Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.1 install errors...

2012-04-11 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 1:24 PM, Bernd Blaauw wrote: > Op 11-4-2012 20:02, Rugxulo schreef: > > The entire idea of opensource was to be able to modify sources to suit a > person's needs. Most people, including me, haven't got enough interest > or experience to be a

Re: [Freedos-user] ...and about FreeCon this time

2012-04-11 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 2:00 PM, Bret Johnson wrote: >> My personal vote would be for bringing a little more order, I mean: >> to suppress recognizing such input as option, if slash is directly >> after some string of characters - in such case path recognition >> should be assumed. > > Proble

Re: [Freedos-user] Programming languages in FreeDOS

2012-04-11 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 7:30 PM, Michael B. Brutman wrote: > On 4/11/2012 1:25 PM, Rugxulo wrote: >> >> On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 7:12 PM, Michael B. Brutman >>  wrote: >>> For hard-core application programming where you need to use a few BIOS >>> a

Re: [Freedos-user] Programming languages in FreeDOS

2012-04-12 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 10:23 PM, Michael B. Brutman wrote: > On 4/11/2012 9:17 PM, Rugxulo wrote: > > I don't understand the "changing OSes and compilers due to arbitrary > limitations comment".  Are you saying that people are being forced to > move away from

Re: [Freedos-user] Unicode support in languages

2012-04-13 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Alex wrote: > > Just to save me some time, instead of going through all the forums and > the documentation files (which would take forever), I ask this > question to you all: which of the (FreeDOS-based) languages support > Unicode? > > More specifically, does

Re: [Freedos-user] edit partitions through usb.

2012-04-18 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 4:22 PM, Felix Miata wrote: > On 2012/04/18 16:55 (GMT-0400) kurt godel composed: > >> I just got an external hdd enclosure; had a hard drive from a machine with >> a blown mobo, and put it in the enclosure. Problem is it still has an >> ext3/ext4 linux on it, eating u

Re: [Freedos-user] Next mTCP release (2012) - wish lists and ideas?

2012-04-21 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 8:13 AM, Michael B. Brutman wrote: > > Making mTCP more CPU power aware - I went down this path and there are > #defines in the code for some of it.  I chose not to implement it > because there was confusion on how to do it across all of the platforms > (older versions

Re: [Freedos-user] USB Support

2012-05-01 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 8:16 PM, Mark LaPierre wrote: > > Does FreeDOS provide support for USB ports?  There were no such thing as > USB ports back in the MS-DOS days. ;-) > > My friends on the rotary engine mail list want to know so they can use > it to control the engine ignition and fuel in

Re: [Freedos-user] Help with loading Freedos on a compact flash card

2012-05-06 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Bernd Blaauw wrote: > Op 6-5-2012 22:23, k4...@aol.com schreef: > >> I am new to the list and would appreciate some help loading a bootable >> version of Freedos on to a 1 GB compact flash card.  This is for a small >> PC-104 system I have.  Several years ago I

Re: [Freedos-user] Setting up a shared printer

2012-05-06 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, couldn't resist,;-) On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Michael B. Brutman wrote: > > Most new network attached printers will listen on port 9100.  Yours > might not.  If it does nothing then it might be listening on the Unix > LPD port (515) or the IPP port (631).  Just try it, nothing bad

Re: [Freedos-user] GMail and Arachne

2012-05-06 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 8:35 PM, dmccunney wrote: > On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 9:18 PM, jasse...@itelefonica.com.br > wrote: > >>> Huh?  Arachne is a browser, not an email client.  It doesn't do POP. >> >>  Arachne is also a POP and a SMTP client. >>  The reason why it is unable to access GMail h

Re: [Freedos-user] Laptop With Built in Wireless

2012-05-08 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Kenny Emond wrote: > > I recently put FreeDOS on my laptop that has built in wireless. I tried to > see if the BIOS on the computer would let me know what the packet driver > name was or where, but it didn't. So I was wondering how to find it or how > to scan

Re: [Freedos-user] upgrading to windows

2012-05-09 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Bernd Blaauw wrote: > Op 9-5-2012 21:35, Darlene Murphy schreef: >> I am about to purchase a server which will have freedos installed on >> it.  I would like to know if it is possible to install Windows Small >> Business Server.  Can this be done? > > As with m

Re: [Freedos-user] Boot on usb key (NTFS) on Freedos.

2012-05-09 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 1:44 AM, Jean-Pierre Planas wrote: > > I would like on my 32Gb usb key to make it bootable on freedos. > > I would like to keep also my usb key in NTFS. > > How can I do this please ? NTFS is notoriously wasteful and bloated for USB jump drives, hence MS created (propr

Re: [Freedos-user] boot FreeDos from SATA HDD

2012-05-09 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 10:58 AM, Eric Auer wrote: > > PS: I suggest that you use another operating system tool, e.g. > GPARTED if you use Linux, to format and partition your disk if > you plan to have multiple operating systems on the disk. If you > want to use the disk ONLY for DOS, any DOS

Re: [Freedos-user] Boot on usb key (NTFS) on Freedos.

2012-05-09 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 4:24 PM, Jean-Pierre Planas wrote: > > First, thanks for your answers (Eric, Jim and Rugxulo...) > Rufus is very interesting... > > Just to explain why NTFS : I would like to put files >4Gb on the usb key. Ah, forgot about that. FreeDOS doesn't

Re: [Freedos-user] Boot on usb key (NTFS) on Freedos.

2012-05-09 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:02 PM, Eric Auer wrote: > > Possibly also interesting, made by DOS expert Tom Ehlert: > > http://www.drivesnapshot.de/en/ it can backup in the background, > access NTFS and network, but is neither free nor open source. Color me stupid, but it says it runs on Windows.

Re: [Freedos-user] Can I accidentely overite my Windows 7 install

2012-05-16 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 8:16 AM, Ben Edwards wrote: > > Hi,  I have created a small fat32 patision on my Intel Mac.  I have Mac OS X > and Windows 7 (NTFS) installed on the box. I naively assume this means BootCamp provides a fake (but workable) BIOS emulation for you. > When I run the free

Re: [Freedos-user] Virtual floppy change problem

2012-05-20 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On May 20, 2012 12:00 PM, "Ralf A. Quint" wrote > > Anyway you slice it, that Virtual Box (and probably a few other VMs) > are not properly supporting this is rather due to the ignorance of > those VM developers and the stupid attitude of "nobody is using > floppy disks anymore". It is a very

Re: [Freedos-user] Virtual floppy change problem and slow VirtualBox UIDE2 init problem

2012-05-21 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, N.B. this was mailed to "freedos-user", not freedos-kernel. On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 9:34 PM, Eric Auer wrote: > >>> -- UIDE2 has only 16 spare bytes before it goes back over a 7K >>> .SYS file!   But, I shall find a way! I've never looked at UIDE closely, but there's "always" room for space

Re: [Freedos-user] Virtual floppy change problem and slow VirtualBox UIDE2 init problem

2012-05-21 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 11:52 PM, Jack wrote: > >> VBox lets you choose how much % of processor to use, so it doesn't >> have to use 100% all the time. I just wonder whether their bugs are >> due to their tweaked BIOS or some hidden instruction incompatibility >> or what.   :-/ > > My own per

Re: [Freedos-user] SAMBA/CIFS support

2012-05-24 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On May 24, 2012 7:35 PM, "Ulrich Hansen" wrote: > > Am 25.05.2012 um 01:20 schrieb czezz: > >> Is there already anyway I can use SAMBA/CIFS with FreeDOS ? > > there is a tool called smbclient for FreeDOS. I explained more in this mail: > > http://old.nabble.com/Free-smbclient-for-DOS-td176599

Re: [Freedos-user] New web site almost ready to go live

2012-05-28 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On May 28, 2012 7:39 PM, "Jim Hall" wrote: > > I wanted to share that the new test web site > (http://test.freedos.org/) is almost ready to go live. I think the > pages have been updated, so now it's "just" a matter to test links and > make sure everything is working before I move everything

Re: [Freedos-user] usage report

2012-06-06 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 6:15 AM, Eric Auer wrote: > >> Two apps do not run using the first boot option JEMMEX: >> >> - Borland Pascal 7 >> runtime exception 000E, which made me first think about the >> fast-CPU-problem, but this installation was patched already. >> during web research I found

Re: [Freedos-user] Sound Card Driver

2012-06-06 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, As mentioned, sadly, most "classic" (old) DOS software knows nothing about cards outside of a limited range like SB16 and GUS. Everything newer (e.g. AC97 or HDA) is almost always incompatible. So it's unlikely you can just "plug in" a driver to make it work. If you can recompile some apps

Re: [Freedos-user] directions for Bret J.'s USB driver

2012-06-06 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Bret Johnson wrote: > > Unfortunately, no.  The drivers are still in the early (beta) stages, so a > lot of the information > is still fairly technical.  Also, USB is EXTREMELY complicated, so it's hard > to come up with > a short summary that will work all

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.1: About installation cd AND system backup???

2012-06-06 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, Just a little bit of non-expert info from me here, On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 5:10 PM, Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote: > > It would appear that on Jun 3, Eric Auer did say: > >> > 3) you wouldn't happen to know if using clonezilla's expert mode >> >     to de-select cloning the "hidden data betw

Re: [Freedos-user] usage report

2012-06-07 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 2:30 AM, Ralf A. Quint wrote: > At 09:27 PM 6/6/2012, Rugxulo wrote: >>BP 7.01 (see file times) should? already be patched for the runtime >>200 error. > > No, there was never an 'official' patch from Borland, for any version >

Re: [Freedos-user] Fiddling with XMS and EMS (was: usage report)

2012-06-08 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Jun 8, 2012 12:06 PM, "JPT" wrote: > > Am 06.06.2012 13:15, schrieb Eric Auer: > > > >> Two apps do not run using the first boot option JEMMEX: > >> > >> - Borland Pascal 7 > >> - Xtree Pro > > > Do both run if you do not load any EMM driver at all? > > when using XMGR or no EMS/XMS at all

Re: [Freedos-user] Fiddling with XMS and EMS

2012-06-08 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Jun 8, 2012 8:50 PM, "Eric Auer" wrote: > > >> current JEMMEX config is > >> DEVICE=C:\DOS\BIN\JEMMEX.EXE NOEMS X=TEST NOVME NOINVLPG > > > > Wait, are you running inside a VM? There's almost no other explanation > > for using "NOVME". > > Are you sure? What do the jemmex docs say about no

Re: [Freedos-user] Fiddling with XMS and EMS

2012-06-11 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 4:40 AM, JPT wrote: >>> Xtree complains after a minute: >>> device: AUX, Cannot write data. >> >> Dunno, would only make a horrible suggestion to use a different file >> manager, e.g. DJGPP-built Ytree. > > good hint, found FM which has exactly the same problems with JE

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS with MS Client - mem optimization

2012-06-11 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 1:12 PM, czezz wrote: > > I have installed MS Client on FreeDOS and now I have easy access to my > Windows shared directory. > However, having MS Client running, a lot of Conventional Memory is used. > I have managed to get back a few KB by removing CDROM and mouse dr

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS with MS Client - mem optimization

2012-06-11 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 4:23 PM, Bernd Blaauw wrote: > Op 11-6-2012 23:10, czezz schreef: >> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3403127/20120611/error1.PNG >> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3403127/20120611/error2.PNG >> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3403127/20120611/error3.PNG >> >> Any ideas what is that ? >> Plea

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS with MS Client - mem optimization

2012-06-12 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 10:38 PM, Rugxulo wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 4:23 PM, Bernd Blaauw wrote: >> Op 11-6-2012 23:10, czezz schreef: >>> >>> Please note: if I revert FDCONFIG.SYS to original (no MS Client) then >>> program starts (MEN

Re: [Freedos-user] New web site almost ready to go live

2012-06-14 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 10:16 PM, dos386 wrote: > > Voila: http://jafile.com/uploads/dos386/fdorgara.png > > With Arachne, I can see the answers ... and ONLY > the answers, but not the questions. Judging only from this one screenshot, apparently the questions are hidden (invisible?) except w

Re: [Freedos-user] Networking

2012-06-16 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 10:07 AM, Bernd Blaauw wrote: > Op 16-6-2012 15:25, Marcos Favero Florence de Barros schreef: > >> I downloaded SHARE from Japheth's site, and it turned out to be >> the same file I had. Where could I find other versions? I Couldn't >> find it by searching the internet

Re: [Freedos-user] Networking

2012-06-16 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Tom Ehlert wrote: > > Japheth's SHARE is probably the one and only SHARE for FreeDOS. no use > to search the internet If I remember correctly (but haven't tested), Japheth made some minor adjustments for FreeDOS (only) to SHARE to work better with a few weir

Re: [Freedos-user] Networking

2012-06-16 Thread Rugxulo
Pardon the intrusion from my unexperienced self, just a few questions On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 8:59 PM, Ulrich Hansen wrote: > > I have read that MS Client with MS DOS works OK for you. But if you want to > stick with Free Software, why not use a real Samba server together with the > FreeDO

Re: [Freedos-user] Networking

2012-06-17 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Jun 17, 2012 6:32 PM, "Ulrich Hansen" wrote: > > Ah, and NEOS: > > I didn't have time to really create a NEOS network here. I will look into it some other time. But at least the readme sounds good at first glance. The NEOS installer works on my old laptops (486SX33) but it doesn't in Virtu

Re: [Freedos-user] Networking

2012-06-18 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 6:25 AM, Tom Ehlert wrote: > > conclusion: don't use FreeDOS as a 'server' machine. Sure, that's the obvious "easy" way out. But wouldn't it be better "overall" (and wiser) to 1). actually find out what MS-DOS does, and 2). "fix" it in FreeDOS' kernel?;-) --

Re: [Freedos-user] The Edit tool

2012-06-19 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 9:07 AM, Kenny wrote: > >   I've been having a problem with the edit command. Nothing big or anything, > but every time I open the editor, the word wrap is turned off. I tried using > the "save options" button, but it just won't work. It resets itself every > time t

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS, pythond, and icmp

2012-06-25 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 8:01 AM, Michael B. Brutman wrote: > On 6/22/2012 2:01 PM, Bob Tanner wrote: >> Asking here as I cannot find any mailing list or new group for pythond. I don't think there is an official list. PythonD was unofficially done by Ben at Caddit.net (last updated in 2008, I

Re: [Freedos-user] fdupdate

2012-06-25 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, Did you ever get a response for this? Not sure why I seem to have ignored it. I guess I didn't want to overstep my bounds or step on any toes (for more qualified people). Well, whatever, lemme add some comments anyways. On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 5:57 AM, JPT wrote: > > let's continue where I

Re: [Freedos-user] fdupdate

2012-06-28 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 4:53 PM, Mateusz Viste wrote: > > I do agree with Rugxulo. Just adding my 2cts regarding FDUpdate (I'm the one > responsible for creating the monster). BTW, I knew you'd read this, so no disrespect intended (obviously), your work is always appreci

Re: [Freedos-user] fdupdate

2012-06-28 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 11:46 PM, Marco Achury wrote: > > I think "official" freedos release must be just 2 or 3 "floppies", as MSDOS > was >  Boot system + basic drivers and tools (and both, cdrom and floppy image are > required). Well, depends on how simplistic you want to make it. I perso

Re: [Freedos-user] GRUB 2.00 Freedos support

2012-06-28 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 5:38 AM, escape wrote: > > With release of the GNU GRUB version 2.00, Freedos is now supported > among other boot protocols. Good to know this has been released. > Besides technical improvements it is > important to know that Freedos is considered worth the efforts p

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS compatibility with DOS applications

2012-07-03 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: > > Actually given Microsoft restored a dos structure to what was it, windows > 7? some of those utilities may be even more current. > Just my take, > Karen I'm not sure what this means. I (sadly) don't have any machines with 32-bit Win

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS compatibility with DOS applications

2012-07-03 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 3:00 PM, C. Masloch wrote: >> Recently there was a thread >> about concurrent file access in the network - apparently FreeDOS >> SHARE and kernel support for it are not as good as in MS DOS > > ... where this "not as good" support apparently amounts to "may corrupt > yo

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS compatibility with DOS applications

2012-07-03 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Martin T wrote: > > How compatible is FreeDOS with applications written to other DOS > operating systems(for example MS-DOS and Windows 95/98/ME, PC-DOS, > DR-DOS)? Are there any known specific utilities or more complex DOS > applications which do not work und

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS compatibility with DOS applications

2012-07-03 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Jul 3, 2012 7:16 PM, "Jeffrey" wrote: > > > The earlier version of edit was essentially a compiled batch file that > > called qbasic with its editor personality. I was *delighted* to see > > that finally changed. > > Is there a way to do this from the command line without edit? 1). In Fr

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS compatibility with DOS applications

2012-07-03 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Jul 3, 2012 7:27 PM, "Marco Achury" wrote: > > I was a qbasic fan. Is a great language. Freedos has a lot of interpreters > and compilers available, but none has that great IDE. I'm no heavy user of IDEs and similar complicated stuff, but I think we have plenty of options. If you're onl

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS compatibility with DOS applications

2012-07-04 Thread Rugxulo
Hi again, On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Rugxulo wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Martin T wrote: >> >> How compatible is FreeDOS with applications written to other DOS >> operating systems(for example MS-DOS and Windows 95/98/ME, PC-DOS, >> DR-DOS)

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS compatibility with DOS applications

2012-07-05 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 2:23 AM, C. Masloch wrote: > > The problem is that even with FreeDOS's "SHARE" loaded, file system > corruption occurs (reproducibly), and in cases that do not fail on MS-DOS > with MS-DOS's "SHARE" loaded. In very rare cases only, though. > If there are enough active

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS compatibility with DOS applications

2012-07-05 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 11:11 AM, C. Masloch wrote: >> In very rare cases only, though. > > Irrelevant. Maybe to you and me, but most developers seem to weigh the issue with how much time and effort vs. how important it is. To them, it makes perfect sense to ignore things that don't bother th

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS compatibility with DOS applications

2012-07-05 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Bret Johnson wrote: >> >> So if they aren't overly concerned, I guess I shouldn't be either. > > FWIW, I use MS-DOS on a daily basis instead of FD for reasons > like this. MS-DOS is, by far, the most stable of the DOS's, and > is still the "minimum standard"

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS compatibility with DOS applications

2012-07-05 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 2:09 PM, C. Masloch wrote: >> >> Well, the whole point of FreeDOS existing at all is that MS dropped >> the ball, and they wanted a free alternative that they could update >> and share freely. > > ... which does not necessitate strong copyleft, as we all know. It also >

Re: [Freedos-user] Beyond cutemouse?

2012-07-12 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 5:54 PM, Michel Clasquin-Johnson wrote: > > FD newbie here. I installed FD1.1 on an old Acer Aspire A110 > netbook and it works great so far, although I had to install the > GAG boot manager to get it to boot up from the internal SD > card that serves it as a "hard dis

Re: [Freedos-user] ? - ?Not sure? - ?

2012-07-14 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Jul 15, 2012 12:56 AM, "Ralf A. Quint" wrote: > > See above. It would be really helpful for you if you hit the books > about BASIC (almost any one will do) to understand the differences > between the different data types and how to use them. Or he could use a language like Rexx (see Regin

Re: [Freedos-user] ? - ?Not sure? - ?

2012-07-16 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 2:02 AM, Ralf A. Quint wrote: > At 11:16 PM 7/14/2012, Rugxulo wrote: > >>On Jul 15, 2012 12:56 AM, "Ralf A. Quint" >><<mailto:free...@gmx.net>free...@gmx.net> wrote: >> > >> > See above. It would be really hel

Re: [Freedos-user] Can you help me?

2012-07-17 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Jim Hall wrote: > On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 7:32 PM, TR-DOS wrote: >> I am a chinese boy,I like computer, want to learn the kernel and renew DOS, >> can you help me? > > I don't know your background (you didn't say) but if you haven't done > much C programming

Re: [Freedos-user] New XFDOS FreeDOS distribution

2012-08-06 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 5:43 AM, escape wrote: > > I've tested image with VirtualBox and it runs just fine. Here's the > screenshot: > http://storage1.static.itmages.ru/i/12/0806/h_1344249650_5665269_44f958fd52.png > Next step is to give it a try on my real boxes. I burned it (again, for newe

Re: [Freedos-user] Eject command in FreeDOS

2012-08-07 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, try this (by Eric Auer): http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/util/system/cdrom2ui.zip On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 6:24 PM, Yamanoor Sai Ram wrote: > I am writing a batch file to update system settings using Free DOS. I would > like to eject the CD/DVD upon completion. I tried

Re: [Freedos-user] Seeking help in porting some stuff to DOS

2012-08-15 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 6:06 PM, David Griffith wrote: > > Last December I posted about re-porting Frotz to DOS. I suceeded in > creating DOS Frotz 2.43. Good to know! Any particular games or demos you tested with it (or intend to test)? > My next task is to get it to support Blorb and >

Re: [Freedos-user] Example

2012-08-15 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Aug 15, 2012 3:25 PM, "Kenny Emond" wrote: > >Could somebody provide me with an example of an > unedited "autoexec.bat" file that FreeDOS uses? You mean from a generic FD 1.1 install? Or just a bare minimum good setup? Or just a copy of our own private version? I'm not sure what magi

Re: [Freedos-user] What Language?

2012-08-16 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 4:46 PM, Kenny Emond wrote: > > What programming language is FreeDOS written in? Are the apps made in > the same language? The kernel is a heavily-modified version of DOS-C by Pat Villani, hence it is (unsurprisingly) "almost" entirely in C (by design). Though his ori

Re: [Freedos-user] Example

2012-08-18 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 4:21 PM, Kenny Emond wrote: > > Never mind what I said about wanting to fix it so win98 and > FreeDOS could work together. Now I just want to purge win98 > from the system. > > Of course. I meant just a general FreeDOS 1.1 install. > > The first two are directories th

Re: [Freedos-user] networking: virtio, NFS?

2012-08-19 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 12:35 AM, Ivan Shmakov wrote: > > I'm interested in running multiple instances of FreeDOS within > QEMU. So, my questions are: > > • QEMU offers a “simplified” networking hardware (AKA virtio); > is there a packet driver for it for Fr

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS on Software Freedom Day 2012

2012-08-20 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 1:10 AM, Ivan Shmakov wrote: > I wonder if someone could write such a short note on FreeDOS? > (In either English or Russian. Or in Esperanto, but that'd > force me to use a dictionary.) My only hesitation for E-o is that I'm a bit rusty (I'm

Re: [Freedos-user] DJGPP / gcc crash

2012-08-30 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 9:13 AM, Mateusz Viste wrote: > > I installed recently the FreeDOS 1.1 distro on a VirtualBox machine, Which version of VirtualBox? (Latest stable is 4.1.20.) Was VT-X enabled? What host OS (Windows?) ? > installed the latest DJGPP, and tried to run gcc from there...

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS Package system and fdupdater

2012-09-04 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 6:17 PM, sparky4 wrote: > > the fdupdate system very out of date Yes. Most people aren't majorly interested. It's a lot of work to pack things up specially. I don't think we have enough volunteers. > and none of the new update for the FreeDOS programs are even in Free

Re: [Freedos-user] Printers

2012-09-05 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 2:36 AM, dmccunney wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 3:03 AM, Michael C. Robinson > wrote: > >> The latest version of Windows always seems to need more computing >> horsepower than the last one... > > Not just Windows. I run FreeDOS ... Heh, I did have one guy tell m

Re: [Freedos-user] HD I/O speed

2012-09-05 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 2:14 AM, Felix Miata wrote: > > Is FreeDOS HD access as slow as PC or MS DOS? IIUC, the latter use slow 16 > bit BIOS code, which is what makes it painful for me to use compared to > running DOS apps in an OS/2 VM. Yes, probably just as slow as it also uses the BIOS.

Re: [Freedos-user] HD I/O speed

2012-09-06 Thread Rugxulo
Hi again, On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 5:50 AM, Rugxulo wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 2:14 AM, Felix Miata wrote: >> >> Is FreeDOS HD access as slow as PC or MS DOS? IIUC, the latter use slow 16 >> bit BIOS code, which is what makes it painful for me to use compared to &

Re: [Freedos-user] HD I/O speed

2012-09-07 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 11:19 AM, dmccunney wrote: > > I'd be interested in what Felix is doing and where he sees visible slowness. > > As you mention, FreeDOS is 16 bit code. But how fast things will > appear to be will have more to do with the hardware you are running on > than whether the

Re: [Freedos-user] HD I/O speed

2012-09-07 Thread Rugxulo
and sold very much anymore, and they've been dropped by most hardware companies. There's very little interest in them. But if you insist on (slightly older) floppy images, try here: http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/unofficial/odin/odin060/ Or my wimp

Re: [Freedos-user] HD I/O speed

2012-09-08 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 3:17 PM, dmccunney wrote: > > Hand-optimizing is deprecated. The compiler can generally do a better > job than you can. Depends on the cpu. GCC is fairly good for newer ones (Pentium IV) but bad at older ones (486). And most compilers aren't up to snuff with SIMD, to

Re: [Freedos-user] HD I/O speed

2012-09-12 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 10:50 PM, Rugxulo wrote: > > Anyways, here's a concrete example: building p7zip 9.20.1 (7za.exe > only) via G++ 4.7.1 (DJGPP 2.04 host and target) on this particular > machine: > > 1). native FreeDOS, no LFNs, XMGR + UIDE, built atop RDISK,

Re: [Freedos-user] Problem running a DOS game requiring EMS inside of VirtualBox

2012-09-15 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 11:19 AM, Louis Santillan wrote: > I tried 64MB & 32MB. The game still sees 0K EMS. Mem/c also reports 0K > available via Int 15h which seems odd. Ignore MEM, it often reports wrong numbers on things other than conventional memory. Dunno exactly what to tell you. T

Re: [Freedos-user] Boot floppy image files

2012-09-16 Thread Rugxulo
uot;) or similar, but these may be somewhat old and outdated (but better than nothing, I suppose): http://odin.fdos.org/ http://www.finnix.org/Balder https://sites.google.com/site/rugxulo/BARE_DOS.ZIP?attredirects=0 -- Ev

Re: [Freedos-user] Need your comments about the FreeDOS site

2012-09-17 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 5:28 PM, Aitor Santamaría wrote: > > As you see, I am "a bit" delayed with mail. No pressure! ;-) > The site looks very nice and neat now!!! Yes it does. :-) > I was just wandering, whatever happened to those old technotes > (usually text or mail exceprts) that

Re: [Freedos-user] false info on the freedos home page?

2012-09-17 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 6:17 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: > > all the talk about the site motivated me to take a quick look. > why does the line > "unlike the old ms dos freedos lets you access fat 32 file systems" > appear? > fat 32 file systems existed in ms dos about 1997 or so. > I have fat

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS Boot Disc

2012-09-18 Thread Rugxulo
der/balder10.img http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/unofficial/odin/odin060/fdodin06.8088.zip http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/unofficial/floppy/img/base/install.img http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distrib

Re: [Freedos-user] Problem running a DOS game requiring EMS inside of VirtualBox

2012-09-18 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 12:39 PM, Ralf A. Quint wrote: > At 10:10 AM 9/18/2012, Louis Santillan wrote: >>There's only 13K upper mem free according to mem/c. I believe it is >>in one block. And, iirc, all that most apps need is to be able to >>swap a 4k page at a time. My guess is that jemmex

Re: [Freedos-user] my account has been compromised, please watch out for false content!

2012-09-18 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 5:22 AM, Mark Brown wrote: > my account has been compromised, please watch out for false content! I think a lot of Yahoo! accounts got hacked recently. Dunno more beyond that, sorry. I got actual spam from two real friends / people / correspondents within 24 hours a f

Re: [Freedos-user] Survey of available DOSes

2012-09-18 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 8:24 PM, wrote: > > The talk about different versions of DOS reminds me that I've been doing > research recently about which DOS operating systems are available. > > Here is how I see it: > > FreeDOS > MS-DOS 6.22 > Win9x (MS-DOS 7.1) > DR-DOS 7.03 > Enhanced DR-DOS

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS Boot Disc

2012-09-18 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Ricardus Vincente wrote: > On Tue, 2012-09-18 at 14:11 -0500, Rugxulo wrote: > > Then link to the sites that have reliable boot images this way people > don't have to spend too much time looking. Here's another one that s

Re: [Freedos-user] Survey of available DOSes

2012-09-18 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 2:46 PM, C. Masloch wrote: > >> * DOSBox ... sure, it's only for games and is really its own "fake" >> DOS, but it sorta works and is free/libre, popular, and easy to find >> binaries. > >> I wouldn't specifically include DOSEMU because it needs a "real" DOS, > > DOSBo

Re: [Freedos-user] about lfn...?

2012-09-18 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 10:57 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: > > indeed they are referring to doslfn, but as I am not sure, I have written > to ask just what edition. Also which of freedos. > they sent me the line they are loading...thoughts? > > LH DOSLFN /Z:C:\DOS71\CP437UNI.TBL > > I feel sur

Re: [Freedos-user] false info on the freedos home page?

2012-09-18 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 9:21 PM, Ralf A. Quint wrote: > At 04:48 PM 9/17/2012, Karen Lewellen wrote: > >>Granted, I am a media professional, so facts especially n the Internet >>are important. >>the fact is ms dos 7.1 under wind 98 had fat 32, even Dr dos in 99 has it. > > The fact is that th

Re: [Freedos-user] false info on the freedos home page?

2012-09-18 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 3:36 PM, C. Masloch wrote: >> On a semi-related note, I think you can boot Win 3.x inside DOSEMU, >> DOSBox, etc. > > This is irrelevant to DOS compatibility when booting a DOS inside any of > them. I was referring mainly to the fact that DOSBox somehow managed to cod

Re: [Freedos-user] false info on the freedos home page?

2012-09-18 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Bret Johnson wrote: > > The are only a few practical differences between Windows 9x > and similar DOS applications. The first is that Windows 9x comes > with a version of DOS that has special enhancements the Windows > application requires to operate properl

Re: [Freedos-user] false info on the freedos home page?

2012-09-18 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 4:04 PM, Ralf A. Quint wrote: > At 01:29 PM 9/18/2012, Rugxulo wrote: >> >>Again, this was purely marketing, not technical, as MS wanted to >>exclusively bundle their DOS with Windows. With (very creaky) shims, >>DR-DOS was said to be abl

Re: [Freedos-user] false info on the freedos home page?

2012-09-18 Thread Rugxulo
Hi again,:-) On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 5:00 PM, Ralf A. Quint wrote: > At 02:25 PM 9/18/2012, Rugxulo wrote: > >> >>Again, this was purely marketing, not technical, as MS wanted to >> >>exclusively bundle their DOS with Windows. With (very creaky) shims, >>

Re: [Freedos-user] false info on the freedos home page?

2012-09-18 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 5:26 PM, C. Masloch wrote: > > In x86 Windows NT, 16-bit subsystems known as NTVDM and WOW are enabled by > default, but they seem to be separated more clearly from the main (32-bit) > system. NT was supposedly designed to be portable (and 32-bit, i.e. no "real" DOS)

Re: [Freedos-user] Dual boot

2012-09-18 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 5:50 PM, Felix Miata wrote: >>Again, would dual boot be a good idea? > > I've been multibooting about 20 years, with DOS on a 1st HD primary included > in most cases. It's really not difficult to set up or use any DOS version via > multiboot. Vista and 7 let y

Re: [Freedos-user] Boot floppy image files

2012-09-26 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 5:22 PM, Jim Hall wrote: > On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 1:11 AM, nospam wrote: > >> Rugxulo has made a single floppy FreeDOS image called BARE_DOS that works >> well: >> https://sites.google.com/site/rugxulo/ >> >> Georg > > FYI

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS packaging rules / paths

2012-09-28 Thread Rugxulo
Hi guys, On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 1:19 PM, wrote: > On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 1:16 AM, Mateusz Viste > >> Another question: how are you storing your files on your >> FreeDOS systems? As far as I'm concerned, I usually store >> games in a separate directory, and other stuff under a >> 'programs' dir

Re: [Freedos-user] FDNPKG: FreeDOS network package manager

2012-10-13 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Mateusz Viste wrote: > Hello FreeDOS community, > > I've created a new tool for the FreeDOS project - a package manager. > > The tool I've created is called 'FDNPKG' (because it's like the old > FDPKG, but with extra Network support). To a Linux user, it migh

Re: [Freedos-user] FDNPKG: FreeDOS network package manager

2012-10-14 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 6:26 AM, Mateusz Viste wrote: > >> I saw this, but I can already tell some of it needs updating, e.g. >> FreeDoom. > > I'm not a big expert on Doom, and available ports or forks today.. I > think that I simply took the FD 1.0 package on this one. :) I'm far from a Doo

Re: [Freedos-user] FDNPKG: FreeDOS network package manager

2012-10-14 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Michael B. Brutman wrote: > > Regarding the makefile errors - I do not compile in DOS. My preferred > DOS machine is an 80386DX-40 and compiling using OpenWatcom crushes that > machine. It is far more productive to work in Windows or Linux and > cross compil

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