Re: Contributions from competing products (was: Just a small question...)

Thanks for the kind comments, Glen. I look forward to discussing the topic of how to deal with contributions made by developers of competing products, and more importantly, the fruition of a plan or protocol to help guide us. Web Maestro Clay On Feb 6, 2004, at 3:46 PM, Glen Mazza wrote: --- C

RE: Just a small question...

> -Original Message- > From: Andreas L. Delmelle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -Original Message- > > From: Glen Mazza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > Keep in mind, Andreas, Apache Geronimo is already > > running into headaches, apparently including > > complaints on "arc

RE: Just a small question...

> -Original Message- > From: Glen Mazza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Yes, indeed, of course. I don't know the difference > between US and European laws here--but most companies Actually there is probably not that much difference WRT the law 'in se' (for those who remember the patentabili

RE: Just a small question...

> -Original Message- > From: Peter B. West [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Andreas L. Delmelle wrote: > > > > Peter / Nikolai, > > > > I think I should be the one to apologize here, as Nikolai seems > > to have been offended by one of *my* unreflected shoots from the hip ... > > Andreas, > >

Re: (Peter) Re: Just a small question...

No big deal--but I do wish to add that my phrasing that you were *intentionally* trying to attribute Andreas' quotes to me was wrong, and I do apologize for that. Anyway, let's get back to work... Glen --- "Peter B. West" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: __ Do you Ya

Re: (Peter) Re: Just a small question...

Glen Mazza wrote: Peter, Both of the remarks that Nikolai quoted [1] in leaving the list came from Andreas [2], not from me [3]. I was only stating the obvious in my warnings not to use their code. I don't appreciate you trying--for those who haven't been following the thread--to attribute Andre

Re: Contributions from competing products (was: Just a small question...)

--- Clay Leeds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would posit that the *issue* of how to deal with > PATCH contributions > should be discussed so that a plan/protocol can be > achieved. This needs > to occur at least at the "project" (FOP) level > (possibly ending with a > VOTE), but should really

Re: Just a small question...

Andreas L. Delmelle wrote: Peter / Nikolai, I think I should be the one to apologize here, as Nikolai seems to have been offended by one of *my* unreflected shoots from the hip --hey, sometimes I'm in the mood for joking. If the joke comes across bad, I appreciate it when people tell me that it ha

Re: Just a small question...

Glen Mazza wrote: [Pardon me, Peter, for more shooting from the hip...] Don't mention it, Glen (whose contributions we all value highly.) Peter -- Peter B. West

RE: Just a small question...

> -Original Message- > From: John Austin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > I am surprised that MS or their minions at SCO haven't twigged to the > following scheme" > > They could 'set-up' Open Source by masquerading as some student > in netland and submit some provably proprietary code as o

RE: Just a small question...

> -Original Message- > From: Peter B. West [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Nikolai, > > Please re-consider your decision. I, for one, am extremely pleased that > developers on other XSL-FO projects, especially ones so successful as > RenderX, are interested enough in FOP to monitor this list,

RE: Just a small question...

> -Original Message- > From: Glen Mazza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > I really appreciate your enthusiasm and am very happy, > upon you finding something possibly of use to FOP on > another ML, of your bringing it back to the team. We > should just be careful in this particular case, > how

Contributions from competing products (was: Just a small question...)

Although I am not a COMMITTER I feel I need to speak up here, having been one of the more recent recipients of Glen's "from-the-hip" comments. I was a bit shocked and dismayed at the lack of diplomacy in Glen's apparent attack on Andreas' original post[*] (included below for completeness). (BT

(Peter) Re: Just a small question...

Peter, Both of the remarks that Nikolai quoted [1] in leaving the list came from Andreas [2], not from me [3]. I was only stating the obvious in my warnings not to use their code. I don't appreciate you trying--for those who haven't been following the thread--to attribute Andreas' quotes to me.

Re: apologies to Nikolai Grigoriev? (was: Just a small question...)

I agree. 100%. Thanks, Bertrand, for speaking my mind. On 06.02.2004 08:26:58 Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > executive summary: ARE YOU GUYS CRAZY? > > Le Jeudi, 5 fév 2004, à 21:28 Europe/Zurich, Nikolai Grigoriev a écrit : > > > I realize I was wrong when I answered to this forum - I could not >

apologies to Nikolai Grigoriev? (was: Just a small question...)

executive summary: ARE YOU GUYS CRAZY? Le Jeudi, 5 fév 2004, à 21:28 Europe/Zurich, Nikolai Grigoriev a écrit : I realize I was wrong when I answered to this forum - I could not expect my words to be interpreted this way. Please disregard my previous message; I also unsubscribe from the list, to

RE: Just a small question...

I really appreciate your enthusiasm and am very happy, upon you finding something possibly of use to FOP on another ML, of your bringing it back to the team. We should just be careful in this particular case, however. (BTW, you may also wish to look at Xalan, Batik, and Cocoon for other ideas--*t

RE: Just a small question...

[Pardon me, Peter, for more shooting from the hip...] --- "Andreas L. Delmelle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --nor should FOP developers even > > be looking at its internals. Matter of simple > > integrity. > > I think this is a bit over the top. Suppose that > tomorrow, someone gets > fired a

Re: Just a small question...

Nikolai Grigoriev wrote: I realize I was wrong when I answered to this forum - I could not expect my words to be interpreted this way. Please disregard my previous message; I also unsubscribe from the list, to make you feel sure I don't induce anyone into wrongdoing. RenderX (--still wonderin

RE: Just a small question...

> -Original Message- > From: Andreas L. Delmelle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Again, I *do* appreciate your concerns for the project as a whole, but I > strongly doubt whether these should be a reason to remain blind to other > peoples' approaches. > > To summarize: it's all about learni

Re: Just a small question...

urs truly, Nikolai Grigoriev XEP Project Leader RenderX - Original Message - From: "Andreas L. Delmelle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 9:58 PM Subject: RE: Just a small question... > -Original Message- >

RE: Just a small question...

On Thu, 2004-02-05 at 15:28, Andreas L. Delmelle wrote: > I think this is a bit over the top. Suppose that tomorrow, someone gets > fired at RX or AH, and this ex-employee decides to share some ideas with us. > Are we really going to tell him to take a hike?? Just because of simple > integrity? (S

RE: Just a small question...

> -Original Message- > From: Glen Mazza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Please do *not* share anything you find with the > team--We don't need any you-stole-our-code headaches > from the commercial implementations. > Ok, I won't No offense, but I think you mistake my intentions here, Glen.

RE: Just a small question...

--- "Andreas L. Delmelle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: Nikolai Grigoriev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > If you look into XEP's main jar (e.g. > xep372_trial.jar), you can find > > the preprocessor stylesheet under > com/renderx/xep/pre/processor.xsl. > >

RE: Just a small question...

> -Original Message- > From: Nikolai Grigoriev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > If you look into XEP's main jar (e.g. xep372_trial.jar), you can find > the preprocessor stylesheet under com/renderx/xep/pre/processor.xsl. > This stylesheet is the main reason why XT is always needed in the >

Re: Just a small question...

Andreas, Andreas L. Delmelle wrote: > Picked this one up @ mulberry: > > "In RenderX XEP, an XSL FO formatter, the preprocessor is written in XSLT; > it is a complex stylesheet of moderate size, and it does what is best to > do in XML manipulation language." If you look into XEP's main jar (e.g.

RE: Just a small question...

> -Original Message- > From: Andreas L. Delmelle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Picked this one up @ mulberry: > > "In RenderX XEP, an XSL FO formatter, the preprocessor is written in XSLT; > it is a complex stylesheet of moderate size, and it does what is best to > do in XML manipulation la

Just a small question...

Picked this one up @ mulberry: "In RenderX XEP, an XSL FO formatter, the preprocessor is written in XSLT; it is a complex stylesheet of moderate size, and it does what is best to do in XML manipulation language." Does anybody here have an idea of what exactly is meant by this? Is it an option t