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Peter asks:
Tom! You talk as if you're not even there...or even
here.where are you? ;-)
Tom T:
How should I know? Have no answer to that question that would make
any
sense. Thanks for
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---I agree with you, that is what it was like; and it is hard to
imagine someone like that being treated like shit, which is what
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He gave a vision of this new
programme in which first one group
of 500 Yogic Flyers will fly for an hour, then
they'll go and rest. Then, a second
group of 500 Yogic Flyers will
Wednesday, August 10, 2005
Tapping into TM
Filmmaker David Lynch wants to share with schools the benefits he says he's
reaped
from Transcendental Meditation.
By PETER LARSEN
The Orange County Register
Filmmaker David Lynch makes movies that unfold like dreams, surreal and
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I wish the Christians would stop saying that their way is better
than anyone else's. It gets very boring, and it is untrue. All
people can really
1. Pilot deserved to die. Earthworms on that hill deserved to die. For me,
it was mostly a serious OH SHIT!! moment. No purpose at all. Bummer, eh?
2. Nope, just relaxing.
3. Nope, just relaxing. Same with me.
4. What recent physical incarnation? That was an alien android, you fool!
1. Pilot deserved to die. Earthworms on that hill deserved to die. For me,
it was mostly a serious OH SHIT!! moment. No purpose at all. Bummer, eh?
2. Nope, just relaxing.
3. Nope, just relaxing.
4. What recent physical incarnation? That was an alien android, you fool!
Don't take the
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I spent two months in traction in a hospital
(alongwith John Hagelin) when I was 17. Every night around10:30 pm a
healing "angel" would appear in the centerof our four bed room and radiate
such sweet healingenergy for several minutes then it would switch offand
she/he would move on.
Intention seems to play a BIG part doesn't
it? -I don't know. I would suppose that one should have
the desire for enlightenment, or even if one were enlightened it wouldn't mean
anything. Like if you own a Ferrari, but couldn't give a damn, then it wouldn't
mean anything to you. You
Did you really spend time thinking
about these things? They aren't mysteries in the sense of real mysteries,
not because they aren't certainly mysterious, but because they're all just your
imagination.
For instance, you can take twenty
ingredients and give them to a chef and say "make
I actually hada very clear ritam bhara pragya
experience in thehospital. I didn't know what it was of course
untilabout 2 years later when I was on my TTC and heard MMYtalk about
it. -Does anyone ever fall into half sleep when
meditating and witness dreaming taking place? It's a
An old man, a boy and a donkey were going to town.
The boy rode on the donkey and the old man walked.
As they went along, they passed some people who
remarked that it was a shame the old man was walking
and the boy was riding. The man and boy thought that
maybe the critics were right, so they
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The Tower thang will be a revenue generator (hopefully), and
its not TM revenues that are funding it.
To take this tower thing seriously
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You are free, of course, to live your life any way
you want. However, I might suggest to you that by
taking this stance you are setting
forwarded text also included
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2005 10:33:13 -0500
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On Aug 11, 2005, at 1:38 AM, cardemaister wrote:
Cool! Some yogasuutras are obviously de facto direct quotations
from tattva-samaasa.
Before the study of YS begins, one is supposed to know and understand
the tattva-samasa, otherwise you can't really understand the YS. So
it's not surprising
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That's what I thought at first, but it became clear
after a while that CC, GC, and UC were labels for
certain distinct types of
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Eventually, absolutely. I am convinced that one of
the key elements involved in realization of one's
own
enlightenment involves making that jump from
trusting
others more than one trusts one's own perceptions to
trusting one's own
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To take this tower thing seriously shows a pretty
serious disconnect
with reality. TMO officials have gotten off for the
past 5 yrs or so
showing these impressive ego-phallic plans but
that's as far as it's
gotten and will ever get.
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Eventually, absolutely. I am convinced that one of
the key elements involved in realization of one's
own
enlightenment involves making that jump from
trusting
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--- markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
To take this tower thing seriously shows a pretty
serious disconnect
with reality. TMO officials have gotten off for the
past 5 yrs or so
showing these
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Why should I think that my perceptions are all that hot?
You are free, of course, to live your life any way
you want. However, I might
On Aug 11, 2005, at 6:35 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
Others can comment if they'd like. One's mileage may,
of course, vary on this subject, but I'd suspect that
those here who have experienced awakenings would tend
to agree that a certain level of self-trust is neces-
sary for the realization to
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I think this self-trust thing in regard to realization
is a bit off. Trust is an emotional/mental assumptive
act. You have to trust when there is doubt for
whatever reason. It's hard to doubt your own
experience, even in
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He gave a vision of this new
programme in which first one group
of 500 Yogic Flyers will fly for
On Aug 11, 2005, at 8:17 AM, Vaj wrote:
It's ciritcal fine point.
Should have been:
It's a critical fine point. ;-)
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Note: forwarded message attached.
TM news media coverage summary
by US Peace Government Media Team
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Global Country of World Peace9 August 2005
On 9 August 2005 Global Country of World Peace reported: Positive, in-depth
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The Tower thang will be a revenue generator (hopefully), and
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You are free, of course, to live your life any way
you want.
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I've always felt that much of the craziness
emanating from the TMO
over the past 25 years came about because the people
around MMY
didn't reign him in when these ideas came out of his
mouth.
I haven't been around MMY enough to know
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I've always felt that much of the craziness
emanating from the TMO
over the past 25 years came about because the people
around MMY
didn't reign him in
Peter writes:
I think this self-trust thing in regard to realization
is a bit off. Trust is an emotional/mental assumptive
act. You have to trust when there is doubt for
whatever reason. It's hard to doubt your own
experience, even in waking state. But doubting pure
existence itself is even more
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I've always felt that much of the craziness
emanating from the TMO
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When you dig for water and get
oil, you will not appreciate it and just through it
away. I wonder what would happen today if someone dug
for oil with MMY out of complete and total sincerity
and would not budge one inch until
Tom T writes:
The two
definitions that concern the real meaning of the word trust are as
follows. The first is information or knowledge received from the
intuitive part of the brain. The second and maybe most important is
action taken regardless of the consequences. In my experience the
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If someone only allows yes-men to stay around, then they get what
they want.
And what they deserve. Karmically and in every
other sense...
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On my TTC
(LaAntilla, 1972) somebody got up and expressed
discomfort regarding bowing down to Guru Dev at the
end of the puja because they were Jewish. He was
sincerely asking MMY for an understanding that would
resolve
This Plan is Cancelled.
The area of Jabalpur lies in an EarthQuake active zone.
Hence, the Indian government has rejected the application for making the highest building over there.
Regards
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/Rco akSare/ is the 39. verse of the famous
/asya-vaamasya -suukta/ of Rgveda. The RSi of that suukta
is /Diirgha-tamas/(?long lasting
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But more importantly doubt/no doubt has to do with
mind. Realization is outside of mind. It is not an
experience within any objective or
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But doubting pure
existence itself is even more difficult! To say I
doubt my own existence is a bit of a paradox, of
course, because
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But more importantly doubt/no doubt has to do
with
mind. Realization is outside of mind.
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This Plan is Cancelled.
The area of Jabalpur lies in an EarthQuake active zone.
Hence, the Indian government has rejected the application for making
the highest building over there.
Regards
ColdWater
The
TorquoiseB writes:
What about those who *don't* trust their intuition?
Tom T writes:
It will have you either way. You can only push it away for a while
until it can no longer be ignored. It is like trying to dam up a
stream, eventually you have to let some water out or the dam busts.
This can not
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But more importantly doubt/no doubt has to do with
mind.
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Notice the rather extreme irony here:
On the one hand, Barry is advocating that one
trust one's own experience rather than depending
on authorities to validate it
And on
Judy writes:
And on the other hand, he's telling them that
they cannot trust their experience that they are
not enlightened and ought instead to accept the
authorities' assertion that they are already
enlightened.
Tom T writes:
The idea you are not enlightened is not an experience it is an idea.
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On my TTC
(LaAntilla, 1972) somebody got up and expressed
discomfort regarding bowing down to Guru Dev at
the
end of the puja because they were Jewish. He was
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Judy writes:
And on the other hand, he's telling them that
they cannot trust their experience that they are
not enlightened and ought instead to accept the
authorities' assertion that they are already
enlightened.
Tom T
TurquoiseB writes:
What about those who *don't* trust their intuition?
Tom T writes:
It will have you either way. You can only push it away for a while
until it can no longer be ignored. It is like trying to dam up a
stream, eventually you have to let some water out or the dam busts.
This
On Aug 11, 2005, at 9:56 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
It also seems to me that, interestingly, whole spirit-
ual traditions -- those that preach dogma and strict
adherence to dogma or to what teachersez -- seem to
be *founded* on trying to dam up the stream. Their
sadhana is *based* on denying
On Aug 11, 2005, at 9:51 AM, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis wrote:
The idea you are not enlightened is not an experience it is an idea.
The experience of awakening is very real, very visceral. It is
profoundly based in the physiology. The idea of not being enlightened
is a story. Tell me
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On Aug 11, 2005, at 9:56 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
It also seems to me that, interestingly, whole spirit-
ual traditions -- those that preach dogma and strict
adherence to dogma or to what teachersez -- seem to
be
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On Aug 11, 2005, at 10:16 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
Not if what the 'teachersez' is a spontaneous upadesha aimed directly
at what you are experiencing. These are intimate matters and if truly
compassionate they will hit their mark.
Agreed. That's a different situation.
And rare in the West as
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Judy writes:
And on the other hand, he's telling them that
they cannot trust their experience that they are
not enlightened and ought instead to accept the
authorities' assertion that they are
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snip
It also seems to me that, interestingly, whole spirit-
ual traditions -- those that preach dogma and strict
adherence to dogma or to what teachersez -- seem to
be *founded* on trying to dam up the stream. Their
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On Aug 11, 2005, at 9:51 AM, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis wrote:
The idea you are not enlightened is not an experience it is an
idea. The experience of awakening is very real, very visceral. It
is profoundly based
It's pretty obvious that you have never experienced
satsang (and that's wise because you'd never be able
to handle it).
Handle it meaning, according to Barry, accepting what
the authorities tell you.
Not at all. You obviously didn't read what I wrote.
(And in this case, if he had
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Judy writes:
And on the other hand, he's telling them that
they cannot trust their experience that they are
not
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It also seems to me that, interestingly, whole spirit-
ual traditions -- those that preach dogma and strict
adherence to dogma or to
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Aug 11, 2005, at 9:51 AM, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis wrote:
The idea you are not enlightened is not an experience it is an
idea.
The experience of awakening is very real, very visceral. It is
profoundly based
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think this self-trust thing in regard to realization
is a bit off. Trust is an emotional/mental assumptive
act. You have to trust when there is doubt for
whatever reason. It's hard to doubt your own
experience, even in
Tom T writes: The experience of awakening is very real, very
visceral. It is profoundly based in the physiology.
Judy writes:
So is the experience of ignorance.
Tom T: Again, ignorance is not an experience it is an idea with a
story. Tell me in detail how you experience this ignorance. Where and
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Could be. As Llundrub's and my exchange locally
demonstrates, waking
up is dependent on
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Judy writes:
And on the other hand,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's pretty obvious that you have never experienced
satsang (and that's wise because you'd never be able
to handle it).
Handle it meaning, according to Barry, accepting what
the authorities tell you.
Not
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It's pretty obvious that you have never experienced
satsang...
snip
(And in this case, if he had been paying attention,
he would know I have indeed experienced it.)
Ok. In exactly what spiritual tradition and
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It also seems to me that, interestingly, whole spirit-
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This new structure is capable of better and more truthfully relating
to the world than the previous structure. I think that it is an
important cornerstone in the evolution of our mind to learn to trust
oneself more
I have read this entire thread, something I would not normally do,
and I
declare my brain to be well and truly fried. The really interesting
part for me is
this Barry-Judy thing. What's their story? Do they really despise
each other?
Why? How did it all begin? Did they ever have a little
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It's pretty obvious that you have never experienced
satsang (and that's wise because you'd never be able
to handle it).
Handle
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have read this entire thread, something I would not normally
do...
I would sooner have no mind at all. But I do love soap operas.
LOL
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Tom T writes: The experience of awakening is very real, very
visceral. It is profoundly based in the physiology.
Judy writes:
So is the experience of ignorance.
Tom T: Again, ignorance is not
--- feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have read this entire thread, something I would
not normally do,
and I
declare my brain to be well and truly fried. The
really interesting
part for me is
this Barry-Judy thing. What's their story? Do they
really despise
each other?
Why? How
--- tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis
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Tom T writes: The experience of awakening is very
real, very
visceral. It is profoundly based in the physiology.
Judy writes:
So is the experience of ignorance.
Tom T: Again, ignorance is not an experience it is
an idea
On Aug 11, 2005, at 10:40 AM, jim_flanegin wrote:
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On Aug 11, 2005, at 9:51 AM, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis wrote:
The idea you are not enlightened is not an experience it is an
idea.
The experience of awakening is
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I have read this entire thread, something I would not normally do,
and I declare my brain to be well and truly fried. The really
interesting part for me is this Barry-Judy thing. What's their
story? Do they really
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Be specific please. What do you know and how does it appear in the
physiology. This is not a trap but genuine inquiry. I really want
know how
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It's pretty obvious that you have never experienced
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Reaction formation. They're actually crazy about each
other! ;-)
Actually, I do kinda admire Judy's intellect. She's
often smart and incisive and well-stated. It's just
that at the same time, based on ten years of obser-
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Be specific please. What do you know and how does it appear in
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Reaction formation. They're actually crazy about each
other! ;-)
Actually, I do kinda admire Judy's intellect. She's
often smart and
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Aug 11, 2005, at 10:40 AM, jim_flanegin wrote:
Same question, then: where and how is the experience of not being
enlightened felt in the physiology?
It's felt by a feeler. Therefore it's dualistic. What is felt?
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Reaction formation. They're actually crazy about each
other! ;-)
On Aug 11, 2005, at 11:36 AM, jim_flanegin wrote:
Rather, the reason that I posed the question was because of my
personal belief based on experience, that if the idea or experience
of being unawakened can be identified and *localized* within the
physical body's physiology, it can be dealt
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Tom asks for details about this experience
Judy writes:
I'd characterize it generally as a feeling of
resistance. It can manifest in many different
ways, from butterflies in the stomach to
feeling drowsy to feeling hungry to feeling a
lack of physical energy, among other things, and
overall a
This below was well stated and goes
to the heart of your relationship. You,each of you lack something the
other has too much of. Barry, you throw the baby out with the bathwater and seem
to be intuitive, but foresake much of conventional logic. So lets call you
heart. Judy, you are a
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