Re: What is more primary than numbers?

On Monday, December 17, 2018 at 10:34:56 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: > > > > On 12/16/2018 12:58 PM, Jason Resch wrote: > > It's not "my Platonic arithmetic theory" --- This is the a very popular > theory among mathematicians >

Re: What is more primary than numbers?

On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 11:31 PM Bruce Kellett wrote: > On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 4:12 PM Jason Resch wrote: > >> On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 10:54 PM Bruce Kellett >> wrote: >> >>> On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 3:38 PM Jason Resch >>> wrote: >>> On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 12:26 PM Brent Meeker

Re: What is more primary than numbers?

On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 5:42 PM wrote: > On Tuesday, December 18, 2018 at 5:31:06 AM UTC, Bruce wrote: >> >> >> But we are talking about definitions of objects, not axioms of a theory. >> We know that any axiomatic theory will necessarily be incomplete -- there >> will be formulae in the theory

Re: What is more primary than numbers?

On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 4:12 PM Jason Resch wrote: > On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 10:54 PM Bruce Kellett > wrote: > >> On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 3:38 PM Jason Resch wrote: >> >>> On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 12:26 PM Brent Meeker >>> wrote: >>> But mathematical objects are completely defined by

Re: What is more primary than numbers?

On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 10:54 PM Bruce Kellett wrote: > On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 3:38 PM Jason Resch wrote: > >> On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 12:26 PM Brent Meeker >> wrote: >> >>> >>> But mathematical objects are completely defined by their axioms. >>> >> >> Are they? >> >> Two is a mathematical

Re: What is more primary than numbers?

On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 10:46 PM Bruce Kellett wrote: > On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 3:32 PM Jason Resch wrote: > >> >> I have no idea what you mean by "an incorrect computation". >> > > Have you never made an arithmetical error? > > This posits some expectation of a particular result. But in the

Re: What is more primary than numbers?

On 12/17/2018 8:38 PM, Jason Resch wrote: On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 12:26 PM Brent Meeker > wrote: On 12/16/2018 10:46 PM, Jason Resch wrote: On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 12:00 AM Brent Meeker mailto:meeke...@verizon.net>> wrote: On

Re: What is more primary than numbers?

On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 3:38 PM Jason Resch wrote: > On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 12:26 PM Brent Meeker > wrote: > >> >> But mathematical objects are completely defined by their axioms. >> > > Are they? > > Two is a mathematical object. > One of the properties of two is the number of primes it

Re: What is more primary than numbers?

On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 3:32 PM Jason Resch wrote: > > I have no idea what you mean by "an incorrect computation". > Have you never made an arithmetical error? Bruce -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from

Re: What is more primary than numbers?

On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 12:26 PM Brent Meeker wrote: > > > On 12/16/2018 10:46 PM, Jason Resch wrote: > > > > On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 12:00 AM Brent Meeker > wrote: > >> >> >> On 12/16/2018 9:30 PM, Jason Resch wrote: >> >> >> >> On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 9:39 PM Bruce Kellett >> wrote: >> >>>

Re: What is more primary than numbers?

On 12/16/2018 12:58 PM, Jason Resch wrote: It's not "my Platonic arithmetic theory" --- This is the a very popular theory among mathematicians and also the most commonly held ideas in

Re: What is more primary than numbers?

On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 10:03 AM John Clark wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 8:30 AM Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On Sat, Dec 15, 2018 at 11:44 AM Jason Resch >> wrote: >> >> >>> *Pure numbers may not correspond to point in time and space, but their relationships do. * >>> >>> >>> >> Where

Re: What is more primary than numbers?

On 12/17/2018 11:12 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: We would discover that 2+2=3 below the Planck length. The men's tennis doubles team had lunch with the mixed doubles champions.  There were three at table, well above the Planck length. Brent -- You received this message because you are

Re: What is more primary than numbers?

On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 6:15 AM Bruno Marchal wrote: > On 17 Dec 2018, at 08:50, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > > >> What I am curious to know is how how many of these statements you agree >> with: >> >> "2+2 = 4" was true: >> 1. Before I was born >> 2. Before humans formalized axioms and found a

Re: What is more primary than numbers?

On 12/17/2018 11:02 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 17 Dec 2018, at 07:10, Brent Meeker > wrote: On 12/16/2018 9:42 PM, Jason Resch wrote: On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 10:27 PM Brent Meeker > wrote: On 12/16/2018 4:43 PM, Jason

Re: What is more primary than numbers?

On Monday, December 17, 2018 at 8:43:32 PM UTC, Brent wrote: > > > > On 12/17/2018 2:55 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > > Sure. Any argument showing that the primary universe exist would be a > > refutation of Mechanism. That is why we do the test, but they confirm > > that the primary

Re: What is more primary than numbers?

On 12/17/2018 6:09 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: That is not "why" I hold the physical world to be real. I take the physical world to be real because that is the definition of reality. Given by Aristotle in his theology/metaphysics. But that was exactly what Plato was skeptical about. To

Re: What is more primary than numbers?

On 12/17/2018 5:36 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Mathematics has deep relation with theology, no doubt, but is not a religion by itself, unless you add some metaphysical hypothesis. Like arithmetic exists. Brent With mechanism added, the arithmetical truth does get a religious aspect,

Re: What is more primary than numbers?

On 12/17/2018 2:55 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Sure. Any argument showing that the primary universe exist would be a refutation of Mechanism. That is why we do the test, but they confirm that the primary universe do not exist, and actually, they refute already that a primary universe can

Re: What is more primary than numbers?

On Monday, December 17, 2018 at 1:25:27 PM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 17 Dec 2018, at 11:39, Philip Thrift > > wrote: > > > > On Monday, December 17, 2018 at 3:58:36 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> Mathematics is not philosophy. No need to assume a Platonic realm. You >>

Re: What is more primary than numbers?

Did math exist in Dimetrodon brains, or when Mushrooms reached 24 feet tall, as precursors to trees?https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/long-before-trees-overtook-the-land-earth-was-covered-by-giant-mushrooms-13709647/It would then prove that math exists outside a human brain. IF . Some

Re: What is more primary than numbers?

On 12/17/2018 2:16 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Yes, you create a whole theology around not all truths are provable.  But you ignore that what is false is also provable.  Provable is only relative to axioms. I make my theory clear. (Kxy = x; Sxyz = xz(yz), elementary arithmetic). False is not

Re: What is more primary than numbers?

On Monday, December 17, 2018 at 1:12:32 PM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > > What I am curious to know is how how many of these statements you agree > with: > > "2+2 = 4" was true: > 1. Before I was born > 2. Before humans formalized axioms and found a proof of it > 3. Before there were

Re: What is more primary than numbers?

On Monday, December 17, 2018 at 8:10:10 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 16 Dec 2018, at 23:27, Philip Thrift > > wrote: > > > I think https://www.iep.utm.edu/mathfict/ is gaining! > > > Flat Earth also. > > Bruno > > > "Flat" is a Platonic Ideal. :) [

Re: What is more primary than numbers?

> On 17 Dec 2018, at 11:39, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Monday, December 17, 2018 at 3:58:36 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > Mathematics is not philosophy. No need to assume a Platonic realm. You assume > only things like A->(B->A), or x + 0 = x, etc. > > > In the order of things

Re: What is more primary than numbers?

> On 17 Dec 2018, at 08:50, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 5:59 PM Jason Resch > wrote: > On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 12:03 AM Bruce Kellett > wrote: > On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 4:30 PM Jason Resch

Re: What is more primary than numbers?

> On 17 Dec 2018, at 07:59, Jason Resch wrote: > > > > On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 12:03 AM Bruce Kellett > wrote: > On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 4:30 PM Jason Resch > wrote: > On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 9:39 PM Bruce Kellett

Re: What is more primary than numbers?

> On 17 Dec 2018, at 07:10, Brent Meeker wrote: > > > > On 12/16/2018 9:42 PM, Jason Resch wrote: >> >> >> On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 10:27 PM Brent Meeker > > wrote: >> >> >> On 12/16/2018 4:43 PM, Jason Resch wrote: >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 6:02 PM

Re: What is more primary than numbers?

On Monday, December 17, 2018 at 3:45:41 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 15 Dec 2018, at 18:20, Philip Thrift > wrote: On Saturday, December 15, 2018 at 10:44:41 AM UTC-6, Jason wrote:  Kids in school are taught the digits of Pi go on forever. Also known as

Re: What is more primary than numbers?

> On 17 Dec 2018, at 02:21, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 11:36 AM Jason Resch > wrote: > On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 4:14 PM Bruce Kellett > wrote: > On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 9:04 AM Jason Resch

Re: What is more primary than numbers?

On 12/16/2018 11:02 PM, Jason Resch wrote: On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 12:05 AM Brent Meeker > wrote: On 12/16/2018 9:36 PM, Jason Resch wrote: On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 10:22 PM Brent Meeker mailto:meeke...@verizon.net>> wrote: On

Re: What is more primary than numbers?

On 12/16/2018 10:59 PM, Jason Resch wrote: On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 12:03 AM Bruce Kellett > wrote: On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 4:30 PM Jason Resch mailto:jasonre...@gmail.com>> wrote: On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 9:39 PM Bruce Kellett

Re: What is more primary than numbers?

On 12/16/2018 10:46 PM, Jason Resch wrote: On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 12:00 AM Brent Meeker > wrote: On 12/16/2018 9:30 PM, Jason Resch wrote: On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 9:39 PM Bruce Kellett mailto:bhkellet...@gmail.com>> wrote: On Mon, Dec

Re: What is more primary than numbers?

> On 17 Dec 2018, at 01:02, Brent Meeker wrote: > > > > On 12/16/2018 2:04 PM, Jason Resch wrote: >> >> >> On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 4:01 PM Bruce Kellett > > wrote: >> On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 8:56 AM Jason Resch > > wrote: >> On Sun,

Re: What is more primary than numbers?

> On 16 Dec 2018, at 23:53, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Sunday, December 16, 2018 at 10:01:55 PM UTC, Jason wrote: > > > On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 3:39 PM > wrote: > > > On Sunday, December 16, 2018 at 8:58:33 PM UTC, Jason wrote: > > > On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 2:14 PM > wrote:

Re: What is more primary than numbers?

On Monday, December 17, 2018 at 1:47:29 PM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 16 Dec 2018, at 21:14, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Sunday, December 16, 2018 at 2:11:06 AM UTC, Jason wrote: >> >> >> >> On Sat, Dec 15, 2018 at 8:06 PM wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Sunday, December 16, 2018 at

Re: What is more primary than numbers?

On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 8:30 AM Bruno Marchal wrote: > On Sat, Dec 15, 2018 at 11:44 AM Jason Resch wrote: > > > >>> *Pure numbers may not correspond to point in time and space, but >>> their relationships do. * >> >> >> >> Where and when did 2+2=4 happen? > > > *That is a category mistake.* >

Re: What is more primary than numbers?

> On 16 Dec 2018, at 23:27, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Sunday, December 16, 2018 at 3:38:59 PM UTC-6, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > On Sunday, December 16, 2018 at 8:58:33 PM UTC, Jason wrote: > > > On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 2:14 PM > wrote: > > > On Sunday, December 16, 2018 at

Re: What is more primary than numbers?

> On 16 Dec 2018, at 23:14, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 9:04 AM Jason Resch > wrote: > On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 4:01 PM Bruce Kellett > wrote: > On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 8:56 AM Jason Resch

Re: What is more primary than numbers?

> On 16 Dec 2018, at 22:37, Brent Meeker wrote: > > Numbers are an abstraction and generalization from counting. The human conception and discovery of numbers comes from that. But that does not means that the numbers needs the human to exist, no more than galaxies needed Hubble or Hubble

Re: What is more primary than numbers?

On Monday, December 17, 2018, Bruce Kellett wrote: > On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 7:06 PM Jason Resch wrote: > >> On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 1:50 AM Bruce Kellett >> wrote: >> >>> On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 5:59 PM Jason Resch >>> wrote: >>> What I am curious to know is how how many of these

Re: What is more primary than numbers?

> On 16 Dec 2018, at 22:28, Brent Meeker wrote: > > > > On 12/15/2018 10:24 PM, Jason Resch wrote: >> >> >> On Sat, Dec 15, 2018 at 11:35 PM Brent Meeker > > wrote: >> >> >> On 12/15/2018 6:07 PM, Jason Resch wrote: >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Dec 15, 2018 at 7:57

Re: What is more primary than numbers?

> On 16 Dec 2018, at 21:58, Jason Resch wrote: > > > > On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 2:14 PM > wrote: > > > On Sunday, December 16, 2018 at 2:11:06 AM UTC, Jason wrote: > > > On Sat, Dec 15, 2018 at 8:06 PM > wrote: > > > On Sunday, December 16, 2018 at 1:41:08

Re: What is more primary than numbers?

> On 16 Dec 2018, at 21:14, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Sunday, December 16, 2018 at 2:11:06 AM UTC, Jason wrote: > > > On Sat, Dec 15, 2018 at 8:06 PM > wrote: > > > On Sunday, December 16, 2018 at 1:41:08 AM UTC, Jason wrote: > > > On Sat, Dec 15, 2018 at 7:28 PM > wrote:

Re: What is more primary than numbers?

> On 17 Dec 2018, at 11:06, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Monday, December 17, 2018 at 3:45:41 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 15 Dec 2018, at 18:20, Philip Thrift > >> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Saturday, December 15, 2018 at 10:44:41 AM UTC-6, Jason wrote: >> Kids in school are

Re: Towards Conscious AI Systems (a symposium at the AAAI Stanford Spring Symposium 2019)

On Monday, December 17, 2018 at 6:51:19 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 16 Dec 2018, at 19:24, Philip Thrift > > wrote: > > > > On Sunday, December 16, 2018 at 11:27:50 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> > On 15 Dec 2018, at 00:00, Brent Meeker wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> > On

Re: What is more primary than numbers?

> On 16 Dec 2018, at 19:24, John Clark wrote: > > On Sat, Dec 15, 2018 at 11:44 AM Jason Resch > wrote: > > > Pure numbers may not correspond to point in time and space, but their > > relationships do. > > Where and when did 2+2=4 happen? That is a category

Re: Towards Conscious AI Systems (a symposium at the AAAI Stanford Spring Symposium 2019)

> On 16 Dec 2018, at 19:24, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Sunday, December 16, 2018 at 11:27:50 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 15 Dec 2018, at 00:00, Brent Meeker > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > On 12/14/2018 2:59 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >>> On 13 Dec 2018, at 21:24, Brent

Re: What is more primary than numbers?

On Monday, December 17, 2018 at 11:05:31 AM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Monday, December 17, 2018 at 10:54:09 AM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com > wrote: >> >> >> >> On Monday, December 17, 2018 at 1:18:52 AM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sunday, December 16,

Re: What is more primary than numbers?

On Monday, December 17, 2018 at 1:18:52 AM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Sunday, December 16, 2018 at 10:01:18 PM UTC, Bruce wrote: >> >> On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 8:56 AM Jason Resch wrote: >> >>> On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 3:28 PM Brent Meeker >>> wrote: >>> But a system

Re: What is more primary than numbers?

On Monday, December 17, 2018 at 10:54:09 AM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Monday, December 17, 2018 at 1:18:52 AM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On Sunday, December 16, 2018 at 10:01:18 PM UTC, Bruce wrote: >>> >>> On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 8:56 AM Jason Resch wrote: >>>

Re: What is more primary than numbers?

> On 16 Dec 2018, at 10:29, 'scerir' via Everything List > wrote: > > A numerus (literally: "number"i) was the term used for a unit of the Roman > army .. In the Imperial Roman army > (30 BC – 284

Re: What is more primary than numbers?

> On 16 Dec 2018, at 10:29, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Saturday, December 15, 2018 at 7:41:08 PM UTC-6, Jason wrote: > > > On Sat, Dec 15, 2018 at 7:28 PM > wrote: > > > On Saturday, December 15, 2018 at 11:04:55 PM UTC, Jason wrote: > > > On Saturday, December 15, 2018, > wrote: >

Re: What is more primary than numbers?

> On 16 Dec 2018, at 08:34, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Sunday, December 16, 2018 at 5:33:44 AM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > On Sunday, December 16, 2018 at 2:11:06 AM UTC, Jason wrote: > > > On Sat, Dec 15, 2018 at 8:06 PM > wrote: > > > On Sunday, December 16,

Re: What is more primary than numbers?

> On 16 Dec 2018, at 06:33, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Sunday, December 16, 2018 at 2:11:06 AM UTC, Jason wrote: > > > On Sat, Dec 15, 2018 at 8:06 PM > wrote: > > > On Sunday, December 16, 2018 at 1:41:08 AM UTC, Jason wrote: > > > On Sat, Dec 15, 2018 at 7:28 PM > wrote:

Re: What is more primary than numbers?

On Monday, December 17, 2018 at 3:58:36 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > Mathematics is not philosophy. No need to assume a Platonic realm. You > assume only things like A->(B->A), or x + 0 = x, etc. > > In the order of things I assume: 1. I am conscious. 2. Matter is all there is. ...

Re: What is more primary than numbers?

> On 16 Dec 2018, at 03:07, Jason Resch wrote: > > > > On Sat, Dec 15, 2018 at 7:57 PM Brent Meeker > wrote: > > > On 12/15/2018 5:42 PM, Jason Resch wrote: >>> hh, but diophantine equations only need integers, addition, and >>> multiplication, and can define

Re: What is more primary than numbers?

> On 16 Dec 2018, at 02:42, Jason Resch wrote: > > > > On Sat, Dec 15, 2018 at 7:39 PM Brent Meeker > wrote: > > > On 12/15/2018 2:58 PM, Jason Resch wrote: >> >> >> On Saturday, December 15, 2018, Brent Meeker > > wrote: >> >>

Re: What is more primary than numbers?

> On 15 Dec 2018, at 22:28, Brent Meeker wrote: > > > > On 12/15/2018 7:43 AM, Jason Resch wrote: >> >> >> On Sat, Dec 15, 2018 at 1:09 AM Brent Meeker > > wrote: >> >> >> On 12/14/2018 7:31 PM, Jason Resch wrote: >>> On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 8:43 PM Brent

Re: What is more primary than numbers?

On Monday, December 17, 2018 at 3:58:36 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 14 Dec 2018, at 19:41, Philip Thrift > > wrote: > > > But suppose that "mathematics is material”. > > > What could that even mean? > It means (in the approach I like) that *math is fiction,* just as defined in

Re: What is more primary than numbers?

> On 15 Dec 2018, at 10:02, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Friday, December 14, 2018 at 10:36:29 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: > > > On 12/14/2018 10:41 AM, Philip Thrift wrote: > > One type of objection might be that matter is a mystery, but math > > isn't. But I think complexity theorists

Re: What is more primary than numbers?

> On 13 Dec 2018, at 00:57, Brent Meeker wrote: > > > > On 12/12/2018 3:19 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> On 10 Dec 2018, at 20:26, Brent Meeker >> > wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On 12/9/2018 11:38 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: On Sunday, December 9,

Re: What is more primary than numbers?

On Monday, December 17, 2018 at 3:45:41 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 15 Dec 2018, at 18:20, Philip Thrift > > wrote: > > > > On Saturday, December 15, 2018 at 10:44:41 AM UTC-6, Jason wrote: >> >> Kids in school are taught the digits of Pi go on forever. >> > > Also known as

Re: What is more primary than numbers?

> On 11 Dec 2018, at 20:09, Brent Meeker wrote: > > > > On 12/11/2018 10:34 AM, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 12:13:14 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: >> >> >> On 12/9/2018 11:38 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: >>> >>> >>> On Sunday, December 9, 2018 at 8:43:59 PM

Re: What is more primary than numbers?

> On 14 Dec 2018, at 19:41, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Friday, December 14, 2018 at 9:16:58 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > Mathematics is immaterial, but it makes no sense to say it is fiction, unless > deciding that Aristotle is true and Plato is wrong, but I would need some >

Re: What is more primary than numbers?

> On 15 Dec 2018, at 18:20, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Saturday, December 15, 2018 at 10:44:41 AM UTC-6, Jason wrote: > Kids in school are taught the digits of Pi go on forever. > > Also known as religious indoctrination. What ? Incidentally I just answered this on QUORA:

Re: What is more primary than numbers?

On Monday, December 17, 2018 at 2:06:41 AM UTC-6, Jason wrote: > > > > On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 1:50 AM Bruce Kellett > wrote: > >> On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 5:59 PM Jason Resch > > wrote: >> >>> On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 12:03 AM Bruce Kellett >> > wrote: >>> On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 4:30 PM

Re: Where Max Tegmark is really wrong

> On 14 Dec 2018, at 20:50, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Friday, December 14, 2018 at 11:27:05 AM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 13 Dec 2018, at 21:27, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thursday, December 13, 2018 at 6:49:34 PM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> On

Re: What is more primary than numbers?

On Sunday, December 16, 2018 at 5:53:57 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: > > > > On 12/16/2018 1:56 PM, Jason Resch wrote: > > > > On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 3:28 PM Brent Meeker > wrote: > >> >> >> On 12/15/2018 10:24 PM, Jason Resch wrote: >> >> >> >> On Sat, Dec 15, 2018 at 11:35 PM Brent Meeker > >

Re: What is more primary than numbers?

On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 7:06 PM Jason Resch wrote: > On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 1:50 AM Bruce Kellett > wrote: > >> On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 5:59 PM Jason Resch wrote: >> >>> >>> What I am curious to know is how how many of these statements you agree >>> with: >>> >>> "2+2 = 4" was true: >>> 1.

Re: What is more primary than numbers?

On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 1:50 AM Bruce Kellett wrote: > On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 5:59 PM Jason Resch wrote: > >> On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 12:03 AM Bruce Kellett >> wrote: >> >>> On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 4:30 PM Jason Resch >>> wrote: >>> On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 9:39 PM Bruce Kellett