Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing & Fostering (Beth)
WHEN YOU WERE THERE, COULD YOU STAY AT THE CAT HOUSES OR DID YOU STAY AT A NEARBY MOTEL? IT WOULD BE GREAT IF I COULD RETIRE THERE WITH MY BABIES AND BE WITH THEM TO THE END. I WOULD NOT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH CHANGING BOXES, ETC. Sharyl wrote: > Sounds just like the shelter I have selected - C&W Rustic Hollow. I've > visited it in the summer and winter. A great place. Sharyl From: "dlg...@windstream.net" To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 4:15 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing & Fostering (Beth) The shelter I have selected does not keep them in cages, they have the run of 1. an old farmhouse complete with an outdoor enclosure they can go in and out at will. 2. They have built a new house and outdoor enclosure. They have furniture to sit and lie on and shelves on the walls. My cats will be old by the time I pass and not many people want to adopt old cats. I am sure they will be content to lay on a bed or the back of a chair in a sunny window. I have only one concern, how will they adapt to the cats already there. But if they follow the normal rules for introducing new cats to the household, I think there will be no problem. Lorrie wrote: > We always need to prepare for the time when we will no longer be > able to have our cats because of our illness or death, but I would > be concerned about your cats in a no kill shelter. Would they be > spending their remaining years in cages?? > > On 04-24, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: > > > You may have to do like the no kill shelters all do, ask an amount to take > > care of their food and medical bills for the rest of their life. I have a > > shelter picked out and have provided in my will for their care. They have > > a formula worked out, number of years expected for them to live x set > > amount of money. It is really not asking all that much considering you > > are asking them to give the cats the same care you have given them for the > > remainder of their lives. I have had my babies too long to leave their > > future up in the air. > > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing & Fostering (Beth)
THAT IS IT! GLAD TO HEAR SOMEONE ELSE LIKES IT. Sharyl wrote: > Sounds just like the shelter I have selected - C&W Rustic Hollow. I've > visited it in the summer and winter. A great place. Sharyl From: "dlg...@windstream.net" To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 4:15 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing & Fostering (Beth) The shelter I have selected does not keep them in cages, they have the run of 1. an old farmhouse complete with an outdoor enclosure they can go in and out at will. 2. They have built a new house and outdoor enclosure. They have furniture to sit and lie on and shelves on the walls. My cats will be old by the time I pass and not many people want to adopt old cats. I am sure they will be content to lay on a bed or the back of a chair in a sunny window. I have only one concern, how will they adapt to the cats already there. But if they follow the normal rules for introducing new cats to the household, I think there will be no problem. > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing & Fostering (Beth)
Sounds just like the shelter I have selected - C&W Rustic Hollow. I've visited it in the summer and winter. A great place. Sharyl From: "dlg...@windstream.net" To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 4:15 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing & Fostering (Beth) The shelter I have selected does not keep them in cages, they have the run of 1. an old farmhouse complete with an outdoor enclosure they can go in and out at will. 2. They have built a new house and outdoor enclosure. They have furniture to sit and lie on and shelves on the walls. My cats will be old by the time I pass and not many people want to adopt old cats. I am sure they will be content to lay on a bed or the back of a chair in a sunny window. I have only one concern, how will they adapt to the cats already there. But if they follow the normal rules for introducing new cats to the household, I think there will be no problem. > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing & Fostering (Beth)
Sounds just like the shelter I have selected - C&W Rustic Hollow. I've visited it in the summer and winter. A great place. Sharyl From: "dlg...@windstream.net" To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 4:15 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing & Fostering (Beth) The shelter I have selected does not keep them in cages, they have the run of 1. an old farmhouse complete with an outdoor enclosure they can go in and out at will. 2. They have built a new house and outdoor enclosure. They have furniture to sit and lie on and shelves on the walls. My cats will be old by the time I pass and not many people want to adopt old cats. I am sure they will be content to lay on a bed or the back of a chair in a sunny window. I have only one concern, how will they adapt to the cats already there. But if they follow the normal rules for introducing new cats to the household, I think there will be no problem. Lorrie wrote: > We always need to prepare for the time when we will no longer be > able to have our cats because of our illness or death, but I would > be concerned about your cats in a no kill shelter. Would they be > spending their remaining years in cages?? > > On 04-24, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: > > > You may have to do like the no kill shelters all do, ask an amount to take > > care of their food and medical bills for the rest of their life. I have a > > shelter picked out and have provided in my will for their care. They have > > a formula worked out, number of years expected for them to live x set > > amount of money. It is really not asking all that much considering you > > are asking them to give the cats the same care you have given them for the > > remainder of their lives. I have had my babies too long to leave their > > future up in the air. > > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing & Fostering
Lee, It's very encouraging that you've had three adults with FelV throw off the virus. I've never been that fortunate, and having these FelV cats and kittens with a death sentence is absolutely devastating to me. I am the same as you said you were much too emotional. As I may have written previously, the only "miracle" I had was with a litter of 6 kittens who were all FelV pos. except for one. I still have Weegie (4 years old now, and he's been retested twice and never got the virus, while all his siblings died years ago. Lorrie On 04-23, Lee Evans wrote: >I had three FeLv+ cats throw it off. They all three were adults. Bunny >was the youngest. She tested positive when she was spayed at a shelter. >They would usually euthanize them but for some reason she slipped >through the cracks, I am pleased to say and the rescuer brought her to >me knowing that I would keep her or find a place for her if she did not >turn. But she turned. Right now she's annoying two other cats in my >computer room. She sleeps with me at night, and is a joyous cat. I >would like to find her another home though because I just have too many >and can't give her enough attention. My oldest cat, Moses threw it off >i about 7 years ago. Percy had both FeLv and FIV. He threw off the FeLv >and is now in my FIV room. I have a 5 months old FeLv+ kitten in foster >care trying to turn negative. I hope she does. Taco and Smooch, two >other FeLv+ cats who were brought to me as strays and tested positive >passed away in two years. But at least they had those two years extra >and weren't deprived of their short lives. I have chosen the wrong >calling though. I'm much too emotional to be able to cope with this. >Unfortunately I have no choice. I live from one emotional disaster to >another these days because my feline family is approaching the older >years. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing & Fostering (Beth)
The shelter I have selected does not keep them in cages, they have the run of 1. an old farmhouse complete with an outdoor enclosure they can go in and out at will. 2. They have built a new house and outdoor enclosure. They have furniture to sit and lie on and shelves on the walls. My cats will be old by the time I pass and not many people want to adopt old cats. I am sure they will be content to lay on a bed or the back of a chair in a sunny window. I have only one concern, how will they adapt to the cats already there. But if they follow the normal rules for introducing new cats to the household, I think there will be no problem. Lorrie wrote: > We always need to prepare for the time when we will no longer be > able to have our cats because of our illness or death, but I would > be concerned about your cats in a no kill shelter. Would they be > spending their remaining years in cages?? > > On 04-24, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: > > > You may have to do like the no kill shelters all do, ask an amount to take > > care of their food and medical bills for the rest of their life. I have a > > shelter picked out and have provided in my will for their care. They have > > a formula worked out, number of years expected for them to live x set > > amount of money. It is really not asking all that much considering you > > are asking them to give the cats the same care you have given them for the > > remainder of their lives. I have had my babies too long to leave their > > future up in the air. > > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing & Fostering (Beth)
One actually did get adopted last year, but mostly they just stay with me until they pass away. Beth Lorrie wrote: >What becomes of these FelV cats you foster? Do you do like I do and >just keep them until they die or have to be euthanized? I lost three >FelV kittens in 2 months and it was heartbreaking. Now the last of this >litter just turned one year old and she seems fine, but I watch her >every day and never know how long I'll have her. I have several others >who were exposed or actively have the virus, but they are still doing >fine, but I look at them every day and wonder how long I'll have them. > >Lorrie > >On 04-23, Beth wrote: >>No, I have never seen one throw the virus off. >>I think fostering the FeLV cats is probably easier than fostering >>healthy cats, actually. I have done that plenty of times, too. At least >>I don't have to deal with constantly getting attached to cats only to >>have them adopted out & I don't have to deal with kittens, which can be >>so much work. >>Beth > > >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing & Fostering (Beth)
What becomes of these FelV cats you foster? Do you do like I do and just keep them until they die or have to be euthanized? I lost three FelV kittens in 2 months and it was heartbreaking. Now the last of this litter just turned one year old and she seems fine, but I watch her every day and never know how long I'll have her. I have several others who were exposed or actively have the virus, but they are still doing fine, but I look at them every day and wonder how long I'll have them. Lorrie On 04-23, Beth wrote: >No, I have never seen one throw the virus off. >I think fostering the FeLV cats is probably easier than fostering >healthy cats, actually. I have done that plenty of times, too. At least >I don't have to deal with constantly getting attached to cats only to >have them adopted out & I don't have to deal with kittens, which can be >so much work. >Beth ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing & Fostering (Beth)
We always need to prepare for the time when we will no longer be able to have our cats because of our illness or death, but I would be concerned about your cats in a no kill shelter. Would they be spending their remaining years in cages?? On 04-24, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: > You may have to do like the no kill shelters all do, ask an amount to take > care of their food and medical bills for the rest of their life. I have a > shelter picked out and have provided in my will for their care. They have > a formula worked out, number of years expected for them to live x set > amount of money. It is really not asking all that much considering you > are asking them to give the cats the same care you have given them for the > remainder of their lives. I have had my babies too long to leave their > future up in the air. > > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing & Fostering (Beth)
You may have to do like the no kill shelters all do, ask an amount to take care of their food and medical bills for the rest of their life. I have a shelter picked out and have provided in my will for their care. They have a formula worked out, number of years expected for them to live x set amount of money. It is really not asking all that much considering you are asking them to give the cats the same care you have given them for the remainder of their lives. I have had my babies too long to leave their future up in the air. Beth wrote: > I only have 3 cats of my own left. 2 are quite old & 1 is FeLV positive. I do not take in more FeLV fosters unless one passes away. I do not take FeLV cats from individuals unless they agree that it is still their cat, just living at my house. I will not be responsible for vet bills or food expenses. It is tough turning people down, but I have to have a sane life & do not want to get overwhelmed. I prefer to educate people that they can mix their cats & keep the FeLV's. That being said, I recently agreed to take an FeLV from a lady who volunteers at our shelter & who I have known for years. The cat no more than got to my house & it is clear he has medical issues & she is not returning my calls or emails. This may mark the end of me taking in any FeLV's from individuals, period. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: Lee Evans To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 11:13 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing & Fostering (Beth) I had three FeLv+ cats throw it off. They all three were adults. Bunny was the youngest. She tested positive when she was spayed at a shelter. They would usually euthanize them but for some reason she slipped through the cracks, I am pleased to say and the rescuer brought her to me knowing that I would keep her or find a place for her if she did not turn. But she turned. Right now she's annoying two other cats in my computer room. She sleeps with me at night, and is a joyous cat. I would like to find her another home though because I just have too many and can't give her enough attention. My oldest cat, Moses threw it off i about 7 years ago. Percy had both FeLv and FIV. He threw off the FeLv and is now in my FIV room. I have a 5 months old FeLv+ kitten in foster care trying to turn negative. I hope she does. Taco and Smooch, two other FeLv+ cats who were brought to me as strays and tested positive passed away in two years. But at least they had those > two years extra and weren't deprived of their short lives. I have chosen the > wrong calling though. I'm much too emotional to be able to cope with this. > Unfortunately I have no choice. I live from one emotional disaster to another > these days because my feline family is approaching the older years. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! > > From: Beth >To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" >Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 6:07 PM >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing & Fostering (Beth) > > > >No, I have never seen one throw the virus off. >I think fostering the FeLV cats is probably easier than fostering healthy >cats, actually. I have done that plenty of times, too. At least I don't have >to deal with constantly getting attached to cats only to have them adopted out >& I don't have to deal with kittens, which can be so much work. > > > >Beth > > >Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org > > > > > > From: Lorrie >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 4:54 PM >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing & Fostering (Beth) > > >Beth I didn't know you fostered FelV cats. Have you had any who eventually >threw off the virus? All of the kittens I've taken in as FelV positive, who >must have acquired the virus from their mother, have died within two years. >However, from one litter of FelV kittens I have an male who is now 4 years >old, and he was the only one in his litter who did NOT test positive when I >took them in, and I later tested him and he was still negative. > >I really admire you for fostering FelV cats. It can be heartbreaking >when they become sick and die. I've had three PTS since October. They >would have been a year old in May. One from this same litter is still >fine, or seems to be. I will retest her soon. > >Lorrie > >On 04-23, Beth wrote: >> Chris - >> I would search the archives on "mixing". A lot of us mix our positive & >> non-positive, vaccinated cats. I have done it for over 10 years with
Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing & Fostering (Beth)
Been there, done that. Most of the FeLv cats I have taken were from a rescuer who has overwhelmed me in the past. I am no longer allowing her to do that. Anyway, there is no more room at the inn. I have two cats in my separation rooms, one recovering from a blinding eye infection and upper resp. and the other who has bone cancer, tumor on leg but is doing OK so far. The partially blind cat is one of my own outdoor old biddies. The cancer cat is from a colony I used to feed but gave back to the overwhelming rescuer when I moved out of the city. I felt obligated to this cat so took her and am giving her whatever life she has left. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! > > From: Beth >To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" >Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 7:21 AM >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing & Fostering (Beth) > > > >I only have 3 cats of my own left. 2 are quite old & 1 is FeLV positive. >I do not take in more FeLV fosters unless one passes away. >I do not take FeLV cats from individuals unless they agree that it is still >their cat, just living at my house. I will not be responsible for vet bills or >food expenses. It is tough turning people down, but I have to have a sane life >& do not want to get overwhelmed. I prefer to educate people that they can mix >their cats & keep the FeLV's. >That being said, I recently agreed to take an FeLV from a lady who volunteers >at our shelter & who I have known for years. The cat no more than got to my >house & it is clear he has medical issues & she is not returning my calls or >emails. This may mark the end of me taking in any FeLV's from individuals, period. > > > > Beth >Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org > > > > >________ > From: Lee Evans >To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" >Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 11:13 PM >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing & Fostering (Beth) > > > >I had three FeLv+ cats throw it off. They all three were adults. Bunny was the >youngest. She tested positive when she was spayed at a shelter. They would >usually euthanize them but for some reason she slipped through the cracks, I >am pleased to say and the rescuer brought her to me knowing that I would keep >her or find a place for her if she did not turn. But she turned. Right now >she's annoying two other cats in my computer room. She sleeps with me at >night, and is a joyous cat. I would like to find her another home though >because I just have too many and can't give her enough attention. My oldest >cat, Moses threw it off i about 7 years ago. Percy had both FeLv and FIV. He >threw off the FeLv and is now in my FIV room. I have a 5 months old FeLv+ >kitten in foster care trying to turn negative. I hope she does. Taco and >Smooch, two other FeLv+ cats who were brought to me as strays and tested >positive passed away in two years. But at least they had those two years extra and weren't deprived of their short lives. I have chosen the wrong calling though. I'm much too emotional to be able to cope with this. Unfortunately I have no choice. I live from one emotional disaster to another these days because my feline family is approaching the older years. > > > > >Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty >neighbors too! > > > > > >> >> From: Beth >>To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" >>Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 6:07 PM >>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing & Fostering (Beth) >> >> >> >>No, I have never seen one throw the virus off. >>I think fostering the FeLV cats is probably easier than fostering healthy >>cats, actually. I have done that plenty of times, too. At least I don't have >>to deal with constantly getting attached to cats only to have them adopted >>out & I don't have to deal with kittens, which can be so much work. >> >> >> >>Beth >> >> >>Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org >> >> >> >> >> >> From: Lorrie >>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 4:54 PM >>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing & Fostering (Beth) >> >> >>Beth I didn't know you fostered FelV cats. Have you had any who eventually >>threw off the virus? All of the kittens I've taken in as FelV positive, who >>must have acquired the virus from their mother, have died within two years. >>However, from one litter o
Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing & Fostering (Beth)
I only have 3 cats of my own left. 2 are quite old & 1 is FeLV positive. I do not take in more FeLV fosters unless one passes away. I do not take FeLV cats from individuals unless they agree that it is still their cat, just living at my house. I will not be responsible for vet bills or food expenses. It is tough turning people down, but I have to have a sane life & do not want to get overwhelmed. I prefer to educate people that they can mix their cats & keep the FeLV's. That being said, I recently agreed to take an FeLV from a lady who volunteers at our shelter & who I have known for years. The cat no more than got to my house & it is clear he has medical issues & she is not returning my calls or emails. This may mark the end of me taking in any FeLV's from individuals, period. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: Lee Evans To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 11:13 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing & Fostering (Beth) I had three FeLv+ cats throw it off. They all three were adults. Bunny was the youngest. She tested positive when she was spayed at a shelter. They would usually euthanize them but for some reason she slipped through the cracks, I am pleased to say and the rescuer brought her to me knowing that I would keep her or find a place for her if she did not turn. But she turned. Right now she's annoying two other cats in my computer room. She sleeps with me at night, and is a joyous cat. I would like to find her another home though because I just have too many and can't give her enough attention. My oldest cat, Moses threw it off i about 7 years ago. Percy had both FeLv and FIV. He threw off the FeLv and is now in my FIV room. I have a 5 months old FeLv+ kitten in foster care trying to turn negative. I hope she does. Taco and Smooch, two other FeLv+ cats who were brought to me as strays and tested positive passed away in two years. But at least they had those two years extra and weren't deprived of their short lives. I have chosen the wrong calling though. I'm much too emotional to be able to cope with this. Unfortunately I have no choice. I live from one emotional disaster to another these days because my feline family is approaching the older years. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! > > From: Beth >To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" >Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 6:07 PM >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing & Fostering (Beth) > > > >No, I have never seen one throw the virus off. >I think fostering the FeLV cats is probably easier than fostering healthy >cats, actually. I have done that plenty of times, too. At least I don't have >to deal with constantly getting attached to cats only to have them adopted out >& I don't have to deal with kittens, which can be so much work. > > > >Beth > > >Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org > > > > > > From: Lorrie >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 4:54 PM >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing & Fostering (Beth) > > >Beth I didn't know you fostered FelV cats. Have you had any who eventually >threw off the virus? All of the kittens I've taken in as FelV positive, who >must have acquired the virus from their mother, have died within two years. >However, from one litter of FelV kittens I have an male who is now 4 years >old, and he was the only one in his litter who did NOT test positive when I >took them in, and I later tested him and he was still negative. > >I really admire you for fostering FelV cats. It can be heartbreaking >when they become sick and die. I've had three PTS since October. They >would have been a year old in May. One from this same litter is still >fine, or seems to be. I will retest her soon. > >Lorrie > >On 04-23, Beth wrote: >> Chris - >> I would search the archives on "mixing". A lot of us mix our positive & >> non-positive, vaccinated cats. I have done it for over 10 years with no >> transmission of the virus to my healthy cats. I even have had FIV cats >> mix with the FeLV cats with no problems. And, yes, I do retest my >> negatives. >> It becomes a little difficult when you foster healthy cats for a >> shelter. I only foster FeLV cats these days. The shelter would not >> allow me to foster both positives & negative, even if they were >> separated. >> Beth > >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
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I had three FeLv+ cats throw it off. They all three were adults. Bunny was the youngest. She tested positive when she was spayed at a shelter. They would usually euthanize them but for some reason she slipped through the cracks, I am pleased to say and the rescuer brought her to me knowing that I would keep her or find a place for her if she did not turn. But she turned. Right now she's annoying two other cats in my computer room. She sleeps with me at night, and is a joyous cat. I would like to find her another home though because I just have too many and can't give her enough attention. My oldest cat, Moses threw it off i about 7 years ago. Percy had both FeLv and FIV. He threw off the FeLv and is now in my FIV room. I have a 5 months old FeLv+ kitten in foster care trying to turn negative. I hope she does. Taco and Smooch, two other FeLv+ cats who were brought to me as strays and tested positive passed away in two years. But at least they had those two years extra and weren't deprived of their short lives. I have chosen the wrong calling though. I'm much too emotional to be able to cope with this. Unfortunately I have no choice. I live from one emotional disaster to another these days because my feline family is approaching the older years. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! > > From: Beth >To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" >Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 6:07 PM >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing & Fostering (Beth) > > > >No, I have never seen one throw the virus off. >I think fostering the FeLV cats is probably easier than fostering healthy >cats, actually. I have done that plenty of times, too. At least I don't have >to deal with constantly getting attached to cats only to have them adopted out >& I don't have to deal with kittens, which can be so much work. > > > >Beth > > >Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org > > > > >____________ > From: Lorrie >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 4:54 PM >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing & Fostering (Beth) > > >Beth I didn't know you fostered FelV cats. Have you had any who eventually >threw off the virus? All of the kittens I've taken in as FelV positive, who >must have acquired the virus from their mother, have died within two years. >However, from one litter of FelV kittens I have an male who is now 4 years >old, and he was the only one in his litter who did NOT test positive when I >took them in, and I later tested him and he was still negative. > >I really admire you for fostering FelV cats. It can be heartbreaking >when they become sick and die. I've had three PTS since October. They >would have been a year old in May. One from this same litter is still >fine, or seems to be. I will retest her soon. > >Lorrie > >On 04-23, Beth wrote: >> Chris - >> I would search the archives on "mixing". A lot of us mix our positive & >> non-positive, vaccinated cats. I have done it for over 10 years with no >> transmission of the virus to my healthy cats. I even have had FIV cats >> mix with the FeLV cats with no problems. And, yes, I do retest my >> negatives. >> It becomes a little difficult when you foster healthy cats for a >> shelter. I only foster FeLV cats these days. The shelter would not >> allow me to foster both positives & negative, even if they were >> separated. >> Beth > >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > >___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing & Fostering (Beth)
No, I have never seen one throw the virus off. I think fostering the FeLV cats is probably easier than fostering healthy cats, actually. I have done that plenty of times, too. At least I don't have to deal with constantly getting attached to cats only to have them adopted out & I don't have to deal with kittens, which can be so much work. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: Lorrie To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 4:54 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing & Fostering (Beth) Beth I didn't know you fostered FelV cats. Have you had any who eventually threw off the virus? All of the kittens I've taken in as FelV positive, who must have acquired the virus from their mother, have died within two years. However, from one litter of FelV kittens I have an male who is now 4 years old, and he was the only one in his litter who did NOT test positive when I took them in, and I later tested him and he was still negative. I really admire you for fostering FelV cats. It can be heartbreaking when they become sick and die. I've had three PTS since October. They would have been a year old in May. One from this same litter is still fine, or seems to be. I will retest her soon. Lorrie On 04-23, Beth wrote: > Chris - > I would search the archives on "mixing". A lot of us mix our positive & > non-positive, vaccinated cats. I have done it for over 10 years with no > transmission of the virus to my healthy cats. I even have had FIV cats > mix with the FeLV cats with no problems. And, yes, I do retest my > negatives. > It becomes a little difficult when you foster healthy cats for a > shelter. I only foster FeLV cats these days. The shelter would not > allow me to foster both positives & negative, even if they were > separated. > Beth ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing & Fostering (Beth)
Beth I didn't know you fostered FelV cats. Have you had any who eventually threw off the virus? All of the kittens I've taken in as FelV positive, who must have acquired the virus from their mother, have died within two years. However, from one litter of FelV kittens I have an male who is now 4 years old, and he was the only one in his litter who did NOT test positive when I took them in, and I later tested him and he was still negative. I really admire you for fostering FelV cats. It can be heartbreaking when they become sick and die. I've had three PTS since October. They would have been a year old in May. One from this same litter is still fine, or seems to be. I will retest her soon. Lorrie On 04-23, Beth wrote: >Chris - >I would search the archives on "mixing". A lot of us mix our positive & >non-positive, vaccinated cats. I have done it for over 10 years with no >transmission of the virus to my healthy cats. I even have had FIV cats >mix with the FeLV cats with no problems. And, yes, I do retest my >negatives. >It becomes a little difficult when you foster healthy cats for a >shelter. I only foster FeLV cats these days. The shelter would not >allow me to foster both positives & negative, even if they were >separated. >Beth ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing FelV pos. & neg
My vet had me vaccinate every 6 months, but as my cats have gotten older I only do it every year. I figure at this point they should have enough immunity. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: Sharyl To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 11:32 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing FelV pos. & neg The protocol I was given is 1st vaccine followed by booster shot in 30 days Give the 2nd vaccine 30 days before mixing positives and negatives Follow up every 12 months with a booster shot I wasn't aware there was more than 1 type of vaccine Sharyl From: Cheri Le To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Cc: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 9:59 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing FelV pos. & neg That is what I was worried about him eating out of there dishes,, water bowls and using litterbox. I am still very scared and hope I made the right decision. I have four other healthy 3 yr old females. I would never forgive myself if someone else got sick but wanted to do what was best for "bama". Do we vaccinate every year? 💜CHERI On Apr 22, 2013, at 8:27 AM, Beth wrote: They don't have to bite to transmit the virus.It can be transmitted but sharing food & water. But the vaccinne seems to have worked just fine over the years for me. > >Beth > > > >Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! http://www.furkids.org/ > > > >From: Gloria B. Lane >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 2:15 PM >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing FelV pos. & neg > > > >I've mixed mine (adults) for years also - I dont worry about it unless the are >aggressive bite, etc. > > >Gloria > > > > > > >From: Cheri Le >>To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" >>Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 12:39 PM >>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Napoleon lost his battle >> >> >> >>Thank u sooo much! I needed to heAr that. It's my first week intermingling >>them. My other four fur kids were vaccinated a week ago. I'm scared.. But I >>love him and don't want him alone in basement anymore. His constant diarrhea >>worries me though. His stomatitis doesn't bother him much at all tho! I WUV >>MY " BAMA RAMa" thank u all >> >>💜CHERI >> >> > >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing FelV pos. & neg
The protocol I was given is 1st vaccine followed by booster shot in 30 days Give the 2nd vaccine 30 days before mixing positives and negatives Follow up every 12 months with a booster shot I wasn't aware there was more than 1 type of vaccine Sharyl From: Cheri Le To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Cc: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 9:59 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing FelV pos. & neg That is what I was worried about him eating out of there dishes,, water bowls and using litterbox. I am still very scared and hope I made the right decision. I have four other healthy 3 yr old females. I would never forgive myself if someone else got sick but wanted to do what was best for "bama". Do we vaccinate every year? 💜CHERI On Apr 22, 2013, at 8:27 AM, Beth wrote: They don't have to bite to transmit the virus.It can be transmitted but sharing food & water. But the vaccinne seems to have worked just fine over the years for me. > >Beth > > > >Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! http://www.furkids.org/ > > > > > > From: Gloria B. Lane >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 2:15 PM >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing FelV pos. & neg > > > >I've mixed mine (adults) for years also - I dont worry about it unless the are >aggressive bite, etc. > > >Gloria > > > > > > >From: Cheri Le >>To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" >>Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 12:39 PM >>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Napoleon lost his battle >> >> >> >>Thank u sooo much! I needed to heAr that. It's my first week intermingling >>them. My other four fur kids were vaccinated a week ago. I'm scared.. But I >>love him and don't want him alone in basement anymore. His constant diarrhea >>worries me though. His stomatitis doesn't bother him much at all tho! I WUV >>MY " BAMA RAMa" thank u all >> >>💜CHERI >> >> > >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing FelV pos. & neg
That is what I was worried about him eating out of there dishes,, water bowls and using litterbox. I am still very scared and hope I made the right decision. I have four other healthy 3 yr old females. I would never forgive myself if someone else got sick but wanted to do what was best for "bama". Do we vaccinate every year? 💜CHERI On Apr 22, 2013, at 8:27 AM, Beth wrote: > They don't have to bite to transmit the virus.It can be transmitted but > sharing food & water. But the vaccinne seems to have worked just fine over > the years for me. > > Beth > > Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org > > > From: Gloria B. Lane > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 2:15 PM > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing FelV pos. & neg > > I've mixed mine (adults) for years also - I dont worry about it unless the > are aggressive bite, etc. > > Gloria > > > >> From: Cheri Le >> To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" >> Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 12:39 PM >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Napoleon lost his battle >> >> Thank u sooo much! I needed to heAr that. It's my first week intermingling >> them. My other four fur kids were vaccinated a week ago. I'm scared.. But I >> love him and don't want him alone in basement anymore. His constant diarrhea >> worries me though. His stomatitis doesn't bother him much at all tho! I WUV >> MY " BAMA RAMa" thank u all >> >> 💜CHERI > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing FelV pos. & neg
They don't have to bite to transmit the virus.It can be transmitted but sharing food & water. But the vaccinne seems to have worked just fine over the years for me. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: Gloria B. Lane To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 2:15 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing FelV pos. & neg I've mixed mine (adults) for years also - I dont worry about it unless the are aggressive bite, etc. Gloria From: Cheri Le >To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" >Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 12:39 PM >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Napoleon lost his battle > > > >Thank u sooo much! I needed to heAr that. It's my first week intermingling >them. My other four fur kids were vaccinated a week ago. I'm scared.. But I >love him and don't want him alone in basement anymore. His constant diarrhea >worries me though. His stomatitis doesn't bother him much at all tho! I WUV MY >" BAMA RAMa" thank u all > >💜CHERI > > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing FelV pos. & neg
Same here. I do vaccinate my negatives for FELV just in case, but no one ever bites, just slaps, growls and hisses. My vet says as long as the negatives re vaccinated, should be okay. "Gloria B. Lane" wrote: > I've mixed mine (adults) for years also - I dont worry about it unless the > are aggressive bite, etc. > > Gloria > > > > > From: Cheri Le > > To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" > > Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 12:39 PM > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Napoleon lost his battle > > > > Thank u sooo much! I needed to heAr that. It's my first week intermingling > > them. My other four fur kids were vaccinated a week ago. I'm scared.. But I > > love him and don't want him alone in basement anymore. His constant > > diarrhea worries me though. His stomatitis doesn't bother him much at all > > tho! I WUV MY " BAMA RAMa" thank u all > > > > 💜CHERI > > > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing FelV pos. & neg
I've mixed mine (adults) for years also - I dont worry about it unless the are aggressive bite, etc. Gloria > From: Cheri Le > To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" > Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 12:39 PM > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Napoleon lost his battle > > Thank u sooo much! I needed to heAr that. It's my first week intermingling > them. My other four fur kids were vaccinated a week ago. I'm scared.. But I > love him and don't want him alone in basement anymore. His constant diarrhea > worries me though. His stomatitis doesn't bother him much at all tho! I WUV > MY " BAMA RAMa" thank u all > > 💜CHERI > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing FelV pos. & neg
My family unintentionally mixed positives and negatives. We still don't know how the virus got in. One of the positives was euthanized, which is when we discovered the virus. Seven years later, the other positive is lying across the bed looking at me. She probably has lung cancer and possibly eye cancer, but she's done so well, and I'm very grateful. Three other cats who also had a lot of exposure to the positives tested negative. As far as I know, no one was vaccinated, though my positive girl might have been. I don't think that she got anything beyond the first vax. Not even sure about the booster. If I were to mix, I'd definitely vaccinate the negs. Lance > > On 04-19, Cheri Le wrote: > >> Please tell me that other people have vaccinated and intermingled. This is >> another decision I recently made. >> >> CHERI > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing FelV pos. & neg
Hi Marcia - Lee in Texas. Fortunately we dragged our Animal Control kicking and screaming into the 21st century during the 20th century with protests against their use of a pick-up truck engine with a tube extending into a hole in the wall. The wall was part of a small room at the Animal Control facility where they would toss unwanted dogs and cats, lock the door and turn on the truck engine. Then we had to convince them to get rid of the relatively modern gas chambers which replaced the truck engine, probably prototypes of the ones Hitler used on unfortunate citizens. Finally they are doing Death By Injection (they call is EBI, euthanisia by injection). Now we have to convince them that excess animals are not criminals and should not be put to death. However, they have accepted TNR and outside cat colonies. They really had no choice. San Antonio's only major newspaper did several investigative articles on our lovely City Pound as did The Current, San Antonio's progressive newspaper which is very popular with people who have a brain. Unfortunately, we have to stand ever vigilant here because the now renamed Animal Care Services (what a joke!) goes forward with most of the humans who run it having their heads turned on backwards or in a place where the sun never shines. You would probably do well to contact Alley Cat Allies at www.alleycat.org and tell them what's going on. They might have some good advice as to how to get this latest atrocity gone in your town. Yeah, cat feeders are much more dangerous than drug users-dealers. Everyone knows that. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! > > From: Marcia >To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" >Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 10:54 AM >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing FelV pos. & neg > > >Hey guys(-: Marcia from Ks. Guess what the town that I live in is doing now? >They are actually ticketing people who are caught feeding cats outside of >their house! No kidding. This town is full of methheads and this is what they >focus on. So sad. > >Sent from my absolutely outstanding iphone(: > > >On Apr 20, 2013, at 9:12 AM, Lorrie wrote: > >> Many of us have done this, and the cats have a better chance at >> not getting the virus if vaccinated, but what is so amazing is a >> lot older cats (meaning not kittens) can be mixed with positives >> and still remain negative. I have seen this many times. >> >> Hang in there Cheri, It isn't always a death sentence to a cat, >> and this group is a wonderful help. >> >> Lorrie >> >> On 04-19, Cheri Le wrote: >> >>> Please tell me that other people have vaccinated and intermingled. This is >>> another decision I recently made. >>> >>> CHERI >> >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > >___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing FelV pos. & neg
Hey guys(-: Marcia from Ks. Guess what the town that I live in is doing now? They are actually ticketing people who are caught feeding cats outside of their house! No kidding. This town is full of methheads and this is what they focus on. So sad. Sent from my absolutely outstanding iphone(: On Apr 20, 2013, at 9:12 AM, Lorrie wrote: > Many of us have done this, and the cats have a better chance at > not getting the virus if vaccinated, but what is so amazing is a > lot older cats (meaning not kittens) can be mixed with positives > and still remain negative. I have seen this many times. > > Hang in there Cheri, It isn't always a death sentence to a cat, > and this group is a wonderful help. > > Lorrie > > On 04-19, Cheri Le wrote: > >> Please tell me that other people have vaccinated and intermingled. This is >> another decision I recently made. >> >> CHERI > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing FelV pos. & neg
Many of us have done this, and the cats have a better chance at not getting the virus if vaccinated, but what is so amazing is a lot older cats (meaning not kittens) can be mixed with positives and still remain negative. I have seen this many times. Hang in there Cheri, It isn't always a death sentence to a cat, and this group is a wonderful help. Lorrie On 04-19, Cheri Le wrote: > Please tell me that other people have vaccinated and intermingled. This is > another decision I recently made. > > CHERI ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing FeLV & non-FeLV cats
Yes, a lot of us mix our vaccinated cats with our FeLV cats with no problems. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: Cheri Le To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 12:39 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Napoleon lost his battle Thank u sooo much! I needed to heAr that. It's my first week intermingling them. My other four fur kids were vaccinated a week ago. I'm scared.. But I love him and don't want him alone in basement anymore. His constant diarrhea worries me though. His stomatitis doesn't bother him much at all tho! I WUV MY " BAMA RAMa" thank u all 💜CHERI On Apr 19, 2013, at 10:05 AM, Sharyl wrote: That is what did when I started rescuing feral FeLV kittens. My house kitties were all adults. I got them current on their FeLV vaccine before mixing them. None of my negative kitties contract FeLV. My FeLV kittens lived from 1 - 4 yrs. Each was very special and made a huge impact on my life. I miss them dearly and wouldn't have changed anything. > >Sharyl. > > >From: Cheri Le >To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" >Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 8:45 AM >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Napoleon lost his battle > > >Please tell me that other people have vaccinated and intermingled. This is >another decision I recently made > >💜CHERI > >On Apr 19, 2013, at 8:37 AM, Cheri Le wrote: > >> I have A 5 yr old double positive with stomatitis and constant diarrhea ... >> I am soo scared. I also vaccinated my four others (tho I no it's not 100%). I don't have much money and I am so scared of losing him. Thank you I'm an emotional reck >> >> 💜CHERI >> >> On Apr 18, 2013, at 4:06 PM, wrote: >> >>> So sorry. I know how it feels to loose a loved one human or animal. I am >>> hoping no more of my babies leave me soon. >>> >>> >>> Beth wrote: I had an FeLV cat who belonged to a friend. He was her cat, but lived at my house because I have FeLV cats. He has been battlingStomatitis the last few months. She picked him up to take him to the vet yesterday morning. During his exam they felt a mass in his tummy. They put him under to explore further. He had cancer from his abdomen to his esophagus. They never woke him back up. He looked & acted so healthy except for the stomatits. He is very much missed. He was a silly, sweet, mischievous boy. & I loved him for all of it! >>> >>> >>> Beth >>> Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing FeLV Positve & FeLV Negative Vaccinated Cats
I mixed my vaccinated FIV cat for years with my FeLV cats. They were never separated in any way. He was re-tested several times over the years, including shortly before he passed away. He never got the FeLV virus, & he was obviously immune supressed with the FIV. My former vet recommended vaccinating for FeLV every 6 months, which is what I did when I had FeLV's in the house. Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: Jo To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 7:45 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Mixing FeLV Positve & FeLV Negative Vaccinated Cats Is mixing like this recommended? In my brood I have a 15-year old tiny girl who tested positive for FeLV, a 12-year old blind boy and 10-year old girl who have not been tested, and a 2-year old girl and 6-month old girl who both tested negative and are vaccinated. I recently lost my beautiful 2-year old blond boy to FeLV in January and have since been trying to learn as much as possible about it. The older cats do not really interact with the younger ones. I know it's too late now if I can't mix them and I'm taking my chances but I'd really like to know if it can be done. Thank you in advance for all your help. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing FeLV Positve & FeLV Negative Vaccinated Cats
I didn't think FeLVcpuldbe spread via sneezes, just saliva Marta Gasper wrote: >Well.. I don't think there is a definitive answer to your question(not just >yours most of us came accross it at some point)..basically if negative cats >don't come into contact with positives they won't get infected. Also infection >results from long time exposure, ie if a negative licks a postive dish once in >a blue moon he won't get infected, however if he does clean the + plate every >day, he could. >If a positive grooms a negative once the negative won't get it but if he does >it everyday or several times a day he could, same as for sharing beds, >litterboxes, etc. > I recently read on internet that infection thru aerosol/ airborne virus is >rare in cats but common in dogs.., I don't know abt it. While the virus >live for a few hrs out of the host if a - cat happens to absorb a + sneeze >right after the + sneezed he could be infected. >I've two FeLV+ one lives in a room by himself though during the day I put him >in a LG crate in the garage for a change, he loves it. >The other one is in a crate in another room(reason for crate is that it is the >basement and other cats are around, however he doesn't sneeze so I'm not >concerned somebody that just happens to pass by could get a droplet or two., >The first one does have a chronic sinus infection so he sneezes quite a bit. >I keep a litter in another room, young and senior are most vulnerable to >infection. >All the cats except the new litter are vaccinated. >M > >http://homelessnomore.webs.com/ > >From: Jo >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 2:45 PM >Subject: [Felvtalk] Mixing FeLV Positve & FeLV Negative Vaccinated Cats > >Is mixing like this recommended? In my brood I have a 15-year old tiny girl >who tested positive for FeLV, a 12-year old blind boy and 10-year old girl >who have not been tested, and a 2-year old girl and 6-month old girl who >both tested negative and are vaccinated. I recently lost my beautiful >2-year old blond boy to FeLV in January and have since been trying to learn >as much as possible about it. The older cats do not really interact with >the younger ones. I know it's too late now if I can't mix them and I'm >taking my chances but I'd really like to know if it can be done. Thank you >in advance for all your help. > > >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing FeLV Positve & FeLV Negative Vaccinated Cats
I am far from being an expert here. My cat Oliver (6) was diagnosed with the leukemia virus back in December after my cat Daisy (4) suddenly got ill and passed away. Turns out that she had leukemia even though she was vaccinated against it and showed no prior signs of having it. Oliver mixes with 4 of my other cats and nobody has tested positive. Holly -Original Message- From: HIDEYO YAMAMOTO To: felvtalk Sent: Tue, May 22, 2012 3:18 pm Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing FeLV Positve & FeLV Negative Vaccinated Cats I personally have known about a dozen people who mix their positves to negatives - and negatives are not vaccinated either - and some of the cats have lived together, meaning share everything - grooming..etc.. amazingly, none of their negatives have become positives - though I have to say, all of they are adults cats - I am sure that kittens are more susceptible - and some of them are lving together for several years. Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 15:12:49 -0700 From: marta.gas...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing FeLV Positve & FeLV Negative Vaccinated Cats Well.. I don't think there is a definitive answer to your question(not just yours most of us came accross it at some point)..basically if negative cats don't come into contact with positives they won't get infected. Also infection results from long time exposure, ie if a negative licks a postive dish once in a blue moon he won't get infected, however if he does clean the + plate every day, he could. If a positive grooms a negative once the negative won't get it but if he does it everyday or several times a day he could, same as for sharing beds, litterboxes, etc. I recently read on internet that infection thru aerosol/ airborne virus is rare in cats but common in dogs.., I don't know abt it. While the virus live for a few hrs out of the host if a - cat happens to absorb a + sneeze right after the + sneezed he could be infected. I've two FeLV+ one lives in a room by himself though during the day I put him in a LG crate in the garage for a change, he loves it. The other one is in a crate in another room(reason for crate is that it is the basement and other cats are around, however he doesn't sneeze so I'm not concerned somebody that just happens to pass by could get a droplet or two., The first one does have a chronic sinus infection so he sneezes quite a bit. I keep a litter in another room, young and senior are most vulnerable to infection. All the cats except the new litter are vaccinated. M http://homelessnomore.webs.com/ From: Jo To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 2:45 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Mixing FeLV Positve & FeLV Negative Vaccinated Cats Is mixing like this recommended? In my brood I have a 15-year old tiny girl who tested positive for FeLV, a 12-year old blind boy and 10-year old girl who have not been tested, and a 2-year old girl and 6-month old girl who both tested negative and are vaccinated. I recently lost my beautiful 2-year old blond boy to FeLV in January and have since been trying to learn as much as possible about it. The older cats do not really interact with the younger ones. I know it's too late now if I can't mix them and I'm taking my chances but I'd really like to know if it can be done. Thank you in advance for all your help. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing FeLV Positve & FeLV Negative Vaccinated Cats
I personally have known about a dozen people who mix their positves to negatives - and negatives are not vaccinated either - and some of the cats have lived together, meaning share everything - grooming..etc.. amazingly, none of their negatives have become positives - though I have to say, all of they are adults cats - I am sure that kittens are more susceptible - and some of them are lving together for several years. Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 15:12:49 -0700 From: marta.gas...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing FeLV Positve & FeLV Negative Vaccinated Cats Well.. I don't think there is a definitive answer to your question(not just yours most of us came accross it at some point)..basically if negative cats don't come into contact with positives they won't get infected. Also infection results from long time exposure, ie if a negative licks a postive dish once in a blue moon he won't get infected, however if he does clean the + plate every day, he could. If a positive grooms a negative once the negative won't get it but if he does it everyday or several times a day he could, same as for sharing beds, litterboxes, etc. I recently read on internet that infection thru aerosol/ airborne virus is rare in cats but common in dogs.., I don't know abt it. While the virus live for a few hrs out of the host if a - cat happens to absorb a + sneeze right after the + sneezed he could be infected. I've two FeLV+ one lives in a room by himself though during the day I put him in a LG crate in the garage for a change, he loves it. The other one is in a crate in another room(reason for crate is that it is the basement and other cats are around, however he doesn't sneeze so I'm not concerned somebody that just happens to pass by could get a droplet or two., The first one does have a chronic sinus infection so he sneezes quite a bit. I keep a litter in another room, young and senior are most vulnerable to infection. All the cats except the new litter are vaccinated. M http://homelessnomore.webs.com/ From: Jo To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 2:45 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Mixing FeLV Positve & FeLV Negative Vaccinated Cats Is mixing like this recommended? In my brood I have a 15-year old tiny girl who tested positive for FeLV, a 12-year old blind boy and 10-year old girl who have not been tested, and a 2-year old girl and 6-month old girl who both tested negative and are vaccinated. I recently lost my beautiful 2-year old blond boy to FeLV in January and have since been trying to learn as much as possible about it. The older cats do not really interact with the younger ones. I know it's too late now if I can't mix them and I'm taking my chances but I'd really like to know if it can be done. Thank you in advance for all your help. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing FeLV Positve & FeLV Negative Vaccinated Cats
Well.. I don't think there is a definitive answer to your question(not just yours most of us came accross it at some point)..basically if negative cats don't come into contact with positives they won't get infected. Also infection results from long time exposure, ie if a negative licks a postive dish once in a blue moon he won't get infected, however if he does clean the + plate every day, he could. If a positive grooms a negative once the negative won't get it but if he does it everyday or several times a day he could, same as for sharing beds, litterboxes, etc. I recently read on internet that infection thru aerosol/ airborne virus is rare in cats but common in dogs.., I don't know abt it. While the virus live for a few hrs out of the host if a - cat happens to absorb a + sneeze right after the + sneezed he could be infected. I've two FeLV+ one lives in a room by himself though during the day I put him in a LG crate in the garage for a change, he loves it. The other one is in a crate in another room(reason for crate is that it is the basement and other cats are around, however he doesn't sneeze so I'm not concerned somebody that just happens to pass by could get a droplet or two., The first one does have a chronic sinus infection so he sneezes quite a bit. I keep a litter in another room, young and senior are most vulnerable to infection. All the cats except the new litter are vaccinated. M http://homelessnomore.webs.com/ From: Jo To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 2:45 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Mixing FeLV Positve & FeLV Negative Vaccinated Cats Is mixing like this recommended? In my brood I have a 15-year old tiny girl who tested positive for FeLV, a 12-year old blind boy and 10-year old girl who have not been tested, and a 2-year old girl and 6-month old girl who both tested negative and are vaccinated. I recently lost my beautiful 2-year old blond boy to FeLV in January and have since been trying to learn as much as possible about it. The older cats do not really interact with the younger ones. I know it's too late now if I can't mix them and I'm taking my chances but I'd really like to know if it can be done. Thank you in advance for all your help. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing FeLV Positve & FeLV Negative Vaccinated Cats
Lots of people here mix, some don't. I have done it for 10 years with no transmission. This is a common question. You will find a lot of info if you search the archives on "mixing" Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: Jo To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 7:45 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Mixing FeLV Positve & FeLV Negative Vaccinated Cats Is mixing like this recommended? In my brood I have a 15-year old tiny girl who tested positive for FeLV, a 12-year old blind boy and 10-year old girl who have not been tested, and a 2-year old girl and 6-month old girl who both tested negative and are vaccinated. I recently lost my beautiful 2-year old blond boy to FeLV in January and have since been trying to learn as much as possible about it. The older cats do not really interact with the younger ones. I know it's too late now if I can't mix them and I'm taking my chances but I'd really like to know if it can be done. Thank you in advance for all your help. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing pos and neg cats
Cats get addicted to those little cans because they are loaded with inordinate amounts of sugar and fats (it was found that diabetes can be attributed to cats whose diet includes only those addictive foods)cats' palates get acclimated to them and eventually refuse any of the "good" foods, which are still not very good for them. I have recently read a report on pet foods - many contain flesh from shelter-killed animals, reject meat from slaughterhouses like tumors, diseased flesh, cartilage, bones, and even hides. It's a rotten shame that one can't even trust the very best and most expensive foods for our dogs and cats. There are things that one can place on top of so-called "better" foods, like those dried fish flakes, or teeny amounts of what they like just to make them eat something a little better. But if a cat doesn't want to eat at all, I always feel that something is better than nothing - as long as they get some nutrition! Some of our cats love "people" tuna in oil (not water), the dark kind, and others like sardines in oil; the smelliest being mackerel...it's a matter of trial and error. BTW - honey contains all kinds of helpful enzymes, especially the kind that isn't pasteurized! Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 11:02 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing pos and neg cats I lnow someone who used Coke in an emergency. Hey it had sugar & it worked! Marta Gasper wrote: >What hapens with giving them a dab of honey is that it boost the blood sugar >so if they might start to eat. It is the sugar, not the texture. I've a rescue >group and fosters , we always use honey in cases when a cat stops eating, >specially with kittens and anemic cats. Rub honey or Karo on their gums so it >is absorbed by the skin, sugar goes directly in their bloodstream w/o having >to use energy to break up what they swallowed. Also give sugar water by >syringe, shoot in cheek pouch. > >I wished the good foods were more palatable to cats, mine don't like >them either but they love Purina cat chow and Fancy Feast..like ppl we >are not too atracted to health food though;) Marta > > >http://homelessnomore.webs.com/ > >--- On Fri, 2/24/12, dppl dppl wrote: > > >From: dppl dppl >Subject: [Felvtalk] Mixing pos and neg cats >To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" >Date: Friday, February 24, 2012, 10:58 PM > > > > > >Toni, i enjoyed reading about your family and your tips. I also put a >dab of vicks vapor rub on the nose of my cat that had the respiratory >infection . I tried Wellness dry cat food but none of my cats would eat >it. They like some of the purina one dry food flavors. I tried the >Tiki brand b/c I heard it was good but after trying it my cats didn't >really want to keep eating it. they liked the tuna and chicken best or >plain tuna. I tired purina one canned but they don't really like it >that much. They like some of the fancy feast and publix brand and >target boots and barclay. I would prefer they ate foods without dyes, >etc but they seem to like the "junk" food. I give them deli low salt >turkey for a treat every now and then. Re losing hair years ago I used >to use frontline and it took the hair off the area of one of my cat's >neck and it didn't grow back for years. some of my cats foamed at the >mouth so I just gave up. I use a flea comb on them, drop the fleas in >alcohol. I have a cat fence section of my yard and have been treating >it with diamateceous earth, supposedly a natural flea killer. I have noticed >fewer fleas so i will keep trying. >Another issue is kitty litter. My cats hate any scented. Re the corn >and hard pellet, they refused to use it. I currently use Dr Eisley but >it doesn't absorb as good as it used to. > > > > > >From: dppl dppl >To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" >Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 3:10 PM >Subject: Tips to share? > > > > > >On a different subject thought I might share this > >Re taking cats to vets: >I often forget this in the stress of trying to help a sick animal > but if you put an t shirt or towel you wore in the carrier with your >scent , it seems to calm them. Ask vet staff to put it in their kennels >if they are being transferred from the carrier they came in.. >Re getting a cat to eat: >I recently had three older cats that were sick and were being treated >with antibiotics and wouldn't eat. One had upper respiratory congestion. One >urinary infection. >One reason unknown. They were on antib
Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing pos and neg cats
I lnow someone who used Coke in an emergency. Hey it had sugar & it worked! Marta Gasper wrote: >What hapens with giving them a dab of honey is that it boost the blood sugar >so if they might start to eat. It is the sugar, not the texture. I've a rescue >group and fosters , we always use honey in cases when a cat stops eating, >specially with kittens and anemic cats. Rub honey or Karo on their gums so it >is absorbed by the skin, sugar goes directly in their bloodstream w/o having >to use energy to break up what they swallowed. Also give sugar water by >syringe, shoot in cheek pouch. > >I wished the good foods were more palatable to cats, mine don't like them >either but they love Purina cat chow and Fancy Feast..like ppl we are not too >atracted to health food though;) >Marta > > >http://homelessnomore.webs.com/ > >--- On Fri, 2/24/12, dppl dppl wrote: > > >From: dppl dppl >Subject: [Felvtalk] Mixing pos and neg cats >To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" >Date: Friday, February 24, 2012, 10:58 PM > > > > > >Toni, i enjoyed reading about your family and your tips. I also put a dab of >vicks vapor rub on the nose of my cat that had the respiratory infection . I >tried >Wellness dry cat food but none of my cats would eat it. They like some of >the purina one dry food flavors. I tried the Tiki brand b/c I heard it was >good but >after trying it my cats didn't really want to keep eating it. they liked the >tuna >and chicken best or plain tuna. I tired purina one canned but they >don't really like it that much. They like some of >the fancy feast and publix brand and target boots and barclay. I would prefer >they ate foods without dyes, etc but they seem to like the "junk" food. I give >them deli low salt turkey for a treat every now and then. Re losing hair >years ago I used to use frontline and it took the hair off the area of one of >my cat's neck and it didn't grow back for years. some of my cats foamed >at the mouth so I just gave up. I use a flea comb on them, drop the fleas in >alcohol. I have a cat fence section of my yard and have been treating it >with diamateceous earth, supposedly a natural flea killer. I have noticed >fewer fleas so i will keep trying. >Another issue is kitty litter. My cats hate any scented. Re the corn and hard >pellet, they refused to use it. I currently use >Dr Eisley but it doesn't absorb as good as it used to. > > > > > >From: dppl dppl >To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" >Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 3:10 PM >Subject: Tips to share? > > > > > >On a different subject thought I might share this > >Re taking cats to vets: >I often forget this in the stress of trying to help a sick animal > but if you put an t shirt or towel you wore in the carrier with your scent , >it >seems to calm them. Ask vet staff to put it in their kennels if they are being >transferred >from the carrier they came in.. >Re getting a cat to eat: >I recently had three older cats that were sick and were being treated with >antibiotics >and wouldn't eat. One had upper respiratory congestion. One urinary infection. >One reason unknown. They were on antibiotics but still wouldn't eat. >Sometimes antibiotics upset stomach. >Searched the internet and found a suggestion to put a dab of honey in >their mouth. Don't know if coincidence or the antibiotics kicking in > but it seemed to help them maybe soothed >sore throat or stomach. I only put a dime sized drop on outer lips once or >twice . I am not a vet so >if you are thinking of trying this,. >Check with your vet first, as i did to make sure no harm given your cat's >specific condition.. >one of the sites mentioning honey is >mia-carter.suite101.com/why-isnt-my-cat-eating-a60630 >has anyone else had experience with this home remedy? >Cat with upper respiratory infection: >I also put my cat in the bathroom when i took a steaming shower. I think >it really helped. > > > > > >-Inline Attachment Follows- > > >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing pos and neg cats
What hapens with giving them a dab of honey is that it boost the blood sugar so if they might start to eat. It is the sugar, not the texture. I've a rescue group and fosters , we always use honey in cases when a cat stops eating, specially with kittens and anemic cats. Rub honey or Karo on their gums so it is absorbed by the skin, sugar goes directly in their bloodstream w/o having to use energy to break up what they swallowed. Also give sugar water by syringe, shoot in cheek pouch. I wished the good foods were more palatable to cats, mine don't like them either but they love Purina cat chow and Fancy Feast..like ppl we are not too atracted to health food though;) Marta http://homelessnomore.webs.com/ --- On Fri, 2/24/12, dppl dppl wrote: From: dppl dppl Subject: [Felvtalk] Mixing pos and neg cats To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Date: Friday, February 24, 2012, 10:58 PM Toni, i enjoyed reading about your family and your tips. I also put a dab of vicks vapor rub on the nose of my cat that had the respiratory infection . I tried Wellness dry cat food but none of my cats would eat it. They like some of the purina one dry food flavors. I tried the Tiki brand b/c I heard it was good but after trying it my cats didn't really want to keep eating it. they liked the tuna and chicken best or plain tuna. I tired purina one canned but they don't really like it that much. They like some of the fancy feast and publix brand and target boots and barclay. I would prefer they ate foods without dyes, etc but they seem to like the "junk" food. I give them deli low salt turkey for a treat every now and then. Re losing hair years ago I used to use frontline and it took the hair off the area of one of my cat's neck and it didn't grow back for years. some of my cats foamed at the mouth so I just gave up. I use a flea comb on them, drop the fleas in alcohol. I have a cat fence section of my yard and have been treating it with diamateceous earth, supposedly a natural flea killer. I have noticed fewer fleas so i will keep trying. Another issue is kitty litter. My cats hate any scented. Re the corn and hard pellet, they refused to use it. I currently use Dr Eisley but it doesn't absorb as good as it used to. From: dppl dppl To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 3:10 PM Subject: Tips to share? On a different subject thought I might share this Re taking cats to vets: I often forget this in the stress of trying to help a sick animal but if you put an t shirt or towel you wore in the carrier with your scent , it seems to calm them. Ask vet staff to put it in their kennels if they are being transferred from the carrier they came in.. Re getting a cat to eat: I recently had three older cats that were sick and were being treated with antibiotics and wouldn't eat. One had upper respiratory congestion. One urinary infection. One reason unknown. They were on antibiotics but still wouldn't eat. Sometimes antibiotics upset stomach. Searched the internet and found a suggestion to put a dab of honey in their mouth. Don't know if coincidence or the antibiotics kicking in but it seemed to help them maybe soothed sore throat or stomach. I only put a dime sized drop on outer lips once or twice . I am not a vet so if you are thinking of trying this,. Check with your vet first, as i did to make sure no harm given your cat's specific condition.. one of the sites mentioning honey is mia-carter.suite101.com/why-isnt-my-cat-eating-a60630 has anyone else had experience with this home remedy? Cat with upper respiratory infection: I also put my cat in the bathroom when i took a steaming shower. I think it really helped. -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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it isn't that bad, i don't spend as much as it sounds. mostly keep them healthy and you don't have too many vet calls. Bonnie Hogue wrote: > Man, I bet the vets love us... > - Original Message - > From: > To: > Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 6:46 PM > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing > > > > MY VET ADVISED ME TO KEEP THE NEGATIVES SEPERATED UNTIL THEIR VACCINATION > > HAD TIME TO TAKE EFFECT. SINCE THEN, MY POSITIVES AND NEGATIVES ARE > > MIXED. COURSE, YOU HAVE TO KEEP UP TO DATE ON SHOTS FOR THE NEGATIVES, > > JUST TO BE SURE. ALL OF MY CHILDREN ARE DOING WELL. KEPING THEM APART IS > > SO STRESSFUL EXPECIALLY IF THERE IS ONLY ONE POSITIVE. I THINK THAT HURTS > > THEM MORE THAN LETTING THEM MIX. WE KEEP A CLOSE EYE ON EVERYONE AND WHEN > > SOMEONE ACTS A BIT DIFFERENT, OFF TO THE VET WE GO. THAT WAY WE CAN CATCH > > A PROBLEM BEFORE IT GETS TOO BIG. > > create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: > >> Yes, it can be. Stress can also be damaging & was a big reason I chose to > >> mix. > >> At this point my negative cats are all 9-10 yrs old & have other medical > >> issues which will probably get them way before FeLV or Vaccine sarcomas. > >> Again, it is a personal choice which should not be made lightly. All the > >> Info should be looked at & each person has to make the choice they know > >> they can live with. > >> > >> Beth > >> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > >> > >> -Original Message- > >> From: "Michelle Brockman " > >> Sender: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > >> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 23:31:49 > >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing > >> > >> Over vaccinating can also be damaging in its own right. Please everyone > >> remember that. > >> > >> > >> -Original Message- > >> From: Beth > >> Sent: 10/14/2010 11:16:48 PM > >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing > >> I mixed my cats on the ADVICE OF MY VET. She vaccinated my negatives, > >> including my FIV+ cat every 6 months. I had 5 negatives & 5 positives who > >> shared everything. I even had one cat live for many months in one room > >> with one of my negatives. All negative cats have been re-tested several > >> times over the years & NONE have turned positive. Including my FIV cat, > >> who obviously had a depressed immune system. He lived for many years > >> after the FeLV cats passed away. > >> I don't think I am a bad person for doing that. It was not a decision > >> lightly reached & I took every initial precaution to make sure my > >> negatives cats were protected. > >> I would never tell someone to mix - that is a personal decision & should > >> be discussed with a vet. Before I mixed any of my cats I got my negatives > >> re-vaccinated, waited 3 weeks, got them boostered, waited another week, & > >> then let them mix. > >> Beth > >> Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org<http://www.Furkids.org> > >> > >> --- On Wed, 10/13/10, Michelle Brockman wrote: > >> > >> From: Michelle Brockman > >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing > >> To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org " > >> Date: Wednesday, October 13, 2010, 11:54 PM > >> > >> I would like to add that the vaccines are NOT foolproof and do not have > >> 100% efficacy. I have personally had 11 cats that I rescued with FeLv die > >> a terrible death and would never expose a healthy non-positive cat to the > >> virus knowingly, regardless of how many people may have been lucky with > >> mixing so far. The virus can be spread through saliva which means > >> continual shared eating and drinking quarters and grooming. It can also > >> be passed on in litterboxes so it isn't just fighting you have to > >> consider. I am a very positive person and love all animals regardless of > >> their infliction but could never imagine why anyone would want to risk > >> endangering their other pets, vaccine or not. > >> > >> > >> -Original Message- > >> From: Melinda Kerr > >> Sent: 10/14/2010 1:37:27 AM > >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing > >> I'm sorry for your loss. I've only had my Fuj
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My veterinarian NEVER vaccinates cats at the time of surgery, illness...unlike many vets who insist on vaccinating no matter how ill the cats are.Cat owners do not bother finding out which vaccines to choose or not, depending on a cat's lifestylemany blindly accept a vet's vaccine protocolgetting FeLV and FIV vaccines when it isn't warranted, neither going outside or exposed to other cats who might have it.I have yet to see a vet who adheres to the latest protocol for FVRCP instead of yearly, every three years. It's all about the money with many vets.Personally, I have not have cats with injection site sarcomas, nor from FeLV vaccines - have never used them yet. I have only two healthy FeLV+ cats that are very healthy. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Michelle Brockman Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 11:03 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing I know of several instances of the same thing happening Natalie in addition to two kittens I personally adopted devloping FIP after vaccines which is why I feel so strongly about vaccines. Also, there seems to be a higher occurance of injection site sarcomas when the felv vaccine is combined with the rabies vaccine. fyi -Original Message- From: Natalie Sent: 10/15/2010 1:37:42 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing Vaccinating cats for anything when their immune systems are seriously compromised can be very dangerous! I have also known friends with cats that were routinely vaccinated against FeLV that developed all kinds of cancers - coincidence or not, it does happen. Natlie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of create_me_...@yahoo.com Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 8:16 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing Yes, it can be. Stress can also be damaging & was a big reason I chose to mix. At this point my negative cats are all 9-10 yrs old & have other medical issues which will probably get them way before FeLV or Vaccine sarcomas. Again, it is a personal choice which should not be made lightly. All the Info should be looked at & each person has to make the choice they know they can live with. Beth Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: "Michelle Brockman " Sender: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 23:31:49 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing Over vaccinating can also be damaging in its own right. Please everyone remember that. -Original Message- From: Beth Sent: 10/14/2010 11:16:48 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing I mixed my cats on the ADVICE OF MY VET. She vaccinated my negatives, including my FIV+ cat every 6 months. I had 5 negatives & 5 positives who shared everything. I even had one cat live for many months in one room with one of my negatives. All negative cats have been re-tested several times over the years & NONE have turned positive. Including my FIV cat, who obviously had a depressed immune system. He lived for many years after the FeLV cats passed away. I don't think I am a bad person for doing that. It was not a decision lightly reached & I took every initial precaution to make sure my negatives cats were protected. I would never tell someone to mix - that is a personal decision & should be discussed with a vet. Before I mixed any of my cats I got my negatives re-vaccinated, waited 3 weeks, got them boostered, waited another week, & then let them mix. Beth Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org<http://www.Furkids.org<http://www.Furkids.org<http://www.Fur kids.org>> --- On Wed, 10/13/10, Michelle Brockman wrote: From: Michelle Brockman Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org " Date: Wednesday, October 13, 2010, 11:54 PM I would like to add that the vaccines are NOT foolproof and do not have 100% efficacy. I have personally had 11 cats that I rescued with FeLv die a terrible death and would never expose a healthy non-positive cat to the virus knowingly, regardless of how many people may have been lucky with mixing so far. The virus can be spread through saliva which means continual shared eating and drinking quarters and grooming. It can also be passed on in litterboxes so it isn't just fighting you have to consider. I am a very positive person and love all animals regardless of their infliction but could never imagine why anyone would want to risk endangering their other pets, vaccine or not. -Original Message----- From: Melinda Kerr Sent: 10/14/2010 1:37:27 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing I'm sorry for your
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I know of several instances of the same thing happening Natalie in addition to two kittens I personally adopted devloping FIP after vaccines which is why I feel so strongly about vaccines. Also, there seems to be a higher occurance of injection site sarcomas when the felv vaccine is combined with the rabies vaccine. fyi -Original Message- From: Natalie Sent: 10/15/2010 1:37:42 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing Vaccinating cats for anything when their immune systems are seriously compromised can be very dangerous! I have also known friends with cats that were routinely vaccinated against FeLV that developed all kinds of cancers - coincidence or not, it does happen. Natlie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of create_me_...@yahoo.com Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 8:16 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing Yes, it can be. Stress can also be damaging & was a big reason I chose to mix. At this point my negative cats are all 9-10 yrs old & have other medical issues which will probably get them way before FeLV or Vaccine sarcomas. Again, it is a personal choice which should not be made lightly. All the Info should be looked at & each person has to make the choice they know they can live with. Beth Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: "Michelle Brockman " Sender: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 23:31:49 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing Over vaccinating can also be damaging in its own right. Please everyone remember that. -Original Message- From: Beth Sent: 10/14/2010 11:16:48 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing I mixed my cats on the ADVICE OF MY VET. She vaccinated my negatives, including my FIV+ cat every 6 months. I had 5 negatives & 5 positives who shared everything. I even had one cat live for many months in one room with one of my negatives. All negative cats have been re-tested several times over the years & NONE have turned positive. Including my FIV cat, who obviously had a depressed immune system. He lived for many years after the FeLV cats passed away. I don't think I am a bad person for doing that. It was not a decision lightly reached & I took every initial precaution to make sure my negatives cats were protected. I would never tell someone to mix - that is a personal decision & should be discussed with a vet. Before I mixed any of my cats I got my negatives re-vaccinated, waited 3 weeks, got them boostered, waited another week, & then let them mix. Beth Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org<http://www.Furkids.org<http://www.Furkids.org<http://www.Furkids.org>> --- On Wed, 10/13/10, Michelle Brockman wrote: From: Michelle Brockman Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org " Date: Wednesday, October 13, 2010, 11:54 PM I would like to add that the vaccines are NOT foolproof and do not have 100% efficacy. I have personally had 11 cats that I rescued with FeLv die a terrible death and would never expose a healthy non-positive cat to the virus knowingly, regardless of how many people may have been lucky with mixing so far. The virus can be spread through saliva which means continual shared eating and drinking quarters and grooming. It can also be passed on in litterboxes so it isn't just fighting you have to consider. I am a very positive person and love all animals regardless of their infliction but could never imagine why anyone would want to risk endangering their other pets, vaccine or not. -Original Message- From: Melinda Kerr Sent: 10/14/2010 1:37:27 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing I'm sorry for your loss. I've only had my Fuji for a little over a year and every time I think about losing her it breaks my heart. Thank you for sharing. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 14, 2010, at 9:08 AM, Frank & Sue Koren wrote: > I had 6 negative cats when Buzzy came to me. He tested positive in January > of 2008. At that time Casper was about 4 years old. I had all my positive > cats vaccinated and released Buzz into the general population in April of > 2008. In July I took in another positive and in September still another > positive. Buzzy died in November of anemia, a common FeLV problem. I kept > all the negative cats up to date on their vaccines. In December of 2009 > Casper started sneezing quite a bit. He went through a round of antibiotics > and got better for a while but then the sneezing came back and he was on > meds again. Some time in February he just didn't seem like himself and I > took him to the vet again. That was when they decided to test h
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Vaccinating cats for anything when their immune systems are seriously compromised can be very dangerous! I have also known friends with cats that were routinely vaccinated against FeLV that developed all kinds of cancers - coincidence or not, it does happen. Natlie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of create_me_...@yahoo.com Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 8:16 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing Yes, it can be. Stress can also be damaging & was a big reason I chose to mix. At this point my negative cats are all 9-10 yrs old & have other medical issues which will probably get them way before FeLV or Vaccine sarcomas. Again, it is a personal choice which should not be made lightly. All the Info should be looked at & each person has to make the choice they know they can live with. Beth Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: "Michelle Brockman " Sender: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 23:31:49 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing Over vaccinating can also be damaging in its own right. Please everyone remember that. -Original Message- From: Beth Sent: 10/14/2010 11:16:48 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing I mixed my cats on the ADVICE OF MY VET. She vaccinated my negatives, including my FIV+ cat every 6 months. I had 5 negatives & 5 positives who shared everything. I even had one cat live for many months in one room with one of my negatives. All negative cats have been re-tested several times over the years & NONE have turned positive. Including my FIV cat, who obviously had a depressed immune system. He lived for many years after the FeLV cats passed away. I don't think I am a bad person for doing that. It was not a decision lightly reached & I took every initial precaution to make sure my negatives cats were protected. I would never tell someone to mix - that is a personal decision & should be discussed with a vet. Before I mixed any of my cats I got my negatives re-vaccinated, waited 3 weeks, got them boostered, waited another week, & then let them mix. Beth Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org<http://www.Furkids.org> --- On Wed, 10/13/10, Michelle Brockman wrote: From: Michelle Brockman Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org " Date: Wednesday, October 13, 2010, 11:54 PM I would like to add that the vaccines are NOT foolproof and do not have 100% efficacy. I have personally had 11 cats that I rescued with FeLv die a terrible death and would never expose a healthy non-positive cat to the virus knowingly, regardless of how many people may have been lucky with mixing so far. The virus can be spread through saliva which means continual shared eating and drinking quarters and grooming. It can also be passed on in litterboxes so it isn't just fighting you have to consider. I am a very positive person and love all animals regardless of their infliction but could never imagine why anyone would want to risk endangering their other pets, vaccine or not. -Original Message- From: Melinda Kerr Sent: 10/14/2010 1:37:27 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing I'm sorry for your loss. I've only had my Fuji for a little over a year and every time I think about losing her it breaks my heart. Thank you for sharing. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 14, 2010, at 9:08 AM, Frank & Sue Koren wrote: > I had 6 negative cats when Buzzy came to me. He tested positive in January > of 2008. At that time Casper was about 4 years old. I had all my positive > cats vaccinated and released Buzz into the general population in April of > 2008. In July I took in another positive and in September still another > positive. Buzzy died in November of anemia, a common FeLV problem. I kept > all the negative cats up to date on their vaccines. In December of 2009 > Casper started sneezing quite a bit. He went through a round of antibiotics > and got better for a while but then the sneezing came back and he was on > meds again. Some time in February he just didn't seem like himself and I > took him to the vet again. That was when they decided to test him for > feline leukemia. He was positive, anemic and I lost him in April of 2010. > I am fairly sure he started out negative because whenever I bring another > cat into the household the first thing I do is take them to the vet to be > checked out. Others here have said that in spite of that he was probably > positive when I brought him into my home, but he spent about two years with > me before he was ever exposed to a FeLV+ cat. I believe that if I had never > mixed my positives and negative
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Man, I bet the vets love us... - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 6:46 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing MY VET ADVISED ME TO KEEP THE NEGATIVES SEPERATED UNTIL THEIR VACCINATION HAD TIME TO TAKE EFFECT. SINCE THEN, MY POSITIVES AND NEGATIVES ARE MIXED. COURSE, YOU HAVE TO KEEP UP TO DATE ON SHOTS FOR THE NEGATIVES, JUST TO BE SURE. ALL OF MY CHILDREN ARE DOING WELL. KEPING THEM APART IS SO STRESSFUL EXPECIALLY IF THERE IS ONLY ONE POSITIVE. I THINK THAT HURTS THEM MORE THAN LETTING THEM MIX. WE KEEP A CLOSE EYE ON EVERYONE AND WHEN SOMEONE ACTS A BIT DIFFERENT, OFF TO THE VET WE GO. THAT WAY WE CAN CATCH A PROBLEM BEFORE IT GETS TOO BIG. create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: Yes, it can be. Stress can also be damaging & was a big reason I chose to mix. At this point my negative cats are all 9-10 yrs old & have other medical issues which will probably get them way before FeLV or Vaccine sarcomas. Again, it is a personal choice which should not be made lightly. All the Info should be looked at & each person has to make the choice they know they can live with. Beth Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: "Michelle Brockman " Sender: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 23:31:49 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing Over vaccinating can also be damaging in its own right. Please everyone remember that. -Original Message- From: Beth Sent: 10/14/2010 11:16:48 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing I mixed my cats on the ADVICE OF MY VET. She vaccinated my negatives, including my FIV+ cat every 6 months. I had 5 negatives & 5 positives who shared everything. I even had one cat live for many months in one room with one of my negatives. All negative cats have been re-tested several times over the years & NONE have turned positive. Including my FIV cat, who obviously had a depressed immune system. He lived for many years after the FeLV cats passed away. I don't think I am a bad person for doing that. It was not a decision lightly reached & I took every initial precaution to make sure my negatives cats were protected. I would never tell someone to mix - that is a personal decision & should be discussed with a vet. Before I mixed any of my cats I got my negatives re-vaccinated, waited 3 weeks, got them boostered, waited another week, & then let them mix. Beth Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org<http://www.Furkids.org> --- On Wed, 10/13/10, Michelle Brockman wrote: From: Michelle Brockman Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org " Date: Wednesday, October 13, 2010, 11:54 PM I would like to add that the vaccines are NOT foolproof and do not have 100% efficacy. I have personally had 11 cats that I rescued with FeLv die a terrible death and would never expose a healthy non-positive cat to the virus knowingly, regardless of how many people may have been lucky with mixing so far. The virus can be spread through saliva which means continual shared eating and drinking quarters and grooming. It can also be passed on in litterboxes so it isn't just fighting you have to consider. I am a very positive person and love all animals regardless of their infliction but could never imagine why anyone would want to risk endangering their other pets, vaccine or not. -Original Message- From: Melinda Kerr Sent: 10/14/2010 1:37:27 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing I'm sorry for your loss. I've only had my Fuji for a little over a year and every time I think about losing her it breaks my heart. Thank you for sharing. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 14, 2010, at 9:08 AM, Frank & Sue Koren wrote: > I had 6 negative cats when Buzzy came to me. He tested positive in > January > of 2008. At that time Casper was about 4 years old. I had all my > positive > cats vaccinated and released Buzz into the general population in April > of > 2008. In July I took in another positive and in September still > another > positive. Buzzy died in November of anemia, a common FeLV problem. I > kept > all the negative cats up to date on their vaccines. In December of > 2009 > Casper started sneezing quite a bit. He went through a round of > antibiotics > and got better for a while but then the sneezing came back and he was > on > meds again. Some time in February he just didn't seem like himself and > I > took him to the vet again. That was when they decided to test him for > feline leukemia. He was positive, anemic and I lost him in April of > 2010. > I am fairly sure he started out negative because whenever I bring > another > cat into the household the firs
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MY VET ADVISED ME TO KEEP THE NEGATIVES SEPERATED UNTIL THEIR VACCINATION HAD TIME TO TAKE EFFECT. SINCE THEN, MY POSITIVES AND NEGATIVES ARE MIXED. COURSE, YOU HAVE TO KEEP UP TO DATE ON SHOTS FOR THE NEGATIVES, JUST TO BE SURE. ALL OF MY CHILDREN ARE DOING WELL. KEPING THEM APART IS SO STRESSFUL EXPECIALLY IF THERE IS ONLY ONE POSITIVE. I THINK THAT HURTS THEM MORE THAN LETTING THEM MIX. WE KEEP A CLOSE EYE ON EVERYONE AND WHEN SOMEONE ACTS A BIT DIFFERENT, OFF TO THE VET WE GO. THAT WAY WE CAN CATCH A PROBLEM BEFORE IT GETS TOO BIG. create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: > Yes, it can be. Stress can also be damaging & was a big reason I chose to mix. > At this point my negative cats are all 9-10 yrs old & have other medical > issues which will probably get them way before FeLV or Vaccine sarcomas. > Again, it is a personal choice which should not be made lightly. All the Info > should be looked at & each person has to make the choice they know they can > live with. > > Beth > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > -Original Message- > From: "Michelle Brockman " > Sender: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 23:31:49 > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing > > Over vaccinating can also be damaging in its own right. Please everyone > remember that. > > > -Original Message- > From: Beth > Sent: 10/14/2010 11:16:48 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing > I mixed my cats on the ADVICE OF MY VET. She vaccinated my negatives, > including my FIV+ cat every 6 months. I had 5 negatives & 5 positives who > shared everything. I even had one cat live for many months in one room with > one of my negatives. All negative cats have been re-tested several times over > the years & NONE have turned positive. Including my FIV cat, who obviously > had a depressed immune system. He lived for many years after the FeLV cats > passed away. > I don't think I am a bad person for doing that. It was not a decision lightly > reached & I took every initial precaution to make sure my negatives cats were > protected. > I would never tell someone to mix - that is a personal decision & should be > discussed with a vet. Before I mixed any of my cats I got my negatives > re-vaccinated, waited 3 weeks, got them boostered, waited another week, & > then let them mix. > Beth > Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org<http://www.Furkids.org> > > --- On Wed, 10/13/10, Michelle Brockman wrote: > > From: Michelle Brockman > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing > To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org " > Date: Wednesday, October 13, 2010, 11:54 PM > > I would like to add that the vaccines are NOT foolproof and do not have 100% > efficacy. I have personally had 11 cats that I rescued with FeLv die a > terrible death and would never expose a healthy non-positive cat to the virus > knowingly, regardless of how many people may have been lucky with mixing so > far. The virus can be spread through saliva which means continual shared > eating and drinking quarters and grooming. It can also be passed on in > litterboxes so it isn't just fighting you have to consider. I am a very > positive person and love all animals regardless of their infliction but could > never imagine why anyone would want to risk endangering their other pets, > vaccine or not. > > > -Original Message- > From: Melinda Kerr > Sent: 10/14/2010 1:37:27 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing > I'm sorry for your loss. I've only had my Fuji for a little over a year and > every time I think about losing her it breaks my heart. Thank you for sharing. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Oct 14, 2010, at 9:08 AM, Frank & Sue Koren wrote: > > > I had 6 negative cats when Buzzy came to me. He tested positive in January > > of 2008. At that time Casper was about 4 years old. I had all my positive > > cats vaccinated and released Buzz into the general population in April of > > 2008. In July I took in another positive and in September still another > > positive. Buzzy died in November of anemia, a common FeLV problem. I kept > > all the negative cats up to date on their vaccines. In December of 2009 > > Casper started sneezing quite a bit. He went through a round of antibiotics > > and got better for a while but then the sneezing came back and he was on > > meds again. Some time in February he just didn't seem like himself and I > > took him to the vet again. That was when they decided to test h
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Yes, it can be. Stress can also be damaging & was a big reason I chose to mix. At this point my negative cats are all 9-10 yrs old & have other medical issues which will probably get them way before FeLV or Vaccine sarcomas. Again, it is a personal choice which should not be made lightly. All the Info should be looked at & each person has to make the choice they know they can live with. Beth Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: "Michelle Brockman " Sender: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 23:31:49 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing Over vaccinating can also be damaging in its own right. Please everyone remember that. -Original Message- From: Beth Sent: 10/14/2010 11:16:48 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing I mixed my cats on the ADVICE OF MY VET. She vaccinated my negatives, including my FIV+ cat every 6 months. I had 5 negatives & 5 positives who shared everything. I even had one cat live for many months in one room with one of my negatives. All negative cats have been re-tested several times over the years & NONE have turned positive. Including my FIV cat, who obviously had a depressed immune system. He lived for many years after the FeLV cats passed away. I don't think I am a bad person for doing that. It was not a decision lightly reached & I took every initial precaution to make sure my negatives cats were protected. I would never tell someone to mix - that is a personal decision & should be discussed with a vet. Before I mixed any of my cats I got my negatives re-vaccinated, waited 3 weeks, got them boostered, waited another week, & then let them mix. Beth Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org<http://www.Furkids.org> --- On Wed, 10/13/10, Michelle Brockman wrote: From: Michelle Brockman Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org " Date: Wednesday, October 13, 2010, 11:54 PM I would like to add that the vaccines are NOT foolproof and do not have 100% efficacy. I have personally had 11 cats that I rescued with FeLv die a terrible death and would never expose a healthy non-positive cat to the virus knowingly, regardless of how many people may have been lucky with mixing so far. The virus can be spread through saliva which means continual shared eating and drinking quarters and grooming. It can also be passed on in litterboxes so it isn't just fighting you have to consider. I am a very positive person and love all animals regardless of their infliction but could never imagine why anyone would want to risk endangering their other pets, vaccine or not. -Original Message- From: Melinda Kerr Sent: 10/14/2010 1:37:27 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing I'm sorry for your loss. I've only had my Fuji for a little over a year and every time I think about losing her it breaks my heart. Thank you for sharing. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 14, 2010, at 9:08 AM, Frank & Sue Koren wrote: > I had 6 negative cats when Buzzy came to me. He tested positive in January > of 2008. At that time Casper was about 4 years old. I had all my positive > cats vaccinated and released Buzz into the general population in April of > 2008. In July I took in another positive and in September still another > positive. Buzzy died in November of anemia, a common FeLV problem. I kept > all the negative cats up to date on their vaccines. In December of 2009 > Casper started sneezing quite a bit. He went through a round of antibiotics > and got better for a while but then the sneezing came back and he was on > meds again. Some time in February he just didn't seem like himself and I > took him to the vet again. That was when they decided to test him for > feline leukemia. He was positive, anemic and I lost him in April of 2010. > I am fairly sure he started out negative because whenever I bring another > cat into the household the first thing I do is take them to the vet to be > checked out. Others here have said that in spite of that he was probably > positive when I brought him into my home, but he spent about two years with > me before he was ever exposed to a FeLV+ cat. I believe that if I had never > mixed my positives and negatives Casper would still be alive. > I'm sorry to be the one with the bad news, but it is better to understand > that there is a risk and that feline leukemia is a horrible and dangerous > disease. > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Melinda Kerr > Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 5:15 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] Mixing > > OK, I
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Yes, vaccines can be damaging. The stress of keeping the cats separated can be damaging as well. Stress on the cats was a big factor in me mixing mine. It is a choice you have to make - weigh your options, talk to your vet, talk to others & make the decision you are comfortable with. At this point my negative cats are all about 9-10 years old & have other medical issues which will probably get them 1st. If they get FeLV I am not going to feel horrible or second guess myself. If they get vaccine sarcomas I am not going to hate myself. They were all rescued from the streets & have all had lots of love & good lives. This is a decision I am comfortable with. Everyone has to make the informed decision they know they will not regret. Beth Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org --- On Thu, 10/14/10, Michelle Brockman wrote: From: Michelle Brockman Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org " Date: Thursday, October 14, 2010, 7:31 PM Over vaccinating can also be damaging in its own right. Please everyone remember that. -Original Message- From: Beth Sent: 10/14/2010 11:16:48 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing I mixed my cats on the ADVICE OF MY VET. She vaccinated my negatives, including my FIV+ cat every 6 months. I had 5 negatives & 5 positives who shared everything. I even had one cat live for many months in one room with one of my negatives. All negative cats have been re-tested several times over the years & NONE have turned positive. Including my FIV cat, who obviously had a depressed immune system. He lived for many years after the FeLV cats passed away. I don't think I am a bad person for doing that. It was not a decision lightly reached & I took every initial precaution to make sure my negatives cats were protected. I would never tell someone to mix - that is a personal decision & should be discussed with a vet. Before I mixed any of my cats I got my negatives re-vaccinated, waited 3 weeks, got them boostered, waited another week, & then let them mix. Beth Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org<http://www.Furkids.org> --- On Wed, 10/13/10, Michelle Brockman wrote: From: Michelle Brockman Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org " Date: Wednesday, October 13, 2010, 11:54 PM I would like to add that the vaccines are NOT foolproof and do not have 100% efficacy. I have personally had 11 cats that I rescued with FeLv die a terrible death and would never expose a healthy non-positive cat to the virus knowingly, regardless of how many people may have been lucky with mixing so far. The virus can be spread through saliva which means continual shared eating and drinking quarters and grooming. It can also be passed on in litterboxes so it isn't just fighting you have to consider. I am a very positive person and love all animals regardless of their infliction but could never imagine why anyone would want to risk endangering their other pets, vaccine or not. -Original Message- From: Melinda Kerr Sent: 10/14/2010 1:37:27 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing I'm sorry for your loss. I've only had my Fuji for a little over a year and every time I think about losing her it breaks my heart. Thank you for sharing. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 14, 2010, at 9:08 AM, Frank & Sue Koren wrote: > I had 6 negative cats when Buzzy came to me. He tested positive in January > of 2008. At that time Casper was about 4 years old. I had all my positive > cats vaccinated and released Buzz into the general population in April of > 2008. In July I took in another positive and in September still another > positive. Buzzy died in November of anemia, a common FeLV problem. I kept > all the negative cats up to date on their vaccines. In December of 2009 > Casper started sneezing quite a bit. He went through a round of antibiotics > and got better for a while but then the sneezing came back and he was on > meds again. Some time in February he just didn't seem like himself and I > took him to the vet again. That was when they decided to test him for > feline leukemia. He was positive, anemic and I lost him in April of 2010. > I am fairly sure he started out negative because whenever I bring another > cat into the household the first thing I do is take them to the vet to be > checked out. Others here have said that in spite of that he was probably > positive when I brought him into my home, but he spent about two years with > me before he was ever exposed to a FeLV+ cat. I believe that if I had never > mixed my positives and negatives Casper would still be alive. > I'm sorry to be the one with the bad news, but it is better to understand > that there is a risk and that feline leukemia is a horrible and
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Over vaccinating can also be damaging in its own right. Please everyone remember that. -Original Message- From: Beth Sent: 10/14/2010 11:16:48 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing I mixed my cats on the ADVICE OF MY VET. She vaccinated my negatives, including my FIV+ cat every 6 months. I had 5 negatives & 5 positives who shared everything. I even had one cat live for many months in one room with one of my negatives. All negative cats have been re-tested several times over the years & NONE have turned positive. Including my FIV cat, who obviously had a depressed immune system. He lived for many years after the FeLV cats passed away. I don't think I am a bad person for doing that. It was not a decision lightly reached & I took every initial precaution to make sure my negatives cats were protected. I would never tell someone to mix - that is a personal decision & should be discussed with a vet. Before I mixed any of my cats I got my negatives re-vaccinated, waited 3 weeks, got them boostered, waited another week, & then let them mix. Beth Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org<http://www.Furkids.org> --- On Wed, 10/13/10, Michelle Brockman wrote: From: Michelle Brockman Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org " Date: Wednesday, October 13, 2010, 11:54 PM I would like to add that the vaccines are NOT foolproof and do not have 100% efficacy. I have personally had 11 cats that I rescued with FeLv die a terrible death and would never expose a healthy non-positive cat to the virus knowingly, regardless of how many people may have been lucky with mixing so far. The virus can be spread through saliva which means continual shared eating and drinking quarters and grooming. It can also be passed on in litterboxes so it isn't just fighting you have to consider. I am a very positive person and love all animals regardless of their infliction but could never imagine why anyone would want to risk endangering their other pets, vaccine or not. -Original Message- From: Melinda Kerr Sent: 10/14/2010 1:37:27 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing I'm sorry for your loss. I've only had my Fuji for a little over a year and every time I think about losing her it breaks my heart. Thank you for sharing. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 14, 2010, at 9:08 AM, Frank & Sue Koren wrote: > I had 6 negative cats when Buzzy came to me. He tested positive in January > of 2008. At that time Casper was about 4 years old. I had all my positive > cats vaccinated and released Buzz into the general population in April of > 2008. In July I took in another positive and in September still another > positive. Buzzy died in November of anemia, a common FeLV problem. I kept > all the negative cats up to date on their vaccines. In December of 2009 > Casper started sneezing quite a bit. He went through a round of antibiotics > and got better for a while but then the sneezing came back and he was on > meds again. Some time in February he just didn't seem like himself and I > took him to the vet again. That was when they decided to test him for > feline leukemia. He was positive, anemic and I lost him in April of 2010. > I am fairly sure he started out negative because whenever I bring another > cat into the household the first thing I do is take them to the vet to be > checked out. Others here have said that in spite of that he was probably > positive when I brought him into my home, but he spent about two years with > me before he was ever exposed to a FeLV+ cat. I believe that if I had never > mixed my positives and negatives Casper would still be alive. > I'm sorry to be the one with the bad news, but it is better to understand > that there is a risk and that feline leukemia is a horrible and dangerous > disease. > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Melinda Kerr > Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 5:15 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] Mixing > > OK, I know I am going to get some really strong opinions on this one. > What I really want is positive feedback from people who have mixed positives > and negatives. My Fuji contacted her FeLV from her mom and it didn't show > up on her initial test. We did not know she was positive until a > mediastinal mass developed when she was almost a year old. She now receives > chemo and is doing really well. Since her first treatment in July, she has > never shown any signs of being sick. > > Today, I "rescued" a stray that I thought for certain would be positive. > However, the initial test was negative. I have the cats separated and > intend to vacci
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I mixed my cats on the ADVICE OF MY VET. She vaccinated my negatives, including my FIV+ cat every 6 months. I had 5 negatives & 5 positives who shared everything. I even had one cat live for many months in one room with one of my negatives. All negative cats have been re-tested several times over the years & NONE have turned positive. Including my FIV cat, who obviously had a depressed immune system. He lived for many years after the FeLV cats passed away. I don't think I am a bad person for doing that. It was not a decision lightly reached & I took every initial precaution to make sure my negatives cats were protected. I would never tell someone to mix - that is a personal decision & should be discussed with a vet. Before I mixed any of my cats I got my negatives re-vaccinated, waited 3 weeks, got them boostered, waited another week, & then let them mix. Beth Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org --- On Wed, 10/13/10, Michelle Brockman wrote: From: Michelle Brockman Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org " Date: Wednesday, October 13, 2010, 11:54 PM I would like to add that the vaccines are NOT foolproof and do not have 100% efficacy. I have personally had 11 cats that I rescued with FeLv die a terrible death and would never expose a healthy non-positive cat to the virus knowingly, regardless of how many people may have been lucky with mixing so far. The virus can be spread through saliva which means continual shared eating and drinking quarters and grooming. It can also be passed on in litterboxes so it isn't just fighting you have to consider. I am a very positive person and love all animals regardless of their infliction but could never imagine why anyone would want to risk endangering their other pets, vaccine or not. -Original Message- From: Melinda Kerr Sent: 10/14/2010 1:37:27 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing I'm sorry for your loss. I've only had my Fuji for a little over a year and every time I think about losing her it breaks my heart. Thank you for sharing. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 14, 2010, at 9:08 AM, Frank & Sue Koren wrote: > I had 6 negative cats when Buzzy came to me. He tested positive in January > of 2008. At that time Casper was about 4 years old. I had all my positive > cats vaccinated and released Buzz into the general population in April of > 2008. In July I took in another positive and in September still another > positive. Buzzy died in November of anemia, a common FeLV problem. I kept > all the negative cats up to date on their vaccines. In December of 2009 > Casper started sneezing quite a bit. He went through a round of antibiotics > and got better for a while but then the sneezing came back and he was on > meds again. Some time in February he just didn't seem like himself and I > took him to the vet again. That was when they decided to test him for > feline leukemia. He was positive, anemic and I lost him in April of 2010. > I am fairly sure he started out negative because whenever I bring another > cat into the household the first thing I do is take them to the vet to be > checked out. Others here have said that in spite of that he was probably > positive when I brought him into my home, but he spent about two years with > me before he was ever exposed to a FeLV+ cat. I believe that if I had never > mixed my positives and negatives Casper would still be alive. > I'm sorry to be the one with the bad news, but it is better to understand > that there is a risk and that feline leukemia is a horrible and dangerous > disease. > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Melinda Kerr > Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 5:15 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] Mixing > > OK, I know I am going to get some really strong opinions on this one. > What I really want is positive feedback from people who have mixed positives > and negatives. My Fuji contacted her FeLV from her mom and it didn't show > up on her initial test. We did not know she was positive until a > mediastinal mass developed when she was almost a year old. She now receives > chemo and is doing really well. Since her first treatment in July, she has > never shown any signs of being sick. > > Today, I "rescued" a stray that I thought for certain would be positive. > However, the initial test was negative. I have the cats separated and > intend to vaccinate as soon as one of my vets gets the vaccine in. They > have been introduced to each other and seem as though they will get along > quite well. Fuji is not a fighter and I cannot see her biting him. Neither > of my vets seem to thin
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I have to say my experience is pretty much the same as Terrie's. With my first FeLV kitties, Calawalla Banana Booboo and Mr Black Kitty, I was pretty paranoid. I think it was 2001. But even the vet reassured mr that the virus wasn't that contagious. I relaxed a bit. At some point I decided to mix and have never had a problem. My friend Susan - we're in the same rescue - has the same experience. Gloria Little Rock, Ar Sent from my iPhone On Oct 14, 2010, at 10:30 AM, wrote: > Melinda, > Well, this is my opinion and experience with having FELV kitties in the past > but don't any now. > My first personal experience was back in mid part of1999 I got a kitten that > I named Taz was FELV and he died in January 2002. He had it in his bone > marrow. He died from secondary illnesses. > Spent a lot of money on him to try and save him money was not a factor. My > husband and I didn't care did whatever it took. > Anyway, I had other personal kitties both young and older adults that lived > with this kitten up to his passing. They played, ate, shared litter boxes, > bathe, and slept together during this time. My other kitties were vaccinated > every year and some were not this was due to the age since I had a few > seniors at the time when they passed they did not die of FELV. I have to say > no one tested positive during and after he died. I lost my eldest cat back in > March of 2010 that personally took care of Taz when he was alive. She did not > die of FELV. She was 21 years old and went into kidney failure. I was with > her when she died. > My conclusion is that no one came down with FELV. > > So I guess my point is it is you that can make the decision of whether you > want to mix or not. > There are some of us on this group that do mix and some that do not. > I do not have the fear of having a FELV kitty and mixing with my personal > cats. > > In rescue I do not mix this is for safety reasons. > > TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS/SIAMESE & COLLIE RESCUE > Sultan, WA. 98294 > Terrie Mohr-Forker > http://tazzys.org/ > Non-Profit national rescue > Dedicated to the welfare of animals. > > Copyright © 1999-2010 tazzys.org. All rights reserved. > > > Original Message > Subject: [Felvtalk] Mixing > From: Melinda Kerr > Date: Wed, October 13, 2010 2:14 am > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > OK, I know I am going to get some really strong opinions on this one. What > I really want is positive feedback from people who have mixed positives and > negatives. My Fuji contacted her FeLV from her mom and it didn't show up on > her initial test. We did not know she was positive until a mediastinal mass > developed when she was almost a year old. She now receives chemo and is > doing really well. Since her first treatment in July, she has never shown any > signs of being sick. > > Today, I "rescued" a stray that I thought for certain would be positive. > However, the initial test was negative. I have the cats separated and intend > to vaccinate as soon as one of my vets gets the vaccine in. They have been > introduced to each other and seem as though they will get along quite well. > Fuji is not a fighter and I cannot see her biting him. Neither of my vets > seem to think that mixing them will be a problem. > > I read the old threads and saw that many of you have mixed with great > results. I did not see any stories of mixing where a vaccinated negative > became positive. I'm looking for stories of success or failure. Please > share your stories! > > Thanks, > Melinda, Fuji and Shadow > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Thank you Tazzy for your positive story. We are already so attached and I am so torn. I certainly don't want to make this sweet baby sick! I believe that Shadow (our current name choice may change!) chose us for a reason! My husband never would have considered another cat if this one hadn't called out to him while we were taking a walk. I waited 2 full days before checking to see if the police had picked him up. Sure enough he was. I don't know why I knew it was meant to be, but it definitely was. Fuji is really curious about him and I believe they will be good friends. I plan to take every precaution including separate litter boxes and food bowls until he is older. Thank you all for your stories of mixing. Melinda, Fuji and Shadow On 15 Oct, 2010,at 12:30 AM, ter...@tazzys.org wrote: Melinda, Well, this is my opinion and experience with having FELV kitties in the past but don't any now. My first personal experience was back in mid part of1999 I got a kitten that I named Taz was FELV and he died in January 2002. He had it in his bone marrow. He died from secondary illnesses. Spent a lot of money on him to try and save him money was not a factor. My husband and I didn't care did whatever it took. Anyway, I had other personal kitties both young and older adults that lived with this kitten up to his passing. They played, ate, shared litter boxes, bathe, and slept together during this time. My other kitties were vaccinated every year and some were not this was due to the age since I had a few seniors at the time when they passed they did not die of FELV. I have to say no one tested positive during and after he died. I lost my eldest cat back in March of 2010 that personally took care of Taz when he was alive. She did not die of FELV. She was 21 years old and went into kidney failure. I was with her when she died. My conclusion is that no one came down with FELV. So I guess my point is it is you that can make the decision of whether you want to mix or not. There are some of us on this group that do mix and some that do not. I do not have the fear of having a FELV kitty and mixing with my personal cats. In rescue I do not mix this is for safety reasons. TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS/SIAMESE & COLLIE RESCUE Sultan, WA. 98294 Terrie Mohr-Forker http://tazzys.org/ Non-Profit national rescue Dedicated to the welfare of animals. Copyright © 1999-2010 tazzys.org. All rights reserved. Original Message Subject: [Felvtalk] Mixing From: Melinda Kerr Date: Wed, October 13, 2010 2:14 am To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org OK, I know I am going to get some really strong opinions on this one. What I really want is positive feedback from people who have mixed positives and negatives. My Fuji contacted her FeLV from her mom and it didn't show up on her initial test. We did not know she was positive until a mediastinal mass developed when she was almost a year old. She now receives chemo and is doing really well. Since her first treatment in July, she has never shown any signs of being sick. Today, I "rescued" a stray that I thought for certain would be positive. However, the initial test was negative. I have the cats separated and intend to vaccinate as soon as one of my vets gets the vaccine in. They have been introduced to each other and seem as though they will get along quite well. Fuji is not a fighter and I cannot see her biting him. Neither of my vets seem to think that mixing them will be a problem. I read the old threads and saw that many of you have mixed with great results. I did not see any stories of mixing where a vaccinated negative became positive. I'm looking for stories of success or failure. Please share your stories! Thanks, Melinda, Fuji and Shadow ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I agree, my vet told us we could try the vaccine, but it would be best to get another felv cat. They refer the shot to people who already have more than one cat in there household and find out that one is infected.. so they don't have to rid of any there pets, but if you can save another felv why not? From: Natalie To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thu, October 14, 2010 2:18:35 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing I think everyone must understand that ANY vaccine is at best only 80% effective! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Michelle Brockman Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 11:54 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing I would like to add that the vaccines are NOT foolproof and do not have 100% efficacy. I have personally had 11 cats that I rescued with FeLv die a terrible death and would never expose a healthy non-positive cat to the virus knowingly, regardless of how many people may have been lucky with mixing so far. The virus can be spread through saliva which means continual shared eating and drinking quarters and grooming. It can also be passed on in litterboxes so it isn't just fighting you have to consider. I am a very positive person and love all animals regardless of their infliction but could never imagine why anyone would want to risk endangering their other pets, vaccine or not. -Original Message- From: Melinda Kerr Sent: 10/14/2010 1:37:27 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing I'm sorry for your loss. I've only had my Fuji for a little over a year and every time I think about losing her it breaks my heart. Thank you for sharing. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 14, 2010, at 9:08 AM, Frank & Sue Koren wrote: > I had 6 negative cats when Buzzy came to me. He tested positive in January > of 2008. At that time Casper was about 4 years old. I had all my positive > cats vaccinated and released Buzz into the general population in April of > 2008. In July I took in another positive and in September still another > positive. Buzzy died in November of anemia, a common FeLV problem. I kept > all the negative cats up to date on their vaccines. In December of 2009 > Casper started sneezing quite a bit. He went through a round of antibiotics > and got better for a while but then the sneezing came back and he was on > meds again. Some time in February he just didn't seem like himself and I > took him to the vet again. That was when they decided to test him for > feline leukemia. He was positive, anemic and I lost him in April of 2010. > I am fairly sure he started out negative because whenever I bring another > cat into the household the first thing I do is take them to the vet to be > checked out. Others here have said that in spite of that he was probably > positive when I brought him into my home, but he spent about two years with > me before he was ever exposed to a FeLV+ cat. I believe that if I had never > mixed my positives and negatives Casper would still be alive. > I'm sorry to be the one with the bad news, but it is better to understand > that there is a risk and that feline leukemia is a horrible and dangerous > disease. > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Melinda Kerr > Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 5:15 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] Mixing > > OK, I know I am going to get some really strong opinions on this one. > What I really want is positive feedback from people who have mixed positives > and negatives. My Fuji contacted her FeLV from her mom and it didn't show > up on her initial test. We did not know she was positive until a > mediastinal mass developed when she was almost a year old. She now receives > chemo and is doing really well. Since her first treatment in July, she has > never shown any signs of being sick. > > Today, I "rescued" a stray that I thought for certain would be positive. > However, the initial test was negative. I have the cats separated and > intend to vaccinate as soon as one of my vets gets the vaccine in. They > have been introduced to each other and seem as though they will get along > quite well. Fuji is not a fighter and I cannot see her biting him. Neither > of my vets seem to think that mixing them will be a problem. > > I read the old threads and saw that many of you have mixed with great > results. I did not see any stories of mixing where a vaccinated negative > became positive. I'm looking for stories of success or failure. Please > share your stories! > > Thanks, &g
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I think everyone must understand that ANY vaccine is at best only 80% effective! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Michelle Brockman Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 11:54 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing I would like to add that the vaccines are NOT foolproof and do not have 100% efficacy. I have personally had 11 cats that I rescued with FeLv die a terrible death and would never expose a healthy non-positive cat to the virus knowingly, regardless of how many people may have been lucky with mixing so far. The virus can be spread through saliva which means continual shared eating and drinking quarters and grooming. It can also be passed on in litterboxes so it isn't just fighting you have to consider. I am a very positive person and love all animals regardless of their infliction but could never imagine why anyone would want to risk endangering their other pets, vaccine or not. -Original Message- From: Melinda Kerr Sent: 10/14/2010 1:37:27 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing I'm sorry for your loss. I've only had my Fuji for a little over a year and every time I think about losing her it breaks my heart. Thank you for sharing. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 14, 2010, at 9:08 AM, Frank & Sue Koren wrote: > I had 6 negative cats when Buzzy came to me. He tested positive in January > of 2008. At that time Casper was about 4 years old. I had all my positive > cats vaccinated and released Buzz into the general population in April of > 2008. In July I took in another positive and in September still another > positive. Buzzy died in November of anemia, a common FeLV problem. I kept > all the negative cats up to date on their vaccines. In December of 2009 > Casper started sneezing quite a bit. He went through a round of antibiotics > and got better for a while but then the sneezing came back and he was on > meds again. Some time in February he just didn't seem like himself and I > took him to the vet again. That was when they decided to test him for > feline leukemia. He was positive, anemic and I lost him in April of 2010. > I am fairly sure he started out negative because whenever I bring another > cat into the household the first thing I do is take them to the vet to be > checked out. Others here have said that in spite of that he was probably > positive when I brought him into my home, but he spent about two years with > me before he was ever exposed to a FeLV+ cat. I believe that if I had never > mixed my positives and negatives Casper would still be alive. > I'm sorry to be the one with the bad news, but it is better to understand > that there is a risk and that feline leukemia is a horrible and dangerous > disease. > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Melinda Kerr > Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 5:15 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] Mixing > > OK, I know I am going to get some really strong opinions on this one. > What I really want is positive feedback from people who have mixed positives > and negatives. My Fuji contacted her FeLV from her mom and it didn't show > up on her initial test. We did not know she was positive until a > mediastinal mass developed when she was almost a year old. She now receives > chemo and is doing really well. Since her first treatment in July, she has > never shown any signs of being sick. > > Today, I "rescued" a stray that I thought for certain would be positive. > However, the initial test was negative. I have the cats separated and > intend to vaccinate as soon as one of my vets gets the vaccine in. They > have been introduced to each other and seem as though they will get along > quite well. Fuji is not a fighter and I cannot see her biting him. Neither > of my vets seem to think that mixing them will be a problem. > > I read the old threads and saw that many of you have mixed with great > results. I did not see any stories of mixing where a vaccinated negative > became positive. I'm looking for stories of success or failure. Please > share your stories! > > Thanks, > Melinda, Fuji and Shadow > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@f
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Melinda Beautiful story, thank you. I'm beginning to think each FeLV case is a little different -- maybe varying degrees of infection, or locale of infection, I don't know. My mantra is, "better safe than sorry." You obviously loved Taz very much. My condolensces on his passing. I too once had a 21 year old cat who was an amazing kitty. May all our cats live to 21 -- or longer! ~Bonnie - Original Message - From: ter...@tazzys.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 8:30 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing Melinda, Well, this is my opinion and experience with having FELV kitties in the past but don't any now. My first personal experience was back in mid part of1999 I got a kitten that I named Taz was FELV and he died in January 2002. He had it in his bone marrow. He died from secondary illnesses. Spent a lot of money on him to try and save him money was not a factor. My husband and I didn't care did whatever it took. Anyway, I had other personal kitties both young and older adults that lived with this kitten up to his passing. They played, ate, shared litter boxes, bathe, and slept together during this time. My other kitties were vaccinated every year and some were not this was due to the age since I had a few seniors at the time when they passed they did not die of FELV. I have to say no one tested positive during and after he died. I lost my eldest cat back in March of 2010 that personally took care of Taz when he was alive. She did not die of FELV. She was 21 years old and went into kidney failure. I was with her when she died. My conclusion is that no one came down with FELV. So I guess my point is it is you that can make the decision of whether you want to mix or not. There are some of us on this group that do mix and some that do not. I do not have the fear of having a FELV kitty and mixing with my personal cats. In rescue I do not mix this is for safety reasons. TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS/SIAMESE & COLLIE RESCUE Sultan, WA. 98294 Terrie Mohr-Forker http://tazzys.org/ Non-Profit national rescue Dedicated to the welfare of animals. Copyright © 1999-2010 tazzys.org. All rights reserved. Original Message Subject: [Felvtalk] Mixing From: Melinda Kerr Date: Wed, October 13, 2010 2:14 am To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org OK, I know I am going to get some really strong opinions on this one. What I really want is positive feedback from people who have mixed positives and negatives. My Fuji contacted her FeLV from her mom and it didn't show up on her initial test. We did not know she was positive until a mediastinal mass developed when she was almost a year old. She now receives chemo and is doing really well. Since her first treatment in July, she has never shown any signs of being sick. Today, I "rescued" a stray that I thought for certain would be positive. However, the initial test was negative. I have the cats separated and intend to vaccinate as soon as one of my vets gets the vaccine in. They have been introduced to each other and seem as though they will get along quite well. Fuji is not a fighter and I cannot see her biting him. Neither of my vets seem to think that mixing them will be a problem. I read the old threads and saw that many of you have mixed with great results. I did not see any stories of mixing where a vaccinated negative became positive. I'm looking for stories of success or failure. Please share your stories! Thanks, Melinda, Fuji and Shadow ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Melinda, Well, this is my opinion and experience with having FELV kitties in the past but don't any now. My first personal experience was back in mid part of1999 I got a kitten that I named Taz was FELV and he died in January 2002. He had it in his bone marrow. He died from secondary illnesses. Spent a lot of money on him to try and save him money was not a factor. My husband and I didn't care did whatever it took. Anyway, I had other personal kitties both young and older adults that lived with this kitten up to his passing. They played, ate, shared litter boxes, bathe, and slept together during this time. My other kitties were vaccinated every year and some were not this was due to the age since I had a few seniors at the time when they passed they did not die of FELV. I have to say no one tested positive during and after he died. I lost my eldest cat back in March of 2010 that personally took care of Taz when he was alive. She did not die of FELV. She was 21 years old and went into kidney failure. I was with her when she died. My conclusion is that no one came down with FELV. So I guess my point is it is you that can make the decision of whether you want to mix or not. There are some of us on this group that do mix and some that do not. I do not have the fear of having a FELV kitty and mixing with my personal cats. In rescue I do not mix this is for safety reasons. TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS/SIAMESE & COLLIE RESCUESultan, WA. 98294Terrie Mohr-Forkerhttp://tazzys.org/Non-Profit national rescue Dedicated to the welfare of animals. Copyright © 1999-2010 tazzys.org. All rights reserved. Original Message Subject: [Felvtalk] MixingFrom: Melinda KerrDate: Wed, October 13, 2010 2:14 amTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgOK, I know I am going to get some really strong opinions on this one. What I really want is positive feedback from people who have mixed positives and negatives. My Fuji contacted her FeLV from her mom and it didn't show up on her initial test. We did not know she was positive until a mediastinal mass developed when she was almost a year old. She now receives chemo and is doing really well. Since her first treatment in July, she has never shown any signs of being sick. Today, I "rescued" a stray that I thought for certain would be positive. However, the initial test was negative. I have the cats separated and intend to vaccinate as soon as one of my vets gets the vaccine in. They have been introduced to each other and seem as though they will get along quite well. Fuji is not a fighter and I cannot see her biting him. Neither of my vets seem to think that mixing them will be a problem. I read the old threads and saw that many of you have mixed with great results. I did not see any stories of mixing where a vaccinated negative became positive. I'm looking for stories of success or failure. Please share your stories!Thanks,Melinda, Fuji and Shadow___Felvtalk mailing listFelvtalk@felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I would like to add that the vaccines are NOT foolproof and do not have 100% efficacy. I have personally had 11 cats that I rescued with FeLv die a terrible death and would never expose a healthy non-positive cat to the virus knowingly, regardless of how many people may have been lucky with mixing so far. The virus can be spread through saliva which means continual shared eating and drinking quarters and grooming. It can also be passed on in litterboxes so it isn't just fighting you have to consider. I am a very positive person and love all animals regardless of their infliction but could never imagine why anyone would want to risk endangering their other pets, vaccine or not. -Original Message- From: Melinda Kerr Sent: 10/14/2010 1:37:27 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing I'm sorry for your loss. I've only had my Fuji for a little over a year and every time I think about losing her it breaks my heart. Thank you for sharing. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 14, 2010, at 9:08 AM, Frank & Sue Koren wrote: > I had 6 negative cats when Buzzy came to me. He tested positive in January > of 2008. At that time Casper was about 4 years old. I had all my positive > cats vaccinated and released Buzz into the general population in April of > 2008. In July I took in another positive and in September still another > positive. Buzzy died in November of anemia, a common FeLV problem. I kept > all the negative cats up to date on their vaccines. In December of 2009 > Casper started sneezing quite a bit. He went through a round of antibiotics > and got better for a while but then the sneezing came back and he was on > meds again. Some time in February he just didn't seem like himself and I > took him to the vet again. That was when they decided to test him for > feline leukemia. He was positive, anemic and I lost him in April of 2010. > I am fairly sure he started out negative because whenever I bring another > cat into the household the first thing I do is take them to the vet to be > checked out. Others here have said that in spite of that he was probably > positive when I brought him into my home, but he spent about two years with > me before he was ever exposed to a FeLV+ cat. I believe that if I had never > mixed my positives and negatives Casper would still be alive. > I'm sorry to be the one with the bad news, but it is better to understand > that there is a risk and that feline leukemia is a horrible and dangerous > disease. > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Melinda Kerr > Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 5:15 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] Mixing > > OK, I know I am going to get some really strong opinions on this one. > What I really want is positive feedback from people who have mixed positives > and negatives. My Fuji contacted her FeLV from her mom and it didn't show > up on her initial test. We did not know she was positive until a > mediastinal mass developed when she was almost a year old. She now receives > chemo and is doing really well. Since her first treatment in July, she has > never shown any signs of being sick. > > Today, I "rescued" a stray that I thought for certain would be positive. > However, the initial test was negative. I have the cats separated and > intend to vaccinate as soon as one of my vets gets the vaccine in. They > have been introduced to each other and seem as though they will get along > quite well. Fuji is not a fighter and I cannot see her biting him. Neither > of my vets seem to think that mixing them will be a problem. > > I read the old threads and saw that many of you have mixed with great > results. I did not see any stories of mixing where a vaccinated negative > became positive. I'm looking for stories of success or failure. Please > share your stories! > > Thanks, > Melinda, Fuji and Shadow > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I'm sorry for your loss. I've only had my Fuji for a little over a year and every time I think about losing her it breaks my heart. Thank you for sharing. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 14, 2010, at 9:08 AM, Frank & Sue Koren wrote: > I had 6 negative cats when Buzzy came to me. He tested positive in January > of 2008. At that time Casper was about 4 years old. I had all my positive > cats vaccinated and released Buzz into the general population in April of > 2008. In July I took in another positive and in September still another > positive. Buzzy died in November of anemia, a common FeLV problem. I kept > all the negative cats up to date on their vaccines. In December of 2009 > Casper started sneezing quite a bit. He went through a round of antibiotics > and got better for a while but then the sneezing came back and he was on > meds again. Some time in February he just didn't seem like himself and I > took him to the vet again. That was when they decided to test him for > feline leukemia. He was positive, anemic and I lost him in April of 2010. > I am fairly sure he started out negative because whenever I bring another > cat into the household the first thing I do is take them to the vet to be > checked out. Others here have said that in spite of that he was probably > positive when I brought him into my home, but he spent about two years with > me before he was ever exposed to a FeLV+ cat. I believe that if I had never > mixed my positives and negatives Casper would still be alive. > I'm sorry to be the one with the bad news, but it is better to understand > that there is a risk and that feline leukemia is a horrible and dangerous > disease. > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Melinda Kerr > Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 5:15 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] Mixing > > OK, I know I am going to get some really strong opinions on this one. > What I really want is positive feedback from people who have mixed positives > and negatives. My Fuji contacted her FeLV from her mom and it didn't show > up on her initial test. We did not know she was positive until a > mediastinal mass developed when she was almost a year old. She now receives > chemo and is doing really well. Since her first treatment in July, she has > never shown any signs of being sick. > > Today, I "rescued" a stray that I thought for certain would be positive. > However, the initial test was negative. I have the cats separated and > intend to vaccinate as soon as one of my vets gets the vaccine in. They > have been introduced to each other and seem as though they will get along > quite well. Fuji is not a fighter and I cannot see her biting him. Neither > of my vets seem to think that mixing them will be a problem. > > I read the old threads and saw that many of you have mixed with great > results. I did not see any stories of mixing where a vaccinated negative > became positive. I'm looking for stories of success or failure. Please > share your stories! > > Thanks, > Melinda, Fuji and Shadow > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I had 6 negative cats when Buzzy came to me. He tested positive in January of 2008. At that time Casper was about 4 years old. I had all my positive cats vaccinated and released Buzz into the general population in April of 2008. In July I took in another positive and in September still another positive. Buzzy died in November of anemia, a common FeLV problem. I kept all the negative cats up to date on their vaccines. In December of 2009 Casper started sneezing quite a bit. He went through a round of antibiotics and got better for a while but then the sneezing came back and he was on meds again. Some time in February he just didn't seem like himself and I took him to the vet again. That was when they decided to test him for feline leukemia. He was positive, anemic and I lost him in April of 2010. I am fairly sure he started out negative because whenever I bring another cat into the household the first thing I do is take them to the vet to be checked out. Others here have said that in spite of that he was probably positive when I brought him into my home, but he spent about two years with me before he was ever exposed to a FeLV+ cat. I believe that if I had never mixed my positives and negatives Casper would still be alive. I'm sorry to be the one with the bad news, but it is better to understand that there is a risk and that feline leukemia is a horrible and dangerous disease. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Melinda Kerr Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 5:15 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Mixing OK, I know I am going to get some really strong opinions on this one. What I really want is positive feedback from people who have mixed positives and negatives. My Fuji contacted her FeLV from her mom and it didn't show up on her initial test. We did not know she was positive until a mediastinal mass developed when she was almost a year old. She now receives chemo and is doing really well. Since her first treatment in July, she has never shown any signs of being sick. Today, I "rescued" a stray that I thought for certain would be positive. However, the initial test was negative. I have the cats separated and intend to vaccinate as soon as one of my vets gets the vaccine in. They have been introduced to each other and seem as though they will get along quite well. Fuji is not a fighter and I cannot see her biting him. Neither of my vets seem to think that mixing them will be a problem. I read the old threads and saw that many of you have mixed with great results. I did not see any stories of mixing where a vaccinated negative became positive. I'm looking for stories of success or failure. Please share your stories! Thanks, Melinda, Fuji and Shadow ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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This is very interesting... I have been isolating Lucky, my mom's cat, for 4 weeks now. I let him out of his room to sniff the house and let the other cat see him. It is mostly going well (but he hates being stuck inside). I am having him retested next Monday, which will be 5 weeks from the original test. I'm asking for the IFA (?) test this time. If he is positive, I am going to have a mobile vet come in and vaccinate my 3 adult cats before he can integrate. If he is negative, he'll be immediately released from his isolation. Either way, they will all eventually have to live together. Reading your story gives me confirmation on my idea. I guess more isolation is better than not enough, even if Lucky doesn't like it! ~Bonnie - Original Message - From: "Beth Noren" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 5:54 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing I rescued a litter of 5, 1 tested positive and was quarantined, and died of FIP at 12 weeks old. One of the "negatives" became sick soon after, was retested, and he was now positive. He had no contact with his sick sister between tests. I began to get his negative siblings vaccinated, but did not seperate them from their remaining positive sibling, as they had already been exposed anyway. I did keep the whole group seperate from my original adult cat. I didn't let them mix with her for many months, not until the vaccine had been boostered and and another FeLV test had been done. The positive remained positive for the 3.5 years I had him, and the negatives have remained negative. Best wishes, Beth ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Melinda, mixing is an individual decision. I had negative kitties when I first started rescuing kittens in 2007. 2 of the first 3 were positive. Once the negative was current on the vaccine (original shot and booster 30 days later) I mixed mine with no ill effects. I had a total of 6 positive indoors with my negatives. The positives are all gone now and my negatives are still negative. Other than Stormie all my negatives were adults. Age seems to make a difference. Adult cats seem to have a natural immunity whereas kittens seem to be more susceptible. Stormie was approx. 16 weeks old when I rescued her and the vaccine did protect her. She is now a very healthy 4 yo. Sharyl --- On Wed, 10/13/10, Melinda Kerr wrote: > From: Melinda Kerr > Subject: [Felvtalk] Mixing > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Wednesday, October 13, 2010, 5:14 AM > OK, I know I am going to get some > really strong opinions on this one. What I really want is > positive feedback from people who have mixed positives and > negatives. My Fuji contacted her FeLV from her mom and it > didn't show up on her initial test. We did not know she > was positive until a mediastinal mass developed when she was > almost a year old. She now receives chemo and is doing > really well. Since her first treatment in July, she has > never shown any signs of being sick. > > Today, I "rescued" a stray that I thought for certain would > be positive. However, the initial test was negative. I > have the cats separated and intend to vaccinate as soon as > one of my vets gets the vaccine in. They have been > introduced to each other and seem as though they will get > along quite well. Fuji is not a fighter and I cannot see > her biting him. Neither of my vets seem to think that > mixing them will be a problem. > > I read the old threads and saw that many of you have mixed > with great results. I did not see any stories of mixing > where a vaccinated negative became positive. I'm looking > for stories of success or failure. Please share your > stories! > > Thanks, > Melinda, Fuji and Shadow > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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It all seems as though fate has hand, doesn't it? Thank you for the response. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 13, 2010, at 9:54 PM, Beth Noren wrote: > I rescued a litter of 5, 1 tested positive and was quarantined, and > died of FIP at 12 weeks old. One of the "negatives" became sick soon > after, was retested, and he was now positive. He had no contact with > his sick sister between tests. I began to get his negative siblings > vaccinated, but did not seperate them from their remaining positive > sibling, as they had already been exposed anyway. I did keep the > whole group seperate from my original adult cat. I didn't let them > mix with her for many months, not until the vaccine had been boostered > and and another FeLV test had been done. The positive remained > positive for the 3.5 years I had him, and the negatives have remained > negative. > > Best wishes, > Beth > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I rescued a litter of 5, 1 tested positive and was quarantined, and died of FIP at 12 weeks old. One of the "negatives" became sick soon after, was retested, and he was now positive. He had no contact with his sick sister between tests. I began to get his negative siblings vaccinated, but did not seperate them from their remaining positive sibling, as they had already been exposed anyway. I did keep the whole group seperate from my original adult cat. I didn't let them mix with her for many months, not until the vaccine had been boostered and and another FeLV test had been done. The positive remained positive for the 3.5 years I had him, and the negatives have remained negative. Best wishes, Beth ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Thank you. I was hoping to hear it would be ok. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 13, 2010, at 6:19 PM, Pat Kachur wrote: > When I adopted my Mandy, I had six other kitties. When I found (the day > after I picked her up) that she was positive, I did keep her separated from > the other six until I got all their vaccinations up to date. After that, per > my vet's opinion/advice, I let them all interact. Mandy passed away about 2 > years later but no one else has gotten sick (and Mandy's been gone for a year > now). > > Pat > - Original Message - From: "Melinda Kerr" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 5:14 AM > Subject: [Felvtalk] Mixing > > > OK, I know I am going to get some really strong opinions on this one. What I > really want is positive feedback from people who have mixed positives and > negatives. My Fuji contacted her FeLV from her mom and it didn't show up on > her initial test. We did not know she was positive until a mediastinal mass > developed when she was almost a year old. She now receives chemo and is doing > really well. Since her first treatment in July, she has never shown any signs > of being sick. > > Today, I "rescued" a stray that I thought for certain would be positive. > However, the initial test was negative. I have the cats separated and intend > to vaccinate as soon as one of my vets gets the vaccine in. They have been > introduced to each other and seem as though they will get along quite well. > Fuji is not a fighter and I cannot see her biting him. Neither of my vets > seem to think that mixing them will be a problem. > > I read the old threads and saw that many of you have mixed with great > results. I did not see any stories of mixing where a vaccinated negative > became positive. I'm looking for stories of success or failure. Please share > your stories! > > Thanks, > Melinda, Fuji and Shadow > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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When I adopted my Mandy, I had six other kitties. When I found (the day after I picked her up) that she was positive, I did keep her separated from the other six until I got all their vaccinations up to date. After that, per my vet's opinion/advice, I let them all interact. Mandy passed away about 2 years later but no one else has gotten sick (and Mandy's been gone for a year now). Pat - Original Message - From: "Melinda Kerr" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 5:14 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Mixing OK, I know I am going to get some really strong opinions on this one. What I really want is positive feedback from people who have mixed positives and negatives. My Fuji contacted her FeLV from her mom and it didn't show up on her initial test. We did not know she was positive until a mediastinal mass developed when she was almost a year old. She now receives chemo and is doing really well. Since her first treatment in July, she has never shown any signs of being sick. Today, I "rescued" a stray that I thought for certain would be positive. However, the initial test was negative. I have the cats separated and intend to vaccinate as soon as one of my vets gets the vaccine in. They have been introduced to each other and seem as though they will get along quite well. Fuji is not a fighter and I cannot see her biting him. Neither of my vets seem to think that mixing them will be a problem. I read the old threads and saw that many of you have mixed with great results. I did not see any stories of mixing where a vaccinated negative became positive. I'm looking for stories of success or failure. Please share your stories! Thanks, Melinda, Fuji and Shadow ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 3:23 PM, MaryChristine wrote: > i'll look it up in the morning, but i've NEVER seen a figure higher than > about 6%--incidence of FIV is very low too. > > it's VERY misleading when they keep saying that FIV and FeLV are the most > common fatal viruses affecting cats. "most common" is just not the same > thing as "common..." or widespread! > > > On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Gloria B. Lane wrote: > >> MC what is the incidence of FELV, do you have any info on that? >> >> Gloria >> >> -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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i'll tell you offlist. stalkers and all, you know. On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Belinda Sauro wrote: > Hey MC, where are you moving to? > > -- > > Belinda > happiness is being owned by cats ... > > http://bemikitties.com > > http://BelindaSauro.com > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Re: [Felvtalk] mixing FeLV pos and neg
MC what is the incidence of FELV, do you have any info on that? Gloria On Feb 23, 2009, at 10:41 AM, MaryChristine wrote: lorrie, thanks for this post. sometimes it may seem as if i'm anti-vet, when i most decidedly am NOT. i am against vets not keeping up with the research when presented with a positive test result. i know that it's totally unrealistic for every vet to be up-to-date on every species' problems, and considering how low the incidence of FeLV actually is, i'm not that surprised when a vet doesn't know for sure what the state-of-the-art is. HOWEVER, when they don't go and look it up, or ask colleagues, and just go for the easy out or spout information that was probably NEVER considered accurate, well, those are the vets i want to go after. back in 2000, when my cats were all inadvertently exposed, i had JUST learned that FeLV wasn't airborne, and that having an infected cat breathe through a screen at my cats wouldn't infect them. it wasn't til a few months later when i was looking to adopt a paralyzed kitty from a vet that i learned that if she vaccinated him with the full series, he'd be fine, even if mine DID come down with the infection later on! i didn't know at that time how incredibly lucky i was to have found such a vet. i'm SO glad to hear stories about the vets who care to find out the answers. please go to www.adopt.bemikitties.com and post this vet's info for all--hopefully, someday, we'll have a full database for whenever anyone gets that first, scary diagnosis.. (i'm moving to a new city, and planning on holding interviews while determining who my vet there will be!) MC On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Lorrie wrote: Thanks for your post Carmen. It was very comforting. Vets are entirely too quick to suggest euthanasia for FelV pos. cats. This fall I adopted out a FelV pos kitten to a wonderful couple who also had two other cats, not positive for FelV. The first vet at their cinic told them not to take the kitten, so they brought him back to me with tears in their eyes. Then two weeks later they returned to get the kitten, because the other vet in that clinic they go to told them to get their neg. cats vaccinated, and go ahead and bring home the kitten, as it wasn't that contagious. I just visited them yesterday and their positive kitten looks wonderful. He is healthy and happy and has a super good home with them. I can thank this second vet who was so much better informed than his partner was. Lorrie On 02-21, Carmen Conklin wrote: I am writing in response to Lauries note about Isabella. I have had several negative FeLV cats that have been mixed with the FeLV positives over the years and NONE of them ever acquired a positive status to the FeLV. It is definitely NOT an airborne disease in any way and it takes a very prolonged exposure for any negative cats to even possibly acquire the FeLV UNLESS they are bitten and direct blood is passed. Most adult cats are simply immune to FeLV and IF exposed at all, simply shed it off-they do not test postive even if living with those kitties. We have worked with hundreds of FeLV kitties over the last 25 years, and the non positives who lived with even the sympomatic positives did not become positive in their long lifetimes. One recently died of old age-not FeLV. Anyway, most people and some vets still have a pretty healthy fear of FeLV, but for those of us who have worked with these wonderful kitties for awhile and have them for companion animals, experience is a great calmer of all fears of FeLV positives. Carmen ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org ) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] mixing FeLV pos and neg
lorrie, thanks for this post. sometimes it may seem as if i'm anti-vet, when i most decidedly am NOT. i am against vets not keeping up with the research when presented with a positive test result. i know that it's totally unrealistic for every vet to be up-to-date on every species' problems, and considering how low the incidence of FeLV actually is, i'm not that surprised when a vet doesn't know for sure what the state-of-the-art is. HOWEVER, when they don't go and look it up, or ask colleagues, and just go for the easy out or spout information that was probably NEVER considered accurate, well, those are the vets i want to go after. back in 2000, when my cats were all inadvertently exposed, i had JUST learned that FeLV wasn't airborne, and that having an infected cat breathe through a screen at my cats wouldn't infect them. it wasn't til a few months later when i was looking to adopt a paralyzed kitty from a vet that i learned that if she vaccinated him with the full series, he'd be fine, even if mine DID come down with the infection later on! i didn't know at that time how incredibly lucky i was to have found such a vet. i'm SO glad to hear stories about the vets who care to find out the answers. please go to www.adopt.bemikitties.com and post this vet's info for all--hopefully, someday, we'll have a full database for whenever anyone gets that first, scary diagnosis.. (i'm moving to a new city, and planning on holding interviews while determining who my vet there will be!) MC On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Lorrie wrote: > Thanks for your post Carmen. It was very comforting. Vets are > entirely too quick to suggest euthanasia for FelV pos. cats. This > fall I adopted out a FelV pos kitten to a wonderful couple who also > had two other cats, not positive for FelV. The first vet at their > cinic told them not to take the kitten, so they brought him back to > me with tears in their eyes. Then two weeks later they returned to get > the kitten, because the other vet in that clinic they go to told them > to get their neg. cats vaccinated, and go ahead and bring home the > kitten, as it wasn't that contagious. I just visited them yesterday > and their positive kitten looks wonderful. He is healthy and happy > and has a super good home with them. I can thank this second vet who > was so much better informed than his partner was. > > Lorrie > > > On 02-21, Carmen Conklin wrote: I am writing in response to Lauries > > note about Isabella. I have had several negative FeLV cats that > > have been mixed with the FeLV positives over the years and NONE of > > them ever acquired a positive status to the FeLV. It is definitely > > NOT an airborne disease in any way and it takes a very prolonged > > exposure for any negative cats to even possibly acquire the FeLV > > UNLESS they are bitten and direct blood is passed. Most adult cats > > are simply immune to FeLV and IF exposed at all, simply shed it > > off-they do not test postive even if living with those kitties. We > > have worked with hundreds of FeLV kitties over the last 25 years, > > and the non positives who lived with even the sympomatic positives > > did not become positive in their long lifetimes. One recently died > > of old age-not FeLV. Anyway, most people and some vets still have a > > pretty healthy fear of FeLV, but for those of us who have worked > > with these wonderful kitties for awhile and have them for companion > > animals, experience is a great calmer of all fears of FeLV > > positives. Carmen ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] mixing FeLV pos and neg
Thanks for your post Carmen. It was very comforting. Vets are entirely too quick to suggest euthanasia for FelV pos. cats. This fall I adopted out a FelV pos kitten to a wonderful couple who also had two other cats, not positive for FelV. The first vet at their cinic told them not to take the kitten, so they brought him back to me with tears in their eyes. Then two weeks later they returned to get the kitten, because the other vet in that clinic they go to told them to get their neg. cats vaccinated, and go ahead and bring home the kitten, as it wasn't that contagious. I just visited them yesterday and their positive kitten looks wonderful. He is healthy and happy and has a super good home with them. I can thank this second vet who was so much better informed than his partner was. Lorrie > On 02-21, Carmen Conklin wrote: I am writing in response to Lauries > note about Isabella. I have had several negative FeLV cats that > have been mixed with the FeLV positives over the years and NONE of > them ever acquired a positive status to the FeLV. It is definitely > NOT an airborne disease in any way and it takes a very prolonged > exposure for any negative cats to even possibly acquire the FeLV > UNLESS they are bitten and direct blood is passed. Most adult cats > are simply immune to FeLV and IF exposed at all, simply shed it > off-they do not test postive even if living with those kitties. We > have worked with hundreds of FeLV kitties over the last 25 years, > and the non positives who lived with even the sympomatic positives > did not become positive in their long lifetimes. One recently died > of old age-not FeLV. Anyway, most people and some vets still have a > pretty healthy fear of FeLV, but for those of us who have worked > with these wonderful kitties for awhile and have them for companion > animals, experience is a great calmer of all fears of FeLV > positives. Carmen ___ > Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] mixing FeLV pos and neg
Mary Christine, I believe, plain and simple that vets realize the huge number of homeless cats, in shelters, in foster and just running wild and simply look at positive or even ill cats as something that should be irradicated. The first thing I was offered when Boo was found to be positive was euthanization. Because we decided not to we saved at least one other cat that I know of from that fate. A family had brought a young cat in to be neutered and were given the news of her being positive and didn't know if they wanted to take on that responsibility. My husband and I knowing Boo would not be around for long said we would take her, being so young and symptom free. After the vet told them about us and our situation they decided they wanted to keep her. They really loved the cat. Our vet even said he wanted to keep her but he had 3 cats at home already. We were the only people who ever went as far as we did to help Boo according to our vet and he became far more educated because of him. I don't fault the vets. Most ordinary uninformed people will elect not to keep the cat so a lot of vets just don't have the experience dealing with the disease. Lynne - Original Message - From: "MaryChristine" To: Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 11:29 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] mixing FeLV pos and neg thanks, carmen. you're much gentler than i in your evaluation of veterinary attitudes, and the damage they do. the more i find of "old" literature that says what we already know--bout it being bodily-fluids, not air, requiring close consistent contact, how many exposed cats either never become positive or throw the virus off (70%, in the merck veterinary manual), and how many positive kitties live quite happily with negatives, the more unhappy i become with the professionals who have chosen not to follow the literature. the need to retest, and NOT to make life-and-death decisions was taught in at least some vet schools as much as 20 years ago, and the STRONG RECOMMENDATION to retest has been in the professional lit since the early 2000s at least... additionally, there are still no documented cases that i have ever found of a vaccinated truly negative cat (tested negative on both the ELISSA and IFA, at an appropriate interval to rule out exposure) who has ever turned positive from LIVING WITH (as opposed to just visiting or passing in the night) a true positive (also tested more than once.) even at its highest incidence, FeLV only appears in less than 10% of the population natively--if it were as contagious as we are STILL being led to believe, there would be no feral colonies. think about it.. MC On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Carmen Conklin wrote: I am writing in response to Lauries note about Isabella. I have had several negative FeLV cats that have been mixed with the FeLV positives over the years and NONE of them ever acquired a positive status to the FeLV. It is definitely NOT an airborne disease in any way and it takes a very prolonged exposure for any negative cats to even possibly acquire the FeLV UNLESS they are bitten and direct blood is passed. Most adult cats are simply immune to FeLV and IF exposed at all, simply shed it off-they do not test postive even if living with those kitties. We have worked with hundreds of FeLV kitties over the last 25 years, and the non positives who lived with even the sympomatic positives did not become positive in their long lifetimes. One recently died of old age-not FeLV. Anyway, most people and some vets still have a pretty healthy fear of FeLV, but for those of us who have worked with these wonderful kitties for awhile and have them for companion animals, experience is a great calmer of all fears of FeLV positives. Carmen ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org __ NOD32 3875 (20090220) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] mixing FeLV pos and neg
thanks, carmen. you're much gentler than i in your evaluation of veterinary attitudes, and the damage they do. the more i find of "old" literature that says what we already know--bout it being bodily-fluids, not air, requiring close consistent contact, how many exposed cats either never become positive or throw the virus off (70%, in the merck veterinary manual), and how many positive kitties live quite happily with negatives, the more unhappy i become with the professionals who have chosen not to follow the literature. the need to retest, and NOT to make life-and-death decisions was taught in at least some vet schools as much as 20 years ago, and the STRONG RECOMMENDATION to retest has been in the professional lit since the early 2000s at least... additionally, there are still no documented cases that i have ever found of a vaccinated truly negative cat (tested negative on both the ELISSA and IFA, at an appropriate interval to rule out exposure) who has ever turned positive from LIVING WITH (as opposed to just visiting or passing in the night) a true positive (also tested more than once.) even at its highest incidence, FeLV only appears in less than 10% of the population natively--if it were as contagious as we are STILL being led to believe, there would be no feral colonies. think about it.. MC On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Carmen Conklin wrote: > I am writing in response to Lauries note about Isabella. I have had > several > negative FeLV cats that have been mixed with the FeLV positives over the > years and NONE of them ever acquired a positive status to the FeLV. It is > definitely NOT an airborne disease in any way and it takes a very prolonged > exposure for any negative cats to even possibly acquire the FeLV UNLESS > they > are bitten and direct blood is passed. Most adult cats are simply immune to > FeLV and IF exposed at all, simply shed it off-they do not test postive > even > if living with those kitties. We have worked with hundreds of FeLV kitties > over the last 25 years, and the non positives who lived with even the > sympomatic positives did not become positive in their long lifetimes. One > recently died of old age-not FeLV. > Anyway, most people and some vets still have a pretty healthy fear of FeLV, > but for those of us who have worked with these wonderful kitties for awhile > and have them for companion animals, experience is a great calmer of all > fears of FeLV positives. Carmen > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org