If you do end up creating a graphic, then the best tool for this is from
Xara Corporation.
Check out www.xara.com for more information ... their Xara3D 6 will do
this and much more for text stuff - including outstanding and easy
shadow generation (for text and graphical objects).
The price ($29
In addition to courses, I would highly recommend buying and reading this
book:
http://www.scriptorium.com/books/techwrite101.html
Plus, Scriptorium also has on-line courses on FrameMaker and technical
writing:
http://www.scriptorium.com/training/class_techwrite101.html.
It is not a
Are you using the DVI connector or the VGA connector on the laptop (to
connect to the external monitor - which I assume is an LCD monitor)? If
not DVI, can you try that and see if the problem persists?
Also, have you tried switching from dual-screen mode (where the output
is on both screens) to
I use a similar, albeit older, laptop - it is a Dell 820 with a nVidia
Quadro 120 graphics card and an external Dell 24" LCD (at 1920 x 1200)
and do not remember seeing these screen artifacts when I trialed FM 9.
Since my trial license has expired, I cannot test again ... L
One other thought
Sorry for the off-topic, but sorta-related question.
Does anyone have experience with the Alfresco system (www.alfresco.com)
for use with distribution of documents? If so, can you comment on that
(or other competitive products, etc.)?
Here is the the context:
We do most of our Technical
Thanks, Troy! I appreciate the information. I am kicking off this
project in the next few days to weeks. Yesterday, I went ahead and
signed up for the Community Network access to see how it works ...
Regards,
Z
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From: Troy Fey [mailto:troy@opinicus.com]
Sent:
Sorry to hear this, Deirdre!
Hope you find some other opportunity very soon.
Z
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From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Deirdre
Reagan
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 1:28 PM
To: framers at
Wow! That would drive me totally bonkers if it had happened to me ...!!
Z
-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Art Campbell
Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 8:12 AM
To: davec2468 at aim.com
Cc: framers
I have looked before but not found any Frame built-in capability that did this.
BookVars is the best way to go here! I could not do without it. My
most-oft-used add-on! :)
Z
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From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com]
If it is a web site or something like that, I would use either "log out"
or "log off" as the instruction.
However, if it is a local program, then a simple "exit the program" or
"exit" is better.
Z
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From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at
Amazon has it for $1699. Only 2 left in stock ...
http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Technical-Communication-Suite-2/dp/B001OBGLZ
W/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8=1250609744=8-1
Z
-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of
Ummm ... I am running Windows 7 (both 64 bit and 32 bit) on 2GB and 3GB
machines without any difficulty - but have not yet tried 1GB systems.
Faster and less of a load than Vista actually! :)
And, yes, Windows 7 is likely to be an XP killer ... finally! I find it
quicker and cleaner than XP.
Z
Too late to help now, but it is for this *exact* reason that I use a variable
for the "product name" and other similar "likely-to-change' information inside
the document.
Then, using the BookVars tool from Leximation, life is greatly automated to
make these kinds of changes! :)
As a temporary
Hi, Nancy.
Re-saving a JPEG original as another JPEG can be "further" lossy
(compounding the initial drop in quality) ... you might want to make
sure that the image quality has not degraded too far. Assuming you did
not go back to the original image source material, of course!
You can introduce
> Text insets and cross-references that are updated automatically (upon opening
> the file), even if no changes result, will also cause Frame to think the file
> is modified. Took me a while to figure that out, as it is very confusing to
> simply open a file and have FM indicate that it's been
> I have an OT questions -- when you mark up someone's document, or when
> they mark up your document, how do you determine between "must change"
> markups and "strongly recommend" markups?
We require the reviewers to be clear in what they want! :)
Separate, but related, all our technical
> I am fairly new to Frame. I'm looking for a good book that will help
me sharpen my Frame skills and also be a good reference guide. I have
Frame 7.1. Any suggestions?
I recommend "Publishing Fundamentals: Unstructured FrameMaker 8", by
Sarah S. O'Keefe and Sheila A. Loring.
You can get the
> I'd highly recommend the Microsoft Natural Keyboard and a Logitech
trackball as alternative controllers. I've used both for a long time and
love 'em both, but you do need to adjust
to them.
I also *highly* recommend the Microsoft Natural keyboard. I have the
classic fore-arm repetitive motion
As you noted, the built-in support in Adobe Acrobat has, to write the
PDF in Word format, is pretty darn limited for any serious documents.
I have used PDF Convertor Professional (from www.nuance.com) to read PDF
files into Word with much better results. However, the results STILL
require a LOT
The Microsoft mouse drivers (built into the Intellipoint stuff) from
version 6.0 onwards - currently at version 6.3 - worked very well for me
for the scroll wheel support inside FrameMaker.
With FrameMaker 7.2 and 8.0. on Windows XP SP2, SP3 and I am now on
Windows Vista.
I was going to test
ROFL.
If any document needs *that* many independent counters, then it is
probably too complicated for the audience to follow the numbering
anyway! :)
I think that KISS should be applied. I know that I have paragraph
numbering up the wazoo in my tech specs, but 12 counters have been more
than
Years ago, I wrote a little DOS command utility that changes one string to
another on a large set of files, without having to open each one in an editor.
It is a very limited program (in that you have to be careful to NOT have an
overlap in the "from" and "to" strings" and you have to be
Another possibility. I have been thinking of buying this font (link
below) rather than use "Symbol", but have held off since I would not
have a major need for most of this stuff yet.
But they do *seem* to look reasonable ... anyone want to spring for it
and let us know how good this font is (at
Sharon Burton wrote:
> Inserting page breaks for copy-fitting while you are crating content
results
> in a large amount of rework in the future, as added content will move
page
> breaks around and must manually be managed.
Very, very true!
I am an old school writer and was taught to get the
I agree completely! Last December, I bought their suite of three tools
(Xara Extreme 4, Webstyle 4, and Xara 3D 6) for $119 as I recall
(special for the holidays) and it was money well spent, IMHO. I liked it
to the point where I decided not expense it to my company and just
license it myself (so
> I often have lots of dialog boxes open (e.g. paragraph/character
designer, marker window), and I do not notice anything special.
Specifically jumping around with the
insertion mark or selecting text is fast.
> I have FM 8.0p277, 1 GB RAM, Windows 2000 Professional.
> Therefore I do not think
This pretty much sums up what I saw with some testing too, but I did not
go to the level of detail that you have done here!
I think that the constant "refresh" of information inside the Para and
Char Designer boxes is what causes the slowdown.
Thanks for the detailed information, Mike!
Z
Richard Combs wrote:
> Your explanation makes sense, and suggests that the degree of slowdown
will depend on how many different pgf and char tags the cursor moves
through. There's a lot of information displayed in the Designer dialogs,
and if it changes every few characters or lines...
I *think*
Hi, Rick.
In the recent past, after I upgraded to Vista, I examined the actual
physical (i.e., not paged to disk) memory being used while I have had
some large FM documents open, and that was not an issue, as far as I
could tell.
However, I was thinking of bumping the memory up anyway, so I will
Fred Ridder said:
? The 32-bit versions of Vista can only address 3 GB of memory, so more than
that amount doesn't improve performance unless you're running the 64-bit
(Ultimate) version of Vista.
Yup! But you don't have to go all the way to Ultimate 64. Just as an FYI, there
is a Vista
Acrobat 9 Pro Extended is indeed available a separate product.
Note: I don't know whether it has the PDF workflow capability in it or
not, or how well it integrates with FrameMaker 9 - when purchased
without TCS 2.0 that is.
Z
Clint Owen wrote:
> Does anyone know if the PDF review feature will
Brian Lamborn wrote:
> I am creating some manuals and I need to include some screen shots of
our configuration software. Any recommendations on which screen capture
software works best?
I just use the built-in Windows capabilities (works well for me) ...
some others here like Snag-It.
Z
Both the Agilent examples are good demonstrations of how to do a
screen-readable PDF. Very nice!
The funniest part of this, though, is that I have the original printed
version (of the AN-91-1 document only, not the second one) before the
concept of PDF formats even existed! :) It was *totally*
> To be as clear as possible, the "save as PDF" feature of FrameMaker 7
is not at all compatible with Acrobat 7, 8, or 9!
>
> - Dov
Folks, I have to ask if this is categorically true for everybody ...
because, my experience with "Save as PDF" to Acrobat has been just fine
over the years.
I
I use PDF Convertor Pro for PDF->Word conversions ... works reasonably
well, but still needs a lot of cleaning up after the work is done.
Might be easier to use Mif2Go to wrote the RTF for Word, from FrameMaker
directly.
Z
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From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
> Might be easier to use Mif2Go to wrote the RTF for Word, from
FrameMaker directly.
Argh ... "wrote" should be "write".
Z
Art Campbell wrote:
> Uh, Scott, this seems to be taking place at 10 a.m. PST, which means 7
a.m. EST...
> Is that correct?
Ummm ... 1pm Eastern.
Z
This is my practice as well, although I don't go to a complete text file. What
I do is read the RTF into Frame and then "copy/paste-special" paragraphs and
text into a new document, applying proper paragraph formats as I go.
Using my approach minimizes (but does not eliminate) overlooking
Keep in mind that it is not necessarily obvious that the home-brew
system is at fault. It may simply be a matter of re-installing the OS
and applications if it is not too old a machine. What is the system
motherboard, how much memory does it have, what are the drives, how old
is it, what OS ...
>> If you get an Intel Core 2 Duo (or Core 2 Quad) system, running at
>> 2.6GHz or higher, with 4GB of DDR2 RAM and 7200rpm drives
>> (RAID 0 might
>> be a bit of overkill but easy enough to do), Windows Vista Business
>> 64-bit, and something like an nVidia 9600GT card or better, you will
>>
I use a maximum of 4 ... anything more, and the heading numbering scheme
gets quite clumsy and distracts from the content.
Z
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From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Evanth,
Henrik
Sent: Wednesday, July
Ah! 72 levels of headings are quite possible then.
.
.
.
I kid, I kid! :)
Z
-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Mike Wickham
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 2:24 PM
To: Frame Users
Subject: Re:
> For standard typefaces embedded in print PDF documents, I use Palatino
Linotype for serifs, the new (free) Inconsolata-dk for monospaced, and
any of a number of sans-serif typefaces--usually Arial, Verdana,
Calibri., etc.
Hi, Gary.
Did you mean Inconsolata-dk or Incolsolata-dz? I have not seen
In a dos window:
Dir /s > file.txt
will do what you want. The "/s" means list subdirectories.
BTW, in a dos window, doing:
"Command /?"
Lists all the options for that "command".
Z
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From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces
Hi, all.
I am using FrameMaker 8 on a Windows Vista system.
How can I insert a "horizontal range brace" character or graphic like
the ones used in figure 3-4 on page 23 of this paper:
"h t t p : / / w w w . c d g . o r g / resources / white_papers /
MEID_EUIMID_Migration . p d f"
(All
Thanks! I will give this a try today.
Z
-Original Message-
From: Baruch Brodersen [mailto:baruch.broder...@bigbandnet.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 6:15 AM
To: Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net);
framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Horizontal Range Braces
Z,
You
Ah!
I got "Mail undeliverable" messages (but didn't keep them to look further), so
I presumed that it was the link.
Thanks!
Z
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From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Lea Rush
Sent: Tuesday, June 16,
Hi, Baruch.
Okay, I tried your response and this worked well enough that I think I
can make do for what I am trying. Thanks!
But ... a comment and questions that might help me do yet better:
1. I used the Color > Definition > ... to make a new color - it is not
under the Special > ... (you did
Hi, Baruch,
I was aware of the character format capability (I use them in numbering
for headings and text in the sidehead), but not the ability to select
them in equations. My experience with the equations editor is extremely
low - no reasons to use them till now! :)
I will try all this out as
> >Before I go installing the SetPrint utility, I have a couple of
>questions:
> >
> >- Can I imitate this utility by going to File > Print Setup and
> >choosing Adobe PDF as the printer?
> If you are there to make the change, you can. But a build
> system can't. And personally, I find it way
Mike Wickham wrote:
> Actually, the way I would write the message avoids passive voice and
omits
> needless words. I would write, "Updating result list. Please wait..."
This is how I'd do it too ... :)
Z
Hi, Dov.
Please pardon my rant below ... not your personal fault at all! But,
Adobe does seriously need to fix PDF generation from FrameMaker, IMHO.
Dov wrote:
> FrameMaker (exceptionally unfortunately) unlike InDesign, Illustrator,
and Photoshop does NOT have the ability to directly export PDF
Thanks! I decided to submit my comments to that site ... just finished
getting it written ... wonder if anything will come of it!
Z
Matt wrote (in response to my rant):
> I think I may actually put this link into my email sig... (found by a
"googling" Adobe Wish List) Adobe Wishlist:
Okay! :)
BTW, my e-mail to the list bounced ... did yours do the same? I wonder
if this one will come through ...
Z
-Original Message-
From: Matt Sullivan [mailto:m...@grafixtraining.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 2:32 PM
To: Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net);
framers
Jim Pinkham wrote:
> Any possibility of printing, scanning, and OCRing (with Adobe Paper
Capture or another tool) the document? Not an elegant solution, perhaps,
but quite possibly faster than retyping, if this approach is feasible
for you.
Other similar possibilities:
1. Print/save the file as
Lea Rush wrote:
> Thank you for posting this, Art. Once I checked, I found that all my
Start
> Menu shortcuts were invalidated. They still exist, but they have no
icon and
> point to nothing. Quite fixable, but very strange.
I had this happen too ... indeed strange. I did not bother to check to
Lea saidRush :
> I can't count the frustrations I have with autonumbering in Word.
Indeed!! It's worst when it tries to read your mind.
Z
I would start by removing Adobe Type Manager from her system. It is an
old, essentially unsupported Adobe product and was not *really* intended
to be used after Windows NT or Windows 2000 (I forget which). ATM may be
interacting improperly with the built-in font support inside Windows XP.
Ah ... the old NUXI problem. :)
> I also ran into "endian" while documenting a UNIX application. A
> subject-matter expert (SME) patiently explained it to me, though my
> impression at the time was that he was a little uncertain. Perhaps the
> uncertainty was about the explanation itself, not
Agreed with the comments so far.
*Most* laptops that are more than a year or two old cannot even have
more than 4GB physically installed - the hardware does not allow it, and
a 32-bit OS reduces this to somewhere between 2.8GB and 3.7GB -
depending on the graphics card in there, the add-on
Perhaps it is on your Windows desktop? That is another [common] download
file location ...
Z
> Hi Framers,
> I am trying to install a trial of Framemaker to see if it suitable for
a big directory publishing job which my client is trying to do (without
much success) in InDesign. I downloaded a
Hi, Janice.
There are lots of people here who have, over the years, experienced
problems with the "Save As PDF ..." method. So, it has become the
"normal" recommendation over time to avoid that.
However, there are some of us who have *not* had problems. In fact, I am
one of those who believes
> In addition, there is also the "possibility of migrating everything
from FM to Word" floating around at this particular client. So there is
never much point in making a big investment in FM book restructuring.
Argh ... they should re-think this "possibility".
While I had been an early
Overzealousness at its height, I suspect. Or a novice Administrator.
Installing an application with "allow running for all users" can be done
only as an Administrator if that is what he wants to control. It has
*nothing* to do with giving away Administrator rights or passwords, and
will not cause
>> As for applying italics without a character format, I think most
would agree that this is a Bad Thing.
>I agree that this is not professional, but if I do it this way then at
least I don't get the problem I get when I use a character style
(Emphasis) above.
Not a question of professional use
> Just one small problem though... I used the Emphasis character style.
I tried to apply "As is" to all the formatting of Emphasis, and then to
set it to italics, but it didn't "stick". So when I then applied the
Emphasis style to a title, for example, it changed the font of the word
Acme to
Richard, you are absolutely correct!
I just tested EZVars as well, and the method works perfectly.
Using EZVars, combined with Sharon's "add the character tag" to a
variable recommendation:
(a) creates the new variable with the required minimum set of
font changes like italic and spread
The usual Windows 7 User Account Control (UAC) "feature" asking for
permission to do something. It is less obtrusive in Windows 7 compared
to Vista, but ... still a pain sometimes.
If you are sure that Adobe is not messing with your computer when
installing FrameMaker, then the answer to this
Hi, Kelly
I use a commercial "PDF-to-Word" tool and bring it into RTF, because the
Adobe PDF Professional "output as a RTF" is pretty darn useless, IMHO.
Yes, there is still some residual overhead in getting the FrameMaker doc
right, but much better than any other approach that I have found.
Hi, Diane.
I have over 700 variables in one of my documents ... no problem at all!
In case anyone wonders why I have so many: has to do with a set of
numeric values in one of my specs that are refered to in multiple places
- fwiw, it is better to be consistent everywhere, than wrong in even one
> FrameMaker automatically runs properly in 32-bit mode in Vista 64-bit
and Windows 7
> 64-bit versions. There is nothing that you need to do to cause this to
happen.
> - Dov
My experience is the same as well - (FrameMaker 8 and the trial version
only of FrameMaker 9) - on a Windows 7
Hi, all.
My old laptop is not functioning and I need to migrate to a new one that
is now on my desk.
Unfortunately, I cannot find my FrameMaker 8 disks anywhere (although I
have the license info printed and saved away luckily) ... is there any
place on the Adobe web site that I can use to
Thanks, Michael.
I also got an off-list message to that link. I have downloaded it from there.
Now, I just need to get past the next problem now: the activation did not work
since I could not de-activate it from the previous system. I had already
activated it twice due to a faulty drive some
(Trying this again since my first two did not going through ... more
than a few days now.)
Hi, all.
I often update specifications and documents (all get a new version
number, etc.). Currently, I maintain these in separate folders for each
version of a given spec. Basically, one folder
Thanks, guys!
Sounds like I will investigate it and see how it goes. I am hoping to
piggy-back on the efforts of the software folks who are looking at it too.
However ... any other recommendations too for what I am trying to do?
Regards,
Z
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From: framers-bounces at
Hi, Rick.
I use "Shadow Protect" from www.storagecraft.com ... works very, very
well for me! Check out their 30 day trial version and you may be hooked.
Automatically, I do a weekly drive image on Monday mornings, hourly
backups during the day on every day of the rest of the week onto an
I use ImgBurn for making CD's and DVD's ... and I believe it can make
ISO9660 and Joliet format, both of which should be readable on Mac
systems (AFAIK).
Best of all, the program is free! Check out http://www.imgburn.com/ for
more info.
Z
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From:
I like the Scriptorium book a lot too.
My only regret is that they decided not to publish the "Structured
FrameMaker" version of it ... I hope that this happens sometime. I would
gladly buy it!
Z
-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at
> I am genuinely curious what tool you have found to be superior at
handling tables and why.
Same here ... I have not looked much, but, like you, I use FrameMaker 8
and Word 2007 (different purposes) and I definitely prefer FM to Word
for the table handling.
Is there some other product that
> I think you're confusing "pure" with valid and "impure" with
proprietary. A file can adhere to the XML standard without being valid
against any particular DTD or schema, and being invalid against any
content model doesn't mean it's not adhering to the XML standard.
Exactly right! Some of us
Hi, all.
I am getting stumped with something I thought would be simple (has been
so in the past).
A contact sent me a book (in FM 7 format) that I am attempting to read
into FM 8 ... to fix a page numbering and contents/index problem.
Whenever I open two of the files in the book, I get an
I forgot to mention that I already have the fonts in the families listed
below - all of them are on my computer!
Z
-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Syed Zaeem
Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net)
ite confusing to me now.
A MIF wash did not solve anything, turning off the 'missing font ...' in
the Preferences is not allowing me to come back and re-edit the file
without the error.
What am I doing wrong?
Z
-Original Message-
From: Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Sent:
> I assume you have investigated Reference and Master Pages through the
document? Also, fonts can hide in character and paragraph formats, in
spaces, non-breaking spaces, automated number formats, cross reference
formats where styles have been defined, etc.
Agreed. In the past, this is where I
> Syed, are you saying the book update fails even after you open all the
files, acknowledging the prompts about font substitution?
Exactly! Yes, this is what has me stumped. I opened *all* the .FM files
(only four .FM files - two are the contents and index files that I want
to fix, only one has
Jim Owens wrote:
> Syed.Hosain at aeris.net wrote:
> > I saved those two files in MIF format and searched for "FFamily" and
> > only see the following unique entries for font familes:
> >
> That search may not have been definitive. According to the MIF
Reference (MIF Document Statements >
> OK, the fonts aren't the problem. And FM appears to be updating the
generated list files.
With help from a respondee on this list, I found and fixed the missing
font problem. Sent out an e-mail about that! :)
> Just to confirm that the content is being regenerated, go to one of
the headings
I also endorse EZVars ... its ability to allow me search for and convert
existing text to a variable throughout a document makes it great! It is
my second most used FM add-on ... just after BookVars to manage all the
variables in the first place. :)
Z
-Original Message-
From:
Hi, Chris and Ben,
I like it too ... I am going to copy people inside our company on this
concept.
Z
Chris Borokowski Chris Borokowski wrote:
>
> I like this idea, a lot.
>
> Instead of writing instructions out in a dry abstraction and passive
> voice, explain how the application should work
I see the same problem ... quite repeatable. Characters get "eliminated"
from the text line following a carriage return (even later entries!).
1. Doing a control-L before the save does NOT show any problems.
2. Starting, saving a file, closing it, and then re-opening the file (no
control-L)
One additional observation:
The previous line where you do the carriage return, has to be shorter
than the next line to see the problem.
I.e., "12345", , "1234567890" shows the problem, but "1234567890",
, "12345" does NOT.
Z
Hi, all.
In tables that do not "stretch" over the entire page width, table
footnotes do not stretch to the page width either. They wrap --- pretty
much at the right edge of the rightmost table column.
Is there a way to change this? I.e., have the table be relatively narrow
and yet have the table
Thanks! I will give this a shot.
Z
> -Original Message-
> From: knowhowpro at gmail.com [mailto:knowhowpro at gmail.com] On Behalf Of
> Peter Gold
> Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 1:26 PM
> To: Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net); framers at
> lists.frameusers.com
> Subject:
Hi, all.
I decided not to try this one from Peter, because I received another suggestion
off-line that did exactly what I wanted. Since it was a private communication,
I will not identify who it came from, but the idea was very easy to do (in my
own words here):
Just add another
Hi, all.
We have a need at my company for a contract Technical Writer for a bunch
of small projects over a 3 month period.
WORK:
1. Original authoring (for some short documents - between 5 to 15 pages
typically).
2. Document cleanup/update (i.e., take written work from our
engineering
Hello Direct (www.hellodirect.com) sells many excellent long-range
headset add-on units, and headset/phone combinations.
A bit pricey, but we have a many here because of their excellent quality
and range.
Z
> Hello Framers,
>
> I am moving soon and looking to upgrade my home office. I would
One other possibility to think about (it is not Intuit) ... Microsoft
has a freebie available that may fit the need: Microsoft Accounting
Express 2008.
Check out the info here:
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/accountingexpress/FX101729681033.aspx.
This is designed for small businesses.
This may also be relevant :) http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24293129/
Z
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of
> Rick Quatro
> Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 2:26 PM
> To: framers at
I am not seeing any e-mails from this list for a week now! Is it still
operational?
Thanks!
Z
Hi, all.
I am not receiving any e-mail from the Framers list - including the test
I tried yesterday.
Is the list operational, or is it me?
Can someone please send me e-mail to let me know ... thanks!!
Z
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