RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Ideal memory Configuration for CF Production server?

2010-01-26 Thread Charlie Arehart
for CF Production server? Come on Charlie, don't be so humble. You're one of the community stars, and have been for years. Revel in some kudos for a moment... _ From: Charlie Arehart char...@carehart.org To: discussion@acfug.org Sent: Tue, January 26, 2010 11:22:46 AM Subject: RE

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Ideal memory Configuration for CF Production server?

2010-01-25 Thread Charlie Arehart
. You can't improve what you don't measure. Quality is never an accident; it is always the result of high intention, sincere effort, intelligent direction and skillful execution; it represents the wise choice of many alternatives. On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 7:31 PM, Charlie Arehart char...@carehart.org

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Ideal memory Configuration for CF Production server?

2010-01-25 Thread Charlie Arehart
what winners do. You can't improve what you don't measure. Quality is never an accident; it is always the result of high intention, sincere effort, intelligent direction and skillful execution; it represents the wise choice of many alternatives. On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 7:31 PM, Charlie Arehart

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Ideal memory Configuration for CF Production server?

2010-01-25 Thread Charlie Arehart
Ajas, while you await Derrick's reply, I'll point out that the details for how to purge database-driven CF client variable repositories is indeed documented, but only in a technote: http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/185/tn_18514.html As for FR helping you see the time being spent per request and that

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Error with Java Object

2010-01-21 Thread Charlie Arehart
Just a couple more thoughts: if you really are just interested in the time of execution for the *complete* request, then besides adding logging in your application.cfc (as Cam helpfully suggested), note as well that info maybe available in your web server logs. I know it's an option you can enable

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Ideal memory Configuration for CF Production server?

2010-01-15 Thread Charlie Arehart
Thanks, and to your next observation, I'll note that I do list resources listing sites using CF in my CF411: http://www.carehart.org/cf411/#cfpowered /charlie From: ad...@acfug.org [mailto:ad...@acfug.org] On Behalf Of Derrick Peavy Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 8:31 PM To:

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Ideal memory Configuration for CF Production server?

2010-01-14 Thread Charlie Arehart
Wow, guys, I would offer significant caution about a lot of the assertions here. It's NOT always true that increasing memory will improve performance. Not at all. Indeed, there are times when increasing the heap could cause MORE problems (and even just raising it from 512 to 768). It's too much

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Ideal memory Configuration for CF Production server?

2010-01-14 Thread Charlie Arehart
To be clear, I wasn't referring at all to anything about you or setup Derrick. :-) Still, as you're saying, yes there are also those kinds of issues that can cause problems as well. Good that you've isolated a lot of them. That said, as for your moving to BD, I will argue that when some have

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion debugging info

2009-12-09 Thread Charlie Arehart
[mailto:ad...@acfug.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Childress Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 1:52 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion debugging info On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Charlie Arehart char...@carehart.org wrote: You may prefer to do this from

[ACFUG Discuss] more on ACFUG Holiday Party Next Week

2009-12-09 Thread Charlie Arehart
Hey folks, some will have gotten an email on the announcements list about next week’s holiday part. I wanted to offer an update. While it mentioned Artuzzi’s for dinner and WhirlyBall after that, it didn’t mention the after party at ComputerArena, just around the corner. I’ve just updated the

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion debugging info

2009-12-09 Thread Charlie Arehart
] On Behalf Of Cameron Childress Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:18 AM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion debugging info On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Charlie Arehart char...@carehart.org wrote: I don't like that when the instance dies, all the info that went

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion debugging info

2009-12-08 Thread Charlie Arehart
Yep, if one runs the instances as services, that’s an easy way to start them, as Arun said. If you don’t want to run them as services there are of course still other ways to stop/start the instance. And either way, there are options to start them from the command line or a shortcut.

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Dean Saxe: congratulations on your move to Seattle!

2009-12-04 Thread Charlie Arehart
on security across the board (development, network, os, etc.). -dhs On Dec 4, 2009, at 11:32 AM, Charlie Arehart wrote: Wow, well with all that foundation money, they've found the right guy to guard it. :-) I know, I know, there'd be no connection between the site and the money. Just

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion debugging info

2009-12-04 Thread Charlie Arehart
Besides Cam's useful ideas, since you say you're running multiserver, I'll suggest one other possibility: are you sure you enabled the debugging in the right CF Admin? There's the cfusion one (on the main port, like 8300 if using the built-in web server), then there's the one for each instance you

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Fwd: [AFFUG Discuss] Looking for Flex positions

2009-11-27 Thread Charlie Arehart
Darren, if among those miscellaneous staff you may want to outsource some CF admin/install/config/tuning/troubleshooting help, I'm available for that kind of work on a contractual basis. Same offer goes to anyone needing that kind of help, really. /charlie From: ad...@acfug.org

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] browser based IDE?

2009-11-19 Thread Charlie Arehart
Wes, check out nocCode, http://noccode.riaforge.org/, a web-based editor with specific CFML support. Speaking of that, if anyone ever has a question like are there any tools or resources for xxx, please try to remember (and recommend to each other) my CF411.com site. There, I have a category

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Development vs Production Application.cfm and other things...

2009-11-04 Thread Charlie Arehart
Ajas, you mention some loving/some hating XML files. I didn't see any reply from you on my note offering yet another alternative (sent 10/24), where I said simply: Or one may find it a little easier to use ini files, and CF's functions to read them (added in CF 6), such as getprofilestring,

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Development vs Production Application.cfm and other things...

2009-11-04 Thread Charlie Arehart
Good point. I did say I realized that ini files weren’t as “robust or flexible”. :-) But WDDX files are definitely a step above that before making up one’s own XML. They all have their place, so good to be reminded every once in a while. And thanks for the concurrence on INI files, Wes.

[ACFUG Discuss] Live, free Adobe Flex Training for ColdFusion Developers, Nov 18 in Atlanta

2009-11-03 Thread Charlie Arehart
Hey folks, check this out, just for CFers, and happening in Atlanta on Wed Nov 18. It's great that Atlanta is one of the several cities chosen. It seems like just the ticket for those of us who have been on the fence about Flex as CF developers. :-) I've registered, but don't know anything more

[ACFUG Discuss] My CFBuilder Hidden Gems talk at ACFUG will offer more content than my CFMeetup version

2009-10-30 Thread Charlie Arehart
I just thought I should offer a heads up about why you’ll want to attend next week’s ACFUG. If you hadn’t seen the announcements list note Wednesday, I’ll be the speaker at next week’s ACFUG meeting and I’ll be presenting “Hidden Gems in CFBuilder”. Well, some of you may also have

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] My CFBuilder Hidden Gems talk at ACFUG will offer more content than my CFMeetup version

2009-10-30 Thread Charlie Arehart
Do you mean will I record the ACFUG meeting? No, we've just found that that rarely works well, when you record an in-room presentation. But given that your in Colorado, I certainly would then recommend that YOU go ahead and just attend the online CF meetup :-), which is at 6pm Eastern on

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Development vs Production Application.cfm and other things...

2009-10-24 Thread Charlie Arehart
Or on may find it a little easier to use ini files, and CF's functions to read them (added in CF 6), such as getprofilestring, getprofilesections, setprofilestring. /charlie From: ad...@acfug.org [mailto:ad...@acfug.org] On Behalf Of Wes Byrd Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 6:03 PM To:

[ACFUG Discuss] no acfug meeting tonight

2009-10-07 Thread Charlie Arehart
For those who may not have heard otherwise, nor saw the announcement posted on the web site, this month's meeting is not tonight (as usual) but instead next week, primarily because of conflicts with Max. /charlie - To unsubscribe

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Student discount for MAX

2009-09-07 Thread Charlie Arehart
Kristine, the blog entry pointed to clarifies that it DOES NOT apply to teachers. Teachers do get a discount, though (to $995, if they use the code EDU966). Of course, that's not nearly as deep as the student discount. /charlie -Original Message- From: ad...@acfug.org

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Mura Content Management System

2009-09-06 Thread Charlie Arehart
Yep, that talk, from 6/11/09 is available at recordings.coldfusionmeetup.com. Thanks for mentioning it, Tom. /charlie From: ad...@acfug.org [mailto:ad...@acfug.org] On Behalf Of Tom McNeer Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 10:47 AM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss]

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] SEO and domain fwd

2009-09-04 Thread Charlie Arehart
Just to forestall saying, that doesn't work for me, the nifty ability to do the statuscode in CFLOCATION is new in CF8. :-) /charlie From: ad...@acfug.org [mailto:ad...@acfug.org] On Behalf Of Cheyenne Throckmorton Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 1:52 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject:

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Tonight's meeting

2009-09-02 Thread Charlie Arehart
And third, if you get the announcements didn't notice, the topics and speaker lineup have changed as of yesterday. Briefly, it's John Mason leading a CFUnited Conference Review and then giving a talk on Some of the New ColdFusion 9 Features. Not sure the order they will be offered, but they're

RE: SPAM-MED: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] cfdiv not working on host but works locally

2009-08-27 Thread Charlie Arehart
Did identifying the server version solve your problem, Andrew? I'd think not, as I'd expect instead for you to get a CFML compilation error using a tag that's not supported by an older version. Instead, I would wonder if the problem is really with the underlying Javascript libraries that are used

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Charlies presentation - CFApplication tag without clientmanagment sessionmanagement means registry populated every time???

2009-08-18 Thread Charlie Arehart
My!, with Charlie Arehart at this link http://www.meetup.com/coldfusionmeetup/calendar/10155133/?from=list http://www.meetup.com/coldfusionmeetup/calendar/10155133/?from=listoffset= 0 offset=0 I had a question pop up today and I posted it at his discussion thread instead of emailing here since

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Charlies presentation - CFApplication tag without clientmanagment sessionmanagement means registry populated every time???

2009-08-18 Thread Charlie Arehart
No worries. Just clarifying. Will look forward to your reply there. Nothing to see here folks. Move along. :-) Or, Turn to the cfmeetup message board for continued coverage of this breaking story. :-) /charlie From: ad...@acfug.org [mailto:ad...@acfug.org] On Behalf Of Ajas

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Learning a ColdFusion Framework: Update

2009-08-17 Thread Charlie Arehart
Hey Clarke, I caught your comment here, that I was originally going to start with ColdBox to learn a ColdFusion framework. But, I quickly got lost in the complexity. To really use ColdBox, you end up needing to know Coldspring and Transfer. But, since each of those has a learning curve,

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Learning a ColdFusion Framework: Update

2009-08-17 Thread Charlie Arehart
Well, I don't use ColdBox myself, so I can't answer your question about whether CB expects one to use an ORM. Maybe someone else can chime here, or again the CB list/forum would be a great place to ask. I just wanted to clarify that one point about it not needing transfer or coldpsring to do

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] ADobe ColdFusion Builder

2009-08-10 Thread Charlie Arehart
Not a word has been spoken. :-) /charlie -Original Message- From: ad...@acfug.org [mailto:ad...@acfug.org] On Behalf Of Mike Staver Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 12:58 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] ADobe ColdFusion Builder Does anyone know an estimate

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] ADobe ColdFusion Builder

2009-08-06 Thread Charlie Arehart
Hey Sean, that wouldn't be a problem with the RDS implementation. That would be with the aspect of adding a server to be managed from within CFB. I do so lament that they have gone this way of kind of forcing people into thinking that they need to add their server to CFB, and that they need to

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] ADobe ColdFusion Builder

2009-08-06 Thread Charlie Arehart
a good topic for someone to step up and present on here. Douglas Knudsen http://www.cubicleman.com this is my signature, like it? On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Charlie Arehart char...@carehart.org wrote: Hey Sean, that wouldn't be a problem with the RDS implementation. That would

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] verity basics and troubleshooting

2009-07-30 Thread Charlie Arehart
Well, one thing to consider it to optimize the collection (can be done in the CF Admin or with CFCOLLECTION). /charlie From: ad...@acfug.org [mailto:ad...@acfug.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Howard Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 3:47 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] verity

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] dreamweaver cs4 component error

2009-07-21 Thread Charlie Arehart
Just to be clear, Robert, the listing of the components in the DW feature is driven from the server-side via RDS (just like the list of datasources, etc.), so if there's a problem with DW seeing it, it's not about the setup of your site (assuming your site points to the server with the CFCs) but

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Learning a ColdFusion Framework

2009-07-20 Thread Charlie Arehart
On top of what Teddy offered in reply to your question, Tim, I’d point out as well that despite CF9 having ORM built-in, the other ORM frameworks could continue to exist for years if only to serve those who don’t move to 9 (there’s traditionally a long slow march to any new release, taking

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CF 9 and CF Builder beta are now public

2009-07-13 Thread Charlie Arehart
Well, you can also do it with the Server mode. Have been able to since CF 6 (but I know many prefer multiserver mode for many reasons). The challenge is just the web server integration, which is why (since 6) there has been the built-in web server as an alternative, so that the new CF edition

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] cfexecute, shared hosting, and security

2009-07-10 Thread Charlie Arehart
Clarke, in addition to the good stuff Shawn shared [and btw, Shawn, I'd enjoy seeing that code :-)], I'll note that at least as far as the point he made: So the hoster is left with a hard choice: disable CFEXECUTE, CFOBJECT, CreateObject(.NET), CreateObject(COM) and CreateObject(JAVA) or accept

RE: broken urls in email RE: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion and MySQL

2009-07-09 Thread Charlie Arehart
Just to be clear, I didn’t take it as patronizing. “We cool.” :-) But I stand by my statement (and confused by Jasun’s laughter. I was being serious. But maybe that’s what he was laughing at.) /charlie From: ad...@acfug.org [mailto:ad...@acfug.org] On Behalf Of Teddy R. Payne Sent:

RE: broken urls in email RE: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion and MySQL

2009-07-09 Thread Charlie Arehart
Ah, ok. Thanks. :-) And to be clear, Teddy, I did in my reply say that you could have meant either form of bandwidth. Meant to clarify that in my note below. Juggling many things today, including a very cool announcement to come later today about a special CF Meetup event. Will share

RE: broken urls in email RE: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion and MySQL

2009-07-09 Thread Charlie Arehart
Just posted it (on the meetup site), and was about to send it to the group here. Coming right up. /charlie From: ad...@acfug.org [mailto:ad...@acfug.org] On Behalf Of Teddy R. Payne Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 3:13 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: Re: broken urls in email RE: [ACFUG

broken urls in email RE: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion and MySQL

2009-07-08 Thread Charlie Arehart
broke across two lines. http://www.carehart.org/blog/client/index.cfm/2006/8/8/checking_jdbc_driver_version The above link should work. Teddy R. Payne, ACCFD Google Talk - teddyrpa...@gmail.com On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Charlie Arehart char...@carehart.org wrote: And for those not on CF8

RE: broken urls in email RE: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion and MySQL

2009-07-08 Thread Charlie Arehart
Eh? I don’t understand, honestly. How does a broken URL affect bandwidth? I’ll assume you don’t mean bytes but time. You mean it’s regard as an offense if a URL breaks? But it’s not something people do intentionally. It’s done by their mail clients. The solution is just to hit reply, so

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CF Attacks in the wild

2009-07-06 Thread Charlie Arehart
Well, yeah, it could. But the thrust of the attack (and the focus of this one) has been on sites that DO have it pre-installed, which is as of CF8. No denying, of course, that sites that added FCKeditor themselves would be vulnerable as well, but then it wouldn't be anything CF-specific at that

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFu...I mean Homesite is dead!

2009-07-05 Thread Charlie Arehart
Sure, but let's not dismiss as hopelessly incapable of supporting source code control. It does. It has built-in support for the SCC API, which is supported by many source code control apps. I've hooked it up to SVN. Conversely, Eclipse can certainly be hooked directly to a remote server via FTP.

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFu...I mean Homesite is dead!

2009-07-05 Thread Charlie Arehart
Well, Steve, I don't know if you meant me in the you guys, but I had said in my note yesterday (to which Doug was replying) that, I really think it's just part of the economic times. I offered the rest because I do think a lot of people don't know about the fact that HS was written in Delphi, or

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFu...I mean Homesite is dead!

2009-07-04 Thread Charlie Arehart
Well, I don't know. I think it's just that it was written in Delphi, and perhaps Adobe doesn't have enough (or want to bother with) Delphi skills to keep it going. It was brought forward from Allaire, and when Macromedia already had DW it kind of spelled the beginning of the end. The first step

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CF Attacks in the wild

2009-07-02 Thread Charlie Arehart
I'm curious about their phrasing of older installations of Cold Fusion applications and FCKEditor. It was only included as of CF8 (codenamed scorpio, as mentioned in this news from the fckeditor folks: http://www.fckeditor.net/Adobe_to_embed_FCKeditor_in_ColdFusion). So it's too bad that the

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CF Attacks in the wild

2009-07-02 Thread Charlie Arehart
Yep, and it seems (as also discussed in John Mason's entry, at http://www.codfusion.com/blog/post.cfm/cf8-and-fckeditor-security-threat) that the problem goes beyond just what can be abused if one uses CFTEXTAREA richtext=yes, but in fact what the hackers can do leveraging the FCKeditor directly.

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] NEVERMIND RE: CF in the database?

2009-07-01 Thread Charlie Arehart
FWIW, I'll note that while I appreciate the cons of the idea, I also know that others have seen the pros of it, and the BlueDragon engineers did as well, and they added a Render function to let you execute CFML code as found in any variable, whether from a DB query, a shared scope variable, etc.

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] cfcookie with the domain attribute

2009-06-25 Thread Charlie Arehart
Yes, and Clarke, I would highly recommend you drop a feedback into the livedocs on that (the CF8 ones, not 7 or 6, as I don't know that they go back and review those for ideas, though they should, since some find them while doing searches.) /charlie From: ad...@acfug.org

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] cfcookie with the domain attribute

2009-06-24 Thread Charlie Arehart
Yeah, adding to what Howard noted, the DOMAIN attribute isn't there for the reason you're using it. It's instead for controlling use of cookies on that single domain that's setting the cookie, but controlling whether and how it works for any subdomains under it. You can't simply name another

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] single sign-on issue CF 8

2009-06-18 Thread Charlie Arehart
.because you would instead need to be sending the jsessionid cookie instead. I was about to write the same answer as Cameron, but adding that little detail. ;--} /charlie From: ad...@acfug.org [mailto:ad...@acfug.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Childress Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 2:22 PM

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] single sign-on issue CF 8

2009-06-17 Thread Charlie Arehart
Sravan, CF will only create a new cfid/cftoken if they are not passed into a request, whether via a cookie pair or on the URL (or in a form field, I suppose). Whatever that other server's technology is for sending a request, see if they're passing the data any of these ways. You can also check

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CF8 Rich Text Editor

2009-06-15 Thread Charlie Arehart
Following up on that, note that you can also control where the tag (CFTEXTAREA) expects to find the editor code. It only defaults to /CFIDE/scripts/ajax/FCKEditor. You can change it on the fly in the tag, using the basetag attribute. More at: http://www.cfquickdocs.com/cf8/#cftextarea Of course,

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Re: CF 7 tif images

2009-06-05 Thread Charlie Arehart
Yes, and for that, Mischa's idea was a clever solution to consider. /charlie From: ad...@acfug.org [mailto:ad...@acfug.org] On Behalf Of Ajas Mohammed Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 10:05 AM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Re: CF 7 tif images Thanks Mischa and

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Re: CF 7 tif images

2009-06-04 Thread Charlie Arehart
Ajas, I'll share my thoughts. I'm no expert in this subject, and things may have changed, so someone can counter my observations. First, the latter problem (of how files/pages opened via the browser open in an unexpected program) is normally a matter of configuring the browser to tell it how

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] antiquated question about upgrade from 6.1 to 7

2009-05-31 Thread Charlie Arehart
But to get back to your original question, if someone for some reason did NOT want to do an update, yes, you could call upon better encryption functions than those includes in CF 6, by calling on them in the underlying Java JVM (or whatever library the encryption functions live in). Someone may

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Sending large numbers of eMail via ColdFusion

2009-05-28 Thread Charlie Arehart
Clarke, I wouldn't rely on the server monitor as proof of whether the thread runs. For one thing, you have to have start monitoring enabled, which isn't on by default. Just thought I'd clarify that if it might be the only reason you don't see them. Even then, the threads could run very fast.

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Web Service Problem

2009-05-27 Thread Charlie Arehart
So are you saying that in fact things are ok, if you don't use that tool? And as far as tools to analyze web services, there are those built into Dreamweaver and Eclipse (with the Adobe CF Extensions). Have you tried either of those? Each of these can explore any web service URL you provide, and

[ACFUG Discuss] No CFUG meeting this month: so go see Dean Saxe at OWASP that night instead

2009-05-26 Thread charlie arehart
Hey folks, since we're not having a regular CFUG meeting in June (first Wednesday), due to the Ben meeting on the 8th (more at ACFUG.org), here's a great way to spend that night. Our own Dean Saxe is presenting to the OWASP Atlanta group that now-free Wednesday night, June 3. For more on his

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Web Service Problem

2009-05-26 Thread Charlie Arehart
Well, there's one other difference: both the CFARGUMENT's have required and default. If you think about it, these are mutually exclusive. If you must specify an arg, then there's no need for a default. Of course, it's CF that shouldn't allow them, and I don't know that they should result in the

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Global Knowledge Ten Dying IT Skills

2009-05-18 Thread Charlie Arehart
Oy, so much palaver. Their very numbers show CF as having 30% more jobs than their self-ascribed language of the moment Rails, and yet they still want to label CF as dying. Indeed, one could argue static numbers aren't a good measure. Trends are what matter, and if they showed that CF was

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Encrypting URL Parameters

2009-05-07 Thread Charlie Arehart
Clarke, besides considering the other useful suggestions about whether it’s appropriate to even try those, or if there may be alternatives, I’ll say that I’ve done it before for other reasons, with code like this (where string was what needed to be encrypted, and key was the key for

getting remote assistance (was RE: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion 7 + SQL Server 2000. 500 Operation failed on the data source named XYZ.)

2009-05-06 Thread Charlie Arehart
Ajas, this seems a good time to make a suggestion: sometimes, trying to solve a challenging problem on a mailing list just isn't productive. There can be too many variables, and many hours are spent as different people throw out different suggestions, and you and they work to get to the point

RE: getting remote assistance (was RE: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion 7 + SQL Server 2000. 500 Operation failed on the data source named XYZ.)

2009-05-06 Thread Charlie Arehart
Thanks, Ajas. I do realize it seemed a possibly simple problem at first, but as the many comments have shown, there are many possible explanations, but they do all center on the matter of client variables. Indeed, I was tempted to write more yesterday to give you some direction, and in

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion 7 + SQL Server 2000. 500 Operation failed on the data source named XYZ.

2009-05-06 Thread Charlie Arehart
I'll throw out that if you had FusionReactor or SeeFusion, you could enable their datasource monitoring feature to be able to see each SQL statement sent to the DBMS, which may also have helped you see when/where the problem was (and was not) occurring, since it may be that it happens sometimes

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] OpenCMS Installation

2009-05-05 Thread Charlie Arehart
Sure, happy to help. /charlie -Original Message- From: ad...@acfug.org [mailto:ad...@acfug.org] On Behalf Of Forrest C. Gilmore Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 1:19 AM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] OpenCMS Installation Charlie: I realized I was straying from CF

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] OpenCMS Installation

2009-05-04 Thread Charlie Arehart
You'd need to install in the Enterprise/Developer Multiserver mode of deployment, in order to deploy a WAR-based app (like OpenCMS) alongside CF. Even then, it wouldn't really be running in CF. It would be using JRun as the J2EE server on which it executes. (And no, as far as I know, one cannot

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] OpenCMS Installation

2009-05-04 Thread Charlie Arehart
Forest, it generally does not matter at all that you have many versions of the JRE or JDK. Most apps that need a particular one will include one within their own directory, as both CF and JRun (and I imagine Tomcat) do. And they also tend to set their own classpath within their startup scripts,

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Fwd: [Owasp-atlanta] OWASP Workshop - 04.25.09 - Filter Evasion

2009-04-23 Thread Charlie Arehart
Thanks for sharing this, Dean. And folks may want to note that he's scheduled to be their speaker in June (see the site). I hope you'll drop a note then, too. That said, do you know of a way one can be notified of upcoming meetings on their own? I see no RSS feed on that site, and the mailing

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Fwd: [Owasp-atlanta] OWASP Workshop - 04.25.09 - Filter Evasion

2009-04-23 Thread Charlie Arehart
not look at the archive to determine the nature of the messages). /charlie From: ad...@acfug.org [mailto:ad...@acfug.org] On Behalf Of Charlie Arehart Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 6:31 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Fwd: [Owasp-atlanta] OWASP Workshop - 04.25.09

[ACFUG Discuss] TOMORROW: CFUnited Express in Atlanta, all day. Great content, giveaways, and more, at discount price

2009-04-14 Thread Charlie Arehart
himself, Ray Camden. Beyond that, several past ACFUG speakers will be presenting on topics not presented at ACFUG before: Doug Knudsen, John Mason, Andy Powell, and myself (Charlie Arehart). You can see their topic titles and descriptions here: http://express.cfunited.com/go/atlanta/2009/schedule

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Update graph without refresh

2009-04-14 Thread Charlie Arehart
Just to be clear: Outlook can certainly be set so that outgoing messages are in plain text (versus HTML) format, either on a per message basis or globally. Anyway, I don't know that that's what was happening with Seth's message, at least as it appeared in Teddy's reply. That looked more like an

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Update graph without refresh

2009-04-14 Thread Charlie Arehart
Seth, I saw the other replies to your question. One thing that wasn’t asked: do you want the refreshes to be only when the data changes? Or are you ok with the suggestions to refresh the client at a regular interval instead? /charlie From: ad...@acfug.org [mailto:ad...@acfug.org] On

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CF 7 java Object Instantiation Exception. Perhaps init issue here?

2009-04-14 Thread Charlie Arehart
Ajas, it seems your use of the init is fine. It's just that if you want to call the constructor, you have to use init (and you can't have a real method of that name within the java class). You pass whatever arguments you want to call the appropriate constructor, and it should just work (whether

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Looking for a CF Host

2009-04-01 Thread Charlie Arehart
That seems odd. CFWindow isn’t a tag that can be restricted in CF (in Sandbox Security, or Resource Security, as it’s called in Standard). I suspect instead that it’s that the server you were on wasn’t CF 8, as that is a new cf8 tag. But yes, there are ways to get what CFWINDOW does (including

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Looking for a CF Host

2009-03-27 Thread Charlie Arehart
Wow, if by that they mean that you can drop in a WAR or EAR, then we'll be in business, whether with CF, BD, or Railo. Cool to hear. I did a little googling and found some resources pondering it (but no specifics of if it's just the language or war/ear deployment):

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Looking for a CF Host

2009-03-26 Thread Charlie Arehart
Interesting. Dusty's question got me curious. There's good news. On the surface, it looks like it's free for a club, family, sports team or group: http://www.google.com/apps/intl/en/group/index.html And one may wonder if that applies to businesses. Well, if you look at the comparison page:

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Looking for a CF Host

2009-03-26 Thread Charlie Arehart
Just to be clear (someone correct me if I’m wrong), now that I think of it, I don’t think you can install software on a google apps site, so if you were wanting to run CF (per the subject), I don’t know that GA would be a solution. Anyone know different? /charlie From: ad...@acfug.org

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] over-stating security concerns? (was RE: ValidateAt parameter is effectively only client side )

2009-03-23 Thread Charlie Arehart
Yes, it's not quite clear whether you're responding to things Shane or I said, Jeremy. Just to be clear, I too was never arguing that client-side validation provided any security. It was the outlash against it--because it didn't help with that--which I was arguing against. As you say, it's

RE: re[2]: [ACFUG Discuss] excel or csv to database table

2009-03-12 Thread Charlie Arehart
, datasource, dbtype, sql, username, password, maxrows, blockfactor, timeout, dbname, cachedafter, cachedwithin, result, debug. On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 6:54 PM, Charlie Arehart char...@carehart.org wrote: Dusty, I wonder if your problem isn't a CF one, but a web server one. I'd bet

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] over-stating security concerns? (was RE: ValidateAt parameter is effectively only client side )

2009-03-11 Thread Charlie Arehart
You make some good points, Shawn, but I'll say you also make a couple that seem to back up part of my point. First, you conclude, that some of live in environments where we can't afford to get embarrassed by an outside security group. Well, I certainly don't disagree with that at all. It was

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] over-stating security concerns? (was RE: ValidateAt parameter is effectively only client side )

2009-03-11 Thread Charlie Arehart
Well, you did specifically call it a completely useless waste of time: :-) You are correct Charlie, it only puts the hidden field there to tell the server how to validate it. A completely useless waste of time, since those hidden fields are removed by anyone who wants to bypass your

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] over-stating security concerns? (was RE: ValidateAt parameter is effectively only client side )

2009-03-11 Thread Charlie Arehart
Sure, I agree with that. And I'll say I did clarify that protecting against SQLI, XSS, XSF, and the like is a very different subject, and even if one has no valuable assets in their site, they're worth protecting against because that site could be defaced, used to launch attacks against others,

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] over-stating security concerns? (was RE: ValidateAt parameter is effectively only client side )

2009-03-11 Thread Charlie Arehart
From: ad...@acfug.org [mailto:ad...@acfug.org] On Behalf Of Charlie Arehart Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 10:49 AM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] over-stating security concerns? (was RE: ValidateAt parameter is effectively only client side ) You make some good points

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] over-stating security concerns? (was RE: ValidateAt parameter is effectively only client side )

2009-03-11 Thread Charlie Arehart
Sure, but I've got to ask: is that a concession to my point? :-) (that not every app that uses CFINPUT validation would be harmed if some bastard removed it?) This isn't about me winning an argument, by the way. It's just that I can't tell if you're letting it go because you think I can't be

RE: re[2]: [ACFUG Discuss] over-stating security concerns? (was RE: ValidateAt parameter is effectively only client side )

2009-03-11 Thread Charlie Arehart
Thanks, Teddy, Dean, and Mischa for tying a nice bow on things. :-) /charlie -Original Message- From: ad...@acfug.org [mailto:ad...@acfug.org] On Behalf Of Mischa Uppelschoten Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 12:10 PM To: Web Site Subject: re[2]: [ACFUG Discuss] over-stating security

RE: ValidateAt parameter is effectively only client side (was: re[2]: [ACFUG Discuss] Password CFinput regular expression - throws alert/error after correction also)

2009-03-10 Thread Charlie Arehart
Mischa, I'm curious what you're getting at here. Perhaps I missed part of what was being traded, but I was actually surprised by the assertion Dean made (that you repeated). CFInput does NOT *always* use a hidden field to force server-side validation. It only does that if you ask it to, using the

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Generate any websites full sitemap and get page statistics

2009-03-10 Thread Charlie Arehart
Lots of pretty cool stuff there, Dean (http://www.foundstone.com/us/resources-free-tools.asp). Thanks for sharing. /charlie -Original Message- From: ad...@acfug.org [mailto:ad...@acfug.org] On Behalf Of Dean H. Saxe Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 11:20 AM To: discussion@acfug.org

[ACFUG Discuss] over-stating security concerns? (was RE: ValidateAt parameter is effectively only client side )

2009-03-10 Thread Charlie Arehart
Ah, ok. Now I see where you were coming from. Still, I have to argue against the assertion that any sort of client-side validation is a completely useless waste of time. I mean, I get it. You make your living as a security consultant, and we're very lucky to have you here bringing such concerns

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Password CFinput regular expression - throws alert/error after correction also

2009-03-09 Thread Charlie Arehart
Ajas, I tried your code and things worked as expected on both FF and Chrome on CF 7 and 8, but on IE (7), the regex would not work even if a correct value was entered the first time, so this is not about that once the alert is displayed, even if the user corrects the error and enters a strong

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] excel or csv to database table

2009-03-09 Thread Charlie Arehart
the files might become a problem. Perhaps I could read them into a cached query to solve that problem? Does anyone see any reason why this approach would not work? Dusty On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Charlie Arehart char...@carehart.org wrote: No love from anyone for CF411. :-( How can I

RE: re[2]: [ACFUG Discuss] excel or csv to database table

2009-03-09 Thread Charlie Arehart
Dusty, I wonder if your problem isn't a CF one, but a web server one. I'd bet when you try to retrieve the file as a CSV, the web server steps in and changes the mime type to something other than plain text, and therefore CF (and the CFHTTP) gets something other than what they expected. (BTW,

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Looking for a CF Host

2009-03-09 Thread Charlie Arehart
Peyton, I have a generic answer and a specific recommendation. First, I’ll point out that you can find dozens of alternative CF hosts listed at: ColdFusion Hosting Alternatives http://www.cf411.com/#cfhost This is one of a hundred-plus categories of resources and tools of interest

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] excel or csv to database table

2009-03-06 Thread Charlie Arehart
No love from anyone for CF411. :-( How can I get people to say, whenever anyone asks what tools are there to do xyz, to tell them to check out cf411.com. I'm not selling anything there. :-) It exists precisely to help with these questions. Dusty, check out: Excel File Processing Tools

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] cfmail issue

2009-03-05 Thread Charlie Arehart
Thanks for sharing the conclusion. I'll note that when I help people solve problems (in the consulting I do to help people troubleshoot CF problems), we do often ultimately discern that the problem isn't something inherently wrong with CF after all, but often something outside of it, so this

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] RE: three of our own interviewed on CFConversations podcast: two in the past two weeks

2009-03-04 Thread Charlie Arehart
Thanks, Doug. Glad to hear that clarification--though it would have been helpful if he'd said, and I confirmed this is how he pronounces it. We now know, but listeners may still be wondering. :-) /charlie From: ad...@acfug.org [mailto:ad...@acfug.org] On Behalf Of Douglas Knudsen Sent:

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