Re: [Evangelism] Upcoming Plone events
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[Evangelism] Fwd: [Conferences] Python conference attendee statistics
I thought this email thread on the Python Conferences mailing list [1] might be relevant to recent efforts by Matt Hamilton who is organizing the PloneConf2010 to attract non-developers to the conferences. Maybe we could join forces with the Python folks to share marketing material and talking points about the use of Python at schools, business, government, etc. Nate [1] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/conferences -- Forwarded message -- From: M.-A. Lemburg Date: Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 1:25 PM Subject: Re: [Conferences] Python conference attendee statistics To: Facundo Batista Cc: Python Conferences Facundo Batista wrote: > On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 5:36 AM, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: > >> Do you think we'd need an English brochure would work well with the >> attendees ? >> >> If we get enough interest from Spanish and French speaking countries, >> we may be able to run additional print jobs with a translated versions. > > We're producing all printing material in Spanish. > > Which kind of brochures are you aiming to create? It's going to be a general purpose high quality Python image brochures to promote Python. One of the ideas behind this is to reach out to people who are not directly involved in programming, e.g. higher level management, school administrations, governments, customers who you need to convince of the usefulness of Python, students/parents you want to convince that learning Python is a good thing, etc. etc. We also plan to extract information from the brochure to produce flyers. -- Marc-Andre Lemburg eGenix.com Professional Python Services directly from the Source (#1, Jul 13 2010) >>> Python/Zope Consulting and Support ...http://www.egenix.com/ >>> mxODBC.Zope.Database.Adapter ... http://zope.egenix.com/ >>> mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ...http://python.egenix.com/ 2010-07-19: EuroPython 2010, Birmingham, UK 5 days to go ::: Try our new mxODBC.Connect Python Database Interface for free ! eGenix.com Software, Skills and Services GmbH Pastor-Loeh-Str.48 D-40764 Langenfeld, Germany. CEO Dipl.-Math. Marc-Andre Lemburg Registered at Amtsgericht Duesseldorf: HRB 46611 http://www.egenix.com/company/contact/ ___ Conferences mailing list: conferen...@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/conferences This is an open list with open archives; sensitive or confidential information should not be discussed here. -- -- Nate Aune - na...@jazkarta.com http://www.jazkarta.com http://card.ly/natea http://tungle.me/natea +1 (617) 517-4953 ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] The State of Drupal
>> What would it take to bundle up some Plone add-ons and release it as a >> PloneSocial distro? What add-ons should be included? Would you want to >> lead the charge to put something together? > > That could be as simple as creating a buildout extension configuration. > > In a sense, we now have included with our installers a "development" bundle > aimed at add-on/theme level developers: > > http://dev.plone.org/plone/browser/Installers/UnifiedInstaller/trunk/base_skeleton/develop.cfg > > We could include a subdirectory of such extensions with the installers, but > they would have to be generally agreed on and include absolutely no unstable > or unreleased components. Of course, these add-ons would be carefully selected and vetted before they would be approved to be included in the distribution. Steve - what would it take to identify 3-4 extension profiles, and include them in the next release? PloneSocial - adds social networking functionality to your Plone site (which add-ons are most mature?) PloneMobile - adds mobile optimized features to your Plone site (go.mobile) PloneMultiMedia - adds multimedia functionality to your Plone site (collective.flowplayer) PloneMultilingual - adds multilingual funcitonality (LinguaPlone) I think this would go a long way to making it easier for newcomers to Plone to evaluate the rich ecosystem of add-ons for Plone without having to troll through the 3,000 add-ons at plone.org/download trying to find the best ones. I could also see a lot of value of making bundles targeting particular vertical markets: PloneEdu - faculty/staff directory, bibliography, subsites PloneGov - forms (PloneFormGen) PloneNpo - donation forms, volunteer signup (PloneFormGen) Imagine if you are from a university, government agency or non-profit, and the first time you download Plone, there is an installer profile made just for you, that guides you through the benefits of why Plone is right for your particular industry and shows you the value-add of these additional modules. I think this could be incredible beneficial in helping Plone to get greater adoption in these markets. Nate -- // Learn the easiest way to theme Plone! // http://plone-theming-with-deliverance-natesig.eventbrite.com/ Nate Aune - na...@jazkarta.com http://www.jazkarta.com http://card.ly/natea http://tungle.me/natea +1 (617) 517-4953 ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] The State of Drupal
On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 4:54 AM, David Bain wrote: > The first two distributions that make sense to me are "almost distributions > already", the pieces are there: > Plone Mobile (built around the go mobile platform) Oh right, do you mean Mikko's gomobile platform? http://pypi.python.org/pypi/gomobile.mobile/ http://www.slideshare.net/miohtama/plone-go-mobile > Plone Social. (putting all the current pieces together, a site that > simplifies the management of incoming and outgoing tweets, facebook, buzz > and youtube video) What would it take to bundle up some Plone add-ons and release it as a PloneSocial distro? What add-ons should be included? Would you want to lead the charge to put something together? Nate > On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 11:51 PM, T. Kim Nguyen wrote: >> >> Re: PloneEdu distribution, that is something we (PloneEdu steering team, >> see http://weblion.psu.edu/ploneedu/community/steering-team) are hoping to >> do. Our first step is to gather up and evaluate products that are going to >> be of interest to education organizations, and eventually put them together >> in a single "you may find these products interesting" buildout. I have only >> recently joined this PloneEdu effort, so cannot speak to what may or may not >> have been promised in the past. >> >> Kim >> >> On May 16, 2010, at 11:43 PM, Nate Aune wrote: >> >> > Re-hashing this previous discussion because I think it's still very >> > relevant... >> > >> >> Then he goes a lot into how there can only be one CMS left standing >> >> (very >> >> highlander) and how that can be Drupal etc etc. I can start to see >> >> where >> >> these drupal people get their zeal from now :) >> > >> > yes, in his DrupalCon keynote this year, he said that Drupal/Joomla >> > and Wordpress would be the only OSS CMS to survive and all others >> > would fade away. >> > >> >> Thankfully Plone's UI seems to be in great hands. The simplification of >> >> the >> >> framework side of plone has had some great noises made but IMHO we seem >> >> to >> >> have a great process for adding features and frameworks but it's >> >> unclear how >> >> that process works for simplifying the framework. >> > >> > Yeah, the framework, for all its benefits, has turned away a lot of >> > would-be Plone people because it is too complex and unapproachable. >> > We need to focus on making it more approachable if we want to continue >> > to attract new people to Plone. >> > >> >> We have awesome demos of deco and its easy for all of us further down >> >> the >> >> chain to see where we are headed UI wise, >> > >> > I found it very interesting that Dries was in Limi's talk about Deco >> > at CMSExpo. I think Dries realizes that Drupal could learn a few >> > things about Plone's simple and unified UI. >> > >> > This is also a very telling post comparing Django to Drupal. >> > http://birdhouse.org/blog/2009/11/11/drupal-or-django/ >> > >> > The 87 comments are also very telling. >> > >> >> but what would be the equivalent >> >> of a vision outlining a simplified framework for developing with plone? >> >> Limi highlighting 25% less code in plone 4 is pretty cool. Wouldn't it >> >> be >> >> great to see 50% less concepts needed to learn plone in plone5? >> > >> > Yes, I agree. >> > >> >>> 7) They are still, out-of-the-box, a great blogging platform, and if >> >>> you're using Drupal as a "news to the home page site" with a few >> >>> static >> >>> pages, it's easy and fast to configure. >> >> >> >> Dries talks about Distributions which isn't something we've done much >> >> with >> >> in Plone. Drupal seems to be advertising its out of the box intranet >> >> distribution on drupal.com and Plone doesn't have one and yet Plone is >> >> a >> >> better match. >> >> >> >> The points Dries makes about distributions are also really interesting. >> >> >> >> "There is a risk involved with distributions as well, which means that >> >> we >> >> need to approach them the right way. The risk is fragmentation, and it >> >> is >> >> why I feel it is important that distributions build on
Re: [Evangelism] Value proposition and positioning
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 9:02 AM, Dylan Jay wrote: > On 29/12/2009, at 9:32 PM, Karl Horak wrote: > >> >> You might want to take a look at the >> http://www.coactivate.org/projects/plone-marketing/summary Plone Marketing >> Project at Co-Activate. > > Not sure that wiki reflects the current state of things. > There is a closed door marketing committee consisting of Mark and Julian I > think that was announced at the Plone conference. I'm not sure how often > they meet or where the decisions from that goes. There is the marketing plan > which has been posted [1] > > There was a meeting about marketing issues at the Plone conference this year > and my take on that was that there was a lot of hope from everyone that this > new committee would provide leadership on how to market plone, positioning > and help organise us volunteers into doing something effective. > So you I guess you should talk to Mark Corum. > > [1] > http://plone.org/foundation/marketing-workspace/plone-marketing-plan-2009 When one tries to access this document, it says "Insufficient privileges". Is the marketing plan posted to another public URL? Nate >> ejah wrote: >>> >>> I got the strong impression from going through this list and other docs >>> that we are having trouble with our positioning and value proposition. >>> Maybe I missed some relevant documents, can then someone please provide >>> me >>> the pointer? >>> >>> I would like to help develop both for us. Would the forum be the place >>> for >>> that? >>> Cheers, >>> Ernst >>> >> >> -- >> View this message in context: >> http://n2.nabble.com/Value-proposition-and-positioning-tp4225263p4227203.html >> Sent from the Evangelism mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> >> ___ >> Evangelism mailing list >> Evangelism@lists.plone.org >> http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism > > > ___ > Evangelism mailing list > Evangelism@lists.plone.org > http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism > -- // Learn the easiest way to theme Plone! // http://plone-theming-with-deliverance-natesig.eventbrite.com/ Nate Aune - na...@jazkarta.com http://www.jazkarta.com http://card.ly/natea http://tungle.me/natea +1 (617) 517-4953 ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] The State of Drupal
Re-hashing this previous discussion because I think it's still very relevant... > Then he goes a lot into how there can only be one CMS left standing (very > highlander) and how that can be Drupal etc etc. I can start to see where > these drupal people get their zeal from now :) yes, in his DrupalCon keynote this year, he said that Drupal/Joomla and Wordpress would be the only OSS CMS to survive and all others would fade away. > Thankfully Plone's UI seems to be in great hands. The simplification of the > framework side of plone has had some great noises made but IMHO we seem to > have a great process for adding features and frameworks but it's unclear how > that process works for simplifying the framework. Yeah, the framework, for all its benefits, has turned away a lot of would-be Plone people because it is too complex and unapproachable. We need to focus on making it more approachable if we want to continue to attract new people to Plone. > We have awesome demos of deco and its easy for all of us further down the > chain to see where we are headed UI wise, I found it very interesting that Dries was in Limi's talk about Deco at CMSExpo. I think Dries realizes that Drupal could learn a few things about Plone's simple and unified UI. This is also a very telling post comparing Django to Drupal. http://birdhouse.org/blog/2009/11/11/drupal-or-django/ The 87 comments are also very telling. > but what would be the equivalent > of a vision outlining a simplified framework for developing with plone? > Limi highlighting 25% less code in plone 4 is pretty cool. Wouldn't it be > great to see 50% less concepts needed to learn plone in plone5? Yes, I agree. >> 7) They are still, out-of-the-box, a great blogging platform, and if >> you're using Drupal as a "news to the home page site" with a few static >> pages, it's easy and fast to configure. > > Dries talks about Distributions which isn't something we've done much with > in Plone. Drupal seems to be advertising its out of the box intranet > distribution on drupal.com and Plone doesn't have one and yet Plone is a > better match. > > The points Dries makes about distributions are also really interesting. > > "There is a risk involved with distributions as well, which means that we > need to approach them the right way. The risk is fragmentation, and it is > why I feel it is important that distributions build on the usability > patterns set by Drupal core. " I think distributions is something we should seriously look at within the Plone community. See this blog post I wrote back in 2007 about creating Plone distros. http://piktipi.wordpress.com/2007/06/03/natea-creating-easy-to-install-plone-distributions-with-buildout/ We currently have Plinkit (for libraries) and Plumi (for video portal). Where is the PloneEdu distribution, or the PloneGov distribution. Where is the distro for newspapers or media organizations? For building a social networking site, Wordpress has BuddyPress (http://buddypress.org) and Drupal has DrupalGardens (http://www.drupalgardens.com/) for building marketing sites, OpenPublish (http://openpublishapp.com/) for publishing industry and OpenPublic, a Drupal distribution for open government. http://www.phase2technology.com/press-release/phase2-technology-announces-openpublic-drupal-distribution-federal-agency-use-satisfy- I think if we were to nurture smaller subsets of communities within the larger Plone community around these distributions, we could start to see more penetration into these markets. The PloneEdu efforts that Mike Halm at PSU is leading is a step in the right direction. Let's hope that this serves as a model for others to follow. http://weblion.psu.edu/ploneedu Nate -- // Learn the easiest way to theme Plone! // http://plone-theming-with-deliverance-natesig.eventbrite.com/ Nate Aune - na...@jazkarta.com http://www.jazkarta.com http://card.ly/natea http://tungle.me/natea +1 (617) 517-4953 ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] Videos about Plone at plone.org
Hey Alex, Wasn't Sean Kelly doing some new videos for Plone 4? Nate 2010/5/10 Israel Saeta Pérez > On 05/11/2010 12:11 AM, Israel Saeta Pérez wrote: > > A friend has already started to take screencasts for the Plone 4 User > > Manual to replace the existing, outdated ones. > > > > Here's the first one: > > > http://dist.plone.org/media/video/plone4-user-manual/cut-copy-paste-rename-delete.swf > > > For best visualization size, use this link instead: > > http://dist.plone.org/media/video/plone4-user-manual/cut-copy-paste-rename-delete.html > > -- israel > > ___ > Evangelism mailing list > Evangelism@lists.plone.org > http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism > -- // Learn the easiest way to theme Plone! // http://plone-theming-with-deliverance-natesig.eventbrite.com/ Nate Aune - na...@jazkarta.com http://www.jazkarta.com http://card.ly/natea http://tungle.me/natea +1 (617) 517-4953 ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
[Evangelism] live video streaming on uStream.tv
hey everyone, as we did in 2008 and 2009, i'd like to set up a uStream.tv video montage of all the various World Plone Day events happening around the world. The channel is: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/world-plone-day and if you go there and request to be a co-host, then I can put your video up on the page. It's really easy to set up a live video stream. All you need is a webcam with Windows or built-in iSight camera on your Mac, and a web browser with Flash support. this howto doc explains how to get it all set up: http://helpcenter.ustream.tv/content/broadcasting-video-and-sound wishing everyone good times tomorrow at World Plone Day! nate -- // Learn the easiest way to theme Plone! // http://plone-theming-with-deliverance-natesig.eventbrite.com/ Nate Aune - na...@jazkarta.com http://www.jazkarta.com http://card.ly/natea http://tungle.me/natea +1 (617) 517-4953 ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] 8 Really Cool Things About Plone 4
For those who are interested, I just uploaded a slidedeck "What's new in Plone 4" that I will present tomorrow at World Plone Day as a 5 min lightning talk. http://www.slideshare.net/Jazkarta/whats-new-in-plone-4 I purposely left it very generic so that others can download it and tailor it to their audience for WPD. I welcome any feedback or ways to improve on it. thanks, Nate On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 5:06 PM, Dylan Jay wrote: > Plone 4- twice as fast, four times as sexy. > Dylan Jay > Technical solution manager > PretaWeb 99552830 > On 15/04/2010, at 1:16 AM, Steve McMahon wrote: > > A few of my favorites: > > Dramatic speed improvements -- see Hanno's charts. Both for page rendering > and initial load. > http://blog.hannosch.eu/2010/01/plone-4-how-much-faster-is-it.html > http://jstahl.org/archives/2010/01/19/plone-4-three-times-faster-than-drupal-joomla-or-wordpress/ > > Python 2.6's improved memory management will decrease overall memory > footprint > > New default visual editor: TinyMCE > > Images and binary blobs automatically stored in file system rather than > ZODB, prevent database bloat. > > New default theme, Sunburst, provides a modern, minimalist, grid-based theme > that's a better starting point for modern themes. > > Support for login by e-mail address > > > > On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 5:13 PM, Roberto Allende wrote: >> >> Hello >> >> Two years and a half ago, Jon Stahl wrote a great post blog named "8 >> Really Cool Things About Plone 3"[1]. There he wrote about new features >> coming with Plone 3. >> >> Considering there are just two weeks for World Plone Day 2010 and Plone 4 >> is going to be the star of the event, i would like to ask you what are the >> features or things you would add in the "8 Really Cool things about Plone 4" >> list. >> >> You answer will help a lot making the great Plone 4 talk, every host >> *must* have :) >> >> Kind Regards >> r. >> >> 1. >> http://jstahl.org/archives/2007/07/16/8-really-cool-things-about-plone-3/ >> >> -- >> http://worldploneday.org >> >> >> ___ > > ___ > Evangelism mailing list > Evangelism@lists.plone.org > http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism > > ___ > Evangelism mailing list > Evangelism@lists.plone.org > http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism > > -- // Learn the easiest way to theme Plone! // http://plone-theming-with-deliverance-natesig.eventbrite.com/ Nate Aune - na...@jazkarta.com http://www.jazkarta.com http://card.ly/natea http://tungle.me/natea +1 (617) 517-4953 ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] CMS exchange on EDUCAUSE Web Administrators list
; >> NyÃlt.org FSFE: EC caves in to proprietary lobbyists on >> >> interoperability<http://nyilt.org/szabvany/FSFE_EC_caves_in_to_proprietary_lobbyists_on_interoperability> >> >> >> -- Forwarded message -- >> From: Steven Clift >> Date: 2010/1/6 >> Subject: [DW] Query - Are any government-focused open source consortiums >> still operational? >> To: newswire >> >> >> I am noticing an uptick in interest again in promoting open source for use >> in government technology. This time more on economic reality grounds than >> philosophical. >> >> Are any government-oriented consortiums operational anywhere in the world? >> This could be either government directly, universities working with >> government, or technology vendors who serve government. >> >> Also, is there a short list government technology vendors who use open >> source tools actively? And finally is there a government website host that >> provides cookie cutter websites built on an open source platform? (The >> kind >> a small town might use for example.) >> >> Reply to me directly - clift (at) e-democracy.org or publicly via the >> Exchange: http://dowire.org/x >> >> Steven Clift >> http://stevenclift.com >> @democracy >> >> - >> Group home for Newswire - Steven Clift's Democracies Online Newswire: >> http://groups.dowire.org/groups/newswire >> >> Replies go to members of Newswire - Steven Clift's Democracies Online >> Newswire with all posts on this topic here: >> http://groups.dowire.org/r/topic/5QvjpRHawd1wVbJXlubiTi >> >> For digest version or to leave Newswire - Steven Clift's Democracies >> Online >> Newswire, >> email newsw...@groups.dowire.org >> with "digest on" or "unsubscribe" in the *subject*. >> >> Newswire - Steven Clift's Democracies Online Newswire is hosted by >> Democracies Online - http://dowire.org. >> -- next part -- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> http://lists.plone.org/pipermail/evangelism/attachments/20100106/ea89bfc0/attachment.html >> >> -- >> >> ___ >> Evangelism mailing list >> Evangelism@lists.plone.org >> http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism >> >> >> End of Evangelism Digest, Vol 30, Issue 1 >> * >> >> ___ >> Evangelism mailing list >> Evangelism@lists.plone.org >> http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism > > > > -- > Alexander Limi · http://limi.net > > ___ > Evangelism mailing list > Evangelism@lists.plone.org > http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism > > -- Nate Aune - na...@jazkarta.com http://www.jazkarta.com http://card.ly/natea http://tungle.me/natea +1 (617) 517-4953 ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] Plone is three kinds of flexibile.
-- Nate Aune - na...@jazkarta.com http://www.jazkarta.com Sent from my iPhone On Dec 21, 2009, at 3:18 PM, Dylan Jay wrote: On 22/12/2009, at 2:33 AM, Matt Hamilton wrote: On 21 Dec 2009, at 00:56, Dylan Jay wrote: Had a customer presentation on Friday and we gave a new pitch on what Plone's key competitive advantages are (in this case for intranets). Thought I'd share it in case it's helpful to others. Following from Matt's recent "flexibility" ads we said Plone's uniqueness is flexibility in three different dimensions making the its flexibility greater than the sum of its parts. Flexibility makes Plone a kind of intranet construction kit where the "elevator goes all the way up". 1. Theme and branding - because it's a "web" content management system that gets used for public sites 2. Workflow, permissions and hierarchy - because of it's "smart file system" data model. Ability to delegate responsibility in different ways. 3. Functionality and plugins. - because of viewlets, portlets, content rules, content types, ZTK etc - allow third party functionality that slips nicely into Plone's UI. Plone's equivalent of the app store - 3000 plugins. Open source is I guess another dimension to the flexibility but we didn't really go into that as much, e.g. no license restrictions to encumber roll out. Dylan, That is a fantastic set of points there. I really like it. Keeps away from any technical / philosophical issues and just focusses on benefits in a way that no other system could really touch. Do you happen to have your slides available from your presentation? Actually since your flexible intranet presentation was so good we just showed some of your slides giving it as an example of the ways in which plone can be adapted to an organisation without limit. In hindsite this approach maybe made plone seem to be needed to be too customized. We should have combined it with demoing some out of the box intranet plugin features like wikis blogs and notifications. (We really need a plone intranet distribution) We also demoed a reusable multiple reviewer workflow where review steps and schema can all be edited togeather using dexterity. I have a demo tomorrow with a large media organization and would love to show them Dexterity. Any chance you can provide a buildout for getting this all set up? -Matt -- Matt Hamilton ma...@netsight.co.uk Netsight Internet Solutions, Ltd. Understand. Develop. Deliver http://www.netsight.co.uk +44 (0)117 9090901 Web Design | Zope/Plone Development & Consulting | Co-location | Hosting ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] Open Source Is Trending Towards Customer Obscurity
On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 4:22 AM, Matt Hamilton wrote: > A really interesting piece on Open Source. From the shows we go to, I can > already start to see this a bit and I think that we might want to bear the > points in the article in mind with future plone.org/.net/etc work. > > http://blogs.gartner.com/brian_prentice/2009/12/09/open-source-is-trending-towards-customer-obscurity/ Matt - thanks for sending this link. I agree that most customers (at least the ones I spoke with at Gilbane), don't really care whether a CMS is open source or not. Really what they care about is the longevity of the software, available support and does it do what I need it to do. The fact that it's open source is just icing on the cake, but they won't make their purchase decision solely based on this. Think about it - if you are not a coder, the argument that you can see and modify the source code doesn't really carry much weight. The idea that a software package is supported by a community of developers around the world also doesn't carry much weight, because if I'm purchasing a CMS, I want one phone number to call when something goes wrong and not have to rely on mailing lists and IRC to get my questions answered. Of course, this is where we direct them to plone.net (which btw is in need of a design overhaul) to see the list of over 300 vendors in 60 countries who provide professional support services for Plone. I'm just trying to frame this in the eyes of the decision-maker, so that when we position Plone in the marketplace we keep these things in mind. Open Source *is* a unique selling point, but not one I would lead with when explaining what Plone is. "What can Plone do for me?" should be the first question we must answer. Then after they've shown interest in what Plone can do for them, we can get into the benefits of open source software. Brian also has a nice blog post about the caveats of COSS - Commerical Open Source Software http://blogs.gartner.com/brian_prentice/2009/11/09/commercial-open-source-software-caveat-emptor/ Nate -- Nate Aune - na...@jazkarta.com http://www.jazkarta.com http://card.ly/natea http://tungle.me/natea +1 (617) 517-4953 ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] cost comparison
i don't know about Reddot or Teamsite, but the Sharepoint calculator can be used to determine the total cost of ownership if you have to buy all the user licenses and software licenses for the other dependent Microsoft products. http://community.bamboosolutions.com/blogs/sharepoint-price-calculator/default.aspx found via Cynapse blog: http://www.cynapse.com/blog/cynin-low-cost-alternative-sharepoint Nate On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 9:05 PM, Virginia Choy wrote: > Hi, > > > > Does anyone have any documentation about total cost of ownership or general > cost comparisons between deploying Plone, Sharepoint, Teamsite,, RedDot or > any other proprietary enterprise solution? > > > > Thanks Virginia > > > > ~ > Virginia Choy > Business Development Manager > PretaWeb - Plone Open Source Enterprise Web Solutions > Suite 2, Level 6, 99 York Street, Sydney 2000 NSW Australia > P: 612-8081-9072 > M: 0423-198-306 > W: www.pretaweb.com > Sales & Support: 02-9955-2830 > > > > ___ > Evangelism mailing list > Evangelism@lists.plone.org > http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism > > -- Nate Aune - na...@jazkarta.com http://www.jazkarta.com http://card.ly/natea http://tungle.me/natea +1 (617) 517-4953 ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] Strategy focus decisions - Plone-th e-product vs. Plone-the-platform – Discovering a blog entr y by Paul Everitt from 2008
> b) CMIS: > http://www.optaros.com/blogs/alfresco-drupal-cmis-integration-available Did you see Sally's blog post on CMIS and Plone? http://blog.jazkarta.com/2009/10/27/plone-web-services-what-about-cmis/ > 5) Terabyte storage solutions. Documentum and their DMS-based ilk have > handled this for years. How many large-scale storage Plone case studies are > there on plone.net? Many a time, Plone integrators can't discuss the few > successes that may exist here. Hopefully, this story improves with BLOB > storage in Plone 4. Sasha recently wrote a blog post about large repositories of data being served up from Plone using plone.app.blob. http://valentinewebsystems.com/en/blog/plone-powers-50gb-of-environmental-data We're currently working on a project to build a digital asset management system using Plone, which will be serving terabytes of data. Nate > Matt Hamilton wrote: >> >> On 30 Nov 2009, at 09:18 PM, Dylan Jay wrote: >> >>> These are awesome points. I think unique and challenging reality is that >>> plone is both product and a platform but we've been trying market both >>> through the same channels which is why the message has sometimes been >>> confusing. Eg we say plone is easy to install but in reality only in >>> drvrloment mode not production mode so that is really a platfom message not >>> a product message. >>> Drupal delivers drupal the product message via it's dot com site and it's >>> platform message via it's dot org site. >>> >>> I am also thinking we are better off concentrating on selling plone as a >>> platform. Not just because we need more develepers and integrators to gain >>> greater momentum but recently I've been discovering plone doest sell well as >>> a product. >>> If someone comes to us (as PretaWeb) and says >>> A) we need a website that can blah blah then plone is easy to sell. >>> If a customer comes to us and says >>> B) we're considering to purchase plone as a cms or intranet it's a really >>> hard sell. >>> This is even though we sell training and support and that both solutions >>> would need to be equally customized. Why? >>> People picking products tend to pick product companies. Makes them more >>> comfortable. They feel like they can sue them and that will act more to help >>> them to protect the reputation of the product etc. Plone has no product >>> company. >>> I guess this is why open source works better for platforms than products. >> >> I'm at a show so only a brief reply now, but just say that CMS Watch >> recently recategorised their vendor listings and now split by platform vs >> product and by size. IIRC Plone is in the Mid-range Platform category. Along >> with Drupal and Typo3. Alfresco is in Upper-range platform. Joomla and >> Terminal4 are in Simpler Products. >> >> The CMS Watch stand is near us at the show I'll try and get some feedback >> on their views as to what went into categorising them. >> >> -Matt >> ___ >> Evangelism mailing list >> Evangelism@lists.plone.org >> http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism >> >> > > ___ > Evangelism mailing list > Evangelism@lists.plone.org > http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism > -- Nate Aune - na...@jazkarta.com http://www.jazkarta.com http://card.ly/natea +1 (617) 517-4953 ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
[Evangelism] [Fwd: Save the Date - OSCON is back in Portland!]
hey everybody, just a heads up that OSCON will be back in Portland, OR in 2010, and we should make best efforts to have a strong Plone presence there. we should consider exhibiting and getting a Plone Foundation booth as well. nate --- Begin Message --- If you cannot read the information below, click here: http://post.oreilly.com/rd/9z1zdg4g5scrjn95talckbj9fqm85ldcsuc6rsj5nug. Attention all open source enthusiasts: O'Reilly Open Source Convention, OSCON, is happening July 19 -23, 2010, and get this, back at the Oregon Convention Center in Portland Oregon! The call for proposals will open in December and we'll unveil the program and open registration in February. Stay tuned for further details in the coming weeks. == Follow OSCON, Receive Updates == You can follow OSCON on: Twitter: http://post.oreilly.com/rd/9z1zupejgu2bgbqsrce19ornkm39s3e9kk05rrm41ro Facebook: http://post.oreilly.com/rd/9z1zs9asjek2dpbq6llgmbusdl66cu56jmmdo32ql98 Identica: http://post.oreilly.com/rd/9z1z4g3jckurmvipov169naq9pgoqm7tuegnlqhkgn8 LinkedIn: http://post.oreilly.com/rd/9z1zvtn35ubbnfc75vneaco8kh2ae8a9qadvke178s8 To receive advance notification and stay informed on the program as it develops, sign up for the conference newsletter at: http://post.oreilly.com/rd/9z1z3uvb6t2qrg2p7cseen2dokq9815vk17pc750b3o == Sponsorship Opportunities == Sponsorship and exhibit opportunities are available to promote your company at the 12th annual OSCON. Contact Sharon Cordesse for details: scorde...@oreilly.com For media and promotional partner opportunities please email to: mediapartn...@oreilly.com We look forward to seeing you in Portland next summer, The 2010 OSCON Conference Team You are receiving this message because you signed up to receive the OSCON newsletter via email. To change your newsletter subscription options, please visit http://post.oreilly.com/rd/9z1zd9ch9l6u082spk4plt05tdfuuj6dkhk8lroidoo. To ensure delivery to your inbox (not bulk or junk folders), please add conferen...@post.oreilly.com to your address book. Forward this announcement to a friend: http://post.oreilly.com/f2f/9z1ztr34mi2vkd4imeb9v8gegab7gm80dn61t2i7oqg To unsubscribe from all email announcements from O'Reilly, click here. http://post.oreilly.com/prefs/9z1zkgg6lggumns03i0uhe8d289r8fcs7a03eth5ncg. For assistance, email conf-ad...@oreilly.com O'Reilly Media, Inc. 1005 Gravenstein Highway North, Sebastopol, CA 95472 (707) 827-7000 / (800) 998-9938 --- End Message --- ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] The State of Drupal
> Dries opinion on why it's important: "Plus, large organizations that are > about to invest hundreds of thousands of dollars in a website project, don't > want to make the wrong technology choice. Instead, those large businesses > call Gartner, or any of the other analyst firms, to get advice on what > technologies to adopt." Yes, the large businesses look to the analyst firms to tell them what is a "safe" choice. They don't want to go out on a limb and make a choice that goes against the common practice. By going with the recommendations of the analysts, they can always justify their decision and point their boss to the Gartner report saying that IBM (or whatever) was a recommended as a good choice for the type of system they needed to implement. > How they did it: > "One of the things we've been doing since the inception of Acquia, is > talking to analyst firms like Gartner, Forrester, and the 451group about > Drupal, and all of Drupal's successes. Almost all of that work is carried > out by Acquia's marketing people, but I've been in several analyst calls > myself." > > Ie, paid marketing people who are lobbying analysts and ringing them > constantly to develop relationships. ideas anyone? Yes, if the Plone Foundation had a paid marketing person, I think this would be a very effective use of their time. Reaching out to the analysts and showing them Plone's strengths. I know that Matt Hamilton will be meeting with Janus Boye (who just organized the http://jboye.com conference in Aarhus, Denmark) at an upcoming conference in England. Scott - you and I may want to jump on Matt's suggestion of having an "analysts day" at Gilbane and invite all the analysts to a session where we can get them up-to-speed on the state of Plone, and try to get Plone included in their future CMS reports, or at least get them blogging about it and getting Plone on the radar screen of larger organizations. Nate -- Nate Aune - na...@jazkarta.com http://www.jazkarta.com http://card.ly/natea +1 (617) 517-4953 ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] Hack Plone! Win a Mac!
I think it's a great idea. Set up a server (perhaps using the Hardening Plone howto below) and let the games begin! http://plone.org/documentation/how-to/securing-plone/ Nate On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 11:52 AM, Jan Ulrich Hasecke wrote: > Hi all, > > what do you think about a hacking contest? We setup a plain plone site and > who ever hacks it first wins a mac or a playstation or whatever. > > All exploits must be documented of course so that we can fix them. > > We promote Plone as a secure system and can document it with the CVE entries > but often people say, yeah, but there are a lot less installations of Plone > than there are of PHP-systems, so you cannot compare the figures. > > So lets challenge the hackers! > > This could be an online event with a great publicity effect may be in the > run-up to the World Plone Day. > > What do you think? > juh > > Jan Ulrich Hasecke > (DZUG e.V.) > > -- > DZUG e.V. (Deutschsprachige Zope User Group) > www.dzug.org > www.zope.de > > > ___ > Evangelism mailing list > Evangelism@lists.plone.org > http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism > > -- Nate Aune - na...@jazkarta.com http://www.jazkarta.com http://card.ly/natea +1 (617) 517-4953 ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] Plone not listed on sixrevisions.com post "How to Evaluate What CMS to Use"
Plone is not mentioned in this article "Choose the best free CMS" either, although it's mentioned in the comments. http://www.netmag.co.uk/zine/discover-culture/choose-the-best-free-cms Nate On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 4:59 PM, David Sapiro - Pilot Systems wrote: > Hi, > > http://sixrevisions.com/web-development/how-to-evaluate-what-cms-to-use/ > > You can read: > > "" > Stewart McCoy > November 25th, 2009 > Joel, > I noticed Plone isn’t listed on here. I’ve not used it a lot myself, but my > major professor (who also runs http://www.eserver.org) swears by it. I’ve > also noticed it’s been the recipient of several awards. > Was it in consideration? If so, why did you decide to leave it off? If not, > is Plone not on the radars of many professional web developers? > "" > > FYI and action, too late for me to work on that one ;) > > Dave > > -- > David Sapiro - da...@pilotsystems.net > Pilot Systems - 9, rue Desargues - 75011 Paris > Tel : +33 1 44 53 05 55 - www.pilotsystems.net > Gérez vos contacts et vos newsletters : www.cockpit-mailing.com > > > > > > > > ___ > Evangelism mailing list > Evangelism@lists.plone.org > http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism > -- Nate Aune - na...@jazkarta.com http://www.jazkarta.com http://card.ly/natea +1 (617) 517-4953 ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
[Evangelism] Fwd: CM Pros Fall 2009 Summit Agenda Updated
We should really be trying to get case studies of using transmogrifier to migrate content into Plone for conferences like these where many analysts attend and potential enterprise customers. It's one of the biggest pain points of any major WCM implementation and transmogrifier handles the migration of data very elegantly. Would be good to toot our own horn and let the analysts know that these solutions exist for Plone. Nate -- Nate Aune - na...@jazkarta.com http://www.jazkarta.com Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: From: Content Management Professionals Date: November 25, 2009 11:49:53 AM CST To: Nate Aune Subject: CM Pros Fall 2009 Summit Agenda Updated LinkedIn Groups Group: Content Management Professionals Subject: CM Pros Fall 2009 Summit Agenda Updated Four additional speakers have been confirmed for the upcoming CM Pros Summit Dec 1st in Boston at the Gilbane Conference. This year’s summit is comprised of two workshops. In the morning workshop, Open Source Products and Standards and the impact on Information Management, Mollye Barrett of ClearPath, LLC, has been added to the program to discuss the impact of open source software and standards on Component Content Management. Mollye will be joined by Brad Kain of Quoin, who will look at the same topic from the perspective of ECM, and Seth Gottlieb of Content Here, who will look at this from the perspective of WCM. In the afternoon workshop, Content Migration - the Dirty Little Secret of Content Management, two case studies have been confirmed: * Andy Striemer and Chad Miller of Robert Half International, Inc. present their project work for automating corporate intranet content migration from a static platform to a content management system. * Gerrit Berkouwer, Dutch Ministry of General Affairs/Government Information Service, will describe how the Dutch Government migrated and integrated many central government websites, including the corporate websites of all Dutch Ministries, into one new, central website www.rijksoverheid.nl. Join your fellow CM Pros at the Fall Summit 2009 for two interactive and engaging workshops with our feature speakers, the popular "Ask the Experts" panel and round table open discussions on topics that are most meaningful to you. Posted By Andrew Wilcox View or add comments » Don't want to hear from the manager? Unsubscribe here LinkedIn values your privacy. At no time has LinkedIn made your email address available to any other LinkedIn user without your permission. ©2009, LinkedIn Corporation. ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] Re: plone t-shirt
Thanks Massimo! These look great! Ken and Scott - do you think we should get some of these t-shirts printed out for Gilbane to hand out as prizes? http://www.redturtle.it/solutions/ploneshirt/plone-t-shirt-with-creative-commons-license/view?set_language=en We can also be wearing them so that as people come to the booth, they can clearly identify who can answer their questions about Plone. I remember at the NTEN conference, people would come up and it wasn't clear who was a Plone person and who wasn't, so they would kind of lurk in the wings. Nate On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 2:02 PM, Massimo Azzolini wrote: > Hi, > as I said, we're going to share the file for printing the t-shirt we ware at > the ploneconf: > http://bit.ly/6DF8Tj > feel free to download them! > massimo > --- > > > On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 7:39 PM, Massimo Azzolini > wrote: >> >> hi all, >> for the last ploneconference, we created some t-shirts: "plone is cool" on >> the front, some lines of code on the back. >> if someone is interested in, we are thinking about sharing the files, so >> that you can customize them with your own logo or whatever you want. >> we'd like to use a creative common license and to put them somewhere. >> irene, which did the work would like to know: >> - which format is better for you? we used adobe illustrator cs4, so any >> previous version can be extracted >> - we have a unique big file with all the parts inside, is it better to >> have separated files (we have five differente chunks of code)? >> what do you think? >> massimo >> --- > > > ___ > Evangelism mailing list > Evangelism@lists.plone.org > http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism > > -- Nate Aune - na...@jazkarta.com http://www.jazkarta.com http://card.ly/natea +1 (617) 517-4953 ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] The State of Drupal
sts) to do the talks. I wanted to pass on a few things on what I >> observed. Share as appropriate. >> >> 1) Drupal is also having the framework vs product debate. From what I >> heard, the "framework" side is definitely winning. Many Drupal integrators >> are actually demanding that some new, friendlier UI in the Drupal 7 preview >> be rolled back because they feel it undermines their flexibility as >> integrators. Drupal 7 continues to be a micro-core product that is not >> really suitable for use out of the box. The Drupal folks emphasize that no >> inexperienced person should think they can integrate Drupal by themselves >> (for more than a blog), as they need to gain a lot of experience as to which >> modules really work together. >> >> 2) There is no migration path for add-on modules between 6 and 7. The core >> devs emphasize that it will be a rare 6 module that does not need a complete >> rewrite to become a 7 module. The integrators in the audience moaned loudly >> on receiving this news, and complained that this was awful for them. The >> core devs replied that the new APIs would make add on modules more secure >> and reliable. >> >> 3) Drupal is still very complex for end users. I don't think they really >> differentiate between users and site managers. Positioning a node in the >> content hierarchy still requires intimate knowledge of how Drupal works (or >> add on modules that organize portions of the tree). The ideal Drupal install >> is probably either small enough that a single site admin is not a >> bottleneck, or large enough that several site admins can be well trained. >> >> 4) Permissions and roles are still pretty much global, and workflow is >> rudimentary. No ACLs. The organic groups module remedies some of that, but >> there was skepticism about whether or not it could be ported to 7. >> >> 5) The CCK (content creation kit) is now pretty much integrated into 7, >> and is really pretty cool in its ability to allow site admins to add fields >> to content types TTW. On the other hand, they don't have a round trip story, >> and I heard a couple of conversations, that translated to Plone-speak, >> amounted to "we need something like generic setup to handle repeatable >> deployments." >> >> 6) Real-life Drupal is actually very resource intensive. The audience was >> told that they could do something like a blog on a cheapo host, but that a >> real deployment with multiple content authors would require a dedicated >> server or large virtual slice. >> >> 7) They are still, out-of-the-box, a great blogging platform, and if >> you're using Drupal as a "news to the home page site" with a few static >> pages, it's easy and fast to configure. >> >> 8) The party line on Acquia is that what's good for Acquia and Dries is >> good for Drupal. I saw not a hint of discomfort with that. >> >> 9) A somewhat contradictory pair of party lines: "it's easy to find PHP >> programmers, and they're inexpensive, therefore PHP is the place to be" and >> "Don't even think of using a PHP programmer with less than 3 years Drupal >> experience to do any customization." >> >> 10) Taxonomy was "never meant to provide site structure" and is now >> deprecated as a way to build nav trees. The "right" way to do it is with the >> new relations fields, which allow you to pick nodes as parents/children. >> >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> Evangelism mailing list >> Evangelism@lists.plone.org >> http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism >> > > > > -- > Scott Paley | ABSTRACT EDGE > > Office: 212.352.9311 > Direct: 212.352.1470 > Fax: 212.352.9498 > > Website: http://www.abstractedge.com > Blog: http://www.brandinteractivism.com > > ___ > Evangelism mailing list > Evangelism@lists.plone.org > http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism > > -- Nate Aune - na...@jazkarta.com http://www.jazkarta.com http://card.ly/natea +1 (617) 517-4953 ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] plone t-shirt
I just dug through my Gmail to find an email from 11/3/2006 from Jonah Bossewitch about a Cafepress store he made to sell Plone merchandise: http://www.cafepress.com/ploneshop Obviously, we'd need to update these items to use the new logo, but might this be a good starting point? Nate On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 11:39 PM, Dylan Jay wrote: > > On 10/11/2009, at 6:22 AM, JoAnna Springsteen wrote: > > We could sell extra conference shirts, stickers, quick ref cards, >> whatever else we come up with. A ton of open source projects have >> them. Usually they go through zazzle or cafe press to make >> distribution easier. >> All profits could go to the foundation- not that it would be a huge >> amount of money. You guys see how fast awesome schwag goes at events. >> I know I'd purchase a couple of Plone t-shirts, especially if they had >> women's styles. >> Plus, there's no better way to get someone to ask you about Plone when >> you're wearing a t-shirt with some crazy dots on it and they want to >> know what it means.\ >> > > If we ever have to rename Plone I vote for CrazyDots :) > > +1 for merchandise store. > > > > J. >> >> >> >> On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Massimo Azzolini >> wrote: >> >>> wow :) >>> massimo >>> --- >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 8:16 PM, JoAnna Springsteen >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> It would be super awesome if we had a plone.org merchandise page >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> ___ >> Evangelism mailing list >> Evangelism@lists.plone.org >> http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism >> > > > ___ > Evangelism mailing list > Evangelism@lists.plone.org > http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism > -- Nate Aune - na...@jazkarta.com http://www.jazkarta.com http://card.ly/natea +1 (617) 517-4953 ** Learn best practices for deploying your Plone sites at our upcoming Plone Deployment Training in Budapest ** http://plonedeployment-natesig.eventbrite.com ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] PloneConf2009 Marketing Meeting
Hi Karl, I think the consensus was to do it at 10am (in 30 min from now). We'll try to set up a Skype video chat so you can participate. What's your Skype handle? Hope you can make it! Nate On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 5:10 AM, Karl Horak wrote: > > Please clarify -- 10:00 a.m. or 4:15 p.m. Budapest time? > > > Francesco Ciriaci wrote: > > > > The last proposal is to move to 4.15 p.m. the meeting so that us > > evangelists can remotely join the discussion. > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://n2.nabble.com/PloneConf2009-Marketing-Meeting-tp3905920p3917065.html > Sent from the Evangelism mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > ___ > Evangelism mailing list > Evangelism@lists.plone.org > http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism > -- Nate Aune - na...@jazkarta.com http://www.jazkarta.com http://card.ly/natea +1 (617) 517-4953 ** Learn best practices for deploying your Plone sites at our upcoming Plone Deployment Training in Budapest ** http://plonedeployment-natesig.eventbrite.com ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] PloneConf2009 Marketing Meeting
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Francesco Ciriaci wrote: > Hi everyone, > > for the meeting: > http://www.coactivate.org/projects/plone-marketing/ploneconf2009-marketing-meeting > > there are 15 people registered but I fear that some others just forgot > (Nate? Matt?) > I added my name to the list. > > The last proposal is to move to 4.15 p.m. the meeting so that us > evangelists can remotely join the discussion. > If the meeting time is going to be changed, the time on the wiki page needs to be updated. just a FYI. http://www.coactivate.org/projects/plone-marketing/ploneconf2009-marketing-meeting Nate -- Nate Aune - na...@jazkarta.com http://www.jazkarta.com http://card.ly/natea +1 (617) 517-4953 ** Learn best practices for deploying your Plone sites at our upcoming Plone Deployment Training in Budapest ** http://plonedeployment-natesig.eventbrite.com ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] PloneConf2009 Marketing Meeting
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 5:31 PM, Dylan Jay wrote: > If open spaces is anything like bar camps I've been to there will be a lot > of really interesting short talks given. I suspect marketting is going to > be long and also very interesting. Not sure if others agree but I'd love to > set aside perhaps half a day of the sprint or perhaps set aside one evening > so no other parts of the conference is missed. > yeah, maybe a "marketing dinner" would be a good time to brainstorm and talk about marketing stuff. but i'm open to doing a shorter session during the open space period instead or in addition to. i'll be pretty busy with the plone video sprint, amberjack sprint and possibly a banjo sprint, so it would be difficult for me to also participate in a marketing sprint, but if that's what the others want to do, i will do my best to be there. nate On 27/10/2009, at 2:56 PM, JoAnna Springsteen wrote: > > This time does not allow anyone who isn't attending the conference to >> participate, including the marketing team leader Mark Corum. Why not >> move this to say 2pm Budapest time in order to get a broader range of >> participants and actually learn what the marketing plan entails? >> >> JoAnna >> >> ___ >> Evangelism mailing list >> Evangelism@lists.plone.org >> http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism >> > > ___ > Evangelism mailing list > Evangelism@lists.plone.org > http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism > -- Nate Aune - na...@jazkarta.com http://www.jazkarta.com http://card.ly/natea +1 (617) 517-4953 ** Learn best practices for deploying your Plone sites at our upcoming Plone Deployment Training in Budapest ** http://plonedeployment-natesig.eventbrite.com ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] Who's interested in a 2009:Plone Marketing Meeting?
+1. Let me know when and where and I'll be there! On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 2:35 PM, JoAnna Springsteen wrote: > > I'll ensure there is a slot for this on the open spaces day and will > see > > it we can get a skype call going during for remote participation. I'm > very > > interested in this myself. > > > If you guys get a skype call going, I'm definitely in. > > JoAnna. > > ___ > Evangelism mailing list > Evangelism@lists.plone.org > http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism > -- Nate Aune - na...@jazkarta.com http://www.jazkarta.com http://card.ly/natea +1 (617) 517-4953 ** Learn best practices for deploying your Plone sites at our upcoming Plone Deployment Training in Budapest ** http://plonedeployment-natesig.eventbrite.com ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] Software Freedom Day: let's promote Plone!
i gave a short lightning talk about Deliverance at the Boston Software Freedom Day. anyone else get a chance to talk about Plone or related technologies? Nate On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 8:09 PM, Roberto Allende wrote: > Hello > > Saturday 19 September is the Software Freedom Day (SFD), a worldwide > celebration of Free and Open Source Software (FOSS). > > Probably is a little bit late, bit just in case you didn't know about it, > there are more than 500 teams in more than 90 countries organizing a free > software event. > > This is a great opportunity to show your speaker skills and promote Plone. > > Free Software convention usually give us a great opportunity to meet > friends and promote our work. > > If you're interested, check if there are a local event nearby and contact > organizers: http://cgi.softwarefreedomday.org/2009/map.shtml > > Kind Regards > r. > > -- > http://robertoallende.com > > > ___ > Evangelism mailing list > Evangelism@lists.plone.org > http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism > -- Nate Aune - na...@jazkarta.com http://www.jazkarta.com http://card.ly/natea +1 (617) 517-4953 ** Learn best practices for deploying your Plone sites at our upcoming Plone Deployment Training in Budapest ** http://plonedeployment-natesig.eventbrite.com ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
[Evangelism] Harvard SEAS launched new Plone-based website and intranet
In case you didn't see the blog post on planet.plone.org, I wanted to let everyone know that last thursday, the Harvard School for Engineering and Applied Sciences (SEAS) launched a new Plone-based public website at http://www.seas.harvard.edu We also developed a Plone powered intranet for SEAS which you can see at http://intranet.seas.harvard.edu Read the blog post which has links to videos and slides about the project. http://blog.jazkarta.com/2009/09/01/plonified-harvard-seas-hits-plone-site-trifecta/ Stay tuned for more blog posts which will have details about the technical implementation and project management process. Please check out the site(s) and let us know what you think! thanks, Nate -- Nate Aune - na...@jazkarta.com http://www.jazkarta.com http://card.ly/natea +1 (617) 517-4953 ** Learn best practices for deploying your Plone sites at our upcoming Plone Deployment Training in Budapest ** http://plonedeployment-natesig.eventbrite.com ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] Conference coverage by specialized magazines
http://www.websitemagazine.com/ is another one. I know the editor-in-chief Pete Prestipino and can contact him if you want. Nate On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 8:57 AM, Maurizio Delmonte < maurizio.delmo...@abstract.it> wrote: > Hi all! > As many, i receive CMSWire newletter, which is always recalling me of > important events on the radar.. but i'm still waiting to see the Plone > Conference 2009 appearing there :) > > Talking with Balasz Ree, organizer of the Plone Conference 2009, it came > out that he has already invited hungarian media to cover the event, but no > others. > > He also told me there is no problem to give press tickets to journalists we > would like to invite, making sure they don't want to come for free just on > the reason of being press. > > So i'm asking you if it is feasible to share a list of interesting > magazines to approach, and invite them to the conference. > > i can just note down this three: > > - http://www.cmswatch.com/ > > - http://www.cmswire.com/ > > - http://punto-informatico.it/ (Italian) > > can you suggest more? :) > if you directly know journalists on those magazines, can you also offer to > contact them? > > thanks! > > Maurizio - miziodel > > > -- > Maurizio Delmonte - [maurizio.delmo...@abstract.it > ] > Abstract Open Solutions [http://www.abstract.it] > Tel./Fax +39 081-0608213 > > ___ > Evangelism mailing list > Evangelism@lists.plone.org > http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism > > -- Nate Aune - na...@jazkarta.com http://www.jazkarta.com ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] Sneak Preview of Plone 4
> in a month we will have a booth at the LinuxTag in Berlin, the biggest > Open-Source-Event in Germany. Great! I gave a talk at LinuxTag a couple years ago and really enjoyed my stay in Berlin. Glad to hear that Plone will be represented there. > Is it feasible to show a sneak preview of Plone 4 at the Booth? You might want to check out Eric Steele's talk about Plone 4 UI. rtsp://streaming.psu.edu/public/dcn113_pug-20090116a.mov And Rob Gietema's talk from the Plone European Symposium http://plone.tv/media/1010208981/view There are talks on the 3Ds (Deco, Dexterity and Deliverance) from members of the Plone Seattle User Group on World Plone Day http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/1420116 Limi also gave a talk about Plone 4/5 at the Plone Symposium East, and the video of that talk should be available soon. Nate -- Nate Aune - na...@jazkarta.com http://www.jazkarta.com ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] Plone and City of Austin
imho, the following article on The Statesmen is more inflammatory than the one you cited because it implies that the winning bidder (Cignex) was not proposing an open source CMS (Plone). http://www.statesman.com/news/content/business/stories/technology/05/18/0518cityweb.html?cxntlid=inform_artr Nate On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 12:46 PM, diego7 wrote: > > Plone developers need to speak up here: > > http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/05/29/0529webdesign.html > > I think there's lot of disinformation about this bid. From the looks of it, > the second-place bidder managed to whine enough to the local rag there, > blaming Plone and anything else except their own incompetence. It would be > sucky if in the future, other RFP writers pointed to Plone and said, "Not > open source." > > Gotta let these newspaper people know that they're being taken, you know? > Not like papers will do simple research themselves you know, like visit > plone.org and see "open source CMS" written at the top? Defending against > these baseless attacks is of paramount importance to all Plone developers' > livelihood. There's no quotes from Cignex anywhere to be found. You'd think > they'd do *something* to defend themselves and/or Plone. > > > > > spaley wrote: >> >> The short version is that Cignex won this bid originally. Apparently CoA >> issued this RFP to many, many firms and only 3 responded. The other two >> were >> Austin-based. Most people seem to think the reason so few companies >> responded was that Plone was a requirement and few companies have that >> expertise. >> >> One of the companies that chose not to bid gave their reasoning here: >> http://www.trademarkmedia.com/blog/entry/my-thoughts-on-the-city-of-austin-web-site-debacle/ >> >> Cignex gave the lowest bid, so they were about to be awarded the contract >> pending a final vote. >> >> Somebody in Austin made a huge deal about this on Twitter and then lots of >> Austin people freaked out that a $700k+ contract to redo CoA's website was >> going to a non-Austin-based company. The vote to award the contract was >> "postponed", and now they redid the entire RFP. >> >> I think this process has been going on for well over a year, and it sounds >> like a pretty broken process. >> >> More at http://www.bizjournals.com/austin/stories/2009/03/23/daily22.html >> >> Some of the venom is clearly (and completely unfairly) pointed at Plone, >> likely by those who lost out on this and know nothing about Plone itself. >> Plone is a convenient scape goat here. Obviously Plone is as open an >> architecture as they come. >> >> On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 8:58 AM, Matt Hamilton >> wrote: >> >>> I know very little about this, but know that there was some big contract >>> for City of Austin's website. Looks liek something has changed, but the >>> PR >>> looks a bit odd: >>> >>> http://www.meterthis.net/ >>> http://twitter.com/#search?q=COA >>> >>> They are saying things like: >>> >>> “City is scrapping prior website proposal. Will move to open >>> architecture, >>> customer-focused structure. No more Plone. New bid released soon" >>> >>> Which seems to imply that Plone is not an open architecture. >>> >>> Anyone know more about this? Wasn't it something to do with Cignex? >>> >>> -Matt >>> >>> -- >>> Matt Hamilton ma...@netsight.co.uk >>> Netsight Internet Solutions, Ltd. Understand. Develop. Deliver >>> http://www.netsight.co.uk +44 (0)117 9090901 >>> Web Design | Zope/Plone Development & Consulting | Co-location | Hosting >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Evangelism mailing list >>> Evangelism@lists.plone.org >>> http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Scott Paley | ABSTRACT EDGE >> >> Office: 212.352.9311 >> Direct: 212.352.1470 >> Fax: 212.352.9498 >> >> Website: http://www.abstractedge.com >> Blog: http://www.brandinteractivism.com >> >> ___ >> Evangelism mailing list >> Evangelism@lists.plone.org >> http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism >> >> > > -- > View this message in context: > http://n2.nabble.com/Plone-and-City-of-Austin-tp2987460p2994858.html > Sent from the Evangelism mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > ___ > Evangelism mailing list > Evangelism@lists.plone.org > http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism > -- Nate Aune - na...@jazkarta.com http://www.jazkarta.com ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] Plone Awards BoF at Plone Symposium East
I'd be interested in discussing the Plone Awards at the symposium. Nate On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 9:14 PM, Matt Fisher wrote: > Hey all, > > Just wondering whether there would be enough interested parties to try for > a Plone Awards BoF session at Plone Symposium East next week. I'll be there > Tues nite thru late Fri nite, but won't be around for the weekend sprint. > > I've got a revised proposal to walk through & talk about if there are a > couple takers. > > Matt > > > Matt Fisher > m...@mattfisherstudio.com > 917-656-6272 > www.mattfisherstudio.com > AIM: m...@mattfisherstudio.com > twitter: matt_fisher > > > ___ > Evangelism mailing list > Evangelism@lists.plone.org > http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism > > -- Nate Aune - na...@jazkarta.com Sign up for Plone Developer training on the Amalfi Coast of Italy (5/11-12). http://plonedev-natesig.eventbrite.com ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] 46,000 zope websites online in April 2009?
another trending site that I came across: http://trends.builtwith.com/?tech=edc7baa8-2aa0-42e6-b30c-89f0805bc96b nate On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 9:31 PM, matt_fisher wrote: > > So says Netcraft's April survey, sort of as a curious aside in the intro. > Does anybody get the full metrics from Netcraft? It'd be interesting to > see > what the breakdown is... > > URL: > > http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2009/04/06/april_2009_web_server_survey.html > > -Matt Fisher > m...@mattfisherstudio.com > twitter: matt_fisher > -- > View this message in context: > http://n2.nabble.com/46%2C000-zope-websites-online-in-April-2009--tp2886064p2886064.html > Sent from the Evangelism mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > ___ > Evangelism mailing list > Evangelism@lists.plone.org > http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism > -- Nate Aune - na...@jazkarta.com Sign up for Plone Developer training on the Amalfi Coast of Italy (5/11-12). http://plonedev-natesig.eventbrite.com ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] A Plone application to translate hundreds of thousands of user interface strings ('a la' launchpad or multiuser BabelFish)
At 4:30 wednesday and thursday we will have birds-of-a-feather sessions at which you can present your application. Looking forward to see it! Nate On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 3:13 AM, Antonio Carrasco MDDsl wrote: > Dear Colleagues, > > We at Model Driven Development sl (Valencia, Spain) > have developed with our institutional sponsor > http://www.cit.gva.es > GIS project > http://www.gvsig.org > > an application for agile collaborative translation of user interface > strings, > able to manage all the strings from all Plone and 3rd party .PO and .POT > we've been able to gather, and still offer excelent performance > even in lesser systems like an eeeUbuntu. > > I am sure that the symposium would be a good place to gather priceless > feedback, > and also an opportunity for the domain players to know about it, > and may be include the app in their future tacticals. > > May I ask, as late as it is, some opportunity, slot, or permission to > publicise this applicartion ? > > I also welcome leads about possible sponsors for further perfecting the > application, > as this is, we believe, a most relevant aspect of european FLOSS IT future > consolidation. > > In short: a non trivial Plone product that proves its excellence for high > loads > (thanks in part to implement interactions of the most critical use cases > as AJAX) > that's bound to make a difference in the completeness of Plone and Plone > products internationalization, > and seeking additional sponsorts, on top of the current goverment ones, > to further the breadh and depth of the tool coverage of the problem and > solution spaces. > > Antonio Carrasco Valero > Model Driven Development, sl > 608 792 429 > > See you at Sorrento! > Cheers! > > > > > ___ > Evangelism mailing list > Evangelism@lists.plone.org > http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism > > -- Nate Aune - na...@jazkarta.com Sign up for Plone Developer training on the Amalfi Coast of Italy (5/11-12). http://plonedev-natesig.eventbrite.com ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] Re: Seeking talking points for Plone sales pitch
Paul- when is your sales presentation? When thinking about Plone for intranets, these features come to mind: Workflow Users groups roles Fulltext indexing of documents Content rules to send email notifications Enfold Desktop for mounting Plone as a document repository Check the contributed materials in the Plone marketing wiki for some presentations you might find helpful. Nate -- Nate Aune - na...@jazkarta.com http://www.jazkarta.com Sent from my iPhone On May 4, 2009, at 2:03 AM, Calvin Hendryx-Parker wrote: Hi Paul, You may want to use the 15 Questions about Plone brochures (http://extranet.sixfeetup.com/Plone/top-15-questions-about-plone.pdf ) as inspiration. There are a lot of good answers to common questions there. Calvin On 5/3/09 3:14 PM, Paul Godley wrote: Greetings from a new list subscriber! I'll be doing a sales pitch at work proposing we use Plone for a company intranet. I'm seeking good talking points for a short presentation to decision makers. I originally asked on TriZPUG. They gave me some great advice and recommended I ask here too. I do Python and Zope programming, took Joel Burton's Plone Bootcamp last summer, have dipped my toe into Plone dev, and have an internal Plone server running with logins set up for some coworkers. I plan to use Plone's "view as slideshow" option to do a short presentation. My main point will be that the content is searchable. (As opposed to countless xls and doc files out on a file server.) Next, that Plone is easy for everyone to contribute to, thereby allowing the contribution and maintenance effort to be shared around the office. People in charge of the info can now be in charge of publishing it. Cool stuff. After that point, I'm not sure where I want to go. I'm thinking "can do a lot out of the box", "can display data from other databases we have", then "we can create custom content types if needed". It'll be a short presentation, so that will probably cover it. I'd love to benefit from the experience of others pitching Plone. Did some point really score for you? Did that thing you thought of as the killer feature fall flat with your audience? What worked and what didn't? Thanks in advance for sharing your experiences. -P -- S i x F e e t U p , I n c . | "Nowhere to go but open source" Midwest: +1 (317) 861-5948 x602 Toll-Free: 1-866-SIX-FEET mailto:cal...@sixfeetup.com ANNOUNCING the first Plone Immersive Training Experience | Sept. 10-11-12, 2009 http://www.sixfeetup.com/immerse ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] Re: Sharepoint vs. Plone
-- Nate Aune - na...@jazkarta.com http://www.jazkarta.com Sent from my iPhone On May 5, 2009, at 3:09 AM, "Traci Blount" wrote: All, I just joined the list a few days ago and I've learned so much already! I was wondering if there had been some similar work comparing Plone to Oracle Portal in a similar manner? If so, could someone point me to some resources? I don't know of anything comparing Plone and Oracle Portal, but if you evaluate the two systems, we'd love to hear your feedback! Nate Thanks! Traci Blount NC Department of Public Instruction tblo...@dpi.state.nc.us Nate Aune 05/04/09 8:32 PM >>> Idea to create whitepaper from Plone and Sharepoint stories. See http://www.openplans.org/projects/plone-marketing/plone-vs-sharepoint A great idea Nate! Just to point out to those that mgiht not have seen it yet, my blog post from Internet World: http://www.netsight.co.uk/blog/2009/5/1/plone-at-internet-world-expo Yes, great post! I had a couple of people come by the stand and look at the brochure, and when I approched them they said 'oh we use microsfot technology...' or 'oh we are going to use sharepoint'. I think the key is to really show users that Plone vs Sharepoint is like Apples vs Oranges. They really are different beasts. I normally start by telling people that they can co-exist together and really serve slightly different functions. The people I showed demos to of Plone at the expo really were blown away by the flexibility of Plone and what can be achieve with it. Yes, it's not fair to compare the two systems because they are fundamentally targeting different use cases, but one cannot deny that Plone's feature set overlaps a lot with what Sharepoint provides, and vice versa. I think they biggest thing to get over, is as Karl says in his Blog post, that in corporate-land deploying Sharepoint comes under a central IT budget. Even if the costs are higher (which is another topic... people think it is 'free') the end department that wants it is rarely the one that pays for it. Good point. I came across this SaaS cost savings calculator which might be useful for getting a good overview of what traditional "on-premise" software from the likes of Microsoft, Lotus, etc. costs an organization depending on how many users they have. http://www.phase2.com/savings/ Nate p.s. cc'ing the evangelism list since others might want to join in on this conversation. -- Nate Aune - na...@jazkarta.com Sign up for Plone Developer training on the Amalfi Coast of Italy (5/11-12). http://plonedev-natesig.eventbrite.com ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism "All e-mail correspondence to and from this address is subject to the North Carolina Public Records Law, which may result in monitoring and disclosure to third parties, including law enforcement." ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] Re: EU-Funded IKS Project needs CMS developers
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On May 7, 2009, at 9:32 AM, "Jens W. Klein"
wrote:
Am Wed, 06 May 2009 18:50:33 -0700 schrieb InitMarketing:
EU-funded IKS Project Invites Open Source CMS to Workshop on Semantic
Requirements
The European "IKS" Project ("Interactive Knowledge Stack") is
inviting
Free and Open Source Software (FOSS) community members to a
workshop on
May 28-29 in Salzburg, Austria. At this workshop IKS would like to
achieve some consensus on "semantic requirements" for open source
content management systems.
[...]
I try to participate. Its just 2h by train from here. Just wrote
them an
e-mail.
Hi Jens,
It would be great if you could go and represent Plone. See you in
Sortento in a few days!
Nate
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[Evangelism] Plone vs. Drupal
If anyone wants to chime in on this blog post requesting feedback about Plone vs. Drupal, I've just made a comment directing him to other resources on the subject, but I'm sure he would welcome feedback from others in the Plone community. http://www.fprimex.com/blog/2009/04/comparing-plone-drupal-need-input Nate -- Nate Aune - na...@jazkarta.com Sign up for Plone Developer training on the Amalfi Coast of Italy (5/11-12). http://plonedev-natesig.eventbrite.com ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
[Evangelism] Re: Sharepoint vs. Plone
Idea to create whitepaper from Plone and Sharepoint stories. See http://www.openplans.org/projects/plone-marketing/plone-vs-sharepoint > A great idea Nate! Just to point out to those that mgiht not have seen it > yet, my blog post from Internet World: > > http://www.netsight.co.uk/blog/2009/5/1/plone-at-internet-world-expo Yes, great post! > I had a couple of people come by the stand and look at the brochure, and > when I approched them they said 'oh we use microsfot technology...' or 'oh > we are going to use sharepoint'. I think the key is to really show users > that Plone vs Sharepoint is like Apples vs Oranges. They really are > different beasts. I normally start by telling people that they can co-exist > together and really serve slightly different functions. The people I > showed demos to of Plone at the expo really were blown away by the > flexibility of Plone and what can be achieve with it. Yes, it's not fair to compare the two systems because they are fundamentally targeting different use cases, but one cannot deny that Plone's feature set overlaps a lot with what Sharepoint provides, and vice versa. > I think they biggest thing to get over, is as Karl says in his Blog post, > that in corporate-land deploying Sharepoint comes under a central IT budget. > Even if the costs are higher (which is another topic... people think it is > 'free') the end department that wants it is rarely the one that pays for it. Good point. I came across this SaaS cost savings calculator which might be useful for getting a good overview of what traditional "on-premise" software from the likes of Microsoft, Lotus, etc. costs an organization depending on how many users they have. http://www.phase2.com/savings/ Nate p.s. cc'ing the evangelism list since others might want to join in on this conversation. -- Nate Aune - na...@jazkarta.com Sign up for Plone Developer training on the Amalfi Coast of Italy (5/11-12). http://plonedev-natesig.eventbrite.com ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] Performances Test - help needed
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Francesco Ciriaci wrote: > Hi folks, > > I'm working on an important presentation and I need some data on Plone > performances. Can you please help me pointing me to some good online > material? did you ever get any feedback on performance metrics? I know there was some work done at the Plone performance sprint to conduct load testing. http://www.openplans.org/projects/plone-performance-sprint-2008/standard-performance-scalability-test-suite-buildout Ross - were there any results posted anywhere? The only thing I could find was this graph, linked from your blog post. http://rpatterson.net/~xen/diff_ReadOnly-20081212T_145919_vs_140903/ via http://rpatterson.net/blog/functional-benchmarking-accessibility thanks, Nate -- Nate Aune - na...@jazkarta.com Sign up for Plone Developer training on the Amalfi Coast of Italy (5/11-12). http://plonedev-natesig.eventbrite.com ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
[Evangelism] report of the Plone Foundation booth at NTEN NTC conference in San Francisco
I'm just returning from attending the NTEN NTC conference (http://nten.org/ntc), the largest conference about non-profit technology in the US, which took place in San Francisco this year. This was the first time that the Plone Foundation had a booth at the exhibitor's "Science Fair" which took ran from 3pm-8pm on sunday. The foot traffic to the booth was much greater than anticipated, and there was a lot of interest in Plone from the 1,400 attendees of the conference. Many people came up and asked about Plone and how it compared to Drupal and Joomla. Luckily we had reprints of the Plone excerpt from the Idealware OSS CMS report to hand out to people, and the Idealware booth was right next to ours, so we could send them next door to inquire about the full 60 pg report. http://www.idealware.org/comparing_os_cms/ We also had a lot of questions about Plone and Salesforce integration, as this is the holy grail for non-profits to have their CMS integrated with their CRM for donor management and tracking their constituents level of engagement with their organization. The only other vendors providing this level of integration are large commercial vendors such as Convio and Blackbaud who charge a minimum of $30,000 per year, which pretty much leaves the smaller non-profits turning to open source solutions such as Plone combined with the free Salesforce Nonprofit Starter Pack. http://www.salesforcefoundation.org/nonprofitstarterpack The booth had pretty much non-stop traffic for the 3-8pm hours of the expo. The 5 of us were plenty busy answering questions and showing demos of Plone+Salesforce integration on the 17" monitor, while we had screencasts rolling on the 23" Cinema display. We ran out of the 15 Questions about Plone brochures (http://extranet.sixfeetup.com/Plone/top-15-questions-about-plone.pdf), and we gave out a lot of the little Plone stickers and bumper stickers. Thanks to Six Feet Up for printing them. http://www.sixfeetup.com/swag Lessons learned: 1) make some Plone+Salesforce screencasts and show them on the big screen. Chris ended up being a bottleneck because he could only show one person at a time on the little monitor. 2) make a brochure about "Plone for Nonprofits" which highlights NPOs that are using Plone, more info about the Salesforce integration. This provides a "take home" that they can show their boss. It's hard to capture a conversation and re-summarize it when you get back home. 3) Giving away the Practical Plone book was a good way to get people to drop their business cards into the glass bowl for a chance to win the free book. 4) Printing up a large format vinyl banner with grommets is not too expensive at Kinkos (around $100). Thanks to David Brenneman for taking care of this! (I only wish we had discovered the 25% off coupon on banners before we paid for it ;) Thanks to Jon Stahl, Chris Johnson, David Brenneman, Ross Patterson and Alexander Limi for helping out at the booth! We're planning to apply for a Plone Foundation booth at the OpenSourceWorld dotorg pavilion that is taking place in August, also in San Francisco, so if you would like to help out with this, please let us know! http://www.opensourceworld.com Nate -- Nate Aune - na...@jazkarta.com Sign up for Plone Developer training on the Amalfi Coast of Italy (5/11-12). http://plonedev-natesig.eventbrite.com ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] live video streaming of WPD events via uStream.tv
others have suggested to use "wpd2009" as it is short (good for twitter), but the one we used last year was "worldploneday2008", and i think it's good to maintain some consistency. also, no where in "wpd2009" is the word "plone", so this tag means nothing to an outsider. i therefore propose that we use the tag: "worldploneday2009" Presentations: http://www.slideshare.net/tag/worldploneday2009 Tweets: http://search.twitter.com/search?q=worldploneday2009 Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/worldploneday2009 Blog posts: http://technorati.com/tag/worldploneday2009 Links: http://delicious.com/tag/worldploneday2009 Videos: http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=worldploneday2009&search=tag Live streaming: http://www.ustream.tv/search/channel/tag/worldploneday2009/most_views/1 If you change the 2009 to 2008, you can see what was tagged last year. Be sure to tag your tweets, blog posts, presentations, videos, links and photos with "worldploneday2009"! It wouldn't hurt to also add the tags "worldploneday" and "plone" as well, to make the content easier to find in the future. Nate On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 8:29 PM, Takeshi Yamamoto wrote: > It's important to define the "keywords" for both ustream and flickr. > Last year, the keywords were various. eg. worldploneday, world plone day, > etc. > I would suggest to put "worldploneday", "2009", "location, eg. tokyo" into > the tag area at least, > so we will be able to see whole pictures at once. > > Thank you. > Takeshi Yamamoto > > > On Apr 22, 2009, at 5:20 AM, Nate Aune wrote: > > Last year we had a bunch of WPD organizers doing live video streaming >> their WPD events, and recording the talks for others to enjoy later. I would >> like to invite any WPD organizers to set up a uStream.tv account. It's very >> easy to do - all you need is a computer with a webcam, or a video camera >> hooked up to your computer. >> >> Then go to http://www.ustream.tv and set up a Show. When your WPD event >> starts, click the Record and Stream buttons to stream the video live, and >> also record the show for folks to watch later. >> >> If you would like your show to appear as a "partner" show on the main >> World Plone Day video page, please send me the URL to your channel, and I'll >> add your feed. >> >> Main WPD live video stream page: >> http://www.ustream.tv/channel/world-plone-day >> >> Looking forward to seeing some of you online tomorrow! >> >> thanks, >> Nate >> >> >> -- >> Nate Aune - na...@jazkarta.com >> Sign up for Plone Developer training on the Amalfi Coast of Italy >> (5/11-12). >> http://plonedev-natesig.eventbrite.com >> >> ___ >> Evangelism mailing list >> Evangelism@lists.plone.org >> http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism >> > > -- Nate Aune - na...@jazkarta.com Sign up for Plone Developer training on the Amalfi Coast of Italy (5/11-12). http://plonedev-natesig.eventbrite.com ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
[Evangelism] live video streaming of WPD events via uStream.tv
Last year we had a bunch of WPD organizers doing live video streaming their WPD events, and recording the talks for others to enjoy later. I would like to invite any WPD organizers to set up a uStream.tv account. It's very easy to do - all you need is a computer with a webcam, or a video camera hooked up to your computer. Then go to http://www.ustream.tv and set up a Show. When your WPD event starts, click the Record and Stream buttons to stream the video live, and also record the show for folks to watch later. If you would like your show to appear as a "partner" show on the main World Plone Day video page, please send me the URL to your channel, and I'll add your feed. Main WPD live video stream page: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/world-plone-day Looking forward to seeing some of you online tomorrow! thanks, Nate -- Nate Aune - na...@jazkarta.com Sign up for Plone Developer training on the Amalfi Coast of Italy (5/11-12). http://plonedev-natesig.eventbrite.com ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] Re: "Top 15 Questions..." Final Draft
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Chris Barnes wrote: > Donna Snow wrote: > >> Why not have an "install fest" of some sort to see just how easy it is for >> a potential user? >> > > This has got to be one of the best ideas I've seen. I'd probably even sign > up as one of your guinea pig / test subjects. :-) Linux folks do this all the time, usually at the end of their user group meetings (and sometimes accompanied by GPG key signing). I think it would be a great idea to host regular Plone install-fests, to help people get Plone installed on their computer, and then have a "what next" sheet or webpage of things to try once they have got it installed. Nate -- Nate Aune - na...@jazkarta.com http://nateaune.com (personal blog) http://jazkarta.com (open source technology solutions) http://twitter.com/natea (daily updates) ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] Use gigblastr to publicize your WPD event
On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 2:47 PM, Donna Snow wrote: > Thank You Nate I just figured that out :-) > > Great service btw, I just hadn't tried it yet. Everything else went > smoothly and I should be able to add stuff now that I added my venue, maybe > in the meantime a note at the bottom that says (if your venue is > unrecognized please add it to upcoming and eventful? Possibly a pain the > first time around but a little less frustrating :-)) Yeah, that's a good suggestion. Thanks for your feedback! Nate On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Nate Aune wrote: > >> I've heard you talk about gigblastr before and I'm finally getting around >>> to trying it. I'm holding an Open Door event for next week at my office >>> which is not a recognized venue I guess. So how do I get around the "I can't >>> find your venue"? >> >> >> yeah, that's a known problem which we are working to fix. you can either >> go to Upcoming or Eventful and add the venue on those sites, so that they >> appear in the Gigblastr venue search, or you can choose a more generic >> venue, and then manually change it after you've added the event. The >> Facebook event adding doesn't complain if it can't find the venue. >> >> Nate >> >> >>> On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Nate Aune wrote: >>> >>>> If you are organizing a World Plone Day event in your city, I want to >>>> tell you about a tool we developed for promoting an event on a bunch of >>>> event listing sites. You can use Gigblastr.com to post your event to >>>> Upcoming.org, Eventful.com, Facebook and Twitter, all in one go. >>>> http://gigblastr.com >>>> I used Gigblastr to post the Boston WPD event info and you can see the >>>> event posting and links on the right-hand side to these various services. >>>> http://gigblastr.com/e32184/ >>>> >>>> Nate >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Nate Aune - na...@jazkarta.com >>>> http://nateaune.com (personal blog) >>>> http://jazkarta.com (open source technology solutions) >>>> http://twitter.com/natea (daily updates) >>>> >>>> >>>> ___ >>>> Evangelism mailing list >>>> Evangelism@lists.plone.org >>>> http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Nate Aune - na...@jazkarta.com >> http://nateaune.com (personal blog) >> http://jazkarta.com (open source technology solutions) >> http://twitter.com/natea (daily updates) >> >> > -- Nate Aune - na...@jazkarta.com http://nateaune.com (personal blog) http://jazkarta.com (open source technology solutions) http://twitter.com/natea (daily updates) ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] Use gigblastr to publicize your WPD event
> > I've heard you talk about gigblastr before and I'm finally getting around > to trying it. I'm holding an Open Door event for next week at my office > which is not a recognized venue I guess. So how do I get around the "I can't > find your venue"? yeah, that's a known problem which we are working to fix. you can either go to Upcoming or Eventful and add the venue on those sites, so that they appear in the Gigblastr venue search, or you can choose a more generic venue, and then manually change it after you've added the event. The Facebook event adding doesn't complain if it can't find the venue. Nate > On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Nate Aune wrote: > >> If you are organizing a World Plone Day event in your city, I want to tell >> you about a tool we developed for promoting an event on a bunch of event >> listing sites. You can use Gigblastr.com to post your event to Upcoming.org, >> Eventful.com, Facebook and Twitter, all in one go. >> http://gigblastr.com >> I used Gigblastr to post the Boston WPD event info and you can see the >> event posting and links on the right-hand side to these various services. >> http://gigblastr.com/e32184/ >> >> Nate >> >> >> -- >> Nate Aune - na...@jazkarta.com >> http://nateaune.com (personal blog) >> http://jazkarta.com (open source technology solutions) >> http://twitter.com/natea (daily updates) >> >> >> ___ >> Evangelism mailing list >> Evangelism@lists.plone.org >> http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism >> >> > -- Nate Aune - na...@jazkarta.com http://nateaune.com (personal blog) http://jazkarta.com (open source technology solutions) http://twitter.com/natea (daily updates) ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
[Evangelism] Use gigblastr to publicize your WPD event
If you are organizing a World Plone Day event in your city, I want to tell you about a tool we developed for promoting an event on a bunch of event listing sites. You can use Gigblastr.com to post your event to Upcoming.org, Eventful.com, Facebook and Twitter, all in one go. http://gigblastr.com I used Gigblastr to post the Boston WPD event info and you can see the event posting and links on the right-hand side to these various services. http://gigblastr.com/e32184/ Nate -- Nate Aune - na...@jazkarta.com http://nateaune.com (personal blog) http://jazkarta.com (open source technology solutions) http://twitter.com/natea (daily updates) ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] Conference kit for hosting a Plone booth
it was just an idea that instead of getting a banner, we could make a poster. i think you can request printing on a variety of dimensions of paper. so maybe they would print it in a banner orientation as well. nate On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 9:00 PM, Gabrielle Hendryx-Parker < gabrie...@sixfeetup.com> wrote: > What kind of posters did you want to print? You mean, instead of a banner? > g > -- > S i x F e e t U p , I n c . | http://www.sixfeetup.com > Phone: +1 (317) 861-5948 x601 > gabrie...@sixfeetup.com > ANNOUNCING the first Plone Immersive Training Experience | Sept. 10-11-12, > 2009 > http://www.sixfeetup.com/immerse > > > > > > > > > On Apr 14, 2009, at 3:34 PM, Nate Aune wrote: > > I just heard about this service which seems pretty reasonably priced for >> printing full-size posters. http://www.fullsizeposters.com/ >> >> You simply upload an image file and they print and ship the poster to you. >> >> Nate >> >> On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Gabrielle Hendryx-Parker < >> gabrie...@sixfeetup.com> wrote: >> Hi Nate, >> >> Here's the quote I gave you back in March: >> >> >> FIle Prep Charge $15 >> 13 oz Vinyl Banner 3' x 6' with 6 grommets $88 >> Digital Printing (no color match charges and may be as many colors as we >> want) >> Package to ship UPS ground $17 (their time >> and materials to prepare for shipping) >> Shipping >> $20(estimated) >> Tax $10 >> Total$150 >> >> Additional Charges if not camera ready: >> Workstation time 1/2 hour - place logo, set text, add color as needed $70. >> >> Production time is 3-5 working days >> >> We have actually done a banner with them for Six Feet Up and were really >> pleased with the result. People who came to the DC party may remember it ;-) >> >> Thank you, >> >> g >> -- >> S i x F e e t U p , I n c . | http://www.sixfeetup.com >> Phone: +1 (317) 861-5948 x601 >> gabrie...@sixfeetup.com >> ANNOUNCING the first Plone Immersive Training Experience | Sept. 10-11-12, >> 2009 >> http://www.sixfeetup.com/immerse >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Apr 10, 2009, at 12:54 PM, Nate Aune wrote: >> >> Does someone who's printed banners before know what the expected costs >> are to print a banner with the Plone logo suitable for hanging up at a >> conference booth? >> >> I agree that if it's less expensive to print several at the same time, >> we should print several so we have them on hand and can easily ship >> them (more lightweight than vinyl or canvas) in a tube if for example >> there are two conferences happening at the same time. >> >> thanks, >> Nate >> >> On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 10:58 PM, Gabrielle Hendryx-Parker >> wrote: >> On Apr 8, 2009, at 1:46 AM, Jan Ulrich Hasecke wrote: >> >> If you can store things I won't print on demand put print a reasonable >> amount of copies to have them at hand if required. The price for a copy >> shrinks heavily if you print more copies in one process. >> >> Our experience in Germany is that people order marketing material very >> shortly before the event so that printing on demand might be no option at >> all. >> >> juh >> DZUG e.V: >> >> >> GHP: I totally agree with you, Jan. I think we need to have 3-4 inventory >> places all over the world to reap the benefits of efficiency, fast >> turnaround and economies of scale. >> >> ___ >> Evangelism mailing list >> Evangelism@lists.plone.org >> http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Nate Aune - na...@jazkarta.com >> http://nateaune.com (personal blog) >> http://jazkarta.com (open source technology solutions) >> http://twitter.com/natea (daily updates) >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Nate Aune - na...@jazkarta.com >> http://nateaune.com (personal blog) >> http://jazkarta.com (open source technology solutions) >> http://twitter.com/natea (daily updates) >> >> > -- Nate Aune - na...@jazkarta.com http://nateaune.com (personal blog) http://jazkarta.com (open source technology solutions) http://twitter.com/natea (daily updates) ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] Conference kit for hosting a Plone booth
I just heard about this service which seems pretty reasonably priced for printing full-size posters. http://www.fullsizeposters.com/ You simply upload an image file and they print and ship the poster to you. Nate On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Gabrielle Hendryx-Parker < gabrie...@sixfeetup.com> wrote: > Hi Nate, > > Here's the quote I gave you back in March: > > >> FIle Prep Charge $15 >> 13 oz Vinyl Banner 3' x 6' with 6 grommets $88 >> Digital Printing (no color match charges and may be as many colors as we >> want) >> Package to ship UPS ground $17 (their time >> and materials to prepare for shipping) >> Shipping >> $20(estimated) >> Tax $10 >> Total$150 >> >> Additional Charges if not camera ready: >> Workstation time 1/2 hour - place logo, set text, add color as needed $70. >> >> Production time is 3-5 working days >> > > We have actually done a banner with them for Six Feet Up and were really > pleased with the result. People who came to the DC party may remember it ;-) > > Thank you, > g > -- > S i x F e e t U p , I n c . | http://www.sixfeetup.com > Phone: +1 (317) 861-5948 x601 > gabrie...@sixfeetup.com > ANNOUNCING the first Plone Immersive Training Experience | Sept. 10-11-12, > 2009 > http://www.sixfeetup.com/immerse > > > > > > > > > On Apr 10, 2009, at 12:54 PM, Nate Aune wrote: > > Does someone who's printed banners before know what the expected costs >> are to print a banner with the Plone logo suitable for hanging up at a >> conference booth? >> >> I agree that if it's less expensive to print several at the same time, >> we should print several so we have them on hand and can easily ship >> them (more lightweight than vinyl or canvas) in a tube if for example >> there are two conferences happening at the same time. >> >> thanks, >> Nate >> >> On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 10:58 PM, Gabrielle Hendryx-Parker >> wrote: >> >>> On Apr 8, 2009, at 1:46 AM, Jan Ulrich Hasecke wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> If you can store things I won't print on demand put print a reasonable >>>> amount of copies to have them at hand if required. The price for a copy >>>> shrinks heavily if you print more copies in one process. >>>> >>>> Our experience in Germany is that people order marketing material very >>>> shortly before the event so that printing on demand might be no option >>>> at >>>> all. >>>> >>>> juh >>>> DZUG e.V: >>>> >>> >>> >>> GHP: I totally agree with you, Jan. I think we need to have 3-4 inventory >>> places all over the world to reap the benefits of efficiency, fast >>> turnaround and economies of scale. >>> >>> ___ >>> Evangelism mailing list >>> Evangelism@lists.plone.org >>> http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Nate Aune - na...@jazkarta.com >> http://nateaune.com (personal blog) >> http://jazkarta.com (open source technology solutions) >> http://twitter.com/natea (daily updates) >> > > -- Nate Aune - na...@jazkarta.com http://nateaune.com (personal blog) http://jazkarta.com (open source technology solutions) http://twitter.com/natea (daily updates) ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] Conference kit for hosting a Plone booth
Does someone who's printed banners before know what the expected costs are to print a banner with the Plone logo suitable for hanging up at a conference booth? I agree that if it's less expensive to print several at the same time, we should print several so we have them on hand and can easily ship them (more lightweight than vinyl or canvas) in a tube if for example there are two conferences happening at the same time. thanks, Nate On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 10:58 PM, Gabrielle Hendryx-Parker wrote: > On Apr 8, 2009, at 1:46 AM, Jan Ulrich Hasecke wrote: >> >> If you can store things I won't print on demand put print a reasonable >> amount of copies to have them at hand if required. The price for a copy >> shrinks heavily if you print more copies in one process. >> >> Our experience in Germany is that people order marketing material very >> shortly before the event so that printing on demand might be no option at >> all. >> >> juh >> DZUG e.V: > > > GHP: I totally agree with you, Jan. I think we need to have 3-4 inventory > places all over the world to reap the benefits of efficiency, fast > turnaround and economies of scale. > > ___ > Evangelism mailing list > Evangelism@lists.plone.org > http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism > -- Nate Aune - na...@jazkarta.com http://nateaune.com (personal blog) http://jazkarta.com (open source technology solutions) http://twitter.com/natea (daily updates) ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
[Evangelism] Conference kit for hosting a Plone booth
There have been discussions on the Plone marketing committee list and elsewhere about putting together a conference kit that includes: - banner with Plone logo - brochures and "15 Questions about Plone" FAQ - swag (t-shirts, stickers, books) - screencasts (to loop on video display) We have a number of upcoming conferences at which Plone will have a booth, and it would be great to have a "conference kit" ready that explains how to obtain these materials. - NTEN - http://nten.org/ntc - Internet World - CMS - http://www.cmsexpo.net/ Who would like to help put together this conference kit? In particular, we need to find out whether it makes sense to purchase some vinyl/canvas banners and ship them around the country, or print-on-demand for each conference. thanks, Nate -- Nate Aune - na...@jazkarta.com http://nateaune.com (personal blog) http://jazkarta.com (open source technology solutions) http://twitter.com/natea (daily updates) ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] WPD at Twitter
I think Christian Aka MrTopf has access to this Acct. -- Nate Aune - na...@jazkarta.com http://www.jazkarta.com Sent from my iPhone On Mar 31, 2009, at 5:08 PM, Roberto Allende wrote: Hello Nate noticied there's a WPD account at twitter: http://twitter.com/worldploneday Who's running that ?, could be the logo be updated please ? Once that's done we would link it from http://worldploneday.org kind regards r. -- http://robertoallende.com ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] Evangelism Sprint at PyCon
> > During next week's Pycon, many members of Plone evangelism group are going > to attend the event. So, we're going to be working on a evangelism sprint > and you are invited to join: > http://us.pycon.org/2009/sprints/projects/evangelism when i go to this URL, i get a 404 error. > There's also a Zope & friends sprint, that could be nice to support: > http://us.pycon.org/2009/sprints/projects/zope/ yes, i would like to participate in this sprint, if nothing else to be in the same room as all the Zope gods. Nate -- Nate Aune - na...@jazkarta.com http://nateaune.com (personal blog) http://jazkarta.com (open source technology solutions) http://twitter.com/natea (daily updates) ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
[Evangelism] attending PyCon? Order your World Plone Day t-shirt
In an effort to promote World Plone Day 2009 (http://worldploneday.org) at the upcoming PyCon (http://us.pycon.org) next week, we are ordering t-shirts that PyCon attendees can wear at the conference. If you are going to PyCon and would like to order a t-shirt, please indicate your t-shirt size preference on this form http://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=cE1pRlB2VlpRVHlGNS02eGZEcjhaTlE6MA To see a model, go to: http://extranet.sixfeetup.com/PyCon2009/PyCon2009-Tshirt.html These are Gildan t-shirts (100% cotton) that tend to run small. The t-shirts will be distributed at the conference by Calvin and Clayton from Six Feet Up. Oh, and you must indicate your t-shirt preference ASAP so that we can place the order in time for the t-shirts to be printed and delivered before PyCon! thanks, Nate -- Nate Aune - na...@jazkarta.com http://nateaune.com (personal blog) http://jazkarta.com (open source technology solutions) http://twitter.com/natea (daily updates) ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
[Evangelism] marketing committee meeting minutes
Hello Plone enthusiasts, I'm pleased to announce that the marketing committee has rebooted, and we have a stellar team of talented individuals serving on the committee. We've been meeting every other week by phone/skype, and for those who are interested in what we are doing, here are the minutes from those meetings: http://www.openplans.org/projects/plone-marketing/2009-03-19-minutes http://www.openplans.org/projects/plone-marketing/2009-02-19-minutes Nate -- Nate Aune - na...@jazkarta.com http://nateaune.com (personal blog) http://jazkarta.com (open source technology solutions) http://twitter.com/natea (daily updates) ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] FW: Article on Boagworld.com CMS
Yeah, this is a nice article. Thanks for posting it to the evanglism list Jon. It could be interesting to evaluate Plone in light of these 10 criteria. I suspect that Plone would fare well, and could help to identify other criteria that should be considered when evaluating a CMS system. Nate 2009/3/10 Karl Horak > > Thanks for posting this, Jon. > > Dan, don't be shy. I'm sure you would acquit yourself with honor in any > posting you might make in Plone's defense. Sometimes all it takes is a > simple, "I use Plone and here's why it fits my use-case." > > Karl > > > > Jon Stahl wrote: > > > > -Original Message- > > I did not think it would be appropriate for a newbie like me to comment > > on Plone > > there but thought just in case anyone from the Plone community should > > respond or monitor I would pass it on. > > > > cheers > > Dan > > > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://n2.nabble.com/FW%3A-Article-on-Boagworld.com-CMS-tp2449752p2454540.html > Sent from the Evangelism mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > ___ > Evangelism mailing list > Evangelism@lists.plone.org > http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism > -- Nate Aune - na...@jazkarta.com http://nateaune.com (personal blog) http://jazkarta.com (open source technology solutions) http://twitter.com/natea (daily updates) ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
[Evangelism] conferences where Plone should be represented
>>> Another point is maybe about conferences. There are many Open Source >>> conferences around the world and mostly those are held without Plone (or >>> even Python) participation. I don't know how the Drupal or PHP guys do >>> that in general (of course they are more, that might be an advantage) >>> but they seem to be everywhere. From my experience it's not always top >>> talks but I think being present is the most important part. It also >>> seems they also quite often have some sort of subconference there or >>> some separate track. >>> Not sure how we can make this better but maybe somebody has ideas :-) >> >> Has anyone other important conferences where Plone should be? We could >> take note and have a list managed in our Openplans wiki. > > I started a wiki page with a list of conferences we should be attending, and > I think there's a Google Calendar as well. Here is the Google Calendar: http://www.google.com/calendar/hosted/jazkarta.com/embed?src=plone.org_2k0sm4v9jh926hkajuh96o6mi0%40group.calendar.google.com&ctz=America/New_York If you would like access to add events to this calendar, let me know and I can share it with you. Here is the wiki page which has a list of some events, feel free to add more events to this list. http://www.openplans.org/projects/plone-marketing/conferences-and-events Nate -- Nate Aune - na...@jazkarta.com http://nateaune.com (personal blog) http://jazkarta.com (open source technology solutions) http://twitter.com/natea (daily updates) ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] Plone's Market Share
Don't forget to mention that Plone has had over a million downloads as of July 2007.http://plone.org/news/plone-reaches-1-million-downloads I was in discussions with an editor at O'Reilly a few years ago about writing a Plone book, and supposedly the idea of a Plone book was shot down by Tim O'Reilly himself because he didn't feel that the market was large enough. Which is why having some statistics would be very beneficial, to show that there is in fact a large market for Plone. Nate On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 5:25 PM, Matt Hamilton wrote: > > On 24 Feb 2009, at 21:59, Calvin Hendryx-Parker wrote: > > Hi All, >> >> I finally heard back from the Webcast Producer at O'Reilly Media and they >> need a bit of convincing before they would be willing to move forward with a >> Plone based version of what they did for Drupal last fall. Basically this >> is their question: >> >> "I'm not unwilling to test the waters, but can you give me an idea of what >> you would consider the (Plone) market share to be?" >> >> Where can I find this type of information so we can put together an >> argument about why Plone should even get their coverage? >> > > > I guess its hard to answer exactly what Plone's market share is, as I guess > it depends what you define the market as. I mean, Plone won best non-PHP > Open Source CMS Award from Packt, so I guess it would be fair to say that > it's market share of 'non-php Open Source CMSes' would be pretty large ;) > > 'What percentage of websites run Plone?' would be a tiny tiny percentage if > you are looking at all websites worldwide... then again its probabaly larger > than many commercial CMSes out there. > > These sort of figures are what Karl Horek has been trying to work out on > his Plone Metrics blog http://plonemetrics.blogspot.com/ > > Since Oreilly are big on Open Source... a figure such as 'Plone is in the > top 5% of Open Source projects' or some such would be possibly of use. I > can't remember if that stat is right, or the source... maybe someone else > here can find the actual figure and source. > > -Matt > > > -- > Matt Hamilton ma...@netsight.co.uk > Netsight Internet Solutions, Ltd. Understand. Develop. Deliver > http://www.netsight.co.uk +44 (0)117 9090901 > Web Design | Zope/Plone Development & Consulting | Co-location | Hosting > > > > ___ > Evangelism mailing list > Evangelism@lists.plone.org > http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism > -- Nate Aune - na...@jazkarta.com http://nateaune.com (personal blog) http://jazkarta.com (open source technology solutions) http://twitter.com/natea (daily updates) ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
[Evangelism] Re: FW: INVITE: IBM ECM Spring Regional Usernet meeting
Hi Karl, This is indeed very interesting. I would be curious to hear Roberto's thoughts on this, and if we could help to facilitate monthly user group meetings with some sort of structure like what IBM is doing. That way, we could keep momentum of the local Plone outreach efforts consistent throughout the whole year, and not just for revolving around a single day (World Plone Day). Nate On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 3:05 PM, Horak, Karl wrote: > > Nate, > > Thought you might be interested in what IBM is doing re: CMS marketing. > Their concept of regional user group meetings sounds a lot like WPD if we > had decided to let each geographic area set their own date. > > Karl > > -- > *From:* IBM Enterprise Content Management [mailto: > i...@informationmanagementrequest.com] > *Sent:* Monday, February 23, 2009 12:56 PM > *To:* Horak, Karl > *Subject:* INVITE: IBM ECM Spring Regional Usernet meeting > > [image: IBM] [image: Regional User Group Meetings 2008] > > This year, the local UserNet Boards and IBM's ECM organization have > developed an unprecedented series of localized User Group Meetings for you > to attend. Each event is specifically structured to address your > requirements. > > Each event will include the following educational and networking > activities: > > General Session – Keynote Speakers > Participate in general sessions that feature customers, IBM executives and > your local user group president updating you on local programs. > > Breakout Sessions > We will be confirming the breakout sessions in the next few weeks - so > expect to hear more soon. > > Hands-On Labs > NEW THIS YEAR: There will be hands-on labs around eDiscovery and BPM taking > place in all the locations. > > Exhibit Area > Learn how IBM partners, including solution providers, peripheral providers, > technology alliance partners and system integrators can help you solve your > ECM, BPM and compliance challenges. And, don't miss the IBM ECM Product > Gallery to learn more about our offerings. > > Receptions > Network with your fellow IBM ECM customers, partners, and team members in a > relaxed atmosphere featuring hors d'oeuvres and beverages. > > These events are complimentary. But space is limited so register > today<https://www-950.ibm.com/events/wwe/ecm/ecmruns09.nsf/webcontent/locations?OpenDocument> > ! > > Register online now to attend a User Group Meeting near you. > > <https://www-950.ibm.com/events/wwe/ecm/ecmruns09.nsf/webcontent/locations?OpenDocument>You > will be able to select from 10 locations throughout the country. > -- > » Anaheim, > California<https://www-950.ibm.com/events/wwe/ecm/ecmruns09.nsf/Enrollone?OpenForm&loc=losangeles> > April > 28 > -- > » Atlanta, > Georgia<https://www-950.ibm.com/events/wwe/ecm/ecmruns09.nsf/Enrollone?OpenForm&loc=atlanta> > May > 7-8 > -- > » Austin, > Texas<https://www-950.ibm.com/events/wwe/ecm/ecmruns09.nsf/Enrollone?OpenForm&loc=austin> > April > 23-24 > -- > » Boston, > Massachusetts<https://www-950.ibm.com/events/wwe/ecm/ecmruns09.nsf/Enrollone?OpenForm&loc=boston> > May > 28 > -- > » Chicago, > Illinois<https://www-950.ibm.com/events/wwe/ecm/ecmruns09.nsf/Enrollone?OpenForm&loc=chicago> > April > 14 > -- > » Columbus, > Ohio<https://www-950.ibm.com/events/wwe/ecm/ecmruns09.nsf/Enrollone?OpenForm&loc=columbus> > April > 7 > -- > » Minneapolis, > Minnesota<https://www-950.ibm.com/events/wwe/ecm/ecmruns09.nsf/Enrollone?OpenForm&loc=minneapolis> > May > 19-20 > -- > » New York City, New > York<https://www-950.ibm.com/events/wwe/ecm/ecmruns09.nsf/Enrollone?OpenForm&loc=newyork> > May > 12 > -- > » Seattle, > Washington<https://www-950.ibm.com/events/wwe/ecm/ecmruns09.nsf/Enrollone?OpenForm&loc=seattle> > April > 2 > -- > » Washington, > DC<https://www-950.ibm.com/events/wwe/ecm/ecmruns09.nsf/Enrollone?OpenForm&loc=washingtondc> > April > 16 > -- > > [image: Register > now!]<https://www-950.ibm.com/events/wwe/ecm/ecmruns09.nsf/webcontent/locations?OpenDocument> > > -- > > > IBM Enterprise Content Management, 3565 Harbor Blvd, Costa Mesa, CA 92626 > (c) 200
Re: [Evangelism] proposal for plone awards
for developers to tinker with a few products, themes or > buildouts they may have missed. Give people a simple reason to talk up plone > on their facebook page, their blog, or on twitter. Make '2009 Ploney > finalist' and '2009 Ploney winner' website badges that could generate viral > attention. Make a facebook voting app or badge, etc. Let people solicit > testimonials if they want. Give a reason for a press release, and a > timeframe that generates a little buzz for the conference. > *The fun angle:* > If it's framed as an edutaining display of creative problem solving and not > so much a competition, then this could be a lot of fun. Fun == good. > *The academic angle:* > 3rd party development influences the direction of the crowd. I'd think > there'd be some intrinsic value in having a yearly snapshot of commendable > contributions as a way to diagram the evolution of Plone. > > > Of course, this is a sketch, and experience tells me that semi-competitive > things make some people happy and others very angry. I do think there's a > way to do this that's seen more as cooperative/celebratory than competitive, > & I think that would be the angle to explore. I'd be willing to work on this > if there are a couple more people who think it's worth pursuing. > > What do you think? > > Cheers, > > Matt Fisher > > * > * > > > > ___ > Evangelism mailing list > Evangelism@lists.plone.org > http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism > > > > ___ > Evangelism mailing list > Evangelism@lists.plone.org > http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism > > -- Nate Aune - na...@jazkarta.com http://nateaune.com (personal blog) http://jazkarta.com (open source technology solutions) http://twitter.com/natea (daily updates) ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] April *29*, 2009 WPD ?? (was: April 26, 2009 WPD ??)
April 29 is one day after the NTEN non-profit technology conference (4/26-28), and I know that Jon Stahl (One/NW) and Chris Johnson (from ifPeople) and myself from Jazkarta are all going to be quite busy at the NTEN conference in San Francisco (http://nten.org/ntc), so we would not be available to be in our respective home towns getting ready for the World Plone Day if it were on the 29th. What if we combine it with Earth Day on the 22nd, and make the theme "Using Plone to save Planet Earth", and highlight how Plone conserves natural resources through online collaboration? Doing it the week before we bump into US tax day (4/15) and Easter, so if we're going to do it in April, this seems to be the best week for it. Nate On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 4:37 PM, Ross Patterson wrote: > Fixed the subject. :) > > +1 for 2009-04-29. May 1st is also a religious holiday for some. > > Ross > > Virginia Choy writes: > > > I vote for Wednesday 29 April . > > > > Have a wonderful Christmas and New Year everyone! > > > > On 24/12/2008, at 5:00 AM, "Donna Snow" < > > donnams...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > I still think April 29,2009 is a good date (sorry for original > mix-up). So > > what do you say? 04/29/09 (Wednesday) ?? Or 05/01/09 (Friday)?? > > > > Donna > > > > On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 9:51 AM, Alexander Limi < limi-z4DKO/ > > sx8wnytjvyw6y...@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > > On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 03:19:58 -0800, Calvin Hendryx-Parker < > > cal...@sixfeetup.com> wrote: > > > > On Dec 22, 2008, at 3:37 PM, Virginia Choy wrote: > > > > I think plone week is a great idea as every country has > different > > circumstances. April is good for us in Sydney . > > > > -1 on the week idea from me. I think we will lose the impact > of the > > event if it is too spread out. > > > > -1 from me too — a single day makes it special, a week does not. > And yes, > > there will always be exceptions — it's beer/holiday time > somewhere on the > > planet at all times. ;) > > > > -- > > Alexander Limi · http://limi.net > > > > ___ > > Evangelism mailing list > > Evangelism@lists.plone.org > > http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism > > > > ___ > > Evangelism mailing list > > Evangelism@lists.plone.org > > http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism > > > > ___ > > Evangelism mailing list > > Evangelism@lists.plone.org > > http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism > > > ___ > Evangelism mailing list > Evangelism@lists.plone.org > http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism > -- Nate Aune - na...@jazkarta.com http://nateaune.com (personal blog) http://jazkarta.com (open source technology solutions) http://twitter.com/natea (daily updates) Plone 3 Developer Training in Montreal (Jan. 13-15) http://montrealplonetraining-nateemail.eventbrite.com ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] Postmortem for WPD
-- Nate Aune - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.jazkarta.com On Nov 9, 2008, at 7:30 AM, "Donna Snow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Do we want to schedule a chat session for figuring out what we can do differently for next year? I'd be up for a chat session and could rope Vincenzo into the call too since I'll be at the Bolzano sprint this week. If you have data you want me to capture in a survey or a spreadsheet please feel free to send my way. We have #'s from the eventbrite.com site, a paper sign in sheet, and a surveymonkey.com survey that has responses to your questions. We have a bunch of blog posts and some numbers floating around the web, let's gather them all in one document. If folks have properly tagged them with "worldploneday2008" they should show up at http://technorati.com/tag/worldploneday2008 How many you expected, how many rsvp'd and how many actually showed up.. what you gave away (did you provide food or not) whatever logistics you think will help us plan for next time. We were fortunate to have $100 in food/drink donated by Wingware. They also donated 3 licenses to their WingIDE Pro software as giveaways ($395/each value!) and some really cool balsa airplanes. Thanks Stephan! We had all the attendees compete for prizes (t-shirts and books) with an airplane toss which was a lot of fun. See photos here: For example, I posted on a forum at LinkedIN and received and email from Steve Holden asking why we didn't contact Python Software Foundation (and he blogged about the fact that we didn't contact them) so we need to check into various related organizations that might be interested in participating and document them. Yes, we definitely need to notify the Python and Zope foundations to see if they can help with promotion. We know better for next time. Maybe best if we just do it on Open Plans Wiki?? Yeah, I recommend making a lessons learned from WPD2008 page in the Plone-marketing area on openplans.org. Thanks, Nate Donna ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] Operation Ditch Plone
> 2) More generally, how can we locate and identify frustrated Plone admins > and mitigate any negativity? Can we set up a formal process to track sites > in danger of falling off the Plone wagon? Would it be possible to assign a > POC who could act as a liaison between their admin(s) and Plone tech > support? This is a great idea, but I'm not sure how it would be coordinated. Some sort of "Plone help hotline" where someone directs the frustrated person to an appropriate POC? I look at prominent sites that used to run Plone and have now moved away from Plone, and wonder if they would have stuck with Plone had there been someone to help them with their frustrations. I'm thinking about these sites which moved away from Plone: - Creative Commons - Ubuntu - Oxfam.org Novell.com runs the risk of abandoning Plone unless they can resolve some performance issues they are facing. Here's another one that I stumbled across today: "I'm done with Plone." http://bitubique.com/content/im-done-plone Although a bit dated by now (2005-6), this summary of complaints by Humaninet is very revealing: http://groups.humaninet.org/about/plone-lessons-part-1/ http://groups.humaninet.org/about/plone-lessons-part-2/ I think it would be valuable if the Plone community had a process that > tracks frustrated users and implementers, reach out to them even when they > haven't asked or don't know how to ask for help, give them the TLC they > need, and minimize the consequences of failed Plone projects. Agreed. Do you want to draft such a process? > Some of the input that identifies floundering Plone sites would come from > the technical support lists and channels, but some could come from people > who stumble upon negative blogs and rants on the web. Yes, I know Gerry Kirk, Matt Hamilton, Alex Limi, Calvin Hendrix Parker and myself have been monitoring the Twittersphere, for those who have Tweeted about Plone, but if would be great if there were more folks who would volunteer to do this, not just for Twitter but for the blogosphere. http://search.twitter.com/search?q=plone http://blogsearch.google.com/blogsearch?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=plone&btnG=Search+Blogs http://technorati.com/search/plone?language=en Maybe we could use Tarek's Atomisator [1] or Yahoo Pipes [2] to make an aggregate of these search results, and then folks could take turns monitoring the stream of blog posts and Tweets, and responding to them. [1] http://atomisator.ziade.org/ [2] http://pipes.yahoo.com One of my friends is building a Django app called Tweet and Shout, which is designed for customer service and PR folks and provides a streamlined interface for responding to Tweets about a company's products or services. It's built with jQuery and the entire interface can be controlled with the arrow keys, so you can respond to a lot of Tweets very quickly, even using canned responses. We might also want to consider setting up an account at one of the following sites to provide an easier way for folks to submit feedback (the Trac issue tracker is not very inviting for newbies) http://getsatisfaction.com http://uservoice.com https://launchpad.net/+tour/index I'd appreciate hearing from others about if and/or how we should be > attempting this. I would be interested in helping to come up with a process for monitoring and responding to frustrations voiced by those using or evaluating Plone. Nate -- Nate Aune - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nateaune.com (personal blog) http://jazkarta.com (open source technology solutions) http://twitter.com/natea (daily updates) PondCMS: Fully managed Plone-based CMS solution http://jazkarta.com/products/pondcms ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] Should we be doing things like this?
> Any way we can get in with O'Reilly and do the same to a broader market? > Anyone on here know anybody over there? I was just introduced to Adam Oram who works for O'Reilly Media in Cambridge. http://www.praxagora.com/andyo/ > There are quite a few Python folks who are "in" with them like Noah Gift and > Doug Hellmann. Maybe we can approach them? yeah, if you can contact Noah and Doug, I'll contact Adam at O'Reilly. I'm not sure if he works in the division that coordinates the webcasts, but if not, hopefully he can redirect me to someone who does. Nate -- Nate Aune - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nateaune.com (personal blog) http://jazkarta.com (open source technology solutions) http://twitter.com/natea (daily updates) PondCMS: Fully managed Plone-based CMS solution http://jazkarta.com/products/pondcms ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] Should we be doing things like this?
On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 1:30 PM, Jon Stahl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The Lullabot guys are *awesome* marketers for Drupal and spend a lot of > time and energy doing outreach for the Drupal community. In general, I > think it is wise to emulate their tactics where it is possible. Agreed. They are doing an awesome job of promoting Drupal through their site http://www.lullabot.com/podcast Speaking of Lullabot, Seth Gottlieb just posted a blog entry about an interview of Angela Byron of Lullabot. http://blog.contenthere.net/2008/11/ostatic-interview-of-angela-byron.html She says: "The Drupal project has an unconventional philosophy on backwards compatibility. During each major version of Drupal, developers are highly encouraged to think up crazy new things that Drupal can do, without fear of breaking legacy APIs. While users' data will always be preserved throughout the ages, if we come up with new standards we want to support, or a much better and more performant way of doing something, developers are given free reign to go off in that direction." Some might see this as a positive attitude, but I know if I was loading my company's data into a Drupal CMS, I'd be thinking twice. Nate > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:evangelism- > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Calvin Hendryx-Parker > > Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 7:45 PM > > To: evangelism@lists.plone.org > > Subject: [Evangelism] Should we be doing things like this? > > > > Just caught this in my RSS reader and I have signed up to check it out > > to see how this works. I think it would be something that could be > > pretty effective to get new folks engaged in Plone. > > > > http://oreilly.com/emails/drupal-webcast.html > > > > Cal > > > > -- > > S i x F e e t U p , I n c . | "Nowhere to go but open source" > > Silicon Valley: +1 (650) 401-8579 x602 > > Midwest: +1 (317) 861-5948 x602 > > Toll-Free: 1-866-SIX-FEET > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://www.sixfeetup.com | Zope/Plone Custom Development > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > Evangelism mailing list > > Evangelism@lists.plone.org > > http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism > > ___ > Evangelism mailing list > Evangelism@lists.plone.org > http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism > -- Nate Aune - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nateaune.com (personal blog) http://jazkarta.com (open source technology solutions) http://twitter.com/natea (daily updates) PondCMS: Fully managed Plone-based CMS solution http://jazkarta.com/products/pondcms ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] WPD 2008 Slide Deck Rev 2
Hi Constance, Thanks again for preparing the WPD Slide Deck. I know that it got a lot of good use around the world at the various events. I'm not sure if you saw this blog post, but John DeRosa provides some good constructive criticism for how we could make this slide deck even better. http://seeknuance.com/2008/11/09/world-plone-day-and-better-start-for-a-plone-introductory-talk/ Nate On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 1:55 PM, Constance Kobylarz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Hello, > > I have made changes to the WPD 2008 Slide Deck per the recent > discussions on the list. It is titled "World Plone Day 2008 Slide Deck - > color logos Rev2" > > Today (29 Oct 2008) Plone.net shows 282 providers in 57 countries. I > have changed the WPD 2008 slide deck to show this new number. > > I have added the new book "Plone 3 Through the Web" to Slide 12 with all > of the other books (I deleted the Zope book to conserve space and make > the slide consistent) and changed Slide 11 to show 7 books. > > And I have added a new slide (currently number 2 slide) to show the new > award "Best Other Open Source CMS for 2008" by Pakt Publishing. > > The new presentation is available at: > > http://www.openplans.org/projects/plone-marketing/wpd-slide-deck > > Slideshare is not showing my updated notes. If you download the > presentation, you can see the correct set of notes. > > Cheers, > Constance > > Constance Kobylarz Wilde > Strategy, Marketing, Creative > Aton International, Inc. > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Web: www.aton.com > > > > > > ___ > Evangelism mailing list > Evangelism@lists.plone.org > http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism > -- Nate Aune - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nateaune.com (personal blog) http://jazkarta.com (open source technology solutions) http://twitter.com/natea (daily updates) PondCMS: Fully managed Plone-based CMS solution http://jazkarta.com/products/pondcms ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] Should we be doing things like this?
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 10:45 PM, Calvin Hendryx-Parker < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just caught this in my RSS reader and I have signed up to check it out to > see how this works. I think it would be something that could be pretty > effective to get new folks engaged in Plone. > > http://oreilly.com/emails/drupal-webcast.html +1. The NTEN folks have been doing "Diving into Plone" webcasts and inviting Jon Stahl to present. http://www.nosi.net/projects/webinars/plone These webcasts are specifically targeting non-profit organizations who are considering Plone, but we could start doing them for other industry sectors as well. See the webinar slides from Jon's presentation on "Plone for Non-Profits". http://www.nten.org/uploads/Plone_NTEN_2008.pdf Nate -- Nate Aune - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nateaune.com (personal blog) http://jazkarta.com (open source technology solutions) http://twitter.com/natea (daily updates) PondCMS: Fully managed Plone-based CMS solution http://jazkarta.com/products/pondcms ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] World Plone Day 2008
> Along those lines (and I've seen it suggested elsewhere in the Plone > marketing notes), we should have an elevator speech for each > sector-specific > category--business, education, science, government, NGOs, etc. In most > cases I just linked to the appropriate support forum. We did come up with elevator speeches at the Plone Strategic Planning Summit and documented them here: http://www.openplans.org/projects/plone-marketing/elevatorpitch http://www.openplans.org/projects/plone-strategic-planning/lists/plone-strategic-planning-discussion/archive/2008/02/1202517910714/forum_view#1202518698975 Plonegov.org is a great example of what we should aspire to for each of > these sectors. Yes, we have the domain names ploneedu.org and plonengo.org and are just waiting for someone like Xavier to step up and be the champion for those sectors, and shepherd the creation of a community like he has done with http://PloneGov.org. Remember, Plone is a "doacracy", so if you want to see something happen, step up and volunteer to make it happen! Nate > > > Your other edits are all well considered and I would recommend anyone using > this release to make those changes. Some of the improvements you suggest > are to text copied directly from plone.org. I suggest that the marketing > community look into reflecting those enhancements back into the core > material. > > I, too, am not one who writes press releases and in fact don't have a clear > idea of what the next step is. Hopefully Nate or Mark or someone else > knowledgeable will come to our rescue. :-) > > Cheers, > > Karl > > > Graham Perrin wrote: > > > > Hi ... suggestions in sticky notes at > > <http://www.diigo.com/annotated/9fdb698e2696b74ab86f2c4468a316a7>. > > > > Where I have highlighted the numbers, some of the numbers below 100 might > > expressed as words, so for example > > > >> Forty of the sixty-one > > > > but for sure, the grammatical rules may vary from country to country etc. > > so that's a very minor point. > > > > I don't do press releases but to me it does read nicely :) > > > > Kind regards > > Graham > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://n2.nabble.com/World-Plone-Day-2008-tp1487270p1507850.html > Sent from the Evangelism mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > ___ > Evangelism mailing list > Evangelism@lists.plone.org > http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism > -- Nate Aune - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nateaune.com (personal blog) http://jazkarta.com (open source technology solutions) http://twitter.com/natea (daily updates) PondCMS: Fully managed Plone-based CMS solution http://jazkarta.com/products/pondcms ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] World Plone Day 2008
> I, too, am not one who writes press releases and in fact don't have a clear > idea of what the next step is. Hopefully Nate or Mark or someone else > knowledgeable will come to our rescue. :-) I'm not the most knowledgeable about writing press releases either, but I'm cc'ing Mark, Virginia and Constance on this email in hopes that they can look it over and provide some suggestions. http://www.diigo.com/annotated/9fdb698e2696b74ab86f2c4468a316a7 I agree we should get this out soon as it's been almost a month since the event. I sent out another request to the WPD organizers asking them to update the spreadsheet with the numbers, so hopefully we'll get an accurate count of the worldwide attendance and can include that in the news announcement / press release. thanks, Nate Graham Perrin wrote: > > > > Hi ... suggestions in sticky notes at > > <http://www.diigo.com/annotated/9fdb698e2696b74ab86f2c4468a316a7>. > > > > Where I have highlighted the numbers, some of the numbers below 100 might > > expressed as words, so for example > > > >> Forty of the sixty-one > > > > but for sure, the grammatical rules may vary from country to country etc. > > so that's a very minor point. > > > > I don't do press releases but to me it does read nicely :) > > > > Kind regards > > Graham > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://n2.nabble.com/World-Plone-Day-2008-tp1487270p1507850.html > Sent from the Evangelism mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > ___ > Evangelism mailing list > Evangelism@lists.plone.org > http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism > -- Nate Aune - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nateaune.com (personal blog) http://jazkarta.com (open source technology solutions) http://twitter.com/natea (daily updates) PondCMS: Fully managed Plone-based CMS solution http://jazkarta.com/products/pondcms ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] World Plone Day 2008
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 7:32 PM, Karl Horak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >From the results piling in at > http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=py-ZRibpWMZXMgI9P-XXweg&hl=en, it > looks like 835 attendees were reported at 33 venues. Extrapolating to the > 60 pre-registered venues, we may have had over 1500 attendees world-wide. > Brasilia, Brazil is still top of the chart with 128 attendees. I'll be sending out an email to all the WPD organizers who have not yet filled out the form at http://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?key=py-ZRibpWMZXMgI9P-XXweg For future WPD data collection, we might want to provide a form similar to what was requested after the Software Freedom Day event. http://cgi.softwarefreedomday.org/event_report.html We could also make a "planet" page that aggregates all blog posts about the WPD. I think someone already tried to make something like this with Yahoo Pipes. See the Software Freedom Day planet page: http://planet.softwarefreedomday.org/ Nate -- Nate Aune - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nateaune.com (personal blog) http://jazkarta.com (open source technology solutions) http://twitter.com/natea (daily updates) PondCMS: Fully managed Plone-based CMS solution http://jazkarta.com/products/pondcms ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] Postmortem for WPD
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 9:52 AM, Karl Horak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks, Nate. I was not aware of that feature--it looks pretty cool. I'll > be sure to try that the next time I'm requesting info. You can still use the form for a spreadsheet that's already been created. I made one here: http://spreadsheets.google.com/gform?key=py-ZRibpWMZXMgI9P-XXweg#invite Nate > Nate Aune wrote: >> >> Karl - do you know about the forms feature that is new with Google >> Spreadsheets? This might be a more simple and safe way to collect the >> data than having folks edit the raw table cells. >> >> Nate >> >> -- >> Nate Aune - [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> http://www.jazkarta.com >> > > -- > View this message in context: > http://n2.nabble.com/Postmortem-for-WPD-tp1476019p1488858.html > Sent from the Evangelism mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > ___ > Evangelism mailing list > Evangelism@lists.plone.org > http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism > -- Nate Aune - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nateaune.com (personal blog) http://jazkarta.com (open source technology solutions) http://twitter.com/natea (daily updates) PondCMS: Fully managed Plone-based CMS solution http://jazkarta.com/products/pondcms ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] Postmortem for WPD
On Nov 9, 2008, at 7:30 AM, "Donna Snow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Do we want to schedule a chat session for figuring out what we can > do differently for next year? I'd be up for a chat session and could rope Vincenzo into the call too since I'll be at the Bolzano sprint this week. > If you have data you want me to capture in a survey or a spreadsheet > please feel free to send my way. We have #'s from the eventbrite.com site, a paper sign in sheet, and a surveymonkey.com survey that has responses to your questions. > We have a bunch of blog posts and some numbers floating around the > web, let's gather them all in one document. If folks have properly tagged them with "worldploneday2008" they should show up at http://technorati.com/tag/worldploneday2008 > How many you expected, how many rsvp'd and how many actually showed > up.. what you gave away (did you provide food or not) whatever > logistics you think will help > us plan for next time. We were fortunate to have $100 in food/drink donated by Wingware. They also donated 3 licenses to their WingIDE Pro software as giveaways ($395/each value!) and some really cool balsa airplanes. Thanks Stephan! We had all the attendees compete for prizes (t-shirts and books) with an airplane toss which was a lot of fun. See photos here: http://flickr.com/photos/tats/3011735820/in/set-72157608746461707/ > For example, I posted on a forum at LinkedIN and received and email > from Steve Holden asking why we didn't contact Python Software > Foundation (and he blogged about the fact that we didn't contact > them) so we need to check into various related organizations that > might be interested in participating and document them. Yes, we definitely need to notify the Python and Zope foundations to see if they can help with promotion. We know better for next time. > Maybe best if we just do it on Open Plans Wiki?? Yeah, I recommend making a lessons learned from WPD2008 page in the Plone-marketing area on openplans.org. Thanks, Nate ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
[Evangelism] Fwd: World Plone Day 2008 Tokyo
On Nov 8, 2008, at 6:29 PM, Jonathan Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I've posted a 12-minute video containing audio interviews and photos of the World Plone Day 2008 event held at Hitotsubashi University in Tokyo. http://blip.tv/file/1445629 Nice video! I like the audio podcast format with complementary photo slideshow. (I've submitted it to plone.tv so it will show up there too if accepted). Yup, I published it and also added the tag "worldploneday2008". If you have video to share please add it to Plone.tv and tag it with that. Then I'll make a collection to aggregate all the WPD videos. Nate With thanks to all the organizers and participants, Jonathan Lewis Hitotsubashi University ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] Postmortem for WPD
Karl - do you know about the forms feature that is new with Google Spreadsheets? This might be a more simple and safe way to collect the data than having folks edit the raw table cells. Nate -- Nate Aune - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.jazkarta.com On Nov 9, 2008, at 1:11 PM, Karl Horak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I just put a http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=py-ZRibpWMZXMgI9P-XXweg spreadsheet up on Google Docs with the listing of participating cities and requesting number of attendees, number of presenters/hosts, any notes of interest, and the other columns Donna suggested. If you hosted a WPD event, kindly hop over and enter your stats. When this gets filled in, we should move the info over to the Open Plans pages. Thanks in advance Donna Snow (SnowWrite)-2 wrote: If you have data you want me to capture in a survey or a spreadsheet please feel free to send my way. How many you expected, how many rsvp'd and how many actually showed up.. what you gave away (did you provide food or not) whatever logistics you think will help us plan for next time. Maybe best if we just do it on Open Plans Wiki?? Donna -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Postmortem-for-WPD-tp1476019p1477112.html Sent from the Evangelism mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] Google Earth simulation of "flying" to all World Plone Day locations
-- Nate Aune - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.jazkarta.com On Nov 7, 2008, at 4:11 PM, "Mark A Corum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Nate: Any chance you have the information about the Plone Day events in a spreadsheet? No, but maybe Roberto or Donna has it. Karl set up a spreadsheet so hopefully we can collect this info there, or input it from the original list. Nate Mark Mark A Corum IM -- markcorum on AOL, MSN, Skype, Meebo and Yahoo; Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Light up the darkness." - Bob Marley "Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?" (Who watches the watchmen?) - Juvenales, Satires On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 9:34 AM, Nate Aune <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I thought it would be cool to show a Google Map of all the World Plone Day locations around the world, so I started manually typing them in and adding them to this map: http://tinyurl.com/world-plone-day-map This proved to be quite tedious so I've opened up the map for collaboration, so that *anyone* can add locations to it. If you are hosting a WPD event, please add your location so your city will be included on the map. Then I thought it would be even cooler if we could "fly" around to the various World Plone Day locations using Google Earth. Noticing that this page provides an RSS feed of all the WPD locations (http://plone.org/events/wpd/2008/wpd), I googled for "rss to kml" and sure enough, there was a utility to convert the RSS feed to a KML file which can be opened by Google Earth. Open this file in Google Earth: http://idisk.mac.com/nateaune-Public/world-plone-day-locations.kml If you want to do this yourself, here are the instructions: 1) Go to this page: http://www.geonames.org/rss-to-georss-converter.html 2) Scroll down to the bottom of this page, and paste in the URL: http://plone.org/events/wpd/2008/wpd/RSS to the "Rss to KML (GoogleEarth) Converter" form. The resulting file can be renamed to have a .kml extension, so that you can double-click it to open up in Google Earth. 3) In the Places pane, navigate to Temporary Places -> world-plone-day-locations.kml -> World Plone Day 4) Click on the folder 5) Click on the play button to start flying around the world! For some reason, the KML file contains only the first several locations (up to Córdoba, Argentina). I'm wondering if it's not unicode-friendly, and choking on the ó character in Córdoba. Anyways, it's pretty interesting to fly around to these places, and makes a great intro as people are arriving at your WPD location, or during a break. Have fun! Nate -- Nate Aune - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nateaune.com (personal blog) http://jazkarta.com (open source technology solutions) http://twitter.com/natea (daily updates) PondCMS: Fully managed Plone-based CMS solution http://jazkarta.com/products/pondcms ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] Following LinkedIn forums
-- Nate Aune - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.jazkarta.com On Nov 8, 2008, at 8:15 PM, "Donna Snow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm on a mission it seems :-) fire under my butt to get the word out about Plone (especially locally) I went looking on some of the forums for groups I've joined on LinkedIn and found this question and responded. http://tinyurl.com/5hzpv3 Let's keep our eyes out for opportunities to talk about Plone (just like checking for negative comments/issues) we should also be looking for opportunities to tell as many people as possible. I know Matt Hamilton, Gerry Kirk and others are already doing this on Twitter. The Tweetdeck app for OSX makes this easy as you can have a pane of all tweets that contain the keyword "Plone". Getsatisfaction.com also provides an "overheard" monitoring feature to tell you where your users/customers are talking about you and provides a way to track these conversations. Nate Donna ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] Lessons learned from the first World Plone Day
-- Nate Aune - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.jazkarta.com On Nov 9, 2008, at 1:31 PM, Karl Horak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Donna, Consider connecting with computer science faculty at a local community college. They often have free access to unscheduled facilities when the general public does not. Partnering with faculty can also drive up interest with students. As an adjunct professor at the College of Santa Fe, I have free use of a mega-classroom (~125 seats) and four 20-seat computer labs, all with projection equipment. CSF-Albuquerque focuses on evening and weekend classes, so daytime use is easily worked out. Then again, I may be incredibly fortunate to have such a cool benefit from CSF. (BTW, look for an ABQ Sprint next year to take advantage of CSF space as well.) Great! Maybe we could organize a marketing sprint? Also, some public libraries have available public meeting space for groups your size. Yes, after several unsuccessful attempts to find space in Boston, we found a library just around the corner which had a multipurpose room that could seat 100. And it was free! So definitely check with the libraries in your area as they often have these facilities available for public use at no cost. Nate Best of luck, Karl Donna Snow (SnowWrite)-2 wrote: The event was expensive for me (nearly $1,000 when all was said and done). It's difficult to find free space in this area. Google wasn't willing to provide a space and most universities I contacted (believe it or not) wanted to charge an hourly rate for the event. The other thing I realized is we (the Plonista's in this area) really need to get out there and promote the living daylights out of Plone. We are not as "Plone" friendly in this area (unlike some of our European counterparts). So next year we start earlier and I try harder to find a location that is free (or very low cost). -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Lessons-learned-from-the-first-World-Plone-Day-tp1471191p1477147.html Sent from the Evangelism mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
[Evangelism] Google Earth simulation of "flying" to all World Plone Day locations
I thought it would be cool to show a Google Map of all the World Plone Day locations around the world, so I started manually typing them in and adding them to this map: http://tinyurl.com/world-plone-day-map This proved to be quite tedious so I've opened up the map for collaboration, so that *anyone* can add locations to it. If you are hosting a WPD event, please add your location so your city will be included on the map. Then I thought it would be even cooler if we could "fly" around to the various World Plone Day locations using Google Earth. Noticing that this page provides an RSS feed of all the WPD locations (http://plone.org/events/wpd/2008/wpd), I googled for "rss to kml" and sure enough, there was a utility to convert the RSS feed to a KML file which can be opened by Google Earth. Open this file in Google Earth: http://idisk.mac.com/nateaune-Public/world-plone-day-locations.kml If you want to do this yourself, here are the instructions: 1) Go to this page: http://www.geonames.org/rss-to-georss-converter.html 2) Scroll down to the bottom of this page, and paste in the URL: http://plone.org/events/wpd/2008/wpd/RSS to the "Rss to KML (GoogleEarth) Converter" form. The resulting file can be renamed to have a .kml extension, so that you can double-click it to open up in Google Earth. 3) In the Places pane, navigate to Temporary Places -> world-plone-day-locations.kml -> World Plone Day 4) Click on the folder 5) Click on the play button to start flying around the world! For some reason, the KML file contains only the first several locations (up to Córdoba, Argentina). I'm wondering if it's not unicode-friendly, and choking on the ó character in Córdoba. Anyways, it's pretty interesting to fly around to these places, and makes a great intro as people are arriving at your WPD location, or during a break. Have fun! Nate -- Nate Aune - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nateaune.com (personal blog) http://jazkarta.com (open source technology solutions) http://twitter.com/natea (daily updates) PondCMS: Fully managed Plone-based CMS solution http://jazkarta.com/products/pondcms ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
[Evangelism] #worldploneday IRC channel / Twitter / Live video
I don't know if this has been mentioned already, but I suggest that we use the following IRC channel on irc.freenode.net tomorrow: #worldploneday irc://irc.freenode.net/worldploneday don't forget to follow @worldploneday on Twitter.com as that will also be a source of information throughout the day. http://twitter.com/worldploneday tune into live video broadcasts of WPD events around the world at: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/world-plone-day Nate -- Nate Aune - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nateaune.com (personal blog) http://jazkarta.com (open source technology solutions) http://twitter.com/natea (daily updates) PondCMS: Fully managed Plone-based CMS solution http://jazkarta.com/products/pondcms ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
[Evangelism] Broadcasting *and* recording with uStream.tv on WPD
> Done. Here is the URL: > http://www.ustream.tv/channel/new-york-city---world-plone-day-2008 Ok, I added your broadcast to the WPD main broadcast page: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/world-plone-day > Let me know which button to press in order to start broadcasting. Here are the instructions to broadcast and record: 1) Go to your show page 2) Press the "Broadcast now" button 3) When the Broadcast console starts up, press the "Start broadcast" and the "Start record" buttons. By pressing the record button, you will make a recording that can be watched later after the event is over. That's it! If all goes well, it should start broadcasting and recording your show. Open up another browser and go to your show page to confirm that it is indeed streaming the video. Other things you can do: 1) Add an "Overlay" with a link to your WPD web page for viewers who want more info 2) Create a poll for your viewers to answer. 3) Send a message to Twitter to let folks know you are broadcasting. Be sure to use @worldploneday so that we can re-tweet it out to the folks who are followign @worldploneday. 4) Take questions from those who couldn't physically attend the event, using the chat window. Notice that this is just an IRC channel so you can use your favorite IRC client to follow the conversation. Have fun! Nate > > From: Nate Aune <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2008 9:12:54 PM > Subject: Re: [Evangelism] New York City: WPD Agenda > > make a new show "New York City - World Plone Day 2008" and I'll add > your show to the list of "partner shows" for the World Plone Day > broadcast. > > all you need to broadcast is a computer with a webcam and an internet > connection. your browser must have Flash installed. that's it. > > Nate > > On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 8:37 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hey Nate, >> >> Sure, i just signed in as 'jankarloz'. >> >> How we can we broadcast? >> >> cheers, >> >> JC >> >> >> Juan Carlos Leon >> >> ---- >> The only thing necessary >> for the triumph of evil >> is for good men to do nothing. >> >> -- Edmund Burke >> >> >> >> From: Nate Aune <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Cc: "evangelism@lists.plone.org" >> Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2008 7:49:16 PM >> Subject: Re: [Evangelism] New York City: WPD Agenda >> >> Hi Jan, >> >> do you want to participate in the WPD videocast? Our sessions in >> Boston are all in the afternoon but we could stream yours in the >> morning. http://www.ustream.tv/channel/world-plone-day >> >> If you sign up on uStream.tv, we can add NYC as a partner show. >> >> Nate >> >> On 11/6/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Hello folks, >>> >>> This is our NYC agenda. If anybody is in the area and would like to give >>> a >>> talk/session after 1:30 pm please let me know. >>> >>> >>> 8:30-9:30 >>> Refreshments >>> >>> >>> 9:30-10:30 keynote: >>> "New York (magazine) and Plone" >>> Chris Warner >>> >>> >>> 10:30-11:30 >>> "What is Plone? >>> Robert Burgoyne >>> >>> >>> 11:30-12:30 >>> "Plone as a CMS for Hunter College" >>> Lisa Decker, Clarence Feng, Jacob Radford >>> >>> >>> 12:30-1:30 >>> "Skinning a Plone Website" >>> Rafael Nunez >>> >>> >>> >>> 1:30 >>> Lunch ( wraps provided by hunter) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Join us for drinks after 5:00 pm at: >>> >>> Phoenix Park >>> 206 E 67th St, NY, NY 10065 >>> Between 2nd & 3rd Ave. >>> >>> Directions: Map >>> >>> >>> http://plonenyc.org >>> >>> >>> JC >> >> >> -- >> Nate Aune - [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> http://nateaune.com (personal blog) >> http://jazkarta.com (open source technology solutions) >> http://twitter.com/natea (daily updates) >> >> PondCMS: Fully managed Plone-based CMS solution >> http://jazkarta.com/products/pondcms >> > > > > -- > Nate Aune - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://nateaune.com (personal blog) > http://jazkarta.com (open source technology solutions) > http://twitter.com/natea (daily updates) > > PondCMS: Fully managed Plone-based CMS solution > http://jazkarta.com/products/pondcms > -- Nate Aune - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nateaune.com (personal blog) http://jazkarta.com (open source technology solutions) http://twitter.com/natea (daily updates) PondCMS: Fully managed Plone-based CMS solution http://jazkarta.com/products/pondcms ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] First WPD event was a blazing success!
>> Great to hear that your WPD event was a success! For those who gave >> the talks, do you think you could get their PDF/PPT files and upload >> them to Slideshare.net and tag with "worldploneday2008"? that way, we >> can get a large archive of Plone presentations that were presented all >> around the world in one easily accessible place. > > Ok, we'll get in touch with the organisations involved and see if we can > get their permission to chuck these up. Great! I don't suppose you recorded any of the talks on uStream.tv? For those of you who are streaming live video tomorrow on uStream, don't forget to press the "Record" button in addition to the "Broadcast" button. That way, we'll not only be able to watch it live, but also watch it on-demand afterwards. thanks, Nate >> That goes for everyone else too - if you are organizing a WPD event, >> please remember to get the slides from your presenters, or ask them to >> upload them to slideshare.net themselves. >> >> This is very useful as you can see from the slides collected from the >> Plone Conference 2008 in DC, and 2008 in Naples. >> http://www.slideshare.net/tag/ploneconf2008 >> http://www.slideshare.net/tag/ploneconf2007 >> >> thanks, >> Nate >> >> On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 8:41 PM, Tim Knapp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > Hi all, >> > >> > Just so you all know, we just had our first WPD Plone Day event (in the >> > world) in Wellington, New Zealand and about 31 people turned out, we had >> > 6 presenters[1] and a grand old time. >> > >> > Thanks again all involved and to the WPD worldwide team! >> > >> > Regards, >> > Tim >> > >> > [1] http://plone.org/events/wpd/2008/wlg >> > >> > >> > ___ >> > Evangelism mailing list >> > Evangelism@lists.plone.org >> > http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism >> > >> >> >> > > > ___ > Evangelism mailing list > Evangelism@lists.plone.org > http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism > -- Nate Aune - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nateaune.com (personal blog) http://jazkarta.com (open source technology solutions) http://twitter.com/natea (daily updates) PondCMS: Fully managed Plone-based CMS solution http://jazkarta.com/products/pondcms ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] First WPD event was a blazing success!
Hi Tim, Great to hear that your WPD event was a success! For those who gave the talks, do you think you could get their PDF/PPT files and upload them to Slideshare.net and tag with "worldploneday2008"? that way, we can get a large archive of Plone presentations that were presented all around the world in one easily accessible place. That goes for everyone else too - if you are organizing a WPD event, please remember to get the slides from your presenters, or ask them to upload them to slideshare.net themselves. This is very useful as you can see from the slides collected from the Plone Conference 2008 in DC, and 2008 in Naples. http://www.slideshare.net/tag/ploneconf2008 http://www.slideshare.net/tag/ploneconf2007 thanks, Nate On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 8:41 PM, Tim Knapp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > > Just so you all know, we just had our first WPD Plone Day event (in the > world) in Wellington, New Zealand and about 31 people turned out, we had > 6 presenters[1] and a grand old time. > > Thanks again all involved and to the WPD worldwide team! > > Regards, > Tim > > [1] http://plone.org/events/wpd/2008/wlg > > > ___ > Evangelism mailing list > Evangelism@lists.plone.org > http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism > -- Nate Aune - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nateaune.com (personal blog) http://jazkarta.com (open source technology solutions) http://twitter.com/natea (daily updates) PondCMS: Fully managed Plone-based CMS solution http://jazkarta.com/products/pondcms ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
[Evangelism] agenda for Boston WPD
Here is the agenda for the Boston World Plone Day (http://bostonplone.org)... -- Forwarded message -- From: Sally Kleinfeldt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 8:29 AM Subject: agenda for WPD To: Sid Koul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Nate Aune <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tatsu Ikeda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Here is the final agenda, I just noticed it is incorrect on the Meetup site FWIW - maybe elsewhere too. 12:30 - Setup, greetings 1:00 - Introduction to Plone (Nate Aune, Jazkarta) - Plone and Salesforce for Nonprofits and Small Businesses (Nate Aune, Jazkarta) 1:20 - Case Study: Grantmaking with Plone - Business Process, Workflow, Security and Context Sensitive Help Systems (Michael Trachtman, Vercadia Systems) 1:40 - Making Great Websites with Plone (Tatsu Ikeda, The Tatsu Co.) 2:00 - Case Study: Garden in the Woods (Sid Koul, New England Wildflower Society) 2:20 - Plone in Higher Education (Nate Aune and Michael Trachtman) 2:40 - Case Study: Scientific Collaboration with Plone - Sharing Bibliographies, Papers, and Discussions (Sally Kleinfeldt, Jazkarta) 3:00 - Managing Images in Plone (Aaron VanDerlip, Jazkarta) 3:20 - Case Study: Making Maps with Plone (Aaron VanDerlip, Jazkarta) - Case Study: Managing Maps with Plone (Sally Kleinfeldt, Jazkarta) 3:40 - The Business Case for Content Management - Why Plone? (David Crouch, ten24 Web Solutions) 4:00 - Free Culture, Free Software, and Plone (Matt Lee, Free Software Foundation) 4:20 - Genius Bar (or Q&A ask the experts panel) (Nate, Aaron, Sally, Mike, Sid, Tatsu) 5:00 - Refreshments, door prizes 5:30 - Cleanup, adjourn to Betahouse for refreshments 6:00 -- Sally Kleinfeldt - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Open Source Technology Solutions http://jazkarta.com -- Nate Aune - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nateaune.com (personal blog) http://jazkarta.com (open source technology solutions) http://twitter.com/natea (daily updates) PondCMS: Fully managed Plone-based CMS solution http://jazkarta.com/products/pondcms ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] New York City: WPD Agenda
Hi Jan, do you want to participate in the WPD videocast? Our sessions in Boston are all in the afternoon but we could stream yours in the morning. http://www.ustream.tv/channel/world-plone-day If you sign up on uStream.tv, we can add NYC as a partner show. Nate On 11/6/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello folks, > > This is our NYC agenda. If anybody is in the area and would like to give a > talk/session after 1:30 pm please let me know. > > > 8:30-9:30 > Refreshments > > > 9:30-10:30 keynote: > "New York (magazine) and Plone" > Chris Warner > > > 10:30-11:30 > "What is Plone? > Robert Burgoyne > > > 11:30-12:30 > "Plone as a CMS for Hunter College" > Lisa Decker, Clarence Feng, Jacob Radford > > > 12:30-1:30 > "Skinning a Plone Website" > Rafael Nunez > > > > 1:30 > Lunch ( wraps provided by hunter) > > > > > Join us for drinks after 5:00 pm at: > > Phoenix Park > 206 E 67th St, NY, NY 10065 > Between 2nd & 3rd Ave. > > Directions: Map > > > http://plonenyc.org > > > JC -- Nate Aune - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nateaune.com (personal blog) http://jazkarta.com (open source technology solutions) http://twitter.com/natea (daily updates) PondCMS: Fully managed Plone-based CMS solution http://jazkarta.com/products/pondcms ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] Howto: video broadcasting of your World Plone Day event
> I've added a "Sunnyvale, CA - World Plone Day 2008" stream. Can you partner > me? I'm not sure how successful I'll be tomorrow but I'll give it a try. I added Sunnyvale and Toronto so we now have 5 different video streams: Boston Toronto Tokyo Sunnyvale Sao Paulo http://www.ustream.tv/channel/world-plone-day Nate > On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 6:32 PM, Tim Knapp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Nate, >> >> One other thing - I'm on (k)ubuntu and don't think flash on linux >> supports allowing access to your camera. Any thoughts on getting this >> working? >> >> Thanks, >> Tim >> >> On Wed, 2008-11-05 at 21:30 -0500, Nate Aune wrote: >> > On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 8:18 PM, Érico Andrei >> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > 2008/11/5 Gerry Kirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > What would be cool (in my opinion) is a separate >> > broadcast page as part of the WPD section of >> > plone.org, list the broadcast times, who is >> > broadcasting and the topic(s). Takeshi, Erico or Nate, >> > is that content you can put together? >> > >> > +1 >> > >> > Still wondering who has access to edit that area >> > >> > I don't have it. But if someone give me permission I could do >> > it tomorrow. >> > >> > >> > I just gave you mgr access to the WPD section on plone.org, so you >> > should be able to make the broadcast page. I'm wondering if it makes >> > sense to use a Google Calendar (with support for time zones) and then >> > embed the schedule on the Plone page. >> > >> > http://www.google.com/support/calendar/bin/answer.py?answer=41207&topic=15297 >> > >> > >> > >> > Nate >> > >> > >> > 2008/11/5 Érico Andrei >> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > >> > 2008/11/5 Nate Aune <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 12:22 AM, >> > Takeshi Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > > - Broadcasting via ustream.tv >> > >> > I set up a World Plone Day uStream >> > channel at >> > >> > http://www.ustream.tv/channel/world-plone-day >> > and it looks like I can add up to 6 >> > "partner shows" that will appear >> > to the right of the main World Plone >> > Day broadcast. You can see that >> > I've added the World Plone Day Tokyo >> > as a partner show. >> > >> > This is the url of our channel (São Paulo >> > Brazil): >> > >> > >> > http://www.ustream.tv/mybroadcasts/info/sao-paulo-world-plone-day-2008 >> > >> > We will broadcast our event from 11:00 - 20:00 >> > (GMT) >> > >> > >> > uStream also has the possibility of >> > inviting co-hosts, so we could >> > have a "master" broadcast that is >> > showing broadcasts of various cities >> > around the world. These appear in >> > smaller windows within the larger >> > window. >> > >> > Great feature. Nate, are you planning to >> > coordinate this? >> > >> > >> > >> > If you are hosting a WPD in your city, >> > can you please sign up on >> > uStream.tv (it's free) and make a show >> > called "Your City name - World >> > Plone Day 2008" (for example, "Boston >> > - World Plone Day 2008"). >> > >> >
[Evangelism] Google map of all WPD locations
Hi Aaron, I was thinking for the Maps demo at your talk on friday ( http://bostonworldploneday.eventbrite.com/), you could use Jarn's Map project (http://plone.org/products/maps) make a Google Map of all the WPD locations (http://www.openplans.org/projects/plone-marketing/world-plone-day ) The obvious side benefit of doing this is that we could link to this map to show visually the global breadth of activity on World Plone Day. I know this is a lot of data entry, but if you were able to get the base install of the map product posted at http://bostonplone.org, then perhaps we could recruit some people on this evangelism list who would be willing to do the data entry to populate the map with locations. what do you think about this idea? an alternative would be to not use Jarn's Map product and just use the tools that Google provides. But I think that would be a missed opportunity to show this cool Google Map integration within your Plone site. thanks, Nate -- Nate Aune - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nateaune.com (personal blog) http://jazkarta.com (open source technology solutions) http://twitter.com/natea (daily updates) PondCMS: Fully managed Plone-based CMS solution http://jazkarta.com/products/pondcms ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] Howto: video broadcasting of your World Plone Day event
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 8:18 PM, Érico Andrei < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/11/5 Gerry Kirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> What would be cool (in my opinion) is a separate broadcast page as part of >> the WPD section of plone.org, list the broadcast times, who is >> broadcasting and the topic(s). Takeshi, Erico or Nate, is that content you >> can put together? > > > +1 > > >> Still wondering who has access to edit that area > > > I don't have it. But if someone give me permission I could do it tomorrow. > I just gave you mgr access to the WPD section on plone.org, so you should be able to make the broadcast page. I'm wondering if it makes sense to use a Google Calendar (with support for time zones) and then embed the schedule on the Plone page. http://www.google.com/support/calendar/bin/answer.py?answer=41207&topic=15297 Nate > >> >> 2008/11/5 Érico Andrei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >>> 2008/11/5 Nate Aune <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> >>>> On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 12:22 AM, Takeshi Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> wrote: >>>> > - Broadcasting via ustream.tv >>>> >>>> I set up a World Plone Day uStream channel at >>>> http://www.ustream.tv/channel/world-plone-day >>>> and it looks like I can add up to 6 "partner shows" that will appear >>>> to the right of the main World Plone Day broadcast. You can see that >>>> I've added the World Plone Day Tokyo as a partner show. >>> >>> >>> This is the url of our channel (São Paulo Brazil): >>> >>> http://www.ustream.tv/mybroadcasts/info/sao-paulo-world-plone-day-2008 >>> >>> We will broadcast our event from 11:00 - 20:00 (GMT) >>> >>> >>>> uStream also has the possibility of inviting co-hosts, so we could >>>> have a "master" broadcast that is showing broadcasts of various cities >>>> around the world. These appear in smaller windows within the larger >>>> window. >>>> >>> >>> Great feature. Nate, are you planning to coordinate this? >>> >>> >>>> If you are hosting a WPD in your city, can you please sign up on >>>> uStream.tv (it's free) and make a show called "Your City name - World >>>> Plone Day 2008" (for example, "Boston - World Plone Day 2008"). >>>> >>> >>> +1 (Done already) >>> >>> http://www.ustream.tv/mybroadcasts/info/sao-paulo-world-plone-day-2008 >>> >>> >>>> If you have a projector and large screen at your WPD location, you can >>>> broadcast video of World Plone Day taking place all around the world, >>>> and we can even talk to each other. I think this would be an amazing >>>> way to show the global reach of Plone and build a sense of community >>>> that spans across timezones, geographical and cultural boundaries. >>> >>> >>> A common schedule (a google calendar?) would be a good way to coordinate >>> this. >>> >>> regards, >>> ea >>> >>> ___ >>> Evangelism mailing list >>> Evangelism@lists.plone.org >>> http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> blog: http://gerrykirk.net >> daily musings at http://twitter.com/gerrykirk >> > > -- Nate Aune - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nateaune.com (personal blog) http://jazkarta.com (open source technology solutions) http://twitter.com/natea (daily updates) PondCMS: Fully managed Plone-based CMS solution http://jazkarta.com/products/pondcms ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
[Evangelism] Howto: video broadcasting of your World Plone Day event
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 12:22 AM, Takeshi Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - Broadcasting via ustream.tv I set up a World Plone Day uStream channel at http://www.ustream.tv/channel/world-plone-day and it looks like I can add up to 6 "partner shows" that will appear to the right of the main World Plone Day broadcast. You can see that I've added the World Plone Day Tokyo as a partner show. uStream also has the possibility of inviting co-hosts, so we could have a "master" broadcast that is showing broadcasts of various cities around the world. These appear in smaller windows within the larger window. If you are hosting a WPD in your city, can you please sign up on uStream.tv (it's free) and make a show called "Your City name - World Plone Day 2008" (for example, "Boston - World Plone Day 2008"). Then I can add your show as a partner show to the main World Plone Day show page. It is very easy to broadcast your World Plone Day event. All you need is a computer with a webcam (or just use the Mac's built-in iSight camera). You don't need any special equipment and there's no software to download. uStream uses Flash in your browser to access your webcam and microphone. If you do have a firewire camera, uStream can also use that as the video/audio source. The quality will be better than the webcam. If you have a projector and large screen at your WPD location, you can broadcast video of World Plone Day taking place all around the world, and we can even talk to each other. I think this would be an amazing way to show the global reach of Plone and build a sense of community that spans across timezones, geographical and cultural boundaries. Nate > On Nov 5, 2008, at 12:19 PM, Tim Knapp wrote: > >> On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 14:03 -0800, Jon Stahl wrote: >>> >>> Tim- >>> >>> This is a very suitable topic for a News Item on plone.org if you want >>> to write one. :-) >> >> Yeah would love to but won't be until next week unfortunately (i.e. post >> WPD). >> >> Thanks, >> Tim >> >>> >>> best, >>> jon >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:evangelism- >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Knapp >>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 1:18 AM >>>> To: evangelism@lists.plone.org >>>> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; JZUG users ML; >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]; New Zealand Python User Group >>>> Subject: [Evangelism] Plone Asia-Pacific group >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> Just a note that Plone Asia-Pacific is up-and-running and waiting for >>>> members! Thanks to Alex, Xavier, Dylan, Virginia and co (sorry if I >>>> missed you out) we've now got a home[1] on plone.org and a mailing >>>> list[2] for all you Plonistas in Asia-Pacific land. >>>> >>>> Following in the success of Plone ConoSur[3] we've created a focal >>> >>> point >>>> >>>> for those in the Asia-Pacific region to convene, share ideas, and >>>> hopefully create a regional hub to promote Plone in an area that >>> >>> really >>>> >>>> needs help. After all Europe and the Americas is going strong and it >>>> would be good to get some concentrated efforts in AP so that our >>> >>> clients >>>> >>>> (and potential ones) as well as new recruits can feel comfortable that >>>> Plone is a project that is well supported locally. >>>> >>>> So please join up to the mailing list, contribute some content to our >>>> plone.org page and lets grow Plone in AP! (Also, please pass this >>> >>> email >>>> >>>> along to any Plone-related lists/contacts who could be interested in >>>> helping out the effort.) >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Tim >>>> >>>> [1] http://plone.org/countries/asia-pacific >>>> [2] http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/plone-asiapacific >>>> [3] http://plone.org/countries/conosur >>>> >>>> >>>> ___ >>>> Evangelism mailing list >>>> Evangelism@lists.plone.org >>>> http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism >> >> >> ___ >> Evangelism mailing list >> Evangelism@lists.plone.org >> http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism > > > ___ > Evangelism mailing list > Evangelism@lists.plone.org > http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism > -- Nate Aune - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nateaune.com (personal blog) http://jazkarta.com (open source technology solutions) http://twitter.com/natea (daily updates) PondCMS: Fully managed Plone-based CMS solution http://jazkarta.com/products/pondcms ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] Who has control of the Plone product page on Facebook?
hi Gerry, oh, i forgot we had a "fan" page on Facebook. i added you as an admin so you should be able to edit it now. Nate 2008/11/4 Gerry Kirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > http://www.facebook.com/pages/Plone/8385399421?ref=s > > On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 7:37 AM, David Sapiro - Pilot Systems > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Le 3 nov. 08 à 02:56, Gerry Kirk a écrit : >> >>> I can't tell by looking at the page. There is no Admin name. >> >> Any url ? ;) >> >> >> >> Dave >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> David Sapiro - [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Pilot Systems - 9, rue Desargues - 75011 Paris >> Tel : +33 1 44 53 05 55 - http://www.pilotsystems.net >> Hébergement Zope et Plone gratuit - http://www.objectis.org >> >> > > > > -- > blog: http://gerrykirk.net > daily musings at http://twitter.com/gerrykirk > > ___ > Evangelism mailing list > Evangelism@lists.plone.org > http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism > > -- Nate Aune - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nateaune.com (personal blog) http://jazkarta.com (open source technology solutions) http://twitter.com/natea (daily updates) PondCMS: Fully managed Plone-based CMS solution http://jazkarta.com/products/pondcms ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] Who has control of the Plone product page on Facebook?
>> I can't tell by looking at the page. There is no Admin name. > > Any url ? ;) http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2247154032 Sanjay - admin Rose - Officer Nate -- Nate Aune - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nateaune.com (personal blog) http://jazkarta.com (open source technology solutions) http://twitter.com/natea (daily updates) PondCMS: Fully managed Plone-based CMS solution http://jazkarta.com/products/pondcms ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] WPD 2008 Slide Deck Rev 2
Hi Constance, The updated slide deck looks great! Nice job! I have a few suggestions: 1) The Plone logo should maybe be left off the slides that already have graphics, as it seems to compete for attention on those slides, or maybe just move the logo flush right and make it a bit smaller. 2) On slide 6, you might want to say something about Plone working in all major browsers (cross-browser) and that the javascript gracefully degrades for browsers that don't have javascript or CSS enabled. You could also mention that Plone supports OpenID for authentication. 3) On slide 8, you might want to mention that Plone has had very few CVE entries and that Zope is pursuing Common Criteria certification for Zope 3. http://blogs.onenw.org/jon/archives/2006/07/22/plone-and-zope-security/ 4) On slide 10, i think the 50 languages is an overstatement and it's actually something like 35 or so. 5) On slide 12, I would put "how-tos and tutorials" on one line and "on plone.org" on the next line for better readability. 6) On slide 14, it would be more visually interesting to show a world map with pins representing each of the 282 providers. This would really demonstrate Plone's global reach more dramatically than simply a number and some words. Does anyone want to attempt to make such a map? Perhaps using Jarn's Maps product? http://plone.org/products/maps 7) On slide 15, I'm not sure if it's such a good idea to use all those corporate logos without getting expressed written permission first. Many corporate legal depts are have quite strict policies in regards to use of their corporate identity. We should probably play it safe and just list the names of the orgs. Perhaps 3 columns with samples from each sector: edu, ngo, biz The last slide might be a "For more info" slide with helpful links to resources (plone.org, plone.net, plone.tv) and more info about the local Plone user group (if there is one in the area). Nate On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 2:55 PM, Constance Kobylarz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Hello, > > I have made changes to the WPD 2008 Slide Deck per the recent > discussions on the list. It is titled "World Plone Day 2008 Slide Deck - > color logos Rev2" > > Today (29 Oct 2008) Plone.net shows 282 providers in 57 countries. I > have changed the WPD 2008 slide deck to show this new number. > > I have added the new book "Plone 3 Through the Web" to Slide 12 with all > of the other books (I deleted the Zope book to conserve space and make > the slide consistent) and changed Slide 11 to show 7 books. > > And I have added a new slide (currently number 2 slide) to show the new > award "Best Other Open Source CMS for 2008" by Pakt Publishing. > > The new presentation is available at: > > http://www.openplans.org/projects/plone-marketing/wpd-slide-deck > > Slideshare is not showing my updated notes. If you download the > presentation, you can see the correct set of notes. > > Cheers, > Constance > > Constance Kobylarz Wilde > Strategy, Marketing, Creative > Aton International, Inc. > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Web: www.aton.com > > > > > > ___ > Evangelism mailing list > Evangelism@lists.plone.org > http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism > -- Nate Aune - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nateaune.com (personal blog) http://jazkarta.com (open source technology solutions) http://twitter.com/natea (daily updates) PondCMS: Fully managed Plone-based CMS solution http://jazkarta.com/products/pondcms ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] WPD Web2.0 Champion needed
> I can help with this. great! if you hadn't volunteered, i was going to volunteer you anyways. ;) > write a blog post which will appear on Planet Plone outlining a list of ways > people can help spread the word. > > post to FB profile don't forget to post to the Plone group on LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2300 Also, event listing sites such as Eventful.com, Upcoming.org and Zvents.com. You can use http://gigblastr.com to bulk post events to the first two, Twitter, and we're working on Facebook posting. > follow my own advice in 1) > I can post to Digg, have never posted to Slashdot > > Does Plone have a fan page in Facebook? I can't seem to figure out how to > search for one. It wasn't easy to find. The only way I could locate it was by browsing. http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2247154032 > Nate, don't you have a list of media contacts? Does anyone have connections > with prominent bloggers? Maybe we can try blogs like TechCrunch. I met Michael Arrington once but I don't think he remembers me. I know Chris Brogan and could see if he wouldn't mind plugging it on his blog and/or twitter network. > Does anyone have a detailed listing of all the things we should do? No, but this is a great opportunity to make one up. :) I'm cc'ing MrTopf as he has blogged about how to promote Plone the "Web 2.0" way and even given a talk about it. http://dev.comlounge.net/conference/my-presentation-at-the-plone-conference-2007/ Nate > On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 5:39 PM, Roberto Allende <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Hello >> >> If you are not organizing any wpd event or just have some minutes and want >> to contribute with WPD, here is your chance: >> >> We need *urgently* a WPD Web 2.0 spreader. The task consist on spreading >> wpd as much as possible in the www, that includes adding news in sites like >> digg, delicious, twitter, slashdot and many others. Once the news is added >> you have write here asking the community join and support it. >> >> The material is ready: >> We have a press release: http://plone.org/news/wpd-press-release >> And the official WPD site is: http://plone.org/wpd >> >> If you cannot do all the job, but you want to take care doing it in one >> site, just do it! >> >> I strongly believe we've a very successful event already, we just need to >> let the world know! >> >> Kind Regards >> r. >> >> -- >> http://robertoallende.com >> >> >> ___ >> Evangelism mailing list >> Evangelism@lists.plone.org >> http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism > > > > -- > blog: http://gerrykirk.net > daily musings at http://twitter.com/gerrykirk > > ___ > Evangelism mailing list > Evangelism@lists.plone.org > http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism > > -- Nate Aune - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nateaune.com (personal blog) http://jazkarta.com (open source technology solutions) http://twitter.com/natea (daily updates) PondCMS: Fully managed Plone-based CMS solution http://jazkarta.com/products/pondcms ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
[Evangelism] Plone code swarm - 275 code contributors - more than Drupal and Joomla combined
This code swarm is a really cool visualization of the history of the Plone project from the perspective of contributors checking in code to the Plone code repository during the last 8 years. Thanks to Chris Calloway for putting it together and Alex Limi for Tweeting about it. http://twitter.com/limi/status/977015794 Watch the code swarm here: http://www.vimeo.com/2075738 This might make a cool demo to show WPD attendees how Plone is a mature product, has stood the test of time and has more contributors than Drupal and Joomla combined: 275 contributors to Plone - http://www.ohloh.net/projects/plone/contributors 48 contributors to Joomla - http://www.ohloh.net/projects/joomla/contributors 22 contributors to Drupal - http://www.ohloh.net/projects/drupal/contributors 33 contributors to Typo3 - http://www.ohloh.net/projects/typo3/contributors 17 contributors to Wordpress - http://www.ohloh.net/projects/wordpress/contributors 7 contributors to Xoops - http://www.ohloh.net/projects/xoops/contributors Someone want to make up a chart of those #'s and include it with the World Plone Day slide deck? Btw, searching for "CMS" on ohloh.net brings up 513 hits, so it's no wonder people are confused when they have to choose an open source CMS. There are so many choices! http://www.ohloh.net/projects/search?q=cms Nate -- Nate Aune - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nateaune.com (personal blog) http://jazkarta.com (open source technology solutions) http://twitter.com/natea (daily updates) PondCMS: Fully managed Plone-based CMS solution http://jazkarta.com/products/pondcms ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
[Evangelism] Plone wins 2008 Best Other Open Source CMS Award
It was just announced today that Plone won the "Best Other Open Source CMS Award" from Packt Publishing. We should incorporate this into our WPD slidedeck, since it's breaking news and recognition of Plone as a popular CMS. "Other" in this case refers to it being non-PHP. ;) http://www.packtpub.com/article/2008-best-other-open-source-cms-winner-revealed > > The four judges and the public vote put Plone ahead of dotCMS, DotNetNuke, > > Umbraco and mojoPortal in the category that is eligible for non PHP/MySQL > > Content Management Systems. This Award comes with a $2,000 donation from > > Packt Publishing. Thanks to everyone who voted for Plone and helped us win this award! Nate -- Nate Aune - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nateaune.com (personal blog) http://jazkarta.com (open source technology solutions) http://twitter.com/natea (daily updates) PondCMS: Fully managed Plone-based CMS solution http://jazkarta.com/products/pondcms ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
[Evangelism] door prizes at World Plone Day - Plone 3 Through the Web book
We may want to mention in our presentations that a new Plone book is coming out in December that is the result of many authors' hard work. The book is called "Plone 3 Through the Web" and it's available for pre-order on the Packt Publishing website. http://www.packtpub.com/building-plone-websites-through-the-graphical-interface/book One idea would be to raffle this book (as a door prize) to one lucky attendee at your World Plone Day event. You would get their email address and mailing address, and send it to them when the book comes out. People love free stuff! And a percentage of the book sales go to the Plone Foundation, so you're helping Plone when you buy this book. :) This also gives you an opportunity to get the email address of each attendee, and provide an "opt-in" way for them to get more info about Plone. After the WPD, you follow up with them by email or phone, thank them for coming to WPD, and ask if they have any further questions about Plone. Nate -- Nate Aune - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nateaune.com (personal blog) http://jazkarta.com (open source technology solutions) http://twitter.com/natea (daily updates) PondCMS: Fully managed Plone-based CMS solution http://jazkarta.com/products/pondcms ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
[Evangelism] Re: Plone marketing- WPD2008 Slide Deck
>> Maybe "integration" is better than "customization"? > > I think integration is a bit more of a loaded word. I can imagine many > potential customers saying 'but I don't need any integration!'. I really > like the graph, but yes I think we need a way to better show proportions and > what you are getting. I think most of us here would agree that with OSS the > total cost would be lower, so I'm wondering if we might want to not have 50K > for both. The problem then is what *do* we say for both... as we are just > showing example indicative costs of some theoretical project Yeah, both "integration" and "customization" are loaded words. The bottom line is that if you only have $100k to spend on a CMS, a commercial CMS will consume $30-50k in license fees, which means less money available to do more interesting things like training, support and enhancements. I know one large non-profit that chose a commercial intranet solution over Plone because the commercial vendor included everything in the pricing, and the product appeared to do more "out-of-the-box" whereas Plone appeared to require a lot of customization to get it to do what the commercial product was offering. We need better marketing materials to show what Plone is capable of providing out-of-the-box, and how it can be easily extended with 3rd party add-on components. Otherwise, we're going to continue to get reamed by these vendors hawking proprietary CMSes. I've added the Powerpoint and Keynote versions of the two World Plone Day presentations to this page: http://www.openplans.org/projects/plone-marketing/contributed-marketing-materials You have to click on the "View attachments" link at the bottom to see the file attachments. Nate -- Nate Aune - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nateaune.com (personal blog) http://jazkarta.com (open source technology solutions) http://twitter.com/natea (daily updates) PondCMS: Fully managed Plone-based CMS solution http://jazkarta.com/products/pondcms ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
[Evangelism] Re: Sharepoint products and licences
> Yes, sure I'll look after the competitive analysis and round people up, > thanks for setting up the place holders. Great, thanks! I added the two links that I mentioned in my last email to the Plone vs. Sharepoint page http://www.openplans.org/projects/plone-marketing/plone-vs-sharepoint Feel free to add more as you find them. Nate > I made a Competitive Analysis wiki page on the Plone marketing area on > openplans.org, and made placeholders for: > > - Plone vs. Sharepoint > > - Plone vs. Alfresco > > - Plone vs. Drupal > > - Plone vs. Joomla > > - Plone vs. Typo3 > > > > http://www.openplans.org/projects/plone-marketing/competitive-analysis > > > > If anyone is familiar with these other systems and wants to outline the > major pros and cons of these systems, please feel free to update those > pages. We could start by simply linking to articles/blogposts where people > have written about Plone compared to another system. > > > > Virginia - do you want to champion these competitive analysis efforts? You > don't necessarily need to do all the work, but we need someone to take > charge of finding the people to do the work. Ideally, this would be someone > who is intimately familiar with both the other system and Plone so they can > speak authoritatively on the subject. > > > > thanks, > > Nate > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 9:04 PM, Jordan Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I was talking with a Sharepoint implementor yesterday and IIRC you pay for a > couple things: > > - server license - $5k - $50k > - per user cost (yearly I think). this ranges from approx $100-$200 CAD > > Quickly adds up to $30k a year for a 300 person company. But you can also > get other MS products bundled with Sharepoint as well and this makes it a > bit more attractive. > > Its almost a bit of a game trying to find the best bundle for some people. > > I'll try go get a copy of the "bundle" comparisons that were evaluated. > > > Jordan Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] +1 416 871-3810 > Scryent www.scryent.com "clearly open source" > Open Source Consulting - Plone, Python, Linux & more > my blog: http://hexsprite.blogspot.com > > On 14-Oct-08, at 4:37 PM, Matt Hamilton wrote: > > Virginia... you mentioned sharepoint licensing pricing info in the marketing > meeting... > > Have a read of these explanations of the various licencing options for > sharepoint - and then sit scratching you head at just what you need to make > the system actually work. > > I think if we could devise some way of illustrating the madness of this it > would be a really useful device in explaining how simple OSS can be.. > > I'm not sure how wise putting these online is hence emailing them around... > > -Matt > > > -- > Matt Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Netsight Internet Solutions, Ltd. Understand. Develop. Deliver > http://www.netsight.co.uk +44 (0)117 9090901 > Web Design | Zope/Plone Development & Consulting | Co-location | Hosting > > > > > -- > Nate Aune - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://nateaune.com (personal blog) > http://jazkarta.com (open source technology solutions) > http://twitter.com/natea (daily updates) > > PondCMS: Fully managed Plone-based CMS solution > http://jazkarta.com/products/pondcms -- Nate Aune - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nateaune.com (personal blog) http://jazkarta.com (open source technology solutions) http://twitter.com/natea (daily updates) PondCMS: Fully managed Plone-based CMS solution http://jazkarta.com/products/pondcms ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] OSCON 2009 - July 20-24, 2009 in San Francisco, CA
2008/10/19 Donna Snow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > We were actually planning on participating and helping to run a booth. We > are in San Jose. I'm also planning on submitting a presentation for Plone > (PyCon is also coming up as well and the deadline is end of October for > submissions, I think) Great! I added a bunch of conferences at which I think Plone should be represented. Feel free to add others as you see fit. http://www.openplans.org/projects/plone-marketing/conferences-and-events And Limi set up a Google Calendar to which I've added these events. You can subscribe to this iCal feed to stay updated. http://www.google.com/calendar/hosted/jazkarta.com/render?mode=day&date=20081020T062707 thanks, Nate > On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 11:48 AM, Gabrielle Hendryx-Parker > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Hi All: >> >> Is anybody planning on attending the O'Reilly Open Source Conference in >> July 2009? >> >> The 2008 conference was attended by Drupal (see more at >> http://en.oreilly.com/oscon2008/public/content/exhibitors) and Plone really >> ought to be there as well. Maybe we could pool resources and hold a booth? >> Or try and share a booth with another company? >> >> What do you think? >> >> Thanks, >> Gabrielle >> -- >> S i x F e e t U p , I n c . | http://www.sixfeetup.com >> Phone: +1 (317) 861-5948 x601 >> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> REGISTER NOW for the Plone Deployment Workshop | Nov. 20-21, 2008 >> http://www.sixfeetup.com/news/plone-deployment-workshop >> >> >> ___ >> Evangelism mailing list >> Evangelism@lists.plone.org >> http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism > > > ___ > Evangelism mailing list > Evangelism@lists.plone.org > http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism > > -- Nate Aune - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nateaune.com (personal blog) http://jazkarta.com (open source technology solutions) http://twitter.com/natea (daily updates) PondCMS: Fully managed Plone-based CMS solution http://jazkarta.com/products/pondcms ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] Plone replaces Sharepoint, Red Dot and Vignette
> Following Tim Knapp's mail, there are another news published: > > Plone replaces Sharepoint, Red Dot and Vignette > http://tinyurl.com/plone-replaces Great, can you add that to http://plone.net/buzz ? > Is anyone adding these to plone.net ? Not that I know of, but I'm trying to recruit someone to be the Plone buzz champion ;) http://www.openplans.org/projects/plone-marketing/media-coverage Is anyone interested in monitoring Plone in the blogophere and in popular news channels (setting up some Google Alerts for example) and posting relevant media mentions at http://plone.net/buzz ? thanks, Nate -- Nate Aune - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nateaune.com (personal blog) http://jazkarta.com (open source technology solutions) http://twitter.com/natea (daily updates) PondCMS: Fully managed Plone-based CMS solution http://jazkarta.com/products/pondcms ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] Re: Plone statistics
Hi Tim, > We've got a similar idea[1] for World Plone Day, i.e. fill out an online > survey and win 1 of 8 books from PacktPub. Is there any way we could > colloborate on producing the survey? Why don't you start a wiki page in the Plone Marketing area on openplans.org, with some questions that you think should be asked on the survey. Then we can open it up for suggestions and try to put together a list that will become the definitive WPD survey. I agree with Jon that using SurveyMonkey is probably our best best since it's a hosted service and so we don't have to worry about maintaining it. Nate > On Mon, 2008-10-20 at 19:38 -0400, Nate Aune wrote: >> Hi Karl and Matt, >> >> Great talking to you both at the Plone Conference about gathering >> statistics about the size and scope of the Plone community. See this >> recent discussion on plone.user on this subject: >> http://groups.google.com/group/plone-users/browse_thread/thread/efbf35c618f02135/b0f733b1efd846e2?lnk=gst#b0f733b1efd846e2 >> >> > Regarding your Plone Census, that's a great idea. Making direct calls to >> > validate and update Plone.net numbers would be feasible if we > did it by >> > contacting a scientific sample. Then we could at least put error bars on >> > our estimates. >> >> Who would like to volunteer to make these calls to validate the >> numbers? At the marketing session at the sprint, we also discussed >> asking Plone vendors also if they would be willing to be the press >> contact for their particular country/region/language. So we could kill >> two birds with one stone when making these phone calls. >> >> > In a similar but less formal vein, on my blog, I make an attempt to fish >> > out interesting stats and track them over time. For example, I >> > check the Amazon bookrank numbers every quarter. Attached is a >> > spreadsheet in which I'm trying to accumulate values on a wide ? >> > number of parameters relevant to Plone's acceptance, visibility, and >> > programmatic health. Some of the difficult numbers might be >> > easily found by someone with more access to Launchpad numbers. Others are >> > just plain hard-to-get numbers. >> >> Could you post this spreadsheet to the openplans area that I've set up >> for identifying metrics and collecting/analyzing statistics? >> http://www.openplans.org/projects/plone-marketing/metrics-and-statistics >> >> We might also want to make this available as a Google Spreadsheet so >> that others can contribute to it. >> >> Would you be willing to the the team leader for the "Metrics and >> Statistics" marketing working group? >> >> > Also on my blog I've floated the idea of the "Great Backyard Plone Count," >> > to be modeled after the Audubon Society's "Great Backyard > Bird Count." >> > Dedicate a weekend for Plonistas to do informal surveys of Plone use and >> > report in via a website. (BTW, the Audubon >> > Society uses Plone for their annual bird count :-) >> >> Jon Stahl (cc'ed) has used Surveymonkey.com in the past to conduct >> surveys, mostly around the Plone conference 2006 in Seattle. I've also >> used this service and found it to be quite good. We could come up with >> some different surveys to gather statistics about things we would like >> to know about the Plone community. Maybe we could offer a prize to one >> lucky survey responder, and get sponsors to give something away to >> encourage people to fill out the survey. For example, Packt Publishing >> could donate a Plone book. >> >> > Another approach is data mining like Lakomy's estimate of Plone use in >> > England: >> > http://www.llakomy.com/articles/plone-websites-in-uk/) This has promise >> > if we can overcome some of the hurdles he faced, like >> > limitations on search results brought back by Google. >> >> Yes, this is an interesting study and one we should consider doing on >> a more global scale. >> >> Nate >> >> > -Original Message- >> > From: Matt Hamilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > Subject: Plone statistics >> > Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 08:27:31 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from [EMAIL >> > PROTECTED]) >> >> Hiya, >> >>I just saw your stats blog from the Plone Marketing group on Open >> >> Plans. I don't think i got a chance to meet you at Plone Conf this >> >> year, but at the sprint afterwards we
