[FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-04 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig lengli...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: On Feb 2, 2009, at 2:13 AM, sparaig wrote: Median income for physics PHD

[FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-04 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: On

[FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: On Feb 2, 2009, at 2:13 AM, sparaig wrote: Median income for physics PHD with 20+ years of experience: $125,000 ANd Hagelin isn't any old

[FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-02 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On top of that we're now importing scientists from India and China thanks to runaway use of H1B visas which further depresses salaries... The Corporation gets what corporation wants... While not explicit racism, this

[FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-02 Thread mainstream20016
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ??? i was talking with a friend about this just today, and she reminded me that money management is never the forte of these spiritual teachers, from whatever perspective they teach, especially

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-02 Thread Vaj
On Feb 2, 2009, at 9:54 AM, grate.swan wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On top of that we're now importing scientists from India and China thanks to runaway use of H1B visas which further depresses salaries... The Corporation gets what corporation

[FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Feb 2, 2009, at 2:13 AM, sparaig wrote: Median income for physics PHD with 20+ years of experience: $125,000 ANd Hagelin isn't any old median physicist, despite what people here like to pretend. He's been out

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-02 Thread Vaj
On Feb 2, 2009, at 12:11 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: Hagelin could could be making far more than that by taking a teaching research post at any major research university... With all due respect, Lawson, you clearly have no idea what professors are paid, or even people in prestigious research labs

[FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-02 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Feb 2, 2009, at 2:13 AM, sparaig wrote: Median income for physics PHD with 20+ years of experience: $125,000 ANd Hagelin isn't any old median physicist, despite what people here like to pretend. He's been out

[FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-02 Thread boo_lives
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: On Feb 2, 2009, at 2:13 AM, sparaig wrote: Median income for physics PHD with 20+ years of experience: $125,000 ANd Hagelin isn't any old

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-02 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Feb 2, 2009, at 3:45 PM, boo_lives wrote: He's made innumerable public statements that would immediately disqualify him from consideration from any quality university faculty position. What physics has he published recently? Nothing and that's crucial to faculty positions. Also, we know

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-02 Thread Vaj
On Feb 2, 2009, at 4:32 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Feb 2, 2009, at 2:13 AM, sparaig wrote: Median income for physics PHD with 20+ years of experience: $125,000 ANd Hagelin isn't any old median physicist, despite what

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-02 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 1:23 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ??? i was talking with a friend about this just today, and she

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-02 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of sparaig Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 10:23 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ??? No one ever got rich, but the top cats are pretty well taken

[FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-02 Thread boo_lives
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Arhata Osho arhatafreespe...@... wrote: Everyone has a sex life- always more than we know - right Barack! so for now, all we have is the Maharishi's word that he was actually a life long celibate. absolutely no proof to the contrary.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-02 Thread Kirk
If he works those hips like he works his brain. - Original Message - From: Sal Sunshine To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 3:55 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ??? On Feb 2, 2009, at 3:45 PM, boo_lives wrote

[FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 1:23 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: new books

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-02 Thread Vaj
On Feb 2, 2009, at 2:13 AM, sparaig wrote: Median income for physics PHD with 20+ years of experience: $125,000 ANd Hagelin isn't any old median physicist, despite what people here like to pretend. He's been out of the field for how long? And with a tarnished reputation for peddling

[FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-02 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 1:23 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: new books

[FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-01 Thread do.rflex
...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Smith Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 9:33 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ??? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , ysoy10li ysoy10li

[FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-01 Thread TurquoiseB
---Any new books on Maharishi in the last year ?? I had read here maybe a few years ago that the infamous Judy (no, not Stein...) had mentioned she wouldn't publish her book about her alleged experiences with M. until after his passing... She changed her mind and

[FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe Smith msilver1...@... wrote: snip Just being a jerk Rick, but it has been a year now. Personally, I don't think the book will ever be published. FWIW, that it's been a year isn't really a good reason to assume the book will never be published. How

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-01 Thread Vaj
On Feb 1, 2009, at 12:43 AM, enlightened_dawn11 wrote: oh i see, since there is nothing but hearsay regarding the possibility of Maharishi's sexual escapades, you are more comfortable believing the he fucked around rumors, instead of believing the he didn't fuck around rumors? did i get that

[FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Feb 1, 2009, at 12:43 AM, enlightened_dawn11 wrote: oh i see, since there is nothing but hearsay regarding the possibility of Maharishi's sexual escapades, you are more comfortable believing the he fucked around

[FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-01 Thread lurkernomore20002000
Whatever you might believe, if this were any kind of formal hearing, the charges would be thrown out immediately. No first person account. Strictly hearsay. Judy never gave a first person account. Account was only through an interview with a third party. That person seemed to have an

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-01 Thread Vaj
On Feb 1, 2009, at 9:34 AM, Vaj wrote: On Feb 1, 2009, at 12:43 AM, enlightened_dawn11 wrote: oh i see, since there is nothing but hearsay regarding the possibility of Maharishi's sexual escapades, you are more comfortable believing the he fucked around rumors, instead of believing the he

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-01 Thread Vaj
On Feb 1, 2009, at 10:22 AM, lurkernomore20002000 wrote: Whatever you might believe, if this were any kind of formal hearing, the charges would be thrown out immediately. No first person account. Strictly hearsay. Judy never gave a first person account. Account was only through an

[FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-01 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: My suspicion is that those who believe that Maharishi couldn't possibly have fucked around believe this because they believe he was enlightened and if the rumor were true, that would upset their definition of what

[FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Feb 1, 2009, at 10:22 AM, lurkernomore20002000 wrote: Whatever you might believe, if this were any kind of formal hearing, the charges would be thrown out immediately. No first person account. Strictly hearsay. Judy

[FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: My suspicion is that those who believe that Maharishi couldn't possibly have fucked around believe this because they believe he was enlightened and

[FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-01 Thread enlightened_dawn11
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Feb 1, 2009, at 12:43 AM, enlightened_dawn11 wrote: oh i see, since there is nothing but hearsay regarding the possibility of Maharishi's sexual escapades, you are more comfortable believing the he fucked around rumors,

[FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-01 Thread enlightened_dawn11
and we have those, like me, and i suspect the majority of those who practice TM, who just don't know, and until something is proved one way or another, don't care- unlike the Maharishi bashers who are content to climb into their igloos of ignorance and proclaim endlessly that the Maharishi

[FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-01 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_re...@... wrote: -that- is your standard, that something has been published in newspapers?? unbelievable...and what about all of those health benefits of TM that i have read published in newspapers? sorry, that just doesn't cut

[FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-01 Thread Richard M
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Feb 1, 2009, at 9:34 AM, Vaj wrote: On Feb 1, 2009, at 12:43 AM, enlightened_dawn11 wrote: oh i see, since there is nothing but hearsay regarding the possibility of Maharishi's sexual escapades, you are more

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-01 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Smith Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 1:57 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ??? Are you saying this with any evidence or authority Joe

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-01 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of TurquoiseB Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 4:49 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ??? The TBs don't believe the rumors because it would be impossible

[FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-01 Thread enlightened_dawn11
: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Smith Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 9:33 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi

[FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-01 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_re...@... wrote: and we have those, like me, and i suspect the majority of those who practice TM, who just don't know, and until something is proved one way or another, don't care- unlike the Maharishi bashers who are content to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-01 Thread Sal Sunshine
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_re...@... wrote: that- is your standard, that something has been published in newspapers?? unbelievable...and what about all of those health benefits of TM that i have read published in newspapers? sorry, that just doesn't cut it, and

[FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_reply@ wrote: -that- is your standard, that something has been published in newspapers?? unbelievable...and what about all of those health benefits of TM

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-01 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Feb 1, 2009, at 10:42 AM, Richard M wrote: The newspaper in question that you link to - the News of the World - has a reputation for being the pits of the pits of the UK gutter press. It's barely more than a comic. Yeah, but it's high-class journalism compared to the pits of the American

[FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-01 Thread curtisdeltablues
] On Behalf Of Joe Smith Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 1:57 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ??? Are you saying this with any evidence or authority Joe, or is this just the way you wish it were? Just being a jerk Rick

[FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-01 Thread Richard M
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote: On Feb 1, 2009, at 10:42 AM, Richard M wrote: The newspaper in question that you link to - the News of the World - has a reputation for being the pits of the pits of the UK gutter press. It's barely more than a

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-01 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Vaj Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 9:25 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ??? I would like to see some resolution on the matter since the charges

[FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-01 Thread enlightened_dawn11
so for now, all we have is the Maharishi's word that he was actually a life long celibate. absolutely no proof to the contrary. the rest is just rumors, and for a public figure who was in close proximity to thousands of people, some with agendas of their own, there are always lots of rumors.

[FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-01 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Smith Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 1:57 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-01 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of curtisdeltablues Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 11:10 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ??? Speaking of books, Curtis, I still think you could write

[FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-01 Thread Richard M
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ??? Are you saying this with any evidence or authority Joe, or is this just the way you wish it were? Just being a jerk Rick, but it has been a year now. Personally, I don't think

[FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-01 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of TurquoiseB Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 4:49 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-01 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard M Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 11:19 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ??? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife

[FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-01 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_re...@... wrote: i am curious why some of those here, like Vaj, and Curtis and geezerfreak and Barry feel it is so important to cling deperately to the possibility that the Maharishi was a liar in terms of his sex life? Cling

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-01 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of lurkernomore20002000 Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 11:25 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ??? You may be right. I wonder how many of us would

[FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: snip And is everyone here going to buy the book? I doubt it. There are just not enough people to support a published book. She could go the self published route, but again so much work just to get a lot of

[FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-01 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of curtisdeltablues Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 11:10 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: new books

[FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-01 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of lurkernomore20002000 Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 11:25 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: new

[FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-01 Thread enlightened_dawn11
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_reply@ wrote: i am curious why some of those here, like Vaj, and Curtis and geezerfreak and Barry feel it is so important to cling deperately

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-01 Thread Vaj
On Feb 1, 2009, at 11:51 AM, Rick Archer wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Vaj Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 9:25 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ??? I would like

[FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-01 Thread Richard M
Smith Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 1:57 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ??? Are you saying this with any evidence or authority Joe, or is this just the way you wish it were? Just being a jerk Rick, but it has

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-01 Thread Vaj
On Feb 1, 2009, at 11:33 AM, enlightened_dawn11 wrote: It's not considered hearsay when it's already been published in newspapers Dawn. -that- is your standard, that something has been published in newspapers?? unbelievable...and what about all of those health benefits of TM that i have

[FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-01 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_re...@... wrote: i am curious why some of those here, like Vaj, and Curtis and geezerfreak and Barry feel it is so important to cling deperately to the possibility that the Maharishi was a liar in terms of his sex life? I am

[FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-01 Thread enlightened_dawn11
1, 2009, at 11:51 AM, Rick Archer wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Vaj Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 9:25 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ??? I would like

[FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-01 Thread enlightened_dawn11
i stand corrected wrt your views on this one, though you as curtis make the blithe statement that the Mahairshi lied about so many things. same challenge to you-- come up with five of them that can be proved. about the rumors, who cares about rumors? not me, but others here use them as a

[FairfieldLife] [FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-01 Thread Arhata Osho
Everyone has a sex life- always more than we know - right Barack! so for now, all we have is the Maharishi's word that he was actually a life long celibate. absolutely no proof to the contrary. the rest is just rumors, and for a public figure who was in close

[FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-01 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 but actual provable lies. This standard is absurd in this context. I'll give you the ones that I know he made in my movement career that effected me personally. I am in no position to prove any of these to you especially considering

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-01 Thread Vaj
On Feb 1, 2009, at 11:42 AM, Richard M wrote: The obvious question for me, Vaj, is why you should be so enthusiastic about such a piece of tabloid journalism, when, relative to some belief you hold dear, you would I am sure be only be too quick to cry just tabloid journalism! (and probably

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-01 Thread Vaj
On Feb 1, 2009, at 12:09 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: I can't imagine anyone putting in the time and trouble for something which will be met with possibly legal battles from the movement and such high animosity from its members.

[FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-01 Thread grate . swan
Lots of pent up energy seems to be releasing, or imploding, on this topic. A perspective, not mine, but interesting to consider is that if the Maharishi created the ability in you to clearly see past present and future, then you could easily validate or reject any such claims personally, by just

[FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-01 Thread Richard M
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 but actual provable lies. This standard is absurd in this context. I'll give you the ones that I know he made in my movement career that effected

[FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-01 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_re...@... wrote: now we have the latest tempest in a pisspot (with thanks to Barry for that phrase...), regarding the TBs insisting that the Maharishi acted in sexually inappropriate ways. Hey, ED, thanks for acknowledging my

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-01 Thread Vaj
Hi Dawn, I guess this is directed at me? On Feb 1, 2009, at 12:56 PM, enlightened_dawn11 wrote: once again, the real TBs on FFL are being exposed. first it was all the bullshit flavored hoopla about the practice of TM, until it was discoved that those making all of the negative noise were

[FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-01 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard M compost...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 but actual provable lies. This standard is absurd in this context. I'll

[FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-01 Thread Richard M
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Feb 1, 2009, at 11:42 AM, Richard M wrote: The obvious question for me, Vaj, is why you should be so enthusiastic about such a piece of tabloid journalism, when, relative to some belief you hold dear, you would I am

[FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-01 Thread Richard M
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard M compost1uk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,

[FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-01 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_re...@... wrote: i stand corrected wrt your views on this one, though you as curtis make the blithe statement that the Mahairshi lied about so many things. same challenge to you-- come up with five of them that can be proved.

[FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard M compost1uk@ wrote: snip If I say to you tomorrow I think it might snow some, and then it doesn't. What do you think - that I LIED to you? A child might

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-01 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Feb 1, 2009, at 12:13 PM, Vaj wrote: The only chance I can see any of this having any traction is if they were to get on Dr. Phil or Oprah with a theme of Spiritual Incest, etc. Throw in some priests who also had spiritually incestuous relationships with their followers. Of course since

[FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: snip I see, Linda's just the first to go on the record for sexual exploitation then, that I'm aware of. Linda is the *only* one to have gone on the record (in a trashy British tabloid, under the influence of a teacher who

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-01 Thread Vaj
On Feb 1, 2009, at 1:34 PM, Richard M wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Feb 1, 2009, at 11:42 AM, Richard M wrote: The obvious question for me, Vaj, is why you should be so enthusiastic about such a piece of tabloid journalism, when, relative to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-01 Thread Vaj
On Feb 1, 2009, at 2:05 PM, Sal Sunshine wrote: On Feb 1, 2009, at 12:13 PM, Vaj wrote: The only chance I can see any of this having any traction is if they were to get on Dr. Phil or Oprah with a theme of Spiritual Incest, etc. Throw in some priests who also had spiritually

[FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-01 Thread Duveyoung
I was in the lecture hall when Maharishi was asked about the promise of 5 - 8 years to get to CC. He said, No, no, no, not for you. Only two years for initiators. I kept track of my meditation time while at TTC, and I ended up with five years' worth of 20 mins twice a day as my total, so I was

[FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-01 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: All good points. The broader issue is one of credibility. That evaluation is made in a more full context than the simple telling of a lie within its strictest definition. We build an impression of a person's integrity and what

[FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: All good points. The broader issue is one of credibility. That evaluation is made in a more full context than the simple telling of a lie

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-01 Thread Vaj
On Feb 1, 2009, at 2:22 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: I gave my examples and you pointed out that I can't prove some of them are lies because we can't prove Maharishi's intent. That doesn't prove that many of my examples are not lies, just that I can't prove it here to your satisfaction because

[FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-01 Thread wayback71
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 but actual provable lies. This standard is absurd in this context. I'll give you the ones that I know he made in my movement career that effected

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-01 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Feb 1, 2009, at 2:16 PM, Vaj wrote: However, wouldn't it be fair to to say, after a certain point, if someone's statements and promises consistently turn out to be false (esp. in their favor), that they are lying. Up to a certain point, one could argue about circumstances and it might

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-01 Thread Vaj
On Feb 1, 2009, at 3:31 PM, Sal Sunshine wrote: On Feb 1, 2009, at 2:16 PM, Vaj wrote: However, wouldn't it be fair to to say, after a certain point, if someone's statements and promises consistently turn out to be false (esp. in their favor), that they are lying. Up to a certain point,

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-01 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of lurkernomore20002000 Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 11:31 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ??? Kinda like the Bible saying every word in this book

[FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-01 Thread enlightened_dawn11
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 waybac...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 but actual provable lies. This standard is absurd in this context. I'll

[FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-01 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: HH the 14th Dalai Lama has said publicly that when a guru is found Who, what 14'th ? What is this about HH, are they are wearing very strange hats, no ? This Buddhist politician fellow who left his homeland open to the

[FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-01 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of lurkernomore20002000 Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 11:31 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: new books

[FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-01 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_re...@... wrote: i am still of the belief that no one ever got rich in the TM movement, that the TMO was, and is, chronically overextended, underfunded, and managed by the most devout vs. the most competent, to say the least.

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-01 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of authfriend Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 1:06 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ??? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife

[FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-01 Thread enlightened_dawn11
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_reply@ wrote: i am still of the belief that no one ever got rich in the TM movement, that the TMO was, and is, chronically overextended, underfunded,

[FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-01 Thread mainstream20016
Oh, if it were only true - but it's not, Nabby. Grow up. MMY did his very best, to the very end, for the TMO to be as widely accepted, as soon as possible. MMY was most comfortable with a tight grip, and his insecurity over the idea of loss of complete control precluded the best

[FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-01 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote: I was in the lecture hall when Maharishi was asked about the promise of 5 - 8 years to get to CC. He said, No, no, no, not for you. Only two years for initiators. I kept track of my meditation time while at TTC, and I

[FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-01 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_reply@ wrote: i am curious why some of those here, like Vaj, and Curtis and geezerfreak and Barry feel it is so important to cling deperately to

[FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-01 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016 mainstream20...@... wrote: Oh, if it were only true - but it's not, Nabby. Grow up. MMY did his very best, to the very end, for the TMO to be as widely accepted, as soon as possible. MMY was most comfortable with a tight grip,

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-01 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of enlightened_dawn11 Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 3:30 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ??? thanks for the best post so far on all of this, in my

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-01 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 4:01 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ??? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ???

2009-02-01 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of enlightened_dawn11 Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 9:54 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: new books on Maharishi ??? i was talking with a friend about this just today

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