Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia rescue groups...

2017-06-08 Thread Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium
There is a shelter in Harrisburg PA called Best Little Cat house in PA.  they 
take FELV and FIV cats.

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of kat
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 7:18 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
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Pam,

I do not know any shelters in your area, but I want to tell you that you are an 
angel for these kitties!!
Thank you for all you do.

Kat (Mew Jersey)

Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2017 at 6:26 PM
From: "Pam Doore" mailto:thyme2s...@gmail.com>>
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Subject: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia rescue groups...
Hi all,  I am with a shelter in Western NY.  I have adopted several FE LV+ 
cats.  I was asked if I could take on one more for the shelter and did.  Last 
night I was asked if I would be willing to take two more from a neighboring 
shelter.  I was unable to do that and they were euthanized today. That shelter 
is not interested in rescue groups or putting any money or other resources into 
cats that are Fe Lv+.   I am looking to find Fe Lv rescues that are in the 
NY/PA/OH areas that I could contact to see if in the future I could take cats 
in need to so that they are not euthanized.

Thank you for any suggestions and assistance!!
-Pam



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Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia rescue groups...

2017-06-08 Thread kat

Pam,

 

I do not know any shelters in your area, but I want to tell you that you are an angel for these kitties!!

Thank you for all you do.

 

Kat (Mew Jersey)

 

Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2017 at 6:26 PM
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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia rescue groups...




Hi all,  I am with a shelter in Western NY.  I have adopted several FE LV+ cats.  I was asked if I could take on one more for the shelter and did.  Last night I was asked if I would be willing to take two more from a neighboring shelter.  I was unable to do that and they were euthanized today. That shelter is not interested in rescue groups or putting any money or other resources into cats that are Fe Lv+.   I am looking to find Fe Lv rescues that are in the NY/PA/OH areas that I could contact to see if in the future I could take cats in need to so that they are not euthanized. 
 
Thank you for any suggestions and assistance!!
-Pam

 

















 

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[Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia rescue groups...

2017-06-07 Thread Pam Doore
Hi all,  I am with a shelter in Western NY.  I have adopted several FE LV+
cats.  I was asked if I could take on one more for the shelter and did.
Last night I was asked if I would be willing to take two more from a
neighboring shelter.  I was unable to do that and they were euthanized
today. That shelter is not interested in rescue groups or putting any money
or other resources into cats that are Fe Lv+.   I am looking to find Fe Lv
rescues that are in the NY/PA/OH areas that I could contact to see if in
the future I could take cats in need to so that they are not euthanized.

Thank you for any suggestions and assistance!!
-Pam


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Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia How Contagious?

2015-07-11 Thread Margo


Hi Roxanne,
    Were they all together before? How old are they?
 
-Original Message- From: Roxanne Smith Sent: Jul 10, 2015 10:46 PM To: "felineres...@frontier.com" , "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" , "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia How Contagious? 


I hope this is the way I am to send I have three that are feline leuk pos and the rest are not, they have been vaccinated about four months ago, and I want t re integrate with the other members, everyone is stressed being separated.  I had one die in Feb of 2015--did not know he had it. But I am a little afraid to put everyone together  




From: Lorrie To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2015 12:21 PMSubject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia How Contagious?
I have wondered exactly the same thing. I've had two FelV+ cats withmy other 8 neg. cats for over 5 years. They neg. cats were vaccinatedonly once, and none have ever gotten sick.  Of the 2 FelV + cats,one lived to the age of 7 and suddenly died with no prior illness.The other 7 year old cat (her sister) is still fine.  One of my vetstold me it was very difficult for a grown cat to get FelV, but akitten born with it from a positive mother almost always dies. I had a litter of 4 pos. kittens and all of them died during thefirst year of their lives. It was terribly heart breaking. Lorrie On 07-01, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:> I am beginning to wonder if FELV is as contagious and the vets> claim.  My cats are all ferals, dump cats and I have had 2 who were> declared FELV positive.  One did pass in 2 years of something else. > Annie has been with me over 4 years now and at first, I vacinnated> all the others .  2 years ago, I stopped that and everyone is> healthy, bright eyed and happy.  I am convinced that Annie really> is not positive, just a tremendeous amount of stress that happened> just before I got her.  She has never shown any signs or symptoms> of any disease.  The rest of the cats are healthy.___Felvtalk mailing listFelvtalk@felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

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Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia How Contagious?

2015-07-10 Thread Roxanne Smith
I hope this is the way I am to send I have three that are feline leuk pos and 
the rest are not, they have been vaccinated about four months ago, and I want t 
re integrate with the other members, everyone is stressed being separated.  I 
had one die in Feb of 2015--did not know he had it. But I am a little afraid to 
put everyone together
   From: Lorrie 
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
 Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2015 12:21 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia How Contagious?
   
I have wondered exactly the same thing. I've had two FelV+ cats with
my other 8 neg. cats for over 5 years. They neg. cats were vaccinated
only once, and none have ever gotten sick.  Of the 2 FelV + cats,
one lived to the age of 7 and suddenly died with no prior illness.
The other 7 year old cat (her sister) is still fine.  One of my vets
told me it was very difficult for a grown cat to get FelV, but a
kitten born with it from a positive mother almost always dies. 

I had a litter of 4 pos. kittens and all of them died during the
first year of their lives. It was terribly heart breaking. 

Lorrie 



On 07-01, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:


> I am beginning to wonder if FELV is as contagious and the vets
> claim.  My cats are all ferals, dump cats and I have had 2 who were
> declared FELV positive.  One did pass in 2 years of something else. 
> Annie has been with me over 4 years now and at first, I vacinnated
> all the others .  2 years ago, I stopped that and everyone is
> healthy, bright eyed and happy.  I am convinced that Annie really
> is not positive, just a tremendeous amount of stress that happened
> just before I got her.  She has never shown any signs or symptoms
> of any disease.  The rest of the cats are healthy.



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Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia How Contagious?

2015-07-02 Thread dlgegg
I do think kittens are a different story.  Their immune system is not fully 
developed yet.
For that reason I think I would keep them separate until at least 6 or 8 
months.  If for other reason than they would drive older cats crazy with all 
their energy.  I know when I first got Harley and Dee at 3 months, Annie and 
Homey avoided them as much as possible.  Harley is the only one who goes 
outside every day (unless it is snowing or raining like it has been here for 
the last 3 - 4 weeks)  I am up on a bluff so I don't have to worry about 
flooding, but I don't want to let them get wet and maybe get a cold.  Harley 
patrols his territory around the house and does go across our dirt road about 
100 yards and comes back to lie on the deck and take a nape.  Got to have 
vitamin D.  Dee goes on the deck or if I am outside, she will trail along with 
me, and then back to the deck for a nap.  Annie will go on the deck and snooze. 
 Homey is the one that surprises me.  She was feral and up until 1 year ago, 
would go out every day.  Now she won't go past the door.  She acts like she
  wants out, runs to the door and then puts on the brakes.  The only reason I 
can think of is Clyde, our neighborhood mountain lion showed up about a year 
ago and she can smell him and her feral background says stay inside where it is 
safe.  But then, he has never come closer than a distance from my house to 2 
electric poles away.  He is on a deer crossing.  First saw him when I went out 
for the mail and I thought he was a golden retriever so said hi to him.  Then 
his tail was down, not up and when he turned he gave me a one sided snarl 
telling me I was a stupid old lady, sat down for a minute and then mosied on 
across the road.  We have run into each other on walks in the woods since then 
but he usually just looks at me and goes on his way.  Plus, he does not scare 
Harley.  Also, I am in the middle of the woods and there are lots of critters 
out there for him to dine on.  So for all the above, I don't get any shots 
anymore.  The trauma of crating them and listening to their 
 NoS all the way (20 miles) and sulking on the way home is a bit much 
for them and me. This has been 4 years now and everyone is healthy and happy.
I could see if you were in a city where they could contact many other cats and 
dogs that shots may be necessary unless they stayed in all the time.  Even 
then, vets say get shots every year.  I think in many cases it is an easy money 
maker.  They are getting like human doctors.  By the way, flea and tick control 
is as easy as a few catnip plants.  Have to watch them as they do spread, but 
for 4 years now, I noticed that my cats never have fleas or ticks.  Then one 
day found out anything in the mint family is a repellent for bugs. So that is 
one more expense and exposure to toxins that I can avoid.


 Lorrie  wrote: 
> I have wondered exactly the same thing. I've had two FelV+ cats with
> my other 8 neg. cats for over 5 years. They neg. cats were vaccinated
> only once, and none have ever gotten sick.  Of the 2 FelV + cats,
> one lived to the age of 7 and suddenly died with no prior illness.
> The other 7 year old cat (her sister) is still fine.  One of my vets
> told me it was very difficult for a grown cat to get FelV, but a
> kitten born with it from a positive mother almost always dies. 
> 
> I had a litter of 4 pos. kittens and all of them died during the
> first year of their lives. It was terribly heart breaking. 
> 
> Lorrie 
> 
> 
> 
> On 07-01, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:
> 
> 
> > I am beginning to wonder if FELV is as contagious and the vets
> > claim.  My cats are all ferals, dump cats and I have had 2 who were
> > declared FELV positive.  One did pass in 2 years of something else. 
> > Annie has been with me over 4 years now and at first, I vacinnated
> > all the others .  2 years ago, I stopped that and everyone is
> > healthy, bright eyed and happy.  I am convinced that Annie really
> > is not positive, just a tremendeous amount of stress that happened
> > just before I got her.  She has never shown any signs or symptoms
> > of any disease.  The rest of the cats are healthy.
> 
> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia How Contagious?

2015-07-02 Thread Lorrie
I have wondered exactly the same thing. I've had two FelV+ cats with
my other 8 neg. cats for over 5 years. They neg. cats were vaccinated
only once, and none have ever gotten sick.  Of the 2 FelV + cats,
one lived to the age of 7 and suddenly died with no prior illness.
The other 7 year old cat (her sister) is still fine.  One of my vets
told me it was very difficult for a grown cat to get FelV, but a
kitten born with it from a positive mother almost always dies. 

I had a litter of 4 pos. kittens and all of them died during the
first year of their lives. It was terribly heart breaking. 

Lorrie 



On 07-01, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:


> I am beginning to wonder if FELV is as contagious and the vets
> claim.  My cats are all ferals, dump cats and I have had 2 who were
> declared FELV positive.  One did pass in 2 years of something else. 
> Annie has been with me over 4 years now and at first, I vacinnated
> all the others .  2 years ago, I stopped that and everyone is
> healthy, bright eyed and happy.  I am convinced that Annie really
> is not positive, just a tremendeous amount of stress that happened
> just before I got her.  She has never shown any signs or symptoms
> of any disease.  The rest of the cats are healthy.



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[Felvtalk] feline leukemia and aids

2014-09-21 Thread Lori Walters
Dear Sirs,
I am begging for help for my feline leukemia and aids diagnosed 4yr old female 
cat. I need to buy lymphocyte t cell monomodulator vials. She is only 
experiencing an upper respiratory infection at this point. She eats, and does 
not seem to be in the latent stage. My girlfriend is a vet assistant. She can 
subcutaneously inject her. After the first 3 injections, I will have her blood 
monitored. Is there any possibility of purchasing this medication? I can not 
afford to have the primary vet purchase and administer the medication. I am 
disabled, not employed, and receive $1400.00 a month. Please help me.. I need 
to have the medication administered as soon as possible. I don't want her to 
die or suffer.


Sincerely,
Lori Wiesenthal
16 Lincoln Pl.
Moonachie, NJ 07074
201-952-2410
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Re: [Felvtalk] feline leukemia tests

2013-06-12 Thread Lance
I've been wrestling with these thoughts a lot lately. I wrote to Marley Fund to 
see if they'd ever advocated for trials, but it sounds like it's outside of 
their mission. Maybe no one advocates for trials, but I was under the 
impression that something like that was done for HIV/AIDS. 

I wrote Virbac earlier today to find out where Virbagen Omega approval for the 
US market is. I'll bet I can tell you before I even hear back from them.

On Jun 12, 2013, at 2:53 PM, "Amanda K. Payne"  wrote:

> Lance,
> 
> I could totally get behind your Christmas Wish List.  I rescued my first 
> FeLV+ kitten ten years ago. In that decade, there seems to be little to no 
> progress made in FeLV prevention and/or treatment.  Instead, the information 
> I come across is more confusing than it was when I first heard of FeLV. I 
> understand that a lack of funding and red tape slow down scientific progress, 
> but come on!  There's a huge difference between slow down and standstill. 
> 
> It may be too late for my Polli, but I look forward to the day that FeLV is 
> treatable instead of something that only supportive care is available for.
> 
> -Amanda
> 


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Re: [Felvtalk] feline leukemia tests

2013-06-12 Thread Margo



Hi Lance,
 
 I can't help with most of this, (wish I could) but I'm pretty comfortable with the rFeLV vaccine by Merial. I made my Vet miserable by insisting I had to have it for one cat, because I could not risk FISS/VAS with him, he's down to three legs already. Long story, but he will be best off in my special needs bunch, and that includes my FeLV boys. He is fed seperately, and has his own room at night . It was the best I could do to give him the best life I can.
 
https://www.navta.net/press/new-molecular-technology-provides-improved-potency
 
-Original Message- From: Lance Sent: Jun 12, 2013 3:44 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] feline leukemia tests 
Yeah, it does show that persistent infection isn't necessarily inevitable when a cat is exposed and infected. It's sad that we don't know more about how often regressive vs. persistent happens. There are a lot of things I think we need with regard to information. For Christmas, I'd like some tangibles:

* an immediate treatment that can hit the virus right after exposure.

Even if it's only useful for 48 hours, that would allow people with bitten cats to treat immediately, rather than to wait on the disease process. Perhaps this is unrealistic or even science fiction. I think some folks have used AZT in these cases, but that seems potentially dangerous. 

* a long-term treatment that allows for FeLV+ cats (and FIV+ cats) to live with their illness in a similar way to how more people are able to live with HIV infections. 

This is going to require lots of funding, but we need feline-friendly antiretrovirals that are less toxic. Imagine someone getting an FeLV+ diagnosis for his or her cat in the (hopefully) not-too-distant future, and while they are saddened, they know that their cat can live a full life with the right drugs–the virus will be relatively under control.

* a vaccine that doesn't cause vax site sarcomas. 

How hard can this possibly be? Why do we not understand how this happens better after a decade of dealing with it? Why is their less vax site sarcoma prevalence in the UK and Europe vs. America, when both sides use pretty much the same vax?

In my family's case, I think I would have advocated for our girl now of questionable status to be vaccinated if I didn't have to feel like I was putting her at risk for an aggressive cancer. But, my FeLV+ was isolated, and the few accidental meet-ups that they'd had were always quick and easily curtailed, so putting Callie at risk of the sarcoma didn't seem right. I'm regretting that now.


On Jun 12, 2013, at 2:20 PM, Margo <toomanykitti...@earthlink.net> wrote:


Hi Lance,
 
 Thanks! I don't know if I have that or not, but it sounds interesting . And it does give me some hope.
 
All the best,
 
Margo
 

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Re: [Felvtalk] feline leukemia tests

2013-06-12 Thread Amanda K. Payne
Lance,

I could totally get behind your Christmas Wish List.  I rescued my first
FeLV+ kitten ten years ago. In that decade, there seems to be little to no
progress made in FeLV prevention and/or treatment.  Instead, the
information I come across is more confusing than it was when I first heard
of FeLV. I understand that a lack of funding and red tape slow down
scientific progress, but come on!  There's a huge difference between slow
down and standstill.

It may be too late for my Polli, but I look forward to the day that FeLV is
treatable instead of something that only supportive care is available for.

-Amanda


On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 12:44 PM, Lance  wrote:

> Yeah, it does show that persistent infection isn't necessarily inevitable
> when a cat is exposed and infected. It's sad that we don't know more about
> how often regressive vs. persistent happens. There are a lot of things I
> think we need with regard to information. For Christmas, I'd like some
> tangibles:
>
> * an immediate treatment that can hit the virus right after exposure.
>
> Even if it's only useful for 48 hours, that would allow people with bitten
> cats to treat immediately, rather than to wait on the disease process.
> Perhaps this is unrealistic or even science fiction. I think some folks
> have used AZT in these cases, but that seems potentially dangerous.
>
> * a long-term treatment that allows for FeLV+ cats (and FIV+ cats) to live
> with their illness in a similar way to how more people are able to live
> with HIV infections.
>
> This is going to require lots of funding, but we need feline-friendly
> antiretrovirals that are less toxic. Imagine someone getting an FeLV+
> diagnosis for his or her cat in the (hopefully) not-too-distant future, and
> while they are saddened, they know that their cat can live a full life with
> the right drugs–the virus will be relatively under control.
>
> * a vaccine that doesn't cause vax site sarcomas.
>
> How hard can this possibly be? Why do we not understand how this happens
> better after a decade of dealing with it? Why is their less vax site
> sarcoma prevalence in the UK and Europe vs. America, when both sides use
> pretty much the same vax?
>
> In my family's case, I think I would have advocated for our girl now of
> questionable status to be vaccinated if I didn't have to feel like I was
> putting her at risk for an aggressive cancer. But, my FeLV+ was isolated,
> and the few accidental meet-ups that they'd had were always quick and
> easily curtailed, so putting Callie at risk of the sarcoma didn't seem
> right. I'm regretting that now.
>
>
> On Jun 12, 2013, at 2:20 PM, Margo  wrote:
>
>
> Hi Lance,
>
>
>  Thanks! I don't know if I have that or not, but it sounds
> interesting . And it does give me some hope.
>
>
> All the best,
>
>
> Margo
>
>
>
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Re: [Felvtalk] feline leukemia tests

2013-06-12 Thread Lance
Yeah, it does show that persistent infection isn't necessarily inevitable when 
a cat is exposed and infected. It's sad that we don't know more about how often 
regressive vs. persistent happens. There are a lot of things I think we need 
with regard to information. For Christmas, I'd like some tangibles:

* an immediate treatment that can hit the virus right after exposure.

Even if it's only useful for 48 hours, that would allow people with bitten cats 
to treat immediately, rather than to wait on the disease process. Perhaps this 
is unrealistic or even science fiction. I think some folks have used AZT in 
these cases, but that seems potentially dangerous. 

* a long-term treatment that allows for FeLV+ cats (and FIV+ cats) to live with 
their illness in a similar way to how more people are able to live with HIV 
infections. 

This is going to require lots of funding, but we need feline-friendly 
antiretrovirals that are less toxic. Imagine someone getting an FeLV+ diagnosis 
for his or her cat in the (hopefully) not-too-distant future, and while they 
are saddened, they know that their cat can live a full life with the right 
drugs–the virus will be relatively under control.

* a vaccine that doesn't cause vax site sarcomas. 

How hard can this possibly be? Why do we not understand how this happens better 
after a decade of dealing with it? Why is their less vax site sarcoma 
prevalence in the UK and Europe vs. America, when both sides use pretty much 
the same vax?

In my family's case, I think I would have advocated for our girl now of 
questionable status to be vaccinated if I didn't have to feel like I was 
putting her at risk for an aggressive cancer. But, my FeLV+ was isolated, and 
the few accidental meet-ups that they'd had were always quick and easily 
curtailed, so putting Callie at risk of the sarcoma didn't seem right. I'm 
regretting that now.


On Jun 12, 2013, at 2:20 PM, Margo  wrote:

> 
> Hi Lance,
>  
>  Thanks! I don't know if I have that or not, but it sounds 
> interesting . And it does give me some hope.
>  
> All the best,
>  
> Margo
>  
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Re: [Felvtalk] feline leukemia tests

2013-06-12 Thread Beth
Karen -

What your vet suggested is what I would suggest & what we do at the shelter.
You would do an IFA only if they test positive on the in-house SNAP test. The 
IFA would tell you if the virus cannot be thrown off.

Beth


 
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 From: Karen Harshbarger 
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org"  
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 1:33 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] feline leukemia tests
 


I had my 5 cats tested for feline leukemia when believed to be exposed.  First 
test 4 tested positive and yesterday (90 days later) all 5 tested negative.  my 
vet said retest in 45 days and see what we get.  If two test with same 
diagnosis then that is the results.  Has anyone ever had this and/or what do 
you have to say about what is going on with my guys?  He used the quick in 
house test---for get the name---not the send out lab test that takes longer for 
results.  Thanks Karen
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Re: [Felvtalk] feline leukemia tests

2013-06-12 Thread Margo



Hi Lance,
 
 Thanks! I don't know if I have that or not, but it sounds interesting . And it does give me some hope.
 
All the best,
 
Margo
 
-Original Message- From: Lance Sent: Jun 12, 2013 1:55 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] feline leukemia tests 
I'm not sure about this, but I *think* this might be what's called regressive infection. It's not as bad as it sounds. This is a "new" way of looking at cats we used to think threw off the virus. The paper "2008 AAFP Retrovirus Guidelines" puts it this way:

Regressive infection is accompanied by an effective immune response, and virus replication is contained prior to or at the time of bone marrow infection. Cats with regressive infection are at little risk of developing FeLV-associated diseases. FeLV is integrated into the cat’s genome, but viral shedding does not occur (Peder- sen et al 1977, Lutz et al 1983, Flynn et al 2000, 2002). 

It seems possible that the cats we always used to say "threw off" the virus were actually "infected", but that they don't shed virus and have a very low risk for getting sick.

That paper is available online. Just Google for the title. All in all, while it might not be the best news, regressive infection would seem to indicate a normal life is ahead for your cats, and you shouldn't have to be concerned about them.

Would you mind describing the exposure you think your cats might have undergone? Was it a short interaction with a FeLV+ or a long period of time spent with a positive cat or cats? Also, how is Cole doing? I know he didn't eat well one day recently, and you were concerned.

Best wishes to you and the five negative kitties,

Lance


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I had my 5 cats tested for feline leukemia when believed to be exposed.  First test 4 tested positive and yesterday (90 days later) all 5 tested negative.  my vet said retest in 45 days and see what we get.  If two test with same diagnosis then that is the results.  Has anyone ever had this and/or what do you have to say about what is going on with my guys?  He used the quick in house test---for get the name---not the send out lab test that takes longer for results.  Thanks Karen___Felvtalk mailing listFelvtalk@felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

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Re: [Felvtalk] feline leukemia tests

2013-06-12 Thread Margo



Hi Karen,
 
   How long ago was the suspected exposure, and how did it happen? In house testing is usually an Elisa.
 
   There's a chart on the FeLV.org site, but it is titled "Sick Cat Chart". My thought is that some of yours are not showing any symptoms?
 
   http://www.felineleukemia.org/felvsick.html  
 
   The chart suggests immediate re-testing, but I think I'd wait the 45 days, and test by IFA. If you are planning on seperating them by result, then I'd do an IFA now, and see what that shows.
 
   But I still don't know exactly what that means :(  I keep reading different things from different sources. To the point that I won't be testing my "exposed" cats unless they show symptoms. So far, we're one for one. In addition to my original positive Gribble, now Mako has tested positive as well. His only symptoms were ocular, a recurrent runny eye, and transient anisocoria. Right now, after treatment, he's symptom free. As is Gribble. (Knocking madly on wood).
 
Not much help, huh?
 
Margo
 
 
 
 
 
-Original Message- From: Karen Harshbarger Sent: Jun 12, 2013 1:33 PM To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Subject: [Felvtalk] feline leukemia tests 

I had my 5 cats tested for feline leukemia when believed to be exposed.  First test 4 tested positive and yesterday (90 days later) all 5 tested negative.  my vet said retest in 45 days and see what we get.  If two test with same diagnosis then that is the results.  Has anyone ever had this and/or what do you have to say about what is going on with my guys?  He used the quick in house test---for get the name---not the send out lab test that takes longer for results.  Thanks Karen

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Re: [Felvtalk] feline leukemia tests

2013-06-12 Thread Lance
I'm not sure about this, but I *think* this might be what's called regressive 
infection. It's not as bad as it sounds. This is a "new" way of looking at cats 
we used to think threw off the virus. The paper "2008 AAFP Retrovirus 
Guidelines" puts it this way:

Regressive infection is accompanied by an effective immune response, and virus 
replication is contained prior to or at the time of bone marrow infection. Cats 
with regressive infection are at little risk of developing FeLV-associated 
diseases. FeLV is integrated into the cat’s genome, but viral shedding does not 
occur (Peder- sen et al 1977, Lutz et al 1983, Flynn et al 2000, 2002). 

It seems possible that the cats we always used to say "threw off" the virus 
were actually "infected", but that they don't shed virus and have a very low 
risk for getting sick.

That paper is available online. Just Google for the title. All in all, while it 
might not be the best news, regressive infection would seem to indicate a 
normal life is ahead for your cats, and you shouldn't have to be concerned 
about them.

Would you mind describing the exposure you think your cats might have 
undergone? Was it a short interaction with a FeLV+ or a long period of time 
spent with a positive cat or cats? Also, how is Cole doing? I know he didn't 
eat well one day recently, and you were concerned.

Best wishes to you and the five negative kitties,

Lance

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wrote:

> I had my 5 cats tested for feline leukemia when believed to be exposed.  
> First test 4 tested positive and yesterday (90 days later) all 5 tested 
> negative.  my vet said retest in 45 days and see what we get.  If two test 
> with same diagnosis then that is the results.  Has anyone ever had this 
> and/or what do you have to say about what is going on with my guys?  He used 
> the quick in house test---for get the name---not the send out lab test that 
> takes longer for results.  Thanks Karen
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[Felvtalk] feline leukemia tests

2013-06-12 Thread Karen Harshbarger
I had my 5 cats tested for feline leukemia when believed to be exposed.  First 
test 4 tested positive and yesterday (90 days later) all 5 tested negative.  my 
vet said retest in 45 days and see what we get.  If two test with same 
diagnosis then that is the results.  Has anyone ever had this and/or what do 
you have to say about what is going on with my guys?  He used the quick in 
house test---for get the name---not the send out lab test that takes longer for 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia

2012-12-04 Thread dlgegg
Would it help to talk via e mail with sokme of our vets?  

 Marcia Baronda  wrote: 
> I remember being very frightened when I found out that Fletch was positive 
> for Felv. But then I found this list and the people on here gave me much 
> needed hope. They explained, just like Lee did that this IS NOT a death 
> sentence. So keep your chin up. Tanya's CRF web site has a list of many 
> different B complex vitamins that are available online and how much of each b 
> vitamin is in each product. It would be a great place to look. 
> Keep your chin up, we are all here for you.
> Marcia
> 
> Sent from my iPad that my most awesome kids surprised me with, Christmas 
> 2010. 
> 
> On Nov 20, 2012, at 6:28 AM, Lee Evans  wrote:
> 
> > Sounds like the vets in  your country are not very knowledgeable about 
> > FeLv.  Your kitten is still young and might just be fighting the antibodies 
> > he got from a FeLv+ mother.  You need to retest him in about 2 to 3 months 
> > and he may be negative, having overcome the antibodies.  You need to know 
> > whether he is running a fever and how high it is.  You probably need to 
> > visit another vet for the retest because it seems like the animal doctors 
> > in your country haven't much interest in diagnostics past just testing for 
> > FeLv and FIV.  Sometimes the test can be positive for FeLv because the cat 
> > is fighting off another type of infection entirely.  It's not a death 
> > sentence.  It's a tool to see what can be done for the cat.  Just like 
> > testing a human for diabetes is a tool to see what medications would be 
> > needed if the person has diabetes.
> > 
> > Meantime give your cat good food.  I would recommend a vitamin like 
> > Nutra-Ved which can be purchased online without any prescription or maybe 
> > your vet has it in stock.  It's a liquid that you can either add to the 
> > food or give in a measured dose by mouth with a feeding syringe.  I 
> > currently have a cat named Desi who is leukemia positive.  However, 
> > although he lost a lot of weight, he grooms himself, he has shiny fur and 
> > he is alert, clear eyed and interested in things around him.  He was a 
> > colony cat who we fed for several years.  He just recently began losing a 
> > lot of weight and we had him tested, were surprised that he was FeLv+ 
> > because he was living outside all this time, never showing any symptoms of 
> > poor health.
> > 
> > Each cat is an individual.  One size medicine or vet care does NOT fit all. 
> >  So keep a good attitude and don't look at your cat as if he were ill with 
> > something fatal.  Look at him as if this is just another crisis in his life 
> > which he can overcome.
> > 
> > Keep us posted.  Hugs to you and your fur kid.
> >  
> > Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty 
> > neighbors too!
> > 
> > 
> > From: Marcia Baronda 
> > To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org"  
> > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 6:05 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia
> > 
> > Hi Laurine,
> > 
> > First let me say that I'm so sorry, because this is so scary and probably 
> > worse for you since it doesn't sound like you are getting any HOPE, which 
> > is so important. Does your kitty have a temperature? If you can get meds 
> > online I would definitely suggest some amoxicillin, if he has a fever. He 
> > may have an infection that he needs help with. You can order fish 
> > antibiotics over the Internet made by Thomas Labs. I hate to give this kind 
> > of advice, but it may make him better where he feels good enough to eat 
> > better. I would also give him some b complex vitamins
> > Because cats need them. Sometimes they will perk up and eat and drink 
> > better after having them. Twin Labs makes liquid b complex that you could 
> > give by syringe. Other people on here will be able to help better than I, 
> > because I'm kind of a newbie with the Felv. My heart goes out to you and 
> > your kitty.
> > 
> > Take care
> > Marcia
> > Sent from my iPad that my most awesome kids surprised me with, Christmas 
> > 2010. 
> > 
> > On Nov 19, 2012, at 3:00 PM, "Lauraine Venter"  
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > Funny enough around here they don't wanna put them to sleep (no space to 
> > > put them afterwards) so they just say sorry have some vitamins and good 
> > > bye when you leave their offices.  I will rather put myself to sleep than 
> > > do it to my kitty (sorry but I will)  I got him

Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia

2012-11-22 Thread Tracey Shrout
Hi Lauraine, here's my advice to you...Keep your kitty as stress free as
possible. Give him the best food you can afford, nothing is more important
(except for love) than good nutrition. In my opinion, the best thing to
feed him is a raw diet.  If the ingredients are available to you, you can
make your own food. Look at catnutrition.org and catinfo.org...this is the
diet cats are supposed to have. I've been feeding this to my felv+ Abbey
for 4 years now, and she is in amazing health. She was on the verge of
death when I got her and this diet is what I whole-heartedly attribute to
her excellent health. It may be daunting to make the food in the beginning,
but I assure you it will be well worth your trouble. If you simply cannot
source the ingredients, then give him the best grain-free food you can
find...that means no kibble at all. Btw, I also give her 250mg of
l-lysine/day and also give her a 1/2 capsule of Transfer factor tri-factor
plus/day (for humans) added to her raw food. I saw extraordinary changes in
all my 5 cats after switching to this raw diet. A good diet cures many,
many ailments and keeps the immune system strong. A strong immune system
will naturally keep disease at bay. I make this food for my cats as well as
for many friends (I have a small cat food business), and I have seen and
heard of drastic improvements in these cats' health.

If your kitty is not eating, I suggest you assist feed him with some plain
meat baby food (no onions/garlic) watered down, with a syringe. I wish you
lots of luck.

Tracey

On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 3:06 PM,  wrote:

> Can you go online to find medications?  Is it possible to get things thru
> customs?  I recently lost my Nitnoy at age 5.  When I found her, she was
> diagnosed as FELV +.  I also have 1 more who is near 8 years now, got her
> when she was 4.  I have her on a Lysine paste whick pumps out measured
> doses.  Name is Enisyl-F by Vetoquinol, a French company.  I got this from
> my vet.  Can you let those of us who are not familiar with grams what that
> comes to in ounces?  Get her the best quality food you can.  Can you get
> fresh raw meat?  Otherwise, get canned or dry that does not contain corn,
> wheat or soy, as most of these ingredients are genetically modified and are
> not good for our animals or us.  I am sure you will hear from more of the
> group.  Hang in there, give her lots of love and we will keep you in our
> prayers.  Good luck.
>  Lauraine Venter  wrote:
> > Hi Everyone
> >
> >
> >
> > I just had the worst day of my life, my one your old stray that I save
> from
> > 5 days old has just been diagnosed with Feline Leukemia and I don't know
> > what to do he has already lost 200g in 4 days the Vet gave some vitamins
> but
> > I know that is not going to make things better.  I live in Mocambique and
> > had to hear today that yes there is a vaccine available for prevent this
> > illness but sadly not available in this country nor is any treatment at
> all
> > just some vitamins to try and boost my kitty cat, I am so sad and upset
> and
> > everything at once, is there anything I can do please even willing to go
> > holistic but obviously bearing in mind where I live.
> >
> >
> >
> > Kind Regards
> >
> > Lauraine Venter
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia

2012-11-20 Thread Marcia Baronda
I remember being very frightened when I found out that Fletch was positive for 
Felv. But then I found this list and the people on here gave me much needed 
hope. They explained, just like Lee did that this IS NOT a death sentence. So 
keep your chin up. Tanya's CRF web site has a list of many different B complex 
vitamins that are available online and how much of each b vitamin is in each 
product. It would be a great place to look. 
Keep your chin up, we are all here for you.
Marcia

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On Nov 20, 2012, at 6:28 AM, Lee Evans  wrote:

> Sounds like the vets in  your country are not very knowledgeable about FeLv.  
> Your kitten is still young and might just be fighting the antibodies he got 
> from a FeLv+ mother.  You need to retest him in about 2 to 3 months and he 
> may be negative, having overcome the antibodies.  You need to know whether he 
> is running a fever and how high it is.  You probably need to visit another 
> vet for the retest because it seems like the animal doctors in your country 
> haven't much interest in diagnostics past just testing for FeLv and FIV.  
> Sometimes the test can be positive for FeLv because the cat is fighting off 
> another type of infection entirely.  It's not a death sentence.  It's a tool 
> to see what can be done for the cat.  Just like testing a human for diabetes 
> is a tool to see what medications would be needed if the person has diabetes.
> 
> Meantime give your cat good food.  I would recommend a vitamin like Nutra-Ved 
> which can be purchased online without any prescription or maybe your vet has 
> it in stock.  It's a liquid that you can either add to the food or give in a 
> measured dose by mouth with a feeding syringe.  I currently have a cat named 
> Desi who is leukemia positive.  However, although he lost a lot of weight, he 
> grooms himself, he has shiny fur and he is alert, clear eyed and interested 
> in things around him.  He was a colony cat who we fed for several years.  He 
> just recently began losing a lot of weight and we had him tested, were 
> surprised that he was FeLv+ because he was living outside all this time, 
> never showing any symptoms of poor health.
> 
> Each cat is an individual.  One size medicine or vet care does NOT fit all.  
> So keep a good attitude and don't look at your cat as if he were ill with 
> something fatal.  Look at him as if this is just another crisis in his life 
> which he can overcome.
> 
> Keep us posted.  Hugs to you and your fur kid.
>  
> Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty 
> neighbors too!
> 
> 
> From: Marcia Baronda 
> To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org"  
> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 6:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia
> 
> Hi Laurine,
> 
> First let me say that I'm so sorry, because this is so scary and probably 
> worse for you since it doesn't sound like you are getting any HOPE, which is 
> so important. Does your kitty have a temperature? If you can get meds online 
> I would definitely suggest some amoxicillin, if he has a fever. He may have 
> an infection that he needs help with. You can order fish antibiotics over the 
> Internet made by Thomas Labs. I hate to give this kind of advice, but it may 
> make him better where he feels good enough to eat better. I would also give 
> him some b complex vitamins
> Because cats need them. Sometimes they will perk up and eat and drink better 
> after having them. Twin Labs makes liquid b complex that you could give by 
> syringe. Other people on here will be able to help better than I, because I'm 
> kind of a newbie with the Felv. My heart goes out to you and your kitty.
> 
> Take care
> Marcia
> Sent from my iPad that my most awesome kids surprised me with, Christmas 
> 2010. 
> 
> On Nov 19, 2012, at 3:00 PM, "Lauraine Venter"  wrote:
> 
> > Funny enough around here they don't wanna put them to sleep (no space to 
> > put them afterwards) so they just say sorry have some vitamins and good bye 
> > when you leave their offices.  I will rather put myself to sleep than do it 
> > to my kitty (sorry but I will)  I got him when he was 5 days old and had to 
> > perform cpr on him at 10 days old as he didn't want to breath anymore so he 
> > is super special for me he is my kid.  I will definitely have a look at 
> > L-Lysine I am prepared to do anything for him as long as he is not in any 
> > pain think that will kill me if I know he is in pain.  He is living a very 
> > stress free life thus far (own playroom, jungle gym, toys, bed and even 
> > aircon as it get 40-45 degrees around here), my

Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia

2012-11-20 Thread Lee Evans
Sounds like the vets in  your country are not very knowledgeable about FeLv.  
Your kitten is still young and might just be fighting the antibodies he got 
from a FeLv+ mother.  You need to retest him in about 2 to 3 months and he may 
be negative, having overcome the antibodies.  You need to know whether he is 
running a fever and how high it is.  You probably need to visit another vet for 
the retest because it seems like the animal doctors in your country haven't 
much interest in diagnostics past just testing for FeLv and FIV.  Sometimes the 
test can be positive for FeLv because the cat is fighting off another type of 
infection entirely.  It's not a death sentence.  It's a tool to see what can be 
done for the cat.  Just like testing a human for diabetes is a tool to see what 
medications would be needed if the person has diabetes.

Meantime give your cat good food.  I would recommend a vitamin like Nutra-Ved 
which can be purchased online without any prescription or maybe your vet has it 
in stock.  It's a liquid that you can either add to the food or give in a 
measured dose by mouth with a feeding syringe.  I currently have a cat named 
Desi who is leukemia positive.  However, although he lost a lot of weight, he 
grooms himself, he has shiny fur and he is alert, clear eyed and interested in 
things around him.  He was a colony cat who we fed for several years.  He just 
recently began losing a lot of weight and we had him tested, were surprised 
that he was FeLv+ because he was living outside all this time, never showing 
any symptoms of poor health.

Each cat is an individual.  One size medicine or vet care does NOT fit all.  So 
keep a good attitude and don't look at your cat as if he were ill with 
something fatal.  Look at him as if this is just another crisis in his life 
which he can overcome.

Keep us posted.  Hugs to you and your fur kid.

 
Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors 
too!





>
> From: Marcia Baronda 
>To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org"  
>Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 6:05 PM
>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia
> 
>Hi Laurine,
>
>First let me say that I'm so sorry, because this is so scary and probably 
>worse for you since it doesn't sound like you are getting any HOPE, which is 
>so important. Does your kitty have a temperature? If you can get meds online I 
>would definitely suggest some amoxicillin, if he has a fever. He may have an 
>infection that he needs help with. You can order fish antibiotics over the 
>Internet made by Thomas Labs. I hate to give this kind of advice, but it may 
>make him better where he feels good enough to eat better. I would also give 
>him some b complex vitamins
>Because cats need them. Sometimes they will perk up and eat and drink better 
>after having them. Twin Labs makes liquid b complex that you could give by 
>syringe. Other people on here will be able to help better than I, because I'm 
>kind of a newbie with the Felv. My heart goes out to you and your kitty.
>
>Take care
>Marcia
>Sent from my iPad that my most awesome kids surprised me with, Christmas 2010. 
>
>On Nov 19, 2012, at 3:00 PM, "Lauraine Venter"  wrote:
>
>> Funny enough around here they don't wanna put them to sleep (no space to put 
>> them afterwards) so they just say sorry have some vitamins and good bye when 
>> you leave their offices.  I will rather put myself to sleep than do it to my 
>> kitty (sorry but I will)  I got him when he was 5 days old and had to 
>> perform cpr on him at 10 days old as he didn't want to breath anymore so he 
>> is super special for me he is my kid.  I will definitely have a look at 
>> L-Lysine I am prepared to do anything for him as long as he is not in any 
>> pain think that will kill me if I know he is in pain.  He is living a very 
>> stress free life thus far (own playroom, jungle gym, toys, bed and even 
>> aircon as it get 40-45 degrees around here), my main concern is that it was 
>> picked up to late being that he is losing weight fast and still not eating 
>> good even if I give him his special treats that he loves and yes his age.
>> 
>> Kind Regards
>> Lauraine Venter
>>
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Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia

2012-11-19 Thread Marcia Baronda
Hi Laurine,

First let me say that I'm so sorry, because this is so scary and probably worse 
for you since it doesn't sound like you are getting any HOPE, which is so 
important. Does your kitty have a temperature? If you can get meds online I 
would definitely suggest some amoxicillin, if he has a fever. He may have an 
infection that he needs help with. You can order fish antibiotics over the 
Internet made by Thomas Labs. I hate to give this kind of advice, but it may 
make him better where he feels good enough to eat better. I would also give him 
some b complex vitamins
Because cats need them. Sometimes they will perk up and eat and drink better 
after having them. Twin Labs makes liquid b complex that you could give by 
syringe. Other people on here will be able to help better than I, because I'm 
kind of a newbie with the Felv. My heart goes out to you and your kitty.

Take care
Marcia
Sent from my iPad that my most awesome kids surprised me with, Christmas 2010. 

On Nov 19, 2012, at 3:00 PM, "Lauraine Venter"  wrote:

> Funny enough around here they don't wanna put them to sleep (no space to put 
> them afterwards) so they just say sorry have some vitamins and good bye when 
> you leave their offices.  I will rather put myself to sleep than do it to my 
> kitty (sorry but I will)  I got him when he was 5 days old and had to perform 
> cpr on him at 10 days old as he didn't want to breath anymore so he is super 
> special for me he is my kid.  I will definitely have a look at L-Lysine I am 
> prepared to do anything for him as long as he is not in any pain think that 
> will kill me if I know he is in pain.  He is living a very stress free life 
> thus far (own playroom, jungle gym, toys, bed and even aircon as it get 40-45 
> degrees around here), my main concern is that it was picked up to late being 
> that he is losing weight fast and still not eating good even if I give him 
> his special treats that he loves and yes his age.
> 
> Kind Regards
> Lauraine Venter
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: dlg...@windstream.net [mailto:dlg...@windstream.net] 
> Sent: 19 November 2012 10:32 PM
> To: Lauraine Venter
> Subject: RE: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia
> 
> You would be amazed at the number of vets in the US that reccommend putting a 
> FELV+ cat to sleep because they feel it won't live and the costs can be high 
> sometimes. My vet (one of the good ones) said it was up to me, there was a 
> chance she could live a long life. It depends on the person living with the 
> cat.  How much do you love him (sorry bout that, could have sworn I saw her 
> in your first mail).  My Annie was 4 and is now 8 and has never been sick in 
> that time.  Nitnoy came with problems, a raccoon bit her tail off so she had 
> stress to begin with.  She still lived a normal, healthy life until 2 weeks 
> before she passed with her head on my shoulder.  There was no great pain for 
> her, she simply sighed and was gone.  
> One of the main things to do is avoid stress, that hurts the imune system.  
> The L-Lysine will boost his immune system and hel fight off the FELV or the 
> secondary infection.  Because your baby is so young, it might be harder to 
> fight it off, but if you are conserned enough to reach out for help, he has 
> love to boost him and in my book that counts a lot.  I will keep both of you 
> in my prayers.
>  Lauraine Venter  wrote: 
>> I can find any medications on line and get it past customs no problem my 
>> worries is what medication to give as our vets here does not have an idea 
>> either they just did the test said oh so sorry no vaccines to prevent this 
>> illness in this country yet here is 15 days of vitamins and so sorry.  So I 
>> am very worried about what to get with regards to medicine.  He lost 200g in 
>> 4 days which is approx 7 ounces in 4 days and for a cat that is not good 
>> even I know that, he is just sleepy the whole time and not eating a lot, I 
>> have changed the food to a better product called Montego not your average 
>> commercial Epol or something available in supermarkets this dry food is very 
>> similar to IAMS just slightly cheaper.  I can get plenty of raw fish and 
>> meat but the problem is this kitty of mine is very full of crap when it 
>> comes to food since first day I got him so not sure if the change will work 
>> or not nor have I ever tried the raw diet before very new to me.  Thanks for 
>> the advise and care appreciate it a lot still angry and upset though but hey 
>> what can you do if you live in a developing country where certain stuff is 
>> not available as yet.
>> 
>> Kind Regards
>> Lauraine Venter
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: dlg...@win

Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia

2012-11-19 Thread Lauraine Venter
Funny enough around here they don't wanna put them to sleep (no space to put 
them afterwards) so they just say sorry have some vitamins and good bye when 
you leave their offices.  I will rather put myself to sleep than do it to my 
kitty (sorry but I will)  I got him when he was 5 days old and had to perform 
cpr on him at 10 days old as he didn't want to breath anymore so he is super 
special for me he is my kid.  I will definitely have a look at L-Lysine I am 
prepared to do anything for him as long as he is not in any pain think that 
will kill me if I know he is in pain.  He is living a very stress free life 
thus far (own playroom, jungle gym, toys, bed and even aircon as it get 40-45 
degrees around here), my main concern is that it was picked up to late being 
that he is losing weight fast and still not eating good even if I give him his 
special treats that he loves and yes his age.

Kind Regards
Lauraine Venter

-Original Message-
From: dlg...@windstream.net [mailto:dlg...@windstream.net] 
Sent: 19 November 2012 10:32 PM
To: Lauraine Venter
Subject: RE: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia

You would be amazed at the number of vets in the US that reccommend putting a 
FELV+ cat to sleep because they feel it won't live and the costs can be high 
sometimes. My vet (one of the good ones) said it was up to me, there was a 
chance she could live a long life. It depends on the person living with the 
cat.  How much do you love him (sorry bout that, could have sworn I saw her in 
your first mail).  My Annie was 4 and is now 8 and has never been sick in that 
time.  Nitnoy came with problems, a raccoon bit her tail off so she had stress 
to begin with.  She still lived a normal, healthy life until 2 weeks before she 
passed with her head on my shoulder.  There was no great pain for her, she 
simply sighed and was gone.  
One of the main things to do is avoid stress, that hurts the imune system.  The 
L-Lysine will boost his immune system and hel fight off the FELV or the 
secondary infection.  Because your baby is so young, it might be harder to 
fight it off, but if you are conserned enough to reach out for help, he has 
love to boost him and in my book that counts a lot.  I will keep both of you in 
my prayers.
 Lauraine Venter  wrote: 
> I can find any medications on line and get it past customs no problem my 
> worries is what medication to give as our vets here does not have an idea 
> either they just did the test said oh so sorry no vaccines to prevent this 
> illness in this country yet here is 15 days of vitamins and so sorry.  So I 
> am very worried about what to get with regards to medicine.  He lost 200g in 
> 4 days which is approx 7 ounces in 4 days and for a cat that is not good even 
> I know that, he is just sleepy the whole time and not eating a lot, I have 
> changed the food to a better product called Montego not your average 
> commercial Epol or something available in supermarkets this dry food is very 
> similar to IAMS just slightly cheaper.  I can get plenty of raw fish and meat 
> but the problem is this kitty of mine is very full of crap when it comes to 
> food since first day I got him so not sure if the change will work or not nor 
> have I ever tried the raw diet before very new to me.  Thanks for the advise 
> and care appreciate it a lot still angry and upset though but hey what can 
> you do if you live in a developing country where certain stuff is not 
> available as yet.
> 
> Kind Regards
> Lauraine Venter
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: dlg...@windstream.net [mailto:dlg...@windstream.net]
> Sent: 19 November 2012 10:06 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Cc: Lauraine Venter
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia
> 
> Can you go online to find medications?  Is it possible to get things thru 
> customs?  I recently lost my Nitnoy at age 5.  When I found her, she was 
> diagnosed as FELV +.  I also have 1 more who is near 8 years now, got her 
> when she was 4.  I have her on a Lysine paste whick pumps out measured doses. 
>  Name is Enisyl-F by Vetoquinol, a French company.  I got this from my vet.  
> Can you let those of us who are not familiar with grams what that comes to in 
> ounces?  Get her the best quality food you can.  Can you get fresh raw meat?  
> Otherwise, get canned or dry that does not contain corn, wheat or soy, as 
> most of these ingredients are genetically modified and are not good for our 
> animals or us.  I am sure you will hear from more of the group.  Hang in 
> there, give her lots of love and we will keep you in our prayers.  Good luck.
>  Lauraine Venter  wrote: 
> > Hi Everyone
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > I just had the worst day of my life, my one your old stray that I 
> > save from
> > 5 days old has just been diagnosed with Feline Leukemia and I do

Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia

2012-11-19 Thread Lauraine Venter
I can find any medications on line and get it past customs no problem my 
worries is what medication to give as our vets here does not have an idea 
either they just did the test said oh so sorry no vaccines to prevent this 
illness in this country yet here is 15 days of vitamins and so sorry.  So I am 
very worried about what to get with regards to medicine.  He lost 200g in 4 
days which is approx 7 ounces in 4 days and for a cat that is not good even I 
know that, he is just sleepy the whole time and not eating a lot, I have 
changed the food to a better product called Montego not your average commercial 
Epol or something available in supermarkets this dry food is very similar to 
IAMS just slightly cheaper.  I can get plenty of raw fish and meat but the 
problem is this kitty of mine is very full of crap when it comes to food since 
first day I got him so not sure if the change will work or not nor have I ever 
tried the raw diet before very new to me.  Thanks for the advise and care 
appreciate it a lot still angry and upset though but hey what can you do if you 
live in a developing country where certain stuff is not available as yet.

Kind Regards
Lauraine Venter

-Original Message-
From: dlg...@windstream.net [mailto:dlg...@windstream.net] 
Sent: 19 November 2012 10:06 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Cc: Lauraine Venter
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia

Can you go online to find medications?  Is it possible to get things thru 
customs?  I recently lost my Nitnoy at age 5.  When I found her, she was 
diagnosed as FELV +.  I also have 1 more who is near 8 years now, got her when 
she was 4.  I have her on a Lysine paste whick pumps out measured doses.  Name 
is Enisyl-F by Vetoquinol, a French company.  I got this from my vet.  Can you 
let those of us who are not familiar with grams what that comes to in ounces?  
Get her the best quality food you can.  Can you get fresh raw meat?  Otherwise, 
get canned or dry that does not contain corn, wheat or soy, as most of these 
ingredients are genetically modified and are not good for our animals or us.  I 
am sure you will hear from more of the group.  Hang in there, give her lots of 
love and we will keep you in our prayers.  Good luck.
 Lauraine Venter  wrote: 
> Hi Everyone
> 
>  
> 
> I just had the worst day of my life, my one your old stray that I save 
> from
> 5 days old has just been diagnosed with Feline Leukemia and I don't 
> know what to do he has already lost 200g in 4 days the Vet gave some 
> vitamins but I know that is not going to make things better.  I live 
> in Mocambique and had to hear today that yes there is a vaccine 
> available for prevent this illness but sadly not available in this 
> country nor is any treatment at all just some vitamins to try and 
> boost my kitty cat, I am so sad and upset and everything at once, is 
> there anything I can do please even willing to go holistic but obviously 
> bearing in mind where I live.
> 
>  
> 
> Kind Regards
> 
> Lauraine Venter
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 


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Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia

2012-11-19 Thread dlgegg
Can you go online to find medications?  Is it possible to get things thru 
customs?  I recently lost my Nitnoy at age 5.  When I found her, she was 
diagnosed as FELV +.  I also have 1 more who is near 8 years now, got her when 
she was 4.  I have her on a Lysine paste whick pumps out measured doses.  Name 
is Enisyl-F by Vetoquinol, a French company.  I got this from my vet.  Can you 
let those of us who are not familiar with grams what that comes to in ounces?  
Get her the best quality food you can.  Can you get fresh raw meat?  Otherwise, 
get canned or dry that does not contain corn, wheat or soy, as most of these 
ingredients are genetically modified and are not good for our animals or us.  I 
am sure you will hear from more of the group.  Hang in there, give her lots of 
love and we will keep you in our prayers.  Good luck.
 Lauraine Venter  wrote: 
> Hi Everyone
> 
>  
> 
> I just had the worst day of my life, my one your old stray that I save from
> 5 days old has just been diagnosed with Feline Leukemia and I don't know
> what to do he has already lost 200g in 4 days the Vet gave some vitamins but
> I know that is not going to make things better.  I live in Mocambique and
> had to hear today that yes there is a vaccine available for prevent this
> illness but sadly not available in this country nor is any treatment at all
> just some vitamins to try and boost my kitty cat, I am so sad and upset and
> everything at once, is there anything I can do please even willing to go
> holistic but obviously bearing in mind where I live.
> 
>  
> 
> Kind Regards
> 
> Lauraine Venter
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 


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[Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia

2012-11-19 Thread Lauraine Venter
Hi Everyone

 

I just had the worst day of my life, my one your old stray that I save from
5 days old has just been diagnosed with Feline Leukemia and I don't know
what to do he has already lost 200g in 4 days the Vet gave some vitamins but
I know that is not going to make things better.  I live in Mocambique and
had to hear today that yes there is a vaccine available for prevent this
illness but sadly not available in this country nor is any treatment at all
just some vitamins to try and boost my kitty cat, I am so sad and upset and
everything at once, is there anything I can do please even willing to go
holistic but obviously bearing in mind where I live.

 

Kind Regards

Lauraine Venter

 

 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia, how contagious is it?

2012-02-05 Thread GRAS
They can be free of symptoms, still be carriers that can pass it on,
unfortunately!

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lee Evans
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 5:51 PM
To: felvtalk
Subject: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia, how contagious is it?

 

There are cats who test positive who are not and cats who test negative who
are not.  The tests in general are not very reliable.  However, I have had
quite a lot of experience with cats who tested positive for FeLV.  Taco and
Smooch were two who tested positive for both FeLv and FIV.  They lived
together in good health for almost three years.  Taco developed lymphoma and
passed away quickly at home.  Smooch developed a non-specific illness, never
really stopped eating but suffered from non-absorption.  He passed away a
couple of months after his roommate.  I had kept them both isolated from the
rest of my group.  I miss them both terribly but I gave them the best chance
they could get to live the longest that they were meant to live.  I have one
more who tested positive for both.  I'm going to retest him this week,
finally get him neutered now that he is fat and healthy (street rescue). If
he's still positive for FeLv I will try to find him a roommate.  If he's
negative for FeLv he will go with my FIV+ cats.  In the past, I have had a
group of cats living with one who tested false negative for feline leukemia.
All lived together for about 7 years.  When Tiger became ill, he was about
13, never having been outside or exposed to any cats not in his family for
all those years.  Aside from the fact that he developed renal failure, he
tested positive for feline leukemia.  His 8 housemates were tested some time
after he passed.  All were negative and remained negative for the rest of
their lives.  The last of his mates passed two years ago at the age of 16.
I don't recommend mixing FeLV+ cats with others but it's also not a death
sentence and not as contagious as the vets will make you think, unless the
cat is actually showing symptoms of the illness.  However, everyone needs to
use her/his own judgment.  

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[Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia, how contagious is it?

2012-02-05 Thread Lee Evans
There are cats who test positive who are not and cats who test negative who are 
not.  The tests in general are not very reliable.  However, I have had quite a 
lot of experience with cats who tested positive for FeLV.  Taco and Smooch were 
two who tested positive for both FeLv and FIV.  They lived together in good 
health for almost three years.  Taco developed lymphoma and passed away quickly 
at home.  Smooch developed a non-specific illness, never really stopped eating 
but suffered from non-absorption.  He passed away a couple of months after 
his roommate.  I had kept them both isolated from the rest of my group.  I miss 
them both terribly but I gave them the best chance they could get to live the 
longest that they were meant to live.  I have one more who tested positive for 
both.  I'm going to retest him this week, finally get him neutered now that he 
is fat and healthy (street rescue). If he's still positive for FeLv I will try 
to find him
 a roommate.  If he's negative for FeLv he will go with my FIV+ cats.  In the 
past, I have had a group of cats living with one who tested false negative for 
feline leukemia.  All lived together for about 7 years.  When Tiger became ill, 
he was about 13, never having been outside or exposed to any cats not in his 
family for all those years.  Aside from the fact that he developed renal 
failure, he tested positive for feline leukemia.  His 8 housemates were tested 
some time after he passed.  All were negative and remained negative for the 
rest of their lives.  The last of his mates passed two years ago at the age of 
16.  I don't recommend mixing FeLV+ cats with others but it's also not a death 
sentence and not as contagious as the vets will make you think, unless the cat 
is actually showing symptoms of the illness.  However, everyone needs to 
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[Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Test and Diagnosis

2011-10-25 Thread Natalie
I sent this to Susan in CA:


http://www.natural-cat-health-remedies.com/feline-leukemia-test.html -
Feline Leukemia Test and Diagnosis


 

 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question

2011-08-12 Thread dlgegg
When I got Lil Bit and Casey, PALS gve them to me at a 2 for 1 price.  They had 
had them for over a year and wanted them to go to a home instead of the cage.  
They normally charge $150.00 per cat, complete with all the testing, shots and 
neuter/spay.  They do not let any out withot being neutered o spayed.


 Natalie  wrote: 
> Kelley,
> Do you also work/volunteer for a cat rescue group?  I wonder how many in
> this group do...it would be interesting to know. The price you quoted, for 2
> cats, sounds darn reasonable...it would be a lot more here on the East Coast
> (even with a 50% discount).
> I co-founded and operate ARA (Animal Rights Alliance) Project Save-A-Cat.
> Natalie
> -Original Message-
> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika
> Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2011 3:53 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
> 
> We just spent $270 getting TWO cats ready for adoption, which for us
> includes combo test, FELV vaccine, FVRCP vaccine, rabies, microchip, exam -
> and our vet is cut rate.  One needs a dental which will cost more.   We will
> adopt them out for $75 each.  That is a lot more than fried chicken and a
> couple of hamburgers.  I have spent thousands of dollars of my personal
> money when the rescue had none.
> 
> That doesn't include, of course, any sick cats we take in.  That is just for
> the basic adoption workup (except for the dental).
> 
> On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 12:35 PM,  wrote:
> 
> > But, it costsmoney.  I can see they reasoning , in a way.  Shelters
> usually
> > operate on a shoestring and are pushing thei limits just keeping animals
> fed
> > and sheltered. If it was me, I would do without fried chicken nd a couple
> of
> > hamburgers and get them tested.
> >
> >  Katy Doyle  wrote:
> > > It's not uncommon in Kentucky for shelters/rescues to just vaccinate the
> > cat
> > > instead of testing them.
> > >
> > > Lately, all I have done is fight to get them to test the animals.
> > Apparently
> > > "it costs too much" - but I think the cost is worth saving other cats
> > from
> > > getting exposed to FeLV.
> > >
> > >
> > > I'd say test Peaches, the vaccination doesn't cause the test to come out
> > > positive, so you should get a fairly accurate reading.
> > >
> > > Then go ahead and get everyone fully vaccinated against FeLV, just in
> > case
> > > =^_^=
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:10 PM, molvey...@hotmail.com <
> > molvey...@hotmail.com
> > > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I think I would definitely get Peaches tested.  If all your cats are
> > > > indoors only they really don't need to be vaccinated against FeLV.
> >  Only if
> > > > there's a chance they could get it.  But if you're not letting them
> out
> > and
> > > > you're not fostering other cats  then there's no risk of exposure to
> > the
> > > > virus so no real need for a vaccination.  If all your other cats have
> > been
> > > > tested and are negative also then Peaches wouldn't need the
> vaccination
> > > > either.  So as long as her combo test is negative, then you really
> > don't
> > > > need to worry about Nibbles.  It's totally up to you though.  Just my
> > > > thoughts. Course if Peaches' test is positive definitely get Nibbles
> up
> > to
> > > > speed.  And I think he does need to do the series of two shots over
> > again if
> > > > you decide to get him current like Lynda said.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for giving Peaches a home.  And kick that other lady in the
> butt
> > for
> > > > kicking Peaches out of the house just because she had a baby.
> > > >
> > > > Maureen
> > > >
> > > > sent from my AT&T Smartphone by HTC
> > > >
> > > > - Reply message -
> > > > From: "Martha Walton" 
> > > > Date: Thu, Aug 4, 2011 11:52 am
> > > > Subject: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
> > > >  To: 
> > > >
> > > > The family that owned Peaches found her abandoned outside a vacant
> > > > apartment.  Their neighbor moved out, but left the cat.  They took
> > Peaches
> > > > to the vet to discover that Peac

Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question

2011-08-06 Thread Natalie
Kelley,
Do you also work/volunteer for a cat rescue group?  I wonder how many in
this group do...it would be interesting to know. The price you quoted, for 2
cats, sounds darn reasonable...it would be a lot more here on the East Coast
(even with a 50% discount).
I co-founded and operate ARA (Animal Rights Alliance) Project Save-A-Cat.
Natalie
-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika
Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2011 3:53 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question

We just spent $270 getting TWO cats ready for adoption, which for us
includes combo test, FELV vaccine, FVRCP vaccine, rabies, microchip, exam -
and our vet is cut rate.  One needs a dental which will cost more.   We will
adopt them out for $75 each.  That is a lot more than fried chicken and a
couple of hamburgers.  I have spent thousands of dollars of my personal
money when the rescue had none.

That doesn't include, of course, any sick cats we take in.  That is just for
the basic adoption workup (except for the dental).

On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 12:35 PM,  wrote:

> But, it costsmoney.  I can see they reasoning , in a way.  Shelters
usually
> operate on a shoestring and are pushing thei limits just keeping animals
fed
> and sheltered. If it was me, I would do without fried chicken nd a couple
of
> hamburgers and get them tested.
>
>  Katy Doyle  wrote:
> > It's not uncommon in Kentucky for shelters/rescues to just vaccinate the
> cat
> > instead of testing them.
> >
> > Lately, all I have done is fight to get them to test the animals.
> Apparently
> > "it costs too much" - but I think the cost is worth saving other cats
> from
> > getting exposed to FeLV.
> >
> >
> > I'd say test Peaches, the vaccination doesn't cause the test to come out
> > positive, so you should get a fairly accurate reading.
> >
> > Then go ahead and get everyone fully vaccinated against FeLV, just in
> case
> > =^_^=
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:10 PM, molvey...@hotmail.com <
> molvey...@hotmail.com
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > I think I would definitely get Peaches tested.  If all your cats are
> > > indoors only they really don't need to be vaccinated against FeLV.
>  Only if
> > > there's a chance they could get it.  But if you're not letting them
out
> and
> > > you're not fostering other cats  then there's no risk of exposure to
> the
> > > virus so no real need for a vaccination.  If all your other cats have
> been
> > > tested and are negative also then Peaches wouldn't need the
vaccination
> > > either.  So as long as her combo test is negative, then you really
> don't
> > > need to worry about Nibbles.  It's totally up to you though.  Just my
> > > thoughts. Course if Peaches' test is positive definitely get Nibbles
up
> to
> > > speed.  And I think he does need to do the series of two shots over
> again if
> > > you decide to get him current like Lynda said.
> > >
> > > Thanks for giving Peaches a home.  And kick that other lady in the
butt
> for
> > > kicking Peaches out of the house just because she had a baby.
> > >
> > > Maureen
> > >
> > > sent from my AT&T Smartphone by HTC
> > >
> > > - Reply message -
> > > From: "Martha Walton" 
> > > Date: Thu, Aug 4, 2011 11:52 am
> > > Subject: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
> > >  To: 
> > >
> > > The family that owned Peaches found her abandoned outside a vacant
> > > apartment.  Their neighbor moved out, but left the cat.  They took
> Peaches
> > > to the vet to discover that Peaches already was spayed.  I don't know
> why
> > > the Vet gave her Feline Leukemia vaccinations without testing her
> first.
> > > They kept Peaches for almost 2 years and properly vetted her, wife had
> a
> > > baby and they didn't want Peaches anymore.  That's how Peaches came to
> live
> > > here.
> > >
> > > I am going to take her to the Vet to have her tested and will go ahead
> and
> > > give Nibbles vaccinations.
> > > I'll let you know what the vet says.
> > > Thanks for all your help!!  It has been hard to get information about
> what
> > > to do.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Lynda Wilson  > > >wrote:
> > >
> > > > Martha, you will have to s

Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question

2011-08-06 Thread Beth
i'm familiar with Alley Cat Allie's taske on testing ferasls because thete is a 
group here who follows their line. I completely disagree with it. I have 
re-released cats with FIV, but I think it is crazy to release cats with FeLV.  
Those cats will probably die a horrible lonely death & put other, even tame 
cats at risk. I cannot understand it.

Kelley Saveika  wrote:

>Alley Cat Allies recommends not testing for a couple of reasons.  Their
>reasoning can be found here.  http://www.alleycat.org/Page.aspx?pid=458   We
>follow their recommendations.
>
>If a cat is a friendly stray in a feral colony, we test - always test before
>adoption.  If they are pos we wait then retest with IFA.  One of our cats
>was adopted to a lovely lady on this list - she was double pos (we confirmed
>the FELV with IFA) and she's still doing well several years later.
>
>
>
>On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 2:30 PM, Natalie  wrote:
>
>> Many TNR don't test, unless a cat looks really sick, too sick to be
>> released
>> into a colony.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
>> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
>> dlg...@windstream.net
>> Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2011 1:36 PM
>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
>>
>> But, it costsmoney.  I can see they reasoning , in a way.  Shelters usually
>> operate on a shoestring and are pushing thei limits just keeping animals
>> fed
>> and sheltered. If it was me, I would do without fried chicken nd a couple
>> of
>> hamburgers and get them tested.
>>
>>  Katy Doyle  wrote:
>> > It's not uncommon in Kentucky for shelters/rescues to just vaccinate the
>> cat
>> > instead of testing them.
>> >
>> > Lately, all I have done is fight to get them to test the animals.
>> Apparently
>> > "it costs too much" - but I think the cost is worth saving other cats
>> from
>> > getting exposed to FeLV.
>> >
>> >
>> > I'd say test Peaches, the vaccination doesn't cause the test to come out
>> > positive, so you should get a fairly accurate reading.
>> >
>> > Then go ahead and get everyone fully vaccinated against FeLV, just in
>> case
>> > =^_^=
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:10 PM, molvey...@hotmail.com
>> > > > wrote:
>> >
>> > > I think I would definitely get Peaches tested.  If all your cats are
>> > > indoors only they really don't need to be vaccinated against FeLV.
>>  Only
>> if
>> > > there's a chance they could get it.  But if you're not letting them out
>> and
>> > > you're not fostering other cats  then there's no risk of exposure to
>> the
>> > > virus so no real need for a vaccination.  If all your other cats have
>> been
>> > > tested and are negative also then Peaches wouldn't need the vaccination
>> > > either.  So as long as her combo test is negative, then you really
>> don't
>> > > need to worry about Nibbles.  It's totally up to you though.  Just my
>> > > thoughts. Course if Peaches' test is positive definitely get Nibbles up
>> to
>> > > speed.  And I think he does need to do the series of two shots over
>> again if
>> > > you decide to get him current like Lynda said.
>> > >
>> > > Thanks for giving Peaches a home.  And kick that other lady in the butt
>> for
>> > > kicking Peaches out of the house just because she had a baby.
>> > >
>> > > Maureen
>> > >
>> > > sent from my AT&T Smartphone by HTC
>> > >
>> > > - Reply message -
>> > > From: "Martha Walton" 
>> > > Date: Thu, Aug 4, 2011 11:52 am
>> > > Subject: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
>> > >  To: 
>> > >
>> > > The family that owned Peaches found her abandoned outside a vacant
>> > > apartment.  Their neighbor moved out, but left the cat.  They took
>> Peaches
>> > > to the vet to discover that Peaches already was spayed.  I don't know
>> why
>> > > the Vet gave her Feline Leukemia vaccinations without testing her
>> first.
>> > > They kept Peaches for almost 2 years and properly vetted her, wife had
>> a
>> > > baby and they didn't wan

Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question

2011-08-06 Thread D.S.Louis
You are so right onwe are a"throw-away society".

 

--- On Sat, 8/6/11, dlg...@windstream.net  wrote:


From: dlg...@windstream.net 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Saturday, August 6, 2011, 8:49 AM


tHAT IS WHY OUR NATION IS IN THE SHAPE IT'S IN.  tHE ECONOMY IS BASED ON 
THROWAWAY AND BUY A NEW ONE.  cAR GETS A DENT, TRADE IT.  WE THROW AWAY 
CHILDREN AND/OR ABUSE THEM, DISCARD SPOUSES LIKE A USED PAPER CUP.  THE POOR 
ANIMALS DON'T STAND A CHANCE.  ME, I STOP AND PICK UP TURTLES WHO ARE CROSSING 
THE ROAD AND PUT THEM SAFELY IN THE GRASS  ON THE SIDE THEY WERE HEADING TO.  I 
EVEN STOPPED ON MY ROAD ONE DAY AND URGED A SNAKE ACROSS THE ROAD (HE WAS SO 
LONG I COULDN'T GO AROUND HIM) WITH A STICK.
 Natalie  wrote: 
> I hate people (except us)do you know how cowardly and cruel people are?
> They bring their cats/dogs to surrender at a shelter and claim that they are
> strays...a 14-yr old cat was just brought to a NY shelter, healthy but with
> a slight sniffle - how can anyone do that?  What kind of horrible race are
> we?  Baby comes, cat or dog get tossed out; a dog comes, the cat is
> abandoned...it's a throw-away-society!
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Martha Walton
> Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 11:53 AM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
> 
> The family that owned Peaches found her abandoned outside a vacant
> apartment.  Their neighbor moved out, but left the cat.  They took Peaches
> to the vet to discover that Peaches already was spayed.  I don't know why
> the Vet gave her Feline Leukemia vaccinations without testing her first.
> They kept Peaches for almost 2 years and properly vetted her, wife had a
> baby and they didn't want Peaches anymore.  That's how Peaches came to live
> here.
> 
> I am going to take her to the Vet to have her tested and will go ahead and
> give Nibbles vaccinations.
> I'll let you know what the vet says.
> Thanks for all your help!!  It has been hard to get information about what
> to do.
> 
> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Lynda Wilson
> wrote:
> 
> > Martha, you will have to start over on Nibbles. Once you get the first
> > shot, you have to get the second within 3 weeks of the first for it to be
> > effective.
> >
> > It would be wise to have Peaches tested. Getting her the vaccination
> > against FeLV will not show a positive test like the FIV would.  I would
> keep
> > her separate from the others of course, until her worms are gone and she
> has
> > had two FeLV tests that have the same result. Glad all the others are all
> > current! Your a good momma to be cautious.
> >
> > I hope this helps, we all try to share our experiences and knowledge on
> > this forum, but we are not experts :)
> >
> > Keep us posted.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > L
> > - Original Message - From: "Martha Walton"  > >
> > To: 
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 2:17 PM
> > Subject: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
> >
> >
> >  We have a new addition (Peaches) to my household, making a total of 4
> >> cats.
> >> Need advice on Feline Leukemia Vaccinations.
> >>
> >> I have not introduced new cat (Peaches) to my other cats, as I want to
> >> make
> >> sure all are safe against feline leukemia. Peaches is up to date with all
> >> shots, but waiting on vet to do fecal because I saw a tapeworm.
> >> Peaches is sequestered to basement. Very comfy down there.
> >>
> >> Here's the situation:
> >>
> >> *Peaches* (New Cat)
> >> Age: 4.5 yr
> >> Current vaccination for Feline Leukemia, but *was never tested* before
> >> vaccination.
> >> Peaches was never tested for Feline Leukemia, she was given 1st & 2nd
> >> feline
> >> leukemia in 2009.
> >> She also had a vaccination in 2010
> >>
> >> I have 3 other cats:
> >> All cats will stay indoors!
> >>
> >> *Nibbles *(got from shelter when 1 yr. old)
> >> Age: 2.5
> >> Nibbles had 1st Feline Leukemia shot 3/23/11, but not 2nd Feline Leukemia
> >> shot.
> >> Didn't get 2nd: worrying about tumors & didn't think that I would
> "rescue"
> >> a
> >> cat again and planning on keeping all cats indoors.
> >> *However, I rescued another cat.*
> >> Should I go ahead and give Nibbles her second shot of

Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question

2011-08-06 Thread Kelley Saveika
We just spent $270 getting TWO cats ready for adoption, which for us
includes combo test, FELV vaccine, FVRCP vaccine, rabies, microchip, exam -
and our vet is cut rate.  One needs a dental which will cost more.   We will
adopt them out for $75 each.  That is a lot more than fried chicken and a
couple of hamburgers.  I have spent thousands of dollars of my personal
money when the rescue had none.

That doesn't include, of course, any sick cats we take in.  That is just for
the basic adoption workup (except for the dental).

On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 12:35 PM,  wrote:

> But, it costsmoney.  I can see they reasoning , in a way.  Shelters usually
> operate on a shoestring and are pushing thei limits just keeping animals fed
> and sheltered. If it was me, I would do without fried chicken nd a couple of
> hamburgers and get them tested.
>
>  Katy Doyle  wrote:
> > It's not uncommon in Kentucky for shelters/rescues to just vaccinate the
> cat
> > instead of testing them.
> >
> > Lately, all I have done is fight to get them to test the animals.
> Apparently
> > "it costs too much" - but I think the cost is worth saving other cats
> from
> > getting exposed to FeLV.
> >
> >
> > I'd say test Peaches, the vaccination doesn't cause the test to come out
> > positive, so you should get a fairly accurate reading.
> >
> > Then go ahead and get everyone fully vaccinated against FeLV, just in
> case
> > =^_^=
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:10 PM, molvey...@hotmail.com <
> molvey...@hotmail.com
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > I think I would definitely get Peaches tested.  If all your cats are
> > > indoors only they really don't need to be vaccinated against FeLV.
>  Only if
> > > there's a chance they could get it.  But if you're not letting them out
> and
> > > you're not fostering other cats  then there's no risk of exposure to
> the
> > > virus so no real need for a vaccination.  If all your other cats have
> been
> > > tested and are negative also then Peaches wouldn't need the vaccination
> > > either.  So as long as her combo test is negative, then you really
> don't
> > > need to worry about Nibbles.  It's totally up to you though.  Just my
> > > thoughts. Course if Peaches' test is positive definitely get Nibbles up
> to
> > > speed.  And I think he does need to do the series of two shots over
> again if
> > > you decide to get him current like Lynda said.
> > >
> > > Thanks for giving Peaches a home.  And kick that other lady in the butt
> for
> > > kicking Peaches out of the house just because she had a baby.
> > >
> > > Maureen
> > >
> > > sent from my AT&T Smartphone by HTC
> > >
> > > - Reply message -
> > > From: "Martha Walton" 
> > > Date: Thu, Aug 4, 2011 11:52 am
> > > Subject: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
> > >  To: 
> > >
> > > The family that owned Peaches found her abandoned outside a vacant
> > > apartment.  Their neighbor moved out, but left the cat.  They took
> Peaches
> > > to the vet to discover that Peaches already was spayed.  I don't know
> why
> > > the Vet gave her Feline Leukemia vaccinations without testing her
> first.
> > > They kept Peaches for almost 2 years and properly vetted her, wife had
> a
> > > baby and they didn't want Peaches anymore.  That's how Peaches came to
> live
> > > here.
> > >
> > > I am going to take her to the Vet to have her tested and will go ahead
> and
> > > give Nibbles vaccinations.
> > > I'll let you know what the vet says.
> > > Thanks for all your help!!  It has been hard to get information about
> what
> > > to do.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Lynda Wilson  > > >wrote:
> > >
> > > > Martha, you will have to start over on Nibbles. Once you get the
> first
> > > > shot, you have to get the second within 3 weeks of the first for it
> to be
> > > > effective.
> > > >
> > > > It would be wise to have Peaches tested. Getting her the vaccination
> > > > against FeLV will not show a positive test like the FIV would.  I
> would
> > > keep
> > > > her separate from the others of course, until her worms are gone and
> she
> > > has
> > > > had two FeLV tests that have the same result. Glad all the others 

Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question

2011-08-06 Thread Kelley Saveika
Alley Cat Allies recommends not testing for a couple of reasons.  Their
reasoning can be found here.  http://www.alleycat.org/Page.aspx?pid=458   We
follow their recommendations.

If a cat is a friendly stray in a feral colony, we test - always test before
adoption.  If they are pos we wait then retest with IFA.  One of our cats
was adopted to a lovely lady on this list - she was double pos (we confirmed
the FELV with IFA) and she's still doing well several years later.



On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 2:30 PM, Natalie  wrote:

> Many TNR don't test, unless a cat looks really sick, too sick to be
> released
> into a colony.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
> dlg...@windstream.net
> Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2011 1:36 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
>
> But, it costsmoney.  I can see they reasoning , in a way.  Shelters usually
> operate on a shoestring and are pushing thei limits just keeping animals
> fed
> and sheltered. If it was me, I would do without fried chicken nd a couple
> of
> hamburgers and get them tested.
>
>  Katy Doyle  wrote:
> > It's not uncommon in Kentucky for shelters/rescues to just vaccinate the
> cat
> > instead of testing them.
> >
> > Lately, all I have done is fight to get them to test the animals.
> Apparently
> > "it costs too much" - but I think the cost is worth saving other cats
> from
> > getting exposed to FeLV.
> >
> >
> > I'd say test Peaches, the vaccination doesn't cause the test to come out
> > positive, so you should get a fairly accurate reading.
> >
> > Then go ahead and get everyone fully vaccinated against FeLV, just in
> case
> > =^_^=
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:10 PM, molvey...@hotmail.com
>  > > wrote:
> >
> > > I think I would definitely get Peaches tested.  If all your cats are
> > > indoors only they really don't need to be vaccinated against FeLV.
>  Only
> if
> > > there's a chance they could get it.  But if you're not letting them out
> and
> > > you're not fostering other cats  then there's no risk of exposure to
> the
> > > virus so no real need for a vaccination.  If all your other cats have
> been
> > > tested and are negative also then Peaches wouldn't need the vaccination
> > > either.  So as long as her combo test is negative, then you really
> don't
> > > need to worry about Nibbles.  It's totally up to you though.  Just my
> > > thoughts. Course if Peaches' test is positive definitely get Nibbles up
> to
> > > speed.  And I think he does need to do the series of two shots over
> again if
> > > you decide to get him current like Lynda said.
> > >
> > > Thanks for giving Peaches a home.  And kick that other lady in the butt
> for
> > > kicking Peaches out of the house just because she had a baby.
> > >
> > > Maureen
> > >
> > > sent from my AT&T Smartphone by HTC
> > >
> > > - Reply message -
> > > From: "Martha Walton" 
> > > Date: Thu, Aug 4, 2011 11:52 am
> > > Subject: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
> > >  To: 
> > >
> > > The family that owned Peaches found her abandoned outside a vacant
> > > apartment.  Their neighbor moved out, but left the cat.  They took
> Peaches
> > > to the vet to discover that Peaches already was spayed.  I don't know
> why
> > > the Vet gave her Feline Leukemia vaccinations without testing her
> first.
> > > They kept Peaches for almost 2 years and properly vetted her, wife had
> a
> > > baby and they didn't want Peaches anymore.  That's how Peaches came to
> live
> > > here.
> > >
> > > I am going to take her to the Vet to have her tested and will go ahead
> and
> > > give Nibbles vaccinations.
> > > I'll let you know what the vet says.
> > > Thanks for all your help!!  It has been hard to get information about
> what
> > > to do.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Lynda Wilson  > > >wrote:
> > >
> > > > Martha, you will have to start over on Nibbles. Once you get the
> first
> > > > shot, you have to get the second within 3 weeks of the first for it
> to
> be
> > > > effective.
> > > >
> > > > It would be wise t

Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question

2011-08-06 Thread Natalie
Many TNR don't test, unless a cat looks really sick, too sick to be released
into a colony.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
dlg...@windstream.net
Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2011 1:36 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question

But, it costsmoney.  I can see they reasoning , in a way.  Shelters usually
operate on a shoestring and are pushing thei limits just keeping animals fed
and sheltered. If it was me, I would do without fried chicken nd a couple of
hamburgers and get them tested. 

 Katy Doyle  wrote: 
> It's not uncommon in Kentucky for shelters/rescues to just vaccinate the
cat
> instead of testing them.
> 
> Lately, all I have done is fight to get them to test the animals.
Apparently
> "it costs too much" - but I think the cost is worth saving other cats from
> getting exposed to FeLV.
> 
> 
> I'd say test Peaches, the vaccination doesn't cause the test to come out
> positive, so you should get a fairly accurate reading.
> 
> Then go ahead and get everyone fully vaccinated against FeLV, just in case
> =^_^=
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:10 PM, molvey...@hotmail.com
 > wrote:
> 
> > I think I would definitely get Peaches tested.  If all your cats are
> > indoors only they really don't need to be vaccinated against FeLV.  Only
if
> > there's a chance they could get it.  But if you're not letting them out
and
> > you're not fostering other cats  then there's no risk of exposure to the
> > virus so no real need for a vaccination.  If all your other cats have
been
> > tested and are negative also then Peaches wouldn't need the vaccination
> > either.  So as long as her combo test is negative, then you really don't
> > need to worry about Nibbles.  It's totally up to you though.  Just my
> > thoughts. Course if Peaches' test is positive definitely get Nibbles up
to
> > speed.  And I think he does need to do the series of two shots over
again if
> > you decide to get him current like Lynda said.
> >
> > Thanks for giving Peaches a home.  And kick that other lady in the butt
for
> > kicking Peaches out of the house just because she had a baby.
> >
> > Maureen
> >
> > sent from my AT&T Smartphone by HTC
> >
> > - Reply message -
> > From: "Martha Walton" 
> > Date: Thu, Aug 4, 2011 11:52 am
> > Subject: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
> >  To: 
> >
> > The family that owned Peaches found her abandoned outside a vacant
> > apartment.  Their neighbor moved out, but left the cat.  They took
Peaches
> > to the vet to discover that Peaches already was spayed.  I don't know
why
> > the Vet gave her Feline Leukemia vaccinations without testing her first.
> > They kept Peaches for almost 2 years and properly vetted her, wife had a
> > baby and they didn't want Peaches anymore.  That's how Peaches came to
live
> > here.
> >
> > I am going to take her to the Vet to have her tested and will go ahead
and
> > give Nibbles vaccinations.
> > I'll let you know what the vet says.
> > Thanks for all your help!!  It has been hard to get information about
what
> > to do.
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Lynda Wilson  > >wrote:
> >
> > > Martha, you will have to start over on Nibbles. Once you get the first
> > > shot, you have to get the second within 3 weeks of the first for it to
be
> > > effective.
> > >
> > > It would be wise to have Peaches tested. Getting her the vaccination
> > > against FeLV will not show a positive test like the FIV would.  I
would
> > keep
> > > her separate from the others of course, until her worms are gone and
she
> > has
> > > had two FeLV tests that have the same result. Glad all the others are
all
> > > current! Your a good momma to be cautious.
> > >
> > > I hope this helps, we all try to share our experiences and knowledge
on
> > > this forum, but we are not experts :)
> > >
> > > Keep us posted.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > L
> > > - Original Message - From: "Martha Walton" <
> > marthawal...@gmail.com
> > > >
> > > To: 
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 2:17 PM
> > > Subject: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
> > >
> > >
> > >  We have a new addition (Peaches) to my household, making a total of 4
> > >> cats.
> > &g

Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question

2011-08-06 Thread dlgegg
But, it costsmoney.  I can see they reasoning , in a way.  Shelters usually 
operate on a shoestring and are pushing thei limits just keeping animals fed 
and sheltered. If it was me, I would do without fried chicken nd a couple of 
hamburgers and get them tested. 

 Katy Doyle  wrote: 
> It's not uncommon in Kentucky for shelters/rescues to just vaccinate the cat
> instead of testing them.
> 
> Lately, all I have done is fight to get them to test the animals. Apparently
> "it costs too much" - but I think the cost is worth saving other cats from
> getting exposed to FeLV.
> 
> 
> I'd say test Peaches, the vaccination doesn't cause the test to come out
> positive, so you should get a fairly accurate reading.
> 
> Then go ahead and get everyone fully vaccinated against FeLV, just in case
> =^_^=
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:10 PM, molvey...@hotmail.com  > wrote:
> 
> > I think I would definitely get Peaches tested.  If all your cats are
> > indoors only they really don't need to be vaccinated against FeLV.  Only if
> > there's a chance they could get it.  But if you're not letting them out and
> > you're not fostering other cats  then there's no risk of exposure to the
> > virus so no real need for a vaccination.  If all your other cats have been
> > tested and are negative also then Peaches wouldn't need the vaccination
> > either.  So as long as her combo test is negative, then you really don't
> > need to worry about Nibbles.  It's totally up to you though.  Just my
> > thoughts. Course if Peaches' test is positive definitely get Nibbles up to
> > speed.  And I think he does need to do the series of two shots over again if
> > you decide to get him current like Lynda said.
> >
> > Thanks for giving Peaches a home.  And kick that other lady in the butt for
> > kicking Peaches out of the house just because she had a baby.
> >
> > Maureen
> >
> > sent from my AT&T Smartphone by HTC
> >
> > - Reply message -
> > From: "Martha Walton" 
> > Date: Thu, Aug 4, 2011 11:52 am
> > Subject: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
> >  To: 
> >
> > The family that owned Peaches found her abandoned outside a vacant
> > apartment.  Their neighbor moved out, but left the cat.  They took Peaches
> > to the vet to discover that Peaches already was spayed.  I don't know why
> > the Vet gave her Feline Leukemia vaccinations without testing her first.
> > They kept Peaches for almost 2 years and properly vetted her, wife had a
> > baby and they didn't want Peaches anymore.  That's how Peaches came to live
> > here.
> >
> > I am going to take her to the Vet to have her tested and will go ahead and
> > give Nibbles vaccinations.
> > I'll let you know what the vet says.
> > Thanks for all your help!!  It has been hard to get information about what
> > to do.
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Lynda Wilson  > >wrote:
> >
> > > Martha, you will have to start over on Nibbles. Once you get the first
> > > shot, you have to get the second within 3 weeks of the first for it to be
> > > effective.
> > >
> > > It would be wise to have Peaches tested. Getting her the vaccination
> > > against FeLV will not show a positive test like the FIV would.  I would
> > keep
> > > her separate from the others of course, until her worms are gone and she
> > has
> > > had two FeLV tests that have the same result. Glad all the others are all
> > > current! Your a good momma to be cautious.
> > >
> > > I hope this helps, we all try to share our experiences and knowledge on
> > > this forum, but we are not experts :)
> > >
> > > Keep us posted.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > L
> > > - Original Message - From: "Martha Walton" <
> > marthawal...@gmail.com
> > > >
> > > To: 
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 2:17 PM
> > > Subject: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
> > >
> > >
> > >  We have a new addition (Peaches) to my household, making a total of 4
> > >> cats.
> > >> Need advice on Feline Leukemia Vaccinations.
> > >>
> > >> I have not introduced new cat (Peaches) to my other cats, as I want to
> > >> make
> > >> sure all are safe against feline leukemia. Peaches is up to date with
> > all
> > >> shots, but waiting on vet to do fecal because I saw a ta

Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question

2011-08-06 Thread dlgegg
I put out saucers of sugar water for the bees and wasps so they will leave the 
hummingbird feeders alone.  They were so crowded that some were landing on top 
of others, pushing them into the water.  They were drowning so I scooped them 
out on my fingers and spred them out on the deck railing.  I went into the 
house for paper towels to absorb some of the water.  When I got back out, 
others were licking it off the others and cleaning their wings so the could 
fly.  Only lost 5 out of 50. I know, I am nuts, but honeybees are having a hard 
time these days and we need them to pollinate our plants.


 CATHERINE DIDONNA  wrote: 
> I agree. I take the flys out of my outside  cat's drinking water to save them.
> 
> --- On Sat, 8/6/11, dlg...@windstream.net  wrote:
> 
> 
> From: dlg...@windstream.net 
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Date: Saturday, August 6, 2011, 11:49 AM
> 
> 
> tHAT IS WHY OUR NATION IS IN THE SHAPE IT'S IN.  tHE ECONOMY IS BASED ON 
> THROWAWAY AND BUY A NEW ONE.  cAR GETS A DENT, TRADE IT.  WE THROW AWAY 
> CHILDREN AND/OR ABUSE THEM, DISCARD SPOUSES LIKE A USED PAPER CUP.  THE POOR 
> ANIMALS DON'T STAND A CHANCE.  ME, I STOP AND PICK UP TURTLES WHO ARE 
> CROSSING THE ROAD AND PUT THEM SAFELY IN THE GRASS  ON THE SIDE THEY WERE 
> HEADING TO.  I EVEN STOPPED ON MY ROAD ONE DAY AND URGED A SNAKE ACROSS THE 
> ROAD (HE WAS SO LONG I COULDN'T GO AROUND HIM) WITH A STICK.
>  Natalie  wrote: 
> > I hate people (except us)do you know how cowardly and cruel people are?
> > They bring their cats/dogs to surrender at a shelter and claim that they are
> > strays...a 14-yr old cat was just brought to a NY shelter, healthy but with
> > a slight sniffle - how can anyone do that?  What kind of horrible race are
> > we?  Baby comes, cat or dog get tossed out; a dog comes, the cat is
> > abandoned...it's a throw-away-society!
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Martha Walton
> > Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 11:53 AM
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
> > 
> > The family that owned Peaches found her abandoned outside a vacant
> > apartment.  Their neighbor moved out, but left the cat.  They took Peaches
> > to the vet to discover that Peaches already was spayed.  I don't know why
> > the Vet gave her Feline Leukemia vaccinations without testing her first.
> > They kept Peaches for almost 2 years and properly vetted her, wife had a
> > baby and they didn't want Peaches anymore.  That's how Peaches came to live
> > here.
> > 
> > I am going to take her to the Vet to have her tested and will go ahead and
> > give Nibbles vaccinations.
> > I'll let you know what the vet says.
> > Thanks for all your help!!  It has been hard to get information about what
> > to do.
> > 
> > On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Lynda Wilson
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > Martha, you will have to start over on Nibbles. Once you get the first
> > > shot, you have to get the second within 3 weeks of the first for it to be
> > > effective.
> > >
> > > It would be wise to have Peaches tested. Getting her the vaccination
> > > against FeLV will not show a positive test like the FIV would.  I would
> > keep
> > > her separate from the others of course, until her worms are gone and she
> > has
> > > had two FeLV tests that have the same result. Glad all the others are all
> > > current! Your a good momma to be cautious.
> > >
> > > I hope this helps, we all try to share our experiences and knowledge on
> > > this forum, but we are not experts :)
> > >
> > > Keep us posted.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > L
> > > - Original Message - From: "Martha Walton"  > > >
> > > To: 
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 2:17 PM
> > > Subject: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
> > >
> > >
> > >  We have a new addition (Peaches) to my household, making a total of 4
> > >> cats.
> > >> Need advice on Feline Leukemia Vaccinations.
> > >>
> > >> I have not introduced new cat (Peaches) to my other cats, as I want to
> > >> make
> > >> sure all are safe against feline leukemia. Peaches is up to date with all
> > >> shots, but waiting on vet to do fecal because I saw a tapeworm.
> > >> Peaches is sequestered to ba

Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question

2011-08-06 Thread dlgegg
May she continue to enjoy a good life with people who care.  Good for you 
retesting her and giving her the chance to live.

- Martha Walton  wrote: 
> Peaches was tested for FeLV this morning, negative result!  Good news for
> Miss Peaches.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question

2011-08-06 Thread dlgegg
jUST THINK WHAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED TO HER IF SHE FELL INTO THE HANDS OF 
SOMEONE WHO DID NOT WANT TO SPEND THE MONEY TO RETEST.


 Natalie  wrote: 
> FANTASTIC NEWS
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson
> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 12:21 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
> 
> Hooray!!! I'm sounding the blow horn! Whoohoo, congrats to you both!
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Martha Walton" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 11:03 AM
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
> 
> 
> > Peaches was tested for FeLV this morning, negative result!  Good news for
> > Miss Peaches.
> > ___
> > Felvtalk mailing list
> > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
> >
> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question

2011-08-06 Thread CATHERINE DIDONNA
I agree. I take the flys out of my outside  cat's drinking water to save them.

--- On Sat, 8/6/11, dlg...@windstream.net  wrote:


From: dlg...@windstream.net 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Saturday, August 6, 2011, 11:49 AM


tHAT IS WHY OUR NATION IS IN THE SHAPE IT'S IN.  tHE ECONOMY IS BASED ON 
THROWAWAY AND BUY A NEW ONE.  cAR GETS A DENT, TRADE IT.  WE THROW AWAY 
CHILDREN AND/OR ABUSE THEM, DISCARD SPOUSES LIKE A USED PAPER CUP.  THE POOR 
ANIMALS DON'T STAND A CHANCE.  ME, I STOP AND PICK UP TURTLES WHO ARE CROSSING 
THE ROAD AND PUT THEM SAFELY IN THE GRASS  ON THE SIDE THEY WERE HEADING TO.  I 
EVEN STOPPED ON MY ROAD ONE DAY AND URGED A SNAKE ACROSS THE ROAD (HE WAS SO 
LONG I COULDN'T GO AROUND HIM) WITH A STICK.
 Natalie  wrote: 
> I hate people (except us)do you know how cowardly and cruel people are?
> They bring their cats/dogs to surrender at a shelter and claim that they are
> strays...a 14-yr old cat was just brought to a NY shelter, healthy but with
> a slight sniffle - how can anyone do that?  What kind of horrible race are
> we?  Baby comes, cat or dog get tossed out; a dog comes, the cat is
> abandoned...it's a throw-away-society!
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Martha Walton
> Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 11:53 AM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
> 
> The family that owned Peaches found her abandoned outside a vacant
> apartment.  Their neighbor moved out, but left the cat.  They took Peaches
> to the vet to discover that Peaches already was spayed.  I don't know why
> the Vet gave her Feline Leukemia vaccinations without testing her first.
> They kept Peaches for almost 2 years and properly vetted her, wife had a
> baby and they didn't want Peaches anymore.  That's how Peaches came to live
> here.
> 
> I am going to take her to the Vet to have her tested and will go ahead and
> give Nibbles vaccinations.
> I'll let you know what the vet says.
> Thanks for all your help!!  It has been hard to get information about what
> to do.
> 
> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Lynda Wilson
> wrote:
> 
> > Martha, you will have to start over on Nibbles. Once you get the first
> > shot, you have to get the second within 3 weeks of the first for it to be
> > effective.
> >
> > It would be wise to have Peaches tested. Getting her the vaccination
> > against FeLV will not show a positive test like the FIV would.  I would
> keep
> > her separate from the others of course, until her worms are gone and she
> has
> > had two FeLV tests that have the same result. Glad all the others are all
> > current! Your a good momma to be cautious.
> >
> > I hope this helps, we all try to share our experiences and knowledge on
> > this forum, but we are not experts :)
> >
> > Keep us posted.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > L
> > - Original Message - From: "Martha Walton"  > >
> > To: 
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 2:17 PM
> > Subject: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
> >
> >
> >  We have a new addition (Peaches) to my household, making a total of 4
> >> cats.
> >> Need advice on Feline Leukemia Vaccinations.
> >>
> >> I have not introduced new cat (Peaches) to my other cats, as I want to
> >> make
> >> sure all are safe against feline leukemia. Peaches is up to date with all
> >> shots, but waiting on vet to do fecal because I saw a tapeworm.
> >> Peaches is sequestered to basement. Very comfy down there.
> >>
> >> Here's the situation:
> >>
> >> *Peaches* (New Cat)
> >> Age: 4.5 yr
> >> Current vaccination for Feline Leukemia, but *was never tested* before
> >> vaccination.
> >> Peaches was never tested for Feline Leukemia, she was given 1st & 2nd
> >> feline
> >> leukemia in 2009.
> >> She also had a vaccination in 2010
> >>
> >> I have 3 other cats:
> >> All cats will stay indoors!
> >>
> >> *Nibbles *(got from shelter when 1 yr. old)
> >> Age: 2.5
> >> Nibbles had 1st Feline Leukemia shot 3/23/11, but not 2nd Feline Leukemia
> >> shot.
> >> Didn't get 2nd: worrying about tumors & didn't think that I would
> "rescue"
> >> a
> >> cat again and planning on keeping all cats indoors.
> >> *However, I rescued another cat.*
> >> Should I go ahead and give Nibbles her se

Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question

2011-08-06 Thread dlgegg
tHAT IS WHY OUR NATION IS IN THE SHAPE IT'S IN.  tHE ECONOMY IS BASED ON 
THROWAWAY AND BUY A NEW ONE.  cAR GETS A DENT, TRADE IT.  WE THROW AWAY 
CHILDREN AND/OR ABUSE THEM, DISCARD SPOUSES LIKE A USED PAPER CUP.  THE POOR 
ANIMALS DON'T STAND A CHANCE.  ME, I STOP AND PICK UP TURTLES WHO ARE CROSSING 
THE ROAD AND PUT THEM SAFELY IN THE GRASS  ON THE SIDE THEY WERE HEADING TO.  I 
EVEN STOPPED ON MY ROAD ONE DAY AND URGED A SNAKE ACROSS THE ROAD (HE WAS SO 
LONG I COULDN'T GO AROUND HIM) WITH A STICK.
 Natalie  wrote: 
> I hate people (except us)do you know how cowardly and cruel people are?
> They bring their cats/dogs to surrender at a shelter and claim that they are
> strays...a 14-yr old cat was just brought to a NY shelter, healthy but with
> a slight sniffle - how can anyone do that?  What kind of horrible race are
> we?  Baby comes, cat or dog get tossed out; a dog comes, the cat is
> abandoned...it's a throw-away-society!
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Martha Walton
> Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 11:53 AM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
> 
> The family that owned Peaches found her abandoned outside a vacant
> apartment.  Their neighbor moved out, but left the cat.  They took Peaches
> to the vet to discover that Peaches already was spayed.  I don't know why
> the Vet gave her Feline Leukemia vaccinations without testing her first.
> They kept Peaches for almost 2 years and properly vetted her, wife had a
> baby and they didn't want Peaches anymore.  That's how Peaches came to live
> here.
> 
> I am going to take her to the Vet to have her tested and will go ahead and
> give Nibbles vaccinations.
> I'll let you know what the vet says.
> Thanks for all your help!!  It has been hard to get information about what
> to do.
> 
> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Lynda Wilson
> wrote:
> 
> > Martha, you will have to start over on Nibbles. Once you get the first
> > shot, you have to get the second within 3 weeks of the first for it to be
> > effective.
> >
> > It would be wise to have Peaches tested. Getting her the vaccination
> > against FeLV will not show a positive test like the FIV would.  I would
> keep
> > her separate from the others of course, until her worms are gone and she
> has
> > had two FeLV tests that have the same result. Glad all the others are all
> > current! Your a good momma to be cautious.
> >
> > I hope this helps, we all try to share our experiences and knowledge on
> > this forum, but we are not experts :)
> >
> > Keep us posted.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > L
> > - Original Message - From: "Martha Walton"  > >
> > To: 
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 2:17 PM
> > Subject: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
> >
> >
> >  We have a new addition (Peaches) to my household, making a total of 4
> >> cats.
> >> Need advice on Feline Leukemia Vaccinations.
> >>
> >> I have not introduced new cat (Peaches) to my other cats, as I want to
> >> make
> >> sure all are safe against feline leukemia. Peaches is up to date with all
> >> shots, but waiting on vet to do fecal because I saw a tapeworm.
> >> Peaches is sequestered to basement. Very comfy down there.
> >>
> >> Here's the situation:
> >>
> >> *Peaches* (New Cat)
> >> Age: 4.5 yr
> >> Current vaccination for Feline Leukemia, but *was never tested* before
> >> vaccination.
> >> Peaches was never tested for Feline Leukemia, she was given 1st & 2nd
> >> feline
> >> leukemia in 2009.
> >> She also had a vaccination in 2010
> >>
> >> I have 3 other cats:
> >> All cats will stay indoors!
> >>
> >> *Nibbles *(got from shelter when 1 yr. old)
> >> Age: 2.5
> >> Nibbles had 1st Feline Leukemia shot 3/23/11, but not 2nd Feline Leukemia
> >> shot.
> >> Didn't get 2nd: worrying about tumors & didn't think that I would
> "rescue"
> >> a
> >> cat again and planning on keeping all cats indoors.
> >> *However, I rescued another cat.*
> >> Should I go ahead and give Nibbles her second shot of the series, or is
> it
> >> too late??
> >>
> >> *Littlebit*
> >> Age: 11
> >> Current Feline Leukemia vacc
> >>
> >> *Lacy*
> >> Age: 6 months
> >> Current Feline Leukemia vacc
> >>
&

Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question

2011-08-05 Thread Natalie
FANTASTIC NEWS

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 12:21 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question

Hooray!!! I'm sounding the blow horn! Whoohoo, congrats to you both!

- Original Message - 
From: "Martha Walton" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 11:03 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question


> Peaches was tested for FeLV this morning, negative result!  Good news for
> Miss Peaches.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question

2011-08-05 Thread Lynda Wilson

Hooray!!! I'm sounding the blow horn! Whoohoo, congrats to you both!

- Original Message - 
From: "Martha Walton" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 11:03 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question



Peaches was tested for FeLV this morning, negative result!  Good news for
Miss Peaches.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question

2011-08-05 Thread Martha Walton
Peaches was tested for FeLV this morning, negative result!  Good news for
Miss Peaches.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question

2011-08-04 Thread Beth
we sernt the vaccines back because ythe casts got ill. I don't know if they 
responded. we stopped using them.

TANYA NOE  wrote:

>Wow, that is really scary, I think I do remember you posting about this a 
>while ago. Did the manufacturer ever give any info after the vaccines were 
>sent back? Any explanation as to why the tests would be affected when the 
>veterinary world is told they won't?
>
>Tanya
>
>--- On Thu, 8/4/11, Beth  wrote:
>
>> From: Beth 
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> Date: Thursday, August 4, 2011, 7:33 PM
>> it happened at our shelter. we
>> vaccinated s wjole bunch of cats & they got  sick.
>> we retested them & they all came up positive. repeate
>> the tests a few days later & all the tests were back to
>> negative. I posted about it when it happened. we returned
>> the rest of the vaccines to the mfg.
>> 
>> TANYA NOE 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> >I am a licensed vet tech (though for the last year a
>> stay at home Mom) and I have never heard of a live FeLV
>> vaccine. Nor have I ever heard of it making a cat show
>> positive on a test. FIV and FIP are the only ones I have
>> ever heard of causing a false positive on a test. I will
>> check with a few of my vet friends and see if they can give
>> any more info.
>> >Tanya
>> >
>> >--- On Thu, 8/4/11, Lynda Wilson 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> From: Lynda Wilson 
>> >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
>> >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> >> Date: Thursday, August 4, 2011, 4:45 PM
>> >> Is this "live" vaccine new? I've
>> >> never heard that a vaccination for FeLV will make
>> a positive
>> >> result, but I'm getting a killed virus vaccination
>> for my
>> >> cats. I'll let you know what my vet says. Never
>> hurts to get
>> >> a second opinion :)
>> >> 
>> >> Thanks!
>> >> 
>> >> - Original Message - From: "Beth" 
>> >> To: 
>> >> Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 2:44 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> From what I've read they WILL test positive for
>> FeLV after
>> >> vaccination with a live vaccine. This happened at
>> our
>> >> shelter. I don't know how many days that lasts,
>> but she
>> >> would not have a false positive at this point.
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> Beth
>> >> 
>> >> Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> From: Martha Walton 
>> >> To: Katy Doyle 
>> >> Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> >> Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2011 1:38 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
>> >> 
>> >> Thanks everyone! My vet told me that Peaches would
>> test
>> >> positive because
>> >> she's had the FeLV vaccination.
>> >> I think I will call the vet that Peaches former
>> owners took
>> >> her to & ask
>> >> them to test Peaches.
>> >> Thanks for the advice, I'll let you know what they
>> say.
>> >> 
>> >> On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Katy Doyle 
>> >> wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> > It's not uncommon in Kentucky for
>> shelters/rescues to
>> >> just vaccinate the
>> >> > cat instead of testing them.
>> >> > 
>> >> > Lately, all I have done is fight to get them
>> to test
>> >> the animals.
>> >> > Apparently "it costs too much" - but I think
>> the cost
>> >> is worth saving other
>> >> > cats from getting exposed to FeLV.
>> >> > 
>> >> > 
>> >> > I'd say test Peaches, the vaccination doesn't
>> cause
>> >> the test to come out
>> >> > positive, so you should get a fairly
>> accurate
>> >> reading.
>> >> > 
>> >> > Then go ahead and get everyone fully
>> vaccinated
>> >> against FeLV, just in case
>> >> > =^_^=
>> >> > 
>> >> > 
>> >> > 
>> >> > 
>> >&

Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question

2011-08-04 Thread Diane Rosenfeldt
This comes from total ignorance of how the vaccine is made, but could it
possibly have been that the manufacturer had not properly "killed" the virus
in this particular batch? Whatever happened, scary, but it's good that the
cats ultimately reverted.

Diane R.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of TANYA NOE
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 6:45 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question

Wow, that is really scary, I think I do remember you posting about this a
while ago. Did the manufacturer ever give any info after the vaccines were
sent back? Any explanation as to why the tests would be affected when the
veterinary world is told they won't?

Tanya

--- On Thu, 8/4/11, Beth  wrote:

> From: Beth 
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Date: Thursday, August 4, 2011, 7:33 PM it happened at our shelter. we 
> vaccinated s wjole bunch of cats & they got  sick.
> we retested them & they all came up positive. repeate the tests a few 
> days later & all the tests were back to negative. I posted about it 
> when it happened. we returned the rest of the vaccines to the mfg.
> 
> TANYA NOE 
> wrote:
> 
> >I am a licensed vet tech (though for the last year a
> stay at home Mom) and I have never heard of a live FeLV vaccine. Nor 
> have I ever heard of it making a cat show positive on a test. FIV and 
> FIP are the only ones I have ever heard of causing a false positive on 
> a test. I will check with a few of my vet friends and see if they can 
> give any more info.
> >Tanya
> >
> >--- On Thu, 8/4/11, Lynda Wilson 
> wrote:
> >
> >> From: Lynda Wilson 
> >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
> >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> >> Date: Thursday, August 4, 2011, 4:45 PM Is this "live" vaccine new? 
> >> I've never heard that a vaccination for FeLV will make
> a positive
> >> result, but I'm getting a killed virus vaccination
> for my
> >> cats. I'll let you know what my vet says. Never
> hurts to get
> >> a second opinion :)
> >> 
> >> Thanks!
> >> 
> >> - Original Message - From: "Beth" 
> >> To: 
> >> Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 2:44 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
> >> 
> >> 
> >> From what I've read they WILL test positive for
> FeLV after
> >> vaccination with a live vaccine. This happened at
> our
> >> shelter. I don't know how many days that lasts,
> but she
> >> would not have a false positive at this point.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Beth
> >> 
> >> Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> From: Martha Walton 
> >> To: Katy Doyle 
> >> Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> >> Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2011 1:38 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
> >> 
> >> Thanks everyone! My vet told me that Peaches would
> test
> >> positive because
> >> she's had the FeLV vaccination.
> >> I think I will call the vet that Peaches former
> owners took
> >> her to & ask
> >> them to test Peaches.
> >> Thanks for the advice, I'll let you know what they
> say.
> >> 
> >> On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Katy Doyle
wrote:
> >> 
> >> > It's not uncommon in Kentucky for
> shelters/rescues to
> >> just vaccinate the
> >> > cat instead of testing them.
> >> > 
> >> > Lately, all I have done is fight to get them
> to test
> >> the animals.
> >> > Apparently "it costs too much" - but I think
> the cost
> >> is worth saving other
> >> > cats from getting exposed to FeLV.
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > I'd say test Peaches, the vaccination doesn't
> cause
> >> the test to come out
> >> > positive, so you should get a fairly
> accurate
> >> reading.
> >> > 
> >> > Then go ahead and get everyone fully
> vaccinated
> >> against FeLV, just in case
> >> > =^_^=
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:10 PM, molvey...@hotmail.com
> >> <
> >>

Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question

2011-08-04 Thread TANYA NOE
Wow, that is really scary, I think I do remember you posting about this a while 
ago. Did the manufacturer ever give any info after the vaccines were sent back? 
Any explanation as to why the tests would be affected when the veterinary world 
is told they won't?

Tanya

--- On Thu, 8/4/11, Beth  wrote:

> From: Beth 
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Date: Thursday, August 4, 2011, 7:33 PM
> it happened at our shelter. we
> vaccinated s wjole bunch of cats & they got  sick.
> we retested them & they all came up positive. repeate
> the tests a few days later & all the tests were back to
> negative. I posted about it when it happened. we returned
> the rest of the vaccines to the mfg.
> 
> TANYA NOE 
> wrote:
> 
> >I am a licensed vet tech (though for the last year a
> stay at home Mom) and I have never heard of a live FeLV
> vaccine. Nor have I ever heard of it making a cat show
> positive on a test. FIV and FIP are the only ones I have
> ever heard of causing a false positive on a test. I will
> check with a few of my vet friends and see if they can give
> any more info.
> >Tanya
> >
> >--- On Thu, 8/4/11, Lynda Wilson 
> wrote:
> >
> >> From: Lynda Wilson 
> >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
> >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> >> Date: Thursday, August 4, 2011, 4:45 PM
> >> Is this "live" vaccine new? I've
> >> never heard that a vaccination for FeLV will make
> a positive
> >> result, but I'm getting a killed virus vaccination
> for my
> >> cats. I'll let you know what my vet says. Never
> hurts to get
> >> a second opinion :)
> >> 
> >> Thanks!
> >> 
> >> - Original Message - From: "Beth" 
> >> To: 
> >> Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 2:44 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
> >> 
> >> 
> >> From what I've read they WILL test positive for
> FeLV after
> >> vaccination with a live vaccine. This happened at
> our
> >> shelter. I don't know how many days that lasts,
> but she
> >> would not have a false positive at this point.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Beth
> >> 
> >> Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> From: Martha Walton 
> >> To: Katy Doyle 
> >> Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> >> Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2011 1:38 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
> >> 
> >> Thanks everyone! My vet told me that Peaches would
> test
> >> positive because
> >> she's had the FeLV vaccination.
> >> I think I will call the vet that Peaches former
> owners took
> >> her to & ask
> >> them to test Peaches.
> >> Thanks for the advice, I'll let you know what they
> say.
> >> 
> >> On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Katy Doyle 
> >> wrote:
> >> 
> >> > It's not uncommon in Kentucky for
> shelters/rescues to
> >> just vaccinate the
> >> > cat instead of testing them.
> >> > 
> >> > Lately, all I have done is fight to get them
> to test
> >> the animals.
> >> > Apparently "it costs too much" - but I think
> the cost
> >> is worth saving other
> >> > cats from getting exposed to FeLV.
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > I'd say test Peaches, the vaccination doesn't
> cause
> >> the test to come out
> >> > positive, so you should get a fairly
> accurate
> >> reading.
> >> > 
> >> > Then go ahead and get everyone fully
> vaccinated
> >> against FeLV, just in case
> >> > =^_^=
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:10 PM, molvey...@hotmail.com
> >> <
> >> > molvey...@hotmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > 
> >> >> I think I would definitely get Peaches
> tested. If
> >> all your cats are
> >> >> indoors only they really don't need to
> be
> >> vaccinated against FeLV. Only if
> >> >> there's a chance they could get it. But
> if you're
> >> not letting them out and
> >> >> you're not fostering other cats t

Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question

2011-08-04 Thread Beth
it happened at our shelter. we vaccinated s wjole bunch of cats & they got  
sick. we retested them & they all came up positive. repeate the tests a few 
days later & all the tests were back to negative. I posted about it when it 
happened. we returned the rest of the vaccines to the mfg.

TANYA NOE  wrote:

>I am a licensed vet tech (though for the last year a stay at home Mom) and I 
>have never heard of a live FeLV vaccine. Nor have I ever heard of it making a 
>cat show positive on a test. FIV and FIP are the only ones I have ever heard 
>of causing a false positive on a test. I will check with a few of my vet 
>friends and see if they can give any more info.
>Tanya
>
>--- On Thu, 8/4/11, Lynda Wilson  wrote:
>
>> From: Lynda Wilson 
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> Date: Thursday, August 4, 2011, 4:45 PM
>> Is this "live" vaccine new? I've
>> never heard that a vaccination for FeLV will make a positive
>> result, but I'm getting a killed virus vaccination for my
>> cats. I'll let you know what my vet says. Never hurts to get
>> a second opinion :)
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Beth" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 2:44 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
>> 
>> 
>> From what I've read they WILL test positive for FeLV after
>> vaccination with a live vaccine. This happened at our
>> shelter. I don't know how many days that lasts, but she
>> would not have a false positive at this point.
>> 
>> 
>> Beth
>> 
>> Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: Martha Walton 
>> To: Katy Doyle 
>> Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2011 1:38 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
>> 
>> Thanks everyone! My vet told me that Peaches would test
>> positive because
>> she's had the FeLV vaccination.
>> I think I will call the vet that Peaches former owners took
>> her to & ask
>> them to test Peaches.
>> Thanks for the advice, I'll let you know what they say.
>> 
>> On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Katy Doyle wrote:
>> 
>> > It's not uncommon in Kentucky for shelters/rescues to
>> just vaccinate the
>> > cat instead of testing them.
>> > 
>> > Lately, all I have done is fight to get them to test
>> the animals.
>> > Apparently "it costs too much" - but I think the cost
>> is worth saving other
>> > cats from getting exposed to FeLV.
>> > 
>> > 
>> > I'd say test Peaches, the vaccination doesn't cause
>> the test to come out
>> > positive, so you should get a fairly accurate
>> reading.
>> > 
>> > Then go ahead and get everyone fully vaccinated
>> against FeLV, just in case
>> > =^_^=
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:10 PM, molvey...@hotmail.com
>> <
>> > molvey...@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > 
>> >> I think I would definitely get Peaches tested. If
>> all your cats are
>> >> indoors only they really don't need to be
>> vaccinated against FeLV. Only if
>> >> there's a chance they could get it. But if you're
>> not letting them out and
>> >> you're not fostering other cats then there's no
>> risk of exposure to the
>> >> virus so no real need for a vaccination. If all
>> your other cats have been
>> >> tested and are negative also then Peaches wouldn't
>> need the vaccination
>> >> either. So as long as her combo test is negative,
>> then you really don't
>> >> need to worry about Nibbles. It's totally up to
>> you though. Just my
>> >> thoughts. Course if Peaches' test is positive
>> definitely get Nibbles up to
>> >> speed. And I think he does need to do the series
>> of two shots over again if
>> >> you decide to get him current like Lynda said.
>> >> 
>> >> Thanks for giving Peaches a home. And kick that
>> other lady in the butt
>> >> for kicking Peaches out of the house just because
>> she had a baby.
>> >> 
>> >> Maureen
>> >> 
>> >> sent from my AT&T Smartphone by HTC
&g

Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question

2011-08-04 Thread TANYA NOE
I am a licensed vet tech (though for the last year a stay at home Mom) and I 
have never heard of a live FeLV vaccine. Nor have I ever heard of it making a 
cat show positive on a test. FIV and FIP are the only ones I have ever heard of 
causing a false positive on a test. I will check with a few of my vet friends 
and see if they can give any more info.
Tanya

--- On Thu, 8/4/11, Lynda Wilson  wrote:

> From: Lynda Wilson 
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Date: Thursday, August 4, 2011, 4:45 PM
> Is this "live" vaccine new? I've
> never heard that a vaccination for FeLV will make a positive
> result, but I'm getting a killed virus vaccination for my
> cats. I'll let you know what my vet says. Never hurts to get
> a second opinion :)
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Beth" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 2:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
> 
> 
> From what I've read they WILL test positive for FeLV after
> vaccination with a live vaccine. This happened at our
> shelter. I don't know how many days that lasts, but she
> would not have a false positive at this point.
> 
> 
> Beth
> 
> Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org
> 
> 
> 
> ____
> From: Martha Walton 
> To: Katy Doyle 
> Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2011 1:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
> 
> Thanks everyone! My vet told me that Peaches would test
> positive because
> she's had the FeLV vaccination.
> I think I will call the vet that Peaches former owners took
> her to & ask
> them to test Peaches.
> Thanks for the advice, I'll let you know what they say.
> 
> On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Katy Doyle wrote:
> 
> > It's not uncommon in Kentucky for shelters/rescues to
> just vaccinate the
> > cat instead of testing them.
> > 
> > Lately, all I have done is fight to get them to test
> the animals.
> > Apparently "it costs too much" - but I think the cost
> is worth saving other
> > cats from getting exposed to FeLV.
> > 
> > 
> > I'd say test Peaches, the vaccination doesn't cause
> the test to come out
> > positive, so you should get a fairly accurate
> reading.
> > 
> > Then go ahead and get everyone fully vaccinated
> against FeLV, just in case
> > =^_^=
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:10 PM, molvey...@hotmail.com
> <
> > molvey...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> > 
> >> I think I would definitely get Peaches tested. If
> all your cats are
> >> indoors only they really don't need to be
> vaccinated against FeLV. Only if
> >> there's a chance they could get it. But if you're
> not letting them out and
> >> you're not fostering other cats then there's no
> risk of exposure to the
> >> virus so no real need for a vaccination. If all
> your other cats have been
> >> tested and are negative also then Peaches wouldn't
> need the vaccination
> >> either. So as long as her combo test is negative,
> then you really don't
> >> need to worry about Nibbles. It's totally up to
> you though. Just my
> >> thoughts. Course if Peaches' test is positive
> definitely get Nibbles up to
> >> speed. And I think he does need to do the series
> of two shots over again if
> >> you decide to get him current like Lynda said.
> >> 
> >> Thanks for giving Peaches a home. And kick that
> other lady in the butt
> >> for kicking Peaches out of the house just because
> she had a baby.
> >> 
> >> Maureen
> >> 
> >> sent from my AT&T Smartphone by HTC
> >> 
> >> - Reply message -
> >> From: "Martha Walton" 
> >> Date: Thu, Aug 4, 2011 11:52 am
> >> Subject: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
> >> To: 
> >> 
> >> The family that owned Peaches found her abandoned
> outside a vacant
> >> apartment. Their neighbor moved out, but left the
> cat. They took Peaches
> >> to the vet to discover that Peaches already was
> spayed. I don't know why
> >> the Vet gave her Feline Leukemia vaccinations
> without testing her first.
> >> They kept Peaches for almost 2 years and properly
> vetted her, wife had a
> >> baby and they didn't want Peaches anymore. That's
> how Peaches came 

Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question

2011-08-04 Thread Lynda Wilson
Is this "live" vaccine new? I've never heard that a vaccination for FeLV 
will make a positive result, but I'm getting a killed virus vaccination for 
my cats. I'll let you know what my vet says. Never hurts to get a second 
opinion :)


Thanks!

- Original Message - 
From: "Beth" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 2:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question


From what I've read they WILL test positive for FeLV after vaccination with 
a live vaccine. This happened at our shelter. I don't know how many days 
that lasts, but she would not have a false positive at this point.



Beth

Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org




From: Martha Walton 
To: Katy Doyle 
Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2011 1:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question

Thanks everyone! My vet told me that Peaches would test positive because
she's had the FeLV vaccination.
I think I will call the vet that Peaches former owners took her to & ask
them to test Peaches.
Thanks for the advice, I'll let you know what they say.

On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Katy Doyle wrote:


It's not uncommon in Kentucky for shelters/rescues to just vaccinate the
cat instead of testing them.

Lately, all I have done is fight to get them to test the animals.
Apparently "it costs too much" - but I think the cost is worth saving 
other

cats from getting exposed to FeLV.


I'd say test Peaches, the vaccination doesn't cause the test to come out
positive, so you should get a fairly accurate reading.

Then go ahead and get everyone fully vaccinated against FeLV, just in case
=^_^=






On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:10 PM, molvey...@hotmail.com <
molvey...@hotmail.com> wrote:


I think I would definitely get Peaches tested. If all your cats are
indoors only they really don't need to be vaccinated against FeLV. Only 
if
there's a chance they could get it. But if you're not letting them out 
and

you're not fostering other cats then there's no risk of exposure to the
virus so no real need for a vaccination. If all your other cats have been
tested and are negative also then Peaches wouldn't need the vaccination
either. So as long as her combo test is negative, then you really don't
need to worry about Nibbles. It's totally up to you though. Just my
thoughts. Course if Peaches' test is positive definitely get Nibbles up 
to
speed. And I think he does need to do the series of two shots over again 
if

you decide to get him current like Lynda said.

Thanks for giving Peaches a home. And kick that other lady in the butt
for kicking Peaches out of the house just because she had a baby.

Maureen

sent from my AT&T Smartphone by HTC

- Reply message -
From: "Martha Walton" 
Date: Thu, Aug 4, 2011 11:52 am
Subject: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
To: 

The family that owned Peaches found her abandoned outside a vacant
apartment. Their neighbor moved out, but left the cat. They took Peaches
to the vet to discover that Peaches already was spayed. I don't know why
the Vet gave her Feline Leukemia vaccinations without testing her first.
They kept Peaches for almost 2 years and properly vetted her, wife had a
baby and they didn't want Peaches anymore. That's how Peaches came to
live
here.

I am going to take her to the Vet to have her tested and will go ahead 
and

give Nibbles vaccinations.
I'll let you know what the vet says.
Thanks for all your help!! It has been hard to get information about what
to do.

On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Lynda Wilson wrote:

> Martha, you will have to start over on Nibbles. Once you get the first
> shot, you have to get the second within 3 weeks of the first for it to
be
> effective.
>
> It would be wise to have Peaches tested. Getting her the vaccination
> against FeLV will not show a positive test like the FIV would. I would
keep
> her separate from the others of course, until her worms are gone and 
> she

has
> had two FeLV tests that have the same result. Glad all the others are
all
> current! Your a good momma to be cautious.
>
> I hope this helps, we all try to share our experiences and knowledge on
> this forum, but we are not experts :)
>
> Keep us posted.
>
> Thanks,
> L
> - Original Message - From: "Martha Walton" <
marthawal...@gmail.com
> >
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 2:17 PM
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
>
>
> We have a new addition (Peaches) to my household, making a total of 4
>> cats.
>> Need advice on Feline Leukemia Vaccinations.
>>
>> I have not introduced new cat (Peaches) to my other cats, as I want to
>> make
>> sure all are safe against feline leukemia. Peaches is up

Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question

2011-08-04 Thread Beth
>From what I've read they WILL test positive for FeLV after vaccination with a 
>live vaccine. This happened at our shelter. I don't know how many days that 
>lasts, but she would not have a false positive at this point.

 
Beth

Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org
 



From: Martha Walton 
To: Katy Doyle 
Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2011 1:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question

Thanks everyone!  My vet told me that Peaches would test positive because
she's had the FeLV vaccination.
I think I will call the vet that Peaches former owners took her to & ask
them to test Peaches.
Thanks for the advice, I'll let you know what they say.

On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Katy Doyle wrote:

> It's not uncommon in Kentucky for shelters/rescues to just vaccinate the
> cat instead of testing them.
>
> Lately, all I have done is fight to get them to test the animals.
> Apparently "it costs too much" - but I think the cost is worth saving other
> cats from getting exposed to FeLV.
>
>
> I'd say test Peaches, the vaccination doesn't cause the test to come out
> positive, so you should get a fairly accurate reading.
>
> Then go ahead and get everyone fully vaccinated against FeLV, just in case
> =^_^=
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:10 PM, molvey...@hotmail.com <
> molvey...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I think I would definitely get Peaches tested.  If all your cats are
>> indoors only they really don't need to be vaccinated against FeLV.  Only if
>> there's a chance they could get it.  But if you're not letting them out and
>> you're not fostering other cats  then there's no risk of exposure to the
>> virus so no real need for a vaccination.  If all your other cats have been
>> tested and are negative also then Peaches wouldn't need the vaccination
>> either.  So as long as her combo test is negative, then you really don't
>> need to worry about Nibbles.  It's totally up to you though.  Just my
>> thoughts. Course if Peaches' test is positive definitely get Nibbles up to
>> speed.  And I think he does need to do the series of two shots over again if
>> you decide to get him current like Lynda said.
>>
>> Thanks for giving Peaches a home.  And kick that other lady in the butt
>> for kicking Peaches out of the house just because she had a baby.
>>
>> Maureen
>>
>> sent from my AT&T Smartphone by HTC
>>
>> - Reply message -
>> From: "Martha Walton" 
>> Date: Thu, Aug 4, 2011 11:52 am
>> Subject: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
>>  To: 
>>
>> The family that owned Peaches found her abandoned outside a vacant
>> apartment.  Their neighbor moved out, but left the cat.  They took Peaches
>> to the vet to discover that Peaches already was spayed.  I don't know why
>> the Vet gave her Feline Leukemia vaccinations without testing her first.
>> They kept Peaches for almost 2 years and properly vetted her, wife had a
>> baby and they didn't want Peaches anymore.  That's how Peaches came to
>> live
>> here.
>>
>> I am going to take her to the Vet to have her tested and will go ahead and
>> give Nibbles vaccinations.
>> I'll let you know what the vet says.
>> Thanks for all your help!!  It has been hard to get information about what
>> to do.
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Lynda Wilson > >wrote:
>>
>> > Martha, you will have to start over on Nibbles. Once you get the first
>> > shot, you have to get the second within 3 weeks of the first for it to
>> be
>> > effective.
>> >
>> > It would be wise to have Peaches tested. Getting her the vaccination
>> > against FeLV will not show a positive test like the FIV would.  I would
>> keep
>> > her separate from the others of course, until her worms are gone and she
>> has
>> > had two FeLV tests that have the same result. Glad all the others are
>> all
>> > current! Your a good momma to be cautious.
>> >
>> > I hope this helps, we all try to share our experiences and knowledge on
>> > this forum, but we are not experts :)
>> >
>> > Keep us posted.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > L
>> > - Original Message - From: "Martha Walton" <
>> marthawal...@gmail.com
>> > >
>> > To: 
>> > Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 2:17 PM
>> > Subject: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
>> >

Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question

2011-08-04 Thread Lynda Wilson

Only with FIV, NOT FeLV...see link I sent: scroll down to FIV

http://www.acerlux.com/vaccines/felinevaccines.html
- Original Message - 
From: "Natalie" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 1:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question



I didn't realize that this is what happens with FeLV vaccines?  That's
terrible - it means that an abandoned or given up cat could tests positive
but only from a vaccine - I know it's the case with FIV Ft. Dodge 
vaccines,

that's why many vets don't like it very much!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Martha Walton
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 1:38 PM
To: Katy Doyle
Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question

Thanks everyone!  My vet told me that Peaches would test positive because
she's had the FeLV vaccination.
I think I will call the vet that Peaches former owners took her to & ask
them to test Peaches.
Thanks for the advice, I'll let you know what they say.

On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Katy Doyle 
wrote:



It's not uncommon in Kentucky for shelters/rescues to just vaccinate the
cat instead of testing them.

Lately, all I have done is fight to get them to test the animals.
Apparently "it costs too much" - but I think the cost is worth saving

other

cats from getting exposed to FeLV.


I'd say test Peaches, the vaccination doesn't cause the test to come out
positive, so you should get a fairly accurate reading.

Then go ahead and get everyone fully vaccinated against FeLV, just in 
case

=^_^=






On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:10 PM, molvey...@hotmail.com <
molvey...@hotmail.com> wrote:


I think I would definitely get Peaches tested.  If all your cats are
indoors only they really don't need to be vaccinated against FeLV.  Only

if

there's a chance they could get it.  But if you're not letting them out

and

you're not fostering other cats  then there's no risk of exposure to the
virus so no real need for a vaccination.  If all your other cats have

been

tested and are negative also then Peaches wouldn't need the vaccination
either.  So as long as her combo test is negative, then you really don't
need to worry about Nibbles.  It's totally up to you though.  Just my
thoughts. Course if Peaches' test is positive definitely get Nibbles up

to
speed.  And I think he does need to do the series of two shots over 
again

if

you decide to get him current like Lynda said.

Thanks for giving Peaches a home.  And kick that other lady in the butt
for kicking Peaches out of the house just because she had a baby.

Maureen

sent from my AT&T Smartphone by HTC

- Reply message -
From: "Martha Walton" 
Date: Thu, Aug 4, 2011 11:52 am
Subject: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
 To: 

The family that owned Peaches found her abandoned outside a vacant
apartment.  Their neighbor moved out, but left the cat.  They took

Peaches
to the vet to discover that Peaches already was spayed.  I don't know 
why

the Vet gave her Feline Leukemia vaccinations without testing her first.
They kept Peaches for almost 2 years and properly vetted her, wife had a
baby and they didn't want Peaches anymore.  That's how Peaches came to
live
here.

I am going to take her to the Vet to have her tested and will go ahead

and

give Nibbles vaccinations.
I'll let you know what the vet says.
Thanks for all your help!!  It has been hard to get information about

what

to do.

On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Lynda Wilson wrote:

> Martha, you will have to start over on Nibbles. Once you get the first
> shot, you have to get the second within 3 weeks of the first for it to
be
> effective.
>
> It would be wise to have Peaches tested. Getting her the vaccination
> against FeLV will not show a positive test like the FIV would.  I 
> would

keep
> her separate from the others of course, until her worms are gone and

she

has
> had two FeLV tests that have the same result. Glad all the others are
all
> current! Your a good momma to be cautious.
>
> I hope this helps, we all try to share our experiences and knowledge 
> on

> this forum, but we are not experts :)
>
> Keep us posted.
>
> Thanks,
> L
> - Original Message - From: "Martha Walton" <
marthawal...@gmail.com
> >
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 2:17 PM
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
>
>
>  We have a new addition (Peaches) to my household, making a total of 4
>> cats.
>> Need advice on Feline Leukemia Vaccinations.
>>
>> I have not introduced new cat (Peaches) to my other cats, as I want 
>> to

>> make
>> sure all are safe against feline leukemia. Peaches is up to date wi

Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question

2011-08-04 Thread Lynda Wilson

Exactly! It breaks my heart just thinking about it!
- Original Message - 
From: "Christiane Biagi" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 1:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question



Sort of makes me crazy cause a found cat that test pos for FIV is almost
always euthanized in shelters.  Who knows how many of those were owned 
cats

who, unfortunately, got the vaccine!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 1:58 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question

Ah, Christiane, you beat me to the punch!

On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:41 PM, Christiane Biagi
wrote:


Vet is confusing FIV and FELV vaccines.  Cats test pos for FIV after
being vaccinated for FIV but do NOT test pos for FELV after FELV

vaccination.


-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Martha
Walton
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 1:38 PM
To: Katy Doyle
Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question

 Thanks everyone!  My vet told me that Peaches would test positive
because she's had the FeLV vaccination.
I think I will call the vet that Peaches former owners took her to &
ask them to test Peaches.
Thanks for the advice, I'll let you know what they say.

On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Katy Doyle wrote:

> It's not uncommon in Kentucky for shelters/rescues to just vaccinate
> the cat instead of testing them.
>
> Lately, all I have done is fight to get them to test the animals.
> Apparently "it costs too much" - but I think the cost is worth
> saving other cats from getting exposed to FeLV.
>
>
> I'd say test Peaches, the vaccination doesn't cause the test to come
> out positive, so you should get a fairly accurate reading.
>
> Then go ahead and get everyone fully vaccinated against FeLV, just
> in case =^_^=
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:10 PM, molvey...@hotmail.com <
> molvey...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I think I would definitely get Peaches tested.  If all your cats
>> are indoors only they really don't need to be vaccinated against FeLV.
>> Only if there's a chance they could get it.  But if you're not
>> letting them out and you're not fostering other cats  then there's
>> no risk of exposure to the virus so no real need for a vaccination.
>> If all your other cats have been tested and are negative also then
>> Peaches wouldn't need the vaccination either.  So as long as her
>> combo test is negative, then you really don't need to worry about
>> Nibbles.  It's totally up to you though.  Just my thoughts. Course
>> if Peaches' test is positive definitely get Nibbles up to speed.
>> And I think he does need to do the series of two shots over again
>> if you
decide
to get him current like Lynda said.
>>
>> Thanks for giving Peaches a home.  And kick that other lady in the
>> butt for kicking Peaches out of the house just because she had a baby.
>>
>> Maureen
>>
>> sent from my AT&T Smartphone by HTC
>>
>> - Reply message -
>> From: "Martha Walton" 
>> Date: Thu, Aug 4, 2011 11:52 am
>> Subject: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
>>  To: 
>>
>> The family that owned Peaches found her abandoned outside a vacant
>> apartment.  Their neighbor moved out, but left the cat.  They took
>> Peaches to the vet to discover that Peaches already was spayed.  I
>> don't know why the Vet gave her Feline Leukemia vaccinations
>> without
testing her first.
>> They kept Peaches for almost 2 years and properly vetted her, wife
>> had a baby and they didn't want Peaches anymore.  That's how
>> Peaches came to live here.
>>
>> I am going to take her to the Vet to have her tested and will go
>> ahead and give Nibbles vaccinations.
>> I'll let you know what the vet says.
>> Thanks for all your help!!  It has been hard to get information
>> about what to do.
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Lynda Wilson
>> > >wrote:
>>
>> > Martha, you will have to start over on Nibbles. Once you get the
>> > first shot, you have to get the second within 3 weeks of the
>> > first for it to
>> be
>> > effective.
>> >
>> > It would be wise to have Peaches tested. Getting her the
>> > vaccination against FeLV will not show a positive test like the
>> > FIV would.  I would
>> keep
>> > her separate from th

Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question

2011-08-04 Thread Lynda Wilson
Thanks, Martha! Good luck to you, I will keep my fingers crossed for 
Peaches. You are so awesome to take such great care of her and taking her in 
as freely as you did!!
- Original Message - 
From: "Martha Walton" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question



Just called Peaches' former Vet.
They will test her for FeLV tomorrow.  Peaches was going to a
Bainfield/PetSmart.  I'll let you know the results of the test!!

On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:41 PM, Christiane Biagi 
wrote:


Vet is confusing FIV and FELV vaccines.  Cats test pos for FIV after 
being

vaccinated for FIV but do NOT test pos for FELV after FELV vaccination.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Martha Walton
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 1:38 PM
To: Katy Doyle
Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question

Thanks everyone!  My vet told me that Peaches would test positive because
she's had the FeLV vaccination.
I think I will call the vet that Peaches former owners took her to & ask
them to test Peaches.
Thanks for the advice, I'll let you know what they say.

On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Katy Doyle wrote:

> It's not uncommon in Kentucky for shelters/rescues to just vaccinate
> the cat instead of testing them.
>
> Lately, all I have done is fight to get them to test the animals.
> Apparently "it costs too much" - but I think the cost is worth saving
> other cats from getting exposed to FeLV.
>
>
> I'd say test Peaches, the vaccination doesn't cause the test to come
> out positive, so you should get a fairly accurate reading.
>
> Then go ahead and get everyone fully vaccinated against FeLV, just in
> case =^_^=
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:10 PM, molvey...@hotmail.com <
> molvey...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I think I would definitely get Peaches tested.  If all your cats are
>> indoors only they really don't need to be vaccinated against FeLV.
>> Only if there's a chance they could get it.  But if you're not
>> letting them out and you're not fostering other cats  then there's no
>> risk of exposure to the virus so no real need for a vaccination.  If
>> all your other cats have been tested and are negative also then
>> Peaches wouldn't need the vaccination either.  So as long as her
>> combo test is negative, then you really don't need to worry about
>> Nibbles.  It's totally up to you though.  Just my thoughts. Course if
>> Peaches' test is positive definitely get Nibbles up to speed.  And I
>> think he does need to do the series of two shots over again if you
decide
to get him current like Lynda said.
>>
>> Thanks for giving Peaches a home.  And kick that other lady in the
>> butt for kicking Peaches out of the house just because she had a baby.
>>
>> Maureen
>>
>> sent from my AT&T Smartphone by HTC
>>
>> - Reply message -
>> From: "Martha Walton" 
>> Date: Thu, Aug 4, 2011 11:52 am
>> Subject: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
>>  To: 
>>
>> The family that owned Peaches found her abandoned outside a vacant
>> apartment.  Their neighbor moved out, but left the cat.  They took
>> Peaches to the vet to discover that Peaches already was spayed.  I
>> don't know why the Vet gave her Feline Leukemia vaccinations without
testing her first.
>> They kept Peaches for almost 2 years and properly vetted her, wife
>> had a baby and they didn't want Peaches anymore.  That's how Peaches
>> came to live here.
>>
>> I am going to take her to the Vet to have her tested and will go
>> ahead and give Nibbles vaccinations.
>> I'll let you know what the vet says.
>> Thanks for all your help!!  It has been hard to get information about
>> what to do.
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Lynda Wilson
>> > >wrote:
>>
>> > Martha, you will have to start over on Nibbles. Once you get the
>> > first shot, you have to get the second within 3 weeks of the first
>> > for it to
>> be
>> > effective.
>> >
>> > It would be wise to have Peaches tested. Getting her the
>> > vaccination against FeLV will not show a positive test like the FIV
>> > would.  I would
>> keep
>> > her separate from the others of course, until her worms are gone
>> > and she
>> has
>> > had two FeLV tests that have the same result. Glad all the others
>> > are
>> all
>> > current! Your a go

Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question

2011-08-04 Thread Lynda Wilson
Martha, I would find another vet. FeLV vaccine will never show a positive on 
a test just b/c the cat has been vaccinated against it. It only happens with 
FIV & FIP vaccines.



- Original Message - 
From: "Christiane Biagi" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 1:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question



No--happens only w. FIV vaccine.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 2:35 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question

I didn't realize that this is what happens with FeLV vaccines?  That's
terrible - it means that an abandoned or given up cat could tests positive
but only from a vaccine - I know it's the case with FIV Ft. Dodge 
vaccines,

that's why many vets don't like it very much!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Martha Walton
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 1:38 PM
To: Katy Doyle
Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question

Thanks everyone!  My vet told me that Peaches would test positive because
she's had the FeLV vaccination.
I think I will call the vet that Peaches former owners took her to & ask
them to test Peaches.
Thanks for the advice, I'll let you know what they say.

On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Katy Doyle 
wrote:



It's not uncommon in Kentucky for shelters/rescues to just vaccinate
the cat instead of testing them.

Lately, all I have done is fight to get them to test the animals.
Apparently "it costs too much" - but I think the cost is worth saving

other

cats from getting exposed to FeLV.


I'd say test Peaches, the vaccination doesn't cause the test to come
out positive, so you should get a fairly accurate reading.

Then go ahead and get everyone fully vaccinated against FeLV, just in
case =^_^=






On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:10 PM, molvey...@hotmail.com <
molvey...@hotmail.com> wrote:


I think I would definitely get Peaches tested.  If all your cats are
indoors only they really don't need to be vaccinated against FeLV.
Only

if

there's a chance they could get it.  But if you're not letting them
out

and

you're not fostering other cats  then there's no risk of exposure to
the virus so no real need for a vaccination.  If all your other cats
have

been

tested and are negative also then Peaches wouldn't need the
vaccination either.  So as long as her combo test is negative, then
you really don't need to worry about Nibbles.  It's totally up to you
though.  Just my thoughts. Course if Peaches' test is positive
definitely get Nibbles up

to

speed.  And I think he does need to do the series of two shots over
again

if

you decide to get him current like Lynda said.

Thanks for giving Peaches a home.  And kick that other lady in the
butt for kicking Peaches out of the house just because she had a baby.

Maureen

sent from my AT&T Smartphone by HTC

- Reply message -
From: "Martha Walton" 
Date: Thu, Aug 4, 2011 11:52 am
Subject: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
 To: 

The family that owned Peaches found her abandoned outside a vacant
apartment.  Their neighbor moved out, but left the cat.  They took

Peaches

to the vet to discover that Peaches already was spayed.  I don't know
why the Vet gave her Feline Leukemia vaccinations without testing her

first.

They kept Peaches for almost 2 years and properly vetted her, wife
had a baby and they didn't want Peaches anymore.  That's how Peaches
came to live here.

I am going to take her to the Vet to have her tested and will go
ahead

and

give Nibbles vaccinations.
I'll let you know what the vet says.
Thanks for all your help!!  It has been hard to get information about

what

to do.

On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Lynda Wilson
wrote:

> Martha, you will have to start over on Nibbles. Once you get the
> first shot, you have to get the second within 3 weeks of the first
> for it to
be
> effective.
>
> It would be wise to have Peaches tested. Getting her the
> vaccination against FeLV will not show a positive test like the FIV
> would.  I would
keep
> her separate from the others of course, until her worms are gone
> and

she

has
> had two FeLV tests that have the same result. Glad all the others
> are
all
> current! Your a good momma to be cautious.
>
> I hope this helps, we all try to share our experiences and
> knowledge on this forum, but we are not experts :)
>
> Keep us posted.
>
> Thanks,
> L
> - Original Message - From: "Martha Walton" <
marthawal...@gmail.com
> >
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 2:17 PM
> Subject: [Felvtal

Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question

2011-08-04 Thread Christiane Biagi
No--happens only w. FIV vaccine.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 2:35 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question

I didn't realize that this is what happens with FeLV vaccines?  That's
terrible - it means that an abandoned or given up cat could tests positive
but only from a vaccine - I know it's the case with FIV Ft. Dodge vaccines,
that's why many vets don't like it very much!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Martha Walton
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 1:38 PM
To: Katy Doyle
Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question

Thanks everyone!  My vet told me that Peaches would test positive because
she's had the FeLV vaccination.
I think I will call the vet that Peaches former owners took her to & ask
them to test Peaches.
Thanks for the advice, I'll let you know what they say.

On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Katy Doyle wrote:

> It's not uncommon in Kentucky for shelters/rescues to just vaccinate 
> the cat instead of testing them.
>
> Lately, all I have done is fight to get them to test the animals.
> Apparently "it costs too much" - but I think the cost is worth saving
other
> cats from getting exposed to FeLV.
>
>
> I'd say test Peaches, the vaccination doesn't cause the test to come 
> out positive, so you should get a fairly accurate reading.
>
> Then go ahead and get everyone fully vaccinated against FeLV, just in 
> case =^_^=
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:10 PM, molvey...@hotmail.com < 
> molvey...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I think I would definitely get Peaches tested.  If all your cats are 
>> indoors only they really don't need to be vaccinated against FeLV.  
>> Only
if
>> there's a chance they could get it.  But if you're not letting them 
>> out
and
>> you're not fostering other cats  then there's no risk of exposure to 
>> the virus so no real need for a vaccination.  If all your other cats 
>> have
been
>> tested and are negative also then Peaches wouldn't need the 
>> vaccination either.  So as long as her combo test is negative, then 
>> you really don't need to worry about Nibbles.  It's totally up to you 
>> though.  Just my thoughts. Course if Peaches' test is positive 
>> definitely get Nibbles up
to
>> speed.  And I think he does need to do the series of two shots over 
>> again
if
>> you decide to get him current like Lynda said.
>>
>> Thanks for giving Peaches a home.  And kick that other lady in the 
>> butt for kicking Peaches out of the house just because she had a baby.
>>
>> Maureen
>>
>> sent from my AT&T Smartphone by HTC
>>
>> - Reply message -
>> From: "Martha Walton" 
>> Date: Thu, Aug 4, 2011 11:52 am
>> Subject: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
>>  To: 
>>
>> The family that owned Peaches found her abandoned outside a vacant 
>> apartment.  Their neighbor moved out, but left the cat.  They took
Peaches
>> to the vet to discover that Peaches already was spayed.  I don't know 
>> why the Vet gave her Feline Leukemia vaccinations without testing her
first.
>> They kept Peaches for almost 2 years and properly vetted her, wife 
>> had a baby and they didn't want Peaches anymore.  That's how Peaches 
>> came to live here.
>>
>> I am going to take her to the Vet to have her tested and will go 
>> ahead
and
>> give Nibbles vaccinations.
>> I'll let you know what the vet says.
>> Thanks for all your help!!  It has been hard to get information about
what
>> to do.
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Lynda Wilson 
>> > >wrote:
>>
>> > Martha, you will have to start over on Nibbles. Once you get the 
>> > first shot, you have to get the second within 3 weeks of the first 
>> > for it to
>> be
>> > effective.
>> >
>> > It would be wise to have Peaches tested. Getting her the 
>> > vaccination against FeLV will not show a positive test like the FIV 
>> > would.  I would
>> keep
>> > her separate from the others of course, until her worms are gone 
>> > and
she
>> has
>> > had two FeLV tests that have the same result. Glad all the others 
>> > are
>> all
>> > current! Your a good momma to be cautious.
>> >
&

Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question

2011-08-04 Thread Natalie
I didn't realize that this is what happens with FeLV vaccines?  That's
terrible - it means that an abandoned or given up cat could tests positive
but only from a vaccine - I know it's the case with FIV Ft. Dodge vaccines,
that's why many vets don't like it very much!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Martha Walton
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 1:38 PM
To: Katy Doyle
Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question

Thanks everyone!  My vet told me that Peaches would test positive because
she's had the FeLV vaccination.
I think I will call the vet that Peaches former owners took her to & ask
them to test Peaches.
Thanks for the advice, I'll let you know what they say.

On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Katy Doyle wrote:

> It's not uncommon in Kentucky for shelters/rescues to just vaccinate the
> cat instead of testing them.
>
> Lately, all I have done is fight to get them to test the animals.
> Apparently "it costs too much" - but I think the cost is worth saving
other
> cats from getting exposed to FeLV.
>
>
> I'd say test Peaches, the vaccination doesn't cause the test to come out
> positive, so you should get a fairly accurate reading.
>
> Then go ahead and get everyone fully vaccinated against FeLV, just in case
> =^_^=
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:10 PM, molvey...@hotmail.com <
> molvey...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I think I would definitely get Peaches tested.  If all your cats are
>> indoors only they really don't need to be vaccinated against FeLV.  Only
if
>> there's a chance they could get it.  But if you're not letting them out
and
>> you're not fostering other cats  then there's no risk of exposure to the
>> virus so no real need for a vaccination.  If all your other cats have
been
>> tested and are negative also then Peaches wouldn't need the vaccination
>> either.  So as long as her combo test is negative, then you really don't
>> need to worry about Nibbles.  It's totally up to you though.  Just my
>> thoughts. Course if Peaches' test is positive definitely get Nibbles up
to
>> speed.  And I think he does need to do the series of two shots over again
if
>> you decide to get him current like Lynda said.
>>
>> Thanks for giving Peaches a home.  And kick that other lady in the butt
>> for kicking Peaches out of the house just because she had a baby.
>>
>> Maureen
>>
>> sent from my AT&T Smartphone by HTC
>>
>> - Reply message -
>> From: "Martha Walton" 
>> Date: Thu, Aug 4, 2011 11:52 am
>> Subject: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
>>  To: 
>>
>> The family that owned Peaches found her abandoned outside a vacant
>> apartment.  Their neighbor moved out, but left the cat.  They took
Peaches
>> to the vet to discover that Peaches already was spayed.  I don't know why
>> the Vet gave her Feline Leukemia vaccinations without testing her first.
>> They kept Peaches for almost 2 years and properly vetted her, wife had a
>> baby and they didn't want Peaches anymore.  That's how Peaches came to
>> live
>> here.
>>
>> I am going to take her to the Vet to have her tested and will go ahead
and
>> give Nibbles vaccinations.
>> I'll let you know what the vet says.
>> Thanks for all your help!!  It has been hard to get information about
what
>> to do.
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Lynda Wilson > >wrote:
>>
>> > Martha, you will have to start over on Nibbles. Once you get the first
>> > shot, you have to get the second within 3 weeks of the first for it to
>> be
>> > effective.
>> >
>> > It would be wise to have Peaches tested. Getting her the vaccination
>> > against FeLV will not show a positive test like the FIV would.  I would
>> keep
>> > her separate from the others of course, until her worms are gone and
she
>> has
>> > had two FeLV tests that have the same result. Glad all the others are
>> all
>> > current! Your a good momma to be cautious.
>> >
>> > I hope this helps, we all try to share our experiences and knowledge on
>> > this forum, but we are not experts :)
>> >
>> > Keep us posted.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > L
>> > - Original Message - From: "Martha Walton" <
>> marthawal...@gmail.com
>> > >
>> > To: 
>> > Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 2:17

Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question

2011-08-04 Thread Christiane Biagi
Sort of makes me crazy cause a found cat that test pos for FIV is almost
always euthanized in shelters.  Who knows how many of those were owned cats
who, unfortunately, got the vaccine!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 1:58 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question

Ah, Christiane, you beat me to the punch!

On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:41 PM, Christiane Biagi
wrote:

> Vet is confusing FIV and FELV vaccines.  Cats test pos for FIV after 
> being vaccinated for FIV but do NOT test pos for FELV after FELV
vaccination.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Martha 
> Walton
> Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 1:38 PM
> To: Katy Doyle
> Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
>
>  Thanks everyone!  My vet told me that Peaches would test positive 
> because she's had the FeLV vaccination.
> I think I will call the vet that Peaches former owners took her to & 
> ask them to test Peaches.
> Thanks for the advice, I'll let you know what they say.
>
> On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Katy Doyle  >wrote:
>
> > It's not uncommon in Kentucky for shelters/rescues to just vaccinate 
> > the cat instead of testing them.
> >
> > Lately, all I have done is fight to get them to test the animals.
> > Apparently "it costs too much" - but I think the cost is worth 
> > saving other cats from getting exposed to FeLV.
> >
> >
> > I'd say test Peaches, the vaccination doesn't cause the test to come 
> > out positive, so you should get a fairly accurate reading.
> >
> > Then go ahead and get everyone fully vaccinated against FeLV, just 
> > in case =^_^=
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:10 PM, molvey...@hotmail.com < 
> > molvey...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I think I would definitely get Peaches tested.  If all your cats 
> >> are indoors only they really don't need to be vaccinated against FeLV.
> >> Only if there's a chance they could get it.  But if you're not 
> >> letting them out and you're not fostering other cats  then there's 
> >> no risk of exposure to the virus so no real need for a vaccination.  
> >> If all your other cats have been tested and are negative also then 
> >> Peaches wouldn't need the vaccination either.  So as long as her 
> >> combo test is negative, then you really don't need to worry about 
> >> Nibbles.  It's totally up to you though.  Just my thoughts. Course 
> >> if Peaches' test is positive definitely get Nibbles up to speed.  
> >> And I think he does need to do the series of two shots over again 
> >> if you
> decide
> to get him current like Lynda said.
> >>
> >> Thanks for giving Peaches a home.  And kick that other lady in the 
> >> butt for kicking Peaches out of the house just because she had a baby.
> >>
> >> Maureen
> >>
> >> sent from my AT&T Smartphone by HTC
> >>
> >> - Reply message -
> >> From: "Martha Walton" 
> >> Date: Thu, Aug 4, 2011 11:52 am
> >> Subject: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
> >>  To: 
> >>
> >> The family that owned Peaches found her abandoned outside a vacant 
> >> apartment.  Their neighbor moved out, but left the cat.  They took 
> >> Peaches to the vet to discover that Peaches already was spayed.  I 
> >> don't know why the Vet gave her Feline Leukemia vaccinations 
> >> without
> testing her first.
> >> They kept Peaches for almost 2 years and properly vetted her, wife 
> >> had a baby and they didn't want Peaches anymore.  That's how 
> >> Peaches came to live here.
> >>
> >> I am going to take her to the Vet to have her tested and will go 
> >> ahead and give Nibbles vaccinations.
> >> I'll let you know what the vet says.
> >> Thanks for all your help!!  It has been hard to get information 
> >> about what to do.
> >>
> >> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Lynda Wilson 
> >>  >> >wrote:
> >>
> >> > Martha, you will have to start over on Nibbles. Once you get the 
> >> > first shot, you have to get the second within 3 weeks of the 
> >> > first for it to
>

Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question

2011-08-04 Thread Katy Doyle
Ah, Christiane, you beat me to the punch!

On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:41 PM, Christiane Biagi wrote:

> Vet is confusing FIV and FELV vaccines.  Cats test pos for FIV after being
> vaccinated for FIV but do NOT test pos for FELV after FELV vaccination.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Martha Walton
> Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 1:38 PM
> To: Katy Doyle
> Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
>
>  Thanks everyone!  My vet told me that Peaches would test positive because
> she's had the FeLV vaccination.
> I think I will call the vet that Peaches former owners took her to & ask
> them to test Peaches.
> Thanks for the advice, I'll let you know what they say.
>
> On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Katy Doyle  >wrote:
>
> > It's not uncommon in Kentucky for shelters/rescues to just vaccinate
> > the cat instead of testing them.
> >
> > Lately, all I have done is fight to get them to test the animals.
> > Apparently "it costs too much" - but I think the cost is worth saving
> > other cats from getting exposed to FeLV.
> >
> >
> > I'd say test Peaches, the vaccination doesn't cause the test to come
> > out positive, so you should get a fairly accurate reading.
> >
> > Then go ahead and get everyone fully vaccinated against FeLV, just in
> > case =^_^=
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:10 PM, molvey...@hotmail.com <
> > molvey...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I think I would definitely get Peaches tested.  If all your cats are
> >> indoors only they really don't need to be vaccinated against FeLV.
> >> Only if there's a chance they could get it.  But if you're not
> >> letting them out and you're not fostering other cats  then there's no
> >> risk of exposure to the virus so no real need for a vaccination.  If
> >> all your other cats have been tested and are negative also then
> >> Peaches wouldn't need the vaccination either.  So as long as her
> >> combo test is negative, then you really don't need to worry about
> >> Nibbles.  It's totally up to you though.  Just my thoughts. Course if
> >> Peaches' test is positive definitely get Nibbles up to speed.  And I
> >> think he does need to do the series of two shots over again if you
> decide
> to get him current like Lynda said.
> >>
> >> Thanks for giving Peaches a home.  And kick that other lady in the
> >> butt for kicking Peaches out of the house just because she had a baby.
> >>
> >> Maureen
> >>
> >> sent from my AT&T Smartphone by HTC
> >>
> >> - Reply message -
> >> From: "Martha Walton" 
> >> Date: Thu, Aug 4, 2011 11:52 am
> >> Subject: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
> >>  To: 
> >>
> >> The family that owned Peaches found her abandoned outside a vacant
> >> apartment.  Their neighbor moved out, but left the cat.  They took
> >> Peaches to the vet to discover that Peaches already was spayed.  I
> >> don't know why the Vet gave her Feline Leukemia vaccinations without
> testing her first.
> >> They kept Peaches for almost 2 years and properly vetted her, wife
> >> had a baby and they didn't want Peaches anymore.  That's how Peaches
> >> came to live here.
> >>
> >> I am going to take her to the Vet to have her tested and will go
> >> ahead and give Nibbles vaccinations.
> >> I'll let you know what the vet says.
> >> Thanks for all your help!!  It has been hard to get information about
> >> what to do.
> >>
> >> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Lynda Wilson
> >>  >> >wrote:
> >>
> >> > Martha, you will have to start over on Nibbles. Once you get the
> >> > first shot, you have to get the second within 3 weeks of the first
> >> > for it to
> >> be
> >> > effective.
> >> >
> >> > It would be wise to have Peaches tested. Getting her the
> >> > vaccination against FeLV will not show a positive test like the FIV
> >> > would.  I would
> >> keep
> >> > her separate from the others of course, until her worms are gone
> >> > and she
> >> has
> >> > had two FeLV tests that have the same result. Glad all the others
> >> 

Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question

2011-08-04 Thread Martha Walton
Just called Peaches' former Vet.
They will test her for FeLV tomorrow.  Peaches was going to a
Bainfield/PetSmart.  I'll let you know the results of the test!!

On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:41 PM, Christiane Biagi wrote:

> Vet is confusing FIV and FELV vaccines.  Cats test pos for FIV after being
> vaccinated for FIV but do NOT test pos for FELV after FELV vaccination.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Martha Walton
> Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 1:38 PM
> To: Katy Doyle
> Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
>
> Thanks everyone!  My vet told me that Peaches would test positive because
> she's had the FeLV vaccination.
> I think I will call the vet that Peaches former owners took her to & ask
> them to test Peaches.
> Thanks for the advice, I'll let you know what they say.
>
> On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Katy Doyle  >wrote:
>
> > It's not uncommon in Kentucky for shelters/rescues to just vaccinate
> > the cat instead of testing them.
> >
> > Lately, all I have done is fight to get them to test the animals.
> > Apparently "it costs too much" - but I think the cost is worth saving
> > other cats from getting exposed to FeLV.
> >
> >
> > I'd say test Peaches, the vaccination doesn't cause the test to come
> > out positive, so you should get a fairly accurate reading.
> >
> > Then go ahead and get everyone fully vaccinated against FeLV, just in
> > case =^_^=
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:10 PM, molvey...@hotmail.com <
> > molvey...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I think I would definitely get Peaches tested.  If all your cats are
> >> indoors only they really don't need to be vaccinated against FeLV.
> >> Only if there's a chance they could get it.  But if you're not
> >> letting them out and you're not fostering other cats  then there's no
> >> risk of exposure to the virus so no real need for a vaccination.  If
> >> all your other cats have been tested and are negative also then
> >> Peaches wouldn't need the vaccination either.  So as long as her
> >> combo test is negative, then you really don't need to worry about
> >> Nibbles.  It's totally up to you though.  Just my thoughts. Course if
> >> Peaches' test is positive definitely get Nibbles up to speed.  And I
> >> think he does need to do the series of two shots over again if you
> decide
> to get him current like Lynda said.
> >>
> >> Thanks for giving Peaches a home.  And kick that other lady in the
> >> butt for kicking Peaches out of the house just because she had a baby.
> >>
> >> Maureen
> >>
> >> sent from my AT&T Smartphone by HTC
> >>
> >> - Reply message -
> >> From: "Martha Walton" 
> >> Date: Thu, Aug 4, 2011 11:52 am
> >> Subject: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
> >>  To: 
> >>
> >> The family that owned Peaches found her abandoned outside a vacant
> >> apartment.  Their neighbor moved out, but left the cat.  They took
> >> Peaches to the vet to discover that Peaches already was spayed.  I
> >> don't know why the Vet gave her Feline Leukemia vaccinations without
> testing her first.
> >> They kept Peaches for almost 2 years and properly vetted her, wife
> >> had a baby and they didn't want Peaches anymore.  That's how Peaches
> >> came to live here.
> >>
> >> I am going to take her to the Vet to have her tested and will go
> >> ahead and give Nibbles vaccinations.
> >> I'll let you know what the vet says.
> >> Thanks for all your help!!  It has been hard to get information about
> >> what to do.
> >>
> >> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Lynda Wilson
> >>  >> >wrote:
> >>
> >> > Martha, you will have to start over on Nibbles. Once you get the
> >> > first shot, you have to get the second within 3 weeks of the first
> >> > for it to
> >> be
> >> > effective.
> >> >
> >> > It would be wise to have Peaches tested. Getting her the
> >> > vaccination against FeLV will not show a positive test like the FIV
> >> > would.  I would
> >> keep
> >> > her separate from the others of course, until her worms are gone
> >> >

Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question

2011-08-04 Thread Lynda Wilson
Christiane, my apologies for being so confusing, all the initials for 
vaccines confuse me...I meant to say, don't ever get the FIP vaccine. Always 
discuss with a vet that you trust about the FIV vaccine as well.



- Original Message - 
From: "Christiane Biagi" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 12:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question



Vet is confusing FIV and FELV vaccines.  Cats test pos for FIV after being
vaccinated for FIV but do NOT test pos for FELV after FELV vaccination.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Martha Walton
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 1:38 PM
To: Katy Doyle
Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question

Thanks everyone!  My vet told me that Peaches would test positive because
she's had the FeLV vaccination.
I think I will call the vet that Peaches former owners took her to & ask
them to test Peaches.
Thanks for the advice, I'll let you know what they say.

On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Katy Doyle 
wrote:



It's not uncommon in Kentucky for shelters/rescues to just vaccinate
the cat instead of testing them.

Lately, all I have done is fight to get them to test the animals.
Apparently "it costs too much" - but I think the cost is worth saving
other cats from getting exposed to FeLV.


I'd say test Peaches, the vaccination doesn't cause the test to come
out positive, so you should get a fairly accurate reading.

Then go ahead and get everyone fully vaccinated against FeLV, just in
case =^_^=






On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:10 PM, molvey...@hotmail.com <
molvey...@hotmail.com> wrote:


I think I would definitely get Peaches tested.  If all your cats are
indoors only they really don't need to be vaccinated against FeLV.
Only if there's a chance they could get it.  But if you're not
letting them out and you're not fostering other cats  then there's no
risk of exposure to the virus so no real need for a vaccination.  If
all your other cats have been tested and are negative also then
Peaches wouldn't need the vaccination either.  So as long as her
combo test is negative, then you really don't need to worry about
Nibbles.  It's totally up to you though.  Just my thoughts. Course if
Peaches' test is positive definitely get Nibbles up to speed.  And I
think he does need to do the series of two shots over again if you 
decide

to get him current like Lynda said.


Thanks for giving Peaches a home.  And kick that other lady in the
butt for kicking Peaches out of the house just because she had a baby.

Maureen

sent from my AT&T Smartphone by HTC

- Reply message -
From: "Martha Walton" 
Date: Thu, Aug 4, 2011 11:52 am
Subject: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
 To: 

The family that owned Peaches found her abandoned outside a vacant
apartment.  Their neighbor moved out, but left the cat.  They took
Peaches to the vet to discover that Peaches already was spayed.  I
don't know why the Vet gave her Feline Leukemia vaccinations without

testing her first.

They kept Peaches for almost 2 years and properly vetted her, wife
had a baby and they didn't want Peaches anymore.  That's how Peaches
came to live here.

I am going to take her to the Vet to have her tested and will go
ahead and give Nibbles vaccinations.
I'll let you know what the vet says.
Thanks for all your help!!  It has been hard to get information about
what to do.

On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Lynda Wilson
wrote:

> Martha, you will have to start over on Nibbles. Once you get the
> first shot, you have to get the second within 3 weeks of the first
> for it to
be
> effective.
>
> It would be wise to have Peaches tested. Getting her the
> vaccination against FeLV will not show a positive test like the FIV
> would.  I would
keep
> her separate from the others of course, until her worms are gone
> and she
has
> had two FeLV tests that have the same result. Glad all the others
> are
all
> current! Your a good momma to be cautious.
>
> I hope this helps, we all try to share our experiences and
> knowledge on this forum, but we are not experts :)
>
> Keep us posted.
>
> Thanks,
> L
> - Original Message - From: "Martha Walton" <
marthawal...@gmail.com
> >
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 2:17 PM
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
>
>
>  We have a new addition (Peaches) to my household, making a total
> of 4
>> cats.
>> Need advice on Feline Leukemia Vaccinations.
>>
>> I have not introduced new cat (Peaches) to my other cats, as I
>> want to make sure all are safe against feline leukemia. Peaches is
>> up to date with
all
>> shots, but waiting on vet to 

Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question

2011-08-04 Thread Lynda Wilson
Hope this link is helpful to everyone. It discusses in great detail each 
feline vaccine. Scroll down to read about the FIV vaccine.


Here is the link:  http://www.acerlux.com/vaccines/felinevaccines.html

- Original Message - 
From: "Christiane Biagi" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 12:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question



Vet is confusing FIV and FELV vaccines.  Cats test pos for FIV after being
vaccinated for FIV but do NOT test pos for FELV after FELV vaccination.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Martha Walton
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 1:38 PM
To: Katy Doyle
Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question

Thanks everyone!  My vet told me that Peaches would test positive because
she's had the FeLV vaccination.
I think I will call the vet that Peaches former owners took her to & ask
them to test Peaches.
Thanks for the advice, I'll let you know what they say.

On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Katy Doyle 
wrote:



It's not uncommon in Kentucky for shelters/rescues to just vaccinate
the cat instead of testing them.

Lately, all I have done is fight to get them to test the animals.
Apparently "it costs too much" - but I think the cost is worth saving
other cats from getting exposed to FeLV.


I'd say test Peaches, the vaccination doesn't cause the test to come
out positive, so you should get a fairly accurate reading.

Then go ahead and get everyone fully vaccinated against FeLV, just in
case =^_^=






On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:10 PM, molvey...@hotmail.com <
molvey...@hotmail.com> wrote:


I think I would definitely get Peaches tested.  If all your cats are
indoors only they really don't need to be vaccinated against FeLV.
Only if there's a chance they could get it.  But if you're not
letting them out and you're not fostering other cats  then there's no
risk of exposure to the virus so no real need for a vaccination.  If
all your other cats have been tested and are negative also then
Peaches wouldn't need the vaccination either.  So as long as her
combo test is negative, then you really don't need to worry about
Nibbles.  It's totally up to you though.  Just my thoughts. Course if
Peaches' test is positive definitely get Nibbles up to speed.  And I
think he does need to do the series of two shots over again if you 
decide

to get him current like Lynda said.


Thanks for giving Peaches a home.  And kick that other lady in the
butt for kicking Peaches out of the house just because she had a baby.

Maureen

sent from my AT&T Smartphone by HTC

----- Reply message -
From: "Martha Walton" 
Date: Thu, Aug 4, 2011 11:52 am
Subject: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
 To: 

The family that owned Peaches found her abandoned outside a vacant
apartment.  Their neighbor moved out, but left the cat.  They took
Peaches to the vet to discover that Peaches already was spayed.  I
don't know why the Vet gave her Feline Leukemia vaccinations without

testing her first.

They kept Peaches for almost 2 years and properly vetted her, wife
had a baby and they didn't want Peaches anymore.  That's how Peaches
came to live here.

I am going to take her to the Vet to have her tested and will go
ahead and give Nibbles vaccinations.
I'll let you know what the vet says.
Thanks for all your help!!  It has been hard to get information about
what to do.

On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Lynda Wilson
wrote:

> Martha, you will have to start over on Nibbles. Once you get the
> first shot, you have to get the second within 3 weeks of the first
> for it to
be
> effective.
>
> It would be wise to have Peaches tested. Getting her the
> vaccination against FeLV will not show a positive test like the FIV
> would.  I would
keep
> her separate from the others of course, until her worms are gone
> and she
has
> had two FeLV tests that have the same result. Glad all the others
> are
all
> current! Your a good momma to be cautious.
>
> I hope this helps, we all try to share our experiences and
> knowledge on this forum, but we are not experts :)
>
> Keep us posted.
>
> Thanks,
> L
> - Original Message - From: "Martha Walton" <
marthawal...@gmail.com
> >
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 2:17 PM
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
>
>
>  We have a new addition (Peaches) to my household, making a total
> of 4
>> cats.
>> Need advice on Feline Leukemia Vaccinations.
>>
>> I have not introduced new cat (Peaches) to my other cats, as I
>> want to make sure all are safe against feline leukemia. Peaches is
>> up to date with
all
>> shots, but waiting on vet to do fecal because I sa

Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question

2011-08-04 Thread Lynda Wilson
Correct...don't ever get your cat/kitten vaccinated against FIV. It's too 
controversial and it WILL show a positive result on a FIV test.  FeLV will 
not after a vaccination.


- Original Message - 
From: "Christiane Biagi" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 12:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question



Vet is confusing FIV and FELV vaccines.  Cats test pos for FIV after being
vaccinated for FIV but do NOT test pos for FELV after FELV vaccination.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Martha Walton
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 1:38 PM
To: Katy Doyle
Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question

Thanks everyone!  My vet told me that Peaches would test positive because
she's had the FeLV vaccination.
I think I will call the vet that Peaches former owners took her to & ask
them to test Peaches.
Thanks for the advice, I'll let you know what they say.

On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Katy Doyle 
wrote:



It's not uncommon in Kentucky for shelters/rescues to just vaccinate
the cat instead of testing them.

Lately, all I have done is fight to get them to test the animals.
Apparently "it costs too much" - but I think the cost is worth saving
other cats from getting exposed to FeLV.


I'd say test Peaches, the vaccination doesn't cause the test to come
out positive, so you should get a fairly accurate reading.

Then go ahead and get everyone fully vaccinated against FeLV, just in
case =^_^=






On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:10 PM, molvey...@hotmail.com <
molvey...@hotmail.com> wrote:


I think I would definitely get Peaches tested.  If all your cats are
indoors only they really don't need to be vaccinated against FeLV.
Only if there's a chance they could get it.  But if you're not
letting them out and you're not fostering other cats  then there's no
risk of exposure to the virus so no real need for a vaccination.  If
all your other cats have been tested and are negative also then
Peaches wouldn't need the vaccination either.  So as long as her
combo test is negative, then you really don't need to worry about
Nibbles.  It's totally up to you though.  Just my thoughts. Course if
Peaches' test is positive definitely get Nibbles up to speed.  And I
think he does need to do the series of two shots over again if you 
decide

to get him current like Lynda said.


Thanks for giving Peaches a home.  And kick that other lady in the
butt for kicking Peaches out of the house just because she had a baby.

Maureen

sent from my AT&T Smartphone by HTC

----- Reply message -
From: "Martha Walton" 
Date: Thu, Aug 4, 2011 11:52 am
Subject: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
 To: 

The family that owned Peaches found her abandoned outside a vacant
apartment.  Their neighbor moved out, but left the cat.  They took
Peaches to the vet to discover that Peaches already was spayed.  I
don't know why the Vet gave her Feline Leukemia vaccinations without

testing her first.

They kept Peaches for almost 2 years and properly vetted her, wife
had a baby and they didn't want Peaches anymore.  That's how Peaches
came to live here.

I am going to take her to the Vet to have her tested and will go
ahead and give Nibbles vaccinations.
I'll let you know what the vet says.
Thanks for all your help!!  It has been hard to get information about
what to do.

On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Lynda Wilson
wrote:

> Martha, you will have to start over on Nibbles. Once you get the
> first shot, you have to get the second within 3 weeks of the first
> for it to
be
> effective.
>
> It would be wise to have Peaches tested. Getting her the
> vaccination against FeLV will not show a positive test like the FIV
> would.  I would
keep
> her separate from the others of course, until her worms are gone
> and she
has
> had two FeLV tests that have the same result. Glad all the others
> are
all
> current! Your a good momma to be cautious.
>
> I hope this helps, we all try to share our experiences and
> knowledge on this forum, but we are not experts :)
>
> Keep us posted.
>
> Thanks,
> L
> - Original Message - From: "Martha Walton" <
marthawal...@gmail.com
> >
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 2:17 PM
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
>
>
>  We have a new addition (Peaches) to my household, making a total
> of 4
>> cats.
>> Need advice on Feline Leukemia Vaccinations.
>>
>> I have not introduced new cat (Peaches) to my other cats, as I
>> want to make sure all are safe against feline leukemia. Peaches is
>> up to date with
all
>> shots, but waiting on vet to do fecal because I saw a tapeworm.
>

Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question

2011-08-04 Thread Christiane Biagi
Vet is confusing FIV and FELV vaccines.  Cats test pos for FIV after being
vaccinated for FIV but do NOT test pos for FELV after FELV vaccination.

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Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 1:38 PM
To: Katy Doyle
Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question

Thanks everyone!  My vet told me that Peaches would test positive because
she's had the FeLV vaccination.
I think I will call the vet that Peaches former owners took her to & ask
them to test Peaches.
Thanks for the advice, I'll let you know what they say.

On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Katy Doyle wrote:

> It's not uncommon in Kentucky for shelters/rescues to just vaccinate 
> the cat instead of testing them.
>
> Lately, all I have done is fight to get them to test the animals.
> Apparently "it costs too much" - but I think the cost is worth saving 
> other cats from getting exposed to FeLV.
>
>
> I'd say test Peaches, the vaccination doesn't cause the test to come 
> out positive, so you should get a fairly accurate reading.
>
> Then go ahead and get everyone fully vaccinated against FeLV, just in 
> case =^_^=
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:10 PM, molvey...@hotmail.com < 
> molvey...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I think I would definitely get Peaches tested.  If all your cats are 
>> indoors only they really don't need to be vaccinated against FeLV.  
>> Only if there's a chance they could get it.  But if you're not 
>> letting them out and you're not fostering other cats  then there's no 
>> risk of exposure to the virus so no real need for a vaccination.  If 
>> all your other cats have been tested and are negative also then 
>> Peaches wouldn't need the vaccination either.  So as long as her 
>> combo test is negative, then you really don't need to worry about 
>> Nibbles.  It's totally up to you though.  Just my thoughts. Course if 
>> Peaches' test is positive definitely get Nibbles up to speed.  And I 
>> think he does need to do the series of two shots over again if you decide
to get him current like Lynda said.
>>
>> Thanks for giving Peaches a home.  And kick that other lady in the 
>> butt for kicking Peaches out of the house just because she had a baby.
>>
>> Maureen
>>
>> sent from my AT&T Smartphone by HTC
>>
>> - Reply message -
>> From: "Martha Walton" 
>> Date: Thu, Aug 4, 2011 11:52 am
>> Subject: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
>>  To: 
>>
>> The family that owned Peaches found her abandoned outside a vacant 
>> apartment.  Their neighbor moved out, but left the cat.  They took 
>> Peaches to the vet to discover that Peaches already was spayed.  I 
>> don't know why the Vet gave her Feline Leukemia vaccinations without
testing her first.
>> They kept Peaches for almost 2 years and properly vetted her, wife 
>> had a baby and they didn't want Peaches anymore.  That's how Peaches 
>> came to live here.
>>
>> I am going to take her to the Vet to have her tested and will go 
>> ahead and give Nibbles vaccinations.
>> I'll let you know what the vet says.
>> Thanks for all your help!!  It has been hard to get information about 
>> what to do.
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Lynda Wilson 
>> > >wrote:
>>
>> > Martha, you will have to start over on Nibbles. Once you get the 
>> > first shot, you have to get the second within 3 weeks of the first 
>> > for it to
>> be
>> > effective.
>> >
>> > It would be wise to have Peaches tested. Getting her the 
>> > vaccination against FeLV will not show a positive test like the FIV 
>> > would.  I would
>> keep
>> > her separate from the others of course, until her worms are gone 
>> > and she
>> has
>> > had two FeLV tests that have the same result. Glad all the others 
>> > are
>> all
>> > current! Your a good momma to be cautious.
>> >
>> > I hope this helps, we all try to share our experiences and 
>> > knowledge on this forum, but we are not experts :)
>> >
>> > Keep us posted.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > L
>> > - Original Message - From: "Martha Walton" <
>> marthawal...@gmail.com
>> > >
>> > To: 
>> > Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 2:17 PM
>> > Subject: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia 

Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question

2011-08-04 Thread Martha Walton
Thanks everyone!  My vet told me that Peaches would test positive because
she's had the FeLV vaccination.
I think I will call the vet that Peaches former owners took her to & ask
them to test Peaches.
Thanks for the advice, I'll let you know what they say.

On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Katy Doyle wrote:

> It's not uncommon in Kentucky for shelters/rescues to just vaccinate the
> cat instead of testing them.
>
> Lately, all I have done is fight to get them to test the animals.
> Apparently "it costs too much" - but I think the cost is worth saving other
> cats from getting exposed to FeLV.
>
>
> I'd say test Peaches, the vaccination doesn't cause the test to come out
> positive, so you should get a fairly accurate reading.
>
> Then go ahead and get everyone fully vaccinated against FeLV, just in case
> =^_^=
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:10 PM, molvey...@hotmail.com <
> molvey...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I think I would definitely get Peaches tested.  If all your cats are
>> indoors only they really don't need to be vaccinated against FeLV.  Only if
>> there's a chance they could get it.  But if you're not letting them out and
>> you're not fostering other cats  then there's no risk of exposure to the
>> virus so no real need for a vaccination.  If all your other cats have been
>> tested and are negative also then Peaches wouldn't need the vaccination
>> either.  So as long as her combo test is negative, then you really don't
>> need to worry about Nibbles.  It's totally up to you though.  Just my
>> thoughts. Course if Peaches' test is positive definitely get Nibbles up to
>> speed.  And I think he does need to do the series of two shots over again if
>> you decide to get him current like Lynda said.
>>
>> Thanks for giving Peaches a home.  And kick that other lady in the butt
>> for kicking Peaches out of the house just because she had a baby.
>>
>> Maureen
>>
>> sent from my AT&T Smartphone by HTC
>>
>> - Reply message -
>> From: "Martha Walton" 
>> Date: Thu, Aug 4, 2011 11:52 am
>> Subject: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
>>  To: 
>>
>> The family that owned Peaches found her abandoned outside a vacant
>> apartment.  Their neighbor moved out, but left the cat.  They took Peaches
>> to the vet to discover that Peaches already was spayed.  I don't know why
>> the Vet gave her Feline Leukemia vaccinations without testing her first.
>> They kept Peaches for almost 2 years and properly vetted her, wife had a
>> baby and they didn't want Peaches anymore.  That's how Peaches came to
>> live
>> here.
>>
>> I am going to take her to the Vet to have her tested and will go ahead and
>> give Nibbles vaccinations.
>> I'll let you know what the vet says.
>> Thanks for all your help!!  It has been hard to get information about what
>> to do.
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Lynda Wilson > >wrote:
>>
>> > Martha, you will have to start over on Nibbles. Once you get the first
>> > shot, you have to get the second within 3 weeks of the first for it to
>> be
>> > effective.
>> >
>> > It would be wise to have Peaches tested. Getting her the vaccination
>> > against FeLV will not show a positive test like the FIV would.  I would
>> keep
>> > her separate from the others of course, until her worms are gone and she
>> has
>> > had two FeLV tests that have the same result. Glad all the others are
>> all
>> > current! Your a good momma to be cautious.
>> >
>> > I hope this helps, we all try to share our experiences and knowledge on
>> > this forum, but we are not experts :)
>> >
>> > Keep us posted.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > L
>> > - Original Message - From: "Martha Walton" <
>> marthawal...@gmail.com
>> > >
>> > To: 
>> > Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 2:17 PM
>> > Subject: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
>> >
>> >
>> >  We have a new addition (Peaches) to my household, making a total of 4
>> >> cats.
>> >> Need advice on Feline Leukemia Vaccinations.
>> >>
>> >> I have not introduced new cat (Peaches) to my other cats, as I want to
>> >> make
>> >> sure all are safe against feline leukemia. Peaches is up to date with
>> all
>> >> shots, but waiting on vet to do fe

Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question

2011-08-04 Thread Katy Doyle
It's not uncommon in Kentucky for shelters/rescues to just vaccinate the cat
instead of testing them.

Lately, all I have done is fight to get them to test the animals. Apparently
"it costs too much" - but I think the cost is worth saving other cats from
getting exposed to FeLV.


I'd say test Peaches, the vaccination doesn't cause the test to come out
positive, so you should get a fairly accurate reading.

Then go ahead and get everyone fully vaccinated against FeLV, just in case
=^_^=






On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:10 PM, molvey...@hotmail.com  wrote:

> I think I would definitely get Peaches tested.  If all your cats are
> indoors only they really don't need to be vaccinated against FeLV.  Only if
> there's a chance they could get it.  But if you're not letting them out and
> you're not fostering other cats  then there's no risk of exposure to the
> virus so no real need for a vaccination.  If all your other cats have been
> tested and are negative also then Peaches wouldn't need the vaccination
> either.  So as long as her combo test is negative, then you really don't
> need to worry about Nibbles.  It's totally up to you though.  Just my
> thoughts. Course if Peaches' test is positive definitely get Nibbles up to
> speed.  And I think he does need to do the series of two shots over again if
> you decide to get him current like Lynda said.
>
> Thanks for giving Peaches a home.  And kick that other lady in the butt for
> kicking Peaches out of the house just because she had a baby.
>
> Maureen
>
> sent from my AT&T Smartphone by HTC
>
> - Reply message -
> From: "Martha Walton" 
> Date: Thu, Aug 4, 2011 11:52 am
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
>  To: 
>
> The family that owned Peaches found her abandoned outside a vacant
> apartment.  Their neighbor moved out, but left the cat.  They took Peaches
> to the vet to discover that Peaches already was spayed.  I don't know why
> the Vet gave her Feline Leukemia vaccinations without testing her first.
> They kept Peaches for almost 2 years and properly vetted her, wife had a
> baby and they didn't want Peaches anymore.  That's how Peaches came to live
> here.
>
> I am going to take her to the Vet to have her tested and will go ahead and
> give Nibbles vaccinations.
> I'll let you know what the vet says.
> Thanks for all your help!!  It has been hard to get information about what
> to do.
>
> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Lynda Wilson  >wrote:
>
> > Martha, you will have to start over on Nibbles. Once you get the first
> > shot, you have to get the second within 3 weeks of the first for it to be
> > effective.
> >
> > It would be wise to have Peaches tested. Getting her the vaccination
> > against FeLV will not show a positive test like the FIV would.  I would
> keep
> > her separate from the others of course, until her worms are gone and she
> has
> > had two FeLV tests that have the same result. Glad all the others are all
> > current! Your a good momma to be cautious.
> >
> > I hope this helps, we all try to share our experiences and knowledge on
> > this forum, but we are not experts :)
> >
> > Keep us posted.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > L
> > - Original Message - From: "Martha Walton" <
> marthawal...@gmail.com
> > >
> > To: 
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 2:17 PM
> > Subject: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
> >
> >
> >  We have a new addition (Peaches) to my household, making a total of 4
> >> cats.
> >> Need advice on Feline Leukemia Vaccinations.
> >>
> >> I have not introduced new cat (Peaches) to my other cats, as I want to
> >> make
> >> sure all are safe against feline leukemia. Peaches is up to date with
> all
> >> shots, but waiting on vet to do fecal because I saw a tapeworm.
> >> Peaches is sequestered to basement. Very comfy down there.
> >>
> >> Here's the situation:
> >>
> >> *Peaches* (New Cat)
> >> Age: 4.5 yr
> >> Current vaccination for Feline Leukemia, but *was never tested* before
> >> vaccination.
> >> Peaches was never tested for Feline Leukemia, she was given 1st & 2nd
> >> feline
> >> leukemia in 2009.
> >> She also had a vaccination in 2010
> >>
> >> I have 3 other cats:
> >> All cats will stay indoors!
> >>
> >> *Nibbles *(got from shelter when 1 yr. old)
> >> Age: 2.5
> >> Nibbles had 1st Feline Leukemia shot 3/23/11, but not 2nd Feline
> Leukemia
>
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Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question

2011-08-04 Thread molveywda
I think I would definitely get Peaches tested.  If all your cats are indoors 
only they really don't need to be vaccinated against FeLV.  Only if there's a 
chance they could get it.  But if you're not letting them out and you're not 
fostering other cats  then there's no risk of exposure to the virus so no real 
need for a vaccination.  If all your other cats have been tested and are 
negative also then Peaches wouldn't need the vaccination either.  So as long as 
her combo test is negative, then you really don't need to worry about Nibbles.  
It's totally up to you though.  Just my thoughts. Course if Peaches' test is 
positive definitely get Nibbles up to speed.  And I think he does need to do 
the series of two shots over again if you decide to get him current like Lynda 
said.

Thanks for giving Peaches a home.  And kick that other lady in the butt for 
kicking Peaches out of the house just because she had a baby.

Maureen

sent from my AT&T Smartphone by HTC

- Reply message -
From: "Martha Walton" 
Date: Thu, Aug 4, 2011 11:52 am
Subject: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
To: 

The family that owned Peaches found her abandoned outside a vacant
apartment.  Their neighbor moved out, but left the cat.  They took Peaches
to the vet to discover that Peaches already was spayed.  I don't know why
the Vet gave her Feline Leukemia vaccinations without testing her first.
They kept Peaches for almost 2 years and properly vetted her, wife had a
baby and they didn't want Peaches anymore.  That's how Peaches came to live
here.

I am going to take her to the Vet to have her tested and will go ahead and
give Nibbles vaccinations.
I'll let you know what the vet says.
Thanks for all your help!!  It has been hard to get information about what
to do.

On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Lynda Wilson wrote:

> Martha, you will have to start over on Nibbles. Once you get the first
> shot, you have to get the second within 3 weeks of the first for it to be
> effective.
>
> It would be wise to have Peaches tested. Getting her the vaccination
> against FeLV will not show a positive test like the FIV would.  I would keep
> her separate from the others of course, until her worms are gone and she has
> had two FeLV tests that have the same result. Glad all the others are all
> current! Your a good momma to be cautious.
>
> I hope this helps, we all try to share our experiences and knowledge on
> this forum, but we are not experts :)
>
> Keep us posted.
>
> Thanks,
> L
> - Original Message - From: "Martha Walton"  >
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 2:17 PM
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
>
>
>  We have a new addition (Peaches) to my household, making a total of 4
>> cats.
>> Need advice on Feline Leukemia Vaccinations.
>>
>> I have not introduced new cat (Peaches) to my other cats, as I want to
>> make
>> sure all are safe against feline leukemia. Peaches is up to date with all
>> shots, but waiting on vet to do fecal because I saw a tapeworm.
>> Peaches is sequestered to basement. Very comfy down there.
>>
>> Here's the situation:
>>
>> *Peaches* (New Cat)
>> Age: 4.5 yr
>> Current vaccination for Feline Leukemia, but *was never tested* before
>> vaccination.
>> Peaches was never tested for Feline Leukemia, she was given 1st & 2nd
>> feline
>> leukemia in 2009.
>> She also had a vaccination in 2010
>>
>> I have 3 other cats:
>> All cats will stay indoors!
>>
>> *Nibbles *(got from shelter when 1 yr. old)
>> Age: 2.5
>> Nibbles had 1st Feline Leukemia shot 3/23/11, but not 2nd Feline Leukemia

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Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question

2011-08-04 Thread Natalie
I hate people (except us)do you know how cowardly and cruel people are?
They bring their cats/dogs to surrender at a shelter and claim that they are
strays...a 14-yr old cat was just brought to a NY shelter, healthy but with
a slight sniffle - how can anyone do that?  What kind of horrible race are
we?  Baby comes, cat or dog get tossed out; a dog comes, the cat is
abandoned...it's a throw-away-society!

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Martha Walton
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 11:53 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question

The family that owned Peaches found her abandoned outside a vacant
apartment.  Their neighbor moved out, but left the cat.  They took Peaches
to the vet to discover that Peaches already was spayed.  I don't know why
the Vet gave her Feline Leukemia vaccinations without testing her first.
They kept Peaches for almost 2 years and properly vetted her, wife had a
baby and they didn't want Peaches anymore.  That's how Peaches came to live
here.

I am going to take her to the Vet to have her tested and will go ahead and
give Nibbles vaccinations.
I'll let you know what the vet says.
Thanks for all your help!!  It has been hard to get information about what
to do.

On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Lynda Wilson
wrote:

> Martha, you will have to start over on Nibbles. Once you get the first
> shot, you have to get the second within 3 weeks of the first for it to be
> effective.
>
> It would be wise to have Peaches tested. Getting her the vaccination
> against FeLV will not show a positive test like the FIV would.  I would
keep
> her separate from the others of course, until her worms are gone and she
has
> had two FeLV tests that have the same result. Glad all the others are all
> current! Your a good momma to be cautious.
>
> I hope this helps, we all try to share our experiences and knowledge on
> this forum, but we are not experts :)
>
> Keep us posted.
>
> Thanks,
> L
> - Original Message - From: "Martha Walton"  >
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 2:17 PM
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
>
>
>  We have a new addition (Peaches) to my household, making a total of 4
>> cats.
>> Need advice on Feline Leukemia Vaccinations.
>>
>> I have not introduced new cat (Peaches) to my other cats, as I want to
>> make
>> sure all are safe against feline leukemia. Peaches is up to date with all
>> shots, but waiting on vet to do fecal because I saw a tapeworm.
>> Peaches is sequestered to basement. Very comfy down there.
>>
>> Here's the situation:
>>
>> *Peaches* (New Cat)
>> Age: 4.5 yr
>> Current vaccination for Feline Leukemia, but *was never tested* before
>> vaccination.
>> Peaches was never tested for Feline Leukemia, she was given 1st & 2nd
>> feline
>> leukemia in 2009.
>> She also had a vaccination in 2010
>>
>> I have 3 other cats:
>> All cats will stay indoors!
>>
>> *Nibbles *(got from shelter when 1 yr. old)
>> Age: 2.5
>> Nibbles had 1st Feline Leukemia shot 3/23/11, but not 2nd Feline Leukemia
>> shot.
>> Didn't get 2nd: worrying about tumors & didn't think that I would
"rescue"
>> a
>> cat again and planning on keeping all cats indoors.
>> *However, I rescued another cat.*
>> Should I go ahead and give Nibbles her second shot of the series, or is
it
>> too late??
>>
>> *Littlebit*
>> Age: 11
>> Current Feline Leukemia vacc
>>
>> *Lacy*
>> Age: 6 months
>> Current Feline Leukemia vacc
>>
>> What do you think I should do???
>> Should I go ahead and give Nibbles her second shot of the series, or is
it
>> too late??
>> Should I get Peaches tested for Feline Leukemia??
>>
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Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question

2011-08-04 Thread Martha Walton
The family that owned Peaches found her abandoned outside a vacant
apartment.  Their neighbor moved out, but left the cat.  They took Peaches
to the vet to discover that Peaches already was spayed.  I don't know why
the Vet gave her Feline Leukemia vaccinations without testing her first.
They kept Peaches for almost 2 years and properly vetted her, wife had a
baby and they didn't want Peaches anymore.  That's how Peaches came to live
here.

I am going to take her to the Vet to have her tested and will go ahead and
give Nibbles vaccinations.
I'll let you know what the vet says.
Thanks for all your help!!  It has been hard to get information about what
to do.

On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Lynda Wilson wrote:

> Martha, you will have to start over on Nibbles. Once you get the first
> shot, you have to get the second within 3 weeks of the first for it to be
> effective.
>
> It would be wise to have Peaches tested. Getting her the vaccination
> against FeLV will not show a positive test like the FIV would.  I would keep
> her separate from the others of course, until her worms are gone and she has
> had two FeLV tests that have the same result. Glad all the others are all
> current! Your a good momma to be cautious.
>
> I hope this helps, we all try to share our experiences and knowledge on
> this forum, but we are not experts :)
>
> Keep us posted.
>
> Thanks,
> L
> - Original Message - From: "Martha Walton"  >
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 2:17 PM
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question
>
>
>  We have a new addition (Peaches) to my household, making a total of 4
>> cats.
>> Need advice on Feline Leukemia Vaccinations.
>>
>> I have not introduced new cat (Peaches) to my other cats, as I want to
>> make
>> sure all are safe against feline leukemia. Peaches is up to date with all
>> shots, but waiting on vet to do fecal because I saw a tapeworm.
>> Peaches is sequestered to basement. Very comfy down there.
>>
>> Here's the situation:
>>
>> *Peaches* (New Cat)
>> Age: 4.5 yr
>> Current vaccination for Feline Leukemia, but *was never tested* before
>> vaccination.
>> Peaches was never tested for Feline Leukemia, she was given 1st & 2nd
>> feline
>> leukemia in 2009.
>> She also had a vaccination in 2010
>>
>> I have 3 other cats:
>> All cats will stay indoors!
>>
>> *Nibbles *(got from shelter when 1 yr. old)
>> Age: 2.5
>> Nibbles had 1st Feline Leukemia shot 3/23/11, but not 2nd Feline Leukemia
>> shot.
>> Didn't get 2nd: worrying about tumors & didn't think that I would "rescue"
>> a
>> cat again and planning on keeping all cats indoors.
>> *However, I rescued another cat.*
>> Should I go ahead and give Nibbles her second shot of the series, or is it
>> too late??
>>
>> *Littlebit*
>> Age: 11
>> Current Feline Leukemia vacc
>>
>> *Lacy*
>> Age: 6 months
>> Current Feline Leukemia vacc
>>
>> What do you think I should do???
>> Should I go ahead and give Nibbles her second shot of the series, or is it
>> too late??
>> Should I get Peaches tested for Feline Leukemia??
>>
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Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question

2011-08-03 Thread Beth
I'm guessing all your other cats have been tested for FeLV? I can't imagine any 
vet or shelter vaccinating for FeLV without testing first. Peaches should 
definitely be tested before letting her near the other cats. If they are all 
negative & never go outside I wouldn't vaccinate them for FeLV. Just be 
vigilant about bringing any new cats in.

Beth

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From: Martha Walton 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2011 3:17 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question

We have a new addition (Peaches) to my household, making a total of 4 cats.
Need advice on Feline Leukemia Vaccinations.

I have not introduced new cat (Peaches) to my other cats, as I want to make
sure all are safe against feline leukemia. Peaches is up to date with all
shots, but waiting on vet to do fecal because I saw a tapeworm.
Peaches is sequestered to basement. Very comfy down there.

Here's the situation:

*Peaches* (New Cat)
Age: 4.5 yr
Current vaccination for Feline Leukemia, but *was never tested* before
vaccination.
Peaches was never tested for Feline Leukemia, she was given 1st & 2nd feline
leukemia in 2009.
She also had a vaccination in 2010

I have 3 other cats:
All cats will stay indoors!

*Nibbles *(got from shelter when 1 yr. old)
Age: 2.5
Nibbles had 1st Feline Leukemia shot 3/23/11, but not 2nd Feline Leukemia
shot.
Didn't get 2nd: worrying about tumors & didn't think that I would "rescue" a
cat again and planning on keeping all cats indoors.
*However, I rescued another cat.*
Should I go ahead and give Nibbles her second shot of the series, or is it
too late??

*Littlebit*
Age: 11
Current Feline Leukemia vacc

*Lacy*
Age: 6 months
Current Feline Leukemia vacc

What do you think I should do???
Should I go ahead and give Nibbles her second shot of the series, or is it
too late??
Should I get Peaches tested for Feline Leukemia??

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Re: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question

2011-08-03 Thread Lynda Wilson
Martha, you will have to start over on Nibbles. Once you get the first shot, 
you have to get the second within 3 weeks of the first for it to be 
effective.


It would be wise to have Peaches tested. Getting her the vaccination against 
FeLV will not show a positive test like the FIV would.  I would keep her 
separate from the others of course, until her worms are gone and she has had 
two FeLV tests that have the same result. Glad all the others are all 
current! Your a good momma to be cautious.


I hope this helps, we all try to share our experiences and knowledge on this 
forum, but we are not experts :)


Keep us posted.

Thanks,
L
- Original Message - 
From: "Martha Walton" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 2:17 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question


We have a new addition (Peaches) to my household, making a total of 4 
cats.

Need advice on Feline Leukemia Vaccinations.

I have not introduced new cat (Peaches) to my other cats, as I want to 
make

sure all are safe against feline leukemia. Peaches is up to date with all
shots, but waiting on vet to do fecal because I saw a tapeworm.
Peaches is sequestered to basement. Very comfy down there.

Here's the situation:

*Peaches* (New Cat)
Age: 4.5 yr
Current vaccination for Feline Leukemia, but *was never tested* before
vaccination.
Peaches was never tested for Feline Leukemia, she was given 1st & 2nd 
feline

leukemia in 2009.
She also had a vaccination in 2010

I have 3 other cats:
All cats will stay indoors!

*Nibbles *(got from shelter when 1 yr. old)
Age: 2.5
Nibbles had 1st Feline Leukemia shot 3/23/11, but not 2nd Feline Leukemia
shot.
Didn't get 2nd: worrying about tumors & didn't think that I would "rescue" 
a

cat again and planning on keeping all cats indoors.
*However, I rescued another cat.*
Should I go ahead and give Nibbles her second shot of the series, or is it
too late??

*Littlebit*
Age: 11
Current Feline Leukemia vacc

*Lacy*
Age: 6 months
Current Feline Leukemia vacc

What do you think I should do???
Should I go ahead and give Nibbles her second shot of the series, or is it
too late??
Should I get Peaches tested for Feline Leukemia??

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[Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia Question

2011-08-03 Thread Martha Walton
We have a new addition (Peaches) to my household, making a total of 4 cats.
Need advice on Feline Leukemia Vaccinations.

I have not introduced new cat (Peaches) to my other cats, as I want to make
sure all are safe against feline leukemia. Peaches is up to date with all
shots, but waiting on vet to do fecal because I saw a tapeworm.
Peaches is sequestered to basement. Very comfy down there.

Here's the situation:

*Peaches* (New Cat)
Age: 4.5 yr
Current vaccination for Feline Leukemia, but *was never tested* before
vaccination.
Peaches was never tested for Feline Leukemia, she was given 1st & 2nd feline
leukemia in 2009.
She also had a vaccination in 2010

I have 3 other cats:
All cats will stay indoors!

*Nibbles *(got from shelter when 1 yr. old)
Age: 2.5
Nibbles had 1st Feline Leukemia shot 3/23/11, but not 2nd Feline Leukemia
shot.
Didn't get 2nd: worrying about tumors & didn't think that I would "rescue" a
cat again and planning on keeping all cats indoors.
*However, I rescued another cat.*
Should I go ahead and give Nibbles her second shot of the series, or is it
too late??

*Littlebit*
Age: 11
Current Feline Leukemia vacc

*Lacy*
Age: 6 months
Current Feline Leukemia vacc

What do you think I should do???
Should I go ahead and give Nibbles her second shot of the series, or is it
too late??
Should I get Peaches tested for Feline Leukemia??

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Re: [Felvtalk] feline leukemia virus outdoors

2009-09-05 Thread Gloria B. Lane

I would agree - certainly it's safe. It's gone by now.

Gloria



On Sep 5, 2009, at 5:24 PM, TANYA NOE wrote:


Cindy,
The FELV virus is not hardy and cannot survive long outside the  
body. There is still debate over whether it lasts for hours or days  
on dry surfaces (though most will say hours), and obviously it will  
last a bit longer on a wet surface. I personally would think that 2  
weeks is more than enough time for the virus to have cleared your  
yard. Any cat going outdoors should be vaccinated against feline  
leukemia which you have done so I think you would be fine.

Hope this help!
Tanya

--- On Fri, 9/4/09, Cindy Jackson  wrote:


From: Cindy Jackson 
Subject: [Felvtalk] feline leukemia virus outdoors
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 5:32 PM
How long can the feline leukemia
virus live outdoors?

Is it safe for a healthy cat, up to date on her vaccines,
including the felv vaccine, to roam and play in the same
place a felv positive cat used to play, roam, pee and poop?

The positive cat use to play, roam, pee and poop in my back
yard (grass). This was happening less than two or three
weeks ago. She is now with a best friend who adopted her
from me.
She was an indoor cat but I allowed her to be outdoors,
only in my back yard, she didn't go anywhere else, once a
day (each day). My back yard is filled with flowers, grass
and tall plants. She loved my back yard.

I want to let the new cat I got, who is healthy, be
outdoors too. She will be an indoor cat but I want her to
get fresh air once in a while. Specially now during the
summer. My house gets really hot and humid. I don't have AC.


Is it safe?




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Re: [Felvtalk] feline leukemia virus outdoors

2009-09-05 Thread TANYA NOE
Cindy,
The FELV virus is not hardy and cannot survive long outside the body. There is 
still debate over whether it lasts for hours or days on dry surfaces (though 
most will say hours), and obviously it will last a bit longer on a wet surface. 
I personally would think that 2 weeks is more than enough time for the virus to 
have cleared your yard. Any cat going outdoors should be vaccinated against 
feline leukemia which you have done so I think you would be fine. 
Hope this help!
Tanya

--- On Fri, 9/4/09, Cindy Jackson  wrote:

> From: Cindy Jackson 
> Subject: [Felvtalk] feline leukemia virus outdoors
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 5:32 PM
> How long can the feline leukemia
> virus live outdoors?
> 
> Is it safe for a healthy cat, up to date on her vaccines,
> including the felv vaccine, to roam and play in the same
> place a felv positive cat used to play, roam, pee and poop?
> 
> The positive cat use to play, roam, pee and poop in my back
> yard (grass). This was happening less than two or three
> weeks ago. She is now with a best friend who adopted her
> from me.
> She was an indoor cat but I allowed her to be outdoors,
> only in my back yard, she didn't go anywhere else, once a
> day (each day). My back yard is filled with flowers, grass
> and tall plants. She loved my back yard.
> 
> I want to let the new cat I got, who is healthy, be
> outdoors too. She will be an indoor cat but I want her to
> get fresh air once in a while. Specially now during the
> summer. My house gets really hot and humid. I don't have AC.
> 
> 
> Is it safe? 
> 
> 
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[Felvtalk] feline leukemia virus outdoors

2009-09-04 Thread Cindy Jackson
How long can the feline leukemia virus live outdoors?

Is it safe for a healthy cat, up to date on her vaccines, including the felv 
vaccine, to roam and play in the same place a felv positive cat used to play, 
roam, pee and poop?

The positive cat use to play, roam, pee and poop in my back yard (grass). This 
was happening less than two or three weeks ago. She is now with a best friend 
who adopted her from me.
She was an indoor cat but I allowed her to be outdoors, only in my back yard, 
she didn't go anywhere else, once a day (each day). My back yard is filled with 
flowers, grass and tall plants. She loved my back yard.

I want to let the new cat I got, who is healthy, be outdoors too. She will be 
an indoor cat but I want her to get fresh air once in a while. Specially now 
during the summer. My house gets really hot and humid. I don't have AC. 

Is it safe? 


  

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