Re: A riddle for John Clark

This is covered also in Martine Rothblatt's mind clone conjecture. Conceivably, let us say in an upload to 3 different VR environments, in which the uploadee provides the avatars for these 3 places, dies in the process, who is the closest continuer? To start, they all are, moreover, if they are

Re: A riddle for John Clark

What part of physics is not computable? -Original Message- From: Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be To: everything-list everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, Jun 25, 2015 3:51 am Subject: Re: A riddle for John Clark On 25 Jun 2015, at 04:15, spudboy100 via Everything List

Re: A riddle for John Clark

But what of pancomputationalism? Sent from AOL Mobile Mail -Original Message- From: John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com To: everything-list everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Wed, Jun 24, 2015 08:57 PM Subject: Re: A riddle for John Clark div

Re: A riddle for John Clark

for John Clark On Saturday, June 27, 2015, spudboy100 via Everything List everything-list@googlegroups.com wrote: But surely phenomena in quantum physics and Conways Life are random, but computable? GOL is deterministic. Quantum mechanics (under any interpretation) results

Re: A riddle for John Clark

Message- From: John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com To: everything-list everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Sat, Jun 27, 2015 12:20 pm Subject: Re: A riddle for John Clark On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 spudboy100 via Everything List everything-list@googlegroups.com wrote

Re: A riddle for John Clark

The so called metaphysical issues, I claim, are metaphysical only because of our lack, at present, of scientific equipment that is sophisticated enough to actually measure astrophysical and quantum phenomena, that current and past scientists could only conjecture upon. Here is a paper, along

Re: A riddle for John Clark

Clark div id=AOLMsgPart_2_6b1e239a-cb04-4a0e-8920-161cdf7d7883 div dir=ltr div class=aolmail_gmail_default style=font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif span style=font-family:arial,sans-serifOn Thu, spudboy100 via Everything List /span span dir=ltr style=font-family:arial,sans-serifa

Re: super intelligence and self-sampling

Now you are talking of Tipler's Omega Point. A usable theory when combined with MWI, which Tipler supports. -Original Message- From: Terren Suydam terren.suy...@gmail.com To: everything-list everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, Jun 9, 2015 7:15 pm Subject: Re: super

Re: super intelligence and self-sampling

spudboy100 via Everything List everything-list@googlegroups.com wrote: Now you are talking of Tipler's Omega Point. A usable theory when combined with MWI, which Tipler supports. Tipler's idea of the Omega Point was interesting in 1993 when he introduced

Re: Well Stone The Crows

And, Brand supports them if they are Labor, dangerous or not. Wisdom, from another champagne socialist ;-) -Original Message- From: Kim Jones kimjo...@ozemail.com.au To: Everything List everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, Jun 15, 2015 5:09 am Subject: Well Stone The

Re: Quran Audio

Just to put my own dim consciousness into this arena, I did inquire of a young Pakistani, what he thought was the main motivation behind jihad. I asked if it was the great reward of being with Allah forever, and the women, etc. This guy corrected me and indicated, no it was not the great reward

Re: Quran Audio

. Samiya On 13-Jun-2015, at 5:46 am, spudboy100 via Everything List everything-list@googlegroups.com wrote: Just to put my own dim consciousness into this arena, I did inquire of a young Pakistani, what he thought was the main motivation behind

Re: super intelligence and self-sampling

div class=aolmail_gmail_extra div class=aolmail_gmail_quote On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 spudboy100 via Everything List span dir=ltra target=_blank href=mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com;everything-list@googlegroups.com/a/span wrote: /div div class=aolmail_gmail_quote

Re: Quran Audio

I wouldn't go to Maher for insight anymore then I would go to him for humor. Let the bastard start writing his own jokes again, for once. Solipsism interests me, because we need to know who is thinking the Great Thought, and start asking for changes. If it is a Boltzmann Brain, then again we

Re: super intelligence and self-sampling

: On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 spudboy100 via Everything List everything-list@googlegroups.com wrote: Yes, but there have been so much counter examples for the 1997 WMAP analysis that Tipler may end up correct

Re: Quran Audio

Audio On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 6:50 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List everything-list@googlegroups.com wrote: Yes I see. For me, it's a struggle to get the real world to conform, nicely, to religious texts My experience of such texts and of life

Re: A (somewhat) different angle on the reversal

The answer inspires me to ask, anything surprising or interesting in the patterns? The answer is no, but I needed to ask, despite this. Nothing of meaning to anyone, save, the math heads, who uncover relations and patterns. -Original Message- From: meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net

Re: Samiya proved right

-9ab66623e6a8 div dir=ltr div class=aolmail_gmail_extra div class=aolmail_gmail_quote On 3 June 2015 at 11:51, spudboy100 via Everything List span dir=ltra target=_blank href=mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com;everything-list@googlegroups.com/a/span wrote: blockquote class

Re: Why would God make this? (part 3)

A common hallucination reported by dmt users are praying manti. Sent from AOL Mobile Mail -Original Message- From: LizR lizj...@gmail.com To: everything-list everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, Jun 2, 2015 09:57 PM Subject: Why would God make this? (part 3) div

Re: Samiya proved right

@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, Jun 2, 2015 09:32 PM Subject: Re: Samiya proved right div id=AOLMsgPart_2_ffc3f010-bd66-459f-bb27-b549a7e3ac90 div dir=ltr div class=aolmail_gmail_extra div class=aolmail_gmail_quote On 3 June 2015 at 13:28, spudboy100 via Everything List span dir=ltra target

Re: Samiya proved right

A blast from the past. Wasn't it Robert Heinlein who wrote, one man's theology is another man's belly laugh? -Original Message- From: Samiya Illias samiyaill...@gmail.com To: everything-list everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, May 28, 2015 3:26 pm Subject: Re: Samiya proved

Re: The scope of physical law and its relationship to the substitution level

dir=ltr div class=aolmail_gmail_extra div class=aolmail_gmail_quote On 27 May 2015 at 04:13, spudboy100 via Everything List span dir=ltra target=_blank href=mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com;everything-list@googlegroups.com/a/span wrote: blockquote class

Re: Samiya proved right

Was it Time Enough for Love, Friday, or The Number of the Beast? -Original Message- From: LizR lizj...@gmail.com To: everything-list everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, May 28, 2015 7:40 pm Subject: Re: Samiya proved right On 29 May 2015 at 09:59, spudboy100 via

Re: The scope of physical law and its relationship to the substitution level

and its relationship to the substitution level On 29 May 2015 at 06:14, spudboy100 via Everything List everything-list@googlegroups.com wrote: Well simply put, action reaction. There may be a rudimentary level of consciousness, a basis, a basement. Food, seek, reproduce, etc

Re: Samiya proved right

=AOLMsgPart_2_329bb1e3-6527-4f78-85e7-28011efc6518 div dir=ltr div class=aolmail_gmail_extra div class=aolmail_gmail_quote On 1 June 2015 at 02:36, spudboy100 via Everything List span dir=ltra target=_blank href=mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com;everything-list@googlegroups.com/a/span

Re: The scope of physical law and its relationship to the substitution level

I am not even involved in your conversation here, but I must, at least at this point cheer on Stephen Wolfram. Although I am a bit disappointed that he did not invent Wolframite. Here is a nice clip from Wkipedia. Stephen Wolfram. In Chapter 9 of A New Kind of Science,[4] Stephen Wolfram

Re: Samiya proved right

To: everything-list everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Sat, May 30, 2015 1:05 pm Subject: Re: Samiya proved right On 30-May-2015, at 6:38 pm, spudboy100 via Everything List everything-list@googlegroups.com wrote: Here is what stopped Islamic science of 900 years ago. Insh

Re: Samiya proved right

to understand and explain with some years ago. It helps to make sense of it. However, the Quran states that it has been created in Truth / Reality, hence I hesitate to use that analogy. Samiya On 31-May-2015, at 1:13 am, spudboy100 via Everything List everything-list

Re: Samiya proved right

Its probably just the way I remembered it. -Original Message- From: LizR lizj...@gmail.com To: everything-list everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Sat, May 30, 2015 7:07 pm Subject: Re: Samiya proved right On 31 May 2015 at 03:32, spudboy100 via Everything List

Re: Samiya proved right

Agreed. Philosopher, John Leslie, uses the terms ethical requiredness, when applying this to God. It's somehow easier for most, emotionally, simply to drop the God thing, as an expectation in their lives. High expectations can mean high disappointments. Physicist, Guilio Prisco suggests that

Re: Samiya proved right

No No No! You've all got it wrong again! It's not the Trump of Doom, you sillies. It's the Doom of Trump! See? http://nypost.com/2015/05/30/stop-pretending-donald-trump-is-not-running-for-president/ -Original Message- From: Kim Jones kimjo...@ozemail.com.au To: everything-list

Re: Samiya proved right

John Pertwee or Tom Baker to the rescue! Behold, The Master has initiated Time Ram! Roger Delgado at the charge. Did you know Pertwee's son play's Alfred the Butler on Gotham? SPECTRE has activated Project Flemming to extort the world-and cause true global warming :-) -Original

Re: Samiya proved right

Twas brillig as slithey toves did gyre and gimble in the wabe all mimsy were the borogroves as the ramprats outgrabe -Original Message- From: LizR lizj...@gmail.com To: everything-list everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Fri, May 29, 2015 9:42 pm Subject: Re: Samiya

Re: Samiya proved right

Here is what stopped Islamic science of 900 years ago. Insh Allah, Ma'shallah! God wills, as god wills! This solves everything, so why study things further. Allah is in control of it all. All is me'toub! Fated by Allah. So studying how photosynthesis works, or what the moon is made from. The

Re: A riddle for John Clark

johnkcl...@gmail.com To: everything-list everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, Jun 29, 2015 11:25 pm Subject: Re: A riddle for John Clark On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 spudboy100 via Everything List everything-list@googlegroups.comwrote

Re: A riddle for John Clark

​O​n Sun, Jun 28, 2015 spudboy100 via Everything List everything-list@googlegroups.com wrote: ​ ​ I don't disagree with your dissertation on chaos versus randomness. So your point is chaos can be described as energy rich, and entropy

Re: R: Re: A riddle for John Clark

Chaotica Delenda Est! -Original Message- From: 'scerir' via Everything List everything-list@googlegroups.com To: everything-list everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Sun, Jun 28, 2015 5:38 am Subject: R: Re: A riddle for John Clark True randomness is not computable by (at

Re: A riddle for John Clark

Sent: Sun, Jun 28, 2015 5:24 am Subject: Re: A riddle for John Clark On 27 Jun 2015, at 13:33, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: I was thinking of Heisenberg's uncertainty principle, when I wrote that yesterday. Yet, there are papers based on experiments weaken the hold

Re: A riddle for John Clark

pondering. -Original Message- From: John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com To: everything-list everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Sat, Jun 27, 2015 6:05 pm Subject: Re: A riddle for John Clark On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 spudboy100 via Everything List

Re: A riddle for John Clark

for John Clark On 27 Jun 2015, at 03:30, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: But surely phenomena in quantum physics and Conways Life are random, but computable? Being computable, they are not random, although they can be chaotic and can look random (and pass

Re: A riddle for John Clark

: Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be To: everything-list everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, Jun 29, 2015 9:24 am Subject: Re: A riddle for John Clark On 29 Jun 2015, at 01:34, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: Take an intelligent observer counting pebbles on a rocky beach

Re: A riddle for John Clark

of a program, or what it was? -Original Message- From: Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be To: everything-list everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Sun, Jun 28, 2015 11:13 am Subject: Re: A riddle for John Clark On 28 Jun 2015, at 15:07, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote

Re: A riddle for John Clark

...@gmail.com To: everything-list everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Sun, Jun 28, 2015 1:44 pm Subject: Re: A riddle for John Clark On Sun, Jun 28, 2015 spudboy100 via Everything List everything-list@googlegroups.com wrote: ​ ​ How does

Re: Mission of the Messengers

It's wonderful entertainment to imagine that past, superior, civilizations arose and fell, or what is Atlantis for? HP Lovecraft, and August Derleth, Clarke Ashton Smith, and so many others of pulp fiction fame. I don't feel it should be part of religious belief because it seems so inaccurate.

Re: A riddle for John Clark

everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, Jun 29, 2015 1:06 pm Subject: Re: A riddle for John Clark On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 spudboy100 via Everything List everything-list@googlegroups.com wrote: ​ ​ Don't you wonder

Re: A riddle for John Clark

;color: #000;background-color: #fff; pre style=font-size: 9pt;ttOn Wed, Jul 01, 2015 at 04:51:15PM +0200, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 30 Jun 2015, at 05:25, John Clark wrote: On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 spudboy100 via Everything List a href=mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com;everything-list

Re: Physicists Are Philosophers, Too

Ah! Think again, unless you are wedded to an ideology? This is real trouble, I think, what should we do about it? http://articles.latimes.com/2013/jul/13/science/la-sci-sn-volcanoes-antarctica-climate-20130712The LA Times is a solid, progressive news source, and I guess the science must've

Re: What do you need to create a universe?

Eric Steinhart believes like Dawkins does that it is evolution. That the simplest starter universe, with something like Conway's Life, can produce through a mathematical cascade effect, newer and eventually more complex universes. I guess I am dumb enough to look at a prime programmer analyst,

Re: What do you need to create a universe?

reality. In another sense, however, all universes already exist and so you aren't creating anything, only forging a connection to another universe that's out there. Jason On 5/25/15, spudboy100 via Everything List everything-list@googlegroups.com wrote: Eric Steinhart believes like Dawkins does

Re: What do you need to create a universe?

a universe? Writing a novel is one way. On 26 May 2015 at 09:13, spudboy100 via Everything List everything-list@googlegroups.com wrote: What about such universes or subregions,domains, that sadly, lack a conscious observer? What creates or sends the observer, perhaps

Re: Stopping atomic motion (almost)

My question, always, is what can we learn from this, how can we apply it? -Original Message- From: LizR lizj...@gmail.com To: everything-list everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, May 26, 2015 3:51 am Subject: Stopping atomic motion (almost) This is cool. Very cool.

Re: What do you need to create a universe?

think a new universe may form inside a black hole, of course. (This isn't safe in the lab OR easy to communicate with, however.) On 26 May 2015 at 10:52, spudboy100 via Everything List everything-list@googlegroups.com wrote: I would say a novel may help make a blueprint

Re: Stopping atomic motion (almost)

(almost) On Tue, May 26, 2015 spudboy100 via Everything List everything-list@googlegroups.com wrote: http://arstechnica.com/science/2015/05/atomic-telescope-brings-atoms-to-standstill/ My question, always, is what can we learn from

Re: The scope of physical law and its relationship to the substitution level

Isn't consciousness a form of intelligence? -Original Message- From: John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com To: everything-list everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, May 26, 2015 12:03 pm Subject: Re: The scope of physical law and its relationship to the substitution level

Re: Michael Shermer becomes sceptical about scepticism!

Verifiable data is essential for me. On the other hand, Steinhart's Promotion theory consists of a process (humans, biomes,?) being also data pipelines to another region of spacetime, or other universes. This, in some sense resembles the repeated perspectives by many of tunnel's, passages, and

Re: Idiot Test

On the drug thing, especially with DMT, users were supposed to communicate with bouncing balls, giant mantises, metallic robots, and humanoid ambulatory trees. Well, Terrence Mckenna told some interesting tales about his dmt visions, but after years of people doodling with their brains, using

Re: A scary theory about IS

What I am guessing is the fear of those nasty Yanks that is driving all this. One doesn't need to be politically radical to be paranoid. In the US ATT has been sending its comm records directly to NSA, it was revealed a few days ago. Tell yer mum, Liz, that to paraphrase US dude Ben Franklin

Re: A riddle for John Clark

Since we're talking about electrons or photons, everything should be free, since one is liberated from the heavy realm of neutrons and protons. Maybe computing cycles is the common currency. The Jeff Bezos upload has more computing cycles than I because he is far richer. Maybe this is how

Re: The Mental Being

-Original Message- From: meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net To: everything-list everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Sat, Aug 8, 2015 3:34 pm Subject: Re: The Mental Being On 8/8/2015 11:32 AM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: Abe Lincoln during the US Civil War, said, People

Re: Idiot Test

Chris, when you can think of politicians and actors of your political preference, who behave idiotically: then you'd really be making a succinct point. The rationale being, if you agree with my position, thus, you are wonderful, but if you disagree, you are a moron. On this mailing list

Re: Idiot Test

everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Fri, Aug 14, 2015 5:17 pm Subject: Re: Idiot Test From: spudboy100 via Everything List everything-list@googlegroups.com To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 12:39 PM Subject: Re

Re: MWI question for the physicists...

For each according to their observation state, to each according to their needs. Bawh hah hah, Tovaritch. Is good? -Original Message- From: David Nyman da...@davidnyman.com To: everything-list everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, Aug 11, 2015 1:57 pm Subject: Re: Re: MWI

Re: The Mental Being

Abe Lincoln during the US Civil War, said, People are always talking about God being on Their side. But I want us to make sure that we are on God's side. On the other hand, during the film, A Bronx Tale displayed what happened to a young boy when he witnesses a mafia hit between two hoods. The

Re: David Deutsch and Constructor Theory

. -Original Message- From: Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be To: everything-list everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, Jul 27, 2015 12:16 pm Subject: Re: David Deutsch and Constructor Theory On 26 Jul 2015, at 21:05, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: I

Re: David Deutsch and Constructor Theory

Heh! I have read Deutsches thesis on Constructor Theory a few times and I cannot really grasp it, intellectually, except as a spin-off of Von Newmann's cellular automata. Save, that it applies at a cosmological level, rather then a mathematical sense, or on a Conway's Life computer screen. I

Re: Weyl Fermions

Ah! So you want us to invest in Tantalum and Niobium stocks? -Original Message- From: John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com To: everything-list everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Sat, Jul 25, 2015 1:43 pm Subject: Weyl Fermions I have a hunch​that in the near future

Re: David Deutsch and Constructor Theory

To: everything-list everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Sun, Jul 26, 2015 12:26 pm Subject: Re: David Deutsch and Constructor Theory On 26 Jul 2015, at 14:48, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: Heh! I have read Deutsches thesis on Constructor Theory a few times and I cannot really

Re: Vast Methane releases in Arctic Ocean

, at 1:48 am, meekerdbmeek...@verizon.net wrote: On 7/16/2015 5:50 AM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: On the Day of Reckoning, God will not bless them nor shower His grace upon them, and they will spend

Re: ISIS The Start of World War III?

Let me respond on a few points if I can? The Iran thing are Messianic, genocidal guys, as well, just of the Shia variety. They have this Hidden Imam thing going on that differs from the Sunni flavor of things. They also have the 12th Imam, and both are believed in messianic figures, that are

Re: ISIS The Start of World War III?

Well, be warned, I am a hard-case, so here is my guess. WW3 was the Cold War 1947-91, and this is WW4 against an un-named adversary. Neither Bush nor Bamer, are eager to call Islamic Extremism for what it is. And given enough unraveling, why not have China and Russia side with with the

Re: Vast Methane releases in Arctic Ocean

, spudboy100 via Everything List everything-list@googlegroups.com wrote: I am guessing that if this comes to pass, you believe that this Allah's punishment for human, likely Qfar, misbehavior? The heating of the seas is a Quranic prediction

Re: Vast Methane releases in Arctic Ocean

I am guessing that if this comes to pass, you believe that this Allah's punishment for human, likely Qfar, misbehavior? -Original Message- From: Samiya Illias samiyaill...@gmail.com To: everything-list everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Wed, Jul 15, 2015 1:42 am Subject: Vast

Re: ISIS The Start of World War III?

This is the truth of things, simply because it is. Which sort of supports my view (I feel) of the world Elites, billionaires and the politicians they own, are going against the existential interests of the West (is there a West?), in order to make money off Saudis, Iranians, North Korea,

Re: ISIS The Start of World War III?

My issue is that yes, at this point ISIS seem to present no domestic danger, however leaders of the word have continuously underestimated their successes. Italy may be their next target, or Spain in a Re-Conquista of their own. Moreover, this ideology is not in its actions, alone in the Islamic

Re: ISIS The Start of World War III?

Icke is an interesting, but paranoid character. If ISIS, or any element from the Islamic World causes a 4th world war (The Cold War was actually WW3), then it is not any member of the Uma's fault, but instead the weakness, the cowardice, the irresolution, of 'so called' Western leaders.

Re: ISIS The Start of World War III?

Thanks dr. Sent from AOL Mobile Mail -Original Message- From: 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List everything-list@googlegroups.com To: everything-list everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Sat, Jul 11, 2015 01:09 PM Subject: RE: ISIS The Start of World War III? div

Re: ISIS The Start of World War III?

socialism and communism. Now the left is in histherical phase . The URRS was a stabilizing counterbalance needed for the affirmation of values of the westerners. I doubt that 2015-07-11 17:35 GMT+02:00 spudboy100 via Everything List everything-list@googlegroups.com

Re: ISIS The Start of World War III?

I don't think this is Manicheanism, You are objecting to fact that ISIS does bad things, or that people oppose the bad things that ISIS does? The leadership of the US especially, view passivity on the US part, as an unalloyed virtue. On the other hand, with the president's involvement wit Iran

Re: ISIS The Start of World War III?

I am here to free your mind -Morpheus -Original Message- From: 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List everything-list@googlegroups.com To: everything-list everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Sat, Jul 11, 2015 9:53 pm Subject: RE: ISIS The Start of World War III? Only

Re: ISIS The Start of World War III?

All well and good, but I am surmising that you underestimate the vindictiveness from others, who see life differently than yourself. For instance, the European epoch of imperialism, which we all know about, is shameful look backwards for the Europeans. For the Islamic expansions of the 7th

Re: Tri Alpha Energy

John, I am guessing that these guys are working hard, but achieving commercial, nuclear fusion is not in the cards. It may never be in the cards, as an electricity power source, except as, a means of fast interplanetary travel. -Original Message- From: John Clark

Re: If the universe is computational, what is the computing platform? What are the options?

Shooting for a physical location? Now we head of (my choice) into Conjecture-Land. Two possibilities, submitted for your scorn and disapproval. One is that since the universe is said by astronomers to be somewhere in the zone of 26-80 light-years, in extant, and we can only detect what is

Re: Tri Alpha Energy

Subject: Re: Tri Alpha Energy On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 spudboy100 via Everything List <everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: ​> ​ John, I am guessing that these guys are working hard, but achiev

Re: A scary theory about IS

Yes, big powers do have inertia. The old soviets played a weak hand in Afghanistan, simply because they did not wish to rouse the Muslims against them, which would have occurred if the soviets had sent in more than 150,000 troops to eliminate the mujaheddin. Self constraint loses wars, and

Re: Tri Alpha Energy

Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com> To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com> Sent: Mon, Aug 31, 2015 12:44 PM Subject: Re: Tri Alpha Energy On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 , spudboy100 via Everything List <mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com;>everything-lis

Re: If the universe is computational, what is the computing platform? What are the options?

Excellent website you have there, Peter. Let me present Eric Steinhart, if you don't already know him? He is also a big fan of Josiah Royce. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfDB35y-5Z0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTcQp1bTKHA -Original Message- From: Peter Sas

Re: Could we live forever?

I am kind of deeply interested in this stuff, because it, at least, is supposedly, hopeful. It seems, at this point, that the time for uploading is far, far, away. It could emerge out of neuroscience research, and all that, but it doesn't feel like there is anything reliable at this point.

Re: Could we live forever?

Probably better to ask if immortal uploads would spend their times living in underground computer network facilities for ages, or would they roam the galaxy, searching for biology? Sent from AOL Mobile Mail -Original Message- From: John Clark To:

Re: Gödel's Philosophy

Clifford Pickover (mathematical biologist) once did an interview with Godel, and a few weeks later, had a dream in which he and Godel were playing chess, and in the dream Godel swept his arm across the chessboard knocking all the pieces over. Pickover said he woke up an noted the time. Later

Re: Mandela effect?

As the simulation runs at the speed of light, we'd have to drive very fast and randomly, indeed. It is a simulation, or rather, a computation, such as a statistical mechanics analysis. The boot up and power on and self test, was the Big Bang. here's another completely, off the wall, point of

Re: Mandela effect?

effect? On Sun, Oct 4, 2015 at 1:26 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List <everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: As the simulation runs at the speed of light, we'd have to drive very fast and randomly, indeed. Ok, but suppose that the simulation has limited resources and only

Re: Could we live forever?

Is it possible that there is a memory capture 'mechanism' naturally, using the Planck space level of the universe? The fun part would be that the bit streams (or stings) would be magically restored back to life.Hence, immortality. -Original Message- From: John Clark

Re: Debate questions.

rote: On 11/28/2015 6:28 AM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: One could ask the Dems directly - Ms Clinton-What do accept money for the Clinton Foundation from the Saudi's ? I dunno. What do?

Re: Debate questions.

ything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com> Sent: Sun, Dec 6, 2015 1:48 pm Subject: Re: Debate questions. On Sat, Dec 5, 2015 at 3:07 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List <everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: ​> ​ You are good (apparently) at ignoring the d

Re: Debate questions.

ply serf versus serf, with us. -Original Message- From: John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com> To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com> Sent: Sat, Dec 5, 2015 1:45 pm Subject: Re: Debate questions. On Sat, Nov 28, 2015 at 9:28 AM, spudboy100 via Everything List

Re: Debate questions.

John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com> To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com> Sent: Tue, Dec 8, 2015 12:16 PM Subject: Re: Debate questions. I​n Sun, Dec 6, 2015 spudboy100 via Everything List <mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com;>everything-list@googlegroups.com>

Re: Google's Quantum Computer

Certain computer scientists have already scoffed at this development as not being accurate. I hope it is accurate, because the species needs all the help it can get to survive. At best it is a hybrid, quantum-conventional computer. The road to any kind of good singularity seems to be very long,

Re: Debate questions.

Interesting. Your comments reminds me of the 1948 film based on the screenplay by author, Graham Green, for the film, The Third Man. This has become known as the Harry Lime Speech, and goes like this: "Oh, don't be so glum. Under the Borgias, Italy had assasination, and wars, but produced

Re: Is consciousness hypercomputable?

Bruno, can there not be layers of what you describe as "fundamental" to reality. Astronomers have surmised that there is a greater physical area beyond the detectable Hubble Volume. Might not there be space enough for both your primal layer and Max Tegmark's. Maybe a layer of dragons and

Re: Is consciousness hypercomputable?

Yah Dan, I used to be a stong, anti-Platonist because, outside the human brain, nothing else could count. Then biolgists found out that some primates and birds appeared to. This brings me into the notion that consciousness could also be substrate independent. One huge argument for me, was

<    2   3   4   5   6   7   8   9   10   11   >