps used by the first Allied units following the landings in Morocco in 1942 were simply the Michelin tourist maps, complete with "scenic routes" carefully marked out. I still have one of those maps which belonged to my father. (His war souvenirs tended to be a little different--his other souvenir of North Africa is a grammar of Moroccan Arabic.) Bob = Robert F. Tatman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Remove "nospam" from the address to reply. NOTICE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml POSTING THIS MESSAGE TO THE INTERNET DOES NOT IMPLY PERMISSION TO SEND UNSOLICITED COMMERCIAL E-MAIL (SPAM) TO THIS OR ANY OTHER INTERNET ADDRESS. RECEIPT OF SPAM WILL RESULT IN IMMEDIATE NOTIFICATION OF THE SENDER'S ISP. Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] FW: Ron Paul Needs Your Help!
-Caveat Lector- Spread Far and Wide! Bard Visit me at: The Center for Exposing Corruption in the Federal Government http://www.xld.com/public/center/center.htm Federal Government defined: a benefit/subsidy protection racket! -Original Message- From: James Hardin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 10, 1999 9:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Ron Paul Needs Your Help! Friends, As many of you know, I'm a strong supporter of Rep. Ron Paul and former web master of Ron's "Freedom Reports" which can still be accessed from The Freedom Page. Please help if you care about your liberty. Jim Hardin http://freedompage.home.mindspring.com To receive Freedom Page mail, put "Subscribe" as subject to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Learn the truth about the UN http://themustardseed.home.mindspring.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 16:44:35 EDT Subject: H.R. 1146 needs your help! I have just received a letter from Ron Paul, c/o Liberty Study Committee. As you know, Ron Paul introduced H.R. 1146 - American Sovereignty Restoration Act last yearbut it was difficult to get other members of the House to co-sponsor this bill because most of them still think the way my Representative thinks"the U.N. is just a debating society"Can you believe this ridiculous excuse for not co-sponsoring H.R. 1146? Well, H.R. 1146 is being re-introduced this year, but hopefully with more Americans involved to put it over the topand the way to accomplish that is to sign up with the Liberty Study Committee who are determined to get us out of the United Nations NOW! Since its founding 52 years ago, Americans have poured over $30 billion into the U.N. monstrosity. Americans pay 25% of all U.N. bills and a whopping 31% of all "peacekeeping" costs. Now, the U.N. bureacrats want $2 billion in "back dues" and the right to tax us directly on airline tickets, phone calls and international transactions (and that's only the beginning!). They want to put their hand directly into our pockets without having to go throught the U.S. Congress to pay for their lavish lifestyles.and remember, this doesn't include the U.N. "standby" army for which the Clinton administrartion gave the U.N. seed money last year. And all this says nothing about the U.N. conventions and treaties that endanger individual rights and are designed to take control of U.S. lands and property rights, as well as regulate human behavior. (and my congressman, Porter Goss, calls the U.N. a "debating society"..!!!). Last year, Ron got 54 votes in favor of getting us out of the U.N. This year, let's leave the "hate-America" bureaucrats at the U.N. in shock and get 300 more! H.R. 1146 will shut down U.N. headquarters, and cut off all American funding for the U.N. including all of its agencies as well as its funding and participation in U.N. "peacekeeping" operations. H.R. 1146 will revoke diplomatic immunity for U.N. bureaucrats H.R. 1146 makes our message crystal clear: U.S. out of the U.N.!! How can you stop this onslaught? SIGN UP AS AN ACTIVIST WITH THE LIBERTY STUDY COMMITTEE. Just send your name, address, telephone, fax and e-mail information so you can receive "Liberty Updates" and "Liberty Alerts" to: Ron Paul c/o Liberty Study Committee 5th Floor 701 West Broad Street Falls Church, VA 22046 Fax: 703 241-8885 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: 703-241-1003 Please, let's all pull together on this one...and get your friends and fellow patriots to join along too.. Numbers will count on this one. I know we all have our pet causes, but this is the biggest thorn in our sides right now - and if we could get out of the U.N. probably 90% of our problems would disappear! I pray to God that you will join me on this onefor only thru the help of God and good Americans who care about saving our sovereignty and our constitution, will America remain free! As Abraham Lincoln said: " To sin by silence when they should protest, makes cowards of men (and women)!" Marilyn Bell An American Patriot DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [CTRL] Poor CIA
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Robert Tatman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, I don't really believe that the bombing of the Chinese Embassy was an accident. Even the CIA ain't *that* stupid. What, you're under-estimating the stupidity of gov't workers? Hmmm... Ric "sometimes an idiot is just an idiot" Carter DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [[SC] Re: [CTRL] Skeptic News - Monday #2]
-Caveat Lector- "Ric Carter" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Brian Redman [EMAIL PROTECTED] # MAGNETS REVEAL BRAIN FUNCTIONS. The more we discover about our materialistic brain functions, the fewer aspects there are of our humanity that may be due to an immaterial "soul." http://www.news.harvard.edu/gazette/1999/04.15/magnetism.html There's more to us than surgeons can remove. I know this without doubt from uncanny dreams I've had. There's no physical explanation for it. Ditto stories where people have gone "out of body" and reported things there's no way they could physically have known. See also a book, "Twenty Cases Suggestive of Reincarnation." If people want to be atheists, that's okay. But I disagree with their materialistic viewpoint. For a time I was agnostic, but I became convinced beyond doubt that there's more than the material world. Are explanations that invoke one or more arbitrarily/infinitely complex supernatural entities/forces useful? Are such explan- ations more likely to be correct than simpler materialistic explanations? If some phenomena can't be explained by material means now, does that mean that they can NEVER be so explained? Once you've invoked magic to explain something, you're stuck, aren't you? You've said that there's some inexplicable mystery there, some singularity that's not amenable to further inquiry. Now you're at a dead end. Good scientific theories always make predictions, pointing to new areas of inquiry, new avenues to explore. Magic, religion, just stop cold, leaving you to do noting but worship or vegetate or masturbate. Bother. "Magic, mysticism, and mathematics are triplets"--Aleister Crowley. "Magic" is often just another name for physics... Remember Clarke's Law: "Sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." For all I know, there are really captive elves inside my monitor painting this image on the screen. By comparison with my grandfather's slide rule, the 400MHz, 6.4GB HDD machine I'm using might as well be powered by elemental salamanders held captive by a sorcerous cantrip as by the Pentium II chip it "actually" uses. Skepticism is a two- (or more) edged sword...and I find that it pays to be as skeptical of materialist claims as I am of knee-jerk spiritualist claims. Magic *works*; religion works (for me); science works, most of the time. "If it works, it's probably true." (P.E.I. Bonewits, *Real Magic* [1978]) Bob "Have you driven a Fnord lately?" Tatman = Robert F. Tatman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Remove "nospam" from the address to reply. NOTICE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml POSTING THIS MESSAGE TO THE INTERNET DOES NOT IMPLY PERMISSION TO SEND UNSOLICITED COMMERCIAL E-MAIL (SPAM) TO THIS OR ANY OTHER INTERNET ADDRESS. RECEIPT OF SPAM WILL RESULT IN IMMEDIATE NOTIFICATION OF THE SENDER'S ISP. Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Urantia
-Caveat Lector- Joe, I've been "a reader" of "The URANTIA Book" for several years now. I have to chime in here and say that I believe that the mindset most prone to picking up the UB and giving it honest and objective consideration is the mindset that has been cultivated by a healthy respect for one's own intellectual integrity. To me, this means first and foremost, not having committedly discarded a deep-seated regard for the Unknown, the Primal Source of all things and beings, while at the same time having become sufficiently disillusioned with the lack of coherent In a message dated 99-05-12 09:40:23 EDT, you write: In a message dated 5/11/99 10:31:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: sounds like a lot of bullshit to me! Yes..this is the response of the majority of those that hear of the Urantia book. But remember..the majority isn't always right! Most people just aren't ready for the Urantia book. Joe DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Saving the Earth
-Caveat Lector- SAVING THE EARTH Excerpts from Brave New Schools by Berit Kjos * * * * * * "In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill All these dangers are caused by human intervention... The real enemy, then, is humanity itself.1 Club of Rome (an influential group of globalist leaders) * * * * * * In the weeks surrounding Earth Day (April 22, Lenin's birthday), students from coast to coast celebrate their spiritual connection to Mother Earth, chant prayers to the Great Spirit, and imagine politically correct answers to the unequal distribution of the world's resources. Using computers that "simulate the real world," they recreate environmental disasters and "solve" global problems. These dubious lessons share a common aim-. to persuade students to reject Western culture and become advocates for new global beliefs and values. While this agenda makes little sense to those who view America from a traditional perspective, it makes perfect sense to leaders seeking global laws that would govern land, people, education, and consumption. A lesson in Clean Sweep, an environmental curriculum published by the Iowa Department of Education, illustrates the bias behind environmental education. The class divides into two groups: first, the world's current population seated in a circle representing the earth; second, the "unborn" people of the world. Played like musical chairs, the game instructs the first group to gather natural resources whenever the music stops. Meanwhile, new children are "born", adding to the fast-growing "population" consuming the dwindling resources. Guess what happens. The world runs out of resources. Like most environmental classroom exercises, the game sounds logical but distorts reality. Designed to change attitudes, it ignores scientific facts, social statistics, and renewable resources.2 Yet, what it does is far more dangerous than what it omits: it gives children an alarming view of an imagined reality. They feel the exaggerated dangers. They agree to solve the problem. To make sure the children understand that America is the villain of the world, they discuss the main message: "The U.S.A. uses over 20% of the world's resources. . . How do the others feel toward the U.S.A. in this game?" Other questions prod the children toward these "right" conclusions: America's demand for resources deprives poorer nations of their equal share. Greedy nations must reduce consumption, block population growth, and make whatever sacrifices needed for common good and planetary healing. Genuine concern for the environment is needful, for ecological abuses do destroy farm land, sea life, forests, and other resources-especially outside the Western word. But since most environmental problems are local or regional, they fail to serve the political purposes of global leaders who want nothing less than global governance. Rousing whole nations to action, and inspiring a unified call for planetary management requires global disasters like ozone holes3 and rising ocean levels, not merely dying lakes and rivers. Globalist leaders know that well. "In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill," declared members of the Club of Rome in a sweeping 1991 report on global governance." All these dangers are caused by human intervention The real enemy, then, is humanity itself." 4 Al Gore, who wrote a book to spread a similar message, said, "We must make rescue of the environment the central organizing principle for civilization."5 In Earth in the Balance, he calls for a "worldwide education program" and a "panreligious perspective" based on "the wisdom distilled by all faiths."6 Gore knows that common beliefs and values based on idealized (not factual) models of earth-centered cultures are vital to planetary oneness. Just as tribes, not individuals, owned the land and shared common values, so government must control land, populations, and beliefs in the next decade. A mythical "common good" must inspire the new policies.7 "We'd like to see the world a better place... to get some broad-based support, to capture the public's imagination," said Stanford University environmentalist Stephen Schneider. "That, of course, entails getting loads of media coverage. So we have to offer up scary scenarios, make simplified, dramatic statements and make little mention of any doubts we might have... Each of us has to decide what the right balance is between being effective and being honest."8 (Emphasis added) In other words, facts must yield to ideology. Excluded from public debate are uncompromising scientists like Dr. Frederick Seitz, past President of the National Academy of Sciences and
[CTRL] [24] The Strange Death of FRANKLIN D. ROOSEVELT
-Caveat Lector- an excerpt from: The Strange Death of FRANKLIN D. ROOSEVELT A History of the Roosevelt-Delano Dynasty America's Royal Family Emanuael M. Josephson©1948 CHEDNEY PRESS 127 East 69th Street New York 21, N. Y. --[24]-- CHAPTER XXIV MORAL CONSEQUENCES OF NEW DEAL JUVENILE DELINQUENCY One of the gravest injuries done the nation by the Marxist New Deal is the decay that it has wrought in the people's moral fibre. There has been a certain measure of decay, some rotten apples in the barrel, from the start. Gradual and insidious changes were brought about by legal and political termites, the disciples of Bismarxian propaganda, who have gnawed at the law and Constitution. This slow process was accelerated in Wilson's Administration. But in Roosevelt's regime, an overnight abrogation of the Constitution was effected on the grounds that it was antiquated. They developed a total disregard of all law by the very public officers who were sworn to uphold it. A destructive transformation was effected in the entire governmental organization that has converted it into the worst type of tyrannic autocracy in which the whim and caprice of every petty bureaucrat is a dictate from which there is no appeal. In short, government by law and Constitution have ceased to exist. The United States has become as tyranny-ridden and corrupt a land as those of the pashas and viziers. Citizens have no longer any legally defined rights or privileges. There has been substituted for government by law, dictation by insolent, autocratic and irresponsible bureaucrats from whose arbitrary and unprincipled dictates there is no appeal; and rule by favoritism and an unabashedly dishonest officialdom. As a consequence of the disregard of prin ciple and law, the practice of law has degenerated to the practice of "reaching" and bribing key bureaucrats. This conception has gone so far, even in our courts, that New Dealers themselves are beginning to protest against it. Thus U. S. Supreme Court Justice Felix Frankfurter, one of the sponsors of the New Deal placed on the Bench in connection with the packing of the Court, protested against the open collusion in. volved in the decision handed down by Judge Ben Moore in the CIO test case of the provision of the Taft Hartley Law on the use of union funds for campaign purposes. This section of the law is intended to prevent partial disfranchisement of some members of the unions by compelling them to contribute through union campaign funds to the election of candidates favored by the Labor Barons but opposed by themselves. Undoubtedly an element of this protest was directed to the failure of Judge Moore to disqualify himself because his old firm is employed by the United Mine Workers, CIO. Equality before the law has ceased to exist. Such equality is decried as unfair and inconsiderate of "human rights". The average employer, the landlord, the investor and the person who has saved his money are criminally suspect and are held guilty in many directions, even if proved innocent. But the laborer, the poor and the improvident are generally held innocent no matter what they do if they do not transgress against Dynastic interests or Labor Barons. Property rights have virtually ceased to exist for the average citizen. In the quest for monopoly and dictatorship via Communism, labelled "New Deal", there has been spurned the sound commonsense counsel of Abraham Lincoln to a delegation of union officials who called on him after the New York Draft Riots: "Property is the fruit of labor; property is desirable; is a positive good in the world. That some should be rich shows that others may be rich, and hence is just encouragement to industry and enterprise. Let not him who is houseless pull down the house of another, but let him labor diligently and build one for himself, thus by example assuring his own shall be safe from violence when built". In these few commonsense statements applying the "Golden Rule" to property rights, Lincoln reduced to absurdity the fundamental Marxist and New Deal doctrines on property rights. But the Dynasty's malevolent purposes are better served by Marx's insane concepts, which they propagandize and foster in law. Where there is no honesty in government, none can be expected in private life. Diligent, industrious, principled and provident individuals who provide employment, housing and other necessities of life for their fellow-men are pilloried by law and the government, as criminals on a priori grounds. They are deprived of the benefit of justice and honesty, and the protection of Constitution or law, by corrupt, demagogue officials and servile, venal and self-serving judiciary. In many instances, such as rent control laws, landlords are declared guilty of violating, retroactively, laws which did not exist at the time of the acts in question; and viciously are penalized therefore. A form of "lettre de cachet" has become a favorite "New Deal" device for dealing
[CTRL] Every Secret Thing
-Caveat Lector- an excerpt from: Every Secret Thing Patricia Hearst©1982 w/ Alvin MoscowDoubleday Company, Inc. Garden City, N.Y. - I hated the idea of having to reveal myself to these unknown doctors, who would probe my mind impersonally, stripping me of the last shreds of privacy. Cinque had done that to me in the SLA interrogations, and now I had to submit to basically the same thing at the hands of psychiatrists. My fear, no doubt, was based upon my family's disdain of psychiatry to resolve personal problems. My sisters and I had been brought up to believe that we were responsible for what we did and could not blame our transgressions on something being wrong inside our heads. I had joined the SLA because if I didn't they would have killed me. And I remained with them because I truly believed that the FBI would kill me if they could, and if not, the SLA would. In my mind now, I was a "bad girl" for doing all that and now would have to be punished. When the first of the psychiatrists came to see me on September 30, just eleven days after my arrest, I simply crumpled under his scrutiny. I cried, murmuring and mumbling out replies that were not answers to his questions. He thought I was refusing to cooperate with him. This was Dr. Louis Joloyn West, Chairman of the Department of Psychiatry at UCLA, Director of the Neuropsychiatric Institute, Psychiatrist-in-Chief of UCLA Hospitals, a licensed MD., Chairman of the Council on Research and Development of the American Psychiatric Association, psychiatric consultant to the Air Force, author of books and studies on prisoners of war, an internationally recognized expert in his field. I thought he had a creepy hypnotic voice. A tall, heavy-set man who appeared to be kindly, I suspected "Jolly" of being too smooth, too soothing to be trusted. After trying to deal with me for about an hour and a half, Dr. West left the consulting room, where we were meeting, and complained to Al Johnson about my refusing to cooperate fully with him. Al came in and spoke to me and after lunch Dr. West and I went at it for another two hours. He tried to be gentle and kind, I suppose, but his questions became more intimate and personal. It was one thing to explain things to the lawyers: their questions were for the most part factual and relatively superficial. I could answer them with a word, a short sentence, a nod of my head. But with Dr. West, and the other psychiatrists who followed him, the questions probed areas which brought me back to that closet and the abuse my comrades had meted out to me. It was astonishing how much had receded from my memory and how much of my ordeal had been altered by my acceptance of the SLA version of my status as a prisoner of war. But when Dr. West probed, I was forced to relive those moments again as they had happened. He would not allow me to gloss over events and repress my emotions any further. And each time, I would break down in tears. I wept in these sessions almost as much as I had wept in the SLA closet It was the first time since the closet that I had wept like that, the first time since then that I allowed myself to truly feel. Dr. West, I thought, was inordinately interested in the sex that went on within the SLA, particularly in the lesbian relationships. He seemed to think free sex was an integral part of the cell and I could sense that he simply did not believe me when I told him the comrades were more devoted to combat drills and training for the revolution than to sex. But then, even eminent psychiatrists have been conditioned to certain stereotypes which they take for granted. Despite all this and despite my own depression, Dr. West did get through to me in time and I tried to tell him of Cinque's interrogations, the threats, the metallic clicking of the rifles when I thought they were going to kill me, the sex forced upon me in the closet, the offer to join them or to die, the bank robbery, the criticism/self-criticism meetings, the weapons, the combat drills, the political indoctrination, my fears, my desire not to anger them, and my subsequent inability to escape or even to telephone anyone for help. All of this, or most of it, was extracted from me by the doctor very slowly and painfully. I was amazed at how much I had repressed of those early days of torture and torment. Ile mind, it seems, obliterates the memory of pain. But I also suffered losses of memory of some periods of time before my kidnapping. I could not recall, for instance, a single course I had been taking at Berkeley at the time I was kid-napped, or where my sisters had gone to school, or where I had spent my last Christmas before the kidnapping. Dr. West, as he would later tell the court, spent some thirty hours drawing out from me the infor-mation he needed for his psychiatric report. Dr. West also ordered a complete physical checkup for me at Stanford University Hospital. I was physically, as well as mentally, in pretty sad shape. For the trip
Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] Fw: AANEWS for Tuesday, May 11, 1999]
-Caveat Lector- CobolMage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Johanns, a Republican, was elected to serve as Nebraska's 38th Governor in November, 1998. Prior to that, he was Mayor of Lincoln, and issued similar proclamations while in that post. He told the paper, "I wouldn't hesitate to sign a proclamation for the Jewish faith, Hinduism, whatever." When pressed, though, as to whether he would extend similar treatment to a Wiccan or other pagan celebration, the governor demurred, and added that he would issue any decree "as long as it doesn't require me to sign something I personally don't agree with. Uh, this would seem to imply that either: (a) in addition to Christianity, the Governor believes in Judaism and Hinduism; or (b) the Governor has no idea what Wicca and other Neopagan paths follow. In fact, by appearing to endorse Hinduism, he has thrown his support to a polytheistic religion which is the epitome of a Paleopagan religion...which, of course, might also be said of some flavors of Christianity (Divine Triplets, a Divine Mother who shares the work of salvation...looks and sounds polytheistic to me!). Bob = Robert F. Tatman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Remove "nospam" from the address to reply. NOTICE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml POSTING THIS MESSAGE TO THE INTERNET DOES NOT IMPLY PERMISSION TO SEND UNSOLICITED COMMERCIAL E-MAIL (SPAM) TO THIS OR ANY OTHER INTERNET ADDRESS. RECEIPT OF SPAM WILL RESULT IN IMMEDIATE NOTIFICATION OF THE SENDER'S ISP. Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [1] From Major Jordan's Diaries
-Caveat Lector- an excerpt from: From Major Jordan's Diaries George Racey Jordan©1952 All rights reserved Western Islands 395 Concord Avenue Belmont. Massachusetts 02178 PRINTING HISTORY Harcourt, Brace edition published 1952 Free Enterprise edition published 1958 American Opinion edition published 1961 The Americanist Library edition published 1965 LCCN 52-6448 --[1]-- CHAPTER ONE "Mr. Brown" and the Start of a Diary Late one day in May, 1942, several Russians burst into my office at Newark Airport, furious over an outrage that had just been committed against Soviet honor. They pushed me toward the window where I could see evidence of the crime with my own eyes. They were led by Colonel Anatoli N. Kotikov, the head of the Soviet mission at the airfield. He had become a Soviet hero in 1935 when he made the first seaplane flight from Moscow to Seattle along the Polar cap; Soviet newspapers of that time called him "the Russian Lindbergh." He had also been an instructor of the first Soviet parachute troops, and he had 38 jumps to his credit. I had met Colonel Kotikov only a few days before, when I reported for duty on May 10, 1942. My orders gave the full title of the Newark base as "UNITED NATIONS DEPOT No. 8, LEND-LEASE DIVISION, NEWARK AIRPORT, NEWARK, NEW JERSEY, INTERNATIONAL SECTION, AIR SERVICE COMMAND, AIR CORPS, U.S. ARMY." I was destined to know Colonel Kotikov very well, and not only at Newark. At that time he knew little English, but he had the hardihood to rise at 5:30 every morning for a two-hour lesson. Now he was pointing out the window, shaking his finger vehemently. There on the apron before the administration building was a medium bomber, an A-20 Douglas Havoc. It had been made in an American factory, it had been donated by American Lend-Lease, it was to be paid for by American taxes, and it stood on American soil. Now it was ready to bear the Red Star of the Soviet Air Force. As far as the Russians and Lend-Lease were concerned, it was a Russian plane. It had to leave the field shortly to be hoisted aboard one of the ships in a convoy that was forming to leave for Murmansk and Kandalaksha. On that day the Commanding Officer was absent and, as the acting Executive Officer, I was in charge. I asked the interpreter what "outrage" had occurred. It seemed that a DC-3, a passenger plane, owned by American Airlines, had taxied from the runway and, in wheeling about on the concrete plaza to unload passengers, had brushed the Havoc's engine housing. I could easily see that the damage was not too serious and could be repaired. But that seemed to be beside the point. What infuriated the Russians was that it be tolerated for one minute that an American commercial liner should damage, even slightly, a Soviet warplane! The younger Russians huddled around Colonel Kotikov over their Russian-English dictionary, and showed me a word: "punish." In excited voices they demanded: "Pooneeshpeelotel" I asked what they wanted done to the offending pilot. One of them aimed an imaginary revolver at his temple and puffed the trigger. "You're in America," I told him. "We don't do things that way. The plane will be repaired and ready for the convoy." They came up with another word: "Baneesh!" They repeated this excitedly over and over again. Finally I understood that they wanted not only the pilot, but American Air-lines, Inc., expelled from the Newark field. I asked the interpreter to explain that the U.S. Army has no jurisdiction over commercial companies. After all, the airlines had been using Newark Airport long before the war and even before La Guardia Airport existed. I tried to calm down the Russians by explaining that our aircraft maintenance officer, Captain Roy D. Gardner, would have the bomber ready for its convoy even if it meant a special crew working all night to finish the job. I remembered what General Koenig had said about the Russians when I went to Washington shortly after Pearl Harbor. He knew that in 1917 I had served in the Flying Machine Section, U.S. Signal Corps, and that I had been in combat overseas. When he told me there was an assignment open for a Lend-Lease liaison officer with the Red Army Air Force, I was eager to hear more about it. "It's a job, Jordan, that calls for an infinite amount of tact to get along with the Russians," the General said. "They're tough people to work with, but I think you can do it." Thus I had been assigned to Newark for the express purpose of expediting the Lend-Lease program. I was determined to perform my duty to the best of my ability. I was a "retread" as they called us veterans of World War I and a mere Captain at the age of 44but I had a job to do and I knew I could do it. The first days had gone reasonably well and I rather liked Kotikov. But there was no denying it, the Russians were tough people to work with. As my remarks about repairing the bomber on time were being translated, I noticed that Colonel Kotikov was fidgeting
Re: [CTRL] Poor CIA
-Caveat Lector- Whats that old joke - we thought it was fool proof - to which was replied "yeh, but you don't know our CIA". Colleen Just kidding..I have known a couple that were pretty bright, but also pretty disgusted with their "superiors". DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Urantia
-Caveat Lector- i remember when i bought the urantia book and the guy i bought the book from told me that i was to get a mysterious phone call which i guess i was supposed to be amazed or something but seeing that i paid for the book via check it would have been easy to look up my phone number. i didnt get the call anyway. while buying some other books at the ufo convention this other book seller told me that i could not get "his" books anywhere else which is nothing but a lie because you can order any book if you have an isbn number. i found the whole ufo convention full of con men and liers, trying to dupe the public. robert DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [Re: [CTRL] Urantia]
-Caveat Lector- Joe New [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Kinda Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 1999 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Urantia -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 5/11/99 10:31:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: sounds like a lot of bullshit to me! Yes..this is the response of the majority of those that hear of the Urantia book. But remember..the majority isn't always right! Most people just aren't ready for the Urantia book. Joe Alright, in cleaning out my mailbox, it seems I deleted the original Urantia post. What is the book, what is it about, and was there a link posted in the original post? Please reply off-list so it won't clog the list, thanks. Scott Brown DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Urantia
-Caveat Lector- the reason i said that was because it has a history of faud. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Urantia
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 5/12/99 10:10:54 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: the reason i said that was because it has a history of faud. Hi Robert I understand. The only way to discover if it is fraudulent or not is to read it. It stands on its own very well :) Some of those who have read the book are frauds..but the book itself is not. Kinda Kinda DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Urantia
-Caveat Lector- what about the origins of the book? DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] New Virus
-Caveat Lector- Subject:NEW VIRUS * Someone is sending out a very desirable screen-saver, a Bug's Life - * "BUGGLST.ZIP". If you download it, you will lose everything!!! Your hard * drive will crash and someone from the Internet will get your screen name * and password! DO NOT DOWNLOAD THIS UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES!!! * IT JUST WENT INTO circulation yesterday, as far as we know. Please * distribute/inform this message. This is a new, very malicious virus and * not many people know about it. * This information was announced yesterday morning from Microsoft. Please * share it with everyone that might access the Internet. * Also do not open or even look at any mail that says "RETURNED OR UNABLE TO * DELIVER." This virus will attach itself to your computer components and * render them useless. Immediately delete mail items that say this. * AOL has said that this is a very dangerous virus and that there is NO * remedy for it at this time. * Mike Cummings * IBM Global Services * Site Manager - Texaco Denver Region * 303/793-4008, Texnet 621-4008 * FAX: 303/793-4557 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Urantia
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 5/12/99 10:47:56 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: what about the origins of the book? Hi there.. Here is an excerpt from some court documents about the origins of the Urantia Book... http://www.ubook.org/UBOrigin.html J.2 HOW WERE THE URANTIA PAPERS MATERIALIZED? Sources used for this section: HISTORY OF THE URANTIA MOVEMENT - A short historical narrative was "prepared by a group of Urantia pioneers, assisted by members of the contact commission - 1960" HISTORY OF THE URANTIA MOVEMENT - [Anonymous] "History Two" is an enlarged version of the above history, and is not dated. The added material includes writings that are probably from a member of the Contact Commission who also performed stenographic duties throughout the nearly fifty-year process. [Note #4] A HISTORICITY OF THE URANTIA PAPERS - Written by the only living colleague of the Chicago Physician. A video taped interview with this colleague was also used. A recently discovered cassette tape commentary on the origins of the Urantia Papers by a member of the Contact Commission. The appendix of Mind at Mischief, published in 1929. This book was written by the doctor involved in the case. It is certain that no mortal being knows, or ever knew, the complete story of how the Urantia Papers came to be. We do know that circa 1911, a prominent Chicago physician, psychiatrist, and debunker of psychic phenomena began treating a case of psychic activities that he was unable to explain. His involvement, bafflement, and intellectual struggle with these activities culminated in the publication of The Urantia Book in 1955. The identity of the patient will never be known. Some confusion exists about how the text of the Urantia Papers was materialized - it was a different process than the early activities of the contact personality. These early activities seemed - at first - typical of "channeling" activities. The patient spoke while in a trance. He also produced what were apparently "automatic" writings. Yet, there is no record - whatever - of any individual having seen him write. In fact, "History Two" states that: "During those early years, all of our observations and investigations utterly failed to reveal the . . . technique of reducing the messages to writing." Perhaps the most baffling thing about the early messages that were produced by the Contact Personality was their astounding content. The doctor involved could not explain the unique material, nor how the patient seemed to be able to produce it. The physician retained scientific objectivity, and was especially skeptical in the early years of the process. History Two states: "Those of us who early attended the nocturnal vigils never suspected that we were in contact with anything supernatural." Eventually, the doctor provisionally accepted the validity of the material that was being recorded. His unqualified conviction developed over many years, and was based upon the quality of the content of the Urantia Papers - and the precise philosophic consistency of the complex and voluminous material - not upon the puzzling and unexplained technique by which the Papers were materialized. Throughout his life, the doctor urged others to study and evaluate the Urantia Papers solely upon their content - not upon any phenomena that may have been associated with their appearance. The doctor, in the appendix of his 1929 book, describes the material as ". . . essentially Christian, and is, on the whole, entirely harmonious with the known scientific facts and truths of this age." He also stated that: "Eighteen years of study and careful investigation have failed to reveal the psychic origin of these messages. . . Its philosophic content is quite new, and we have been unable to find where very much of it has ever found human expression." A CLEAR LINE OF DEMARCATION It is important to establish a distinction between the early communications and the remarkable events that eventually produced the actual text of the Urantia Papers. After the Forum [originally 30 people] was brought into the process [circa 1924], they submitted questions to the "celestial beings" through the Contact Commission. According to the histories, the answers to the questions were written out - it was never understood precisely how - and formed a kind of first working draft for the Urantia Papers. The written materials were subsequently typed, the typed papers verified, and finally, the original written material destroyed. Eventually the typed copies were also destroyed, per instructions by the Revelators. It is clear that all of the text of the Urantia Papers was materialized in written form. The puzzling aspects of how this was done completely baffled the doctor and several other experts in psychic phenomena who were called in. In addition, at some point handwriting experts were asked to examine the written material. They verified that the handwritten material was not the patient's
Re: [CTRL] [Re: [CTRL] Poor CIA]
-Caveat Lector- Ric Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Robert Tatman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, I don't really believe that the bombing of the Chinese Embassy was an accident. Even the CIA ain't *that* stupid. What, you're under-estimating the stupidity of gov't workers? Hmmm... Ric "sometimes an idiot is just an idiot" Carter Problem is, everybody's doing just too much apologizing for this "accident." It falls into the category of "Methinks the whatever doth protest too much," IMNSHO. If it were really a mistake, the response would have been something like "We *what*? Oh-h-h shit. Hey listen, we're sorry, but that's the fortunes of war, you know... I mean, if you sit in the middle of a war zone, there's a strong possibility you're gonna be hit..." Instead Clinton and Albright and Blair and Jamie Whatsisface have done everything but kowtow to Beijing in atonement. And that smells very bad to me. With regard to the competence of the CIA, unless they really are incompetent (which can't be ruled out, of course!), ELINT will have been confirmed using HUMINT. They have *got* to have guys on the street in Belgrade--hell, during the run-up to Desert Storm, they had Green Berets burying themselves in the sand so they could come up behind Saddam's lines when fighting started, and SAS types in Lawrence of Arabia robes posing as bedouin on *camels* for Chrissake, so you *know* every intelligence outfit in NATO has agents-in-place all over Serbia. They *must* have known that the building their bombs were aimed at was the Chinese Embassy, if for no other reason than that they hit it with such precision. After all, this is warfare, not rocket science... [Note to the reader: If you didn't catch the last reference, it's about the inability of the Air Force to put any of its satellites in the correct orbit lately, thanks to sloppily-built "launch vehicles" (read "missiles") from Boeing and Martin Marietta.] Bob = Robert F. Tatman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Remove "nospam" from the address to reply. NOTICE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml POSTING THIS MESSAGE TO THE INTERNET DOES NOT IMPLY PERMISSION TO SEND UNSOLICITED COMMERCIAL E-MAIL (SPAM) TO THIS OR ANY OTHER INTERNET ADDRESS. RECEIPT OF SPAM WILL RESULT IN IMMEDIATE NOTIFICATION OF THE SENDER'S ISP. Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [Re: [CTRL] New Virus]
-Caveat Lector- Lola Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- Subject:NEW VIRUS snip BUGGLST is a hoax. Delete any messages you get about it--they're just wasting bandwidth. See http://www.datafellows.com/v-descs/bugglst.htm for more info. Bob (in my capacity as Help Desk Consultant) = Robert F. Tatman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Remove "nospam" from the address to reply. NOTICE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml POSTING THIS MESSAGE TO THE INTERNET DOES NOT IMPLY PERMISSION TO SEND UNSOLICITED COMMERCIAL E-MAIL (SPAM) TO THIS OR ANY OTHER INTERNET ADDRESS. RECEIPT OF SPAM WILL RESULT IN IMMEDIATE NOTIFICATION OF THE SENDER'S ISP. Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] New Virus
-Caveat Lector- This "Virus Alert", Is a HOAX, according to the McAfee website. Chuck in Missouri At 13:47 05/12/99 -0400, Lola Thompson wrote the following: -Caveat Lector- Subject:NEW VIRUS * Someone is sending out a very desirable screen-saver, a Bug's Life - * "BUGGLST.ZIP". If you download it, you will lose everything!!! Your hard DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] HAPPY PUPPY SHEDS LIGHT ON VIOLENCE IN VIDEOGAMES
-Caveat Lector- HAPPY PUPPY SHEDS LIGHT ON VIOLENCE IN VIDEOGAMES theglobe.com's Premier Online Gaming Lifestyle Publication Polls Users on Controversial Topic NEW YORK, NY -- (INTERNET WIRE) -- 05/11/99 -- Happy Puppy, a leading online gaming lifestyle publication since 1995, and part of theglobe.com network (Nasdaq: TGLO), today announced the results of its Violence in Video Games Survey. In light of the recent tragedy in Colorado and the attention surrounding violence in entertainment, Happy Puppy surveyed gamers to determine their opinion on whether or not video game violence translates into violent behavior in the real world. Happy Puppy ran the survey for four days and garnered nearly 3,000 responses. Over three-quarters of those surveyed were male, 39 percent age 13-17 and 36 percent age 25 and over. The majority of survey respondents were frequent players of games with violent content, with 68 percent agreeing that the level of violence in video games is acceptable for this form of entertainment. Only five percent claimed that violent games increase the likelihood of violent tendencies, while 73 percent stated that gaming violence has no affect on their behavior. More gamers felt it was worse to kill human characters in games versus fantasy monsters or animals. However, 85 percent felt that lawsuits brought against game publishers for violent acts in society were an ineffective attempt to decrease violence in our culture. "Any discussion of the mutual influence of violence in society and in entertainment needs to be handled delicately," said Elisabeth Crocker, publisher of Happy Puppy and general manager of theglobe.com network. "We felt it was important for gamers to have a voice in a public debate that could potentially impact creative freedom within the games industry." In comparison to other forms of entertainment, 80 percent of respondents felt that the amount of violent content in video games is equal to, if not less than, the amount of violence in feature films. Like movies, video games are subject to a ratings system to alert consumers about the content of the game. However, according to the survey less than one-third of gamers pay attention to ESRB ratings and the majority of children under 18 have no parental supervision while playing video games. About Happy Puppy Happy Puppy (http://www.happypuppy.com) was launched on Valentine's Day 1995, establishing itself as the first-ever commercial games site. With traffic numbering in the millions, Happy Puppy has been the leading gaming lifestyle publication on the Web since its inception. Throughout its existence, Happy Puppy has generated revenues primarily through advertisements and syndication. It has maintained a vast and loyal community through holding fast to its reputation of being the true voice of today's gamer. Happy Puppy is today part of theglobe.com (Nasdaq: TGLO). theglobe.com network is one of the world's leading online destinations in the United States and abroad. Approximately *10.2 million individuals visited the site in March 1999, according to DoubleClick, as audited by ABC Interactive. The intuitive design has been constructed to foster a user's creative and interactive experience, and is setting a standard for online networks by providing members with a wealth of services and content. * This number does not include the Attitude Network audience. -- Contact:Alex Josef, The Terpin Group Voice: 310-821-6100, ext. 106 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert F. Tatman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Remove "nospam" from the address to reply. NOTICE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml POSTING THIS MESSAGE TO THE INTERNET DOES NOT IMPLY PERMISSION TO SEND UNSOLICITED COMMERCIAL E-MAIL (SPAM) TO THIS OR ANY OTHER INTERNET ADDRESS. RECEIPT OF SPAM WILL RESULT IN IMMEDIATE NOTIFICATION OF THE SENDER'S ISP. Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please
Re: [CTRL] Serb Troops Invade Albania
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-05-12 08:58:38 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: See what I mean folks. The real objective here is getting the Moslems out of Europe. Albania has been a thorn in the side of the western world for a long, long time. And Albania is the only CHINESE Communist foothold on the European continent. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Devolution becomes reality
-Caveat Lector- Wednesday, May 12, 1999 Published at 16:47 GMT 17:47 UK Devolution becomes reality Devolution has become a reality with the first sittings of the Scottish Parliament and the Welsh Assembly. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk_politics/newsid_341000/341451.stm DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] GM pollen warning to organic farmers
-Caveat Lector- Wednesday, May 12, 1999 Published at 14:58 GMT 15:58 UK GM pollen warning to organic farmers Bees can carry pollen across the barrier zones set up around GM crops By Environment Correspondent Alex Kirby A UK Government-commissioned scientific report on genetically-modified (GM) crops is thought to say that GM pollen can spread over very long distances. The Ministry of Agriculture (Maff) confirms that it requested the report, from the John Innes Centre in Norwich. It says the report exists in draft form, but will not comment on it until ministers have seen it. Officials from Maff and the Department of the Environment (DETR) are to meet the Soil Association and other organic farming representatives on 14 May. The meeting, which was arranged some time ago, will discuss several items, including the report. It is believed to say that some contamination of organic crops by GM plants is inevitable. It is understood to accept the findings of a report two months ago from the National Pollen Research Unit. That said that GM pollen could be carried a long way by insects and on the wind. With maize pollen, "in normal weather conditions, pollination could occur at sites remote from the source (e.g. 180 kilometres)". Setting an acceptable level The rules governing official GM crop trials insist on just a 200-metre barrier between trial and conventional plants. The report from the John Innes Centre is thought to say that 1% of organic plants in any field could become GM hybrids through cross-pollination. It argues that "acceptable" levels of contamination of organic crops must be agreed. Organic crops cannot be guaranteed The director of the Soil Association, which sets standards for organic farmers, is Patrick Holden. He said: "We are implacably opposed to any suggestion of a minimum level of contamination. "When consumers say they want non-GM food, they don't mean food contaminated up to a threshold of 1%, 2% or 5%. They mean GM-free." Some scientists, while they agree that pollen can be carried far and wide, say that the possibility of cross-pollination is very small with many crops. The pollen grains lose their potency relatively quickly, and they have to compete with locally-produced pollen when they land on plants. Surrounding GM crops with plants of other species reduces the risk, because cross-pollination between species is harder than within them. But the scientists agree that there is no zero risk of GM pollen spreading, and no barrier zone capable of preventing it. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_341000/341818.stm DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [MC] and EVIL TELETUBBIES
-Caveat Lector- I just knew there was something eerily wrong with the whole Teletubbies phenomena. Thank you so much for this insight. I'll be sure to pass it on to my friends who have also had similar bad feelings about the show. TF DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] FEMA's X File: Not for the Outside World
-Caveat Lector- Yes, Please post the update. -- From: (Charles Overbeck) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] FEMA's X File: "Not for the Outside World" Date: Wednesday, May 12, 1999 2:58 PM -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 5/12/99 5:32:02 AM, you wrote: FEMA's X File: "Not for the Outside World" by Jon Elliston Dossier Editor [EMAIL PROTECTED] For those interested, we'll be posting an update to this story in a few weeks -- FEMA finally gave us a copy of the memo via FOIA request, and we'll post the document in full with the update. Peace out, Charles Overbeck ParaScope http://www.parascope.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Chinese Views
-Caveat Lector- From Wash (DC) Post Bombing Intended, Chinese Believe U.S. Explanations Widely Discounted By John Pomfret and Michael Laris Washington Post Foreign Service Wednesday, May 12, 1999; Page A24 BEIJING, May 11The most remarkable thing about the protests that have erupted across China over the last four days is that the great majority of China's best and brightest, from software engineers to academics to busines smen, believe deeply that the United States planned to destroy their embassy in Belgrade. Millions more people in the world's most populous country seem convinced that the United States is out to get them. From posters around the campus of Beijing University to headlines in the state-controlled press, the NATO attack on the Belgrade embassy is being viewed here as part of a long-standing American plot to contain China. "After the breakup of the Soviet Union, China has become United States' No. 1 strategic enemy, not only today but into the 21st century," read a poster that received close attention today near the Beijing University campu s. "While we are calling: 'Down with the USA,' " the poster said, "the United States is seriously engaging in work to overthrow China." The depth of these beliefs, which is hard to exaggerate, helps explain why China has been reluctant to accept apologies made by President Clinton. Chinese, from well-connected security officials to university professors, complained that Clinton's words lacked sincerity; several said they were surprised that the United States did not attempt to send an envoy to smooth the waters. Moreover, for a complex web of reasons, many people in China have no interest in believing the attack was a mistake. The Communist Party does not want to believe the embassy was bombed in error, because it can use the incident to deflect attention from the 10th anniversary of the June 4 government crackdown on democracy demonstrators in Tiananmen Square. China also faces enormous social problems, such as unemployment and official corruption, so a round of full-throated nationalism, despite its inherent risks, is seen by the party as a welcome distraction from domestic concerns. China's army and hard-line factions within the party and government also are uncomfortable with the country's current direction; it is becoming more capitalistic, less restrictive and more open to Western ideas. A round of nativist, anti- foreign demonstrations could be the antidote to such trends, these people think. Nevertheless, whether they were marching in angry mobs, gathered on university campuses or relaxing at a McDonald's, the Chinese view of the bombing has been unmistakable. Several dozen people have charged in interviews that the United States intentionally bombed the Belgrade embassy because it wants to keep China down. Over and over, people declared that the United States never would have killed three Chinese citizens if China were as strong as America. "It wasn't an attack on the embassy; it was that America wanted to make a point," said Zhang Bin, a Beijing software engineer. "America has a strategy. It wants to feel out China. It wants to do an experiment -- to hit you and see if you respond, to see if Chinese people will submit to this kind of American power politics." U.S. officials have said the attack was a tragic mistake caused by military planners who had relied on an outdated map. But people here said their respect for America's technological prowess makes it impossible for them to believe that explanation. "You have the best science in the world. How could you lie and say it was a mistake?" said Wang Yali, a 33-year-old award-winning documentary filmmaker, who has lived in New York. The background of Chinese nationalism offers clues to the depth of feeling about these issues here, where nativist sentiments coexist uneasily with a desire to be open to the world. The same people who are protesting today could be applying for U.S. visas tomorrow. For decades, the Beijing government's propaganda apparatus has beaten the drum of nationalism, exploiting a history of invasion by Western powers and the Japanese. The ruling Communist Party bases its legitimacy on its role in helping Chinese "stand up" in the world after more than 100 years of foreign humiliation. On the street, NATO is routinely compared to the alliance of eight foreign armies that, at the beginning of this century, crushed the Boxer Rebellion, an uprising of Chinese farmers against the depredations of Western imperialist powers. The government-approved slogans are also laden with history: "Down with American imperialism" has its roots in the Cultural Revolution of 1966-76. "America, paper tiger" dates to the Korean War of the 1950s. Conspiracy theories have always had great currency in Chinese society, in part because of people's restricted access to information. But the conspiracy theories stemming from the embassy attack border on the wacky. A Chinese
[CTRL] Fw: DRUDGE-REPORT-URGENT 5/12/99
-Caveat Lector- X DRUDGE REPORT X WEDNESDAY, MAY 12, 1999 18:01:44 UTC X ENGLAND'S SECRET SPIES NAMED ON NET; WHITE HOUSE ASKED FOR HELP The lives of dozens of British intelligence agents were today put at risk when they were publicly identified on a US-based Internet website. Reporters Richard Holliday And Mark Benham were first with the story that appeared in late editions of Wednesday's LONDON EVENING STANDARD. Word of the massive intelligence leak was spreading throughout Europe. The DRUDGE REPORT has learned that the White House got involved in the situation late Wednesday afternoon. The newspaper does not list the address of the website that published the names. The agents are all officers working for the Secret Intelligence Service (SIS), Britain's overseas intelligence gathering arm, formerly MI6. Rear Admiral David Pulvertaft, the Defense Advisory Notice Secretary at Whitehall - who gives advice to newspapers, television and radio on matters of national security - issued a plea to editors not to publish the address of the website or its contents as "such action could put lives at risk". Admiral Pulvertaft told the STANDARD: "The published contents could be gravely damaging. Officials here hope they will have this website removed as speedily as possible." He added: "How the information was obtained is also very worrying." Asked how many officers had been identified on the website, he added: "I would rather not say, but it is a large number." Last week the Government obtained a court injunction to shut down a website set up by MI6 renegade Richard Tomlinson in which he threatened to out British agents and reveal the location of MI6 offices around the world. - Filed by Matt Drudge in Key Largo, Florida Reports are moved when circumstances warrant http://www.drudgereport.com for steaks and breaks (c)DRUDGE REPORT 1999 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [Re: [CTRL] Serb Troops Invade Albania]
-Caveat Lector- Das GOAT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-05-12 08:58:38 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: See what I mean folks. The real objective here is getting the Moslems out of Europe. Albania has been a thorn in the side of the western world for a long, long time. And Albania is the only CHINESE Communist foothold on the European continent. And the core of the KLA cadres are old loyalists of Enver Hoxha, probably veterans of the Albanian secret police. Just the sort the CIA loves to recruit to run its drug-smuggling operations... Bob = Robert F. Tatman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Remove "nospam" from the address to reply. NOTICE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml POSTING THIS MESSAGE TO THE INTERNET DOES NOT IMPLY PERMISSION TO SEND UNSOLICITED COMMERCIAL E-MAIL (SPAM) TO THIS OR ANY OTHER INTERNET ADDRESS. RECEIPT OF SPAM WILL RESULT IN IMMEDIATE NOTIFICATION OF THE SENDER'S ISP. Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Urantia
-Caveat Lector- wasn't the Urantia Book designed to help American Christians accept the idea of being IMPLANTED - and is it not now some NSA and NWO scam ?? are the remote controlled teletubby generation Urantians ?? sort of 'live at peace with your implant' and don't be bad - and you ARE bad and abherrant if you don't want an implant etc etc Andrew Hennessey Transformation Studies Group Edinburgh Scotland DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Why GUNS are here to stay.
-Caveat Lector- During the Hungarian revolution many Russian tanks were taken out with "Molotov cocktails". Tanks are not necessarily unstoppable. In his book David's Toolkit (on Loompanics), Ragnar Benson passes on a great little story about a fight between some Israeli militia on motorcycles and a column of Egyptian tanks. The tanks were throwing up a dust cloud behind them as they tore through the desert. The bikers came out of the dust unannounced. The tankers couldn't hear them coming over the noize of their treads. The bikers wove in and out between the tanks and started flinging molotovs left and right just as prepositioned snipers opened up on the tankers' infantry support who were riding in trucks. The Egyptian infantry had to stop and dismount just to get clean shot off and when they did they shot at the snipers because that's where the incoming was coming in from. Can't say I blame 'em. They never even saw the bikers till it was too late. And this in the desert, homeland of tanks. Think about cities, homeland of molotovs. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Urantia
-Caveat Lector- As they say, different strokes for different folks; must read it, and find a copy. Thank you again; it took a lot of knowledge to compile this into one book...four sections, as you said. I am looking forward to reading; library did not have copy here. Colleen Am trying around. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] A Good Story
-Caveat Lector- During the course of World War II, many people gained fame in one way or another. One man was Butch O'Hare. He was a fighter pilot assigned to an aircraft carrier in the Pacific. One time his entire squadron was assigned to fly a particular mission. After he was airborne, he looked at his fuel gauge and realized that someone had forgotten to top off his fuel tank. Because of this, he would not have enough fuel to complete his mission and get back to his ship. His flight leader told him to leave formation and return. As he was returning to the mother ship, he could see a squadron of Japanese Zeroes heading toward the fleet to attack. With all the fighter planes gone, the fleet was almost defenseless. His was the only opportunity to distract and divert them. Single-handedly, he dove into the formation of Japanese planes and attacked them. The American fighter planes were rigged with cameras, so that as they flew and fought, pictures were taken so pilots could learn more about the terrain, enemy maneuvers, etc. Butch dove at them and shot until all his ammunition was gone, then he would dive and try to clip off a wing or tail or anything that would make the enemy planes unfit to fly. He did anything he could to keep them from reaching the American ships. Finally, the Japanese squadron took off in another direction, and Butch O'Hare and his fighter, both badly shot up, limped back to the carrier. He told his story, but not until the film from the camera on his plane was developed, did they realize the extent he really went to, to protect his fleet. He was recognized as a hero and given one of the nations highest military honors. O'Hare Airport was also named after him. Prior to this time in Chicago, there was a man named Easy Eddie. He was working for a man you've all heard about, Al Capone. Al Capone wasn't famous for anything heroic, but he was notorious for the murders he'd committed and the illegal things he'd done. Easy Eddie was Al Capone's lawyer and he was very good. In fact, because of his skill, he was able to keep Al Capone out of jail. To show his appreciation, Al Capone paid him very well. He not only earned big money, he would get extra things, like a residence that filled an entire Chicago city block. The house was fenced, and he had live-in help and all of the conveniences of the day. Easy Eddie had a son. He loved his son and gave him all the best things while he was growing up; clothes, cars, and a good education. And because he loved his son he tried to teach him right from wrong. But one thing he couldn't give his son was a good name, and a good example. Easy Eddie decided that this was much more important than all the riches he had been given. So, he went to the authorities in order to right the wrong he had done. In order to tell the truth, it meant he must testify against Al Capone, and he knew that Al Capone would do his best to have him killed. But he wanted most of all to try to be a good example and to do the best he could to give back to his son, a good name. So he testified. Within the year, he was shot and killed on a lonely street in Chicago. This sounds like two unrelated stories. But Butch O'Hare was Easy Eddie's son. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] FIRE FROM THE SKY - Nazis and such . . .
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.anomalous-images.com/text/FIRESK29.TXT A HREF="http://www.anomalous-images.com/text/FIRESK29.TXT"http://www.anomalous- images.com/.../FIRESK29.TXT /A - FIRE FROM THE SKY by "One Who Knows" PART 29: If you doubt the fact that the Nazis never gave up and that they planned to continue the war after their defeat in Germany, and planned to make a comeback to finally achieve their goal, then perhaps you should read the following books: Connell, Brian, *A Watcher On The Rhine,* William Morrow Co., New York, 1957. "Old wine in new bottles," how the Nazis have come back into power. Horne, Alistair, *Return To Power,* Fredrick A. Praeger, Inc., New York, 1956. "The struggle for unification, rather than any revival of Nazism, may one day force Germany out of the Western camp." Tetens, T.H., *The New Germany And The Old Nazis,* Random House, New York, 1961. "A frank and often shocking account which details how 'Hitler's own' have managed to return to power in almost every walk of German life..." Winkler, Paul, *The Thousand-Year Conspiracy,* Charles Scribner's Sons, 1943. "Secret Germany behind the mask." White, Theodore H., *Fire In The Ashes,* William Sloane Associates, New York, 1953. The fire of Nazism in the ashes of Europe. Sayers, Michael and Kahn, Albert E., *The Plot Against The Peace,* Book Find Club, New York, 1945. "...uncovers Nazi Germany's secret plans for a Third World War." Schultz, Sigrid, *Germany Will Try It Again,* Reynal Hitchcock, New York, 1944. Does the title give you a clue? Dornberg, John, *Schizophrenic Germany,* MacMillan Company, New York, 1961. "Is the new West Germany of the postwar years as democratic as we have been led to believe, or does Nazism still smolder?" Lord Russell, Brigadier, of Liverpool, C.B.E., M.C., *Return of the Swastika?" David McKay Co., New York, 1969. Russell was part of the Nuremberg prosecution team. There are more, these just happen to be the ones in my personal library. I read them, mostly about 20 or 30 years ago. I do not mean to give the impression that Germany is the source of the world's problems; Germany has simply been a part of a much bigger picture. Other valuable books that will give you insight are: Bacque, James, *Other Losses,* Stoddart Publishing Co., Canada, 1989. The truth about how Eisenhower murdered thousands of German prisoners of war AFTER the surrender. Many of those starving soldiers and piles of dead bodies you have seen in atrocity photos were NOT Jews, they were Germans. Don't argue with me, read the book. General George Patton wrote in 1945 that Eisenhower was using "practically Gestapo methods" in torturing and killing German POWs. You can obtain the book probably from *Spotlight* Newspaper if you can't find it otherwise. Sutton, Anthony C., *Wall Street And The Rise Of Hitler, '76 Press, Seal Beach, Calif., 1976. ALBERT EINSTEIN Albert Einstein is a good example of another deception and hoax involved with the atomic bomb program. When many people think of the atomic bomb they think of Einstein. He was presented as the world's greatest scientist, and a hero of the atomic bomb program. Upon closer inspection, you will find that his major contributions were his use of his influence to obtain President Roosevelt's support for the bomb and he was the one personally responsible for bringing the major Communist atomic spy Klaus Fuchs into the Program. The Russians know nothing about the atomic bomb until Fuchs brought it to their attention in 1942. (*Heisenberg's War,* p. 524). Thanks to Fuchs, (and to a massive amount of Secret material illegally shipped through Lend-Lease) they were able to explode their own bomb in 1949. Einstein was a communist cell member with Fuchs. Fuchs was the top scientist on the Manhattan Project and he gave the atomic secrets to the Soviets. (Jordan, George Recey, *From Major Jordan's Diaries,* Harcourt, Brace and Co., New York, 1952.) We are taught that Einstein is the author of the Theory of Relativity, yet evidence has come for the proving that the real author was Mileva Maric, Einstein's first wife. Einstein had a reputation at the Swiss Polytechnic Institute in Zurich of being a man with poor work habits and was often reprimanded for laziness during all his school years, including the University. He developed a romance with classmate Mileva who helped him with his math. His autobiography says "In my work participated a Serbian student Mileva Maric who I married later." She had an illegitimate daughter in 1902, which they gave up for adoption. They got married in 1903, separated in 1912 and divorced in 1919. This is when Einstein married his cousin Elsa. The original manuscript of the *The Theory of Relativity* submitted for publication had Maric's name on it as co-author. For more proof, see the article "Theory of Relativity - Who is its Real Author?" by Dr. Rastko Maglic and J. W. McGinnis, President, International Tesla Society, in the
[CTRL] FDR Scandal Page
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.clinton.net/~mewilley/fdr.html A HREF="http://www.clinton.net/~mewilley/fdr.html"FDR and the New Deal/A - FDR SCANDAL PAGE The greatest enemy of truth is very often not the lie - deliberate, contrived and dishonest - but the myth - persistent, persuasive and unrealistic. --JFK, June 11, 1962 You know I am a juggler, and I never let my right hand know what my left hand does. I'm perfectly willing to mislead and tell untruths...FDR, May 1941 (Morgan p 550) Karl Marx is going to win this war.-- Father Coughlin ADULTERY FDR Lucy Mercer Rutherfurd: Lucy was Eleanor's social secretary in the period before 1918. In September, 1918, Eleanor discovered a packet of love letters from Lucy to FDR. Eleanor later admitted, " the bottom dropped out of my own particular world I faced myself, my surroundings, my world, honestly for the first time." FDR and Eleanor immediately stopped living as man-and-wife. Lucy was dismissed but came back during FDR's later years. FDR Marguerite 'Missy' LeHand, his "other wife". FDR's son Elliot wrote in his book about his father, "everyone in the close knit inner circle of father's friends accepted it as a matter of course. I remember being only mildly stirred to see him with Missy on his lap as he sat in his wicker chair in the main stateroom holding her in his sun-browned arms...He made no attempt to conceal his feelings about Missy." FDR left Missy half of his 3 million dollar estate. Note: before FDR got polio, he was widely known as a womanizer and playboy. FDR his floozy cousin Margaret Suckley. As early as 1920 she was misidentified as his wife in a newspaper photograph of them at a ball game. Eleanor who was sitting behind them was cropped out of the picture. For details of their affair see MARGARET SUCKLEY CLOSEST COMPANION, by Geoffrey Ward, 1995. Eleanor Lorena Hickok lesbian affair- Hickok was an unattractive 5' 8" 200 pound reporter who moved into the White House to be near Eleanor. Some of the content of their letters to each other: "Hick longed to kiss the soft spot at a corner of Eleanor's mouth; Eleanor yearned to hold Hick close; Hick despaired at being away from Eleanor; Eleanor wished she could lie down beside Hick and take her in her arms." (Goodwin p.222) On March 7, 1933, Eleanor wrote to Hickok: "Oh! I want to put my arms around you. I ache to hold you close. Your ring is a great comfort. I look at it and think she does love me, or I wouldn't be wearing it." Enough? Eleanor and the much younger Joseph Lash- in a very funny scene, military intelligence bugged Eleanor's room in the Chicago Blackstone Hotel in March 1943 where she was having sex with Joe and sent the recordings to FDR. Probably because ER was told about it afterwards by the hotel, FDR disbanded the unit. He also read Joe's intercepted love letters to ER. Eleanor also had a long affair with Earl Miller, FDR's bodyguard. FDR's DISREGARD FOR LAW FDR was born January 30, 1882. FDR was a mediocre and unpopular student at Groton and Harvard. FDR became a failed lawyer (without a degree) in 1907, which explains his morals. 1910-1913 - NY State Senator. He told Rosenman in 1928 about his time as Senator: "I remember they used to call us socialists and radicals in those days." 1913-1920 - Assistant Secretary of Navy (he later bragged that during WWI he had "thrown money around like water"). FDR played the most sordid sort of ward politics with Navy contracts. VP candidate in 1920. THE BUTCHER OF HAITI - In July 1915 FDR, as Assistant Secretary of the Navy, personally led US Marines into Haiti to overturn the only independent black republic besides Abyssinia. By all accounts, FDR administered Haiti brutally and cruelly with no regard for lives. Even in 1920 after gross atrocities were reported in the media, FDR claimed responsibility but when that caused an uproar, he denied responsibility. In the campaign of 1920 President Harding said this: "Practically all we know is that thousands of native Haitians have been killed by American Marines, and that many of our own gallant men have sacrificed their lives at the behest of an Executive department in order to establish laws drafted by the Assistant Secretary of the Navy...I will not empower an Assistant Secretary of the Navy to draft a constitution for helpless neighbors in the West Indies and jam it down their throats at the point of bayonets borne by US Marines." SELF-CONFESSED FELON - 1 February 1920 before an audience of 1500 at the Brooklyn Academy of Music, FDR said, "Two months after the war was declared, I saw that the Navy was still unprepared and I spent $40,000 for guns before Congress gave me or anyone permission to spend the money." This action had been opposed by the President. FDR further boasted that he had "committed enough illegal acts"
[CTRL] [Fwd: War in The Balkans - CIA takes blame for targeting wrong site]
-Caveat Lector- Original Message Subject: War in The Balkans - CIA takes blame for targeting wrong site Date: 11 May 1999 14:37:53 - From: Activist Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Activist Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Activist Mailing List - http://get.to/activist We couldn't possibly blame the political leaders for incompetence even while they continue to claim that humanitarianism is their only motivastion; they lose control because they'd rather not micro-manage the proceedings. = INDEPENDENT (London) May 10 War in The Balkans - CIA takes blame for targeting wrong site By Mary Dejevsky in Washington As Nato and US officials were forced into a second day of apologies, the US identified faulty CIA intelligence as the source of the mistake that led to the bombing of the Chinese embassy in Belgrade, the costliest single error of the operation in terms of alliance strategy. In an unusual late-night statement, the US Secretary of Defense, William Cohen, and director of the CIA, George Tenet, said the mistake occurred at the planning stage and went unnoticed through subsequent checks. Four laser-guided bombs hit the embassy late on Friday after it was identified as a weapons supply and procurement centre. "Those involved in targeting mistakenly believed the Federal Directorate of Supply and Procurement was at the location that was hit," the statement said after an apologetic preamble. "It was the result of neither pilot nor mechanical error . faulty information led to a mistake in the initial targeting . In addition, the extensive process in place used to select and validate targets did not correct this original error." The statement concluded: "A review of our procedures has convinced us this was an anomaly that is unlikely to occur again. Therefore Nato authorities intend to continue and intensify the air campaign." Official determination that the fault lay in the initial targeting was an attempt to quash other theories, from pilot error to Serbian trickery. While the Nato spokesman, Jamie Shea, indicated that the Cohen-Tenet statement would probably be the most detailed explanation made public, it left many questions unanswered. It did not elucidate, for instance, when in the intelligence process the mistake was made. One theory was that information on the location of the weapons supply centre could have been culled from outdated maps. The Chinese embassy building is less than five years old and the new quarter of Belgrade has been developed in the past decade. As Nato officials stressed, conventional maps are not the only source of information, and are augmented by satellite reconnaissance and information from the ground. One of the constituent pieces of information - the map reference or identification of the building or the site - was incorrect: and the CIA is not saying which. As one official also noted, targeting concentrates on identifying buildings, not ruling them out. Any list of "undesirable" targets could have included the embassy and found its position coincided with that established for the supply department, but this would not have been done. Reports from Belgrade said the Yugoslav supply department was never at the Chinese embassy site. According to one theory, the CIA might have had information that the site contained a weapons bunker - but not that an embassy had been built on top. Another report, in a Turkish paper, suggested Serbian intelligence moved equipment into the embassy to receive information from China that would help in the defence of Belgrade against the US - and that Nato had set out deliberately to destroy that potential link, whatever the diplomatic cost. There were denials of this, including from China. The CIA admission that the building was misidentified at a relatively early stage appears to exclude one theory: that Serbian intelligence might have tricked Nato into a raid that would have untold diplomatic fall-out because of China's opposition to the war and the veto it wields as a permanent member of the UN Security Council. When Nato appeared to be moving towards accepting a UN role in a settlement, alienating the most hostile member of the Security Council would damage Nato's own interests above all. Serbian intelligence - or disinformation - has been broached as a possible cause of one costly Nato error: the bombing of at least one, and possibly two, refugee convoys near the Macedonian border four weeks ago. The favoured explanation is that Nato pilots, flying high to evade Yugoslav fire, misidentified the convoy. A small detail from the official account of what went wrong, however, indicated that the main attack was triggered by an intelligence report passed to the lead pilot from the Aviano air base that positively identified the convoy as military in nature. One theory, not expressly denied by Nato, is that this information could have come from an informant on the ground to trick pilots into a
[CTRL] Demolishing Conspiracy Bromides
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a364baad55b34.htm - Topic: CONSPIRACY DEMOLISHING CONSPIRACY BROMIDES JBS R.W. LEE This article originally appeared in the January 1997 JBS Bulletin Demolishing Conspiracy Bromides by Robert W. Lee In spite of overwhelming evidence to the contrary, many intelligent people continue to insist that the downward spiral of America and Western society into anarchy and the concomitant growing threat of statist world government are the natural results of the normal cycles of history. They argue, against a steady accretion of facts of already mountainous proportions, that the forces propelling us into chaos and tyranny are not at all attributable to deliberate direction by any malevolent conspiracy. Here are some examples of the most common, and increasingly implausible, objections to what should properly be termed the conspiratorial fact of history: The conspiracy premise is too simplistic. The issue is neither simplicity nor complexity, but accuracy. But, for the sake of addressing this common and simplistic dismissal, lets examine the issue of simplicity. Occams razor is a well-established test for reaching a conclusion based on limited information. It is named for the prominent 14th century philosopher William of Occam. Formally termed the principle of parsimony, it suggests that the least complicated explanation for a phenomenon that fits the known facts is most likely to be the correct one. Responsible advocates of the conspiracy scenario contend that the least complicated and most believable explanation for many of the destructive trends in politics, economics, morality, and other key areas over the past two centuries is that a secretive, incredibly amoral, well-organized movement has been striving relentlessly to make it happen. It is important to note, however, that this Master Conspiracy has not been responsible for all of our woes. The inherent faults of even the best of men and women are sufficient to assure an abundance of problems had the Master Conspiracy never existed. But the Insiders of the Conspiracy have indeed become masters at taking advantage of such human fallibility to make conditions far worse than could ever have been the case without their diabolic efforts. A Master Conspiracy could never survive from one generation to the next without coming apart or being fully exposed. Au contraire. The cult of the Thugs was an immense criminal conspiracy plaguing the whole of India for centuries, with its murderous adepts secretly placed in the highest echelons of politics, the military, banking, commerce, and religion. The British were involved there for over 200 years without even being aware of the existence of this satanic sect. When a brilliant young army officer, William Sleeman, discovered the horrible truth and tried to expose the ruthless cabal, he was met with disbelief and ridicule. Undeterred, he continued to gather evidence until, eventually, the proof of his assertions was so overwhelming that his superiors were forced to believe. Captain Sleeman was given the resources needed to systematically investigate, expose, and prosecute the Thugs, which he did with unswerving determination. Thousands of Thugs, including their acknowledged leaders, were tracked down, tried, convicted, and imp risoned or executed. Thus was India finally freed from one of the most diabolical and persistent conspiracies ever to afflict the human race. Unfortunately, there are all too many other examples of large-scale, long-lasting transgenerational conspiracies. The Mafia, for instance, managed to evade public exposure for generations. And even since becoming publicly known, and in spite of concerted efforts to infiltrate and prosecute it, it has resisted eradication. If, as claimed, the Master Conspiracy is comprised of only a minuscule fraction of the worlds population, how could it be so all-encompassing and influential? An examination of successful, large-scale conspiracies throughout history clearly reveals that a relatively tiny fraction of the populace acting in concert can indeed attain incredible power and influence. Far more important than the number of individuals involved in any conspiracy is the strategic placement of those conspirators. To the Mafia or the Cali drug cartel, for instance, the control of a single judge, prosecutor, customs agent, police captain, or newspaper editor whether through bribery, extortion, blackmail, or actual infiltration of one of its own members into the position is far more important than a hundred drug traffickers or other low-level operatives. Likewise, the Communist Conspiracy over the past 150 years has demonstrated time after time the ability to exercise enormous influence through the leveraged power of its strategically placed members. As an underground revolutionary movement in the last century, it was able to coordinate nearly simultaneous revolutions throughout the
Re: [CTRL] [SC] Skeptic News - Wednesday #3
# GM pollen warning to organic farmers. (BBC) A UK gov't report will say that pollen from genetically-modified crops can spread much further than thought, that some contamination of organic crops by GM plants is inevi- table. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_341000/341818.stm Chevy workers are notorious for their "pollination" behaviors! Particularly the three to eleven shift. You do NOT want to be in a bar within a three-block radius of a GM plant anytime between the hours of 11:15 pm and 4:15 a.m. Pollination and subsequent contamination of ovum are an inevitable consequence.
[CTRL] Balkan Klondike
-Caveat Lector- From www.sfgate.com Albanians Try to Take Over Kosovars' Crime Network War leaves drug, arms traffic up for grabs Frank Viviano, Chronicle Staff Writer Tuesday, May 11, 1999 ©1999 San Francisco Chronicle URL: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi- bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/1999/05/11/MN20212.DTL In the shadows of the war in Kosovo, a ferocious upheaval is reshaping the criminal landscape of Europe. As NATO bombs and Serbian troops disrupt a Kosovar crime network that has dominated the narcotics trade across the continent, underworld clans from neighboring Albania are making a powerful bid to take over. They are the real government of Europe's poorest -- and most lawless -- nation, and by some estimates even more dangerous to the Allied campaign than the tanks and anti-aircraft systems of Yugoslavia. ``Albania has become the leading country in a wide variety of trafficking, in clandestine immigration, in prostitution. It ranks as a top exporter of narcotics,'' the nation's own former president, Sali Berisha, charged in a January speech accusing his successors of corruption and links to criminal syndicates. ``Until recently, our heroin abusers got their supplies from Kosovars based in Zurich,'' Chief Jean-Bernard Lagger of the Geneva police brigade told investigators from Geopolitical Drug Watch (OGD), Europe's most respected narcotics surveillance organization. ``But now, Albanian traffickers have moved into Geneva to deliver drugs to their doorstep.'' Police officials say that the clans, known as ``fares'' in Albanian, have even begun contesting turf with South American cartels in the European cocaine market. ``The criminal mentality in certain fares existed before the war, but it was relatively small-time,'' says Michel Koutouzis, senior researcher at OGD and Europe's leading expert on organized crime in the Balkans. ``What the Kosovo crisis and the war have done is to elevate that mentality enormously, to push it to a much higher level.'' The clans have embraced what police officials call the ``Sicilian model'' of criminal organization. Put simply, this model works on the consolidation of a firm power base at home, with deadly influence on the political structure, from which domestic crime syndicates gradually build international operations. By the time NATO and hundreds of thousands of Kosovar refugees arrived in Albania two months ago, the consolidation was well under way. ``Whole districts and towns are actually under the utter control of the gangs,'' former president Berisha says. In the countryside surrounding the cities of Vlore and Durres, according to the French weekly Le Nouvel Observateur and other European periodicals, refugee convoys from the war zone have been held up by armed bands in the past two weeks, with young Kosovar women singled out and abducted. Elsewhere in the country, humanitarian workers and journalists from many Western news services report highly organized war profiteering -- including the diversion of aid shipments into the black market, bribery demands by customs agents processing the shipments in Albanian ports, and gang-run ``taxi firms'' charging as much as $120 to transport exhausted refugee families less than eight miles from the Kosovo border to the Albanian town of Kukes. The normal fee is $4. An unheated room for aid workers in Kukes today rents for $300 per night, in ramshackle houses that sold outright for less than $1,000 before the NATO bombings began. ``It's like the Klondike during the Gold Rush,'' Albanian journalist Frrok Cupi told the Swiss weekly Die Weltwoche, describing the profits being reaped from foreign military and humanitarian operations. Men claiming to be sales agents for the national telecommunications company have asked as much as $3,000 for the computer card necessary to connect a cellular phone with the satellite network. ``We should know from experience -- from places like Rwanda and Somalia and Bosnia -- that humanitarian agencies must deal with the local mafias in a war zone,'' says Koutouzis. ``There is no other way to get to the victims.'' Those who try to sidestep the clan syndicates do so at their own peril, in a land where the number of illegally owned Kalashnikov automatic assault weapons in some cities is greater than the number of residents. On April 30, the Associated Press reported that ``almost every journalist'' who has gone to the refugee camp at Bajram Curri in northern Albania has been robbed, including a team from the Associated Press. The Organizatio n of Security and Cooperation in Europe, which oversees the camp, has had two of its official vehicles hijacked by armed men. The U.S. Army's Task Force Hawk installation at the Tirana airport, outside the Albanian capital, ranks ``crime'' ahead of ``Yugoslav forces'' among the main threats to American troops in Albania. Locked inside a hermit country for half a century while the eccentric pseudo-Marxist regime of the late
Re: [CTRL] [SC] Skeptic News - Wednesday #3
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Cathy Laughlan [EMAIL PROTECTED] # GM pollen warning to organic farmers. (BBC) A UK gov't report will say that pollen from genetically-modified crops can spread much further than thought, that some contamination of organic crops by GM plants is inevitable. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_341000/341818.stm Chevy workers are notorious for their "pollination" behaviors! Particularly the three to eleven shift. You do NOT want to be in a bar within a three-block radius of a GM plant anytime be- tween the hours of 11:15 pm and 4:15 a.m. Pollination and subsequent contamination of ovum are an inevitable consequence. There hasn't been enough research in automotive botany to determine the precise consequences of such pollination, whether within strict GM environments, or in the wider range of Saturn, Toyota-GM and similar hybrids. [I never go *near* Fremont at shift change, and always carry sterilization gear when I'm in the vicinity.] Not enough is known; can we get a grant? DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Golden Capstone to be placed upon Great Pyramid on Dec...
-Caveat Lector- George Bush said he would be there New Year's Eve. Along with many others I guess. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The Illuminati Pyramid Grade Chart
-Caveat Lector- totally cool chart thanks DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Response to Jim Hickman of Skywatch
-Caveat Lector- I know this is a late response, I have been away from the list awhile. What "posts" are being refered to by Hickman that he will contact these people in an effort to have them stopped? Thanks for your attention and response. JOHN DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [Re: SKEPTICS RE: [SC] Skeptic News - Friday #2]
-Caveat Lector- Isn't Gumby that little figure that someone ran over with a steam roller? I know who Manson is; any relation to Charlie? DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Why GUNS are here to stay.
-Caveat Lector- "Howard R. Davis III" wrote: -Caveat Lector- nurev wrote: "Howard R. Davis III" wrote: On several occasions Nurev has threatened his critics with a future revolution of the people. He seems to enjoy fantasizing about a future revolution against the "capitalists" who he seems to fear will take over the government. I'm not threatening revolution. I am saying that the natural outcome of Capitalism is concentration of wealth. The natural outcome of the concen- tration of wealth is poverty for most people. The natural outcome of poverty is social disintegration. The natural outcome of social disintegration is dictatorship. And the natural outcome of dictatorship is revolution. I don't want ANY of these things to come about. But any fool can see that those situations would be infinitely more deadly if they occurred in a country with free access to millions of guns. (They haven't already?) Yet here he wants to take away their guns. What kind of sense does that make? Right! Like you gun loonies are really going to stop tanks with your 9mms and your shotguns. During the Hungarian revolution many Russian tanks were taken out with "Molotov cocktails". Tanks are not necessarily unstoppable. Also, TOW missiles might become readily available if a civil war were to erupt. Oh Howard you pick such unfortunate examples. The Soviets made short shrift of the Hungarian Revolution. However, as I am sure you realize, a well armed citizenry would be impossible to stop even if the opposition had help from outside forces (as they probably would). This is wishful thinking. It bears no resemblance to reality. The US Government is the most powerful entity in all of history. Your scenario of revolution becoming an inevitable outcome of the concentration of wealth is true. However, you keep calling this "capitalism". Free market capitalism does not lead to a concentration of wealth. It is only when capitalists are able to control the government and use its powers to limit competition that great concentrations of wealth are really possible. Please stop. This is the natural evolution of money/power in ANY system. This is Capitalism even if it is not by your ideal definition. This is it. This is what it does. It's no secret. Read some of the other articles that have appeared on this list about the Mellon family or the Roosevelt family and you will see that their great wealth was derived in large measure through the power of government. These efforts to amass great wealth were empowered by the creation of laws to the benefit of these elite. This behavior is due to the natural human tendency towards Elitism which is nothing more than an human extension of anthropoid hierarchy. Capitalism is the system invented by and for elites with excess capital. Money gets power and power gets money. Both together keep the elites in charge. This is not a result of the liberty I and others you so often demean advocate, but rather is a result of the growth in government powers which you certainly do not seem to deplore. Your concept of Liberty is like your concept of Capitalism. If this is to lead to a revolution, as you seem to believe, why do you want the people to be disarmed while the government (which you know is under the control of the elite you seem to deplore) is so well armed? It's a question of priority. Revolution is theoretical. Gun violence is immediate. Who the hell do you think you are impressing? No one takes you clowns seriously except your own delusional selves. So I am a clown and delusional? Please try to control yourself when addressing me. I apologize. I am speaking to you as representative rather than you as Howard the individual. You ( all ) are not taken seriously by anyone but each other and the politicians who represent some of you. I say this not as much to put you down, as to make you understand that you don't have John Q. Citizen on you side and you are loosing more fence sitters every day. Today, that awful establishment twat Elizabeth Dole came out for restrictions on guns. She didn't do this for the hell of it. Her pollsters see enough people on the right changing their attitudes about the availability of guns. She is also setting a line of demarcation between her and Baby Bush. This will be the " hot button issue " to turn out the Republican vote. I hope she looses because I just can't stand her accent. But the point really is the direction of the gun issue in politics. The NRA line of no give has brought you gun nuts to this. The NRA doesn't care about you or rights. They are the political action arm of the US gun manufacturers and they use the Second Amendment and suckers like you to keep pushing their over saturation of their domestic market. You want to get yourself killed for the gun manufacturers? If so, your are a fine example of evolution in action. Waco was
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Thursday #1
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990513a - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. * SKEPTINEWS CONTRIBUTORS/EDITORS WANTED NOW * KEEP THIS BULLETIN ALIVE * _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ SkeptiShorts: # Liposuction linked to 5 deaths. Doctors have identified five deaths of patients undergoing liposuction, raising questions about the safety of the country's most popular kind of cosmetic surgery. 5 out of 50,000 - wowie. Count'em at: www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2559522460-9a9 : Would you rather be liposuctioned, stay fat, eat carrots, exercise, die? # ONE MAN'S BELGRADE DIARY. Working on borrowed computers in the dead of night, a Serbian filmmaker spills his war experiences onto the Internet. www.wired.com/news/news/email/explode-infobeat/culture/story/19634.html : Can you believe anything you read on the Internet? Everything? Some? What? @ See THE CHINESE ROSWELL and an alien crashlanding near Tibet 12,000 years ago and an Alien Presence in the forbidden tomb of the first Chinese emperor Shi Huangdi, at http://www.newpara.com - or miss out on all the fun, eh? : Are old UFOs better than new ones? Did ETs stimulate ancient Tibetan life? # BRITAIN SHUTS DOWN SPY SITES. An ex-spy leads the British government on a worldwide chase with his threats to post intelligence secrets on the Net. The sites are coming down as fast as Richard Tomlinson can put them up. www.wired.com/news/news/email/explode-infobeat/politics/story/19620.html : Would you volunteer to mirror such spy-blowing sites? Do you feel lucky? # Star Wars tickets available. "Phantom Menace" doesn't open until May 19 but some fans have been camping outside Southern California theaters for weeks to ensure they're among the first to see the long-awaited prequel. Get the Force: www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2559522321-dfd : Is STAR WARS an evil meme that devours your brain? Is that what you want? # 'PHANTOM MENACE' BORES, ANNOYS. With stiff, unconvincing performances and a ridiculous sidekick, the long-awaited Star Wars prequel is a good kid pic, but a galaxy far, far away from good. I gotta bad feeling... http://www.wired.com/news/news/email/tip/culture/story/19648.html : Did you ever want to pin a KICK ME sign on Darth Vader's back? Why not? # SONY'S BARK HAS BYTE. Forget the Furby. Trash the Tamagotchi. Sony's new cyberdog can be programmed to do tricks and senses when you need some lovin', but it will cost you US$2,500 to collar one. Byte my baud: www.wired.com/news/news/email/explode-infobeat/technology/story/19622.html : What good is a robot dog if, wen you kick it, *you* hurt but *it* doesn't? # Flynt makes deal with prosecutors. Prosecutors dropped obscenity charges against Larry Flynt and his brother in a plea agreement that fines the Hustler magazine corporation and removes X-rated videos from a downtown store. http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2559521909-724 : Has freedom of speech been upheld? Is Flynt a Reptilioid? How d'ya know? # BIANCA FINDS NEW SUGAR DADDY. The online publisher of "literate smut" site Nerve agrees to buy the parent company of Bianca's Smut Shack, an online pioneer and still-popular community site. Did Linda Lovelace gag? www.wired.com/news/news/email/explode-infobeat/business/story/19624.html : Do you prefer your smut literate, illiterate, telepathic, implanted, raw? # Pope: Romania trip was historic. Pope JP2 called his recent trip to Romania "historic" because it was his first to a mainly Orthodox country. And...? http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2559519974-2d6 : What's the most historic thing a Pope could do? Submit to Mohammed maybe? # New mirror for Ireland's 'Leviathan' telescope. (BBC) What was once the world's largest telescope will once again be able to make observations of the night sky. The "Leviathan" is to be fitted with a new mirror and will look again at the stars and galaxies it first saw over a hundred years ago. Humungo: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_342000/342012.stm : Is Ireland suitable for an observatory? Do the voices in your head agree? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ SkeptiLinks: @ Bill Gates: Antichrist Superstar: www.konformist.com/1999/gates666.htm # BUGGLST virus hoax: http://www.datafellows.com/v-descs/bugglst.htm @ Abysmal Awakenings: http://www.creative-web.net/Abysmal/ @ Planetary Activation Organization (PA'O): http://www.paoweb.com and http://www.astar-usa.com Marker Found For The Most Malignant Brain Tumors: http://207.153.213.131/releases/1999/05/990512080218.htm Designer Molecules: Largest Protein Ever Created From Scratch Has Implications For Novel Drug Delivery And Diagnostics: http://207.153.213.131/releases/1999/05/990512080142.htm Scientific Trials Of "Wonder" Autism Hormone Treatment To Start:
Re: [CTRL] Why GUNS are here to stay.
-Caveat Lector- nessie wrote: -Caveat Lector- I wish to avert that violence because I live in this society, and I don't want to go down with it. If you think you can avert violence by not being ready to counter it, you are a fool. Violence is part of life; it is NOT going away just because some people wish it to. Violence has been part of life since the first aomeba ate the first protazoa; get used to it. I may be more used to it than you. I grew up and worked in the toughest neighborhoods in NYC. I was on the receiving end of a major war. Violence is not evil. Violence is not good. Violence just is. Not at all. Violence is failure. The only justification for violence is self defense. Real self defense not your paranoid fantasies of a future that may or may not happen. To equate the knee to a rapists crotch with the sap in a mugger's hand is an infantile thought process. That's kidthink. Grow up. Violence is like weather. Sometimes it's sunny. Sometimes it rains. When it rains do we hide in the house? No, we carry an umbrella and go on about our life. This is idiotic. Get yourself together. How many more people will kill each other with guns just so you can feel ideologically correct? 1000? 10,000? How many? And how many unarmed women will be raped so YOU can feel ideologically correct? How many frail elders will be murdered in their beds? For that matter, how many high school kids will die like the kids at Littleton died, waiting in vain while four, count 'em, FOUR SWATs hid outside behind armored trucks, waiting for the the perps to kill themselves and then waiting two and a half hours MORE before they dared to poke their cowardly pig snouts in the door? Those kids should NOT have been able to get guns. Then it is irrelevant that the police are useless. 911 is a joke. When trouble strikes, ready or not, we're on our own. Ready is better. Agreed. I'm not threatening revolution. I am saying that the natural outcome of Capitalism is concentration of wealth. The natural outcome of the concentration of wealth is poverty for most people. The natural outcome of poverty is social disintegration. The natural outcome of social disintegration is dictatorship. And the natural outcome of dictatorship is revolution. "An unarmed people are slaves, or subject to slavery at any time." -- Malcolm X So what's you point gun looney? Blacks have guns. Plenty of guns. Are they defending themselves from the government? From cops? Hell no. they are killing each other in droves. Same for hispanics, and Asians in certain areas. The immediate problem is access to guns. Not a Government too busy helping Wall Street rob the world. I am telling you that your philosophy will end in violence. And I'm telling you that YOUR philosophy will end in slavery. And it is better to live as a slave, than to die as a gun nut. Slaves get free sooner or later.If you don't agree with my statement, then put your pistol where your mouth is. Show me how dedicated you really are to the 2nd A. When the ATF comes for your piece, tell them " over my dead body." Prove Darwin right. I don't want ANY of these things to come about. But any fool can see that those situations would be infinitely more deadly if they occurred in a country with free access to millions of guns. And any fool SHOULD be able to see what would becoume of us if we lived in a country where only the government had guns. There are many countries where the population doesn't have access to weapons and they do very nicely. By golly ! But I guess not. It's coming. Just a few more massacres. Bye bye Smith Wesson. Joshua2 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Summation of Tesla's Dynamic Theory of Gravity
-Caveat Lector- E Mael wrote: while you were at it did you find any more filth on the good name of edison? No, I wouldn't say so. In fact, the more I read about both Edison and Tesla the more respect I have for both, while realizing more acutely their human foibles. If you are truly interested in understanding their relationship, I would advise reading the recent Tesla biography by Seifer (Wizard : The Life and Times of Nikola Tesla: Biography of a Genius (Citadel Press Book) -- Marc J. Seifer; Paperback). Here are some reviews from Amazon.com: Reviews From Booklist , November 15, 1996 What kind of genius can fathom the mysteries of electromagnetism but cannot keep corporate lawyers from taking him to the cleaners? Perhaps because his life did not culminate in wealth and acclaim, Nikola Tesla has largely slipped from the national memory. Seifer's biography rescues him from oblivion, bringing back to life the amazingly creative intellect that gave us fluorescent lighting, wireless communication, cheap electrical power, and the remote control. But Seifer also resurrects the wounded, self-destructive personality who never recovered from the loss of a favored older brother and who spiraled into weird obsessions, mental collapse, and poverty as he watched other men use his inventions to win fame and riches. Seifer does an admirable job of explaining his subject's technical feats and analyzing his psychological idiosyncrasies. Tinged with pathos, this meticulously researched biography deserves attention from all who would understand the human tragedies played out in the shadows of our neon culture. Notes, appendix, and bibliography. Bryce Christensen Copyright© 1996, American Library Association. All rights reserved --This text refers to the hardcover edition of this title Synopsis Nikola Tesla, credited by many as the inspiration for radios, robots, and even radar, has been called the patron saint of modern electricity. "Wizard" is the definitive biography of this founding father of modern technology of photos . Customer Comments Average Customer Review: Number of Reviews: 10 Christopher Wise from Hurricane, WV , April 13, 1999 tell everyone about tesla everyone in the scientific community should be informed about the struggle to get Tesla's work recognized. He was perhaps the most infuential scientist of our century. [EMAIL PROTECTED] from Saratoga Springs, New York , February 3, 1999 Fabulous book on the genious of N. Tesla, a MUST READ I read the 1998 softcover edition and LOVED IT! I first saw the name "TESLA" as a "brand" name on the television sets in eastern Europe. My curiosity up, I searched Amazon.com and found this book. I became a TESLA fan immediately! TESLA had the greatest inventive genius of the 20th century, and most of his key patents were filed in the 1890's !! HE WAS SO FAR AHEAD OF HIS TIME that some of his work is still labeled "TOP SECRET" by the U.S. government today. This book is a lesson in history, conspiracy, industrial espionage, science, corporate power and the sheer awesome genius of TESLA, whose name SHOULD be taught to every school childbefore that of EDISON !!! A reader from Lisbon, Portugal , December 21, 1998 The best Tesla Biography to date This book is without a shadow of doubt the BEST book on Tesla ever written. If you're looking for non-technical Tesla information, this is the book to buy! A reader from New York, NY , November 11, 1998 Tesla is a valuable target of study I really got a lot out of Seifer's book. The detail is excrutiating. The book flows as Tesla's life did, and it truly gives powerful insight.
Re: [CTRL] CIA Screws Up Again (And Again, And Again--)
-Caveat Lector- On 11 May 99, , Das wrote: The CIA was working with a map dating to 1992 and made by the Defense Mapping Agency, a Pentagon organization now called the National Imagery and Mapping Agency. The map shows individual buildings in Belgrade but no specific street numbers. And despite two updates to the map done in 1997 and 1998, the map still showed the Chinese Embassy in its former location in the old section of Belgrade. Ho ho hoand here we were worrying about spy sattelites that could read our license plates and peer into our backyards. Silly us. They can't even read a map or find the right map, for that matter? sno0wl DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [MC] and EVIL TELETUBBIES
-Caveat Lector- Yardbird wrote: -Caveat Lector- On Mon, 10 May 1999, Mark McHugh wrote: I remember reading a study back in the 80s about physical/psychological reactions to colors. Subjects were placed in rooms painted solidly with various colors. Pink stands out in my mind for some unknown reason. It produces a calming effect...for a short period of time. After about 15 minutes of sitting in the pink room, most subjects would be come agitated. Perhaps some other readers of the list have better information. I haven't seen this information since back then. -- Mark McHugh Really? I remember the study, unless there was more than one, in which pink was actually found to have a calming influence over time; especially in regards to prison populations. I'm not sure there were ever any experimental replications. Could be wrong on both accounts. I also remember the study. I believe that the color pink was used in the holding cell of a jail. This was an area where prisoners were kept when they first were brought in while waiting to be processed. It was observed that in most cases the prisoners were much less violent after a short period in this particular cell. However, I believe I remember that one prisoner was held there for several hours inadvertently (supposedly) and was so effected by the color that he was trying to scrape the paint off the walls. My understanding of color would be that the red side of the spectrum is stimulating and the blue side relaxing. However, it could be that the color pink had just a small amount of the stimulation effect and acted as a sedative in the same way that a small amount of drug stimulants such as Ritalin can cause relaxation in people who are stressed. Long exposure would cause one to cycle back into stimulation. Howard Davis DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Urantia
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 5/12/99 2:43:47 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: wasn't the Urantia Book designed to help American Christians accept the idea of being IMPLANTED - and is it not now some NSA and NWO scam ?? are the remote controlled teletubby generation Urantians ?? sort of 'live at peace with your implant' and don't be bad - and you ARE bad and abherrant if you don't want an implant etc etc Andrew Hennessey Transformation Studies Group Edinburgh Scotland Hi Andrew The vast majority of christians will not go near this book, so how can they be "misled"? The Urantia book EXPOSES the puppet masters behind the NWO and the NSA. You are way off base with your implant theory. Don't confuse the indwelling spirit of God with man-made biochips. Biochips are intended to control and manipulate. You can implant me with the spirit of God all day long if you like..but biochips...I will die first. Kinda DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [2] MELLOW APATHY FLUORIDE PAPER
-Caveat Lector- from: http://enteract.com/~mgfree/Medical/Fluorine/FluorineHalogen.html A HREF="http://enteract.com/~mgfree/Medical/Fluorine/FluorineHalogen.html"The UKOPRP: Chem_sen, FLUORIDE II: "WE ALL LIVE /A --[2]-- DELIBERATE LONG-TERM FLUORIDE OVERDOSE OF ALASKAN SCHOOL CHILDREN: Keeping Dr. Taylor's findings and his above heartfelt plea in mind, how can the following be justified by any sane scientist: According to the U.S. Department of Health Human Services publication "FLUORIDATION CENSUS 1985", which lists the current fluoridation levels of every fluoridated area in the United States, for the entire year of 1985 the U.S. Bureau of Indian Affairs (BIA) deliberately over-fluoridated four Alaskan village schools at the rate of FIVE PARTS PER MILLION, instead of at the currently approved rate of 1 PPM. The schools were Unalaska, St. Michael, Shishmaref, and Stebbins. Why were these unsuspecting people being thus experimented upon? How can five parts-per-million (a whopping 20 milligrams per gallon of water) be justified? Whatever the excuse, such covert slow genocide should be actionable in a court of law. That was just the 1985 record; previous years haven't yet been checked. (A subjective first-hand eyewitness observation, by this author, of the people living in Stebbins and St. Michael in 1995 gave a definite impression of a tragic spiritual wasteland; something seemed very out-of-place with those people, almost like looking into the haunted faces of prisoners in German death camps in World War II. Go see for yourself.) The EPA lists fluoride as a "contaminant." The above intentional long-term 5 PPM overdose of innocent native schoolchildren occurred when the EPA's "Maximum Contaminant Level" (MCL) allowable for fluoride was just 2.4 parts per million. In the early 1990's there was talk of having the EPA reduce the MCL of fluoride down to .4 PPM, due to recent studies that had connected fluoride with cancer. A challenge: Have some autonomous toxicologists with no special-interest axe to grind, do an honest, unbiased and thorough long-term scientific study of the residents of the above Alaskan towns. Also include a study of the residents of Hooper Bay, Alaska, where in May of 1992 a fluoride overdose severely poisoned 290 residents and killed Dominic Smith. (Since thirst is one of the fluoride overdose symptoms, Dominic just kept drinking water until he poisoned himself.) Study what has happened to the above people since fluoride became part of their lives and include their physical, dental and mental histories as part of the study. Dental health is, after all, why this entire situation began. If fluoridation was doing its job as advertised, then the dental health of Alaskan natives would be quite acceptable, but that's just the opposite of the way it really is. Note this 12/17/90 article in the Ketchikan Daily News: "NORTH SLOPE DENTAL HEALTH CALLED WORST IN U.S. Examiners reported finding active cavities among Native children aged 3 through 5 at three times the national average. Nearly three-fourths of the 62 native elders aged 65 or older had no teeth at all, the dental examiners said. ... The study population represented 38 percent of the total number of Alaskan Natives in the North Slope Borough." Examiners said 40 percent of elementary students had cavities, and 70 percent had cavities by the time they reached high school. In spite of the above poor record, in 1991 the Director of the Alaska Health and Social Services publicly stated, ". . . fluoride has substantially improved the dental health of Alaska Native Children." What's wrong with this picture? It's well-known that Alaskan natives today have almost the worst dental health in the country, in spite of having been subjected to fluoridated water for 40 years. (Incidentally, they practically live on candy bars and soda pop.) --Which leads us to ask, just exactly what causes dental cavities? On the average, each American consumes 20-50 teaspoons of refined sugar each day. Using 40 teaspoons as an average, multiplying 40 teaspoons times approx. 250,000,000 people totals 10 billion teaspoons of sugar sold EACH DAY, just in the United States alone. That's very big business. ADA AND U.S. PUBLIC HEALTH SERVICE ASSERTION: "GOD IS STUPID" Vested interests who sell fluoride and pharmaceuticals, or who repair the damage, would have you believe that God screwed up so badly in engineering man's teeth that ALL of mankind is now born with a permanent deficiency of fluoride, and thus mass medication--with a nerve agent--is the most cost effective way to correct God's stupid error. However, the facts state differently. Regarding dental cavities, refined sugar and soda pop are two of the top contenders, whereas a sweeping lifetime-deficiency of rat poison and nerve agents in our bodies is one of the biggest, most blatant lies in all history. Each year it's easy to find a school district science fair whereby a smart kid makes an experimental study
[CTRL] [1] MELLOW APATHY FLUORIDE PAPER
-Caveat Lector- from: http://enteract.com/~mgfree/Medical/Fluorine/FluorineHalogen.html A HREF="http://enteract.com/~mgfree/Medical/Fluorine/FluorineHalogen.html"The UKOPRP: Chem_sen, FLUORIDE II: "WE ALL LIVE /A - http://www.geofjoan.demon.co.uk/chem_sen/halogen.html The UKOPRP FLUORIDE II: "WE ALL LIVE IN A MELLOW APATHY, A MELLOW APATHY, A MELLOW APATHY" ~ "TELL A LIE LOUD ENOUGH AND LONG ENOUGH AND PEOPLE WILL BELIEVE IT." --Adolph Hitler. "FLUORIDE IS SAFE AND EFFECTIVE IN THE PREVENTION OF TOOTH DECAY, AND NO FURTHER STUDIES OF ITS EFFECTS ON HUMAN HEALTH ARE NECESSARY." (Official Dentist's Fluoridation PR booklet) "The plain fact that fluorine is an insidious poison, harmful, toxic and cumulative in its effects, even when ingested in minimal amounts, will remain unchanged no matter how many times it will be repeated in print that fluoridation of the water supply is 'safe'." Ludwig Gross, M.D., former Chief of Veterans Administration Cancer Research, Bronx, NY. For the past 50 years the US public has been very convincingly persuaded to ignore the fluoride issue, but the serious facts about this issue keep repeating, and the situation appears to be degrading. The growing widespread concern over public apathy, rising health concerns, and the apparent stupidity of our school children keeps mounting. This fluoride issue is offered as one of several possible important answers to that problem. THE HALOGENS: The Halogen family consists of five chemical elements: Fluorine, Chlorine, Bromine, Iodine and Astatine. (Chlorine and Fluorine are chief ingredients of the CFC's, that are causing the current controversy with the ozone holes.) Depending upon use and dosage, the Halogens have a varying effect on the human mind, nervous system and metabolism. For example one of the most popular current hospital anesthetics, "Halothane", contains Fluorine, Chlorine, and Bromine. BROMINE --The Australians reportedly issued Bromide tea to their soldiers in World War II, to decrease their sex urge and thus lower the incidence of VD. --Per a recent Internet search, investigators looking into the Gulf War Syndrome found that all 695,000 troops in the Persian Gulf War were involuntarily administered the unproven, experimental toxicity-enhancer, Pyridostigmine Bromide (PB) supposedly as a nerve agent pre-treatment medication. Officials estimated that approximately two-thirds of those troops took the drug for varying periods of time. However, DoD scientists who studied Pyridostigmine and nerve agent Sarin concluded that PB should only be used when the threat is nerve agent Soman; Pyridostigmine pre-treatment unfortunately makes individuals MORE vulnerable to Sarin. Defense intelligence knew before the war that Iraq did not manufacture, stockpile, or use Soman; just one Iraqi chemical plant was estimated to produce up to TWO TONS of Sarin per day, however. CHLORINE --Chlorine Gas and chlorine-bearing Mustard gas were feared in Europe in World War I, and they are still currently in the chemical-warfare arsenal of many countries. Chlorine gas was reportedly released in Iraq during the Gulf War. --Chlorine is widely added to U.S. drinking water today for the sole purpose of killing something, while natural water oxygenation treatments as used in Europe are much more safe for human consumption. FLUORINE --Fluorine is the most highly-reactive and chemically unstable of ALL existing chemical elements. Fluorine is not found by itself in nature, because it is so unstable that it chemically combines--violently, in many cases--with practically any other element. --Fluorine has the strongest effect of all the halogens. Fluorine is one of the major ingredients in the controversial psycho-active psychiatric drug PROZAC (Fluoxetene Hydrochloride), and also in deadly Sarin military nerve gas, U.S. designation GB. (Isopropyl-Methyl-Phosphoryl Fluoride). --While one lethal dose of Sarin would fit on the head of a pin, the U.S. arsenal stockpiles literally billions of lethal doses. In just two examples, 10 million pounds of sarin are stored in weapons at the Tooele, Utah Army Depot, and another 550,000 pounds are in the Blue Grass Army Depot near Richmond, Kentucky. (Page A4, Anchorage Daily News, Tuesday, 23 January 96.) Other countries--especially Russia--also have comparable stockpiles of nerve agents, if not more. Chemical Warfare (CW) research and manufacture is ongoing. --The nerve-gas Soman (GD) is chemically similar to Sarin (GB), and they both contain fluorine. They are called "nerve" agents because they directly attack and destroy the nervous system. According to an EPA report (following), once you remove the fluorine from Sarin, all that remains is a non-toxic acid. In other words, fluorine--the same fluorine that is in our drinking water--is what gives sarin its "kick". --The U.S. was openly selling nerve gas ingredients to Iraq as late as 1984, until the
[CTRL] Fwd: S99-76, Day 51, Update 1 (May 13; 0:15AM EDT) - A Special TiM GW Bulletin on NATO's
FROM PHOENIX, ARIZONA The Special Truth in Media Global Watch Bulletins on NATO's war on Serbia, such as the one enclosed below, can also be accessed at our Web site: www.truthinmedia.org which is being updated throughout the day. Issue S99-76, Day 51, Update 1 --- May 13, 1999; 0:15AM EDT HEADLINES Moscow 1. Yeltsin Sacks Primakov on Eve of Duma's Impeachment Proceedings Phoenix 2. Post-Yeltsin Russia: A Giant or a Midget? Belgrade 3. Kosovo Refugees Were Paid Actors, Yugoslav Minister Says Los Angeles 4. An Oaf Is Running OAF -- 1. Yeltsin Sacks Primakov on Eve of Duma's Impeachment Proceedings MOSCOW, May 12 - Russian president, Boris Yeltsin, sacked today his third prime minister in less than 14 months on the eve of his impeachment trial which starts tomorrow in the Duma, the Russian lower house. Yeltsin dismissed an increasingly more popular Yevgeniy Primakov in the same capricious manner which had marked his previous prime ministerial sackings - of Viktor Chernomyrdin in April of 1998, and of Sergei Kiriyenko last summer. And the Russian president appointed Sergei Stepashin, minister of the interior, believed to be a Yeltsin loyalist, as acting prime minister, pending his confirmation by the Duma, which is not expected to vote on the matter until May 19. The moves throw Russia into another political turmoil just as the country is struggling to redefine itself as a world power, through its mediation in the Balkans, and its warming relations with China. And the appointment of the minister of the interior as prime minister is a clear indication that Yeltsin may be worried about a creeping coup against him. For, the move is bound to alarm the increasingly powerful regional governors who have been seeing the Ministry of the Interior as a bastion of Moscow's central power. Furthermore, the appointment of a loyalist, like Stepashin, may also have personal implications for Yeltsin, TiM's expert sources on Russia say. For, Yeltsin and his family members have been under a relatively low-key investigation for allegedly embezzling some state assets, and transferring them into some western bank accounts. Yeltsin's seat is bound to get hotter by the weekend, when the Duma is expected to conclude its three-day trial and vote on his impeachment on Saturday (May 15). If Yeltsin is impeached by a two-third majority vote, something which our sources consider possible, if not likely, he will no longer be able to use his biggest presidential stick - the threat of a dissolution of the Duma, which he used successfully last year in strong-arming a reluctant Duma into confirming the 35-year old Kiriyenko as prime minister, but only on the third vote. And only to have to dismiss this NWO greenhorn a few months later. When the impeachment trial opens tomorrow, Yeltsin will face five counts: 1. That he is guilty of causing the Chechnya war and of war crimes in that civil conflict; 2. That he is responsible for the break-up of the Soviet Union; 3. That he is guilty of murder of thousands of Russian citizens during the October 1993 attack on the Russian parliament, which he had ordered (for more information on this, see "Yeltsin's 'Red October II,' available at our Web site - http://www.truthinmedia.org/Bulletins/tim98-3-10.html); 4. That he is responsible for the deterioration of the Russian military; 5. That he is guilty of genocide against the Russian people (through an economic and social collapse of Russia which his policies have caused); For more information on all these points, especially those dealing with Counts 4. And 5. - check out the many stories which are available at the TiM Web site in the Eastern Europe/Russian Affairs section (http://www.truthinmedia.org/Bulletins99/timgwbull-sample.html). When the impeachment trial ends with a vote on Saturday, even if he is impeached by the Duma, Yeltsin will be able to drag things out just as Bill Clinton did after the House of Representatives voted to impeach the American president last December. Russia's Supreme and Constitutional Court will have to rule on the legality of the impeachment articles. Finally, the Federation Council (kind of like the U.S. Senate), consisting of Russia's regional leaders, will also have to vote with a two-thirds majority to impeach him. But the Russians have never been known for changing their government through a drawn-out political TV soap operas, like the Watergate hearings, for example. Or the Clinton impeachment process, which ended up with a whimper in the corrupt Senate. And which helped convince most freedom-minded Americans that not only have the un-American New World Order bosses bought the White House, along with and all of its agencies and accoutrements; they have also bought and
[CTRL] Fwd: Konformist: Bilderbergers Meeting Konfirmed
Please send as far and wide as possible. Thanks, Robert Sterling Editor, The Konformist http://www.konformist.com http://www.konformist.com/1999/bilderberg.htm High Priests of Globalisation Demand Media Secrecy Further info critical of the Bilderbergers www.bilderberg.org Bilderberg Conference 1999, being this year,Caesar Park Penha Longa resort,Sintra, Portugual, about 45 miles out side of Lisbon,Conference dates June 3-6 Apparently they are (Bilderberg) are EXTREMELY unhappy at past media attention, and this Year will be continuing that policy on Tony Gosling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 1999 Bilderberg Meeting This information posted up on the www at http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Congress/7727/bilder.htm 1999 Bilderberg meeting - location and dates (unconfirmed) -- Dates: June 3rd to 6th 1999 Location: Caesar Park Penha LongaSierra De Sintra Located just southeast of Sintra which is 45 km northwest of Lisbon - Portugal Hotel details: -- Cæsar Park Penha Longa Golf Resort Estrada da Lagoa Azul, 2710 Sintra, Portugal Tel: 351-1-9249011 Fax 351-1-9249007 Hotel Palacio 2765 Estoril, Portugal. Tel +351-1-4680400 Fax +351-1-4684867 Golf do Estoril, Av. da Republica, 2765 Estoril, Portugal. Tel +351-1-4680176/4680054/4660367 Fax +351-1-4682796 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Source: http://x6.dejanews.com/[ST_rn=qs]/getdoc.xp?AN=455693870search=threadt hreaded=1CONTEXT=922044855.2061631488HIT_CONTEXT=922035388.1825308792 hitnum=0 -- Tony Gosling [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Congress/7727/ www.ecovillages.org/uk/network/index.html www.oneworld.org/tlio/ All sorted chat monitored: http://jya.com/stoa-atpc.htm Paranoid or complacent? http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Congress/7727/tonyhom.htm If you are interested in a free subscription to The Konformist Newswire, please visit http://www.eGroups.com/list/konformist/ and sign up. Or, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject: "I NEED 2 KONFORM!!!" (Okay, you can use something else, but it's a kool catch phrase.) Visit the Klub Konformist at Yahoo!: http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/klubkonformist @Backup - The #1 Online Backup Service Automatic, Safe, Reliable Backup and Restores. FREE for 30 Days. INSTALL Now and have a chance to win a Palm Pilot V! http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/218 eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/konformist http://www.eGroups.com - Simplifying group communications
[CTRL] Fwd: Konformist: WHY DID THEY DO IT? by Jon Rappoport
from: http://truthseeker.com/ A HREF="http://truthseeker.com/"Truth Seeker Company/A - Secret Behind Secret Societies By Jon Rappoport Excerpt fromThe Secret Behind Secret Societies: Liberation of the Planet in the 21st Century The way of the secret society is a way of life. At its root, it is not grinning skulls and sputtering candles in dark rooms. It is not that provincial. The secret society reflects one invisible tradition that has existed on Earth for a hundred thousand years. It is the main Way that people have lived on this planet There is another way, another tradition, more invisible, more powerful. This book is about these two avenues. It is amazing, at this late date, that so many people think power is merely a cake of clay that six billion of us are beating at with hammers. It is astonishing that so many people think power is a mound of lumps and dust that six billion of us are fighting over. Power has been taken by very well-run organizations. Major power. On the other side of the coin, there is a growing crowd that thinks we must invoke fire-eating lizards or Satan to explain how power has been stolen from us. This is a book about the organizations that have carted off something very vital in the middle of the night and how to get it back. More than that, it is about the exact methods used to unhook us from all that we are. I have done enough excavation to expose the central ruse, to show two invisible traditions of history. - Please send as far and wide as possible. Thanks, Robert Sterling Editor, The Konformist http://www.konformist.com If you are interested in a free subscription to The Konformist Newswire, please visit http://www.eGroups.com/list/konformist/ and sign up. Or, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject: "I NEED 2 KONFORM!!!" (Okay, you can use something else, but it's a kool catch phrase.) Visit the Klub Konformist at Yahoo!: http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/klubkonformist Rappoport/Shooting Position Paper The Truth Seeker Foundation WHY DID THEY DO IT? An Inquiry into the School Shootings in America Position Paper #1 by Jon Rappoport Investigative Reporter Why Did They Do It? An Inquiry Into the School Shootings in America is the first of a series of reports from The Truth Seeker Foundation The Truth Seeker Foundation sponsors investigations into vital matters that have not risen to the level of open public debate. The Foundation believes that in order to solve serious human problems, we must commit ourselves to uncovering deeper strata of truth that underlie public events, news and political discourse. Only in this way can we all create a more just future. (c)1999 Jon Rappoport. All rights reserved. No part of this publication may be reproduced or transmitted in any form or by any means, electronic or mechanical, including photocopy, recording, or any information storage and retrieval system, without permission in writing from the publisher. Printed in the United States of America Published by The Truth Seeker Foundation P.O. Box 28550 San Diego, California 92198 800-321-9054 Website: http://truthseeker.com __ Why Did They Do It? An Inquiry into the School Shootings in America by Jon Rappoport The massacre at Columbine High School took place on April 20, 1999. Astonishingly, for eight days after the tragedy, during thousands of hours of prime-time television coverage, virtually no one mentioned the word "drugs." Then the issue was opened. Eric Harris, one of the shooters at Columbine, was on at least one drug. The NY Times of April 29, 1999, and other papers reported that Harris was rejected from enlisting in the Marines for medical reasons. A friend of the family told the Times that Harris was being treated by a psychiatrist. And then several sources told the Washington Post that the drug prescribed as treatment was Luvox, manufactured by Solvay. In two more days, the "drug-issue" was gone. Luvox is of the same class as Prozac and Zoloft and Paxil. They are labeled SSRIs (selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors). They attempt to alleviate depression by changing brain-levels of the natural substance serotonin. Luvox has a slightly different chemical configuration from Prozac, Paxil, and Zoloft, and it was approved by the FDA for obsessive-compulsive disorder, although many doctors apparently prescribe it for depression. Had Eric Harris been on other drugs as well? Ritalin? Prozac? Tranquilizers? As yet we don't know. Prozac is the wildly popular Eli Lilly antidepressant which has been linked to suicidal and homicidal actions. It is now given to young children. Again, its chemical composition is very close to Luvox, the drug that Harris took. Dr. Peter Breggin, the eminent psychiatrist and author (Toxic Psychiatry, Talking Back to Prozac, Talking
Re: [CTRL] Urantia
-Caveat Lector- so tell me what you got out of it DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Urantia
-Caveat Lector- why would they want to control us by use of a biochip? DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [MC] and EVIL TELETUBBIES
-Caveat Lector- so, what about SOUTH PARK, what is the conspiracy connected with this cartoon? DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
