ad to
attraction or repulsion? I admit I know very little about it, but this
kind of thing frustrates me when reading popular physics articles. In
their defense, though, force particles are much smaller than proteins!
At least, Monday is over! Have a good week.
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(intestine, environment), sequence it all and
map the resulting reads to known genomes to find out what microbes are
present at that site.
Sorry to write so much. Biochemistry is one area I know a little about
(real little!) as opposed to metaphysics.
I wish tomorrow weren
the new stuff into
a database.
See you!
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On Saturday, April 4, 2015 at 3:08:19 PM UTC-4, cdemorsella wrote:
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>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: everyth...@googlegroups.com [mailto:
> everyth...@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of
s" and "spheres" stuff at my websites at:
https://sites.google.com/site/whydoesanythingexist/
(4 page summary, but no spheres stuff)
https://sites.google.com/site/ralphthewebsite/filecabinet/why-is-there-something-rather-than-nothing
(more detail, philosophical background and stuff on
>
> Roger: It's possible that what we see as existing is a simulation in some
> other computer.
>
>
> And thus in arithmetic, which can be proved to emulate all computers, on
> all programs, on all input. This is standard knowledge for logicians, but
> not alway
y 24, 2015 9:52 PM
> *To:* everyth...@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Why is there something rather than nothing? From quantum
> theory to dialectics?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Roger: It's possible that what we see as existing is a simulation in some
> othe
> Roger: It's possible that what we see as existing is a simulation in some
> other computer. But, even if we are a simulation, the simulation that is
> us exists as does the computer and the code we're a simulation in. My
> thinking is aimed at trying to figure
all work our models and see what progress we can make.
>
> All what I say is derived from the assumption that the brain or the body
> is Turing emulable at a level such that if we turing-emulate it, you would
> not see the difference subjectively. It is my working assumption.
>
>
Ro
>
> But, what is outside the head is a circle, with a circumference and a
>> diameter.
>>
>>
>> This is ambiguous.Are you talkng about the "platonic perfect circle"? Or
>> about a circle physically realized, like with a pen and a compass?
>&
>
> Roger: Just because things can exist outside the mind/head doesn't mean
>> that a specific thing does occur outside the mind/head. If the pi
>> proposition and the 10^(10^(10^100))th decimal point of pi can be shown
>> outside the mind/head or any experiment
On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 at 2:49:12 PM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote:
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> On 19 Jan 2015, at 23:48, 'Roger' via Everything List wrote:
>
>
>>> Roger: Even if no mind has yet conceived the the 10^(10^(10^100))th
>>> decimal point of pi, the pi
Chris,
Mostly I agree with everything you said. Specifically:
By corollary and by symmetry this same optic of doubt can shine upon the
notion of a real physical entity underlying the stuff we call real. What is
real about a proton, electron, photon…etc.?
Roger: I agree. Proton
they're 90 and still touring,
that'd be great! Some younger people, though, have never even heard of
them or other bands from the 60s-80s.
Roger
On Monday, January 19, 2015 at 7:01:38 PM UTC-5, Jason wrote:
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>
>
> On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 5:02 PM, 'Roger' via Eve
ect evidence for galaxies beyond the cosmological horizon
and the interiors of black holes but so far only theory about multiple
universes. Anyways, let's keep working at it!
Roger
On Monday, January 19, 2015 at 6:56:38 PM UTC-5, Jason wrote:
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>
>
> On Mon, Jan 19, 20
em up,will convince others to other follow up on our
ideas and models. This is what I think many of us are working on either in
our spare time or full-time. Good luck to all of us!
Roger
P.S. One thing that I know exists is that I have to go to work t
>
>
>> Roger: Even if no mind has yet conceived the the 10^(10^(10^100))th
>> decimal point of pi, the pi proposition and therefore the process of
>> calculating its 10^(10^(10^100))th decimal point and being confident that
>> if you do the process that tha
On Sunday, January 18, 2015 at 2:52:34 AM UTC-5, Jason wrote:
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 17, 2015 at 11:48 PM, 'Roger' via Everything List <
> everyth...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, January 18, 2015 at 12:27:06 AM UTC-5, Jason wr
On Sunday, January 18, 2015 at 12:27:06 AM UTC-5, Jason wrote:
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>
>
> On Sat, Jan 17, 2015 at 11:11 PM, 'Roger' via Everything List <
> everyth...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Roger,
>>>
>>> I have a question for you.
Roger,
>
> I have a question for you.
>
> Do you believe the 10^(10^(10^100))th decimal digit of Pi has a certain
> definite value, which is either 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, or 9?
>
> If so, would you still believe this if you knew that this number is too
> difficult t
On Saturday, January 17, 2015 at 1:12:20 PM UTC-5, spudb...@aol.com wrote:
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> The only thing about Larry Krauss that I like is his sketching out a
> conjecture for faster than light travel.
>
>
Agreed. Krauss kind of irritates me, too. His book title "A universe from
nothing: Why there is
redictions.
That's the key for all of us, IMHO.
Roger
On Monday, January 12, 2015 at 3:52:38 PM UTC-5, John Ross wrote:
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> Roger and Everyone,
>
>
>
> I absolutely agree. And I have been working on a model which explains how
> our Universe works inclu
oing this, it
seems like metaphysics can kind of be like science (observe or think about
the S vs. N question, make a hypothesis, and test it to try and get
evidence).
On a different note, I have a hard time navigating through all these
different threads and posts. I wish it were somehow
On Wednesday, January 14, 2015 at 5:28:03 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote:
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>
> On 14 Jan 2015, at 08:05, 'Roger' via Everything List wrote:
>
> I have to admit I have a hard time going with the idea of Platonism or
>> mathematical constructs existing somewhere
gt; than the assumption most scientist are doing when using mathematics in
> their domain. The arithmetical "platonism" (realism) used in
> computationalism is the same amount than the one used in computer science,
> physics, etc.
>
>
> Roger: My view is that proposi
Chris and Brent,
On Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 1:42:43 AM UTC-5, cdemorsella wrote:
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>
>
>
>
>
> Roger: It seems to me, too, that there are problems with zero dimensions,
> or point particles. I've never understood why physicists don't question
> Chris,
>>
>> Hey Roger ~ sorry for the belatedness of my reply
>>
>> Roger: No problem. I know there were a lot of other passionate
> discussions going on here lately!
> -
>
>
>> I really like your idea of imagining your mind growin
other way to assume computationalism, once
> we assume Church-Turing thesis), then the physical universe is a first
> person plural sort of hallucination, and we must derived the laws of
> physics from the laws of thought (Boole and Boolos, say).
>
Roger: Even if the universe is a hallucination,
ive and let live, let everyone have their say, and move on.
That's my two cents. Thanks.
Roger
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If only through the "we" which think about that nothing.
>
>
> Is anything possible at all without an observer?
>
> -Chris
>
> Roger: If we're talking about the situation where there's only the
> "absolute lack-of-all" or the "empty
gt; particular mental perspective.
>
> I kind of suspect there may some ultimate symmetry in the limit of both
> the very big and the very small.
>
> Roger: I really like your idea of imagining your mind growing to infinite
size, but I agree it sounds pretty hard. I'm goi
n expanding space composed of these "absolute
lack-of-all" existent entities.
This would be my vote on the autocatalytic mechanism for how this
initial entity/empty set could replicate itself.
See you.
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Chris,
I have nothing important to say! :-) Nothing and something are kind
of good areas for puns, double entendres and jokes. After all, Jerry
Seinfeld had a whole show about nothing!
>Roger – you have much to say about nothing [just joking]
You mentioned:
>I agree wi
2015 9:44 PM
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> theory to dialectics?
>
>
>
> On 1/2/2015 9:05 PM, 'Roger' via Everything List wrote:
>
> Even if the word "exists" has no us
the other
question of "Why is there something rather than nothing?".
On Thursday, January 1, 2015 12:17:37 PM UTC-5, John Clark wrote:
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> On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 11:36 PM, 'Roger' via Everything List <
> everyth...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>
> >
exists", what I mean
is that this "absolute lack-of-all" is identical to "something". I'm not
sure how trying to explain why a thing exists and why "nothing" is
actually not the lack of all existent entities but is instead a "something"
drains &
ing/edge of
the absolute lack-of-all is not some separate thing; it is just the
"entirety", "the all" relationship, inherent in this absolute lack-of-all,
that defines what is contained within.
If anyone is interested, there's more detail at my websites at:
sites.goog
Peter,
Hi. I've read parts of a few of your blog posts and found them very
interesting and highly recommend them to others.
To build on this thread of "Why is there something rather than
nothing?", I'd like to throw out some related ideas. I used to post here
more often with this, bu
The bitcoin is an international speculative cyber-currency
(based on nothing) that has been inflating rapidly in price.
I would be wary of investing in it because it can drop in value
just as fast as it is rising. It's probably a bubble.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHVu626uOGE
Dr. Ro
How the banks are stealing our wealth.
This seems to be factual, and is non-politcal.
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You'll need to watch it at least twice to understand it,
it's very complicated. And scarey.
Pass it on.
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Leibniz's theory of perception and consciousness.
The secret of perception. Particular minds and how they relate to the overall
or Cosmic Mind
The problem of perception in materialistic thinking is that it forces us to
think that there is a fleshly homunculus inside our brains.
Leibniz has a
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even aesthetics, rules the universe, not mathematics.
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onads
constitutes a change in positions or other perceived attributes
such as shape or temperature as well as mood. The changes
are not actually caused by interactions between monads
(since being independent, there can be no relations between
monads) but are caused by the One in its search for a
connections to the brain.
10. The mind plays the brain like a violin.
11. Life is Mind.
The list goes on.
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harmony"
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t;, meaning "there", and "sein" meaning "being" or "mental".
The "da" is in spacetime and the "sein" is outside of spacetime,
so a dasein is a monad.
Thus Heidegger's universe is essentially the same as Leibniz's,
an infinite collect
e by using the changeable
nature of contingent knowledge as an example.
I have not checked Russell's treatment of Kant, but
because of this ignorance, Russell also apparently
treats Kant as an empiricist gpone bad.
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in all human
perception, there is some distortion
to various degrees, depending on the person, which limits the range of
inter-communion with other saints and the environment.
Salvation is not clearly defined in Leibniz, as far asI have been able to find
out, but certainly communion of the
Self and
How can a grown man be an atheist ?
An atheist is a person who believes that the universe can
function without some form of government.
How silly.
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For example, essence is what causes a struck ball to follow Newton's law of
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For example, tje mind controls the brain.
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There is however no provision in materialism
or analytic philoophy for such a self.
Therefore materialism cannot explain consciousness.
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o physical objects and
assigning a subject (a monad) to each object.
This everything is conscious to some extent.
Otherwise it could not follow the pre-established harmony.
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An account of the historical (and continuing) suppression of Leibniz's
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Leibniz was an anti-materialist so that his inclusion of Mind and
deity into his philosophy were forbidden ideas, and stillo are, to our
detriment.
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nows everything
in the universe, but only from its own perspective, and monads being monads,
not perfectly clear but distorted.
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rue ai.
Or meaningful issues such as ethics or aesthetics.
However, continental philosophy and Indian philosophy can.
(Leibniz, Kant, Indian philosophers).
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Absolutely.
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by acquaintance", namely, the world of experience,
that of the First Person singular. So it is nonlinear and wholistic.
This is hopefuly the new paradigm of the mind and brain
which needs further developing by others.
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analytic philosophy-- the basis of materialism and atheism--
which are cults that have have degenerated Western thought -
have passed on or are at an advanced age.
Bertram Russell - Died 1970
Donald Davidson - Died 2003
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Note that only Idealism such as in Leibniz or Plato or Kant can deal with human
perception,
because only such Idealism can deal with knowledge by acquaintance (experience)
directly,
not by description..
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The difference between computer and human perception
Computer consciousness and perception is by description only, such as "42.
Underwater perfection" as given below.
Human perception is an experience such as shown in the photograph.
42. UNDERWATER PERFECTION
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conscious (first person
singular.)
So only humans and other living entities can be conscious or be truly
intelligent.
Thus artificial intelligence is impossible
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, Kant).
Definition of ANALYTIC PHILOSOPHY
: a philosophical movement that seeks the solution of philosophical problems
in the analysis
of propositions or sentences ?alled also philosophical analysis compare
ordinary-language philosophy
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Atheism is wish fulfillment.
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What I find curious is that so much time and vitriol is spent on the web
attacking theism,
while so much money is spent on ai and computers to simulate humans, when
nobody has ever shown or proven that computers can be conscious.
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its agent, so that the I plays the brain in thought much like a violin is
played by a violinist.
This also answers Heidegger's life-long search for
an answer to the question "what is being?"
Being is "I am" or essence+existence.
Dr.Rog
brain, being
its agent, so that the I plays the brain in thought much like a violin is
played by a violinist.
This also answers Heidegger's life-long search for
an answer to the question "what is being?"
Being is "I am" or essence+existence.
Dr. Rog
which then thinks much as a violin is
played by a violinist.
This also answers Heidigger's life-long search for
an answer to the question "what is being?"
Being is "I am" or essence+existence.
Dr. Roger B Clough NIST (ret.) [1/1/2000]
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subjectively)
Example: you know who Obama is because you have met him.
Dr. Roger B Clough NIST (ret.) [1/1/2000]
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point homunculus (the perceiver).
It is also well known that Leibniz referred to the myriad
of microscopic organisms seen in a microscope as
vderying his view of the world as the many in the one
(the monad).
Dr. Roger B Clough NIST (ret.) [1/1/2000]
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f any possibility of overall
governance.
See
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Hi - Roger Clough
All current theories of mind are objective (materialist) since they do not
include the first person singular.
Consciousness or Mind is nonobjective or subjective, since it is the
perceptions by the first person singular.
Only Leibniz has a philosophy of mind (subjectivity
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