Re: [EVDL] +more: dink GM hummer pu e-truck ...

Good grief. What are they putting in the Detroit water supply these days? GM's executives have lost their minds. David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = EVDL Information: http://www.evdl.org/help/ = = = = = = = = = = = = = =

[EVDL] Bob Bruninga

FYI, Bob is in the hospital, recovering from surgery for a "football size" tumor. More info when I get it. David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = EVDL Information: http://www.evdl.org/help/ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =

Re: [EVDL] neuronev.co/vega EV concept> Citroen C4 Cactus retrowave looks (v)

On 27 Jan 2020 at 12:47, Mr. Sharkey via EV wrote: > The Chevy Vega might be more respected if GM had been at the > crest of the small car wave during the 1974-ish gas "crisis", instead > of gasping for air after it rolled over them carrying Toyota, Datsun > and Honda to success. I'm not so

Re: [EVDL] neuronev.co/vega EV concept> Citroen C4 Cactus retrowave looks (v)

On 27 Jan 2020 at 5:10, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > Neuron EV Vega Vega. Now THERE'S a time-honored name for a car. :-) David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = EVDL Information: http://www.evdl.org/help/ = = = = = = = = = = = =

Re: [EVDL] Cheapest off grid storage but can it be used to make electricity.

On 26 Jan 2020 at 2:32, Peter VanDerWal via EV wrote: > In fairness, I can see the logic behind these schemes. Punitive EV road taxes are neither logical nor fair. ICEV emissions cost the public -- both in taxes to pay for the environmental damage, and in higher health insurance costs. EVs

Re: [EVDL] Cheapest off grid storage but can it be used to make electricity.

On 24 Jan 2020 at 9:55, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: > That makes PV/Heatpump systems 30 times more cost > effective than in the early 2000's. PLUS, you get FULL retail credit for > every photon that falls on your roof whether you use the hot water or not. Maybe you do, but increasingly across

Re: [EVDL] Hybrids beat EVs on ACEEE greenest car list

On 23 Jan 2020 at 16:24, paul dove via EV wrote: > I personally have issues with non-profits that have unknown funding sources. I'm not an attorney, but my understanding of US law is that nonprofit organizations are required to disclose only "unrelated business income" and not their donors.

Re: [EVDL] Conversion for sale cheap

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[EVDL] Conversion for sale cheap

I'm still looking for a new home for a converted 1991 Ford Escort wagon. I need it out of here in a couple of months. Hand me $200 cash and make it go away. Save it from being donated to a nonprofit and probably scrapped! 1991 FORD ESCORT wagon, ADC 9" motor, Curtis 1231C controller, 128v,

Re: [EVDL] Is it worth it?

On 21 Jan 2020 at 17:40, Christopher Darilek via EV wrote: > The amps are still there, they just don't come out as fast. Amperes IS a measure of how fast the energy leaves the battery. Or do you mean amp-HOURS? That's the unit you use to measure energy. Lead batteries always have less

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Luca ocean-waste-plastic EV> 2seat 2in-wheel rear e-motor paper-concept

On 19 Jan 2020 at 16:37, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: > I particularly like that they will simply display & mic your phone > rather than write stupid software that doesn't work well. Not everyone has a smartphone, or wants one. Some people don't even have or want mobile phones of any kind. So

[EVDL] (Fwd) RAV4-EV for sale

I received a note from an EVDLer who's having some kind of problem posting. We haven't figured out what it is yet, but I suspect that her email address has changed in some way, so that she can receive (some) EVDL mail but can't send any. While I work on fixing the problem, here's what she

Re: [EVDL] Battery life and Buying a Used EV

Wow, lots of FUD in that article. Some of it is correct or nearly so; some of it is half-right, and some of it is just plain rubbish. I'll leave it to you to sort out what's reasonable and what's bogus. Lithium batteries shouldn't stand fully charged when they're very hot. They also

Re: [EVDL] Eminent domain

Here's an interesting thought experiment: I wonder how we'd feel about Chargepoint or Tesla convincing City Hall to use eminent domain to condem properties, so they could build several charging points in a city. What would you think if the properties to be taken were in a slum, with some of

Re: [EVDL] Eminent domain

On 7 Jan 2020 at 8:40, paul dove via EV wrote: > Eminent Domain cannot be used to enrich corporations. I t can only take > private land for public use. That's what ED was intended for, but it's been misued to transfer private property to other private owners for decades now. That use of the

Re: [EVDL] Eminent domain

On 6 Jan 2020 at 17:57, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: > Could Eminent Domain be used to force change of ownership of a thing to put > it to better use? NiMH batteries for instance. Eminent Domain has been egregiously misused in the last few decades, having been used to take private property

Re: [EVDL] NMC backpedaling, 2be like TMC> 2sell EVs that aren’t EVs

On 5 Jan 2020 at 16:10, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: > I can see the argument for plug-in hybrids for single car households. So can I, but they have all the complexity and cost of ICEVs and then some. And their relevance is falling fast as large batteries and rapid charging become more common.

Re: [EVDL] NMC backpedaling, 2be like TMC> 2sell EVs that aren’t EVs

On 5 Jan 2020 at 5:10, Bob Bath via EV wrote: > And this is from a CEO? Where do they find these ppl?!! I'm speculating here, but perhaps Ghosn's promotion of EVs is another reason they wanted to get rid of him. However, I should point out that Hiroto Saikawa is the Nissan CEO. Espinoza is

[EVDL] Carlos Ghosn jumps bail

I don't know what it might mean for the future of EVs in Japan or the EU, but Carlos Ghosn has slipped out of Japan despite being under heavily guarded house arrest. The story reads like something from a B-movie. It was supposedly planned by his Lebanese wife. He hid in a musical

[EVDL] Year of the Electric Car (EU/UK Focus)

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/dec/25/2020-set-to-be-year-of- the-electric-car-say-industry-analysts https://v.gd/vfyhSV 2020 set to be year of the electric car, say industry analysts Mini, Vauxhall Corsa and Fiat 500 will join rapidly expanding European EV market Jasper Jolly

Re: [EVDL] Factory 1997 Chevy S-10 PU e-truck w/ EV1 guts> 60 allowed sold (v)

On 14 Dec 2019 at 16:24, Lee Hart via EV wrote: > electric milk floats Absolutely! They've been used for milk delivery in the UK since around 1920, if I'm not mistaken. In recent decades they've gradually vanished, replaced by faster (and louder) Diesel trucks in the push for productivity,

Re: [EVDL] BURLINGTON-VT's Calfee sez e-driving> IT'S A NO-BRAINER!

On 12 Dec 2019 at 19:45, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > https://dailycaller.com Talk about a biased source! I wouldn't believe anything I read in that rag. If it said the sky was blue and the grass was green, I'd go outside and check. David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = = = =

Re: [EVDL] Paine> auto industry's collective EV-ambivalence, w/o-oil movie

On 8 Dec 2019 at 23:12, Mark Abramowitz via EV wrote: > Your statement about Toyota not making money on the Mirai is pretty silly. It wasn't the poster's statement, it was from an article he quoted. And I don't understand why you would call it "silly." > > Who knows if they will make money

Re: [EVDL] Rear Diff IRS | Direct Drive

On 5 Dec 2019 at 1:43, Cor van de Water via EV wrote: > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... This is why you shouldn't send html-only email to the list. The listserver HATES that, and it will make your message sit in the corner wearing a dunce cap. :-\ Here's the message: Another datapoint:

Re: [EVDL] California’s Clean Vehicle Rebate Program

I'm hesitant to say anything in this thread because many years ago the EVDL voted to downplay hydrogen, despite the fact that it's mentioned in our original charter. Also, a lot of what I say won't register for the True Believers. They'll dismiss it out of hand. Nobody can shake their

Re: [EVDL] L3 EVSE ICEing worst-case> literally(2avoid hail)

I'm looking forward to the day when there are enough EVs on the road that their drivers could -- IF they were as infantile as the tantrum-throwing ICEV drivers who deliberately "ICE" charging points -- "E" gas pumps. David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = = = = = = = = = = = =

Re: [EVDL] Rear Diff IRS | Direct Drive

On 26 Nov 2019 at 13:33, Alan Brinkman via EV wrote: > A 28.7" tall tire has a circumference of PI * 28.7 or 3.17*28.7 The value of Pi has changed? Yikes! Good thing I put #define PI 3.14159 in stdio.h. :-) "The primary purpose of the DATA statement is to give names to constants. Instead

Re: [EVDL] Rear Diff IRS | Direct Drive

Hi Forrest, and welcome to the EVDL! At 80mph, a wheel of 28.7" diameter will be turning at about 940rpm, not 3000rpm. ((5280*12)/(28.7*3.14))*(8/6) With a 3.27 differential ratio, your motor will be turning at 3070rpm. If you think about typical tachometer readings in an ICEV, this is about

Re: [EVDL] EVangel-About: ?Do I really want to be a Cyberpunk?

On 24 Nov 2019 at 20:26, Paul Compton via EV wrote: > Do US road rules not have requirements for pedestrian safety? No, and given the current government's direction, I don't see any on the horizon. I'm surprised they haven't yet dissolved NHTSA. We need pedestrian safety regulations pretty

Re: [EVDL] EVangel-About: ?Do I really want to be a Cyberpunk?

On 24 Nov 2019 at 12:37, Lee Hart via EV wrote: > In a way, it might be a missed opportunity. The automaker pickups have > also strayed away from the traditional "work truck" pickup, in favor of > luxury 4-passenger car-like vehicles that happen to have a small bed in > back. Most of them

Re: [EVDL] EVangel-About: ?Do I really want to be a Cyberpunk?

On 24 Nov 2019 at 7:25, EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: > Also, I suspect that the typical truck buyer probably > won't want something that looks more like the traditional pickup, which as you > say, hasn't really changed much in 70+ years. s/won't/will/g Sorry. David Roden - Ak

Re: [EVDL] EVangel-About: ?Do I really want to be a Cyberpunk?

Obviously I don't know anything about Tesla's reasons for the odd appearance and design of their pickup truck. However, despite the power tool receptacle in the bed, I don't think it's really aimed at the American work- truck buyer, or even the type who embrace the huge, burly, tall semi-luxury

Re: [EVDL] koch-koolaid= bs: ... revolution may take a lot longer than expected

On 21 Nov 2019 at 8:09, Bill Dube via EV wrote: > More to the point, lead-acid batteries are not recycled at "nearly 100%" as > claimed. If you look at the numbers provided by the lead industry itself, at > _least_ 30% of them escape the recycling stream No worries. Ignoring corrections and

Re: [EVDL] koch-koolaid= bs: ... revolution may take a lot longer than expected

On 20 Nov 2019 at 3:39, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: > I did a little searching and the *current* average for a complete > pack is about $200 per kWh. For another data point, it's 8000 Euros (about US$8800) to buy the factory 52kWh battery for a 2020 Renault Zoe (AFAIK still Europe's

Re: [EVDL] MIT: Why the electric-car revolution may take a lot longer than expected

This report ignores the fact that EVs are mechanically much simpler than ICEVs. A motor, controller, and single-speed transaxle should cost less than an ICE, ECU, and automatic transaxle, once the development costs are amortized. Also, with battery leasing, it's also possible to shift the

Re: [EVDL] Sunday, Sunday, Sunday> 2020 Mach-E EV reservations for 2021 deliveries

On 16 Nov 2019 at 15:13, Mark Abramowitz via EV wrote: > I think that this is an interesting theory. It's hardly a theory; it's pretty common knowledge that the automakers deliberately manufactured demand for SUVs through heavy and aggressive advertising. There are many sources. A good one

Re: [EVDL] Sunday, Sunday, Sunday> 2020 Mach-E EV reservations for 2021 deliveries

On 16 Nov 2019 at 13:16, Mark Abramowitz via EV wrote: > ItTMs not the automakers that are single-minded, itTMs the customers that > are demanding these vehicles. Those are the ones that are selling. The automakers deliberately manufactured that demand with advertising. They did it because

Re: [EVDL] Sunday, Sunday, Sunday> 2020 Mach-E EV reservations for 2021 deliveries

I know they make more profit with vehicles like this, but I sure wish the automakers weren't so single-minded about what they build. So many SUVs and crossovers! I'm sure they're fine for some folks, but for me, ugh. Even as EVs, they're just too clumsy and awkward, kind of like a gangling

Re: [EVDL] watts per mile ev motorcycle vs prius

On 14 Nov 2019 at 5:50, paul dove via EV wrote: > Those are all hybrids you would need to compare them to a hybrid > motorcycle No, they're not all hybrds. The Honda Civic VX (52mpg), Honda Civic CRX HF (62mpg), and Chevrolet Sprint (53mpg) are all conventional ICEVs. The Sprint even

Re: [EVDL] watts per mile ev motorcycle vs prius

On 13 Nov 2019 at 6:06, paul dove via EV wrote: > Harley-Davidson's fleet average fuel economy for 2018 was 44 mpg. > > What car gets 44 mpg? 2016 Toyota Prius, 54mpg city. 2015 Toyota Prius C (aka Yaris Hybrid), 53mpg city. 2000 Honda Insight, 61mpg highway. 1995 Honda Civic VX, 52mpg

Re: [EVDL] watts per mile ev motorcycle vs prius

On 12 Nov 2019 at 21:45, evtlfp20 via EV wrote: > My scooter uses 40 amps at 72 volt s and 40 mph, so whats my watts > per mile ? I don't know, how many horsepower per mile does your gas car use? :-\ Obviously horsepower per mile is a nonsense unit, and so is watts per mile (watts and

Re: [EVDL] Ground Fault

On 11 Nov 2019 at 10:07, John Lussmyer via EV wrote: > So, it sounds like I need to find a real DC-DC converter that can take 330vdc > and make 13.8vdc. Could you use (say) three 120v converters, each connected to part of the battery, with their outputs in parallel through large diodes? David

Re: [EVDL] a-pillar blind spot (OT)

On 7 Nov 2019 at 15:33, Lee Hart via EV wrote: > Oh no! Let's not give telemarketers yet another way to shove ads in our > faces! These days it appears that most production EVs are emulating Tesla and slapping tablet-like touch screens in the middle of their instrument panels. They're all

Re: [EVDL] a-pillar blind spot (OT)

On 7 Nov 2019 at 11:17, Lee Hart via EV wrote: > Side question: Why has it become fashionable to reduce the size of > windows as much as possible (creating huge pillars and reducing > visibility), and then painting an inch or more of the edges black? I may be remembering incorrectly, but I

Re: [EVDL] EVLN status: a running-start to micro-moment satiate

Don't believe any of that stuff. The truth is that Bruce has a shiny new Peabody Wayback Machine (tm) that not only goes forward into the past, it goes backward into the future. It's powered by a 24MWh lithium battery and a 12-phase induction drive. It has level 9 AC charging, and for 10

Re: [EVDL] video: 1500 mile SUPER-battery: BUSTED!

On 27 Oct 2019 at 20:58, Paul Wujek via EV wrote: > Thorough take-down of that article printed in British newspapers last week: That was pretty entertaining and detailed, but you don't need to sit through 27 minutes and 38 seconds of demonstrations of how al-air batteries work to debunk this

[EVDL] Cheap project EVs for sale

I need to clear out some EV parts and projects, preferably before winter sets in. I'll have a list of the parts for sale soon. For now, I'm offering the EVs at what I think are low prices in hopes of moving them out quickly, and finding them loving forever homes with EV hobbyists. I

Re: [EVDL] Veltop kit used to make solar vehicle

Here are the images: https://i.postimg.cc/yx2Mhk4f/veltop-sansimage.png https://i.postimg.cc/cHH2VQd9/veltop-trike.jpg No login required. No Javascript required either. David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = EVDL

Re: [EVDL] Veltop kit used to make solar vehicle

On 17 Oct 2019 at 16:49, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: > Sending a picture to this list is hard if not impossible. Nah, it's a piece of cake. Use one of these: https://postimages.org/ http://www.uploadhouse.com/ Neither site even requires registration. It's easy, just point and click with

Re: [EVDL] Pune.in EVSE-infrastructure-weakness> e-Bus genset-recharging (v)

On 16 Oct 2019 at 13:05, Lee Hart via EV wrote: > Consider hybrid cars; they generally get better fuel economy. I'm not an engineer, so I'm treading hazardous waters here, but I'm not so sure I agree. As for pseudo-hybrid vehicles (fuel only, not true plug hybrids), as I understand it,

Re: [EVDL] Fw: [HDTV-in-SFbay] Yahoo Group Change

On 16 Oct 2019 at 15:31, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: > Seems that Yahoo no longer wants us. Lawrence Rhodes I don't entirely understand who "us" is. The EVDL has never been hosted by Yahoo Groups. At one time we had an unofficial archive there, but that pseudo-group vanished several years

Re: [EVDL] leaf spy free version, old android phone

On 12 Oct 2019 at 13:16, evtlfp20 via EV wrote: > I have an old white android phone with 4.20, and want to know if it > will work with that phone ? This page http://www.electricvehiclewiki.com/wiki/leaf-spy-pro/ says that Leaf Spy works on a Motorola Droid with Android 2.2, so maybe it will

Re: [EVDL] Wash-Post headline jabs @EVs during CA-utility-power-cuts

On 9 Oct 2019 at 23:18, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > The Washington Post SAN FRANCISCO ... Tesla ... issued a > preemptive advisory overnight ... telling owners to charge up to 100% ahead > of the planned outages ... on- or offline ... oeSupercharger stations ... > displayed on in-car maps ... (%

Re: [EVDL] EV charging to go credit card. My picture in the article.

On 8 Oct 2019 at 17:22, Willie via EV wrote: > SFChronicle attempts to force ad viewing. Screw 'em. Strange, I saw no ads at all here. I did get a pop-over exhorting me to subscribe to the paper after looking at the article, but at that point I was done, so I just closed the browser window.

Re: [EVDL] Bosch pyroswitches/pyrofuses> 1 bash& EV's wiring is shot

Am I missing something? Isn't this what main contactors are for? Besides, I don't think its a new idea. This document https://www-esv.nhtsa.dot.gov/proceedings/24/files/24ESV-000163.PDF seems to date from a couple of years ago (I could be wrong about that, however). David Roden - Akron,

Re: [EVDL] Alberta.ca's EV sales= low-priority> left further in the dust from petro.ca pride

On 16 Sep 2019 at 4:03, Josh L via EV wrote: > the BEVs they sell are questionable on cooling (Leaf) Is this still a problem with the Leaf? Sheesh, it's been at least 6 years, probably more, since the first battery degradation cases surfaced. One would think they would have fixed it by now.

Re: [EVDL] EV undercoating options?

On 12 Sep 2019 at 13:14, Michael Mike via EV wrote: > It is actually more than oil. There are really good rust inhibitors in the > chemistry. The fluid goes on the consistency of gear oil and congeals in 24 > hours. It is always ~wetTM. Thanks. That sounds more like the stuff I had applied to a

Re: [EVDL] 199x production: Ford Ranger EV

On 11 Sep 2019 at 20:08, paul dove via EV wrote: > I read an article a while back that Toyota and Tesla were going to team up and > resurrect the RAV4 EV with Tesla batteries. Maybe you could find some info on > that. Is this a new effort, or are you thinking of the brief partnership between

Re: [EVDL] EV undercoating options?

On 12 Sep 2019 at 8:41, Michael Mike via EV wrote: > I use fluid film on all my vehicles. Is that a 20 dollar name for oil spray, by any chance? I used to have my ICEVs oil sprayed 40+ years ago. I wouldn't do it today, nor would I do it to an EV. Old cars tended to have more steel and less

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: GM's 1st e-truck only sold for 1yr> like an aircraft taking off r:39mi@60mph

On 9 Sep 2019 at 12:39, EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: > One thing more: the law didn't just change. The automakers, GM included, > lobbied to kill California's Braude Initiative. PS: They also sued California and eventually settled out of court. The Bush administration's j

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: GM's 1st e-truck only sold for 1yr> like an aircraft taking off r:39mi@60mph

On 9 Sep 2019 at 7:34, paul dove via EV wrote: > Yes, itTMs was great but only because the government forced them and they > quit as soon as the law changed Please show me evidence that "The Government" (always the mean old bad guys, eh?) forced GM to build the E10 pickup. By the way, it was

Re: [EVDL] OT: NTSB report on Tesla Autopilot

On 9 Sep 2019 at 7:12, paul dove via EV wrote: > This guy sounds like a professional article writer. You say that like it's a bad thing. It's not. The word you're looking for is "journalist," or maybe "reporter." But it's true that good ones are scarce these days. We see that a lot in

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Mazda Does Not Believe In Large-kWh EV packs (v)

On 8 Sep 2019 at 14:21, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > Sound plays a part. Mazda is still deciding on the final audio mix, but the > TPV serves up a subtle soundtrack (partly amplified electric-motor noises, > partly generated) that grows stronger and more urgent as the torque increases. I have a

[EVDL] Used conversion EVs

Does anyone have a sense for the condition of the market for used conversion EVs? I have a couple that I need to move out of here soon. They've been sitting for a while. Should I just call up a local charity and donate them? Or are there folks out there still interested in EV DIY? What

Re: [EVDL] E-Motorcycle battery source

On 5 Sep 2019 at 23:10, Alan Arrison via EV wrote: > 20 to 40 kWh! Just where are you going to put that many batteries? Yikes. I assumed he meant amp-hours. If it's really kWh, it's a car-size battery. That's going to be quite a challenge to haul around on a bike. David Roden - Akron, Ohio,

Re: [EVDL] E-Motorcycle battery source

On 5 Sep 2019 at 21:41, Matthew Pitts via EV wrote: > I'm looking for a source for 48v batteries for an E-Motorcycle project I'm > going to work on this winter. I've bought 3 LiFePO4 batteries from Ping Battery. They weren't cheap, but I've been pretty satisfied with all of the batteries so

Re: [EVDL] Tesla cameras record stone-faced rage> SUV-iced 2SuperEVSE spots (v)

I didn't see much going on that I'd consider especially threatening. Howver, it's hard to tell what really happened, because there's no audio. David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = EVDL Information: http://www.evdl.org/help/

Re: [EVDL] Apartment-Dwellers Can Own & Charge An EV (v)

On 2 Sep 2019 at 13:34, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > Popular spots such as local malls and grocery stores are almost always > guaranteed to feature some form of EV charging for the general public. Where IS this guy? "Almost guaranteed"? Really? Something tells me he doesn't live here in the

Re: [EVDL] 1978 City Car project (near Baltimore)

On 2 Sep 2019 at 9:42, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: > Is there any inerest in restoring an old 1978 Seabring Vanguard City Car > (cheese wedge).? Ive had it since 1970's. Not sure what I want to do > with it. Not from me; I've been there and did that once already. ;-) However, there seems

Re: [EVDL] Subject: Differential issue

On 30 Aug 2019 at 9:39, Tom Hudson via EV wrote: > looking at how all the front-end parts fit together I realized just > how tailor-made the Solectria gearbox is for the Metro, and I doubt I > could fit it into the Insight.  That gearbox is a thing of beauty. Isn't it? That was part of the

Re: [EVDL] pEV4sale: $3k Elf enclosed_e-trike SF-CA> needs battery

On 29 Aug 2019 at 10:16, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > After looking at > https://organictransit.com/product/elf-solo/ > a new Elf is $9k & has > a 16Ah (higher capacity) li-ion pack > & a 100W (higher Wattage) PV > > This tells me the ad is selling an older-year Elf, with a worn out lower >

Re: [EVDL] Gone in 30-Seconds> Tesla-S hacked, then stolen

On 28 Aug 2019 at 16:10, paul dove via EV wrote: > Still looks faked to me! It was found wrecked I've seen some obviously staged "security camera" clips, and this one doesn't necessarily look that way to me, but I'm certainly not an expert. I have to say, though, that going to that much

Re: [EVDL] Subject: Differential issue

On 28 Aug 2019 at 15:00, Tom Hudson via EV wrote: > I'm using these from Electric Car Parts Company: > > https://www.electriccarpartscompany.com/Fortune-100Ah-Aluminum-Encased- > Battery Thanks! That seems to be a pretty good price. If the specs are honest, they should give about twice the

Re: [EVDL] Gone in 30-Seconds> Tesla-S hacked, then stolen

On 28 Aug 2019 at 11:30, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > In a daring attempt That was no attempt. That was a success. Send that writer back to high school English class. I used to chuckle when I read EVLN items about thieves who broke into (conversion) EVs and then couldn't figure out how to drive

Re: [EVDL] Subject: Differential issue

On 27 Aug 2019 at 15:49, Tom Hudson via EV wrote: > it's fixed!  Great news! Glad to hear you're back in business. > With its new lithium-ion battery pack, it's got exceptional range and a > new lease on life. Do you mind if I ask what kind of lithium battery you used? Just curious.

Re: [EVDL] Dieselgate part two.

On 23 Aug 2019 at 18:05, paul dove via EV wrote: > 10 And 32 Celsius 50 and 90 Fahrenheit Five C is 41 deg F. They were disabling emissions control below that temperature? Why, for goodness sake? I'm not sure that Volkswagen can redeem themselves now. Can Germany revoke their corporate

Re: [EVDL] Crazy gocarts in San francisco's Farmer's Market parking lot.

On 23 Aug 2019 at 17:12, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > Electric shopping carts ... Electric bar stools ... And Otmar Ebenhoech's electric sofa! http://www.evalbum.com/104.html David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = EVDL

Re: [EVDL] Dieselgate part two.

On 23 Aug 2019 at 16:27, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: > VW is at it again cheating on emissions via software again.  This time it is > temperature and again they got caught.  Sorry, I didn't watch the video clip; I prefer to read about such things. Is it this?

Re: [EVDL] Driving A Tesla Results In More CO2 Than A Mercedes Diesel Car, Study Finds

On 23 Aug 2019 at 11:21, paul dove via EV wrote: > 3.8 pounds of co2 is produced to make 3500 watts of electricity I take it the author means watt-HOURS, because saying "3500 watts of electricity" is like saying "12 horsepower of gasoline." > > So an electric car will go 25 miles on

Re: [EVDL] Stella Era

On 22 Aug 2019 at 13:12, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: > The surface area for 3 kw of Sunpower Maxeon cells would be 8 feet by 23 > feet. You're talking about a vehicle 15% longer and 31% wider than the largest, most bloated Chevrolet Silverado pickup. That's a 37% larger footprint. Where

Re: [EVDL] Leaf 2use in VT: buying a used EV ...

On 22 Aug 2019 at 11:56, Glenn Van Vlemen via EV wrote: > I have been looking at 2nd hand leafs but find the battery degradation > severely limits the use of these vehicles. If it's in your budget, you might look for a 2016-2018 Renault Zoe ZE40. The battery is different from the Leaf's

Re: [EVDL] Considering buying a used EV. Suggestions requested.

Oops, sorry, I suggested a new EV and not a used one. Ignore me. :-( David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = EVDL Information: http://www.evdl.org/help/ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Note: mail sent

Re: [EVDL] 3whl diy EV.uk> plastic-shelled, balsa-wood, duct-tape -signed

Thanks for the detailed Lynch history. It sounds like the business world has been a disappointment for Mr Lynch, not that that's especially uncommon for inventors and EV people. :-( Sorry to hear of your bike mishap, and I hope you're feeling better now. David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL

Re: [EVDL] Considering buying a used EV. Suggestions requested.

On 21 Aug 2019 at 12:42, Chris Richard via EV wrote: > I apologize and request a pointer to > where I might find the earlier comments. No apology needed. The EVDL archive is here: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html > It would be nice to be able to carry lumber home or to have less fear >

Re: [EVDL] 3whl diy EV.uk> plastic-shelled, balsa-wood, duct-tape -signed

On 21 Aug 2019 at 11:30, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: > Are those bread and groceries in the back? Looks like it. David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = EVDL Information: http://www.evdl.org/help/ = = = = = = = = = = = = = =

Re: [EVDL] 3whl diy EV.uk> plastic-shelled, balsa-wood, duct-tape -signed

On 21 Aug 2019 at 10:15, Paul Compton via EV wrote: > There are quite a few pictures of this machine on > http://bikeweb.com/image/tid/57 Ah, so that's it! Well done. I remember reading of Cedric Lynch's motor and vehicle many years ago and am pleased to hear that he and it are still active.

Re: [EVDL] 3whl diy EV.uk> plastic-shelled, balsa-wood, duct-tape -signed

On 20 Aug 2019 at 18:37, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > Made out of balsa wood and duct tape, officers described the electric > vehicle as the most ~unusualTM theyTMve had to stop in 26 years. I've heard police officers described as being made from some rude and unpleasant substances, but this is

Re: [EVDL] sources for 12vdc to 24vdc converters

On 20 Aug 2019 at 16:02, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: > So 2.5 kW for a well pump seems large?, But then, I don't have one. Most well pumps suck down enormous starting power. I have a 1/2hp shallow well pump, and my 2.5kw Statpower Prowatt struggles mightily when that pump starts. The idea

Re: [EVDL] oil shorting/attacking Tesla, Rickard’s evtv: ... Tesla conspiracy

On 20 Aug 2019 at 9:26, Mark Abramowitz via EV wrote: > he does point out an issue that I think helps make the company ripe for > short sellers - Musk overpromises, and then doesn't deliver what he > promises. (Yes, what he has delivered has been phenomenal, but that's > neither here nor there.)

Re: [EVDL] Public station, private ownership?

On 19 Aug 2019 at 23:12, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: > Third, if someone goes past about 80% charge, the trickle charge should > start and you get substantially less revenue. Really? I read recently that at many commercial EVSEs in France, billing is strictly by time connected, not energy

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: CA AB-1424> Pay public EVSE w/ a debit or credit card

On 18 Aug 2019 at 15:11, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > a bill currently pending in the California Legislature sponsored by > companies that operate proprietary charging networks would undo the > regulations ...forcing drivers who donTMt have contactless cards to call > 1-800 numbers if they want to

Re: [EVDL] Public station, private ownership?

On 18 Aug 2019 at 15:38, Seth Rothenberg via EV wrote: > (Probably none right near my house, as there are > charging locations in progress on the Turnpike and the Parkway. > (The Vince Lombardi Service Area is in place but not yet > interfacing with evGo membership database :-) Near what house

Re: [EVDL] The Tesla conspiracy

On 18 Aug 2019 at 9:45, Michael Ross via EV wrote: > Diversification of politics. No question about acting up on Chinese > internet, can't do it. Yeah, Musk will have to fall in line, and keep his mouth and typing under control, if he wants to fill up China with Teslas. So will GM, Ford, and

Re: [EVDL] The Tesla conspiracy

On 18 Aug 2019 at 0:23, John Blair via EV wrote: > "Within five months, Tesla should be producing > and selling the Tesla Model 3 from this > factory. (from the article). Thanks! That's a smart move for Tesla. David Roden -

Re: [EVDL] The Tesla conspiracy

On 17 Aug 2019 at 16:24, Lee Hart via EV wrote: > look at how fast EVs disappeared when the political winds changed [in > the early 2000s] ... The future for EVs in the USA is *far* from > certain! And in the early 1980s, too. Ronald Reagan moved into the White House and one of his first

Re: [EVDL] The Tesla conspiracy

Anyone who says "there's no stopping it" or "there's no going back" hasn't been paying attention to politics and business. :-( Of course Tesla makes good cars; they got to start with a blank slate, not a century of hidebound tradition. Is there any other production EV that's 100% new?

Re: [EVDL] Solar car

On 14 Aug 2019 at 13:14, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: > Who needs air bags when you have 5 point seat belts. Anybody who wants to sell cars in the US. A racing harness is probably safer than airbags, but NHTSA requires passive restraints. AFAIK they're not yet required in the EU, but most

Re: [EVDL] $3K-Tesla-Conquest incentive Only4 Tesla owners> (LOL-marketing)

On 13 Aug 2019 at 9:25, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > It is also quite noteworthy to see Jaguar specifically targeting > existing Tesla owners, and not other EV enthusiasts who drive electric > cars like the Chevy Bolt and the Nissan Leaf. It seems to me that Leaf and Bolt owners ("Leaf and Bolt"

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Farm EVs & PV-powered auton e-bot planter, weeder swarms> ag e-transition= e-revolution

On 4 Aug 2019 at 11:00, Jan Steinman via EV wrote: > pulling a six-bottom plough > through clay soil for twelve hours? Ain't gonna happen in MY lifetime! Maybe, but I didn't think that we'd see mass production EVs with 300 mile range by now, and here we are. So I wouldn't bet my retirement

Re: [EVDL] JDPower paid to poo-poo EV-sales> more paid4-koch-kool-aid

This survey result shouldn't surprise anybody. Right now the US is awash in petroleum. To be blunt, at the moment EVs don't solve any problems or provide any advantages that the average person in the US cares much about. David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = = = = = = = =

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