Re: [slim] Can SB access NAS without the SqueezeCenter turned on?

2008-10-31 Thread MrSinatra

andyg;355118 Wrote: 
 Not yet, but I'm working on a way for you to access local music while
 connected to SN.

andy, couldn't he do what he wants if he gets a NAS he can run SC on?

seems to me thats what infrant/netgear support officially.


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Re: [slim] Can SB access NAS without the SqueezeCenter turned on?

2008-10-31 Thread Michael Herger
 andy, couldn't he do what he wants if he gets a NAS he can run SC on?

No need to buy a new NAS if we can get basic UPnP support working. And  
those NAS manufacturers are slow adapting our software...

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Re: [slim] Can SB access NAS without the SqueezeCenter turned on?

2008-10-31 Thread MrSinatra

well, the OP said they want a NAS, so i'm going by what they said.


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Re: [slim] Can SB access NAS without the SqueezeCenter turned on?

2008-10-31 Thread Michael Herger
 well, the OP said they want a NAS, so i'm going by what they said.

Ok, ok...

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Re: [slim] Can SB access NAS without the SqueezeCenter turned on?

2008-10-31 Thread MrSinatra

the other point is they have 2 laptops.  is the SN/upnp going to be a
good solution for them?

meaning, will it work with their laptops and will they want them on?

i got the impression they didn't want that.

what about a NAS with a upnp media server built in but no SC?


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Re: [slim] SqueezeCenter (Mac) and Perl

2008-10-31 Thread Peter
WizardFusion wrote:
 I am running SC on my Mac Mini.  I also run a firewall called Little
 Snitch.
 Little Snich reports that the Perl tool is accessing the internet
 everytime SC want access.

 Now, while I do want SC accessing various internet addresses, I don't
 want a generic tool having access.

 Is there anything that can be done to distinguish that SC is requesting
 access, or is everything just lots of Perl scripts.??
   

Possibly. Go ask the Little Snitch people ;)

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Re: [slim] SB Duet connected with external DAC

2008-10-31 Thread DejanM

I played with SB Duet Settings. I turned off Audio when the unit is off.
I also set that when powered off, receiver should be stopped when again
turned on. But it does not work ... 

Now I see another topic with the same issue and I see that somebody
already opened the bug. So I can only hope that in the next software
release we will get something that works ... I do believe though that
the whole concept with powering on/off of SB Duet should be redesigned.
It should go in power off modus after certain period of time when not
used and in this mode it should release its digital outputs.


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Re: [slim] Can PDA with WiFi function act as remote?

2008-10-31 Thread lrossouw

where do we vote for squeezeplay for wm6?!


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[slim] SqueezeNMT GUI for the NMT(Popcorn hour) released

2008-10-31 Thread trotsky10

Hi,

I have written a web application which allows a Networked Media Tank to
browse your music library and control (rudimetary play commands) the
squeezebox/transporter etc

You can find details of it here:

http://www.networkedmediatank.com/sh...d.php?tid=9899


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Re: [slim] Can SB access NAS without the SqueezeCenter turned on?

2008-10-31 Thread autopilot

uPnP - mmm... could Any or someone explain how a NAS/laptop/PC with a
upnp server is going to work together with Squeezenetwork and your
local players? Im very intrigued.


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Re: [slim] Game On: Sonos has an iPhone app

2008-10-31 Thread Jim Wald

tamanaco;354910 Wrote: 
 
 I think Sonos sees the iPhone app as a compliment to their hardware
 remote. Maybe this app is there to fill the gap before they release a
 new and improved hardware remote. How many Sonos users own an iPhone?
 How many iPhone user know/knew of Sonos? I see this Sonos app  as a
 strategy to expose iPhone/iPod Touch users to the Sonos. The Sonos
 iPhone Controller is a free application. I doubt that Sonos introduced
 it to cannibalized their hardware sales. Is more likely that they are
 using it to introduce their hardware system to a big existing and
 growing population of iPhone/iPod touch users.

You are right.  I am sure that Sonos sees their official FREE
iPhone/iTouch app as a way to encourage more sales of their hardware. 
Sonos didn't develop their app because there wasn't a Sonos app on the
iPhone App Store.  There were already THREE Sonos apps in the app store
(a $20 one called ZoneMaster, a free lite version of ZoneMaster, and a
$15 one called Zones). Yet Sonos created a FREE app that virtually
duplicates their hardware controller (probably to the chagrin of the
guys that developed the $15 and $20 apps). 

And I am SURE Sonos didn’t introduce it to “cannibalize their hardware
sales”. I am also sure that most Sonos controllers are sold with the
purchase of a buyer’s first Sonos player.  Likewise, I am sure that
most SBCs are sold with a buyer’s first Duet, rather than as a separate
purchase. There are ALREADY over 10 million iPhones out there, and who
knows how many iPod Touches, and that number is escalating every week.
Sonos sees the potential sales of lots of their players to all those
iPhone/iPod Touch owners as being a lot bigger that the potential sales
of ADDITIONAL Sonos controllers to their existing customers as being a
compelling business model.  

As the owner of one SB2, two SB3’s, a SB Boom, and an iPhone (the
iPhone since the first week of July, 2007), and given the fact that I
ALWAYS have the iPhone in my shirt pocket, I would be the first to
encourage SD and Logitech to follow Sonos’ lead and develop a free
iPhone app for the App Store that duplicates the functionality of the
SBC, for both existing customers and for the same marketing reasons
that led Sonos to create a free app (even though, as I said, there were
already three Sonos apps in the App Store). With 10-20 million
iPhone/iPod Touch users out there, I can’t be the only one that has
both an iPhone or iPod Touch AND a Squeezebox.


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Re: [slim] Game On: Sonos has an iPhone app

2008-10-31 Thread amcluesent

I'm beginning to think the SBR/SBC design was a mistake.

The lack of IR on the SBR is major nuisance for those of us with IR
based remotes like Pronto which work fine with SB3/TP.

And the SBC is too expensive for what it does (yes, even with 7.3
activation of the line-out).

I'm minded that the community of Touch/iPhone owners and music streamer
owners has a huge overlap. Having a controller app for the Touch/iPhone
is pretty much a 'hygiene factor' for any supplier now.


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Re: [slim] Game On: Sonos has an iPhone app

2008-10-31 Thread autopilot

amcluesent;355213 Wrote: 
 I'm beginning to think the SBR/SBC design was a mistake.

If you want IR baster buy an SBc and an SB3. I'm not a developer any
more, but it seems to me the mistake was LUA - a language that very few
people know or want to know. The whole idea was to bring a product to
market that the third party development and enthusiast 'home brew'
community could really go to town with. That clearly has not happened.


I still think its a great product though. But in terms of what it does
for the money it costs, it's not anywhere near as good a value prospect
as an iPod touch/iPhone. Audio out on the SBc will really add a lot of
value, but IMO they really need to get the IR emitor working - then it
will be unbeatable.

As for the Sonos remote, i too would want a dedicated remote. Using the
iPod is a great move and i would use it if i had a Sonos and iPod/iPhone
- but they are hardly innovating, loads of people have do this already
(including Apple themselves). What surprised me at first was the fact
that a company that already knows plenty of people will pay over the
odds for thier products would hand out a completely free app. Not even
$5? And what about existing controller sales? But i really dont think
Sonos care about sales of the CP100 - What i suspect Sonos is actually
doing here is a canny bit of market research, and what better way to do
it? they are watching how this (solid and slick, but fairly
run-of-the-mill app) goes down and what people want, following the
progress of the SBc. My guess is that Sonos are developing a new remote
that will really trump SD/Logitech (touch screen, maybe even with audio)
which we will see in the not to distant future.


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Re: [slim] Announcement Squeezecenter 7.2.1

2008-10-31 Thread coppo23

After having upgraded to 7.2.1 and FW63 in my transporter I now have the
digital input bug (bug 4834 I think). This was fine in 7.2 with whatever
version of TP FW was with it. 

I now find I cannot use the RCA digital input - without fiddling
switching to other inputs first. Is the pain of going back to 7.2 and
previous FW on transporter likely to fix the issue as a temporary fix?
Has anyone else seen this?

(Apologies if this post appears elsewhere - I had a computer crash just
at the wrong moment and can't see my first attempt at the post - though
I had pressed the submit button just as it crashed!)


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Re: [slim] Can SB access NAS without the SqueezeCenter turned on?

2008-10-31 Thread Michael Herger
 uPnP - mmm... could Any or someone explain how a NAS/laptop/PC with a
 upnp server is going to work together with Squeezenetwork and your
 local players? Im very intrigued.

There's a device which is connected to your network as well as SN... your SB. 
It could do the bridge.

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[slim] Updating Squeezebox duet controller firmware

2008-10-31 Thread dtslllw

Hi, 
I have updated to  Squeezecenter 7.2.1. My SB3 firmware has updated
with no problems. My Duet however cannot update its firmware via the
Advanced/Software Update menu item. I get the upgrade failed try
again... message. I have read elsewhere on this forum that others have
performed this firmware update by using an SD card. Where do I find and
download the firmware software to put on the SD card? I can't find it
in the Downloads directory.

Thanks for any help on this.


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[slim] Transporter digital input problem FW63 SC7.2.1

2008-10-31 Thread coppo23

I have just updated SC to 7.2.1 from 7.2 and the TP to the latest (63 I
believe) having decided to avoid tip betas and just go with the main
updates a long time ago.

I have a digital input with a real CD player on it as a favorite (press
 hold 0 to get CD) I now cannot get any sound from the CD  player input
- was working fine before. I thought this was a bug fixed LONG long ago.
If I manually select digital inputs and scroll through I can get the
sound working in the end - but it seems to be flaky to get it going.

Has anyone else noticed this? 
Is there a work around?

It is particularly awkward as the main reason for the CD player on a
digital input is to allow the wife to play her 'real' CDs easily. I am
now in deep 'doo dah' again as it doesn't work any more.


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Re: [slim] Game On: Sonos has an iPhone app

2008-10-31 Thread Michael Herger
 A well written iPhone app is going to equal or beat the Controller in
 most areas:

I fully agree. But then we still have to see it happen ;-).

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Re: [slim] AAC Plus on Mac

2008-10-31 Thread whitman

Understood. I really must get from 6.5 to 7 ... though I'm largely of
the 'if it ain't broke' mentality. Still, the iPlayer plugin and a few
other goodies are making it increasingly tempting to take the plunge.
But while we're on the subject, there's no good (wiki or otherwise)
instructions about upgrading 6.5 to 7.x for Mac that I can find.


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[slim] Using Preamp volume control for duet

2008-10-31 Thread Stoffer

Hi.
I have a setup with an active speaker connected to the analog output of
the duet. 
But the volume is kinda high even when set to minimum volume.
So I have desided to use the preamp volume control in the
squeezecenter. 
But there is no difference in the volume output when setting the preamp
damping to 63 compared to setting it to 0. I have tried setting it in
squeezecenter to 63, and then reading it back from squeezenetwork,here
I also read 63.
Is there something I have to do additionaly in order to use the preamp
volume control ?


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Re: [slim] SC 7.2 problem with ASX radio

2008-10-31 Thread markr

Fransie;349593 Wrote: 
 It my problem is solved now (I think). I did two things:
 
 1) upgraded to squeezecenter 7.2.1-23496
 2) added the URL http://www.omroep.nl/live/radio2-breed.asx to
 'favorites' (in stead of 'my radio stations', which is not available
 anymore)
 
 I don't know which of these steps did the trick, but I am glad it works
 now. This issue seriously stood in the way of acceptance of the
 squeezebox by the other half of my household.

I'm quite sure the bug still exists. The ASX file contains two MMS
streams. The second stream is never tried, even if the first fails. If
it worked for you, that's because the first MMS stream mentioned in the
ASX file worked.

See also http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=9674 where the bug
is described. Bug 9674 should be reopened.

Mark


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Re: [slim] AAC Plus on Mac

2008-10-31 Thread bpa

 
 there's no good (wiki or otherwise) instructions about upgrading 6.5 to
 7.x for Mac that I can find.
 
You're right but since it is 10 months since 7.0 - there is unlikely
one to be written.

Not upgrading unless you really have to or you have a clean start (e.g.
new PC) is a very sensible approach.  If you do upgrade allow for 2-3
weeks settling down time when things don't all work as well as they
used to.  If you expect this delay then you will not be disappointed 
and if upgrade goes smoothly - then you'll be happy. 

If you do decide to upgrade then you will then decide which version 
7.2.1 has just been released or 7.3 which is planned for early Dec.
Immediate Plugin compatability for 7.3 may not true for all plugins.

General Points to watch.

1. Directory naming may change - Slimserver to Squeezecenter. Plugins
organisation changes and so locations of plugins may also change. There
are now two directories for plugins - one for users and one for SC
internal plugins.  Make sure users plugins are installed in the correct
directory.
2. Make sure you know all the Plugins you use and locate all updated
versions before upgrading to 7.x.  Be careful - some plugins will not
work with all version of 7.x.  Check for any gotchas such as Last.fm
if not in UK/US/Germany so you know what to expect.
3. Make a note of preferences - the upgrade should migrate them all but
some may be forgotten (especially plugins).
4. Backup your entire Slimserver installation so that you can revert
quickly if the upgrade goes pear-shaped.
5. Manage expectations of other users.
6. Don't upgrade anything else at the same time 
7. Check system specs. User interface changes with 7.x which can be
more CPU intensive. The old user interface is still available as
Classic but some Settings are only accessible with the new interface.


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Re: [slim] Game On: Sonos has an iPhone app

2008-10-31 Thread pippin

mherger;355242 Wrote: 
  A well written iPhone app is going to equal or beat the Controller in
  most areas:
 
 Sure. But this perfect app still has to be written ;-).
 
Not for the areas he mentioned.
The Apple remote, for example, fulfills those.


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Re: [slim] Updating Squeezebox duet controller firmware

2008-10-31 Thread Skunk

Forgot to mention, if you haven't rebooted the server since upgrading it
won't allow the Controller to see that an upgrade is available.


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Re: [slim] Album Review plugin?

2008-10-31 Thread mherger

Bert - are you running SC on Windows? You might need to install my
MHCPAN package for this to work. Screens are definitely looking good
here.

http://www.herger.net/slim/detail.php?nr=473


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Re: [slim] Updating Squeezebox duet controller firmware

2008-10-31 Thread Skunk

http://update.slimdevices.com/update/firmware/


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Re: [slim] Game On: Sonos has an iPhone app

2008-10-31 Thread andynormancx

tamanaco;354910 Wrote: 
 The Sonos app on an iPhone/iPod Touch is not perfect either. Not only
 does it have be connected to WiFi, but you have to start the Sonos
 application. What if the iPhone fails to start the app? What if you
 have to reset/reboot the iPhone? This is not not to say that the
 Controller won't face the same issue, but the potential for crashes in
 a multipurpose/multiapp device is a lot greater. 
Well written iPhone apps start up in under a second. The iPhone
reconnects to wifi faster than the Controller does. There is also no
issue with the iPhone having to wake up from suspend, like the
Controller has to when it has been idle for more than an hour.

At the same time the iPhone's battery life is better, while giving near
instant wifi reconnection and app startup.

A well written iPhone app is going to equal or beat the Controller in
most areas:

- it should be just as responsive
- the UI has the potential to be easier to use (the flick to scroll
approach to navigating lists on the iPhone works better than the
Controller's wheel and the iPhone can also have its handy jump to the
initial letter navigation)
- text entry will be far, far faster
- it reconnects to the network faster
- it never has to wake from suspend
- its battery life is better

Where the iPhone will lose out is the lack of hardware buttons for
volume and playback control. Picking up the Controller to adjust the
volume or pause will be a fair bit quicker than the iPhone app,
assuming the Controller isn't suspended of course.


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[slim] Get OS message on start since version 7.2 (I think) (Mac OS X)

2008-10-31 Thread iamnotmad

I get the OS message SqqueezeCenter is an application which was
downloaded from the internet.  Are you sure you want to open it?  

Normally you get this one time when you download something.  Once you
open it once the OS never presents this messsage again, but it comes up
every time with SqueezeCenter.  

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Re: [slim] Game On: Sonos has an iPhone app

2008-10-31 Thread egd

hah, interesting thread.  I'll bet the folks at Logitech are scratching
their heads over this one.  It will be interesting to see whether and
how they choose to respond - take too long deciding what to do or stick
to the Controller only route and watch their market share diminish or
maintain and potentially grow market share by quickly following suite. 
There's a lot to be said for first mover advantage but in this care the
barriers to entry for Logitech are low...the only question is whether
they're ready to cannibalize the Controller to stay in the game.


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Re: [slim] Updating Squeezebox duet controller firmware

2008-10-31 Thread dtslllw

thank you for that.

Despite using the sd card method, the firmware still will not update
(for either SC7.2.1 or SC7.3). Any other ideas? I won't be able to ring
tech support till Monday.

This means I will be running SC 7.3 with the SBC firmware that was
included with SC 7.1. Should the basic functions (playing music) work
OK?

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Re: [slim] Game On: Sonos has an iPhone app

2008-10-31 Thread egd

Anyone want to take a bet that after the remote war has been decided the
next big push is going to be value added content inclusion a la allmusic
integration on your wireless handheld remote controller internet browser
thingy...


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Re: [slim] Game On: Sonos has an iPhone app

2008-10-31 Thread HectorHughMunro

It's a clever move by Sonos.  The main thing stopping me from using
their kit was that I could get similar performance from the Duet for
much less and the Duet handset suited me better.  I already have a
'Touch' so the cost of switching for me is now pretty cheap.  I don't
intend to switch in the near term but If they establish a lead in any
area that I'm interested in, it's a possibility.

The remote for Itunes is quick, enjoyable to use and does make other
handsets feel 'clunky'.

The main problem for Logitech here might be that they would be trying
to make a business out of just selling one unit for £100 rather than
two for £240-£280.


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Re: [slim] SqueezeNMT GUI for the NMT(Popcorn hour) released

2008-10-31 Thread Merlinwerks

Link is not working...


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Re: [slim] Game On: Sonos has an iPhone app

2008-10-31 Thread Michael Herger
 Anyone want to take a bet that after the remote war has been decided the
 next big push is going to be value added content inclusion a la allmusic
 integration on your wireless handheld remote controller internet browser
 thingy...

Win!

http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=355264#post355264

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[slim] Streaming and Open Standards

2008-10-31 Thread Labarum

I am drawn to the Squeezebox solution to computer audio for a number of
reasons, open source and open standards being among them.

As I understand it the only software that is not free is that
associated with the receiving hardware. That seems a reasonable
business model. Slim/Logitech have to have some income from the project
or there would be no hardware.

I do wonder if Loigitech will licence this hardware/software solution
so it may be incorporated into other manufactures solutions.

It would be nice to have an open standard for audio streaming - that
would facilitate development and enable users to attach whatever
hardware took their fancy to the same network.

At the moment Apple, Sonos and Logitech and Linn have different
standards, and as others jump into the market it will get even more
fragmented.

Have I understood the issues correctly?


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Re: [slim] SqueezeNMT GUI for the NMT(Popcorn hour) released

2008-10-31 Thread 4mula1

Try this:

' SqueezeNMT '
(http://www.networkedmediatank.com/showthread.php?tid=9899)


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Re: [slim] Game On: Sonos has an iPhone app

2008-10-31 Thread ds2021

I really like the way their app handles multi-player control. In the
demo video, the segment where there was a master volume plus
independent volume control of multiple players impressed me. 

I have a Controller but am very eager to see an iphone app; regardless
of what strategy they take, I'd like the Slim team to start seeing
control from all interfaces more from this simultaneous multi-unit
perspective rather than consecutive single-unit control. Some of the
independent plugin (hopefully app soon) developers are starting to
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Re: [slim] Get OS message on start since version 7.2 (I think) (Mac OS X)

2008-10-31 Thread iamnotmad

well I moved the prefpane from /Library/... to /~/Library/...
That fixed it, I suppose this is a rights issue, I could probably fix
and leave it avail to all users, but it is fine like this.


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[slim] Artist composer problem

2008-10-31 Thread markwm

In squeeze center if I navigate to the following:

Music Library  Artists  Chris Cornell

I get 2 albums listed:

Carry On
Euphoria Morning

If I hit the all songs button, it starts playing Badmotorfinger album
by Soundgarden, Chris Cornell is tagged as one of the composers. This is
unexpected behaviour, how can I stop it happening? I didn't happen until
I upgraded squeezecenter recently.


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[slim] Now Playing list empties itslelf

2008-10-31 Thread mortod

I've been annoyed by this since, I think, I upgraded to 6.5.3, and 7.2
hasn't fixed it either. I find that the Now Playing list is often
empty, or has not been updated with what I had been listening to. I
always power off my SB3 between listening sessions (ie my remote sends
a 'stop' and then powers off my amp which has a trigger output to
switch the SB power supply on/off) - ie the power to the SB3 is cut
off. Not sure if that is relevant. Also I tend to listen to randome
songs, which might (not) be relevant.

When I next turn the SB3 on I want to be able to pick up from where I
left off last time, but more often than not the 'Now playing' list has
not been updated, or is even empty. I've tried changing the screen
saver whilst playing to 'jump to now playing' (which I think is a new
option), but that doesn't help. It does seem to behave better if I
manually view 'now playing' before powering off.

I'm sure it used to work OK (ie pre 6.5.3).


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Re: [slim] Game On: Sonos has an iPhone app

2008-10-31 Thread pippin

ds2021;355279 Wrote: 
 I really like the way their app handles multi-player control. In the
 demo video, the segment where there was a master volume plus
 independent volume control of multiple players impressed me. 
 
 I have a Controller but am very eager to see an iphone app; regardless
 of what strategy they take, I'd like the Slim team to start seeing
 control from all interfaces more from this simultaneous multi-unit
 perspective rather than consecutive single-unit control. Some of the
 independent plugin (hopefully app soon) developers are starting to
 think this way.

ds2021, do you read your PMs?


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Re: [slim] Can this still be done?

2008-10-31 Thread Club1820

erland;355064 Wrote: 
 It's only available in the player interface, not in web interface.
 You will get to it by navigate right on a track into the track details
 and then navigate right after you have selected the track title.

Thanks Erland.  I did try this on the SB3 but I don't have Track
Title as an option to select when I navigate right. Here is what I get
when I navigate right on a song that is currently playing:

1 Last FM: Love this track  
2 Artist
3 Band/Orchestra
4 Album 
5 Genre 
6 More Info:
Track #
File Format
Duration
Volume Adjustment
Album Volume Adjustment
Rating
Bitrate
Sample Rate
File Length
Location
Date Modified
ID3 Tag Version
7 On Last FM Radio  
8 Add to Favorites  

And that's it.  No Track Title.   

 

I do see that for those songs that I have the Year field in the tag
populated that you can navigate right and it shows you all the songs
for that particular year.  But no Track Title option.


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Re: [slim] Album Review plugin?

2008-10-31 Thread Bert57

Michael
Just saw this post and am at work right now.  I have dl'ed this at work
but will admit I am not sure about home.
Will check and get back to you.
Thanks for taking an interest in this.
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Re: [slim] What Anti-Virus software do you use

2008-10-31 Thread probedb


A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the
results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49644

Question: Which Anti-Virus do you use

- Avast
- AVG (free 8.0)
- Avira
- CA E-Trust
- ESET (NOD32)
- Kaspersky
- F-Secure
- McAfee (any version)
- Norton (any version)
- Other or None (please post a response)


Eset Smart Securitywas using NOD32 but decided to upgrade...small,
fast and good.


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Re: [slim] Game On: Sonos has an iPhone app

2008-10-31 Thread ds2021

Just responded, sorry.


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Re: [slim] Now Playing list empties itslelf

2008-10-31 Thread Siduhe

There are a couple of possible issues here - firstly, are you doing any
kind of automatic or manual rescan during the time your SB is off? If
so, it's very likely that your playlist is being wiped as SC rebuilds
the database. There's not much that anyone can do about that AFIAK.

If this isn't your issue, what is your Maintain Playlist setting in
Squeezecenter settings?  It should be Settings/Music Library/Maintain
Client PlaylistRemember Playlist.

Also, under Player Settings/Audio/Power On Resume - what setting have
you entered?


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Re: [slim] Can this still be done?

2008-10-31 Thread exile

I don't know what needs to be set for you to see track title. After
turning on the custom browse plugin, I now can arrow right into a song
and see the title and then arrow right again to see all versions of
this song in my collection. I don't think I made any special
adjustments to the plugin to make this happen. i believe it should work
in default mode.


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Re: [slim] Can this still be done?

2008-10-31 Thread erland

Club1820;355292 Wrote: 
 Thanks Erland.  I did try this on the SB3 but I don't have Track Title
 as an option to select when I navigate right. Here is what I get when I
 navigate right on a song that is currently playing:
 
You are seeing the standard track details menu, not the Custom Browse
version.
The Override standard track details option in the custom browse
settings should make sure the Custom Browse track details is shown
instead.

Is the Custom Browse plugin successfully loaded ?
Do you see a Custom Browse menu under Extras or Music Library ?
Are you using the IR remote, the controller or the web interface ?


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Re: [slim] Now Playing list empties itslelf

2008-10-31 Thread mortod

It's definitely not the rescan suggestion - I rarely rescan. 

For example I just powered off now (I had been listening to some random
tracks) , and powered on 5 minutes later, and now playing is again
showing an album I played some days ago. Actually in this case I had
rebooted the PC leaving the SB3 on. Testing again, the SB3 is beahving
OK so long as the PC stays up, even when the SB3 gets power cycled. I
think the issue is more related to the PC getting rebooted between
listening sessions. The PC also goes into standby after 15minutes of
idle (might have the same effect as a reboot). Does SC keep the now
playing list in memory, or is it written to disk at all?

'maintain playlist' is set to 'remeber playlist'


'power on resume' is set to 'pause at power off, remain pause at power
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Re: [slim] Streaming and Open Standards

2008-10-31 Thread dean

A couple of notes here:

1.  The core of the SqueezeCenter software is licensed under the GPL. 
Some components that are packaged with it are not (installers, some
graphics, fonts, etc...), so redistributing a version of SqueezeCenter
that uses these would require some kind of license with Logitech.

2. The protocols are completely open and folks are welcome to build
clients to connect to SqueezeCenter.

3. The firmware in the Squeezebox
1/2/3/Classic/Boom/Receiver/Transporter is closed source, alas, due to
some restrictions from the manufacturer of our CPU chip.

4. The software running on the Squeezebox Controller and SqueezePlay is
open and licensed under the Logitech Public Source License, which has
some restrictions on redistribution but is available for licensing.

5. We welcome OEMs and other partners who want to license hardware or
software.  PM me if you are interested!


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Re: [slim] Now Playing list empties itslelf

2008-10-31 Thread Siduhe

mortod;355329 Wrote: 
 
 'power on resume' is set to 'pause at power off, remain pause at power
 on'.

Is the behaviour any different if you change Power on Resume to stop
at power off, remain stopped at power on?


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[slim] Signal strength kbps

2008-10-31 Thread thekirbyfake

I have one of my SB3 in the conservatory so the signal from my router
has to travel through and exterior wall.  Thanks to the seemingly
horrendous wi-fi SB receiver (laptop, PSP etc. in the same room have
full strength) I often have issues with songs juddering.

I'm playing FLAC files at high bit rates (1000kbps) but when I listen
to radio stations the signal seems less interupted.  If I switch to a
lower kbps source (e.g. mp3) is it likely to solve the issue?


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Re: [slim] Now Playing list empties itslelf

2008-10-31 Thread mortod

Finding it difficult to repeat. Did just get the symptons by rebooting
PC whilst playing, with that setting on 'pause'. When I changed it to
'stop' it oddly seems to corrupt the original now playing list (ie just
4 tracks from the album showing). In any case I have the feeling that
this happens more often than I reboot.

Think I need to keep an eye on it so I can describe a repeatable
sequence that gives the behaviour. You'd think I know after a year of
living with this. Will post back in due course.


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Re: [slim] Game On: Sonos has an iPhone app

2008-10-31 Thread PRGeno

tamanaco;355346 Wrote: 
 I'm really taken by the devotion of iPhone users. This is a compliment.
 I guess my issue with the iPhone or any cell phone as a remote is
 that I get too many calls and emails. Even after hours. After I get
 home from work I put my phone on its charger and don't want to go near
 it for fear that I might end up doing some more work. Or with the
 current  downsizing trend I don't want to get the news that I'm one of
 the lucky ones selected for an extended vacation. I want to be left
 alone while I'm at home listening to my SqueezeBox. In my case, I see
 the iTouch as a better option for the Sonos solution. I agree about the
 touchscreen interface of the iPhone/iTouch... it leaves a lot to be
 desired as I compare with a traditional remotes with physical buttons.
 Call me old fashion, but I want buttons in my remote. As I said before,
 for me listening to music is more of a passive activity than an
 interactive one. I want to hold a beer (an IPA preferably) on one
 hand and the remote on the other and without looking at the remote
 lower/raise the volume or skip to the next song. I am not one of those
 folks that can handle a touchscreen with one hand without looking at
 it. Having to use two hands to use my remote forces me to put down my
 beer. That's a no, no... after a long day. I have played with the
 Phillips Pronto and with the not too popular Harmony 1000. These had
 ergonomically efficient physical buttons for certain frequently used
 functions. I don't see these in the iPhone/iTouch. Not having at least
 a comfortable volume up/down button would drive me up a wall.
 Touchscreens are the trend, but I'm afraid that it also has its
 limitations as a remote. A combination of ergonomically placed buttons
 and a touchscreen would be best.  Seeing all these iPhones  I'm
 thinking I need to go to touchscreen school.


I might not be as popular as you, but I have never gotten a phone call
on my iPod Touch grin. 

My iTouch lays around like the SB Controller would (use to), and my
iPhone is usually on my person, so it can be used at a moment's notice
as well (although there is that chance someone might call me on that
one).

I'm not a fan of Apple's but this really is slick as a controller.  I
like physical buttons on my remotes too, but is not a remote.  It's a
controller with a view into SC, without having to look at the front
panel of my SBs, or even be in the same room.  I'm quite sure
touchscreen school would be a very short class for someone like
yourself.

So if we can just get a native iPhone/Touch app, life would be truly
grand.  iPeng is nice, and pippen did a great job with it.  But being a
Safari app, it can never match the performance and smoothness of a well
done native iApp.  

There simply is no down side to this.  Those who don't get it, don't
have to get it.  Sonos, and their users, seem to have gotten it
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Re: [slim] Game On: Sonos has an iPhone app

2008-10-31 Thread tamanaco

andynormancx;355227 Wrote: 
 Well written iPhone apps start up in under a second. The iPhone
 reconnects to wifi faster than the Controller does. There is also no
 issue with the iPhone having to wake up from suspend, like the
 Controller has to when it has been idle for more than an hour.
 
 At the same time the iPhone's battery life is better, while giving near
 instant wifi reconnection and app startup.
 
 A well written iPhone app is going to equal or beat the Controller in
 most areas:
 
 - it should be just as responsive
 - the UI has the potential to be easier to use (the flick to scroll
 approach to navigating lists on the iPhone works better than the
 Controller's wheel and the iPhone can also have its handy jump to the
 initial letter navigation)
 - text entry will be far, far faster
 - it reconnects to the network faster
 - it never has to wake from suspend
 - its battery life is better
 
 Where the iPhone will lose out is the lack of hardware buttons for
 volume and playback control. Picking up the Controller to adjust the
 volume or pause will be a fair bit quicker than the iPhone app,
 assuming the Controller isn't suspended of course.
 
 I guess I should say that I own an iPhone 3G and a Controller. They are
 both great devices in their own ways. I could probably live without the
 Controller, I find it hard to see how I lived before the iPhone, sad eh
 ? ;)

I'm really taken by the devotion of iPhone users. This is a compliment.
I guess my issue with the iPhone or any cell phone as a remote is that
I get too many calls and emails. Even after hours. After I get home from
work I put my phone on its charger and don't want to go near it for fear
that I might end up doing some more work. Or with the current 
downsizing trend I don't want to get the news that I'm one of the lucky
ones selected for an extended vacation. I want to be left alone while
I'm at home listening to my SqueezeBox. In my case, I see the iTouch as
a better option for the Sonos solution. I agree about the touchscreen
interface of the iPhone/iTouch... it leaves a lot to be desired as I
compare with a traditional remotes with physical buttons. Call me old
fashion, but I want buttons in my remote. As I said before, for me
listening to music is more of a passive activity than an
interactive one. I want to hold a beer (an IPA preferably) on one
hand and the remote on the other and without looking at the remote
lower/raise the volume or skip to the next song. I am not one of those
folks that can handle a touchscreen with one hand without looking at
it. Having to use two hands to use my remote forces me to put down my
beer. That's a no, no... after a long day. I have played with the
Phillips Pronto and with the not too popular Harmony 1000. These had
ergonomically efficient physical buttons for certain frequently used
functions. I don't see these in the iPhone/iTouch. Not having at least
a comfortable volume up/down button would drive me up a wall.
Touchscreens are the trend, but I'm afraid that it also has its
limitations as a remote. A combination of ergonomically placed buttons
and a touchscreen would be best.  Seeing all these iPhones  I'm
thinking I need to go to touchscreen school.


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Re: [slim] Streaming and Open Standards

2008-10-31 Thread Labarum

dean;355332 Wrote: 
 
 
 5. We welcome OEMs and other partners who want to license hardware or
 software.  PM me if you are interested!

Thanks for your prompt an official response.

I am just on very new and interested end user, so I won't be applying
for manufacturing licences. I do, however, see some sort of format
waras streaming becomes more common. It would be better for users and
manufacturers if such nonsense could be avoided. iTunes won't even play
or stream FLAC - what nonsense.

I just took delivery of my AB3 an hour ago. I have has Squeezecentre
installed for a while and have been getting used to it with
Softsqueeze. The hardware looks nicely made.

I look at the Transporter and its price (which I could afford), but do
I want to pay the premium, given that I have a competent DAC already?
Most music available is still 16/44 and looking to the future 24/96 may
not be good enough for the best classical downloads.

So I am find my way forward slowly.

Thanks for your time and interest


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Re: [slim] Signal strength kbps

2008-10-31 Thread Phil Leigh

thekirbyfake;355345 Wrote: 
 I have one of my SB3 in the conservatory so the signal from my router
 has to travel through and exterior wall.  Thanks to the seemingly
 horrendous wi-fi SB receiver (laptop, PSP etc. in the same room have
 full strength) I often have issues with songs juddering.
 
 I'm playing FLAC files at high bit rates (1000kbps) but when I listen
 to radio stations the signal seems less interupted.  If I switch to a
 lower kbps source (e.g. mp3) is it likely to solve the issue?

to keep the answer short - yes it should. Try bitrate limiting to 256 -
you will probably find there is no real notieable difference in quality
in a conservatory. I know from experience...all that glass...


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Re: [slim] Game On: Sonos has an iPhone app

2008-10-31 Thread ajkidle

tamanaco;355346 Wrote: 
 I want to hold a beer (an IPA preferably) on one hand and the remote on
 the other and without looking at the remote lower/raise the volume or
 skip to the next song.

I know it risks going off topic, but I couldn't let the IPA thing go
without commenting.  Nothing better than a good IPA.

I'll throw my two cents in to say that an official (or native) iPod
Touch app would be enough to get me to buy an iPod and give it a try. 
(I own the Duet bundle.)  Obviously selling more iPods is not in
Logitech's interest, but when I use a Touch to control the SBR, it'll
be that much easier to rope friends  family into the cool world of
Squeezebox.  It'd be a huge selling point for the platform, methinks.


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Re: [slim] My Radio Stations Plugin

2008-10-31 Thread softsantear

I'm wondering where this went, too!  Upgraded to the latest build and
it's gone.


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Re: [slim] My Radio Stations Plugin

2008-10-31 Thread toby10

softsantear;355374 Wrote: 
 I'm wondering where this went, too!  Upgraded to the latest build and
 it's gone.

For some reason they removed this in SC7.2.1

No explanation why they did this, that I'm aware of.

I'm on 7.2 and I still have it.


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Re: [slim] 7.2.1 and Turn Off Audio

2008-10-31 Thread USAudio

Jerome R.;355155 Wrote: 
 ...
 There is an open bug (#1397) for that specific issue:
 http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1397
 ...
 

Thanks for pointing me to that Bug report Jerome and I completely agree
with your comment on the bug.
It's targeted to 7.3 but I don't understand how the bug severity is
Enhancement and the priority is a P3???  
IMHO, it should be severity Major and a priority P2.  According to
the comments this has been an on again/off again issue since 4/2005 ...


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Re: [slim] My Radio Stations Plugin

2008-10-31 Thread kdf

 softsantear;355374 Wrote:
 I'm wondering where this went, too!  Upgraded to the latest build and
 it's gone.

 For some reason they removed this in SC7.2.1

 No explanation why they did this, that I'm aware of.

Andy gives the explanation quite succinctly is in this thread:
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=52599

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[slim] Favorite Pluggins?

2008-10-31 Thread Bert57

I am a relative newbie to Squeezecenter and in reading this forum I find
there are so many things that it can do other than just play chosen
music off your HD.  I find myself, and would assume other new users
feel the same, confused about the functionality of many of the plugins.


My hope is that this thread will expose:

1.  most used plugins
2.  purpose expressed in layman terms
3.  basic setup of the plugin to give a good starting point for new
users.

My favorite so far is Musicip.  Had some problems in getting it set up
and am still experimenting with the settings.  

Purpose for me is to explore my music collection.  I found myself
listening to basically the same songs and cd's over and over.  Musicip
creates a mix based on its own analysis of your music.  This mix can be
customized in many different ways which will yield different mixes based
on user defined parameters set in the setting menu of squeezecenter. 
The result is often exposure to music that has been forgotten or
overlooked for far to long.  I'm still playing with the settings but
m'ip has already exposed me to long forgotten favorites.

A special thanks to the developers who spend their time not only
developing the Plugins but also support those of us who use them.
Steve


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Re: [slim] Can SB access NAS without the SqueezeCenter turned on?

2008-10-31 Thread New Daddy

Thanks everyone for chiming in.
The depth of this thread is going way over my head.
I have no idea what upnp is..
Well, then again, I had no idea what NAS was until a few days ago, when
I started searching the internet.

Basically, my wife and I would like to aggregate all our music files
into one drive. I can let her transfer her music files in her laptop to
my desktop or even my laptop, but I thought it would be more convenient
if she could access the centralized storage regardless of whether my
PC/laptop is turned on or off.  Similarly, I thought it would be better
if my SB Boom could access the network-attached central storage
directly without having to negotiate through my desktop where the
SqueezeCenter currently resides.

Thanks!


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Re: [slim] Can SB access NAS without the SqueezeCenter turned on?

2008-10-31 Thread MrSinatra

thats why my answer to you was the best answer, i actually listened to
what you wanted.

;)

in all seriousness, there are a 1000 ways to slaughter a pig.  so it
all depends on what your exact goals are, and how you want to do it.

keep in mind, they do not have a upnp solution yet.  while i think its
probably coming soon, its hard to say when.

therefore the best solution to meet your goals as i see it, is to get a
NAS, which is great for more than just storing music btw.

some infrant/netgear NAS devices come with SC built in.  but the
drawback is SC is slow on these devices, (via webUI anyway).  however,
some other NAS devices are a lot faster, but on those you need to hack
em to some degree to get SC installed on them.

u could also setup a small desktop that would wake on lan and run SC
from there, and store all your music there as well.  this is to a
degree overkill, so it has pros and cons too.

personally, i am going to get a NAS one day, b/c i do not want a
computer on just to listen to music.  i'll probably wait until
netgear/infrant make a NAS that has a real processor in it, assuming
that ever happens.  but regardless i'm gonna wait until i see how this
upnp solution works as well.

i actually think the upnp solution (that uses SN and your SB + your
local tunes) would be very elegant with a NAS as opposed to a computer
for the local tunes.  BUT we need to see how it'll work first.  (if the
NAS has a generic media server built in, i wouldn't think its a
problem).

if you need clarifications, just ask, BUT you should google upnp and so
on.  to do this properly, you will need to educate yourself.


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Re: [slim] Game On: Sonos has an iPhone app

2008-10-31 Thread egd

mherger;355276 Wrote: 
 Win!
 
 http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=355264#post355264

I like it, but for the 'c' word.  Also, i think there'd be merit in
having the information locally stored so that it's accessible without 
having to be online.


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Re: [slim] Can this still be done?

2008-10-31 Thread Club1820

Customer Browse v2.3 shows up under Extras on the SB3.  In the web
interface it shows up under Music Library.  Not sure why its different.
?

I am using the IR Remote.   And yes, the Override standard track
details
is enabled in the Plug-in Setting for Custom Browse.


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Re: [slim] Overheating SB3 CPU ?

2008-10-31 Thread MrSinatra

wow, scary.

have u tried contacting support?  i would think they may be interested
in getting the unit back to see what went wrong.


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Re: [slim] Favorite Pluggins?

2008-10-31 Thread ModelCitizen

I'd agree with MusicIP but RandomMix can also help you discover your
music collection and it's a lot less hassle to set up (an awful lot
less!).

AlienBBC for listening to the unique BBC Radio offerings (esp. Radio 4
and World Service) is my all time top plugin. It's become a bit
superseded by the simpler iPlayer plugin for me now though.

I'd also find it hard to live without Last.fm. Being in the UK I can't
get Pandora which I believe is sort of similar.

Michael Herger (now Logitec employee) has made some seriously good
plugins:

MusicInfo: Allows you to configure the info you see on your players
displays
Album Review  Biography: Enables you to see info about the music you
are currently listening to on players/controller/web ui. Does suffer a
bit from inconsistencies due to the AllMusicGuide interface but
generally works quite well.

I also really like the various InfoBrowser adds ons, mostly created by
bpa. For instance the UK TV guides, the BBC News browsers and the Slim
Devices forums reader (created by Triode I think).

I also like Radio Feeds plugin which logically organises Radio Feeds
for me.

And then of course there is ShoutCast Radio, but as with Last.fm (and
MusicIP I guess) I'm not too sure you can class it as a plugin anymore
as it's become part of the main SC distribution.

MC


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Re: [slim] Game On: Sonos has an iPhone app

2008-10-31 Thread Mark Lanctot

Threads merged.


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Re: [slim] SqueezeNMT GUI for the NMT(Popcorn hour) released

2008-10-31 Thread Paul Shields

As someone who's just this week picked up an NMT (the iStar HD) will
this work on that device? My understanding is the firmware is pretty
much the same across all NMT's so I'll certainly give it a go.


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Re: [slim] Game On: Sonos has an iPhone app

2008-10-31 Thread jaffacake

ajkidle;355371 Wrote: 
 Obviously selling more iPods is not in Logitech's interest, but when I
 use a Touch to control the SBR, it'll be that much easier to rope
 friends  family into the cool world of Squeezebox

Is that because an iPod remote would be better? Cheaper? Or just
cooler?


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Re: [slim] My Radio Stations Plugin

2008-10-31 Thread Nonreality

kdf;355385 Wrote: 
 
  softsantear;355374 Wrote:
  I'm wondering where this went, too!  Upgraded to the latest build
 and
  it's gone.
 
  For some reason they removed this in SC7.2.1
 
  No explanation why they did this, that I'm aware of.
 
 Andy gives the explanation quite succinctly is in this thread:
 http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=52599
 
 -k
Thanks for clearing this up.  I hope they bring it back.


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Re: [slim] Artwork from iTunes -- Why So Hard??

2008-10-31 Thread Huitogi94

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Re: [slim] Updating Squeezebox duet controller firmware

2008-10-31 Thread Howard Passman

dtslllw;355272 Wrote: 
 thank you for that.
 
 Despite using the sd card method, the firmware still will not update
 (for either SC7.2.1 or SC7.3). Any other ideas? I won't be able to ring
 tech support till Monday.
 
 This means I will be running SC 7.3 with the SBC firmware that was
 included with SC 7.1. Should the basic functions (playing music) work
 OK?
 
 Thanks again.

Make sure you are pointed at SC and not SN.  I don't think you can
update unless you are pointed at SC.  At least mine never will.

Howard


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Re: [slim] 7.2.1 - Controller won't upgrade

2008-10-31 Thread Howard Passman

Mike-NC;355179 Wrote: 
 Thanks! That seems to have worked (though the controller reports
 7.2r2873 as current, not 3191).
 
 I am puzzled why rebooting the server should affect downloading an
 upgrade on the controller.  Anyone care to venture an explanation? 
 Doesn't the controller download directly from the Internet, even with
 the server turned off?

I'm not sure, but I don't believe so.  For Windows the file lives at
C://Documents and settings/all users/application
data/squeezecenter/cache

Whenever I want to update of go back I out the firmware in that folder,
restart SC and reboot the SBC.

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Re: [slim] Game On: Sonos has an iPhone app

2008-10-31 Thread ds2021

In my experience, all of the above.

I think the conclusion that Sonos came to is that the app is unlikely
to sell more remotes, but it is likely to sell more systems. It may
also effectively drive down the cost of such systems, probably a sore
point since the dvant of the Duet. Also, the amount of internet press
(i.e., blogs) I saw after the release of this app was worth a
significant amount.


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Re: [slim] SqueezeCenter Music Scan Problems With iTunes (never ending scan)

2008-10-31 Thread Andy Cudlip

Full scans work fine. I have gotten around it for now by including m4b
files in Disabled Audio File Extensions. Not ideal, but at least my
scans are now working.


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[slim] Can I combine a Duet with SB3 ?

2008-10-31 Thread bluegroper

Hi forum
I have a Duet (SB Receiver and SB Controller).  Mostly works great.
SBR is connected using ethernet wire, so is bridged to SBC.
Can I add an SB3 to this add-hoc wireless setup ? 
(How does it find the bridge ?)
Or do I have to also connect the SB3 with ethernet wire ?
Single SBC must be able to control both SBR and SB3.
TIA's for any clues.
(The SB documentation is very vague about such configuration/s.)


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Re: [slim] Updating Squeezebox duet controller firmware

2008-10-31 Thread socistep

SC is upgraded to 7.2.1 however can't update controller to the latest
firmware.

Will try a few more times


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Re: [slim] My Radio Stations Plugin

2008-10-31 Thread toby10

kdf;355385 Wrote: 
 
  softsantear;355374 Wrote:
  I'm wondering where this went, too!  Upgraded to the latest build
 and
  it's gone.
 
  For some reason they removed this in SC7.2.1
 
  No explanation why they did this, that I'm aware of.
 
 Andy gives the explanation quite succinctly is in this thread:
 http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=52599
 
 -k

Thanks kdf.  Being in the Beta forum explains why I never saw an
explanation.  
I don't swim in the deep end, only the Beginners forum.   :)


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Re: [slim] Can I combine a Duet with SB3 ?

2008-10-31 Thread SuperQ

You may be able to detect the SBR's wifi bridge on the SB3.  I have
never tested this myself since I don't have the duet style receiver.  I
use a normal wifi AP.

You could always add a wifi AP to your network if it doesn't work.


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Re: [slim] Game On: Sonos has an iPhone app

2008-10-31 Thread HectorHughMunro

jaffacake;355412 Wrote: 
 Is that because an iPod remote would be better? Cheaper? Or just cooler?

It's faster and a whole lot more responsive.  Very stable too.  It
feels like there's a lot more processing power.  The touch sensitivity
is better done than anything I've ever used before.


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Re: [slim] Updating Squeezebox duet controller firmware

2008-10-31 Thread thomsens

This seems to be a common problem with the controller with just about
every release.  Every time I go to upgrade my controller sw, I cross my
fingers.  I think I have a 50% chance of success based on my history
with it.  Now with 7.2.1, I'm only having the failed message.  The
reliability of sw upgrades for the controller needs to be a quality
focus item for slim devices going forward.  The current implementation
is not acceptable.  Luckily it has always (mostly) worked regardless of
the rev it was on.  The chief complaint I'd have is that it takes too
long to wake-up after not being used for some time.


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Re: [slim] Updating Squeezebox duet controller firmware

2008-10-31 Thread thomsens

Ok - so I manually copied all the jive components from the web site
listed above to the firmware directory under SC.  Now it appears to be
letting me do the upgrade.  Why would I have to do that?


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Re: [slim] Switching left and right channel

2008-10-31 Thread SuperQ

BiT;351971 Wrote: 
 :\
 If you teach me how to do that on a Toslink cable I will gladly do
 so...
 
 SuperQ, can you give me any information on that?
 Where can I find out more about this? And where do I insert that?
 Thanks!

Sorry, I missed the question.  I haven't tried the configuration.  Let
me poke around a bit and see if I can test it on my linux box.


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[slim] Duet Controller Shuffle Behavior

2008-10-31 Thread thomsens

I wish the behavior of the Conroller was different when starting off an
adhoc playlist.  I think whenever you are on a highlighted song and hit
play, that song should immediately play.  In the shuffle mode now, I'll
go down to the song level within an album and hit play on a song only
to have a different song on that album play.  I think the behavior
should be to play that song first and shuffle the rest.  There's
already the ability to shuffle an album at the album level or if you
select play all so I don't understand why the same thing happens when
you scroll to a song.  Thoughts?


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Re: [slim] Favorite Pluggins?

2008-10-31 Thread wowo

I use the following plugins on my Squeezebox Classic 3 + Squeezecenter
webinterface (I really do not known if they all work with the duet):
- *Album review* (Michael Herger): An easy plugin. I check the album
reviews often when I listen to the music. Long reviews you can only
read further on the web interface. “You can have full album reviews to
your currently playing songs right on your web interface or on the
player's display. This includes links to separate track reviews (if
available)”.
- *Biography* (Michael Herger): The same comment as for Album review
“Ever wanted to have more information about the artist currently
playing on your Squeezebox? Get his biography, pictures, links to
related artists and more on the web interface and right on your
device's display” 
- *MusicInfoSCR* (Michael Herger ): It is “only” a settings plugin.
“This screensaver displays information about the music being played,
your player's state and is freely configurable.”
- *Custom browse* (Erland Isaksson ): A more “difficult” settings
plug-in to make it possible to customize the structure, contents and
sorting of the browse menus on the player and web interface. It is a
necessary for the multi library plug-in.
- *Multi Library* (Erland Isaksson ): Also a more “difficult” settings
plug-in. “This plug-in makes it possible to divide your squeezecenter
library into different sub libraries, requires Custom Browse plugin to
be able to browse the sub libraries.” I use this because I have divided
my music collection in 2 library’s: one “normal” and a separate
Blues-music library.
- *Trackstat *(Erland Isaksson ): “A plug-in to store statistics such
as rating, last played time and play counts in a separate table. You
can set the ratings via the Squeezebox interface or web interface” IMO
an must have plugin. I use this plug-in mostly on the webinterface. It
is on my Nas-server a little bit slow, but you can get almost every
statistic information you need.
- *Last.Fm* (James Craig) LastFm is difficult to explain what it does.
It is a different way to encounter music. I will refer you to the
website: www.last.fm 
- *Lyrics Display *(Les Smithson): An must have plugin. “Shows the
lyrics or karaoke of the currently playing song on the Squeezebox
display and webinterface”
- *Lazy Search* (Stuart Hickinbottom): Also a must have. You can search
must faster “Lazy Search Music is a plugin that lets you search for
music without having to multi-tap each letter in the search text you're
after, and displays search results as you type “


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Re: [slim] SqueezeCenter (Mac) and Perl

2008-10-31 Thread WizardFusion

What I am asking is... is the SC just a bunch of perl scripts, or is it
an actual application.?

Even Activity Monitor shows Perl as the number one process.


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Re: [slim] Updating Squeezebox duet controller firmware

2008-10-31 Thread Skunk

Skunk;355263 Wrote: 
 Forgot to mention, if you haven't rebooted the server since upgrading it
 won't allow the Controller to see that an upgrade is available.

Oops, I meant to say restarted SqueezeCenter, not rebooted.

dtslllw;355272 Wrote: 
 
 Despite using the sd card method, the firmware still will not update
 (for either SC7.2.1 or SC7.3). Any other ideas? I won't be able to ring
 tech support till Monday.
 
 This means I will be running SC 7.3 with the SBC firmware that was
 included with SC 7.1. Should the basic functions (playing music) work
 OK?
 

I've had trouble trying to SCP firmware on there if I didn't rename the
jive_7.3_rxxx to jive.bin. If you can't update it I'd go back to
whatever version SC that cooresponds with the firmware on the
Controller, and work from there.

thomsens;355466 Wrote: 
 Ok - so I manually copied all the jive components from the web site
 listed above to the firmware directory under SC.  Now it appears to be
 letting me do the upgrade.  Why would I have to do that?

Never tried that before. Do you have 'automatic updates' enabled in Web
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Re: [slim] Artist composer problem

2008-10-31 Thread markwm

anyone help me out?


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Re: [slim] Duet Controller Shuffle Behavior

2008-10-31 Thread dean

Agreed, that behavior is wrong (and different than the classic
Squeezebox player interface).

Bug http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=9864 filed.


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[slim] OSX - How to Install LAME

2008-10-31 Thread juggler23

I have OS X 10.5.5, SqueezeCenter 7.2.1 and I need to install LAME. I
have tried 4 different compiled installers. Including the one with the
2 lines of instruction at the WIKI link
http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/LAMEForTranscoding and nothing
works. I put the iTunes-Lame script file in both the all user
library, and my user library, and iTunes shows that the script is
there, but SqueezeCenter says no go.

I have now spent over 4 hours trying to find out how to install LAME on
os X, and I am generally not an idiot, and I have not found one set of
clear instructions anywhere. I am about to try FINK just to install
LAME, which seems like over kill.

Not to mention that 7.2.1 seems to be full of problems and now I have
to look for earlier versions of the squeezeCenter.

If anyone can help, I would immensely appreciate it.


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Re: [slim] Artwork from iTunes -- Why So Hard??

2008-10-31 Thread thesil

I tunes keeps artwork in a separate folder. download a free program
called coverscout to find the art work and it will then show up in
controller.


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[slim] Preview: iSqueeze iPhone Remote

2008-10-31 Thread Luke Redpath

Thanks to everyone who has helped out with beta testing so far. I'm just
about to release what is hopefully the final beta before the final
release is published to the app store.

I'm hoping the first release covers all of the basics and covers them
well. Here, as promised, are some screenshots of the app in it's (near)
final state.

http://tinyurl.com/69r577


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Re: [slim] Preview: iSqueeze iPhone Remote

2008-10-31 Thread pippin

Looks nice.
Looking forward to see it.
Feels like I have to do some screenshots, too :-)


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Re: [slim] Squeeze controller losing network connection

2008-10-31 Thread kingrys

Yup, icon turns blue.

Version 7.2 r2873 Aug 22, 2008.

I think I saw elsewhere tonight that there is a new version of
Squeezecenter (presumably maybe with controller firmware too).  I'll go
seek that out and read again the bug link you reference.  THanks.


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[slim] Simple question

2008-10-31 Thread dyohn

Can the SBIII connect to an iTunes Server without running Squeeze
Center?

I have two SBIII's and run Squeeze Center on my PC and have been happy
for several years.  But I just obtained a NAS device that comes
preloaded with iTunes Server.  (Iomega StarCenter ix2)  It does not
support Squeeze Center - or at least Iomega says it doesn't.

Thanks!


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Re: [slim] Can I combine a Duet with SB3 ?

2008-10-31 Thread bluegroper

SuperQ;355459 Wrote: 
 You may be able to detect the SBR's wifi bridge on the SB3.  I have
 never tested this myself since I don't have the duet style receiver.  I
 use a normal wifi AP.
I'm not sure how to instruct the SB3 to use the SBR wifi bridge.  No IP
address on bridge.  So how to find it ?

SuperQ Wrote: 
 You could always add a wifi AP to your network if it doesn't work.
For security reasons, we prefer to go without home wifi.


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Re: [slim] Can this still be done?

2008-10-31 Thread erland

Club1820;355395 Wrote: 
 Customer Browse v2.3 shows up under Extras on the SB3.  In the web
 interface it shows up under Music Library.  Not sure why its different.
 ?
 
 I am using the IR Remote.   And yes, the Override standard track
 details
 is enabled in the Plug-in Setting for Custom Browse.

Is there any errors in the SqueezeCenter log file found under
SqueezeCenter Settings/Logging in the web inteface ?

Which SqueezeCenter version are you using ?


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