Re: [Elecraft] K3 firmware preview: Much-improved receive AF bass response

2009-09-18 Thread Doug Turnbull

Another improvement to the K3 makes me a happy man.   The K3 is so good that
I am considering the sale of an Icom 746 PRO to purchase a second K3 for
hauling around.  This time perhaps I will install the two meter option.
Thank you Elecraft for encouraging the feedback and for being patient when
your users get impatient.  I am looking forward to the P3 panadaptor.
  73 Doug  


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 firmware 2 years on and still much to do

2009-09-19 Thread Doug Turnbull
Perhaps an external control pod might prove a help.   I hate having to hold
my hand across the keyboard and key to get to the memory push buttons.   Yes
I know one should use an external controller for the rig but this should not
be necessary.   Oh but I love the K3 but it needs a control pod.

  73 Doug EI2CN

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of juergen piezo
Sent: 19 September 2009 11:42
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 firmware 2 years on and still much to do

K3 firmware 2 years on and still much to do?

I  still dont own a K3. I just cant bring myself to  buy the K3 because 
of its front panel layout and its operation. Although I would very much
like its receiver performance. 

 I have used one at a contest station and all that I can
say is that I would not buy one until a new front panel layout is 
designed. 

The band switching, VFO management, mode switching and many
aspects of its front panel design needs a rework. Most of the contest
operators that I know seem to own a FT2000, they will all acknowledge that
its no  K3, however they all feel the same as I do about the K3 and its
ergonomics. Most of us are just not portable operators, so dont need
small size 12 volt radios.

There are many good radios that  would be a good front panel design model
for the K3a. The FT950, FT920, Icom 737series, TS850 etc all have a very
workable ergonomic front panel layouts that are easy to use. The FT950 is so
well layed out and very attractive and it would be  a good one to copy
for a new K3 front panel.

If the K3 is so modular, why would it be so hard not to  offer a bigger
box with a new front panel? There are many off the shelf 19 inch rack 
boxes that could be used with a new front panel styling. 

I would suggest that a new K3 panel  with built in P3, power supply and
200 watt PA stage would be a big hit.  Everyone seems to be so over the
moon with the K3's small size, I must be a freak with alien genes to not
like the radios front panel  layout and operational ergonomics.

The firmware feature list or lack of progress I can live with. However a
awkward  panel layout and poor ergomics thats carved in rock I cant really
live  with.  When I used the K3 all that I ever used was the band switch,
volume and RIT control thats all, just like a Mil-spec radio.  It was
very hard to do otherwise, so I probably missed a lot of the K3's potential.


I too live in hope that a new K4 is coming! I could even live with a K3
junior with one receiver and a new front panel design.

John

--- On Sat, 9/19/09, Dave G4AON elecr...@astromag.co.uk wrote:

 From: Dave G4AON elecr...@astromag.co.uk
 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 firmware 2 years on and still much to do
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Date: Saturday, September 19, 2009, 1:58 AM
 Unfortunately the K3 firmware seems
 to have wandered off track a bit,
 two years ago when the K3 started rolling out the following
 were on the
 to do list and formed part of the specification:
 
 0.5 ppm TCXO calibration
 Synchronous AM
 
 These might not be the most important issues in the world,
 but were
 included in the original specification and are in the Oct
 24th 2007 B1
 manual. Currently the K3 fails to meet specification!
 
 Can we have some indication of their position on the
 firmware roadmap?
 
 73 Dave, G4AON
 K3/100 #80
 
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Re: [Elecraft] This list.

2009-09-20 Thread Doug Turnbull
Hi Larry,
I am sorry that some of my e-mails may have added to your woe as it is
certainly not my intention to do so.   I enjoy the comments regarding the K3
and desired improvements but as for getting into arguments over the K3 well
it is not worth it.   My K3 has been in use now for about nine months and I
am continuing to learn from this list.   The K3 is a project in a constant
state of evolution and this just suits me fine- the engineer can return to
make improvements.   I hope you continue to enjoy yours and that my
mutterings do not upset you in future.   It is for me a great hobby, great
radio and great forum.   

 Hope to meet you on the air and best to you and yours.

73 Doug EI2CN

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Larry - K2GN
Sent: 20 September 2009 02:31
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] This list.

I recently purchased K3 Serial# 3278.
I've installed the last 2 Beta test releases.
I'm enjoying the radio very much.
My problem is this list.
Maybe it's usefulness to newer K3 owners is conversely proportional to
sunspots!
There's been too many messages through here in the week with people voicing
their pleasure and dis-pleasure with the K3, 
The size, the layout, etc. etc.. I'm tried of the pickering and comparing! 
Can't we just talk K3s, how we use this that or the other options so us
newbie's can learn.
It's obvious that there are some very astute gentlemen here, that have (or
have had) a lot of different radios to compare.
I brought a K3 to enhance my station, not to spend hours reading non
relevant opinions of others.

(This should cause another couple of hundred useless messages.)
Please feel free to flame me, my filter(delete key) is working.

To Elecraft, thanks for the great radio.
But there is a need to clear this reflector and get it back to Elecraft
related matters, not personal opinions!

de K2GN/Larry
K3 - S/N 3278

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Rx Antenne K9AY

2009-11-26 Thread Doug Turnbull
Frank,
I am unable to fully understand your e-mail.   I use a K9AY with my K3
for 160 Meters and also listen with it on 80M and 40m, which are bands I am
not active on but monitor from time to time.   I find the K9AY gives me an
average 15 dB front to back ratio on 160M.   I have not noticed too much of
an improvement in Signal to Noise Ratio but the antenna is a great help in
contests when working the western hemisphere as it attenuates our fellow EU
stations.   I also use it in listening to stations in other directions and
find the front to back a help.   As I live in a rural location it may be
that the improvement in SNR is not as great as it would be in a more built
up area.   

You need the converter board in your K3 to have a separate receiver
input.   I assume you have this.   You may need a good separation between TX
and RX antennas to use the K9AY for break in operation.   In my case the
separation is 60 M and I have no problems.   Hope you find the K9AY works
well for you.   If you have any further problems perhaps you might try to
better explain them.   All the best with luck I will work you in CQWW this
weekend.   That is if I can get my inverted L up and running.   Life is good
or should perhaps one say life is sweet to avoid the commercial boys with
their Tee Shirts.

73 Doug EI2CN

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From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Frank Fendahl
Sent: 26 November 2009 18:30
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] K3  Rx Antenne K9AY

Hello I have built an Rx antenna K9AY. It will, I like to have connect to my

k3.
Is there anyone who can help mig.Jeg have pressed the rx antenna on my k3
There is also a rx in my display, but when I dial my k3
stand it and click in relays

Frank OZ1GML


 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3: AGC Adjustment

2009-12-09 Thread Doug Turnbull
Gentlemen,
I truly love this reflector and my sincere thanks to Jack Smith of
Clifton Labs for this interesting piece.   The ultimate user manual for the
K3 might rival Webster's in its weight.

   73 Doug EI2CN

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of David Ferrington,
M0XDF
Sent: 09 December 2009 15:53
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: AGC Adjustment

That certainly helps me a lot, I have been struggling with K3 AGC  
settings and this helps a lot, I don't remember seeing this posted  
before.

So thanks to Don for posting the link and many, many thanks to Jack  
for making it clearer.
I just need to read that a few more times now.
73 de M0XDF, K3 #174
-- 
Everything secret degenerates, even the administration of justice;  
nothing
is safe that does not show how it can bear discussion and publicity.
-Lord Acton, historian (1834-1902)

On 9 Dec 2009, at 13:15, Don Wilhelm wrote:
 If charts are helpful to you, Jack
 Smith has measured and plotted the AGC response for the K3 - see

http://www.cliftonlaboratories.com/elecraft_k3_agc_and_s-meter.htm#AGC_SLP_a
nd_AGC_THR

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - 100 vs 200 watts

2009-12-15 Thread Doug Turnbull
Gentlemen,
 I am happy with the K3 in its present configuration that is either a
10W or 100W output transmitter.   I only run a fraction of the output when
using my Acom 1000 amplifier.   The radio is very lightly loaded.   A 200W
K3 would be bigger and require a larger power supply and would be of no
interest to me at all unless this was all that was on offer.   Keep the K3
price down and let people source their amplifiers separately.   I suspect
this is the better philosophy if one wants the export market.   The K3 has
the best RX, can drive any amplifier and it sells at a competitive price.

  Now if we are talking external amplifiers well that is different.
Boy is there a lot of competition out there.   With respect I doubt many
people will purchase 250 Watt amplifiers.   A good kit for 800 Watts and
another for 1600 Watts might be a seller.   No one does a kit amplifier
these days as far as I know.   Please ignore or forgive me if my thoughts
differ with yours.   I am only an old dinosaur.  One thing for sure I would
not want Elecrafter to hurt itself with a product which does not sell.   We
are a fortunate group with such a fine radio and company service.

  Happy Christmas and New Year.

73 Doug EI2CN  


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Re: [Elecraft] Noisy K3 receiver

2009-12-18 Thread Doug Turnbull
Guys,
   I am not complaining but learning and the vocal complainers are helping
in this process.   Let us not be too precious regarding critique as it has
already led to an improved K3!   I may yet better learn how to squeeze the
maximum out of my K3.   Perhaps an improved manual is needed?   More
guidelines could be provided but of course this will all change with the
next upgrade. Such is progress which most K3 owners are delighted with.   To
me this is an excellent thread and may clear up confusion.   My profession
is Electronics Engineering and I can indeed learn so also might a Medical
Doctor, Truck Driver or Old Age Pensioner.   So let us try to understand
what is being said here and see if help can be provided.   The K3 is being
asked to do an awful lot and is proving it self able to adapt to new
requirements boy are we fortunate.  

The 'complainers' are almost all saying they find their K3s to be an
excellent radio.   I have been involved in other radio forums and found that
some people are very sensitive to any criticism of their chosen radio.   The
Elecrafter Company takes a more open and it seems to me Scientific approach
for which this dinosaur is most grateful.   Peace to all, Happy Christmas
and Happy Holidays.
  73 Doug EI2CN

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From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bob Naumann
Sent: 18 December 2009 12:07
To: sr...@swbell.net; Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Noisy K3 receiver

Stan,

Those who are complaining are the exceptions to the rule.

There are thousands of K3 users that are not complaining. There are a few,
very vocal complainers here.

73,

Bob W5OV
(with no complaints)


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From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of sr...@swbell.net
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 1:41 AM
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Noisy K3 receiver

You guys may be exceptions to the rule. The # of complaints seem to
far outweigh what you two guys are saying. I'm not saying you are wrong,
just that it seems that a lot of people are hearing a problem. I have
SN/0690 and to my ears it has always been on the noisy side. Some of this
may be due to ignorance about how to set up the K3 properly. I am pretty
sure that is true on my end, in part. I have never tried to dig deep enough
in the manual or the menus to try and make the situation any better. It is a
little intimidating to me and that is why I have never dug too deep in to
the menus to try and make things better.

 I hope to change all this in the near future. I am catching up on
the mods and upgrades and with an updated manual I hope to have some success
in making my K3 sound better to MY ears. 

Ed, I most definitely have never felt like that my K3 was TOO quiet.
Lots of background static and hash that is fatiguing to listen to. I don't
know what else to say...I know I am not imagining it. I would much wrather
listen to my TS-830s, but I have hung in there with the K3 knowing that
there is light at the end of the tunnel. I just have to figure out what page
that is on in the manual.  hi hi 


Stan Rife 
W5EWA 



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From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Steve Ellington
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 1:10 AM
To: w...@msn.com; Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Noisy K3 receiver

Ed
I agree. I have no idea what these people are talking about.
I've had a lot of radios. My last was the IC-7800 which sat beside the K3 
for a month until I sold it. I can't imagine what this noise is that people 
think they hear. Perhaps a .wav file from someone would be helpful.

Steve
N4LQ
n...@carolina.rr.com
- Original Message - 
From: Ed Muns w...@msn.com
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 12:03 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Noisy K3 receiver


 I've had #1823 for just over a year, and I still don't like
 the sound of the receiver. That's the reason the K3 sat in a
 box for months while my trusty FT-1000mkV sat on the
 operating desk (until the MkV went on strike in the middle of
 the SS CW :-(

 I've read all the posts in this thread and have to say ... I just don't 
 get
 it.  What noise?!  If anything my two K3s are too quiet!  It has occurred
 to me more than once that I might have an antenna disconnected or perhaps
 blew out the front-end to the radio.  The most distinguishing 
 characteristic
 of the K3 (for me) is how quiet it is when you slip on the headphones. 
 The
 K3 is distinctively quiet compared all the Icom, Yaesu and Kenwood radios 
 I
 own or have operated.  I now realize that all the pre-K3 radios I've used
 were somehow amplifying or emphasizing the band noise, plus adding a bunch
 of digital artifacts, in the audio.  I am completely stunned by the posts
 here that report noisy K3 receiver 

Re: [Elecraft] Raised K3DSPUPGD price?

2009-12-24 Thread Doug Turnbull
Hi All,
I feel that Elecraft is allowing us to update to the latest version of
the radio and these suits me fine.   My costs will include VAT (sales tax)
at 21% plus shipping to EI land so it is not cheap but nor was the K3 until
you compare performance and price with other manufacturers.   This is an
option and not required.   The radio was not so much deficient but improved!


Perhaps the W9AC modifications are the way for most to go.   Maybe
Elecraft feels that selling the filter board on its own will cause too many
people problems with installation.   Surface mount is a different game and
with so many of us old goats not able to see and with wobbly hands might
Elecraft be protecting themselves from ourselves.   One may object to this
but it is a corporate decision which may save Elecraft much trouble - I do
not know.   I do know that there is no other radio company serving its user
base so well.   We are treated like family.

  Happy Christmas and Holidays
Doug EI2CN

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of David Lankshear
Sent: 23 December 2009 23:53
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Raised K3DSPUPGD price?

The K3DSPUPGD was expensive at the old price, bearing in mind the cost of
carriage and return.  Now the price is verging on the obscene.  For the
money you'll get a Rev B board with a few component changes and the added
LPF board.

For those who can use a soldering iron, the W9AC bass enhancement mods work
perfectly well, so keep fingers crossed that the LPF, when it appears, is
priced fairly.  

Is it right that we're being asked to pay through the nose for things that
are correcting shortfalls in the original design?

73  DaveL
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: LPF, bass audio, new DSP board: Stirring the pot?

2009-12-30 Thread Doug Turnbull
Geoff and group,
I also have one on order which has yet to arrive.   This time, I forgot
to ask the good people at Elecraft to ship in as small a box as possible.
Sometimes a small parcel coming by post is just passed through without being
charged VAT by our Post Service.   This never happens with any of the other
carriers.   I may call Elecraft later today to request that when they do
ship that they use a small box.   Good luck with the installation.

73 Doug EI2CN

-Original Message-

Hello David,

$69.95 for the board + $40.50 shipping by USPS International (it came in a 
surprisingly large box but very well packed) + VAT on entering UK + (the 
worst part) £13.50 Parcelforce handling charge. It all added up to £92.72. 
It took about 10 days door to door by USPS International. I could have 
chosen USPS Priority Int. for a saving of about $15 but that would have been

of very uncertain duration.

73 and Happy New Year

Geoff
G3UCK



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[Elecraft] Disgruntled Europeans

2010-01-04 Thread Doug Turnbull
I do not know about the problems the excellent JA operators may have in
importing equipment from Elecraft directly but I do find this information
interesting.   What I can tell you from personal experience is that many EU
hams look at prices in QST and CQ and just dream.   It seems that one can
purchase Japanese made radios in the States for the same price in dollars as
one pays in Euros or Sterling.   Okay we have VAT rates (Sales tax) that run
between 15% and 22% depending on one's country but this does not come close
to explaining the price differentials.   

I believe that being able to purchase the kit K3 directly is a great plus to
Elecrafter sales in the EU.   True one is a bit exposed as to service but if
one has built the kit then individual boards can be returned for service.
The K3 is small and not that heavy to ship back if needs be for that matter.
In EI if a piece of equipment breaks down it might need to be shipped off
for repair to another EU country and that might not be so inexpensive.   

I believe that Elecraft is going to see a steady increase in world wide
sales as more K3s are around for people to try.   Of course the weak dollar
is not hurting matters.   The US needs to increase exports and the
combination of performance and price competition is going to help K3 sales.
As all hams know we live in a small world.

  Happy New Year73 Doug EI2CN



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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 versus Yaesu FT-1000D

2010-01-10 Thread Doug Turnbull
Stan and Company,
   Your points are well made Stan.   I have inadvertently raised stink on
the TenTec site questioning whether the development of this fine radio was
now over.  There has not been an upgrade now for over a year.   I made the
mistake of comparing the performance of Elecraft and TenTec and some of my
fellow OII users took real exception that such a comparison should be
voiced.   Still this is one way progress is achieved.   See what the other
guy is doing and try to do better.   Neither the K3 nor OII are perfect but
they are both very good radios.   If you compare the input of the users,
designers and owners to the reflector then no one beats Elecraft.   

I would like a larger K3 but then again the small size and light weight
of the K3 makes it possible to ship with relative ease from factory to
overseas users.   The kit approach is great in that it familiarizes us with
the radio and allows one to more easily make hardware modifications.   It
also reduces import duty and cost.

 I have questioned before if a remote pad similar to the one sold by
TenTec would make the radio more user friendly for some.   If you are not
using a logging program tied into the radio then punching the memory buttons
is a pain for contest operation.   I am now finding that I like the remote
tuning knob on the OII pad in that one can set the radio back perhaps at an
elevated position and easily tune.   I believe there has even been some
mention from the mother ship that such a pod is being considered.   

 These days I am using the OII for a while waiting receipt of my DSP up
grade board.   This will not ship to me for another two weeks and it appears
the ship date will be five weeks post my order so be prepared for a wait if
you order this board.  My plan is to finish off all upgrades and then
install the second rx and antenna tuner purchased this past summer.   I must
learn to work faster.

   Guys lets not be too critical of those who criticize the K3 but be
gentle.   I hope Erich and Wayne are a long way from retirement as we will
be fortunate to see their like again.

   73 Doug EI2CN









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Re: [Elecraft] K3 how often do you use it?

2010-01-11 Thread Doug Turnbull
Thankfully Elecraft has a limited number of products which they continue to
support in a far more active way than any other manufacturer.   I too have
sometimes thought that a larger radio would be nice but then there are
advantages to the present size.  There is no harm in our passing on dreams
but lets be thankful that the K3 continues to develop.   It seems Paul that
you and the rest of us are largely in agreement on this point.   The K3 was
one of the best purchasing decisions this old goat has ever made.  Now I
await the P3 and then the radio will have grown in size - Hi Hi.

  73 Doug EI2CN

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Paul Christensen
Sent: 11 January 2010 20:09
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 how often do you use it?

 I find the K3 pretty much the ideal size for my
 purposes. The front panel is not cluttered but
 comprehensive enough that there is little need
 for daily changes to menu items.

In the future, hopefully we'll see detachable front panels where a small or
large stand-alone panel format cold be purchased as an option, depending on 
user operating conditions.  For
base use, a panel loaded with extra buttons could be used to bring secondary
functions onto their own button (e.g., A=B and SPLIT).  Then, when its
time to operate portable, detach the panel and take the base K3 unit into 
the field (or mobile) using a smaller panel.

In the case of the TS-480, Kenwood accomplishes functionality of all 
controls, menus and buttons on one 57 kbps serial buss.  This makes it easy 
for its owners to detach the control panel and plug it into a serial-to-USB 
port so that the TS-480 panel can be plugged right into a notebook PC.  It's

great having access to a real panel with VFO to spin while operating 
Internet remote.

In the case of the K3, I haven't looked much at the panel connectivity but 
it should be possible to simply detach the K3 front panel and insert a 
black-faced front onto it with say an RJ-45 for the convenience of Ethernet 
cabling.  The cable would then connect on the other end to the control panel

size of your choice or to a serial-to-USB converter (as in the TS-480 
example) to take a panel with you and run remote.

I have to believe that if demand were strong enough, Elecraft could quickly 
whip-up an optional black panel for the K3 as well as a choice of small and 
large stand-alone panels.  The small panel could leverage what's already 
available on the current panel.

I'll go on record for ordering the first complete set!

Paul, W9AC



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[Elecraft] RF gain, preamp and attenuator

2009-03-28 Thread Doug Turnbull
I am a new owner of a K3 and also run an Orion 2 which is IMHO a fine rig.
I like its larger size and remote pod for use in contests.   Put this aside
I need to know how to drive the K3 but am influenced by the O2.   For the O2
I keep attenuation off, preamp on and ride the rf gain and I do this for all
bands on CW including 160 M.   Sometimes for contest work I throw in some
attenuation though it does not seem to be required.   Is it the consensus
that for the K3 a similar approach is used or am I right in gathering that
many of you disable the preamp and introduce attenuation as well as
throttling rf gain? 

 

Both rigs allow many options and learning to configure them for ones style
of operation is critical.   I helped a friend with an O2 who was having a
horrible time until we went through the menus together and then he enjoyed
the sun.   I hope not to have too steep a learning curve and am grateful for
your guidance.   Thanks!

73 Doug EI2CN

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[Elecraft] K3 All Mode Squelch

2009-04-02 Thread Doug Turnbull
Hi All,
I thought this was an April fool's joke and deleted all references to
this topic.   Wow do I have respect for Elecrafter!   Thank you for such a
tremendous turnaround rate on improvements!   I look forward to your future
panadaptor which I hope is stand alone.   I remain a dinosaur who does not
wish to tie a PC into his rig but I like the idea of a panadaptor even one
such as on the Orion 2, which is still my main rig but then I am only
learning to use the K3.   I too for what it is worth would like to see an
external pod to trigger CW and voice memories and perhaps though less
importantly to tune the rig.   The K3 is a very small rig and one cans, no
doubt, during the heat of a contest hit the wrong button to great distress.
With the O2 this would be hitting USER 1 button beneath SEND 3.   The pod is
a very useful accessory.  Keyboard, pod and paddle are in line for contest
operation and except for search and pounce the rig itself is not touched.   

 I bet we like the taste of the new fish dishes served up by Elecrafter.
I use to be a cynic and protester; what is happening to me in old age?
Thank you to Elecrafter. 

 

   73 Doug EI2CN  

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[Elecraft] k3 external speaker mono v stereo plug

2009-04-04 Thread Doug Turnbull
Ken, 
 Thank you for your warning but I am now wondering if it applies to
later SN K3s.   Mine is number 2574 and sure enough I have been using a
mono-plug but in the Config Menu under SPKRS 1 has been selected.   The
manual indicates a preference for stereo plugs but clearly states, If you
only have a mono plug, set CONFIG:SPKRS to 1 to disable right-channel
audio.   A comment from Elecrafter might be in order to fully clear this
matter up.   In the meantime my external speaker is out until a stereo plug
is wired.   Thank you for the warning.

 73 Doug

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 band buttons

2009-04-05 Thread Doug Turnbull
Gary and all,
 I believe your idea has merit.   I am a K3 Novice predominantly using
an Orion 2.   The remote Pod of the O2 is a God Send for contesting.  What I
really like about it is being able to access the CW SSB memories without the
need for jabbing at small buttons on the rig during the heat of a contest.
I turn my pod sideways so as to keep the tuning knob out of the way.   For
my purposes a simple pod without many buttons or tuning encoder is more
useful.   I do not need the remote tune or band change buttons which are on
the TT remote pod they are confusion in a contest. 

 I once heard of an operator who used the pod to tune from an easy
chair.   This I can identify with though the urge has never struck.
Elecrafter would want to spend some time coming up with a pod which will
best suit their wide user base.   We are fortunate to have a manufacturer of
strictly amateur radio equipment owned and run by hams!   The service and
attention is just amazing.

   73 Doug EI2CN

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of rfenab...@gmail.com
Sent: 05 April 2009 08:04
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 band buttons

FWIW I think Elecraft would achieve a lot more if they made a Keypad
Interface with Programmable Keys to enable users to create their own
unique way of operating.

As I see it the radio simply does not have the number of available
keys/knobs to be able make a lot of features easy to use.

I just upgraded to the latest FW and lo and behold the Squelch operation
appears to be a long press of the Config button followed by a twiddle of the
VFO, if this is the way it works I am not impressed, the knob states SQL/RF
so I did not expect to have to use a button as well.

I find all these two button presses becoming tiresome and I worry that the
K3 will become to demanding to use and end up being relegated to second
place in the shack.

I don't want a PC running my radio and if I did I would have bought a Flex
for example.

I hope Elecraft are thinking about these issues as I believe that as time
goes by the K3 will become just another menu driven radio that is too
difficult to use daily.

Gary,
S/N 679
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[Elecraft] K3 RS-232 Cable use of TT O2 Cable

2009-04-16 Thread Doug Turnbull
I am the proud owner of a newly constructed K3 number 2574 as well as a TT
Orion 2.   The O2 came with a RS232 cable which I have used a number of
times for updates of the firmware.   Has anyone used the same TT O2 cable
when updating their K3?

 

I hope to install the 100 Watt amplifier this weekend and then plan to
update the firmware and also load my CW memories.   Thank you Elecrafter for
adding this CW memory loading feature.   Running a K3 is almost a hobby in
itself.

 

 73 Doug EI2CN

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[Elecraft] Such Service K3 RX audio on voice modes

2009-04-25 Thread Doug Turnbull
Where would anyone get such service and attention to detail?   The K3 is a
product whose design is ever being improved!   I truly hope the good people
at Elecrafter prosper for all their good works.   My fear is that as worthy
as government work is that if this gem of a company ever gets out of the
consumer sector then we will have lost one amazing experience.  Owning a K3
and following its development is an exciting trip.   We have serious
technical correspondence between great engineers and intelligent users. The
engineer is happy and able to make changes.  My K3, this forum and
Elecrafter bring additional happiness!
   Thank you Doug EI2CN


paul bijpost wrote:

 The white atmospheric band noise (we all love her) should somewhere 
 down the
 line be converted to (near) pink audio noise before it hits our ears.

Band noise is filtered three times before it gets to the AF amp: at the 
crystal filter, the DSP I.F. filter, and the DSP A.F. filter. It is 
most definitely pink by the time you hear it.

However, it seems that we have some customers with such good hearing 
that they could benefit from additional rolloff at the output of the 
DAC driving the AF amp. Lyle and I are exploring ways to do this. We've 
added you to the short list to test anything we might come up with.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Complexity

2009-05-07 Thread Doug Turnbull
Wayne and Company,
Thank you so much for listening and improving the AGC   Most K3
Contesters will thank their good fortune for their K3 and the amazing work
you good people put into tweaking the K3 into an even better radio! It is my
feeling that of late the radio of choice for use in contesting is the K3.
I do not wish to take anything from any other aspect of the hobby but if a
radio is going to go flat it will be happen in CQ WW.

 The new manual will be welcome and I admit to liking the idea of a
stand alone panadaptor - wow.   The keyboard would also be great.   We are
all peculiar but I do not want a PC permanently connected to the K3.   It is
my practice to disconnect the antenna and perhaps unplug the K3 supply when
not using the radio.  A PC connected to a hard wired LAN in our house leaves
me vulnerable to thunderstorms.   


I don't find the K3 complex.  As a matter of fact, I rather enjoy
playing with the new features.
One doesn't have to upgrade the firmware if he is happy with the radio as
is.   Well put!   We are blessed and I am still very much in a learning
mode.   There are a couple of questions to be aired at a later date but boy
the K3 works.

   73 Doug EI2CN



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[Elecraft] Attitude and assumptions...

2009-05-09 Thread Doug Turnbull



Dave, I was first licensed in 1960 when the General class license had full
privileges and the exam was not that difficult for a fifteen year old at the
time.   We old timers from the year of the blue snow and when buffalo roamed
should not be overly critical. Not that your were.   It is also a big
mistake for youngsters to think that we have not done our share of software
development.  However they should not forget that a good knowledge of basic
Electrical Circuit Fundamentals is required for DSP as is a good knowledge
of mathematics.   Brendan struck the right note and he is known for helping
others in EI land.   I should have skipped the last glass of wine with my
spaghetti.

73 Doug EI2CN




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[Elecraft] Scanning on 6M, when?

2009-05-19 Thread Doug Turnbull
I am operating in EI where the 6M band can be dead but then open for short
periods.   The ability to scan would be most welcome and I know of no
regulation disallowing it in EI land.   This would be a most welcome
addition to the radio.

   73 Doug EI2CN

-Original Message-
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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of SM5FQQ
Sent: 12 May 2009 17:24
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Scanning on 6M, when?


Really need scanning now when 6m is allowed in Sweden.
Anyone who knows when it will be possible?
In Sweden there is no problem with scanning above 30 MHz!

73 de Jan SM5FQQ
K3 #2054 
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[Elecraft] K3 Monitor

2009-06-03 Thread Doug Turnbull
I also find listening to myself on the monitor a bit awkward because I hear
my voice by paths other than that of the radio.   I think this can be
largely overcome if you use the Voice Recorder and take a listen afterwards.
The recorder is a very useful feature.   

I hope Elecrafter eventually provides a remote pod to activate the memories.

   73 Doug EI2CN

Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 RF speech processor  aliasing ?

I have always found it a bit difficult to judge my own speech quality when 
using the monitor function on any radio. Perhaps a substantial delay, 
several seconds, would be helpful in letting one listen to oneself after one

has finished speaking.

 I'll look into adding some filtering to reduce this effect and see if
 the resulting additional delay is acceptable.

 Meanwhile, your transmitted signal is clean!

 73,

 Lyle KK7P



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Re: [Elecraft] STATUS

2009-06-10 Thread Doug Turnbull
Oh boy, this is fun!
 Doug EI2CN

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of wayne burdick
Sent: 10 June 2009 17:40
To: K2ZLS
Cc: ELECRAFT@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] STATUS

Hi Tony,

3.14 will be going to production shortly, and there will also be a new 
beta firmware release in the next day or two.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

K2ZLS wrote:

 Well it's  been almost a month  now since  anything has happened.
 Does  Wayne have any goodies for us as we wind down to Field Day?  It
 seems like Summer vacation has already started.  No complaints.
 Everything is so quiet.  I guess its time to make 3.14 production.

 73's  enjoy  FD

 TonyK2ZLS

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] TX blocked

2009-06-15 Thread Doug Turnbull
We should remember that K3 sells globally and a transmitter which could work
outside the amateur bands might cause problems in some countries.   It is my
understanding that even as things stand Thailand will not allow the use of
the K3 by their amateurs.   Lets not forget that the FCC limits the receive
frequency range for some scanners and HTs so as to keep them off certain
critical frequencies including wireless phones.

Mean while the K3 is a wonderful radio.

 73 Doug EI2CN

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Sent: 15 June 2009 09:34
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] [K3] TX blocked

Hi Folks,
How to unblock the TX in K3 for transimiting out of HAM freq ???

Ahoj,

It's not possible to unblock TX outside the ham bands by h/w mod.
In my oppinion there is s/w lock in the standard firmware of the K3.
I can recommend to contact Elecraft support but I am not sure if the 
unblocking K3 is in harmony with Elecraft policy.

73 - Petr, OK1RP
K3 #778   
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 SSB Monitor Suggestion

2009-06-15 Thread Doug Turnbull
One of the complaints regarding the Orion 2 was that it took an engineer to
use it.  A good friend was advised by a top operator in ARRL that he might
better consider a PRO 3 than the Orion 2 which was too complex.   The idea
that the Orion 2 was to complicated is a falsehood but the rig took time to
learn.   This is also true for the K3 and maybe even more so.   I noted in
the past week a new K3 being sold because it was too complex for the owner.
I have at times wondered why my K3 was not transmitting only to find that
inadvertently some menu item had been changed.   We have all seen similar
problems on this reflector.   Elecraft has done a fine job but it is hard to
satisfy us all and I sympathize with the design dilemmas Elecrafter face.

Next week I may be looking for another feature so I hope you forget what
EI2CN has written by then.

  73 Doug EI2CN   

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Grant Youngman
Sent: 15 June 2009 18:51
To: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 SSB Monitor Suggestion

It seems to be the way of life that one person's requirement to add  
more salt  run's head long into another's view that it's quite salty  
enough.

With so many cooks suggesting new seasonings, it's a wonder the  
Elecraft team has kept the soup flavored so well :-)

Grant/NQ5T


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[Elecraft] K3 Rx EQ

2009-06-15 Thread Doug Turnbull

Wayne,
   Oh so quickly the forecast comes true may I eat humble pie regarding the
earlier comments about features.   A separate RX EQ for CW and SSB might be
really useful.   I listen to CW with a low pitch close to 310 Hz and being
able to further attenuate high frequencies above 800 Hz might be agreeable
to my ears but of course I would not want to be constantly adjusting this
setting when I switch to listening on SSB.   You guys are good.

 73 Doug EI2CN 


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[Elecraft] K3 use with MicroKeyer II

2009-06-18 Thread Doug Turnbull
Can anyone please direct me to material describing how to use a K3 and
microHam MicroKeyer II together.   The MK2 is ordered with cable for the K3
but not yet delivered.  I plan to purchase the second RX for the K3 this
summer but for the moment I am using a single RX.   The software for
contesting is going to be WIN-TEST or N3FJP depending on the contest and how
the packages work with the MK2.Many thanks for any direction you can
give me.   For the moment I am not using digital modes but this will come.

 

   73 Doug EI2CN

 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 use with MicroKeyer II

2009-06-19 Thread Doug Turnbull
Joe, 
 Thank you kindly.  I have downloaded the manual and find it a complex
procedure but perhaps all will fall into place.   The other sources of
information I was unaware of and I am very grateful for your referring me to
them.   You have done at least one good turn this day.   
 73 Doug EI2CN

-Original Message-
From: Joe Subich, W4TV [mailto:li...@subich.com] 
Sent: 19 June 2009 03:43
To: 'Doug Turnbull'; Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 use with MicroKeyer II



 Can anyone please direct me to material describing how to use a 
 K3 and microHam MicroKeyer II together.  

The microHAM microKEYER II manual gives information on setting up 
and configuring the hardware.  There are setup guides for Win-Test 
and the N3FJP software (AC Log) available from the files area of 
the microHAM group on Yahoo (http://grous.yahoo.com/group/microham) 
or located on the CD shipped with all microHAM interfaces. 

You can download the microHAM manual in advance of receiving your 
hardware from the web at: 
http://www.microham.com/Downloads/MK2_English_Manual.pdf

73, 

   ... Joe, W4TV 
 



 
 Can anyone please direct me to material describing how to use a K3 and
 microHam MicroKeyer II together.   The MK2 is ordered with 
 cable for the K3
 but not yet delivered.  I plan to purchase the second RX for 
 the K3 this
 summer but for the moment I am using a single RX.   The software for
 contesting is going to be WIN-TEST or N3FJP depending on the 
 contest and how
 the packages work with the MK2.Many thanks for any 
 direction you can
 give me.   For the moment I am not using digital modes but 
 this will come.
 
  
 
73 Doug EI2CN
 
  
 


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Re: [Elecraft] Uniquely terrific

2009-06-23 Thread Doug Turnbull
Dick,
You are so right!   Elecraft has a great and unique products backed by
service which is unbeatable.   It is fun to feel part of the design team!
These radios are selling world wide despite all sales being direct.   I
actually feel this latter policy is an advantage as Radios in the Ireland
and the UK sell for nearly 80% more than in the US.   One can pay shipping,
the required taxes and still come out ahead of the game.   The modular
approach to the design also helps as one can build their radio up gradually
to the level of machine desired with a more moderate cash flow.   I think
these guys have got it right.   It is amazing to see the number of K3s that
are being used around the world despite having to order from California. 

 Maybe the smaller lighter radio also has its advantages when it comes
to shipping.   I suspect the kit also helps - it did in my own case as the
reduction in price of the kit is magnified by a drop in taxes.

 Not since the days of my Drake 2B have I felt the same loyalty to a
manufacturer of ham radio equipment and the Elecraft Company could show
Drake, how to suck eggs.

 73 Doug EI2CN 

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dick Roth, KA1OZ
Sent: 23 June 2009 02:50
To: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: [Elecraft] Uniquely terrific

I'm afraid I cannot stop myself from making a comment.  It's a cheer. 
It's a remark for a remarkable situation.

Never before in my life within amateur radio or any other venture, have 
I seen such easy flow of information and feedback up and down (or is it 
in and out of) the interface between user and provider.

I've dealt with various tech support venues, some of which I rate quite 
highly, however the interplay between user/customer and provider is so 
natural as to be a true partnership.

I knew, when I re-awakened my interest in ham radio, that I wanted a 
radio I could grow with.  Fait acomplie.  What I didn't know was that 
I would witness the process of its growth.

Glad to be and Elecrafter!

-- 
73,
Dick ka1oz
Middleborough, MA

Radio:  Elecraft K3/100(Kit) SN 859
Antenna:  Titan-DX
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Diversity Rocks!

2009-07-13 Thread Doug Turnbull
Bill, 
What were you using for receive antennas?   I think a number of us would
be interested.   Just how much of an improvement do you find with diversity
reception?   Is it possible to quantize?   I have a second receiver on order
at this very moment and am looking forward to a new season on top band.
Sadly I was on twenty for the ARRL test this year.

 A good number of people in EI are purchasing K3s at this time.  It not
only has about the best performance but offers probably the best value with
the opportunity to build up the radio gradually.   Meanwhile they are
working on the Noise Reduction algorithm as a design engineer himself tells
us.  Elecraft is rocking.

  73 Doug EI2CN

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bill Tippett
Sent: 13 July 2009 20:10
To: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Diversity Rocks!

2009 ARRL DX CW results are just out and I set a new US record for
SOSB/160.  Final result was 428 Qs by 79 mults and the closest
multi-multi was K1XM with 430 by 76 (at W1FJ using a 4-square on salt
water).

Thank you Elecraft for diversity...I'll never use any rig without it!

73,  Bill  W4ZV
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[Elecraft] K3 NR

2009-08-28 Thread Doug Turnbull
 I agree with Gary, it would be helpful if the settings that are proving
useful for some could be shared with all of us.   Thanks, I am learning from
this thread prior to installing the software update and then installing the
sub rx.   This forum is most helpful and one of the many reasons my K3 is a
joy.

73 Doug EI2CN

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of rfenab...@gmail.com
Sent: 28 August 2009 09:38
To: Elecraft
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 NR

I too would like  to see what settings are being used for NR as I seem to
get a large decrease in Audio volume when NR is engaged.

I hope those having success with the new NR can enlighten the rest of
us...:-)

Gary
VK4WT/P
Sent via BlackBerryR from Telstra
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Re: [Elecraft] Re: [K3] K3 VS 7600 Sherwood Li st

2009-09-06 Thread Doug Turnbull
John,
Thank you for your informative e-mails.   A dose of reality is no harm.   I 
have K3 and Orion 2 radios and like them both though the K3 is winning my 
heart.   The ongoing development process is fun.   Keep enjoying your radios 
and hope to meet you on the bands.

73 Doug EI2CN

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Johnny Siu
Sent: 06 September 2009 01:36
To: Mike Harris; Don Rasmussen; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Re: [K3] K3 VS 7600 Sherwood List

Hello Gentleman,

I fully understand that Sherwood list is of high regard among many hams.

Regrettably, I really do not experience what should be expected after studying 
Sherwood list.  In particular, I am referring ic7800, ic7700, ic7600 Vs K3.  
All these 3 icom rigs are now in my stack and ready to do A/B comparison with 
K3 at any time.  I do not see any day and night difference among them even in 
the recent IARU contest.  Bearing in mind, Hong Kong is small and 1Kw big guns 
are everywhere (even within line of sight) under contest condition.

On the other hand, there are distinct characterists between K3 and Icom rigs.  
Personal preference and operation easiness would play in these areas.

I am pleased to see that Elecraft keeps on improving the firmware which should 
bring more operation easiness and smoother learning curve.  I would expect 
further improvement in the Noise Reduction function of K3.

If you feel this email offensive, please press your delete button.

73

Johnny VR2XMC

K3 + K2 s





寄件人﹕ Mike Harris mike.har...@cwimail..fk
收件人 Don Rasmussen wb8...@yahoo.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
傳送日期﹕ 2009 年 9月 6 日 星期日 上午 2:06:21
主題: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 VS 7600 Sherwood List

G'day Don,

 I tell anyone that will listen, the flexibility of a DSP radio 
 means little without the rich full natural sound of a good analog 
 radio. Elecraft has done this (IMO). They have made the hobby 
 technically better without the artifactual warts.


There are many who would disagree with this.  Whatever happened to 
the pink noise response experiment or the LPF that was being 
tested a few months ago.  I will agree that Elecraft have pushed the 
RF boundary but to date audio hasn't been their thing and here I'm 
not talking audiophile rubbish just good sound.  Unfortunately that 
is the interface with the human operator.

I find myself drawn more and more back to the K2 and if I was closer 
to the action I might even consider parting with the K3.  However, 
gear that comes to out of the way locations tends to die there and 
one can always live in hope.

Regards,

Mike VP8NO


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[Elecraft] KDVR3, wintest and Microkeyer II

2010-06-01 Thread Doug Turnbull
Has anyone married the three of these so that the KDVR3 is used for voice
memory rather than the MicroKeyer II.   I prefer the KDVR3 to the MK II.
It would be nice to be able to use the function keys to activate the KDVR3
while connected to MK II.   I do not want to be connecting and disconnecting
the MK II all the time I change from a CW to phone contest.   This is one of
those issues which microHAM does not address and I have yet to find the
answer from Win Test.   Too many different manufacturers are involved but
maybe one of the people on this group has already solved this problem.
Thanks to Tony for his e-mail regarding the N1MM.

73 Doug EI2CN

 

I use the KDVR3 with N1MM. This allows me to use N1MM F-keys to select the 4

KDVR3 memories.

 

 

 

I like this setup as I don't need to connect audio to the PC audio card.

This way no issues with hum pickup and adjusting audio levels. And the audio
coming from the K3 whether using the mike or KDVR3 sounds the same. 

 

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Re: [Elecraft] KDVR3, wintest and Microkeyer II

2010-06-01 Thread Doug Turnbull

Lu, 
   So far I have only used the MK II and K3 combination in CW contests.  In
the past I used the Orion II and its internal DVK rather than the DVK in the
MKII.   I find it easier to get my levels correct with the internal DVKs and
I like the sound from them.   I have now a second MK II on my K3 and had
hoped to use the internal DVK of the K3 with the keyboard function keys but
they are dedicated to the MK II in my present configuration of K3, MK II and
Wintest. 

 The internal DVK of the K3 is almost useless to me in a serious contest
as the buttons are just too small for a quick stab.   The Orion II has an
external pod which allowed me to access its voice memories.   I suppose that
I will just have to use the MK II DVK and forgo my preferred option of using
the K3's internal DVK.

 I did not express my problem very well the first time and hope a better
job has been done this time.   Of course I change from CW to phone contests
merely by specifying a CW or phone contest to MK II.

  I have had both K3 and Orion II now for nearly eighteen months.   I
prefer the K3 in most regards but the TenTec remote pod is a God send for me
in a contest.   In fact the OII is miserable to use in a phone contest
without the Pod as one can easily hit a user profile button and change the
entire radio configuration.   The K3 does not suffer this problem but the
OII and remote Pod is easier to use in a phone contest.   The K3 has a much
larger message capacity for DVK than the OII so this is another plus for
Elecraft.

   I am a convinced K3 fan and am just trying to find the best
configuration for using it in contests.   I suppose I will need to use the
MK II voice memory which is set up but which does not sound as agreeable to
me as the internal K3 DVK   Maybe more experimentation with MK II levels
will convince me otherwise.   Thank you for your telling me of your
experience.   I see the problem better now.

  73 Doug EI2CN


-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Lu Romero
Sent: 01 June 2010 19:09
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KDVR3, wintest and Microkeyer II

Doug:

Im curious... What are you connecting and disconnecting on
your microKEYER II to switch from a CW to a Phone contest
and why?  Is this because you are using the KDVR3 and not
the built in sound card to send the messages?

I switch from a CW to a Phone contest simply by typing CW or
USB (LSB) on the entry window of N1MMLogger.  There is no
plugging and unplugging needed of anything in the MKII.  Of
course, I use the MKII built in sound card to send and
record messages.

Ive used WinTest with my K3 at NQ4I in the last WPX SSB and
didnt have to unplug or plug anything to switch from Phone
to CW (I played with the rig on 160CW before the ssb
contest.  Nice antennas at NQ4I for 160 grin).  

I do not use the K3 DVK, however, I use the MKII to generate
DVK, and it works perfectly, no issues, no distortion, no
problems.  Just make sure that the levels on the hardware
pot are set correctly.  Once set, they never vary from place
to place and from N1MM at home vs. WinTest at NQ4I.

I can also pre-record messages and recall them by operator
on N1MMLogger, plus record on the fly with both N1MMLogger
and WinTest, but I have never tried to recall DVK's using
OPON on WinTest.  It works just fine using Control-O
(callsign) on N1MM.

-lu w4lt-
K3 # 3192






Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 12:35:37 +0100
From: Doug Turnbull turnb...@net1.ie
Subject: [Elecraft] KDVR3, wintest and Microkeyer II
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Message-ID: 764fe0684e0747acb3d2c3a73c58b...@doug1
Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii

Has anyone married the three of these so that the KDVR3 is
used for voice
memory rather than the MicroKeyer II.   I prefer the KDVR3
to the MK II.
It would be nice to be able to use the function keys to
activate the KDVR3
while connected to MK II.   I do not want to be connecting
and disconnecting
the MK II all the time I change from a CW to phone contest. 
 This is one of
those issues which microHAM does not address and I have yet
to find the
answer from Win Test.   Too many different manufacturers are
involved but
maybe one of the people on this group has already solved
this problem.
Thanks to Tony for his e-mail regarding the N1MM.

73 Doug EI2CN


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Re: [Elecraft] KDVR

2010-06-02 Thread Doug Turnbull
I like to have the monitor on very low during its use as at times I have
found that:
1) The wrong button was pressed
2) With the OII on rare occasion a poor quality transmission was in progress
which I could terminate and restart overcoming the problem.   Problems can
also occur with the K3.   

73 Doug EI2CN

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bob Naumann
Sent: 02 June 2010 11:41
To: 'Gary Gregory'; 'Geoffrey Downs'
Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KDVR

While I can understand why one might think that it would be a benefit to
turn off the monitor and just have silence in your ears briefly, I think
that once one spends too many weekends with headphones on for greater than
half of the 48 hours of a contest over decades, you will begin to understand
that having the SSB monitor on - all the time - is an important thing. If
your ears need a break, pull the headphones off during a DVR transmission
and really give your ears and head a break.

It is important because it allows you to hear what you are saying clearly to
maintain articulation and also enables you to maintain a level output of
your voice - mainly so you don't start yelling into the mic and then suffer
distortion and the resultant loss of your voice later on - yes, even when
using the DVR.

If you must, turn it down to a lower level, but don't turn it off - please!

73,

Bob W5OV

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From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Gary Gregory
Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 8:28 PM
To: Geoffrey Downs
Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KDVR

Geoff,

I didn't know this was on the list but I sure reckon you got a great
idea if it is not already on the list.

I use MON at level 6 when using the DVR and I have been trying to get
used to hearing my own voice in the headphones. I can do it this way
but it sure would be a lot better if it was muted during TX.

I will be watching closely for any response from Elecraft.

73's
Gary

On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 6:42 AM, Geoffrey Downs
geoff...@downs.globalnet.co.uk wrote:
 While on the subject of the KDVR3, I wonder if the next beta firmware
 release will include a feature that automatically turns MON on at a
 predetermined level when a recording is being transmitted, and off again
 when transmission is finished? It has reputedly been on the list for a
 year or so.

 73 to all

 Geoff
 G3UCK

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[Elecraft] K3 Display and Eye Glasses for OTs only

2010-06-04 Thread Doug Turnbull
Mike,
Another solution is to have a pair of glasses for radio use.   I have
set of bifocals which are used for computer and radio with roughly a thirty
inch focal length and reading at roughly fourteen inches.   I find them very
convenient in the radio shack.
 73 Doug EI2CN
PS What have we come to talking this way.

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From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Mike K2MK
Sent: 04 June 2010 19:50
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 filter display size


Hi Joe:

Here's a low tech solution: trifocals. I sit about 28 from my computer
screen and about the same from the K3. The middle range of my trifocals is
perfect. Same problem and solution for the speedometer on the car's
dashboard.

73,
Mike K2MK





Don,

  Yes, there is a lot of granularity to that display, but it still
  give a good idea of the filter placement within the audio spectrum

The problem is that there is no change between 500/400 Hz or between
250/200 Hz.  That means it is not possible to determine if a 400 Hz
or 200 Hz filter are selected only from the filter width display.
In the case where the FLn icons are too small to be read with one's
distance lenses and the radio is too far away for the reading lenses
the filter width display should be an important clue to the selected
filter.

73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 6/4/2010 10:00 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
 Mike,

 That truncated pyramid should change as you move the HI/LO CUT or
 SHIFT/WIDTH knobs.  In other words, it should respond to changes in the
 DSP filter controls.  Set the K3 to SSB and if the HI/LO indicators are
 not illuminated, push one of the two buttons in - then turn the HI CUT
 knob counterclockwise.  The segments to the right should drop off as you
 rotate the knob.

 Then switch to the SHIFT/WIDTH display - rotate the shift knob and the
 display should move left to right (no change in width), and rotate the
 WIDTH knob to change the width - when you go counterclockwise, it should
 go down to 50 Hz and the number of bars will be only two.

 Yes, there is a lot of granularity to that display, but it still give a
 good idea of the filter placement within the audio spectrum

 73,
 Don W3FPR

 Mike wrote:
 The truncated pyramid icon that displays a filter's width only has 2
 sizes, a wide one (11 'segments') for my 2.8 and a narrower (7
 'segments') for both the 400 and 250 filters. Is that the way it's
 supposed to be? The wording on the xfil display is getting too small for
 these eyes.

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Re: [Elecraft] Regarding the K3 and high QRN levels

2010-07-09 Thread Doug Turnbull
Dear OMs and YLs
Sometime this forum produces some fine insights and guidance.   This and the
recent answers to the use of selectivity and noise controls have been
helpful.   Perhaps once the K3 design stabilizes, the manual can be upgraded
to include more assistance but then I hope the K3 continues to progress and
maybe half of us never carefully read the manual.  It would also seem that
we all have our own approaches but this forum allows us to learn from each
other and perhaps prompts Elecraft to make adjustments - God bless them.

TenTec has similar problems with newbie users learning to operate the radio
and I believe the updated Omni was a partial answer for these users.   A
friend was even recommended the use of the Pro 3 over the Orion II as some
thought it too difficult to operate.   The K3 is a rig you grow into and
grow up with.  It can be used as an appliance at first and then one starts
learning.  A process which does not stop as the radio continues to be
improved.

Thanks to all of you for these questions, answers, insights and observations
in this web based classroom.

 73 Doug EI2CN



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Re: [Elecraft] 250 Hz and 400 Hz Filter Measurements

2010-07-17 Thread Doug Turnbull

I love this reflector and the discussion which takes place on it.   Thank
you all for this discourse.  Good radio, good users and good company and we
are all learning.   
  73 Doug EI2CN

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of John, KI6Wx
Sent: 17 July 2010 18:49
To: 'Elecraft List'
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 250 Hz and 400 Hz Filter Measurements

Beware of the conclusions of the so-called K3 Filter Study.  I don't know
who wrote it since there is no name on it, but the 250 Hz filter does not
fall apart at -25 dB.  The results shown are exactly what you would expect
for a well-designed receiver with no signal at the input.  The author of
this study doesn't state the conditions of the K3 such as band, preamp
status and antenna connection, but I will assume no antenna connected with
the preamp on.

If you look at the first plot on page 3 labeled Study of Inrad 400 and 250
Hz Filters, you will see a broad shoulder at about 30 dB down that the
author is concerned about.  This shoulder drops off at 100 Hz and 1100 Hz
due to the DSP filtering.  So let's look at what is causing this.

There is no signal into the K3, so all of the noise is internally generated.
At 600 Hz, the noise is coming from the preamp and is then filtered by the
250 Hz and 400 Hz roofing filters.  The shoulder is caused by the internally
generated noise after the roofing filter.  The noise from the preamp is
dominate, so that is sets the noise figure.  However, if we made it even
more dominate, so that the shoulder was lower, we would reduce the dynamic
range of the K3.  Receiver design is a tradeoff so that you create both
minimum noise and maximum dynamic range.

If the author had coupled a noise diode to the input of this K3, he would
have found that the shoulder would disappear because he now had a noise
signal into the K3 much stronger than the preamp.  My advice would be to
disregard this report because the measurements were not made in such a way
as to accurately determine the response of the K3 filters.

-John
 KI6WX

 
 Both you and Ed raise good points. No intent there -- I agree that
 the so-called 250 Hz filter is slightly more useful than the 400
 Hz. My real objective is to get Inrad to clean up their act!  BUT
 -- take a look at the data in this link. Lots of food for thought.
 There's something different about the K3 Sub-RX, and the Roofing
 filters seem to fall apart below about -25dB. Makes a guy wonder
 what's going on!
 
 http://audiosystemsgroup.com/K3FilterStudy-250HzRoof.pdf
 
 73, Jim K9YC
 
 
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[Elecraft] [k3] ERR BP2 Message

2010-07-21 Thread Doug Turnbull
Gentlemen,

I am getting an ERR BP2 message on my fully loaded K3 which includes a
sub receiver and one BFP3 general coverage module on the main RF board.
The firmware is the latest but this problem existed on the previous firmware
as well.
Present Firmware Loaded:

MCU 03.97
FDF  01.09

DSP102.58

DSP202.58

DVR 01.03

 

Tapping any switch removes ERR BP2 message and no other message appears.
If I turn the K3 off and then back on the error message reappears.   At the
same time the BPF3 seems to be working fine.   I can tune down onto the
Medium Wave or AM band and can tune onto the shortwave bands and the main
receiver seems to work just fine.

 

If I go to Config Menu and try to indicate that the BPF3 is not installed,
not inst the K3 continues to operate outside the amateur bands but I do
not get the ERR BP2 message.   Turning the radio off and back on makes no
difference as the ERR BP2 message is then removed and the radio continues to
work.I have the BPF3 set as not inst for the sub RX through out all of
this and the Sub RX is not being used during any of these exercises.   The
single BPF3 is mounted on the main RF board.

 

The K3 is kit built.I would rather not have to remove the BPF3 as memory
tells me it is beneath the sub receiver and removing the BPF3 would be a
pain; besides the BPF3 seems to be working just fine.

Otherwise the K3 is working fine on CW and SSB.

 

I can not remember when this error message first appeared and I am remiss in
being sloppy about this.

 

 Can any of you good people throw some light on my problem?   I most
appreciate your guidance.

73 Doug EI2CN

 

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Re: [Elecraft] air travel with SLA batteries (was Re: OT Carryingradios on commercial flight)

2010-07-23 Thread Doug Turnbull
John,
This is an interesting piece.   I note that at the start of the TSA
notice that it specifically mentions Lithium Ion batteries.   Does this mean
that a package of Alkaline batteries with which the battery terminals are
covered with plastic or pasteboard as originally purchased would be okay?
I use to like bringing back a brick/box of forty 1.5 V AA batteries from
CostCo.   These are Kirkland Alkaline batteries.   Battery prices are much
better in the USA than in EI land.

  Thank you for the information and any answer to my question would be
welcome.

  73 Doug EI2CN 

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of John Shadle
Sent: 23 July 2010 19:20
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] air travel with SLA batteries (was Re: OT Carryingradios
on commercial flight)

Here is a relevant post I recently submitted to the QRP-L lists which
may be of interest to folks here.

For the record, no one asked me to turn anything on.

-john W4PAH

Hi all,
I recently made a trip to Anchorage, AK for work and decided to carry
on two 17Ah SLA (sealed lead-acid) batteries to support my operations.
Some folks on the list said don't risk it and ship them ahead of
time. Others said, tape the terminals and pack them in your
carry-on.

Since I had done this in the past (with 7Ah batteries) I decided to
risk it again.

I found a web page on the TSA's site which was helpful and printed it
out to carry with me.

http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtravel/assistant/batteries.shtm

This ultimately proved helpful during my departure from RDU (Raleigh
Durham Airport) on Saturday morning. The TSA agent (who had 1 stripe
on his shoulder-boards) told me that unless I had an electric
wheelchair, I wasn't allowed to carry on these batteries. I explained
to him that I had taped the terminals and packed them in bubble-wrap
to protect them from damage. I showed him the web page which I had
printed out which stated that you must Place each battery in its own
protective case, plastic bag, or package, or place tape across the
battery's contacts to isolate terminals. Isolating terminals prevents
short-circuiting.

I had followed all of the rules. He brought over his supervisor who
had three stripes on her shoulder boards (I have no idea how many you
can have, but I saw folks with one, two, and three). She read my
printout and looked in a manual she had. After reading it a few
minutes she let me pass. I thanked the one-striper for his patience
(and tried not to do so in a sarcastic or snarky way), and re-packed
my bag. Success!

On the way back from my trip, I was again pulled aside and another
one-striper unpacked my carry-on and ran everything through again. He
said, Oh, you must be an amateur radio operator. We had a short
conversation. He was impressed with the radios and stuff I had. ;-) No
questions at all, he just wanted to make sure the SLA batteries
weren't concealing something in the x-ray image that could've been
below or above them in the bag.

So, I think in the future the lesson learned is to be prepared by
following the rules for protecting your batteries from the TSA's web
site (tape over terminals to prevent a short, pack the batteries in
bubble wrap or a bubble-wrap envelope), printing out the page from the
TSA's web site, and be patient as you go through all levels of TSA
employees until you reach someone who actually knows the rules.

73
-john W4PAH

P.S. I wasn't able to do much operating at all while in Alaska,
unfortunately. My free day ended up being very rainy and I wasn't able
to find a covered picnic table at the city park where I visited.
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[Elecraft] [K3] Always power cycle after Configuration Menu Change

2010-07-25 Thread Doug Turnbull
Gentlemen,
 I recently wrote if asking for help regarding an error message ERR
BP2 which indicates a KBF3, General Coverage Option problem.   There was
nothing wrong with the K3; it was my fault entirely.   Not having used the
KBF3 in two months I forgot that it was in my case located in the sub
receiver and had inadvertently reconfigured the K3 to indicate it was in the
main receiver.   I then corrected the Configuration Menu but found that the
general coverage feature still did not work.   I ran several tests to prove
there was a problem with the KBPF3 and for some of these tests switched the
KBF3 in and out for before and after results.  Well this does not work
because I was not giving a five second plus power off period after each
change.It appears that like many computers the K3 only recognizes
changes to its configuration at power on.

 

 This has been mentioned before on the reflector but my memory is
perhaps suffering from age - God I hope not the consequences are not nice.


  Maxima mea culpa Doug EI2CN  

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Re: [Elecraft] Quick P3 Report

2010-08-01 Thread Doug Turnbull
Oh to wake up on a Sunday morning and be so happy.   My P3 is on order and I
know that it was right to have ordered.   Users are finding the P3 does more
than originally expected and we now have another Elecraft Design Engineer,
N1AL communicating with us!   No wonder there is a growing Elecraft family
of users.

 73 Doug EI2CN


 



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[Elecraft] Special List

2010-10-29 Thread Doug Turnbull
Dear Friends,
Surely one can understand a small group of people being used as Alpha
not Beta testers.   The problems for Elecraft could become excessive if
every partially developed change was released onto the rest of us.   The
testers are not limited to W land, I know that Brendan Minish in EI land is
also a tester.   Let us live with this system which works well and be happy
that our radio is still improving!   I can hardly believe the service we
receive from Elecraft.   I second the Viva Elecraft comment!   Life is
indeed good.

   73 Doug EI2CN



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Re: [Elecraft] Firmware 4.18 APF adjustment using shift control

2010-11-06 Thread Doug Turnbull
Richard and fellows,
I too have not experienced the drop in SSB output.   I am still using
version 4.17.   There is probably more to this problem than is immediately
obvious and for that matter I wonder if the original Alpha testers ever
experience the difficulty in the original testing.

   73 Doug EI2CN

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Richard Squire -
HB9ANM
Sent: 06 November 2010 18:02
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Firmware 4.18 APF adjustment using shift control


A fellow Swiss ham and I apparently were among the lucky few not to
experience any SSB power issue with Release 4.17/2.65. I wonder whether this
has anything to do with some interaction with filters or other settings.

But now after installing 4.18/2.67, I noticed that turning the shift to
exactly 1 kHz will mute both receivers and only impulses from the encoder
are heard (fairly loud!) until shift is returned CCW to below 300 Hz.

Not a big issue since only slight moves around my 700 Hz sidetone are
normally required.
Just wanted to point out that the loss of SSB power does not seem to occur
on every K3.


-
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Re: [Elecraft] Firmware 4.18 APF adjustment using shift control

2010-11-06 Thread Doug Turnbull
Eric and Wayne,
   You are tops and I and many more expect problems with development
firmware.   Thank you for your Trojan efforts!
 73 Doug EI2CN

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Eric Swartz WA6HHQ -
Elecraft
Sent: 06 November 2010 23:40
To: d...@w3fpr.com
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Firmware 4.18 APF adjustment using shift control

Both beta 4.17 and 4.18 have now been removed from the web site. 4.14 is the
latest current release.

Ever try editing a web page while in motion from an iPad? Fortunately my
wife is driving, but road bumps make typing and screen editing interesting..


Eric
www.elecraft.com
_..._



On Nov 6, 2010, at 4:23 PM, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote:

  Guy,
 
 Firmware 4.18 is still available at the Elecraft website - it was 4.17 
 that has been pulled AFAIR.
 Yes, 4.18 has some problems that have been identified on this reflector, 
 but for those who are willing to work around those problems, I am 
 certain the firmware folks at Elecraft would like to have feedback of 
 any other problems discovered.
 
 Those who wish to play it safe should definitely retreat to 4.14 
 (install all the files), but for those who are a bit more adventuresome, 
 try out the APF and the improved noise gate, etc. as long as you are 
 willing to work around the limitations that have been identified so far.
 
 I often use beta releases of software, and I do expect a few glitches 
 when I do - I figure that is my cost for trying something new.  The 
 good thing about Elecraft is that they do respond to identified problems 
 in a timely manner (unlike some others).  Lyle will certainly be busy 
 when he gets finished with his weekend!  Let's provide him with 
 information on any other glitches that might show up.
 
 73,
 Don W3FPR
 
 On 11/6/2010 6:58 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:
 Wayne has officially yanked 4.18. If SSB problems with 4.17, reload
 4.14. Nothing until Lyle gets back.
 
 4.17 alpha testers were going nuts on the APF and likely did little
 checking of the TX function change, which apparently had the SSB bug
 found in 4.17.  Any problems, reload 4.14.
 
 73, Guy.
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Lock P3 frequency range independent of K3

2010-11-11 Thread Doug Turnbull
Hi All,
This is an aspect of the Orion II which beats the present K3.  When one
tunes the VFO the display remains steady for a period of time and the cursor
moves across a frozen display in sync with the VFO.   Once one stops tuning
the VFO the display is no longer frozen.   It does help in manually tuning
the VFO rather than using the cursor to move to a different point in the
displayed spectrum.   I would like to see this change introduced.  Boy oh
boy a company which improves previously sold product!

73 Doug EI2CN

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Amateur Radio
Operator N5GE
Sent: 11 November 2010 00:53
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Lock P3 frequency range independent of K3

My vote is NO...

Tom
Radio Amateur N5GE
QCWA Member 35102

On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 15:57:30 -0800, ga...@gary-gordon.com  wrote:

This is to support a previous suggestion on the reflector, to allow locking
the P3 frequency range displayed despite tuning the K3.  The defacto mode of
draging and skewing the waterfall makes it unrecognizable, losing track of
and tune to a new target QSO up the band.   It would seem much easier if
tuning the K3 just moved a marker across an unmoving P3 display.  My
thoughts are towards operating next Field Day, where I might set the P3 to
display, say, 7.025 through 7.075 KHz.   

Of course there would need to be a provision for re-centering the P3,
most likely to a round number, not the actual K3 frequency.  For example the
P3 could re-set its center to the nearest frequency marker at the top of the
the P3.  As an example, assume a P3 set to a span of 50 KHz, where its 10
markers at the top would then be spaced 5 KHz apart.  Assume a K3 is tuned
to 7.048 KHz, and the re-center button is pressed.  Consistent with the
suggestion, then, the center frequency of the P3 would snap to 7.050 KHz,
and display a span from 7.025 to 7.075 MHz.   

Besides the pile-up value another post suggests for this mode, I see it
equally valuable for contests and for looking for an ongoing QSO.   
73 
Gary K6kV  

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - KDVR bug?

2010-11-16 Thread Doug Turnbull
It is handy in the event that the wrong message is being sent to interrupt
and over ride using voice input just as it is useful to be able to interrupt
a CW message with a simple tap of the paddle.  I find this especially true
in contests.   However the point about taking a slurp of coffee is a good
one.  We need an intelligent VOX system.

73 Doug EI2CN  

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of N2TK, Tony
Sent: 16 November 2010 17:44
To: j...@audiosystemsgroup.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 - KDVR bug?

That is specifically why I would not want the VOX to interrupt the KDVR.
N2TK, Tony

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim Brown
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 12:28 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 - KDVR bug?

On 11/16/2010 4:40 AM, Lyle Johnson wrote:
 VOX over-ride of the DVR was a specific design goal.

Whoever set that goal made a BIG mistake. At the very least, there 
should be a software switch to disable it.

A MAJOR reason for using DVR is to allow you to slurp coffee or chew 
munchies while you're sending an exchange or calling CQ.  If the live 
mic stops DVR playback, it makes that virtually impossible.

73, Jim K9YC


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 ssb sound

2010-12-02 Thread Doug Turnbull
Mike,
What sounds good seems to be very personal.   When I use to monitor the
TT web site there were those who were critical of the OII sound.   We are
all different.   I go for a very low tone on CW of 320 Hz others prefer 500
to 600 Hz.   I would say that the K3 is an excellent value radio and maybe
overall the best radio on the market today.   This does not take away from
the competition, which also make good radios.   You are purchasing a radio
with backup and ongoing improvement from a most unusually good company run
by hams that only make amateur radio equipment.   They are not pulled off
amateur products because of a military or commercial product whose customer
has mucho clout.   You are purchasing a modular built radio which makes
service easier.   You are on to a winner.   Sleep well and be happy for you
surely will when the K3 arrives.

   73 Doug EI2CN

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Mike Rodgers
Sent: 02 December 2010 16:30
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 ssb sound

I'm still hearing rumblings about how the k3 sounds on ssb. This concerns
me. The k3 will be a huge investment for my income and I can't help but
wonder if it will be the right one. I'm really not seriously considering
anything else but I'm sure getting nervous about unloading the cash. I'm
just a rag chewer so there's more to it than just making the contact. I have
however listened to Hector's audio files and they all sound good. 

Happy QSO'ing.   Mike R


  
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Need for advice was; (More Thorough Documentation)

2010-12-08 Thread Doug Turnbull
These tutorial meetings could be organized locally by clubs or groups of
users on an ad hoc basis.   Good documentation is still needed though as
many live in distant parts and the class just held will do the fellow who
purchases two months later no good at all.   Documentation is always there
to reference.   The good people at Elecraft are then in a tough spot because
they improve the K3 and then need to look to documentation updating, which
is not a trivial task especially if properly indexed and cross referenced.
I find myself in sympathy both with Elecraft and those who would like
improved documentation.

I probably will purchase a new manual this summer for though I can print one
out with ease; a properly bound manual is a worthwhile convenience to me.
Though a fond user of Kindle, I am not enamored of reading material from a
computer screen and of course I can print it but that manual is a great help
for quickly finding information in.

I hope the people in Elecraft do not feel that they are being beaten on over
this issue.   I think it clear that they have a most loyal and very largely
satisfied customer base who are salesmen for their product.   This is not to
say that we are not all striving and seeking more for this approach brings
progress.   Thank you Elecraft!

   73 Doug EI2CN
   

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of eric manning
Sent: 08 December 2010 05:51
To: samuel ernst-fortin
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Need for advice was; (More Thorough
Documentation)

Samuel E-F said:

 Buy a radio, attend a quarterly held two or three day class presented 
by the designers on advanced topics?

OK, maybe it's a four-hour class. :) Crazy Huh? 

Not crazy at all! Could also be held at Pacificon etc as one part of a K3
operators get-together.
[Which I'd very much like to attend, BTW.]

Why is essential; what and how are not enough.

Eric
VA7DZ


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Re: [Elecraft] Digital voice recorderfor

2010-12-10 Thread Doug Turnbull
Would it be possible to allow an option where two of the memories might be 
combined to give a 20 second period with only one button being pressed to play 
back.   I am fortunate here to have 15 second memory and so it is not a problem 
for me.   The K3 is much better than my other rig with built in memory in which 
two of the memories are only 5 seconds long for phone recording.   Whatever the 
length we will always want more but fifteen seconds does seem to be very 
adequate while perhaps ten seconds is tight.

  73 Doug EI2CN

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Johnny Siu
Sent: 10 December 2010 02:36
To: Andrew Faber; k6...@foothill.net; Elecraft Reflector
Subject: [Elecraft] Digital voice recorderfor

Hello Gentleman,

If possible, it is always convenient to have the ability to record longer 
message say 20-30 secconds in one of the M1 - M4.  Perhaps, Elecraft may wish 
to search for newer components to upgrade the existing KDVR3.

Icom and Yaesu radio or even the MFJ Voice Keyer can record a much longer 
message in at least one of the memories.

Of course, I have no knowledge of the cost of production for a new KDVR3 
with the ability to record longer messages.  If the cost increase in only 
marginal, this feasibility in message length will be an operation convenience 
to 
operator and hence better marketability of KDVR3.

In the firmware level, I don't know whether it is possible for the operator to 
re-allocate the recording time among the M1-M4 and AF recording.  For example, 
M1-max 30 sec, M2-max 20 sec, M3 to M4 - max 10 sec.  The remaining recording 
time will be left for AF recording which will then be shorten to less than the 
current 90 seconds.

The latest version of KDVR3 only gives 10 sec per M1-M4 which is too short.  
It is not quite enough to record a proper standard CQ calling such as 'cq cq cq 
vr2xmc vr2xmc vr2xmc (phonetics) calling and standing by'


 cheers, 


Johnny VR2XMC 



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傳送日期﹕ 2010/12/10 (五) 9:23:28 AM
主題: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Re: Digital voice recorderfor

Fred,
  In CQPWIN, I did work out a way to measure the precise length of each 
message so you can have accurate repeat intervals for each message, even if 
they are of differing lengths.  If any logging software types are curious, 
I'll be happy to share the approach taken.
  73,andy, ae6y
- Original Message - 
From: Fred Jensen k6...@foothill.net
To: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 3:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Re: Digital voice recorderfor


 Yep.  I did it in ARRL SS Phone with N1MM.  You just have to set a
 repeat interval long enough for the CQ plus your desired listening time.
  N1MM doesn't know anything about the DVK, it just sends the Mx tap
 emulation command, so it has no idea when your CQ is finished.  I think
 this is true for most loggers.

 73,

 Fred K6DGW
 - Northern California Contest Club
 - CU in the 2011 Cal QSO Party 1-2 Oct 2011
 - www.cqp.org

 On 12/9/2010 9:33 AM, K5WA wrote:

 If this is in a contest, could you use the contesting software to trigger
 the repeated CQs?  From your comment, this would bypass the REPEAT DVR
 function and allow the VFO B display, right?  I have not tried it but 
 that
 is how I would attempt it if I was setting up for a contest.
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 ESD

2010-12-17 Thread Doug Turnbull
Kjeld,
I used a table away from electrical appliances and covered it with tin
or aluminum foil.   I had an antistatic wrist strap which I connected to
this large piece of foil and worked in this manner.   Ideally you would
connect the foil to a ground through a 1 MegOhm resistor.   Note I did not
power the K3 or any test equipment up while working atop this foil otherwise
one would possibly cause a short or worse electrocute oneself.   Generally
the larger the area of conductor the less the difficulty with ESD, at
component level the risk of ESD damage is greatest, at board level it is
considerably reduced and at assembly level it is further reduced.

You do the above at your own risk but it worked for me.   Wear cotton
avoid synthetic clothing and stay away from rugs or carpets.   Safety first
and I suppose this means we should both purchase an anti-static mat.

 Good luck and please thinks safety first.

73 Doug EI2CN

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Kjeld Holm
Sent: 17 December 2010 09:18
To: 'elecraft'
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 ESD

Dear all,

I am about to install my subreceiver  and would like to finish before the
weekend but I have no ESD work place. How can I best protect the parts? Or
do I have to wait until I can get the needed ESD equipment?

OZ1CCM, Kjeld

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Re: [Elecraft] ON4UN has a K3?

2011-01-04 Thread Doug Turnbull
Arie,
 You are right and you may be sure he will probably change his rig some
day and then some people will go into a funk.   Previously ON4UN used two
Orion II radios and there was much bragging on the TenTec site.   He
certainly changed to the K3 but what next.   Everyone makes their own
choices.  The K3 is a good radio and will be one whether Ham X uses one or
not.   What may be more significant is the number of K3s used for contest
work.   If you are a DX hound or digital man then the criteria changes.

  Happy New Year to all and especially to my fellow K3 users who have
even more reason to be happy.

73 Doug EI2CN 

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Arie Kleingeld PA3A
Sent: 04 January 2011 19:31
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] ON4UN has a K3?

So what if ON4UN has a K3?

So what if ON4UN has a FT5000DX?

:-)

73 and a happy new year all.

Arie PA3A
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Re: [Elecraft] Take the plung!

2011-01-31 Thread Doug Turnbull
Brendan,
I agree with you entirely regarding the appendage /QRP.   It is a pain
in the ass and I do not like needing to add it to my log.   If I go QRP and
I am thinking of it the difference is that I have good antennas.   Some less
fortunate hams are very limited in their antennas and operate higher power
levels to compensate.   Maybe there should be another class called QRP and
a hank of wire ten feet of the deck.

 QRP is good but signing /QRP is not.   QRP is a great area for Home
Brewing and wonderful for portable work.   I am not anti-QRP but hate the
appendage!   For that matter if I am going to be a real old man, I do not
care for special call signs that are artificially constructed. 

 73 Doug EI1MORSE / EI2CN 


-Original Message-
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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Brendan Minish
Sent: 31 January 2011 18:59
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Take the plung!

I worked 2 stations signing /QPR during the contest

In both cases it took multiple repeats to get the full call and the 
Contact would have been quicker for all concerned had they not sent /QRP 
each time and just sent their call a few more times

In both cases I was happy to work them, after the first thousand fresh 
QSO's are fairly slim pickings in the CQWW160m contest

Sometimes when I am feeling 'ratty' and someone insists of signing /QRP 
on each over I respond by signing ei6iz/QRO

Over the years I have had many enjoyable QSO's with QRP stations, I hear 
well here as I am in a rural location with fairly decent antennas and I 
enjoy working other stations regardless of power level

I am happy to work QRP stations but signing /QRP is pointless and will 
not make me more likely to expend effort digging you out of a pileup


On 31/01/2011 18:37, Nick-WA5BDU wrote:
 I made about 380 Qs in the 160 meter test and worked some at the
 superstition level, a couple I used the APF on, several who were no
 doubt QRPers.

 I never heard anyone sign /QRP.  So this may be one of those things to
 be indignant about that has little basis in reality.

 If someone had signed /QRP, I wouldn't have felt greatly harmed.  I
 worked other stations who took longer than typical to work due to being
 unfamiliar with contest procedures, etc.  I was still happy to get 'em
 into the log.

 73/72-

 Nick, WA5BDU
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Re: [Elecraft] Look familiar? Elecraft vs Ten Tec

2011-02-09 Thread Doug Turnbull
The MFJ 259B antenna analyzer is a pretty good piece of equipment and God
Bless them MFJ also sells some useful components.   I wonder if HyGain would
be around at all if not for them.   I am glad that MFJ is with us and feel
they would be sorely missed if they should ever disappear. 

 73 Doug EI2CN  



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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of David Gilbert
Sent: 09 February 2011 21:13
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Look familiar? Elecraft vs Ten Tec


Ahh ... you mean like your cellphone, DVD player, most of your 
television, much of your computer, and at least some of the components 
in your K3?

The country of origin of any product is not the issue ... the integrity 
and competency of the company that made it, the quality and reliability 
of the components they used, and the proximity and service policies of 
the company that sells it are.  As an example, I'd much more readily 
purchase an item manufactured in China and distributed by TenTec than I 
would any product made in the USA by MFJ.

Country bashing is myopic and mostly out of place in today's world.  If 
we're going to talk about product comparisons, let's at least try to 
keep the discussion relevant.

Dave   AB7E



On 2/9/2011 1:02 PM, Steve Ellington wrote:
 And of course you have all the advantages of a rig made in CHINA.

 Steve
 N4LQ

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 From: Chuck Mabbottcrmabb...@comcast.net
 To:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 1:52 PM
 Subject: [Elecraft] Look familiar? Elecraft vs Ten Tec


 Everyone saw this???


 Ten Tec [made in China]  pre-built
 Two Band CW QRP Transceiver - 40/20 Meters
 http://www.tentec.com/index.php?id=193
 Also has a 40/30 meter option..

 Original KX1 by Elecraft
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 wish list items

2011-02-12 Thread Doug Turnbull
I believe Stewart has two good suggestions.   Let me also say that I am very
pleased with the latest changes to the P3 firmware.  I often use my P3 on TB
to find a clear spot in the frequency range of those calling a DX station
during split operation.   Sometimes I place myself on the very edge and
sometimes there is a valley in the middle into which I slip.   The P3 also
proves useful in observing the commercial (?) signal sources on TB some of
which seem to be operating spread spectrum.   The P3 provides information at
a glance which allows me to better position myself on the band.   Thanks for
producing such a fine instrument and thanks very much for the updates which
have greatly enhanced the P3.   

For me the big advantage of Elecraft is that their products are near the top
end to start with but then they continue to improve in significant ways.
With the possible exception of Flex, I know of no other manufacturer so
attuned to their users needs and so interested in improvement of the
product.

Hats off to the good people in Elecraft, I wonder if a thesis could be
written on this company which might prove a guide to other manufacturers.
Elecraft is different in an exciting way - Forbes should do an article on
this innovative firm.

73 Doug EI2CN

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From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Stewart
Sent: 12 February 2011 12:09
To: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: [Elecraft] P3 wish list items

Over the last few weeks I have been enjoying my K3/P3 combination.

Overall it works very well and the P3 addition has been worth while.

Their are however a couple of things that I feel would improve it's use.

a) Being able to monitor your own signal on the P3 without needing to
disconnect the
 RS232 lead. With all the leads I have coming out from the K3/P3 I find that
inevitably
 one or more of them become disconnected in this operation.
Surely the K3 can halt the RS232 handshake.?

b) It would be nice to have a mode where MKR A and MKR B could be used to
calculate
 and display the delta frequency  between them. This would be useful for say
determining
 types of EMI i.e SMPSU, TV timebase or  PLT. Also it would be able to
measure signal
 bandwidths away from  the tuned frequency of the K3 .

73
Stewart G3RXQ


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Re: [Elecraft] Advantages of Factory Assembled Tested K-3 vs. aKit?

2010-01-15 Thread Doug Turnbull
James and other K3 users,
There is one other advantage of the kit.   Having assembled the radio
one has a better idea as to how to install future hardware modifications or
additions.   It may be a small advantage but I believe it is a real one.

 73 Doug EI2CN

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of James Sarte
Sent: 15 January 2010 22:23
To: r...@aol.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Advantages of Factory Assembed  Tested K-3 vs.
aKit?

Hi Dick,

Alignment of the K3 is performed either by using a computer utility or via
the front panel.  You don't have to adjust anything.  Also, assembly of
the K3 is like putting a PC together.  There is no soldering involved.  The
only difference between one option and the other is time and money.

73 de James K2QI

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of r...@aol.com
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 4:35 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Advantages of Factory Assembed  Tested K-3 vs. a Kit?

Please advise what advantages there are to purchasing a Factory  Assembled 
and Tested K-3 vs. a Kit?  Such as, what sections of the K-3  will be better

aligned by the factory?  Sorry if this is a repeat  question, I couldn't 
find related results searching the  archives.
 
73,
Dick- K9OM
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 parts delivery in UK

2010-01-19 Thread Doug Turnbull
Ken,
   I am in EI land and it has been my experience that Elecraft ships larger
more expensive items to EI by UPS but that if you ask, they may then send
smaller items by post and it then arrives by post.  

   I am not referring to Elecraft in this paragraph but it is not uncommon
for Nevada Radio in the UK to ship by a private carrier and then have it
delivered by the Irish postal service to my door.   I believe some transport
companies make use of local postal services to deliver the last couple of
miles.   In my case this is a pain in the butt as I generally have to pick
up the parcel at the local post office distribution center five miles
distant.   In the case of EI if one ships by post then it is delivered by
post but if shipped by a private firm it may still be delivered by post.

  73 Doug

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ken Chandler
Sent: 19 January 2010 09:16
To: AD6XY
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 parts delivery in UK

Ok thanks everyone for the comments.
I was afraid parcel force would raise it's ugly head!
I have had past experiences with this rip-off company, I really don't  
know how they can get away with it.
My k3 was delivered to the door by UPS who I guess had it released  
from customs.
I paid at the door the customs VAT charges etc.

QUESTION
Who decides on which company handles our parcels from Elecraft once it  
reaches the UK!!!
Is it the postal service used in the USA that determins who handles  
our goods, if it is, then can Elecraft use a company that goes to UPS  
when it hits the UK for delivery.


Ken..G0ORH

Sent from my iPhone




On 19 Jan 2010, at 08:53, AD6XY m.j.wil...@rl.ac.uk wrote:


 If it is going via parcel force, after customs it has to go to their
 warehouse. There it will sit for up to a week. Then they will send  
 you a
 letter with the charges due. Once you have paid these, including  
 another £8
 or £13 plus VAT they will send it on to you within a week or so. The 
  penalty
 of living in the 3rd world I am afraid.

 Mike
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Reflector Traffic

2010-01-24 Thread Doug Turnbull
Jim,
   I suppose we are all so use to the extraordinary service given by
Elecraft that sometimes we get greedy.   This company is not going to be
equaled and it seems the good Elecrafter people like the chatter from their
customers.   

   I am very much looking forward to the P3 but can well afford to wait
while they perfect the product.   

This week one of my neighbours ordered his K3 after selling two other
radios.   The export market is growing for Elecraft.   They are doing a fine
job and we are fortunate to be using their products.   Trouble is we have
come to expect perfection.

   73 Doug EI2CN

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim Brown
Sent: 24 January 2010 18:20
To: Elecraft
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Reflector Traffic

On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 10:01:05 +, rfenab...@gmail.com wrote:

Is the factory on holidays or is it my imagination that I am not 
seeing much in the way of comments and or responses to several 
requests for minor changes to the FW?

Have you searched the reflector or the website for past 
communications on the topics that interest you? There are 
engineering reasons why you can transmit through some filters and 
not others. These are not firmware issues, they are RF design 
issues. Elecraft has very good engineers, and they tend to make 
good decisions. Vacation?  Although I have no inside information, 
I'd  bet that they're working on design and manufacturing of the 
P3, and on the ongoing upgrades to firmware. 

In case you haven't noticed, we're in a worldwide recession, and 
even the largest of companies are paying careful attention to 
their costs. Some have laid off people, few are hiring. Elecraft 
has a small team of very good engineers -- they're neighbors, so I 
know some of them. They're peddling as fast as they can, while 
remaining fiscally responsible so that they can stay in biz to 
support us, their customers. 

As to responsiveness -- I'd be interested to hear your experience 
communicating with engineers or management at Yaesu, Kenwood, 
Icom, or Ten Tec IN ANY TIMEFRAME. In the past month, I've 
exchanged four emails with Wayne Burdick on technical issues that 
concern me and that I felt should concern him. Both Wayne and Eric 
monitor this reflector regularly, and comment when needed to 
support their customers. They are the OWNERS, and Wayne is the 
chief engineer. Lyle Johnson, who is responsible for firmware, 
also monitors the reflector and contributes. 

Support is the solving of problems, NOT responding to wish lists, 
or providing personal answers to questions about delivery times of 
future products. Go to the website for that info. Or call the 
office during business hours. Yes, I see that you're in VK. I have 
that same issue with Yaesu, Icom, and Kenwood. :) 

73,

Jim Brown K9YC


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Re: [Elecraft] OT: Radios and the TSA

2010-01-28 Thread Doug Turnbull
People,
Two years ago I flew from JFK to Dublin with an Icom 7400 in my checked
suitcase and there was absolutely no issue in either JFK or Dublin.   I have
even flown back to Ireland from JFK with a chainsaw in my luggage and there
was no problem.   In this latter case I told them at check in that there was
a chain saw which was completely dry in the suitcase. I know TSA inspected
the bag with the chainsaw as the ty-wraps I use to seal the bag were cut but
nothing was disturbed inside the bag or these people were very careful.
The bags with the undeclared (to TSA) radios were never opened.   Perhaps it
is a bit more problematic with carry on luggage which seems to be what Brett
is referring to.   

As to theft I have taken other radios, tools and goodies many many times on
this route and never had any difficulty; knock on wood.

73 Doug EI2CN

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From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Brett Howard
Sent: 28 January 2010 06:15
To: Ken Kopp
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: Radios and the TSA

I just got back from a send an engineer to appease a loud customer by
sending an engineer trip...  Now if you ever want a guy why looked like
he was doing something weird it was me!!!

I took two bags.  A barely qualifies for carry on sized suit case with a
single change of clothing and an Agilent MSO6104 oscilloscope in it.
Then a bag full of all my spare cables and random electronics parts and
a laptop.  

About the only thing that was going for me was that I had a round trip
ticket and I was only staying at my final destination for about 5
hours.  Ended up being a 2.5 day period with no sleep so I'm sure I
looked a bit haggard going through security too but I was given little
resistance.  The worst thing was that someone asked if I had a computer
in the suitcase.  I said no its an oscilloscope.  I could see them
say... (a what?).  They then said we're going to have to open it up and
take a look.  I said certainly let me help you with that.  They then
backed it up and looked at it in the X-Ray again and decided they didn't
really need to look inside and they let me go on my merry way.  

TSA is actually pretty darned reasonable from my experience.

~Brett (KC7OTG)

On Thu, 2010-01-28 at 04:55 +, Ken Kopp wrote:
 One of Rose's customers who's just returned from an overseas 
 trip commented that the TSA folks showed little interest in his 
 K3, and that this may have been due to it being hand-carried
 in an obviously made-for-the radio brand-labeled carry case. 
 
 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
   elecraftcov...@rfwave.net
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 in a cw pileup - needs work

2010-02-07 Thread Doug Turnbull
Barry, Sorry but what do you mean by 'high isolation headphones'.   Would
the Heil Pro-Set Plus do?
 73 Doug EI2CN

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Sent: 07 February 2010 01:01
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 in a cw pileup - needs work



Barry N1EU wrote:
 
 You need to maximize your rf/af dynamic range - that is what is going to
 turn that mush into a beautiful symphony of distinct signals of varying
 levels.  What has worked well for me is AGC off (although AGC on works
 fine as well), high isolation headphones, and the gain throttling
 techniques (most important) described by K3NA, W4ZV, myself, and others.
 
Just to continue from previous post - I experienced only mush in pileup
reception until fully adopting this technique.  High isolation headphones
are critical because you want to set gain such that weak signals are lightly
heard but clearly copiable.  You're maximizing the receive dynamic range
delivered to your ears and the high isolation means you can clearly hear
fainter signals without turning up the gain and squashing the dynamic range
(and too frequently engaging AF Limiter with AGC Off).  

73,
Barry N1EU

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[Elecraft] OT from KPA to CB and life blood for the hobby.

2010-02-08 Thread Doug Turnbull
Hi All,
First off I was never on CB but came into ham radio the Novice route in
1960   I am just as pleased that the FCC tries to some degree to police what
can be put on eleven meters.   Having said this, please let us remember that
many very good people have come into Ham Radio from the CB route and I do
mean good people.   Some of these guys and gals do become avid CW ops even
and then go on to run code classes for others.   It is not only true in the
USA but also in Ireland and other EU countries.   The skip is one of the
things which really opens their eyes and makes Ham Radio interesting.  I
hope that now with Sun Spots making some recovery that again we may have a
much needed infusion of new blood.   I lecture in electronics and a
colleague asked me today if ours was not a dying hobby.   Well, I was to
some extent dishonest and denied it but it is a worry.   For that matter I
understand there is a dearth of good radio designers in the west these days.
It seems one area of engineering where being in the seventies is not so much
a disadvantage.   We are most fortunate to have the good people in Elecraft.

73 Doug 

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Gary Smith
Sent: 08 February 2010 18:14
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] What became of the Elecraft's KPA1500 and KPA 800

I remember building my Heathkit 221.. the gem with the 10 meter trap 
in it. It was ludicrous the extent they went to make adding 10 meters 
difficult so you could have a 220 instead. 

I've always felt if they would have made CB on VHF instead of 
stealing 11 meters from USA hams, Skip wouldn't have happened on 
VHF and the CW McAll stimulus to pirate CB Good buddy never would 
have happened  we wouldn't have that silly FCC rule today.

It's so outdated, how many CB antennae on cars have you seen in the 
last 30 days? How many people today would drill a hole in their car 
to add a CB antenna... 

Another rule without a cause...

Love my K3

Gary
KA1J

 Didn't know about that rule change.
 
 This is way OT, but... How would you do this and make it not easily 
 defeated? A filter, a trap... Those can be easily bypassed or removed. A 
 microcontroller that calculates the input frequency and only produces an 
 enabling signal when the input frequency is NOT 26-28 MHz? Easy, just
supply 
 the enabling signal separately so it's always on. (And what manufacturer

 would ever go to that ridiculous extreme in design and cost anyway?)
 
 I guess it depends on how you define easily. LOL  Maybe it's not easily

 defeated if you have to open the cabinet and use a soldering iron...
 
 Bill W5WVO
 
 --
 From: Lyle Johnson k...@wavecable.com
 Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 9:20 AM
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] What became of the Elecraft's KPA1500 and KPA 800
 
 
  The only rule I know of is that the amp won't have ten meters, and you 
  will
  need to produce a ham license to get a ten meter kit.
 
  On October 4, 2006 the FCC issued a Report and Order that did away with
  that rule.
 
  Now, according to FCC Rules Section 97.317, external amplifiers must not
  operate between 26 and 28 MHz, and this restriction must not be easily
  defeated.
 
  73,
 
  Lyle KK7P
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Re: [Elecraft] What became of the Elecraft's KPA1500 and KPA 800

2010-02-08 Thread Doug Turnbull
Wayne and Eric,
You are both smart engineers and business men.   Survey your market
before you manufacture high power amplifiers with an associated high cost.
There are plenty of amplifiers on the market new and old which do exactly
what is needed and interfacing is not such a problem.   No one wants
Elecraft a small company to get into financial trouble.   Four thousand K3
owners are not looking for the LPA 800/1500.   

No matter what some say there are a number of us waiting for the P3!!!


It will be your call and we all hope for the best.

73 Doug EI2CN

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Lawrence Libsch
Sent: 08 February 2010 20:29
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] What became of the Elecraft's KPA1500 and KPA 800

Frankly, It seems to me that good QRO amps are a glut on the market. (see
THP, etc.) 

To be competitive in that market, any Elecraft offering would have to be
highly innovative and I just don't see much more that can be done. 

  Gotta disagree with this comment. There is no Elecraft-quality amp kit on
the market, indeed, maybe no 800, 1500 watt kits at all. But there are now
almost 4000 K3 owners, many looking for amps with straight forward K3
hookups and compatibility with the K3. If you don't think hookup and
compatibility of amps with the K3 are not an issue, you're not following the
reflector. Furthermore no one competes with Elecraft on customer service.
Again this reflector clearly demonstrates lots of interest in Elecraft amps.

IMO, QRO is much more important than all these trivial little toys
they are building now. I have a much more pressing need for a KPA- than

I do a panadapter (with limited features) and a wattmeter. I have a very
nice panadapter that has rig control from the computer, and it didn't cost 
700 bucks, and I can control it with the MOUSE

Gotta agree with this. Elecraft got left in the dust with their
panadapter. For $25, I built a Softrock for Elecraft K3
that runs Power SDR If you don't want to.build a Softrock, buy an LP Pan for
about $200. Again you can run Power SDR. Either way creates an inexpensive
panadapter that provides an amazing visual display significantly larger than
the P3 proposes. It provides 2 RX VFOs, even if your K3 has no subreceiver.
It provides point and click mouse tuning. And it provides entry to the world
of SDR. Elecraft's P3 apparently will not have I and Q jacks. This means no
adventures in SDR land for the folks who buy it. It's clear SDR will have a
significant role in the future of radio. 

Wayne, Eric, WE WANT THE AMPS.

K4KGG, Larry, K3 # 799


 
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Amps

2010-02-11 Thread Doug Turnbull
I wonder what true compatibility is.   An amplifier either works well with
the K3 or it does not.   I know that both Acom 1000 and Acom 2000A work
perfectly with the K3.   Interfacing an amplifier is not such a big deal
with the K3.   Of course some of our fellows have questions from time to
time but I believe that most people get their amplifier to work just fine
with the K3.   

I should love to see Elecraft with successful amplifiers which were making
good money for them.   I would be very sorry to see them bring out such a
major product which did not return its investment.

Maybe Elecraft will show us all again that they can beat all the competition
but amplifiers are a bit more basic.   An old Heathkit SB200/220 can still
do wonders to raise the output a few dB.

 73 Doug EI2CN   

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of lawrence libsch
Sent: 11 February 2010 15:49
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Amps

Group -

 For those who believe Elecraft can't compete in the amp market, I ask
you to consider the market into which Elecraft introduced the K3. Now almost
4000 of us have sold or retired other high quality transceivers for the K3.
    It's excellent that many K3 owners already have quality amps that
function well for them. Many of us, however would like to purchase an amp
from Elecraft with true K3 compatribility and the kind of quality and
service advantages that Elecraft has brought to the K3. 

   K4KGG,  
Larry
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Re: [Elecraft] Another webside where to see faster the P3 at Orlandohamfest

2010-02-16 Thread Doug Turnbull
Hector,
This is really useful and I hope Eric does put a link to your video on
the Elecraft web site.   Well done to both yourself and Eric.   The P3 looks
useful to me.

  73 Doug EI2CN

You can see easier and faster the P3 video at Orlando hamfest at this
italian DX website courtesy of Sylvano I2YSB,you won't be able to download
it to your PC but the speed to see it is higher.
 
http://www.i2ysb.com/joomla5/index.php?option=com_contentview=frontpageIte
mid=72
 
AD4C





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Re: [Elecraft] K3 DSP board upgrades delayed

2010-02-16 Thread Doug Turnbull
Bob and co,
I ordered my DSP Upgrade board sometime before Christmas and expected it
within three weeks but it took more like seven weeks.   I have since
received the DSP Upgrade board installed it and returned mine within a week
but of course it will take another week to reach Aptos.   The original board
has an invoice value of around $380 so very few of us could afford to just
replace the board.   I believe Elecraft is offering a very good service in
this exchange and they of course rely on the return of the old boards to get
out the upgrades to others.  Of course my bit was well chomped on by the
time the board arrived and I suppose this is the way the P3 now appears to
me.   Good luck and patience.

 73 Doug EI2CN


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[Elecraft] Short Wave Receiver

2010-02-17 Thread Doug Turnbull
Hi Eric and Elecrafters,
 I have just installed my second RX with the KBPF3.   I am just now
listening to the shortwave broadcast bands and using the 13 KHz NBFM filter
and 6 kHz AM filter am surprised at how good the radio does with a pair of
micro KLH HiFi Speakers for SWLing.   This is not my normal hobby but I
wonder if as others have suggested if Elecrafter may have a ready made
product for a market which may be larger than the ham market.   A top end
SWL receiver might not be too difficult for Elecraft to eventually add to
their product line.

  The K3 is certainly providing me with entertainment.   My normally
feeling is that all bands must take second place to HF amateur bands.   Six
and two meters are for me very much secondary to the best performance on the
HF bands for which no compromise should be made.   The K3 however seems to
do it all.   Wayne and Eric at Elecraft are truly fine engineers.

   73 Doug EI2CN


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Re: [Elecraft] Super K3

2010-02-23 Thread Doug Turnbull

Dunc,
Everything is relative and boy can I appreciate your joy with the old
HRO.   There was a good bit to be said for the Novice Class license.   I
remember in 1960 operating with a military surplus RBG2 (Super Pro) and TCS
crystal controlled in my case tank transmitter.   My father(later WA4GHS),
when I was age 13 and just back from Boy Scouts Camp  gave me his old
Hallicrafters S38 originally purchased to listen to the Irish Short Wave
Station which never came to be.   I used the S38 till age 15 and sold it and
along with money from selling doughnuts door to door and some baby sitting
money purchased the RGB 2 with the help of K4GHS who also lent me the TCS.
Later there were a few home brew rigs and NBFM to get on phone.   Those were
good days.   By age seventeen I had a Drake 2B which took all of a summers
work to purchase.   Now it is a K3!   Life is still good even if the joints
are stiff.
   73 Doug EI2CN ex KN4WQZ


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Re: [Elecraft] P3

2010-04-16 Thread Doug Turnbull
Phil,
   I agree with your desire to keep my K3 PC free.   I do contest and use
WinTest which is a great help but my normal log is paper and all contest
logs are printed out before placing them in a binder.   A good friend of
mine almost gave up the hobby because he could no longer access his HDD
bound logs and yes I know everyone should back up but there is a lot of data
on floppies and zip disks which is becoming harder to access.  My old 1960s
logs are still for the good.   Another reason I prefer to be disconnected
from the PC is lightning protection.   When not in use I tend to disconnect
the K3 from antenna and mains but if it were connected to the PC then there
would be that much more to disconnect so as to stay isolated from phone/LAN
and power mains.   This is a personal choice but it is one of the main
reasons why I am not taking a less expensive approach to the spectrum
display panadaptor.   To each his own and discussion is healthy.

   73 Doug EI2CN   

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Re: [Elecraft] attenuator in amp was Re: K3 and Expert 1K-FA

2010-04-21 Thread Doug Turnbull

Dear OMs,
I can not understand why one would want to run the K3 at 100 W rather
than 20/30/50 Watts.   Why drive the K3 harder when driving it more lightly
should improve reliability and possibly improve linearity.   The waste of
energy is also undesirable; the fifty watts out that is discarded probably
costs 100 Watts of energy.  The idea of adding an attenuator for 50 Watts of
energy sounds mad to me and environmentally unfriendly as well.

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Re: [Elecraft] Wow! Nice Knobs :-)

2010-04-23 Thread Doug Turnbull

Hi,
The know does look and sound nice but oh such an expense.   The Scottish
blood in my veins is turning cold.   One should always question; will the
encoder and its bearings take this added weight for ten years.  How much of
a pain will it be to replace the encoder in the future?   The Collis
equipment is built like a tank while Elecraft makes lightweight stealth
equipment.   There may be some mechanical considerations.

 73 Doug EI2CN

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Sent: 23 April 2010 00:50
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Wow! Nice Knobs :-)


Hi,

I am not sure if I understand what all the excitement is about. From what I
can see from the pictures, the Elecraft knob does not have a swiveling
finger dimple. I am still of the opinion that the tuning knobs on the
Yaecomwood radios are superior just for this reason (I only have personal
experience with ICOM knobs). I would gladly pay the $100 price for a K3
compatible tuning knob equivalent to my IC718 or IC7200 tuning knobs. I
would never pay this kind of money for mere eye candy.

AB2TC - Knut


Don Rasmussen wrote:
 
 For K3: I have never had such a nicely balanced knob on such a silky
 smooth encoder.
 
 Collins, yeah, I can see some advantages to the extra weight. That having
 been said - I do enjoy having the dimple on the outside of the knob, and
 some extra finger room around the VFO B area.
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Re: [Elecraft] knobs

2010-05-02 Thread Doug Turnbull
Tastes vary, the subject is to do with Elecraft products and we have a
delete keys. In time the thread will terminate.  

  73 Doug EI2CN




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Re: [Elecraft] New K3 QRQ CW mode in the works

2010-05-17 Thread Doug Turnbull
Just back from Deyton and solving problems for the amazing group of high
speed CW ops.   Behold for you will not find this attention anywhere else.
 Thanks Doug EI2CN

On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 1:01 AM, Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com wrote:

 I'm working on a new QRQ CW mode that will provide full break-in and
 improved timing accuracy at high CW speeds. Details later this week.

 Thanks for all the input on this topic.

 73,
 Wayne, N6KR

 
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[Elecraft] Memory key pad

2010-05-21 Thread Doug Turnbull
Gentlemen,

 

The macro key pad sounds useful but a simple box replicating the five/seven
button memory switches would be useful for contesting and general operating
I love the built in DVK and Morse memory.   Whatever happens the memory
switches should be so located as to be easy to find in the heat of a
contest.  I believe this may be on the to do list so it may yet happen.
Meanwhile I do not wish this to be taken as a complaint as I can hardly
believe what the Elecraft people are doing for us in upgrading the K3 and
just hope it lasts.   Thank you for such a fine radio.

 

73 EI2CN

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Re: [Elecraft] FT-5000 against K3 ?

2010-05-23 Thread Doug Turnbull
James,
You state this very well.   Competition is good and sooner or later
someone will produce a better radio than the K3.   Many K3 users would like
different emphasis in areas of design but then come to realize that we would
probably miss some of the current features such as portability.   There is
however one area that I bet no one is going to equal and that is the
involvement of design engineers with amateurs!   The design is ever
improving and we have a great community within the Elecraft users.   No
other radio manufacturer yet matches this and I bet no one will.

   73 Doug EI2CN 

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of James Duffey
Sent: 23 May 2010 17:03
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Cc: James Duffey
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] FT-5000 againts K3 ?

Dave - You wrote:

AFAIK, all the testing is done with a single unit. Does anyone have an 
idea as to what the normal unit-to-unit variation is? Are we talking 
0.1dB, 1dB, 5dB?

Variations of a few dB from one unit to another of the same radio are
typical. For the higher performing radios, most operators will not be able
to tell the difference.

There are exceptions, for a particularly pathological case look at the Third
Order Dynamic Range Narrow Spaced (dB) for the two K2s that Robert Sherwood
tested:

 http://www.sherweng.com/table.html  

For radios based on straight analog to digital converters (ADC), that is
those that have no traditional mixer/LO/IF front end, such as the Perseus
the third order dynamic range is not a good figure of merit, as the third
order products do not manifest themselves until the ADC has essentially
saturated. 

Everyone should be happy that other manufacturers are striving for optimum
receiver performance competitive with Elecraft, whether driven by the K3 or
not. Competition is healthy for the market place and we all benefit. It is a
lack of American competition in the 70s and 80s that allowed the Japanese
imports to get a toehold here. For better and for worse.  - Duffey
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[Elecraft] K3 Headphones

2010-05-28 Thread Doug Turnbull
Sam,

When this topic was previously discussed I saw mention of Extreme
Isolation EX 29 headphones which provide:

1) Good noise suppression (29 dB or nearly a factor of 1000 at 1000 Hz) so
you can keep the volume down and not hear your station's fans or the TV in
the next room.

2) Comfort and an adjustable padded headband.

3) Exact impedance match for the K3 at 32 Ohms and hence plenty of volume
from the K3. 

4) They are California made and cost $99. 

5) Stereo headphones with built in adapter for the larger phone plug jack
used on the K3 front panel.   The adapter plugs in and then screws home over
the smaller stereo plug attached permanently to the phones.   The plugs
appear to have gold plating, which is a complete waste.
6) They come with a nine foot line cord which I just wrapped around a
toroidal core even though I was not experiencing problems with noise.   They
are also available with a 40 inch long cord.

I purchased a set and am most pleased with them.

 

 

 You can look the Extreme Isolation EX-29 Headphones up on Google or go
to http://www.quietheadphones.com/product/ex-29 and order by post for $99.
These headphones are made for musicians to use in groups but I think they
are missing another market.

 

 I also have the Heil Proset Plus but prefer these cans for CW work.
Both sets of phones have their advantages but for CW the Extreme Isolation
phones are more to my liking.   The EX 29 will be clamped to my ears this
weekend for CQ WPX.

 

   73 Doug EI2CN

 

PS EI5DI wrote an article for the NCJ some time back on the subject of
headphones.   He prefers Sony MDR EX71SL ear buds because cans bother his
ears when he is wearing glasses.   I also wear spectacles but mine have a
thin wire frames and are comfortable with headphones.

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Re: [Elecraft] [P3] : Eric at the German Hamfest

2010-05-31 Thread Doug Turnbull

It will be good to see Eric at Friedrichshafen.   In the case of Elecraft, I
would purchase a cap if available.   Now I can see the P3, which has already
been ordered.

73 Doug EI2CN 
PS 
1) It will be possible to take FCC exams on Saturday at Friedrichshafen.

2) I plan to be there for the full of Friday and Saturday and if you need
another body on the stand while taking a break then I am amenable.


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Re: [Elecraft] Loudspeakers for the K3

2012-04-17 Thread Doug Turnbull
Radio Shack sells two reasonably small stereo speakers.   They are black and
have the name AUVIO or KLH on them.   The dimensions are 4.75W x 7.5H x 4
deep.   They match well with the K3 and are moderately priced.   They match
well to the K3 and sound great to me.I have two sets of these for my two
K3s and am pleased with them.

  73 Doug EI2CN
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From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Phil LaMarche
Sent: 17 April 2012 18:52
To: 'Jim LeFevre'; Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Loudspeakers for the K3

I've posted this a year ago but want to repeat.  Probably an over kill but I
run the K3 into a stereo amp and then to book case speakers mounted on the
wall and pointed down at me.  Wonderful audio that I never tire of, even
after many hours on the K3. I've used these for over 15 years and find them
the best.  No RFI.  Phil

Philip LaMarche

 
727-944-3226
727-510-5038 Cell 
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WWW.FLAMGROUP.COM

K3 # 1605
KPA500 # 029
P3 #1480

 CCA 98-00827
CRA 1701
W9DVM
 


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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim LeFevre
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 1:44 PM
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Loudspeakers for the K3

I'm using the Inland ProSound 2000 multimedia speaker system. AC cable, no
wall wart. Signal connector is mini-phone and fits the I/O firmly. Stereo
AFX and Diversity image nicely with speakers about 30 apart. Running
barefoot right next to the K3, I've never had any interference. Footprint
for each speaker is 3.5 x 3.25. WalMart has these speakers for $10.84 (I
paid $6.99 at MicroCenter about 2.5 yrs. ago). The specs say 3.6W x2. I have
the volume set at 50%, and the volume on the K3 at 25% and its just right.
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Firmware 1.16 and SVGA 1.04 now available

2012-04-28 Thread Doug Turnbull
Hi All,
 I am having some difficultly in updating my P3 firmware.P3 Utility
1.12.4.26 is installed but when I check for new Firmware Available I am told
they are: 
MCU 01.13
SVGA 01.02
FPGA0 01.02
FPGA1 01.02
FPGA2 01.02
FPGA3 01.02
FPGA4 01.02
And that these are already installed.Should not the latest P3 utility
automatically tell me of updates available and then allow me to install
them.Any on e have a suggestion?   Thank you.

 73 Doug EI2CN   
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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Paul Saffren N6HZ
Sent: 27 April 2012 23:21
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] P3 Firmware 1.16 and SVGA 1.04 now available

P3 Version 1.16, SVGA version 1.04 and P3 Utility version 1.12.4.26 are all
now available from the Elecraft website.   We are suggesting that users
update their P3 Utility to the latest version. 

P3 Utility is available at:
http://www.elecraft.com/software/P3/P3_Utility_Setup_1_12_4_26.exe
P3 1.16 and SVGA 1.04:
http://www.elecraft.com/software/elecraft_software_page.htm


MCU 01.16 / 4-27-2012

.   Faster P3 Utility response when no SVGA board is installed
.   Added the menu selection, MENU : SVGA menu : SVGA FW to display
the
revision numbers of SVGA firmware and FPGA images.
.   Disabling the SVGA now blanks the external display.
.   The external display waterfall color bias is initialized properly at
power-up.
.   The AVERAGE and MKRA/B parameter adjustment text on the external
display
is removed when the adjustment is exited on the P3.
.   The VFB RS-232 command now works with the SVGA display.
.   MKR A and MKR B adjustment text on the external display is still on
after
changing SVGA resolution and after the un-QSY function.
.   The waterfall height adjustment on the external display is
terminated when
pressing a toggle key on the P3.
.   The display frequency is correct when K3 RIT is on after switching
from
tracking to fixed-tune mode.
.   Fixed an intermittent bug in the #QSY RS-232 command.
.   VFO B cursor displays correctly when VFO B is on a different band.
.   The auto-baud of the K3 RS-232 port works again.  (It broke in
version
1.06.)

P3SVGA 01.04 / 4-20-2012

.   Added U-shaped bracket style cursors. 
.   Added 4 optional fonts which can be selected within the P3 SVGA
menu. 
.   Numerous screen bug-lets fixed such as thicker separation line
between
waterfall and spectrum, removed dark space on right of waterfall, removed
hanging marker frequency lines, disappearing marker highlight when filter
width was narrow, window formatting etc.
.   Added monochrome waterfall color table. 
.   Spectrum trace no longer resets (sags) when VFO A or B is tuned in
fixed
tune mode.
.   Added waterfall color bias, available in P3 SVGA menu.
.   Top and bottom tick marks now move when tuning VFO A in tracking
mode. 
.   Spectrum/Waterfall screen update speed increased slightly. 
.   Vertical white line center frequency added when in tracking mode. 
.   Transmit cursor now displays 'under' VFO A cursor. 
.   Trace averaging now resets using un-averaged data instead of zero. 
.   Fixed RIT bug where RIT was not being displayed correctly. 
.   Fixed I/Q sync bug that caused high noise to display on spectrum
when span
changed.
.   Fixed jumping 200 Hz VFO A/B cursors in fixed tune mode. 

Known Issues: 
1) When CenterEn is enabled on the P3 in tracking mode and the center
frequency is changed, the SVGA frequency does not stay in sync.  This will
be addressed in a future release. 

2) Several users have seen what appears to be flickering in the waterfall
display.  This is not a bug - Its the normal optical result of scrolling
discrete pixelated data and noise up one line at a time across the whole
waterfall.  It happens on the smaller P3 screen too, but it is not as
evident to your eye due to the smaller size.  The effect can be minimized by
setting averaging to 2 and then enabling waterfall averaging. 

3) 1920x1080 resolution does not correctly sync horizontally on some
monitors.  We are aware of this problem and are seeking a solution.  In the
meantime we suggest using 1440x900 resolution. 

73, 

Paul



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC improvements (MCU rev 4.50 / DSP 2.74)

2012-05-07 Thread Doug Turnbull
HI All,
 What do they say in the song, No one does it better.   Thank you
Elecraft, this is why so many of us are rabidly happy about your product.
It helps to have hams running the company which engineers ham radio only.

73 Doug EI2CN

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Tony Estep
Sent: 07 May 2012 22:42
To: Elecraft
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC improvements (MCU rev 4.50 / DSP 2.74)

On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 3:56 PM, Dave Hachadorian k...@arrl.net wrote:

 Thanks for working on this issue!

=
This is a real-life example of a terrific attitude toward customer
satisfaction. When this issue was first raised, the company could have been
defensive and simply asserted that there was no problem -- those of us who
have been doing this for a while can easily think of nearly identical
situations wherein other ham manufacturers have done exactly that. Indeed,
there were comments on this reflector offhandedly dismissing the queries
about signal mush. But not from the design team; they took it to heart
and dug through the problem with a serious desire to replicate it if
possible, and to figure out the source and attack it. And did it right in
the middle of the big production crunch with the KX3, and with no specific
financial payoff in mind. The payoff is in knowing that no stone has been
left unturned to make the K3 the best DX/contest machine it can be, and
that the hams who appreciate that will spread the word.

Tony KT0NY


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Re: [Elecraft] receive antenna

2012-06-22 Thread Doug Turnbull
Would it help to increase the delay in transmitting, CW rise time?   I know
there are products available from a few sources which introduce an extra
delay between TX and RX to overcome your situation.   With My K3 and
inverted L the separation of K9AY and inverted L is greater than yours but
not as much as I would like and all is okay.   Previously I had problems
with an Orion 2 when using an RX antenna.   Experimenting with the delay is
easy to do.

73 Doug EI2CN

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of mikefur...@att.net
Sent: 22 June 2012 15:20
To: d...@w3fpr.com; Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] receive antenna

Thought I hit the reply all button ..

-Original Message- 
From: Don Wilhelm 
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 8:26 AM 
To: mikefur...@att.net 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] receive antenna 

Mike,

It would be good if you post that to the Elecraft reflector just for 
general information.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/22/2012 9:20 AM, mikefur...@att.net wrote:
 I have a touchy situation in which my K9AY RX loop is 40' from 160 
 inverted L (very small lot).  I had to install a relay to disconnect 
 the receive antenna from the radio during transmit due to too much 
 energy getting back into the rig.

 73, Mike WA5POK

 -Original Message- From: Don Wilhelm
 Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 5:59 AM
 To: Robert 'RC' Conley
 Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] receive antenna

 RC,

 The receiver is muted during transmit - that has nothing to do with a
 receive antenna.
 I don't know how to mute an antenna, but it is certainly not 
 disconnected.

 Locate your RX antenna away from the transmit antennas, and if you hear
 the COR being activated (relay clicking noise) take action to reduce the
 RF energy coming in on the RX antenna.

 73,
 Don W3FPR

 On 6/21/2012 10:22 AM, Robert 'RC' Conley wrote:
   when you have a receive antenna hooked up and you go into transmit, 
 is the
 RX antenna port is MUTED, or is disconnected.


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Re: [Elecraft] Firmware final?

2012-07-11 Thread Doug Turnbull
Eric indicated in a previous post that Elecraft were aware of the decoding
problem and that it would be fixed in a future upgrade.  It seemed that for
many people the improvement to AGC out weighs the loss of decoding.  Perhaps
with the note explaining what the update accomplished a warning about this
problem could be inserted.

  73 Doug EI2CN

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Gary Gregory
Sent: 11 July 2012 03:53
To: ac8jd
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Firmware final?

*Strange, I was using mine this morning. It wasn't perfect, but, it was
getting 90% or so.

Ver. 4.51 here

Gary
*
On 11 July 2012 10:34, ac8jd ac...@arrl.net wrote:

 My CW Decoder is no longer functioning either since I updated the
firmware.
 Hopefully this is addressed soon.  I tend to use it as an aid when I start
 drifting in a qso or can't keep up with the sending station.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - remote control head

2012-07-27 Thread Doug Turnbull
Bill,
 I wonder if the Elecraft K3 has the I/O signals to easily implement a
remote head.  This is a feature which has been requested in the past and I
think that Elecraft even had a prototype at one time but it died a death -
could be wrong on this last point.I too have hoped for this feature as
implemented with the Orion II but Elecraft has supplied so much it is
churlish for me to look for more.God, an improved AGC for CW, P3 SVGA
adapted for data modes - it is hard to keep up with Elecraft.They are
such an unusual company in their close links to the customer base and
willingness to oblige when they can.   We are a fortunate bunch to have
chosen their product.

 The hot keys software is supposed to implement some of what I want in a
remote control head but the confession is that I have not tried this yet.
Interaction with Micro keyer II or Wintest is my worry but I understand this
is not supposed to be a problem.

73 Doug EI2CN  

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Sent: 27 July 2012 01:44
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 - remote control head

I wonder if the K3's (K3/0) front panel will ever be available as a 
stand alone device similar the Kenwood TS-480?

No big box behind the panel, just a line to the transceiver - which is 
operated remote from where it is mounted on the side of my desk. It is 
very handy to be able to move that control panel all over my desk. This 
is similar to the Yaesu 857D and the Icom 706 and 7000 series.

It is not rocket science - just another purchase for the K3.

Bill W2BLC
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - remote control head

2012-07-27 Thread Doug Turnbull

Mark,
Yes the remoting capabilities are great but a simple pod such as TenTec
uses is what some of us would like.   A good friend EI9KF is using a K3/0
with similar interface boxes and it is a pretty nifty arrangement.

Thanks.
  73 Doug EI2CN
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From: Mark Bayern [mailto:plcm...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 27 July 2012 13:14
To: Doug Turnbull
Cc: Bill; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 - remote control head

How about: http://www.elecraft.com/K3-Remote/k3_remote.htm ?  Uses
an Ethernet connection between the remote and the transmitter.

Mark  AD5SS

On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 4:44 AM, Doug Turnbull turnb...@net1.ie wrote:
 Bill,
  I wonder if the Elecraft K3 has the I/O signals to easily implement a
 remote head.  This is a feature which has been requested in the past and I
 think that Elecraft even had a prototype at one time but it died a death -
 could be wrong on this last point.I too have hoped for this feature as
 implemented with the Orion II but Elecraft has supplied so much it is
 churlish for me to look for more.God, an improved AGC for CW, P3 SVGA
 adapted for data modes - it is hard to keep up with Elecraft.They are
 such an unusual company in their close links to the customer base and
 willingness to oblige when they can.   We are a fortunate bunch to have
 chosen their product.

  The hot keys software is supposed to implement some of what I want in
a
 remote control head but the confession is that I have not tried this yet.
 Interaction with Micro keyer II or Wintest is my worry but I understand
this
 is not supposed to be a problem.

 73 Doug EI2CN


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Re: [Elecraft] I wish Elecraft would make this radio

2013-01-04 Thread Doug Turnbull
Fred,
   You are right but small is beautiful.   This is a dream or wish and I can
understand.   The wee KX1 sure does look like fun.   The Kx3 is incredible
and thanks be for the K3!   Now for the remoter operators who would love
remote P3 capabilities; well the list goes on.   A bit of the Dear Santa
Claus letters is surely okay.   Elecraft has kept us a pretty happy lot.
  73 EI2CN

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Fred Smith
Sent: 04 January 2013 20:04
To: 'Jeffrey Blumenfeld'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] I wish Elecraft would make this radio

I wish that Elecraft just keeps doing as it has in the past and present with
new and old products. Being it parts, improvements, firmware upgrades they
are so far ahead of all the others all they need to do is what they have
been doing all along!

It sure works for me...

Fred/N0AZZ



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From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Blumenfeld
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 11:24 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] I wish Elecraft would make this radio

I have a KX-1, and will soon have a KX-3.

I agree they are different radios, in the best possible way.  I would also
say that adding the features that would turn a KX-1 into a KX-3 not only
makes no business sense for Elecraft, but also would disserve the loyal
customer base.

That said, the two features of the KX-1 I would love to see added/changed
are:
1. More digits in the display.  Maybe it's just me, but I often have to
toggle among resolutions to remember where I am in the band.
2. More bands.  Not necessarily all.  For qrp, 20 and 30 are great for
daytime, and 40 and 80 for night.  Would be nice to have 15.

I do love the size of the KX-1, which makes it the perfect
take-along-on-a-business-trip-even-when-unsure-you-will-have-time-to-play
radio.  I think the KX-3 is a little too big for that, but the perfect size
for taking along when you KNOW you'll have time to play.

Thanks for being Elecraft.  Best thing that has happened to fun ham radio
since I was licensed in 1964.

73,

Jeff  KB3DX


Jeffrey Blumenfeld

jeffreyblumenf...@mac.com

M
3/13

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Re: [Elecraft] 4th of July

2013-07-04 Thread Doug Turnbull
Hi OMs
 Yes and thank you France for your much needed help.   The closest
relationship is with the UK but you saved our bacon besides we rather like
the Statue of Liberty.

  Peace and 73 Doug EI2CN, KC1AV ex K4WQZ, W1CGG

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From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Fred Smith
Sent: 04 July 2013 08:15
To: 'Tim Hague'
Cc: 'Elecraft'
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 4th of July

 Yes best wishes to everyone on this day where we celebrate our freedom God
Bless you all! I hope we all see another one.


73,
Fred/N0AZZ
K3 Ser # 6730--KX3 # 2573--K2/100 # 6470-KAT100
P3/SVGA--KPA500--KAT500--W2



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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Tim Hague
Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2013 2:31 AM
Cc: Elecraft
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 4th of July

Yes happy 4th July, kicking us out of the US was one thing but throwing the
tea in Boston Harbour was totally inexcusable:)

Best regards, Tim Hague
Skype m0afj.Tim
Sent on my iPad


On 4 Jul 2013, at 07:21, f9oj.7 f9o...@wanadoo.fr wrote:

 Wishing a happy National Day to all the Elecrafters, and to the Staff !
 Best 73 from
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Re: [Elecraft] 4th of July

2013-07-04 Thread Doug Turnbull
Eric,
Well put!   I will drink to what you say and to the Fourth.
   73 Doug EI2CN

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of EricJ
Sent: 04 July 2013 18:41
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 4th of July

The French saw something in us then that we no longer recognize in 
ourselves.

If the British had had their way, we'd probably all be drinking better 
beer, though.

Eric
KE6US

On 7/4/2013 1:31 AM, Doug Turnbull wrote:
 Hi OMs
   Yes and thank you France for your much needed help.   The closest
 relationship is with the UK but you saved our bacon besides we rather like
 the Statue of Liberty.

Peace and 73 Doug EI2CN, KC1AV ex K4WQZ, W1CGG

 -Original Message-
 From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
 [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Fred Smith
 Sent: 04 July 2013 08:15
 To: 'Tim Hague'
 Cc: 'Elecraft'
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 4th of July

   Yes best wishes to everyone on this day where we celebrate our freedom
God
 Bless you all! I hope we all see another one.


 73,
 Fred/N0AZZ
 K3 Ser # 6730--KX3 # 2573--K2/100 # 6470-KAT100
 P3/SVGA--KPA500--KAT500--W2



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 [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Tim Hague
 Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2013 2:31 AM
 Cc: Elecraft
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 4th of July

 Yes happy 4th July, kicking us out of the US was one thing but throwing
the
 tea in Boston Harbour was totally inexcusable:)

 Best regards, Tim Hague
 Skype m0afj.Tim
 Sent on my iPad


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[Elecraft] Elecraft[low power] We span the Atlantic

2013-08-12 Thread Doug Turnbull
Dear OMs and Yls,

   Okay the subject line is rather hoaky but I write to tell you that
a wet string sometimes works.Brought up in the sixties on radio, I
remember the bunkum adverts for the Gotham Vertical.  Two months ago I
worked a South Carolina station using a KX3 and AlexLoop inside his room and
this impressed me a good bit.I have a KX3 waiting for me in Connecticut
and was looking for a portable antenna to use with it.   I still doubted the
AlexLoop would be an adequate antenna.

  Tonight using a friend's AlexLoop inside the shack I worked across the
pond thirteen times between 19:36 and 21:52 using 9 Watts from the K3.
This antenna measuring just under a meter in diameter was sitting on my easy
chair.   I am pretty impressed and you can take it Hugh that I will purchase
one for my self.   This antenna collapses into a case 41 x 27 x 9 cm in size
and weighs perhaps 1 kg with the case.   Surely a long wire out the window
would out perform the AlexLoop (magnetic loop antenna) but it is not always
possible to drop a quarter wave length out the window.I am not saying
these QSOs all came easily but many answered on my first call but of course
it was near the end of the contest and replies were becoming harder to
obtain.I believe the AlexLoop with my KX3 is going to prove fun while
visiting the USA.

 

   States and Provinces worked during WAE:

VY2ZM NS

N8BJQ  OH

K1LZ MA

W2LK   NY

NY4ANC

AA3BPA

VE3AT  ON

 K1RX   NM

K3WW  PA

KE9KI   IN

W1EQ  CT

NB1N  MA

K3WI  MD

 

All of this was done on 20M CW earlier I was on 17M and worked six EU
stations in a short period of time.   I have also managed two QSOs on 30M.
The antenna works.   It is not near the equal of a 14AVQ with single ground
rod but my need is to be able to make CW QSOs when away from home.  The
power limit for the antennas between ten and twenty watts.   I would think
no more that ten watts for data modes and perhaps it is better to stay to
ten watts maximum when on CW.

   Normally from my home QTH in Ireland I run the K3 at 65W to a 4
element SteppIR up 80 feet.   I run 1500W now allowed in EI for contests.
There is no comparison between capabilities.   This morning I found nothing
on 20M with the Alex loop and then went down to 30M to search out a couple
of QSOs.   It is never the case that 20M is dead with the SteppIR but the
AlexLoop can travel with me on a plane and I can make QSOs and keep my fist
active.  QRP is 5W but QRP into a Yagi is not the same as 9W into an indoor
AlexLoop.When one has worked most of the DX entities currently active
this adds a bit of zest.

 

 73 Doug EI2CN





 

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Re: [Elecraft] Just a thought

2013-08-16 Thread Doug Turnbull
Mike,
I bet the equipment is donated and besides these non-USA manufacturers
have been advertising and thus supporting the league for many years.They
also make good gear but remember that there are one hell of a lot of K3, K2
and KX3 radios being used outside North America.   Our hobby is world wide -
DX is the driving point for many of us.   Note also that ARRL remains aloof
as it needs to if producing credible reviews in QST.

Competition is good.   The old USA manufactures lost it with SSB and
solid state electronics for a number of years.   Now there is a new group of
companies really competing.   I bet no one offers the service and attention
to its customers that Elecraft does.   The bar has been lifted and the
standard of radios from overseas has also improved but can they match the
personal touch of Eric, Wayne and friends?

 Yes I am happy to see my country of birth and citizenship again
producing quality ham radio equipment.   It is natural to feel this way but
my dream car is still a Porsche.

  73 Doug EI2CN

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From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Mike
Sent: 16 August 2013 11:30
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Just a thought

Septembers QST arrived the other day and on page 13 is a run down of W1AW.
Noticed its loaded with all non U.S. made rigs! No Elecraft or Ten Tec rigs
both made in America. 
Just a thought that makes me go h? 
Mike 
VE3WDM  
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 and whats next from Elecraft

2013-08-19 Thread Doug Turnbull
Dear OMs and Yls,
 DSP helps us all but the analogue side of electronics will be with us
for some time.   Audio and RF are both analogue signals   Amplifiers are
needed and amplifiers often benefit from some filtering.The DAC and ADC
are of course both digital and analogue.What we want is the optimum
blend without any fixation on digital, analogue or computer processing.

 Many of us feel that Elecraft has got the GUI pretty well developed.
The Flex Radio approach just does not suit all of us though perhaps we are
as a hobby getting too long in the tooth.   

 Always be ready to investigate new approaches but let us not be too
insistent on DSP over all other approaches.

73 Doug EI2CN



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[Elecraft] [KX1] paddle question

2013-09-07 Thread Doug Turnbull
Dear OMs and Yls,
I just took delivery of a KX1 purchased used.   I am most impressed with
the small radio and have now made four QSOs with fellow EUs running 4 Watts
to a 4 el SteppIR at 24M.   Well the test will come when I change over to a
hank of wire operated against a counterpoise.   The receiver is amazing to
me and the transmitter pretty good.So much is in such a small package.

My main gripe just now is the lousy paddle which comes with the KX1 as a
option.I also have a KX3 also purchased used and waiting for me in
Connecticut.   It has a paddle which I have tried on my friends KX3 - this
paddle is much better than the one on the KX1.Can I swap the KX3 paddle
onto the KX1?I know Bengali has an elegant wee paddle which mounts on
the KX1 or KX3 depending on the attachment purchased.   This may be my
ultimate solution but the KX3 paddle if it mounts would be a big help.

   I do not want to carry around an external paddle weighing more than the
KX1.   The extremely small size and weight have a great attraction to me.
Having a big bag of accessories is not to my liking.   A simple radio and
some wire seems to be ideal for me.The KX3 is for different
applications.

   The receiver is great fun on both CW and SSB and the stability of it
impresses me.  Today was discussing the old Hallicrafters SX28 and you know
the KX1 seems to have a better receiver.  I think this small wonder is great
fun and can see why Elecraft has kept it in the product line.

   73 Doug EI2CN

K3, KX3, KX1



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Re: [Elecraft] [KX1] paddle question

2013-09-07 Thread Doug Turnbull
Hi Eric,
   I thought of the palm mini but like the idea of a paddle attached to the
KX1/KX3.   We agree the KX1 paddle sucks.   Sorry Elecraft, I have an awful
lot that is good to say about you but your KXPD1 is not one of them.   Truth
should not be suppressed.
73 Doug EI2CN

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of EricJ
Sent: 07 September 2013 18:58
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [KX1] paddle question

I found the KX1 paddle to be, at best, an acquired skill. One that I 
chose not to acquire. I used the frame to homebrew a tiny touch paddle, 
but that was just for fun. It worked very nicely,but required a button 
battery that I didn't want to have to depend on when camping. I settled 
on the Palm Mini Paddle. It's a lot cheaper than the Bengali Adventure 
(which wasn't available then), and is an excellent performer, nearly 
indestructible and packs very small. They make a mount to put it on the 
KX1, but I find a paddle bolted to a rig to be too inflexible for 
comfortable operating.

Eric
KE6US

On 9/7/2013 4:09 AM, Doug Turnbull wrote:
 Dear OMs and Yls,
  I just took delivery of a KX1 purchased used.   I am most impressed
with
 the small radio and have now made four QSOs with fellow EUs running 4
Watts
 to a 4 el SteppIR at 24M.   Well the test will come when I change over to
a
 hank of wire operated against a counterpoise.   The receiver is amazing to
 me and the transmitter pretty good.So much is in such a small package.

  My main gripe just now is the lousy paddle which comes with the KX1
as a
 option.I also have a KX3 also purchased used and waiting for me in
 Connecticut.   It has a paddle which I have tried on my friends KX3 - this
 paddle is much better than the one on the KX1.Can I swap the KX3
paddle
 onto the KX1?I know Bengali has an elegant wee paddle which mounts on
 the KX1 or KX3 depending on the attachment purchased.   This may be my
 ultimate solution but the KX3 paddle if it mounts would be a big help.

 I do not want to carry around an external paddle weighing more than
the
 KX1.   The extremely small size and weight have a great attraction to me.
 Having a big bag of accessories is not to my liking.   A simple radio and
 some wire seems to be ideal for me.The KX3 is for different
 applications.

 The receiver is great fun on both CW and SSB and the stability of it
 impresses me.  Today was discussing the old Hallicrafters SX28 and you
know
 the KX1 seems to have a better receiver.  I think this small wonder is
great
 fun and can see why Elecraft has kept it in the product line.

 73 Doug EI2CN

 K3, KX3, KX1



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Re: [Elecraft] [KX1] paddle question

2013-09-07 Thread Doug Turnbull
Don, Your points are taken.   The KXPD3 is by far a better paddle than the
KXPD1 from this operator's point of view.   I can struggle with the KXPD1
but hate it so the very dear Bengali will probably be my solution.   We are
all different but for me the KXPD1 does not meet Elecraft standards.   The
KX1 on the other hand is a marvel for such a small box.   Thank you for your
tips!   I will keep them in mind and soldier on with the KXPD1 until a
Bengali is in my hands.It is too bad the KXPD3 can not be used with the
KX1.  We are all entitled and perhaps I am just not good enough to use the
KXPD1.   73 Doug EI2CN and thank you again.   

-Original Message-
From: Donald Butler [mailto:n...@comcast.net] 
Sent: 07 September 2013 20:01
To: 'Doug Turnbull'; 'EricJ'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] [KX1] paddle question

I think we often become much too critical and forget that the KX1 and
KXPD1 are designed for portable use, particularly light backpacking and
portable operation.  I therefore believe it is unfair to compare them
with other paddles and transceivers.  I own a KX1/KDPD1 and a KX3/KXPD3,
and also have two K3s (with which I use a Begali Magnetic Signature
paddle).  The Begali is far, far superior to these small portable
paddles of course ... As it should be the KXPD3 is better than the
KXPD1 . but as far as I'm concerned the KXPD1 is also perfectly
satisfactory for the type of operation for which it is primarily
intended.  I did have difficulty when I first got it, but quickly
learned that it works almost perfectly if I squeeze the paddles at the
very tips rather than the mid-paddle area..in my hands it was that
simple to solve the problem.

I think the KX1 and KX3 are both engineering marvels and I love them
both.  When I'm operating portable, I think an occasional dropped dit or
dah is a very small price to pay for the convenience of having light,
easy to carry paddles securely mounted to a totally self-contained
portable transceiver.

Don, N5LZ


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From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Doug Turnbull
Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 1:10 PM
To: 'EricJ'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [KX1] paddle question


Hi Eric,
   I thought of the palm mini but like the idea of a paddle attached to
the
KX1/KX3.   We agree the KX1 paddle sucks.   Sorry Elecraft, I have an
awful
lot that is good to say about you but your KXPD1 is not one of them.
Truth
should not be suppressed.
73 Doug EI2CN

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of EricJ
Sent: 07 September 2013 18:58
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [KX1] paddle question

I found the KX1 paddle to be, at best, an acquired skill. One that I 
chose not to acquire. I used the frame to homebrew a tiny touch paddle, 
but that was just for fun. It worked very nicely,but required a button 
battery that I didn't want to have to depend on when camping. I settled 
on the Palm Mini Paddle. It's a lot cheaper than the Bengali Adventure 
(which wasn't available then), and is an excellent performer, nearly 
indestructible and packs very small. They make a mount to put it on the 
KX1, but I find a paddle bolted to a rig to be too inflexible for 
comfortable operating.

Eric
KE6US

On 9/7/2013 4:09 AM, Doug Turnbull wrote:
 Dear OMs and Yls,
  I just took delivery of a KX1 purchased used.   I am most
impressed
with
 the small radio and have now made four QSOs with fellow EUs running 4
Watts
 to a 4 el SteppIR at 24M.   Well the test will come when I change over
to
a
 hank of wire operated against a counterpoise.   The receiver is
amazing to
 me and the transmitter pretty good.So much is in such a small
package.

  My main gripe just now is the lousy paddle which comes with the 
 KX1
as a
 option.I also have a KX3 also purchased used and waiting for me in
 Connecticut.   It has a paddle which I have tried on my friends KX3 -
this
 paddle is much better than the one on the KX1.Can I swap the KX3
paddle
 onto the KX1?I know Bengali has an elegant wee paddle which mounts
on
 the KX1 or KX3 depending on the attachment purchased.   This may be my
 ultimate solution but the KX3 paddle if it mounts would be a big help.

 I do not want to carry around an external paddle weighing more 
 than
the
 KX1.   The extremely small size and weight have a great attraction to
me.
 Having a big bag of accessories is not to my liking.   A simple radio
and
 some wire seems to be ideal for me.The KX3 is for different
 applications.

 The receiver is great fun on both CW and SSB and the stability of 
 it impresses me.  Today was discussing the old Hallicrafters SX28 and 
 you
know
 the KX1 seems to have a better receiver.  I think this small wonder is
great
 fun and can see why Elecraft has kept it in the product line

Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] KX3 with Alex Loop

2013-11-03 Thread Doug Turnbull
Gary,
 I have a KX3 and KX1 and have operated both portable from Connecticut
and from home in EI using this antenna on CW.I have spanned the ocean in
both directions while operating with the antenna inside the shack.   This is
a thrill every time.   What I find good about the AlexLoop is the ability to
set up in some one's home and make a few QSOs.   It is however no wonder
antenna and in fairness no Gotham vertical claims are made for it.   I would
be very sure that the Buddipole is the better antenna but one would want to
try them side by side.   The Alex Loop does fold up into a nice small case.
Have you considered the new SteppIR CrankIR.   I think this is a much better
antenna when compared to the AlexLoop.   Having said all of this I am
pleased to have the AlexLoop and it does allow me to get on while travelling
without outside wires.   You must be selective in where the AlexLoop is
positioned; too close to some wires or metal and it may not perform as you
would like.

   73 Doug EI2CN

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Gary Hawkins
Sent: 03 November 2013 16:00
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] [KX3] KX3 with Alex Loop

First thanks to all those that responded to my request to see a KX3 - that
was achieved this weekend.

I'm looking to setup a light weight SOTA setup.  In addition to the KX3, I
also saw a mini-buddipole and while it seems to be well manufactured and
comes in a nice case it weighs about 2.5lbs, plus mast with either guys or
tripod.  An end-fez sloper would be extremely light but here in southern CA
our peaks are short on trees, thus requiring at least one telescoping pole.
This has led me to consider the Alex Loop - appears very light, fast to
setup, no need to get it more than 5ft of the ground.  Being a mag loop
should help with QRM at local urban QTH as well.

I'd love to hear from anyone using the Alex Loop with a KX3, and if you
tried other SOTA type antennas as well all the better.

Gary
KK6GXD
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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] KX3 with Alex Loop

2013-11-03 Thread Doug Turnbull
Dave,

 This is a  good question.   I have had line cords which came within
inches of the antenna and did not seem problematic but a fan a foot distant
was.   The one thing is that you can tune in a station and try moving the
antenna.I know this is not quantitative - these are just my experiences
in a timber frame home. 

 

 

   Of course this is not a problem on top a mountain and so maybe the
compensations allowed by height and being in the open compensate to a large
degree for the antennas deficiencies.   The Alex Loop is very portable and
can be set up inside a room and it works but I had to work for most of my
QSOs.   The one exception being at the tail end of a contest when the big
guns were hungry in the USA and I worked fourteen Ws running ten watts and
the Alex Loop inside the shack. It is impractical to be separated from
the Alex Loop by any distance as one needs to tune the antenna if you change
frequency by more than 20 kHz or so.   Still I could operate and monitor
from both my sister's and brother's spare bedrooms.It is neat to be
running the KX1 with four watts and work across the Atlantic with a small
inside antenna - it can also require some effort.

73 Doug EI2CN

 

P.S. QRP with my 4 element SteppIR at 24M / 80 feet is not the same as QRP
with an Alex Loop and 5 Watts.

 

 

 

  _  

From: David Christ [mailto:radio...@mchsi.com] 
Sent: 03 November 2013 20:14
To: Doug Turnbull
Cc: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] KX3 with Alex Loop

 

How close is too close?

 

David K0LUM

 

 

On Nov 3, 2013, at 1:27 PM, Doug Turnbull wrote:





  You must be selective in where the AlexLoop is
positioned; too close to some wires or metal and it may not perform as you
would like.

  73 Doug EI2CN

 

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Re: [Elecraft] Shipping costs for Warranty repair

2013-11-26 Thread Doug Turnbull
Poul-Erik,
 I shipping costs in the EU are in many countries pretty excessive -
costs are not the same in each of our individual countries.   I do not think
Elecraft could so easily make an open ended commitment in the EU.   I am
sure that stateside they have an agreement with UPS and this type of
arrangement is easier there.

  Well it is perhaps easier for us to get Acom or Expert amplifiers
serviced here than in the USA.

  73 Doug EI2CN 

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Fred Smith
Sent: 26 November 2013 12:10
To: 'Poul Erik Karlshøj (PKA)'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Cc: oz...@mail.tele.dk
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Shipping costs for Warranty repair

They follow SOP of all companies I'm aware of in that regard you pay in they
pack back to you. Seems fair to me. Think about a radio like I had a Yaesu
FTDX-5000MP that weighted 59# shipping weight or an amp in 2 packaged that
weigh's over a 100# and one is  small box very heavy the other a large box.
It costs $175 to Alpha one way then back in CO and I live in MO.

Makes sending something to Elecraft a real bargain IMHO.


73,
Fred/N0AZZ
K3 Ser # 6730--KX3 # 5210--K2/100 # 6470-KAT100
P3/SVGA--KAT500--W2
Amps Elecraft KPA500 HF/6m--Alpha's 9500 HF--87A HF--Mirage B-5030-G
300+w--(2) B-5016-G's 165w 2m



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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Poul Erik Karlshøj
(PKA)
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 4:34 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Cc: oz...@mail.tele.dk
Subject: [Elecraft] Shipping costs for Warranty repair

Hi all
Elecraft repair and warranty policy is literally clear:
Elecraft will pay shipping to return the repaired equipment to you by UPS
ground service or equivalent to the continental USA and Canada. Alaska,
Hawaii and outside U.S. and Canada actual return shipping cost paid by
owner.

This is understandable if the repair service is done in USA.
However, when the warranty repair of a European customers Elecraft product
is done by a  European based Elecraft repair service, I would find it fair
that Elecraft would pay for returning the warranty-repaired item.

What do you think?
What does Elecraft think?

73 de OZ4UN
Poul-Erik
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Re: [Elecraft] Fred Cady (KE7X) books 40% off till 12/31 via Lulu

2013-12-29 Thread Doug Turnbull
Rob,
Thanks for the heads up.   I ordered one for a friend today.   Fred's K3
book is $28.92 including shipping to EI.I consider this pretty good
value.   The price of the book has I think increased but Fred has done a
good job.

 The KX3 book is also most useful and a handy addition to the KX3.

 Like your self I have no association with KE7X.   It was nice to work
KE7X a couple of times in contests.  We did exchange e-mails and I rank him
a friend for the help his books have provided.   Never seen the man.   A
good writer is complimenting the products of a responsive Elecraft.

 73 Doug EI2CN

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From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Rob May
Sent: 29 December 2013 05:15
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Fred Cady (KE7X) books 40% off til 12/31 via Lulu

Thanks for the heads up Keith, I picked up the K3 and KX3 books for $51.44
total including shipping.  
Rob
NV5E

 From: kb9...@wi.rr.com
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2013 21:28:29 -0600
 Subject: [Elecraft] Fred Cady (KE7X) books 40% off til 12/31 via Lulu
 
 I just received KE7X's 2nd edition K3 book for 40% off from Lulu.com.  The

 coupon expires 12/31/13  http://www.coupons.com/coupon-codes/lulu/
 
 This book lists for $44 w/shipping, but I got it for $28.  I ordered it on

 12/21, and received it on 12/27.
 
 I have no affiliation with Fred or Lulu
 
 Keith
 KB9WMJ
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Shipping a K3

2013-12-31 Thread Doug Turnbull
Dear OM Poul Erik,
This would increase costs for Elecraft in dealing with Europe and
therefore need to result in higher sales price.   Elecraft prices are not
exorbitant.   They do not use a dealer network.   If you purchase from a
dealer in the UK the rule of thumb is your price in Pounds will be about the
same as that in Dollars or about 65% higher and often the UK warranty is not
as good as that in the USA.   I personally hope Elecraft never locks us into
dealerships.   You can still purchase directly with a savings in cost or you
can purchase from a dealer and take advantage of their warranty.   Mind you
the savings are not 65% as you must pay for shipping and taxes.  We pay for
living in Europe but there are also some things we prefer here.

Elecraft support is good and so if you can localize the fault to a
module then the module could be returned rather than the whole radio.The
Elecraft products are reasonably reliable and not prone to failure.   I do
not believe we are going to do better.  I would not find radios from other
manufacturers to be better supported.

You are right to explore the topic.   Please forgive my counter view.
I wish you and your family a Happy 2014.

 73 Doug EI2CN  

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Poul Erik Karlshøj
(PKA)
Sent: 31 December 2013 10:03
To: Rick Dettinger; g...@ka1j.com
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Shipping a K3

Please be aware, if you are from outside the US,  when sending Elecraft
equipment for repair *including warranty repair* you will have to pay for
the return shipping.

For European hams, Elecraft is offering the option to have faulty equipment
repaired by a partner in Italy.
However, unlike your American ham friends, for warranty repair you will be
requested also to pay for the return shipping - also if you choose to have
the faulty Elecraft gear  repaired locally in Europe.
It may be that the same applies to other ham-radio manufacturers. But we got
used to get a better service from Elecraft than from the others. Concerning
shipping that's however not the case.

In my job I have over the years  sent professional equipment for warranty
repair both in the US and in Canada, and I believe those companies did pay
for the return shipping without asking.

I earlier - in this forum - have asked for a comment from Elecraft to this
service related issue, but Elecraft decided not to comment (hopefully they
will do now).

73 and best wishes for everybody in 2014
OZ4UN
Poul-Erik
K2/100, K3/100, KPA500 (for warranty  repair!), KAT500

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Fra: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] På vegne af Rick Dettinger
Sendt: 31. december 2013 09:27
Til: g...@ka1j.com
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Emne: Re: [Elecraft] Shipping a K3

If you pack it, the USPS will advise when you go to the Post Office.
I think its called Priority Mail these days.
Double packing is a good idea.
I have purchased boxes from shipping supply stores.  They also have packing
material if you haven't saved any.  USPS doesn't want any other writing on
the boxes.  It confuses the computer.

73,
Rick Dettinger  K7MW


On Dec 30, 2013, at 9:12 PM, Gary Smith wrote:

 I'm going to be shipping my K3. Any suggestions on the most affordable 
 way considering insurance? I'll be packing it myself, double boxed 
 with good padding and am thinking USPS 1st class.
 Haven't sent out anything pricey in years.
 
 Thanks  Happy New Year
 
 Gary
 KA1J
 
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Re: [Elecraft] JARD Technical Standard Certification Number for K3 orK3X

2014-01-07 Thread Doug Turnbull
Friends,
 These approvals: CE, UL, FCC and JARD all cost money to obtain.   There
is some redundancy between them and type approvals can be used as barriers
to free trade.  Standards are needed but when each nation has its own then
it is expensive and time consuming for a small manufacturer to break into
new markets.   I would prefer the Elecraft engineers worked on product
improvement rather than yet another type approval.

   73 Doug EI2CN

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From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Robert Nobis
Sent: 07 January 2014 08:51
To: j...@audiosystemsgroup.com
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] JARD Technical Standard Certification Number for K3
orK3X

Jim,

I assume it requires a business decision. There may not be sufficient
enough customer base in Japan to warrant the cost of Elecraft getting the
certification for the K3 and KX3.

Bob  -  N7RJN

On 1/6/14, 10:37 PM, Jim Brown j...@audiosystemsgroup.com wrote:

On 1/6/2014 9:01 AM, Seiji Okumura wrote:
 K3/K3X does not have Technical Standard Certification Number.
 See http://www.jarl.or.jp/English/3_Application/A-3.htm

And why do they not have such certification?

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] Remote encoder?

2011-02-22 Thread Doug Turnbull
Ken and Eric,
This encoder looks good but lacks buttons for activating the CW/SSB
memories which for me is the biggest advantage of a remote pod.   I use
these memories all the time in normal operation as they save time, effort
and voice.   A pod would be much easier to access than the small buttons on
the K3.   I also have an Orion II with pod and find it most helpful!   Even
in contests where WinTest and the Micro Keyer II do most of the work it
would be most useful to be able to access the K3 memories for some extra
messages but as I have learned it can cause problems to just stab your
finger at the radio in the heat of a contest.   A pod has more limited
possibilities for getting into trouble and can be conveniently placed on the
operating desk.

 Well this is an old talking point for me and I suppose Elecraft is so
busy that it will remain on a back burner.   We are a demanding lot but
TenTec does it so why not emulate the best of what is available from TT.
Meanwhile the K3 is number one radio in this shack.

   73 Doug EI2CN   

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ken Alexander
Sent: 22 February 2011 05:01
To: elecr...@yahoogroups.com; elecraft...@yahoogroups.com;
k3contest...@yahoogroups.co.uk; elecraft@mailman.qth.net; Eric Rosenberg
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Remote encoder?

Hi Eric,

Try here:

http://www.g4ilo.com/ktune.html

It was designed for a K3 but I've been thinking of trying this with my K2.

73,

Ken Alexander
VE3HLS


--- On Mon, 2/21/11, Eric Rosenberg ericrosenberg...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Eric Rosenberg ericrosenberg...@gmail.com
 Subject: [Elecraft] Remote encoder?
 To: elecr...@yahoogroups.com, elecraft...@yahoogroups.com,
k3contest...@yahoogroups.co.uk, elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Date: Monday, February 21, 2011, 10:18 PM
 One of the nicest features of the
 Orion (and previous Ten Tec rigs) is 
 the availability of a remote encoder - a tuning knob off
 the rig.  Over 
 the years, they've ranged from the encoder (tuning knob) by
 itself, or, 
 in its present incarnation, a tuning knob and keypad.
 
 Is there an equivalent for the K3 (presumably a third-party
 developed item)?
 
 Thanks,
 Eric W3DQ
 Washington, DC
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Re: [Elecraft] Why I won't purchase K3

2011-03-06 Thread Doug Turnbull
Hi All,
No criticism of Elecraft as I am a convert to the K3 but building your
own means home brew not building a kit.   Heathkits, were always fun and yes
you learned something from the step by step assembly but never so much as
you learned from scrounging exchange parts, laying out the chassis, drilling
cutting filing and building from scratch.   A design of your own takes
things even further down this path but even using a magazine article project
counts as home brew but not kits.

 I like kits, I like my assembled K3 and I like home brew but have not
done any not in a shameful length of time.   Forgive an old goat of 51 years
in the hobby.   I do understand that the K2 does involve more work than many
a kit including some coil winding.   Elecraft makes good gear and good kits.
Mechanical assembly of the K3 may well help when trouble shooting in future.

   73 Doug EI2CN

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of David Gilbert
Sent: 06 March 2011 16:38
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Why I won't purchase K3


No offense meant (seriously), but I'm not sure why your definition of 
build it yourself must include soldering, which I perceive as just as 
mechanical operation as tightening screws.  Yes ... it is a different 
skill requiring dexterity and care, especially in the case of surface 
mount devices, but it bears no more relationship to the electronic 
aspect of a kit than does aligning a connector.  There is just a lot 
more of it to do.  If the percent of effort in assembly is a required 
part of your definition, fine ... but there is no reason why you can't 
learn every bit as much about the theory of operation of the K3 as you 
can with the K2 except that the K3 is a heck of a lot more complex.  The 
schematics for the K3 are all available and there are folks on this 
reflector who would gladly step forward with insight into the tough parts.

Now then, if you were required to design part of the rig yourself, or 
write some of the processing code, or align the various stages ... then 
I would say that you had a hand in homebrewing your rig.  Otherwise, I 
think you're simply making an arbitrary distinction between two purely 
mechanical tasks.

You also mention that you want to make sure that it is in the best 
state I could possibly make it.  I can fully understand that 
philosophy, but for a rig as complex as the K3 there is no way you could 
do that manually.  Modern automated soldering of fine pitch SMD's is 
going to vastly beat anything you can do by hand even if you were a 
world class surgeon with excellent eyesight, steady hands, and great 
tools ... if for no other reason than the odds of a mistake on the 
zillions of joints involved.

Again, I'm not knocking your preferences, and they are exactly the 
reason that lots of people still prefer to design and build their own 
QRP rigs.  You've chosen the middle ground between that and the K3 by 
deciding that you want to stuff a lot of parts on a PC board but don't 
want to settle for less performance than the K2 offers.  That's probably 
a very good choice on your part, but it's an arbitrary selection on a 
continuum of complexity.

73,
Dave   AB7E

p.s.  I don't find your comments insulting at all ... I just find them 
to be a bit curious and arbitrary.



On 3/6/2011 6:30 AM, Alexey Kats wrote:
 Ladies, gentlemen, and all the other species of HAM community,

 I apologize for such aggressive and somewhat insulting subject of my
 posting. But after reading all the why I purchased Elecraft radio
reasons
 I felt like chirping in.

 I like radios, I like to find out what I can do with it. I like building
 things with my own hands. I didn't have so much fun building fully loaded
 K1, K2, and KX1 in years... like... like.. like I had when I was
assembling
 my own computer with nothing but pliers, 40W soldering iron and
individually
 acquired spare parts back in 90es. It felt like I was giving birth to a
baby
 or something - making sure that it is in the best state I could possibly
 make it. And I could also learn from it, a lot, in fact.

 Now, don't get me wrong, when it comes to the specs of K3 I bow my head to
 the designers of it - it's truly a one son of a  gun radio. It's pretty
much
 the heaven dream for CW. I know that. But there is one thing which makes
me
 uneasy - it's not the radio I built. It's not even the radio I assembled.
 It's the radio someone else built, and all I am reduced to is plates
 arrangements and screwdriver turning. It's almost like I am not sure
whether
 I should be thanking Wayne and Eric, or curse them. (Probably thank them
 more than anything...)

 My gripe with K3 is that even if I buy it, build it, and use it, I can't
 honestly say that I BUILD it. Simply because I didn't build it. With K1,
K2,
 KX1 I learned a lot from its schematics, I was able to figure out what
went
 wrong if something 

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