SHIT! Iwouldn't have known this unless John Clark posted an absolutely
redundant announcement about it.
Kim Jones B.Mus GDTL
> On 9 Jan 2022, at 2:45 am, John Clark wrote:
>
>
> Today at 10:28 am EST the last wing of the primary mirror of the Webb
> telescope was
Do you think no one reads the news or something? Have you nothing to do with
your life except regurgitate what everyone already reads about and knows about?
Do you actually believe you are providing some kind of necessary news service?
Kim Jones B.Mus GDTL
> On 6 Jan 2022, at 4:04 am, J
Yes. As some say around here "Everything is the inside view of Nothing". A set
of appearances, as Bruno says. What numbers see - dream - whatever
Kim Jones B.Mus GDTL
> On 9 Mar 2021, at 7:23 pm, Jason Resch wrote:
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 12:57 AM
What was there before there was nothing?
Kim Jones B.Mus GDTL
> On 9 Mar 2021, at 4:35 pm, Jason Resch wrote:
>
>
> I wrote up my thoughts on the question of "Why does anything exist?"
>
> https://alwaysasking.com/why-does-anything-exist/
>
> I thought me
Is this the John Clark special news service? Does John Clark believe that
without his announcement nobody would know about this?
Kim Jones B.Mus GDTL
> On 10 Nov 2020, at 1:14 am, John Clark wrote:
>
>
> Pfizer says COVID-19 vaccine over 90% effective
>
> John K
be HONEST
: change the name to the "Anything List"
Kim Jones B.Mus GDTL
> On 30 Sep 2020, at 10:21 pm, John Clark wrote:
>
>
>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 6:53 PM spudboy100 via Everything List
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Don's peeps are not
be teleported to a different
universe in a pine box?
Kim Jones
> On 22 Mar 2018, at 6:39 am, Brent Meeker <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>> On 3/21/2018 8:40 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
>>
>>> On 20 Mar 2018, at 00:56, Brent Meeker <meeke...@verizon.net&
This is completely off-topic for this list. There are gazillions of discussions
going on about this elswhere
Kim Jones
> On 1 Dec 2017, at 10:05 pm, Lawrence Crowell
> <goldenfieldquaterni...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Everything is easy to predict except the future. Th
> Jun 2017, at 12:15 pm, Bruce Kellett wrote:
>
> That sounds remarkably like the "many minds" interpretation of quantum
> mechanics. This is disfavoured by most scientists because it leaves the
> physics of the billions of years before the emergence of the first
>
A classic New Atheist quip these days is "Atheism is a religion the same way
'Off' is a TV channel."
What are you if 'Off' is your favourite TV channel?
I often sit and stare at a blank TV screen and I have a 42" plasma so it's a
pretty full-on experience of No Signal Whatsoever
I love it
> On 29 Mar 2017, at 3:32 pm, Stathis Papaioannou <stath...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>> On Wed., 29 Mar. 2017 at 10:30 am, Kim Jones <kimjo...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 29 Mar 2017, at 10:
> On 29 Mar 2017, at 10:22 am, 'cdemorse...@yahoo.com' via Everything List
> wrote:
>
> Couldn't an athiest instead be open to, for example, a mathematical
> foundation from which that which we perceive as being matter emerges?
Sure - but then they
Atheists have no special function or any special beliefs. They are a religion
like any other. They believe in God's non-existence, that's all. They reject
the notion of an immaterial "prima materia" because that appears to them
self-contradictory and instead put a thing called "Matter" on the
Where does Bruno say we are living in a simulation? He says we are more likely
emulated.
K
On 16 Mar 2017, at 8:57 am, Bruce Kellett wrote:
>
> Sabine Hossenfelder has an interesting blog post about the popular idea that
> we are living in a simulation created by
I feel like the guy in the dressing gown feeling the weirdness
https://www.facebook.com/uniladmag/videos/2524792810877096/
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> On 28 Dec 2016, at 6:17 pm, Brent Meeker wrote:
>
> Exactly so. Once we can engineer robots to act with human like intelligence,
> questions about consciousness will be seen as either meaningless or "the
> wrong question".
>
>
Yes. This is precisely why we will
> On 30 Dec 2016, at 7:47 am, John Mikes wrote:
>
> KIM (and Brent, Telmo of course)
> what should we call " W E I R D " ???
I think "low measure" is the most meaningful synonym for me
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> On 30 Dec 2016, at 12:49 pm, Russell Standish <li...@hpcoders.com.au> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 07:57:31PM +1100, Kim Jones wrote:
>>
>> I don’t think that only mature-age people think that the fact that Donald
>> Trump got elected is weir
real and
a metric of something
Kim Jones
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lot of them
> On 6 Oct 2015, at 8:34 pm, Bruno Marchal wrote:
>
> Note that here John Clark agrees implicitly with the fact that a computation
> is not a physical notion, because he defines physical computation by a
> computation done in physics. So he lost the point. Unfortunately we
> On 1 Oct 2015, at 3:25 AM, John Clark wrote:
>
> When I say "physical computation" and you demand a definition of that and
> when I respond with "a computation done with physics" and you demand a
> definition of that too then I believe it is perfectly acceptable for
Idiocy only ever applies to other people, yes. It's like sexual perversion and
corruption; these things are done only by others, never by me! Why I speak of
the need for some fabled 'test' - a bit like Alice drinking from the bottle
marked 'drink me'. Alice was no idiot. She had the
.
But there is no criteria for intelligence, except that with the definition
taken, keeping silence is a sort of local quasi-criteria (making pebble
intelligent, but why not as they rarely utters stupidities).
Bruno
Brent
On 8/11/2015 4:06 PM, Kim Jones wrote:
On 11 Aug 2015, at 10
On 14 Aug 2015, at 8:21 am, chris peck chris_peck...@hotmail.com wrote:
So, to cut to the chase, when a thread appears claiming the benefit of a
psychedelic is to work out who the idiots are, when it is suggested that the
substance be used in such a miserly way, I can't help but feel
On 11 Aug 2015, at 10:26 pm, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
No doubt that it would be interesting to look at. Salvia has been called a
cure of ... atheism (the non agnostic one 'course). Not that it makes you
believe in anything new, it just shows reasons to doubt more, and to
On 12 Aug 2015, at 9:42 am, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
If you think you have a sure fire way to identify an idiot...it's you.
Brent
You, sir - are no one’s idiot.
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beliefs would be classed as normal.
Obviously the people conducting the interview would be 'normal'.
Any takers?
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On 12 Jul 2015, at 3:09 am, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
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You suffer from raving psychological mind ghosts; carefully nurtured paranoid
Manichean delusions brought upon by the ingestion of too much war propaganda.
Psychological mind
http://www.adguk.co.uk/scitech/nasa-discovers-thc-on-meteorite-fragment/
http://www.adguk.co.uk/scitech/nasa-discovers-thc-on-meteorite-fragment/
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On 12 Jun 2015, at 2:34 am, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
The Baha'i faith maintains that all religions are equally valid and I think
the Baha'i people have got it about right, they're all crap.
John K Clark
The difference between the three Abrahamic religions
On 12 Jun 2015, at 9:31 am, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
The difference between the three Abrahamic religions (according to Bill
Maher):
Christianity = mumbling to the ceiling
Judaism = mumbling to the wall
Islam = mumbling to the floor
I tend to mumble to myself. (Maybe I can
On 10 Jun 2015, at 2:20 pm, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
On 10 June 2015 at 15:23, Kim Jones kimjo...@ozemail.com.au wrote:
Both. I'm exploring the concept of solipsism with a positive attitude. What
are the benefits? Your attempts at humour always hit the mark (with me.)
Thanks
On 9 Jun 2015, at 8:07 pm, Bruce Kellett bhkell...@optusnet.com.au wrote:
Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 09 Jun 2015, at 07:40, Bruce Kellett wrote:
Given a set of axioms and some agreed rules of inference, the same results
always follow, regardless of by whom or at what time the application
On 9 Jun 2015, at 12:09 pm, Samiya Illias samiyaill...@gmail.com wrote:
A good resource for listening to Quran Recitation in Arabic plus Translation
for anyone interested in listening to he Quran:
http://www.quranexplorer.com/quran/
Samiya
YOU WISH
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Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 09 Jun 2015, at 12:07, Bruce Kellett wrote:
Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 09 Jun 2015, at 07:40, Bruce Kellett wrote:
Given a set
On 10 Jun 2015, at 11:53 am, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
On 10 June 2015 at 13:35, Kim Jones kimjo...@ozemail.com.au wrote:
On 10 Jun 2015, at 9:09 am, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
On 10 June 2015 at 10:37, Bruce Kellett bhkell...@optusnet.com.au wrote:
Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 09
If you ever run into him you will instantly recognise him
Kim
On 3 Jun 2015, at 7:54 am, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
Who is the Master who makes the grass green?
On 3 June 2015 at 08:38, John Mikes jami...@gmail.com wrote:
So, Bruno, what is that 'illusion-maker'
John M
On
On 2 Jun 2015, at 12:18 pm, Samiya Illias samiyaill...@gmail.com wrote:
Saying 'In Sha Allah' and 'Ma Sha Allah' reminds us that no matter how
earnestly we resolve to do something or how hard we tried, the decision is
always with Allah. In this temporal realm, we can only 'choose' to try
On 3 Jun 2015, at 1:44 pm, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 6/2/2015 8:35 PM, Samiya Illias wrote:
Let's try a different approach. Do you really think that everything just
happened on its own and there is no creator behind it? If you do believe
that there must be a creator, then
On 3 Jun 2015, at 2:24 pm, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 6/2/2015 9:11 PM, Kim Jones wrote:
God has this tendency, as someone once observed, to align his/her/its wishes
for usexactly on the same tram-lines of our already preset desires. God
only ever wants for Man what Man
On 31 May 2015, at 9:03 am, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
On 31 May 2015 at 03:24, Samiya Illias samiyaill...@gmail.com wrote:
God created humans
How do you know FFS? There are by now a few credible alternative scenarios.
Why does G have to be the grandmother of every bloody thing?
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“I’m not saying there aren’t
https://www.facebook.com/MrDiscontinuity/posts/978314172187161
On 28 May 2015, at 9:44 pm, Kim Jones kimjo...@ozemail.com.au wrote:
It's the sound made by geoengineering - firing electromagnetic pulse waves
into the atmosphere to affect weather change. HAARP. And other things
It's the sound made by geoengineering - firing electromagnetic pulse waves into
the atmosphere to affect weather change. HAARP. And other things they don't
ring you up to tell you they are doing. No, they don't announce on the evening
news that mankind has figured out how to toy with the
http://chemtrailsplanet.net/2013/04/13/aquiess-international-inc-electromagnetic-rainmaking-technology/
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https://www.facebook.com/MrDiscontinuity/posts/978314172187161
On 28 May 2015, at 9:44 pm, Kim Jones kimjo
Norway's entry in the Eurovision Song Contest shows that certain urges rise
above self-love, sex and power:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mbyzgeee2mgfeature=youtu.be
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lot
On 30 Apr 2015, at 2:29 pm, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
I was told at school that 'a sentence which does not contain a verb is not a
sentence' which I gather was meant to imply 'you have not managed to say
anything if you don't use a verb' which is bollocks, of course.
This sentence no
On 30 Apr 2015, at 12:34 pm, Bruce Kellett bhkell...@optusnet.com.au wrote:
If everything is to 'happen' in Platonia, you need to specify a temporal
variable. This is not trivial, and I have not seen any convincing explanation
of how you intend to do this.
Bruce
The way I
On 30 Apr 2015, at 1:20 pm, Bruce Kellett bhkell...@optusnet.com.au wrote:
Kim Jones wrote:
On 30 Apr 2015, at 12:34 pm, Bruce Kellett bhkell...@optusnet.com.au
wrote:
If everything is to 'happen' in Platonia, you need to specify a temporal
variable. This is not trivial, and I
On 23 Apr 2015, at 8:06 pm, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
Sorry to go off topic so soon :-) but at first glance the answer to this
would appear to depend completely on the answer to Bruno's yes doctor - if
one's consciousness is the result of computation at some level, and assuming
On 16 Apr 2015, at 11:03 pm, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
But those who gave me the price in Paris
The PRIZE
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On 18 Apr 2015, at 4:56 am, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
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Current global growth estimates are that every two days, the world is now
creating as much new digital information as all the data ever created from
the dawn of humans through
Getting back to this Bruno quote that Liz threw in:
On 15 Apr 2015, at 7:05 pm, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
This makes quanta into a particular case of qualia, being somehow sharable,
and making physical reality a first person plural reality
So what would happen if everyone died in
On 16 Apr 2015, at 6:12 am, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote:
For all you know what you believe is logical is not and you're deluded.
Quentin
I daresay, yes.
So, for me this suggests the following questions:
Why bother discussing anything?
How can we ever really have firm
On 14 Apr 2015, at 11:24 am, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
This makes quanta into a particular case of qualia, being somehow sharable,
and making physical reality a first person plural reality
So what would happen if everyone died in some cataclysm, except for one
person?
Then
On 30 Mar 2015, at 11:19 am, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
On 30 March 2015 at 08:39, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 3/29/2015 3:55 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
Please! Hunter Gatherers - warriors is a boys' club term for it.
I can accept that the term warrior glorifies something
On 28 Mar 2015, at 9:12 pm, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com wrote:
Hi Kim,
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On 26 Mar 2015, at 2:21 pm, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
http://www.raqqa-sl.com/en/?p=857
So most of these women are Brits? WTF
On 26 Mar 2015, at 2:21 pm, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
http://www.raqqa-sl.com/en/?p=857
So most of these women are Brits? WTF! Makes your blood run cold. People are
turning into zombies left right and centre. There is absolutely nothing
whatsoever in organised religion for women. This
On 25 Mar 2015, at 7:44 am, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
the John-before-he-looks will be uncertain of what he will see
People just can't get over that damn pronoun addiction! If he is the
John-before-he-looks
On 23 Mar 2015, at 10:19 am, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 3/22/2015 2:45 PM, LizR wrote:
On 23 March 2015 at 07:37, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
I don't think step 3 is at all essential to the argument. It's nothing but
setting up an analogy to Everett's MWI to show
On 23 Mar 2015, at 3:36 pm, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 3/22/2015 8:55 PM, Kim Jones wrote:
But Bruno is only explicating how there can be an objectively determinsitic
process that *necessarily* produces a subjectively uncertain outcome.
Yes. Clark has to accept
On 22 Mar 2015, at 10:56 am, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 Kim Jones kimjo...@ozemail.com.au wrote:
Competence and intelligence are different things
If something made of protoplasm does it then it's intelligent, but if
something made of silicon and does
On 21 Mar 2015, at 10:35 am, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 3/20/2015 12:51 PM, John Clark wrote:
I was consider as being crackpot *because* I defended the idea that
machine could be intelligent, and could develop competence. 40 years ago.
It sounds like you were wiser 40
PM, LizR wrote:
On 20 March 2015 at 10:56, Kim Jones kimjo...@ozemail.com.au wrote:
Clark is that desperate order of human whose only creative ability lies in
shitting on the thinking of others. He is quite simply bereft of any
thinking of his own and has clearly never once in gis life
On 20 Mar 2015, at 11:43 am, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 3/19/2015 5:18 PM, Kim Jones wrote:
Critics exist to criticise, to provide critiques (opinions) and make
criticisms of existing ideas.
That's the general meaning, but art critics also praise. In fact it seems
On 20 Mar 2015, at 2:06 pm, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 3/19/2015 7:59 PM, Kim Jones wrote:
Don't forget, the word critical does Have two meanings and people
sometimes intentionally confuse them because you can. Critical often gets
used sloppily to mean extremely important
as a liar, the only way
forward is to maintain the fictions you mistakenly outed - even after you and
everyone have seen through them.
Kim Jones
On 20 Mar 2015, at 7:20 am, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 18 Mar 2015, at 18:07, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
Liar Clark seriously
On 2 Mar 2015, at 2:50 pm, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
But very special type of duplicating machine where the laws of physics forbid
anyone from observing any of the duplicates that the machine has made, so the
personal pronoun you never causes ambiguity.
John K Clark
On 2 Mar 2015, at 5:30 pm, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 3/1/2015 10:26 PM, Kim Jones wrote:
On 2 Mar 2015, at 2:50 pm, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
But very special type of duplicating machine where the laws of physics
forbid anyone from observing any
On 16 Feb 2015, at 9:30 pm, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 16 Feb 2015, at 07:22, Kim Jones wrote:
On 16 Feb 2015, at 5:12 am, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
I am not sure if I fear more radical islamism or the political correctness
which has never stop
On 16 Feb 2015, at 5:12 am, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
I am not sure if I fear more radical islamism or the political correctness
which has never stop to sustain the radical (pseudo--Islam), which is nazism
in disguised. In fact the nazis have disguised antisemitism into
, Australia and Britain.
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I'm not saying there aren't a lot of dangerous people out there. I am saying a
lot of them
That was truly entertaining. I loved the way it ended up
Kim
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On 26 Jan 2015, at 7:43 am, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
I study the consequences of a common assumption, and assuming a universal
person is natural
On 26 Jan 2015, at 7:43 am, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
I study the consequences of a common assumption, and assuming a universal
person is natural in this context.
Here is the big sell, then. You have to somehow demonstrate to the human race
that we are a universal person.
On 25 Jan 2015, at 8:39 am, Rex Allen rexallen31...@gmail.com wrote:
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On 22 Jan 2015, at 3:58 pm, Rex Allen rexallen31...@gmail.com wrote:
Which was also my problem with physicalism - in that why would
inability to see past
your own beliefs and to so continually flaunt your self-righteous NEED to flame
and flail others for their otherness.
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On 22 Jan 2015, at 6:07 pm, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 1/21/2015 10:09 PM, Kim Jones wrote:
But the laws surely are not random. Laws cannot be random. Look, the
universe is a setup job. Either we are simulated and the limitation to our
minds is intentional or we
On 23 Jan 2015, at 10:24 am, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 1/22/2015 9:20 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 21 Jan 2015, at 20:27, meekerdb wrote:
On 1/21/2015 3:48 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
If you completely discard the concept of truth and replace it entirely
with evolutionary
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On 1/21/2015 3:48 AM
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On 22 Jan 2015, at 3:58 pm, Rex Allen rexallen31...@gmail.com wrote:
I think my main problem with platonism is that I don't see why a mathematical
universe would generate beings who then develop true beliefs about the
mathematical nature of the universe.
Under Bruno's neoplatonic
On 22 Jan 2015, at 5:46 am, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote:
In the end... if you cannot doubt god because of the way you define it...
then not only you're not atheist (seems obvious)... but you're not agnostic
either, you're what is called a believer...
Quentin
Yes.
On 20 Jan 2015, at 12:31 pm, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
All I know about is ideas and ideas are information and I would say that
information is physical, but you would call it abstract and non-physical, in
contrast I can say virtually nothing about the sun itself but you
On 21 Jan 2015, at 4:56 am, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 4:20 AM, Kim Jones kimjo...@ozemail.com.au wrote:
stop using that ridiculous and meaningless art term abstract. [...]
Nothing is abstract.
So you're saying that the word abstract should
On 20 Jan 2015, at 11:43 pm, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com wrote:
These models tend to have something in common: they suggest that we are not
what we appear to be, that we are not mortal or immortal because time itself
is a dream. That there is only one consciousness and we are
What has any of this got to do with the search for a ToE?
Kim
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On 19 Jan 2015, at 2:51 pm, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
But my serious point is that arithmetic is a model of countable things we
invented and it's not some magic that controls what exists.
Brent
Magic? Hmmyou wish..still having trouble with the comp reversal,
you
On 19 Jan 2015, at 4:40 pm, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com wrote:
That you consider mod 4 to be a qualifier is just a convention of
language. If we were talking about time what's six hours after 1900: answer
0100, because there the convention is mod 24. But my serious point is that
at 5:45 pm, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
Kim: Which is the Turing Universal system that doesn't show some kind of
relationship with arithmetic? Why do you feel that that reality would have
to be magical if we notice important relations with arithmetical values?
You can notice
On 16 Jan 2015, at 9:56 am, Platonist Guitar Cowboy
multiplecit...@gmail.com wrote:
That's why all this talk around agnostics are really atheists is dubious:
in assigning to certain ideas fixed literal meaning (God as person or
whatever), the atheist does and goes beyond what the
On 17 Jan 2015, at 6:59 am, LizR via Everything List
everything-list@googlegroups.com wrote:
Of course I do believe in Daleks...)
Jesus, you design a difficult bloody crossword! I thought I knew my Dr WHO...
Kim
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On 17 Jan 2015, at 8:24 am, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 2:44 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
Take my definition of God in the Plotinus paper. That is God = the set of
Gödel numbers of the true (in the standard model) sentences of
On 17 Jan 2015, at 12:46 pm, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 1/15/2015 8:31 PM, Kim Jones wrote:
On 16 Jan 2015, at 5:18 am, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 1/15/2015 3:04 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
It is the reason why I stopped, a long time ago, to qualify myself
On 16 Jan 2015, at 5:18 am, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 1/15/2015 3:04 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
It is the reason why I stopped, a long time ago, to qualify myself as an
atheist. I realized that atheists believe to much in the christian God,
paradoxically enough.
By your
On 16 Jan 2015, at 5:05 pm, Samiya Illias samiyaill...@gmail.com wrote:
Like Russell, I tend to feel (or believe, if you prefer) that this One or
what the physicalists call the beginning also includes observers. I can
conceive of the possibility that observers were present right from the
On 11 Jan 2015, at 10:22 am, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com wrote:
By the way, I wonder if you or anybody else on the list can explain something
to me that I have never understood; why is it that in all of human activity
religion is the one and only one that is supposed to be absolutely
On 10 Jan 2015, at 10:20 am, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 1/9/2015 2:56 PM, Kim Jones wrote:
Democracy is great but is not robust enough to withstand the urge to
tribalism. Despite all systems of government and theories of statism and
collectivism - the fact remains
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