Re: [Finale] Music Theory/Duke Ellington

2005-02-11 Thread Christopher Smith
On Feb 11, 2005, at 10:23 AM, John Howell wrote: (And the Pink Panther theme remains the single most widely-heard example of parallel 5ths since the 9th century!) More than Smoke on the Water? ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu

Re: [Finale] Opening old file (Newport font)

2005-02-14 Thread Christopher Smith
On Feb 14, 2005, at 4:11 PM, Chuck Israels wrote: Dear Hiro, Newport is abandoned and only works in classic. I have replaced the falls and doits in all active files with articulations from the Jazz font. The Jazz Font shapes are a little too heavy for my taste, but they are the best I can do

Re: [Finale] JW plugins for Mac yet?

2005-02-15 Thread Christopher Smith
The code is on Jari's site. Not all of it, but he will give the rest to anyone who requests it. Some of us were kicking around the idea of pooling some money to pay someone knowledgeable to port it over, but it's a losing proposition for several reasons. First of all, it will need

Re: [Finale] TAN: Internet Explorer

2005-02-20 Thread Christopher Smith
On the recommendation of various listers, I got Firefox (Mac OSX) and installed it (if you can call that an installation, as I just dragged the app over from the disk image). It seems to work surprisingly similarly to Safari, except it doesn't choke on certain web pages. It is quite zippy, and

Re: [Finale] Music stand and stand light recommendations

2005-02-20 Thread Christopher Smith
On Feb 19, 2005, at 6:19 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: Hey gang, Okay, my 18-piece band is going to start gigging soon and I'm going to need to invest in some stands and stand lights for us. I'm looking for recommendations. The stands must be lightweight and collapsable -- not necessarily

Re: [Finale] Music stand and stand light recommendations

2005-02-20 Thread Christopher Smith
That looks like the corrugated plastic one I mentioned! Good catch! At less than 3 pounds each, you could take a bunch of these on the subway no problem. Christopher On Feb 20, 2005, at 6:13 PM, Jim and Pat Sodke wrote: I've known a few band to use the polystand from: http://www.embeeideas.com/

Re: [Finale] Respacing Music

2005-02-21 Thread Christopher Smith
Jacki, You'll have to respace it before updating layout. The easiest way to respace is Mass Edit tool, Select All (cmd-A) then hit the number 4 over the E and R keys, which is the MetaTool for Note Spacing. You may have to unlock the systems if they are locked, so that the respacing actually

Re: [Finale] OT: Christo's The Gates, NYC Central Park

2005-02-22 Thread Christopher Smith
On Tuesday, February 22, 2005, at 10:00 AM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: I think the Martians would probably be impressed, actually. (By the gates, not by the schools.) I wished I was in New York to be able to see it. When Christo did the Reichstag in Berlin I missed it, and everyone who was there

Re: [Finale] OT: Christo's The Gates, NYC Central Park

2005-02-23 Thread Christopher Smith
. Don't the French use mademoiselle the same way? On Feb 22, 2005, at 3:34 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: Umm, just wondering, but what makes you think Crystal is young? ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] OT: Christo's The Gates, NYC Central Park

2005-02-23 Thread Christopher Smith
On Feb 22, 2005, at 11:24 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: I see no one in this discussion making any attempt whatsoever to dissuade you or Crystal or anyone else from their personal esthetic reactions to art -- all the disputation has been entirely on non- esthetic issues. And some of the non-esthetic

Re: [Finale] new and improved text tool

2005-02-23 Thread Christopher Smith
On Feb 23, 2005, at 1:41 AM, shirling neueweise wrote: GENERAL * Text can be assigned to an individual note or measure (as with the old Expression Tool) or to a page or range of pages (as with the old Text Tool). * Once assigned, default positioning of the individual Text can be altered or

Re: [Finale] beaming

2005-02-24 Thread Christopher Smith
For time signature, choose 2 as the number of beats (not 6) and dotted quarter as the denominator value. This will cause eighths to be beams to the time signature. 6/8 is really 2/dotted quarter after all. When you make the change, choose Rebeam music for the beams to change, otherwise only

Re: [Finale] Re: new and improved text tool

2005-02-24 Thread Christopher Smith
On Feb 24, 2005, at 1:49 PM, Ken Moore wrote: I would like to be able to reuse text blocks on more than one page in different places (IIRC WinFin3.5 would do this). In WinFin 2004, the best I can do is copy their contents. Also, in this version it is not possible (or maybe I have just not

Re: [Finale] Re: new and improved text tool

2005-02-25 Thread Christopher Smith
On Feb 25, 2005, at 10:47 AM, shirling neueweise wrote: kurt, johannes (and others), From: Kurt Gnos I would NOT mingle the two tools since they have an entirely other functionality. However, I'd like some of the things you mention, but in the Text Tool where I might use them. actually they

Re: [Finale] Re: new and improved text tool

2005-02-25 Thread Christopher Smith
On Feb 25, 2005, at 12:40 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: Given the new capabilities of text expressions (multi-line, control of automatic placement), why would any one use a measure-attached text block, rather than a measure-attached expression? Justification. Can't do it in the new text expressions.

[Finale] Clearing Staff Styles

2005-02-25 Thread Christopher Smith
Revelation! I often need to clear a staff style for a measure or two, and have done it for a number of years now by selecting Clear Staff Styles from the Staff menu. I just now discovered that I can do the same thing with one key, Clear on the Mac (I imagine it's the backspace above Enter for

Re: [Finale] OT somewhat...CD players

2005-02-25 Thread Christopher Smith
Linda, I have a CD (it's the example set of CD's from Samuel Adler's book The Study of Orchestration that has index numbers in addition to track numbers. This means that Track 1 has five or so examples, each with their own index number, so Track 1.1, 1.2, etc. He manages to squeeze many

Re: [Finale] OT somewhat...CD players

2005-02-25 Thread Christopher Smith
On Feb 25, 2005, at 7:08 PM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: Christopher's suggestion of index numbers probably won't work. We have players capable of that at the radio station, but nobody's ever actually tried to use that feature! When you say won't work, do you mean that not all the cues will be

Re: [Finale] Re: new and improved text tool

2005-02-25 Thread Christopher Smith
On Feb 25, 2005, at 8:43 PM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: At 05:04 PM 2/25/05 +0100, Johannes Gebauer wrote: I actually want the functionality of measure text blocks improved, since at the moment there is only very limited use for them. I want to be able to assign a _measure_ attached text block

Re: [Finale] Re: new and improved text tool

2005-02-26 Thread Christopher Smith
On Feb 26, 2005, at 12:49 AM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: I've made changes to the toolbar mockup at http://maltedmedia.com/photos/toolbar.gif to reduce Playback and Duplicate buttons to icons, add Click and item number next to Attached to, add a justification droplist, and add a snap-to-grid

Re: [Finale] Tips site update! AND a Simple Entry query

2005-02-26 Thread Christopher Smith
On Feb 26, 2005, at 1:05 AM, Don Hart wrote: Jari, Thanks for keeping up this website and for adding helpful things like the new interviews. I read through most of Tyler Turner's interview (I didn't realize the escape key did that!) and I thought I'd put out a general question about Simple

Re: [Finale] Re: new and improved text tool

2005-02-26 Thread Christopher Smith
On Feb 26, 2005, at 11:46 AM, shirling neueweise wrote: there will be user-definable default settings for the Text, including not only font and size, but also leading and all other text attributes (why this is not already the case escapes me...) and for the three manners of attaching it.

Re: [Finale] OS X: Underline shortcuts in menus?

2005-02-26 Thread Christopher Smith
On Feb 26, 2005, at 3:44 PM, A-NO-NE Music wrote: Meanwhile, OSX comes with a little helper. Just hit Ctrl+Shift+F2 (if nothing happens, hit Ctrl+Shift+F1 first then the feature is enabled). See you can navigate menus with arrow keys then hit [ENTER]. I don't like mousing and I got used to this

Re: [Finale] Tied note starting a coda

2005-02-26 Thread Christopher Smith
On Feb 26, 2005, at 4:48 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: On 26 Feb 2005 at 16:38, Christopher Smith wrote: I know how to start a second ending with a tied note, but how do I start a coda with a tied note? The note in question is both tied over from the previous measure AND tied to the next measure, so

Re: [Finale] Tied note starting a coda

2005-02-26 Thread Christopher Smith
On Feb 26, 2005, at 4:53 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: On 26 Feb 2005, at 4:48 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: On 26 Feb 2005 at 16:38, Christopher Smith wrote: I know how to start a second ending with a tied note, but how do I start a coda with a tied note? The note in question is both tied over from

Re: [Finale] Midifiles - why no drum parts?

2005-02-27 Thread Christopher Smith
On Feb 26, 2005, at 8:23 PM, Kurt Gnos wrote: At 15:22 26.02.2005, you wrote: When I import a midi file into Finale, the drums won't appear. Finale is creating a drums staff, but it remains empty. I tried this out using several midi files. The pity is the main reason ARE the drums - I am

Re: [Finale] OSX Lyric Slowdown!!!

2005-02-27 Thread Christopher Smith
On Feb 27, 2005, at 12:18 AM, Brian Williams wrote: Dear List, I have been working on a Finale 2004 transcription project in MacOS 10.2.4 that simply involves a vocal staff with lyrics and 2 staves of piano. I have found that the only way I can get any usable speed is to enter all the notes in

Re: [Finale] Playback of Dotted 8th/16th as Standard Swing

2005-02-27 Thread Christopher Smith
On Feb 27, 2005, at 11:34 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings!  I'm new to the list (though not to Finale) and have a question about swing playback.   I scanned music, converted it to MusicXML format using SharpEye, then imported it into Finale 2005 for editing.  The music contains standard

Re: [Finale] Midifiles - why no drum parts?

2005-02-27 Thread Christopher Smith
Kurt, Give it a try. I'll check them out, and report back. Christopher On Feb 27, 2005, at 4:12 PM, Kurt Gnos wrote: Christopher, thanks for the answer. I could send you some midi files that won't work for me - maybe they will work for you? Kurt At 12:34 27.02.2005, you wrote: On Feb 26, 2005,

Re: [Finale] Playback of Dotted 8th/16th as Standard Swing

2005-02-28 Thread Christopher Smith
In a message dated 02/28/2005 12:42:28 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Part of the problem is the notation you are dealing with; writing swing rhythms as dotted-eighth/sixteenth is a very old notation, and you almost never see it any more in modern works. Unless the

Mail problem, was Re: [Finale] Playback of Dotted 8th/16th as Standard Swing

2005-02-28 Thread Christopher Smith
On Feb 28, 2005, at 8:41 AM, Christopher Smith wrote: In a message dated 02/28/2005 12:42:28 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Part of the problem is the notation you are dealing with; writing swing rhythms as dotted-eighth/sixteenth is a very old notation, and you almost

Re: [Finale] OT-Non-responsive MIDI keys

2005-02-28 Thread Christopher Smith
On Feb 28, 2005, at 10:11 AM, Henry Howey wrote: A couple of keys on my EDIROL PCR-31 keyboard are not making a circuit. Is there a spray or other means to (I assume) de-oxidize the contacts for a better response? -- I don't know what kind of key contacts are on the Edirol, but there are two

Re: [Finale] Layers vs. Voices

2005-02-28 Thread Christopher Smith
On Feb 28, 2005, at 3:59 PM, Kurt Gnos wrote: But I guess there are many things in Finale that can be done differently - from entering notes (not just with different tools, also in different ways) until formatting and printout. There are also people who like lyrics mass edit, which I cannot

Re: [Finale] Re: Mail problem

2005-02-28 Thread Christopher Smith
On Feb 28, 2005, at 5:49 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: On 28 Feb 2005, at 8:50 AM, Christopher Smith wrote: Anybody else out there with Mail can confirm? This only applies to your most recent message, not the first one. This has been a problem for me with a number of people using AOL mail. I

Re: [Finale] Midifiles - why no drum parts?

2005-03-01 Thread Christopher Smith
to genuflect in her direction, mouth agape in wonder. You can also choose to set up percussion staves here (including a percussion map...which Christopher Smith is a whiz at doing so maybe you can pick his brain for this. :-) Aww, shucks again! Actually, I am no whiz, I just waded through

Re: [Finale] Midifiles - why no drum parts?

2005-03-01 Thread Christopher Smith
On Mar 1, 2005, at 12:02 PM, Kurt Gnos wrote: Hi Christopher, At 16:44 01.03.2005, you wrote: Karen is the all-knowing, all-seeing queen of MIDI files. She nailed exactly what was going on, and then some. There is nothing I can add to what she said, except to genuflect in her direction, mouth

Re: [Finale] backwards conversion from 2005 to 2004

2005-03-01 Thread Christopher Smith
On Mar 1, 2005, at 12:39 PM, d. collins wrote: If MakeMusic would consider giving us backwards compatibility (at least one version), no one would one have to run that kind of risk. But, after reading the interviews on Jari's site, I realize the chances of seeing this are more than slim. Too

Re: [Finale] Tied note starting a coda

2005-03-01 Thread Christopher Smith
On Feb 27, 2005, at 11:38 AM, Andrew Stiller wrote: On Feb 26, 2005, at 4:38 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: Greetings collected wisdom. I know how to start a second ending with a tied note, but how do I start a coda with a tied note? The note in question is both tied over from the previous measure

Re: [Finale] FYI

2005-03-01 Thread Christopher Smith
On Mar 1, 2005, at 5:51 PM, shirling neueweise wrote: the shape designer can hold at least 11488 shapes... in case you wanted to know. i didn't particularly want to know, but just got a new score to work on, containing hundreds upon hundreds of copies of the same metatool-assigned

Re: [Finale] Another Finale shortcut (OS X)

2005-03-02 Thread Christopher Smith
On Mar 2, 2005, at 3:48 AM, Jonathan Smith wrote: This baffles me also. The 3 selection check boxes you get on 'copy and filter' put smart shapes and score expressions into the same category, therefore NOT allowing any real filtering. This destroys the whole idea of having a filter in the first

Re: [Finale] inconsistency with margins while printing

2005-03-02 Thread Christopher Smith
On Mar 2, 2005, at 2:25 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone---I'm printing a big band score using landscape format, 8 measures to a page. I found that the score prints the first 9 pages with about a 3 or 4 inch margin on the right side of the page, which means the 8 measures are slightly

Re: [Finale] JW Divider for OSX

2005-03-02 Thread Christopher Smith
My mother thanks you, my father thanks you, my clients thank you, and me, well, that goes without saying... No it doesn't. THANK YOU! We love you, and if you ever need your car washed, baby sitting, a hot meal, a beer, you know where to go. Christopher On Mar 2, 2005, at 3:17 PM, Darcy James

Re: [Finale] Finale Interface, palettes

2005-03-02 Thread Christopher Smith
On Mar 2, 2005, at 4:58 PM, A-NO-NE Music wrote: Yes, under MacOS, the window position is supposed to be written to pref file every time an app closes. Why Finale doesn't do that, is beyond me :-( I had a hard time with the new coloured buttons in OSX when I first started. I couldn't figure

Re: [Finale] Finale/Sibelius and Finale 2005/Finale 200x comparison

2005-03-02 Thread Christopher Smith
On Mar 2, 2005, at 4:26 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings all,   mailing list newbie here. Glad to have found this.   The latest version of Finale I am familiar with is 2002, having refused to upgrade beyond that until they fixed some of the basic notational problems in Finale that always

Re: [Finale] New Real Book font

2005-03-03 Thread Christopher Smith
It was Finale for all the Real Books after Vol 1. The font was a custom font by the copyist, and they are guarding it jealously (I asked!) If you compare the Vol 1 to say Vol 2, the quality of the hand copying in Vol 1 is quite astonishing, IMHO. I don't think I have ever seen anything quite

Re: [Finale] Finale/Sibelius and Finale 2005/Finale 200x comparison

2005-03-03 Thread Christopher Smith
On Mar 2, 2005, at 10:35 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: On 2 Mar 2005 at 20:18, Christopher Smith wrote: disappearing measures, I've never seen that. What is that? I have occasionally seen measures APPEAR to vanish, but that is usually because I had a multi-measure rest where I later entered notes

Re: [Finale] JW Divider for OSX

2005-03-03 Thread Christopher Smith
Hmm, it shows up fine for me, in all window sizes in Safari. When I make the window very narrow, it moves off the right border, but I have a scroll bar that appears so I can get to it. Apparently Firefox (which operates very similarly to Safari) handles web pages that Safari has problems with.

Re: [Finale] Finale Interface, palettes

2005-03-03 Thread Christopher Smith
On Mar 2, 2005, at 9:01 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: Hi Chris, Presumably the Zoom button in AppleWorks doesn't zoom to an 8.5x11 page if you have a different page size selected for the active document? If not, that's a bug. With Safari, the zoom button takes you to the minimum width specified

Re: [Finale] Finale Interface, palettes

2005-03-03 Thread Christopher Smith
On Mar 3, 2005, at 8:38 AM, Darcy James Argue wrote: Hi Chris, There's a good example of my confusion. The window goes to the minimum width, good. However, the height is about half of my screen, with a scroll bar appearing on the right, even though I am able to manually resize the window so

Re: [Finale] Single Pitch plugin

2005-03-03 Thread Christopher Smith
On Mar 3, 2005, at 9:17 AM, Robert Patterson wrote: If you knew anything about the convoluted way Finale stores pitch information, this would not only seem not an oddity but rather all too predictable. I learned years ago always to use major key signatures, because apparently they are the only

Re: [Finale] Single Pitch plugin

2005-03-03 Thread Christopher Smith
On Mar 3, 2005, at 10:16 AM, James Gilbert wrote: On Thu, 3 Mar 2005, Christopher Smith wrote: On the other hand, if you enter a modulation from Eb major to C minor, the key signature stubbornly re-appears as if the number of flats has just changed. Grr. See Document options-Key Signature

Re: [Finale] backwards conversion from 2005 to 2004

2005-03-03 Thread Christopher Smith
On Mar 3, 2005, at 10:27 AM, Simon Troup wrote: Still, considering the work that goes into templates and libraries, I'm suprised that submission of finale files isn't a hot topic. I'd be very concerned that composers wouldn't gut the files and use them as templates, then just call me in for the

Re: [Finale] backwards conversion from 2005 to 2004

2005-03-03 Thread Christopher Smith
On Mar 3, 2005, at 11:05 AM, Simon Troup wrote: Actually, I don't care enough about the secrecy of my libraries even if I have spent a lot of time on them, and I DO give them away to anyone who asks, particularly colleagues and students. If they like my settings and copy them, then the world just

Re: [Finale] backwards conversion from 2005 to 2004

2005-03-03 Thread Christopher Smith
On Mar 3, 2005, at 4:29 PM, Simon Troup wrote: I was however _fascinated_ in the topic as some peoples relationships with their clients were very far removed from my own experience - Dennis and others have been talking about issues which simply haven't arisen for me in ten years in the

Re: [Finale] instrument.txt file

2005-03-04 Thread Christopher Smith
On Mar 3, 2005, at 11:27 PM, shirling neueweise wrote: 3) how do i override the automatic selection of alternate notehead fonts and percussion notation style with (single-line) percussion instruments (eg. triangle)? somewhere someone has defined the functioning of StaffType and i want access!

Re: [Finale] Finale/Sibelius and Finale 2005/Finale 200x comparison

2005-03-04 Thread Christopher Smith
On Mar 4, 2005, at 5:32 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've also written a blog entry on this topic (Finale vs. Sibelius) on my website, would be interested in your feedback: Very nicely put, but for my money (all 0$ of it!) I would have liked more detail than just hairpin openings, particularly

[Finale] Fooled by a measure expression's playback!

2005-03-04 Thread Christopher Smith
I just lost 20 minutes on a foolish problem. I am writing accompaniments to choral arrangements this week, and I tried to play back a file as a test for when the choir director is coming over. I don't use play back very often, but this was a special case. Everything was fine (or as fine as can

Re: [Finale] Fooled by a measure expression's playback!

2005-03-04 Thread Christopher Smith
On Mar 4, 2005, at 1:02 PM, Harold Owen wrote: Christopher Smith writes: I just lost 20 minutes on a foolish problem. I am writing accompaniments to choral arrangements this week, and I tried to play back a file as a test for when the choir director is coming over. I don't use play back very

Re: [Finale] String divisi

2005-03-04 Thread Christopher Smith
On Mar 4, 2005, at 5:00 PM, Mark D Lew wrote: On Mar 4, 2005, at 7:06 AM, Michael Cook wrote: There are many such instances in Strauss's works: he apparently explained to the players that if they imagined the note hard enough and looked as if they were playing it, nobody would hear the

Re: [Finale] OT Bass low B

2005-03-05 Thread Christopher Smith
On Mar 5, 2005, at 1:47 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: On 05 Mar 2005, at 11:18 AM, Chuck Israels wrote: And John Denver is alleged to have used a scordatura tuning for his guitar, allowing him to play figurations that would have been unplayable in normal guitar tuning. Not so unusual for

Re: [Finale] Chord symbol

2005-03-05 Thread Christopher Smith
On Mar 5, 2005, at 11:45 AM, Roger Julià Satorra wrote: No, what I want is a Bb7 (9, +11, 13), it's easier to write C/Bb7, but not by finale! Roger Darcy gave you good advice about getting what you want on paper. I would gently suggest that while C Bb7 might be easier for you, it might be

Re: [Finale] Re: Finale Digest, Vol 20, Issue 7

2005-03-05 Thread Christopher Smith
On Mar 5, 2005, at 1:48 PM, Ken Moore wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Andrew Stiller writes: Scordatura is sometimes notated that way, and sometimes at the actual pitch, the convention varying with time, place, and circumstance. Any unorthodox tuning of a stringed instrument is scordatura

Re: [Finale] Bass Trom

2005-03-07 Thread Christopher Smith
There are a few varieties of contrabass trombone that I know of. One is pitched in BBb, has a double slide (four tubes instead of two), a single F trigger, and is played with a mouthpiece close to the size of a tuba mouthpiece (makes sense, as the tessitura is so similar. The model I am

Re: [Finale] OT: Bass Trombone (Brass Band)

2005-03-07 Thread Christopher Smith
On Mar 7, 2005, at 3:28 PM, Joe Laird wrote: Hi Folks, All this talk about bass trombones has got me wondering why the bass trombone is the only non-transposing brass instrument in the traditional British brass band. As I understand it, the practice of transposing all the instruments in a

Re: [Finale] Duplicate Hairpins

2005-03-08 Thread Christopher Smith
On Mar 8, 2005, at 9:01 AM, JD wrote: on 3/7/05 10:16 PM, Darcy James Argue at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So -- any ideas (1) what is causing these duplicate hairpins to occur, and (2) is there any reasonable way of getting rid of them? I'm not about to go through an existing document and try

Re: [Finale] OT: Best Works of the 1920s

2005-03-09 Thread Christopher Smith
At 07:41 AM 3/9/05 -0500, Darcy James Argue wrote: Just FYI -- in case you've never heard the original version, with the Paul Whiteman band and Gershwin at the Piano, you can listen to it here: http://www.redhotjazz.com/Songs/Whiteman/rhapblua.ram There is also a version recorded in 1927 using

Re: [Finale] Authentication schemes

2005-03-10 Thread Christopher Smith
On Mar 10, 2005, at 2:21 AM, d. collins wrote: Noel Stoutenburg écrit: I've found it necessary, on account of hard drive failure, to reinstall 2k4 three times, and the biggest inconvenience I experienced was having to wait until the Finale office opened later in the morning, to call and request

Re: [Finale] OT: Best Works of the 1920s

2005-03-10 Thread Christopher Smith
On Mar 10, 2005, at 3:55 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone wrote: That's an easy one -- Rhapsody in Blue isn't jazz. I recently heard a discussion on this very subject - whether R in B was jazz or not. Several wildly different recordings were called upon as witnesses. The conclusion was

Re: [Finale] OT: Best Works of the 1920s

2005-03-10 Thread Christopher Smith
On Mar 10, 2005, at 7:04 AM, dhbailey wrote: Darcy James Argue wrote: On 09 Mar 2005, at 5:30 PM, Mark D Lew wrote: But I pretty much hate opera, so I'd best disqualify myself from *that* discussion. Well, if you must know, I pretty much hate jazz. You know, it strikes me that both Mark's

Re: [Finale] Authentication schemes

2005-03-10 Thread Christopher Smith
On Mar 10, 2005, at 9:29 AM, d. collins wrote: Christopher Smith écrit: Well, strictly speaking, you can install 2004 and use it for 30 days before it refuses to run. That should give you enough time to call up, edit, and print any of your files. I don't know how closely you've been following

Re: [Finale] OT: Best Works of the 1920s

2005-03-10 Thread Christopher Smith
On Mar 10, 2005, at 10:00 AM, Darcy James Argue wrote: Just to clarify, I don't hate opera the way I hate, say, Celine Dion or Kenny G or Andrew Lloyd Webber or American Idol. I hope that was clear. It would be more accurate to say that opera leaves me cold -- with a handful of exceptions, I

Re: [Finale] OT: Best Works of the 1920s

2005-03-11 Thread Christopher Smith
On Mar 11, 2005, at 3:46 AM, Michael Cook wrote: At 12:20 -0800 10/03/2005, Mark D Lew wrote: It has been my observation that Wozzeck is most highly praised by people who are very into orchestral music but have little interest in opera. That is, the sort of people who like Wozzeck usually don't

Re: [Finale] lyrics underline

2005-03-12 Thread Christopher Smith
Yes, apparently the underscore (along with the space and hyphen) is a reserved character telling Finale to move to the next syllable. You would have to find a similar character, mapped to a different keystroke in the font, to force the underscore to appear by itself. I don't know what font you are

Re: [Finale] lyrics underline

2005-03-12 Thread Christopher Smith
In a message dated 3/12/2005 10:34:48 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes, apparently the underscore (along with the space and hyphen) is a reserved character telling Finale to move to the next syllable. You would have to find a similar character, mapped to a different

Re: [Finale] lyrics underline

2005-03-12 Thread Christopher Smith
On Mar 12, 2005, at 1:57 PM, d. collins wrote: Mark D Lew écrit: If so, this must be something new. There's never been any problem with the underscore character up through Fin 2k2. Perhaps it has to do with the new smart word extensions? Has anyone confirmed whether it's a problem with the

Re: [Finale] Instrument changing - midscore

2005-03-13 Thread Christopher Smith
On Mar 13, 2005, at 3:51 PM, Jim and Pat Sodke wrote: Christopher Thank you so much. Any help on changing the midi playback instrument at these points? Jim I just need to quote David Bailey's original reply. I'm not sure how easy it is to do this in 2004, but it is dead easy in 2005, under

Re: [Finale] Measure spacing handles

2005-03-13 Thread Christopher Smith
On Mar 13, 2005, at 4:29 PM, Owain Sutton wrote: Apologies - your reply might have been one that arrived in my inbox the afternoon I screwed up my system so badly I had to reinstall. And I'm now scratching my head as to how I'd missed this before - the option that's not on by default isn't for

Re: [Finale] FS: GarageKey USB MIDI Keyboard

2005-03-13 Thread Christopher Smith
On Mar 13, 2005, at 4:49 PM, Carlberg Jones wrote: P.S. In order to avoid spills on computer equipment, may I suggest altering your work technique? Mount the equipment upside down on swivel posts near a comfortable bed. Carlberg Jones Very nice! However, that would still not eliminate the most

Re: [Finale] MacOSX File overwrite bug

2005-03-14 Thread Christopher Smith
And I've never used Exposé, and I've had the bug, both with minimised and not-minimised files, even before minimising existed. Christopher On Mar 14, 2005, at 7:10 AM, Darcy James Argue wrote: Hi Jari, Thanks for passing this on, but I'm afraid this person doesn't know what he's talking about.

Re: [Finale] Slur Interpretation on Playback

2005-03-15 Thread Christopher Smith
On Mar 15, 2005, at 9:34 AM, Leigh Daniels wrote: Hi All, I'm working on a string arrangement using FinMac2004 with MIDI playback to my K2600R. Is there a way for me to get Finale to tell the K2600R to play four slurred 8th notes legato instead of articulating each note? Interpret Slurs is checked

Re: [Finale] Hash marks with chord diagrams

2005-03-15 Thread Christopher Smith
This is a real hard way to do it. Here's an easier way. There is a staff style called Slash Notation. In the Staff tool, select the passage, hit S (for Slash). All of layer 1 is turned into slashes. If you hit R (for RHythmic) every thing turns into stemmed slashes. As you noticed, you need

Re: [Finale] Hash marks with chord diagrams

2005-03-15 Thread Christopher Smith
Go ahead and send me the file privately. I'll see what's wrong. Christopher On Mar 15, 2005, at 1:24 PM, George Ports wrote: Changed to Slash Notation with no problem. Lost the Chords and Chord diagrams when I did it. Tried to edit the Staff Style and couldn't figure out just how to do it.

Re: [Finale] removing contents of a single layer

2005-03-16 Thread Christopher Smith
On Mar 16, 2005, at 7:59 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm working with the demo version of F2005, which does not include any documentation or online help (stupidly, if I may say so). If I want to delete the contents of e.g. layer 4 in a given part, In Finale 2002 I'm used to being able to select

Re: [Finale] Alt-v-a

2005-03-17 Thread Christopher Smith
On Mar 16, 2005, at 10:03 PM, Keith Helgesen wrote: Amazing what you learn when reading threads for interest only! I never knew about Alt-v-a- Wonderful! I really will find that useful- Sure beats pulling down the menu! How does one locate all these shortcuts, macros etc? (Still on Fin2001 BTW)

Re: [Finale] Alt-v-a

2005-03-17 Thread Christopher Smith
On Mar 17, 2005, at 7:14 AM, Carlberg Jones wrote: At 7:07 AM -0500 3/17/05, Christopher Smith wrote: Say, there isn't a Mac version of this shortcut, is there? Mackers, anyone? Don't know about that one in particular, but when I go to Mac help and search for keyboard shortcuts I get a wealth

Re: [Finale] pick-up measure

2005-03-17 Thread Christopher Smith
On Mar 17, 2005, at 3:54 PM, Eric Dussault wrote: We normally count the measure from the first complete measure in a piece or section. I think I remember reading something about a rule that makes the pick-up measure by part of the measure count when it has a certain length (like more than half

Re: [Finale] pick-up measure

2005-03-18 Thread Christopher Smith
On Mar 18, 2005, at 5:20 AM, dhbailey wrote: Christopher Smith wrote: On Mar 17, 2005, at 3:54 PM, Eric Dussault wrote: We normally count the measure from the first complete measure in a piece or section. I think I remember reading something about a rule that makes the pick-up measure by part

Re: [Finale] pick-up measure

2005-03-18 Thread Christopher Smith
On Mar 18, 2005, at 10:18 AM, John Howell wrote: At 7:53 AM -0500 3/18/05, Eric Dussault wrote: Thanks everyone for your opinions. It fortunately confirms the practice I always did. There is one situation where I don't know for sure what to do : considering that the duration of the anacrusis is

Re: [Finale] pick-up measure

2005-03-18 Thread Christopher Smith
On Mar 18, 2005, at 12:50 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: On 18 Mar 2005 at 7:58, Christopher Smith wrote: I'm thinking of one piece in particular of mine that I started with a 7 eighth-note pickup, but then amended later to be 9 eighth-notes, which of course took up one measure and an eighth note

Re: [Finale] Handwritten fonts

2005-03-18 Thread Christopher Smith
On Mar 17, 2005, at 11:00 PM, John Bell wrote: I know that the Jazz font is quite popular with writers and players who are accustomed to handwritten music. Personally I have always regarded it as rather silly, if you're using a computer, to pretend that you're not. But I do recognize that some

Re: [Finale] pick-up measure

2005-03-18 Thread Christopher Smith
On Mar 18, 2005, at 5:09 PM, Andrew Stiller wrote: On Mar 18, 2005, at 12:24 AM, A-NO-NE Music wrote: The first measure is the beginning of the harmonic rhythm, and should be dictated by the composer's intention. This is by no means necessarily the case. Partial measures are not numbered

Re: [Finale] pick-up measure

2005-03-18 Thread Christopher Smith
On Mar 18, 2005, at 10:44 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: Hiro, I don't know how many times I have to say this. Measure numbers have NOTHING TO DO with the form. You keep confusing two completely unrelated issues. In a 32-bar AABA tune with a two-bar intro, you delineate the form with double bars

Re: [Finale] pick-up measure

2005-03-18 Thread Christopher Smith
On Mar 18, 2005, at 5:22 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: On 18 Mar 2005 at 14:08, Christopher Smith wrote: For that matter, in the example I cited above (BEFORE the revision) I had a pickup measure with 7 eighths in it. I didn't bother making it a 7/8 bar, as that seemed needlessly fussy and would most

Re: [Finale] Re: Justifying Text in Expression Designer

2005-03-19 Thread Christopher Smith
Rob, Justification is not one of the features that staff expressions have, at least, not in the present version of Finale. Yes, I bemoaned that fact, too, and sent off a request to Finale to include justification next time, as that is the last thing you can do in Text expressions that you

Re: [Finale] Sibelius into Finale

2005-03-19 Thread Christopher Smith
On Mar 19, 2005, at 7:28 AM, john harding wrote: I'm no Finalist, but I did once save a Sibelius score as MIDI and then open it in Finale. I wanted to see if it would (unlike Sibelius) notate multiple Scotch Snaps correctly, which it did. The formatting seemed to have flown out the window, and

Re: [Finale] pick-up measure

2005-03-19 Thread Christopher Smith
On Mar 19, 2005, at 8:26 AM, Darcy James Argue wrote: On 19 Mar 2005, at 12:10 AM, Christopher Smith wrote: I was ready to capitulate on the numbering-all-complete-measures issue, but this went over the edge. You can say Measure numbers have NOTHING TO DO with the form. all you like

Re: [Finale] Libraries not backwards compatible?

2005-03-19 Thread Christopher Smith
On Mar 19, 2005, at 3:30 PM, John Roberts wrote: I was hoping to make a small library of articulations (simple guitar fingerings) to send to a friend still using Finale 97. A quick experiment seems to indicate that to do even this little thing I would need to create the library in Fin 97 or

Re: [Finale] pick-up measure

2005-03-19 Thread Christopher Smith
On Mar 19, 2005, at 12:45 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: On 19 Mar 2005, at 12:19 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: Your point about the New Real Book not having measure numbers illustrates my point even better than it does yours. How, exactly? My point is that proper layout and use of rehearsal

Re: [Finale] pick-up measure

2005-03-19 Thread Christopher Smith
On Mar 19, 2005, at 7:24 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: Written measure numbers are not usually found on lead sheets anyway. We started this discussion talking about arrangements, and somehow we segued into lead sheets -- two very different situations. OK, I thought we WERE talking about lead

Re: [Finale] Cues over Drum line.

2005-03-20 Thread Christopher Smith
On Mar 20, 2005, at 5:34 PM, Keith Helgesen wrote: x-tad-bigger/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerIs it possible, in Win Fin 2001 to put a Small note cue melody line above a drum part which is largely staff style measure or double measure repeats./x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerI

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