--- In
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis"
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>
> Anonyff writes: snipped
> I have had the experience, over the long years, of becoming very
> unboounded and, as it says in the 9th mandala, "liquid, loveable,
and
> wise." It never lasted more
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>
> IMO this whole notion of non-attachment is merely a concept and who
> knows if anyone here truly even understands it and even if they
could,
> could they really explain it in such a way that the listener would
a)
> be
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002"
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- tom traynor wrote:
> > > >
> > > > What ever they attempt is
Anonyff writes: snipped
I have had the experience, over the long years, of becoming very
unboounded and, as it says in the 9th mandala, "liquid, loveable, and
wise." It never lasted more than maybe five minutes. During those
moments I experienced what I can only describe as an infinite flow, a
know
on 3/3/06 10:37 PM, anonyff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> FYI I have been reading and contributing to FF LIfe for at least 2
> years and probably more like 3+ (how long has it been around?).
Since Sept. 5, 2001 - 6 days before 9/11
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Tom (anonyff replied):
Sorry for the *tone* of my previous post, although I did mean it, in
that moment, exactly as I said it.
FYI I have been reading and contributing to FF LIfe for at least 2
years and probably more like 3+ (how long has it been around?). I just
changed my name and use the anon
Anonyff writes: snipped
Personally, I think there are as many forms of enlightenment as there
are people, I think that people still get angry, hungrly, lonely,
tired, irritable, sick, and that they act just as spontaneously as
anyone/everyone else and that all this constant intellectualizing is a
f
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>
> --- sparaig wrote:
> >
> > --- Gillam wrote:
> > >
> > > --- tom traynor wrote:
> > > >
> > > > What ever they attempt is easy and
> > > > simple as it just flows. How it unfolds is not revelant.
> > >
> > > So
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- sparaig wrote:
> >
> > --- Gillam wrote:
> > >
> > > --- tom traynor wrote:
> > > >
> > > > What ever they attempt is easy and
> > > > simple as it just flows. How it unfolds is not revelant.
> > >
> > > So I
--- sparaig wrote:
>
> --- Gillam wrote:
> >
> > --- tom traynor wrote:
> > >
> > > What ever they attempt is easy and
> > > simple as it just flows. How it unfolds is not revelant.
> >
> > So I may need to change my belief that Maharishi is
> > acting the way any entrepreneur would, expecting
>
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002"
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- tom traynor wrote:
> > > >
> > > > What ever they attempt
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wrote:
>
> --- tom traynor wrote:
> >
> > What ever they attempt is easy and
> > simple as it just flows. How it unfolds is not revelant.
>
> So I may need to change my belief that Maharishi is
> acting the way any entrep
--- In
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> judy writes: snipped
> And if he didn't, was it because the state of
> enlightenment makes everything seem easy and simple
> *when it really isn't*? Is it possible that the
> "easy and simple
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "anonyff" wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
> > "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > judy writes: snipped
> > > And if he didn't, was
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
> "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis"
> wrote:
> >
> > judy writes: snipped
> > And if he didn't, was it because the state of
> > enlightenment makes everything seem easy and simple
Personally, and in all seriousness, I still believe it is ALL
conjecture and overall, I'm sorry I spent so much of my life
believing in this stuff.
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "anonyff" wrote:
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>
> I'm sorry, with all due respect I'm going to take great exception
to
> this answer and to all answers that seem to reduce the
> life/mindset/emotional state of the "awake ones" to these kinds of
pat
> answers.
>
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
"tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis"
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>
> judy writes: snipped
> And if he didn't, was it because the state of
> enlightenment makes everything seem easy and simple
> *when it really isn't*? Is it possible that the
> "easy and simple"
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam"
> wrote:
> >
> > --- tom traynor wrote:
> > >
> > > What ever they attempt is easy and
> > > simple as it just flows. How it unfolds is not revelant.
> >
> > S
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam"
> wrote:
> >
> > --- tom traynor wrote:
> > >
> > > What ever they attempt is easy and
> > > simple as it just flows. How it unfolds is not revelant.
> >
> > S
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- tom traynor wrote:
> >
> > What ever they attempt is easy and
> > simple as it just flows. How it unfolds is not revelant.
>
> So I may need to change my belief that Maharishi is
> acting the way any entrep
--- tom traynor wrote:
>
> What ever they attempt is easy and
> simple as it just flows. How it unfolds is not revelant.
So I may need to change my belief that Maharishi is
acting the way any entrepreneur would, expecting
his products and services to be lapped up by a hungry
public. If MMY were
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> So I guess that's another question: Did he or didn't
> he know how tough it was going to be?
>
> And if he didn't, was it because the state of
> enlightenment makes everything seem easy and simple
> *when it really i
On Mar 3, 2006, at 12:17 PM, Patrick Gillam wrote:--- Vaj wrote: In the 80's, I was invited by three close friends--an old TM teacher, an MIU grad and a Sidha, to confront Robin Woodsworth Carlsen who was then living in an apartment in Washington DC. It was actually my first time at debunk
judy writes: snipped
And if he didn't, was it because the state of
enlightenment makes everything seem easy and simple
*when it really isn't*? Is it possible that the
"easy and simple" sense applies on some level other
than the practical one of achieving a goal, but
that the person who is enlight
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> --- Vaj wrote:
> >
> > In the 80's, I was invited by three close friends--an old
> > TM teacher, an MIU grad and a Sidha, to confront Robin
> > Woodsworth Carlsen who was then living in an apartment
> > in Washi
--- Vaj wrote:
>
> In the 80's, I was invited by three close friends--an old TM teacher,
> an MIU grad and a Sidha, to confront Robin Woodsworth Carlsen who was
> then living in an apartment in Washington DC. It was actually my
> first time at debunking a claim of enlightenment
So Vaj, you'v
--- Vaj wrote:
>
> Gillam wrote:
>
> > --- Vaj wrote:
> >>
> >> dying is easier than I thought :-)
> >
> > Now there's an ability that may come in handy someday.
>
> All the better reason to practice dying now :-).
I've pursued enlightenment in hopes it would make life
easier. Funny that its u
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"
> wrote:
> >
On Mar 3, 2006, at 10:24 AM, Patrick Gillam wrote:--- Vaj wrote: dying is easier than I thought :-) Now there's an ability that may come in handy someday. All the better reason to practice dying now :-).
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>
> --- authfriend wrote:
> >
> > Is that sense of "easy and simple" ever misleading?
> > I'm thinking of MMY, and wondering whether that's why
> > he assumed most everyone in the world would take to
> > TM as soon
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"
wrote:
> > >
> >
> > > Is that sense of "easy and simple" ever misleading?
> > > I'm think
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> >
>
> > Is that sense of "easy and simple" ever misleading?
> > I'm thinking of MMY, and wondering whether that's why
> > he assumed most everyone in th
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"
> wrote:
>
> > Much more becomes available, simply by placing the attention on
it.
> > No doubt sidhis and such powers are more easily expressed in such
a
>
--- Vaj wrote:
>
> dying is easier than I thought :-)
Now there's an ability that may come in handy someday.
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--- authfriend wrote:
>
> Is that sense of "easy and simple" ever misleading?
> I'm thinking of MMY, and wondering whether that's why
> he assumed most everyone in the world would take to
> TM as soon as they heard about it, that governments
> would leap at it, and so on.
It's extremely common fo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> >
>
> > Is that sense of "easy and simple" ever misleading?
> > I'm thinking of MMY, and wondering whether that's why
> > he assumed most everyone in th
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote:
> > >
> > > Just look at the cross-
> > > cultural range of spiritual experiences -- do Native
> > > Am
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote:
> >
> > Just look at the cross-
> > cultural range of spiritual experiences -- do Native
> > Americans cognize Shiva and Brahma when they have
> > visions? Do people
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity wrote:
> >
> > Another man I met had an appearance of Shirdi Sai Baba.
> > Again he had never seen a picture of him, had nothing to
> > do with Hinduism, and only recogn
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Just look at the cross-
> cultural range of spiritual experiences -- do Native
> Americans cognize Shiva and Brahma when they have
> visions? Do people brought up Catholic cognize
> Krishna when they have visions? No,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Another man I met had an appearance of Shirdi Sai Baba.
> Again he had never seen a picture of him, had nothing to
> do with Hinduism, and only recognized him when he saw the
> picture later in a Sai Baba center (while
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "hugheshugo"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> It's interesting to hear that the power of persuasion might
> be at work here, as I had a series of experiences early on
> in my "career" that showed me a text book step-by-step
> evolution, clearly deliniated sta
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "hugheshugo"
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> What really impressed me about the teachings is an experience of the
> veda I had once, very powerful and definately real as I couldn't have
> imagined it if I'd tried. The thing is, the only veda I knew of at
> the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > To bring up Suzanne Segal again, that's an admonition she
> > hammered toward the end of her book -- "seeing things
> > as they really are." But she never elaborated on it.
> >
> > Sometimes I think the work of B
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"
> wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam"
> > wrote:
> > > --- jim_flanegin wrote:
> > > > --- Rick Archer wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Se
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> On Mar 2, 2006, at 4:30 PM, sparaig wrote:
>
> > As far as I can tell, Vaj is misinterpretting/over-interpretting some
> > text taht talks about how even a nail driven into one's hand won't
> > takethem out of samadhi. But
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam"
> wrote:
> > --- jim_flanegin wrote:
> > > --- Rick Archer wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Seems to me that enlightenment is a matter of seeing
> > > > things clearly.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Is that sense of "easy and simple" ever misleading?
> I'm thinking of MMY, and wondering whether that's why
> he assumed most everyone in the world would take to
> TM as soon as they heard about it, that governments
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Much more becomes available, simply by placing the attention on it.
> No doubt sidhis and such powers are more easily expressed in such a
> state, but oddly enough, living a non-dual reality, where we are no
> lo
on 3/2/06 8:48 PM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>>
>> on 3/2/06 5:46 PM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>>> I used to receive a hand-typed newsletter from someone on Purusha
>>> and he also described a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- jim_flanegin wrote:
> >
> > --- Rick Archer wrote:
> > >
> > Seems to me that enlightenment is a matter of seeing
> > > things clearly. It doesn't mean you're Superman.
> > >
> > That's as good and elegant a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- jim_flanegin wrote:
> >
> > --- Rick Archer wrote:
> > >
> > Seems to me that enlightenment is a matter of seeing
> > > things clearly. It doesn't mean you're Superman.
> > >
> > That's as good and elegant a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> on 3/2/06 5:46 PM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > I used to receive a hand-typed newsletter from someone on Purusha
> > and he also described a similar story with M. albeit that this
> > would take place over
On Mar 2, 2006, at 8:25 PM, Rick Archer wrote:on 3/2/06 5:46 PM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:On Mar 2, 2006, at 6:07 PM, Rick Archer wrote:No. I’m sure such things are possible. There are stories in the Puranas too. My only point is that I’m not convinced that such an ability is an essential p
--- jim_flanegin wrote:
>
> --- Rick Archer wrote:
> >
> Seems to me that enlightenment is a matter of seeing
> > things clearly. It doesn't mean you're Superman.
> >
> That's as good and elegant a definition as I've heard-- seeing things
> clearly. Plain and simple.
To bring up Suzanne Segal ag
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 7 lifetimes to reach Cosmic Consciousness
on 3/2/06 5:46 PM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mar 2, 2006, at 6:07 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
No. I’m sure such things are possible. There are stories in the Puranas too. My only point is that I’m not convinced
On Mar 2, 2006, at 6:07 PM, Rick Archer wrote:No. I’m sure such things are possible. There are stories in the Puranas too. My only point is that I’m not convinced that such an ability is an essential prerequisite for enlightenment. But that’s really just an opinion based on my current knowledge a
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 7 lifetimes to reach Cosmic Consciousness
on 3/2/06 3:53 PM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Rick, wasn't it you who shared the story of M. and the meeting with another meditation teacher whose students could go into an insensate samadhi?
Yes, I told
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> On Mar 2, 2006, at 4:30 PM, sparaig wrote:
>
> > As far as I can tell, Vaj is misinterpretting/over-interpretting
some
> > text taht talks about how even a nail driven into one's hand won't
> > takethem out of samadhi. Bu
On Mar 2, 2006, at 2:47 PM, Rick Archer wrote:on 3/2/06 1:38 PM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well let's not take these two items out of context. The nail story of Vimalananda refers to a person who claimed the ability to be in a certain type of samadhi. The fact that he did experience pain in
On Mar 2, 2006, at 4:30 PM, sparaig wrote:As far as I can tell, Vaj is misinterpretting/over-interpretting some text taht talks about how even a nail driven into one's hand won't takethem out of samadhi. But that's the definition of CC. Screaming isn't relevant to witnessing. Actually the quot
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> on 3/2/06 3:30 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > As far as I can tell, Vaj is misinterpretting/over-interpretting
some
> > text taht talks about how even a nail driven into one's hand won't
> > takethe
on 3/2/06 3:30 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> As far as I can tell, Vaj is misinterpretting/over-interpretting some
> text taht talks about how even a nail driven into one's hand won't
> takethem out of samadhi. But that's the definition of CC. Screaming
> isn't relevant to witnessing
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> on 3/2/06 1:38 PM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > Well let's not take these two items out of context. The nail
story of
> > Vimalananda refers to a person who claimed the ability to be in a
certain type
>
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> On Mar 2, 2006, at 1:39 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
>
> > but I have a hard time
> > believing that people like Eckhart Tolle and Bernadette Roberts
are
> > not
> > enlightened merely because they couldn't be oblivious to ha
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> on 3/2/06 11:57 AM, jim_flanegin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
> > perhaps I felt it in bad
> >> form to talk of my own pointing-out and recognition, brag about
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 7 lifetimes to reach Cosmic Consciousness
on 3/2/06 1:38 PM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well let's not take these two items out of context. The nail story of Vimalananda refers to a person who claimed the ability to be in a certain type of samadhi
On Mar 2, 2006, at 1:39 PM, Rick Archer wrote:but I have a hard time believing that people like Eckhart Tolle and Bernadette Roberts are not enlightened merely because they couldn't be oblivious to having a nail driven through their foot or that they cast a shadow. I think he's raising the bar to
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> on 3/2/06 12:45 PM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > I don't think it's like that. I don't think it's *ever*
> > been like that. Shankara farted and shat just like
> > everyone else does.
>
> I read that
on 3/2/06 12:45 PM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> I don't think it's like that. I don't think it's *ever*
> been like that. Shankara farted and shat just like
> everyone else does.
I read that he had an anal fistula that bled and caused him a great deal of
discomfort.
---
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
Seems to me that enlightenment is a matter of seeing
> things clearly. It doesn't mean you're Superman.
>
That's as good and elegant a definition as I've heard-- seeing things
clearly. Plain and simple.
-
on 3/2/06 11:57 AM, jim_flanegin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> perhaps I felt it in bad
>> form to talk of my own pointing-out and recognition, brag about it
> in
>> public or discuss the details of how the View was tested a
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 7 lifetimes to reach Cosmic Consciousness
on 3/2/06 11:14 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Would you like to see the scar on my ass?
I'd love to show that to you! :-)
Reminds me of Forrest Gump and LBJ.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote:
> >
> > so who regularly disses who for what claim of experience or non-
> > experience? My own take on people who claim to be in full-blown
> > brahman conscious
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> so who regularly disses who for what claim of experience or non-
> experience? My own take on people who claim to be in full-blown
> brahman consciousness is that MMY has, from what Ihave heard, said
> that someone who
On Mar 1, 2006, at 10:53 PM, sparaig wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mar 1, 2006, at 5:39 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer wrote: on 2/28/06 10:32 AM, wmurphy77 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: YOu would be correct
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> On Mar 1, 2006, at 5:39 PM, sparaig wrote:
>
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> on 2/28/06 10:32 AM, wmurphy77 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>>
> >>> YOu would be correct if you we
Which only speaks to YOUR experience and not that of some other person,
of course.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I would hasten to point out that I have also experienced satsangs
> which were very positive and evolutionary in my mere opinion. The
> p
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
> On Mar 1, 2006, at 11:38 AM, Patrick Gillam wrote:
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> > --- Rick Archer wrote:
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> >> jim_flanegin wrote:
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> >>> Just curious Rick if you would elaborate on "the Robin Carlson
> >>> legacy". Thanks
> >>>
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002"
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> "I don't know if this is true about the Travis studies, but it used
to
> be policy at MUM that any study reg. higher states could only
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> on 3/1/06 10:02 AM, jim_flanegin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
> > wrote:
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> >> on 3/1/06 9:06 AM, authfriend at jstein@ wrote:
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> >>> FWIW, I've neve
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
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> > on 3/1/06 9:06 AM, authfriend at jstein@ wrote:
> > >
> > > FWIW, I've never encountered it in TM, to the
> > > contrary. What I've observed has
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> on 3/1/06 9:06 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> > FWIW, I've never encountered it in TM, to the
> > contrary. What I've observed has been a
> > tendency to be deferential to those who
> > claimed or
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On Feb 28, 2006, at 11:05 PM, purushaz wrote:
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> > ---Statement below (Enlightened person has an option to stop
pain) is
> > incorrect. Enlightenment does not imply particular (or any)
Siddhis,
> > which have to do wit
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote:
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"
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> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77
wrote:
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> > > > --- In F
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "purushaz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> ---Statement below (Enlightened person has an option to stop pain) is
> incorrect. Enlightenment does not imply particular (or any) Siddhis,
> which have to do with relative endeavors.. Why stop with control over
> pa
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On Feb 28, 2006, at 12:48 PM, authfriend wrote:
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB
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> >>
> >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> --- In FairfieldLif
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > > > In other words, when someone claims to be enlightened,
> > > > > we should just accept it without question?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > If I say I have brown hair, why is that so much easier to
accept,
> > > > than
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On Feb 28, 2006, at 12:48 PM, authfriend wrote:
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB
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> >>
> >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> --- In FairfieldLif
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"
> > wrote:
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"
> > > wrote:
> > > >
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> on 2/28/06 11:40 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> Yes, many would rather wallow in the inertia of their 'seeker'
> >>
> >>
> >> identity, proclaiming enlightenment can't be so, because
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity wrote:
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> > > That's it. That was also Papaji's point stating too many
> > > are hanging around a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"
> wrote:
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> >
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 wrote:
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > on 2/28/06 10:32 AM, wmurphy77 at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
> > > >
> > >
On Mar 1, 2006, at 5:39 PM, sparaig wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: on 2/28/06 10:32 AM, wmurphy77 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: YOu would be correct if you were talking about the Gita where MMY talks about many 'births' to realize Being, that i
--- In
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> In a conversation I had with a priest in a Tamil temple he suggested
> that dong the Sidhis can burn off 7 lifetimes of Karma in one liftime.
> Go figure. Makes some sense to me. Tom T
>
One c
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
> wrote:
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> > on 2/28/06 10:32 AM, wmurphy77 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >
> > > YOu would be correct if you were talking about the Gita where
MMY
> > > talks
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On Mar 1, 2006, at 12:39 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
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> > on 3/1/06 10:57 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> >> I would hasten to point out that I have also experienced satsangs
> >> which were very positive and evolu
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
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> on 2/28/06 10:32 AM, wmurphy77 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > YOu would be correct if you were talking about the Gita where MMY
> > talks about many 'births' to realize Being, that is death to
> > materiality an
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